[00:54] <kaushal> Hi
[00:57] <kaushal> I have installed hipchat desktop app on Ubuntu Linux Desktop 11.10, I am not able to maximize the window. Any clue?
[00:57] <jea> does hipchat have any window size buttons in the top left corner?
[00:58] <kaushal> yes
[00:59] <jea> is a maximise button included? if so, what does it do?
[00:59] <kaushal> yes its included and when i click it does not do anything
[01:00] <jea> ok. that does sound unusual
[01:01] <kaushal> jea: yes its weird
[01:02] <jea> i know it is possible to fix the window size, but still have the maximise button available
[01:02] <jea> possibly that is what has happened in this case
[01:02] <kaushal> jea: is it possible to set the window size?
[01:03] <kaushal> similar to the browser window
[01:03] <jea> as in, when you write a program, you can set the window size in the code, which means it cannot be resized
[01:03] <kaushal> jea: i ran it using command line and i dont see anything in the console
[01:03] <jea> can you resize the window by dragging the edges?
[01:03] <kaushal> yes
[01:03] <kaushal> but its for that session only
[01:03] <jea> ok
[01:04] <kaushal> once i reboot my desktop its back to the square one
[01:04] <jea> i would say it is to do with how the person coded the application
[01:04] <kaushal> :/
[01:04] <jea> can you launch it without using the command line?
[01:04] <kaushal> yes
[01:05] <jea> and does that change anything?
[01:05] <kaushal> nope
[01:05] <kaushal> its the same
[01:05] <kaushal> behaviour
[01:06] <jea> ok
[01:07] <jea> unfortunately i am not sure if anything can really be done about it
[01:07] <jea> it looks like hipchat is based on adobe air, which is discontinued for linux
[01:07] <kaushal> jea: yes
[01:07] <jea> so there will not be any updates to air, making it harder to update apps that use that also
[01:08] <kaushal> :/
[01:08] <kaushal> this is actually crap when ubuntu is so popular desktop
[01:09] <blahdeblah> That's Adobe for you... ;-)
[01:09] <jea> atlassian only bought hipchat in may this year
[01:09] <jea> so it is possible they will be working on new versions
[01:10] <jea> blahdeblah: very true
[01:51] <head_victim> blahdeblah: ah ok, basically I"m currently in the market for a dumb switch for a temporary job and thought the rest of it would be fun to play with when I'm done.
[02:16] <blahdeblah> head_victim: It would certainly do the job of a dumb switch, as long as you're aware that it's 2 x 5-port switches connected to each other
[02:17] <head_victim> Yeah the idea was heavy traffic (pcs, other network hardware, etc) on the 5x gig, low traffic (printers, etc) on the 5x 10/100
[02:18] <head_victim> The only reason I'm considering that over just consumer grade kit is to play with it afterwards. I'm currently trying to reshuffle the network here at home and I need another switch for about 6 months or so. 
[02:19] <head_victim> blahdeblah: also tempting for wireless is some unifi gear from ubiquiti but that's further down the track.
[02:23] <blahdeblah> I'm looking forward to Ubiquiti's EdgeMax routers being released - they're Vyatta on a Mikrotik-like hardware platform
[02:33] <head_victim> Hah, something worth putting in the household network for sure ;)