[16:49] akk: were you able to make it to the mt view ubuntu hour? [16:49] pleia2: I was. It was small, only 5 people, but fun anyway. [16:49] been trying to get ahold of some of the people running it to get DVDs down there, but no one is responding to my email :( [16:49] Hmph! [16:50] they didn't announce it to the mailing list or put it on the loco.ubuntu.com site either, so I'm not sure what's going on [16:50] and I'm not sure what to do [16:50] Yeah, sigh. Meetup is working well, but I have to think a lot of that is just that the event is actually announced there. [16:51] to be honest it's not really an ubuntu california event if they're not even telling the rest of the team about it [16:51] Would much rather have a non-proprietary place where things were announced. [16:51] agreed [16:51] True. Sadly. [16:51] you can't even see the events without signing up [16:51] Meetup is annoying and I can heartily understand people not wanting to sign up for it. [16:51] * pleia2 nods [16:52] Though it is admittedly a good way to reach non-connected or not-so-techy people -- they seem to like it. [16:52] I'm thinking maybe I put together a little wiki page that describes the steps to host an event with the team [16:52] That would be helpful! [16:52] we've gone from very strict "you must get permission and do full reports" to a looseness which people have taken to an extreme where they don't even bother telling the rest of us they're doing something [16:53] Y'know, when I look for a list of upcoming ubuntu hours it always takes me several minutes of clicking around to find anything. [16:53] yeah, you should just be able to go to ubuntu-california.org and click "events" [16:53] Right. [16:54] San Jose has gotten a lot better at adding theirs :) http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/events/history [16:54] Title: [Ubuntu California Events History | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal] [16:55] Is there any way to get them onto the page you get when you click "Events"? All I see there now is the IRC meeting. [16:55] that link is past events [16:56] there aren't any scheduled right now so there aren't any on the "Events" page [16:56] * pleia2 goes to add next SF one [16:56] It's showing is Ubuntu California Team Meeting on Sunday, 18 Nov. 2012 at 19:00 PST [16:56] right, that's the only thing right now [16:57] But if I click on All Events, it says there are no events, I guess the meeting doesn't count. [16:57] yeah, a "Meeting" is a meeting, Events are separate [16:58] That's really confusing. [16:58] I went to events, it showed me a meeting, I clicked on all events, suddenly the meeting wasn't there any more. [16:58] It's sometimes an event and sometimes not. [16:58] yeah, that's why I just link to the main page from our website :) [16:58] no need for people to click around, everything is on that page [16:59] unfortunately loco.ubuntu.com doesn't have active django developers beyond bug fixes [17:00] ok, SF one is added, so now you should be able to see on when you go to http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california [17:00] Title: [Ubuntu California | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal] [17:01] yep [17:02] Y'know, yesterday a non-ubuntu friend was lamenting how people in his activist group aren't techie, they won't use calendaring (like google calendar) for scheduling [17:02] hehe [17:02] they insist on scheduling things by announcing them on a mailing list or facebook and nowhere else [17:03] and I had to tell him well, guess what, even in techie groups specifically oriented to computers, the exact same thing happens. [17:03] I'm very glad loco.ubuntu.com at least has the working calendar, that's what I use to update twitter and everything [17:03] (which means mountain view doesn't get to twitter when it's not in loco.ubuntu...) [17:03] yep [17:03] I think our problem is that people don't use the tools, not that they don't exist [17:04] I'd offer to be the one to update the MV ones, except it seems like I'm always the one asking "Hey, is there an MV UH tomorrow?" [17:04] haha, yeah, you asking that is usually what reminds me there should be and start asking around [17:04] I did ask the SV folks if they could assign someone to do it, but didn't get much of a response [17:05] I think I said the same thing then, something like "I'll be happy to update the pages if you tell me when the events are" :) [17:05] I guess I could try updating the loco page when I see the events announced on meetup, but ... that makes me feel dirty somehow. :) [17:07] Oh, NM, looks like meetup isn't mailing me about new events any more anyway (I just checked the page and there's a bunch of stuff I had no idea was happening). [17:08] :\ [17:33] ok, here's my first stab at a checklist https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/HowTo [17:33] Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects/HowTo - Ubuntu Wiki] [17:39] pleia2: Two things I would add: 1. Mention how to add to the portal (e.g. "Log in and click 'Add new event') -- I know that seems obvious but if it saves a few minutes of clicking around, it might increase the changes people will do it. [17:39] 2. Suggest how long before an event to add it, e.g. you don't want people adding events the day before if they've known about it for three weeks. [17:41] Maybe just something like, Add events as early as possible, so people can get them on their calendars and keep the day free. [17:43] akk: thanks! [17:44] and that should have been "increase the chances", not changes, of course. :) [17:55] ok, done [17:57] Aha, I did get notifications for those new meetup events, just today (even though one of them is scheduled for today :) [17:58] They're not ubuntu hours anyway, so probably not worth listing on our site. But I'll try adding the next UH I see announced. [17:59] there's an event today? :\ [17:59] * pleia2 sighs [18:01] There's somebody with a space in San Mateo who apparently decided he wants people to show up and help him install 12.04 on a bunch of old machines [18:01] (I think that's what he's saying, anyway -- not entirely clear) [18:02] hm, I seem to have gotten a notification for one happening on the 25th [18:02] and apparently scheduled it both for today and for next Sunday, but I'm not clear whether that's a reschedule or if he really wants people there both weeks. [18:02] I got the 25th notification right before the 18th notification in my mail. [18:03] The discussion is all under the 18th page. [18:03] I'm not clear what these computers are, who they're intended for or anything else. [18:03] logged into meetup, looks like it's happening both days [18:04] Ah, I see, "Stop by today if you like, and definitely on the 25th!" [18:04] If it's a charity thing like Partimus, I'd be interested (except I can't make it on the 25th anyway). [18:05] ok, time for me to take a break, else I'll quit the loco, open source and start spending all my volunteer time with the marine mammal center ;) [18:05] meeting at 7 tonight! [18:05] http://www.re-computer.org/ says "e-waste recycling and computer thrift store" [18:05] Title: [re-computer.org | restoring hardware for the common good] [18:06] Seeya tonight, pleia2! Go do something fun. [18:06] :) [18:06] volunteering with marine mammals would be tres awesome. [18:06] (but don't do it, we need you here :)