| aj041191 | hello goodmorning | 01:51 |
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| aj041191 | can i ask a question about customizing kde? or is there a channel for it? | 01:52 |
| aj041191 | im new to kde things x.x | 01:52 |
| shadeslayer | aj041191: sure | 02:10 |
| shadeslayer | you can have a look at Kubuntu-default-settings which contains modifications | 02:11 |
| aj041191 | shadeslayer: where is that located?. i need to install it?. i think i dont understand youre answer =) | 02:12 |
| shadeslayer | or if you have questions about something you want to configure for yourself, #kde and #kubuntu | 02:12 |
| aj041191 | thanks2, #Kubuntu seems no one is answering, they are talking aliens :) | 02:13 |
| shadeslayer | aj041191: what exactly do you want to customize ? | 02:13 |
| aj041191 | http://kde-users.deviantart.com/gallery/37232101#/d5kn7gf | 02:13 |
| aj041191 | i know now how to make that like global menu | 02:13 |
| aj041191 | but im hearing about this be::shell and bespin | 02:13 |
| aj041191 | now i install bespin but what to do with it. | 02:13 |
| shadeslayer | ok, user support questions in #kubuntu or #kde | 02:14 |
| shadeslayer | And I woukdnt know, barely do any customizing :) | 02:15 |
| aj041191 | haha. thanks anway, i just like a good desktop =) | 02:16 |
| aj041191 | gnome is easy to customize x.x | 02:16 |
| shadeslayer | that sounds like a oxymoron, but I don't want to get into that discussion :P | 02:18 |
| aj041191 | why? xD ok ill google that hehe | 02:22 |
| === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech | ||
| * apachelogger wonders what a beshell is | 11:59 | |
| apachelogger | "BE::Shell is a simple desktop shell on KDE technology (namely KIO and Solid) for the rest of us." | 12:01 |
| * apachelogger bets 50 euros that it uses qgraphicsfail :P | 12:01 | |
| yofel_ | do we have a plasma applet that uses konsole? I can't find one | 12:03 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| apachelogger | there is a python one that is a terminal emulator | 12:03 |
| apachelogger | dunno about a konsole kpart | 12:03 |
| yofel | oh, the widget downloader doesn't crash anymore in 4.9.3 \o/ | 12:03 |
| yofel | Plasmacon is a terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology (uses libkonsolepart). - that looks kinda nice | 12:04 |
| apachelogger | oh lol | 12:04 |
| apachelogger | beshell does appear to use qwidgets | 12:04 |
| yofel | heh | 12:04 |
| * apachelogger fears for his sanity | 12:05 | |
| apachelogger | I wanted nothing more than to finish kubuntu-settings and now I am reading codez I did not know about 10 minutes ago -.- | 12:08 |
| tsimpson | looks like (yet) another "I want a Mac, but don't have a gazillian monies" thing | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | well | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | no | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | while it is from the bespin/whateverspinoff dude this thing actually is semi-sane | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | i.e. there is nothing wrong with using qwidgets | 12:11 |
| tsimpson | I mean more aesthetically | 12:15 |
| apachelogger | there is no such thing | 12:15 |
| tsimpson | and yes, qwidgets are much nicer than the insanity of graphics-whatever | 12:15 |
| apachelogger | be::shell relies on the user to come up with a config and css | 12:16 |
| tsimpson | from the screenshots posted | 12:16 |
| tsimpson | I presume you can make it pink ;) | 12:16 |
| apachelogger | tsimpson: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/18/plasma-desktopYM5541.png | 12:19 |
| apachelogger | that's what it actually looks like | 12:19 |
| apachelogger | not the authors fault that users make shit always look like osx for some reason :P | 12:20 |
| tsimpson | I was mostly going off http://sourceforge.net/p/be-shell/discussion/showroom/thread/b7f99467/ | 12:20 |
| apachelogger | as I said, it's just how that particular invidual chose to theme the shell ;) | 12:21 |
| tsimpson | I have to say, there's a part of me that would be quite happy with nothing but a context menu on the desktop | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | use fluxbos | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | fluxbox | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | also a word of advise: do not try beshell | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | my plasma found out that I am seeing something else | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | now I have 4 panels | 12:24 |
| apachelogger | ontop of each other | 12:24 |
| apachelogger | and there is the crash | 12:24 |
| * apachelogger sighs | 12:24 | |
| tsimpson | I did use fluxbox a while back, but then I start to miss launchers. I'm one of those people who can't make up their minds | 12:25 |
| tsimpson | or rather it changes based on my mood | 12:25 |
| * apachelogger likes to use konsole | 12:25 | |
| tsimpson | I do take yakuake to whatever DE I'm using | 12:27 |
| tsimpson | it's the first thing I install | 12:27 |
| apachelogger_ | I could live with ttys alone if there were sensible audio players :P | 12:29 |
| apachelogger_ | debfx, Riddell, shadeslayer, Quintasan: if you don't reply to the 'kubuntu-settings restructuring' thread I'll go ahead and break it | 12:37 |
| apachelogger | https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-settings/kubuntu-settings | 12:46 |
| apachelogger | ready for upload except for possible dep changes etc. | 12:47 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 14:49 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: looking | 19:43 |
| Quintasan | or lemme know if you broke it already | 19:43 |
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| Quintasan | agateau: ping | 19:55 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: ping | 19:56 |
| apachelogger | yes? | 19:57 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/609992 | 19:58 |
| Quintasan | Is this even remotely dep-5 compatible | 19:58 |
| * Quintasan wonder is he actually has to care about dep-5 compatibility | 19:58 | |
| apachelogger | who would know what with there not being a sensible parser and all that :P | 19:58 |
| Quintasan | Wait. | 19:59 |
| Quintasan | So you mean there is no dep-5 parser at this point in time? | 19:59 |
| apachelogger | have not seen one | 19:59 |
| apachelogger | it's spec compliant though | 19:59 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: so it's good according to the specs? | 20:00 |
| Quintasan | Good. | 20:00 |
| yofel | hm, lintian has some limited dep-5 parsing support | 20:00 |
| yofel | looks fine though | 20:00 |
| * Quintasan wonders why introduce dep-5 if you have no parsing for it | 20:00 | |
| Quintasan | It's like, useless now | 20:01 |
| Quintasan | yofel,apachelogger: symbols are needed only for libs that export public fuctions, right? | 20:02 |
| * Quintasan has no idea how to determine whether library does that or not | 20:02 | |
| apachelogger | every library does that | 20:03 |
| yofel | uhm, if it doesn't have anything public you won't have any public symbols either... | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | there are only public interfaces | 20:03 |
| * yofel is in weekend-leathargy mode and has his brain on powersave | 20:04 | |
| Quintasan | SO | 20:04 |
| Quintasan | how the hell do I know that about homerun? | 20:04 |
| yofel | does it ship headers? | 20:04 |
| yofel | if there are no headers, nothing will link against the lib and you don't need a symbol file | 20:04 |
| Quintasan | some | 20:04 |
| Quintasan | usr/include/homerun/abstractsource.h | 20:04 |
| Quintasan | usr/include/homerun/homerun_export.h | 20:04 |
| Quintasan | usr/include/homerun/pathmodel.h | 20:04 |
| Quintasan | usr/include/homerun/sourceconfigurationwidget.h | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | that there is a much saner policy ... every library that has header files associated with it needs to have a symbols file ;) | 20:04 |
| yofel | homerun_export.h -> you can't get anymore public than that | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | yofel: that is technically a false statement | 20:05 |
| yofel | well, I meant nothing not from the same package... | 20:05 |
| Quintasan | AFAIR pdebuild should yield something about missing symbols file but I didn't get that | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | e.g. qt has api that is not in an installed header but comprises interfaces that an application having the headers will be able to link against | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | that what qtcreator does | 20:06 |
| yofel | ... fun | 20:06 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Your definiton of "fun" is definitely weird | 20:06 |
| Quintasan | :P | 20:06 |
| yofel | well, I know I'm weird. I like things that don't work :P | 20:06 |
| Quintasan | I like things that work after you kick them | 20:07 |
| Quintasan | yofel, apachelogger: should I use pkgkde-gensymbols magic or just use dpkg-gensymbols? | 20:09 |
| yofel | if it's c++ use pkgkde | 20:10 |
| Quintasan | yay for homerun | 20:11 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger, yofel: dget -xu http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/homerun_0.1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc | 20:36 |
| Quintasan | I need review | 20:36 |
| yofel | Quintasan: can you please add a comment to override_dh_auto_test so whoever looks at the package in a year from now still knows why they're disabled? | 20:45 |
| yofel | and maybe put the libs into the libs section | 20:46 |
| yofel | looks fine otherwise | 20:46 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Like adding Section: libs to the binary packages or put the whole source package into libs? | 20:48 |
| yofel | the former (the libs should be in libs, the plasma widget in kde, not sure about the source) | 20:49 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: don't forget to send me a merge request for the homerun daily packages | 20:55 |
| Quintasan | sure | 20:56 |
| Quintasan | will upload somewhere to LP | 20:56 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: uhh, I can't branch https://code.launchpad.net/~blue-shell/homerun/packaging for some reason, want me to bzr init my packaging, upload it to my lp space and request a merge? | 21:08 |
| shadeslayer | bzr branch lp:~blue-shell/homerun/packaging doesn't work ? | 21:09 |
| shadeslayer | odd ... | 21:10 |
| Quintasan | ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host | 21:11 |
| Quintasan | ConnectionReset reading response for 'BzrDir.open_2.1', retrying | 21:11 |
| Quintasan | ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host | 21:11 |
| Quintasan | bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist. | 21:11 |
| shadeslayer | whaaa ... | 21:11 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: nevermind then, will check your package later then | 21:12 |
| Quintasan | yofel: I fixed the things you mentioned, uploading to raring | 21:12 |
| yofel | \o/ | 21:13 |
| Quintasan | better testbuild once again | 21:13 |
| Quintasan | yofel, shadeslayer: uploaded to raring-proposed, the bug #1078889 should get closed automagically soon | 21:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1078889 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] homerun" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1078889 | 21:17 |
| yofel | why -proposed? | 21:17 |
| shadeslayer | kool | 21:17 |
| Quintasan | yofel: That's how raring works | 21:18 |
| yofel | but you didn't really put that into the changelog, right? | 21:18 |
| Quintasan | First it goes to proposed then is copied to raring AFAIR | 21:18 |
| Quintasan | ofc I did not :P | 21:18 |
| yofel | ok, then I just misunderstood ;) | 21:18 |
| yofel | (note that the bug is only closed when it's published in RELEASE) | 21:22 |
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