pleia2 | akk: were you able to make it to the mt view ubuntu hour? | 16:49 |
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akk | pleia2: I was. It was small, only 5 people, but fun anyway. | 16:49 |
pleia2 | been trying to get ahold of some of the people running it to get DVDs down there, but no one is responding to my email :( | 16:49 |
akk | Hmph! | 16:49 |
pleia2 | they didn't announce it to the mailing list or put it on the loco.ubuntu.com site either, so I'm not sure what's going on | 16:50 |
pleia2 | and I'm not sure what to do | 16:50 |
akk | Yeah, sigh. Meetup is working well, but I have to think a lot of that is just that the event is actually announced there. | 16:50 |
pleia2 | to be honest it's not really an ubuntu california event if they're not even telling the rest of the team about it | 16:51 |
akk | Would much rather have a non-proprietary place where things were announced. | 16:51 |
pleia2 | agreed | 16:51 |
akk | True. Sadly. | 16:51 |
pleia2 | you can't even see the events without signing up | 16:51 |
akk | Meetup is annoying and I can heartily understand people not wanting to sign up for it. | 16:51 |
* pleia2 nods | 16:51 | |
akk | Though it is admittedly a good way to reach non-connected or not-so-techy people -- they seem to like it. | 16:52 |
pleia2 | I'm thinking maybe I put together a little wiki page that describes the steps to host an event with the team | 16:52 |
akk | That would be helpful! | 16:52 |
pleia2 | we've gone from very strict "you must get permission and do full reports" to a looseness which people have taken to an extreme where they don't even bother telling the rest of us they're doing something | 16:52 |
akk | Y'know, when I look for a list of upcoming ubuntu hours it always takes me several minutes of clicking around to find anything. | 16:53 |
pleia2 | yeah, you should just be able to go to ubuntu-california.org and click "events" | 16:53 |
akk | Right. | 16:53 |
pleia2 | San Jose has gotten a lot better at adding theirs :) http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/events/history | 16:54 |
darthrobot` | Title: [Ubuntu California Events History | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal] | 16:54 |
akk | Is there any way to get them onto the page you get when you click "Events"? All I see there now is the IRC meeting. | 16:55 |
pleia2 | that link is past events | 16:55 |
pleia2 | there aren't any scheduled right now so there aren't any on the "Events" page | 16:56 |
* pleia2 goes to add next SF one | 16:56 | |
akk | It's showing is Ubuntu California Team Meeting on Sunday, 18 Nov. 2012 at 19:00 PST | 16:56 |
pleia2 | right, that's the only thing right now | 16:56 |
akk | But if I click on All Events, it says there are no events, I guess the meeting doesn't count. | 16:57 |
pleia2 | yeah, a "Meeting" is a meeting, Events are separate | 16:57 |
akk | That's really confusing. | 16:58 |
akk | I went to events, it showed me a meeting, I clicked on all events, suddenly the meeting wasn't there any more. | 16:58 |
akk | It's sometimes an event and sometimes not. | 16:58 |
pleia2 | yeah, that's why I just link to the main page from our website :) | 16:58 |
pleia2 | no need for people to click around, everything is on that page | 16:58 |
pleia2 | unfortunately loco.ubuntu.com doesn't have active django developers beyond bug fixes | 16:59 |
pleia2 | ok, SF one is added, so now you should be able to see on when you go to http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california | 17:00 |
darthrobot` | Title: [Ubuntu California | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal] | 17:00 |
akk | yep | 17:01 |
akk | Y'know, yesterday a non-ubuntu friend was lamenting how people in his activist group aren't techie, they won't use calendaring (like google calendar) for scheduling | 17:02 |
pleia2 | hehe | 17:02 |
akk | they insist on scheduling things by announcing them on a mailing list or facebook and nowhere else | 17:02 |
akk | and I had to tell him well, guess what, even in techie groups specifically oriented to computers, the exact same thing happens. | 17:03 |
pleia2 | I'm very glad loco.ubuntu.com at least has the working calendar, that's what I use to update twitter and everything | 17:03 |
pleia2 | (which means mountain view doesn't get to twitter when it's not in loco.ubuntu...) | 17:03 |
akk | yep | 17:03 |
pleia2 | I think our problem is that people don't use the tools, not that they don't exist | 17:03 |
akk | I'd offer to be the one to update the MV ones, except it seems like I'm always the one asking "Hey, is there an MV UH tomorrow?" | 17:04 |
pleia2 | haha, yeah, you asking that is usually what reminds me there should be and start asking around | 17:04 |
pleia2 | I did ask the SV folks if they could assign someone to do it, but didn't get much of a response | 17:04 |
akk | I think I said the same thing then, something like "I'll be happy to update the pages if you tell me when the events are" :) | 17:05 |
akk | I guess I could try updating the loco page when I see the events announced on meetup, but ... that makes me feel dirty somehow. :) | 17:05 |
akk | Oh, NM, looks like meetup isn't mailing me about new events any more anyway (I just checked the page and there's a bunch of stuff I had no idea was happening). | 17:07 |
pleia2 | :\ | 17:08 |
pleia2 | ok, here's my first stab at a checklist https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/HowTo | 17:33 |
darthrobot` | Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects/HowTo - Ubuntu Wiki] | 17:33 |
akk | pleia2: Two things I would add: 1. Mention how to add to the portal (e.g. "Log in and click 'Add new event') -- I know that seems obvious but if it saves a few minutes of clicking around, it might increase the changes people will do it. | 17:39 |
akk | 2. Suggest how long before an event to add it, e.g. you don't want people adding events the day before if they've known about it for three weeks. | 17:39 |
akk | Maybe just something like, Add events as early as possible, so people can get them on their calendars and keep the day free. | 17:41 |
pleia2 | akk: thanks! | 17:43 |
akk | and that should have been "increase the chances", not changes, of course. :) | 17:44 |
pleia2 | ok, done | 17:55 |
akk | Aha, I did get notifications for those new meetup events, just today (even though one of them is scheduled for today :) | 17:57 |
akk | They're not ubuntu hours anyway, so probably not worth listing on our site. But I'll try adding the next UH I see announced. | 17:58 |
pleia2 | there's an event today? :\ | 17:59 |
* pleia2 sighs | 17:59 | |
akk | There's somebody with a space in San Mateo who apparently decided he wants people to show up and help him install 12.04 on a bunch of old machines | 18:01 |
akk | (I think that's what he's saying, anyway -- not entirely clear) | 18:01 |
pleia2 | hm, I seem to have gotten a notification for one happening on the 25th | 18:02 |
akk | and apparently scheduled it both for today and for next Sunday, but I'm not clear whether that's a reschedule or if he really wants people there both weeks. | 18:02 |
akk | I got the 25th notification right before the 18th notification in my mail. | 18:02 |
akk | The discussion is all under the 18th page. | 18:03 |
akk | I'm not clear what these computers are, who they're intended for or anything else. | 18:03 |
pleia2 | logged into meetup, looks like it's happening both days | 18:03 |
akk | Ah, I see, "Stop by today if you like, and definitely on the 25th!" | 18:04 |
akk | If it's a charity thing like Partimus, I'd be interested (except I can't make it on the 25th anyway). | 18:04 |
pleia2 | ok, time for me to take a break, else I'll quit the loco, open source and start spending all my volunteer time with the marine mammal center ;) | 18:05 |
pleia2 | meeting at 7 tonight! | 18:05 |
akk | http://www.re-computer.org/ says "e-waste recycling and computer thrift store" | 18:05 |
darthrobot` | Title: [re-computer.org | restoring hardware for the common good] | 18:05 |
akk | Seeya tonight, pleia2! Go do something fun. | 18:06 |
pleia2 | :) | 18:06 |
akk | volunteering with marine mammals would be tres awesome. | 18:06 |
akk | (but don't do it, we need you here :) | 18:06 |
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