[06:16] <superfly> morning sakhi :-)
[06:17] <superfly> nuvolari: ping
[06:17] <nuvolari> superfly: pong
[06:52] <Kilos> hi superfly and others
[06:52] <Kilos> note not supaflahh
[06:53] <superfly> good morning Kilos
[06:53] <Kilos> im not the nut she is
[06:54] <Kilos> lo Mzolisto 
[06:56] <Kilos> oh ya tumbleweed is there a way to get back the right click format function on 12.04 unity
[06:56] <Kilos> for other plugged in drives etc
[06:56] <Kilos> and sticks
[06:56] <tumbleweed> Kilos: sorry, not a unity user
[06:57] <Kilos> lol is it available on kde?
[06:57] <Kilos> i gotta use unity too so i can help tara
[06:57] <tumbleweed> nor a KDE user
[06:58] <Kilos> oh my what do you use?
[06:58] <Kilos> and good morning to you too
[06:59] <tumbleweed> a weird mix of gnome-fallback and xmonad
[06:59] <Kilos> oh my
[07:13] <mazal> Morning everyone
[07:13] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[07:13] <mazal> Gaanit oom Kilos ?
[07:13] <Kilos> ok dankie en jy?
[07:15] <Kilos> sukkel net met skywe reg maak wat venster vuilgoed gebreek het
[07:15] <Kilos> en n p4 wat ook daarvan siek is
[07:17] <mazal> Raasie baie nie dankie. Ai die windoze , het my dag ook swaar gemaak gister
[07:17] <Kilos> ai
[07:17] <mazal> Daai server is sharp , maar die clients , no comment
[07:18] <Kilos> lol
[07:23]  * mazal probeer op datum kom met sy rss
[07:25] <Kilos> i need to reboot to complete upgrade
[07:25] <Kilos> wbb hopefully
[07:45] <nuvolari> môre oom Kilos 
[07:45] <Kilos> lo nuvolari hoe gaanit
[07:45] <nuvolari> goed dankie en met oom?
[07:45] <Kilos> goed dankie
[07:45] <nuvolari> mooi!
[07:45] <nuvolari> dis saterdag :>
[07:45] <Kilos> lol
[07:45] <Kilos> heli tyd?
[07:46] <nuvolari> ek't met die klein goggatjie gevlieg nou
[07:46] <nuvolari> sal dalk vanmiddag gaan vlieg buite
[07:46] <Kilos> a
[07:46] <Kilos> ek hou baie van die klank van daai klein engines
[07:47] <Kilos> jy sit petrol in ne?
[07:47] <nuvolari> nee ek't nie so een nie oom :P
[07:47] <Kilos> baby bee of iets was hulle gewees
[07:47] <nuvolari> ek't 'n battery-aangedrewe een
[07:47] <Kilos> o
[07:47] <Kilos> sjoe batterye is swaar
[07:48] <nuvolari> die Lithium-Polymer batterye het nogals groot krag in hulle oom
[07:48] <nuvolari> so hulle is nie so swaar nie
[07:49] <Kilos> a nou leer ek weer nog iets
[07:50] <nuvolari> hulle is wel relatief gevaarlik
[07:50] <nuvolari> daar is altyd brand-gevaar 
[07:51] <nuvolari> ek het gelukkig nog nie sulke probleme gehad nie
[07:51] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:20] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[08:21] <Squirm> hello
[08:22] <Squirm> sorry for all that flooding I did
[08:22] <Squirm> I think our host was DDoS'd
[08:23] <Kilos> i wasnt here so missed it but you forgiven anyway. the guys know you wont do it aspris
[08:23] <Kilos> on purpose
[08:24] <Squirm> just wasn't anything I could do about it :/ Couldnt connect to my box
[08:37] <Kilos> eish
[08:45] <mazal> Nou's die kombuis ook sommer skoon :P
[09:01] <Kilos> lol
[09:01] <nuvolari> mazal: wat is jou diens-tarief? :P
[09:02] <Kilos> whats this calibration area error of brasero
[09:02] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20Ba6BBQQ
[09:04] <Kilos> i wanna put kubunt on a dvd because the usb stick adds more and more
[09:33] <Kilos> hi magtie 
[09:38] <nuvolari> oom Kilos why do you want to do that?
[09:39] <nuvolari> keeping it on the usb means if you do stuff running from the USB and saving something, it will be available next time.
[09:39] <Kilos> because i got kde on stick but it remember that i didnt get nm working so doesnt even show the option to connect to 3 g
[09:39] <Kilos> sigh
[09:39] <nuvolari> ooh
[09:39] <nuvolari> not a bootable USB?
[09:39] <Kilos> lol so i want a basic install with nothing remembered
[09:39] <Kilos> ya
[09:40] <nuvolari> meh, I'm not sure how one should proceed. It's been ages since I wrote to a DVD :P
[09:41] <Kilos> brasero normally does it with no prob
[09:41] <Kilos> on maverick anyway
[09:42] <Kilos> i dont know if there is perhaps something extra i must install
[09:42] <Kilos> grr
[10:35] <Kilos> wb superfly 
[10:35] <superfly> silly freenode
[10:37] <Kilos> hehe
[10:40] <nuvolari> :-/ production support sucks
[10:40] <nuvolari> I can't take the stress :P
[10:41] <nuvolari> ok, going te the shops quick. bbiab
[11:36] <mazal> What's the command to kill a task ?
[11:36] <nuvolari> kill
[11:36] <nuvolari> :P
[11:36] <Kilos> hehe
[11:36] <nuvolari> force-kill is kill -9
[11:36] <nuvolari> there's also a killall
[11:36] <mazal> I'm trying to kill thunderbird in terminal
[11:36] <nuvolari> and xkill if you just want to zap it with a cursor
[11:36] <mazal> But doesn't want to work
[11:37] <Kilos> there is a program called force quit
[11:37] <Kilos> dunno if later ubuntu's have it though
[11:37] <mazal> "arguments must be process or job IDs"
[11:37] <nuvolari> mazal: if you have a process ID and kill doesn't work, use kill -9 PID
[11:37] <mazal> So I can't give the name thunderbird ?
[11:37] <Kilos> it puts an icon inna panel then you tick it and tick what you wanna kill
[11:38] <mazal> I'm writing a backup script and want it to kill thunderbird when it starts
[11:39] <mazal> But process id will be different everytime , so wanted to use the name
[11:39] <nuvolari> mazal: kill -9 12345
[11:39] <nuvolari> oh, process name
[11:39] <nuvolari> do you have the proccess name?
[11:40] <nuvolari> I think you can then use killall process-name-here
[11:40] <mazal> How can I see the process name ?
[11:40] <nuvolari> ps aux | grep thunderbird
[11:41] <nuvolari> will give you more info about the running thunderbird process(es)
[11:42] <mazal> mazal     3038  0.1  1.0 936872 166392 ?       Sl   09:11   0:22 /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird
[11:42] <mazal> mazal     4210  0.0  0.0  13588   916 pts/2    S+   13:40   0:00 grep --color=auto thunderbird
[11:43] <nuvolari> the first one is your thunderbird process
[11:43] <nuvolari> wonder why it's running from /usr/lib :?
[11:44] <mazal> I added the whole path to the kill command but don't work
[11:53] <nuvolari> mazal: kill or killall?
[11:53] <mazal> kill
[11:54] <nuvolari> afaik you can provide process name to killall, but kill requires the process id
[11:55] <mazal> Ah !!!!!!!!!
[11:55] <mazal> Thanx man :)
[11:55] <nuvolari> ossum :>
[11:55] <nuvolari> is it working?
[11:56] <mazal> Manually yes , will see now in the script
[11:57] <mazal> Yes it works :)
[11:57] <nuvolari> great
[11:58] <mazal> Noe just a little crontab
[12:43] <Kilos> you okes too clever
[12:58] <superfly> mazal: it is better to use "kill" than "kill -9" if you want the app to exit properly
[12:59] <superfly> in the case of TB, you may find your mail inaccessible because TB didn't have a chance to tidy up behind itself when you killed it with -9
[13:04] <mazal> superfly, I use kilall on it now
[13:10] <magespawn> afternoon all
[13:10] <magespawn> anybody know anything about cpanel?
[13:10] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[13:11] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[13:14] <superfly> magespawn: a little
[13:15] <magespawn> i am looking at MyIT CRM and one of the install steps requires cPanel to set up the MySql database
[13:15] <magespawn> surely i could just set up a new databse?
[13:15] <magespawn> database 
[13:17] <magespawn> cPanel is just a control panel isn't it?
[13:19] <Banlam> magespawn
[13:19] <Banlam> i know cpanel
[13:19] <Banlam> what do you need to do?
[13:20] <magespawn> Banlam see above
[13:21] <Banlam> you want to setup a MySQL databse?
[13:21] <Banlam> you just scroll down to databases on your cpanel homepage
[13:21] <Banlam> and click MyQLDatabases 
[13:21] <Banlam> create a user, create a database, assign user to database
[13:22] <magespawn> the MyIT CRM requires me to install cpanel to set up its MySQL database, which seems a bit strange
[13:22] <Banlam> oh
[13:22] <magespawn> i want to just set up the database
[13:22] <Banlam> you shouldn't have to, if you can do it from phpmyadmin, or the console
[13:22] <magespawn> thats what i thought, but wanted to check first
[13:23] <magespawn> cPanel licence is expensive
[13:23] <Banlam> with my shared hosting, i can't create databases or users from phpmyadmin, so i have to do it through cPanel
[13:24] <magespawn> this is all going on to a pc in my shop, so i can do pretty much anything
[13:24] <magespawn> including wreck the thing and start again lol
[13:25] <Banlam> :)
[13:55] <Kilos> is there a link to watch the rugby online from aus guys
[13:55] <Kilos> their foxtel not showing sa and scotland live so tara shking 
[14:00] <Kilos> shaking too
[14:02] <Vince-0> i use myp2p
[14:02] <Vince-0> have to do some digging - what time is the match
[14:21] <Kilos> pretty soon Vince-0 \
[14:21] <Kilos> whats myp2p
[14:21] <Kilos> can she get it there in aus
[14:24] <mazal> Hoe laat skop hulle af ? Sal maar op radio 2000 luister
[14:24] <Kilos> 5 minute
[14:25] <Kilos> if you can stream youtube you can stream rugger too
[14:25] <Kilos> ?
[14:25] <Kilos> right
[14:26] <Kilos> they singing anthems now
[14:28] <mazal> Have tuned in
[14:40] <Vince-0> scotland/SA :
[14:40] <Vince-0> http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/www.castalba.tv/channel/11598
[14:40] <Vince-0> http://www.liveflash.tv/wdcvfgtgtyujkgerery#www.rojadirecta.me
[14:40] <Vince-0> expect ads, 
[14:40] <Vince-0> look for the small X box
[14:50] <Kilos> ty Vince-0 
[14:54] <mazal> Thanx Vince-0
[14:56] <magespawn> I am out of here, enjoy the rugby. cheers
[14:56] <Kilos> toods magespawn 
[15:02] <Vince-0> quality feed!
[15:02] <Vince-0> scot commentators are great
[15:19] <mazal> First time ever I watch rugby on internet
[15:44] <Vince-0> pirate feeds ftw, and broadband
[15:44] <Vince-0> there's also watchseries 
[15:44] <Vince-0> but its messy and popups
[16:11] <Frankko> May i ask a non ubuntu related question?
[16:11] <Frankko> or is it strictly prohibited?
[16:14] <Frankko> I was reading up on currency unions, and south africa has a close relationship with Swaziland and Lesotho with the Swaziland pound or what it is called pegged to the ZA Rand. And rand accepted legal tender in both countries, does ZA venues accept Swazi and lesotho currencies as well?
[16:14] <Frankko> or is it a one way street
[16:14] <Tonberry> not that I have ever heard of
[16:15] <Tonberry> its a one way street with namibia
[16:15] <Frankko> is it like the Euro in sweden? Not accepted unless large amounts, or in the border towns
[16:15] <Frankko> euro coins in sweden is not legal tender.
[16:15] <Tonberry> maybe one or two smaller places close to the border would accept it
[16:16] <Frankko> oh ok.
[16:16] <Tonberry> but there is no requirement
[16:16] <Tonberry> yes not legal tender here
[16:16] <Frankko> Tonberry: thankyou for helping me understand
[16:16] <Frankko> but as it is pegged to the rand, there would be no loss in sales, right?
[16:17] <Frankko> in terms of PP
[16:17] <Tonberry> i think the admin would just be too much of a pain
[16:17] <Tonberry> i don't live close to any of those borders so i've never really thought about it
[16:18] <Frankko> yeah i get that.. considering that many people work in ZA that are not natives (in the broader term) do they get payed in rand or in their currency of where they commute from?
[16:19] <Tonberry> i would assume rand since getting other currencies would be quite a hassle
[16:20] <Frankko> swedes that work in demark, norway and finland mostly only accept payment in SEK (swedish currency) as fluctuations in the norwegian and danish krona, as well as the euro might make the salaries worth a lot less back at home.
[16:21] <Frankko> As the swedish krona is a lot more stable than we would like
[16:22] <Frankko> inflation is a problem, not our inflation but our neghbours and trade partners. The USD has gone from a 11SEK high to a 6SEK now. The euro from 12SEK to 8SEK..
[16:22] <Frankko> if working in finland that is a large % pay drop
[16:23] <Frankko> and the SEK has lost value against gold and other materiasl, but soo much less than the mentioned other currencies.
[16:24] <Tonberry> i have to disappear now, dinner and all
[16:24] <Frankko> How does ZA counter the value of the rand to the gold price, as ZA is perhaps the largest gold exporter.
[16:24] <Frankko> ok. no problem
[16:26] <Frankko> ZA is such an interesting country. 
[16:52] <Kilos> inetpro, whats happening with them weeds
[16:55] <Kilos> sudo aptitude purge weeds
[17:11] <Kilos> hi hubx 
[17:11] <Kilos> wbb
[17:13] <hubx> hi :)
[17:20] <Kilos> nuvolari, k3b burned the kde iso for me
[17:20] <Kilos> dunno what was brasero's prob
[17:22] <mazal> You going to kde Kilos ?
[17:23] <Kilos> i have been on kde for a while. thought id give it a try
[17:23] <Kilos> i have one drive with unity and one with kubuntu
[17:23] <Kilos> both 12.04
[17:24] <mazal> Why not just add kde to your main install ?
[17:25] <Kilos> you mean dual boot?
[17:25] <mazal> Nope
[17:26] <Kilos> i actually have 12.04 install with unity then installed kubuntu-full
[17:26] <mazal> You can add any of the desktops with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop etc.
[17:26] <Kilos> because i couldnt get kde to see my modem
[17:27] <Kilos> no i believe in apartheid
[17:27] <Kilos> hehe
[17:27] <mazal> lol
[17:27] <Kilos> didnt want unity to mess with kde or vice versa
[17:28] <mazal> Personally my second choice was Xubuntu , better than kde
[17:28] <mazal> I was on that for a while when Unity started
[17:28] <mazal> Was pretty happy with it
[17:29] <Kilos> 11.04 xubuntu put me off
[17:29] <Kilos> had lotsa hassles
[17:29] <mazal> I can't even remember what version I used
[17:29] <Kilos> kde isnt that bad
[17:29] <Kilos> just takes getting used to
[17:30] <Kilos> better than unity in lotsa respects
[17:30] <mazal> Kubuntu was very buggy with me
[17:30] <Kilos> only didnt have sound in xchat otherwise its good
[17:30] <mazal> xchat has sound ?
[17:31] <Kilos> ya man dodo
[17:31] <Kilos> settings
[17:31] <Kilos> alerts
[17:32] <zeref> gnome-shell gnome-shell gnome-shell
[17:32]  * zeref runs
[17:32] <Kilos> tick all 3 in top 2 rows and last 2 in last 2 rows
[17:32] <Kilos> hehe
[17:32] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:32] <Kilos> wbb
[17:34] <mazal> zeref, is that normal gnome 3 ?
[17:34] <zeref> yep
[17:35] <mazal> Don't really know it
[17:36] <zeref> for me it's awesome. very simple.
[17:36] <zeref> when i first started using linux, i was all about configuring
[17:37] <zeref> now i just want a comp that works
[17:37] <mazal> I know the feeling , I want as few hassles as possible
[17:38] <superfly> that's why I use KDE. :-P
[17:39] <zeref> yeah, I've not installed a single gnome-extemsion
[17:39] <superfly> having said that, I'm considering moving to debian with kde
[17:39] <mazal> Is it true that debian is difficult and not user friendly ?
[17:39] <zeref> not really
[17:40] <mazal> I've read that just to get it installed is a mission
[17:40] <zeref> nooit
[17:40] <zeref> very easy
[17:41] <zeref> I'll be moving to debian as well soon
[17:41] <mazal> Don't like ubuntu anymore ?
[17:42] <nuvolari> meh. why is everyone jumping ship now? I wanted to do that some time ago :P
[17:42] <nuvolari> but then features won't be cutting edge :-/
[17:42] <nuvolari> not that I worry about that any more
[17:44] <zeref> nah I'll use debian testing
[17:44] <zeref> very similar to the 6 mont releases
[17:44] <zeref> s/mont/month
[17:48] <Vince-0> there's pear and mint
[17:49] <Vince-0> the big deal is the guis - i like a workable dock bar
[17:50] <Kilos> lol at the fly
[17:52] <Kilos> ill stay with ubuntu as long as i can then go tinycorelinux
[17:52] <mazal> I don't really want to start learning from scratch again , so will stay
[17:52] <mazal> Took me too long to learn ubuntu
[17:52] <Kilos> ubuntu be lekker man
[17:53] <Kilos> what happened to trixie
[17:53] <Kilos> oh my
[17:53] <Kilos> slitaz crashed?
[17:54] <zeref> mazal: from ubuntu>>debian
[17:54] <zeref> not that much learning
[17:55] <Kilos> debian has deb-delta that works
[17:55] <Kilos> so 80% less data downloaded
[17:56] <mazal> btw oom Kilos , I see that I use xchat-gnome , that's prob why I don't have sounds
[17:57] <Kilos> nee man thats the wrong one
[17:57] <Kilos> gnome xchat sucks
[17:57] <mazal> hhehehe
[17:57] <Kilos> sudo aptitude install xchat
[17:58] <Kilos> the fly told me to get xchat like 100 years ago
[17:58] <Kilos> but he uses quassel
[17:58] <mazal> Lemme put that on quick
[17:59] <Kilos> then you can get xchat-blinklight i think its called
[17:59] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:59] <Kilos> all gone
[18:01] <Kilos> wb mazal 
[18:01] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:01]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[18:01] <mazal> Looks much the same
[18:02] <Kilos> similar
[18:02] <Kilos> like a ferrari and a fiat uno
[18:02] <Kilos> got 4 wheels
[18:02] <Kilos> have you got the panels left and right
[18:02] <mazal> Options are very different though
[18:03] <mazal> More options
[18:03] <Kilos> channels left and nicks on the right
[18:03] <mazal> Yep
[18:05] <Kilos> ok settings preferences
[18:05] <Kilos> alerts
[18:05] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:05] <mazal> I've already done it :)
[18:05] <Kilos> xchat must bloep when your nick mentioned
[18:05] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[18:05] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[18:05] <Kilos> mazal, hi
[18:06] <mazal> no bloep
[18:06] <Kilos> does it bloep you?
[18:06] <Kilos> uh oh
[18:06] <Kilos> nee man xchat works
[18:06] <Kilos> just not in kubuntu
[18:06] <Kilos> what you done wrong
[18:07]  * mazal shrugs
[18:07] <Kilos> oh try install um
[18:07] <Kilos> um
[18:07] <Kilos> er\where is neil
[18:07]  * Kilos cries
[18:07] <Kilos> install mplayer
[18:07] <mazal> Already installed
[18:07] <Kilos> he had to do that
[18:08] <Kilos> oh my
[18:08] <mazal> No wait
[18:08] <Kilos> have you got synaptic?
[18:08] <Kilos> hi smile4ever 
[18:08] <mazal> Looks like I didn't add it in this install
[18:09] <smile4ever> hi Kilos :)
[18:09] <mazal> No I was right , it is installed already
[18:09] <mazal> Hi smile4ever 
[18:10] <smile4ever> mazal: Have you slept well? :)
[18:10] <mazal> Yep thanx and you smile4ever  ? ;)
[18:11] <smile4ever> yeah :D
[18:11]  * smile4ever did much homework today :)
[18:11] <mazal> What did you work on ?
[18:12] <Kilos> mazal, didnt it say you gotta restart xchat
[18:12] <mazal> Nope
[18:13] <Kilos> try it
[18:13] <mazal> The pop-up messages in the indicators works , just not the beep
[18:14] <Kilos> wb mazal 
[18:14] <Kilos> still nothing?\
[18:14] <mazal> Now the pop-up messages also don't work lol
[18:14] <smile4ever> mazal: Website, maths :p
[18:14] <Kilos> they work when you somewhere else
[18:15] <mazal> smile4ever, I used to like algebra , but hated the rest
[18:15] <Kilos> oh i asked have you got synaptic mazal 
[18:15] <mazal> So I must minimize first ?
[18:15] <Kilos> no man
[18:15] <Kilos> be on another workspace
[18:16] <Kilos> you only use 1?
[18:16] <mazal> Yep
[18:16] <Kilos> eish
[18:16] <Kilos> actually i think there is an #xchat channel
[18:17] <Kilos> you on 12.04 or 10
[18:17] <mazal> 04
[18:17] <mazal> 10 is terrible
[18:17] <Kilos> just tell them
[18:17] <Kilos> lol
[18:17] <Kilos> lemme see if there be such a channel
[18:18] <smile4ever> mazal: lol :p
[18:18] <Kilos> ya 145 peeps there
[18:18] <mazal> oi
[18:18] <Kilos> tell them your xchat in 12.04 has no sound in alerts
[18:18] <smile4ever> I'm in the last degree of my secondary school, so it's advanced already :P
[18:18] <smile4ever> last degree => last year
[18:19] <mazal> My head hurts just thinking of studying
[18:19] <Kilos> lol
[18:19] <Kilos> mazal, /j #xchat
[18:19] <mazal> Jig I didn't like it at all hey , always left my homework till the last minute
[18:20] <Kilos> its their job to help with xchat probs
[18:20]  * mazal gonna take break first
[18:21] <Kilos> careful what you break
[18:21] <mazal> Is ok , I got backups lol
[18:21] <Kilos> lol
[18:21] <Kilos> wow hard to believe xchat has no sound in unity
[18:22] <smile4ever> Kilos: neither ChatZilla does :(
[18:22] <Kilos> eish
[18:22] <smile4ever> mazal: what are you today these days? :)
[18:22] <smile4ever> why the sound isn't working? :s
[18:22] <Kilos> he hasnt had it in xchat
[18:22] <Kilos> didnt know there is sound
[18:31] <smile4ever> oh i see ;)
[18:31] <mazal> ib
[18:31] <smile4ever> A friend of mine hasn't got sound in ChatZilla (which for sure does have sound) & xchat (of which i'm unsure)
[18:32] <mazal> smile4ever, I don't quite understand that question ?
[18:33] <smile4ever> mazal: Well, I would like to have sound in ChatZilla :)
[18:33] <Kilos> oops power gone
[18:33] <smile4ever> or xchat
[18:33] <Kilos> will be back when power returns
[18:33] <Kilos> be good
[18:34] <mazal> K oom Kilos 
[18:37] <mazal> I wonder if uninstalling xchat-gnome would help
[18:57] <Kilos> any luck mazal 
[18:58] <mazal> Nope
[18:58] <Kilos> eish i cry when i cant hear bloeps
[18:58] <Kilos> its called bell.ogg
[18:58] <mazal> But , I see in the settings under "sounds" there is alot of sound settings and a sounds folder
[18:58] <smile4ever> https://sourceforge.net/p/notepad-plus/bugs/4065/ :o
[18:59] <mazal> I don't even have such a sounds folder
[18:59] <Kilos> oh ya you can set it to use external sounds too
[18:59] <Kilos> just point it to bell.ogg
[19:00] <Kilos> search its there
[19:00] <mazal> There is no sound files
[19:00] <mazal> There is no sound folder
[19:00] <Kilos> wait i look
[19:00] <Kilos> type bell.ogg in dash
[19:01] <Kilos> maybe if you open it you will see its path
[19:01] <mazal> nothing
[19:01] <mazal> I think that must be added extra it seems
[19:01] <mazal> But I dunno how
[19:01] <Kilos> oh my goodnes what havent you installed
[19:01] <Kilos> maybe in pulse files
[19:01] <mazal> I even checked if there is a xchat-sounds package or something , but nothing of that sort
[19:01] <Kilos> have you got alsa
[19:02] <Kilos> you havent removed any pulseaudio files?
[19:02] <mazal> Nope
[19:02] <Kilos> oh my
[19:02] <mazal> Didn't add or remove any audio stuff
[19:02] <Kilos> hey have you got synaptic
[19:03] <mazal> yep
[19:03] <Kilos> third time im asking
[19:03] <Kilos> open and type xchat
[19:03] <mazal> That's where I checked and made sure I installed everything of xchat
[19:04] <mazal> It has 3 packages , xchat , xchat-common and , xchat system indicator
[19:04] <Kilos> no man not everything
[19:04] <Kilos> kill the gnome one
[19:04] <mazal> Already did
[19:04] <Kilos> oh ya
[19:05] <Kilos> Maaz, google no alerts sound in xchat on 12.04
[19:05] <Maaz> Kilos: "Llovizna: Installing xchat-gnome from the source, on Ubuntu 12.04 ..." http://kkpradeeban.blogspot.com/2012/07/installing-xchat-gnome-from-source-on.html :: "Shallow Thoughts : : programming" http://shallowsky.com/blog/programming/index.html :: "Modify Ubuntu - Ubuntu 12.04 Tips/Tricks" http://modifyubuntu.com/ :: "QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta2 -
[19:05] <Maaz> Ubuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta2 :: "QuantalQue…
[19:05] <Kilos> ai
[19:06] <Kilos> maybe the xchat peeps will have an idea soon
[19:06] <Kilos> they still not answered
[19:07] <mazal> It seems to me that the sounds is not added by default
[19:07] <Kilos> it always works for me
[19:07] <Kilos> only neil had to install mplayer
[19:07] <mazal> Do you have that sounds folder ?
[19:08] <Kilos> mine works without mplayer even'
[19:08] <mazal> /home/username/.xchat2/sounds ?
[19:08] <Kilos> ya in home i think
[19:09] <mazal> Mine only has a scrollback and a logs folder
[19:09] <Kilos> no must be a sound one too
[19:09] <Kilos> but its empty but points to bell.ogg
[19:10] <mazal> Which setting points to bell ?
[19:10] <Kilos> mine has 2 folders and 9 files
[19:11] <mazal> Which event
[19:11] <Kilos> sound.conf
[19:12] <Kilos> sudo aptitude purge xcha
[19:12] <Kilos> xchat
[19:12] <Kilos> the sudo aptitude install xchat
[19:12] <Kilos> you carrying bugs from the gnome thing
[19:13] <Kilos> theres a notify.conf too
[19:14] <Kilos> but they got nothing in
[19:14] <Kilos> or hidden stuff
[19:14] <mazal> Both my sound.conf and notify.conf is empty files
[19:14] <Kilos> mine too
[19:15] <Kilos> they never have anything inside them
[19:15] <mazal> Where do you see the bell.ogg setting ?
[19:15] <Kilos> but if you dont have bell.ogg then it cant play
[19:16] <Kilos> sjoe we hunted for days
[19:16] <Kilos> ask inetpro 
[19:16] <Kilos> lemme see if i can find a path
[19:17] <Kilos> where is the search tool in unity
[19:18] <Kilos> the bell.ogg file opens with rythmbox
[19:18] <Kilos> rhythmbox
[19:18] <mazal> Ag is ok oom Kilos , I'll try again on another day
[19:18] <Kilos> maybe you aint got that
[19:18] <mazal> Is moeg nou
[19:18] <Kilos> ok lekker slaap
[19:18] <Kilos> hehe
[19:19] <Kilos> would bug me
[19:19] <mazal> Is not that important to me
[19:19] <Kilos> we will find it somethime
[19:19] <Kilos> just see you got rhytmbox installed
[19:20] <Kilos> whew that hard word to spell
[19:20] <mazal> We will beat it on another day ;)
[19:20] <Kilos> ok
[19:20] <mazal> Lekker slaap oom Kilos 
[19:20] <Kilos> ill try find where bell.ogg is
[19:20] <mazal> Sleep well everyone
[19:20] <Kilos> nag seun
[19:21] <mazal> Have a blessed evening
[19:32] <inetpro> so superfly, maybe we should just start a debian-za channel, or does it even exist?
[19:32] <superfly> inetpro: debian doesn't have locos
[19:33] <inetpro> we can always start them?
[19:33] <smile4ever> doei :p
[19:33] <inetpro> btw, good evening to everyone
[19:34] <inetpro> but perhaps we should just do the community thing as part of glug
[19:34] <smile4ever> good night :)
[19:34] <inetpro> smile4ever: goeie nag
[19:34] <smile4ever> dankie! :)
[19:35] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[19:35] <Kilos> answer
[19:35] <inetpro> will be a sad day when superfly is no longer part of ubuntu-za
[19:35] <superfly> inetpro: since when am I leaving?!?!
[19:35] <inetpro> lol
[19:36] <inetpro> superfly: I was just thinking ahead
[19:36] <Kilos> grrr
[19:36] <Kilos> stop it you two
[19:36] <Kilos> you going nowhere
[19:36] <inetpro> Kilos: he wants to use debian
[19:36] <Kilos> yes i saw but he will always be here
[19:36] <inetpro> ahh, ok
[19:36] <inetpro> :-)
[19:37] <Kilos> and you as well
[19:37] <inetpro> Kilos: hoe gaan dit?
[19:37] <Kilos> so whats happening with grass/weeds
[19:37] <Kilos> goed dankie en jy?
[19:37]  * inetpro should perhaps also try debian kde for a change
[19:38] <inetpro> Kilos: they dying slowly
[19:38] <Kilos> as well man not for a change
[19:38] <Kilos> yay
[19:38] <Kilos> magic poison that
[19:38] <inetpro> but I need t repeat some places where I clearly missed them, I think
[19:38] <Kilos> they only die when it gets to the roots
[19:38] <inetpro> need to repeat
[19:38] <Kilos> yes dont let any seed
[19:39] <inetpro> many had seeds already
[19:39] <Kilos> you will still get new ones yearly though. the seeds can lie for 7 years till things are good for them
[19:40] <inetpro> so I guess I shall still spend some time killing the stuff for good over next two years
[19:40] <Kilos> i think its seven
[19:40] <inetpro> sjoe
[19:40] <Kilos> some other weeds seeds can lie 20 years till things good like plowing in
[19:40] <inetpro> Kilos: now that is some good motivation
[19:40] <inetpro> :-(
[19:41] <Kilos> onkruid
[19:41] <Kilos> no man 2 years and you will have them
[19:41] <Kilos> next year spray early
[19:41] <Kilos> im not sure if seeds there already still grow
[19:42] <inetpro> I want to get some topsoil when I have a bit of moola
[19:43] <Kilos> sjoe make sure it isnt also fulla weed seeds
[19:43] <inetpro> think I need to treat the lawn with some 2-3-2 and topsoil
[19:43] <Kilos> just try first with lan/kan
[19:44] <inetpro> ya but it must get into the ground
[19:44] <Kilos> and make an area where you burn all dead branches and grass etc and sprinkle the ash on lawn and water in
[19:44] <inetpro> how do I do that on the lawn?
[19:44] <Kilos> lan/kan waters in
[19:44] <inetpro> ah
[19:45] <Kilos> its the potas that doesnt
[19:45] <inetpro> ok
[19:45] <Kilos> pnp 
[19:45] <inetpro> next month
[19:45] <Kilos> last be must be dug in
[19:45] <Kilos> las p
[19:45] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:45] <Kilos> last p
[19:45] <Kilos> first 2 are water soluble
[19:45] <inetpro> ok
[19:46] <Kilos> but ash is good
[19:46] <inetpro> that's the thing
[19:46] <Kilos> natures way of feeding the veldt
[19:46] <inetpro> I think I need some potash
[19:46] <Kilos> expensive i think
[19:46] <inetpro> sadly
[19:47] <Kilos> dolomitic lime is also good
[19:47]  * inetpro will take it a step at a time
[19:47] <Kilos> dont you have lotsa dead branches etc
[19:47] <inetpro> many
[19:47] <Kilos> any wood ash is good
[19:47] <inetpro> you burn then?
[19:48] <Kilos> thats how the big boss feeds the veldt
[19:48] <Kilos> ya fire
[19:48] <inetpro> hmm... ok
[19:48] <Kilos> and ash on lawn and plants and veggies garden
[19:48] <Kilos> waste not want not
[19:49] <inetpro> Kilos: where's tara?
[19:49] <Kilos> havent you noticed how lekker the veldt grows after a fire
[19:49] <Kilos> sleeping
[19:49] <Kilos> still battling
[19:49] <inetpro> hmm... time to wake up
[19:50] <inetpro> almost 7
[19:50] <inetpro> sun must be shining already
[19:50] <Kilos> ya but they watched rugby till 2 or 3 am
[19:50] <inetpro> sjow
[19:50] <Kilos> lol
[19:50] <Kilos> they rugby mad
[19:50]  * inetpro didn't watch
[19:50] <inetpro> what happened?
[19:51] <Kilos> we beat the scots 21/10
[19:51] <inetpro> ahh, mooi!
[19:51] <Kilos> but play was not up to standard
[19:54] <Kilos> i put kubuntu on a dvd
[19:55] <Kilos> the stick remembering stuff is no good
[19:55] <Kilos> unless you get first install right'
[19:55] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm not sure but I think there is a way around that
[19:55] <Kilos> anyway i go sleep now
[19:55] <Kilos> oh
[19:55] <inetpro> you can make it not remember 
[19:56] <inetpro> but I have not tried it, yet
[19:56] <Kilos> oh where it said something about 1g to remember settings or something
[19:56] <Kilos> will have a look sometims
[19:56] <Kilos> time too
[19:56] <Kilos> night guys sleep tight
[19:56] <inetpro> Kilos: even then you should be able to make it read only
[19:57] <inetpro> goeie nag oom
[19:57] <Kilos> still nou man
[19:57] <Kilos> lol
[19:57] <Kilos> see yous morrow or so
[19:57] <Kilos> be good
[22:04] <diplodok> hi
[22:04] <diplodok> what is the temperature in south africa now
[22:04] <diplodok> ?
[22:05] <Banlam> whereabout
[22:05] <Banlam> and you mean, right now
[22:05] <Banlam> in the middle of the night
[22:05] <diplodok> Banlam: generally
[22:05] <Banlam> any specific area?
[22:05] <Banlam> but it's going inot summer
[22:05] <diplodok> Banlam: i have a flight to south africa in tuesday
[22:05] <Banlam> so it's warming up
[22:06] <Banlam> +20s are to be expected most days
[22:06] <diplodok> Banlam: you have a summer now?
[22:06] <Banlam> yip
[22:06] <Banlam> it's the southern hemisphere
[22:06] <Banlam> that's how the earth works :)
[22:06] <diplodok> Banlam: i know. i was there many times :-)
[22:06] <Banlam> .pl, is that poland?
[22:07] <Banlam> :)
[22:07] <diplodok> Banlam: yes
[22:07] <Banlam> cool, had any snow lately?
[22:07] <Banlam> or still waiting for winter to really hit in
[22:07] <diplodok> Banlam: so far no, but we are expecting some snow. temperature now is around 0
[22:07] <Banlam> nice
[22:08] <Banlam> diplodok, where in SA are you going to be staying? Joburg?
[22:08] <diplodok> Banlam|;how about seaside, is there strong winds in this part of the year? i will join the vessel in cape town
[22:09] <Banlam> cape town, good choice
[22:09] <Banlam> also, join the vessel, sounds epic
[22:09] <Banlam> there can be strong winds
[22:09] <diplodok> Banlam: i was there. in south africa i was in johanesburg, durban and cape town
[22:09] <Banlam> a few weeks ago there were some hectic winds
[22:10] <Banlam> but in general there'll be  alight wind
[22:10] <diplodok> Banlam: in capetown yopu have beautiful landscape. those mountains straight from the sea are great !!
[22:10] <Banlam> :) no arguing from my side
[22:11] <diplodok> Banlam: nice place for this part of the year :-)
[22:12] <Banlam> for sure
[22:12] <Banlam> if i may ask, what 'vessel' will you be joining?
[22:12] <diplodok> Banlam: better than in Poland now
[22:12] <diplodok> Banlam: container ship
[22:12] <diplodok> Banlam: i have to conduct that vessel to vietnam, to deliver it to new owner
[22:12] <Banlam> that's qutie a voyage
[22:12] <Banlam> quite*
[22:13] <diplodok> Banlam: three weeks at sea
[22:13] <Banlam> where has the ship come from?
[22:13] <diplodok> Banlam: then i will take money to my pocket and  will back home
[22:13] <Banlam> :P
[22:13] <diplodok> Banlam: to be at the christmas time at home
[22:14] <diplodok> Banlam: from Angola
[22:14] <Banlam> ok
[22:14] <Banlam> and home is poland?
[22:14] <diplodok> Banlam: she was in constant service between luanda and cabinda
[22:14] <diplodok> Banlam: yep
[22:14] <Banlam> i had to google cabinda
[22:15] <diplodok> Banlam: it's angolan city
[22:15] <Banlam> so i see :)
[22:16] <diplodok> Banlam: ok... i have to go. many thanks for help!
[22:16] <Banlam> no problem, safe sailing
[22:16] <Banlam> do you guys hug the coast
[22:16] <Banlam> or cut straight acrtoss the indian?
[22:17] <diplodok> Banlam: it depends how second officer will plan a route
[22:17] <Banlam> ok, well watch out for the pirates
[22:17] <diplodok> Banlam: fou shure strait acros the ocean
[22:17] <diplodok> Banlam: but i don't know details. eg. if will be close to mauritius and reunion
[22:17] <Banlam> ok, no pirates then
[22:17] <Banlam> kk
[22:18] <diplodok> Banlam: i'm not so shure regarding to the pirates, somalis probably not but we will sail through the malacca strait and there are also pirates
[22:18] <Banlam> ok
[22:18] <diplodok> from sa to malacca strait, then singapur strait and southeren china sea
[22:19] <Banlam> exciting
[22:19] <diplodok> but ofcourse most bad is area close to somali coast
[22:20] <diplodok> Banlam: ok... thanks and bye :-)