[00:25] <bobweaver> how long does package t email take ?  say I just made 7 packages and dput one after other does it have to wait 1 after other ?
[00:26] <bobweaver> like I have dput at least 7 and have only gotten one email WUWT ?
[00:26] <bobweaver> thanks
[07:18] <simplew> im having problems with upload packages in ppa, anyon around?
[12:09] <cos--> hello, about this issue https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/132840
[12:09] <cos--> is it really so that i need to create a new version of package (in debian/changelog) to get it to different series?
[12:12] <cos--> i'd just like to release my app into all possible series without any changes
[12:19] <tsimpson> you can't have the same version of a package for different series unless the package is architecture independent iirc
[12:34] <cos--> the only thing i need to do is to replace for example precise with quantal in changelog
[12:34] <cos--> the version number can be same
[12:36] <cos--> i don't understand the purpose of copy packages if it can't just copy the package in different series
[12:36] <persia> cos--: To do that, upload to the earliest series you support, and copy the package to each later series.
[12:37] <persia> cos--: Be warned that if your package relies on any libraries, the version provided by the different series may change, requiring a new upload.
[12:37] <cos--> persia: i uploaded my packages to precise, but copying to quantal fails
[12:38] <persia> You need to also copy the binaries, or it doesn't work.
[12:38] <persia> And there's likely lots of bugs related to uploading things and later deleting them, leading to the complications described in the referenced question.
[12:39] <cos--> i selected "rebuild the copied sources" as there may be changes in dependency libraries
[12:39] <persia> Right.  You can't do that without a changelog entry.
[12:40] <cos--> as a developer it's really annoying to have to modify changelog and upload for each series
[12:40] <cos--> this should be handled by launchpad automatically
[12:40] <persia> On the other hand, sometimes you don't need to do it: I have a package in the archive with the same version (and same binaries) for oneiric, precise, quantal, and raring (and it works).
[12:41] <cos--> my app uses Qt, so it should be more or less binary compatible. but i'd prefer rebuilding anyway.
[12:41] <persia> The design and intended audiences for PPAs changed a few times during the development, and seem now to be a compromise that almost work for most use cases.
[12:42] <persia> But I'm not the best person to defend the current state: I can only advise how to work around it.
[12:43] <cos--> i hope the "upload to multiple series" feature will be implemented some day
[12:44] <cos--> my app would work probably on all ubuntu versions with qt >= 4.5 but because of this issue i'm only uploading for precise & quantal
[12:44] <persia> It can't work with the current architecture of PPAs, so it's likely to be a very long time.  If it's critical for you, it's probably easier to set up some sbuild instances and host a separate archive.
[12:45] <persia> The Qt folk make a very strong effort to preserve the compatibility: you're probably safe starting from the lowest version, and copying without rebuilding, although you might want to run tests on the results to verify the first time.
[12:45] <cos--> i think it could be done. launchpad could just replace series name in changelog and build the package in each series
[12:46] <cos--> and yes, i could write a script that does it but i think it still should be done by launchpad
[12:46] <persia> That would break the cryptographic model, where the signed upload is known to precisely match the build input
[12:47] <cos--> it would, but i'd be happy to accept it
[12:48] <StevenK> Use recipes
[12:48] <persia> Ooh!  Good point.
[12:49]  * persia always forgets about recipes
[12:52] <cos--> recipes?
[12:58] <cos--> i suppose this.. https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/GettingStarted
[16:39] <tgm4883> Can someone take care of the comment spam on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/609252/comments/2
[16:49] <tsimpson> tgm4883: probably better to ask on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[16:56] <tgm4883> tsimpson, just did, thanks
[17:06] <JPeterson> can i change my launchpad id?
[17:07] <JPeterson> nice, it updated all my items
[22:38] <simplew> i have uploaded a package in ppa but i did delete it, now i cant upload a new one, i get an email saying the upload failed, how can now see the package version-release of the deleted package to be sure im uploading an incremented release of that packaged?