[00:00] <Mogana> Good morning
[00:00] <chris_33> its not in my top right where the clock it
[00:00] <chris_33> is
[00:00] <michealPW> chris_33: You can use ps or top. Also htop is nice (You'll have to install it)
[00:00] <blackshirt> chris_33, some likes process explorer ?
[00:00] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip: michealPW actually the audio while watching a Youtube video is okay, however playing a video from my HD sounds garbled :-(
[00:00] <michealPW> chris_33: Oh, wait.. bottom right :P
[00:00] <chris_33> michealpw: thank you
[00:00] <michealPW> Like, push your cursor to bottom-right all the way
[00:01] <chris_33> it's the trash can
[00:01] <chris_33> bottom left
[00:01] <chris_33> then work space then xchat
[00:01] <michealPW> It should unhide a black bar. Skype might be down there. I know what you're saying now :P
[00:01] <chris_33> hmm.. i don't see a black bar
[00:01] <michealPW> Nah I mean, like press Esc to close the hud/action menu if it's open and push your mouse to your bottom-right corner of your screen all the way
[00:02] <michealPW> Maybe I'm thinking of gnome 3haha
[00:02] <michealPW> Don't listen to me I'm an idiot (blushes)
[00:02] <chris_33> lol yea cause it's not working here
[00:02] <chris_33> how else can i get to skype? it's saying its running
[00:03] <chris_33> I tried launching it again, but it said it cant cause it's already running. I can't get to it
[00:03] <michealPW> Wait, uhh, on Unity if you open something it should always stay on your unity launcher
[00:03] <michealPW> Try right-clicking on it's icon?
[00:03] <michealPW> Iunno. I'm not good with Unity LOL
[00:04] <chris_33> yea i tried that. it's only letting me uninstall
[00:04] <michealPW> Oh weird
[00:04] <chris_33> i don't know why it's not in a task bar like in windows
[00:04] <michealPW> I wonder if that has to do with the weird indicator-panel thing that Unity uses? Iunno. Let me try a couple Google searches for you and see what I turn up :P
[00:04] <chris_33> ok, thank you
[00:05] <michealPW> Hey, found it : http://askubuntu.com/questions/74229/how-to-access-skype-in-unity#74951
[00:05] <michealPW> Apparently it's a common problem. That link brigns you to a comment with a solution, though :P
[00:05] <michealPW> Well, once you get Skype up anways haha
[00:05] <silindean> it's through wine ?
[00:06] <michealPW> No
[00:06] <silindean> native .deb ?
[00:06] <michealPW> It's just 'cause Skype wants to mimize to a taskbar and Unity uses a new indicator thingy which maybe Skype doesn't support.. So when you minimize/close Skype, it hides itself in a taskbar (Which doesn't exist in Unity)
[00:07] <silindean> too much fragmentation....
[00:07] <michealPW> ^ This, amen...
[00:07] <michealPW> But Canonical doesn't agree so our opinions are moot :P
[00:07] <michealPW> haha
[00:08] <michealPW> There's a solution, though.. You just change the way Skype behaves, so it never tries to hide in a taskbar anymore :P
[00:08] <michealPW> Which is kind of a brutish workaround but it will at least get you up and Skyping again :P
[00:08] <silindean> :)
[00:09] <michealPW> Unity makes me feel like a newbie, honestly. I can't tell you how many times I had something minimized and was looking around for it, LOL
[00:09] <ethanr> how can i make ubuntu run faster on my eee pc 901 netbook?
[00:09] <silindean> pure debian, is pure debian...
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: who says you have to use Unity?
[00:09] <michealPW> Debian 6.0.5 was great, but man it only had Wine 1.0... LOL wth?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: if you use LXDE, there is no issue:)
[00:10] <michealPW> ActionParsnip: Meh I don't like LXDE or XFCE. I use GNOME 3 personally :P
[00:10] <silindean> no wine here....no windows dll's
[00:10] <chris_33> nice, thank you
[00:10] <michealPW> It has a taskbar it just auto-hides :P
[00:11] <michealPW> hehe silindean. Ubuntu and Fedora you just apt-get install and get the latest Wine. Also PlayOnLinux fully updated and just works :P
[00:11] <chris_33> no, it's not working!
[00:11] <chris_33> rats........
[00:11] <michealPW> My mistake was probably going with Squeeze. I should have went with the Testing debian but meh. The frontpage recommended Squeeze haha
[00:11] <michealPW> chris_33: Sorry, mate. Hrmm!
[00:11] <chris_33> skype is still hiden :(
[00:11] <silindean> :)
[00:12] <chris_33> can we use oovoo on linux?
[00:12] <Steel_>  I'm running lubuntu on a laptop, and cannot get my touchpad to work.  The mouse function, and both buttons work fine I just can't get the mouse clicks with the touchpad to work.
[00:12] <michealPW> chris_33: Did you do this? gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist
[00:12] <chris_33> no where do i put this?
[00:12] <silindean> just wait for the html5 version of skype :P
[00:13] <michealPW> Add skype to your whitelist, so it looks like this in a terminal: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['JavaEmbeddedFrame', 'Skype', 'scp-dbus-service', 'Wine']"
[00:13] <michealPW> LOL silindean. html5 is where it's at (muscle)
[00:13] <ethanr> how can i make ubuntu run faster on my eee pc 901 netbook?
[00:13] <chris_33> wine?
[00:14] <chris_33> yea ubuntu is slow on my notebook too
[00:14] <silindean> try puppy linux
[00:14] <chris_33> i thought linux was faster than windows 7
[00:14] <sarsaeol_> try xubuntu
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> ethanr: install Lubuntu and use that
[00:14] <silindean> or that
[00:14] <silindean> options, options, options....
[00:15] <xecuter> hi
[00:15] <silindean> for newbies , these options make them quit
[00:15] <chris_33> xubuntu is a lazy version downgraded version of ubuntu isnt it?
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> silindean: maybe tey should look at themselves
[00:15] <ethanr> I really like the elegance of Unity, is there any way to optimize my system for it?
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: not at all
[00:15] <chris_33> oh..
[00:16] <michealPW> chris_33: Xubuntu uses XFCE instead of Unity. Lubuntu uses LXDE.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: its just ubuntu with a different default set of apps
[00:16] <chris_33> which one is best for someone that JUST came from windows like 5 hours ago?
[00:16] <michealPW> chris_33: They're lightweight alternatives to Unity, GNOME and KDE for machiens that do not have rippin' powerful GPUs and gigabytes of ram..
[00:16] <ethanr> I haven't tried lubuntu, but I have tried xubuntu. it's definetely faster, but just not as elegant.
[00:16] <chris_33> i want word, picture editor and fast
[00:16] <chris_33> something stable and fast and i go to college, so i need word processing and photo editing.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: I'd say Kubuntu as has a button the the bottom left for apps
[00:17] <chris_33> I have a cheap notebook :(
[00:17] <michealPW> chris_33: I would say probably Lubuntu or Xubuntu.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: for low resources, Lubuntu all the way
[00:17] <michealPW> chris_33: KDE is also great, however if you have sluggish performance with Ubuntu Kubuntu will be no improvement.
[00:18] <michealPW> In fact, Kubuntu is more sluggish in many areas than Unity or Gnome..
[00:18] <chris_33> So Lubuntu for sure guys?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: I would
[00:18] <chris_33> I trust you all. :)
[00:18] <michealPW> chris_33: Lubuntu or Xubuntu, yup :p
[00:18] <chris_33> what is their webpage? i'll download it now.
[00:18] <cyd> hiho
[00:18] <cyd> i've just installied lubuntu! yai!
[00:18] <cyd> ;-)
[00:18] <michealPW> Lubuntu is even more lighter than Xubuntu. If you want the maximum performance Lubuntu is where it's at, I think :P
[00:18] <chris_33> Cyd you like it?
[00:18] <silindean> www.microsoftstore.com there you go :P
[00:18] <michealPW> I'm not an expert, though :P
[00:19] <cyd> sure
[00:19] <michealPW> Oh god silindean
[00:19] <michealPW> LOL
[00:19] <chris_33> www.microsoft.com ? hmm..
[00:19] <silindean> so did nVidia took the bumblebee project ?
[00:19] <cyd> it's faster then ubunto
[00:19] <yeats> !lubuntu | chris_33
[00:19] <cyd> i hated the new user interface
[00:19] <cyd> on ubuntu
[00:19] <cyd> what they call it again?
[00:19] <silindean> unity
[00:19] <cyd> yeah
[00:19] <chris_33> cyd where do i download it?
[00:19] <cyd> lubuntu.org
[00:19] <xecuter> i luv tits
[00:19] <cyd> or something
[00:19] <chris_33> cyd: where do i download the lubuntu for my cheap slow notebook ?
[00:20] <michealPW> OMG Word is $180?!?!
[00:20] <hruejiwo> How do i install mediawiki on ubuntu?
[00:20] <michealPW> That's flippin' mad, man!
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> cyd: run:   free -m | head -n 3 | tail -n 1 | awk {'print $3'}         to see your used RAM :)
[00:20] <chris_33> michealpw: linux it's free. linux RULZ
[00:20] <cyd> ah it's http://lubuntu.net/
[00:20] <cyd> ok
[00:20] <cyd> @actionparsnip i give it try
[00:20] <silindean> yea, $180
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> cyd: I bet its quite low :)
[00:20] <yeats> hruejiwo: 'sudo apt-get install mediawiki'
[00:21] <hruejiwo> yeats: it's deprecated.
[00:21] <hruejiwo> it's a old version
[00:21] <yeats> !info mediawiki
[00:21] <michealPW> Windows 8 pro is ~$80, wow that has to be the cheapest Windows I've ever seen before...
[00:21] <chris_33> BUT is lubuntu still supported, updated and current, or is it old and no one is working on it anymore, extinct?
[00:21] <michealPW> The system requirements for Windows 8 reads like a video game :\
[00:21] <silindean> the upgrade version
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: yes but 12.04 isn't LTS
[00:22] <silindean> yes, it is
[00:22] <chris_33> NO 80.00 for an UPGRADE from windows 7. not ONLY 80 bucks
[00:22] <Hwkiller> lol... yes it is
[00:22] <cyd> @ActionParsnip it's 1221
[00:22] <yeats> hruejiwo: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Ubuntu
[00:22] <cyd> mb
[00:22] <michealPW> chris_33: Yea, Lubuntu is fully supported. It's the same system, only using Lxde instead of Gnome/Unity.
[00:22] <hruejiwo> ty yeats
[00:22] <chris_33> oh, ok. Thank you. I didn't want to download something outdated and not supported anymore
[00:22] <chris_33> I love ubuntu :)
[00:22] <wjtaylor> michaelPW: It didn't work. I installed the gnome-desktop session, then I reinstalled gnome-shell. Then I installed the tweak tool, which sucks. Do you know how to get the auto-snapping windows and all the goodness that the gnome youtube channel highlights?
[00:22] <michealPW> chris_33: Wow that's dirty, I thought it was a full OS.. Just an upgrade whoa, who would pay for an upgrade disk? What if the system had problems down the road, wouldn't you need to install Win7, then upgrade all overagain?!
[00:22] <michealPW> :\
[00:23] <Hwkiller> chris_33: 12.10 is fantastic too though, that is what I use now. It's pretty easy to upgrade versions of ubuntu if need be
[00:23] <cyd> but eclipse/android dv open, xchat, putty, chromium are open
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> cyd: wow you must have a lot open
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> cyd: still, for those apps open, not bad
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> cyd: why putty?
[00:23] <cyd> hmm and pidgin too
[00:23] <silindean> ssh
[00:23] <michealPW> wjtaylor: Yea those are all gnome-shell-extension- packages I think. Try installing gnome-shell-extension-common or something like that. Better yet do apt-cache search gnome-shell
[00:23] <cyd> i'm connected to a webserver
[00:24] <michealPW> You'll find a tonne of useful things. Then use gnome-tweak-tool to enable the extensions, including the Window things
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> cyd: you can ssh using terminal.....
[00:24] <michealPW> Lemme look, hehe
[00:24] <silindean> odd-on for terminal ?
[00:24] <cyd> i need putty for key-auth
[00:24] <silindean> add*
[00:25] <cyd> i didn't check wether the normal terminal support rsa-key-auth
[00:25] <cyd> so i use putty out of the box ;-)
[00:25] <fishscene> Greetings. I'm on Ubuntu 12.10 x64 and I'm trying to install the VMware View client provided here: https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/details?downloadGroup=VIEWCRT_LINUX_160&productId=266&rPId=3045 It launches the software center, but says it can not find the package. Any ideas?
[00:25] <yeats> cyd: it does
[00:25] <chris_33> lubuntu i'm donwloading it right now. 12.10
[00:25] <cyd> ok nice to know ;-)
[00:26] <cyd> i'm switching from windows ya know...
[00:26] <michealPW> Wait I'm not sure I understand the question, wjtaylor..
[00:26] <cyd> @chris_33 yeah give it a try... install process is pretty fast
[00:26] <michealPW> What exactly are you looking for, hehe?
[00:26] <chris_33> iim excited!
[00:26] <michealPW> I think my windows would snap-together automatically, hehe? I can show you a screenshot of my gnome-tweak-tool -> Shell Extensions if you want? :\
[00:27] <michealPW> chris_33: Honestly you can also just do sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[00:27] <michealPW> I installed Ubuntu LTS then did sudo apt-get install kubuntu edubuntu
[00:27] <cyd> @chris_33 are you already on ubuntu?
[00:27] <michealPW> 'cause I like KDE and I wanted all the educational programs/games for my kids. Now when I log-in, we can pick whatever desktop environment we want.
[00:28] <cyd> nice
[00:28] <silindean> how many kids do you have?
[00:28] <wjtaylor> michaelPM: I still have a gnome session that looks almost like gnome 2. It's just the menus are set up differently. I'm looking for all the cool features (auto docking windows, expanding workspaces, etc.  advertised by gnome 3)
[00:28] <cyd> i crashed my ubuntu hd recently
[00:28] <michealPW> KDE, Gnome, Unity etc. The same is true if you just sudo apt-get install lubuntu, you'd simply select "lxde" as your desktop environment instead of KDE.
[00:28] <michealPW> silindean: Two. 3 and 6 years old ;)
[00:28] <silindean> :)
[00:29] <chris_33> cyd: yes
[00:29] <michealPW> wjtaylor: Ahh, so when you start Ubuntu at the log-in screen, you click the Icon beside your name to expand a context menu which should have "GNOME", "Gnome Classic", "Gnome Classic 2d", etc... Select "Gnome"
[00:29] <cyd> @michealPW do they already want iphones?
[00:29] <michealPW> That's Gnome 3.
[00:29] <cyd> ahahaha
[00:29] <chris_33> cyd: but everyone is saying lubuntu is much much much much faster
[00:29] <michealPW> cyd: haha, nope, they're pre-occupied with supertux! :)
[00:29] <Bustacap> My sound control indicator doesn't work anymore :/ - It's still there, but doesn't work.
[00:30] <michealPW> chris_33: He doesn't mean that Lubuntu crashed his hd. All the Ubuntu's use the same kernel, which is waht would be in control of your disk (Not lxde hehe)
[00:30] <fishscene> I'm on Ubuntu 12.10 x64 and I'm trying to install the VMware View client provided here: https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/details?downloadGroup=VIEWCRT_LINUX_160&productId=266&rPId=3045 It launches the software center, but says it can not find the package. Any ideas?
[00:30] <chris_33> cyd: I want my computer to be as fast as the new power machines out there. I have a g60 HP which is about 2 years old
[00:30] <cyd> @chris_33 yes it is! you might just try an upgrade from your current ubuntu per command shell
[00:30] <michealPW> From the same version, of course (Lubuntu 12.04, Ubuntu 12.04 etc. all use kernel v3.2 of some sort.)
[00:31] <chris_33> i went to the lubuntu internet webpage and am downloading the 12.10 lubuntu. Am i doing it right?
[00:31] <silindean> let's help the vmware guy
[00:31] <chris_33> cyd: i went to the lubuntu internet webpage and am downloading the 12.10 lubuntu. Am i doing it right?
[00:31] <cyd> na i trashed my last ubuntu install by upgrading to the new version without enough hd-space
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: sure if you want to fresh install. Or you can install lxde on Ubuntu and it'll be the same except the theme
[00:32] <michealPW> chris_33: Both are fine. With the disk image you're downloading, you'll lose your current Ubuntu system I think. From a terminal you can add lxde to your current system.
[00:32] <wjtaylor> michaelPW: nope. I get a gnome session that is very boring. It look like the gnome classic session.
[00:32] <silindean> fishscene vmware player ?
[00:32] <cyd> @chris_33 try this command "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" without the " in your console
[00:33] <michealPW> wjtaylor: Ah, hrmm.. I'm wondering if maybe it's hitting a problem and doing a fallback session? I'm not sure mate. Pretty sure all I did was sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop hah I can't remember anymore.
[00:33] <fishscene> silindean: Not quite. It's kind of like RDC, but specifically for the VMware "view" method of accessing virtual machines remotely
[00:33] <michealPW> Maybe I got it from gnome.org's repo, let me check my sources
[00:33] <chris_33> I want to burn it on cd
[00:34] <wjtaylor> michaelPW: does your session have the autodocking, etc..??
[00:34] <cyd> @chris_33 just type in your unity search "terminal", start it and type in sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[00:34] <chris_33> im confused. what is better? installing it with the sudo apt get or just downloading the ISO and burning it to disk then reinstalling a fresh copy?????
[00:34] <michealPW> What's autodocking?
[00:34] <cyd> install from terminal
[00:34] <cyd> no need to reconfigure all your stuff
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: neither is outright better
[00:34] <silindean> fishscene: maybe VMware View Client for Linux is for 12.04 LTS... ?
[00:34] <cyd> you managed to get in here...
[00:34] <chris_33> actionparsnip: ok
[00:35] <cyd> so if you do a clean install you have to configure all the up again ;-)
[00:35] <tigrang> I have 2 network adapters setup in my VM running ubuntu server 12.10 and on startup the default gateway is only setup in routes for eth0, but I need it also for eth1. How can I configure it to setup both?
[00:35] <michealPW> Ohhhh wjtaylor my bad, I actually added the gnome PPA and installed from Gnome3-team..
[00:35] <michealPW> Let me find that page, brb
[00:35] <michealPW> That's right, too... I had nothing but problems with Gnome from Ubuntu's repos.
[00:35] <chris_33> cyd: ok i'll do sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[00:35] <michealPW> I had to install from gnome.org
[00:35] <dr_willis> if you want ONLY lubuntu from the start then just use the iso, If you want ubuntu+ lubuntu, it dosent  really matter
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: installing lubuntu-desktop will install lxde etc and you will use more space and you will have a few duplicated apps. Clean installing Lubuntu will give a fresh installl of Lubuntu with minimal apps and minimal HDD use but you will need to remove the stuff you have installed now
[00:36] <chris_33> actionparsnip: ok thank you for the heads up. fresh install would be better then.
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: neither is better than the other, both are just as good as each other
[00:36] <fishscene> silindean: Maybe. But I didn't find any kind of restrictions or anything mentioned. Just "Ubuntu? Download here!" type thing.
[00:36] <tigrang> eth1 is bridged so I can access the internet, eth0 is Host-only adapter. I can try and switch them (having eth0 as bridged and eth1 as host-only), but I'm sure there's a way to do it without having to do that?
[00:36] <michealPW> wjtaylor: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/gnome
[00:36] <michealPW> wjtaylor: Go to that link, it should get you started :P
[00:36] <cyd> @chris_33 you can clean up duplicates later
[00:37] <TheCrittaC> I'm having an issue with sound.
[00:37] <cyd> @chris_33 your package manager should identify them
[00:37] <TheCrittaC> My newer sound card doesn't seem to want to output sound, even though it's recognized by the OS.
[00:37] <chris_33> will i have to reblack list my wifi drivers?
[00:37] <wjtaylor> michaelPW: check this out. autodocking is at 2:00. Does your session do all this?
[00:37] <michealPW> I missed the link
[00:37] <chris_33> cyd: i really apreciate yoru help.
[00:38] <wjtaylor> michaelPW: yeah, that would help. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSGfS6K7pI0
[00:38] <silindean> fishscene: yea, no restrictions, but the release date (2012-09-28) is before 12.10 was out....
[00:38] <michealPW> hehe kk let me check it out
[00:38] <chris_33> I apreciate everyones help. I was scared my computer could not handle linux or something because it's soooo slow. Windows is faster, but i know linux should be faster
[00:39] <cyd> @chris_33 unity was designed with modern hardware in mind...
[00:39] <chris_33> unity is the theme / gui right?
[00:39] <michealPW> I sent you private message wjtaylor.
[00:39] <cyd> @chris_33 it's a shame they don't change the requirements
[00:39] <cyd> yeah
[00:39] <chris_33> k
[00:40] <cyd> lxde is more like windows in the user experience
[00:40] <chris_33> lxde?
[00:40] <cyd> yeah
[00:40] <michealPW> lubuntu ^
[00:40] <chris_33> that's the same as unity ?
[00:40] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[00:40] <cyd> the gui you are about to use
[00:41] <chris_33> it's nicer than the default ubuntu one i'm using right now ?
[00:41] <cyd> gui = grapchical user interface
[00:41] <silindean> maybe not
[00:41] <michealPW> Ohhhh wjtaylor, I seen autodock yes this feature is in Gnome 3 for me haha
[00:41] <dr_willis> its lighter then unity
[00:41] <cyd> it's like windows
[00:41] <chris_33> oh cool
[00:41] <michealPW> Did you get that private message I sent you? It's just a link, here: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/gnome
[00:41] <dr_willis> Its more like the old windows 95 layout
[00:41] <chris_33> yea i'm use to windows since 3.1
[00:41] <cyd> yes
[00:41] <cyd> windows 95 style
[00:41] <chris_33> 95? lol wow old days.
[00:41] <chris_33> as long as it's not dos.
[00:42] <silindean> :))
[00:42] <cyd> yeah what i'm missing is the snap feature of windows 7
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: i wouldn't say so
[00:42] <cyd> you pushing windows into the corner and to the side so they snap to them
[00:42] <cyd> can i upgrade lxde with this feature?
[00:43] <chris_33> my grandma has her old computer which had windows 3.1 (4 boxes on the screen). My uncle put on linux and now it's faster than my g60 HP notebook which is only 2 years old.
[00:43] <silindean> cyd: in unity does this exist, i think
[00:43] <cyd> hehe
[00:43] <dr_willis> cyd:  that would have to be somehow added to openbox. or some other window manager.
[00:43] <cyd> yeah right openbox is the window manager. let check google on that
[00:43] <dr_willis> the feature is in Unity with compiz and in Gnome-shell (whioch uses mutter)
[00:43] <dr_willis> Ive not noticed the feature in any othe window managers
[00:44] <cyd> @dr_willis ok i'll check of compiz for lxde
[00:44] <chris_33> OMG 30 min till it's downloaded. Another 30 min to burn it to cd and install it. I'm excited !!!!
[00:44] <chris_33> hope my computer will be much faster
[00:44] <silindean> install minix3 :P
[00:45] <dr_willis> cyd:  that sort of defeats the lightness of lxde ;)
[00:45] <cyd> @dr_willis yeah compiz is pretty heavy
[00:45] <silindean> and just for gnome 2 ?
[00:45] <cyd> but i only want this only feature
[00:45] <cyd> :(
[00:45] <chris_33> does lubuntu have all the default drivers for my wifi notebook card, my webcam and that?
[00:46] <cyd> yes
[00:46] <chris_33> oh phew
[00:46] <dr_willis> chris_33:  all the *buntus use the same underlaying core
[00:46] <cyd> it's the same code base as ubuntu
[00:46] <chris_33> oh good ok
[00:46] <cyd> only the gui is different
[00:46] <dr_willis> I do think Lubuntu uses a differnt default kernel then ubuntu. but it shouldent matter driverwise
[00:46] <cyd> one of the reasons i chose the lubuntu distro
[00:46] <chris_33> how does the gui make such a big difference in the speed of your computer?
[00:46] <dr_willis> i belive lubuntu uses the non-pae kernel by default
[00:46] <chris_33> i mean ubuntu to lubuntu ?
[00:47] <dr_willis> chris_33:  when the gui is the most memory/gpu intendve part of the OS. it matters.
[00:47] <chris_33> oh, ok
[00:47] <chris_33> :)
[00:47] <cyd> unity uses a lot of graphic resources to display it's nice interface
[00:47] <blackshirt> cyd, more light
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: in 12.04 yes
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: in 12.10, its pae in lubuntu
[00:48] <chris_33> so with lubuntu i shoulnt have a problem with the "hiding skype" bug that's going around?
[00:48] <chris_33> right now skype is running on my system, but i cant open it unless i log off and log on and run it again
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: should befine
[00:48] <chris_33> excelent :0
[00:49] <dr_willis> skype is proberly using more resources then the lubuntu desktop is. ;)
[00:49] <silindean> :))
[00:49] <chris_33> really?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> hahahaha
[00:49] <chris_33> wow
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> probs
[00:49] <chris_33> :)
[00:50] <silindean> i think firefox too @ dr_willis :)
[00:50] <dr_willis> id almost guarentee that FF or any other browsers would be using more   resoruces under normal ussage then the Lubuntu desktop gui would be using. ;)
[00:51] <chris_33> If i play a first person shooter which is a windows game like "black hawk down" or "counter strike" or "battle field" will it run faster in wine than on windows?
[00:51] <silindean> no
[00:51] <chris_33> no?
[00:51] <dr_willis> Unity+ff here watching a video - seems i got about 4gb in use. well 2 are cache.. :) so about 2 GB in use by the desktop + gui
[00:51] <chris_33> windows is faster than linux when it comes to playing first person shooter windows games?
[00:52] <cyd> yes
[00:52] <chris_33> cyd: who yes ?
[00:52] <silindean> because they where designed for directx not opengl
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: check the appdb
[00:52] <cyd> linux only offers open gl
[00:52] <yeats> chris_33: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> cyd: i'm sure urbanterror on both OSes runs pretty much equally well
[00:53] <cyd> @chris_33 linux only offers open gl as a 3d-interface for programming games
[00:53] <cyd> @chris_33 and most games are programmed to the directx interface of microsoft
[00:54] <silindean> dr_willis 2GB unity ???
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> cyd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQFBK1yNIxE
[00:54] <cyd> @chris_33 directx is much closer to the xna for the xbox360
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> cyd: not played Penumbra either?
[00:54] <chris_33> cyd: oh i see. so games are more for windows
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> cyd: or doom3?
[00:54] <Haswell> which ubuntu consumes less cpu, ram and graphics ? kubuntu or ubuntu ?
[00:54] <chris_33> lubuntu
[00:54] <chris_33> right
[00:54] <xangua> Haswell: lubuntu
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: there are linux games, great games
[00:54] <cyd> but the game is changing... steam will be now on linux too
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> cyd: did you play those games?
[00:54] <chris_33> wow really? nice!
[00:55] <silindean> yea, steam on linux...next phase
[00:55] <cyd> nope
[00:55] <michealPW> Haswell: I think Ubuntu, mate. KDE is pretty bulky. They're pretty similar, though. Both Unity/Gnome and KDE are very heavy desktops.
[00:55] <cyd> i've heard of urban terror
[00:55] <chris_33> actionparsnip? so your opinion linux can play games faster than windows?
[00:55] <silindean> Haswell: 2 votes for ubuntu
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: in some cases, yes
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> cyd: also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQFBK1yNIxE
[00:56] <Haswell> chris_33, but lubuntu will be cut in other benefits, wont it?
[00:56] <michealPW> chris_33: It depends on the game in question. Check the appdb. Some games run amazingly fast in Wine, some run horribly sluggish in Wine (WINE is a compatibility layer that allows Windows games/programs to run natively on Linux.)
[00:56] <cyd> @ActionParsnip it all depends on the drivers
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> cyd: also depends on the game
[00:56] <chris_33> actionparsnip: i see
[00:56] <Haswell> thanks michealPW  silindean
[00:56] <silindean> Haswell: KDE, in my opinion is verry buggy, compared to Unity
[00:56] <chris_33> ok. got it :)
[00:56] <michealPW> chris_33: Wine is a work in progress and not all games are engineered the same way, therefore there will be huge variations.. http://appdb.wine.org/ I believe.
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> cyd: so a blanket 'Windows is better' is ignorant at best
[00:57] <michealPW> I disagree silindean, but I install KDE 4.9.2 from backports, not 4.8.4 which Precise repos offer...
[00:57] <cyd> @ActionParsnip na if you want to play the newest games Windows is still the best their is
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> chris_33: check the appdb for compatibility, there are also fantastic native games
[00:57] <lukecarrier> Wine's getting better!
[00:57] <michealPW> 4.8.4 was nothing but problems for me.
[00:57] <silindean> michealPW: 4.9.2 maybe
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> cyd: humble bundle is always kicking out new games
[00:58] <lukecarrier> Check PlayonLinux if you really don't want to be forced into running Windows
[00:58] <cyd> but games don't matter that much for me anymore
[00:58] <cyd> yeah i've bought the recent package
[00:58] <cyd> @ActionParsnip i've bought the recent package
[00:58] <CruX|> hello is it possible to upgrade ubuntu 10.10 with do-release-update ?
[00:58] <chris_33> ok im burning the lubuntu to cd then installing it in a minute or two. just finding a blank dvd to burn it on
[00:58] <CruX|> at this time
[00:59] <michealPW> Indeed, PlayOnLinux is great. Still, though. Wine cannot be used to play all Windows-based games. I still have Win7 on my gaming machine that I dual-boot into to play certain games that just will not work with Wine.
[00:59] <CruX|> because i have some 404 http errors
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> cyd: so, how new do you want?
[00:59] <cyd> @chris_33 cd is enought
[00:59] <chris_33> ok
[00:59] <michealPW> Or that will not work well with wine.
[00:59] <CruX|> can be this done without reinstalling ?
[00:59] <cyd> @chris_33 or wait try to build a usb stick
[00:59] <cyd> @chris_33 don't waste a cd on it ,-)
[00:59] <chris_33> ubs ?  ok 1 gig is enough ?
[00:59] <chris_33> i have a 1 gig usb key
[00:59] <cyd> @chris_33 you know how to build an usb stick? sure 1gb is enough
[01:00] <michealPW> CruX|: Yes but it's not ideal. You would have to dist-upgrade repeatedly, from 10.10 to 11.04, from 11.04 to 11.10, from 11.10 to 12.04, and then from 12.04 to 12.10...
[01:00] <chris_33> yup, startup disk creator
[01:00] <michealPW> CruX|: So technically yes you can upgrade, but really that's nuts.. LOL.
[01:00] <silindean> ActionParsnip: Heroes of Newerth runs well on mint, almos like on windows
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> cyd: I think the humble bundle guys kicked out..what...5 bundles this year, new enough?
[01:00] <Haswell> What benefits are cut in lubuntu, comparing with ubuntu?
[01:00] <michealPW> Haswell: They're all the same system, just using different desktops. Lubuntu uses LXDE.
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Haswell: less RAM usage
[01:00] <michealPW> Hense the "L" ;)
[01:01] <cyd> @ActionParsnip i bought the one with the android games
[01:01] <CruX|> michealPW: thx
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> Haswell: lighter applications, like abiwrd instead of libreoffice
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> cyd: still 'new' aren't they?
[01:01] <cyd> @ActionParsnip humble bundle android 4
[01:01] <cyd> @ActionParsnip some games are old, some new...
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> cyd: so aren't they the latest games?
[01:02] <cyd> @ActionParsnip no
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> cyd: sure, they are released this year.....
[01:02] <dr_willis> been playing Rochard here. ;)
[01:02] <cyd> @ActionParsnip that's not latest...
[01:02] <michealPW> You're being silly cyd hehe
[01:03] <Haswell> ok thanks
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> cyd: released this year isn't latest...interesting
[01:03] <michealPW> Games released this year (2012) aren't "new" ? :\
[01:03] <cyd> nope
[01:03] <michealPW> 2012 is how many months old? (giggle)
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: who knew
[01:03] <michealPW> LOL Actions
[01:03] <silindean> :P
[01:03] <cyd> @ActionParsnip new games are coming every month...
[01:04] <josesantos> hello
[01:04] <cyd> but it think you are still right...
[01:04] <silindean> but the old ones are still there in the package ?
[01:04] <michealPW> Meh iunno. I just play games that are fun
[01:04] <michealPW> Some are from the 1990s, haha some are from 2011..
[01:04] <michealPW> :\
[01:04] <cyd> @ActionParsnip because the latest games are coming out on android and ios... and it's all linux under the hood
[01:04] <Bleu_> hi everybody
[01:05] <silindean> hi @Bleu
[01:05] <xangua> cyd: ios sure is not :P
[01:05] <Bleu_> hi, could u help me 1 mn plz ?
[01:05] <cyd> @ActionParsnip so you are right... but the hardcore games are only on windows... maybe xbox or ps3... etc
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> cyd: i'm fully aware of android
[01:05] <chris_33> cyd: i found a blank cd-rw cd :)
[01:05] <chris_33> cyd: 700 mb
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> cyd: but games do run and run well in Linux
[01:05] <josesantos> just installed 12.10 but doesn't seem to like my oldie SiS videocard. Are there know issues with this or is it just a question of LLVM being too demanding?
[01:05] <silindean> @Bleu just pop the question :P
[01:05] <cyd> @ActionParsnip yeah yeah i believe you
[01:06] <cyd> @josesantos try archlinux instead
[01:06] <Bleu_> i'm connection in root@dsqlkjdsq.qsdj.Abo.fr
[01:06] <cyd> @josesantos download your own driver... or program it yourself LOL
[01:06] <Bleu_> i dont know how to change it :)
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> josesantos: I'd install a light DE. You may need an xorg.conf file to make it load the driver needed
[01:07] <Bleu_> someone told me i must chance smthng in my client settings but i didnt find what
[01:07] <josesantos> ActionParsnip: I've installed xfce
[01:07] <michealPW> ios is objective-c and html5 ;)
[01:07] <josesantos> can't get passed a blank screen
[01:07] <cyd> @chris_33 good luck at installing...
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> josesantos: you'll need the xorg.conf file :).
[01:08] <josesantos> I figured as much. But is the driver available via apt-get?
[01:08] <cyd> @michealPW ios is a derivate of unix... http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_iOS
[01:08] <silindean> @Bleu what distro do you use ?
[01:08] <cyd> @michealPW so ios is similar to linux...
[01:09] <xangua> cyd: you don't need to @at anyone so they can ready you :) i'm getting dizzy @_@
[01:09] <Bleu_> bt
[01:09] <josesantos> the card is detected fine. Why would X complain?
[01:09] <josesantos> I't seemed to work on 12.04, or so I've read
[01:09] <michealPW> cyd: UNIX != Linux...
[01:09] <cyd> xangua ok sorry dude ;-) @@
[01:09] <silindean> @Bleu BackTrack ?
[01:09] <Bleu_> ^^ (now you'll think i'm a n00b who want to crack a wep)
[01:09] <Bleu_> yes
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> Bleu_: then you should ask in #backtrack-linux
[01:09] <silindean> :)
[01:10] <almoxarife> josesantos: do you have the headers for the kernel installed?
[01:10] <cyd> michaelPW ok ok sorry
[01:10] <michealPW> cyd: Not to mention, a kernel does not make an OS. I don't want to get into a big rant or anything but I mean things like the compiler, the shared libraries and stuff make more of an impact than the kernel. The kernel just exposes functions in hardware.
[01:10] <josesantos> almoxarife: not sure. I installed ubuntu server and after xubuntu-desktop
[01:11] <michealPW> The shared libraries use these functions to implement routines that programs use to do neat things. All iOS apps are either objective-c using Apple's build-tools and a bunch of objective-c libraries or they're html5 web-apps parsed by WebKit.
[01:11] <silindean> you know stuff , michealPW :)
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> josesantos: why not just install Xubuntu?
[01:11] <oldgettingsomewh> what packages to get a good wpa wordlist?
[01:11] <Bleu_> ActionParsnip, i did it's empty now
[01:11] <michealPW> A lot of apple fanbois wont want to admit, but MOST iOS apps are actually web-apps... html5 boys (muscle)
[01:11] <josesantos> ActionParsnip: didn't I do that?
[01:11] <cyd> michealPW thx for the correction. i'm still busy digging into my OS-lecture ;-)
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> Bleu_: so, doesn't mean you get to ask here
[01:12] <almoxarife> josesantos: in terminal 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic' assuming they are not there they will install, may help with old cards
[01:12] <michealPW> hehe sorry, I didn't mean to sound arrogant or anything (blush)
[01:12] <Bleu_> backtrack is an ubuntu :)
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> Bleu_: backtrack support is entirely separate to ubuntu
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> Bleu_: it's not, it backtrack
[01:12] <michealPW> I love technology, hehe, I like talking about these things. I'm a web-developer, so android ios and blackberry is big on my radar :)
[01:12] <josesantos> almoxarife: thanks
[01:12] <cyd> michealPW i still have this 600+ pages almanach to read through about Operation Systems... ahaha
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> Bleu_: similarly, ubuntu is based on Debian, but if you ask for ubuntu support in #debian you will be pointed here
[01:13] <oldgettingsomewh> android makes me angry
[01:13] <michealPW> hehe cyd sounds exciting! :)
[01:13] <almoxarife> if you have to ask for help with backtrack on ubuntu you are not ready for backtrack
[01:13] <xangua> !ot | michealPW: oldgettingsomewh you can talk more about them in the offtopic ;)
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> Zigouigoui: you aren't using Ubuntu, so you aren't supported here
[01:13] <michealPW> Sorry, xangua :\
[01:13] <josesantos> another question, to change runlevel on boot all I need is the number at the end of the linux entry on grub correct?
[01:13] <oldgettingsomewh> androind is linux kernel?
[01:13] <michealPW> xangua: hehe in my defense.. We STARTED on-topic :)
[01:13] <Zigouigoui> thank you really, sweet guys ;)
[01:13] <dr_willis> !runlevel
[01:13] <michealPW> It just kinda, well, you know how it goes :)
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> josesantos: you can add the word:  text
[01:14] <josesantos> ah, so runlevel 3 would not work?
[01:14] <dr_willis> !text | josesantos
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> Zigouigoui: its how the channel works. NONE of the 'Ubuntu based distros' are supported here, ONLY canonical releases
[01:14] <dr_willis> josesantos:  most likely not.
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> Zigouigoui: Backtrack is not a canonical release so isn't supported here
[01:14] <josesantos> would text option give me multi user?
[01:14] <cyd> michealPW hmm ok so what ubuntu distro are you using? (to get back to ubuntu, ahahah)
[01:14] <josesantos> because right now I'm on runlevel 1
[01:15] <michealPW> oldgettingsomewh: I can answer your question with a question? Linux kernel is the interface for your PC hardware right? Well, what pc hardware is in a cell phone? hehe :)
[01:15] <dr_willis> josesantos:  yes. it just keeps lightdm.whateverdm from starting
[01:15] <michealPW> cyd: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS! (muscle)
[01:15] <josesantos> every other hangs me on X
[01:15] <josesantos> ok cool. I'll be right back then ;)
[01:15] <michealPW> If I continue I'll probably get kicked </rant>
[01:15] <michealPW> hehehe!
[01:15] <silindean> :P
[01:16] <silindean> guys, nice talk... europe here, says good night to all of you :)
[01:16] <cyd> don't mess with the ops...
[01:16] <cyd> LOL
[01:16] <OpenSorce> Does anyone know if there is an X11 support channel?
[01:16] <dr_willis> ther kernel is an interface to the hardware - the 'pc' term is incorrect. ;)
[01:16] <dr_willis> You can buy Arm based Desktop machines.
[01:16] <michealPW> haha dr_willis, touche :P
[01:16] <michealPW> ARM processors are so powerful these days :\
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> OpenSorce: try #xorg
[01:17] <oldgettingsomewh> anyone know a good ubuntu go to guy to heat up this issue?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> oldgettingsomewh: ask and the channel will reply
[01:17] <OpenSorce> ActionParsnip, yep found it thanks :-)
[01:18] <josesantos> Hi back
[01:18] <oldgettingsomewh> i need  a good site to learn more about the terminal commands
[01:18] <oldgettingsomewh> like a huge linux wiki
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> !manual
[01:19] <oldgettingsomewh> is their some ubuntu wiki as extensive a arch wiki
[01:19] <evbogue> What's the best way to do mesh networking using Ubuntu?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> evbogue: there is no single best way to do anything, in any OS
[01:21] <OpenSorce> ActionParsnip, what an awesome statement, may I quote you?
[01:21] <rypervenche> What's that best bot thing?
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> OpenSorce: sure
[01:22] <oldgettingsomewh> ahh so a bunch of bots is what you want lol??
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> !best
[01:22] <michealPW> evbogue: Can't you install those OLPC packages, I thought those were all originally developed with Ubuntu in mind?
[01:22] <michealPW> evbogue: Sorry I don't have a more direct answer for you..
[01:22] <oldgettingsomewh> maybee mr basic instructions can help?
[01:22] <evbogue> michaelPW: I'll look into what OLPC is doing, thank you.
[01:23] <oldgettingsomewh> !echo logout
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> evbogue: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/338
[01:23] <gunarm1> i know ddrescue can take upwards of 50 hours when splitting, but i'm running it on my 60GB ssd, and it's says the error size is 9223 PB, and the ipos/opos is way above 60gb (306523MB).  21 hours since the last successful read.  is it going to just go on forever in an infinte loop since the size seems to be reported incorrectly?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> OpenSorce: I don't understand why people think there could even be a 'best' its preposterous
[01:24] <michealPW> evbogue: Sorry maybe I'm thinking of something else. The first I heard/learned about mesh networking was from the OLPC (One Laptop Per-Child) project which was supposed to use a Linux system like Ubuntu (Since it was free) but I'm not sure what happened after Intel and Microsoft got influence in the project :\
[01:24] <gunarm1> ActionParsnip, because any time you go into tech support and ask for help people ask "why are you doing it that way, thats dumb!" and so people get obsessed with best practice
[01:25] <cyd> michealPW i've heard of an tablet experiment recently
[01:25] <aaas> so I have a usb drive that has different OSs on it.  I made an ISO of this drive.  I'd like to be able to modify this iso and copy it to a usb when I need to.  copying I can do, and modification I can too (using MagicISO), the problem is that if I rewrite the iso using magiciso it looses it's ability to boot.  Is there a 1) a way to modify iso files without rewriting them OR 2) make an iso bootable
[01:25] <blackness> Does anyone know where one can get the pastebin source thats on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[01:25] <cyd> michealPW they dropped some tablets in uneducated areas of africa and recollected them after a 3 months period of use
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> blackness: how do you mean?
[01:26] <blackness> I'd like to host a copy of it, so i can use it as a private pastebin.
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> blackness: ahh I see
[01:27] <blackness> i have one, but it doesnt accept pipe commands or anything..i have to copy and paste..and paste.ubuntu.com accepts piped commands
[01:27] <oldgettingsomewh> it seems for aynalization and implementation?
[01:27] <fishscene> blackness: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:27] <fishscene> I just discovered this and installed it yesterday :)
[01:28] <blackness> thats what i want, but for my own http server...
[01:28] <blackness> i know what pastebinit is.
[01:28] <michealPW> Yea I haven't read a lot about that but I read a headline about it on slashdot cyd hehe
[01:28] <blackness> i need the HOST side of that.
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> blackness: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Productivity-Sauce/Host-Your-Own-Secure-Pastebin-with-ZeroBin
[01:29] <blackness> thats more like a mailing list forum
[01:29] <blackness> http://blackness.sytes.net:81/paste/ is what i got already
[01:29] <blackness> i can use curl, but i cant do alot of text
[01:30] <KBentley57> Is anyone running wine 1.5.17 (from the ubuntu wine ppa) on 64 bit in here?
[01:30] <KBentley57> Or wine in general on 64 bit?
[01:30] <chris_33> cyd
[01:30] <cyd> chris_33 jo sup?
[01:30] <cyd> chris_33 everything went your way?
[01:30] <chris_33> cyd: i have a problem. i stoped the install sudo get lubuntu and now it wont let me install it the way you told me to now
[01:31] <chris_33> cyd: and the linux wont even mount my cd rom so i can burn it to cd rom
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> KBentley57: just install it and the deps will be handled
[01:31] <dr_willis> you dont mount a cd to burn things..
[01:31] <chris_33> cyd: i messed up my linux so i can't burn anythung to cd rom and it wont let me change to lubuntu
[01:31] <cyd> hmm chris_33 just build the usb-stick
[01:32] <chris_33> i put in my usb stick and it wont even delete anything on it
[01:32] <KBentley57> ActionParsnip, I did that, but I'm having some problems with frame rates, apparantly it stems from only having the 64 bit amd catalyst drivers, and most of the wine stuff being 32 bit. I'm not able to use any of my cards openGL extensions so it seems
[01:32] <cyd> hmm
[01:32] <cyd> sounds strange
[01:32] <cyd> do you still have windows on your laptop?
[01:32] <cyd> try to burn the cd in windows
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> KBentley57: what video chip do you use?
[01:32] <KBentley57> ActionParsnip, I've been on the wine irc for a couple days trying to figure it out, plus there are tons of posts about the same thing over the web
[01:32] <KBentley57> ActionParsnip, AMD 6970
[01:33] <chris_33> cyd: it wont mount usb stick now
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> KBentley57: and what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[01:33] <chris_33> cyd: now it's saying that there is not enough space on the usb stick to format. what the heck.
[01:33] <evbogue> Is anyone using mesh networking on their Ubuntu device(s)?
[01:33] <chris_33> it's a  8  gig usb stick
[01:33] <cyd> lol
[01:34] <cyd> try to format the stick per terminal
[01:34] <KBentley57> ActionParsnip, you could have just asked what I'm running :P
[01:34] <dr_willis> you can use dd to image the iso directly to the usb also.
[01:34] <KBentley57> ActionParsnip, quantal
[01:34] <chris_33> cyd: ok i just tried another usb key and it's working. man did linux break my other usb key ?
[01:35] <cyd> no i don't think so ;-)
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> KBentley57: its a one-covers-all command :)
[01:37] <michealPW> Try just reformating the old key again, chris_33. Use a different filesystem, maybe ext2? Iunno what a good fs would be for usb keys hehe I use Windows to format them fat honestly
[01:38] <michealPW> 'cause I don't know a better way to get the most flexability out of them, just plugging them into any system
[01:42] <Magiobiwan> I use FAT32 on my thumb drives michealPW
[01:46] <michealPW> Yea
[01:49] <hydester> how do i know if a device is connected with usb 2.0 vs slower?
[01:54] <walterwoj> I just set up a new system with a dedicated partition for filesharing mounted at /storage what permissions do need to set do make it work for a samba server share?
[01:56] <lgc> Hi, how can I burn an ISO image onto a DVD?
[01:57] <Haswell> lgc, with software, for example with k3b
[01:58] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto   lgc
[01:59]  * sarsaeol_ is listening to Cherrybomb Part II by Caribou from Up in Flames (1:41 / 4:34) (765 kbps Apple Lossless)
[01:59] <sarsaeol_> oops
[01:59] <lgc> bazhang, I'll take a look at it. Thanks.
[01:59] <dwarder> hello
[02:00] <dwarder> am i understand right that all cron that are run on a box are there /var/spool/cron/crontabs ?
[02:03] <iFlip> crontabs are amazing. I reset my network permission with them to clean up any anomalies
[02:03] <thoonai> hi
[02:03] <jud> Just trying to install ubuntu 12.10 on a new laptop which has windows 7. Unable to boot from dvd.
[02:04] <thoonai> bye
[02:04] <amanda_> The mi on my acer aspire laptop hasn't worked for several updates now.  I'm on 12.04 and it worked around the time 12.04 was released to the general public.  Not sure which update hosed it, but it was several months ago.  Speakers are fine, but both internal and a mic plugged into the jack are not.
[02:05] <amanda_> jud, is it the new "don't boot from anything but your windows partition" scheme Microsoft is implemeting with some vendors?
[02:06] <Sazpaimon> does anyone use circular scrolling on their touchpad? It seems very poor to me on ubuntu
[02:06] <ThraXeD> hi im chris, my facebook is https://www.facebook.com/TehlreacXteuDs?ref=tn_tnmn
[02:06] <Sazpaimon> on windows, the motion is a lot more natural, on ubuntu, I need to make a wider motion, and even then, the scrollbar still jumps all over the place
[02:08] <bazhang> !ot | ThraXeD
[02:09] <Sazpaimon> honestly, touchpad support in linux in general seems very very poor
[02:09] <jud> amanda: I don't know. but if I run the exe from inside widows a menue comes up with a boot from disk selection. When I select that it says that ubuntu needs to install a boot program which is not required with most systems. So I did that and then I'm given the option to boot ubuntu or windows and then it will boot from the dvd but I wanted to do the side by side installation??
[02:09] <dr_willis> the hardware makers are often the ones not releaseing specs or giving support to the  Linux devs
[02:10] <Sazpaimon> aren't synaptics drivers open source?
[02:10] <dr_willis> when everything has to be reverse engeinnered it can get touchy,
[02:11] <dr_willis> X.org also i belive did some big changes to the touchpad drivers  within the last year or so,  Broke some things fixed some things.
[02:12] <Sazpaimon> probably to introduce some semblance of multitouch support
[02:12] <dr_willis> the drivers written by the linux devs are open sourced.. but i dont know what sort of info Synaptic the comany has actually released
[02:13] <jud> what's the keyboard short cut to fill out some ones name when addressing a message?
[02:13] <dr_willis> !tab
[02:13] <blackshirt> !info voip-server
[02:13] <blackshirt> !info voip
[02:13] <WeThePeople> anybody know how to sync ubuntu-one to a comp
[02:13] <blackshirt> !find voip
[02:14] <blackshirt> !ubottu find voip
[02:14] <gustav__> My touchpad won't scroll horizontally since some time back.
[02:14] <dr_willis> try apt-cache search voip  on your system
[02:15] <Sazpaimon> Regardless, whatever the reason why it doesn't work right, it's still making it very difficult to stick with linux on my laptop
[02:17] <gustav__> This laptop came with Ubuntu and Ubuntu has a lot of flaws, annoyances, but Windows seems reeeally f-cked now. It even has ads in some applications. Like Office.
[02:17] <Sazpaimon> Can't say I see the same in windows 8, but okay
[02:18] <gustav__> But then again, Ubuntu Store or what it's called has ads too.
[02:18] <Sazpaimon> either way, I'm sticking with windows 8 on my laptop until touchpad support improves
[02:18] <gustav__> Buy this and that application.
[02:19] <cyd> @chris_33
[02:19] <cyd> chris_33 still there?
[02:19] <gustav__> Ubuntu has this babysitter perspective of it's users that I don't like. Otherwise it's okay. The package system is the best. ppa-stuff is brilliant.
[02:19] <Sazpaimon> all I want is better circular scrolling and not broken multi-monitor support for touchpads, really
[02:19] <Sazpaimon> I use gentoo on my desktop, and yeah the babysitting does annoy me too
[02:19] <gustav__> Small things can break a deal.
[02:20] <dr_willis> any laptop with windows 8 is so new i would be suprised theres not more issues with it under ubuntu.
[02:20] <Sazpaimon> compared to gentoo, that is
[02:20] <jud> amanda: I wasn't aware of that monopolising scam does it sound like this machine fits the bill?
[02:20] <Sazpaimon> dr_willis, my laptop didn't come with windows 8
[02:20] <Sazpaimon> it
[02:20] <pouncerkitsune> How is everyone tonight?
[02:20] <Sazpaimon> it's just a standard run of the mill machine
[02:20] <gustav__> Slackware is the best for non-babysitting. It can't be updated I think. You're on your own after installing.
[02:20] <dr_willis> Dont see much point in upgradeing a system to Win8 either. but i dont plan on buying a new laptop any time soon.
[02:21] <javatexan> I tried sudo mount -t cifs //server/Public /home/mia/shows -o username=mia,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777  I get a Unable to find suitable address…help
[02:21] <amanda_> Whats the setting I need to change so that Shift+NumPad 1 highlights to the end of a row (on a laptop number pad) rather than registering as a 1 ?
[02:21] <javatexan> i tried ip and name
[02:21] <Sazpaimon> I'm actually very much happy with my windows 8 upgrade, but I wanted to try ubuntu since I got invited to the steam beta, and only ubuntu is supported for that
[02:22] <Rosbuntu> i want to a coder of linux, where can i start , some one tell me
[02:22] <blackshirt> rosbuntu, coder for mp3 likes codec or coding term ?
[02:22] <Rosbuntu> coding term
[02:23] <Sazpaimon> do you know any programming languages already?
[02:23] <Rosbuntu> nope
[02:23] <blackshirt> rosbuntu, go to kernel.org and download them, learn them if you can ....
[02:23] <dr_willis> if you want to learn to program.. and know nothing about programing.. id say learn pythin
[02:23] <dr_willis> Python
[02:23] <Sazpaimon> well, go pick up a book on python or perl
[02:23] <wyclif> Rosbuntu: learn to write little bash scripts, think about learning python or ruby
[02:23] <gustav__> OCaml.
[02:24] <Rosbuntu> is python hard to learn?
[02:24] <gustav__> Nope.
[02:24] <wyclif> Rosbuntu: on average, no
[02:24] <Rosbuntu> i see, so what wud i able to do if i learn pythone
[02:24] <blackshirt> almost linux kernel part was written with C
[02:24] <gustav__> This was an interesting package: wikipediafs.
[02:25] <wyclif> Rosbuntu: if you're a raw beginner, search for the HTML version of the online book, "Learn Python the Hard Way" by Zed Shaw, or "Think Python" which is also free online
[02:25] <amanda_> Rosbuntu, I've got the Oreilly python book.  I'm leaving for Myrtle Beach tomorrow (driving down from Maine)  Are you on my way?
[02:25] <Sazpaimon> python isn't hard because 90% of the code you need is already written
[02:25] <blackshirt> rosbuntu, thats depends on your brain and your capability
[02:25] <Snane> when using the windows installer, is 30gb the max install size? does that mean ill only have 30gb when using it?
[02:25] <gustav__> Rosbuntu: Reading code will make you learn it. And writing code. Try to mimik.
[02:25] <Sazpaimon> like, the first 20+ lines of your python script will be just importing a bajillion libraries that does all of the work for you
[02:26] <Rosbuntu> i see, do u guys know about mirc software?
[02:26] <amanda_> Aren't a lot of the scripts in /etc/init.d python?
[02:26] <Sazpaimon> I dont see what mirc has to do with linux
[02:26] <Rosbuntu> can i make  mirc software learning python?
[02:26] <amanda_> Isn't mirc the irc client?
[02:26] <wyclif> Rosbuntu: The Hitchhiker's Guide to Python: http://docs.python-guide.org/en/latest/
[02:26] <Sazpaimon> it is
[02:26] <dr_willis> Rosbuntu:  it would be an 'IRC' Client.
[02:26] <blackshirt> rosbuntu, sure
[02:26] <Rosbuntu> yep
[02:27] <Sazpaimon> im pretty sure this guy only wants to make mirc scripts
[02:27] <dr_willis> mIRC is a specific client.
[02:27] <Rosbuntu> lol no
[02:27] <Rosbuntu> actually i want to make a mirc like light sotware, which will work on linux
[02:27] <Sazpaimon> you want to make an IRC client?
[02:27] <dr_willis> theres dozens of irc clients allready out there.
[02:27] <wyclif> Rosbuntu: Python books: a list of free resources http://pythonbooks.revolunet.com/
[02:27] <Rosbuntu> Sazpaimon yep
[02:27] <Sazpaimon> why?
[02:27] <dr_willis> You should set your sights a bit lower to begin with i imagine...
[02:28] <Sazpaimon> what's wrong with irssi, or xchat?
[02:28] <wyclif> Sazpaimon: I love irssi
[02:28] <Sazpaimon> what problem are you attempting to solve here?
[02:28] <Rosbuntu> Sazpaimon they r not that much flexible like mirc
[02:28] <wyclif> Sazpaimon: using irssi right now
[02:28] <Sazpaimon> yes there are
[02:28] <dr_willis> most linux irc cleints are 100x more flexiable them mIRC is
[02:28] <Rosbuntu> Sazpaimon i see
[02:28] <Rosbuntu> dr_willis omg really?
[02:28] <blackshirt> i think rosbuntu was not enough have knowledge on them
[02:28] <dr_willis> weechat is amazing in its flexavbiltyu
[02:29] <Sazpaimon> just because you can't write silly mirc scripts in them doesn't make them not flexible
[02:29] <share> Ron Paul uses Ubuntu http://youtu.be/d-N5adYM7Kw?t=4m16s
[02:29] <dr_willis> Rosbuntu:  your experience with IRC clients is quite limited.
[02:29] <Rosbuntu> dr_willis yep thats true though
[02:29] <Sazpaimon> basically you're saying "I can't use this mirc script so it isn't flexible"
[02:29] <dr_willis> Rosbuntu:  WeeChat for example is 'scriptable' in like 4 differnt languages
[02:29] <dr_willis> all useable at the same time
[02:30] <Sazpaimon> xchat is scriptable in at least 10 languages
[02:30] <Rosbuntu> dr_willis is it light like mirc
[02:30] <wyclif> share: Ron Paul uses BitchX, why don't you?
[02:30] <Sazpaimon> ruby, python, lua, perl, c, and a bunch others
[02:30] <share> cause I use Arch
[02:30] <dr_willis> 'light' is a vague term.. and I imagine comapred to WeeChat - that mIRC is quite bloated
[02:30] <mike_buntu> hi guys, can anyone help me please, should ubuntu automaticaly detect my usb wintv-hvr tv tuner card?
[02:30] <Rosbuntu> ahh i see
[02:31] <wyclif> share: yeah but Arch is a Linux distro, BitchX is an IRC client
[02:31] <share> cause I use irssi
[02:31] <wyclif> share: Ron Paul uses irssi too
[02:32] <blackshirt> i use irssi
[02:32] <share> Ron Paul uses Ubuntu for our safety
[02:32] <Rosbuntu> ok lemme download a python ebook
[02:33] <mike_buntu> Ron Paul bum fucked your momma
[02:33] <share> !ops
[02:33] <wyclif> share: Ron Paul also writes amazing Haskell code
[02:34] <jud> trying to install ubuntu 12.10 on new laptop. At first won't boot from dvd. Run the exe in windows, select "help me boot from cd" option, it says it needs to install boot program which is not normally required. I do that and it gives me the option when restarting then to boot windows or ubuntu from disk but how do I do the side by side install this way? It seems to be all or nothing. If it was my machine I'd say screw windows but it aint
[02:34] <bazhang> share and wyclif take the chit chat elsewhere please
[02:35] <wyclif> bazhang: no "chit chat" actually, answering support question re: irssi kthxbye
[02:35] <share> bye
[02:36] <bazhang> wyclif, Ron Paul has nothing to do with this. so yes, it's offtopic
[02:36] <wyclif> bazhang: nope. it was about irssi. thanks.
[02:37] <thoonai> hello
[02:37] <thoonai> hi i need help with my matrox g450 x4
[02:38] <dr_willis> Matrox? thats how old a card>
[02:38] <L3top> thoonai: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[02:39] <thoonai> L3top: ok
[02:39] <thoonai> L3top: wrong decision, I already dozed off for two seconds
[02:40] <thoonai> L3top: i'll ask again tomorrow
[02:40] <thoonai> Im so tired, good night
[02:40] <thoonai> L3top: and thanks
[02:41] <jud> trying to install ubuntu 12.10 on new laptop. At first won't boot from dvd. Run the exe in windows, select "help me boot from cd" option, it says it needs to install boot program which is not normally required. I do that and it gives me the option when restarting then to boot windows or ubuntu from disk. Is it still possible to do the side by side install?
[02:41] <dr_willis> jud:  i imagine it should be.
[02:41] <dr_willis> the installer from booting the cd. does a dual boot install.
[02:42] <jud> dr_willis: know how?
[02:42] <dr_willis> if its doing a normal install and not a wubi install then it is setting up dual booting.
[02:45] <jud> dr_willis: ok but it won't install from the boot menu, it will only boot the dvd and only after the wubi package did something to the computer.
[02:45] <dr_willis> no idea on that. I just boot the dvd and install normally and it sets up grub.
[02:45] <dr_willis> Im not sure what epxeical boot stuff it put on the hd. but the installer should put grub on it.
[02:47] <jud> After booting from the dvd I can install it from there and I can select partitions but I don't know where windows is?
[02:48] <dr_willis> linux will need to be on its own partions. You may need to resize any existing windows partions or delete some if the HD is allready partioned  to use 4 primary partions.
[02:48] <dr_willis> I tend to use a seperate hard drive for linux onmy desktop machines
[02:49] <gustav__> dr_willis: You have a lot of desktop machines? o_o
[02:49] <dr_willis> been slimming the #;s down. ;)
[02:49] <jud> this is a laptop, it shows the 4 partitions, just not sure how to avoid wiping windows
[02:50] <dr_willis> jud:  #1 thing to do first woule be SURE you have a windows backup/restore dvd set made
[02:50] <jud> OK, cheers!
[02:51] <dr_willis> jud:  windows machines often come with 4 primary partions by default - that wont work. You will have to remove one to allow extended/logical partions
[02:52] <Dallywackus> i've got 500mb drives as RAID-0 .. cannot get the system to mount automatically.  Tired setting the "NVIDIA RAID" which shows up but no go, tried mounting both /dev/sda-1 and /dev/sda2 (the two 50MB drive.  Help anyone?
[02:52] <crqd> how do i set the primary monitor? full screen apps chose the wrong monitor
[02:52] <crqd> display settings is unhelpful as usual
[02:52] <almoxarife> jud: my lappy (toshiba) came with two partitions dedicated to win, the one that ran it and the restore partition, dont toss that one either
[02:53] <dr_willis> crqd:  what video chipset?
[02:53] <KBentley57> back again.. any know if the packaged version of fglrx installs both the 64 bit and 32 bit libs on a 64 bit system?
[02:53] <crqd> fglrx-updates radeon 6850
[02:53] <jud> Ok it has 3 ntfs and 1 fat they seem to be arbitrarily named..bugga
[02:53] <dr_willis> crqd:  the ati controlpanel tool for the fglrx drivers may be the place to look then
[02:54] <dr_willis> jud:  ive seen pcs with a windows boot partion, the main windows partion, a restore partion. then a restore-data image partiion
[02:54] <KBentley57> dr_willis, was that towards me or crqd
[02:55] <crqd> doesn't have option to set primary :/
[02:56] <jud> dr_willis: what would the corresponding size ratio be do you think?
[02:57] <jud> I'll figure it out..cheers
[02:57] <Dallywackus> using mountmanager 0.2.6, iI trigger the sdb nvidia raid member and the sdc nvidia raid member both to "automatically mount" but still no auto mount of RAID.
[03:02] <K1rk|Work> /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/conky-logon.desktop
[03:03] <Pr0B0t> can someone help me to fix this problem wit ubuntu   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RngVKlErD0Q
[03:03] <Pr0B0t> with*
[03:03] <K1rk|Work> Hey quick question... In Gnome I used to be able to put my  .desktop files in an autostart folder and they would launch  when the login screen opened.  How do I do this with lightdm  in xubuntu 12.04?
[03:04] <K1rk|Work> Well I'm glad THAT was productive. ^
[03:05] <jrib> K1rk|Work: what autostart folder are you talking about?
[03:05] <dr_willis> the ~/.config/autostart/ thing should work in kde, gnome, unity and xfce as far as i know
[03:05] <michealPW> Pr0B0t: I can't read the screen to see what's going on. Are you having trouble booting an Ubuntu installation, or are you having trouble booting an Ubuntu liveCD ?
[03:05] <dr_willis> pretty sure it works with lxde also
[03:05] <jrib> right, but they won't launch AT the login screen, only AFTER login
[03:05] <dougbb> dr_willis: yes, it works in xubuntu
[03:05] <K1rk|Work> jrib: /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow
[03:06] <K1rk|Work> jrib: not present anymore in xubuntu 12.04, probably because of no gdm
[03:06] <jrib> K1rk|Work: what are you trying to start?
[03:06] <dr_willis> lightdm has similer features. or you can use gdm
[03:06] <dougbb> kirk, just creat it
[03:06] <K1rk|Work> jrib: Conky
[03:06] <K1rk|Work> dougbb: wtf why will that work?
[03:06] <dr_willis> conky on the login screen? ;) how cute.
[03:06] <michealPW> There's a generic autostart
[03:07] <jrib> K1rk|Work: that should be something that launches after login use ~/.config/autostart/
[03:07] <dougbb> kirk, you can also go to settings manager -> system -> session and startup
[03:07] <K1rk|Work> dr_willis: we use it to give status info, like "connected to network" "ready to login" etc so our end users can know what's up if login failes
[03:07] <Pr0B0t> i install ubuntu and when it start after loading it show desktop image menu bar(w/o any menu) and mouse  and then some GPU loading or something like that and  some channel failed 2   channel failed 3...
[03:07] <dr_willis> I had xearth set up once  to start with GDM. ;)
[03:07] <michealPW> Lemme google it, 'cause I can't remember the location. Is it ~/.xsession/autostart ?
[03:07] <K1rk|Work> jrib: it's for login troubleshooting info
[03:07] <jrib> K1rk|Work: what?
[03:07] <michealPW> Oh wait maybe jrib knows :P
[03:07] <dougbb> ~/.config/autostart
[03:07] <K1rk|Work> jrib: We use it to tell our users whether the computer is ready to login, or still waiting on an IP, etc
[03:07] <K1rk|Work> jrib: so it should run @ login screen
[03:07] <K1rk|Work> jrib: we've always been able to do it before
[03:08] <dr_willis> im not sure if the old GDM is still in the repos or not.
[03:08] <jrib> K1rk|Work: so conky draws over the login window?  yeah you could always just use gdm...
[03:08] <K1rk|Work> michealPW: where is the generic autostart?
[03:08] <dr_willis> GDM wont use the generic system auto start dir when it starts up as far as i know.
[03:08] <K1rk|Work> dr_willis: we are using lightdm now, not gdm...
[03:08] <dr_willis>  /etc/xdg/autostart/
[03:08] <K1rk|Work> dr_willis: that only works AFTER login
[03:08] <dr_willis> you can install gdm if you wanted.
[03:09] <K1rk|Work> dr_willis: not particularly...
[03:09] <jrib> K1rk|Work: why?
[03:09] <K1rk|Work> jrib: why what?
[03:09] <dougbb> kirk, you want to run something _before_ the user logs in?
[03:09] <plore> Should lubuntu have a launcher on the desktop by default?
[03:10] <Hwkiller> yes, plore
[03:10] <Hwkiller> to the left
[03:10] <jrib> K1rk|Work: why can't you use gdm?
[03:10] <dr_willis> lubuntu has a panel at the bottom  and a start type button at the bottom left
[03:10] <K1rk|Work> jrib: why would we want to?  lightdm is preinstalled and already works
[03:10] <dr_willis> because you know how to do what you want with gdm ;)
[03:11] <dr_willis> Im sure its doable in lightdm also.. i just dont know what config in /etc/ to mess with
[03:11] <plore> I have that, I was wondering if I could get a launcher similar to what ubuntu has.  Not necessarily looking for something that looks as nice, just a similar concept.
[03:11] <dr_willis> !dock | plore
[03:12] <plore> I can use any of those in lubuntu?
[03:12] <d1b> hi who knows what package gets installed with 12.10 that moves common user /tmp files into /run/user/$username ?
[03:13] <jrib> K1rk|Work: try /usr/share/gnome/autostart/ just a guess.  You might have to dig into source code to be sure...
[03:14] <jrib> actually that's probably not used at all
[03:14] <jrib> (for login anyway)
[03:14] <walterwoj1> Does the desktop version of Ubuntu come with remote terminal access by default or do I need to set it up?
[03:14] <jrib> walterwoj1: set it up/enable it
[03:15] <vVvSHADOWvVv> set it up
[03:15] <gustav__> Ugh. I wanna make a useful utility for Ubuntu. Do you know of any?
[03:15] <jrib> gustav__: to do what?
[03:15] <vVvSHADOWvVv> depends what lsng
[03:15] <vVvSHADOWvVv> lang
[03:16] <gustav__> Any lang really.
[03:16] <gustav__> jrib: Something useful.
[03:16] <jrib> gustav__: that's pretty vague...
[03:16] <dr_willis> Port  tyhe C64 game Wavy Navy to Ubuntu :)
[03:16] <Hwkiller> gustav__: you want to make one? How about a customizable indicator that lets peope define menu options and corresponding commands. the backend (which you write) sets up all the dbus foo
[03:17] <Hwkiller> that would be super handy
[03:17] <gustav__> Hwkiller: In Unity? The left bar thing? That can't be done in any way? I thought it could.
[03:17] <Hwkiller> so basically, an indicator generator
[03:17] <walterwoj1> jrib: Thanks, Is there any remote desktop software for ubuntu?
[03:18] <Hwkiller> gustav__: no, indicators are the things in the upperleft
[03:18] <Hwkiller> er, right*
[03:18] <jrib> !vnc | walterwoj1
[03:18] <Hwkiller> media, messaging, system, etc
[03:18] <jrib> walterwoj1: if you just need a remote shell, use ssh
[03:18] <Ansi__> can anyone help with increasing the partition size in ubuntu 12.04, i have 3 partitions,  one 262 GB on which windows is installed , one 139 GB for general data, and a 80.92 GB as ubuntu file system, i basically want to resize the ubuntu filesystem size and take a few gigs from the general data partition
[03:18] <gustav__> Hwkiller: And get input for that through dbus?
[03:19] <Hwkiller> gustav__: well, everything with indicators is basically dbus
[03:19] <gustav__> dr_willis: I haven't played that. It looks more advanced than I thought.
[03:19] <walterwoj1> jrib: SSH is not available by default though is it (I don't want to have to go out to the garage again tonight to access the server.)
[03:20] <gustav__> Hwkiller: I don't run Unity.
[03:20] <dougbb> Ansi__: gparted can do that, just be sure to back up all your data first :)
[03:20] <jrib> walterwoj1: it's not available by default, no.  Neither is vnc enabled by default
[03:20] <gustav__> (That makes me sound like a very bad person.)
[03:20] <d1b> nm found it, libpam-xdg-support
[03:20] <walterwoj1> dang
[03:21] <Ansi__> is it a GUI or command line
[03:21] <Pelo> evening folks ,  are  selinux or apparmor part of the default install ?
[03:21] <dougbb> Ansi__: gui, you can install it from the software center
[03:22] <gustav__> Pelo: Yep, AppArmor is.
[03:22] <walterwoj1> ok, now topic: what do the permissions on a SAMBA share need to be so it is remotely shared and locally accessable to the running user?
[03:26] <dr_willis> a user can right click on a folder and share it.. then you could see what it setup. ;)
[03:26] <KBentley57> guys, anyone have an amd video card and also run wine?
[03:27] <michealPW> *puts hand up*
[03:27] <KBentley57> michealPW, do you have steam installed
[03:27] <vVvSHADOWvVv> as long as samba is installed
[03:27] <michealPW> Nope
[03:27] <vVvSHADOWvVv> you can share files
[03:28] <michealPW> I run Steam on win7. Should work fine with the latest fglrx drivers (If your card isn't legacy, that is)
[03:28] <michealPW> On linux, I mean ^
[03:29] <Ansi__> dougbb it all speaks of sda4 , 5 etc etc once i edit or merge, will the boot thing get automatically be updated
[03:30] <dougbb> Ansi__: if you change partitions you'll have to update fstab
[03:30] <Ansi__> how to do that?
[03:30] <KBentley57> michealPW, what video card do you have, if you don't mind me asking, and which games.  I'm trying to troubleshoot a l4d2 issue
[03:30] <michealPW> walterwoj1: You might want to go out to the garage and install ssh, though. That way regardless of the problem you run into later on you could also at the last resort ssh into the server and correct the problem ( Without having to go back to the garage :P )
[03:31] <walterwoj1> I installed SAMBA and setup a share at /storage (separate partition) but I cannot work in that folder as my user.
[03:31] <walterwoj1> michealPW: LOL, good idea!
[03:31] <gustav__> Anyone else got an idea that's not Unity related maybe? Something I can do? Create?
[03:31] <Ansi__> dougbb please guide me here.. i have a total of 5sda's being displayed..
[03:31] <dougbb> Ansi__: there are a number of things you need to know if you're going to successfully change partitions on a functioning system ... how important is it to you to make these changes?
[03:32] <michealPW> KBentley57: I have an ATI Radeon HD 6550D and use fglrx v9.0 with PlayOnLinux 4.8. Perhaps that's your mistake? Are you installing Wine directly and running l4d2, or are you using PlayOnLinux to manage Wine for your?
[03:32] <michealPW> I use POL with great success..
[03:33] <dr_willis> The Samba-docs package has several books on using samba that show examples of setting up shares for specific needs
[03:33] <Ansi__> dougbb i need to resize the sda2 and take like 50 gb and add to sda5 which is my ubuntu filesystem, i want to do this as there is no more meory left on the ubuntu partition.. ive deleted loads of stuff but still
[03:33] <KBentley57> michealPW, I'm using wine to have steam installed, and installed l4d2 from steam
[03:33] <dr_willis> walterwoj1:  what filesystem is that partion?
[03:34] <dougbb> Ansi__: Ok, if ALL you are doing is resizing existing partitions, not adding or deleting partitions, then you can just do that with gparted without having to worry about changing anything else
[03:34] <walterwoj1> dr_willis: ext4 I believe.  I have confirmed that it is accessable to my windows machine, just not to my local user on that machine.
[03:35] <Pelo> how do I check if apparmor is running ?
[03:35] <dr_willis> you will need to make use of groups, or set up the user to own the directory, or use some open permissions on it via chmod i imagine
[03:35] <gustav__> Pelo: # apparmor_status
[03:35] <Ansi__> doughbb (Sigh!).. thanks.. but how do i do it in here.. i just want to make sure that i dont do anything wrong.. so if sda2 is the drive i want to reze and give 50 gigs to sda5 , should i be unmounting both or what?
[03:35] <Pelo> gustav__, tanks
[03:36] <dr_willis> Ansi__:  i find it best to use gparted from a live cd.
[03:36] <dougbb> Ansi__: are sda2 and sda5 next to each other on the disk?
[03:36] <Ansi__> dr_willis what difference would that make?
[03:36] <dr_willis> Ansi__:  moving space from a primary to a extended/logical partion may need to be done in steps. Shrink the first. then enlarge the exteended, then extend the logical
[03:36] <Ansi__> dougbb what do u mean next to each other?
[03:36] <dougbb> Ansi__: dr_willis is right, you should make the actual changes from a live cd
[03:37] <dr_willis> Ansi__:  Nothing will be mounted from a live cd hopefully
[03:37] <dr_willis> swap Might get auto mounted dependng on what live cd
[03:37] <michealPW> KBentley57: My advice is to try your luck with POL. The difference is PlayOnLinux has a database of a tonne of games/programs and what version of wine/libraries work best with them..
[03:37] <Ansi__> how do i make a live CD?
[03:37] <dr_willis> the gparted live cd is worth having.
[03:37] <dougbb> Ansi__: I mean just what I said ... are there partitions in between sda2 and sda5?
[03:37] <KBentley57> michealPW, I'll give it a go, it is free right?
[03:38] <Ansi__> dougbb can i show u the screenshot somehow??
[03:38] <Pelo> since upgrading to 12.04 I can no longuer access my share from my xp machine,  or anyother for that matter,   seems to be a problem with permission but i've just spent an hour in #samba and no joy , does anyone have a clue ?
[03:38] <dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit   ;) may show needed info
[03:38] <dougbb> Ansi__: sure, take a screenshot, and post it on line
[03:38] <michealPW> KBentley57: Yea for sure. Checkout this link, here..
[03:38] <Ansi__> dougbb any particular website?
[03:38] <vVvSHADOWvVv> middle click paste stopped woring anoyone ghave that probn
[03:39] <vVvSHADOWvVv> working*
[03:39] <dougbb> Ansi__: do what dr_willis suggested
[03:39] <michealPW> KBentley57: http://www.playonlinux.com
[03:40] <Ansi__> dougbb http://paste.ubuntu.com/1364133/
[03:41] <dougbb> Ansi__: what you want to do won't work
[03:41] <dougbb> the only partition you can give space to sda5 from is sda4
[03:42] <Ansi__> why?? if u see sda3 is an extended part?
[03:43] <Ansi__> dougbb and sda5 is nothing but same as sda3..isnt it?
[03:43] <dougbb> Ansi__: the only way you can do what you want to do is if the partitions are adjacent
[03:44] <dougbb> Ansi__: the only solution to your problem is going to be back up all your data, and then start from scratch
[03:44] <Ansi__> dougbb sir sda5 is actually part of sda3
[03:44] <dougbb> Ansi__: yes, I get that
[03:45] <Ansi__> if i can show u the gpart snapshot then i can explain what i mean
[03:45] <blackshirt> if you knowing about extended partition, that is
[03:45] <dougbb> Ansi__: I know what you want to do, you can't do it
[03:46] <gustav__> What should I use spare CPU cycles for?
[03:46] <brjannc> gparted can move partitions as well; shrink sda2, expand the extended partition, slide sda4 to the left, resize sda5. it will take ages, though
[03:46] <dougbb> gustav__: don't use them for anything, save electricity :)
[03:46] <gustav__> Meh...
[03:47] <gustav__> My computer is a very bad problem solver. It rarely solves a problem at all.
[03:47] <Craksy> Hi, i've tried to install ubuntu 12.10 to my PC but i keep getting the error: "microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin"... Does anyone know how i can solve this?
[03:48] <dougbb> brjannc: that type of work is rather complex, and dangerously prone to error ...  if it works at all, which is not guaranteed .... it would be safer to back up the data and start from scratch
[03:49] <Ansi__> dougbb so how do u suggest i do it???
[03:49] <brjannc> dougbb, if the data is backed up, there's no risk in trying it.
[03:49] <dougbb> Ansi__: back up your data, and reinstall
[03:49] <Ansi__> dougbb sir .. for starters can u let me merge the sda4 into 5.. is that possible??
[03:50] <dougbb> brjannc: since the data being backed up has to be done anyway, re-installing will probably be faster and safer in any case :)
[03:50] <dougbb> Ansi__: you can, but that will change the partition name, so it's likely that you would have to update the OS after you're done
[03:51] <brjannc> dougbb, I personally would do exactly what you're suggesting, but some people are more attached to their current setups than I am :)
[03:51] <Ansi__> dougbb that is if i want to merge , but what if i want to take just a portion of it then???
[03:52] <dougbb> Ansi__: well then you would shrink sda4, and then expand sda5
[03:52] <Ansi__> how do i do that???
[03:52] <dougbb> Ansi__: we're going in circles here
[03:53] <Ansi__> dougbb how do i do that??? also that sda4 has data in it.. (i dont want that data)
[03:53] <Ansi__> dougbb please dont mind.. i am new to linux and ubuntu i need help sorry for bothering u so much
[03:54] <Ansi__> dougbb i dont see expand and shrink options in gparted.. where would i find them.. or what is the procedure to do it?
[03:54] <dougbb> Ansi__: it's no problem, we were all new once ... but I think I've run out of ways to explain it to you, sorry
[03:55] <Ansi__> dougbb so u mean i cannot do it while i am logged in from ubuntu? or it cant be done?
[03:55] <michealPW> gustav__: There's a couple programs for making use of spare CPU cycles.. Ones about aliens which is kinda silly but another is meant to help cancer research, I think it's called "Folder@Home" or something.
[03:55] <edgy> Hi, shouldn't dpkg -l list only installed packages? I tried dpkg -l '*inet*' and I got both
[03:55] <blackshirt> ansi_, do it from live session,
[03:56] <michealPW> gustav__: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/HomePage
[03:56] <dougbb> Ansi__: I think that you would be making a huge mistake by trying to make these changes on your live system. The only recommendation I have for you is to back up your data, and reinstall from scratch. If you insist on making these changes, perhaps someone else can help you.
[03:57] <Craksy> just trying again: i've tried to install ubuntu 12.10 to my PC but i keep getting the error: "microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin"... Does anyone know how i can solve this?
[03:57] <Ansi__> dougbb please can you then help me with identifying what to and how to delete stuff so i can increase space on my ubuntu??
[03:58] <gustav__> michealPW: Trying it.
[03:58] <dougbb> Ansi__: I've heard good things about bleachbit, but I haven't tried it myself yet
[03:58] <Ansi__> dougbb i have already emptied my downloads folder.. but i feel so tied up or scared to touch anyother folder?? are there any temp or unwanted folders that i can let go?
[04:00] <gustav__> It's folding. Yay.
[04:01] <gunarm1> if i'm chrooting to a partition JUST to grub-install, do I still need to mount /dev and /proc etc?
[04:02] <loke> gunarm1: grub-install needs to access the disc devices
[04:02] <michealPW> Cool!
[04:02] <loke> that's /dev
[04:02] <michealPW> Mine's not folding :(
[04:02] <gunarm1> oh right
[04:02] <gunarm1> thanks, i should have thought about it for 2 seconds
[04:02] <gustav__> michealPW: You have to start it. :)
[04:02] <michealPW> I think it's my firewall or router, though. Hrmm lemme see here
[04:02] <michealPW> (rofl) yea I started it
[04:03] <gustav__> I came up with something that might be useful, at least for me: Quality Assurance tools. For the desktop.
[04:03] <Ansi__> dougbb thanks for all your time.. i really appreciate all that :)
[04:03] <dr_willis> sounds like a marketing term. ;)
[04:03] <gustav__> dr_willis: Are you unhappy?
[04:04] <dr_willis> been flooded at work recently with all these silly terms and phrases like that this week,
[04:04] <gustav__> Hmm. I see.
[04:04] <brandon420> how can i make my cd drive open without the button?
[04:05] <dr_willis> the eject command brandon420
[04:06] <gunarm1> brandon420, push a paperclip in that little hole next :)
[04:08] <dr_willis> guess he pushed it in the wrong home
[04:09] <gustav__> Power outlet.
[04:09] <gustav__> He's gonna have a lot of complaints with QA.
[04:10] <dr_willis> 'do not stick paperclips in this hole' stickers
[04:11] <[ent]> there are a bunch of people here laugh
[04:11] <[ent]> more than anyware
[04:11] <[ent]> :/
[04:11] <blackshirt> :d
[04:21] <meowmeowmeow> anyone here using libreoffice ?
[04:21] <meowmeowmeow> why when inserting image the image quaility will become bad
[04:22] <digitalslave> Cause your a cat :-)
[04:23] <dr_willis> rescaleing/resizeing the image i imagine
[04:24] <meowmeowmeow> but i don't think libreoffice should rescale the image
[04:24] <digitalslave> Or the cat thing... Running across the keyboard mashing all the buttons :-)
[04:24] <ehsan> Hello
[04:24] <Abhijit> meowmeowmeow, #libreoffice
[04:25] <ehsan> I want to bring package lists to some offline computer which has exact ubuntu install with the online one. I copy lists from /var/lib/apt/lists but then software center won't open at all
[04:26] <dr_willis> Hmm. cant say ive ever looked at the files in lists.
[04:27] <ehsan> what can I do?
[04:27] <gustav__> This is a tricky question: Where can I get/where is X11 libs for Ocaml?
[04:28] <dr_willis> theres the apt-on-cd thing ehsan  thats often used
[04:28] <dr_willis> !offline
[04:31] <ehsan> dr_willis I'll check that
[04:32] <kaushal> Hi
[04:32] <ehsan> dr_willis, it only has main packages not multiverse and universe
[04:32] <jrib> gustav__: seeing as a -nox version exists, I'd guess the regular "ocaml" package includes them
[04:32] <kaushal> if a specific Ubuntu Release is EOL, does it mean i cannot use it further?
[04:32] <gustav__> jrib: Doesn't.
[04:33] <jrib> gustav__: can you give an example...?
[04:33] <dr_willis> kaushal:  you can use it. but the update servers for it will get moved to some archive-servers and its unsupported by this channel
[04:33] <dr_willis> kaushal:  better to upgrade befor somthing goes EOL
[04:33] <kaushal> dr_willis: ok
[04:34] <kaushal> dr_willis: archive-servers does not get updated?
[04:34] <dr_willis> no more security updated after somnthing goes eol
[04:34] <dr_willis> so no.,
[04:34] <gustav__> jrib: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Window_creation/X11#OCaml
[04:34] <kaushal> ok
[04:34] <kaushal> is there a specific reason to have EOL for a particular Ubuntu Version?
[04:35] <kaushal> for example 18 months
[04:35] <kaushal> not sure i understand that
[04:35] <dr_willis> !eol
[04:35] <gustav__> kaushal: Maybe to make big new changes. But that's pure speculation.
[04:36] <dr_willis> theres really no point in spending manpower  keeping some old rease updated after thers been so many reelases since then
[04:37] <gustav__> But that would be EOS - End-of-Service.
[04:37] <dr_willis> stick to LTS releases if you wantto minimize the hassles of release changes
[04:37] <kaushal> dr_willis: ok
[04:38] <dr_willis> or upgrade/clean install with each new release every 6 mo. ;)
[04:38] <kaushal> dr_willis: i prefer clean install
[04:38] <kaushal> since it would break things
[04:39] <gustav__> I prefer a solid system that never needs updates. But no one cares about my preferences.
[04:39] <kaushal> any specific reason to have quick releases in every six months
[04:39] <dougbb> gustav__: you can have that, just unplug the ethernet cable :)
[04:40] <gustav__> jrib: ocamlfind list doesn't list any x, x11 or xlib. I'm not using -nox.
[04:40] <kaushal> dougbb: :/
[04:40] <gustav__> dougbb: Keep it civil.
[04:40] <dougbb> gustav__: didn't you see the smiley?
[04:40] <jrib> gustav__: I see plenty of x-related files in dpkg -L ocaml; but I'm not familiar enough with ocaml to say for sure what is happening
[04:42] <gustav__> jrib: I don't (12.10.) I do see labltk though, which might do.
[04:43] <meowmeowmeow> so you guys just cant help
[04:44] <meowmeowmeow> surprise libreoffice is not that ppppppppppppppppppopular
[04:44] <JustBelieving> I need some help stopping a Apache2 server.
[04:44] <JustBelieving> I'm getting this error
[04:44] <JustBelieving> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[04:44] <JustBelieving> oops
[04:44] <JustBelieving> not that
[04:44] <FloodBot1> JustBelieving: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:44] <JustBelieving> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[04:44] <jrib> JustBelieving: don't use /etc/init.d/ directly...
[04:45] <JustBelieving> jrib: either way i've tried other way
[04:45] <JustBelieving> same message
[04:45] <jrib> JustBelieving: I know.
[04:45] <JustBelieving> jrib: Okay my bad. Spamming the chat.
[04:45] <jrib> JustBelieving: you can read apache documentation about fqdn
[04:45] <jrib> JustBelieving: I'm just saying that, regardless, you shouldn't use /etc/init.d/ directyl.
[04:46] <Aprel> JustBelieving: did you try `sudo apache2ctl stop`?
[04:46] <JustBelieving> jrib: I understand. What should I use?
[04:46] <dr_willis> ~$ sudo service apache2 stop
[04:46] <JustBelieving> jrib: Yes I have.
[04:46] <jrib> JustBelieving: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP see the troubleshooting section
[04:47] <JustBelieving> aprel: yes i have
[04:50] <Aprel> JustBelieving: if you're really pressed, you can type `ps aux`, look for all apache processes, then `sudo kill -9` each process id number.
[04:50] <trism>  /quit
[04:50] <trism> oops
[04:50] <jrib> Aprel: apache likely stopped anyway, despite the message
[04:52] <JustBelieving> Okay followed it and I just tried stopping it. with graceful-stop
[04:52] <JustBelieving> the message i got:  sudo service apache2 graceful-stop
[04:52] <JustBelieving>  * Stopping web server apache2                                                  httpd (no pid file) not running
[04:52] <JustBelieving>                                                                          [ OK ]
[04:52] <FloodBot1> JustBelieving: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:53] <CrossPacific> I downloaded 7zip and the add-on attached. but after I extracted a rar file, the doc files inside were in messy code. Are there any solutions?
[04:53] <jrib> CrossPacific: what does "in messy code" mean...?
[04:53] <dr_willis> try the rar and rar non free packages. or winrar in wine
[04:53] <CrossPacific> with symbols and unknown characters
[04:54] <CrossPacific> I downloaded both rar and rar non free packages
[04:55] <dougbb> CrossPacific: the original data is probably corrupt then
[04:55] <dr_willis> or some weirdness with how it was made
[04:55] <CrossPacific> but I extracted it in Windows and it worked
[04:55] <dr_willis> try winrar in wine
[04:56] <jrib> CrossPacific: can you open the files you extracted in windows ok?
[04:56] <dr_willis> what kind of file are the docs? txt? Html?
[04:57] <CrossPacific> docx and doc
[04:57] <CrossPacific> yes i can
[04:57] <dr_willis> and what are you using to open them in linux?
[04:57] <CrossPacific> libreoffice
[04:57] <CrossPacific> I can open the files I extracted in windows
[04:58] <dougbb> CrossPacific: can you verify that the checksums on the files opened in windows, and the files opened in linux are the same?
[04:58] <dougbb> It sounds like the formatting has too much excitement for libreoffice
[04:58] <jrib> CrossPacific: can take the the files you extracted in windows, copy them to linux, and do they open ok on linux?
[04:58] <CrossPacific> They are the same
[04:58] <dougbb> .... which isn't hard to do if the author used fancy stuff in windows
[04:58] <jrib> !who | CrossPacific
[04:59] <dougbb> CrossPacific: Ok, then you can't use libreoffice ... you'll have to use ms office in wine, or edit them in windows
[04:59] <CrossPacific> jrib: I can open the files I extracted in Windows and open them with Libreoffice in Linux
[05:00] <CrossPacific> dougbb: The files I extracted from Windows can be open in Linux with libreoffice
[05:00] <jrib> CrossPacific: that's pretty weird.  Do you get different results if you use "unrar e FILE.rar" in a terminal?
[05:00] <dougbb> CrossPacific: then the checksums of the 2 files are not the same
[05:01] <dougbb> CrossPacific: how did you check them?
[05:01] <CrossPacific> dougbb:I opened them separately in two systems.
[05:02] <dougbb> CrossPacific: I asked you if the checksums on the extracted files are the same, did you actually check them?
[05:02] <dougbb> as in, using md5sum (or whatever hash you prefer)
[05:03] <CrossPacific> dougbb: I am sorry I am a beginner in here and I don't understand what is checksums.
[05:03] <dougbb> CrossPacific: then you should have asked rather than saying yes :)
[05:03]  * gustav__ throws the channel into gdb to have a closer look.
[05:03] <dougbb> do you have the files opened from both systems on your linux box?
[05:04] <CrossPacific> dougbb: Yes, I do
[05:04] <dougbb> ok, then run this against each extracted file:  md5sum file
[05:05] <dougbb> change "file" to be the real name of each file
[05:05] <dougbb> then compare the results
[05:05] <dougbb> I suspect that they will be different
[05:06] <CrossPacific> dougbb: Do you mean I should type in md5sum file in the terminal?
[05:06] <dougbb> yes
[05:07] <dr_willis> put the files in some dir.. cd to the dir.. md5sum *    should do it for every file
[05:07] <dr_willis> easier to compare  tht way ;)
[05:08] <dr_willis> id bet its some libreoffice vs Word formating issues.. or font issue
[05:08] <dougbb> dr_willis: good point
[05:08] <dougbb> dr_willis: he said he can open the files extracted in windows with libre
[05:08] <dougbb> so they are getting corrupted on extraction somehow
[05:09] <dr_willis> i thought the doc files had some sort of formating/checksumming so the word processor can tell when they are currupted
[05:10] <dougbb> dr_willis: theoretically, sure ... but ms office has all kinds of proprietary stuff, and who knows if libre can deal with it
[05:13] <dalnet> k
[05:16] <superfake123> is this needed in my fstab: proc            /proc           proc    nodev,noexec,nosuid 0       0
[05:16] <dougbb> superfake123: first rule of system administration, if you don't understand it, don't touch it :)
[05:17] <xoman> how you gonna learn that way? ;-)
[05:17] <IdleOne> superfake123, short answer is yes. maybe someone who understand better can explain why.
[05:17] <superfake123> well I ask because my brand new laptop that I just installed ubuntu on does not have it
[05:17] <superfake123> but my old desktop does have it (12.10)
[05:18] <dougbb> superfake123: on your laptop, do this: mount | grep proc
[05:18] <superfake123> I understand it's something to do with the kernel but that is about it
[05:18] <superfake123> ok 1 sec
[05:19] <DaemonicApathy> superfake123: Unless you have some special setup, proc is not necessary in fstab - it will automatically be loaded with default settings when not listed with specific ones.
[05:20] <superfake123> ahhh ok. yeah I see it when I do the grep proc
[05:20] <dr_willis>  grep proc  /etc/fstab     Nothing here
[05:20] <DaemonicApathy> 12.10 essentially removed it as a default fstab entry as a "bugfix".
[05:20] <dougbb> it's like magic :)
[05:22] <Laptop1> hi all
[05:23] <Laptop1> I need some help downloading ubuntu to a usb any tips?
[05:23] <DaemonicApathy> Use at least a 4GB stick, Laptop1.
[05:23] <Laptop1> ty
[05:23] <dr_willis> you making a live-usb or doing a full install to it?
[05:24] <Laptop1> that is EXACTLY what I needed to know
[05:24] <Laptop1> like you read my mind..lol thanks
[05:24] <DaemonicApathy> ;-)
[05:24] <Laptop1> Dr, either would be nice
[05:24] <DaemonicApathy> I usually use an 8GB stick with 4GB persistence - personal preference there.
[05:24] <Laptop1> k i need a new one anyway
[05:24] <almoxarife> Laptop1: either?
[05:24] <dr_willis> I think you can make an installer usb stick with 2gb. No need for persistance with somthing you are just going to install from
[05:25] <Laptop1> I would like to learn how to do both
[05:25] <dr_willis> a full install to a usb stick would need at least 8gb id say.. for any real work to be done
[05:25] <dr_willis> ive seen 32gb and 64gb sticks for reasonable prices :
[05:25] <simplew> dr_willis: i need that icons cache can be rebuild in package install, can you tell what i need to do in package to achieve that?
[05:25] <DaemonicApathy> 32GB for $19.99 around here.
[05:25] <Laptop1> Does the live usb thing work well?
[05:26] <dougbb> Laptop1: sure, as long as your BIOS supports it
[05:26] <dr_willis> simplew:  cant say ive ever needed to rebuild the icon cache
[05:26] <DaemonicApathy> LiveUSB drives are basically a way to try out or install Ubuntu on a computer that doesn't have it - whichever you prefer.
[05:26] <dr_willis> ran on a 43gb usb stick for ages.
[05:26] <dr_willis> oops a 32 :)
[05:26] <dr_willis> slower then a internal HD. but useable
[05:26] <Laptop1> Sure sounds cool to run my comp entirely on a usb
[05:27] <DaemonicApathy> Laptop1: Keep in mind, USB drives run nowhere near as quickly as most internal hard drives.
[05:27] <dr_willis> there are those USB3 USB sticks out now. ;)
[05:27] <dr_willis> but i havent trried any of those
[05:27] <Laptop1> Ok, is there a way to load Ubuntu without burning a cd?
[05:27] <DaemonicApathy> Fair point.
[05:27] <dr_willis> Put it on a usb stick Laptop1 ...
[05:28] <almoxarife> Laptop1: that would be the live-usb
[05:28] <DaemonicApathy> That's what we've been talking about, Laptop1. :-) There are instructions at ubuntu.com
[05:28] <Laptop1>  thanks
[05:28] <dr_willis> i rarely burn cds these days
[05:28] <Laptop1> i miss ubuntu
[05:28] <DaemonicApathy> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[05:29] <Laptop1> once again, EXACTLY what I searched for earlier D'
[05:30] <Laptop1> faved
[05:30] <DaemonicApathy> Burning CDs makes giving them away easier, booting from old machines easier...that's about it.
[05:32] <Laptop1> Webcamstudio forever seared my in the direction of Ubuntu
[05:32] <Laptop1> *me
[05:32] <Laptop1> That makes it a complete operating sytem, in my opionion
[05:32] <robotdevil> !keepass
[05:33] <DaemonicApathy> Funny, for me it was the terminal.
[05:33] <DaemonicApathy> robotdevil: ...?
[05:33] <robotdevil> can someone do that correctly for me
[05:33] <Laptop1> Chrome, Open Office, Google Voice, Webcamstudio what else would anyone need?
[05:33] <DaemonicApathy> !keypass
[05:33] <robotdevil> !info keepassx
[05:34] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, ok
[05:34] <Laptop1> lol I love the freedom of the terminal too D, Im a 2600 phone guy
[05:34] <Laptop1> and still am, but doing it free with Google Voice lol
[05:35] <superfake123> which partitions can I not remove on a Windows 8 / Ubuntu system? I'd like to remove the windows recovery and samsung system paritions etc and just leave the windows 8 parition and the ubuntu parition? all together I have 9 partitions. I take it the bios_grub partition should be left alone right? any others I should leave?
[05:35] <m1rach4n> usually it they have a label
[05:35] <dr_willis> may be best to ask in #windows superfake123   id be sure to have backup media made first
[05:36] <m1rach4n> blkid
[05:36] <dougbb> superfake123: if you don't already know, leave it alone :)
[05:36] <DaemonicApathy> superfake123: Seconded. If this is a new computer(other than Lenovo), you should make recovery discs asap.
[05:36] <dr_willis> i was thinking windows had some sort of boot partion also.
[05:36] <DaemonicApathy> For windows, that is.
[05:37] <dougbb> dr_willis: they do by default, but it can live without them
[05:37] <superfake123> it's a Samsung ultrabook. honestly I hate windows 8. i just dont wanna mess up grub
[05:37] <AzureX> Commonly lableled as system reserved, although sometimes a basic windows install doesnt use it or leaves it empty
[05:38] <DaemonicApathy> Windows 8 boots a little differently. I'd defer to #windows for that one.
[05:38] <dr_willis> lately when i buy a new laptop. I get a new HD for it also so i can swap out the original. :) and keep it safe
[05:38] <superfake123> there are 3 partitions labeled 'recovery' seems a bit excessive
[05:38] <DaemonicApathy> superfake123: That's why you make discs.
[05:38] <dr_willis> ultrabook even have optical drives to make disks with
[05:39] <dr_willis> >
[05:39] <dougbb> well, I should say win7 can live without its separate boot partition, I haven't been afflicted with win 8 yet :)
[05:39] <DaemonicApathy> dr_willis: most support usb drives, if no external drive is available.
[05:39] <superfake123> I have a windows iso on my computer it would take 30 seconds to copy it to a usb i'm not worried about that really
[05:39] <DaemonicApathy> Which one?
[05:40] <superfake123> both windows 7 and 8 actually
[05:40] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, perfect. Cary on. ;-p
[05:40] <DaemonicApathy> *carry
[05:40] <dr_willis> ive 'restored' windows on some desktop machines from windows "standard" disks/iso and then reaize the silly things had special driver/software/tools i couldent rack down. ;)
[05:41] <DaemonicApathy> I almost forgot drivers could be a problem...
[05:41] <dr_willis> Still not sure why so many  wifi cards need special guis/config tools on windows
[05:41] <dr_willis> when on linux the same drivers work for a dozen cards. :)
[05:41] <dougbb> because vendors are lazy
[05:41] <DaemonicApathy> Propriety is an amazing thing.
[05:42] <m1rach4n> vendors are too lazy to be lazy...
[05:43] <DaemonicApathy> Knowing very little about driver specifics, I would hazard a guess that Windows drivers deal more with specific hardware, and linux drivers deal more with the actual interfaces.
[05:44] <dougbb> DaemonicApathy: that's not quite it ... if you know that 99% of your market is windows, you can just write drivers that you know will be installed on windows, and not care quite so much about things like standards, ABIs, etc.
[05:45] <dougbb> ... you also don't care if pieces of hardware that claim to be the same are actually different, because you know how to detect those conditions, and your driver installer is written accordingly
[05:45] <DaemonicApathy> Fair enough, dougbb. I tend to forget about the social vs technical aspects.
[05:47] <dougbb> believe it or not, it actually has gotten a bit better in the last 5-10 years
[05:47] <dougbb> linux has a real foothold in the enterprise market now, and companies are demanding that hardware be supportable in linux
[05:47] <DaemonicApathy> That much I do know. Drivers used to be a lot more hassle on Linux. The fact that some of us can forget that occasionally is a testament to the improvement.
[05:47] <WeThePeople> lol
[05:48] <dougbb> .... not to mention companies like nvidia that actively reach out to the FOSS crowd
[05:48] <DaemonicApathy> And Intel, of course. USB 3.0 worked on Linux first. ;-)
[05:48] <DaemonicApathy> Specifically Ubuntu, iirc.
[05:48] <hatori> what is the best support for graphic cards come from ? Nvidia? Ati? Intel ?
[05:49] <simplew> anyone with packaging knowledge?
[05:49] <dr_willis>  would say intel. but even they have some issues  from time to time
[05:49] <dr_willis> then nvidia. then  all thats left is ATI. :) and if it says S3... run away..
[05:50] <dr_willis> Does matrox even exist any more?
[05:50] <hatori> dr_willis, its mean, intel graphics would play nice in linux ?
[05:50] <DaemonicApathy> simplew: what kind of knowledge are you looking for?
[05:50] <dougbb> hatori: on average, nvidia for higher performance cards, intel for basic ones
[05:50] <dr_willis> hatori:  they SHOULD play nice..
[05:50] <hatori> greats ....
[05:50] <dougbb> ... just don't get a lenovo laptop with the stupid hybrid graphics
[05:50] <dr_willis> Intel has some issues and mistakes over the last few years withs ome of their graphics..
[05:50] <dr_willis> the whole Hybrid gfx is a Huge problem right now
[05:51] <Tex_Nick> lol dr_willis ... linus torvalds gave nvidia the finger and ati will plrlly be next
[05:51] <hatori> dr_willis, especially with intel poulsbo series ?
[05:51]  * dougbb afflicted with hybrid .... bumblebee helps
[05:51] <m1rach4n> old ati cards are still doing badly
[05:51] <dougbb> but interestingly enough, the intel card is good enough to run compiz
[05:52] <dr_willis> I imagine it will be a while befor i invest in a new laptop.
[05:52] <dr_willis> just to many changes happening in that area right now. ;)
[05:52] <dougbb> my biggest problem atm is that I can't do presentations while booted into linux because bumblebee doesn't know how to activate the external monitor jack :-/
[05:52] <hatori> aha, ping__ was here :d
[05:52] <simplew> DaemonicApathy: i need to get icons cache rebuild in package isntall, i know i need to have a debian/post script, buw what i put there?
[05:52] <dr_willis> well good night all...
[05:53] <m1rach4n> dougbb: `man xrandr`
[05:53] <hatori> aha, ping__ was here :d
[05:54] <DaemonicApathy> simplew: Ah, I forgot that was you. Have you tried asking in #ubuntu-devel ?
[05:54] <simplew> DaemonicApathy: forgot what?
[05:54] <DaemonicApathy> That you had asked that question earlier.
[05:54] <dougbb> m1rach4n: I tried that once and it crashed and burned, but I was under pressure at the time, so trying it again in a more leisurely environment is a good idea ... thanks for the reminder
[06:02] <CrossPacific> dougbb: ab7a21b38ce87536247306addf6d9439  02Ugrad写作材料信息表.doc
[06:02] <CrossPacific> 1a700562afbb66bc98fbf5e7fe307811  ESSAY TOPICS.doc
[06:02] <CrossPacific> 5cea337c923b3d45eaa1aa3dbfeb4a13  Test Essays.docx
[06:02] <CrossPacific> c619b90d94895155446b8f878bff5378  主要写作材料.docx
[06:02] <CrossPacific> those are extracted from Windows
[06:03] <CrossPacific> dougbb:02Ugradд��������Ϣ��.doc
[06:03] <CrossPacific> 1a700562afbb66bc98fbf5e7fe307811  ESSAY TOPICS.doc
[06:03] <CrossPacific> c619b90d94895155446b8f878bff5378  ��Ҫд������.docx
[06:03] <CrossPacific> those are extracted in Linux
[06:04] <DaemonicApathy> CrossPacific: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[06:04] <dougbb> CrossPacific: I don't need to see them
[06:05] <CrossPacific> oh
[06:05] <dougbb> do what dr_wills suggested and do 'md5sum *' in each directory
[06:05] <dougbb> you can compare them yourself, they should be identical
[06:05] <dougbb> I suspect that they will not be
[06:10] <Mayazcherquoi> How can I use aptitude to download a package from a specific repository, only?
[06:14] <aaas> im running jackd...it runs fine, but as soon as I put it to sleep and wake it up it doesn't start anymore..getting alsa errors (alsamixer runs fine)....is there a way to restart the sound system completely?  alsa force-reload doesn't seem to help
[06:15] <dougbb> aaas: does 'sudo service jack restart' help?
[06:16] <dougbb> (it might be jackd instead of jack, btw)
[06:16] <aaas> dougbb jack isn't a init service... killing and restarting jack doesn't help, but the strange thing is that i close down jack before and after sleep so I don't think it's necessarily jack related... something happens with alsa or pulseaudio..not sure
[06:16] <dougbb> ah
[06:17] <dougbb> don't use jack, so I was just guessing
[06:26] <ix_> is there a way to delete personal data from chrome at its close? I see that click and clean is not available for Linux
[06:27] <Kardos> always browse in ingcognito mode?
[06:28] <ix_> Kardos, I know that's an idea, but I'd rather not
[06:28] <Kroach> Can swap be on an SSD? Or is it harmful/not recommended?
[06:28] <Kardos> well there should be a .folder in your ~ that you can erase
[06:28] <hawkeey> I seem to have lost sound. How do I diagnose this?
[06:30] <ix_> Kardos, I want to use extensions, so erasing them is not practical, I see that incognito disables the extensions
[06:30] <Kardos> selectively delete stuff in the .folder?
[06:30]  * Kardos not really a chrome expert
[06:30] <hawkeey> Was there a recent update that would have affected pulse audio?
[06:31] <ix_> Kardos, that could work, I've done that with luakit, I made a script to delete history and cookies every time I open it
[06:32] <Kardos> sounds like you got that covered ;)
[06:35] <DBoyz> Hi. I am getting this at the end of sudo apt-get update. How do I fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1364314/
[06:36] <mofium> You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[06:36] <mofium> oh
[06:36] <DBoyz> mofium: done that twice
[06:36] <mofium> this is a vicous cycle
[06:36] <DBoyz> what does that mean?
[06:36] <ix_> DBoyz, you have the chrome sources two times
[06:37] <WeThePeople> dboyz, sudo find / -iname '*sources.list*'
[06:37] <ix_> DBoyz, you can either delete the chrome repo from sources.list or from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[06:38] <DBoyz> How do I do that?
[06:38] <DBoyz> WeThePeople: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1364318/
[06:39] <DBoyz> ix_: how do I do that?
[06:39] <ix_> DBoyz, can you run the following command in the terminal and paste the output? /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ && ls
[06:40] <ix_> DBoyz, cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ && ls
[06:42] <DBoyz> ix_: google-chrome.list  google.list  hdapsd.list
[06:42] <ix_> DBoyz, sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list && sudo apt-get update
[06:46] <DBoyz> ix_: is that all?
[06:46] <ix_> DBoyz, yep
[06:47] <DBoyz> thank you
[06:47] <ix_> no problem
[06:47] <adrianazzy> que onda
[06:49] <Fandekasp> hi there. Is there anyone here who know how to find font families supporting a special char ? (in my case \u2934)
[06:49] <ix_> DBoyz, can you paste the output of sudo apt-get update? I want to see something
[06:50] <aaas> how can you make pulseaudio stay dead?  /etc/pulse/client.conf autospawn=no doesn't work killall pulseaudio doesn't work pkill doesnt work pulseaudio --kill doesnt work service pulseaudio stop doesnt work
[06:50] <ix_> aaas, you could just uninstall it
[06:51] <aaas> ix_ but then it takes a good portion of my system with it
[06:51] <aaas> ix_ all the deps
[06:52] <coz_> aaas,  how about this    http://askubuntu.com/questions/8425/how-to-temporarily-disable-pulseaudio
[06:52] <aaas> ix_ wait nevermind..it seems like there are much fewer packages
[06:52] <WeThePeople> go to startup applications in system preferences
[06:52] <WeThePeople> and uncheck pulseaudio
[06:52] <hawkeey> Where can I get some help with my sound?
[06:52] <aaas> coz_ so pasuspender isn't doable because i actually am trying to kill it completely for reasons for jack
[06:53] <coz_> aaas,   ah understood
[06:53] <aaas> WeThePeople do you know the command line command for that, im in lubuntu
[06:53] <coz_> hawkeey,  here maybe,, or #pulseaudio or #alsa channels
[06:53] <WeThePeople> hold on
[06:55] <coz_> Fandekasp,   an older post..not sure it might help   http://askubuntu.com/questions/107325/special-symbols-are-not-displayed-on-tty
[06:55] <Fandekasp> thx coz_ will look at it
[06:55] <DBoyz> ix_: hang on
[06:56] <WeThePeople> aaas, no, check  ~/.pulse/daemon.conf  &   /etc/pulse/daemon.conf to disable it>>> sudo gedit /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[06:57] <Rosbuntu> can someone help with xchat here
[06:57] <Rosbuntu> if u guys dont mind
[06:57] <WeThePeople> sudo gedit ~/.pulse/daemon.conf
[06:57] <bazhang> Rosbuntu, ask a question, also #xchat
[06:57] <WeThePeople> rosbuntu, see #xchat
[06:57] <Rosbuntu> bazhang,  i did
[06:57] <Rosbuntu> no one is responding
[06:57] <Rosbuntu> :(
[06:57] <WeThePeople> rosbuntu, whats up
[06:57] <bazhang> Rosbuntu, I see no question
[06:58] <Rosbuntu> WeThePeople,  hey
[06:58] <aaas> WeThePeople yeah I tried those, but i'm just going to try and remove and hope it doesn't break anything...it's so annoying that it's like a zombie that wont die..thanks
[06:58] <DBoyz> ix_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1364342/
[06:58] <bazhang> WeThePeople, gksudo gedit
[06:58] <Rosbuntu> bazhang,  now u see?
[06:58]  * Rosbuntu is a straight GUY
[06:58] <bazhang> Rosbuntu, no. ask it
[06:59] <WeThePeople> bazhang, oops for got the perms..lol
[06:59] <WeThePeople> forgot*
[06:59] <Rosbuntu> bazhang,  u blind !! i already asked it
[06:59] <ix_> DBoyz, it's a bit messy, why do you have oneiric sources?
[07:02] <DBoyz> ix_: no idea
[07:03] <DBoyz> i installed 12.10 on thursday
[07:04] <ix_> DBoyz, cat /etc/apt/sources.list, please paste the output :)
[07:14] <arnold> hello?
[07:14] <Guest78532> uh
[07:14] <Guest78532> ????
[07:15] <DBoyz> ix_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1364356/
[07:21] <DBoyz> i'll be back
[07:21] <ix_> DBoyz, ok, can you sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:21] <ix_> ok
[07:21] <Guest93872> Hello
[07:22] <rinzler> how do I navigate to a mounted disk through terminal?
[07:22] <DarthEaron> i have a question...i cant portforward because im on a military network called czee, but i want to connect remotly to my computer via ssh from my iphone (without setting up port forwarding)...can anyone help me?
[07:22] <ix_> rinzler, well, you have to locate it first, you can with df command
[07:23] <ix_> rinzler, where is it mounted?
[07:24] <Jordan_U> DarthEaron: It's not possible to initiate a connection between two nodes where neither have an externally routed ip address, without some intermediary server that does have an externally routable ip address.
[07:24] <rinzler> ix_: not sure... df doesn't make it show...
[07:24] <ix_> rinzler, then, it is not mounted
[07:24] <rinzler> ix_: then, what's the command to mount it?
[07:24] <rinzler> ix_: and to mount it at boot.
[07:25] <ix_> rinzler, you first have to know what you want to mount, you can find out with sudo fdisk -l
[07:25] <DarthEaron> i can set up a ssh server on my iphone, but can i set up port forwarding to my iphone via its 3G connection?
[07:26] <rinzler> ix_: so I want to mount sdb1
[07:26] <ix_> rinzler, is it a hard drive?
[07:26] <rinzler> ix_: yeah.
[07:26] <ix_> can you paste the output of sudo blkid?
[07:26] <apache-error> can't access my external IP . I'm using apache 2.2 .Please help me
[07:27] <ix_> rinzler, use paste.ubuntu.com
[07:27] <rinzler> ix_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1364370/
[07:28] <Guest93872> ~/ls
[07:28] <ix_> rinzler, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:29] <rinzler> ix_: yep
[07:29] <ix_> rinzler, add to it UUID=af6b404a-87a2-40ef-801d-0fcd9d795dd9 /media/sdb1 ext4 defaults 0 0
[07:30] <ix_> rinzler, after that press enter to leave a new line
[07:30] <rinzler> ix_: ok. rebooting to check...
[07:30] <ix_> rinzler, no
[07:30] <ix_> not yet
[07:30] <rinzler> ix_: k
[07:30] <ix_> rinzler, in the terminal sudo mkdir /media/sdb1
[07:31] <ix_> rinzler, after that you can reboot
[07:32] <rinzler> ix_: success! Thanks!
[07:32] <ix_> rinzler, :)
[07:34] <rinzler> so, when setting up rsync as a cron job to sync to a remote server, should I use -a for the options?
[07:34] <Jordan_U> DarthEaron: If your 3G connection doesn't give you an externally routable ip address, which accepts connections initiated from the outside world, then I doubt there is a way to change that fact (it would be your phone provider's routers which would need to be configured for port forwarding...).
[07:43] <Ihsan_> Is there a helper online, before I ask something?
[07:44] <WeThePeople> ihsan_, whats up
[07:44] <rymate1234> hey
[07:44] <Jordan_U> Ihsan_: There is almost always someone awake in this channel. Next time just start by asking your question, if anyone knows the answer they'll respond (and if nobody doesn then nobody will respond).
[07:45] <rymate1234> I'm trying to use gparted to resize my partitions
[07:45] <rymate1234> I have this error http://pastebin.com/wYu9xYn6
[07:45] <Ihsan_> Well, my system has now a full installation of Ubuntu 12.10 without any other OS. I also have another partition where I store school data. But now, since I cannot game very well on linux, I want to install Windows 8 beside my Ubuntu. I hear that this will destroy my GRUB and what can also be a problem when I do this and HOW can I do this? Thanks
[07:46] <rymate1234> Here's some potentially useful terminal output http://pastebin.com/aucr3VkM
[07:46] <ix_> rymate1234, what are you trying to do?
[07:46] <WeThePeople> rymate1234, this it>>> Can't have overlapping partitions.
[07:46] <rymate1234> Lemme get a screenshot
[07:47] <rymate1234> Trying to expand my /dev/sda4 extended partition into that blank space http://i.imgur.com/juRXY.png
[07:48] <ix_> rymate1234, you can't, just make partitions there
[07:48] <rymate1234> wat
[07:48] <rymate1234> why
[07:49] <WeThePeople> rymate1234, i had this same problem, i just would just backup and redo entire hdd again
[07:49] <rymate1234> My eventual goal is to resize /dev/sda6, which is in the extended partition and is my home partition
[07:49] <ix_> rymate1234, you could delete sda5 and make it bigger
[07:49] <Guest10449> Is it be good to extend the root partiton (/)  of ubuntu ?
[07:49] <rymate1234> I can't delete /dev/sda5
[07:49] <rymate1234> That's my root partition
[07:50] <ix_> rymate1234, :) well, dude, you've made your partitions pretty badly
[07:50] <rymate1234> y
[07:50] <punkmexic> who lives in canada?
[07:51] <ix_> rymate1234, well, I always have 3 partitions, one for Linux, one for all my data and one for installing another OS in case of need
[07:51] <rymate1234> so my hard disk has too many partitions?
[07:51] <ix_> rymate1234, I don't think that is a problem
[07:51] <barberan> ix_, I'd better have a separate HDD for another OS
[07:52] <rymate1234> I thought having seperate partitions for my root and my home would be safer in case I broke ubuntu and needed to reinstall
[07:52] <ix_> barberan, on a laptop it's more difficult to carry around a hdd
[07:52] <rymate1234> ^
[07:52] <barberan> ix_, I see, ok
[07:53] <m1rach4n> backup and redo your partition >_*
[07:53] <WeThePeople> yrp^^
[07:54] <ix_> rymate1234, if I were you, I'd delete everything after sda3 and make 2 partitions, one for ubuntu, one for data
[07:54] <rymate1234> fuck
[07:54] <rymate1234> D:
[07:54] <Guest10449> rymate1234: Hey ! Don
[07:55] <rymate1234> sorry :(
[07:55] <Guest10449> rymate1234: Hey ! Don't use this Type Of languagehere
[07:55] <rymate1234> So where to shove my ubuntu partition data then?
[07:55] <ix_> rymate1234, you seem to have some space on sda3
[07:55] <rymate1234> ohyes
[07:55] <rymate1234> I'll move it there then
[07:56] <rymate1234> lemme just get off this live cd
[07:56] <ix_> rymate1234, you know you could use one partition for data from linux and windows
[07:56] <ix_> but it's too late now
[07:57] <huhlig-home> is there anyway to force reinstall python3?
[07:57] <huhlig-home> and its dependancies
[07:57] <m1rach4n> ix_: and you will create a endless permission trap...
[07:57] <rymate1234> ix_: can't compile android on ntfs
[07:57] <WeThePeople> huhlig-home, --reinstall --fix-missing
[07:57] <huhlig-home> I did an apt-get update and I now get the dreadded Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding
[07:57] <rymate1234> ;)
[07:58] <ix_> rymate1234, windows can see ext3, with a program, ext2fs I think it's called
[07:59] <Guest10449> Which is better to use aptitude or apt-get ?
[07:59] <huhlig-home> WeThePeople, http://pastebin.com/TCe5yM9Q
[07:59] <WeThePeople> apt-get
[07:59] <rymate1234> ix_, tried that before
[07:59] <rymate1234> wasn't very good
[08:00] <ix_> Guest10449, both do the job, use whatever you like
[08:00] <Guest10449>  ix_ Speed Matters in Any One ?
[08:01] <huhlig-home> WeThePeople, any idea?
[08:01] <ix_> Guest10449, I prefer apt-get, but I think aptitude has more features
[08:01] <m1rach4n> apt-get for better log
[08:01] <WeThePeople> huhlig-home, hold on
[08:01] <Guest10449> I most of time  use apt-get
[08:02] <DANYAL> Ubuntu Natty Is Better Or Lts?
[08:02] <m1rach4n> aptitude moo
[08:02] <m1rach4n> There are no Easter Eggs in this program.
[08:03] <WeThePeople> huhlig-home, what are you trying to do?
[08:03] <ix_> DANYAL, I think natty is end of life
[08:03] <m1rach4n> that's the reason
[08:03] <barberan> Using 12.04 on VBox, I can't make my mouse-wheel work... It's not very comfortable. How do I make it work?
[08:03] <huhlig-home> WeThePeople, umm... just install a package
[08:03] <huhlig-home> the python3-distupgrade thing broke and I cant seem to get it back to cleanly install
[08:04] <WeThePeople> huhlig-home, what one??
[08:04] <huhlig-home> plus python3 seems borked now
[08:04] <huhlig-home> WeThePeople, I was trying to install the new nvidia driver
[08:04] <huhlig-home> but this hosed python3
[08:04] <huhlig-home> which means no apt-add-repository
[08:05] <ix_> huhlig-home, does sudo apt-get update give errors?
[08:05] <hadAch> Hi @all
[08:05] <WeThePeople> ih
[08:06] <DrManhattan> so it turns out my WOL issues were due to some sort of bad WOL setup in tomato
[08:06] <huhlig-home> ix_, see abover
[08:06] <huhlig-home> ix_, http://pastebin.com/TCe5yM9Q
[08:07] <DrManhattan> strangely it would only wake up computers with r8169 and the proprietary driver, the r8101e and the such simply wouldn't wake up with whatever tomato was broadcasting as a magic packet
[08:07] <hadAch> Can someone help me, with using another driver because i think "Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Logitech USB Receiver'" is causing my system to partly freeze
[08:07] <hitori> set irc_conf_mode 1
[08:07] <ix_> huhlig-home, you can use synaptic to fix your problems
[08:07] <hitori> sorry
[08:07] <DrManhattan> so I switched over to dd-wrt, and it works great except no functional ddns, but I can run no-ip's client on my answering machine
[08:07] <huhlig-home> ix_, ok?
[08:08] <huhlig-home> ix_,
[08:08] <huhlig-home> root@US154602:/var/cache/apt/archives# synaptic
[08:08] <huhlig-home> Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding
[08:08] <huhlig-home> EOFError: EOF read where not expected
[08:08] <huhlig-home> Aborted (core dumped)
[08:08] <FloodBot1> huhlig-home: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:08] <DrManhattan> so hooray for me and I'm back on ubuntu, and thank you all for your help and patience
[08:08] <WeThePeople> huhlig-home, idk >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1020229
[08:08] <ix_> huhlig-home, so when you try to open synaptic, it gives an error?
[08:08] <rymate1234> is there a way I can backup all my installed packages so when I reinstall ubuntu I can easily restore them?
[08:09] <huhlig-home> ix_, yep
[08:09] <huhlig-home> WeThePeople, so how do I fix it?
[08:10] <puppy_parade> I can't play 1440p video without rebooting
[08:10] <puppy_parade> -_-
[08:10] <hadAch> How can i use anonther input driver than evdev for my keyboard under xorg
[08:10] <puppy_parade> or 1080p at 1440
[08:10] <hadAch> ?
[08:10] <rymate1234> 1440p?
[08:10] <puppy_parade> 2560x1440
[08:10] <ix_> :))
[08:10] <puppy_parade> maximizing windows always lags onit
[08:11] <rymate1234> damn you and your good monitor
[08:11] <puppy_parade> and after a while I need to reboot to be able to maximize video on it
[08:11] <rymate1234> puppy_parade, do you have the additional driverss?
[08:11] <m1rach4n> rymate1234: install when you need it
[08:11] <rymate1234> m1rach4n, ok
[08:11] <puppy_parade> yes, rymate1234 the ATI ones
[08:11] <ix_> rymate1234, so, if you delete everything after sda3, you should make one big extended partition there in which you can put whatever partitions you want
[08:11] <rymate1234> ix_, will do
[08:11] <WeThePeople> huhlig-home, http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=python3-distupgrade&oq=python3-distupgrade&gs_l=hp.3..0.1547.1547.0.2365.1.1.0.0.0.0.85.85.1.1.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.2.Z6R-fuGROlA&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=3682caa795960993&bpcl=38625945&biw=1214&bih=679
[08:11] <puppy_parade> I ditched the 1204 ones a while ago for the newer ones, and the performance was noticibly better
[08:12] <rymate1234> Just deleting stuff in my windows directory to make room for /home
[08:12] <oddlaw> installing ubuntu ontop of windows... do they share a swap partition?
[08:12] <puppy_parade> windows uses a swap file, not a partition
[08:13] <puppy_parade> and you don't _need_ a swap partition
[08:13] <puppy_parade> unless you want to hibernate
[08:13] <ix_> I never understood why people put their data in /home, I always have a separate partition for all my data, /home seems too messy, with all the configuration files
[08:13] <rymate1234> I don't find the configuration files messy
[08:14] <WeThePeople> thats why theres is ctrl h
[08:14] <m1rach4n> i =+ unless you want to do audio/video editing
[08:14] <puppy_parade> blargh, why is my machine grinding to a halt on video
[08:14] <ix_> it is messy if you see everything
[08:14] <oddlaw> puppy_parade: cool, thanks for the intel brother
[08:15] <rymate1234> kspace freedd
[08:16] <rymate1234> copying -.-
[08:21] <rymate1234> well
[08:21] <rymate1234> this is "only" going to take two hours
[08:21] <huhlig-home> WeThePeople, thast bug was supposedly fixed months ago... this was a fresh install of 12.10
[08:29] <barberan> Using 12.04 on VBox, I can't make my mouse-wheel work... It's not very comfortable. How do I make it work?
[08:29] <WeThePeople> barberan, see #vbox
[08:32] <barberan> Thank you!
[08:35] <huhlig-home> WeThePeople, any idea how I can actually fix short of a reinstall?
[08:35] <joshua342532453> hey guys new to irc
[08:35] <WeThePeople> whats up
[08:36] <joshua342532453> whats the issue that you need to reinstall
[08:36] <huhlig-home> joshua342532453, bad package borked python3
[08:36] <WeThePeople> huhlig-home, not at the moment
[08:36] <huhlig-home> cant seem to fix it
[08:36] <joshua342532453> did you remove and reinstall
[08:37] <joshua342532453> just python3
[08:37] <huhlig-home> joshua342532453, umm
[08:37] <huhlig-home> no
[08:37] <huhlig-home> that means I have to uninstall about 60 package
[08:37] <huhlig-home> packages
[08:37] <joshua342532453> use the package manger to get the one you need
[08:37] <huhlig-home> and its a nasty list
[08:37] <huhlig-home> joshua342532453, ...
[08:37] <huhlig-home> what do you mean
[08:38] <huhlig-home> removing python3.2 causes a cascade of package removals
[08:38] <joshua342532453> synaptic package manger
[08:38] <huhlig-home> it wont run
[08:38] <huhlig-home> its based on python
[08:39] <joshua342532453> an apt-get install shouldnt take very long
[08:39] <huhlig-home> umm
[08:39] <huhlig-home> you dont seem to understand
[08:40] <joshua342532453> sorry guess not
[08:40] <huhlig-home> joshua342532453, , http://pastebin.com/TCe5yM9Q
[08:42] <mymindscrewed> !ot
[08:43] <WeThePeople> huhlig-home, do you have the .deb file handy?
[08:43] <huhlig-home> WeThePeople, yep
[08:43] <huhlig-home> for python3-distupgrade
[08:43] <WeThePeople> yes
[08:43] <huhlig-home> yep, I do
[08:44] <WeThePeople> ok, type in terminal dpkg -i <name of .deb>
[08:44] <WeThePeople> sudo first
[08:44] <WeThePeople> paste output
[08:44] <WeThePeople> huhlig-home^^
[08:45] <huhlig-home> ok
[08:46] <huhlig-home> WeThePeople, http://pastebin.com/QgyRRfZN
[08:46] <ix_> huhlig-home, synaptic is basically a front end for aptitude
[08:47] <WeThePeople> huhlig-home, did you cd into this dir /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:47] <ix_> huhlig-home, you can try sudo aptitude remove python3
[08:47] <huhlig-home> WeThePeople, yes
[08:48] <WeThePeople> huhlig-home, do a cd ~ then do dpkg -i
[08:48] <ix_> huhlig-home, you can also try sudo aptitude -f
[08:49] <sudhin> how to install offline codecs???
[08:50] <huhlig-home> http://pastebin.com/x0tyKdKW
[08:50] <ix_> sudhin, vlc has most codecs, I think
[08:50] <WeThePeople> sudhin, codecs for video?
[08:50] <sudhin> yes..
[08:50] <ix_> huhlig-home, strange, is aptitude also dependent on python?
[08:51] <ix_> I didn't know that
[08:51] <huhlig-home> ix_, apparently
[08:52] <ix_> huhlig-home, no, it's not, I've just checked
[08:52] <huhlig-home> is that the ubuntu you dont have it installed script
[08:52] <llutz>  apt-rdepends aptitude|grep python   -> none
[08:53] <syj> ?
[08:53] <huhlig-home> umm... aptitude doesnt exist anymore
[08:53] <ix_> huhlig-home, can you paste the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:53] <huhlig-home> sure
[08:54] <youandwhatarmy> trying to run add-apt-repository, it won't let me, so i google and run sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[08:54] <huhlig-home> there is aptitude-curses
[08:54] <youandwhatarmy> unfortunately, even after sudo apt-get update and a reboot, it wont work
[08:54] <youandwhatarmy> by it i mean add-apt-repository
[08:54] <pawel_138> hi, will we get the newest nvidia driver via ubuntu software center?
[08:55] <huhlig-home> ix_, http://pastebin.com/t2gtDszB
[08:55] <ix_> youandwhatarmy, you could just put the repository in /etc/apt/sources.list manually
[08:55] <puppy_parade> do I need to upgrade to 12.10 to get ATI open source drivers that are usable?
[08:55] <bekks> pawel_138: No. You will get the latest stable driver from the Ubuntu repos.
[08:55] <puppy_parade> because on 12.04...
[08:56] <pawel_138> bekks: thanks for the info
[08:56] <ix_> huhlig-home, your repositories look fine, how did you get the python3 problem?
[08:56] <huhlig-home> ix apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[08:56] <huhlig-home> it tried to install python3-distupgrade
[08:57] <huhlig-home> and it failed horribly
[08:57] <ix_> huhlig-home, and if you try to remove it with apt-get remove python3, it wants to remove lots of packages, right?
[08:57] <gnok> hello! could someone tell me which package in 12.04 provides "Config::Crontab 1.33" for perl?
[08:58] <huhlig-home> ix_, oh yeah http://pastebin.com/sUit7M0m
[08:58] <gnok> i tried libschedule-cron-perl-that wasn't it.
[08:59] <ix_> huhlig-home, you could try to install another version of python
[08:59] <ix_> huhlig-home, apt-get install python
[08:59] <huhlig-home> ix_, python is newest
[09:00] <ix_> :)
[09:00] <huhlig-home> and then iut tries to finish the install for python3-distupgrade
[09:00] <DBoyz> back
[09:00] <huhlig-home> and bombs
[09:00] <DBoyz> ix_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1364356/
[09:00] <ix_> huhlig-home, apt-get remove python-distupgrade
[09:00] <ix_> huhlig-home, apt-get remove python3-distupgrade
[09:01] <huhlig-home> ix_, tried that http://pastebin.com/RcWqr4pH
[09:01] <huhlig-home> a while ago
[09:01] <huhlig-home> it didnt like it
[09:02] <huhlig-home> been trying to fix this and googling for a couple hours prior to pulling my hair out and coming here
[09:02] <ix_> huhlig-home, :)
[09:02] <DBoyz> i seem to have Ubuntu 11.10 in here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1364356/
[09:03] <DBoyz> can't recall where i got it from
[09:03] <ix_> huhlig-home, if aptitude would work, you could force the other version
[09:03] <huhlig-home> aptitude is installed
[09:03] <DBoyz> i seem to have Ubuntu 11.10 in here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1364356/ ( cat /etc/apt/sources.list )
[09:03] <huhlig-home> aptitude doesnt exist anymore for some reason
[09:04] <ix_> DBoyz, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and delete everything there and paste from here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1364464/
[09:04] <huhlig-home> ix_, no more aptitude executable http://pastebin.com/Se7gp3H5
[09:04] <ix_> DBoyz, then, sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list && sudo apt-get update
[09:05] <rymate1234> gnome-system-monitor.rymate.644655047: Can't copy special file
[09:05] <rymate1234> o.o
[09:05] <ix_> huhlig-home, I think there is a way out of it
[09:06] <huhlig-home> ix_, I am all ears
[09:06] <ix_> huhlig-home, well, I think that if you put the repositories from an older ubuntu release and tell it to install python, it will install the version from that repo
[09:06] <huhlig-home> o.O
[09:07] <ix_> huhlig-home, get my point? :)
[09:07] <huhlig-home> I have a higher version though
[09:07] <gnok> got it using cpan. thanks a lot!
[09:08] <ix_> huhlig-home, did you try apt-get -f install?
[09:09] <huhlig-home> ix_, yep, several times
[09:09] <ix_> huhlig-home, I thought so
[09:09] <DBoyz> ix_: done
[09:10] <ix_> DBoyz, does it work fine?
[09:11] <ix_> DBoyz, when you will want to install stuff from google, you should look at your package manager first, as you already have the repositories there
[09:11] <smbeu> o que é kernel
[09:11] <DBoyz> ix_: where can i find package manager?
[09:12] <DBoyz> also, what is supposed to work fine?
[09:12] <ix_> DBoyz, :) if the last command did not give errors, it's fine
[09:13] <huhlig-home> arrrgh
[09:13] <huhlig-home> I cant remove it
[09:13] <huhlig-home> I cant install it
[09:13] <DBoyz> no errors :)
[09:13] <huhlig-home> I hate zombie packages
[09:13] <FloodBot1> huhlig-home: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:13] <huhlig-home> fsck off floodbot
[09:14] <ix_> huhlig-home, sudo dpkg --remove python3
[09:14] <ix_> :)
[09:14] <DBoyz> now, where can i find package manager?
[09:14] <huhlig-home> ix_, wont let me
[09:15] <ix_> DBoyz, I use synaptic, but Ubuntu has some other package manager
[09:15] <bekks> "it wont let me" means what exactly?
[09:15] <gordonjcp> I thought synaptic was deprecated?
[09:15] <gordonjcp> DBoyz: be oldschool, use apt
[09:15] <ix_> huhlig-home, sudo dpkg -r --force-depends python3
[09:15] <ix_> !package manager
[09:15] <ix_> !synaptic
[09:15] <huhlig-home> ix_, it wont even let me do that
[09:16] <DBoyz> gordonjcp: where do i use apt? terminal?
[09:16] <huhlig-home> ix_, http://pastebin.com/qZ4PbX7t
[09:16] <ix_> huhlig-home, I give up, it does not seem to be a way to remove python3 without all the other things
[09:16] <huhlig-home> apparently it tries to load python3 to remove python3
[09:17] <gordonjcp> DBoyz: yup
[09:17] <DBoyz> but how do i use apt to install chrome?
[09:18] <llutz> huhlig-home: i'd try to find the cause of this "Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding"  unfortunately i don't have any clue about python at all
[09:18] <ix_> DBoyz, sudo apt-get install google-chrome
[09:18] <meaustin> ! dance
[09:19] <huhlig-home> llutz, ive been trying
[09:19] <ix_> huhlig-home, you could try to install them again after they will be removed, but it will take some time
[09:20] <DBoyz> oh right. i already have chrome installed
[09:20] <meaustin> ! purge
[09:20] <ix_> DBoyz, I knew that :P
[09:21] <ix_> DBoyz, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:21] <ix_> DBoyz, maybe you will need synaptic one day, it's a good app
[09:21] <ix_> what's the name of the ubuntu package manager?
[09:22] <huhlig-home> nope
[09:22] <huhlig-home> apparently you cant remove python without having a working python installation
[09:22] <bekks> ix_: The package manager is called dpkg, the frontend mostly used is apt, and one of the graphical frontends is synaptic.
[09:22] <DBoyz> ix_: what about ubuntu software center?
[09:23] <ix_> DBoyz, exactly, ubuntu software center
[09:23] <meaustin> ! aptitude
[09:23] <DBoyz> can i use that too?
[09:23] <bekks> DBoyz: Yes, you can use the software center too.
[09:24] <DBoyz> alright. thank you
[09:24] <DBoyz> now i need help with hdapsd
[09:25] <DBoyz> i can't seem to get it working. google isn't helping either
[09:27] <ix_> DBoyz, what is hdapsd?
[09:27] <meaustin> ! hdapsd
[09:28] <DBoyz> I'm trying to get APS (Active Protection System) to work
[09:28] <joey_> Hey everyone
[09:28] <DBoyz> and google told me that I need hdapsd
[09:28] <meaustin> ! APS
[09:29] <ix_> DBoyz, what do you need aps for?
[09:29] <DBoyz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_hard-drive_protection
[09:29] <joey_> I have a probleme i've installed ubuntu 12.04 a few days ago i'm running it side to side to my windows 7 , everything works great but it does this strange thing you know how on a desktop computer when you turn it on the first 1 minut or so it makes a lot of noises, fans are running ect.. well on ubuntu the fans never stop running? which windows 7 doesnt do
[09:29] <DBoyz> protect my hard drive from impact
[09:29] <joey_> is this normal or should i worry about that?
[09:30] <ix_> joey_, I think it's normal, it seems that ubuntu does not know hot to regulate your fan speed
[09:31] <ix_> joey_, so it's always at max
[09:31] <joey_> yes exactly
[09:31] <joey_> always at max
[09:31] <joey_> so i shouldnt really worry about that ?
[09:31] <ix_> joey_, I don't think so, but you could check the temperature
[09:32] <joey_> and i also have another question , is it possible that ubuntu can get infected by a windows virus?
[09:33] <henry_> msd joey_ i think no
[09:33] <joey_> oh okay
[09:33] <joey_> thats what i thought
[09:33] <Tex_Nick> joey : i have a couple older pc's that do that ... this pc runs the fan at idle as we speak
[09:33] <ix_> joey_, it's very difficult to infect Linux, even if you want to
[09:33] <usr13> joey_: Welcome to linux, no more scandisk, defrag, virus scans .... :)
[09:33] <joey_> haha thanks :p
[09:33] <puppy_parade> my computer just unlocked its screen because of the upgrade to 12.10
[09:34] <henry_> msg joey_ because you can exec windows project in linux
[09:34] <giordano> antonio
[09:34] <puppy_parade> excel in wine works okay, but it's quirky and has no middle mouse button support
[09:35] <henry_> m joey_ on i am sorry   i mean you can not exec a windows programer in linux
[09:35] <ix_> henry_, that's not exactly true, as there is wine
[09:35] <ix_> WINE
[09:35] <ix_> :)
[09:35] <puppy_parade> windows programmers aren't so bad, there is no need to execute them.
[09:36] <henry_>  i know but wine is not perfact
[09:36] <usr13> ~... yes, because there is not much in the way of OpenSource/Linux apps that is lacking
[09:36] <joey_> oh yes but i meant if you download a file from the internet let's say a torrent with music and it has a virus in it that was probably made to infect windows systems could it infect a linux system?
[09:36] <puppy_parade> not unless it is a new type of virus
[09:36] <usr13> joey_: no
[09:36] <joey_> oh okay
[09:36] <Steevca> Hi. When i booted my pc something happened with my theme. Img:  http://www.dodaj.rs/f/3J/om/3p0KMi7e/screenshot-from-2012-11-.png I am using ubuntu 12.10 and Gnome Classic (No Effects).
[09:36] <puppy_parade> it would be a first
[09:36] <savio> !virus| joey_
[09:36] <ix_> joey_, no, it can't infect Linux, but you could infect a friend's windows by mistake
[09:36] <joey_> thats why everyone feels safer on linux systems
[09:36] <henry_> i just warray about flash or javascript
[09:38] <usr13> ix_: Well, only if you forward an email or file that is a virus.  That's not really much of an issue.  Not something that isn't going to happen anyway.
[09:38] <joey_> well linux is great
[09:38] <usr13> joey_: You bet it is.
[09:38] <joey_> runs much faster then my windows
[09:38] <Steevca> Anyone ?
[09:38] <usr13> Steevca: Describe your problem in detail.
[09:39] <savio> !anyone | Steevca
[09:39] <ix_> Steevca, I have an idea, just use XFCE or something
[09:39] <Souravaj> hi what is "set" command used in ubuntu?
[09:39] <ix_> :)
[09:39] <usr13> xfce rocks!
[09:39] <Steevca> Well i just booted my pc,and the theme looks like this. http://www.dodaj.rs/f/3J/om/3p0KMi7e/screenshot-from-2012-11-.png There are white parts that shouldn't be there. And i can't see the text or the icons.
[09:40] <Steevca> And i described my problem litle up,you probably didn't see it.
[09:40] <Souravaj> anyone know?
[09:40] <silindean> stop and start dm again ??
[09:41] <ix_> Steevca, you could just delete the configuration files from /home, but be careful not to delete anything important to you
[09:41] <usr13> Steevca: xfce?
[09:41] <joey_> thank you for your help everyone
[09:41] <Steevca> usr13: Yeah,i have it installed but that is not a solution for this problem.
[09:41] <usr13> joey_: What?
[09:42] <usr13> sorry, joey_, That was for Steevca
[09:42] <Souravaj> what 'set' command do in ubuntu i just execute set in terminal and this gimme a huge output
[09:43] <savio> !set | Souravaj
[09:43] <usr13> Steevca: So, if you click on one of the panels, do you get "Customize Panel"?
[09:43] <savio> Souravaj, see man page for set
[09:44] <Souravaj> savio : there is no manula entry for set
[09:44] <Souravaj> *manual
[09:44] <Jordan_U> Souravaj: help set
[09:44] <Souravaj> nothing work
[09:44] <Jordan_U> Souravaj: Or better, "help set | less". (set is an internal bash command, and thus doesn't have a separate man page).
[09:45] <Souravaj> actually i execute it so i am little afraid tht it doesnt create any problem now or later
[09:46] <savio> Souravaj, no worries it just list current setting
[09:46] <Souravaj> thanx
[09:50] <sram> hi folks
[09:51] <sram> have problems with wired-connection off and on ubuntu on lap
[09:52] <savio> sram, describe your problem in detail. Try to use good/understandable language
[09:54] <usr13> sram: Are you connected to a router on your LAN?  Is Ubuntu using DHCP to configure the IP settings?  Do you have other PCs that are in the DHCP pool but using static IP? etc...
[10:00] <sram> yes DHCP
[10:00] <sram> yes there are other pc's in dhco
[10:01] <sram> ubuntu 12.04
[10:01] <xrlgf> Hello, when i install fglrx drivers unity won't work anymore, il have a radeon hd 6310, how can i get unity and fglrx working ?
[10:07] <Tex_Nick> sram : you might try the process of elimination ... disconnect all other pc's from access point ... plug your laptop straight into the access point  ... see if that works
[10:07] <wlosio> Hello, i've problem with mounting HDD : http://wklej.to/5NGKw
[10:08] <bekks> wlosio: Try "sudo fsck -f /dev/sda2" before mounting it.
[10:09] <evilmoo> if I wanted to rebuild some packages for an older cpu (i586), how would I go about doing it?
[10:10] <usr13> bekks: -y
[10:10] <bekks> usr13: I'd suggest to _never_ use -y until knowing which errors fsck will mock about.
[10:11] <usr13> bekks: I suggest -y (cut to the chase)
[10:11] <wlosio> bekks, http://wklej.to/HwFSr
[10:12] <bekks> wlosio: Before continuing - do you have a valid backup?
[10:13] <wlosio> bekks, i dont backup my hdd
[10:13] <wlosio> bekks, its new hdd
[10:13] <wlosio> bekks, has around month
[10:13] <bekks> wlosio: So losing the data is not that tragically.
[10:13] <wlosio> bekks, im not afraid lost data :D
[10:14] <wlosio> but why my HDD stop work
[10:14] <wlosio> how heck SMART?
[10:14] <wlosio> check*
[10:14] <bekks> wlosio: It did not stop working. Actually it works, you are experiencing file system errors.
[10:14] <mand> Hi
[10:14] <bekks> wlosio: So just continue with that fsck -f
[10:14] <usr13> bekks: sudo fsck -y /dev/sda2
[10:14] <usr13> wlosio: Y
[10:15] <mand> I've added a mount point to /etc/fstab for my external usb hard drive and now the disk appears twice in nautilus
[10:15] <wlosio> ok ok "Y" :0
[10:15] <mand> How can I fix that?
[10:15] <bekks> usr13: you are missing the -f option, which forces fsck to check a filesystem that seems to be clean.
[10:15] <wlosio> Force a re-write <Y>?
[10:15] <bekks> wlosio: Y
[10:15] <usr13> bekks: So, we should use -fy ?
[10:16] <bekks> usr13: No -y, just -f
[10:16] <wlosio> Repeatedly declared clone blocks.<Y>?
[10:16] <bekks> wlosio: Y
[10:17] <usr13> bekks: Oh, ok.
[10:17] <wlosio> Not found /lost+found, Clean? <Y> Y??
[10:17] <bekks> wlosio: Y ...
[10:18] <yeats> if you invoke it with -y, it won't prompt you for each change
[10:18] <wlosio> Okay :P Data: ***** FILE SYSTEM MODIFIED *****. im try mount now
[10:18] <bekks> yeats: which should only be used when knowing which errors will be encountered :)
[10:19] <wlosio> wooohooo!
[10:19] <wlosio> i can mount!
[10:19] <yeats> bekks: true
[10:19] <wlosio> i love you!
[10:19] <bekks> wlosio: Dont tell my wife. ;)
[10:19] <llutz> usr13: read again and try to understand [11:10:34] <bekks> usr13: I'd suggest to _never_ use -y until knowing which errors fsck will mock about.
[10:19] <wlosio> bekks, kk :D. I dont lost my Linux games :D
[10:20] <bekks> wlosio: Even if - you said your data was not worth to be backed up.
[10:20] <usr13> llutz: I understand.  (No need to read again.)
[10:20] <Tex_Nick> bekks : lol
[10:21] <wlosio> bekks, no all data is OK
[10:21] <yeats> usr13: I assume llutz saw my comment and thought it was yours (I didn't read back to bekks' original comment about -y, fwiw)
[10:21] <bekks> Tex_Nick: Data not backuped is data not worth keeping. Sounds sarcastic, but thats reality.
[10:21] <llutz> usr13: sry yes, yeats i meant
[10:22] <usr13> llutz: NP
[10:22] <Tex_Nick> bekks : i was lol'ing bout ( don't tell my wife )
[10:23] <bekks> Tex_Nick: :)
[10:24] <Tex_Nick> bekks : this channel does love ya & all others for the help ;-)
[10:25] <zone> hai i just try to use usb camera i had execute mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0,it just opened a window and blank,nothing happen
[10:25] <zone> what is the issue?
[10:26] <llutz> zone: ls -l /dev/video0
[10:26] <evilmoo> if I wanted to rebuild some packages for an older cpu (i586), how would I go about doing it?
[10:27] <Jordan_U> evilmoo: What is your end goal?
[10:28] <usr13> evilmoo: Is there a particular reason to not just do it on the older PC?
[10:29] <bekks> evilmoo: Download the sources using apt-get source, fix the build instructions, and recompile for i586
[10:29] <zone> llutz   ls -l /dev/video0 it shows crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 0 2012-11-17 21:18  /dev/video0
[10:33] <zone> ls -l /dev/video0 it shows crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 0 2012-11-17 21:18  /dev/video0
[10:33] <evilmoo> jordan: i have an old laptop I'd still like to use ubuntu on but it's not a 686
[10:34] <graingert> anyone know why nvidia does not appear in software sources?
[10:34] <Ben64> !nvidia | graingert
[10:34] <Jordan_U> evilmoo: You're going to need to recompile more than "some" packages for that.
[10:34] <evilmoo> jordan: i know
[10:35] <graingert> Ben64, not helpful
[10:35] <evilmoo> i just want basic stuff like bash/ssh/kernel/glibc and whatever else is needed to support those
[10:35] <evilmoo> i don't plan on rebuilding every package ever, just the base bits i need
[10:35] <graingert> Ben64, all of that is for pre 12.04
[10:35] <spycrab0> Hi , im trying to install ia32-libs , but it doesnt work: It always says that ia32-libs-dev must be reinstalled , but i cant do that , it doesnt work
[10:35] <Jordan_U> evilmoo: You're honestly better off switching to Debian or another distro that defaults to i586 compatible.
[10:36] <Ben64> graingert: those instructions work on all versions
[10:36] <graingert> Ben64, I havn't needed xorg.conf since 3XX driver series
[10:36] <spycrab0> forget to say im using ubuntu 12.04 64-bit (installed via wubi.exe)
[10:36] <brandon420> Where is the best place to get help with routers/ making my computer accessible from the outside of my lan
[10:36] <graingert> Ben64, this hasn't been updated since "10:10" sic
[10:36] <usr13> brandon420: Router manual.
[10:36] <Ben64> graingert: so? the process is still the same
[10:37] <graingert> Ben64, no it's not
[10:37] <zone>  hai i just try to use usb camera i had execute mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0,it just opened a window and blank,nothing happen
[10:37] <graingert> this involved messing with xorg.conf
[10:37] <evilmoo> jordan: fine, with that said, if I still wanted to do it, how would I go about it?
[10:37] <usr13> graingert: If you install Nvidia drivers, you'll use xorg.conf
[10:37] <zone> what is the issue?
[10:37] <Ben64> graingert: read better
[10:37] <graingert> usr13, no you don't
[10:37] <graingert> Ben64, "The easiest way to install binary drivers is to use the built in Hardware Drivers manager in Ubuntu. " <-- doesn't work
[10:37] <usr13> graingert: Yes you do.
[10:38] <Ben64> !work | graingert
[10:38] <graingert> usr13, you havn't needed xorg.conf since 3XX when they added support for xrandr
[10:38] <usr13> graingert: What is 3XX?
[10:38] <graingert> Ben64, it doesn't exist. And the replacement doesn't work as I described earlier
[10:38] <graingert> usr13, the nvidia 3XX series of drivers
[10:38] <brandon420> how can i change the ownership of /var/www/ to my user?
[10:39] <usr13> graingert: Oh, kernel 3.x?
[10:39] <graingert> brandon420, don't
[10:39] <graingert> usr13, NVIDIA
[10:39] <graingert> DRIVER
[10:39] <usr13> graingert: What?
[10:39] <graingert> usr13, EN VID EAR. DRY VER
[10:39] <usr13> graingert: Oh ok.
[10:39] <brandon420> graingert,  Why not? Wouldn't that make it easier to stream stuff from inside my network?
[10:39] <brandon420> hahahhaha
[10:40] <brandon420> lmfao
[10:40] <graingert> brandon420, nope. Just use the public_html pattern
[10:40] <brandon420> That shit cracked me up.
[10:40] <usr13> brandon420: Just use symlinks
[10:41] <graingert> brandon420, usr13, don't use symlinks. Setup your apache config correctly
[10:41] <graingert> brandon420, https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html
[10:41] <brandon420> Sir yes sir!
[10:41] <brandon420> =)
[10:41] <bluntman> all my tty consoles are scrolling up the screen
[10:41] <usr13> brandon420: mkdir ~/public_html ; ln -s ~/public_html /var/www/name-here
[10:41] <graingert> bluntman, move your screens down
[10:42] <spycrab0> I always get this error , when i want to install/remove a package via the ubuntu software center: E:The package ia32-libs-dev needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:42] <graingert> brandon420, seriously don't listen to usr13.
[10:42] <bluntman> reminds me when i had to adjust my antenna on my tv
[10:42] <usr13> brandon420: mkdir ~/public_html ; sudo ln -s ~/public_html /var/www/name-here
[10:42] <usr13> graingert: Are you serious?
[10:43] <graingert> usr13, yes. You have no idea what you are doing.
[10:43] <usr13> graingert: I'm telling him the most logical method.
[10:43] <graingert> usr13, using symlinks all over the place? With sudo?
[10:43] <usr13> and esiest
[10:43] <brandon420> hay guys.
[10:43] <graingert> brandon420, just configure your apache config correctly
[10:43] <usr13> brandon420: That's the best advise, take it or leave it.
[10:43] <brophat> anyone else using chrome browser and yahoo.com has not been rendering properly for past couple days?
[10:44] <graingert> anyone know why nvidia does not appear in software sources?
[10:44] <usr13> brandon420: graingert synlinks are the way to go.
[10:44] <brandon420> I'm not going to just /do/ what either of you tell me. But i am going to take both of your advise and research to find the best solution.
[10:44] <almoxarife> spycrab0: have you tried to install it via terminal?
[10:44] <japro> so out of the blue xorg fails to start with http://ideone.com/WRm0jG
[10:44] <usr13> brandon420: ... use as many as you like.  It is easy.
[10:44] <japro> i hate this since i have no clue what triggered it since i didn't update or install anything in between as far as i can tell
[10:45] <almoxarife> how about taking the #apache advice to #apache, thnks
[10:45] <spycrab0> almoxarife: Yes i tried it , but i failed to
[10:45] <japro> i tried reinstalling xorg and fglrx
[10:45] <usr13> almoxarife: Good idea.
[10:45] <zone> hi i used cheese web cam booth,i opened and it just blank what is the probe?
[10:45] <almoxarife> spycrab0: explain 'failed'
[10:46] <graingert> The nvidia proprietary driver does not appear in software sources. It appears in jockey-text though.
[10:46] <almoxarife> zone: try it with 'vlc' , cheese is a mess
[10:46] <spycrab0> almoxafire: It always tells me i have to reinstall ia32-libs-dev but theres no archive for it
[10:47] <graingert> The nvidia driver has always installed from jockey-gtk on this hardware. Why does software sources not show this?
[10:47] <usr13> graingert: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[10:47] <graingert> usr13, that's not helpful it's out of date.
[10:48] <zone> almoxarife,can you please tell how because i am fresher for linux
[10:48] <spycrab0> i always get this error , when i want to install packages via terminal
[10:49] <graingert> usr13, it says to install from "System->Administration->Hardware Drivers." which no longer exists
[10:49] <graingert> usr13, now what?
[10:49] <usr13> graingert: Who told you that there are no nvidia packages in the repositories any more?
[10:50] <graingert> usr13, nobody
[10:50] <almoxarife> spycrab0: try this in terminal 'sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-dev'
[10:50] <graingert> usr13, who told you that I thought there are no nvidia packages in the repositories any more?
[10:50] <usr13> graingert: what does lspci say about your video card?
[10:51] <graingert> usr13, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTS] (rev a2)
[10:52] <usr13> graingert: Desktop?
[10:53] <graingert> usr13, yes
[10:53] <usr13> graingert: 32bit?
[10:53] <graingert> of course not
[10:53] <graingert> it's 2012
[10:54] <graingert> usr13, http://i.imgur.com/xH9DF.png
[10:54] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[10:55] <almoxarife> !who | Ben64
[10:55] <graingert> Ben64, not my question
[10:55] <Ben64> the only person who's talked in the past 5 minutes
[10:55] <graingert> Ben64, not helpful.
[10:56] <graingert> "anyone know why nvidia does not appear in software sources?"
[10:56] <Ben64> graingert: type that, get drivers, be happy
[10:56] <yeats> !attitude | graingert
[10:56] <graingert> Ben64, I did that it broke my desktop
[10:56] <Ben64> unlikely
[10:56] <Ben64> maybe you have some weird stuff going on with ppas?
[10:56] <graingert> !attitude | Ben64
[10:57] <graingert> Ben64, nope. Fresh install
[10:57] <Ben64> Ok, I'm done with you
[10:57] <graingert> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1364653/
[10:58] <graingert> Ben64, you can't just accuse me of lying.
[10:59] <usr13> graingert: You could get
[10:59] <usr13> graingert: You could get NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.19.run
[10:59] <graingert> usr13, no I don't want that.
[10:59] <usr13> graingert: What do you want?
[11:00] <Ben64> usr13: you shouldn't suggest people to get the driver from nvidia's site
[11:00] <graingert> usr13, I want to install the drivers from software sources like I did during the Alphas
[11:00] <japro> argh, seriously so apparently X/fglrx wants stuff to be in usr/lib64 but everything is in usr/lib
[11:00] <japro> symlinking doesn't fix it it seems
[11:00] <graingert> japro, oh goodness don't do that
[11:00] <usr13> graingert: Then go to Hardware Drivers
[11:00] <graingert> usr13, they don't exist in 12.10
[11:01] <graingert> usr13, http://i.imgur.com/xH9DF.png
[11:01] <graingert> usr13, jockey-gtk doesn't exist
[11:01] <dr_willis> the addational-drivers tool is under a tab in the software-sources tool in 12.10
[11:02] <invariant> Is opening powerpoint presentations a security risk on Ubuntu (using LibreOffice)?
[11:02] <dr_willis> /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk
[11:02] <japro> graingert, right, so i know what not to do but i don't know what to do
[11:02] <graingert> dr_willis,  http://i.imgur.com/xH9DF.png
[11:02] <zeroblu3> hello
[11:02] <japro> i tried reinstalling fglrx and xorg so far
[11:02] <graingert> japro, have you tried installing from software-properties
[11:02] <japro> aticonfig claims i don't have a compatible adapter
[11:03] <graingert> japro, or does it not appear in there for you either?
[11:03] <zeroblu3> can someone please help me....i'm on ubuntu 12.10 and it doesn't detect my hardware raid
[11:03] <japro> yesterday it worked fine and i can't figure out what has changed
[11:03] <invariant> japro, on Ubuntu, you just need to install fglrx-updates and give up the possibility of installing a vanilla version.
[11:03] <yeats> graingert: it's there for me fwiw - this appears to only be affecting your system
[11:03] <japro> so purge fglrx and install fglrx-updates?
[11:04] <invariant> japro, if you don't want such dependence on Ubuntu packages and just run the latest, you should switch to a community distro, like Arch.
[11:04] <graingert> yeats, http://askubuntu.com/questions/215053/why-does-additional-driver-tab-not-have-an-nvidia-driver-to-install/216182#216182
[11:04] <japro> uh i don't have a problem with that, i just want it to work again
[11:04] <graingert> yeats, Jorge also has the issue
[11:04] <japro> i'm puzzled as to what made it fail in the first place
[11:04] <usr13> graingert: sudo software-properties-gtk
[11:04] <rymate1234> ok
[11:05] <rymate1234> partitions redone
[11:05] <invariant> japro, it is possible to get it to work, but Ubuntu switched to multi-arch which complicates things.
[11:05] <rymate1234> time to reinstall
[11:05] <invariant> japro, the fglrx distributions makes some assumptions which are not true in Ubuntu.
[11:05] <graingert> usr13, nope
[11:05] <invariant> japro, you can of course work around this by analyzing the package contents, but that requires some technical skill that you might not have or you might not care about.
[11:05] <graingert> usr13, same as without
[11:06] <invariant> japro, does that help?
[11:06] <japro> so can i install fglrx from the repositories ornot?
[11:06] <invariant> japro, I could.
[11:06] <usr13> graingert: nope, what?
[11:06] <japro> well i guess i know you can since i had it working until yesterday
[11:06] <graingert> usr13, same as without
[11:06] <invariant> japro, and what did you do then?
[11:06] <japro> and now without me even touching apt get or anything as far as i know it didn't work today
[11:06] <invariant> japro, and what version of Ubuntu are your running?
[11:06] <japro> 12.04
[11:06] <Steevca> How do i install Murrine Engine in Xfce4 ?
[11:06] <usr13> graingert: same as without what?
[11:07] <graingert> usr13, sudo
[11:07] <yeats> graingert: I'll rephrase - of the people in the channel right now, it looks like no one else who has the problem knows how to make it work - I would recommend asking later, trying the forums, or filing a bug
[11:08] <invariant> japro, if you read the documentation, you can see trouble shooting steps.
[11:08] <Nibinaear> Hi. I've installed 7zip but it's not available in the main menu.
[11:08] <usr13> graingert: sudo software-properties-gtk click on Additional Drivers tab
[11:08] <dr_willis> NimeshNeema:  7zip package just adds command line tools and features to the default archiver gui tools.. it does NOT have its own GUI
[11:08] <graingert> usr13, It's the same as without running it as root. It's the same symptoms
[11:08] <japro> invariant, documentation found where?
[11:08] <usr13> Click on the Additional Drivers tab in the Software Sources menu.
[11:09] <dr_willis> 12.04 still uses the additional-drivers/jockey-gtk tool i thought. ;)
[11:09] <graingert> usr13,   http://i.imgur.com/xH9DF.png
[11:09] <graingert> dr_willis, I'm on 12.10
[11:09] <vitimiti> o/
[11:09] <graingert> otherwise I'd be in ubuntu-1
[11:10] <rymate1234> graingert, what graphics card?
[11:10] <dr_willis> we have several people with differnt versions in here right now asking about addatitional-drivers
[11:10] <Steevca> How do i install Murrine Engine in Xfce4 ?
[11:10] <graingert> rymate1234,  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTS] (rev a2)
[11:10] <graingert> dr_willis, really I only see me
[11:10] <rymate1234> hmm
[11:10] <rymate1234> odd
[11:10] <brandon420> I keep losing internet on my browser, but yet the irc stays connected...
[11:11] <brandon420> can someone help me?
[11:11] <invariant> japro, in the documentation location.
[11:11] <graingert> brandon420, proxy settings?
[11:11] <invariant> japro, which will lead you to /usr/share/doc/fglrx-updates/index.html
[11:11] <invariant> japro, you should read the manual for the systems that you are using before asking a question.
[11:11] <brandon420> graingert, i dont have any proxys..
[11:11] <graingert> rymate1234, here is the question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/215053/why-does-additional-driver-tab-not-have-an-nvidia-driver-to-install/216182#216182 (not me) here is my bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1080023
[11:11] <Jordan_U> brandon420: It could be that DNS resolution is flakey.
[11:11] <usr13> graingert: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/to-do-list-after-new-installation-of.html?m=1
[11:12] <zeroblu3> can someone please help me? ubuntu won't detect my hardware RAID
[11:12] <graingert> usr13,   http://i.imgur.com/xH9DF.png
[11:12] <graingert> also I don't want to use any ppa
[11:13] <graingert> ubuntu official only please
[11:13] <zone> hi i try to use usb cam i used cheese,it opened a window and nothing done it just blanck,& i used vlc it shows emerge -av adobe-flash
[11:13] <usr13> graingert: Those are your options.
[11:13] <zone> what is the prob
[11:13] <dr_willis> i tend to just install the nvida-current package.
[11:13] <usr13> brandon420: Is this a wired connection?
[11:13] <graingert> usr13, also 12.10 uses the latest drivers with kmod:nvidia_experimental_310
[11:14] <Jordan_U> brandon420: Though IRC can be one of the most resilient protocalls when it comes to dealing with lag, low bandwidth, and dropped packets so that could be the only reason it's staying alive. Try "ping 8.8.8.8" and if you get little or no packet loss, during the time browsing is failing, then you probably just want to change DNS servers (and 8.8.8.8 is a nice easy to remember and reliable DNS server :).
[11:14] <Jordan_U> zeroblu3: Hardware RAID or FakeRAID?
[11:15] <zeroblu3> Jordan_U,  i made it through bios settings
[11:15] <usr13> Jordan_U: You are assuming brandon420's problem is DNS.  Is it?
[11:15] <brandon420> Jordan_U, I get a response from 8.8.8.8. but nothing else works..
[11:15] <usr13> brandon420: ping av.com
[11:16] <brandon420> i pinged google and got nothing
[11:16] <usr13> brandon420: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[11:16] <Jordan_U> usr13: I wasn't assuming anything, that's why I said that it could be almost anything and proposed a test.
[11:16] <brandon420> chrome says that my dns look up failed.
[11:16] <usr13> Jordan_U: Appears your assumption is correct.
[11:16] <Jordan_U> usr13: But DNS failure does seem the most likely culprite.
[11:17] <brandon420> So how do I go among fixing this?
[11:17] <usr13> brandon420: pastebinit /etc/resolv.conf
[11:17] <brandon420> lol
[11:17] <usr13> brandon420: what nameserver are you using?
[11:18] <brandon420> literally nothing else -internet wise- is working besides irc
[11:18] <Jordan_U> brandon420: Open nm-connection-editor and try changing the configured DNS server to 8.8.8.8
[11:18] <usr13> brandon420: Are you using DHCP to connect to your LAN?
[11:19] <brandon420> yes
[11:19] <Jordan_U> brandon420: Note that once you lose this current IRC connection you probably won't be able to connect again, as that will require another DNS lookup.
[11:19] <brandon420> Everything is set to automatic
[11:19] <brandon420> And nothing looks out of the ordinary in my modem router config
[11:20] <chau> sup yo?
[11:20] <dr_willis> jot down the ip# of the freenode servers. ;)
[11:20] <usr13> brandon420: as Jordan_U suggests, you should edit IP configuration via nm-connection-editor
[11:20] <brandon420> fuck
[11:20] <brandon420> i dont wanna lose you guys.
[11:21] <usr13> brandon420: YOu can re-connect.
[11:21] <Jordan_U> !language | brandon420
[11:21] <yeats> brandon420: can you browse to http://173.194.37.69/ (google)
[11:21] <brandon420> yeats, yepp
[11:22] <cyd> hiho
[11:22] <cyd> sup?
[11:22] <usr13> brandon420: Did you set up the router with nameserver(s) suggested by your ISP?  If so, try pinging one of them.
[11:23] <brandon420> usr13, I have comcrap. It is one of the "automatic" isps
[11:23] <sheikhmak> hey guys, for those that use your laptops, with the middle mouse click we can auto paste highlighted text, but on the touch pad, that activates functions to move/resize window.
[11:24] <usr13> brandon420: as Jordan_U suggests, you should edit IP configuration via nm-connection-editor and use 8.8.8.8 as nameserver
[11:24] <yeats> brandon420: you can still hardcode a nameserver
[11:24] <sheikhmak> anyone knows a quick fix for that?
[11:24] <Jordan_U> brandon420: How about http://140.211.167.103/ ? (freenode's webchat, which you can use in case you get disconnected), or you could also configure your client to connect to 193.219.128.49 .
[11:24] <brandon420> Thank you. I can get to the webchat
[11:25] <sheikhmak> nvm i just answered it for myself, top left on the mouse pad does the trick
[11:25] <brandon420> So in the wireless settings >ipv4> additional dns servers?
[11:26] <usr13> brandon420: Yes, just use 8.8.8.8
[11:26] <usr13> only one
[11:27] <agu10^_> hello!
[11:27] <usr13> brandon420: See what your are using now.  (grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf)
[11:27] <agu10^_> how can I move my company from windows servers with active directory, to linux?
[11:27] <brandon420> 127.0.1.1
[11:28] <desu_> Can anyone provide tips on educating a linux-curious individual?
[11:28] <Evil_Eric> weeee
[11:28] <zeroblu3> Jordan_U, can u help me now please?
[11:28] <brandon420> desu_, You came to the right place. People here are more than happy to answer your questions, and help you in anyway possible. No question is a dumb question.
[11:29] <Jordan_U> usr13: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[11:29] <usr13> agu10^_: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-active-directory-server.html
[11:29] <invariant> Is gconftool-2 a deprecated tool?
[11:29] <Tex_Nick>  desu_ : try a live cd or usb to test it out
[11:30] <desu_> I was talking more for like me helping my friend get started on using linux xD
[11:30] <agu10^_> usr13, i mean for linux, windows and mac clients. not just windows clients
[11:30] <invariant> Is there anyone in this channel that still knows something?
[11:30] <sheikhmak> radius agu10^
[11:30] <desu_> I myself, have been using linux for a few years now... xD
[11:31] <iuser> linux uses you, in china
[11:31] <Ben64> !ot | everyone
[11:31] <desu_> ...Shouldn't it be Russia?
[11:31] <usr13> Jordan_U: But I think you can still find out what nameserver you are using with  'grep nameserver /etc/resolv.colnf'
[11:31] <Tex_Nick> desu_ : youTube has some neat videos
[11:31] <sheikhmak> samba 4 implements open ldap??
[11:32] <agu10^_> sheikhmak, how?
[11:32] <desu_> Alright then...
[11:32] <Jordan_U> usr13: No, you can't.
[11:32] <usr13> O
[11:32] <usr13> Why not?
[11:32] <agu10^_> i heard google lets employees use linux, windows or macs. How do they manage the network, share files, but manage permissions, etc? without active directory, what can they be using?
[11:32] <invariant> agu10^_, you either educate yourself, or you pay a consultant to do the move.
[11:32] <Jordan_U> usr13: Have you read the link I sent you?
[11:32] <agu10^_> of course invariant, that's what im asking
[11:32] <usr13> yes
[11:32] <usr13> It says there is a symlink.
[11:33] <invariant> agu10^_, what are you asking?
[11:33] <nowayride1> Anyone good with network manager? I seem to always get something messed up when I use desktop distros
[11:33] <invariant> agu10^_, the educating yourself part involves educating yourself.
[11:33] <Ben64> take offtopic speak to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:34] <brandon420> I dont freaking get it!
[11:34] <Jordan_U> usr13: resolve.conf is configured to simply point at localhost, where DNS requests get sent to dnsmasq (which has its own configuration files).
[11:34] <agu10^_> invariant, means not talking to people who can guide me? ok
[11:34] <sheikhmak> http://serverfault.com/questions/13419/what-are-some-good-open-source-alternatives-to-active-directory agu10^_
[11:34] <usr13> Jordan_U: O
[11:34] <invariant> agu10^_, it's a waste of time to ask people here.
[11:35] <invariant> agu10^_, read the manual.
[11:35] <invariant> agu10^_, there are likely many issues which need to be solved before it actually works.
[11:35] <sheikhmak> agu10^_ okay let me ask couple of questions, you want to migrate, or implement a similar tehcnology ??
[11:35] <agu10^_> i want to start with that technology. i don't have any windows servers or anything
[11:36] <yeats> agu10^_: this is the ubuntu support channel and your questions are not really on-topic here
[11:36] <agu10^_> but if i have to install something new for a small company
[11:36] <agu10^_> I'd rather let them use linux, mac and windows instead of going for microsoft enterprise services
[11:36] <Ben64> agu10^_: take offtopic elsewhere
[11:36] <brandon420> Jordan_U, usr13 Thanks for the help. I am about to reset my router settings. If i'm not back in 15 minutes call the police!
[11:36] <invariant> agu10^_, this is not #free-consultants
[11:37] <Guest72701> hello, i've installed LAMP to desktop, but would like to be able to turn the service off and on. so i was wondering are these instructions still valid for 12.04?: http://www.kevingillan.info/techblog/141/
[11:37] <agu10^_> where shall i go then?
[11:37] <agu10^_> in #windows-server they DO help D:
[11:37] <usr13> brandon420: Ok  :)
[11:37] <Jordan_U> brandon420: You shouldn't need to change your router settings to change your DNS server (though it is true that if you have multiple machines that might be most convenient).
[11:37] <nowayride1> I'm pretty much left without network manager, tried uninstalling it and using ifconfig/route but still no networking, what get's this stuff mangled?
[11:37] <yeats> agu10^_: I would consult with a professional
[11:37] <usr13> nowayride1: What's the problem?
[11:38] <uragano2> Hello, i use a "green pc" with ubuntu 12.04 as NAS,local server and other. Now i am thinking that instead to use my local server as "download directory" may be nice to send it the link to download the resource so i can switch off my computer!
[11:39] <brandon420> Jordan_U, I have one of those really fancy routers, and in lamest terms I have no freaking idea what i am doing. Resetting would seem to be the quickest/easiest option in this situation. If not, i will be back on the irc asking more questions.
[11:40] <nowayride1> Had network manager, tried to set static IP, lots of issues and tried to use ifconfig to fix it, tried removing 70-persistent which stopped generating, removed network manager to do it the "regular" Linux way, but ifconfig and route still won't create a valid connection, ping just hangs
[11:40] <usr13> nowayride1: Do you have a DHCP server running on your router?
[11:40] <uragano2> it could be a plugin for browser, but the unique solution that i thinked is to use  a web service on server...do u suggest other solutions?
[11:40] <japro> invariant, well, it turns out installing glew actually was the culprit... to get fglrx to work i have to apparently use the (dirty) fix of symlinking lib64 to lib... but the install script of glew actually created a lib64 directory overwriting the symlink...
[11:40] <nowayride1> Yeah but it's set for .100 and higher and I'm trying .11, plus trying to use dhcp completely hangs and never resolves
[11:41] <invariant> japro, you didn't say anything about glew to me.
[11:41] <invariant> !glew
[11:41] <nowayride1> Static is working for another computer and dhcp is working for my phone
[11:41] <invariant> japro, what is glew?
[11:41] <usr13> nowayride1: So the DHCP pool is 100 and up?
[11:42] <nowayride1> Yes
[11:42] <ge0rJey> can someone please tell me ,what will be the regex to match a 7 letter word where first 3 characters [0-2] and last 3 characters [4-6] should be same ?
[11:42] <ge0rJey> they can be any characters , but they should be same on either side. as in the regex should retain the previously matched 3 chars
[11:42] <japro> its and extension loader for opengl and i needed the newest version...
[11:42] <usr13> nowayride1: Just edit /etc/network/interfaces and set your IP info there.
[11:42] <japro> so a library
[11:42] <nowayride1> I've tried that too
[11:42] <yeats> ge0rJey: you should ask in #programming
[11:43] <usr13> nowayride1: Example(s): http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[11:43] <nowayride1> Was just on that page to double check
[11:43] <usr13> nowayride1: That didn't work?
[11:44] <usr13> nowayride1: what happens?
[11:44] <nowayride1> iface eth0 inet static \n address 192.168.0.11 \n netmask 2555.255.255.0 \n gateway 192.168.0.1
[11:44] <nowayride1> Obviously \n as actual line breaks
[11:45] <nowayride1> Eth0 comes back up with ok but fails to ping or resolve
[11:45] <usr13> nowayride1: route -n  #what does that say?
[11:46] <nowayride1> Has 0.0.0.0 ? 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.0 > 0.0.0.0
[11:46] <nowayride1> ? = >
[11:46] <brandon420> Not sure if I have let you guys know how much I love you. Thank you #ubuntu for being there for me when I do dumb stuff that you help me fix.
[11:46] <usr13> nowayride1: Can you ping 192.168.0.1 ?
[11:46] <nowayride1> Nope
[11:46] <nowayride1> Destination host unreachable
[11:47] <usr13> nowayride1: ifconfig eth0  #What inet IP does it show?
[11:47] <nowayride1> 192.168.0.11
[11:47] <usr13> nowayride1: Check cable.
[11:47] <usr13> nowayride1: Do you have more than one Ethernet Adapter?
[11:48] <nowayride1> Nah just the one port
[11:48] <usr13> Maybe it's deaf
[11:49] <usr13> Or you have a bad cable.
[11:49] <nowayride1> And unplugged the router :\
[11:50] <usr13> nowayride1: What?
[11:50] <nowayride1> Diff cable nope
[11:50] <nowayride1> I accidentally unplugged my router lol
[11:50] <usr13> O
[11:50] <brandon420> hahah
[11:51] <nowayride1> This just baffles me because every time I touch a networking config with anything that has network manager it ends up in reinstalling the OS
[11:51] <nowayride1> Is there something somewhere else in the OS that makes it really touchy?
[11:51] <schreber> Anyone happen to know of a chessbase like program for linux?
[11:51] <Ben64> nowayride1: you must just be doing strange things
[11:52] <nowayride1> Install Ubuntu > Use ifconfig > Watch my room burn down. Not sure what I did wrong.
[11:53] <usr13> nowayride1: I don't know. I've not had those problems.
[11:53] <dr_willis> never had issues with networking either.
[11:53] <usr13> nowayride1: I use my router to set static leases
[11:53] <dr_willis> plug in router/wires set up auto in NM and there we go.
[11:54] <nowayride1> I use statics for forwarding rules
[11:54] <dr_willis> I can set my router to assign ip based on MAC so my home servers get the same ip all the time
[11:54] <dr_willis> and i forward what i need
[11:54] <Ben64> I use my ubuntu system as the dhcp server
[11:54] <usr13> I use dd-wrt router
[11:55] <nowayride1> I really need to get dd-wrt
[11:55] <usr13> Yea, it's nice
[11:55] <iuser> dd-wrt = asus
[11:56] <nowayride1> I have an e4200
[11:56] <dr_willis> got some E4??? here i think also
[11:58] <meingbg> Hey, I have a weird package error: On lucid, libfuse-dev depends on libfuse2 (= 2.8.1-1.1ubuntu2) although packages.ubuntu.com states it should depend on 2.8.1-1.1ubuntu3.1. How can I resolve this?
[11:59] <yeats> meingbg: I would try 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[11:59] <yeats> !info libfuse2 lucid
[11:59] <CorvusCorax> hi. I recently installed Ubuntu using the net installer. but when it boots it freezes due to a graphic driver issue. I can get a command line in the recovery mode. how do I change the graphic driver from the recovery console?
[12:00] <CorvusCorax> all howtos I found secribe graphical utilities, which I cnat run since the xserver wont start
[12:00] <dr_willis> CorvusCorax:  whats your video card/chipset?
[12:00] <dr_willis> and is it using that Optimus Dual GPU thing thats getting common?
[12:01] <CorvusCorax> dr_jesus_, its an ATI laptop card. I do know that the fglrx (catalyst) drivers work for it, so I know in theory which driver to get
[12:01] <CorvusCorax> dr_willis, soorry, wrong nick autocompletion
[12:02] <CorvusCorax> how may dr_* are here? ;)
[12:02] <Evil_Eric> CorvusCorax, what ati do you have
[12:02] <ix_> lots
[12:03] <CorvusCorax> i forgot the exact card description, lspci lists it as Radeon HD 6400G-6600G series
[12:03] <CorvusCorax> i think it was 6680 G or something like that
[12:04] <meingbg> yeats: Thanks. This happens even after 'apt-get update'. Since libfuse2 is 3.1, I want the libfuse-dev version that depends on 3.1, which is what it does according to the package list on web. Is there any risk that 'apt-get -f install' will get the wrong version of libfuse-dev?
[12:04] <Evil_Eric> so is it a switchable grapics set up
[12:04] <CorvusCorax> I already had to ghack grub into not changing the fbconsole into graphics mode, since otherwise I have no txt terminal either and the keyboard wont work
[12:04] <CorvusCorax> might be yes
[12:05] <Evil_Eric> ok i got your fix then bud
[12:05] <Evil_Eric> you on 12.04 or 12.10
[12:05] <SouravAJ> ok so i have ubuntuone installed.... is removing ubuntuone  is safe?
[12:05] <yeats> meingbg: you can do 'apt-cache policy libfuse2' to see what's available in your current repos
[12:06] <CorvusCorax> 12.10, freshly installed
[12:06] <iuser> SoulShadow, sure
[12:06] <Evil_Eric> ok gimme a min to get the link for u
[12:06] <iuser> SoulShadow, i removed the software center too
[12:07] <SouravAJ> ok so i have ubuntuone installed.... is removing ubuntuone  is safe?
[12:07] <bekks> Sure.
[12:07] <CorvusCorax> sure, thnx :)
[12:07] <dr_willis> if you dont plan on using UbuntuOne ;)
[12:07] <iuser> it might not be safe in the future
[12:07] <SouravAJ> ok
[12:08] <iuser> if ubuntu became to amazon cloud machine
[12:08] <dr_willis> ubuntuOne is just really handy. ;)
[12:09] <iuser> this is not true in a ghost island
[12:10] <sheikhmak> okay so i have another unusual question, lol, its been bothering me. lol ocd, style. I tried gnome desktop, and installed it on top of unity, now when laptop boots, grub is blue, and i get this blue wallpaper in the background before desktop starts, before it switches to my normall wallpaper. i'm seriously irked by this. how can i change this behavior
[12:11] <dr_willis> you mean in the login manager?
[12:11] <sheikhmak> right before the login manager starts
[12:11] <dr_willis> grub => Plymouth splash -> login screen
[12:11] <Evil_Eric> CorvusCorax, you there
[12:12] <dr_willis> plymouth does the animation  Ubuntu ..... thing
[12:12] <CorvusCorax> yep
[12:12] <Evil_Eric> CorvusCorax, look in your pm
[12:12] <sheikhmak> nope dr_
[12:13] <sheikhmak> alright i can track this, will change grub
[12:13] <dr_willis> my SSD boots so fast  i barely even see thos screens.
[12:13] <sheikhmak> then try to reset plymouth
[12:13] <sheikhmak> then try to reset login screen
[12:13] <sheikhmak> where do i look for login screen options?
[12:13] <dr_willis> sounds like a lot of work for very little gain
[12:13] <dr_willis> Lightdm has its own config files.
[12:14] <sheikhmak> dr_willis i'm ocd.
[12:14] <sheikhmak> ahhahaha
[12:14] <dr_willis> by default it shows the selected users wallpaper
[12:14] <dr_willis> sheikhmak:  get over it..
[12:14] <sheikhmak> lol its itching HHAHA
[12:16] <__Cronopio> hola
[12:17] <hvchvxhfxfdd> Does 12.4 not use xorg.conf anymore
[12:17] <Evil_Eric> yes
[12:17] <dr_willis> xorg.conf has been optional for like years
[12:17] <__Cronopio> tengo una pregunta y mucha info no encuentro de momento. por casualidad conocéis el programa Line? sabéis si hay versión para ubuntu?
[12:17] <Evil_Eric> hi dr_willis
[12:18] <hvchvxhfxfdd> Whats the alternative
[12:18] <dury> hi there channel :-)
[12:18] <dr_willis> X auto confiogures these days so an xorg.confis not normally needed
[12:19] <Tex_Nick> ! ubottu es | __Cronopio
[12:19] <dury> which is more stable 12.04 LTS or 12.10?
[12:19] <loke> dury: that depends on what you want to do
[12:20] <CorvusCorax> when my X autoconfigures it crashes :-(
[12:20] <dury> loke: give me an example or suggestion, please
[12:21] <Tex_Nick> ! ubottu es | __Cronopio
[12:21] <dr_willis> we dont know what you want to do with your system. ;)
[12:22] <bob6784678487> Any dark themes for Pidgin (Windows)? Hurting my eyes. :'(
[12:22] <lollko> bob6784678487: install other theme
[12:22] <dury> graphics, music, internet, development loke, dr_willis
[12:23] <Tex_Nick> ok i give up some should direct __Cronopio to the spanich channel ... jeeze i'm lame
[12:23] <dr_willis> dury:  i doubt if the relase will matter much.
[12:23] <loke> dury: you don't need "stability" for that. You need the latest stuff. :-)
[12:23] <bob6784678487> Thanks, lollko.
[12:23] <loke> So, 12.10 unless you have specific needs
[12:24] <dury> loke: specific needs like what?
[12:24] <rifter> stupid question: I'm trying to search the ubuntu forums, and for some reason no matter what my search terms are being searched with "OR" instead of "AND" .. even if I include "AND" between the terms.  I could swear it used to default to AND with my previous settings. How can I force it to include all search terms?
[12:24] <dury> just examples, loke
[12:26] <loke> dury: I don't know. I can't think of anything.
[12:26] <Ben64> I've had problems with non-LTS versions in the past, so I stick with LTS
[12:27] <rifter> couldn't find any help for the forum search either, so...
[12:27] <blackshirt> !info libapache2-modphp
[12:28] <dury> are there much differences between 12.04 & 12.10?
[12:28] <blackshirt> !info libapache2-mod-php
[12:28] <blackshirt> what is apache modules for php ?
[12:28] <loke> ubottu: good :-)
[12:29] <nashant> Hi, I'm having samba problems. Getting access denied from windows 7. This is my smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1364808/, I've added user nobody to group sambashare, and permissions on all my shares are 775. user:group for all shares is ant:sambashare
[12:29] <loke> i mean blackshirt
[12:29] <blackshirt> loke, do you know ?
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> dury  there are plenty reviews, here's one http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-review-7000005929/
[12:29] <rifter> nm I found the answer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1024129
[12:29] <Ben64> blackshirt - try using apt-cache search
[12:29] <blackshirt> !find mod-php
[12:30] <blackshirt> I'm not sitting on pc
[12:30] <lollko> nashant: try anonymous
[12:30] <lollko> gues account anonymous
[12:32] <nashant> lolko: before, I was getting access denied when I tried to access the shares. with anonymous, access denied when trying to access the server
[12:32] <blackshirt> !info libapache-mod-php5
[12:32] <blackshirt> !info libapache2-mod-php5
[12:33] <nashant> so that sounds like permission problems with the shares themselves, right?
[12:34] <dr_willis> you are accessing them as guest or a specific user?
[12:34] <nashant> dr_willis: guest
[12:34] <dr_willis> try as a user? give theuser a samba password via 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' as a test.. also you could check the samba and auth logs to see whys its getting denied.
[12:35] <blackshirt> !info libapache2-mod-user
[12:35] <nashant> I can access from my laptop, which has the same username and pass as the server
[12:35] <blackshirt> !find mod-user
[12:35] <nashant> That's all good
[12:35] <nashant> Just not from anonymous
[12:35] <blackshirt> !find moduser
[12:36] <dr_willis> so user works, guest fails.
[12:37] <nashant> yup
[12:37] <nashant> the logs would be in /var/log/samba, right?
[12:37] <blackshirt> dr_willis, what is apache module to support user public_html ?
[12:38] <dr_willis> blackshirt:  No idea. I dont apache ;)
[12:38] <jrib> Hayate: userdir
[12:38] <nashant> dr_willis: not seeing anything about it in /var/log/samba/log.smbd
[12:39] <Hayate> jrib, what is package names to install ?
[12:39] <jrib> Hayate: it comes with the apache package
[12:39] <Hayate> !find userdir
[12:39] <rifter> I have a widescreen monitor and for some reason my pttys all have the left and right side cut off with black bars so that I cannot see the username and password prompts. Any suggestions? I've been trying to find the answer in the forums. I know I've solved this before but I forget how
[12:40] <Hayate> Jrib, how to activate them in a simplest way ?
[12:40] <jrib> Hayate: a2enmod userdir
[12:40] <Hayate> jrib, thank guys, you great person
[12:40] <dr_willis> rifter:  some monitors have a 'scaleing' option in their settings for 'scale/crop/zoom' may be its set to crop.
[12:41] <dr_willis> rifter:  also seen that in some software config tools.
[12:41] <dr_willis> you could also try messign with the framebuffer and fbset commands for the console if they are using the framebuffer
[12:43] <nowayride1> Speaking of scaling, I had to use xrandr for Elementary and used cvt values, but 1920x1080 turned into more like, 1300x1024 or something, any clues?
[12:43] <CorvusCorax> gah damn, I think I am running into this bug:
[12:43] <CorvusCorax> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer-updates/+bug/1069199
[12:43] <alexandr> oo
[12:43] <CorvusCorax> in combination with a card that doesn't run with the FOSS driver
[12:45] <dury> nvidia better than Ati in ubuntu :-)
[12:45] <CorvusCorax> dury: doesn't help me much, this is a laptop
[12:45] <nashant> dr_willis: any other tips?
[12:45] <CorvusCorax> I even checked wether the card is supprted under linux in general before buying it (I have the same one running gentoo fine)
[12:46] <Sayan> hh
[12:46] <CorvusCorax> I have to say so ar I'm a bit disappointed by how ubuntu behaves in this regard
[12:47] <dr_willis> nashant: Not really - sounds almost like a firewall blocing stuff if  the ogs are not even seeing  connection attempts.
[12:47] <grebi> i've been following a guide and int he guide it says: "In your text editor look for the lines with start up information and comment them out by adding a hash at the beginning of each line."
[12:47] <grebi> what is the startup informaiton in mysql file?
[12:47] <dury> CorvusCorax: which laptop is... a Dell?
[12:47] <CorvusCorax> Samsung
[12:47] <nashant> dr_willis: ah! good idea. I'll check that
[12:48] <jrib> grebi: what do you want to accomplish?
[12:48] <CorvusCorax> samsung 30535a
[12:48] <CorvusCorax> samsung 305E5A
[12:48] <rifter> dr_willis, what do you mean? where would that setting be?
[12:48] <rifter> dr_willis, this is only happening in my pttys. everywhere else it does not do this
[12:49] <rifter> dr_willis, I'm going to try something .. brb
[12:50] <nashant> dr_willis: Nope. turned off firewall and still it's saying access denied when trying to enter a share. I can see the shares fine though
[12:51] <dr_willis> try accessing them via the ip# and not the servername? :)
[12:51] <dury> have to go bbl take all?
[12:51] <dury> have to go bbl take all, :-)
[12:52] <dury> I mean take care all :-)
[12:52] <nashant> dr_willis: got a workaround. force user = ant on the read only shares. Then make writable shares on accessible by ant
[12:53] <XiaolinDraconis> ive got a folder to delete, im afraid it is going to do something generally unexpected and follow some symlinks into my home folder and delete things there, how can i guarantee it wont
[12:53] <Arivazhagan> i am keep on getting error reports can anyone help me to disable it?
[12:57] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/how-to-get-rid-of-internal-system-error.html
[12:57] <dr_willis> perhaps
[12:58] <XiaolinDraconis> i think ive figured out my answer
[12:58] <XiaolinDraconis> rm --one-file-system -R
[12:59] <XiaolinDraconis> that should keep it from removing anything via symlink, since its a fat32 im deleting and my home is ext4
[13:00] <XiaolinDraconis> thanks guys... ;p
[13:00] <Arivazhagan> dr_willis, Thank u so much
[13:02] <XiaolinDraconis> i still cant see how a copy n paste that shouldve been a few hundred MB's took up 30Gigs
[13:03] <XiaolinDraconis> copied my home folder to a removable fat32 drive, and it ate all the free space and wanted to keep going
[13:03] <TheWicked> hi
[13:03] <m1rach4n> XiaolinDraconis: links?
[13:04] <dr_willis> copying stuff across filesystems would follow symbolic links id think
[13:04] <dirtyChristine> termine cansandome de oklahoma alli me llamaban la guarra del condado
[13:04] <dirtyChristine> pero bueno en oklahoma solo habia putas maricones y vacas
[13:04] <dirtyChristine> cuando me contrataron para fregar los labavos en el cuartel del general johnpsons
[13:04] <dirtyChristine> perdi mi virginidad por primera vez
[13:04] <dirtyChristine> aun recuerdo al soldado ryan dandome por el culo
[13:04] <dirtyChristine> y al sargento de hierro con los pantalones por lo tobillos esperando turno
[13:04] <dirtyChristine> mientras el coronel truman se colocaba el condon
[13:04] <FloodBot1> dirtyChristine: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:04] <newbie|2> How do I, with Ubuntu 12.10 (64 bit), upgrade my maps on my Tomtom Via 120 live?  I tried to follow instructions on the site of Tomtom, but it didn't work
[13:04] <XiaolinDraconis> m1rach4n, thats my only guess
[13:06] <XiaolinDraconis> how can i keep windows from corrupting files i transfer via usb, sometimes when i place files on the drive from ubuntu, then use those files on windows, they end up corrupted
[13:06] <dr_willis> what sort of files?
[13:06] <XiaolinDraconis> mostly archives
[13:06] <dr_willis> Only time ive ever seen any such issues is when i had some translation options set in fstab
[13:07] <XiaolinDraconis> also exe's
[13:07] <dr_willis> and that was years ago.
[13:07] <Rexter> what format is the usb drive?
[13:07] <XiaolinDraconis> fat32
[13:07] <dr_willis> never seen the issue using NTFS-3g
[13:07] <dr_willis> what does mount say about the mountpoint. what optiosn is it using>
[13:08] <XiaolinDraconis> whatever comes default when you have ubuntu installer mount a drive by default
[13:08] <XiaolinDraconis> but in the past it was auto mounted
[13:09] <XiaolinDraconis> plug n play style
[13:09] <Rexter> when you say, they end up corrupted, are you saying that you can read them at first, but then they get corrupted?
[13:09] <chronik-rootz> Another Austinite woot.
[13:09] <rifter> dr_willis, okay that didn't work. I tried changing the resolution by using vga= in grub2, but that didn't change the resolution of the pttys
[13:09] <XiaolinDraconis> i use em just fine in windows, but then plugging back into ubuntu they are not useable
[13:10] <cantoma> guys, any console based sound equalizer?
[13:10] <Marvel> Hi. I've just moved from windows to ubuntu. I'm can't browse to files stored on my nas in certain apps i.e puddletag,transmission. Is there anyway to mount my unraid server as a local drive or a work around ?
[13:10] <dr_willis> XiaolinDraconis:  you do use the safely remove... feture in windows befor unplugging them>
[13:10] <XiaolinDraconis> ah seems the current drive im using is ntfs
[13:10] <XiaolinDraconis> usually i just shutdown
[13:10] <rifter> dr_willis, any ideas how to change the resolution of the pttys? I think if I set it to a widescreen resolution it would not be cut off, although I son't see why it is cut off in the first place
[13:11] <THEJOLLYGRIMREAP> join #reprap
[13:11] <XiaolinDraconis> this drive is ntfs, i havent used it for said situation yet. so not sure if there will be errors
[13:11] <dr_willis> rifter:  theres the various framebuffer features. but i havent messed with them ina ges
[13:12] <XiaolinDraconis> ill have to pay closer attention this time around, its been awhile since ive trusted windows with my usb drives
[13:12] <XiaolinDraconis> last time i had a problem was my thumb drive with a bootable os on it, used the free space to transfer a file from windows to ubuntu, corrupted
[13:13] <Rexter> Marvel, I don't know exactly hoe to do it, but edit fstab to automount, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[13:13] <XiaolinDraconis> and that i know i safely removed
[13:14] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. Empathy is giving me a hard time these days. I'm using empathy 3.6 under Quantal, and it's giving me a "Certificate self signed" error with my jabber.org account. They had some problems with the certs but it's fixed by now, and empathy is the only IM client behaving this way. It's also behaving strangely with MSN accounts. Any explanations ? Thanks.
[13:15] <NLNM> BlackNarcissus: maybe you gotta delete some crazy certificate files like you do with SSH
[13:15] <Marvel> I'll have a read Rexter thx
[13:16] <BlackNarcissus> NLNM: I looked up about adding or deleting certificates, but I can't find them. Maybe a reinstall...
[13:17] <NLNM> yea, if others can get connected OK and its just a local thing, i'd guess a reinstall may help
[13:17] <NLNM> why not
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:17] <NLNM> sup BluesKaj
[13:17] <Rexter> I'm using Pinguy OS, it uses a custom Gnome 3 Menu. Does anyone know how to change a menu item icon?
[13:18] <BluesKaj> hey NLNM
[13:18] <k1l> Rexter: better ask the pinguy guys
[13:19] <Rexter> k1l, yea small community, not very active. Thought someone here might know.
[13:19] <rifter> dr_willis, gonna try setting grub as recommended here: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/17027/how-to-set-the-resolution-in-text-consoles-troubleshoot-when-any-vga-fail
[13:19] <rifter> dr_willis, gotta reboot for that.. wish me luck
[13:21] <kanha> i have ubuntu 12.04 installed in my laptop bt the system automatically restarts this happens many time.what should i do to fix this
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> kanha: have you tested the RAM using memtest in Grub?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Rexter: pinguy isn't supported here
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Rexter: I suggest you ask in #PinguyOS
[13:24] <kanha> no
[13:24] <fluitfries> hi all.  i have a NTFS usb drive that says it is "mounted" in gparted, but i cannot see it's mount point nor access the disk.  any ideas?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Rexter: None of the Ubuntu based OSes are supported in the Ubuntu channels.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: run:   mount
[13:25] <NLNM> ^^
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Rexter: similarly,Ubuntu is based on Debian, but if you ask for support in #debian you will be pointed here
[13:25] <kanha> ActionParsnip: no
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> kanha: I recommend it, also clear your fans if it is a laptop PC
[13:26] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, i see a listing for a "gvfs-fuse-daemon" but i do not see a mount point
[13:26] <kanha> ActionParsnip:yes it's a laptop pc.can you tell how to clear fans
[13:26] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, unless /home/username/.gvfs is the mount point??
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> kanha: compressed air is useful
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: isn't it in /run somewhere now?
[13:27] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. Empathy 3.6.0.3 is giving me a "Certificate self-signed" error with jabber.org. Other IM clients don't. Any suggestions ? Thanks a lot.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: tried looking in /run/user/$USER/gvfs
[13:28] <NLNM> does empathy create self-signed certs? can you do it again?
[13:28] <NLNM> login to jabber.org and delete ur old one?
[13:29] <BlackNarcissus> NLNM: Delete my jabber account ?
[13:29] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, i don't have /run/user :(
[13:29] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, and i don't see it anywhere else in /run
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[13:29] <NLNM> no no no no no, BlackNarcissus what am i thinking, its natural to get warnings for a self-signed cert
[13:29] <NLNM> so long as you know what you're getting
[13:30] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, precise
[13:30] <BlackNarcissus> NLNM: Well the thing is, jabber.org had some problems with their certs but they fixed it and pidgin and such don't give me a warning... I figured it was empathy's fault.
[13:30] <NLNM> it could be that empathy doesnt know how to handle the update
[13:31] <NLNM> if ur stuck on empathy, just reinstall it, try and get rid of all traces
[13:31] <BlackNarcissus> NLNM: I just did, remove and purge, deleted config files, but still...
[13:31] <BlackNarcissus> No luck.
[13:32] <Rexter> I see now that I approached my question poorly. I have another machine running ubuntu 12.04 box with Gnome shell. I use the Cardapio menu. I'm trying to figure out how to change a particular application icon. Does anyone know how to do that?
[13:33] <NLNM> seems to be a bug in empathy
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: do you know the names of some files on the device?
[13:33] <NLNM> search results show others experiencing it
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: sudo updatedb; locate filenamepart     may show it.
[13:34] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, hey, another reboot fixed it...  somehow
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: sweet :)
[13:34] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, ty for your help as always.  :D
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: i try
[13:34] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, you're the man.
[13:35] <dr_willis> Rexter:  program menu icons are normally defined in the progams whatevername.desktop file
[13:35] <BlackNarcissus> NLNM: Yes, I saw the bug reports, but they were kinda old, so I figured maybe someone here would have a workaround.
[13:36] <BlackNarcissus> NLNM: At first I thought the error came from jabber.org
[13:37] <Rexter> dr_willis, thanks. Yea the icon is also appearing incorrectly in Docky. How do i get to this?
[13:38] <NLNM> BlackNarcissus: just signed up for a jabber.org account using trillian, no errors
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: just trying to strengthen the distro :). Thanks
[13:39] <BlackNarcissus> NLNM: Yeah, other IM clients like pidgin, psi, etc don't give any warning... Thanks for your help by the way. I'm puzzled.
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Pidgin rocks
[13:39] <NLNM> ;)
[13:40] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: Yes, I realized that recently.
[13:40] <rifter> dr_willis, looks like that was the right way to change the resolutions. It made the pttys quit cutting things off. I'll have to play with the resolutions to get what I want, but that worked.  Thanks for your help
[13:40] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: But it's not integrated in the messaging menu in Quantal. :(
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: it is if you get the 2.10.6 version
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: had the same issue in Raring, now its alllllll goooood
[13:41] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: From pidgin's PPA ?
[13:41] <NLNM> BlackNarcissus: maybe snoop around /etc/ssl/cert
[13:42] <NLNM> *      /etc/ssl/certs
[13:42] <antonpiatek> Anyone know how to report a bug against ubuntu.com?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ppa/   the same
[13:43] <BlackNarcissus> NLNM: I'll check then. You can manually download a certificate from jabber.org but I didn't know where to put it.
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: there is even a deb to add the ppa :)
[13:44] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll give it a try if you say it's integrated in the menu. Empathy 3.6 is very buggy in Quantal, so I may switch permanently.
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: Its what I've used the last 12 years :) (well, it used to be called Gaim)
[13:45] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: Haha, I remember using Gaim on Red Hat when I was a teenager
[13:45] <antonpiatek> In case anyone here works on the ubuntu.com website, I just raised https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/1080067 because the download links for 12.10 amd64 (maybe more) are completely wrong
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> antonpiatek: I always use cdimage.com
[13:46] <Ttslayer> hey guys i have a question
[13:46] <antonpiatek> ActionParsnip, thanks, will remember that - still terrible to give users the wrong ISO
[13:46] <Ttslayer> will Lubuntu 12.04 get any security updates/patches after its 18 months support period
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> antonpiatek: oh absolutely. The bug has been reported so it should get sorted
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Ttslayer: yes, it uses the packages from the same repo
[13:47] <antonpiatek> ActionParsnip, shame I can't up the priority - as I think this is pretty serious given it is th main public website
[13:47] <jrib> antonpiatek: i still get the right iso though
[13:47] <Ttslayer> oh great so its like half an LTS
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> antonpiatek: I agree
[13:47] <fingerman_> hi
[13:47] <antonpiatek> jrib, following the url in my bug report?
[13:47] <jrib> antonpiatek: yes
[13:47] <antonpiatek> ActionParsnip, as you say - raised, so im sure someone will look at it
[13:47] <jrib> antonpiatek: well, by actually using the site anyway.
[13:48] <antonpiatek> jrib, ?! how odd... I totally don't
[13:48] <DJones> antonpiatek: I get the 64 bit download using the link you put in the bug report
[13:48] <jrib> antonpiatek: the link does say bits=32, but it takes me to a amd64 iso
[13:48] <Ttslayer> just a last question before i bounce outta here, what support specifically does LTS provide?
[13:48] <Kheo> hello, how can I run two programs at once in Ubuntu via command line ?
[13:48] <fingerman_> my ubuntu says: your computer going fuck you
[13:49] <antonpiatek> jrib, DJones odd - suddenly working for me now too - I wonder if someone else just noticed and fixed it
[13:49] <Ttslayer> Kheo: just open 2 terminals
[13:49] <jrib> antonpiatek: if i just click on your second link, then it's a i386 iso
[13:49] <arand> Kheo: program1 & program2 & ...
[13:49] <BluesKaj> fingerman_, no need for that kind of language
[13:49] <fingerman_> my ubuntu jumping from a roof
[13:49] <frankie_> Kheo: screen command
[13:49] <DJones> fingerman_: No need for swearing in the channel
[13:50] <Ttslayer> Kheo: its program1 && program2
[13:50] <Kheo> thanks I will try this
[13:50] <arand> Ttslayer: No.
[13:50] <jrib> Ttslayer: no, that's not what he asked
[13:50] <Ttslayer> oh ok
[13:50] <wlosio> exist any DE who is copy of DE used in Mac OS X?.
[13:50] <Kheo> so how I do it ?
[13:50] <fingerman_> my ubuntu going fuck this
[13:50] <jrib> Kheo: see what arand said
[13:50] <jrib> fingerman_: mind your language please
[13:50] <Ttslayer> yup i just checked Arand is right
[13:51] <Kheo> arand: If I want to run sc_serv and sc_trans at same time.. I do like this: sc_serv & sc_trans ?
[13:51] <Kheo> they are executable.
[13:51] <Ttslayer> why dont u try it and check?
[13:51] <Kheo> I don't know how to try..because I know the executables are executed with ./
[13:51] <Kheo> ...
[13:52] <dr_willis> ./command
[13:52] <Kheo> yes..and how can I run two like that ?
[13:52] <arand> Kheo: ./program1 & ./program2 works just as well
[13:52] <dr_willis>  && will run command 2 after command 1 sucussfully exits
[13:52] <Kheo> ok I will try
[13:53] <linusoleander> I'm trying to connect to a tomcat server (locally) and also an elasticsearch server, without success.
[13:53] <Kheo> thanks.
[13:53] <Kheo> arand Ttslayer jrib thanks.
[13:53] <linusoleander> Curl returns "curl: (7) couldn't connect to host" every time, why is that?
[13:53] <arand> Kheo: "If a command is terminated by the control operator &, the shell executes the command in the background in a subshell. The shell  does  not wait  for the command to finish, and the return status is 0." from the  bash manual page ;)
[13:54] <Ttslayer> no probs
[13:55] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: I'm using pidgin 2.10.6 and it's not integrating in the messaging menu... Do you have any suggestions ? Thanks
[13:56] <neil1234567890> hi guys i need support for synaptic package manager.please.
[13:56] <k1l> !ask | neil1234567890
[13:56] <m1rach4n> linusoleander: remote down?
[13:56] <linusoleander> m1rach4n: What do you mean?
[13:57] <linusoleander> m1rach4n: I'm on my local machine
[13:57] <neil1234567890> OK
[13:57] <neil1234567890> how come my synaptic package manager shows available updates, and i cannot even install them
[13:58] <duff12> hey, ive got a server with a netxtreme bcm5704 network adapter. the ubuntu alternate setup just hangs at network configuration. any ideas? some sources say that the setup should ask for the firmware, but it doesnt. i just get a blank screen.
[13:58] <brandon420> How can i make a launcher for rtorrent?
[13:58] <m1rach4n> linusoleander: is the server running/listening?
[13:58] <dr_willis> brandon420:  somthing like 'xterm -e rtorrent'
[13:59] <linusoleander> m1rach4n: curl http://localhost.8080 => "curl: (7) couldn't connect to host" doesn't that mean that the server isn't running?
[13:59] <linusoleander> It's up in some way, I can see that a java processes is running using "ps aux | grep java | head"
[14:00] <linusoleander> m1rach4n: this is the output: https://gist.github.com/1d59c35eb2cf711fc172
[14:00] <brandon420> dr_willis, where would that put the launcher?
[14:00] <tsimpson> linusoleander: localhost.8080 or localhost:8080?
[14:00] <linusoleander> http://127.0.0.1:8080
[14:00] <m1rach4n> http://localhost.8080 << do you mean :
[14:01] <linusoleander> Without the dot
[14:01] <dr_willis> brandon420:  no where.. you still need to make a .desktop file to run that command
[14:01] <dr_willis> brandon420:  since rtorrent has no gui. you need to launch a terminal that runs the program
[14:01] <frankie_> linusoleader, you may check with netstat -an first
[14:01] <tsimpson> linusoleander: have a look at "sudo netstat -lnp" to see if it's actually listening
[14:02] <linusoleander> tsimpson: fraggle_ It isn't listed
[14:04] <m1rach4n> linusoleander: have a look at the logs then
[14:09] <Rexter> If I want to change my Firefox icon to something custom in unity, how would I do that?
[14:09] <linusoleander> m1rach4n: The logs for elastic search and tomcat is empty
[14:09] <linusoleander> Which is a bit strange
[14:16] <dr_willis> Rexter:  find the firefox.desktop file and edit it to point to the new icon
[14:16] <dr_willis> or make a copy of it
[14:16] <klausl> dr_willis: Helo! Is @FloodBot1 a Bot?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: did you log off and on?
[14:18] <m1rach4n> klausl: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/IRC/Bots
[14:19] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: Yes, I restarted altogether, and pidgin doesn't show up. I even removed empathy. It seems it's a known bug with libmessaging-menu because they're porting some api. But you say it works for you, I'm jealous :D
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: i'm using raring :)
[14:20] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: Oh, ok. I'll have to wait then.
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: Rexter is using PInguyos, just an fyi
[14:20] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[14:23] <m1rach4n> linusoleander: i would wipe and re-do the config in this case
[14:24] <linusoleander> m1rach4n: been there one that :9
[14:24] <linusoleander> m1rach4n: http://serverfault.com/questions/449218/elasticsearch-wont-start-anymore
[14:29] <plunky> After re-installing my PC ~10 times these last days I really need help now. Is it possible to get the proprietary ATI driver working with a HD 6870 and Ubuntu 12.10?
[14:29] <jtj-h> Hello, i cant seem to change the sound levels of skype? other programs are there spotify movie player ect
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> plunky: sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle; sudo aticonfig --initial
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> jtj-h: go moan at skype, the client is proprietary
[14:30] <plunky> ActionParsnip: So the linux-source/header part. Should I skip that?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> plunky: it should be pulled in as a dep
[14:32] <plunky> Ok, here goes. Thanks!   :)
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> jtj-h: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/natty-sound-menu-adds-microphone-slider-for-skype-calls    seems to be a thing since natty....
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> jtj-h: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/skype-ubuntu-messaging-menu-notifyosd.html
[14:53] <DDAZZA> Hey, I'm getting this error when doing an apt-get update http://pastebin.com/93G5AshW.  How do I resolve it?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> DDAZZA: Mint is not supported here
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> DDAZZA: Natty is also EOL (no more updates)
[14:54] <DDAZZA> ActionParsnip: How can I upgrade it.
[14:54] <zoite> oh wow natty
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> DDAZZA: ask in the Mint channel, your distro isn't supported here
[14:54] <zoite> I've traveled back in time :o
[14:54] <DDAZZA> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> !mint  | DDAZZA
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> DDAZZA: gives the mint channel nicely ^ :)
[14:55] <DDAZZA> Sorry,
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> DDAZZA: no harm done
[14:56] <plunky> Hello again. I have managed to get past the black screen after the ATI drivr installation but now I have no Unity...
[14:56] <alexGla> if i have $path looks like /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory. how can i rid of the last "no such file" ?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: did you add a folder to the path in ~/.bashrc ?
[14:57] <alexGla> ActionParsnip, no
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:59] <alexGla> ActionParsnip, lucid
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: ok, bit old but supported
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: let me see what I can find as the default
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> alexGla  tip: instead of struggling, first update to something newer
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> upgrade, rather
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: try:    export PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: are you running a desktop OS?
[15:01] <alexGla> ActionParsnip, yes
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: Lucid is EOL in April next year on the desktop, you may want to consider an upgrade soon
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: I just found online that you have the normal PATH variable for Lucid, try the command I gave, it may help. If so, we can put it in ~/.bashrc
[15:03] <alexGla> ActionParsnip, the command u gave didn't change path
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: try:     export PATH='/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games'
[15:04] <alexGla> still have this annoying "No such file"
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: did you add anything to ~/.bashrc ?
[15:05] <alexGla> ActionParsnip, the same result. no i didn;t add
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: can you run:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; env | pastebinit      what is output please?
[15:08] <zuizui> why is so many people in here?
[15:08] <zuizui> and say nothing
[15:08] <alexGla> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/67AQSZ8y
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> zuizui  not all at their desks
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> zuizui: people join then idle, saves having to join then reoin later
[15:09] <x1sc0> How can I replace python3.2 with python3.3 ?
[15:09] <x1sc0> in ubuntu 12.10
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: looks ok, you can use the command 'file'  to make sure that all those folders exist
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> !info python3.3
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> x1sc0: just install it
[15:11] <x1sc0> ActionParsnip, well, i did it, but I still have python3.2 around, and if I do apt-get autoremove python3.2 it wants to remove update-manager among other packages
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> x1sc0: yes, if an app can use python 3.3, it will use it
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> x1sc0: why do you only want python 3.3?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> x1sc0: python is a massive part of your OS, I wouldn't mess with it unless you know what you  are doing?
[15:13] <x1sc0> ActionParsnip, right now when i do python3 it points to python3.2 I'd like it to point to python3.3 if possible
[15:14] <x1sc0> ActionParsnip, that's why i didn't do it ;)
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> x1sc0: python3 is just a symlink, so if you point it to the python you want to use, it will change. Again, be VERY careful
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> x1sc0: if you want to use python3.3 you could just use the binary absolutely, rather than using the abstracted 'python'
[15:16] <alexGla> ActionParsnip, all files exist in the path.
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: and what about the rest of the ones mentioned in the 'env' output?
[15:17] <SouravAJ> ok so i have to stop mysql and apache services in startup how?
[15:17] <jrib> SouravAJ: why?
[15:18] <SouravAJ> i just want it so
[15:18] <jrib> SouravAJ: forever?
[15:18] <SouravAJ> can u please tell me the way
[15:18] <SouravAJ> i want to run these type of services manually when i need it
[15:18] <SouravAJ> nah
[15:19] <jrib> SouravAJ: not forever... so only one time?
[15:19] <SouravAJ> yup
[15:19] <jrib> SouravAJ: erm, ok that's weird
[15:19] <SouravAJ> i just want to stop these services on boot
[15:19] <SouravAJ> kinda
[15:19] <alexGla> ActionParsnip, have tried      file /usr/share/gconf/gnome.mandatory.path   gave me an error ERROR: cannot open `/usr/share/gconf/gnome.mandatory.path' (No such file or directory)
[15:20] <Kiranvotio> which is best Music player for Xubuntu ?
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> Kiranvotio  depends on which you prefer
[15:20] <sgerbino> Does anyone know how to switch from the text bootup screen (says 'Ubuntu 12.10' with 4 dots) to the graphical one? This happens whenever I upgrade install of fresh installing.
[15:20] <jrib> SouravAJ: if it's an upstart job (mysql should be), use overrides as described in upstart's cookbook: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#override-files .  If it's still using an old sysvinit-style script (I believe apache2 still does), then install and use sysv-rc-conf (and stop it from running on run level 2).  You can tell a job is upstart-style if it has a .conf file in "/etc/init" (read closely, not
[15:20] <jrib> "/etc/init.d")
[15:21] <Kiranvotio> it must work fine
[15:21] <Kiranvotio> exaile is not working
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> Kiranvotio  try a few, then decide what player suits your needs best
[15:21] <Kiranvotio> rhythombox too it aint loads the music files MonkeyDust
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> Kiranvotio  you have my advice
[15:22] <Kiranvotio> yeah
[15:22] <SouravAJ> jrib: thanx i got it
[15:23] <diverdude> how do i see what filesystem a disk uses?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Kiranvotio: there is no single best, or the others would be abandoned as nobody would use the others, as one is best
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> diverdude  sudo blkid
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Kiranvotio: whay is the best music player for ANY OS? It simply doesn't exist
[15:23] <Kiranvotio> MonkeyDust when i logon to ubuntustudio it shows another popup stating that to choose session is there anyway to  avoid that step and logon to default session spontaneoulsy without selecting
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> Kiranvotio  that phrase is heard to read
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> hard
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Kiranvotio: all you will get are opinions, none are 'best' they are just the ones the people replyingprefer
[15:24] <Kiranvotio> ActionParsnip yeah you are correct  there are no ideal players
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Kiranvotio: so why ask like there is one?
[15:25] <Kiranvotio> MonkeyDust how to skip that "select session step ?
[15:25] <rootpt> i cant connect to webmin remotely, can some one help me?
[15:25] <rootpt> only localhost
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Kiranvotio: if you want a lightweight player then deadbeef is pretty good. VLC always gets great press, gnome-mplayer is pretty sweet too.
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> rootpt: webmin isn't advised or supported in Ubuntu
[15:26] <gentrilz> I am having some problems in ubuntu. Whenever I start it, it always shows an error . Anyone here know what to do ? http://i.imgur.com/ShVuW.png
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> !webmin | rootpt
[15:26] <Kiranvotio> i want the one which manages the collection
[15:26] <rootpt> ActionParsnip: do u know other softw?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | rootpt
[15:26] <Kiranvotio> ActionParnsip
[15:26] <rootpt> =)
[15:26] <rootpt> ActionParsnip: thanks
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> rootpt: why not just use ssh like every other admin uses
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> rootpt: not only is it secure, your skills will be transferrable between any server OS
[15:27] <rootpt> just trying webmin
[15:27] <rootpt> but its ok..
[15:27] <alexGla> ActionParsnip, why is it better to upgrade from ubuntu 10? It is stable version and has less bugs than newer ones.
[15:27] <rootpt> i understand u
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> rootpt: its not advised on Ubuntu or debian
[15:27] <rootpt> ok, i will stop and remove webmin
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: because after April, you won't get any support or updates
[15:27] <Kiranvotio> MonkeyDust is the Version 12.10 is buggy i always get a crash report
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: plus the packages in it are so very old now
[15:28] <alexGla> ActionParsnip, ok
[15:29] <user123abc> it's the last one to have gnome 2 though, isn't it?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> user123abc: supported, yes
[15:33] <MadsRC> Hi guys! Anyone know how to, with SED or AWK only capture/print text that is connected with dots? Like this string: this.is.a.string ?
[15:34] <cuddylier> I just realised nothing can access my mysql database anymore, it says cannot connect, why would this be?
[15:34] <cuddylier> I did set it to be remote
[15:34] <sgerbino> Anyone know how I can restore graphic Plymouth logo at bootup rather than my ugly text after upgrading to 12.10?
[15:34] <blackshirt> cuddylier, is it running ?
[15:34] <cuddylier> How do I check?
[15:34] <cuddylier> I was able to type mysql commands
[15:35] <blackshirt> cuddylier, thats not mean your server was running
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> MadsRC: http://snipplr.com/view/35449/extract-ip-addresses-from-apache-access-log/
[15:36] <MadsRC> Thanks ActionParsnip, I'll try to work that into something I can use :)
[15:36] <Kiranvotio> have you installed ubuntustudio plymouth or any other plymouth thems ?
 have you installed ubuntustudio plymouth or any other plymouth thems ?
[15:37] <sgerbino> no I have not
[15:37] <maslo> hi guys how would I stop my server from displaying mail -n after the motd ? :X
[15:37] <blackshirt> cuddylier, check with ps or top or others tool
[15:37] <cuddylier> blackshirt How do I check if it's running?
[15:37] <cuddylier> Ah, k
[15:37] <sgerbino> Kiranvotio: just the stock plymouth from my fresh 12.04 install, now upgraded to 12.10 and I reverted to the text
[15:37] <blackshirt> cuddylier, ps aux | grep mysqld
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: sudo service mysqld status
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> doesn't need sudo, but no harm done
[15:39] <maslo> because i was able to remove the motd and last login info and I set a custom dynamic motd but I can't get the mail -n not to show up before  it
[15:39] <cuddylier> ActionParsnip http://puu.sh/1raXG
[15:39] <cuddylier> http://puu.sh/1raY5
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: you can pastebin text, bit lighter than an image
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: seems to be running
[15:40] <cuddylier> How do I copy text on ssh, ctrl + c?
[15:40] <cuddylier> Any other ideas then? :(
[15:40] <Kiranvotio> try this sudo update-alternatives --set default.plymouth /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth
[15:40] <sgerbino> cuddlier: shift ctrl c i believe
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: CTRL+SHIFT+C
[15:41] <cuddylier> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/W0Qrg7id
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: if you are using putty, then as soon as you let go of the mouse, the selected text is on the clipoard
[15:41] <Kiranvotio> sgerbino sudo update-alternatives --set default.plymouth /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth'
[15:41] <sgerbino> Kiranvotio: ok I'll try that and give it a reboot
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: you are root, you don't need sudo
[15:41] <sgerbino> brb :D
[15:41] <cuddylier> k
[15:41] <FlyOnZeWall> cuddylier, copy text?
[15:41] <Kiranvotio> sgerbino or reinstall the plymouth thingy it may works
[15:41] <FlyOnZeWall> in putty?
[15:42] <cuddylier> Yes, but they told me
[15:42] <FlyOnZeWall> oh nvm
[15:42] <FlyOnZeWall> ActionParsnip beat me to it
[15:42] <cuddylier> Actionparsnip Would that even make a difference though?
[15:42] <sgerbino> Kiranvotio: sudo apt-get remove plymouth && sudo apt-get install plymouth?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: try:
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[15:42] <cuddylier> Same error
[15:42] <Kiranvotio> do it from synaptic
[15:42] <sgerbino> fair enough will do
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: it doesn't make a difference, just an FYI. If you are root you have all the access you need, so sudo isn't needed
[15:42] <sgerbino> thanks ill try now
[15:42] <cuddylier> What's that?
[15:43] <cuddylier> Ah...nvm
[15:43] <Kiranvotio> sgerbino do it using synapptic
[15:43] <cuddylier> For some reason it must have made itself local or something?
[15:43] <cuddylier> Actually, even local applications can't connect
[15:43] <cuddylier> Actually, ignore that lol
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: could try:   sudo apt-get --reinstall install plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo
[15:44] <cuddylier> What is that ActionParsnip? Some logo?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: its te default ubuntu logo splash for plymouth
[15:44] <cuddylier> Is that not a gui?
[15:44] <cuddylier> no lol
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: its a splash for plymouth, when the OS starts booting, so you get a pretty thing to look at while the OS starts up.
[15:46] <cuddylier> ActionParsnip Does that help with my issue though?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: no idea, you started going on about plymouth......
[15:46] <cuddylier> No I didn't
[15:47] <cuddylier> Someone else must have
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: ahh yes, my mistake, sorry
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: you could have a command in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line to stop the process I guess
[15:48] <cuddylier> ActionParsnip Got the database working! But it's only accessiable locally...how do I change that?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: not sure there, could try in  #mysql  if it is mysql
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: can the clients ping the server?
[15:49] <cuddylier> Anyone else know how to make my mysql accessible remotely?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/remotemysql.htm
[15:49] <cuddylier> ty
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=remote+access+mysql    source
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: have you tried that?
[15:50] <cuddylier> nope
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: so you didn't search the web first?
[15:50] <cuddylier> No, I'm sorry :(
[15:50] <cuddylier> I only found that out
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: be fair
[15:50] <cuddylier> A minute ago
[15:57] <labcoattech> hi all
[15:58] <Kiranvotio> hi labcoattech
[15:58] <labcoattech> I used Grub Customizer to make windows 7 the default os on a dualboot system with Ubuntu 12.10, now the option for windows 7 is missing, can anyone please help
[15:58] <sgerbino> Kiranvotio: thanks for your help, i tried update-alternatives and reinstall plymouth -- no dice. Then I found and tried this script 'fixplymouth' and it's back :D
[15:59] <dr_willis> best fix for plymouth i find is ti just disable it. ;)
[15:59] <Kiranvotio> ohh :) sgerbino
[15:59] <sgerbino> lol dr_willis :D
[16:00] <ignerous> how do i run java as root
[16:00] <cuddylier> Is there no way I can allow everyone without having to whitelist certain IPs to removely connect to my mysql? All the tutorials I find make me whitelist certain IPs
[16:00] <dr_willis> labcoattech:  check out your grub configs and the output of /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober  to see if its detecting windows.  sudo update-grub may have it rescan/set up windows back on the menus
[16:01] <bekks> cuddylier: Setup iptables to filter out certain IPs.
[16:01] <dr_willis> cuddylier:  its normally practice. block everything, allow only friends to enter.  ;)
[16:02] <labcoattech> update-grub only found
[16:02] <cuddylier> dr_willis I want to allow everyone though
[16:02] <cuddylier> dr_willis *
[16:02] <labcoattech> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-18-generic
[16:02] <labcoattech> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-18-generic
[16:02] <labcoattech> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-17-generic
[16:02] <labcoattech> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-17-generic
[16:02] <labcoattech> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[16:02] <FloodBot1> labcoattech: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <cyd> jo wassab jo?
[16:03] <dr_willis> labcoattech:  check that /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober is executable and see if you can run it and see what output it gives
[16:03] <cuddylier> Is there a way to allow localhost access as well as remote access?
[16:03] <labcoattech> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1365248/
[16:03] <bekks> cuddylier: Sure. Allow remote access, and localhost access will work, too.
[16:03] <dr_willis> I imagine mysql has some settings soemwhere cuddylier for what ips to allow.
[16:03] <Sach> Is Ubuntu 12.10 an LTS version or not yet?
[16:03] <labcoattech> sorry I am new to linux
[16:04] <cuddylier> bekks Even when I bind mysql to a certain IP?
[16:04] <dr_willis>  #mysql may knwo more perhaps.
[16:04] <cuddylier> good idea :P
[16:04] <bekks> cuddylier: Binding it to an IP allow remote access.
[16:04] <D|nA> Sach: 12.10 releease will never be lts
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> Sach  12.04 is LTS, 14.04 will be the next
[16:05] <adrianazzy> esto q pedo
[16:05] <adrianazzy> q pinche pedo
[16:05] <labcoattech> the results from update-grub was http://paste.ubuntu.com/1365248/
[16:05] <adrianazzy> esto pa q sirve
[16:05] <Sach> MonkeyDust: To upgrade from 10.04, do I have to go through all the versions to get to 12.04 or can I jump straight to 12.04 through a terminal command?
[16:05] <adrianazzy> q pedo
[16:06] <adrianazzy> me confunde todo esto
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> Sach  dunno, i fresh install each time
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> !es
 no you can upgrade to 12.04 direclty
[16:06] <Sach> Kiranvotio: Do you know what command I neeed?
[16:07] <bekks> Sach: do-release-upgrade
[16:07] <Sach> bekks: but how do I specify that I want 12.04?
[16:07] <dr_willis> labcoattech:  looks like its not seeing the windows install at all.. OR  the /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober is not executable so its not running. try running  /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[16:07] <adrianazzy> aaaaaaaa
[16:07] <labcoattech> how do i run it?
 why to go for command just update manager is enough to do it
[16:08] <dr_willis> labcoattech:  /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[16:08] <Sach> Kiranvotio: yes, but update manager makes me go through 11.10 before I can get to 12.04.  I want to bypass 11.10.
[16:09] <bekks> Sach: Then you are on 11.04, correct?
[16:09] <Sach> bekks: yes
[16:09] <bekks> Sach: Then you cant update to 12.04 directly, since 11.04 is no LTS.
[16:10] <labcoattech> getting command not found when I type 30_os-prober in the grub.d directory
[16:10] <Sach> bekks: but update manager prompts me to upgrade to 11.10
[16:10] <bekks> Sach: Using 10.04, you could update to 12.04, because 10.04 (and 12.04) is a LTS.
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Sach: you'll need to upgrade to 11.10, then to 12.04.  Or you can clean install the release you desire and restore your user data from backup
  in software sources you need to change the option under the tab updates
[16:10] <bekks> Sach: You cannot update to 12.04 directly. You have to update to 11.10 first.
[16:10] <bekks> Kiranvotio: That wont change a thing.
 set it to lon term supports only then you can upgrade the system to 12.04
[16:11] <Kiranvotio> update
[16:11] <bekks> Kiranvotio: Ignoring intermediate release is just not supported.
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> Sach  backup and fresh install may be faster and more efficient
[16:11] <labcoattech> dr_willis: getting command not found when I type 30_os-prober in the grub.d directory
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Sach: and cleaner
[16:12] <dr_willis> labcoattech:  use the full path [16:12] <labcoattech> thanks
[16:12] <dr_willis> labcoattech:  also use ls -l to see if its excecutable or not
[16:13] <labcoattech> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1365274/
 just reload in theupdate manager that would flags the 12.04 upgrade
[16:15] <marcappuccino> hello
 hello
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> Kiranvotio  better use TAB to autocomplete nicks
[16:18] <dr_willis> labcoattech:  id check whatever tool you used to tweak your grub. it may have turned off the os-prober somehow. it seems to be seeing windows.  make sure the 20_osprober file is excutable and try sudo update-grub
[16:18] <Kiranvotio> ok MonkeyDust
[16:18] <marcappuccino> Does asterisks work (*) like in bash for autocomplete?
[16:19] <dr_willis> ls foo*
[16:19] <marcappuccino> Kir*
[16:19] <dr_willis> :)  the shell expands the * befor the ls command sees the information
[16:19] <marcappuccino> No then
[16:19] <marcappuccino> Yeah jjust wanted to check in IRC
[16:19] <dr_willis> so im not clear on what you are  asking. ;)
[16:20] <marcappuccino> I said 'No then' just after you said your first comment, as a reply to myself because I did not see yous ;)
[16:20] <WeThePeople> hi
[16:22] <kronk> Hi, is there a way to create a bootable iso usb stick without using unetbootin?
[16:22] <kronk> fmor Ubuntu 12.10
[16:22] <kronk> *from
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> labcoattech: have you tried removing old kernels?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> kronk: sure, use the usb-creator app
[16:22] <MrNorm> Hi all! I'm experiencing slowness (100kb max) on my network interface on Ubuntu 12.10. I'm a little lost as to what I need to do to fix the issue. Any ideas?
[16:23] <WeThePeople> just sayin Hi
[16:23] <kronk> ActionParsnip, E: Unable to locate package usb-creator
[16:23] <eter_surfer> hello! should i move my stuff before upgrading system
[16:23] <labcoattech> I used grub customizer to select windows 7 as the default os, clicked save, restart and now windows 7 is nolonger in the grub menu
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[16:23] <ActionParsnip> kronk: its in a default install, search dash for it
[16:24] <kronk> ActionParsnip, that app only does ubuntu iso's ?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/sysctl; cat ./sysctl | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf > /dev/null; sudo sysctl -p
 yeah what else you want ?
[16:24] <BurningPants> you can use dd from terminal to make bootable usb
[16:25] <kronk> Kiranvotio, I need to burn an ISO for another distro
[16:25] <kronk> without unetbootin
[16:25] <Kiranvotio> wait
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> kronk: it does others. As BurningPants says, you can use dd to make a bootable uSB / SD card but it won'y have the option of persistence (if you need it)
[16:25] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip
[16:25] <MrNorm> Oops
[16:26] <kronk> ActionParsnip, it doesn't do the fedora 17 iso that I have
[16:26] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip: thanks, I've applied and I'm bouncing the box now
 logon wondows os you'll have a lot of otptions
[16:26] <Kiranvotio> options
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: should add more memory to networking, makes thinsg a bit better
[16:26] <BurningPants> but you could create a storage partition for data persistence
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> kronk: try usb-creator-gtk
[16:26] <kronk> Kiranvotio, I'm asking for a way to write a fedora 17 iso to usb from ubuntu 12.10
[16:27] <kronk> ActionParsnip, that's the same application
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> kronk: it's not
[16:27] <kronk> ActionParsnip, in that case, I couldn't find the original app you anmed
[16:27] <kronk> *named
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> kronk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1365314/
 i am waiting for someome to answeer your query
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> kronk: why are they completely different versions if they are the same app?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> kronk: how is that possible, let alone concievable?
[16:28] <kronk> ActionParsnip, usb-creator-gtk only does Ubuntu iso's
[16:28] <kronk> ActionParsnip, what other application could I use?
[16:29] <eter_surfer> i'm waiting for someone to answer mine :) should i move my stuff to another partition before upgrading ubuntu?
[16:29] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip The new sysctl didn't do the trick unfortunately. I can get files from the server at about 9MB/s, but sending files to the server / downloading files on the server usually hits a hall at 100K/s. That new config added 40K/s to the overall speed, but it's not quite there.
[16:29] <kronk> ActionParsnip,  I would use unetbootin but it doesn't support fedora 17
[16:29] <kronk> not the one from the repo anyway
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: also try disabling ipv6
[16:29] <kronk> and the one from sourceforge has a bug stopping it from working
[16:29] <abailarri> Anyone can help me? Filezilla not connecting. I have ubuntu12.04
[16:29] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip what's weird is that SABNZBd can do 2.2MB/s over the interet using the same connection.. Which is odd
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> kronk: if you tell it to use the ISO, does it give an error?
[16:30] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip already disabled it to help troubleshoot
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network      what network chip are you using?
[16:30] <kronk> ActionParsnip, unetbootin doesn't start (the one from sourceforge) no error and unetbootin just doesn't haev fedora 17 in it's supported list
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> kronk: it doesn't need to be in the list
[16:31] <m1rach4n> eter_surfer: no, you should always backup (copy, not move) to a offline medium
[16:31] <kronk> ActionParsnip, it asks me to select a distro name from the list. What do I select?
[16:31] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip: Output from that command: http://pastebin.com/S1YVrGSQ
[16:31] <kronk> ActionParsnip, it asks me to select a distro name from the list. What do I select?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> kronk: check the site for compatibility, i its ok then manually download the ISO,MD5 test it then tell unetbootin to use that
[16:31] <kronk> ActionParsnip, I don't know what option to select
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> kronk: none, look a little further down, see the ISO bit, use that
[16:31] <kronk> right
[16:31] <kronk> let me see
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> kronk: so the 'list' is nothing
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> kronk: you have the ISO, you tell unetbootin to use that....
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> kronk: did you even see that option? The app is childishly simple
[16:33] <eter_surfer> m1rach4n: thanks
[16:33] <kronk> ActionParsnip, I know see that you can bypass the list
[16:33] <kronk> thanks
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> kronk: reading is good
[16:33] <m1rach4n> I usually dd the iso... since my boards can recognize it...
[16:33] <kronk> ActionParsnip, it's easy to miss something
[16:33] <abailarri> Anyone can help me? Filezilla not connecting. I have ubuntu12.04
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> kronk: before making choices and judgements, read al the available detail, then jump
[16:34] <kronk> ActionParsnip, it is easy to overlook details sometimes. I am only Human
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> abailarri: can you connect to localhost from the server itself?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> kronk: hence my advice ;)
[16:34] <kronk> ActionParsnip, I'm sure you're perfect
[16:34] <kronk> and will never make a mistake
[16:35] <hitesa> hi
[16:35] <m1rach4n> abailarri: have you tried another server?
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> kronk: didn't say I didn't. I'm advising how you can avoid them more frequently
[16:35] <hitesa> are there any IT consulting companys in the USA, firms that sell you to big companys and pays you bad (outsourcing)
[16:35] <MrNorm> Anyone had a chance to look at the paste? :)
[16:35] <hitesa> are there any IT consulting companys in the USA, firms that sell you to big companys and pays you bad (outsourcing)?
[16:36] <kronk> ActionParsnip, it's possible to read something indepth and still make a mistake
[16:36] <abailarri> m1rach4n, Yes, and does not connect to none
[16:36] <kronk> because of inbuilt assumptions
[16:36] <eter_surfer> thats an idea, i was sick thinking about browsing whole file system. thx again
[16:36] <kronk> I'm not  a moron
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> kronk: well, it seems you missed the info, reading the whole app shows you can use an ISO. Rather than just seeing the first drop down and not seeing what you expect
[16:37] <kronk> ActionParsnip, correct. It's still possible to make a mistake even when you are well informed. Please stop being a dick
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> kronk: just a friendly advise, not being a dick at all.
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: if you run:  ifconfig; lsb_release -a      what is output please?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> !volunteers | kronk
[16:41] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip sure: http://pastebin.com/2W5AXyDm :)
[16:41] <kronk> BlueEagle, volunteer or not, there's no need to be rude to someone by telling them to RTM.
[16:41] <kronk> BluesKaj, ^
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: you have a 10% error packets recieved.
[16:42] <MrNorm> I saw that as I posted the link. That can't be good
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: tried a different cable, or port on the router / switch?
[16:42] <MrNorm> I wonder why I can download from the server so quickly then? It's just uploads to the server that I seem to have issues with :/
[16:42] <m1rach4n> abailarri: firewall checked?
[16:42] <MrNorm> I can try one , I have a few cables
[16:43] <BluesKaj> kronk, he wasn't rude ..he was giving you good advice ..take it or leave it , that's up to you .
[16:43] <abailarri> m1rach4n, I don't have firewall activated
[16:43] <bazhang> BluesKaj, he's gone. lets move on
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: is it 100Mb ethernet?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> yeah bazhang , just noticed , no need to move on if he's gone :)
[16:44] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip the cabling? I think it's standard cat 5e to a 1gbps switch. Never had issues with the cabling in the past
[16:44] <m1rach4n> abailarri: then show the log :)
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: is the router 1Gbps too?
[16:44] <abailarri> m1rach4n, the log in filezilla?
[16:45] <MrNorm> The router isn't, but the switch is separate and network transfers are happening internally. Both devices are on the 1Gbps switch.
[16:45] <abailarri> m1rach4n, only says it can not connect
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: try:  sudo apt-get install ethtool; sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full
[16:45] <food12> hello i got when tried to install teamviewer on my 12.10 64 bit. It gave me error libwin.dll.so . So i try to remove the old on by dpkg -r teamviewer but not removed . And i again download the latest 64bit now it ask to install billions of 32bit dependency. I decide to not install teamviewer so how can clean the repos pls?
[16:46] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip OK, done. I'm assuming that's forced the card into a particular state?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: may help
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: its active immediately :)
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: sudo lshw -C network     will show the state
[16:47] <willi44> hi, I lost my sound system on my lenovo X121e, when I attached it via HDMI on a TV. How can I reactivate it ?
[16:47] <inhies> any idea why the battery meter on my lapto is only accurate right after boot, and then fails to update the rest of the time the computer is on?
[16:48] <m1rach4n> abailarri: yea, and the lines before "Error:	Could not connect to server" ?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> willi44: use the sound app in dash, check the output device
[16:48] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip thanks, but it hasn't worked :( http://cl.ly/image/1o0e3O2Z343f .. I'm sending a file over SSH in transmit with the same results. SMB transfers are pants too
[16:48] <Kiranovotio> my wireless device is not working
[16:49] <MrNorm> Well that's not the screenshot I hoped for!
[16:49] <willi44> there is is a dummy now !
[16:49] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip .. anyway, it was uploading at 100Kb/s again
[16:49] <labcoattech> does anyone know of any software that can help me add windows 7 back to the grub boot menu
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: so we're ok now?
[16:50] <mibbit32434> hi
[16:50] <abailarri> Status: Waiting to retry ...
[16:50] <abailarri> Status: Resolving address www.burujabetech.net
[16:50] <abailarri> Error: Connection timed...
[16:50] <inhies> labcoattech: have you tried just runing update-grub? thats all i had to do
[16:50] <abailarri> m1rach4n,
[16:50] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip I'm afraid not. Transfers going into the server are still slow. Downloading from the server are still fine!
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> labcoattech: what is the output of:   sudo update-grub; dpkg -l | grep linux-image; uname -a
[16:50] <labcoattech> inhies: tried that did not work
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> labcoattech: please use a pastebin to host
[16:51] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip I find it strange that some apps like SABNZBd can also download at my 2.2MBps (maxing out our internet connection), but a standard wget only downloads at 100Kbps.
[16:51] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip internal transfers can download from the server fine, but uploads to the server are so slow :(
[16:51] <food12> dpkg failed to install teamviewer on 64 for its many dependency. I don't want to run apt-get -f install . How can i clean it please?
[16:51] <g3orge> guys. what is the default method that ubuntu is using to get installed on Macbook pros?? EFI/bios?? grub/syslinux?
[16:52] <labcoattech> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1365388/
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> MrNorm: i'd try a new cable, try a different port
[16:52] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip: I'll do that now. Brb!
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> labcoattech: hmm, weird
[16:54] <Flyzoola> hey guys, I got a question. I FINALLY got a CD-ROM drive (or burner, either way) so I can do a fresh install of ubuntu, but my computer, inside the OS, doesn't recognize it. I went to disk utility and it confirms that it's plugged, but it tells me on the SMART status "Not Supported." Is there any way fix this?
[16:54] <labcoattech> thinking it might be easier to use windows 7 install disc and restore the windows boot manager
[16:54] <mibbit32434> hi all. I want to install ubuntu onto an existing partition, but when I select the partition that I want to use it asks me to enter a size for the partition. the size that's filled in by default doesn't correspond with the partition size that's in the partition table. the size in the dialog is 1 MB larger. how do I know what size the partition really is?
[16:55] <Flyzoola> mibbit, you can find partition information on the Disk Utility app :)
[16:55] <food12> dpkg -r teamviewer does not work for me ... Please help me . Without cleaning it i can't install anything using apt-get
[16:55] <m1rach4n> abailarri: tried other clients? I can connect to it...
[16:55] <Flyzoola> mibbit32434, disk utility will tell you what your disks are, and their size.
[16:55] <jrib> food12: pastebin what happens
[16:56] <diverdude> how do i make a public share from an ext4 mount?
[16:56] <mibbit32434> what is "disk utility" the partitioner in the installation wizard?
[16:56] <cantoma> hey guys, when i plug my headphones only one side is playing sound. I have tried with two different headphones and both work well on other devices (ipod, stereo, ...). Does any of you has any idea of what is could be causing it?
[16:56] <bekks> diverdude: By sharing it using a file sharing protocol liek NFS or CIFS.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> labcoattech: if you can get someone who dual boots to see what files the WIndows OS is in (probably /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober)
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> labcoattech: http://askubuntu.com/questions/110698/add-windows-to-my-boot-menu
[16:57] <MrNorm> ActionParsnip new cable, new port.. No change :( .. Could it be something weird with the card I'm using? I'm considering going out and buying a new card.
[16:58] <tonyyarusso> Anyone familiar with persistently defining static routes in Ubuntu?  I have two interfaces with the same network, but need to make sure the routes out are only on one.
[16:58] <Flyzoola> mibbit32434, when you boot up a live USB it'll give you the option to try out ubuntu, or install it. Choose to try it out, and the disk utility should be under the "system" menu on the top taskbar (for me) or on the software search
[16:58] <mibbit32434> ok, thanks for the help. I guess I'll figure it out
[16:58] <labcoattech> ActionParsnip: this is the output of 30_os-prober http://paste.ubuntu.com/1365274/
[16:58] <beaky> hello
[16:58] <bjrohan> Helllppp. For a few weeks i have been recording my desktop with RecordMyDesktop, all has been fine. Today I did a recording and I do not have audio. When I open up Pulse Audio, I get  a response from my webcam  on the input devices. Where may the connection be broken, and how do I remedy it?
[16:58] <mibbit32434> Flyzoola: I see, thanks
[16:58] <beaky> how do I get vbox guest additions installed in ubuntu?
[16:58] <abailarri> m1rach4n, sometimes connects.
[16:59] <beaky> I tried the virtualbox-guest-additions package and the 'install guest additions' option, but I'm still stuck with a tiny guest :(
[16:59] <bekks> beaky: By pressing Host+d in the vbox guest window, and mounting and installing the additions - as described in the vbox manual.
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> beaky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777759
[17:00] <Flyzoola> hey guys, I got a question. I FINALLY got a CD-ROM drive (or burner, either way) so I can do a fresh install of ubuntu, but my computer, inside the OS, doesn't recognize it. I went to disk utility and it confirms that it's plugged, but it tells me on the SMART status "Not Supported." Is there any way fix this?
[17:00] <jrib> food12: do you understand?
[17:00] <beaky> ah
[17:00] <food12> jrib, yeah, Pasting it
[17:01] <m1rach4n> Flyzoola: what's your current OS?
[17:02] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip: Any suggestions as to why for weeks I was able to use recordmy desktop and have audio, this morning I try and I get no audio. In PulseAudio, my webcam is registering, and I can play other audio through my speakers
[17:02] <Flyzoola> m1rach4n, 10.04 LST. I know "it's only supported for another 6 months" and whatnot, but it's the best I can do in my current situation (BIOS doesn't support USB booting, no floppy or optical drive)
[17:02] <beaky> it says the headers for the current running kernel were not found
[17:02] <beaky> I am using version 12.10 :D
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> bjrohan: not something I ever used
[17:02] <bekks> beaky: Then install them, it tells you even how to do it.
[17:03] <Flyzoola> m1rach4n, so I downloaded 11.04 in hopes of burning it and fresh installing it, but the optical dive I got isn't "supported" according to disk utility
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: Natty is EOL
[17:03] <beaky> ah right
[17:03] <Flyzoola> ActionParsnip: in english?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: dead, no support or updates
[17:04] <bazhang> !eolupgrades |flyzoola
[17:04] <Guest52493> hi, i ran exactly into this issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/choose-mirror/+bug/1031696 does anybody know how to solve it?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: imagine phoning Microsoft support for Windows 95 support, wanting updates
[17:04] <bazhang> Flyzoola, get a supported release
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: same deal
[17:04] <food12> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1365421/
[17:04] <Flyzoola> You guys are hysterical.
[17:04] <demosfere> Can someone help me? i'm having problems when building this recipe https://code.launchpad.net/~kedos-project/+recipe/bottomlauncher-daily , it gives me error No package 'dbusmenu-glib-0.4' found No package 'dbusmenu-gtk3-0.4' found , this is my buildlog : https://launchpadlibrarian.net/123265587/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-amd64.bottomlauncher_0.2.0-0-1~5~raring1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> Flyzoola  they are just facts
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: Grab Precise (Ubuntu 12.04) and you will have support til 2017
[17:05] <willi44> thanks !
[17:05] <m1rach4n> Flyzoola: SMART status is irrelevant BTW
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> demosfere: if you are using raring, you are in the wrong channel
[17:06] <Flyzoola> my version of ubuntu IS supported until next april
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: yes, but Natty isn't
[17:06] <dursun> hello
[17:06] <jrib> food12: so what happens with dpkg -r?
[17:07] <Flyzoola> irrelevant, because I'm asking about my CURRENT version of ubuntu
[17:07] <jrib> Flyzoola: what's your version of ubuntu?
[17:07] <bekks> Flyzoola: 11.04 isnt supported anymore.
[17:07] <demosfere> ActionParsnip: i use precise and quantal too!
[17:07] <Flyzoola> 10.04
[17:07] <Flyzoola> LST
[17:07] <bekks> Flyzoola: LTS, btw ;)
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> demosfere: your issue is with raring, as your link suggests.
[17:07] <Flyzoola> yes, I was thinking of a growing technique..
[17:07] <food12> jrib, perhaps i don't how to use it to remove the teamviewer. Please help me
[17:07] <jrib> Flyzoola: so what's your issue with it?
[17:07] <aaas> how can i specify a time to activate suspend/hibernate if idle N minutes?
[17:08] <jrib> food12: oh, I didn't scroll down all the way, one sec.
[17:08] <jpmh> I would like to remove the "print to file" option when printing is selected - how do I do that
[17:08] <Flyzoola> jrib, it won't detect my optical drive
[17:08] <jrib> food12: do this: sudo dpkg -r teamviewer7
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> demosfere: yes, your link has raring all through it
[17:08] <demosfere> ActionParsnip: precise buildlog https://code.launchpad.net/~kedos-project/+archive/bottomlauncher-test/+build/3990766
[17:08] <jrib> Flyzoola: does it work in other operating systems?  Do you see it in your bios?
[17:08] <HellBoy> hello !
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> demosfere: https://code.launchpad.net/~kedos-project/+archive/bottomlauncher-test    read the description........
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> demosfere: not give you any clues why its not going smoothly?
[17:09] <beaky> it works! thanks guys
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> demosfere: I suggest you contact the PPA maintainer. We cannot support PPAs here
[17:09] <demosfere> ActionParsnip: this is my PPA
[17:10] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip: is awesome
[17:10] <Flyzoola> jrib, I don't have any other OS's or working PC's. If you recall, a week ago Ubuntu left me in a very crappy situation that I'm still fighting with. Disk utility recognizes it, but it wont give me write cache, serial number and stuff like that. When I put in a blank cd, it wont run it/recongnize it.
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> bjrohan: thanks
[17:10] <aguadito> FlyOnZeWall,  may as well just go with Windows instead of Winbuntu
[17:10] <bekks> Flyzoola: So whats the output of "sudo smartctl -a"?
[17:11] <demosfere> ActionParsnip: this is my PPA , and i can't built it
[17:11] <Flyzoola> bekks, command not found
[17:11] <bfortified> k what am i doing wrong? trying to rsync over ssh I have a key can log in and everytime i try to rsync I get prompted for password and then booted when i use the pw "rsync -avz -e "ssh -i /home/bfortified/.ssh/id_rsa" bfortfied@192.168.1.10:/share/Media/Music/LisaMusic /home/bfortified/Music/"
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> demosfere: then I'd ask in #ubuntu-devs
[17:11] <pradeep> hello room
[17:11] <bekks> Flyzoola: Then you have to install the smartmon-tools
[17:11] <pradeep> how is everyone doing today
[17:12] <Flyzoola> bekks, package manager???
[17:12] <Flyzoola> aguadito, thanks for your not-so-good advice. I'll keep in on the back of my head.
[17:12] <bekks> Flyzoola: ?
[17:13] <Flyzoola> bekks, how? Through the package manager? Unlike most people who try linux, I'm using it not because of "security" or whatever, but simply because it works on my crappy old rig.
[17:13] <bekks> Flyzoola: Yes, packages are installed using the package manager.
[17:13] <wolfmitchell> Why is it that this happens:
[17:13] <wolfmitchell> mitchell@derp:~/steam$ ls
[17:13] <wolfmitchell> hldsupdatetool.bin
[17:13] <wolfmitchell> mitchell@derp:~/steam$ ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[17:13] <wolfmitchell> -bash: ./hldsupdatetool.bin: No such file or directory
[17:13] <FloodBot1> wolfmitchell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:13] <wolfmitchell> mmk
[17:13] <jrib> wolfmitchell: what ubuntu version?
[17:14] <wolfmitchell> 12.04.1LTS
[17:14] <demosfere> ActionParsnip: it's empty channel
[17:14] <wolfmitchell> according to /etc/motd
[17:14] <Flyzoola> bekks, can you give me a terminal command to install smartmon-tools??
[17:14] <wolfmitchell> (over ssh, ubuntu server I believe)
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> demosfere: try #ubuntu-devel
[17:14] <jrib> wolfmitchell: 64bit?
[17:15] <wolfmitchell> Yes
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: chmod +x ./hldsupdatetool.bin; sudo ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[17:15] <wolfmitchell> It does have +x
[17:15] <jrib> wolfmitchell: install lib32gcc1
[17:15] <wolfmitchell> Ok
[17:16] <wolfmitchell> yup, works
[17:16] <rusfus> Hi, I have a little problem on xubuntu. I just installed my printer, Canon PIXMA iP2000, but it is as if the system does not recognize it. give the go ahead for printing, and I leave the process up to tell me that the printer is not connected. How can I solve this hitch??
[17:17] <bazhang> rusfus, what does linuxprinting.org say about that printer
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: so it needed making executable ;)
[17:17] <bazhang> rusfus, check their database is the first step
[17:17] <wolfmitchell> ActionParsnip, nope, lib32gcc1
[17:17] <wolfmitchell> It was already executable
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: how do you mean?
[17:17] <wolfmitchell> I did chmod a+x hldsupdatetool.bin #Once I downloaded it
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: you can't ust name'lib32gcc1' and expect an intelligent reply
[17:18] <rusfus> bazhang how do I?
[17:18] <wolfmitchell> ....
[17:18] <wolfmitchell> I did apt-get install lib32gcc1
[17:18] <Flyzoola> bekks, ok I got an output from sudo smartctl -a but tells me "ERROR: smartctl requires a device name as the final command-line argument."
[17:18] <jrib> wolfmitchell: maybe you just needed libc6-i386 .  I'm not sure.  If you are curious, try removing lib32gcc1 and see if it still works if you have libc6-i386 :)
[17:18] <wolfmitchell> as jrib said
[17:18] <wolfmitchell> jrib, too late now, it works ;D
[17:18] <wolfmitchell> don't want to break it
[17:18] <bazhang> rusfus, go to the website, choose from the menu, look at what it says about your printer
[17:18] <jrib> ok, but I was curious :(
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> !find lib32gcc
[17:19] <rusfus> bazhang ok
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> !info smartctl
[17:19] <NFisher> Hi all! i recently installed "unclutter". now its starting on system-startup automatically. How can i deactivate it?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: why not just install smartmontools?
[17:19] <jrib> NFisher: pastebin: dpkg -L unclutter
[17:19] <NFisher> i dont wannt to "kill" it every time i reboot
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> NFisher: is it listed in the startup app listed in dash?
[17:20] <SuperEngineer> Q/ can I force a vidoe mode in Ubunty?
[17:20] <Flyzoola> Can someone please direct me in the way to find a solution to my problem?
[17:20] <wolfmitchell> ActionParsnip, idk
[17:20] <NFisher> ActionParsnip, it is not.
[17:20] <SuperEngineer> [reason: trying to fully use a KVM switch to swap pooter monitor & tv - doing this causes wrong video on pooter monitor but correct option not available]
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: its in that package....
[17:20] <jrib> NFisher: actually, just read /etc/default/unclutter .  Let me knof if you have any questions
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> NFisher: if you type:   sudo service      then hit TAB a few times, is it listed?
[17:20] <jrib> know even
[17:20] <shomon> hi, I was running updates and it updated my kernel to the newest, but now it has hung while configuring!
[17:20] <wolfmitchell> I just needed hldsupdatetool to work so I can start a tf2/garrysmod server
[17:21] <bekks> Flyzoola: Install the smartmon-tools package and run sudo smartctl -a, and pastebin the output please.
[17:21] <shomon> I'm scared to kill it in case it trashes my system
[17:21] <NFisher> jrib, http://pastebin.com/yEFVceGF
[17:21] <jrib> NFisher: /etc/default/unclutter should sort you out
[17:21] <NFisher> ActionParsnip, "Display all 3030 possibilities? (y or n)" :/
[17:22] <Flyzoola> bekks, http://pastebin.com/bH6ibtUA
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> NFisher:  after the word service, add a SPACE then hit TAB, you will see available services listed
[17:22] <bekks> Flyzoola: Then try sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda    -- if sda is your harddisk in question.
[17:23] <jrib> ActionParsnip: it's not a service
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> NFisher: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1365473/
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> jrib: ahh I see
[17:23] <demosfere> ActionParsnip: do you know any fix for my problem ?
[17:23] <Flyzoola> bekks, under volumes in disk utility  it doesn't read anything for "device" so I couldn't say which is which
[17:23] <jrib> ActionParsnip: it's started because of /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90unclutter but that reads (well-commented) configuration from /etc/default/unclutter
[17:23] <Flyzoola> oh wait, I think it's "sr0"
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> demosfere: I have no idea
[17:24] <bekks> Flyzoola: A cdrom device never provides SMART information.
[17:24] <NFisher> ActionParsnip, still the same
[17:24] <NFisher> ActionParsnip, im on 10.04
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> NFisher: jrib seems to know about this
[17:25] <NFisher> jrib, thanks, i guess this should do!
[17:25] <shomon> http://pastebin.com/A4gqCqGG here is what happened during the upgrade that seems to have hung while configuring the new kernel
[17:25] <shomon> how do I make sure it is done configuring?
[17:25] <NFisher> ActionParsnip, yeah i guess hes right :) thanks for the help!
[17:25] <demosfere> ActionParsnip: no answer in devel channel
[17:25] <Flyzoola> bekks, http://pastebin.com/SjNbbHeR
[17:26] <bazhang> demosfere, raring questions are in #ubuntu+1 not here
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> shomon: looks ok to me
[17:28] <ferronica> How to make top panel look like jupiter ?  elementaryOS luna Beta
[17:28] <bazhang> ferronica, ask in the elementary OS channel
[17:28] <wjtaylor> what app would I use to recalculate mp3 times? The full track is in the file, but the time is off due to vbr and the player cuts it off prematurely.
[17:29] <ferronica> bazhang: Oh ok :)
[17:30] <Flyzoola> all I want is to install a new copy of ubuntu grrr this is so gay
[17:32] <kodak> hello all
[17:33] <kodak> i have vlc bugging out on me, and even "sudo kill [pid]" doesnt work
[17:33] <m1rach4n> pkill -9 vlc
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> kodak: try:  kill -9 PID
[17:33] <kodak> what does the -9 do?
[17:33] <m1rach4n> SIGKILL
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> kodak: you only need sudo if the service doesn't belong to your user, which it will
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> kodak: so sudo isn't needed
[17:34] <kodak> ah, cool
[17:34] <kodak> but, sigkill doesnt tell me much im afraid >.<
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> kodak: kill -9 vlc
[17:35] <m1rach4n> kodak: then search it (＠゜▽゜@)ノ
[17:35] <fermulator> Hey All;  I've got Ubuntu 11.04 Server 32-bit running, with two network cards.  eth1=10/100Mbps_internalWebServer(VM), eth2=1Gbps_fileserver(HOST).  How can I ensure that the eth1 is dedicated to the web server only (via VM), and that eth2 (the better NIC) is used by default by all services? (i.e. I want eth2 to be my primary NIC) route tables and ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/dqh2fA0a
[17:35] <kodak> yay, answering questions with obscure answers
[17:37] <aguadito> m1rach4n,  i have to say that's the most obnoxious smiley face i've ever seen posted on irc
[17:37] <cuddylier> What is the best way to upgrade from java 6 to 7, is there a command?
[17:37] <kodak> kill -9 [pid] didnt quite do it though, ps aux | grep 'vlc' still shows the same pid's being used by vlc, but they are now <defunct>, but i still have the bar icons
[17:38] <sevenless> Question: how do you record sound from something on Ubuntu?
[17:39] <m1rach4n> aguadito: please redirect it to Japanese teenagers
[17:39] <kodak> how can i go one step further is kill -9 doesnt kill the process?
[17:39] <EndGame3984> Hello
[17:40] <kodak> if*
[17:41] <m1rach4n> kodak: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process
[17:42] <kodak> thanks m1rach4n
[17:45] <kodak> ok, i read the link you sent m1rach4n, it says that i either have to kill the parent, or if the parent it dead, it belongs to init, and init sends the wait signal every now and then to reap zombies
[17:45] <kodak> since i see the vlc icons still up in my status bar, i guess i have parents somwehere
[17:46] <kodak> so, how can i hunt zombie parents?
[17:49] <m1rach4n> kodak: just leave it, it's completely harmless.
[17:50] <kodak> not quite, i still cant open new movies, vlc stays black
[17:53] <diverdude> I have mounted a drive like this in fstab: UUID=0c4e3816-72ab-4cd3-bbcc-bb277eec814c /storage ext4 defaults,noatime 0 0   But i still cannot access it from other computers....do i somehow need to setup some nfs or something?
[17:53] <jrib> diverdude: does it get mounted to /storage/?
[17:54] <diverdude> jrib: yeah
[17:54] <jrib> diverdude: that's all fstab does
[17:54] <DANYAL> how to set bash prompt for all users?
[17:54] <DANYAL> in ubuntu
[17:54] <diverdude> jrib: okay...how can i then share it with my other machines?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> kodak: can you run:  ps -ef | grep vlc; lsb_release -a; uname -a     what is output. Please use a pastebin to hold the text
[17:55] <jrib> diverdude: samba, nfs, ssh, ...
[17:55] <diverdude> jrib: yeah ok...if i want to share with nfs
[17:55] <jrib> !nfs | diverdude
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: I recommend right click the mount point in nautilus and share it that way, simple and quick
[17:56] <jrib> DANYAL: well you can use /etc/bash.bashrc .  But keep in mind users can still set their own (and by default users' ~/.bashrc do define their own)
[17:56] <cuddylier> What is the best way to upgrade from java 6 to 7, is there a command?
[17:56] <diverdude> ActionParsnip: i have only terminal
[17:56] <jrib> !java | cuddylier
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: you can share using /etc/samba/smb.conf    if you want to use samba
[17:56] <kodak> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/rkW4AeaY
[17:56] <rejven> hi, is anyone willing to spare 5 min to help me with 12.10 and ati drivers, i cant make them to work, i am noob :(
[17:57] <jrib> !ati | rejven
[17:57] <diverdude> ActionParsnip: and samba is just as fast as nfs?
[17:57] <menda>  hi, I've got problem with installing new kernel 3.6.6 , could anyone help ?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> kodak: you need to reboot, the parent is the parent of ALL processes. So killing PID 1 will make the OS hang etc.
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> menda: how are you installing it, and why are you installing it and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:58] <kodak> ActionParsnip, that sounds like a pretty harmful problem with vlc(or is not vlc bugging)
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> kodak: possibly, did you use 'nohup' when you ran it?
[17:59] <menda> ActionParsnip: I've got currently installed Ubuntu 10.04 on USB stick and I want to install 3.6.6 kernel with RT patch (Real Time)
[17:59] <kodak> ActionParsnip, not that i know of, i just opened a movie like i always do
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> menda: miing kernels from other releases is not advised nor supported
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> kodak: ok thats good. You will need to reboot to kill the process
[18:00] <kodak> ActionParsnip, have you seen this problem? (im hoping you have a way to avoid it in the future)
[18:00] <menda> ActionParsnip: Ok, but it is the same problem with / without RT patch - I can't run newly installed kernel from USB stick
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> menda: how did you install the kernel?
[18:00] <menda> I've got some errors connected with USB
[18:00] <diverdude> ActionParsnip: hmm i dont have a file name /etc/exports Do i need to install something then or can i just create it?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> kodak: I've seen processes have a parent of 1
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: you'll need to install the samba package
[18:01] <menda> I used some tutorials from Internet , first "make menuconfig" then "make -j5" then "make modules_install install"
[18:01] <kodak> ActionParsnip, i take the hint ;) thanks for helping :)
[18:01] <m1rach4n> kodak: ehhhh... you tried to follow wikipedia's direction right?
[18:01] <diverdude> ActionParsnip: what is it called
[18:02] <diverdude> ActionParsnip: i just need to use nfs...i dont need samba
[18:02] <kodak> m1rach4n, no, i didnt see any directions as such
[18:02] <kodak> i mean, m1rach4n, it said what needs to be done, but not how and how to know which case from which
[18:02] <delac> is it possible to use user background on gdm as it is on lightdm?
[18:02] <menda> ActionParsnip: I've got errors on boot: Gave up waiting for root device. Common problems: [list of possibilities]
[18:02] <menda> ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/7337.... does not exist.
[18:02] <menda> Dropping to a shell!
[18:02] <menda> Sometimes I get error:
[18:02] <menda> Can't read CTR while initializing i8042
[18:03] <FloodBot1> menda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:03] <compdoc> isnt nfs faster than samba?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: once installed, run:   sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf     and add these lines:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1365579/     change 'user1 user2' to usernames in the server you have, then run:   sudo smbpasswd -a $USER     and you can add a password. You can then authenticate as the username you set, using the password you set :)
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> menda: we cannot support self-rolled kernels here
[18:04] <menda> ActionParsnip: where can I find help ?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> menda: #linux   or #kernel
[18:05] <menda> ok thx
[18:05] <huhlig-home> can anyone help me with broken python3?
[18:05] <huhlig-home> I installed the python3-distupgrade and it has hosed my system
[18:05] <shakaponk> hey guyz, where can i download a non wubi iso file??? regards
[18:05] <rejven_> :(((( i will cry if some human dont help me with ati graphic on 12.10, i am losing my mind :c
[18:05] <huhlig-home> I cant finish installing it and I cant remove it
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: http://serverfault.com/questions/372151/nas-performance-nfs-vs-samba-vs-glusterfs
[18:06] <compdoc> thanks
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: that's how I set up shares
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: add to smb.conf, restart smbd service, done
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: you control who has access to what with the allowed / disallowed lists :)
[18:07] <L3top> rejven_: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[18:07] <rejven_> action man, can you help me :(
[18:08] <rejven_> but man, i suck with linux, i dont know what that even means
[18:08] <sheilaj> join #drupal-pnw
[18:09] <m1rach4n> ^/
[18:09] <L3top> rejven_: Sorry for the brevity. Open a terminal and type/copy that in, and give me the output if you would please
[18:09] <WeThePeople> huhlig-home, still workin on python huh
[18:09] <huhlig-home> WeThePeople, sadly
[18:09] <WeThePeople> lol
[18:09] <L3top> !terminal > rejven_
[18:09] <huhlig-home> Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[18:09] <huhlig-home>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[18:10] <WeThePeople> huhlig-home, send me the details
[18:10] <doc_> test test
[18:10] <huhlig-home> why....
[18:10] <kodak> ActionParsnip, it was enough to log out of the session to kill the zombie vlc processes
[18:10] <rejven_> L3top:  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Turks [Radeon HD 6570] [1002:6759]
[18:11] <rejven_> this is madness, i dont know who is bot and who is real person :C
[18:12] <L3top> rejven_: Ok I am real... ubottu is bot. Please tell me what the goal is and what you have done so far, try to summerize on one line.
[18:12] <rejven_> can we go on priv, if it takes more than 5min i wont bother you
[18:13] <L3top> !pm
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> kodak: process 1 will still run, so it won't kill the zombies
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> kodak: PID 1 is the mother of all processes, it is the very first process started at bootup
[18:14] <kodak> ActionParsnip, i, erm, i wouldnt presume to tell you you are wrong, but vlc zombies are gone
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> kodak: strange, everyday is a school day
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> kodak: will have to look into that some
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> kodak: maybe the kernel cleaned up
[18:15] <kodak> is pid 1 = init?
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> kodak: yes
[18:16] <kodak> ActionParsnip, ah, then it makes sense, m1rach4n's link said that when child processes lose their parents, init adopts them, but they get reaped when a wait(whatever that is) is sent
[18:16] <m1rach4n> strange indeed
[18:16] <pilz_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MepX0PcjzfA
[18:17] <WeThePeople> huhlig-home, use paste.ubuntu.com pls
[18:18] <kodak> which makes me wonder, is there some straightforward way to send that "wait" manually?
[18:21] <IdleOne> pilz_: political advocacy does not belong in this channel. Please don't spam links.
[18:21] <shakaponk> hey guyz, when i download and burn the iso image on dvd it is not bootable (and yes, i know how to burn an iso image :-) ) but the iso contains wubi and autostart refers to it...
[18:22] <shakaponk> i need an image without wubi... just a regular bootable install dvd
[18:22] <L3top> shakaponk: what version are you downloading and what medium?
[18:23] <rejven_> l3top i sent you  pm ;p
[18:23] <shakaponk> L3top: current 12.10 or 12.04
[18:23] <L3top> !pm | rejven_
[18:23] <jrib> shakaponk: did you checksum the cd?
[18:23] <rejven_> !pm
[18:23] <CorvusCorax> whats the recommended way to install skype on ubuntu?
[18:24] <shakaponk> jrib: did it last time, it was not correct, but it doesn't help me to get the right iso? does it?
[18:24] <CorvusCorax> is there an ubuntu packet for it?
[18:24] <rejven_> !pm | L3top
[18:24] <IdleOne> !skype | CorvusCorax
[18:24] <L3top> shakaponk: which one? I believe 12.10 is like 800 megs and wont burn to a normal cd. And check the md5sum
[18:24] <mens> Does anyone know a functional link?               http://fahhem.com/pidgin/gtalkinvisible.tar.gz
[18:24] <L3top> !botabuse > rejven_
[18:24] <mens> I need this plugin for pedgin!!!
[18:24] <mens> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/02/pidgin-plugin-that-enables-invisible.html
[18:24] <jrib> shakaponk: if the checksum on the iso was bad, you need to re-download it; if the the checksum on the iso is good but the burn was bad, you need to re-burn it
[18:24] <shakaponk> L3top: yes, both of them... and isnt it possible to burn it on dvd?
[18:25] <aniasis> do-release-upgrade won't wipe out my personal files will it?
[18:25] <IdleOne> aniasis: no it won't
[18:25] <jrib> aniasis: It should not.  But you should have backups anyway.
[18:25] <shakaponk> jrib: i've downloaded it already 6 times each, over 4 days
[18:25] <L3top> shakaponk: this is the point of my question as to medium, but you did not answer, so I was just throwing out possibilities...
[18:25] <jrib> shakaponk: if the checksum is wrong, the file is corrupt.  What file are you downloading and what was its checksum?
[18:26] <dean__> Hi all I have plugged my ipod into my pc and rhythmbox picks up my ipod plays songs but for some reason I cannot copy music from pc to ipod can someone tell me if it is possible or not?
[18:26] <MrNorm> Hi all! I'm still having issues with network transfers. I can download files from SAMBA fine, but uploading them takes forever. The same happens for SSH transfers too. They all max out at 100Kbps. Downloading via apt and wget max out at 100Kbps, but SABNZBd can download at maximum internet speed (2.2MBps) from usegroups.
[18:26] <MrNorm> Any ideas?
[18:26] <shakaponk> L3top: downloaded both, both are bigger than a cd, so i burned it on a dvd
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> dean__: when you last unplugged it, did you safely remove it?
[18:26] <pradeep> MrNorm,  are you using wireless or wired
[18:26] <dean__> ActionParsnip, It is the first time I have plugged it in to linux
[18:26] <pradeep> ?
[18:27] <MrNorm> 1Gbps wired
[18:27] <shakaponk> jrib: downloaded both 12.10 and 12.04 checksum have to generate first
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> dean__: any OS at all, did you safely remove it when you were done?
[18:27] <L3top> shakaponk: try using a usb thumbdrive. It is faster without medium problems.
[18:27] <dean__> ActionParsnip, Yeah I always unmount them before unplugging it
[18:28] <L3top> !usb | shakaponk
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> dean__: good, that prevents a tonne of problems :)
[18:28] <shakaponk> L3top: ??? :-)
[18:28] <m1rach4n> kodak: init's wait() calls are executed at short intervals.
[18:28] <CorvusCorax> ty
[18:28] <MrNorm> pradeep: Not sure if you saw my reply. Its 1Gbps wired
[18:29] <dean__> ActionParsnip, Yeah but I have just checked my ipod it has allowed me to delte music off it but cannot copy music to it?
[18:29] <shakaponk> L3top: ubottu: i guess i have to try, but why is wubi in the damn iso? i don't want an wubi edition
[18:29] <kodak> m1rach4n, thanks, so basically, i have to either check back in a few minutes(if it happens again), or log out of my session if wait() isnt doing it
[18:29] <mikl1> can anyone figure out why I get the error "RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument" when trying to run "sudo ip route add 10.42.0.0/16 via 25.94.239.160 dev eth0"?
[18:29] <shakaponk> L3top: i already got one and just trying to increas the disk size, and the guide says i need a livecd
[18:30] <CorvusCorax> hmm is there a way in the unity window manager to move the app tray to the bottom? or change the default size of its icons? it can barely hold icons on a widescreen laptop monitor
[18:31] <CorvusCorax> 8
[18:31] <zepovinho> #anonymousportugal
[18:32] <shakaponk> jrib: 7AD57CADAE955BD04019389D4B9C1DCB  ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:32] <pradeep> MrNorm, oh
[18:32] <delac> is it possible to use user background on gdm as it is on lightdm?
[18:32] <jrib> shakaponk: that's the correct md5 hash
[18:33] <L3top> shakaponk: what are you on now
[18:33] <m1rach4n> delac: yes.
[18:33] <MrNorm> pradeep: I've got a feeling its my network driver. I worked with ActionParsnip earlier and we covered a lot. What stood out was the high error count for the interface. It's a Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5722 and I've generally found Broadcom aren't brilliant on Ubuntu
[18:33] <shakaponk> jrib: even worse :-)
[18:34] <shakaponk> L3top: i got a wubi installation on a special partition, and ubuntu complains that there is not enough space
[18:34] <inTheRain> Does anyone have experience with 3d modeling in Ubuntu 12.10?
[18:34] <shakaponk> L3top: and dev/loop i guess is 98% full, i've found out that the virtual disk is full and i have to increase it... followed the guide on ubuntu to increase the disk size
[18:35] <delac> m1rach4n: nice
[18:35] <shakaponk> L3top: there is said that i need a livecd to increase it, the wubi disk duplicate is not an option
[18:35] <L3top> shakaponk: Or use windows to create the thumb. Its in the guide.
[18:35] <pradeep> MrNorm, did you giv all rights and permission properly
[18:36] <shakaponk> L3top: what is it? haven't heard of it
[18:36] <MrNorm> pradeep: I'm not sure what you mean? Sorry
[18:36] <L3top> !usb | shakaponk
[18:37] <MrNorm> pradeep: My install (12.10) is using tg3 which came with the OS. There's another driver I can download, but I couldn't compile it :(
[18:37] <Afutilettempt> I LOVE YOU ALL.
[18:38] <inTheRain> Afutilettempt: WE LOVE YOU TOO.
[18:38] <inTheRain> ;)
[18:38] <kodak> ditto
[18:38] <shakaponk> L3top: in which way would it help me solve my problem?
[18:39] <pradeep> MrNorm, let me understand you properly you have a network with both windows and linux on it
[18:39] <L3top> shakaponk: it would allow you to create a "live cd" on a USB drive, which you would then boot to... just as if it were a CD.
[18:39] <MrNorm> pradeep: Correct, and OSX.
[18:39] <shakaponk> L3top: ok, thx for your input... i'll give it a try
[18:40] <L3top> shakaponk: from which point you can do a dual install...
[18:40] <aaas> is there a way to get the idle time?  (by idletime I mean the time since ANY user logged into the computer has interacted with it
[18:40] <pradeep> MrNorm, you want to be able to access file and folders on the network ?
[18:41] <MrNorm> I can at the moment, via SAMBA. The issue is with the speed of transfers. Downloading files is fine, but uploading them is very slow (100Kbps)
[18:41] <MrNorm> pradeep: Sorry ^
[18:42] <xraixed> i currently have ubuntu 12.04 but want to update 12.10? what wuld woud be most convenient way
[18:44] <kodak> xraixed, im a nub as well, but there is a button in the update manager that lets you choose between LTS updates only or all updates
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> xraixed: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; gksudo gedit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal    save the new file, close gedit and run:  sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> xraixed: that's how I do it :)
[18:44] <pradeep> MrNorm, please i did not get you there
[18:45] <xraixed> thats another problem i have with update manager it does not let me update
[18:46] <kodak> xraixed, it will, you just need to find that button to choose between lts-only or all updates
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> xraixed: did you edit the file?
[18:46] <xraixed> n
[18:46] <xraixed> no
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> xraixed: see my above text
[18:47] <gunarm1> does anyone know a good online resource for learning about ubuntu OS concepts?  Something readable in a few weeks, but introduces layers of x system, fuse, what kernels are, fstab, grub, initramfs, alsa, plymouth, etc
[18:48] <jacek> hej
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> !manual | gunarm1
[18:48] <jacek> jest tu ktos?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> gunarm1: o'reilleys linux in a nutshell is a good book too ;)
[18:48] <jacek> oh yeaa
[18:48] <jacek> where are you from?
[18:49] <gunarm1> from what I hear all the nutshell series seem to be good
[18:49] <jacek> hallo
[18:49] <jacek> napisze ktos cos
[18:49] <jacek> alaa
[18:50] <jacek> jestes tam?
[18:50] <Mandex> Hi all
[18:50] <jacek> hi
[18:50] <jacek> :D
[18:50] <Malgorath> Is there an issue with Intel GMA 3150 and ubuntu? I can't seem to go above 1024x768 resolution even with VGA or HDMI cable
[18:50] <jacek> everyone left
[18:51] <jacek> maybe you need drivers
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Malgorath: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[18:52] <Malgorath> let me get in the box, I'm about 300 feet from it
[18:52] <xraixed> checking for ubuntu new release thank you parsnip
[18:53] <Malgorath> ActionParsnip, precise
[18:53] <blno> hi. I just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10, and since then Ubuntu automount my other internal partitions as if they were external (in /media/me/nameofpartition). I don't want that
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> Malgorath: does the system have a make and model?
[18:54] <Malgorath> ActionParsnip, http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=60550#Specifications
[18:55] <Cong> When I turned on my computer, in a dialog box this was written: The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet". and my shutdown buttons from the panel are missing.
[18:57] <Cong> brb. checking on the chips.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Malgorath: http://askubuntu.com/questions/120163/increase-screen-resolution-with-vga-intel-gma-3150     you may need an xorg.conf file if your display isn't playing nice
[18:57] <mikl1> can anyone figure out why I get the error "RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument" when trying to run "sudo ip route add 10.42.0.0/16 via 25.94.239.160 dev eth0"?
[18:58] <Malgorath> ActionParsnip, the 3150 video card isn't even in lspci
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> Malgorath: run:    sudo lshw -C display
[18:58] <Malgorath> k one sec
[18:59] <Malgorath> ActionParsnip, PCI (sysfs)
[19:00] <Malgorath> oh wait now its done
[19:00] <Malgorath> description: VGA compatible controller
[19:00] <T_A_N_K> Hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.10 and i keep getting a fail on the installer "ubi-usersetup failed with exit code 10"
[19:00] <Jake_> Hai
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Malgorath: use a pastebin please
[19:00] <Malgorath> k
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: did you MD5 test  the ISO you downloaded?
[19:01] <T_A_N_K> The iso works fine, the installer just keeps failing
[19:02] <Malgorath> ActionParsnip, http://dpaste.org/KQL1z/
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: did you MD5 test the ISO before you started using it?
[19:05] <T_A_N_K> Yes
[19:05] <cuddylier> What's the command to install openjdk-7-jre ?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: are you using a CD or USB?
[19:05] <T_A_N_K> Usb
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: how did you put the data on the USB?
[19:05] <T_A_N_K> UnetBootin
[19:05] <Malgorath> ActionParsnip, did you see the paste bin link?
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Malgorath: yes, you may need an xorg.conf if the display isn't playing nice. Have you tried Quantal?
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Malgorath: are you fully updated?
[19:06] <Malgorath> Never heard of Quantal
[19:06] <Malgorath> ActionParsnip, last I checked I was, I'll make sure again
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Malgorath: its the codename of 12.10
[19:07] <T_A_N_K> Malgorath: Try 10.04
[19:07] <benjamin_> hola
[19:07] <Malgorath> can I do apt-get dist-upgrade to get it?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: ok cool, do you get web access in the live USB desktop?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Malgorath: sure
[19:07] <benjamin_> algfuna de chile?
[19:07] <T_A_N_K> Yes, I'm using it right now :D
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: Lucid has less than 6 months support left.
[19:08] <T_A_N_K> Well yes, but it brought my old G4 back to life, sort of
[19:08] <adrianazzy> q onda pandilla
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: cool, run: sudo apt-get udpate; sudo apt-get install ubiquity gparted
[19:08] <Malgorath> This isn't an old computer
[19:08] <T_A_N_K> I already have gparted
[19:08] <Malgorath> bbiab gonna go reboot the box and see if it worked.
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Malgorath: the newer Intel driver may help
[19:09] <Malgorath> ActionParsnip, is that in the new quentel?
[19:09] <Malgorath> er Quantal
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Malgorath: is the OS fully updated?
[19:09] <Malgorath> yes, I did the dist-upgrade and just rebooted
[19:10] <benjamin_> hola?? alguien de chile??
[19:10] <lost4spinz> hi I connect my macbook to my wireless network, I get ip, but cannot connect to internet... nor to lan... I cannot ping even the router.  But it works ok with my android phone.  How to troubleshoot?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Malgorath: i suggest quantal, a PPA for a later version, or an xorg.conf to force the res
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: yes but is it the latest one?
[19:11] <Malgorath> ActionParsnip, I can't upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 via CLI can I?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: ubiquity is the installer app, so upgrading that and gparted may help
[19:11] <lost4spinz> hi I connect my macbook to my wireless network, I get ip, but cannot connect to internet... nor to lan... I cannot ping even the router.  But it works ok with my android phone.  How to troubleshoot?  Also, I use broadcom STA and wicd
[19:11] <Malgorath> lsb_release -sc still says precise after I did a apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Malgorath:  sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; gksudo gedit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal    save the new file, close gedit and run:  sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:11] <brandon420> How can i restart my audio services without rebooting my computer?
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: killall pulseaudio
[19:13] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, no process found
[19:13] <lost4spinz> can anyone help? Is there a better channel?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[19:13] <konkie> im trying to get fancontrol to work, but i've come to a problem.  i've install lm-sensors, run detect sensors, added drivers to modules, but when i try to run the pwmconfig script it says "/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed".  does anyone know what im doing wrong?
[19:13] <brandon420> lost4spinz, I would think you would need to find a channel for macs
[19:13] <lost4spinz> brandon420: but I am using ubuntu...
[19:14] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, quantal
[19:14] <T_A_N_K> Oh okay
[19:14] <rickards> Hi guys
[19:14] <T_A_N_K> Let me go get the ppa
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: why ppa?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> *what
[19:14] <T_A_N_K> ubiquity
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: you don't need a PPA for that
[19:15] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, it also messes up when ever i plug-unplug headphones. It becomes fuzzy only at high volumes
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: if you run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubiquity gparted     you will upgrade the apps needed in the installation phase
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: why do you need a PPA for that?
[19:16] <T_A_N_K> Idk, ubiquity is also stuck, and i cannot end it
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: quantal uses pulseaudio
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: what message is it showing?
[19:16] <T_A_N_K> None, I minimized it and it completely dissapeared lol, only the process is still there and ubuntu won't allow me to kill it
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: use Alt+TAB
[19:17] <T_A_N_K> It's not even there :o
[19:17] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, E: [pulseaudio] module-ladspa-sink.c: Master sink not found
[19:17] <brandon420> E: [pulseaudio] module.c: Failed to load module "module-ladspa-sink" (argument: "sink_name=ladspa_output.mbeq_1197.mbeq master= plugin=mbeq_1197 label=mbeq control=3.3,2.6,1.6,-1.0,-5.0,-10.0,-18.0,-15.0,-10.0,-5.0,-5.0,-5.0,-5.0,0.0,0.0"): initialization failed.
[19:17] <lost4spinz> hi I connect my macbook to my wireless network, I get ip, but cannot connect to internet... nor to lan... I cannot ping even the router.  But it works ok with my android phone.  How to troubleshoot?  Also, I use broadcom STA and wicd on ubuntu 12.04
[19:17] <brandon420> (sorry for the spam guys)
[19:17] <T_A_N_K> it has an ID of 26229
[19:17] <T_A_N_K> Any way to end that as root?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: can you pastebin the output of:   sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a; sudo rfkilll list; dmesg | grep -i firm
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> T_A_N_K: sudo kill 26229
[19:18] <maslo> hi guys I'm doing a dynamic motd and I'm wondering how I could capture the output of "mail" in a var and use it in a echo, I tried a bunch of arg but it always display as soon as the command is executed and isn't stored in the var ins
[19:18] <walterwoj1> How do give myself full control over a partition (sda5) mounted at /storage ?  My user (walterwoj) cannot modify it's contents but anonomous users can though samba
[19:18] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: ok, but I have to type this because machine has no internet
[19:18] <maslo> instead
[19:18] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: give me a few minutes
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: cool, then make a pastebin online and give the URL here
[19:19] <VanessaE> hi folks.  I have a problem that's been gnawing at me since around the time of Karmic->Natty and persists all the way up through Precise.  Resume from suspend refuses to turn my laptop screen back on (not even the backlight).  Google searches have been utterly futile.  The laptop is alive and well after resume, just no screen.
[19:19] <VanessaE> er make that Karmic->Lucid to be more exact.
[19:19] <VanessaE> laptop is a Dell Inspiron 9200.
[19:20] <walren> is there a way to allow windows to cover a panel, instead of using autohide?
[19:22] <m1rach4n> walren: which panel?
[19:23] <jgmdev> http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/update-on-netflix.html this rocks
[19:23] <pradeep> VanessaE, turn off  your system remove your battery after 10seconds put it back then it should boot up then we would know what next to do okay
[19:23] <grimeton> hi
[19:24] <grimeton> someone else seeing those errors after updating? "*** glibc detected *** racoon: double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x00007fa421e5a"
[19:24] <VanessaE> sure thing.  gimme a couple minutes (I'm rebooting from the live CD to check if suspend/resume works there)
[19:24] <walren> m1rach4n: not sure how to answer that.. I'm using lubuntu and I just right clicked the default panel that comes with it, and created another panel.
[19:24] <djiefo> Hi, I want my Home Folder to show files and folder by List per default. I mean, don't need to CTRL+2 anymore. Someone could help? Thx :)
[19:25] <brandon420> Some how i am using alsa mixer instead of pulseaudio, can someone explain how to fix this?
[19:25] <VanessaE> ok, doesn't work from the CD either.
[19:25] <VanessaE> battery out.
[19:25] <VanessaE> battery in.
[19:26] <VanessaE> booting.
[19:26] <walren> m1rach4n: actually, it's LXPanel 0.5.11
[19:26] <T_A_N_K> OMG
[19:26] <pradeep> ok
[19:26] <T_A_N_K> hi vanesa
[19:26] <VanessaE> hey tank, fancy seeing you here :-)
[19:28] <VanessaE> pradeep: ok, the battery has been removed and re-inserted and the laptop is booted into its normal state (a fresh install of Precise yesterday)
[19:28] <skyjumper> anyone using the Retina Macbook Pro?
[19:29] <pradeep> VanessaE, i guess it is back to normal right
[19:29] <VanessaE> pradeep: yes - it always boots fine though.  Resume from Suspend-to-RAM is where the problem lies.
[19:29] <pradeep> skyjumper,  jut ask your question
[19:29] <skyjumper> pradeep: just want to know how well it works
[19:30] <djiefo> Hi, I want my Home Folder to show files and folder by List per default. I mean, don't need to CTRL+2 anymore. Someone could help? Thx :)
[19:31] <lost4spinz> hi I connect my macbook to my wireless network, I get ip, but cannot connect to internet... nor to lan... I cannot ping even the router.  But it works ok with my android phone.  How to troubleshoot?  Also, I use broadcom STA and wicd on ubuntu 12.04.  here is some info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1365835/
[19:31] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: info is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1365835/
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: the wifi has an IP 192.168.11.5
[19:32] <walterwoj1> How do give myself full control over a partition (sda5) mounted at /storage ?  My user (walterwoj) cannot modify it's contents but anonomous users can though samba
[19:32] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: yes
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: so if you run:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null; sudo apt-get update     do you get any errors?
[19:33] <ehsan> Hello
[19:33] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: let me try
[19:34] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: no error
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: did the update command run ok? lots of 'hits'
[19:35] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: oh sorry, I only did the nameserver
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: run:   sudo apt-get update    is it ok?
[19:35] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: trying now
[19:35] <brandon420> Some how i am using alsa mixer instead of pulseaudio, can someone explain how to fix this?
[19:35] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: it says connecting one line and cursor just blinks
[19:36] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: now it says Ign and Err and "something wiciked happened resolving"
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils pulseaudio-module-x11
[19:36] <lost4spinz> lost4spinz: i cannot ping my gateway.  When I ping 192.168.11.1 it says unreachable
[19:36] <VanessaE> pradeep: I think I solved it.  kernel boot parameter "nomodeset".  Seems to fix not only resume-from-suspend but also now my backlight dims after a short interval like it's supposed to.  \o/
[19:36] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: I cannot ping my gateway.  When I ping 192.168.11.1 it says unreachable
[19:37] <ehsan> Hello I've got a PS1 code for some fun in terminal. the problem is that the code is way too long. can I put the code into a bash script or something like that? the code is something like PS1='...'
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: try using a wired connection and get fully updated. May help
[19:38] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: ok, I will try
[19:38] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: thank you
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: may help, seems the routing is a bit messed up
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: the updates may just sort that out
[19:42] <VanessaE> pradeep: found it on a harshli..er...Arch Linux forum post.  I will edit the Ubuntu Wiki page, DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume , to mention what I did in relation to it as a potential workaround.
[19:44] <DANYAL> Hello How To Set Default Language English In UbUNTU
[19:45] <aniasis> I am doing a release upgrade and it is asking whether I should replace certain files
[19:45] <elvano_> How can I connect to a wireless network that isn't displayed in the list?
[19:46] <pradeep> VanessaE, i found something too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SuspendHowto
[19:47] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: i figure something out very weird
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: sup
[19:47] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: i plugged in power to laptop so it did not lose battery.  Then I can connect!
[19:47] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: how can this be???
[19:47] <wonx> Hi. Just one quick question. How much is your RAM usage right now?
[19:47] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: and when I unplug power then I can't connect (no ping or google or anything) anymore
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: maybe its a weird ACPI config, Macs are far from standard
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: sounds like a bug, or dumb mac hardware (probably the latter)
[19:48] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: ok well I will update to 12.10 from 12.04.  You think it is good idea?
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: I'd check for bugs reported. 12.10 has a shorter support than 12.04
[19:49] <lost4spinz> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: check for bugs, there may be a fix
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> lost4spinz: also check the ubuntu mac guides
[19:51] <wonx> What is a normal ram usage in ubuntu 12.10?
[19:52] <tryggvib> does anybody know where I can find more information about why cheese crashes when I try to record a webcam video? any log file?
[19:52] <krababbe1> wonx: in Unity last time I checked in 12.04, about 800MB
[19:52] <elvano_> Okay, another question. How come my router doesn't accept my key, that does work one my other ubuntus?
[19:52] <krababbe1> wonx: desktop would go to about 700MB for itself alone
[19:52] <balam> hello all!
[19:53] <MrPiracy> i am having a few problems after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10, could anyone help me please?
[19:53] <balam> is it the right channel for some help on ubuntu bugs?
[19:53] <wonx> krababbe1: ubuntu itself, with firefox (plus skype, dropbox and empathy on the background), consumes 1500MB
[19:54] <wonx> I think it's far too much. When I open a few more programs (thunderbird, libreoffice, rhythmbox), I almost reaches my 3GB limit
[19:54] <krababbe1> wonx: a lighter install is about 40MB with one terminal window open. Yes, apps will use RAM too :)
[19:54] <lost4spinz> do i need to format usb to use usb-creator-gtk?
[19:54] <wonx> But i remember that previous versions of ubuntu were muuuch lighter
[19:54] <krababbe1> wonx: depends on the applications you run
[19:54] <wonx> I rarely reached the 1GB limit
[19:55] <krababbe1> wonx: well RAM became very cheap, and many apps use it
[19:55] <wonx> firefox uses about 350MB (tree tabs opened), compiz itself around 200MB, rhythmbox 200MB more, zeitgeist-fts (what's that?) 150MB, etc...
[19:55] <lost4spinz> wonx: features = more ram used.  If you want less ram used, you use simpler software
[19:56] <lost4spinz> lost4spinz: for example I run ubuntu with about 30mb ram
[19:56] <krababbe1> wonx: compiz, or unity, not sure, went often about 700MB for me
[19:56] <wonx> Plus... is it really necessary that each empathy conversation window takes 50MB or ram?
[19:56] <lost4spinz> wonx: but my windows don't wobble, it's the price i pay
[19:56] <balam> ok, in case it is, I would like some suggestions on why Ubuntu, which so far (for more than 5 years) worked a treat and now, after automatically (i dont understand how) upgrading to 12.04, its very buggy indeed
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> MrPiracy: ask and see
[19:57] <lost4spinz> balam: ubuntu does not automatically upgrade, you have to tell it to
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> wonx: debateable :)
[19:57] <wonx> But I have the impression that since unity became the default desktop, ram usage has skyrocketed
[19:57] <lost4spinz> do i need to format usb to use usb-creator-gtk?
[19:57] <MrPiracy> ActionParsnip, kinda hard to put it in simple words, but i will try ....
[19:57] <wonx> I remember using ubuntu in my pentium III and it went pretty smooth
[19:58] <wonx> (right now i'm using debian in that pentium III, and works fine)
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> wonx: I'm using 400Mb RAM here...not much really, nearly the same as in Lucid, maybe not as light as Gutsy but still not  bad at ll
[19:58] <balam> I must have done something wrong then. I was surprised to see it reboot as "precise pangolin" when I didnt ask for anything
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> wonx: the system partition is a sniff under 3Gb.......
[19:58] <wonx> Right now, I'm browsing the web (3 tabs) and listening to music, and i'm using 2GB
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> wonx: using a full Unity Shell + Compiz + Gnome
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> wonx: probably due to firefox
[19:59] <MrPiracy> after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 I noticed that the first boot went to 12.04 instead of the new one, after that a simple reboot would go to 12.10 without me doing anything different. Then again, after a new reboot it goes back to 12.04 and back to 12.10 and so on
[19:59] <wonx> yes, firefox is the application that consumes the most ram
[19:59] <balam> lost4spinz, I'm stuck with this version now, it seems very difficult to downgrade
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> wonx: Gmail + facebook + twitter in Chrome and I go up to 620Mb used.....
[19:59] <wonx> anybody knows what zeitgeist-fs is?
[19:59] <MrPiracy> I tried to delete older kernels with Ubuntu Tweak, but it doesnt seem to have deleted the previous version properly
[19:59] <balam> keeps bugging, no support provided.
[19:59] <jrib> wonx: if you are not running out of ram, you shouldn't care.  We have ram to use it!
[20:00] <escott_> wonx, zeitgeist keeps track of recently used applications and files
[20:00] <wonx> But I used Gmail+facebook+twitter in my old computer without problems.. (512MB ram)
[20:00] <wonx> Aha
[20:01] <lost4spinz> balam: oh, well you should say what the problems with it you have are.  12.04 is probably the most solid ubuntu version i think
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> wonx: depends what is in the tabs. Thing is though, newer Ubuntus aren't more resource intensive
[20:02] <wonx> And anyone else noticed that opening an empathy conversation is terribly slow, compared to previous versions? i think it's due to the chat history
[20:02] <wonx> ActionParsnip: this is what i'm trying to see, if it's ubuntu in general, or just my installation
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> MrPiracy: can you give the output of:  uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image     please use a pastebin to host
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> wonx: probably just junky  firefox
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> wonx: I bet you have a tonne of addons
[20:02] <wonx> sure!
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> wonx: that all takes resources
[20:03] <wonx> but even if i close firefox, i can no longer go under the 1GB limit
[20:03] <wonx> firefox is using 350mb of ram right now, it's fine
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> wonx: what other apps are you running?
[20:03] <MrPiracy> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/2pY71Xni
[20:03] <wonx> rhythmbox, empathy, skype and dropbox
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> wonx: how much ram frees after you close skype (if its convenient)
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> wonx: is your OS 64bit>
[20:04] <escott_> wonx, the thing about RAM is that you paid for it when you bought it, you are paying for it now to run electricity to it, so why not use it. as long as you aren't overflowing into swap why do you care how much ram you use?
[20:04] <wonx> skype is 88MB
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> MrPiracy: looks fine, you only have 1 kernel installed
[20:04] <wonx> yes, i'm using 64bit
[20:05] <MrPiracy> I think what's causing me to go back to 12.04 is that I have an error while shutting down from 12.10 ... it says "killing all remaining processes fail" or something like that
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> wonx: skype is 32bit, so you had to load a tonne of 32bit libs into RAM
[20:05] <wonx> well, i find sometimes the system is using the whole ram and yes, it uses swap
[20:05] <wonx> aha, ok, that explains skype
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> wonx: try closing apps and noting the ram use difference
[20:05] <MrPiracy> Then the next boot will take me to 12.04 with poor graphics (which were working fine before upgrade) and this time will will shutdown with no errors
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> MrPiracy: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[20:06] <balam> although ive been using ubuntu for some years now, im still rather a newbie  im not quite sure how to make the error message appear
[20:06] <xrlgf> hello where does ubuntu store its config file when a user make a samba share via the nautilus interface, there is no trace in /etc
[20:06] <MrPiracy> G92 NVIDIA, GeForce 9800 GT
[20:06] <wonx> I think i'm just trowing a little tantrum here, because my computer is starting to age (4 years and a half)
[20:06] <wonx> but i don't want to admit it....
[20:07] <dr_willis> xrlgf:  i think  /var/lib/samba/usershares
[20:07] <Ben64> wonx: make sure you're not counting cached memory as used
[20:07] <balam> ok, is there any simple way to REPAIR ubuntu?
[20:07] <wonx> Ben64: no no, I already checked that
[20:07] <dr_willis> balam:  depends on whats broken
[20:07] <Ben64> balam: whats the problem
[20:07] <TheLordOfTime> balam, depends on what broke.
[20:08] <xrlgf> dr_willis, this is correct path
[20:08] <TheLordOfTime> bleh, ninja'd by dr_willis
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> MrPiracy: I suggest you uninstall the proprietary video driver, reboot then reinstall it. It is rare for proprietary video drivers to survive distribution changes
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> balam: is there a simple way to 'repair Windows'
[20:08] <balam> not sure, since upgrade to precise pangolin, no more wavy windows, ugly debian splashscreen, and error messages every minute or so
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> balam: can you see how the question has no meaning?
[20:09] <balam> actually it does
[20:09] <sevenforall> I just got Ubuntu back after repairing grub. Does anyone know if I can remove the bios_grub partition I had to make?
[20:09] <Ben64> !details | balam
[20:09] <balam> running 12.04
[20:09] <escott_> sevenforall, you need that to boot bios grup with gpt partition tables
[20:09] <MrPiracy> ActionParsnip, it says i am using NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library from nvidia-current (proprietary, tested)
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> balam: an OS is an incredibly complex piece of softare, so stating you want to repair it simply states something is broken but it could be one of hundreds of subsystems
[20:09] <sevenforall> All right then
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> MrPiracy: remove the driver, reboot, reinstall driver
[20:10] <MrPiracy> ActionParsnip, would you please tell me how I could reinstall it?
[20:10] <balam> not quite sure how to display error log
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> MrPiracy: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[20:10] <MrPiracy> ActionParsnip, ok, will try that, ty
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> balam: what release did you upgrade from?
[20:11] <balam> I've been following the flow, accepting updtes as sson as they were out
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> balam: do you use a proprietary video driver?
[20:11] <balam> yes, used to work fine
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> balam: well, 12.10 is out now, so you haven't been keeping up.......
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> balam: try removing the driver, reboot then reinstall it
[20:12] <xrlgf> i try to share a folder between two ubuntu 12.10 fresh install, but it is not working, is there something to change in smb.conf to allow this ?
[20:12] <balam> not sure how, as i look for updates everyday and install every single suggested one
[20:12] <balam> last one was 10 minutes ago
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> balam: if you use an ATI GPU 2xxx, 3xxx or 4xxx and use 12.10, then it causes issues
[20:12] <skomorokh> how do i tell apt to stop caring about a package i  installed with unsatisfied dependencies? i did that on purpose, how can i get my computer to kindly stfu and let me use apt again?
[20:12] <dr_willis> xrlgf:  you are shareing them as guest shares?  You did make  users a  samba password via 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' on the machines?
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> !12.10 | balam
[20:13] <balam> Mr Parsnip, how do I create an error log to disply here?
[20:13] <dr_willis> xrlgf:  you could also use scp/sshfs or nfs to set up 'shares'
[20:13] <xrlgf> dr_willis, i set guest account enabled
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> balam: your OS is now looking for the next LTS so you won't get offered the Quantal upgrade
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> balam: I'd try the video driver remove, reboot, reinstall first :)
[20:13] <dr_willis> xrlgf:  another common issue is using the smb://servername/ when one needs to use smb://ip.of.the.server/ instead
[20:14] <xrlgf> dr_willis, i can see both machines in the network explorer, and i can see the shares, but not allowed to mount
[20:15] <cyd> jo sup?
[20:15] <xrlgf> dr_willis, usershare_acl=S-1-1-0:F and guest_ok=y are in the config file made by nautilus
[20:15] <balam> guys, I'm confused. I'm now sure the incriminated upgrade was 12.10; but then now when ubuntu closes, I see 12.04 displayed. When the error messages appear, there is no more resolving cause it says 12.04 no mre in dev
[20:17] <balam> Mr Parsnip: I tried the video driver reinstalled already
[20:17] <Wilky> hi ubuntees
[20:17] <wonx> One more question. is it possible to remove the web apps (facebook, reddit, etc) from the messaging menu?
[20:17] <balam> suppressed the proprietary, restarted, reinstall the proprietary, still issues
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> balam: if you read /var/log/Xorg.0.log      you can see why the video driver isn't loading etc
[20:18] <xrlgf> dr_willis, but yeah it is working settings the ip ...
[20:18] <balam> thanx
[20:18] <xrlgf> strange
[20:18] <dr_willis> xrlgf:  commonplace issue
[20:19] <dr_willis> I forget some package thats supposed to fix that.. i always just use the ip#
[20:19] <xrlgf> ok, i'm missing a package ?
[20:19] <dr_willis> or set your /etc/hosts with a proper entry for the name to ip#
[20:19] <xrlgf> i use dyn ip
[20:20] <Wilky> I have a problem: the Numeric Right part of the keyboard Numbers, is no more working either Num Lock on or Off
[20:21] <escott_> Wilky, does the num lock light come on
[20:21] <balam>     5.323]  X.Org X Server 1.11.3 Release Date: 2011-12-16 [     5.323] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [     5.323] Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.42-23-generic x86_64 Ubuntu [     5.323] Current Operating System: Linux Balam-SSD 3.2.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 15 10:48:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 [     5.323] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-34-generic root=UUID=3c397bfb-280f-4f07-9ecd-c1e960f8a6f0 ro quiet splas
[20:21] <Wilky> yes and Arrows work perfect
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[20:21] <FloodBot1> Telendrith: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:22] <escott_> Wilky, there is a program "xev" that will allow you to see what the keycode is. can you run xev and try the numkeys with numlock on and off
[20:22] <Wilky> this happened when I upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04
[20:22] <Lexflex3000> (offtopic) is anyone here using dasKeyboard with blue switches?
[20:23] <escott_> Wilky, so open a terminal. type xev, move the window so it doesn't obscure the terminal, and then try the different keys. check the terminal for output
[20:23] <Wilky> how can I run it (
[20:24] <yeats> Wilky: Crtl-Alt-T for terminal and type 'xev'
[20:24] <balam> Monsieur Parsnip, which line is useful in this file please?
[20:25] <balam> mmm
[20:26] <Wilky> Can't understand the fast scroll codes running on Terminal!
[20:27] <walren> I've got both Python 2.7 and 3.2 installed, how do I use 3.2 instead of 2.7?
[20:28] <gunarm1> what happens if you have two partitions with bootloaders installed?
[20:28] <escott_> Wilky, the lines look like KeyPress event or KeyRelease event, and then two lines down it says what key it was state 0x0, keycode 88 (keysym 0xff99, KP_Down), same_screen YES,
[20:29] <escott_> Wilky, you could also close xev, and run "xev | grep keysym" to eliminate some of the chatter
[20:30] <Wilky> Got a window "Event Tester" but don't get the drift
[20:31] <escott_> Wilky, so click in that window and hit the keys. you should see output in the terminal where you typed "xev | grep keysym"
[20:31] <dr_willis> if he used the run dialog.. there is no terminal for the messages to show up in
[20:31] <dr_willis> ;)
[20:31] <escott_> dr_willis, we told him to open it in a terminal
[20:32] <dr_willis> but did he? ;)
[20:32] <Wilky> does not display anything
[20:32] <balam> escott, may I ask you for a bit of assistance please?
[20:32] <dr_willis> he also has to click in the xev window for the messages to show up in the terminal
[20:32] <escott_> Wilky, did you click inside the white box? xev has to have focus
[20:34] <dr_willis> ;)mouseing OVER the xev window will show some info. but to test the keyboard you do have to click IN the xev window to focus it
[20:34] <escott_> balam, ask the channel
[20:34] <balam> Ive been asking for a while now
[20:34] <arnsa> On which distro, ubuntu or opensuse laptop's battery wil last longer? Or it's hard to say?
[20:35] <escott_> balam, then people don't know the answer or missed the question, but don't single people out its not helpful
[20:35] <Wilky> state 0x0, keycode 104 (keysym 0xff8d, KP_Enter), same_screen YES,
[20:35] <balam> ok, the question is: any simple way to repair Ubuntu?
[20:36] <dr_willis> answer would be  "No" it depends on the issue.
[20:36] <escott_> Wilky, so thats the ENTER key on the keypad. try it with a number key, then toggle the numlock and try it again
[20:37] <balam> its been working fine for years, and since it upgraded to 12.10, ive got error messages all the time, no more wavy wondows (gnome stopped working?), an ugly debian splash screen
[20:37] <SolarisBoy> can you encrypt your hdd after installation?
[20:37] <balam> seems to be hard to simply downgrade too
[20:37] <dr_willis> balam:  the wavy windows eyesore is part of compiz.
[20:37] <gustav__> arnsa: No one has tested that AFAIK.
[20:37] <escott_> SolarisBoy, you cannot encrypt / after install with any tool shipped by ubuntu.
[20:38] <SolarisBoy> ok thanks escott_
[20:38] <dr_willis> balam:  you dont downgrade.. and if you have been upgraeing for 'years'  that points to common upgrade issues.. the simple fix would be a clean reinstall.
[20:38] <balam> compiz, yes, sorry
[20:38] <dr_willis> if compiz is not working - that would point to drivers for your video card issues.
[20:38] <balam> cant do that, its my work machine,
[20:39] <Ben64> balam: you've been very vague in your questions, and haven't given any details for the past 30+ mins
[20:39] <balam> i've tried reinstalling drivers, didnt work
[20:39] <dr_willis> Sure you can.. but its a balance of time and effort.
[20:40] <dr_willis> My 'work' is all in my 'home' dir - so i can easially reinstall and get back to work if needed.
[20:40] <balam> ben64, I've got multiploe issues, linked or not, and I've been asking what to display from the xorg file
[20:41] <Ben64> balam: all you've said is "i get error messages, no wavy windows, and how to fix ubuntu"
[20:41] <escott_> balam, all those issues sound like problems with the graphics card drivers
[20:42] <gunarm1> ohh, the old "error messages" problem.  let me point you to a fix for that...
[20:42] <dr_willis> Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error......  You mean?
[20:43] <dr_willis> http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-disable-apport-error-reporting-in-ubuntu/
[20:43] <balam> yes, and although I did try to reinstall the said drivres, issue still here. The other issur is although the problems appeared after quantal quetzal upgrade, I now see 12.04 displayed when I close ubuntu
[20:43] <escott_> Wilky, still there?
[20:43] <Wilky> not workin  properly
[20:43] <dr_willis> see 12.04 where exactly?
[20:43] <escott_> Wilky, xev isn't going to fix anything. its just to diagnose the problem
[20:44] <balam> Dr willis, if you tell me how to display my ubuntu version I will gladly do so
[20:44] <Ben64> balam: lsb_release -r
[20:44] <balam> i see it when it closes pipes and all, when it closes
[20:44] <escott_> Wilky, you need to tell us what you are seeing
[20:45] <balam> thanks Ben64, it confirms what I thought: 12.04
[20:45] <gustav__> Wilky: Reinstall if there's nothing important on the disk.
[20:46] <balam> now, WTF is the question, as the issues started after upgrade to 12.10
[20:46] <Rmblr> dr_willis: why not just 'sudo apt-get remove apport' ?
[20:46] <Ben64> balam: pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:46] <Wilky> also when I log out I get a virtual keyboard without Number Keypad and Click on 123 to turn into numbers it doesn't accept
[20:47] <Wilky> when the Num Loch is Off the Arrows work perfectly
[20:48] <balam> ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1366027/   thanks
[20:48] <escott_> Wilky, what do you see output from xev when you hit the number keys
[20:48] <Wilky> I don't have a CD I've just upgraded
[20:49] <Wilky>  state 0x10, keycode 118 (keysym 0xff63, Insert), same_screen YES,
[20:49] <Wilky>     state 0x10, keycode 118 (keysym 0xff63, Insert), same_screen YES,
[20:49] <Wilky>     state 0x10, keycode 110 (keysym 0xff50, Home), same_screen YES,
[20:49] <Wilky>     state 0x10, keycode 110 (keysym 0xff50, Home), same_screen YES,
[20:49] <Wilky>     state 0x10, keycode 112 (keysym 0xff55, Prior), same_screen YES,
[20:49] <Wilky>     state 0x10, keycode 112 (keysym 0xff55, Prior), same_screen YES,
[20:49] <FloodBot1> Wilky: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:50] <rlmccormick> just installed 12.10, upgraded nvidia drivers and how my window manager seems hosed (no task bar or window borders around apps) how can i revert back?
[20:50] <balam> ben64, could it be because in the grub, I started to select the previous linux version when the issues appeared?
[20:50] <Ben64> balam - dunno what to tell you, you arent upgraded to 12.10
[20:52] <escott_> Wilky, you need to give us context. all I see is that your Home key works. but without knowing the state of the numlock light that tells me nothing. you need to hit the 7 key, hit the numlock key, and then hit 7 again and see if it changes
[20:53] <balam> it does say 12.04, yes, BUT: it definitely upgraded to 12.10 quantal quetzal smthing like 2 weeks ago, thats when the issues started. When I saw that no further update were fixing the bug, I decided to look if downgrading was possible, understood by reading on the formums that it was very hard/ impossible, and therefore decided to select "previous linux versions' in the grub
[20:54] <escott_> balam, that just boots an older kernel. it should still say 12.10 in the OS
[20:54] <escott_> balam, is it possible you had a failed upgrade and never got to 12.10
[20:54] <balam> I know, hence the WTF question
[20:55] <balam> escott: ah, ok. but then why did the bug stay?
[20:56] <zetheroo1> I am trying to figure out if Tor is running or not ... so I did 'ss -aln | grep 9050' and the output is: LISTEN     0      128               127.0.0.1:9050                     *:*
[20:56] <balam> the possible ATI driver one, meant to be specific to 12.10 if I read correctly what some answered here?3.
[20:56] <zetheroo1> does this mean that Tor is running?
[20:57] <balam> escott, is there a bug log that I could paste to show you what Im talking about?
[20:57] <Wilky> state 0x10, keycode 104 (keysym 0xff8d, KP_Enter), same_screen YES,
[20:57] <Wilky>     state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
[20:57] <Wilky>     state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
[20:57] <Wilky>     state 0x0, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
[20:57] <Wilky>     state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
[20:57] <FloodBot1> Wilky: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:58] <escott_> Wilky, you are going to get kicked from the channel if you keep that up
[20:59] <Wilky> Sorry, I don't know the rules
 escott, is there a bug log that I could paste to show you what Im talking about?
[21:00] <escott_> balam, i dont know what you are talking about so its hard for me to tell you what log to look at
[21:01] <escott_> balam, you might want to read http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
[21:02] <CorvusCorax> Hi. Ubuntu keeps greeting me after everz restart about a "crash" it wants to "report". However I think its the same crash every time somewhere down in the logs. how can I make it not bother me about the same crash again and again?
[21:02] <balam> If I want the message to reappear, to be able to display the details, Ive got to restart the machine
[21:03] <CorvusCorax> I had such a thing earlier with an Xserver segfault where I solved it by deleting the old Xorg.log
[21:03] <escott_> CorvusCorax, have you tried reporting it?
[21:03] <escott_> CorvusCorax, alternately just delete all the logs in /var/log
[21:03] <CorvusCorax> escott, yes and no, i did not actually send the report because the crash reason was me playing around with things (hibernate)
[21:03] <CorvusCorax> i did click on details and then on continue
[21:03] <dr_willis> http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-disable-apport-error-reporting-in-ubuntu/
[21:05] <alegen> hey, how can i disable ssh access for an ip address after a number of failed attempts?
[21:05] <alegen> is this possible?
[21:05] <dr_willis> alegen:  fail2ban tool can do it automatically
[21:05] <CorvusCorax> dr_willis, thanks, hat might actually be the sane thing to do :-)
[21:05] <dr_willis> CorvusCorax:  or clean out the log files. i imagine most are very old
[21:05] <alegen> dr_willis and CorvusCorax - thanks i`ll look them up now :)
[21:05] <CorvusCorax> i installed the system today, shouldnt be older than 24 hours :)
[21:06] <dr_willis> The crash files are gathered in /var/crash.
[21:06] <escott_> who is the *** trying to send me a screenshot through IRC. please stop
[21:06] <dr_willis> or so the googling says
[21:06] <zetheroo1> I am trying to figure out if Tor is running or not ... so I did 'ss -aln | grep 9050' and the output is: LISTEN     0      128               127.0.0.1:9050                     *:*
[21:06] <zetheroo1> does this mean that Tor is running?
[21:13] <CorvusCorax> And another question. I want to enable "hibernate" however my freshly installed ubuntu uses a "cryptswap" where swap is mounted via device mapper. is there any docu how to get that to work?
[21:13] <patr|ck> hello. on 12.04 when i start gimp the toolbox is covered by the panel on the left
[21:13] <patr|ck> how can i fix this?
[21:14] <CorvusCorax> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnableHibernateWithEncryptedSwap
[21:14] <CorvusCorax> found it
[21:16] <cuddylier> How do I close a 'screen' completely?
[21:16] <patr|ck> w00t, with "ALT" pressed the toolbox moves :D
[21:17] <inner_peace> how to open pdf file from command line  on ubuntu 10.4
[21:17] <escott_> inner_peace, "evince" is the pdf reader. there is also gnome-open which checks mimetypes and opens files with the preferred app
[21:17] <inner_peace> open not work and gnome-open
[21:19] <inner_peace> Cannot parse arguments: Cannot open display:
[21:19] <inner_peace> this output of evince
[21:19] <Atena_> channel brazil?
[21:19] <diverdude> hello....i have a windows server on 192.168.0.76, and a share called c$. How do i mount this share on my local nix machine?
[21:19] <DJones> Atena_: #ubuntu-br
[21:20] <Atena_> thanks
[21:20] <Atena_> :)
[21:20] <overclucker> patr|ck: I use a ppa for gimp 2.8, which runs in a single window.
[21:21] <patr|ck> also an idea, hmmm
[21:21] <escott_> inner_peace, echo $DISPLAY --- what does that say
[21:21] <dr_willis> smb://192.168.0.76/c$   perhaps diverdude . I thought shares with $ in the name were special.. but i cant rem ber why
[21:22] <inner_peace> Cannot parse arguments: Cannot open display:
[21:22] <patr|ck> inner_peace, is X.org running at all?
[21:23] <inner_peace> installation Ubuntu.pdf
[21:23] <MrNorm> What are frame errors in my ifconfig?
[21:24] <cuddylier> How do I close a 'screen' completely?
[21:24] <diverdude> dr_willis: thx :)
[21:24] <dr_willis> you mean thje screen terminal multiplexer cuddylier ?
[21:24] <cuddylier> I think so, yes
[21:24] <dr_willis> 'exit'
[21:24] <overclucker> Cueball: ctrl-a \
[21:24] <cuddylier> Whatever the 'screen' command is called
[21:24] <cuddylier> Okay, thanks dr_willis
[21:24] <dr_willis> screen command is called screen ;)
[21:24] <overclucker> cuddylier: that was meant for you
[21:24] <cuddylier> Oh, okay
[21:25] <cuddylier> thanks
[21:25] <overclucker> cuddylier: ctrl+a \ clooses all windows in a screen; ctrl-a k kills the current window
[21:25] <cuddylier> Yeah, I want to stop it completely
[21:26] <cuddylier> So ctrl -a k then?
[21:26] <cuddylier> Actually
[21:26] <cuddylier> I wanna minimise it
[21:26] <cuddylier> Oh wait no
[21:26] <cuddylier> Kill it
[21:26] <Galvatron> cuddylier "sudo service <your display manager> stop"
[21:30] <Quante> Hullo.
[21:30] <overclucker> cuddylier: ctrl-a d detatches a screen session. cuddylier ctrl-a k only kills the current screen window. if you only have one window in screen then screen will exit. if you have multiple windows in a screen session, ctrl-a \ will kill all windows and exit. type 'man screen' for a full listing of keyboard shortcuts
[21:33] <Quante> ._.
[21:35] <g3ntek> Hello everyone
[21:36] <guntbert> !enter | cuddylier Next time please
[21:36] <cuddylier> Yeah, sorry
[21:36] <g3ntek> who can help me on installing Nvidia drivers :)
[21:36] <g3ntek> Ubuntu 12.10
[21:37] <mikubuntu> what are the dangers of upgrading to new linux kernel as described here :: http://www.distrogeeks.com/upgrade-linux-kernel-ubuntu/
[21:38] <MrNorm> Hi! I'm getting loads of frame errors on my network card. Any idea where I can start with this?
[21:38] <mikubuntu> and the potential benefits of upgrading to new linux kernel?  http://www.distrogeeks.com/upgrade-linux-kernel-ubuntu/
[21:40] <gustav__> MrNorm: Try another cable.
[21:40] <g3ntek> How can i correct install Nvidia drivers on ubuntu 12.10
[21:40] <MrNorm> Hi gustav__ . I've tried two already with no change :(
[21:41] <gustav__> MrNorm: Get another card.
[21:41] <MrNorm> That simple? XD
[21:42] <gustav__> MrNorm: Yup.
[21:42] <g3ntek> nobody can help me ?
[21:42] <Pwnna> does anyone know why cdc_acm would fail to pick up an arduino on ubuntu?
[21:42] <gustav__> g3ntek: Want bumblebee?
[21:42] <Pwnna> here's a complete problem description: http://askubuntu.com/questions/209605/cdc-acm-not-firing
[21:42] <MrNorm> gustav__: OK, thanks for the input
[21:42] <gustav__> g3ntek: Does your computer have Optimus?
[21:43] <guntbert> MrNorm: frame errors tell you that either a cable/plug/.. is defect or a NIC
[21:43] <g3ntek> gustav__, mm what is bumblebee and how can i know that have i optimus or not ?
[21:44] <unrar> hi
[21:44] <Pwnna> anyone?
[21:45] <gustav__> g3ntek: A system for making Optimus work. I don't know.
[21:45] <g3ntek> gustav__,  my graphic card is Nvidia GT 640 with Cuda :)
[21:46] <g3ntek> so how can i install driver correct
[21:46] <gustav__> g3ntek: You can google the thing about nvidia drivers. There's a page on the Ubuntu wiki I think.
[21:47] <g3ntek> i have installed many times  and after installing my resolution limited 640 x 480  :)
[21:47] <g3ntek> gustav__,  i have installed many times  and after installing my resolution limited 640 x 480  :)
[21:47] <gustav__> Bummer.
[21:48] <guntbert> !nvidia | g3ntek
[21:49] <Galvatron> mikubuntu: Better performance and/or hardware support.  The main setback is the loss of support from official channels (unless you keep it secret).
[21:49] <gustav__> Why loss of support? xD
[21:50] <Fauchelevent> So here is the pack of people using Ubuntu, am I right?
[21:50] <Galvatron> The onnly supported kernels are the versions in the official repos
[21:50] <Fauchelevent> Hi cdashiel
[21:50] <gustav__> Fauchelevent: Are you carrying a bomb?
[21:50] <Fauchelevent> Why would I be carrying one?
[21:51] <Galvatron> gustav__: The kernel PPA is for testing, not production
[21:51] <szal> Fauchelevent: haters gonna hate, that's why
[21:51] <Fauchelevent> I'm just here because I'm a bit tired and disappointed
[21:52] <Fauchelevent> Haters gonna hate ... you are genetically determined, is that what you mean?
[21:53] <Quante> Why are you dissapointed?
[21:53] <Galvatron> !channel | Fauchelevent
[21:53] <gustav__> Galvatron: Ubuntu is not production quality.
[21:53] <Fauchelevent> That 's a long story, Quante.  Maybe because time flies.
[21:54] <escott_> !ot | gustav__ Fauchelevent  Quante
[21:54] <Fauchelevent> Ah, so here we must talk about Ubuntu, that's a lot to say
[21:55] <guntbert> Fauchelevent: not "about ubuntu"  - the topic is "ubuntu support"
[21:55] <Quante> That's pretty much the same thing.
[21:55] <guntbert> Quante: no, it is not, stop arguing please
[21:55] <Fauchelevent> Ok, so I'm gonna leave, because Ubutu is ok to me, no problem :-)
[21:59] <diplodok> hi
[21:59] <diplodok> is somebody there from south africa?
[21:59] <diplodok> is somebody there from south africa?
[22:00]  * diplodok is looking for somebodu from south africa
[22:01]  * diplodok is looking for somebody from south africa
[22:01] <escott> !sa
[22:01] <nv> i have an old a P4 2 GHz CPU, 133MHz fsb. i would like to overclock the FSB. doing so from Windows isnt really an option, doing it in BIOS isnt an option at all. is this possible under Ubuntu?
[22:02] <escott> !za
[22:03] <gustav__> nv: No.
[22:03] <nv> well why the heck not? :P
[22:03] <gustav__> No reason.
[22:04] <nv> all the forums show an all out rejection to the idea and i dont understand why
[22:05] <gustav__> nv: Can't change that from software.
[22:05] <nv> you can in windows
[22:05] <gustav__> nv: Why would it be possible?
[22:05] <CavalierPrime> overclocking won't gain you much anyway
[22:06] <nv> i would just do it in windows then revert to buntu but the comp doesnt boot from CD i guess i'm just gonna have to boot from Win7 starter, install, over clock, then go back to linux
[22:06] <CavalierPrime> nv: won't work unless you can o/c in bios
[22:06] <nv> well i over clocked the radeon in it and that made a HUGE improvement. now the main bottleneck is the FSB
[22:07] <MrNorm> gustav__: Just tried a PCI-e NIC and no more frame errors! Must have been the built in NIC. Thanks for your help
[22:07] <nv> there is a windows app i use that makes the config changes "stick"
[22:07] <CavalierPrime> it won't 'stick' unless the changes are in bios if you switch OS
[22:08] <eindoofus> hi, I'm logged into my school account through ssh in my linux terminal and I'd like to copy a file to my local machine so that I can work on the assignment without having to worry about losing a connection. Is there anyway to copy from the remote machine to my local machine?
[22:08] <escott> eindoofus, scp
[22:09] <nv> okay well it seems to. i mean thats how i always do it except in this 1 case, the comp only has 740 MB RAM, and im not sure how Win7 will react
[22:09] <eindoofus> thanks escott
[22:09] <Khorsan> ubuntu sucks
[22:10] <kostkon> nv, then you really need to start thinking about upgrading your RAM instead of O/C your CPU
[22:11] <nv> i like how the answer to everything these days is to throw money at the problem....
[22:11] <kostkon> nv, :/
[22:12] <gustav__> nv: You could try to start that program in wine under Ubuntu. Not sure it will work.
[22:15] <nv> yeah that will work actually thanks
[22:16] <mikubuntu> is there any way to know how many people have upgraded to newest linux kernel, as described here :: http://www.distrogeeks.com/upgrade-linux-kernel-ubuntu/
[22:16] <sheerun> How can I install weechat from here: http://www.weechat.org/files/ubuntu/lucid/0.3.9.1/i386/ ?
[22:17] <nv> wont install with Ubuntu Software Center?
[22:17] <sheerun> I'm working on server
[22:18] <sheerun> I don't know how to install from custom locations
[22:18] <nv> right click -> open with other application
[22:18] <sheerun> server
[22:19] <kostkon> sheerun, download all the deb files in a folder, go into that folder and then give:  dpkg -i *.deb
[22:19] <nv> yeah
[22:19] <sheerun> kostkon: Is there queicker way thank downloading all the packages?
[22:19] <kostkon> sheerun, nope
[22:19] <sheerun> :(
[22:19] <sheerun> And how to download them quickly?
[22:20] <ynniv> Does anyone have a working preseed for a distro served by old-releases.ubuntu.com?
[22:20] <sheerun> Rather than copying urls one by one
[22:20] <kostkon> sheerun, hmm try with wget -r url
[22:21] <roothorick> I want to install a "portable" Ubuntu OS on a USB HDD; can I do it without booting some Live media?
[22:21] <nv> add it as a repo and use && to queue maybe? or wget?
[22:21] <ynniv> I am trying to preseed ubuntu 7.10, but debconf seems to ignore "choose-mirror-bin mirror/http/hostname string old-releases.ubuntu.com"
[22:21] <roothorick> I have an Ubuntu laptop already
[22:21] <kostkon> sheerun, try giving:  wget -r http://www.weechat.org/files/ubuntu/lucid/0.3.9.1/i386/
[22:21] <jrib> :q
[22:21] <sheerun> kostkon: OK. thank you1
[22:21] <kostkon> sheerun, np
[22:21] <xrlgf> dr_willis, when you say: another common issue is using the smb://servername/ when one needs to use smb://ip.of.the.server/ instead, can you point me to something ? i can't find information on this problem
[22:24] <litropy> What is the standard remote desktop server package name?
[22:25] <escott> litropy, im not sure there is an RDP server. most people would use vnc
[22:26] <kostkon> oh shit wget -r will download the whole site
[22:26] <gustav__> kostkon: What have you done?!
[22:26] <kostkon> :P
[22:26] <litropy> lol @ kostkon
[22:29] <xrlgf> dr_willis, ok found it !
[22:29] <xrlgf> not a missing package, i have to put bcast first to resolve names
[22:31] <litropy> I did a $sudo gconftool-2 -s -t bool /desktop/gnome/remote_access/enabled true # and I'm still getting connection refused. Isn't RDP built into 12.04?
[22:33] <escott> litropy, why sudo?
[22:33] <sheerun> ircnode0:
[22:33] <sheerun> sry
[22:34] <litropy> escott, honestly, because a web site told me to :(
[22:34] <Kevin_> Hello, Ubuntu world, I'm having problems with a program and was wondering if anyone could pitch in.
[22:34] <escott> litropy, almost certainly wrong in that case
[22:34] <sheerun> FYI I've downloaded all deb files by: wget -q -e robots=off --no-parent -r -nH --cut-dirs=5 --accept='*.deb' http://www.weechat.org/files/ubuntu/lucid/0.3.9.1/i386/
[22:34] <sheerun> Thank you for help, cheers
[22:34] <escott> litropy, i would undo that. its a big security risk
[22:34] <gustav__> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1078105 ?
[22:35] <litropy> escott, wanna throw me a command?
[22:35] <escott> litropy, same command as before but with false
[22:35] <gustav__> Any one understand this problem?
[22:35] <litropy> escott, ah okay - I thought I gave root to gconftool permanently or something
[22:36] <Kevin_> gustav__: Have you tried resetting Unity/Compiz?
[22:36] <gustav__> Kevin_: Nope.
[22:38] <Kevin_> gustav__: try "dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ && setsid unity" without quotes in the terminal
[22:39] <litropy> Do I have to have a monitor hooked up for Vino to run? When I $/usr/lib/vino/vino-server # I get, "Cannot open display:"
[22:39] <gustav__> Kevin_: No, that doesn't work. I'm not using Unity or Compiz btw.
[22:40] <trism> gustav__: out of curiosity, what does: synclient -l | grep HorizTwoFingerScroll; output?
[22:41] <gustav__> 0. O_O
[22:41] <trism> gustav__: try: synclient HorizTwoFingerScroll=1
[22:42] <gustav__> trism: Works! :D
[22:42] <gustav__> Thx.
[22:42]  * litropy grudgingly hauls a monitor and input devices over to the server to see what's going on.
[22:43] <CorvusCorax> hi once more. is there a way to change the power button functionality from asking the user to doing something else?
[22:43] <wdsnead> i am sure this has been discussed a lot, but not by me. soooo... i have a laptop with both windows 7 and ubuntu 10.04. can i just upgrade to the latest ubuntu without damaging my windows 7 installation or do i need to install ubuntu 12 and then windows 7 again?
[22:45] <gustav__> Can I close a bug I opened on Launchpad?
[22:45] <CorvusCorax> hey, I think I found a bug
[22:46] <CorvusCorax> I have a reasonably fresh Ubuntu installation, when i click the power symbol and select "suspend" the system suspends, but when i click the power button, then select "suspend" from that dialog, the dialog goes away and nothing happens!
[22:46] <CorvusCorax> is that normal ? ;)
[22:46] <trism> gustav__: you can mark it as invalid, though depending on which desktop you use it may not be (it should work correctly if you use gnome or unity)
[22:46] <CorvusCorax> (as in can anyone reproduce that?)
[22:47] <gustav__> trism: Not sure what to do really. The bug is still there. gnome-control-panel shows it as enabled when it isn't. So not fully resolved but functionally.
[22:47] <trism> gustav__: which desktop do you use?
[22:47] <gustav__> trism: WindowMaker.
[22:47] <fiocco> list
[22:47] <gustav__> trism: + It could be reverted on reboot. I guess it would be.
[22:47] <trism> gustav__: yeah, gnome-control-center probably can't update that option if gnome-settings-daemon isn't running
[22:48] <trism> gustav__: so I would say probably invalid bug
[22:48] <CorvusCorax> hibernate doesn't work either
[22:48] <M13> how do I add swap to a Ubuntu Server???
[22:48] <M13> 12.04
[22:49] <escott> M13, create a partition or blank file and mkswap it
[22:49] <CorvusCorax> M13, permanently or temporarily?
[22:49] <wdsnead> i am sure this has been discussed a lot, but not by me. soooo... i have a laptop with both windows 7 and ubuntu 10.04. can i just upgrade to the latest ubuntu without damaging my windows 7 installation or do i need to install ubuntu 12 and then windows 7 again?
[22:49] <M13> How
[22:49] <CorvusCorax> you can add any file or partition with a swap filesysytem on it with "swapon <file/partition>"
[22:49] <M13> Im on a VPS
[22:50] <parazit> CorvusCorax, report it via launchpad.net ;)
[22:50] <M13> how do I make a swapfile?
[22:50] <CorvusCorax> M13: mkswap
[22:50] <MonkeyDust> wdsnead  you can upgrade ubuntu, ok, or better: fresh install after backup
[22:50] <CorvusCorax> man mkswap
[22:50] <escott> M13, you can use dd to create a blank file of a desired size, and then mkswap that file if you have no partitions
[22:51] <gustav__> trism: You have a point.
[22:52] <wdsnead> MonkeyDust    Thanks!!!!
[22:52] <MonkeyDust> !upgrade > wdsnead read this first
[22:52] <M13> is it : dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=200288   ?
[22:53] <fiocco> list
[22:53] <M13> and then what???
[22:53] <escott> M13, sure
[22:53] <escott> M13, mkswap /swapfile
[22:53] <MonkeyDust> fiocco  wrtong channel
[22:53] <escott> M13, swapon /swapfile
[22:53] <CorvusCorax> parazit: before I report the bug I wanna do some more research
[22:53] <CorvusCorax> which program gets invoked when the power button is pressed, and how?
[22:53] <CorvusCorax> via acpid?
[22:53] <CorvusCorax> is there a logfile or config where thats controlled?
[22:54] <YokoBR> hey guys, i have an hybrid amd notebook, with hd 4200 as onboard gpu and hd 6310 as discrete gpu.. i still can't find how to enable the proprietary driver correctely
[22:55] <parazit> CorvusCorax, just trying to help :) and yes ... good to do that , i do it too :))
[22:55] <YokoBR> hey guys, i have an hybrid amd notebook, with hd 4200 as onboard gpu and hd 6310 as discrete gpu.. i still can't find how to enable the proprietary driver correcteart
[22:55] <nv> i havent been able to get it working since i upgraded to 12.10
[22:55] <wdsnead> ubottu    Thank you. Had to figure out how to read the message. Quite simple. Thanks all of you and have a blessed weekend!!!!
[22:56] <nv> wdsglobal?
[22:56] <k1ng> ‰ô5wü
[22:57] <ClientAlive> omg! I unpacked eclipse juno to /usr/bin bc that seemed like a good place for it. Now I read online to install it differently/ to a different location. I use gnome 3 and if I do a search for the application notihing comes up. How do I clean this mess up so I can start over and install it properly?
[22:57] <k1ng> ‰ô5wü
[22:58] <nv> if you cant apt-get purge, then delete the dir as root
[22:58] <k1ng> ‰ô5wü
[22:59] <ClientAlive> I'll look to see if it's contained all in one dir
[22:59] <ClientAlive> thx
[22:59] <CorvusCorax> parazit: I just checked, acpid indeed listens on the power button, but does nothing if it detects that "gnome-settings-daemon" is running
[23:00] <roothorick> CorvusCorax: just a guess, but I bet it has something to do with the Gnome "Power off your computer?" popup
[23:00] <CorvusCorax> roothorick, likely, since that popup would then somehow have to trigger the shutdown / restart / suspend
[23:00] <CorvusCorax> and it works for shutdown or restart but does nothing for suspend and hibernate
[23:00] <Anyone853> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and trying to encode h.264 video with kdenlive 0.9.2. kdenlive cannot encode h.264 video because xlib264 is unsupported. How can I get kdenlive to encode h.264 video?
[23:00] <CorvusCorax> but which program does this popup?
[23:01] <roothorick> no idea
[23:01] <|MS|DjFlyBy> anyone can recommend a program for me to help create a flash photo gallery? We're talking a gallery of well over 23,000 photo's. I tried jalbum but it keeps crashing (don't think it can handle so many photo
[23:02] <maslo> hi guys how would I round this number on the same line? right now I have this memtotal=$(echo "`cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal | awk {'print $2'}`*0.0009765625" | bc)
[23:02] <maslo>  which grabs the total memory available and converts it to mb I could convert it from a float to an integer by using ${memtotal/.*} but I don't really know how I'd add that to my existing declaring line
[23:02] <maslo> kinda new to bash scripting but not coding in general
[23:02] <nv> in the xfce desktop manager, i right click on my username in the upper right corner and select properties -> uncheck show options dialogue
[23:03] <escott> maslo, try "scale=0" when passing to bc
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> maslo  better visit #bash
[23:04] <maslo> like this ? memtotal=$(echo "scale=0;`cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal | awk {'print $2'}`*0.0009765625" | bc)
[23:04] <maslo>  doesn'T seem to work
[23:04] <maslo> oh I wasn't aware there was a channel dedicated to bash scripting
[23:05] <maslo> ty monkeydust/escott I'll head there
[23:08] <TyronLeroy> How do I intall word. I am using a linux that is like Ubuntu.
[23:08] <TyronLeroy> I am very new to this stuff
[23:08] <roothorick> what's "word"?
[23:08] <gonyere> as in microsoft word?
[23:08] <Hwkiller> ms word, I'm guessing
[23:08] <kostkon> TyronLeroy, what OS exactly?
[23:08] <TyronLeroy> Or something like it.
[23:08] <xangua> TyronLeroy: libreoffice already comes installed in ubuntu
[23:09] <TyronLeroy> kostkon its this OS http://linuxforniggers.us/about
[23:09] <Hwkiller> TyronLeroy: most people use libreoffice writer OR abiword
[23:09] <TyronLeroy> and no I am not joking
[23:09] <TyronLeroy> I am using this
[23:09] <FloodBot1> TyronLeroy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <TyronLeroy> I happen to be black
[23:09] <kostkon> TyronLeroy, this is an ubuntu only support channel
[23:09] <TyronLeroy> but it is ubuntu
[23:09] <roothorick> TyronLeroy: try looking for "Writer"
[23:09] <roothorick> I'd imagine they'd have either OOo or LO installed and both have "Writer" which serves the same purpose as Word
[23:10] <Hwkiller> wow
[23:10] <kostkon> TyronLeroy, technically, yes, maybe, in general terms. But it isn't called ubuntu, so it is not.
[23:10] <TyronLeroy> http://linuxforniggers.us/download
[23:10] <TyronLeroy> as you can see it has the Ubuntu logo
[23:10] <TyronLeroy> I cant say I like the name though.
[23:10] <xangua> TyronLeroy: please just stop
[23:10] <Hwkiller> TyronLeroy: go away
[23:11] <kostkon> TyronLeroy, it has a water mellon for a logo...
[23:11] <TyronLeroy> but it is still Ubuntu.
[23:11] <baldfat> So is it better to use fstab or symbolic link shares to home folders? I want my pictures, music and video folders to all be server shares
[23:11] <k1l> TyronLeroy: this is only the ubuntu support. go and try your luck somewhere else
[23:12] <nv> cononical should be made aware of this
[23:12] <gustav__> TyronLeroy: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
[23:13] <TyronLeroy> How do I intall a word like program. There are a bunch of african american students at our high school that are tired of "white geeks" holding us down. So they made this version of Ubuntu. I think they called it that to draw a line in the sand.
[23:13] <fluitfries> is there a way to copy/paste magnet links into Transmission?  or does the magnet have to be passed directly from a web browser?
[23:13] <k1l> !offtopic | TyronLeroy
[23:13] <nv> right click, copy link location?
[23:13] <SolarisBoy> good
[23:13] <Alarm> hello. i got a problem with apt-get on my ubuntu system . i tried to install some apps , including the flash player.
[23:14] <Alarm> unfortunately the app froze at this point: Setting up update-notifier-common (0.126) ...
[23:14] <Alarm> flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.251.orig.tar.gz
[23:14] <xangua> fluitfries: i have no problems with magnet files in firefox, i've seen chrome/chromium has some troubles with them
[23:14] <fluitfries> nv, but how exactly do i paste into Transmission, it doesn't seem to work
[23:14] <Alarm> ctr+x does not stop the apt-get install at all. it seems to download (or try t download) forever the flash plugin .
[23:15] <Alarm> so how can i cancel the download of the flash player
[23:17] <nv> what happens when you try pasting into the "Open URL.." box?
[23:17] <ClientAlive> this dude on ask ubuntu had a permissions problem. The answer given directed him to unpack it to ~/bin which seems odd. I don't really want to create a bin directory in my home directory - that's just ugly. Was that instruction a mistake? Is there some alternative that won't lead to problems using it down the road?
[23:18] <ClientAlive> I'm sorry - talking about installing eclipse 4.2 Juno
[23:18] <nv> maybe try unpacking into /opt/
[23:18] <kostkon> ClientAlive, +1 for /opt
[23:19] <ClientAlive> nv: that's what the guy w/ the question says he did - well, he gave a link to an article he says he followed and that article tells you to unpack in /opt. The dude on ask ubuntu said he had to login as root every time he wanted to make config changes to eclipse.
[23:19] <ClientAlive> ok on /opt then
[23:20] <ClientAlive> do I have to change owner/group or any perms?
[23:20] <kostkon> ClientAlive, copy it for example in /opt/eclipsex.x where x.x is the version and then make your own desktop file that starts the ecliplse executable
[23:20] <nv> chmod 777 /opt/%dir
[23:20] <ClientAlive> k
[23:20] <ClientAlive> we'll giver er' a try  :p
[23:21] <overclucker> ClientAlive: It makes eclipse plugins much easier to install if you unpack eclipse to your user directory. if you plan on sharing eclipse between multiple users opt might be a better choice.
[23:21] <dr_willis> dont just toss around chmod 777's ;)
[23:21] <kostkon> overclucker, good advice yeah
[23:21] <nv> 777 = Jackpot! (for every one and any one)
[23:22] <dr_willis> I alwyas have a bin dirctory in my home.. had one there for years. ;)
[23:22] <kostkon> overclucker, although, I think eclipse always installs new plugins in the user's home
[23:22] <overclucker> I have a .usr directory in my home
[23:23] <ClientAlive> sounds like ~/bin is pretty common then. hmm...
[23:23] <kostkon> ClientAlive, not really
[23:23] <dr_willis> back years ago.. yes it was common.
[23:23] <dr_willis> these days not so much
[23:23] <dr_willis> i keep all my scripts and other executables in there, and links to stuff that may be in /opt/whatever/
[23:25] <ClientAlive> you know, I've read a couple articles a long time ago about what the varios directories under / are supposed to be used for. I see that adobe (aka: adobe reader) is in /opt. What is /opt really for?
[23:25] <overclucker> ClientAlive: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[23:25] <DaBas> Hello, I'm currently installing ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my new computer. I notice that the performance of my SSD (crucial v4) is extremely slow. Even the installation took more that 45 minutes. I replaced the SSD by a HD SATA 1TB and the installation was done in 10minutes. Anyone an idea?
[23:25] <dr_willis> 'optional' stuff that was not installed by the package manager system  is how i tend to explain it.
[23:26] <dr_willis> DaBas:  i noticed when i added a ssd that my MB had 6 SATA ports.. and i just happened to notice some of them were of a faster speed then the others. ;)
[23:27] <dr_willis> i was sure to plug my SSD into the faster ports.
[23:27] <DaBas> dr_willis: ok I will have a look than
[23:27] <DaBas> dr_willis: now you have a good performance for you ssd?
[23:27] <dr_willis> got a 128gb ssd here - i boot up in like 15 sec.
[23:27] <nv> sounds like its pausing between datagrams
[23:28] <dr_willis> i barely have time to sit down and its at the login screen
[23:28] <dr_willis> ;)
[23:29] <dr_willis> im also useing this fstab entry for my /
[23:29] <nv> try changing cables, if that doesnt work, run testdisk and maybe check out the smart logs
[23:29] <nv> your are using ext2 on that SSD?
[23:29] <dr_willis>    UUID=XXX / ext4 discard,noatime,nodiratime,errors=remount-ro  0  1
[23:30] <ClientAlive> the ownership of the untarred directory (and maybe it's contents too) seems very odd: "drwxrwsr-x  9 messagebus users      4096 Sep 20 03:33 eclipse" <- is that normal?
[23:30] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  tar rembers the original owner/group
[23:30] <dr_willis> you may need to chown/chmod it  to work properly on your system
[23:31] <walterwoj> Can anyone recommend software (free) for synchronizing files between ubuntu and windows?
[23:31] <dr_willis> thers unison walterwoj
[23:31] <dr_willis> !info unison
[23:31] <dr_willis> if i can spell it right. ;)
[23:31] <nv> what kind of sync are you looking for?
[23:32] <walterwoj> I want an auto-backup to my ubuntu file server with a minimum of bandwidth use (like rsync)
[23:32] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: That's fine, but what do you think it means for something to be owned by messagebus? What even is that? (just curious).
[23:32] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  its the UID that was rembered.. if their user name 'bob' happened to have the same UID as yoru user messagebus then thats the name that would show
[23:33] <ClientAlive> I see
[23:33] <dr_willis> cat /etc/group | grep message
[23:33] <dr_willis> messagebus:x:105:
[23:33] <dr_willis> so i would bet the uid was 105 :)
[23:33] <ClientAlive> do chmod and chown have a -r flag (to effect the directory and all it's content all the way to the leaves)?
[23:34] <dr_willis> they have recursive options yes
[23:34] <ClientAlive> right on
[23:35] <DaBas> dr_willis: which mobo do you have?
[23:35] <dr_willis> Not sure came with this ASUS desktop i got on sale last year. ;)
[23:35] <dr_willis> some MegaTrend I think
[23:37] <suttiwit> is it possible to see a list of kernel i have installed on my ubuntu server?
[23:37] <kostkon> suttiwit, with something like:  dpkg -l | grep headers?
[23:37] <suttiwit> hmm
[23:37] <suttiwit> okay...
[23:38] <suttiwit> then... is it safe to remove the old ones?
[23:38] <k1l> suttiwit: yep
[23:38] <kostkon> suttiwit, yes, just keep the current and the previous one, just to be on the safe side
[23:38] <DaBas> dr_willis: It seems that the switch of SATA ports did the trick :-) Thank you very much!!!
[23:38] <suttiwit> ok
[23:38] <suttiwit> thx
[23:42] <andybrine> does anyone know a simple way to install flash player on wine?
[23:43] <ClientAlive> what would the number be for rwxrwx---  770?
[23:43] <dr_willis> andybrine:  check out the winetricks tool perhaps
[23:44] <andybrine> was just looking at winetircks
[23:44] <Techman> Anyone here good with the lubuntu-desktop package?
[23:44] <andybrine> not sure of any of the commands though and on the gui it does not seem to be present
[23:44] <andybrine> :s
[23:44] <dr_willis> Techman:  thats a little vague
[23:45] <Techman> ?
[23:45] <dr_willis> andybrine:  ask in #winehq also
[23:45] <evilmoo> andybrine: have you tried google chrome?
[23:45] <Techman> I installed lubuntu-desktop on my main Ubuntu install
[23:45] <Techman> 12.04 LTS
[23:45] <andybrine> ok thanks
[23:45] <andybrine> will give it a shot
[23:45] <Techman> And now my Ubuntu boot screen branding is gone and is now replaced with Lubuntu
[23:45] <andybrine> just installed play on linux as weel
[23:45] <Techman> Lubuntu branding
[23:45] <dr_willis> Techman:  yes.. thats undertandable..
[23:45] <andybrine> trying google chrome now
[23:45] <dr_willis> it changed the default pymounth theme
[23:45] <dr_willis> plymouth
[23:46] <andybrine> just want to watch netflix tbh
[23:46] <andybrine> lol
[23:46] <Techman> How do I get the original Ubuntu branding back?
[23:46] <dr_willis> theres some command to switch pymouth themes.. id have to look it up at askubuntu.com  i dont rember it off hand
[23:46] <dr_willis> andybrine:  wine in windows - wont let you watch netflix
[23:46] <dr_willis> err flash in wine..
[23:46] <dr_willis> ;)
[23:46] <kostkon> andybrine, then i'm happy to give you this link! http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/update-on-netflix.html
[23:46] <Techman> No one knows how to get the branding back?
[23:47] <Techman> I hate when desktop packages change stuff like that
[23:47] <kostkon> andybrine, netflix uses silverlight btw
[23:47] <dr_willis> Techman:  as i said.. id have to go to askubuntu.com and search for 'change plymouth theme'
[23:47] <Techman> thanks
[23:47] <Techman> Will do
[23:47] <Techman> Not sure who you were speaking to there :)
[23:47] <andybrine> ahh, thanks for letting me know much appreciated
[23:47] <andybrine> didnt know that
[23:48] <ClientAlive> there's a s in my perms for the eclipse directory. This article says: "s instead of x in the owner permissions means that the 'sticky bit' (suid) is enabled, so this file will be executed with root permissions by all users..." But what does that mean?
[23:48] <ClientAlive> sounds like a bad idea - root permissions for all users?
[23:49] <andybrine> that netflix update looks good
[23:49] <kostkon> andybrine, np
[23:49] <andybrine> does that mean it does not working in ubuntu at all at the mo then?
[23:49] <dr_willis> andybrine:  what i notice about it is that it dosent to seem be officially from netflix.. so i wonder at how stable it will be
[23:50] <andybrine> yeah true, could be unstable
[23:50] <dr_willis> andybrine:  netflix does not work on linux at this time - correct. that site seems to be doing somthing with wine. which as far as i know was broken with silverlight
[23:50] <andybrine> ohh ok, damn it!!! :p
[23:50] <dr_willis> so i wonder what netflix's response will be.  its the DRM feature of silverlight that is the main issue i belive
[23:50] <kostkon> andybrine, actually, the ppa is up already, and you can find it here:  https://launchpad.net/~ehoover/+archive/compholio/
[23:51] <roothorick> I just specifically boycott netflix...
[23:51] <dr_willis> of course I got a Boxee Box and Rokus i can plug into a 2nd pc monitor if i wanted to watch netflix and every tv in the house can do netflix now.. and my phone..
[23:51] <andybrine> there is a lot of updates that frequently say netflix will not realease a version for linux
[23:51] <dr_willis> but ive been waching CrunchyRoll this weel.
[23:51] <andybrine> aweseom
[23:51] <mhouse> hey peoples
[23:51] <andybrine> thanks, going to give it a wirl
[23:53] <mhouse> I have a question, has anyone else been getting the desktop crashing/freezing after installing from the software center
[23:53] <ClientAlive> I wouldn't be asking except doing a chmod g+x eclipse has no effect (the friggin sticky bit won't go away)
[23:53] <deitarion> How would I tell apt to blacklist all copies of libogg0 from a certain repository without locking the version and preventing security updates to the main Ubuntu release?
[23:53] <mhouse> i only ask cause i cant find a crash report
[23:54] <deitarion> (I've got the Trinity Desktop Environment repo added for certain apps that weren't ported to KDE 4 or are too buggy and it provides a version of libogg0 that can't be simultaneously installed both 32-bit and 64-bit)
[23:54] <sheerun> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[23:54] <sheerun> The following packages have unmet dependencies: libc-dev-bin : Depends: libc6 (> 2.13) but 2.12.1-0ubuntu10.4 is installed
[23:54] <sheerun> When I run apt-get -f install then it wants to remove almost all packages...
[23:54] <sheerun> Any suggestions?
[23:55] <deitarion> ClientAlive: Sticky bit and executable are separate. They're just displayed in the same spot in the ls output.
[23:56] <deitarion> ClientAlive: Unsetting sticky bits is done with "chmod -t"
[23:56] <roothorick> okay... this. is. bad.
[23:56] <ClientAlive> deitarion: yeah but what about the effect of the sticky bit. I'm still unclear about that but it sounds like anyone who runs the application runs it as root automatically - that doesn't sound good
[23:56] <andybrine> lol, just did apt-get install netflix and its uninstalled wine and play on linux :s
[23:57] <roothorick> I was resizing a partition using gparted, and suddenly X is hung... gparted is still running, but I can't recover X. What do I do?
[23:57] <andybrine> ok. just have to trust it
[23:57] <deitarion> ClientAlive: No, those are the setuid or setgid bit.
[23:57] <kostkon> andybrine, just re-install them
[23:57] <ClientAlive> ph8: ok
[23:57] <deitarion> ClientAlive: Run `man chmod` to read about what all these bits do.
[23:57] <ClientAlive> ok
[23:58] <ClientAlive> man. I don't even know how to launch this thing since there is no menu entry in Activities and it doesn't come up in a search - what a trip...
[23:58] <deitarion> ClientAlive: Open a terminal and type "man chmod".