[00:15] <Zardozo> Got a jack problem that i had before but o forget the commands to fix it. i changed the sample rate in qjack  and now i get dbus error and jack not starting
[00:16] <Zardozo>  running studio 12.04 64bit
[00:17] <Zardozo> should have a script out og those commands
[00:17] <Zardozo> jack worked great till i fucked with it again
[00:24] <Zardozo> http://pastebin.com/DzGu1VE8
[00:54] <Zardozo> slow night
[01:04] <XRS1> there is also #jack
[02:12] <Zardozo> cool
[03:03] <IndigentToad_> Anyone have problems with xruns after installing a USB hub?
[03:08] <holstein> IndigentToad_: if the irq's are configured in a way where that could promote some conflicts
[03:08] <holstein> i used to just get jack crashing with a touchpad... and once with a certain usb port
[03:09] <IndigentToad_> how do I check the irq's in terminal?
[03:09] <holstein> cat /proc/interrupts
[03:09] <holstein> i wouldnt have my audio interface on a USB hub
[03:10] <IndigentToad_> oh heavens no....the midi usb synth and interface are on native ports. just using the hub for aux devices (external HD, wireless mouse, printer)
[03:11] <IndigentToad_> ok, now how do I know if there's a conflict?
[03:13] <IndigentToad_> http://pastebin.com/e9PSShLD
[03:13] <holstein> IndigentToad_: you'll see them listed.. but, if you remove the device and there are no issues, then you know its the problem
[03:16] <IndigentToad_> My hope was to figure out how to eliminate the conflicts. Issue is I'm using a laptop with dual book (US 12.4 and Vista) so I'm kinda limited on HD space. The hub is nice because I have a .5 TB external HD and I can save all my projects on it
[03:16] <IndigentToad_> dual boot...
[03:17] <IndigentToad_> my bad
[03:17] <holstein> busy for a bit... back in a few
[03:18] <IndigentToad_> kewl. thanks
[04:06] <len-dt> IndigentToad_, wow all of your USB ports share irqs
[04:06] <IndigentToad_> a mess.
[04:06] <IndigentToad_> a hot mess
[04:07] <len-dt> Ya, I unplugged all my stuff and then plugged a memstick in each port I could see. I went to a terminal and ran dmesg.
[04:08] <len-dt> Then I could see which USB port it was.
[04:08] <len-dt> I found the two ports on the right side are both USB3, but on my netbook USB3 is at least on it's own irq, so I just use one of them
[04:09] <len-dt> I found the port on the left side shared with about 5 other things :P, so I use that for  my external drive
[04:10] <len-dt> If I was going to put a hub in I would put it there.
[04:10] <len-dt> The other thing to remember is that lap tops use USB ports for internal things too. For example webcam or SD port.
[04:11] <len-dt> Unloading the kernel module for the webcam may be helpful, and the wireless card may go through a USB port as well.
[04:11] <IndigentToad_> no webcam.
[04:12] <IndigentToad_> hmm...I'm going to have to read up on this a bit.
[04:12] <IndigentToad_> seems like a lot.
[04:12] <len-dt> I wasn't able to map all of mine, it seemed that some of the USB port numbers weren't even used at all.
[04:12] <IndigentToad_> should this be done in the bios or in the OS?
[04:14] <len-dt> Disabling the wireless in bios means you can't turn it off and on without rebooting, using moprobe and modprobe -r                       lets you load/unload from within the session
[04:14] <len-dt> If you never use wireless do it in the bios.
[04:16] <len-dt> My bios editor is pretty lame, I unload the kernel modules.
[04:20] <IndigentToad_> eh...didn't have this problem before i got this USB hub. My hope is to find a work around so I can keep the hub
[04:20] <holstein> well, you had conflicts though.. i would get a non usb sound card if possible
[04:20] <holstein> i dont trust usb with my audio anyways...
[04:23] <Len-nb> holstein, it's a laptop... not much choice
[04:24] <holstein> yeah... unless you can do firewire
[04:24] <Len-nb> IndigentToad_, do you have a PC port?
[04:25] <Len-nb> If you don't have firewire...
[04:27] <IndigentToad_> no firewire
[04:27] <Len-nb> PC port?
[04:27] <IndigentToad_> not sure what you mean by PC port
[04:27] <XRS1> try enabling USB Legacy Support in the BIOS?
[04:28] <IndigentToad_> ZRS1 - I'll try that next time I reboot. What does it do?
[04:29] <XRS1> i notice a lot of problems with USB when that is not enabled. enabling it tends to fix stuff
[04:30] <Len-nb> Older laptops had a port for adding wireless, ethernet, or whatever, there are firewire plugin boards too. It gets expensive fast though, firewire audio ports are not cheap.
[04:30] <IndigentToad_> As the name states (Indigent), we ain't going there
[04:30] <Len-nb> If it was me I would stick with the USB port and go for a quiet machine
[04:31] <Len-nb> I stop networking, cron and friends, set the cpu to a constant speed
[04:31] <IndigentToad_> machine is about 4 years old and has to make it a while, so we're sticking with USB. Plus I'm just using a simple Lexicon interface
[04:32] <Len-nb> I have an ART dualUSB deal.
[04:32] <XRS1> any firmware updates available relating to USB?
[04:32] <Len-nb> That would depend on the hardware.
[04:33] <Len-nb> I have an acer aspire and as far as I know none of the bios updates do anything for USB. Your's could be different
[04:34] <IndigentToad_> Dell Inspiron
[04:34] <IndigentToad_> ...
[04:34] <IndigentToad_> Len how do you line the ART gear?
[04:35] <IndigentToad_> I have one of their little tiube preamps and it's fun
[04:35] <Len-nb> I like it. It has tube pres and a s/pdif output
[04:35] <IndigentToad_> does it record above 48k?
[04:35] <Len-nb> So I can use it as a pre for my D66 on the desktop machine or an IF inthe netbook
[04:36] <Len-nb> It is USB 1.1 so no.
[04:37] <IndigentToad_> ok
[04:37] <IndigentToad_> Like I said, the Tube MP studio has been nice to me. Makes a cheap mic sound a little warmer
[04:37] <Len-nb> I do mostly 44.1 actually.
[04:38] <Len-nb> Thats what I like about the tube too
[04:39] <IndigentToad_> they make some higher end stuff that is impressive. but I'm more of a plug in guy...record it raw and let the bytes sort it out
[04:39] <aaas> how can i stop jack from the command line
[04:51] <holstein> aaas: i would run 'ps aux | grep jack' and kill it
[04:51] <aaas> holstein ok thanks...i was wondering if theres a way I should be doing it through the daemon
[04:59] <Len-nb> IndigentToad_, the high end stuff is mostly adat or madi... the pci cards seem to be $500 +... a bit much for me.
[05:01] <IndigentToad_> don't need a PCI card on a laptop! so I am GOOD!
[05:01] <IndigentToad_> LOL
[05:01] <Len-nb> I would buy a better mic first I think. Even at 44.1k and 16 bit a better mic would make a difference
[05:01] <Len-nb> Though my desktop is 24bit.
[05:04] <Len-nb> aaas, you can also use jack_control stop or exit if you are running jackdbus.
[05:05] <Len-nb> jack_control has lots of things it can do.
[05:06] <Len-nb> You can change latency and sample rate, set the back end.
[05:07] <Len-nb> If you go to a terminal and type jack and then hit tab you will get a list of jack commandline stuff.
[05:08] <Len-nb> To learn more about any of them type man and then the command name.
[05:08] <aaas> Len-nb thanks!
[05:08] <Len-nb> NP
[05:08] <aaas> Len-nb I want to know becasue I'm tyring to get jack to shut down gracefully when the computer goes to sleep
[05:08] <aaas> everything breaks when it goes to hibernate
[05:09] <aaas> jack doesn't behave well
[05:09] <Len-nb> Probably exit would be best then.
[05:15] <studio-user509> hi
[05:15] <studio-user509> i have a question
[05:16] <studio-user509> can i update my BIOS while ubuntu is installed?
[05:17] <holstein> studio-user509: you can remove the hard drive and update the bios.. depending on how the manufacturer expects you to update it and what form the update is provided in
[05:17] <holstein> nothing about ubuntu will prevent you from updating your bios
[05:27] <holstein> IndigentToad_: have you been invited to #opensourcemusicians ?
[05:28] <IndigentToad_> I have not
[05:29] <holstein> well. check it out if you are bored.. or no one is talking to you here or in #ardour.. enjoy!.. gn
[05:30] <IndigentToad_> lol
[06:30] <smj> is there a tracker statistics page for the BitTorrent disc images?
[18:15] <studio-user496> can i ask a question here??
[18:17] <zequence> studio-user496: Yep
[18:17] <zequence> And, you just did :)
[18:19] <studio-user496> cool!  haha your smart :P but iḿ not that smart i think because this is the third time im trying to install ubuntu studio but after the restart (after install)  it doesnt startup
[18:19] <studio-user496> and i cant find the answer
[18:20] <studio-user496> it says superblock everytime
[18:20] <studio-user496> and sector 1002003048436 etc.
[18:21] <zequence> studio-user496: Tell me a little bit about the install. Dual boot? Wubi?
[18:21] <zequence> And, if not Wubi, did you install the Grub boot loader?
[18:21] <studio-user496> usb but noapic
[18:22] <studio-user496> grub boot loader??:P
[18:23] <XRS1> take the USB stick out and let the computer boot its self?
[18:23] <zequence> studio-user496: I assume you installed Ubuntu Studio onto the usb stick, or drive?
[18:23] <XRS1> what happens after you installed. you turn the computer on, walk us through the screens you see
[18:23] <zequence> Or, did you install from usb and onto an internal drive?
[18:24] <studio-user496> i burned the ubuntu studio image to the usb stick
[18:24] <studio-user496> and tthan boot from the usbstick
[18:25] <zequence> studio-user496: And then you installed onto internal hard drive?
[18:25] <studio-user496> yea
[18:25] <studio-user496> yes
[18:25] <zequence> studio-user496: So, do you have more than one OS on the hard drive?
[18:26] <studio-user496> nono i first formatted
[18:26] <zequence> studio-user496: nono, as in, you only have one OS on the internal hard drive (Ubuntu Studio)?
[18:27] <studio-user496> yes
[18:27] <zequence> studio-user496: Do you have only one hard drive?
[18:27] <studio-user496> but it doesnt boot wel because off the errors
[18:27] <studio-user496> and i saw kernel panic error or something like that
[18:28] <zequence> studio-user496: Only one hard drive :) ?
[18:28] <studio-user496> yes
[18:29] <zequence> studio-user496: And when you installed, did you choose the option, that said something like erase everything, and install, etc
[18:29] <studio-user496> yes I chose that option
[18:29] <studio-user496> 3x
[18:29] <zequence> Ok, so I think this is a very safe way of installing, and should work well. Perhaps there is a problem with the hard drive?
[18:30] <zequence> Is it old?
[18:30] <studio-user496> no its very new :P
[18:30] <studio-user496> never fell or something like that
[18:30] <studio-user496> can I perform a diskcheck?
[18:31] <studio-user496> in ubuntu?
[18:33] <zequence> studio-user496: Did you try booting with the live image, and then mounting the internal hard drive?
[18:34] <zequence> This is not a problem specific to Ubuntu Studio, and I'm afraid we probably don't have people who can help on this specific problem. So, it'll be anyones guess what is wrong
[18:34] <XRS1> is this system known to be a good working system?
[18:34] <len-dt> Its my daily use desktop
[18:34] <XRS1> no problems with RAM or CPU cache?
[18:35] <studio-user496> I just downloaded a zip package with that grub files
[18:35] <XRS1> i say verify the md5. the download might have been corrupted
[18:35] <studio-user496> and I see i have none of that on my disk ?
[18:36] <zequence> studio-user496: What do you mean? How are you examining your disk?
[18:36] <zequence> studio-user496: If the kernel boots, that means you have GRUB installed
[18:36] <studio-user496> o
[18:36] <zequence> You wouldn't get kernel panic messages without GRUB being installed
[18:36] <studio-user496> but maybe it doesnt
[18:36] <XRS1> no you cant see grub, it exists in the Master Boot Record of the hard drive. i would suggest Boot Repair, except you are booting. its just panacing
[18:36] <studio-user496> o ok
[18:36] <zequence> studio-user496: Were you able to mount the disk from the live image?
[18:37] <studio-user496> from the usb stick maybe
[18:37] <zequence> studio-user496: That is, first you boot into the live image (trying out Ubuntu Studio), and then go to file manager, click the Hard Drive to mount it
[18:37] <XRS1> i say verify the md5. the download might have been corrupted
[18:37] <XRS1> verify the MD5 of the ISO you are installing from
[18:39] <studio-user492> sorry i missed the last things you suggested because i accidently closed my browser
[18:39] <XRS1> i say verify the md5. the download might have been corrupted
[18:39] <XRS1> verify the MD5 of the ISO you are installing from
[18:40] <XRS1> should be an option to do it when you have the installer USB inserted at boot. (but iv had that util tell me its good when in fact it was bad, but thats only happened once in a lifetime)
[18:41] <studio-user492> i think i try rebooting
[18:42] <studio-user492> maybe this time it works well
[18:42] <studio-user492> and if it doesnt i think i boot from the usb
[18:46] <XRS1> another option, dont know if its worth a try but; i never trust Ubiquity (the installer)  i use gparted to first format the hard drive (in the "Start menu -> system -> gparted.) if you have 4GB of more you can format the entire drive as "/" in ext4 format and skip SWAP, then in the installer "Choose Something Else" use the formatting you set up and make sure grub is set to install to whatever your drive is labeled as (EG: sda)
[18:46] <XRS1> 4 GB RAM  or more*
[18:47] <len-dt> +1 even with lower ram I always do manual. There was a problem at one time of grub getting installed on the wrong drive.
[18:48] <len-dt> On my netbook, I use a USB drive to install on. Some times when it boots the USB stick the internal drive is sda and sometimes the external drive is sda and the internal is sdb
[23:35] <MossMan_> can anybody help me with a seemingly simple problem? i have no brightness control on my fresh install of ubuntu studio
[23:35] <MossMan_> any ideas why that could be?
[23:37] <nv> on my Evo n610c, the brightness is BIOS managed and i cant controll it in linux
[23:38] <nv> retarded powermanagement issue. screen dims to 80% by default when unplugged, Fn keys not standards compliant
[23:44] <MossMan_> so it's more complicated than just a simple fix...
[23:44] <MossMan_> you'd think that vendors could find a way to make brightness standards compliant
[23:44] <nv> hopefully that is not the issue, thats just the only time i have seen the problem
[23:44] <MossMan_> i guess not
[23:44] <nv> no that is just an old laptop that uses a PS/2 connection
[23:45] <MossMan_> i see
[23:46] <nv> might try asking in #xubuntu