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pleia2akk: were you able to make it to the mt view ubuntu hour?16:49
akkpleia2: I was. It was small, only 5 people, but fun anyway.16:49
pleia2been trying to get ahold of some of the people running it to get DVDs down there, but no one is responding to my email :(16:49
akkHmph!16:49
pleia2they didn't announce it to the mailing list or put it on the loco.ubuntu.com site either, so I'm not sure what's going on16:50
pleia2and I'm not sure what to do16:50
akkYeah, sigh. Meetup is working well, but I have to think a lot of that is just that the event is actually announced there.16:50
pleia2to be honest it's not really an ubuntu california event if they're not even telling the rest of the team about it16:51
akkWould much rather have a non-proprietary place where things were announced.16:51
pleia2agreed16:51
akkTrue. Sadly.16:51
pleia2you can't even see the events without signing up16:51
akkMeetup is annoying and I can heartily understand people not wanting to sign up for it.16:51
* pleia2 nods16:51
akkThough it is admittedly a good way to reach non-connected or not-so-techy people -- they seem to like it.16:52
pleia2I'm thinking maybe I put together a little wiki page that describes the steps to host an event with the team16:52
akkThat would be helpful!16:52
pleia2we've gone from very strict "you must get permission and do full reports" to a looseness which people have taken to an extreme where they don't even bother telling the rest of us they're doing something16:52
akkY'know, when I look for a list of upcoming ubuntu hours it always takes me several minutes of clicking around to find anything.16:53
pleia2yeah, you should just be able to go to ubuntu-california.org and click "events"16:53
akkRight.16:53
pleia2San Jose has gotten a lot better at adding theirs :) http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/events/history16:54
darthrobot`Title: [Ubuntu California Events History | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]16:54
akkIs there any way to get them onto the page you get when you click "Events"? All I see there now is the IRC meeting.16:55
pleia2that link is past events16:55
pleia2there aren't any scheduled right now so there aren't any on the "Events" page16:56
* pleia2 goes to add next SF one16:56
akkIt's showing is Ubuntu California Team Meeting on Sunday, 18 Nov. 2012 at 19:00 PST16:56
pleia2right, that's the only thing right now16:56
akkBut if I click on All Events, it says there are no events, I guess the meeting doesn't count.16:57
pleia2yeah, a "Meeting" is a meeting, Events are separate16:57
akkThat's really confusing.16:58
akkI went to events, it showed me a meeting, I clicked on all events, suddenly the meeting wasn't there any more.16:58
akkIt's sometimes an event and sometimes not.16:58
pleia2yeah, that's why I just link to the main page from our website :)16:58
pleia2no need for people to click around, everything is on that page16:58
pleia2unfortunately loco.ubuntu.com doesn't have active django developers beyond bug fixes16:59
pleia2ok, SF one is added, so now you should be able to see on when you go to http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california17:00
darthrobot`Title: [Ubuntu California | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]17:00
akkyep17:01
akkY'know, yesterday a non-ubuntu friend was lamenting how people in his activist group aren't techie, they won't use calendaring (like google calendar) for scheduling17:02
pleia2hehe17:02
akkthey insist on scheduling things by announcing them on a mailing list or facebook and nowhere else17:02
akkand I had to tell him well, guess what, even in techie groups specifically oriented to computers, the exact same thing happens.17:03
pleia2I'm very glad loco.ubuntu.com at least has the working calendar, that's what I use to update twitter and everything17:03
pleia2(which means mountain view doesn't get to twitter when it's not in loco.ubuntu...)17:03
akkyep17:03
pleia2I think our problem is that people don't use the tools, not that they don't exist17:03
akkI'd offer to be the one to update the MV ones, except it seems like I'm always the one asking "Hey, is there an MV UH tomorrow?"17:04
pleia2haha, yeah, you asking that is usually what reminds me there should be and start asking around17:04
pleia2I did ask the SV folks if they could assign someone to do it, but didn't get much of a response17:04
akkI think I said the same thing then, something like "I'll be happy to update the pages if you tell me when the events are" :)17:05
akkI guess I could try updating the loco page when I see the events announced on meetup, but ... that makes me feel dirty somehow. :)17:05
akkOh, NM, looks like meetup isn't mailing me about new events any more anyway (I just checked the page and there's a bunch of stuff I had no idea was happening).17:07
pleia2:\17:08
pleia2ok, here's my first stab at a checklist https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/HowTo17:33
darthrobot`Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects/HowTo - Ubuntu Wiki]17:33
akkpleia2: Two things I would add: 1. Mention how to add to the portal (e.g. "Log in and click 'Add new event') -- I know that seems obvious but if it saves a few minutes of clicking around, it might increase the changes people will do it.17:39
akk2. Suggest how long before an event to add it, e.g. you don't want people adding events the day before if they've known about it for three weeks.17:39
akkMaybe just something like, Add events as early as possible, so people can get them on their calendars and keep the day free.17:41
pleia2akk: thanks!17:43
akkand that should have been "increase the chances", not changes, of course. :)17:44
pleia2ok, done17:55
akkAha, I did get notifications for those new meetup events, just today (even though one of them is scheduled for today :)17:57
akkThey're not ubuntu hours anyway, so probably not worth listing on our site. But I'll try adding the next UH I see announced.17:58
pleia2there's an event today? :\17:59
* pleia2 sighs17:59
akkThere's somebody with a space in San Mateo who apparently decided he wants people to show up and help him install 12.04 on a bunch of old machines18:01
akk(I think that's what he's saying, anyway -- not entirely clear)18:01
pleia2hm, I seem to have gotten a notification for one happening on the 25th18:02
akkand apparently scheduled it both for today and for next Sunday, but I'm not clear whether that's a reschedule or if he really wants people there both weeks.18:02
akkI got the 25th notification right before the 18th notification in my mail.18:02
akkThe discussion is all under the 18th page.18:03
akkI'm not clear what these computers are, who they're intended for or anything else.18:03
pleia2logged into meetup, looks like it's happening both days18:03
akkAh, I see, "Stop by today if you like, and definitely on the 25th!"18:04
akkIf it's a charity thing like Partimus, I'd be interested (except I can't make it on the 25th anyway).18:04
pleia2ok, time for me to take a break, else I'll quit the loco, open source and start spending all my volunteer time with the marine mammal center ;)18:05
pleia2meeting at 7 tonight!18:05
akkhttp://www.re-computer.org/ says "e-waste recycling and computer thrift store"18:05
darthrobot`Title: [re-computer.org | restoring hardware for the common good]18:05
akkSeeya tonight, pleia2! Go do something fun.18:06
pleia2:)18:06
akkvolunteering with marine mammals would be tres awesome.18:06
akk(but don't do it, we need you here :)18:06

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