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Kilosmorning all05:24
Kilosohi Frankko welcome to ubuntu-za07:01
Kiloshi psydroid 07:01
psydroidhi Kilos08:13
Kilosmodem steal for a while08:39
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Kiloshi superfly and others10:04
Vince-0Haaiu10:09
Kiloshey superfly i got ians 500G drive fixed and installed 12.04 kubuntu from the dvd i burned with k3b and i didnt get the black screen10:09
Kiloshi Vince-0 10:09
Kilosthe desktop effects fault the sick install had10:10
Kilossame pc10:10
superflyKilos: that's good news10:11
Kilosya i wonder whats the diffs though? same iso10:16
Kilosbut still dont see modem. sigh10:17
Kilosgrrr10:17
TaraLSYo.11:11
TaraLSNeither my tablet nor my printer/scanner works in Ubuntu11:12
TaraLSSo I have to reinstall that other disgusting OS, Windows, alongside Ubuntu.11:12
TaraLSBut apparently this will destroy the Grub or something?11:12
Kilosprinter make and model?11:15
TaraLSMy Printer is a Lexmark X835011:21
TaraLSIt's not compatible.11:21
TaraLSI've researched and researched11:21
TaraLSShort of looking up how to change something in Ubuntu's code11:21
TaraLSWhich I'd rather not do. At least not on my own11:21
Kilos Maaz google setting up a Lexmark X8350 on ubuntu 12.0411:22
MaazKilos: "HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkPrinters - Ubuntu" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkPrinters :: "PRINT HEAD » system-config-printer" http://cyberelk.net/tim/software/system-config-printer/ :: "Lexmark support questions and answers" http://www.helpowl.com/Lexmark/Questions :: "Gutenprint Printer Drivers"11:22
Maazhttp://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/11:22
Kilostry this one  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkPrinters11:22
Kilosis it plugged in?11:23
TaraLSNot at the moment. I figured it was pointless since it doesn't actually work.11:23
TaraLSUbuntu sees it, just like it sees my tablet, but it won't work.11:23
Kilosits just drivers needed11:23
TaraLShttp://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=139&t=98347&p=254149#p25414911:24
TaraLSThere are no Ubuntu drivers. Otherwise I would have got them.11:24
TaraLSbrb11:24
Kilosian also had probs with printer scanner thing but got it going after a pile of work11:29
TaraLSThat site doesn't mention my printer11:42
Kilosai11:42
Kilosmust still be working on it11:43
TaraLSI tried printers via SAMBA too11:43
TaraLSAnd I dunno what URI means11:43
Kilosnor me11:43
Kilosrussian name11:43
Kilosif 12.10 sees it when plugged in try simplescan. dunno if thats still in by default11:48
superflyUniform Resource Indicator, similar to the Uniform Resource Location people use on a daily basis.11:48
Kilosty superfly 11:49
TaraLSThanks supahflahhh.11:49
TaraLSWhat's simplescan?11:49
TaraLSThis effort is for nought at present.11:50
TaraLSI need to use my tablet the most, and to do that, I need Windows.11:51
Kilosi used it for scanning with maverick11:52
Kilosdidnt need any setting up just worked11:52
TaraLSAh.11:53
TaraLSWell11:53
TaraLSHow do I get it?11:53
Kilossec11:53
TaraLSBecause i tried printing from a firefox page, and it didn't even show that there were any issues, but it didn't go through either.11:53
KilosMaaz, google simplescan for 12.1011:53
MaazKilos: "Simple scan not working after upgrading to 12.10 - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/205427/simple-scan-not-working-after-upgrading-to-12-10-xubuntu :: "UbuntuUpdates - Package "simple-scan" (quantal 12.10)" http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/simple-scan :: "“simple-scan” source package : Quantal (12.10) : Ubuntu"11:53
Maazhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/simple-scan :: "3.6.0-0ubuntu1 : simple-scan : i386 : Quantal (12.10) : Ubuntu" …11:53
Kilosmight be in synaptic TaraLS 11:53
TaraLSYou realize this isn't gonna stop me from having to install Windows11:54
Kilosif its in synaptic install it from there and it will work11:54
TaraLSI've apparently got simple scan already.11:54
Kilosok in dash type simple and it should show11:55
Kilosadd =scan if not11:55
Kilos-scan11:55
Kilosoh and you can install windows in a virtual drive in ubuntu11:56
TaraLSNo scanners detected11:56
TaraLSEven though it's plugged in and switched on11:56
TaraLS*shrug*11:56
TaraLSOkay, how do I install Windows in a virtual drive?11:56
Kiloswhew11:56
KilosMaaz, google setting up a virtual drive for windows in 12.1011:57
MaazKilos: "OS X Mountain Lion confirmed to support Fusion Drive on legacy Macs" http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/10/31/os-x-mountain-lion-offers-fusion-drive-support-on-legacy-macs :: "How to Run Ubuntu in Windows 8 Hyper-V Quickly - ServeTheHome" http://www.servethehome.com/run-ubuntu-windows-8-hyper-v-quickly/ :: "Installing Ubuntu inside Windows using11:57
MaazVirtualBox" http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox :: "How To Set Up Compiz In Xubuntu 12.10 O…11:57
Kilosoh my11:57
TaraLSHm11:57
Kilosvirtualbox11:57
Kilosin synaptic11:57
TaraLSVirtualbox - x86 virtualization solution - base binaries11:57
TaraLSThat one?11:57
superflyyes11:57
TaraLSkk11:58
TaraLSDo I need to get any of the other packages related to it, or no?11:58
TaraLSAlso, Kilos, I guess I'll need to delete the /spare folder I have so I have space for Windows, yes?11:58
Kilosdoesnt it choose on its own11:58
Kilosno11:58
Kilosyou got plenty space there methinks11:59
TaraLSOyes. It did choose on its own11:59
TaraLSBut I used all my space into separate folder/things for Ubuntu11:59
TaraLSI've got no free space left. Is that how that works?11:59
Kiloswow you filled 100 gig already11:59
TaraLSno11:59
Kilosi forget the sizes we made12:00
TaraLSI'm saying... The folders are used up for Ubuntu. Not full at all, but yeah...12:00
Kilosno prob12:00
TaraLSOkay.12:00
Kilosbut if the virtualbox can install to /spare thats kiff12:00
TaraLSWell that's what I was meaning12:00
Kilosim not a virtual drive person12:00
TaraLSI'd need to install Windows to something that I'm currently using12:00
TaraLSFor the space.12:00
Kilostry keep win off my pc12:01
TaraLSThat doesn't instill confidence.12:01
TaraLSYeah, well, I hate Windows, and I don't want more blue screens, but I need my tablet.12:01
Kiloswell not many guys here at the moment12:01
Kilosinstall virtualbox wherever it wants to go to start with12:01
TaraLS"Go to start"?12:02
TaraLSIt installed itself.12:02
Kilossome of the guys use virtualbox for trying out other systems in12:02
Kiloslol12:02
Kilostell it ty12:02
TaraLSSo would I be able to install drivers of things on virtual Windows?12:02
TaraLSHm.12:03
Kilosi think that you now can install from the cds you have into there12:03
TaraLSLooks pretty self-explanatory.12:03
TaraLSOkay, I'ma try this.12:03
TaraLSbrb.12:03
TaraLSI like virtualbox already12:04
TaraLSbut12:04
Kiloswb what happened12:04
TaraLSIt's asking for me to set the base amount of memory to be used for Windows12:04
TaraLSAnd it apparently is at least 592mb.12:04
TaraLSBut I might need at least 1 gig because I'll be using Photoshop/graphics.12:04
Kilosthats fine12:04
Kilosyou got 4 g to play with12:05
TaraLSOkay.12:05
TaraLSI just wanted to be sure it wouldn't tax Ubuntu or something12:05
Kilosits your pc that will get taxed not ubuntu12:05
TaraLSLike I said, just wanted to be sure.12:05
Kilosmight run a bit slow there12:06
TaraLSOkay12:06
Kilosbecause its on OS running in another one12:06
TaraLSI can create a hard disk or use one already12:06
TaraLSI guess the use one already would be selecting /spare, right?12:06
TaraLSYeah.12:06
Kiloscreate i think12:06
TaraLSIt recommends 10 gigs12:06
Kilosit will be called C;12:06
TaraLSI don't have 10 spare gigs.12:06
Kilosthats good12:06
Kilosaw12:06
TaraLSHm....12:07
Kilosdoes ubuntu say so12:07
TaraLSI'm saying so. BEcause I used all my gigs for these disks for Ubuntu12:07
TaraLSWhich is why I asked if I should put it onto /spare12:07
TaraLSI think that's how it works12:07
TaraLSIt's asking me to choose a file type12:07
Kiloslemme look at your photoshot of the setup12:07
TaraLSVirtualbox Disk Image?12:07
TaraLSVirtual Machine Disk12:07
TaraLSVirtual Hard Disk12:07
TaraLSParallels Hard Disk12:07
TaraLSOkay.12:07
Kiloswhew12:07
Kilosmaybe superfly can help12:08
TaraLSK, I'll wait for Superfly.12:08
Kilosim lost unless i can see it in front of me12:08
TaraLSWell hang on12:08
TaraLSit says, above the options12:08
Kilosor any other guy that uses virtual machines12:08
Kilosnuvolari, ping12:09
TaraLS"Please choose the type of file that you would like to use for the new virtual disk. If you do not need to use it with other virtualization software you can leave this setting unchanges"12:09
superflythe defaults are fine12:09
TaraLSunchanged*12:09
Kilosk12:09
TaraLSSo I can leave it on Virtual Disk Image?12:09
Kilosspose so12:09
superflyyes12:09
TaraLSOkay12:09
TaraLSAnd 'fixed size' or 'dynamically allocated'?12:10
TaraLS'fixed size' sounds better, but it's automatically on dynamic12:10
superflydynamically12:10
TaraLSok12:10
Kilosno default?12:10
Kilosah12:10
TaraLSFile type: 12:11
TaraLSVDI (VirtualBox Disk Image)12:11
TaraLSDetails: 12:11
TaraLSDynamically allocated storage12:11
TaraLSLocation: 12:11
TaraLS/home/tara-lynn/VirtualBox VMs/Windows Alongside Ubuntu/Windows Alongside Ubuntu.vdi12:11
TaraLSSize: 12:11
TaraLS10.81 GB (11607416832 B)12:11
TaraLSo.O12:11
TaraLSHow many lines consitutes spam?12:11
TaraLSAnd do I need my disc for this, or can I choose any OS? *wriggles fingers*12:12
Kilos512:13
TaraLSWhoops.12:13
Kilosum choose xp12:13
TaraLSI did already. I just thought it would be cool to try a newer one if I could12:13
TaraLSMaybe less problematic12:13
Kilosall your cds are for xp right12:13
TaraLSYeah12:14
TaraLSWell12:14
TaraLSMy installation disc is XP12:14
TaraLSMy others are just Windows12:14
Kilosso they wont work on vista or 712:14
TaraLSNot XP-specific12:14
Kilos?12:14
Kilosah12:14
Kilosuse the os you are used to12:14
Kilosvista and 7 are hard work12:14
TaraLSThey're not too bad12:14
Kilosand much slower that xp12:14
TaraLSBut I'll keep it to icky, senile XP12:15
Kilosthey eat resources12:15
TaraLSUm... Okay.12:15
TaraLSLet me see...12:15
TaraLSWell, I created it. It was... very quick. O.o12:15
TaraLSAnd I will try it now, but I'll sign out here first12:15
TaraLSSo brb.12:15
TaraLSNever mind. I still have to 'create process for virtual machine 'Ubuntu Alongside Windows'.12:20
TaraLSAnd it seems to be stuck at zero12:21
Kiloslets see if there a link to help setup virtualbox12:22
TaraLSOh wait12:22
TaraLSI found a hidden window with a 'next' button12:22
TaraLS*click*12:22
KilosMaaz, google setting up virtualbox on 12.1012:22
MaazKilos: "Using Ubuntu 12.10 under VirtualBox and cannot remove black ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/217903/using-ubuntu-12-10-under-virtualbox-and-cannot-remove-black-panels-in-the-virtua :: "12.10 - VirtualBox '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' issue - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/205154/virtualbox-etc-init-d-vboxdrv-setup-issue :: "Error building main12:22
MaazGuest Additions Module while installing ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/204098/error-…12:22
Kilosoh my12:25
TaraLS?12:25
Kilosthose links didnt help12:26
TaraLSI'm installing XP from disc as if it's a normal install, only it's on virtualbox.12:26
TaraLSlol I know12:26
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Kilosty for the guidance superfly 12:36
Kiloshard work that other nick12:37
Kilossee you can never leave #ubuntu-za while i be still alive12:37
Kiloswith my last breathe i will release you12:38
Kilosfrom the bondage12:38
Kiloshehe12:38
Kilosyo hubx 12:48
TaraLSI quite like this virtualbox.12:49
TaraLSFirstly, my comp froze at 9% Windows setup (Comp had been on for about fourteen hours before that), so I just restarted and didn't open anything BUT virtualbox.12:50
Kilosgood12:50
TaraLSNow, should I set up my little Virtual Windows to do windows updates, or no?12:50
Kilosjust member if you go online with it you need antivirus and firewall12:50
TaraLSThat was gonna be my next question, blah.12:50
Kilosforget windows updates12:50
hubxhi all12:50
TaraLSMy comp always froze when I had Kaspersky up in Windows.12:50
Kilosavast antivirus12:50
TaraLSHi hubx.12:51
Kilosand zonealarm12:51
TaraLSAvast. Okay. One second.12:51
TaraLS*sniffle*12:52
TaraLSStupid Windows startup sound12:52
TaraLSI had grown so fond of it.12:52
TaraLSawmigawsh I'm using Windows on Ubuntu. Baha.12:53
Kiloslol12:53
TaraLSExcept12:54
TaraLSThe interwebs is not working on it for some reason12:54
Kilosmight need setting up12:55
TaraLSI did that already.12:55
Kilosi dunno bout that12:55
TaraLSMaybe just disconnect the cable and reconnect12:55
TaraLSSometimes that happens12:55
Kilosin xp?12:55
Kilos?12:55
TaraLSYes, I'm on xchat in Ubuntu12:55
Kilosi meant the xp settings12:56
TaraLSYes, it's set up to see the webs12:56
Kilosof course ubuntu works12:56
TaraLSbrb12:56
magespawnafternoon 12:59
Kiloshi magespawn 13:00
magespawnhey Kilos 13:00
magespawnin virtualbox you have to tell which network connection it is supposed to use13:01
Kilostell her please magespawn im lost with that13:03
Kiloswould allow xp online to start with and wouldnt have xp on here anyway13:03
magespawnwill see if I can find a link13:03
Kilosty13:03
magespawnhttp://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=1RIyoGZcZe8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1RIyoGZcZe813:05
Kilosty will pass that on13:06
Kiloswb TaraLS 13:06
TaraLSBlah13:06
Kiloshttp://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=1RIyoGZcZe8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1RIyoGZcZe813:06
TaraLSCan't get internet to work in virtualbox windows13:06
TaraLSIt even says that it's connected and firewalled13:06
Kilosmagespawn, gave that link to help you13:06
TaraLSInstead of just restarting VX windows, I'll stop virtualbox13:06
TaraLSThat's a youtube page.13:06
TaraLSThanks magespawn.13:06
magespawnhttp://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/15/installing-a-windows-xp-as-a-virtual-machine-on-virtualbox/13:08
magespawnthe first one is a youtube video but the mobile site, cause i am onna tablet13:08
magespawnnp yw13:08
TaraLS"Network connection in VirtualBox can be quite complex, no easy advice here. I can say it’s greatly improved in recent versions so if you are using older one then upgrade and try again.13:09
TaraLSWorks for me with Windows host and Windows or Ubuntu guests and ethernet router."13:09
TaraLSThat's all the guy says on that site.13:10
TaraLS"It's complex." Ooh. Helpful.13:10
magespawnbbl got to go put a window in13:10
TaraLSok13:10
Kilosdont cut your fingers magespawn 13:10
magespawndo a search for how to install win xp on virtualbox13:10
TaraLSIt's installed, though.13:10
TaraLSAnd it recognizes that the internet is 'connected' and 'firewalled'13:11
Kiloshi Tonberry 13:11
TaraLSBut it wont' work.13:11
TaraLSHello Tonberry.13:11
Tonberryhallo13:11
KilosMaaz, google xp on 12.10 virtualbox cant go online13:12
MaazKilos: "virtualbox.org • View topic - Ubuntu 12.10 "virtually" unusable" https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=51727 :: "[ubuntu] Virtualbox won't run in Ubuntu 12.10 - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2082194 :: "Newest 'virtualbox' Questions - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/virtualbox :: "VirtualBox 4.2.013:12
MaazReleased With Support For Drag'n'drop From Host ..." http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/virtual…13:12
Kilossigh13:12
TaraLSNothing ever goes smoothly.13:13
Kilosya murphy13:15
KilosMaaz, murphys law13:15
MaazIf something can give trouble, rest assured, it will13:15
TaraLSAh...13:17
TaraLSIn 'settings' on virtual box, before going into Windows XP, I selected the XP system and went to 'network'13:17
TaraLS"Enable Network Adapter" attached to:13:17
Kilosyay13:18
TaraLSNot attached, NAT, Bridged Adapter, Internal Network, Host-only Adapter, Generic Driver13:18
TaraLSwhich one should I select?13:18
Kilosnot sure13:19
TaraLSI'll just try one at a time, I guess.13:19
Kilosnat i think13:19
TaraLSIt's already on nAT13:19
Kilostry internal then13:19
Kilosor try one at a time as you said13:19
superflyTaraLS: use bridged13:19
TaraLSI was thinking bridged...13:20
TaraLSOne moment13:20
TaraLSYay it ACTUALLY works.13:21
TaraLSKilos, just go to avast.com or another site?13:21
Kilosgo to there13:22
Kilosthey should give their options13:22
Kilosyou want the free one13:23
TaraLSYes13:23
Kiloshttp://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download13:24
TaraLSlolololololololol13:25
Kiloswhat?13:25
TaraLS"Internet explorer cannot open the site avast etc etc..."13:25
TaraLS"Operation aborted"13:25
Kilosinstall firefox then13:26
Kilosie sucks13:26
Kilosalways has13:26
TaraLSI know13:26
TaraLSBut I wanted to use the basic to avoid harming my PC13:26
Kiloslol13:26
TaraLSI went down to basic Windows stuff before and it helped13:26
TaraLSDon't lol at that13:26
Kilosget opera13:26
TaraLSIt's frustrating when nothing works.13:26
Kilosvery light13:26
superflyTaraLS: you want to avoid harming the PC, so you used IE? that's a contradiciton13:26
superfly*contradiction13:26
Kiloslol13:26
TaraLSHeh...13:26
TaraLSLike I said, going back to basic Windows stuff helped the issue.13:27
TaraLSLessened the problems.13:27
TaraLSDespite that, yes, IE sucks big time.13:27
* superfly has parentals arriving soon, later13:27
KilosTaraLS,  http://en.kioskea.net/download/download-49-opera13:27
TaraLSSee ya.13:27
TaraLSI'm getting Firefox13:27
TaraLSw/e13:27
Kilostoods fly13:27
Kilosty fly13:28
TaraLSYep, thanks for the help.13:28
TaraLSZoneAlarm firewall?13:29
Kilosyip13:30
Kiloshere be the visitors we get13:36
Kilosno look my fat tummy13:36
Kiloshttp://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img688/9343/visitorc.jpg13:36
TaraLSlol13:42
TaraLSWho's the person next toyou?13:46
Kilosbrother outlaw13:46
TaraLSlol13:47
Kiloslong snake hey13:48
Kilosmethinks egytion cobra13:48
Kilosegyption cobra13:48
Kiloswhew13:49
Kilosegyptian13:50
Kiloswbb in 30 mins or so13:50
Kilosgonna move sheeps13:50
TaraLSIt's veeery long13:50
TaraLSAnd ok13:50
magespawnbut dead14:14
magespawnwindow puttt is not so good for touch screens14:14
magespawnputty even14:14
TaraLSAw14:15
Kilosonly good snake is a dead snake14:15
magespawnno then you have too many rats14:16
Kilosnope14:16
magespawnyes14:16
Kiloswonderful rat poison onna market14:16
magespawnthen that kills the owls14:16
Kilossnake eats 2 rats a week and rats breed 30 a week14:16
magespawnthen you have too many rats14:17
Kiloslol14:17
magespawnthat is why you need more snakes then rats14:17
TaraLSVirtualbox XP won't see my USB printer connected14:17
TaraLSI'm starting to hate USB. :D14:17
magespawnthe usb has to be enabled for the virtual machine i think same as the network, setting is somewhere14:18
TaraLSOkay14:18
Kilosand snakes eat dozens of eggs every week14:19
Kilosand kill the odd sheep that gets inna way14:19
Kilosand spit inna dogs eyes14:19
Tonberryyou usually also need to be in the vboxusers group to use usb pass through14:20
TaraLSWhat's 'usb pass through'?14:20
TaraLSOh14:22
TaraLSMy VB XP says that I haven't got Base System Device or Video Controller (VGA)14:23
TaraLSThey have question marks over them in the device manager14:23
TaraLSSays that the USB are enabled.14:24
magespawnthe question marks mean the windows does not have drivers for those devices14:26
TaraLSOn this forum, one person suggests that Guest Additions will help. Hm.14:27
TaraLSUgh, this isn't worth it.14:32
TaraLSSo sick of computer hassles. I just want to throw it through a wall.14:32
magespawnhah14:32
TaraLS:(14:33
magespawnthere is an extension of murphy's law, murphy's computer law14:33
* TaraLS pulls hair out.14:34
magespawnif something can go wrong it will, and nothing can go wrong like a computer14:34
TaraLSMore like "Everything that can go wrong will. Everything. Even stuff that shouldn't."14:34
Kilosyou sukkeling with what now?14:35
TaraLSI sukkel with everything computer-related these days.14:35
Kilosif you put the xp cd in and add/remove isnt there more relevant stuff you havent installed14:36
Kiloscontrol panel add/remove14:36
TaraLSI said nothing about not having add/remove, what.14:37
TaraLSI have add/remove.14:37
TaraLSI'm apparently missing Video Controller (VGA) and Base System Device14:38
magespawnyou'll need to get drivers from manufaturers website14:39
Kilosso put the cd in and see if its available on the cd14:39
TaraLSI tried the CD. And nope.14:39
Kilosmust be vga or svga on the cd14:39
TaraLSI don't even know what 'base system drivers' means14:39
TaraLSSo I dunno what website to go to14:39
Kiloshow else does it work with an xp install14:39
TaraLSThis is a virtual XP install14:40
TaraLSTypically, I don't have these driver issues when it's a proper install14:40
Kilosya but xp is xp so it should still see what hardware is in the pc14:40
TaraLSIf that's the case, then why did magespawn say that I'd need to enable the USB? They should already be enabled, since XP is XP, and it still should see what hardware is in the pc.14:42
Tonberryyou want to print from virtualbox with a usb printer?14:42
magespawnthe base system drivers are usually the intel/other make of motheboard chipset on the board14:42
TaraLStonberry: I have to. It doesn't work in Ubuntu.14:42
TaraLStonberry: I was just gonna reinstall windows properly, alongside Ubuntu, and then fix the grub or whatever, but Kilos suggested using virtualbox14:43
Tonberryi see14:43
magespawni meant enable them in the virtual box, that allows the xp to communicate through the virtual box to the ubuntu14:43
Tonberryhas the pc stopped crashing yet?14:43
magespawnlexmark printer Tonberry 14:43
magespawnno linux drivers14:44
TaraLSmagespawn: Oh?... I... have no idea. Is that possible?14:44
Tonberryi think my mother actually has a ubuntu friendly lexmark14:44
Tonberrybut printers are pretty hit and miss14:44
Tonberryin my experience14:44
magespawnKilos did you think of trying Wine rather than VirtualBox?14:44
TaraLSYeah. My printer is like the only one of one hundred million that doesn't work with Ubuntu. Go freaking figure.14:45
Tonberrywine for a printer driver?14:45
mazalAfternoon all14:45
Kilosai ive had horrble crashes with wine14:45
TaraLSHello mazal14:45
TaraLSTonberry: Computer still freezes14:45
magespawnTaraLS: i think so somewhere in the virtual box settings for that machine14:45
Kilosbut its worth a try seeing as she not paying 3g data prices14:45
magespawnjust a thought14:45
magespawnTaraLS: so it has to be hardware then14:46
Kilosmaybe 12.10's wine is more advanced14:46
Tonberrydrivers in wine are near impossible14:46
TaraLS...14:46
TaraLSI give up.14:46
TaraLSThere, the computer defeated me.14:46
TaraLSI don't want to deal with it anymore.14:46
TaraLSThanks for your help, guys.14:46
Tonberryhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB14:46
Tonberrynow i must go14:46
Kilosty Tonberry 14:47
TaraLSThanks, Tonberry.14:48
magespawnso much for the stubborn part14:53
magespawnlol14:53
Kiloslol14:54
Kilosits like 2am there14:54
magespawni feel so used does not even stick around for conversation14:55
magespawnlol14:55
Kiloshehe14:55
magespawndoes ahe work Kilos?14:56
Kilosnope she does freelance art from home14:56
magespawnahh14:57
magespawnwhat kind of art?14:57
Kilosand looks after debs whos really struggling with AS14:57
Kilosdevian14:57
Kiloswhatever that is14:57
magespawndebs? AS?14:57
Kilosand does drawings fo peeps um14:57
magespawnahh right got it14:57
Kilosthem faces?14:57
Kilosdebbie her mom and AS ankylosing spondilitus14:58
Kilosavatars14:58
magespawnahh14:58
* magespawn 's light bulb comes on14:59
Kilosand the pc trouble has killed her ability to draw14:59
Kiloslol14:59
Kilosdebs hasnt been able to work for 7 or 8 weeks now15:00
Kilosstruggling some15:00
magespawnnow i understand the drive to get it fixed15:00
Kilosya15:00
Kilosand the frustration when things dont work15:00
Kilosthrows toys outa cot15:01
Kilosalso used to mom being there to do things now shoes on other foot15:03
Kilosi try find you a link to her disease15:03
Kilosits terrible15:03
mazalWhat can cause ubuntu to refuse to shutdown ?15:04
magespawnfound one already Kilos15:04
Kiloshttp://thefacesofankylosingspondylitis.com/a-s-face-0691-debra/15:05
Kilosshe just joined this group15:05
Kilossudo reboot15:05
Kiloshi mazal 15:05
mazalLo oom Kilos 15:05
Kilossudo reboot should work mazal 15:06
mazalMy ubuntu starts to shutdown , shows the splash screen with the dots , then just hangs there15:06
Kilosoh my15:06
Kilossudo aptitude reinstall upstart15:06
Kilosi think that was it15:07
mazalIt never had a problem , just suddenly started15:07
Kilossome bug krept in15:07
Kiloscrept15:08
mazalAnd only changes that was made was xchat-gnome gone and xchat installed15:08
mazalAnd the normal updates of course15:08
Kilossomething from the net15:08
Kilosdont ask the fly or pro they will say thats why they used kubuntu15:09
Kilosand they dont have those probs15:09
Kiloshehe15:09
magespawnand error's mazal?15:09
mazalI am so tyred of bugs in oses15:09
mazalIt doesn't show anything magespawn , just the splash screen and hangs15:09
magespawnhmmm15:10
mazalI can't remember how to get the terminal screen while shutting down to see at which point is hangs15:10
Kilostry renstall upstart mazal 15:10
timkellerGood weekend peeps15:11
Kilosi had a prob once and upstart fixed it15:11
Kiloshi timkeller 15:11
magespawnhey timkeller15:11
timkeller'ello15:11
Kilosfaulty h there15:12
Kiloshehe15:12
mazalOk re-installed that. Will see what happens when I shutdown15:13
KilosMaaz, google 12.04 hangs on shutdown15:14
MaazKilos: "nvidia - 12.04 hangs on shutdown/reboot - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/131525/12-04-hangs-on-shutdown-reboot :: "Ubuntu 12.04 hangs on shutdown and restart - Launchpad.net" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1002429 :: "Ubuntu 12.04 hangs on shutdown - Launchpad Answers" https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+question/195220 :: "Bug15:14
Maaz#1010045 “12.04 hangs on shutdown deconfiguring network ..." https://bugs.launchpad.net…15:14
Kilosthere been some bugs looks like15:14
Kilosbut weird afte so long15:14
Kilosafter15:14
Kiloshey magespawn i got a very sick pc to sort out15:15
Kilosecs mb15:16
magespawnokay what's wrong with it?15:16
Kilosworks half way through an install then hangs15:16
Kilosnext try screen flashes on and off15:16
Kilosand lotsa weird things happen15:16
magespawnhave you taken it apart yet?15:17
Kilosi took the drive to my other pc and bios said i had changed my cpu and needed to do settings15:17
Kilosyip added 1g ddr215:17
Kilosand removed the 512m15:17
Kiloswas a bit better15:18
magespawndo you have an external dock for testing hard drives?15:18
Kilosthen when it got hot it flashed screen on and off15:18
magespawnxp?15:18
Kilosnope15:18
Kiloskde15:18
magespawnhmm15:18
Kilosmethinks cpu15:18
Kilosor psu on the outside15:19
Kilosonboard graphics15:19
magespawnor motheboard, but check the cpu remove clean and reseat, with new thermal paste15:19
Kiloscant install any ms product at all15:19
magespawnremove any added cards etc15:20
Kiloswill try that15:20
magespawntry it using only the one drive and no cd rom or anything else15:20
Kilosits ians and when he was using kde to clean other peeps virii of their drives it crashed his pc15:20
Kilosmaybe bios corrupt too15:20
mazalwbb15:21
magespawnide1  or sata drives?15:21
Kiloseven though i had battery out and set to defaults again15:21
Kilosall drives give probs15:21
Kilosive tried lotsa stuff15:21
Kilosif i was cleverer id flash the bios to start with15:21
magespawnsounds like one those that is going to take awhile15:22
magespawncan be done15:22
Kiloslol yeah been 3 days already15:22
Kilosnow i parked it aside15:22
Kilosim scared of the flashing15:22
magespawncheck the mb for any visual signs of damage15:22
Kilosneed new bios on stiffy first15:23
magespawnonly flash as last option15:23
Kilosyeah i bang that15:23
Kilosbut if crashed while cleaning other drives15:23
Kilosso it musta been a clever virus that sneaked past clamav15:24
magespawnhave you tried memtest?15:24
magespawnthat does happen sometimes15:24
Kilosits got a new 1g ddr2 i had for that mb you sentr me cpu for15:24
magespawnmaybe swop the slots15:25
Kilosi have15:25
Kilos3 times15:25
Kiloshehe15:25
magespawnthere are utilities that also test the harddrives and other components15:25
Kilostried an xp install and it keeps saying cant find this or that file so its not copying properly to mb15:26
Kilosi have the drive running on my other pc now with kde15:26
Kilosruns fine15:26
magespawnmaybe try a graphics card if it does  not have one15:26
Kilosdont have one it hasnt got a normal slot15:27
Kilossome express thing needed15:27
magespawni have used multiple xp cd-roms with a single install before15:27
Kiloslol i tried 3 as well15:27
Kilossounds weird hey15:28
magespawnhah sounds  more and more like the mb15:28
Kilosi have 2 oem cds and one that doesnt ask to go activate winsucks after 2 weeks or something15:28
Kilosyip something there15:28
Kilosbios cpu or some thing15:29
Kilosweird15:29
Kilosand it was a lekker fast pc with only 512m ram15:29
Kilosnow it be siiiick15:30
Kiloswb mazal 15:30
Kilosfixed?15:30
mazalIt rebooted when I said shutdown15:30
Kiloslol15:30
Kilossomething corrupt15:31
Kilosor its not set for english so didnt understand15:31
mazalGonna try the shutdown -n now next time15:31
Kilosbut it didnt hang15:32
mazalNo it didn't hang15:32
Kilosoh i had it once where pc kept rebooting15:32
Kiloshmmm15:32
Kilosi think upstart fixed that too15:33
Kiloshave you tried recovery mode in grub boot menu15:33
Kilosor fsck15:33
Kilossudo touch /forcefsck15:33
* mazal writes command down15:33
Kilosyou enter it now and it will fsck on booting15:34
mazalI wonder if one can set it to fsck on every say 5 boots15:38
mazalI know ubuntu does it on every 30 or so15:38
mazalCan that value be changed ?15:38
Kilosjust used touch when you need it15:39
Kilosor recovery in grub menu15:39
magespawnthere is probable a setting some where to control that15:43
magespawnhere you go http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30047715:45
magespawnlok like there are options there, and a script as well15:51
mazalNice read , thanx magespawn 15:51
magespawnyw15:51
magespawngood for me too15:51
mazalKilos , that command you gave me , does it check only the / filesystem , or all partitions ?15:51
Kiloslol i dunno15:52
Kilosi just know it fixes things15:52
Kiloshaha magespawn i just woke up15:59
Kiloscouldnt figure why kde doesnt show screensavers15:59
Kilosthey not installed hey?15:59
KilosMaaz, have you looked at man fsck16:00
MaazKilos: Excuse me?16:00
Kilosmazal, 16:00
magespawnyup Kilos only blank screen installed16:01
mazalNope Kilos 16:04
mazalSjoe I like learning new things , but to remember the commands , oi16:04
mazalman pages are greek to me16:06
Kilosaw you like me16:06
mazalI need examples :P16:06
Kilosfsck can do great things if you can work the command out16:06
Kilosi need pictures16:06
Kiloshehe16:06
mazalFrom examples I can figure commands out16:07
magespawnKilos have you tried Evernote?16:07
Kilosthen work out that fsck one to check what you want it to16:07
Kiloswhats that magespawn 16:07
magespawnthing to take note with, but stored locally and on the net16:08
magespawni use it to clip web links16:08
mazalSo it stores locally and syncs to a server ?16:09
mazalKinda like xmarks for firefox ?16:09
Kilosi make lotsa files and folder onna desktop with all commands and things you guys work out for me magespawn 16:10
Kilossince ian was here its got full16:11
Kilosneed a desktop clean when things work again16:11
magespawnsomething like that has firefox addon too, i like it cause of the sync between devices16:13
magespawnbbl dinnertime16:15
Kilosenjoy16:16
mazalGaan bk sport kyk16:17
TaraLSHello everyone.16:30
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magespawnevening all17:22
Kiloshey magespawn 17:23
superflyevening17:23
Kiloshi psydroid and others17:23
* superfly managed to survive the parentals17:23
Kiloslol17:23
Kiloswhose parents superfly ?17:23
superflymine17:23
Kilosaw your own are the best17:24
superflythe old grump was grumpy as ever17:24
Kiloslol17:24
superflywish mom was able to come alone17:24
magespawnvery productive day, tiled the laundry 95% and fixed a windows, re-puttied thenrest17:24
superflyKilos: no, my in-laws are the best17:24
Kilosneeds to join our community17:24
superflymagespawn: nice!17:24
TaraLSOoh, superfly.17:24
TaraLSHallo.17:24
superflyhi, for a moment... sounds like I'm needed downstairs17:24
magespawnin-laws coming in two weeks17:24
TaraLSNooo17:24
TaraLSGo away people who need superfly in real life.17:24
Kilosmother inlaws normally dont think you good enough for their daughters17:25
TaraLSlol17:25
Kiloskiddo paste it17:26
magespawnahh well compared to the others in family i am the man with big s on his chest17:26
Kilosthen everyone can try17:26
Kilosslexy.org17:26
Kilosha nha magespawn 17:26
Kiloshi Squirm 17:26
magespawnTaraLS: Kilos said you do freelance art? 17:26
Squirmevening17:26
magespawnhey Squirm17:27
TaraLSmagespawn: I do.17:27
TaraLSlol, I wrote magesquirm initially.17:27
TaraLSsquirm: *wave*17:27
psydroidhi Kilos superfly magespawn TaraLS and the rest of the gang17:27
psydroidand Squirm in particular17:27
magespawnwhat type?17:27
KilosTaraLS, type first 3 letters of nick and hit tab17:27
TaraLSI know.17:28
Squirmhello psydroid 17:28
TaraLSmagespawn: Depends. 'Realistic' portraits, or anime/cartoon17:28
Squirmand magespawn 17:28
Squirmand Kilos 17:28
Squirmand TaraLS 17:28
TaraLSpsydroid, Yo. :)17:28
magespawnhey psydroid17:28
magespawnexamples? can we have a look? online portfolio?17:29
Kilosyou never looked yet magespawn ?17:29
magespawndo not think so17:29
Kilosthat kriceverta thing17:29
Kilosnuvolari, did and ended by porn stuff17:30
Kilosyou gotta get direct links17:30
Kilosoh 17:30
TaraLSHahaha17:31
TaraLSEhem.17:31
TaraLShttp://kaiverta.deviantart.com17:31
magespawnahh so thats what Kilos meant by devian art17:31
magespawnlol17:31
Kilosya17:31
Kiloslol17:31
Squirmputting my batter in the freezer to try and fix it may have been a bad idea17:31
Kilosi forget17:31
Squirms/batter/battery17:32
magespawnSquirm: battery for what?17:32
Squirmmy blackberry17:32
Kilosonly thing the freezer does is make it very cold17:32
Squirmone of these tails that it's meant to reset the batteries memory or something17:33
Squirmtales*17:33
Kilosmagespawn, that pc has a pci express slot for the graphics card methinks17:34
Kilosno vga slot17:34
Kilosused to be old wives tales. no young twits tales17:34
SquirmKilos: battery died when it wasn't empty. so it's worth a shot17:35
magespawnonly old style batteries get memory17:35
* Squirm shrugs17:35
Kiloslol17:36
magespawnTaraLS: you doing this on a pc? software? wacom tablet?17:36
TaraLSWacom... I wish. Then my tablet would work with Ubuntu.17:36
Kilosaw there is wacom software in repos17:37
Kilosshe would have another one hey17:37
TaraLSI draw them first with pencil on paper, then I scan it in, and then I colour it with my Genius tablet on Photoshop17:37
TaraLSOr... did.17:37
superflyTaraLS: my wife and my two sons might not like that...17:37
TaraLSsuperfly: what?17:37
Kiloslol17:37
superfly<TaraLS> Nooo17:37
superfly<TaraLS> Go away people who need superfly in real life.17:37
TaraLSOh. I thowwy.17:37
TaraLSI didn't mean it, really.17:37
* superfly disappears back downstairs...17:38
TaraLSNot -reaaally-.17:38
TaraLSD'oh.17:38
superflyTaraLS: no worries, I get it17:38
superfly:-)17:38
SquirmRichelieu is always tasty :)17:38
magespawnTaraLS: are wacom tablets expensive?17:39
TaraLSSadly, yes.17:39
magespawnin oz?17:39
TaraLSBut I JUST got this tablet a month ago for my birthday.17:39
TaraLSAnd I can't afford to get another one just so it works with one OS.17:39
magespawni found some other ones here that are supposed to work with ubuntu and were half the price of the wacom17:41
KilosTaraLS, ask their forums whats the chance of getting linux drivers soon17:41
magespawnwill tell you the name when i remember17:41
TaraLSI'm not buying another tablet, though I appreciate that.17:41
TaraLSkilos: I've seen in other forums that people will "just have to wait".17:42
Kilosah17:42
Kiloswell it will come17:42
Kilosso more hard hand work till then17:42
Kilosbut you gotta see your printer scanner first as well17:43
Kilossigh17:43
magespawni have played around with gimp and inkscape a bit, i like both of those17:43
magtieHi Kilos  Everyone17:49
Kiloshi magtie 17:50
Kilosoh magespawn tell me17:51
KilosTaraLS, has two massive partitions formatted to ext4 as /storage and /spare17:52
TaraLSStupid GIMP17:52
TaraLSMy tools bar and the other one are gone17:52
Kiloscan she format one to fat or ntfs and install xp to there?17:52
Kilosshould work i think17:52
Kilosmight mess up the boot sector some but boot repair should sort it hey?17:53
TaraLSSites suggest installing Windows before Ubuntu BECAUSE it messes up something in ubuntu boot17:54
TaraLSOne sight said it was the Grub that needed to be fixed17:54
Kilosmaybe i must try a virtual box here17:54
TaraLSWhatever the heck the grub is.17:54
TaraLSTry virtual box for what?17:54
Kilosgrub is your boot loader17:54
Kilosto see if i can get xp working17:54
TaraLSXP is working on Virtual Box17:55
TaraLSIt's just missing those two thingies.17:55
TaraLSI don't want to deal with it anymoooore.17:55
Kiloslol17:55
Kilosdoes it need those 2 thingies to work your printer?17:56
Kilosand tablet17:56
* mazal peeks back in17:56
Kilosyo mazal 17:56
Kiloswie loer kry niks17:56
TaraLSYes, I guess it does.17:57
TaraLSBut I don't know how to make them work.17:57
TaraLS:|17:57
TaraLSSigh.17:57
TaraLSMy resolve is not so impressive anymore, superfly.17:57
Kilosi have a windows xp world exclusive optimization toolkit cd here17:57
TaraLSSo?17:57
TaraLSAnd how did someone who hates Windows get something as useful-sounding as that?17:58
Kiloslol17:58
Kilosits who you know17:58
mazalIt's a boot-build-in format c: - install-linux cd17:58
Kilosmazal, ?17:59
mazalThere's only 1 way to optimize windoze , format c: , install linux :)18:00
TaraLSI see.18:00
TaraLSSo hey, here's a riddle/not.18:00
Kiloshaha18:00
Kilostara wassup your gimp?18:01
mazalReminds me of an intern we had. He knew only 2 fixes to every problem. Reboot , if that don't work , format18:01
magespawnif you do install windows after ubuntu there is grub work in your future18:01
TaraLSMy Windows crashed on a fatal blue screen, and I couldn't get into it to retrieve my files. So, I ran Ubuntu and managed to get my files THROUGH Ubuntu and saved them (two docs) to a flash drive. Now, all the other images/docs/etc on the flash drive were saved when Windows was still up and operating. But these two were taken from Windows in its crashed state. They have these little ~$- in their file names and the text is18:01
TaraLS 'encoded'. Hoooow do I encode?18:01
Kilosthats the right way with winsucks mazal 18:01
TaraLSEr. decode*18:02
Kilosyou must catch magespawn  when on pc18:03
Kiloshe on fone thingie now18:03
mazalTo my knowledge ~$ is temporary files and not the actual main file18:03
KilosTaraLS, did you try rename them18:03
TaraLSNooOoOoOoO18:04
TaraLS*sniffle*18:04
magespawnusually if it is a word file etc, the program that made the file can sometimes recover it18:04
Kilosand remove that ~$18:04
TaraLSOh.18:04
TaraLSI tried removing the ~&18:04
TaraLS$18:04
TaraLSIt did squat18:04
Kiloseish18:04
magespawnthats just the name, does not change the file18:04
magespawnwhat files are they?18:05
TaraLSBut the program that made it was Microsoft Word 200218:05
TaraLSThey're word documents18:05
TaraLSmade them*18:05
magespawntry open office or libre office?18:05
TaraLSHaven't tried open office yet18:05
TaraLSBut libre office doesn't open them18:05
TaraLSI get weird characters: ####################18:05
Kilosnothing in libreoffice can see whats actually there magespawn 18:06
magespawnmaybe a plain text editor like gedit18:06
Kilosi tried gedit18:06
Kiloswants to go look for stuff to open it and then says there aint niks18:07
Kiloshere is the closest i got18:07
Kilos #Tara-Lynn Sharrock#####################################T#a#r#a#-#L#y#n#n# #S#h#a#r#r#o#c#k###DM�2#��#####�###################���##############��#���#\�L3########  18:07
magespawnsend me a link to files when i come online tomrrow, i will see what i can do18:08
Kilosfunny the name not corrupted as well18:08
magespawnwill be about 10:00 sa time18:08
TaraLSA link to files?18:08
magespawnor mail me the files if they not too big 18:08
TaraLSIt says that they're only bytes. :(18:09
magespawnthe ones you cannot open18:09
Kilos162k18:09
Kilostiny18:09
TaraLSBut they should have about 45 pages.18:09
TaraLSWhat do you mean 'a link'?18:09
TaraLSUpload them somewhere?18:09
TaraLSI'd rather email them directly.18:09
magespawnif you want, but they are small so email should be fine18:09
magespawndo you not use dropbox, ubuntuone or a similar service?18:10
TaraLSI have ubuntuone18:10
TaraLSI just don't want to share them with the whole interwebs world18:10
TaraLSUbuntuone is safe, yes?18:10
magespawnyou could also try to open them in google docs18:11
TaraLSI tried that.18:11
magespawnbrb18:12
TaraLSkk18:14
magespawneamesgreg at gmail dot com18:14
magespawnhey Kilos you have not said anything about tomorrows meeting18:16
TaraLSOkay, I sent them. If you have time, please confirm that you got them? Don't need to actually try work with them at present18:19
Kilosoh my18:19
KilosMaaz, announce Monthly meeting tomorrow night at 19.30 guys and gals. BE HERE18:20
MaazHear ye, hear ye! Monthly meeting tomorrow night at 19.30 guys and gals. BE HERE18:20
magespawnokay brb18:20
zerefoh dear, seems like the www.varistycollege.co.za was haXed18:20
magespawnTaraLS: i will look in the morning i have two step auth turned on, so cannot log in with the tablet mail client18:22
TaraLSOkay no worries18:22
magespawnMaaz is www.varsitycolleg.co.za up?18:24
magespawncannot spell or type18:24
mazalhehehe18:24
magespawnwhat is that command again? to get Maaz to check a site?18:25
magespawnMaaz help18:25
Maazmagespawn: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.18:25
MaazAsk me "help me with ..." for more details.18:25
Kilosmagespawn, it is webchat.freenode.net for those who can manage xchat hey?18:25
Kiloscant18:26
magespawnbrowser based chat yup18:26
magespawnMaaz help with sites18:26
Maazmagespawn: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.18:26
mazalMaaz help me with decisions18:26
Maazmazal: I use the following features for decisions: choose and poll18:26
MaazAsk me "how do I use ..." for more details.18:26
magespawnMaaz help me with sites18:27
Maazmagespawn: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.18:27
Kilosi did tweet it yesterday but didnt add agenda links etc18:27
KilosMaaz, ping www.varsitycolleg.co.za18:27
MaazKilos: Error: unknown host www.varsitycolleg.co.za18:27
Kiloshmm18:27
magespawnMaaz check on a site18:27
Maazmagespawn: Sorry...18:27
magespawnlol18:27
magespawnbbl fish two bedtime18:27
KilosMaaz, ping www.varistycollege.co.za18:28
MaazKilos: Error: unknown host www.varistycollege.co.za18:28
mazallol18:28
Kilosspelling crazy in then things18:28
mazalMaaz , help with spelling18:28
Maazmazal: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.18:28
Kilosblame zeref 18:28
mazalMaaz, ping www.varsitycollege.co.za18:28
Maazmazal: 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4001ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 189.004/189.279/189.522/0.587 ms18:29
Kilosthere you go18:29
mazallol18:29
mazalIt does seem to be hacked though18:29
Kilosi copy paste. too much to type18:29
Kiloswhere the brat went18:30
mazalWho's that ?18:31
KilosTaraLS, 18:31
TaraLSo.018:31
Kilosyou still here kiddo18:31
TaraLSlol where the brat went :P18:31
TaraLSI'm watching Fifth Element18:31
Kilosmazal, she be my brat18:31
mazalShame oom Kilos , hoe moet sy nou voel :)18:31
TaraLSKilos, YOU be MY brat.18:31
Kilosbaie parmantig ook18:32
mazalEk sien daai ding18:32
KilosMaaz, coffee on18:37
* Maaz starts grinding coffee18:37
KilosMaaz, rusks please18:37
Maazbehind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos18:37
mazalNou ja , let's see if it shuts down18:39
Kilosgood luck18:39
mazalLekker slaap oom Kilos 18:40
mazalSleep well everyone18:40
Kilosjy ook boet18:40
mazalGod bless18:40
KilosYou need them more than me18:40
Kilosmany years ahead for you18:40
Kilosbut ty18:40
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!18:41
KilosMaaz, ty18:41
MaazYou are welcome Kilos18:41
TaraLSI want coffee.18:41
TaraLSI shall go get coffee. brb.18:41
superfly*sigh*18:46
Kiloswassup superfly 18:46
superflyKilos: life, the universe and everything.18:46
Kiloseish man18:46
Kilosmoed hou18:46
Kiloslo hubx 18:47
hubx:)18:48
Kiloszeref, wb you still with us18:54
Kiloszerlgi, too18:54
Kilosthis double tab thing18:55
Kilosnight all sleep tight. see you morrow19:01
magtienight all19:02
magespawnnight all19:47
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