[18:53] <ubot2> Nafallo called the ops in #ubuntu-desktop ()
[18:55] <ubot2> EXORCIST called the ops in #ubuntu-desktop ()
[18:55] <ubot2> EXORCIST called the ops in #ubuntu-beginners-team ()
[18:55] <ubot2> EXORCIST called the ops in #ubuntu-bugs ()
[18:55] <Nafallo> ugh
[18:56] <Fuchs> solved.
[18:56] <EXORCIST> !ops
[18:56] <IdleOne> lol
[18:56] <Nafallo> thanks Fuchs and Pricey :-)
[21:05] <Fuchs> AlanBell: since you seem to be around: earlier there was a problem in #ubuntu-nl with no ops around, which made me look at the ACL. I am not sure about your internal policies on these, but maybe you want to adapt it a bit
[21:07] <AlanBell> hi Fuchs
[21:07] <Fuchs> Hi :)
[21:07] <AlanBell> yeah, I will find out what is up with that
[21:07] <Fuchs> Okay
[21:08] <Fuchs> have a nice evening :)
[21:08] <AlanBell> oh JanC is on the ACL for that :)
[21:12] <JanC> eh, I saw earlier that EXORCIST entered in #ubuntu-nl, spewed 12 lines of "insults" and left less than 5 minutes later
[21:13] <JanC> we aren't around every second 24/7  ☺
[21:13] <AlanBell> yeah, which is fine, Fuchs was just pointing out that there was no freenode staff ACL entry
[21:13] <Fuchs> no IRCC entry as well
[21:14] <JanC> ah, I think I have that for #ubuntu-be (certainly IRCC entry)
[21:14] <Fuchs> JanC: yes, he was a bit of an issue in plenty of ubuntu channels due to a personal grudge, and had to be removed from the network entirely,
[21:14] <JanC> I don't think I can manage the #ubuntu-nl* access lists?
[21:14] <Fuchs> I was just a bit surprised by the ACL compared to other ubuntu channels, hence me pointing it out :)
[21:14] <Fuchs> no, you can't
[21:14] <Fuchs> you don't have f or F
[21:15] <AlanBell> JanC: nope, but you are a handy person to talk to :)
[21:16] <AlanBell> SWAT would appear to be the owner, but isn't online I think
[21:16] <JanC> yes, that's Sebastian
[21:17] <JanC> he hasn't been on-line much since his personal server crashed   :-/
[21:18] <AlanBell> ok, well there is no tearing hurry about it, but if you see him around could you point him in the direction of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/CreatingChannels
[21:19] <AlanBell> we don't insist on anything in particular for channel ACLs, but there are guidelines to add freenode/staff and UbuntuIrcCouncil
[21:19] <JanC> yep, I'll try to remember that
[21:20] <JanC> seems like I already have both of you on #ubuntu-be  ☺
[21:20] <Fuchs> \o/
[21:20] <Fuchs> JanC: it's just, as the website says, good practise, because if we are not on it, we are a bit hesitant to act since we do respect channel owner decisions. But it is entirely up to you, it just hit me as odd :)
[21:21] <Fuchs> s/hit/strike/
[21:22] <JanC> Fuchs: for the record: I don't mind you intervening in case of obvious (server-wide) trolls like that
[21:22] <Fuchs> JanC: that doens't help unless we are on the ACL, I am afraid :(  But anyway, it is in the ubuntu namespace, so in the worst case an ubuntu gc could have us act
[21:23] <JanC> well, I don't know exactly what you can do as freenode staff
[21:23] <JanC> with or withoiut that ACL
[21:23] <JanC> without
[21:24] <Fuchs> we could technically go around it, it's just we rather don't :)
[21:25] <JanC> well, we don't mind if you go around it in case of an emergency
[21:26] <JanC> and I suppose that's the sort of situations you would interfere with—not simple disputes between channel members  ;)