[11:53] <Zhenech> could someone please mark this as affecting quantal? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/monkeystudio/+bug/1074845
[12:40] <jtaylor> done
[13:16] <Zhenech> jtaylor, thanks
[17:01] <jtaylor> tumbleweed: the probably better alternative would be to remove the check completely
[17:02] <jtaylor> but that would require rebuilding what already has picked up .9
[17:02] <jtaylor> (which is probably almost nothing)
[17:02] <tumbleweed> how sure are you that patch versions are compatible?
[17:02] <jtaylor> no
[17:02] <jtaylor> but if they aren'T the soversion should bump
[17:02] <tumbleweed> also, why doesn't that have strict version dependencies to match
[17:02] <jtaylor> there is no reason to do this compiletime <-> runtime check
[17:03] <jtaylor> looks like a case of bad upstream
[17:03] <tumbleweed> do minor releases tend to come with sovesrion bumps?
[17:03] <jtaylor> minor yes, patch don'T no
[17:03] <jtaylor> probably not
[17:03] <jtaylor> debian maintainer said no, but he didn't even know about this issue
[17:04] <tumbleweed> sounds reasonable, do it
[17:04] <jtaylor> such things should be handled by soversion not runtime checks
[17:05] <tumbleweed> yeah
[17:06] <tumbleweed> btw, re the i386 FTBFS, I never reporduced it on sid, and gave up before diving in too deeply
[17:06] <jtaylor> my i386 chroot just finished I'll try 0.9.1
[17:14] <jtaylor> still affected :(
[21:52] <alo21> hi all
[21:52] <alo21> jtaylor: hi... can I ask a thing?
[21:52] <jtaylor> yes?
[21:53] <alo21> jtaylor: I found at merges.ubuntu.com a package called xorp, and I noticed that you are the last uploader
[21:54] <alo21> and I am wondering If I can work on it
[21:55] <jtaylor> sure go ahead
[21:57] <alo21> jtaylor: thanks... I think xorp can be dropped (synced), but because I am a beginner and I am not very insecure, I would like to know If it is right.
[21:58] <jtaylor> yes its pretty likely that it can be synced
[21:58] <jtaylor> test build the debian package
[21:58] <jtaylor> if it works we can give a sync a go
[21:59] <alo21> jtaylor: ok. Thanks again
[22:03] <alo21> jtaylor: I am looking for the debian folder (http://packages.debian.org/source/testing/xorp), but I cannot find it. Can use the Ubuntu one?
[22:04] <jtaylor> use pull-debian-source to get the source
[22:04] <jtaylor> or dget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xorp/xorp_1.8.5-1.1.dsc
[22:06] <alo21> jtaylor: If I use pull-debian-source, it will retrieve the testing or unstable source?
[22:06] <jtaylor> by default unstable
[22:06] <jtaylor> but you can pull testing or experimental too
[22:06] <jtaylor> see the manpage
[22:13] <alo21> jtaylor: I occured this error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1368872/
[22:13] <jtaylor> are you building in pbuilder?
[22:13] <alo21> I run debuild -S
[22:14] <jtaylor> that should not be needed when you pull the unmodified source
[22:14] <jtaylor> you can pass that directly to pbuilder
[22:16] <alo21> jtaylor: it meens that every time I edit a part of a packeg for ubuntu, i have to edit debian/rules too. right?
[22:16] <jtaylor> not always
[22:16] <jtaylor> rules takes care of building the package, you only have to touch that if there is something wrong with the build
[22:17] <alo21> and could you tell why I occure that error?
[22:17] <jtaylor> because you don't have all build dependencies installed
[22:17] <jtaylor> in this case scons is missing
[22:18] <jtaylor> you could install them with mk-build-deps -ir
[22:18] <jtaylor> but for this its better to just dump it in pbuilder
[22:19] <jtaylor> pbuilder-dist raring amd64 build <dsc-file>
[22:19] <alo21> jtaylor: I asked it, in this way I start to recognize some errors and know how to resolve the,
[22:19] <alo21> them*
[22:34] <alo21> jtaylor: the building is ended. Have try to install it too?
[22:35] <alo21> have i*
[22:35] <jtaylor> you should test the upgrade/install too yes
[22:35] <jtaylor> there is a pbuilder hook that does that for you
[22:36] <jtaylor> unfortunately it often screws something up
[22:42] <alo21> jtaylor: ok, it works. Now I am going to make a sync request
[22:52] <alo21> jtaylor: here is the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorp/+bug/1080485
[22:57] <jtaylor> thx, sponsored