[00:00] <deitarion> ClientAlive: Anyway, for directories, the sticky bit forces all files inside the directory to only be deletable by the users that own them, regardless of other permissions. For files, it often has no effect but, on older systems, it caused the OS to try some tricks to make programs load faster.
[00:00] <ClientAlive> looks liek we got er' fellas. I found it.
[00:01] <ClientAlive> deitarion: well that doesn't sound too bad  :)
[00:01] <WeThePeople> how do i run a install.sh in terminal
[00:01] <WeThePeople> need to be root
[00:01] <ClientAlive> hey, thx fellas
[00:01] <fourq|cloud> 12.10 dell latitude e3400 [ctrl+alt+screen prnt] it turned off my monitor. had to rebooted and now I have no internet. Connects fin to router last time this happened i had to re-install
[00:01] <deitarion> ClientAlive: For future reference, you can run "man whatever" for almost any command you might type in the terminal to read the manual page for it.
[00:01] <astsubay06> hi
[00:01] <goldeneye> hello
[00:02] <goldeneye> can someone help me with my ubuntu sound on thinkpad t60p
[00:02] <CorvusCorax> grah stupid launchpad. activation email is stuck in greylisting and they offer no option to resend manually
[00:02] <andybrine> ok so netflix loaded perfectly
[00:02] <mhouse> sudo ./install.sh
[00:02] <goldeneye> i am having a constant whistling sound the moment i unmute my sound
[00:02] <ClientAlive> I hate reading man pages - I like talking to people about it. When I try to understand that junk (man pages) it makes no sense to me, when I talk to ppl things make perfect sense. Dunno why, maybe it's just my personality or learning style or something.
[00:02] <andybrine> just uninstalled wine and playonlinux and now to install them again. It will remove netflix
[00:02] <andybrine> lol
[00:03] <andybrine> classic :)
[00:03] <deitarion> ClientAlive: No biggie. The manpages can be rather verbose and technical. I sometimes Google for answers because a specific manpage is poorly written.
[00:04] <deitarion> WeThePeople: I'm generally wary of any install.sh that NEEDS root (I put games in a folder in my homedir) but, if you really want to run it as root, make sure it's marked executable and then do as mhouse says.
[00:04] <CorvusCorax> goldeneye, that sounds like your microphone is making a feedback loop
[00:04] <CorvusCorax> did you try to lower the microphones volume?
[00:05] <WeThePeople> thankyou mhouse deitarion
[00:05] <andybrine> does anyone know the command to install programs in wine?
[00:05] <goldeneye> CorvusCorax how do i fix it
[00:05] <deitarion> andybrine: Depends. I assume it's a .exe installer?
[00:06] <CorvusCorax> open the volume control and search for the slider for the microphone, then lower it. if the whistling goes away, that was it
[00:06] <andybrine> yea it is
[00:06] <CorvusCorax> wine setup.exe
[00:06] <CorvusCorax> or whatever the installer is called
[00:06] <mhouse> whats the pkg that does the install animation in the unity bar
[00:06] <andybrine> excellent, thanks
[00:06] <CorvusCorax> its a bit more tricky with .msi's I keep having to look up the syntax for that
[00:08] <goldeneye> CorvusCorax holy cow -  looks like that was it
[00:08] <deitarion> CorvusCorax: Wasn't it something like msiexec /i whatever.msi?
[00:08] <goldeneye> does that mean i wont be able to use mic and speakers on this machine?
[00:08] <CorvusCorax> deitarion, yeah i think that was it "wine msiexec /i <bla.msi>"
[00:09] <InFlames> anyone know why my dashboard has stopped showing my applications?
[00:09] <InFlames> Dash Home*
[00:09] <CorvusCorax> goldeneye, sure you can use the mic - for recording. the slider you lowered was the feedthrough
[00:09] <deitarion> CorvusCorax: No need to prepend "wine". msiexec is /usr/bin/msiexec.
[00:09] <mrspinx> Hi
[00:09] <CorvusCorax> aka "I want to hear the signal from my microphone from my speakers live"
[00:09] <CorvusCorax> which you usually dont
[00:09] <goldeneye> CorvusCorax, i just turned the microphone slider to mute.
[00:09] <CorvusCorax> theres a separate slider for recording
[00:10] <goldeneye> I see. Ok.
[00:10] <goldeneye> cant believe i dint use ubuntu because of this simple sound issue :)
[00:10] <mhouse> okay how can i catch a crash that isn't generating reports
[00:10] <goldeneye> loving it. sound is crisp and louder.
[00:10] <CorvusCorax> yay
[00:10] <eli_> hello, would you help me? i don"t know the reason return message 'http://paste.debian.net/210301/' when run 'apt-get -f install'
[00:10] <ReAzem> Hello! I would like to know if cron.weely behaves like anacron?
[00:11] <goldeneye> thanks much
[00:12] <deitarion> ReAzem: Check /etc/anacrontab. Looks like it does.
[00:12] <sheerun> I/quit
[00:13] <Endgame3984> can anyone explain about SQL injection
[00:13] <ReAzem> deitarion, To be more specific, I would like to know if cron.daily will work if the computer isn't up all the time.
[00:13] <deitarion> Endgame3984: This isn't really the place for that.
[00:13] <Endgame3984> sorry wrong window
[00:14] <suttiwit> i've added myself to group "audio" , i still need to run alsa as root
[00:14] <deitarion> ReAzem: /etc/anacrontab controls what anacron will run. On mine, it does contain those.
[00:14] <deitarion> suttiwit: First, what do you mean by "run alsa". Second, did you log out and back in to apply the changes?
[00:14] <mhouse> okay bye
[00:14] <mhouse> exit
[00:14] <rodhash> Hello guys… I'm using Ubuntu Quantal w/ Unity + compiz
[00:14] <ReAzem> deitarion, Yeah, but cron.weely is cron's folder. Not anacron's.
[00:14] <rodhash> few min ago my icons in the Unity bar (launcher) just desapeard, any idea what happened?
[00:14] <suttiwit> deitarion: well, run alsamixer
[00:14] <suttiwit> and it says mixer not found
[00:15] <deitarion> ReAzem: As I understand it, anacron works by keeping track of when the system was last running and launches anything that should have run while the system was off.
[00:15] <suttiwit> oh wait... i didn't log out and back... thanks, anyway
[00:15] <InFlames> can someone help me fix my dash home?
[00:15] <Endgame3984> anyone know what would cause my wireless drives to not function
[00:16] <deitarion> ReAzem: Anacron is controlled by /etc/anacrontab and the default anacrontab (at least on my system) processes /etc/cron.daily, /etc/cron.weekly, and /etc/cron.monthly just as cron does.
[00:16] <ReAzem> deitarion, Yeah, I know how anacron works. But I would like to use only cron if possible. and I was wondering if cron's "cron.daily" folder work the same way.
[00:16] <mrspinx>  I have a lenovo n586  notebook with no linux drivers from lenovo,  Its a amd a6 apu with an amd chipset. has anyone used this before? I am going to write a setup guide.
[00:16] <rocsteady> Hi guys
[00:16] <rocsteady> When I ls in ubuntu, I can only see my . files
[00:17] <deitarion> ReAzem: cron.daily isn't really "cron's". It's just a folder. It gets its special behaviour because both the cron and anacron config files say "Once a day, look at this folder and run every script in it"
[00:17] <dr_willis> rocsteady:   try the alias command. see if your 'ls' is actually an alias
[00:17] <rocsteady> I would prefer to type ls -a to see my . files
[00:17] <rocsteady> That's what I was thinking
[00:17] <rocsteady> Should I man ls?
[00:17] <suttiwit> rebooting didn't even solved it.
[00:17] <rocsteady> Nm I will google for the alias command. Thank You!
[00:17] <ReAzem> deitarion, Does that mean both cron and anacron will run it?
[00:17] <suttiwit> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[00:17] <dr_willis> look at your alias's rocsteady  set up an alias to run ls how you want. ;)
[00:17] <suttiwit> it works on root
[00:18] <blackness> rocsteady, check .bashrc or .bash_alias for more info.
[00:18] <deitarion> ReAzem: Yes. Cron will run it if the system is on at the desired time. Anacron will run it if it notices that the system was off at the scheduled time.
[00:18] <dr_willis> $ alias ls
[00:18] <dr_willis> alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[00:18] <unrar> hi
[00:18]  * rocsteady checking
[00:19] <ReAzem> deitarion, If the system is up, will it run twice at once?
[00:19] <blackness> alias command='args' isnt perm
[00:19] <deitarion> ReAzem: No. Anacron only runs things if the scheduled time occurred while anacron was not running.
[00:19] <suttiwit> deitarion: rebooting didn't work, it still says 'cannot open mixer'.
[00:19] <maslo> I'm sorry I'm not too familiar with linux's directory structure, I made a dynamic motd that I put in /usr/local/bin and I'm wondering where the suited place to put a file that will be read and output but that I will change everynow and then (like the actual motd) ?
[00:19] <blackness> gotta run, working on my pastebin..i believe its ready for a hacker test :P
[00:20] <deitarion> suttiwit: Give me a sec to think. I've never had that problem before.
[00:20] <ReAzem> deitarion, Thank you, this helped :). Does anacron looks in /etc/cron.daily by default or is it a configured behaviour?
[00:20] <rocsteady> dr_willis: blackness It was set as alias ls="ls -AF --color=auto" so I'll change it.
[00:20] <dr_willis> maslo:  thers some motd service that has a 'tail' file i belive you can edit and it gets tacked onto the end of the MOTD
[00:20] <rocsteady> Ty for your help.
[00:20] <suttiwit> deitarion: i am on server, btw
[00:20] <deitarion> ReAzem: Since I've never edited /etc/anacrontab, it's probably by default. Read /etc/anacrontab and you'll see.
[00:21] <maslo> dr_willis: I desactivated the whole motd/lastlog/mail, made a dynamic one that looks like this http://i.imgur.com/JJLwe.png, but I'm gonna have an actual motd inside my dynamic motd
[00:21] <maslo> should I just use the actual motd file?
[00:21] <deitarion> suttiwit: I've never used Ubuntu Server, to be honest. I feel that, given the existence of Debian, Ubuntu Server is rather pointless.
[00:21] <blackness> rocsteady, after you edit your files, . .filename and you dont have to relogin to take affects
[00:22] <blackness> or source .file ex: source .bashcd
[00:22] <blackness> or source .file ex: source .bashrc *
[00:22] <InFlames> anyone know where my dash home icons have gone?
[00:22] <deitarion> suttiwit: What does it say if you run `aplay -l`?
[00:22] <rocsteady> blackness: cool
[00:22] <dr_willis> InFlames:  give us more details as to what you mean
[00:23] <suttiwit> deitarion: no sound card found
[00:23] <InFlames> dr_willis, the icons that should be showing inside the dash home, applications, for instance, they are all missing, just a seach box
[00:23] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html  if you want to try to reset your unity back to defaukts
[00:24] <dr_willis> InFlames:  not heard of that bug or issue. see if a newly made user has the same problem
[00:24] <deitarion> suttiwit: Mind pastebinning the output of "ls -lhd /etc/asound.conf /dev/snd /dev/snd/*"?
[00:24] <InFlames> it seems to have happened before, and no one knows what causes it
[00:24] <InFlames> :/
[00:24] <InFlames> then it just randomly comes back
[00:24] <InFlames> how can i access my applications separate from this?
[00:24] <InFlames> this is incredibly inconvenient
[00:25] <dr_willis> you can always install some dock, or one of the classic menu indicator applets
[00:25] <InFlames> suggestions?
[00:25] <dr_willis> !dock
[00:25] <dr_willis> !info cardio
[00:26] <dr_willis> !info Cardapio
[00:26] <dr_willis> Hmm   https://launchpad.net/cardapio
[00:26] <eli_> http://paste.debian.net/210301/
[00:26] <suttiwit> deitarion: http://codepad.org/l4cQWAIW
[00:27] <InFlames> thanks alot dr_willis
[00:28] <henry_> why my pc always  reboot?
[00:28] <walterwoj> anyone here have experience setting up SSH to run on keys?
[00:29] <deitarion> suttiwit: Hmm. Looks OK. Try running `strace alsamixer > trace.txt` and pastebinning that.
[00:29] <deitarion> suttiwit: Wait. Sorry.
[00:29] <deitarion> suttiwit: Use `strace alsamixer 2> trace.txt`. We want stderr, not stdout.
[00:30] <dr_willis> walterwoj:  login via keys instead of password? dozens of guides out there.. basically i just do a 'ssh-keygen' on pc1 then ssh-copy-id servername
[00:30] <walterwoj> dr_wI have followed several guids but I can't get it to work.
[00:31] <dr_willis> walterwoj:  for one ubuntu box to another. i just do the keygen, then copy-id commands.. and it works
[00:31] <dr_willis> but you do have to have password logins allowed the first time
[00:33] <suttiwit> deitarion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1366490/
[00:34]  * Riccardone 
[00:34] <walterwoj> ok, that woks locally now... anything special to make it work from windows using putty?
[00:35] <deitarion> suttiwit: Ok, so it IS a permissions issue with /dev/snd/controlC0. (See line 155) Now to just figure out why.
[00:35] <dr_willis> putty has to some how inport/convert the keys i recall walterwoj
[00:36] <dr_willis> or have putty generate a key and have linux add it to the right file in .ssh (id have to try it to rember what ones)
[00:36] <suttiwit> hmm
[00:37] <suttiwit> deitarion: can i just do chmod or chown on /dev/snd/controlC0? since i am not using this as a server... i won't need much security :P
[00:37] <deitarion> suttiwit: Bad idea to hack around that way... especially since I'm still trying to figure out why it even works on my end.
[00:37] <|MS|DjFlyBy> anyone can recommend a program for me to help create a flash photo gallery? We're talking a gallery of well over 23,000 photo's. I tried jalbum but it keeps crashing (don't think it can handle so many photo
[00:37] <ccc> hello
[00:38] <ccc> i need tech support on my ubuntu video card settings
[00:39] <suttiwit> ccc, hmm, what happen?
[00:39] <deitarion> suttiwit: Ok, I've figured out why it works on my end.
[00:39] <suttiwit> ok...
[00:40] <deitarion> suttiwit: I'm not in the "audio" group but it works for me because, somewhere, the config is set up to add my user to the ACL for those device nodes.
[00:40] <suttiwit> okay...
[00:40] <deitarion> suttiwit: I'm just trying to figure out where that config tweak is.
[00:41] <deitarion> suttiwit: Ok, do you have /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/audio? If so, pastebin it.
[00:43] <ccc> hello can someone help me?
[00:43] <suttiwit> ccc, yes
[00:43] <ccc> cool
[00:43] <suttiwit> deitarion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1366501/
[00:43] <ccc> i just installed ubuntu
[00:44] <ccc> and need video driver for nvidia gtx-280
[00:44] <suttiwit> why?
[00:44] <suttiwit> is x working?
[00:44] <ccc> so my resolutins are correct
[00:44] <ccc> i dont have a 1080x720
[00:45] <ccc> how do i know what video card ubuntu detected?
[00:45] <deitarion> suttiwit: Ok, I think this is beyond my abilities. I've never needed to track down permissions issues beyond this point.
[00:45] <dr_willis> tried the nvidia-current package yet?
[00:45] <ccc> no
[00:46] <ccc> how do i get it
[00:46] <suttiwit> ccc, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[00:46] <dr_willis> its in the package manager/repos
[00:46] <suttiwit> in terminal
[00:46] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current   then reboot. then run nvidia-settings to tweak the displays
[00:46] <dr_willis> all i need for my 5 nvidia machines.
[00:46] <suttiwit> deitarion: okay, thanks anyway... i am just annoyed of running as root.
[00:47] <dr_willis> [GeForce GT 530] is what i got here on this box.
[00:47] <dr_willis> i forget what the other machines are running
[00:47] <deitarion> suttiwit: My best guess is that they locked down the audio system in the server version of Ubuntu and I don't know enough about how they handle permissions on Ubuntu Server to tell you the proper way to adjust that policy.
[00:47] <ccc> how do i open the god damn package manager
[00:48] <rodhash> Hello guys…
[00:48] <rodhash> any idea why icons on Unity bar disapeared?
[00:48] <ReAzem> deitarion, Finaly figured everyting out. Thank you. Also, this might interest you "ithin the cron.daily, weekly, and monthly directories ( /etc/cron.daily, etc.) there is a 0anacron file that sets the timestamps for anacron, so it will know they have been run, even if it didn't run them."
[00:48] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current  <<<<< the exact command to use in a terminal ccc
[00:48] <ccc> lol
[00:48] <BunBun> hello everybody i use ubuntu 12.04 with the standart Unity desktop envirnment but i have a problem with the top panel... i cant see pogram icons :S there is only the standart icons like network, sound and so on
[00:48] <blackshirt> ccc, what you mean with it ?
[00:49] <deitarion> BunBun: You mean tray icons? Unity, by design, hides those unless you individually whitelist them.
[00:49] <dr_willis> BunBun:  you mean theres no left side panel?
[00:49] <dr_willis> time to play 20 questions to get to the real question. ;)
[00:49] <user__> hi guys.. I'm having an issue after installing Ubuntu. It was working great for about a day and after a few reboots, then suddenly Compiz crashed.. and even after rebooting I can't see the Unity menu manager
[00:50] <suttiwit> ccc: please watch your language, btw.
[00:50] <BunBun> deitarion how to do that? :) and dr_willis yes there is a site panel but now all pograms use that panel some only open as tray icons
[00:50] <Techcel> what is a good meedia server for ubuntu 12.10? I used to use ps3 mediaserver, but it stopped working recently and I can't get it to work.
[00:50] <kostkon> Techcel, xbmc?
[00:51] <deitarion> BunBun: I forget. I run Lubuntu and, while I did once do it for Skype for my brother, it was a long time ago and he's now on Lubuntu too. Give me a sec to look it up.
[00:51] <almoxarife> Techcel: xbmc!
[00:52] <dr_willis> plex, xbmc, ushare, or other upnp/dlna servers
[00:52] <deitarion> BunBun: Includes screenshots. Read both answers before you try --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/151112/how-do-i-get-the-skype-status-icon-back-on-panel-tray
[00:52] <BunBun> thx i'll look at it
[00:53] <Arkan> hi, I have a problem dual boooting win7 and ubuntu, can some one give me a hand?
[00:54]  * suttiwit gives Arkan a hand
[00:54] <suttiwit> Arkan: what problem?
[00:54] <Arkan> tks for the hand =)
[00:54] <Hatori> good morning
[00:54] <Arkan> well I have a new Asus N76V that I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04
[00:55] <suttiwit> along with windows 7?
[00:55] <Arkan> the thing is, Iam able to install Ubuntu but then I cant boot win7
[00:55] <Arkan> This comp has 2 hard drive
[00:55] <suttiwit> 2 physical drive? Arkan
[00:55] <Arkan> win is installed as UeFI
[00:55] <Arkan> yes =)
[00:56] <suttiwit> Arkan: don't do uefi. do standard
[00:56] <user_e> sorry I dropped for a second.. anyone have any ideas about a problem where Compiz is crashing, even after reboot, leaving me with no session manager?
[00:56] <Arkan> yes, i tried to instal ubuntu standard
[00:56] <Arkan> but win7 does not boot
[00:56] <suttiwit> Arkan: oh gosh... look
[00:56] <Arkan> is I format the ubuntu disk win7 boots
[00:57] <suttiwit> Arkan: install windows 7 first as standard (not uefi). after that install ubuntu as standard (not uefi) and choose "Install alongside windows 7".
[00:57] <Arkan> I  have been looping arround with this for the last 2 days, a nightmare
[00:58]  * suttiwit *facepalm*
[00:58] <Arkan> I was trying to avoid that because I didnt want to mess up withthe original istalation of win7...
[00:59] <suttiwit> Arkan: the original one is installed as uefi?
[00:59] <Arkan> yes
[00:59] <walterwoj> I can't convert my ubuntu key so that putty will accept (or convert) it says it doesn't support my encryption method.
[00:59] <suttiwit> Arkan: haven't you tried "install alongside windows 7"?
[01:00] <Arkan> I dont get that option
[01:00] <suttiwit> Arkan: what are the options?
[01:00] <Arkan> actually, when use uubuntu live gparted don get the win7 partitions
[01:00] <Arkan> only erase disk and the advanced option
[01:01] <suttiwit> Arkan: ...gparted can't even find the hdd with win7?
[01:01] <Arkan> disk utility can see the win7 partitions and i can mount them
[01:01] <Arkan> it can find the hard drive but not the partitions
[01:01] <suttiwit> hm ok, i get it now
[01:02] <suttiwit> Arkan: go to advanced options... Partition the harddisk you are planning to install ubuntu and tell ubuntu to install to the harddisk for it.
[01:02] <Arkan> yes, i have done that. I can install ubuntu, but when I try to boot win7, it wont boot
[01:03] <Arkan> I think grub does not recognize that win is uefi
[01:03] <Arkan> because try to run the files from the OS
[01:03] <Arkan> anyhow, win7 does not boot
[01:03] <Arkan> if i delete ubuntu win boots with no problem
[01:03] <suttiwit> Arkan: nah... i think you need to setup grub to detect OS from 2 physical hdd
[01:04] <user_e> Anyone have any ideas about how to trouble shoot a compiz crash, where after rebooting I can't see Unity, just my desktop?
[01:04] <user_e> I can access Terminal through hotkey... but I'm stuck
[01:04] <suttiwit> user_e, i heard that unity has some conflictions with compiz.
[01:05] <user_e> hmmmm, if I install cinnimon will it resolve this?
[01:05] <kostkon> suttiwit, unity is a compiz plugin
[01:05] <Arkan> grub give me  the option to boot win7 but win7 gives an error, so i think it detects win7
[01:05] <user_e> i'm not 100% sure I know what compiz is?
[01:06] <suttiwit> Arkan: what err?
[01:06] <suttiwit> error
[01:06] <Arkan> on the other hand, I can install ubuntu with wubi and windows boots, but ubuntu does not
[01:07] <suttiwit> Arkan: what error did windows give you?
[01:07] <Arkan> yes, installing ubuntu with the live cd, after instalation and rebooting I get an option to boot win 7 but win does not boot, thats the problem.
[01:07] <suttiwit> user_e, i would suggest MATE desktop environment if you want compiz.
[01:07] <Arkan> let me check
[01:08] <suttiwit> user_e: or if you want normal unity, then leave it alone. :P
[01:09] <user_e> I don't really care about compiz... this is a default ubuntu config, after install, my window manager crashes
[01:09] <Arkan> OK, "windows failed to start. bla bla" then File:\Boot\BCD Status:0xc000000e
[01:09] <user_e> I just want unity back
[01:09] <Arkan> this kind of error
[01:09] <Techcel> I'm logging into my ubuntu server remotely, so maybe I don't see it, but where is the place to go to settings in xbmc?
[01:09] <Arkan> but windows boot is not dead
[01:09] <user_e> and I got an error saying compiz has crashed Compiz isn't something I added.
[01:09] <Arkan> because if I delete ubuntu it boots OK
[01:10] <suttiwit> user_e, try disabling stuff you checked on compiz and remove ccsm so you don't mess around with it.
[01:10] <suttiwit> ccsm = compiz config settings manager
[01:10]  * M13 says Bye to all
[01:11] <user_e> I don't know how I would even get in to do that, because all I have is terminal
[01:11] <suttiwit> Arkan: this is as far i can help you.. i don't know. please seek for further support and explain your problem clearly.
[01:11] <saustin> Hello, I'm currently using xinerama to drive two monitors off of the proprietary ati radeon driver and I've noticed that when I alt tab or click on multi-window groups from the tab strip that the images are very blur and the machine slows down.  Something I read online suggested this was due to compositing not working on Xinerama... is there no remedy available to me?  Some way of rendering the multiple windows without "compositing" wh
[01:11] <saustin> atever that is?
[01:11] <user_e> and I never touched or enabled anything in ccsm
[01:12] <suttiwit> user_e: did you just installed "compiz"?
[01:12] <user_e> no, compiz comes with Ubuntu
[01:12] <Arkan> ok, anyhow, thanks ... I realy like ubuntu, the best thing to work
[01:12] <user_e> I've installed almost no packages
[01:12] <suttiwit> hmm
[01:12] <user_e> this is fresh ubuntu
[01:13] <osse> How can I determine from the command line whether a certain block device (/dev/sdx) is a hard drive or a memory stick etc. ?
[01:13] <suttiwit> user_e, you mean, suddenly it crashed without you touching compiz?
[01:13] <user_e> suddenly the window manager crashed with an error that compiz had crashed
[01:13] <user_e> i never touched compiz
[01:13] <suttiwit> ah
[01:13] <Arkan> Is there an expert on dual boots of ubuntu in the house?
[01:13] <suttiwit> then it is a bug. user_e, report it at launchpad.
[01:14] <user_e> how could I get my window manager back?
[01:14] <kostkon> user_e, what do you mean?
[01:14] <suttiwit> user_e, i don't know the solution.... you might probably want to try new window manager...
[01:14] <kostkon> user_e, what graphics card do you have
[01:14] <user_e> I mean that unity does not come up when I turn on my computer
[01:15] <user_e> all I have is a blank desktop
[01:15] <user_e> and I have to use CTRL + ALT + T to get a terminal open and to get to XCHAT
[01:15] <kostkon> user_e, right, then you should try resetting unity
[01:15] <user_e> how do I do that?
[01:16] <kostkon> user_e, open a terminal, like you are doing already and give:  unity --reset
[01:16] <user_e> graphics card is Geforce 650M
[01:16] <kostkon> user_e, then, if needed, to restart it, give:  unity --replace
[01:17] <user_e> it says "ERROR: the reset option i now deprecated"
[01:17] <user_e> is*
[01:17] <kostkon> user_e, actually, ok, give me a min
[01:17] <rlmccormick> user_e: had an issue that looked similar just happen today. i have a gtx 660. ended up downloading the latest nvidia drivers and rebooted and everything came back.
[01:17] <kostkon> user_e, then, follow the instructions here: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[01:18] <rlmccormick> user_e: i used these instructions today http://techhamlet.com/2012/11/install-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10/
[01:18] <rlmccormick> was crazy, had no window borders or task bar, everything came back after the update
[01:20] <newroad> sorry i crashed
[01:21] <newroad> this is user_e
[01:21] <newroad> had to get on another computer. when I restarted my computer, now it says "The system is running in low-graphics mode"
[01:21] <walterwoj> how can I generate a DES-EDE3-CBC key (so it will work with putty) ?
[01:21] <Sys_Linux> is that floodbot1 botnet there ??
[01:21] <Sys_Linux> x-(
[01:22] <Techcel> can i use xbmc to stream videos to my xbox 360 ?
[01:22] <rlmccormick> newroad, you might try updating your nvidia drivers as shown here:  http://techhamlet.com/2012/11/install-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10/
[01:22] <rlmccormick> that worked for me today
[01:22] <Npc> Techcel: yeah, why not
[01:22] <aka_pablo> hi?
[01:22] <aka_pablo> sorry
[01:23] <newroad> I actually tried updating them with Additional Drivers today
[01:23] <aka_pablo> i was testing
[01:23] <meLon> I am having issues with my Windows Media Center Remote and LIRC.  I've described my problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12360215
[01:23] <Arkan> Is there an expert on dual boots of ubuntu in the house?
[01:23] <newroad> when I did, they failed to install with an error that I needed to check the logs
[01:23] <Hatori> arkan, just ask your problem
[01:24] <veryhappy> hey guys i have a problem with my speed of my ethernet, it's very slow other computers don't have this problems, it's a VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 7c)
[01:24] <veryhappy> used version: Ubuntu 12.04
[01:25] <Sys_Linux> download namebench if u r on windows and run the software it was a google project it will defenatly increase u r internet speed :D
[01:25] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  check dmesg command output for any potential error messages,
[01:25] <Arkan> Hi Hatori, Just cant dual boot win7 and ubuntu, I think this must be complicated because could not find any help in the web
[01:25] <emery-c> Can someone help me with my fresh install of ubuntu server 10.04 , it wont connect to the network,  dchpdiscover is sending requests to 255.255.255.255, how do i fix it?
[01:25] <Hatori> arkan, are you have both of system successfully installed?
[01:26] <dr_willis> Arkan:  cant find any? should be dozens of pages on how to reinstall grub, and other tricks.. what is the system doing exactly?
[01:26] <veryhappy> dr_willis: deactivated ipv6 due to no exisiting ipv6 router
[01:26] <emery-c> Anyone?
[01:26] <Arkan> Yes, I heve run throug many for the last 2 days and get nothing
[01:26] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  cant say ive herd about many ipv6 issues these days.
[01:26] <Arkan> both systems are installed
[01:26] <dr_willis> !anyone
[01:27] <veryhappy> dr_willis: i first saw that now that it searched for an ipv6 router that wasn't there
[01:27] <Arkan> win7 is from the factory
[01:27] <Arkan> is installed in one hard drive
[01:27] <emery-c> Can someone help me with my fresh install of ubuntu server 10.04 , it wont connect to the network,  dchpdiscover is sending requests to 255.255.255.255, how do i fix it?
[01:27] <veryhappy> dr_willis: i read about a few issues due to missing ipv6 routers
[01:27] <Arkan> I think is UEFI
[01:27] <Arkan> because of the fat partition
[01:27] <Arkan> at the beginig of that hard drive
[01:27] <dr_willis> Arkan:  you are using 12.10 or 12.04 ?
[01:27] <calcmandan> hi folks
[01:28] <Arkan> 12.04
[01:28] <Arkan> lts
[01:28] <Arkan> 64bits
[01:28] <blackshirt> emerc-y, like your dhcp server problem '?
[01:28] <newroad> @rlmccormick, thanks i'm installing the drivers with this guide now. will report in a sec
[01:28] <blackshirt> !efi
[01:28] <Arkan> runing ubuntu live cd I cant detect windows7, but i have made the correct partitions to install ubuntu in the second hard drive
[01:29] <dr_willis> may be worth the effort to try 12.10 on it. it may handle UEFI better.
[01:29] <dr_willis> you have 2 totally seperate hard drives? that should make things easier also.
[01:29] <Arkan> hum... yes, i have not tried 12.10
[01:29] <Arkan> yes
[01:29] <Arkan> what i thought
[01:29] <dr_willis> !info grub-uefi
[01:29] <Arkan> but it has been a nightmare
[01:30] <veryhappy> ok thank you i'll try it now.
[01:30] <dr_willis> thers some grub uefi packages i belive also.. but ive never needed them
[01:30] <veryhappy> take care
[01:30] <Arkan> at the end, if i install ubuntu from live cd i can boot ubuntu but win7 gives an error
[01:30] <Arkan> if i install ubuntu from wubi i can run win7 but ubuntu gives an error
[01:30] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[01:30] <dr_willis> id forget wubi even exists.. ;)
[01:32] <emery-c> Can someone help me?
[01:32] <emery-c> Can someone help me with my fresh install of ubuntu server 10.04 , it wont connect to the network,  dchpdiscover is sending requests to 255.255.255.255, how do i fix it?
[01:32] <dr_willis> if you use the manual partitioning ("Something else"), the difference is that you will have to create and use an EFI partition (see the "Creating an EFI partition" paragraph below).
[01:32] <davkbod-ld> !details
[01:32] <dr_willis> Arkan:  you made a efi partion when you made your partion layout? (im reading that wiki page)
[01:33] <emery-c> Can someone help me with my fresh install of ubuntu server 10.04 , it wont connect to the network,  dchpdiscover is sending requests to 255.255.255.255, how do i fix it?
[01:33] <Arkan> not, I was thinking that ubuntu could run without uefi
[01:33] <emery-c> What more details do you need?
[01:33] <Arkan> since it is on another different hard drive
[01:33] <dr_willis> Arkan:  from what i read it can.. but if you set the bios to not be uefi mode.. then the other os will have issues..
[01:34] <dr_willis> again.. im just reading at   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[01:34] <Arkan> yes, but turning it on does not make win7 to boot
[01:34] <byrnedhead> I'm trying to install R on oneiric, and I'm having trouble with apt-get; it's reporting that I have held packages, but doing "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" doesn't report any held packages.  Help?
[01:34] <dr_willis> aparently the boot-repair tool can fix some of this.
[01:34] <newroad> hmmmmmmmmm
[01:34] <jrib> byrnedhead: pastebin
[01:34] <Arkan> yes, i have tryed the repair disk
[01:35] <byrnedhead> jrib: http://pastebin.com/qTJwquvM
[01:35] <newroad> re-installing the drivers drought back my access to the desktop, but after I log in, unity never loads. I have just a blank desktop (with the abiilty to open terminal through hotkey)
[01:35] <Arkan> but it gives me an notice that my computer has two hard drives so i must disconect one so it can repair windows
[01:35] <Arkan> that is really strange
[01:35] <FireStorms> Hey, in Ubuntu 10.04 I was able to use this Perl/BASH Script to launch an application (Transmission) upon the screensaver being active. Script: http://pastebin.com/YJkTykQ2 I know 12.04 does not ship with screenaver so I installed XScreenSaver and everything is working fine with the exception of the BASH Script I posted a link to. Does anyone here have an idea to why it might not be working?
[01:35] <jrib> byrnedhead: run "sudo apt-get update", then pastebin again
[01:35] <dr_willis> Arkan:  what maybe the easiest way to get it going would be to unplug the windows drive and let the ubuntu installer auto partion.
[01:36] <dr_willis> using the whole disk (the one you want linux on)
[01:36] <InFlames> dr_willis, i installed "docky", but without my dash being able to load it, how can i launch it? :[
[01:37] <Arkan> I see, I might try that
[01:37] <xpistos> Hello all. Is there a doc that can give a total n00b like me some help writing a cron job to move pictures from my dropbox folder to another folder?
[01:37] <jrib> !cron | xpistos
[01:37] <Arkan> any how ubuntu runs well, win7 does not
[01:37] <byrnedhead> jrib: http://pastebin.com/T9HAFDEj
[01:37] <dr_willis> InFlames: http://wiki.go-docky.com/index.php?title=Welcome_to_the_Docky_wiki
[01:38] <jrib> byrnedhead: you say you are on oneiric, yet you have lucid and precise repositories?
[01:38] <InFlames> awesome, thanks
[01:38] <xpistos> jrib: Thanks! I will check that out.
[01:38] <byrnedhead> jrib: I found a thread from someone having the same problem, they claimed success with lucid (they were on maverick)
[01:38] <byrnedhead> I can reproduce with oneiric distribution if youwant
[01:39] <thanigai> hello all, i have dial up connection , it switched off frequently.  how swtich on when redial? help me please
[01:39] <jrib> byrnedhead: that still doesn't explain why you have precise repositories if you're on oneiric
[01:39] <Arkan> I might post the problem in a forum, it might be useful also for other guys with the same problem
[01:39] <newroad> re-installing the drivers drought back my access to the desktop, but after I log in, unity never loads. I have just a blank desktop (with the abiilty to open terminal through hotkey).. any ideas?
[01:39] <emery-c> Hello?
[01:39] <emery-c> is anyone here
[01:40] <emery-c> i've asked my question lots.
[01:40] <emery-c> and everyones like
[01:40] <dr_willis> Arkan:  i imagine the askubuntu.com site has a dozen similer questions and answers
[01:40] <emery-c> !details
[01:40] <byrnedhead> I have no idea why I might have precise repositories
[01:40] <emery-c> I've looked
[01:40] <emery-c> and i cant find anything
[01:40] <emery-c> Can someone help me with my fresh install of ubuntu server 10.04 , it wont connect to the network,  dchpdiscover is sending requests to 255.255.255.255, how do i fix it?
[01:40] <dr_willis> wired? wireless? what Nic?
[01:40] <Arkan> Ok, thks dr_willis, I will try that forum =)
[01:41] <jrib> byrnedhead: what's the output of « lsb_release -c »?
[01:41] <byrnedhead> Codename:	precise
[01:42] <jrib> byrnedhead: so you're on precise then?
[01:42] <byrnedhead> apparently, I didn't know auto-update did that, sorry
[01:42] <jrib> byrnedhead: it doesn't, you have to approve it explicitly
[01:42] <blackness> unless he uses the -y switch
[01:42] <jrib> byrnedhead: « apt-cache policy r-base r-base-core »
[01:43] <jrib> blackness: no
[01:43] <emery-c> wired
[01:43] <DaemonicApathy> Probably jut a blind update, following a prompt...
[01:43] <emery-c> dr_willis: i have it connected to my laptop, which is sharing the wifi
[01:44] <emery-c> i need to setup a dhcp server, but i need it on my already configured one first to get the files ( dr_willis )
[01:44] <dr_willis> you are seting up a dhcp server on the client you need to get on the network? that seems backwards
[01:45] <emery-c> yes
[01:45] <emery-c> well
[01:45] <dr_willis> you could just set a static ip to get things going..
[01:45] <byrnedhead> jrib: I manually updated the repository for R from lucid to precise, and it seems to be working; I'll ask if I have further trouble
[01:45] <emery-c> yes
[01:45] <byrnedhead> thanks!
[01:45] <emery-c> thats what i want to do
[01:45] <jrib> byrnedhead: ok, do note R is in the official repositories though
[01:45] <emery-c> i just want it to connect to the internet right now
[01:45] <emery-c> but it's not workign
[01:46] <mrspinx> Hey I have a fresh install of unbuntu on my laptop  any one know of a good way to troubleshoot overheating (only in linux)
[01:47] <newroad> re-installing the drivers drought back my access to the desktop, but after I log in, unity never loads. I have just a blank desktop (with the abiilty to open terminal through hotkey).. any ideas?
[01:47] <emery-c> dr_willis ?
[01:47] <Magiobiwan> newroad: Try "startx"
[01:47] <Magiobiwan> In a terminal
[01:48] <dr_willis> emery-c: ? .. so set a static ip?
[01:48] <emery-c> i have done that
[01:48] <kostkon> newroad, did you try resetting it? http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[01:48] <emery-c> but it wont connect to the internet or local netowork
[01:48] <dr_willis> done basic testing yet? can you ping the gateway? router? DNS servers?
[01:48] <emery-c> cant do any of that
[01:48] <briggz> emery-c: incorrect NIC driver?
[01:49] <dr_willis> sounds like you set the ip up wrong then.
[01:49] <newroad> kostkon, yes i did
[01:49] <emery-c> How do i fix it, i am really confused?
[01:49] <emery-c> when i try to ping it says
[01:49] <kostkon> newroad, hmm, ok then
[01:49] <newroad> but not all of the commands listed here on this page. let me try this
[01:50] <emery-c> From 192.168.1.2 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[01:50] <rogihor> i use Wcid for conect to Internet )
[01:50] <dr_willis> how exactly did you set the ip?
[01:50] <emery-c> by editing one of the files
[01:50] <emery-c>   /etc/init.d/networking
[01:50] <emery-c> it was in one of the tutorials
[01:51] <dr_willis> Hmmm.. im pretty sure you DONT edit that file.. but some other files
[01:51] <emery-c> oh
[01:51] <dr_willis> or you can use the ifconfig command
[01:51] <emery-c> how do i do that?
[01:51] <dr_willis> what does ifconfig say about the ip information?
[01:52] <emery-c> it says alot, anything specific?
[01:52] <dr_willis> inet addr:192.168.1.126  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[01:52] <emery-c> My ip is 192.168.1.2  BCAST 192.168.3.255 mask 255.255.252.0
[01:53] <dr_willis> and the route command shows the default gateways
[01:53] <emery-c> ?
[01:53] <emery-c> oh
[01:53] <dr_willis> 192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     1      0        0 eth0
[01:53] <emery-c> it shows
[01:54] <Shadowix> hi is it possible to install ubuntu server without creating any user(as it is asking for one), just using root by default
[01:54] <dr_willis> the initial user is the admin user Shadowix  with the root rights.. so i dont think thats a good idea
[01:54] <emery-c> 192.168.0.0     *         255.255.252.0              U  0  0  0    eth0
[01:55] <emery-c> default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 100 0 0 eth0
[01:55] <Shadowix> yes dr_willis, but i would like to do only a root user for testing purpose, possible?
[01:55] <emery-c> are the two that show up
[01:55] <lolcat> Shadowix: Sounds like a horrible idea, but you could always delete the user
[01:55] <dr_willis> Shadowix:  no idea...
[01:55] <dr_willis> most likely NOT doable during the install
[01:56] <dr_willis> Shadowix:  i wonder why you are using a netmask of 255.255.252.0 when its just a local lan,
[01:56] <emery-c> Me?
[01:56] <dr_willis> my networking skills are rather basic. im on a simple home lan here. so i dont need much more then  the basics..
[01:56] <dr_willis> yea. :0 wrong nick. heh.
[01:56] <xpistos> mv /home/x/Data/Dropbox/Camera\ Uploads/* /home/x/Pictures/Camera
[01:56] <xpistos> Thanks guys!
[01:56] <emery-c> i made it that
[01:56] <xpistos> or woops
[01:56] <emery-c> cause of the tutorial
[01:57] <dr_willis> emery-c:  sounds like you made some mistakes would be my guess.. but i dont know what tutoal you are following
[01:57] <xpistos> 0 20 * * 6 mv /home/x/Data/Dropbox/Camera\ Uploads/* /home/x/Pictures/Camera
[01:57] <newroad> kostkon: when I do unity-reset I get this error: "extension GLX is missing on display ":0.0".
[01:57] <xpistos> That should do it I think
[01:57] <newroad> and: "Fatal: glxQueryExtensionsString is NULL for screen 0"
[01:57] <emery-c> dr_willis   How should it be set up then?
[01:57] <davelindberg> newroad: Do you have integrated graphics or a graphics card (and if so what manufacturer is the graphics card)? I had an issue with my ATI Radeon card on my laptop.  The graphics driver from Ubuntu standard desktop installed driver and official driver from ATI site did not work.  I installed Open Source driver and the Unity interface issue was fixed after reboot.
[01:58] <puppy_parade> it's taking  > 30 minutes to boot from a flash drive with 12.04 on it
[01:58] <emery-c> I don't care the settings, i just need internet
[01:58] <puppy_parade> any idea how to find out what's wrong?
[01:58] <escott> xpistos, why not just symlink Camera Uploads to Camera
[01:58] <escott> xpistos, or vice versa
[01:58] <dr_willis> emery-c:  my gateway  ip is 192.168.1.1  so my netmask is 255.255.255.0
[01:58] <emery-c> ok
[01:58] <emery-c> will that fix it?
[01:58] <blackshirt> emerc-y dhclient eth0
[01:58] <emery-c> is it bad that i have 2 gateways?
[01:58] <dr_willis> the local lan just has a range of 192.168.1.*  (1 throguh 255)
[01:58] <newroad> davelindenberg: its a Geforce 650M
[01:58] <kostkon> newroad, try rebooting again
[02:00] <dr_willis> im not evne sure what a netmask of   255.255.252.0     would mean. ;)
[02:00] <emery-c> haha
[02:00] <newroad> k, just rebooted kostkon, same thing
[02:00] <emery-c> is it bad that i have 2 gateways?
[02:00] <dr_willis> normally its a 255 or a 0 for each field./range..
[02:00] <emery-c> ok
[02:01] <emery-c> but
[02:01] <emery-c> i have 2 gateways
[02:01] <emery-c> is that bad?
[02:01] <dr_willis> no idea. i only use the most basic of lan setups for my home.
[02:01] <dr_willis> router -> lan ;)
[02:02] <escott> dr_willis, that would mean a subnet of 10 binary digits
[02:02] <dr_willis> you are going   router -- wifi  ->laptop -> wired to a PC.  (correct)
[02:02] <kostkon> newroad, did you install the nvidia graphics driver? check which driver you are using, try giving in the terminal: software-properties-gtk  hopefully the window will show up
[02:02] <emery-c> yes dr_willis
[02:02] <dr_willis> escott:  that clears it up..... ;)     then again.. i barely know what a subnet is. ;P
[02:03] <dr_willis> emery-c:  so your gateway is the ip of the laptop i would think.
[02:03] <emery-c> oh
[02:03] <emery-c> ok
[02:03] <dr_willis> since the laptop is useing internet conection shareing mode..
[02:03] <davelindberg> newroad: Did you try the Nvidia driver from June 2012? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-295.59-driver.html?ClickID=d2mtm2tsoxksbkobmcnznsx20bn22ytbcymy
[02:03] <newroad> kostkon, i just installed the latest video driver per someone else in this channel
[02:03] <escott> dr_willis, yeah im not much more experience but his would range from 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.3.255
[02:03] <dr_willis> isent it?
[02:03] <newroad> i had this problem before isntalling the nvidia driver, however.
[02:03] <dr_willis> emery-c:  so what OS is on the laptop?
[02:04] <blackshirt> hello,good morning :d
[02:04] <escott> dr_willis, so except for not being a standard sized class A,B,C,D network it looks ok (the BCAST is correct)
[02:04] <kostkon> newroad, it seems that something has gone wrong then
[02:04] <newroad> kostkon, I realize ;)
[02:04] <emery-c> windows 7
[02:05] <dr_willis> emery-c:  you did turn on/enable the ICS feature of widnows? i thought that put a dhcp server on the windows box for the clients to get info from...
[02:05] <emery-c> Yes
[02:05] <emery-c> it had internet during install
[02:06] <newroad> btw, it looks like i can get a session manager to come up if I use Gnome. but both Cinnamon and Unity do not work
[02:06] <sebastian> i am not quite sure whether this is the right place but i might need some hel regarding the installation of ubuntu 12.04. could anybody help me?
[02:06] <emery-c> this is frustrating
[02:07] <escott> sebastian, ask
[02:07] <newroad> when I open nvidia x server settings it says: "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA V Driver. Please edit you X config file"
[02:08] <kostkon> newroad, I think you need to remove that driver and try again to install the one from the repos. Or at least, open the software sources and select the nouveau driver, and there is a possibility that unity will start after enabling it.
[02:08] <emery-c> so the gateway would be my laptop ip addrtess?
[02:08] <dr_willis> since its the ics server yes.. the laptops gateway would be the routers ip#.
[02:08] <dr_willis> as i understand it.
[02:08] <newroad> actually i did install the one from the repos
[02:09] <dr_willis> be curious if a live cd just 'worked' with the same setup or not.
[02:09] <emery-c> No
[02:09] <sebastian> thanks, escott. i want to install ubuntu on my desktop pc. it is an (u)efi system. i select my cdriom drive with the uefi annotation. grub starts. if i choose "install ubuntu" the screen just goes black. same for "try ubuntu"
[02:09] <emery-c> the laptop has a diffrent ip then the router
[02:09] <newroad> if I do sudo nvidia-xconfig, I get this error: "WARNING: unable to locate/open x configuration file. New X Configuration file written to ..."
[02:09] <dr_willis> the laptops gateway should be pointing to the routers ip....
[02:10] <darthdeus> hey guys, why could it be that a user i created isn't sourcing /etc/profile.d/* /
[02:10] <darthdeus> ?
[02:10] <dr_willis> darthdeus:  ther default shell could be 'sh' instead of bash.. how did you create the user?
[02:11] <darthdeus> dr_willis: via chef, the shell is set to bash
[02:11] <dr_willis> chef? Never heard of it.,
[02:11] <dr_willis> i normally just do 'sudo adduser billgates' ;P
[02:11] <dr_willis> check that they have the normal .bashrc* and other files from /etc/skel/ also
[02:11] <darthdeus> server setup automation thingy http://opscode.com/
[02:12] <darthdeus> hm interesting, he has no bashrc
[02:12] <woot-0854> dr_willis: what would adduser root do?
[02:12] <jrib> darthdeus: how are you sure they aren't being sourced?
[02:12] <dr_willis> woot-0854:  explode the system. :) or just fail most likely
[02:12] <blackness> it would break
[02:12] <woot-0854> :)
[02:12] <escott> !nomodeset | sebastian
[02:13] <dr_willis> there is a root user. just direct logging in as root is disabled
[02:13] <darthdeus> jrib: because there's one script inside of it which loads rbenv and it works for one user, but not for the other, and it's loaded via /etc/profile.d/rbenv.sh
[02:13] <jrib> darthdeus: do something simple like touch a file or echo
[02:13] <dr_willis> well i will bbl.
[02:14] <jrib> darthdeus: and make sure it's not a permission issue
[02:14] <darthdeus> jrib: it's not permissions, all /etc/profile.d are owned by root and both of the users have the same rights
[02:16] <darthdeus> looks like the user doesn't even have a home directory ^^
[02:17] <ubar> wad up
[02:17] <nakajima> こんにちは
[02:17] <blackness> delete the user, and readd.
[02:17] <nakajima> ？？
[02:17] <ubar> what up
[02:18] <blackness> english nakajima
[02:18] <nakajima> sorry
[02:18] <ubar> hi
[02:18] <nakajima> hi
[02:18] <woot-0854> !hi | nakajima
[02:18] <tweikable> Finnaly, dam have not used irc sence windows mil
[02:19] <woot-0854> Twinks ftw
[02:21] <emery-c> Hi, i need to connect my ubuntu 10.04 server to the internet, it is not connecting, i have tried everything, it is connected to the web via a cable to my laptop which goes to the wireless. internet worked on installation but now no longer works. Help please
[02:22] <Neo_8> hello
[02:22] <emery-c> Hi, i need to connect my ubuntu 10.04 server to the internet, it is not connecting, i have tried everything, it is connected to the web via a cable to my laptop which goes to the wireless. internet worked on installation but now no longer works. Help please
[02:22] <tweikable> hey does irc. still allow you to register Nicknames?
[02:22] <DaemonicApathy> !patience | emery-c
[02:22] <blackshirt> emerc-y, what is your laptop os ?
[02:23] <emery-c> Windows 7
[02:23] <newroad> anyone have any ideas?
[02:23] <newroad> i'm stuck here :(
[02:23] <blackshirt> emerc-y, have you setup internet connection sharing in your laptop ?
[02:23] <tweikable> ******************* Does anyone know the command for Register nickname on IRC%
[02:23] <jrib> !register | tweikable
[02:24] <emery-c> yes
[02:24] <emery-c> It was working during the instalation
[02:24] <sebastian> escott, thanks but i am a little confused. on the page the bot gave me there is some minimalistic gui where you can select nomodeset via f6. the screen on my machion looks like the third one in this link under "hybride instaalations medien" http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Baustelle/EFI_Installation_Erfahrungsberichte
[02:24] <tweikable> zthanks&& :)
[02:24] <suttiwit> does anyone know of an audio tracker that is in repo and works on CLI? I am on a CLI so i can't get a GUI...
[02:25] <jrib> suttiwit: what does an audio tracker do?
[02:25] <blackshirt> emerc-y, but not for now ?
[02:25] <woot-0854> suttiwit: are you looking for an equlizer?
[02:25] <walterwoj> Anyone here use uuntu on a remote seedbox? and thoughts?
[02:25] <jrib> !anyone | walterwoj
[02:25] <emery-c> Nope
[02:25] <suttiwit> jrib: i can compose music, I key in the notes and the sound will be based on the instruments.
[02:25] <emery-c> blackshirt *
[02:25] <jrib> suttiwit: ok, I don't know about that
[02:26] <blackshirt> suttiwit, what you mean with audio tracker ?
[02:26] <blackshirt> emerc-y, i don't play a bit with windows 7
[02:27] <suttiwit> blackshirt: google "audio tracker". wikipedia is good
[02:27] <blackshirt> suttiwit, sorry, thats not help ...
[02:27] <DaemonicApathy> I didn't even know audio worked with CLI.
[02:27] <suttiwit> DaemonicApathy: alsa
[02:27] <DaemonicApathy> Fair point.
[02:28] <blackshirt> emerc-y, you should ensure you get a proper gateway, dns setup, and proper connection
[02:28] <walterwoj> How do I setup ubuntu as a remote seedbox?
[02:28] <blackshirt> walterwoj, remote seedbox ?
[02:29] <suttiwit> !details
[02:29] <walterwoj> A machine you use to download torrents so as to not tie up your main machine with such tasks.
[02:30] <blackshirt> maybe
[02:30] <sebastian> escott, nevermind, i found out how to use nomodeset in this interface. but now i have different problems. now it freezes during the loading screen... where the five little dots under the ubuntu logo  change colors from white to orange
[02:32] <newroad> i'm starting to give up here. no one :9
[02:33] <newroad> :(
[02:33] <newroad> ?
[02:33] <newroad> after I ran the nvidia-xconfig, my resolution is now 640x480 on top of all of these other problems
[02:33] <davelindberg> newroad: what do you get if you go to terminal and type "glxinfo | grep OpenGL" without quotes?
[02:34] <newroad> dave: extension GLX is missing on display 0.0
[02:34] <Guest15982> Can someone familiar with mysql help me I have a few questions,  Im running 12.04
[02:36] <Guest15982> Does it really seem to scary for everybody?
[02:37] <walterwoj> Guest15982: What is your question?
[02:37] <blackshirt> guestr19852, yes, but changes your nick
[02:37] <newroad> davelindberg: extension GLX is missing on display 0.0
[02:37] <davelindberg> newroad: Try to reconfigure Xorg "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:37] <Guest15982> blackshirt: how does one change their nick?
[02:38] <newroad> done, what next?
[02:38] <blackshirt> type /nick someothernick
[02:38] <KI4RO> Guest15982: /nick <whatever>
[02:38] <Mitch_Starr> ok thanks
[02:39] <davelindberg> newroad: you will need to reboot.  I hope, Xorg will see new driver you installed.
[02:39] <subcool> I am trying to pull everything from my iphone4s, but= i keep receiving erros. I use to have an app that pulled every song and file from the iphone, but its mad old and id ont know where it is.
 ubuntu or windows- please.. any help
[02:39] <blackshirt> okey,mitch_starr ... So what is your problems?
[02:40] <darthdeus> ok not sure if you guys remember but ... i created the user properly, gave him the same .bashrc, home directory, bash, etc ... but he's still not sourcing /etc/profile.d/* ... even though he can do it manualy
[02:40] <Mitch_Starr> Ok, here goes,   Im running 12.04 server with mysql, and im trying to access the mysql server through libreoffice base on another machine on the same network,   I cannot for the life of me figure this one out.
[02:40] <newroad> k, rebooting now
[02:41] <blackshirt> is there a native driver for libreoffice to connect ?
[02:41] <Mitch_Starr> I can access the mysql server through Mysql workbench on the fedora pc so i know mysql is working properly,   but my problem comes when i try to get libreoffice base to work.    Should i go to a libeoffice irc to find better help or will this room suffice?
[02:42] <newroad> davelindberg: same thing :(
[02:42] <newroad> extension GLX missing
[02:42] <Mitch_Starr> I go to database wizard then connect to an existing database then select MySql
[02:42] <Mitch_Starr> then connect directly
[02:43] <davelindberg> newroad: :-(
[02:43] <davelindberg> newroad: if you want to keep trying the nvidia driver, I did find this... http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/295.59/README/index.html
[02:43] <Mitch_Starr> the problem i think is my ubuntu server machine wont let me connect to mysql lthrough tcp/ip.    I can connect to it through a ssh tunnel though,  but base willnot let me do that.
[02:44] <davelindberg> newroad: maybe it can help.  with my ati card, I opted to uninstall my driver from ati and install Open Source Galium driver.  Which fixed my issue.
[02:44] <davelindberg> newroad: sorry i could not help more.
[02:44] <blackshirt> mitch_starr, configure your mysql server to accept tcp connections
[02:44] <Iceman_B> hey guys, I;ve got a NIC problem, and my machine doesn't get an IP
[02:44] <newroad> i guess i could try to manually install the driver instead of using the repo
[02:45] <Iceman_B> "sudo lshw -class networ"  shows 2 NIC's and one says "DISABLED"
[02:45] <newroad> this is what i've been using to install the driver: http://techhamlet.com/2012/11/install-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10/
[02:45] <Mitch_Starr> You know what config option that is under?     I know the config file and all that,  just if you can point me to the option
[02:45] <Iceman_B> this is the one that has been workign for the past 4 years or so
[02:45] <Iceman_B> how do I enable it?
[02:46] <darthdeus> ok more targeted question, what manages if a user loads /etc/profile.d/*?
[02:47] <TheCrittaC> I have a problem with one of my sound cards.
[02:48] <TheCrittaC> It works fine in a 12.10 live environment, but not in my current installation.
[02:49] <sebastian> escott, i dont want to bother you but do you still think you can help me or am i a lost cause?
[02:52] <emery-c> blackshirt
[02:52] <emery-c> sorry
[02:53] <emery-c> i had to leave
[02:53] <emery-c> how do i get internet to my machine?
[02:54] <davelindberg> newroad: If you want to try Open Source Nvidia drivers... you can find directions here... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:55] <newroad> yeah, but the opensource driver is no good for gaming or video editing
[02:56] <davelindberg> newroad: have you seen this page for Nvidia driver install? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[03:08] <Chaos7Theory> Quiet for ~1600 people logged on...
[03:09] <e1nh4nd3r> Well, y'know.  It's Saturday night.
[03:09] <e1nh4nd3r> Even nerds have to sleep, drink, and take a break.
[03:09] <Chaos7Theory> That's true. xD
[03:09] <Neo_8> :D
[03:10] <Chaos7Theory> It's 8:10 PM here
[03:12] <newroad> how can I change back to the open source driver?
[03:12] <Chaos7Theory> So I don't understand what 'Freenode' is exactly, considering I'm not used to IRC in general
[03:12] <newroad> Noveau or whatever it is called
[03:18] <e1nh4nd3r> Chaos7Theory: It's simply the name of the network.  Not much more, AFAIK.
[03:18] <tsimpson> !freenode
[03:18] <e1nh4nd3r> ^ that
[03:20] <emery-c> Is there some kind of DHCP + TFTP server live cd iso i can download?
[03:20] <blackness> !botsnack
[03:21] <blackness> :x
[03:21] <emery-c> ?
[03:21] <blackness> ubottu factoid is 6MB..
[03:21] <blackness> that is a hugh ass database
[03:22] <IdleOne> !ot | blackness
[03:22] <emery-c> Is there some kind of DHCP + TFTP server live cd iso i can download?
[03:23] <WeThePeople> ubottu made a joke
[03:24] <blackness> why did i get a message from ubottu? saying my request has been forwared to *-ops
[03:24] <sebastian> ubuntu 12.04 installation freezes after selecting "install ubuntu" during loading screen. i am running a more or less modern machin with uefi board. any help or suggestions?
[03:25] <tsimpson> blackness: "ubottu <something> is <something>" is interpreted as a factoid edit request
[03:25] <blackness> oh.
[03:31] <Chaos7Theory> Honestly the ironic thing is I switched to Fedora 17 due to Unity, but Gnome 3 has been rather glitchy for me, like horizontal lines appearing after a while. So I'm thinking of switching back to Ubuntu x-x
[03:31] <scarrs> hello
[03:32] <subcool> I am trying to pull everything from my iphone4s, but= i keep receiving erros. I use to have an app that pulled every song and file from the iphone, but its mad old and id ont know where it is.
 ubuntu or windows- please.. any help
[03:32] <scarrs> question: I installed ioquake3. but running ioquake3 @ console tells me that command is not found... help?
[03:32] <roothorick> Chaos7Theory: if you're getting graphical artifacting it's not gnome's fault... either a) your video hardware is in distress or b) your video driver has a problem (and frankly, this is Linux, the latter is unfortunately very likely)
[03:33] <roothorick> Chaos7Theory: and by the by, if you prefer apt-get there's an unofficial Ubuntu flavor that ditches Unity entirely for a 100% standard gnome 3 experience
[03:33] <roothorick> that's what I'm running on my tablet, and frankly, it works better with the touchpad than it does the touchscreen :P
[03:34] <Chaos7Theory> It's Mobile Intel 4 Express, but the system thinks it's Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset. Then again, GM45 could have been the code name or something
[03:35] <emery-c> Is there some kind of DHCP + TFTP server live cd iso i can download?
[03:35] <roothorick> Chaos7Theory: IIRC recent Intel chips' drivers are still very WIP, so no DE is going to be totally stable
[03:35] <Chaos7Theory> It's not that recent honestly.
[03:35] <Chaos7Theory> It predates the HD series.
[03:36] <roothorick> hm, Q3'08
[03:36] <roothorick> uh, that definitely does NOT predate the HD series...
[03:36] <xxiao> is there a way i can return my ubuntu to a vanilla state
[03:36] <Chaos7Theory> Didn't the first HD one come out in 2010?
[03:37] <roothorick> oh, I'm thinking of a different HD
[03:37] <xxiao> i.e. after i installed some stuff to /usr/local/bin, and who knows what else, i want to get back to a vanilla state, i.e. pure ubuntu release stuff
[03:37] <roothorick> still, that's pretty damn recent as Linux drivers go
[03:37] <roothorick> I wouldn't expect anything newer than a late GMA to be 100%
[03:37] <Chaos7Theory> So, pretty much SOL as far as an 'out-of-the-box' stability goes?
[03:37] <roothorick> well, you could try the gnome 3 "software" beta thing that fedora is doing
[03:38] <roothorick> don't remember exactly how it goes
[03:39] <roothorick> there definitely is a big push to get gnome 3 to provide a good experience on systems with compromised or nonexistent graphics acceleration so expect huge improvements over the next year
[03:39] <Chaos7Theory> Well, I have other motivations to switching back to Ubuntu, at laest namely the wide support it gets not in just community but software compatibility and support as well. At least, save for Sun Java
[03:39] <roothorick> Chaos7Theory: Ubuntu Gnome-Shell Remix is the best of both worlds that way :P and no, we don't officially have Oracle (it's not Sun anymore) Java. You have to use a custom installer out of a PPA.
[03:40] <roothorick> NOBODY has Oracle Java. Except Gentoo, because portage is crazy like that.
[03:40] <scarrs> there is no /dev/dsp ... what do I substitute?
[03:41] <roothorick> scarrs: the new location is /dev/sound/dsp. If you don't have that you're missing a module...
[03:41] <Chaos7Theory> Honestly I actually went through rather simple steps to get Sun Java to work on Fedora since they supply rpms, and also had setup a script that fixed Minecraft.
[03:41] <emery-c> Is there some kind of DHCP + TFTP server live cd iso i can download?
[03:41] <scarrs> roothorick: ty will edit my commands and see biab
[03:42] <scarrs> :)
[03:42] <Chaos7Theory> Mainly because OpenJDK doesn't work with Minecraft, and even Sun Java 7 doesn't work with Minecraft right away due the incompatibility with some of the internal plugins I found
[03:42] <roothorick> well, OpenJDK does work with minecraft, it's just really, really slow
[03:42] <roothorick> because the OpenJDK NAPI stuff is woefully unoptimized
[03:42] <roothorick> and LWJGL abuses the crap out of NAPI
[03:43] <Chaos7Theory> It was... uh, the liblwjgl files
[03:43] <roothorick> really? Java 7 has a problem with LWJGL? Oh, that does not bode well.
[03:43] <Chaos7Theory> OpenJDK doesn't work with Minecraft at all in actually with the most recent versions. It cannot register keyboard events
[03:44] <roothorick> it worked for me, just so goddamn slow
[03:44] <Chaos7Theory> If you try to move (walk) or type or whatever, it doesn't pick up anything. It only recognizes the mouse
[03:44] <roothorick> you sure that was the JDK's problem?
[03:44] <roothorick> JRE, whatever
[03:45] <Chaos7Theory> I searched on it, most other people had the same problem and pointed to OpenJDK
[03:45] <sebastian> ubuntu 12.04 installation freezes after selecting "install ubuntu" during loading screen. if i am quiting bootlogo it freezes after generating locales operation is complete.  i am running a more or less modern machin with uefi board. any help or suggestions?
[03:50] <Chaos7Theory> Another more generic question, what's the point in having 'su' and 'sudo' instead of just one super-user command?
[03:51] <psusi> Chaos7Theory, sudo is a newer replacement for su that is far more flexible
[03:53] <Chaos7Theory> Which I noticed. It's annoying and pointless to so su -c 'blablah' when it's simpler to use: sudo command arguments
[04:01] <sebastian> ubuntu 12.04 installation freezes after selecting "install ubuntu" during loading screen. if i am quiting bootlogo it freezes after generating locales operation is complete.  i am running a more or less modern machin with uefi board. any help or suggestions? please i'm desperate
[04:01] <pear> s.net
[04:08] <DarKMode> echo $network
[04:11] <kj4> \msg nickserv identify istillpoopmypants
[04:12] <WeThePeople> how much hdd space does ubuntu take up??
[04:13] <Chaos7Theory> Says the system requirements are 768 MB RAM at elast, and 5 GB harddrive space
[04:16] <kj4> ls
[04:17] <Chaos7Theory> Something I don't understand is the point in LVM. They say the point is 'easier to resize partitions', but that's BS, ._. . It takes a lot of work to just resize one partition, and it's a lot simpler to just use Gparted on a simply arranged system
[04:22] <micro_j> Is there any way short of doing a fresh install to get ubuntu back to as if it were a fresh install?
[04:22] <rsser> !tar.bz2
[04:22] <kj4> micro_j: i'd just do a fresh install
[04:23] <rsser> I cant acess the internet, because I don't have browser. how can I decompress tar.bz2 files?
[04:23] <Chaos7Theory> If you have separate partitions for root and home, you can take the home folder and use it in your new installation so you don't lose all your personal files
[04:23] <Chaos7Theory> All you'd have to worry about from a fresh install then is reinstalling packages
[04:23] <Chaos7Theory> !lvm
[04:23] <rsser> I cant acess the internet, because I don't have browser. how can I decompress tar.bz2 files?
[04:24] <brandon420> rsser, You dont have to repeat your question
[04:24] <brandon420> Using the terminal, or gui?
[04:24] <micro_j> I don't have any important things on the computer, I just want to do a fresh install without having to download and make a new install disc, as I'm away from home and have very slow internet
[04:24] <rsser> terminal, brandon420
[04:24] <Chaos7Theory> Decompressing tar files should be installed by default.
[04:24] <rsser> but there is parameters
[04:24] <rsser> that you have to type
[04:24] <rsser> like -zxf
[04:25] <rsser> i dont remember them
[04:25] <brandon420> rsser, tar jxvf
[04:25] <rsser> thank you, brandon420
[04:25] <Chaos7Theory> The example I found was: tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz
[04:25] <brandon420> yepp
[04:26] <brandon420> tar jxvf <filename>.tar.bz2
[04:26] <rsser> Chaos7Theory: it is tar.bz2
[04:26] <Chaos7Theory> Oh, bv2? Yeah, -jxvf
[04:26] <rsser> it is different each one of them
[04:26] <kj4> linux isn't in the same league as an ms os
[04:26] <brandon420> rsser, just highlight me if you need me to look anything else up for you.
[04:27] <rsser> thank you, brandon420
[04:27] <rsser> that's all
[04:27] <Chaos7Theory> And I don't think you need internet just in case you need to use a command. Do man's depend on internet access?
[04:27] <rsser> i thank you very much for everything, brandon420
[04:28] <kj4> Chaos7Theory: sadly, mans with computers, do...
[04:28] <micro_j> kj4: Is there a way to do a fresh install from within ubuntu without downloading and creating a new install disc?
[04:29] <brandon420> no problem rsser
[04:29] <kj4> micro_j: could be, but i'd best it's easier to burn a new copy
[04:29] <Chaos7Theory> Well, since you can access the IRC, at least you'll be able to use man command/program, or potentially: command/program -h or --help
[04:30] <Chaos7Theory> The help parameter depending on the command I believe
[04:30] <micro_j> kj4: I have no doubt that it would be easier, but I am away from home and have such slow internet that i'm trying to avoid having to download the whole thing
[04:31] <kj4> micro_j: whats really wrong? user issue or system issue?
[04:31] <kj4> micro_j: make a new user, delete the old one
[04:31] <kj4> micro_j: that cleans up a lot of stuff
[04:32] <Chaos7Theory> Doesn't necessarily fix having an over-abundance and emss of packages
[04:32] <Chaos7Theory> mess*
[04:32] <RamchandraApte_> hello, I want to disable the GPU
[04:32] <rocsteady> amazing
[04:32] <rocsteady> ubuntu is amazing
[04:32] <m1rach4n> RamchandraApte_: why?
[04:32] <rocsteady> Because
[04:32] <kj4> Chaos7Theory: mm. you are right
[04:32] <RamchandraApte_> m1rach4n: to stop my game addiction
[04:33] <RamchandraApte_> I think I know how to do it anyways.
[04:33] <rocsteady> Just now, I rsync'd a dir from a remote host to my local host
[04:33] <Chaos7Theory> I noticed that problem with Fedora, that with all the depencies I accumulated, it was getting really messy @_@
[04:33] <rocsteady> & when I was specifying the path to the source dir on my remote host (from my local host)
[04:33] <Chaos7Theory> So it was easier to just reinstall the OS, than try to figure out which packages are no longer depended upon
[04:33] <m1rach4n> RamchandraApte_: it's much easier to remove your games btw
[04:34] <rocsteady> I was able to tab-complete the source dir
[04:34] <RamchandraApte_> m1rach4n: I removed it.
[04:34] <RamchandraApte_> but then I installed it again
[04:34] <rocsteady> I was using rsync over ssh (which by the way I'm a newbie to rsync)
[04:34] <RamchandraApte_> m1rach4n: it's easier for me to blacklist the GPU module
[04:35] <kj4> rocsteady: linux is ballz, right?
[04:35] <rocsteady> Is this an ubuntu specific thing?
[04:35] <rocsteady> Yup
[04:35] <snowshine> what we talk about?
[04:35] <YokoBR> hey guys, i have a hybrid hp g42 notebook, both amd gpus, but i can't enable 3D proprietary drivers... just the open source one
[04:35] <rocsteady> linux++
[04:35] <RamchandraApte_> YokoBR: you should have  bought one with Intel drivers
[04:35] <RamchandraApte_> rocsteady: please join #ubuntu-discuss to discuss about Ubuntu
[04:36] <YokoBR> :(
[04:36] <OerHeks> YokoBr AMD or Nvidia ?
[04:36] <rocsteady> RamchandraApte_: Will do
[04:36] <YokoBR> amd, HD 4200 onboard and HD 6310 discrete
[04:37] <OerHeks> YokoBr maybe this page is any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[04:37] <Chaos7Theory> ... They have an IRC Ubuntu channel called ubuntu-irc? x-x
[04:37] <m1rach4n> RamchandraApte_: i don't think it's possible to disable your GPU only, you hv to disable your graphic card as well...
[04:38] <YokoBR> OerHeks, nope, it doesn't :(
[04:38] <RamchandraApte_> m1rach4n: ?
[04:38] <RamchandraApte_> m1rach4n: aren't graphics card the same as the GPU
[04:39] <RamchandraApte_> m1rach4n: I'm going to blacklist the driver.
[04:39] <m1rach4n> RamchandraApte_: and you'll get a nice, black screen.
[04:40] <RamchandraApte_> m1rach4n: oh yeah oops
[04:40] <RamchandraApte_> m1rach4n: graphics card is different from GPU
[04:40] <RamchandraApte_> m1rach4n: I'll just boot recovery and undo the changes in case anything goes wrong.
[04:41] <Chaos7Theory> Curious what this will say
[04:41] <Chaos7Theory> !ubuntu
[04:43] <Chaos7Theory> !java
[04:45] <m1rach4n> RamchandraApte_: A graphics card is an interface of GPUs. Normal desktop/laptops do not a naked GPU.
[04:46] <atticus_> hi guys
[04:46] <m1rach4n> ^have
[04:47] <RamchandraApte> looks like I didn't get a black screen
[04:47] <RamchandraApte> supertuxkart is taking a lot of time to load
[04:47] <RamchandraApte> that means it using the CPU renderer
[04:49] <atticus_> I've some login issues in 12.10 gnome remix, but only with the graphical login. The terminal one works fine. has someone the some problem?
[04:50] <m1rach4n> RamchandraApte: you have not disable the GPU but 3d/hardware acceleration, i guess.
[04:51] <atticus_> couldn't find anything similar to it with google.
[04:51] <FireStorms> How can I find the signal name of a  running process?
[04:53] <RamchandraApte> FATAL: Module i915 is in use.
[04:53] <RamchandraApte> looks like it didn't get blacklisted
[04:54] <atticus_> FireStorms: pgrep
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> howto remove user login screen and guest session at boot properly?
[05:03] <bkc_> lotuspsychje: autologin
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> bkc_:no i mean hide users, not autologin users
[05:04] <suttiwit> hi
[05:04] <suttiwit> !details | suttiwit
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> !zeitgeist > lotuspsychje
[05:04] <bkc_> lotuspsychje: ooh, settings for login manager, it's under general settings -> login manager :)
[05:05] <nikolam> how to stop md device showing in partition list ? I removed everything I knew with mdadm and it is still showed i gparted. I would like to use that partition for something else
[05:05] <very> hi, in unity, what is the fastest way to switch between the open windows of an application?
[05:05] <bkc_> very: ALT+TAB?
[05:06] <suttiwit> I have a problem with byobu, I'm running ubuntu server version 12.04.1 When i try to press byobu's key combination that contains SHIFT, CTRL or ALT. It does not do like what the help page says. But I expect it to do the same as the help page says.
[05:06] <very> bkc_: looks right. i thought you could only switch between applications with ALT+TAB. but i tested it now and it shows all windows.
[05:07] <very> i think my ALT+TAB menu changed somehow. mm.. looks better now.
[05:08] <Ghost2> 啊
[05:08] <very> bkc_: i read that ALT+<key above TAB> was for switching between the windows of the same app. but i can only switch between two of them.
[05:09] <bkc_> very: thats something I do not know about as I do not use Unity :)
[05:09] <m1rach4n> !details | m1rach4n
[05:09] <very> but now i think alt+tab is the best solution in my case. i should have just tried it. thanks bkc_.
[05:09] <bkc_> very: no problem :)
[05:10] <suttiwit> hellooo
[05:10] <very> bkc_: what do you use then instead of unity?
[05:10] <bkc_> i3wm :)
[05:10] <kj4> very: try xubuntu\\
[05:10] <very> because unity is really driving me mad. so many weird things.
[05:10] <bkc_> very: simple tiling WM w/o anything and no bling :)
[05:12] <very> i thought i would have the least trouble with the latest lts of ubuntu.
[05:12] <suttiwit> I have a problem with byobu, I'm running ubuntu server version 12.04.1 When i try to press byobu's key combination that contains SHIFT, CTRL or ALT. It does not do like what the help page says. But I expect it to do the same as the help page says.
[05:12] <suttiwit> :{
[05:13] <bkc_> very: well, my personal(!!) opinion about the default Ubuntu GUI is that someone got a little bit too high after 9.04 ^.^
[05:13] <bkc_> or if it was 9.10... don't remember really :/
[05:15] <very> i bet it would make a nice wm for a small tablet. but it's really not the right thing for a desktop pc.
[05:16] <moose-machine> hi. i have just done a fresh install of 12.04. however my wireless network is very slow. web pages take a long time to load.installation of updates takes forever.
[05:16] <suttiwit> hello
[05:16] <iuser> because the network manager is changed
[05:16] <iuser> it have to talk back to the mothership
[05:16] <Chaos7Theory> Assuming for the worse? @ iuser
[05:17] <iuser> i just use wicd instead of default network manager
[05:17] <Laptop1> hi all I am trying to instal ubuntu from a usb abd am stuck at the ISO part
[05:17] <Chaos7Theory> ISO part?
[05:18] <Laptop1> "Select you ISO?
[05:18] <very> bkc_: so you installed a regular ubuntu but then switched the wm? or would i have to install a different ubuntu?
[05:18] <Laptop1> no, i am *trying to install it
[05:18] <moose-machine> network manager worked beautifully in 11.04. what can I do now? does wicd work better? I don't know which wireless card I am using. maybe broadcom
[05:18] <Laptop1> i am at step 2
[05:19] <Laptop1> it wants to know "my desktop iso'?
[05:19] <bkc_> very: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:19] <Laptop1> wtf is that??
[05:19] <Chaos7Theory> That's directed at very.
[05:19] <bkc_> very: I personally use ArchLinux since about 12.04 got released :)
[05:21] <Laptop1> Cam anyone help? with iso question. What does it want me to do?
[05:23] <Chaos7Theory> Laptop1: Honestly trying to think of what you're referring to.
[05:23] <Laptop1> ty chaos
[05:23] <Ben64> Laptop1: can you take a picture and upload it somewhere
[05:24] <bkc_> moose-machine: is the network-card internal of external(usb) ?
[05:24] <Chaos7Theory> Since I'm not sure if you're installing right now, or if you're extracting it onto the USB using Pendrive
[05:24] <Laptop1> i can ti am on windows and dont have a program for it
[05:24] <Laptop1> yes chaos i am at step 2
[05:24] <moose-machine>  bkc_: internal
[05:24] <Ben64> Laptop1: you don't have a camera?
[05:24] <Laptop1> no
[05:24] <Ben64> :|
[05:25] <bkc_> moose-machine: then open up a terminal and type in `lspci` (without the ``)
[05:25] <Ben64> Laptop1: do you have a cell phone?
[05:25] <Laptop1> (lol) yes but no camera
[05:25] <Ben64> phone without camera? are you from the past?
[05:25] <iuser> i want one like that
[05:25] <Laptop1> yes from 1974
[05:26] <yangwenjun_> gfg
[05:26] <yangwenjun_> gffg
[05:26] <yangwenjun_> hgh
[05:26] <Laptop1> But I love Ubntu and that is what counts here
[05:26] <yangwenjun_> gh
[05:26] <Ben64> yangwenjun_: stop
[05:26] <Chaos7Theory> !fallback
[05:26] <Ben64> Laptop1: well we're just trying to figure out what you're doing
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> my broadcom BCM4313 stopped working after update to 12.10...wich package to install?
[05:27] <Laptop1> "Step 2: Select you Ubuntu-12.04*desktop*.iso"
[05:27] <Ben64> Laptop1: where are you seeing that
[05:27] <moose-machine>  bkc_: done. the output is: 44:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[05:27] <Chaos7Theory> I think you're referring to Pendrive
[05:27] <bkc_> lotuspsychje: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:27] <Chaos7Theory> Have you downloaded the ISO yet?
[05:27] <Laptop1> Universal USB Installer 1.9.1.6 Setup is where I am seeing it
[05:28] <Ben64> ohh
[05:28] <Laptop1> I downloaded the iso
[05:28] <Ben64> then yeah, go ahead and select it
[05:28] <Laptop1> i am *trying* to install it
[05:28] <bkc_> moose-machine: http://askubuntu.com/questions/205704/cannot-get-atheros-ar9285-to-work-on-12-10 :)
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> bkc_:it says my driver is already latest
[05:28] <Laptop1> it wants me to type something, what should I enter at step 2?
[05:28] <Laptop1> is my question
[05:28] <Ben64> choose the iso
[05:29] <bkc_> lotuspsychje: do you have the correct firmware for it ?
[05:29] <Laptop1> again, *what* should I type into that box?
[05:29] <Chaos7Theory> You're not installing it, you're actually extracting the ISO onto the USB Flash Drive so yu can boot from it using a computer. It should just be a drop-down menu
[05:29] <Ben64> Laptop1: it seems like it's asking for the iso. pick it.
[05:29] <Laptop1> I dont even know what an iso is
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> bkc_:not sure wich to grab
[05:29] <Ben64> iso = disc image
[05:29] <Laptop1> HOW
[05:29] <Ben64> we cannot see your screen
[05:29] <bkc_> lotuspsychje: It's clearly explained in that wiki, just read _all_ of it :)
[05:30] <Laptop1> what should I type into that box
[05:30] <Ben64> it should be a file selecting thing, not a typing thing
[05:30] <moose-machine> bkc_: thanks for the link. it is trying to open it now. :) meanwhile i am in the process of installing wicd also. let's see what happens. :) thx.
[05:30] <Laptop1> ok then what file should I select?
[05:30] <Ben64> the iso you downloaded
[05:30] <Laptop1> and where
[05:30] <gmachine_24> Can I use partclone to copy a partition with 250GB of data .... in some reasonable amount of time?
[05:31] <Chaos7Theory> Hold on, trying to open the program
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> bkc_:theres no section for firmware on 12.10 on that page
[05:31] <Chaos7Theory> @ Laptop1
[05:31] <Laptop1> Where is it located?
[05:31] <Laptop1> ok
[05:31] <Ben64> wherever you downloaded it to
[05:31] <Chaos7Theory> Assumingly, it should be in your Downloads folders
[05:31] <bkc_> moose-machine: wicd is actually really nice :) my only reason for using network-manager is because I use a 4G-modem on a regular basis and I havn't hacked together any support for usb-dongles in it yet ^.^
[05:31] <bkc_> lotuspsychje: then use the last available :)
[05:32] <Chaos7Theory> The easiest way is to open the browser, then the downloads window and right-click on the download to select 'Open Containing Folder' or something along the lines to see where the file is located
[05:32] <Laptop1> ok
[05:32] <very> bkc_: arch linux sounds great. i'm just afraid that there will be problems i cannot solve sometimes. and then i'll spend hours or days on a task before giving up.
[05:33] <bkc_> very: indeed, if you don't already know exactly what you're doing, arch requires time, sometime lots of time ^.^ but if you have the time it's great for learning :)
[05:34] <Laptop1> i am still sooo lost
[05:34] <bkc_> very: Arch is mostly for fanatics (like me) and for people who want's a hobby ^.^
[05:34] <Chaos7Theory> Sorry just I forgot to install wine and installing it now. ._.
[05:34]  * iuser blacklisted arch
[05:34] <Laptop1> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[05:34] <bkc_> iuser: ?
[05:34] <moose-machine> bkc_: thx. i tried swtiching over to wicd when i first installed 10.10. however i had to uninstall network-manager instead, and it did not work. it was painful to locate and install network manager again. so i am a bit scared to try that again. :(
[05:34] <Laptop1> please look at step 2
[05:34] <Laptop1> and wtf should i do there?
[05:35] <Chaos7Theory> Okay, you selected the Distribution.
[05:35] <Chaos7Theory> Hit the browse button.
[05:35] <Ben64> Laptop1: hit browse and go to the iso you downloaded
[05:35] <Laptop1> why do they to make this hard?
[05:35] <Laptop1> i cant find it
[05:35] <Chaos7Theory> Hitting browse isn't that hard. ._.
[05:35] <Chaos7Theory> What OS are you on
[05:35] <Chaos7Theory> ?*
[05:35] <Laptop1> windows
[05:35] <Chaos7Theory> I mean, Windows XP, or Windows Vista/7/8?
[05:35] <Laptop1> 8
[05:35] <bkc_> moose-machine: uninstalling NM shouldn't be required to use wicd, but disabeling is (sudo service network-manager stop)
[05:35] <godlyhell_> I'm having a serious issue.
[05:36] <Chaos7Theory> It should ber under your user folder, then there would be a folder called Downloads, or it could have potentially saved on the Desktop instead.
[05:36] <Chaos7Theory> be under*
[05:36] <gmachine_24> godlyhell_, what is your problem. keep the editorials to a  minimum
[05:37] <godlyhell_> Updated from 11.10 to 12.04 and towards the end it went goofy forcing me to hardboot.
[05:37] <moose-machine> bkc_: that's great. thank you for that. and does wicd kick in automatically or do i have to start it from the terminal also?
[05:38] <Laptop1> i cant find it, why do they make this so hard on people who dont know shit about it?
[05:38] <very> i guess i would try arch if i had a fallback computer with a more user friendly os. so whenever there is a difficult problem i'm not forced to solve it immediately.
[05:38] <Laptop1> im just trying to install it
[05:38] <Ben64> Laptop1: you downloaded the ubuntu iso, correct?
[05:38] <bkc_> moose-machine: you have to start the daemon (sudo service wicd start) and then either start wicd-{gtk,cli} manually or as an autostart (this only works on the gtk-version as you might understand ^.^)
[05:39] <bkc_> moose-machine: so it's pretty much exactly like how NM works :)
[05:39] <moose-machine> bkc_: great thanks. :)
[05:39] <Grayham> Laptop1, it's Microsoft making it hard, they are evil.
[05:39] <godlyhell_> Now everything is all screwy. I'm sure the update didnt fully install but I cant figure out how to reinstall it.
[05:40] <Ben64> godlyhell_: If you want help, describe your problem. Saying that everything is "screwy" doesn't give us anything to go on.
[05:40] <Laptop1> chaos: i should have known, they make it sooo hard to install linux
[05:40] <Laptop1> those asses
[05:41] <Chaos7Theory> Well, did you ever open the browser and its download window like I said?
[05:41] <godlyhell_> After I booted up from hardbooting it, it looked like the install was successful. The whole look was different.
[05:42] <gmachine_24> moose-machine, there is a way to get wicd to start automatically when you boot your computer
[05:42] <Chaos7Theory> It's just a matter of finding where your downloads go by default.
[05:42] <godlyhell_> After rebooting again, it all reverted back to 11.11.
[05:42] <Chaos7Theory> @ Laptop1
[05:42] <Laptop1> ok trying agin
[05:43] <Chaos7Theory> Which browser did you use to download the file?
[05:44] <newroad> hmmm
[05:44] <newroad> i'm trying to manually stop x to manually install nvidia drivers
[05:44] <newroad> but when i stop it, i never get command line
[05:44] <gmachine_24> rc-update add wicd boot, I believe
[05:44] <newroad> I'm using sudo service lightdm stop
[05:45] <Ben64> newroad: why are you installing them manually?
[05:45] <bkc_> newroad: try CTRL+ALT+F1 :)
[05:45] <newroad> because when i install through repos it crashes my computer
[05:45] <Ben64> newroad: you'll have more problems down this path
[05:45] <newroad> thanks bkc
[05:45] <newroad> Ben, why?
[05:45] <Ben64> and it's unsupported here
[05:46] <chaospsychex> Ben64: a manual installation is unsupported ?
[05:46] <Ben64> every time the kernel changes, you will lose video
[05:46] <Ben64> chaospsychex: yep
[05:46] <bkc_> that isn't correct anymore...
[05:47] <chaospsychex> bkc_: what? the kernel changing and loosing video or that #ubuntu doesn't support a manual installation procedure ?
[05:47] <bkc_> chococrois: kernel-part...
[05:47] <Chaos7Theory> Weird... Ubuntu's video is really, really sugglish in VIrtualBox despite the fact I've given it 1.25 GB RAM and 64 MB of video memory and 3D Hardware Rendering
[05:47] <Ben64> #ubuntu doesn't even support PPA's
[05:48] <newroad> even with CTRL ALT F1 i get an error that X is still running
[05:48] <Ben64> newroad: have you tried "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[05:48] <newroad> do I use the hotkey after stopping X?
[05:48] <bkc_> Chaos7Theory: It's virtualized so not that much of a surprice really :P
[05:48] <newroad> Ben, I wated 14 hours today on that
[05:48] <newroad> wasted*
[05:48] <bkc_> newroad: sudo killall -s 9 X
[05:48] <Ben64> newroad: what was the problem
[05:48] <bkc_> after stopping lightdm
[05:48] <gmachine_24> godlyhell_, did it revert to the earlier version or did it just revert back to the previous GUI/desktop
[05:49] <Chaos7Theory> It's a surprise to me because other OSes haven't had as much problems. x-x'
[05:49] <newroad> Ben, it was giving this error:
[05:49] <newroad> extension GLX is missing on display 0.0
[05:49] <newroad> and I ended up having to reinstall ubuntu
[05:49] <godlyhell_> I think just the desktop. I'm not sure. The login page is different now, too. And under info it does say it's version 12.04.
[05:49] <Chaos7Theory> Then again, I haven't updated the guest OS ye, so that's probably why.
[05:50] <newroad> i lost Unity, and then I couldn't even change my res from 640
[05:50] <Ben64> newroad: what does "lspci | grep -i vga" say
[05:51] <newroad> its a geforce 650m
[05:51] <Chaos7Theory> Pretty high-end.
[05:51] <Ben64> is that the only card in there?
[05:52] <bkc_> newroad: screw manual install and go with the x-swat ppa instead :)
[05:52] <OerHeks> newroad, hybride optimus?
[05:52] <BluPhenix316> hey guys when i boot the ubuntu 12.10 install cd, it just boots to a black screen with the mouse pointer
[05:52] <BluPhenix316> i can ctrl-alt-f1 and get to a command prompt though
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> i want all users, guest and remote login away from login screen, how do i do this?
[05:52] <vivid> newroad, that product isnt on the support list for 304.43 (nvidia-current) http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-304.43-driver.html
[05:52] <Chaos7Theory> 650m is mobile, so that'd be weird if there was more than one dedicated video card in a laptop xD
[05:53] <vivid> or, scratch that, it most certainly is :p
[05:53] <bkc_> vivid: hence why he's trying to install a newer version manually :)
[05:53] <newroad> i tried x-swat ppa as well, actuallty
[05:53] <DBoyz> Hi. I ubuntu seems to have some problem. how do i fix this - http://123talk.in/internal-error.png
[05:53] <Ben64> newroad: have you tried the 310 drivers from the repository
[05:53] <shantorn> what is the default sound system in 12.10 pulse or alsa?
[05:53] <Ben64> shantorn: both
[05:54] <bkc_> newroad: If I'm not mistaken (or outdated) x-swat should keep up with nvidia.com, so manually is actually never required :)
[05:54] <Chaos7Theory> Is there a reason Ubuntu lacks a fallback mode like Unity 2D now by default?
[05:54] <Ben64> bkc_: yes but x-swat uses the stable ones
[05:54] <bkc_> shantorn: pulse is a wrapper on top of alsa
[05:54] <BluPhenix316> oh btw, i did find out in my ubuntu vm, if anyone tries to install the netflix-desktop from the ppa, netflix will only work if you have mscorefonts installed
[05:54] <Ben64> the new 310 drivers have more performance but aren't "stable" yet
[05:55] <bkc_> Ben64: uhm, yes... should be sufficient for a 650m :)
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> editing users.conf from etc/lightdm doesnt work for me, i want all users away how can i do this?
[05:55] <newroad> this right?
[05:55] <newroad> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[05:55] <hauss> I have a fresh install of ubuntu 12.10 studio am and unable to get compiz cube to work can someone please hlep a noob out?
[05:55] <Laptop1> ty chaos, I am tyrin wubu instead
[05:55] <vivid> Ben64, according to nvidia, 310.19 is official stable
[05:55] <hauss> I"ve followed guides to no avail
[05:56] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, edit  /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf  and set allow_guest to false, and for fiding users see http://askubuntu.com/questions/92349/how-do-i-hide-a-particular-user-from-the-lightdm-login-screen
[05:56] <Chaos7Theory> Wubu is a better idea for now, Laptop1.
[05:56] <Chaos7Theory> It means that if you don't like it, you can uninstall it.
[05:56] <bkc_> newroad: yes, that one :)
[05:56] <newroad> yeah it came out yesterday
[05:56] <Laptop1> i need ubuntu so bad it f'n hurts
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks:tnx i tryed the hide-users trick, but username still show after reboot
[05:56] <veryangry> can someone help me with a mypaint bug?
[05:56] <Laptop1> i am tired of this Windows shit already and the virus , what a scam
[05:56] <hauss> please someone help me get ubuntu 12.10 studio to work with compiz I would greatly appreciate it
[05:57] <IdleOne> !language | Laptop1
[05:57] <newroad> alright guys, I'll try this x-swat one more time
[05:57] <Chaos7Theory> Did you never really find the Downloads window, Laptop?
[05:57] <newroad> lets pray the world doesn't end again
[05:57] <Ben64> hmm, how come x-swat is still on 304?
[05:57] <os1ris> I was wondering if anyone can help me with a problem. I am running paralells , I was able to boot into my ubuntu install but now it boots up and goes black ( guessing its  display problem ) I was wondering if someone can help me with how to boot to CLI or anything else I can try
[05:57] <os1ris> thanks
[05:57] <Laptop1> will be back on Ubuntu soon I hope. It is now ready to reboot. I hope this works
[05:57] <Laptop1> ty Chaos7
[05:58] <veryangry> can someone help me with a mypaint bug
[05:58] <Chaos7Theory> The only problem with wubu I think is performance deg--He left @_@
[05:58] <anonymous> Helo
[05:58] <vivid> Ben64, because the 310 series just became "stable" most likely
[05:58] <newroad> hmmm
[05:58] <newroad> I see on one site they mention this: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:noobslab/nvidia-quantal
[05:58] <hauss> can someone please help me with get compiz working on ubuntu 12.10 i have nvidia drivers and compiz isntalled but no cube :/
[05:58] <newroad> http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/install-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu.htmlhttp://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/install-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu.html
[05:58] <bkc_> Ben64: I'd guess x-swat will pop up to 310 any day now :)
[05:58] <newroad> http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/install-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu.html
[05:58] <FloodBot1> newroad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:58] <Ben64> bkc_: yeah probably
[05:59] <newroad> should i try this noobslab version?
[05:59] <Ben64> newroad: i'd use x-swat or xorg-edgers if I were you
[05:59] <Ben64> I use swat myself
[05:59] <veryangry> can someone help me fix a bug from mypaint
[05:59] <BluPhenix316> anyone know how to fix the ubuntu 12.10 live cd booting to a black screen with a mouse pointer? i've tried searching myself and i keep finding people having problems after installing it, but i can't even get the live cd to boot properly
[05:59] <bkc_> Ben64: we (as in *rchLinux, not sure it that word was banned previously or not ^.^) got 310 just a few days ago so :)
[05:59] <newroad> but Ben, my device isn't supported
[05:59] <bkc_> as stabil that is ...
[06:00] <Ben64> newroad: well xorg-edgers have 310
[06:00] <bkc_> newroad: it will be in a few days :)
[06:00] <newroad> well i need this for my job..
[06:00] <newroad> :(
[06:00] <Ben64> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[06:00] <vivid> 650m is on the support list for 304.43..
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks:seems like theres a bug on it
[06:00] <Ben64> swat has 304.64
[06:01] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, interesting part "greeter-hide-users=true" in http://www.askmeaboutlinux.com/?p=1886
[06:01] <veryangry> can someone help me with a mypaint bug?
[06:01] <Ben64> veryangry: probably not, this is ubuntu support
[06:01] <chaospsychex> lol
[06:02] <os1ris> I am using Parallels to boot to ubuntu but I think I am having display issues..  Can anyone provide me maybe either hot key to boot to CLI or any help to get at least into the guest OS to grab some files
[06:02] <newroad> side questions, anyone ever hear of an ubuntu issue where a user constantly has http requests failing on all browsers and in apt-get requests, across both LAN and wifi?
[06:02] <arp-> hello,
[06:02] <arp-> extras.ubuntu.com is down now?
[06:03] <vivid> arp-, its constantly doing that, just remove it from the list..
[06:03] <arp-> for natty
[06:03] <Ben64> os1ris: if you have grub you can choose the "Recovery Console"
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks:tnx lemme try that one, i tryed hide users at bottom of list, lemme try put it in correct order
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> brb
[06:03] <veryangry> http://pastebin.com/yJre8XqB
[06:03] <veryangry> anyone?
[06:03] <os1ris> ben - no i don't even seen the recovery console
[06:03] <Ben64> os1ris: try holding shift when starting up
[06:04] <userZ> what if lubuntu livecd doesn't automatically configure interent connection?
[06:04] <veryangry> anyone?
[06:04] <veryangry> at least look?
[06:04] <Ben64> veryangry: you should contact the developers of that software
[06:04] <veryangry> I can't get logged in
[06:05] <veryangry> what year was gnu announced?
[06:05] <veryangry> 1983?
[06:05] <moose-machine> gmachine_24:how can wicd be started at log-on. from the startup applications? What is the command I need to add there?
[06:05] <os1ris> shift did not work either =[
[06:06] <Ben64> os1ris: press shift more and faster
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks:it worked, but its bit buggy..first time it freezes login screen into purple boot after reboot it works
[06:09] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, nice :)
[06:09] <roothorick> argh! I want to cross-compile for a 32bit machine, where do I get the compiler?
[06:10] <OerHeks> now you have a clean mean ubuntu-machine
[06:10] <veryangry> http://pastebin.com/yJre8XqB
[06:10] <veryangry> can someone at least take a look
[06:10] <OerHeks> veryangry, file a bugreport
[06:10] <veryangry> im trying OerHeks
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks:but it always mess up first boot to purple..need always reboot the frist time..i gues ubuntu doesnt like messing around with lightdm
[06:11] <newroad> side questions, anyone ever hear of an ubuntu issue where a user constantly has http requests failing on all browsers and in apt-get requests, across both LAN and wifi?
[06:11] <_DanN_> newroad: dns problem ? check /etc/resolv.conf
[06:12] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, full reboot is needed, i guess. or the first full reboot messed up too ?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks:yes first boot is always messed up and freezes my purple screen (without login)
[06:13] <newroad> it just says nameserver 127.0.1.1
[06:13] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, now remote, does that still appear?
[06:13] <newroad> change to 8.8.8.8?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks:i think lightdm doesnt like anything else then the default login
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks: yes guest and remote still show
[06:14] <_DanN_> newroad: and how about "pidof nscd" as root ?
[06:14] <puppy_parade> why does the display tool only let me select one screen before refusing to accept any more of my clicks?
[06:14] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, for remote i cannot find an answer yet
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks:when i remove greeter-hide-users=true it boots normal again without freezes
[06:14] <puppy_parade> and when it does that, it only lets me move the monitor to places I don't want it to go, like several monitor heights above or below the others.
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks:i know howto hide remote and guest
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks:but i need this purple screen freeze away
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks:this is what my lightdm.conf looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1366895/
[06:18] <newroad> fuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccccking shit
[06:19] <newroad> my unity is trashed once again
[06:19] <IdleOne> !language | newroad
[06:19] <newroad> Ben64, I used swat-x and now my unity is gone
[06:20] <newroad> and drivers aren't loading again
[06:20] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, i cant find documentation, so try to turn around > greeter-hide-users=true >> greeter-show-user=false ?
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks:tnx for help ill tweak around till i find the right one :p
[06:21] <veryangry> how do you fix a bad zip file?
[06:22] <nowayride> So using xrandr to fix 1920x1080 (using cvt modeline) the screen is squished horiszontally about 15%, anyone happen to know why off hand?
[06:25] <vivid> newroad, do you have an optimus laptop?  that could certainly be the cause of such issues
[06:25] <newroad> bkc_: sudo killall -s 9 X doesn't seem to find a process
[06:25] <ubuntu> hallo
[06:25] <newroad> vivid: yes I do, what can you tell me about that?
[06:26] <Guest12154> does anyone know how i can open a folder as root
[06:26] <vivid> newroad, not much, but i can tell you that the nvidia driver by itself likely wont work.  youll need to use bumblebee
[06:26] <bkc_> newroad: if X is started then it should be there... unless ubuntu moved to wayland :P
[06:26] <vivid> newroad, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[06:26] <newroad> thanks vivs, great guess :)
[06:26] <Guest12154> its fakeroot isnt it
[06:26] <Guest12154> or somthing
[06:27] <vivid> newroad, and since its support, you should have little trouble getting it working well on 12.10
[06:27] <vivid> supported*
[06:27] <Guest12154> hallo
[06:27] <Guest12154> anyone
[06:27] <OerHeks> Guest12154, use 'gksudo nautilus"
[06:28] <Guest12154> thatl give me root access
[06:28] <Guest12154> and if it aint nautilus
[06:28] <veryangry> D:
[06:29] <rhineheart_m> what's the lightest version of ubuntu?
[06:29] <vivid> rhineheart_m, the install from mini.iso
[06:29] <rhineheart_m> I only have 128 MB of ram here. P4 2.1 ghz
[06:29] <vivid> rhineheart_m, for desktop probably lubuntu
[06:29] <nowayride> Server :D
[06:29] <veryangry> can someone at least look at the error
[06:29] <Guest12154> im using thunar
[06:30] <rhineheart_m> desktop.. although the use of it is purely for browsing
[06:30] <veryangry> http://pastebin.com/yJre8XqB
[06:30] <OerHeks> rhineheart_m, 128 mb is too small for the lightest ubuntu > lubuntu
[06:30] <Guest12154> and no i cant get it its a live cd
[06:30] <vivid> rhineheart_m, probably lubuntu, maybe xubuntu.  your choice
[06:30] <iuser> and you can't put everything in the ram like me
[06:30] <very> thunar? mm.. is it possible to have a tree view for the folders and files in thunar?
[06:30] <woo> :)
[06:31] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[06:31] <rhineheart_m> :( ... so this means.. I can't install lubuntu in 128 mb ram
[06:31] <rhineheart_m> hi carrera ~
[06:31] <veryangry> I don't know how to fix a bad zip file when my file isnt a zip file its an ora
[06:31] <vivid> rhineheart_m, sure you can.  just be sure you give yourself some swap space
[06:31] <carrera> hi rhineheart_m
[06:31] <vivid> rhineheart_m, you should upgrade your ram.  old sdram like that is practically free
[06:32] <rhineheart_m> so technically 256 mb of swap?
[06:32] <OerHeks> Guest12154, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Lightweight_GUI_alternative_.28Xubuntu_and_Lubuntu.29
[06:32] <carrera> what's the best way to install a package residing on the local disk,  dpkg -i or is there an apt-get equivalent?
[06:32] <iuser> my linux distro run the whole system in the ram and it has persistence features
[06:32] <vivid> rhineheart_m, i would give at least 1 GB of swap.
[06:32] <rhineheart_m> ok. I thought it's going to be 2x of the actual ram.
[06:33] <OerHeks> carrera, dpkg -i is the correct way to do so.
[06:33] <rhineheart_m> based on the link.. it's 512 mb.. as the minimum for xubuntu or lubuntu
[06:33] <nowayride> That's an old school rule of thumb that usually doesn't apply these days
[06:33] <vivid> yeah, its a rule of thumb that is useful for suspending laptops i think
[06:34] <nowayride> That would make sense
[06:34] <nowayride> I know I wouldn't want to dedicate a TB HD to a server :P
[06:34] <vivid> though, 1 GB would be sufficient, its never bad to have too much ram
[06:34] <rhineheart_m> if xp can run smoothly in 256 mb...why not ubuntu? just a thought :)
[06:34] <nowayride> To swap*
[06:34] <vivid> yeah i would give this system 16gb of swap..lol
[06:35] <nowayride> I roll 256mb page file on my Windows box lol
[06:35] <vivid> rhineheart_m, xp was released 11 years ago....ubuntu was released last month
[06:35] <newroad> vivid: come here, i'm going to give you a kiss
[06:36] <veryangry> anyone?
[06:36] <veryangry> http://pastebin.com/yJre8XqB
[06:36] <iuser> i don't use swap file at cause of the speed
[06:36] <vivid> newroad, youre welcome, if you wish to file some complaints, i believe theres a discussion about optimus going on in the linux kernel mailing list right now
[06:36] <rhineheart_m> vivid, ok..to make it fair.. what's the version of lubuntu that can still run smoothly in 128mb?
[06:36] <Guest12154> ok oerheks
[06:36] <Guest12154> listen up
[06:37] <vivid> rhineheart_m, /shrug probably none of them
[06:37] <newroad> bumblebee seems to have solved everything
[06:37] <Guest12154> to get root access for thunar
[06:37] <Guest12154> type the following
[06:37] <Guest12154> gksudo thunar
[06:37] <Guest12154> ok
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> whats the command to purge remove zeitgeist completly again?
[06:38] <Guest12154> so the next time someone has a problem like that
[06:38] <Guest12154> you know
[06:38] <OerHeks> Guest12154, that would be obvious, if you don't use nautilus
[06:38] <Guest12154> true it would
[06:38] <rhineheart_m> actually.. just trying to make those old pcs usable.. than to buy licenses (ms) which  is actually more than the price of the pc :)
[06:39] <Guest12154> but i asked you and you said go here and leave me alone
[06:39] <Guest12154> basicly
[06:39] <vivid> rhineheart_m, just give it swap and it will be usable...not fast, but usable
[06:39] <MrPiracy> is there anything wrong with NVIDIA drivers in version 12.10 x64 ?
[06:39] <Guest12154> instead of the obvious
[06:39] <vivid> MrPiracy, not that ive seen
[06:40] <MrPiracy> after upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 a few weird things started happening
[06:40] <Guest12154> anyway thanx for the help atleast
[06:40] <rhineheart_m> thanks anyway guys. :) will give lubuntu a try though
[06:41] <vivid> rhineheart_m, good luck
[06:41] <rhineheart_m> which is lighter? xubuntu or lubuntu?
[06:41] <rhineheart_m> thank you vivid
[06:41] <Guest12154> i would say lubuntu
[06:41] <MrPiracy> if i use Nouveau, everything seems to be fine, but if I change to nvidia-current, I have a different desktop every 2 boots
[06:41] <vivid> +1 lubuntu
[06:41] <Guest12154> you only need 256mb to boot the live cd
[06:41] <Guest12154> xubuntu im not sure
[06:42] <vivid> MrPiracy, what do you mean you have a "different desktop"
[06:42] <nowayride> Maybe switching to 2d?
[06:42] <rhineheart_m> MrPiracy: I like your nick.. reminds me of MS products
[06:42] <very> okay, now i've switched to the xfce wm. but now when i use the mouse wheel on an unfocused window it receives the focus. is there a setting to change this?
[06:42] <TheNewsGuy> Hey Guys!!
[06:43] <MrPiracy> vivid, the login screen says 12.04 instead of 12.10 and all my desktop icons are gone, everything comes back to normal if i simply reboot
[06:43] <MrPiracy> rhineheart_m, ty, that was the purpose ;)
[06:44] <very> i've looked through the window manager settings. but the best i've found is "Raise on click". with this setting deactivated at least the window won't be raised when i scroll it.
[06:44] <rhineheart_m> what version are you using? :) MrPiracy
[06:44] <MrPiracy> rhineheart_m, i just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 64bits
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> howto completly remove zeitgeist (purge)?
[06:46] <MrPiracy> rhineheart_m, when the computer is starting, i see the graphic screen, but some text are added to it saying something about kvm being disabled
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> MrPiracy: its recommended to clean install instead of upgrade
[06:46] <MrPiracy> rhineheart_m, and when shutting down, it says killing all processes fail
[06:47] <ix_> is it worth it to install ubuntu 64bits if I have the 32bit version on a 64 bit machine? it works fine
[06:47] <MrPiracy> lotuspsychje, i know ... it's been a while I don't use ubuntu, so i was hoping upgrade was working flawlessly
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> MrPiracy: i had same few issues on upgrade, so clean installed works flawless
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> ix_: ubuntu64 is def worth installing
[06:48] <ix_> lotuspsychje, ok, thanks, maybe I will do that
[06:48] <very> oh, i just found the setting i needed. it is in "Window Manager Tweaks" > "Accessibility". strange place for this setting.
[06:48] <ix_> lotuspsychje, I wanted a minimal install anyway
[06:48] <MrPiracy> lotuspsychje, as far as i remember, i had this very same issue when upgrading gutsy gibbon years ago
[06:48] <MrPiracy> :(
[06:48] <Gyro54> I have a Thunderbird where the menus are broken. I have removed and reinstalled but it is still broken. How can I completely remove then start again?
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> MrPiracy: i know upgrading always got hardon settings to new system..
[06:49] <very> and the description of the settings is even wrong.
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> MrPiracy:so these days i always clean install
[06:50] <MrPiracy> lotuspsychje, yeah, i think i will end up doing it
[06:51] <MrPiracy> lotuspsychje, do you happen to know if 12.10 install will let me install grub2 to partition instead of mbr without any extra tweaks?
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> MrPiracy: i think default clean install will install grub2 on first section of your hd
[06:52] <bkc_> MrPiracy: no
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> MrPiracy:but you can manually partition and choose this grub2 on first of your hd
[06:53] <MrPiracy> lotuspsychje, bkc_, yes, ubuntu will kill my mbr ... i like to use chameleon instead of grub as my boot loader (cosmetic reasons)
[06:54] <MrPiracy> i'm guessing clean install will be easier :(
[06:55] <MrPiracy> anyways ... thanks
[06:57] <nowayride> So I think cvt is giving me info for the wrong horizontal refresh, I have the correct rates is there a way to derive the mode numbers?
[06:57] <Braden`> Hello
[06:57] <nowayride> Hi
[06:57] <Braden`> How would I stream an sql file from another server directly into mysql on my server?
[07:01] <dj062284> hey guys i downloaded the ubuntu 12.10 amd64 iso and used pendrive linux to put it on a flash driver but when i boot from the flash drive i'm brought to a grub prompt
[07:01] <dj062284> it just says GNU GRUB version 2.00-7ubuntu11
[07:01] <dj062284> a small paragraph and then grub >
[07:02] <Asar> hey, how do I update to the latest version of Java? anybody?
[07:02] <nv> make it again this time use Linux Live USB creator (also did you verify the ISO's MD5 sum?)
[07:02] <nv> you can download java from oracle
[07:03] <Asar> I want to update from the terminal
[07:03] <ix_> can I blacklist a module at install time?
[07:03] <nv> then you will need to find a PPA that supplies the most up to date version
[07:04] <shantorn> Asar, can be done would you like the commands?
[07:04] <Asar> please shantorn
[07:04] <shantorn> sudo apt-get update
[07:05] <shantorn> sudo apt-get install update
[07:05] <shantorn> sorry
[07:05] <Asar> I've got 100 updates waiting for me there... I'm trying to just do Java
[07:05] <Asar> the goon squad is after me
[07:06] <sudoecho> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:07] <sudoecho> apt-get install (package) to update single package
[07:07] <Asar> thanks guys... have a good one
[07:18] <Gyro54> Where can I go to get help with a Thunderbird problem on Ubuntu?
[07:20] <peterrooney> !ask
[07:22] <Gyro54> I didnt ask to ask I was trying to find where to go to ask the question.
[07:23] <Gyro54> I have been trying to fix a broken Thunderbird for 3 days and have not had any response
[07:23] <Gyro54> That is patience!
[07:24] <gunarm2> why does this command http://paste.ubuntu.com/1366951/ uninstall the gnome-session?
[07:24] <gunarm2> its like I can't uninstall packages from the gnome metapackage without it removing all of it
[07:28] <CHICCO> CIAO
[07:30] <userZ> are some older desktops just not able to boot from usb? and will a bios upgrade alleviate this
[07:31] <jahala> I know some older desktops are not able to boot from USB at all.  I am not sure about the BIOS upgrade.  Apologies if I am interrupting
[07:34] <Gyro54> userz: they will be very old desktops. boot from usb has been around for 7 or 8 years i would think
[07:34] <userZ> maybe found a solution...http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16822/boot-from-a-usb-drive-even-if-your-bios-wont-let-you/
[07:34] <Gyro54> userz: bios upgrade would not fix this
[07:35] <gunarm2> userZ, i'm guessing you already looked for a bios setting to set the USB at the front of the boot order
[07:36] <ut316ab> does anyone know how to make a bootable usb stick to install ubuntu for a uefi system? unetbootin and pendrivelinux don't work it just brings me to a grub prompt
[07:36] <userZ> gunarm2, yes did that no option
[07:43] <SushiDude> Hi, I was having some issues with compiz so I reseted the settings to default using ccsm and now unity is broken... I tried restoring the compiz settings files(~/.config/compiz-1 and ~/.gconf/apps/compiz-1 and .gconf/apps/compizconfig-1). I tried re-enabling the unity plugin. Nothing has worked
[07:44] <SushiDude> is there anyway I can reset unity?
[07:44] <theadmin> SushiDude: Well, unity --reset, but I'm not sure it resets the compiz settings as well
[07:44] <SushiDude> unity --reset does not work in 12.10
[07:44] <SushiDude> they removed it
[07:44] <theadmin> Oh, I see
[07:44] <theadmin> Then I dunno
[07:45] <sudoecho> userZ: to get around not being to boot from usb, you can download 'ploop' and burn the image to a bootable cd, set cd-rom to boot first and let ploop load. Then select USB from the menu, if you have a bootable USB drive plugged in it should boot
[07:45] <sudoecho> *being able to
[07:45] <SushiDude> I don't want to have to do a full restore because then I will lose everything I did today
[07:45] <SushiDude> but I don
[07:45] <theadmin> sudoecho: It's "plop".
[07:45] <SushiDude> but I don't know where compiz stores all of its settings
[07:46] <theadmin> SushiDude: Well you could go to extremes and remove ~/.gconf and ~/.config altogether
[07:46] <theadmin> SushiDude: But that may affect other apps (reset their settings)
[07:46] <sudoecho> theadmin: oh right. userZ, download plop... forget ploop... not sure where I got the extra o.
[07:46] <SushiDude> theadmin, I am not going to remove those...
[07:47] <theadmin> SushiDude: Alright then I'm out of ideas
[07:48] <theadmin> SushiDude: Try: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[07:48] <theadmin> SushiDude: After which restart Unity: setsid unity
[07:48] <userZ> yea thanks, plop looks like the solution
[07:49] <simplew> im having problems with upload packages in ppa, anyon around that can help with it?
[07:50] <theadmin> simplew: You don't upload packages, you push your bazaar branch and let Launchpad build the packages
[07:50] <SushiDude> theadmin, dconf seems to have a lack of documentation, what does the "-f" option do?
[07:50] <SushiDude> I am assuming it forces the reset?
[07:50] <theadmin> SushiDude: Not too sure. I found this by searching for "reset compiz ubuntu 12.10"
[07:51] <simplew> theadmin: exactly, the issue is that i did upload a package and then i deleted it, and now i have upload a new build with dput -f and it doesnt appear in my ppa
[07:51] <SushiDude> well I guess I can't mess this up any more, here we go...
[07:52] <nowayride> So anyone good with xrandr and modelines?
[07:52] <simplew> theadmin: so why sint the package not appearing anymore when was uploaded with dput -f ?
[07:53] <theadmin> simplew: Not too sure what that even is, I'm not much of a developer
[07:53] <simplew> theadmin: im trying to figure out why doesnt the package doesnt appear anymore in my ppa to be built
[07:54] <SushiDude> theadmin, that worked, thank you
[07:54] <simplew> theadmin: so this is a launchpad related problem
[07:54] <theadmin> simplew: Hm. Might want to ask in #launchpad
[07:54] <theadmin> SushiDude: Yay
[07:54] <simplew> theadmin: already did, no answer
[07:59] <theadmin> simplew: Silly question but did you commit your modifications before pushing them?
[07:59] <simplew> theadmin: comit where?
[08:00] <os1ris> I am having some problems in Parallels when booting into ubuntu.. I don't have grub.. Anyone know of hotkeys to enter any type of mode  for CLI or test display on boot ?
[08:00] <simplew> theadmin: but i already know whats the problem and im fixing it
[08:00] <theadmin> os1ris: Why not use VIrtualbox? It works better with Linux
[08:01] <os1ris> Well the VM cwont display after a reboot. Hoping its a dokplay but i need to get data off of it
[08:02] <os1ris> display.. wow can not type.
[08:03] <huck23> can someone help me install linux on a laptop with secure boot
[08:04] <APV> Hello, glxinfo & glxgears give me error "BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[08:04] <APV>  Major opcode of failed request:  139 (ATIFGLEXTENSION)"
[08:06] <huck23> i have disabled secure boot but for some reason ubuntu will not boot. it just gets stuck at bios
[08:06] <userZ> do ide to sata adapters work ok?
[08:07] <userZ> to change to an internal dvdrw from a ide hard drive?
[08:10] <quintus> hey
[08:10] <quintus> well wassup
[08:10] <huck23> hey homie what's up?
[08:10] <quintus> nm mahn
[08:10] <quintus> well my ubuntu
[08:10] <quintus> seems to be workin really slow
[08:11] <rawfodog> uptime ?
[08:11] <rawfodog> did you reboot it ?
[08:11] <quintus> what do u mean
[08:11] <quintus> ya
[08:11] <rawfodog> type uptime in terminal to see how long your machine has been up for
[08:11] <milo64> hi i need help
[08:11] <quintus> 43 minutes
[08:12] <rawfodog> how much disk space do you have left ?
[08:12] <milo64> I am on Ubuntu server 12.04.1, you see... The font of the text is bolder and the color of everything is changed. For example, Blue becomes Cyan. Why?
[08:12] <milo64> is there a way to fix?
[08:12] <rawfodog> quintus, type "df -h"
[08:13] <rawfodog> did it just change by itself milo64 ?
[08:13] <quintus> rawfogog i did that now what
[08:13] <rawfodog> quintus, does it look like you are running out of space ?
[08:14] <milo64> rawfodog: i installed it once and i reinstalled it and after that, everything is bold and colors are different. it = ubuntu server
[08:14] <quintus> naah ive got about 208 gb of hardisk space left
[08:14] <Orion78> Hello, how to force grub auto-configuration mechanizm to always use UUID for all detected linux systems?
[08:14] <huck23> oh nevermind it's working now D:
[08:15] <rawfodog> quitus, dont know what to tell ya. Did you try a different windows manager like mate ? maybe your videocard isnt up to snuff with unity
[08:15] <milo64> .........
[08:15] <rawfodog> milo64, how are you accessing your server ?
[08:15] <rawfodog> via ssh ?
[08:15] <milo64> rawfodog: i am on it now
[08:16] <joshua342532453> quick question i keep hearing about custom wine wrappers i want to run kerbal space program in linux but my frame rates are low in wine any suggestions im not new to linux but very new to wine
[08:17] <milo64> rawfodog: ...
[08:17] <rawfodog> joshua342532453, try PLAYONLINUX. its a wine front end, there are preconfigured profiles for games
[08:17] <Jordan_U> Orion78: In other words, you're having a problem right now that one of the other distributions you have installed is being detected by grub-mkconfig, and the entry that grub-mkcfonfig is creating is using device names rather than UUIDs, correct?
[08:18] <rawfodog> milo64, are you ssh in ?
[08:18] <theadmin> I have a problem... Ubuntu reports my battery as 97% charged and it's not going up at all. It was 98% yesterday and before that it displayed 100% as it truly is
[08:18] <milo64> rawfodog: no.. I installed ubuntu server on a laptop... So, I am using it directly
[08:19] <rawfodog> milo64, sometimes different terminals have different color profiles. If you are connectting from another computer then the first time you saw the colors, there is a good chance this would be the reason.
[08:19] <theadmin> joshua342532453: Install the video drivers from your video card manufacturer (use the "Additional Drivers" tool that comes with Ubuntu)
[08:19] <milo64> ?
[08:19] <rawfodog> other then that, google how to change you color profiles
[08:19] <joshua342532453> thradmin
[08:19] <joshua342532453> im using intel integrated graphics
[08:20] <joshua342532453> runs fine in windows
[08:20] <milo64> rawfodog: look, this is plain CLI, i have no x installed
[08:21] <rawfodog> milo64, I dont know what your problem is
[08:21] <milo64> oh my god
[08:22] <theadmin> milo64, what's the output of "echo $PS1"?
[08:22] <scotty^> joshua342532453 - I've joined mid conversation.  Which type of Intel integrated graphics are you using exactly?  On which version of Ubuntu?  And what problem are you having?
[08:23] <joshua342532453> 12.04 intel on a i3 dell inspiron 14r
[08:24] <scotty^> And what problem are you having?
[08:24] <joshua342532453> ksp runns choppy in wine like at half speed
[08:25] <scotty^> What is ksp?
[08:26] <scotty^> Also, we'll need a bit more specific info about your graphics - Can you please tell us the output of lspci -vvnn | grep "VGA Compatible"
[08:26] <theadmin> scotty^: That won't output anything :P
[08:26] <theadmin> scotty^: You want to grep for "VGA compatible"
[08:27] <theadmin> With a lowercase "c", or just use "grep -i"
[08:27] <scotty^> ah
[08:27] <scotty^> thanks
[08:28] <scotty^> memory corruption :)
[08:28] <theadmin> Can't remember all those strings, I usually just search for "VGA"
[08:29] <joshua342532453> Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
[08:29] <anonym> my Ubuntu is set up perfect, everything works how I want it too, I wish to keep it this way, Do you long time Linux users have a backup solution for the system? I do not mean Home but the root system and installed programs.
[08:29] <scotty^> hmm
[08:30] <joshua342532453> all linux games run fine
[08:30] <rawfodog> anonym, you mean a drive snapshot ?
[08:30] <joshua342532453> its just with wine this one game
[08:30] <theadmin> anonym: The downloaded packages for programs are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/ if that tells you anything. Other than that you could just dd the drive
[08:30] <anonym> rawfodog, yeah, it I can pull back my system as it is now at will
[08:30] <rawfodog> joshua342532453, did you not try playonlinux ????
[08:30] <llutz_> scotty^: what did you expect suggesting "-vvnn"?
[08:30] <theadmin> joshua342532453: Sounds more like a wine problem to me
[08:30] <joshua342532453> thtas what i was thinking
[08:31] <joshua342532453> but according to all the furoms it runs fine in wine but im new to wine
[08:31] <joshua342532453> so i really dont know what im doing
[08:31] <rawfodog> playonlinux comes with preconfigure wine profiles.Ive mentioned this 3 times. Download it and try that
[08:31] <theadmin> joshua342532453: "runs fine in wine" can often be *very* hardware-specific
[08:31] <Bl4cklisted> make sure to grab winetricks
[08:31] <joshua342532453> will do thanks
[08:31] <userZ> i need a dvd burner, how cheap do they go $15?
[08:31] <joshua342532453> ive got wine tricks
[08:31] <theadmin> joshua342532453: Can work perfectly with one ATI card but fail with another, for instance
[08:31] <theadmin> userZ: ##hardware
[08:31]  * rawfodog facepalms
[08:31] <theadmin> joshua342532453: Generally, check #winehq for wine-releated questions
[08:32] <anonym> theadmin; yeah, but that wont help with a dead drive, what is DD the drive?
[08:32] <theadmin> rawfodog: PlayOnLinux just gives you a nice menu to run your apps in wine, it won't increase the performance
[08:32] <theadmin> anonym: dd if=/dev/sda of=something.img
[08:33] <Orion78> Jordan_U: Yes, that is correct.
[08:33] <Orion78> Jordan_U: Sorry, I was looking for an answer on the web right now.
[08:34] <scotty^> llutz_ That same command gives me 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] [1002:4e48] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[08:34] <Jordan_U> Orion78: The settings used in entries for other detected distributions are taken from that distribution's bootloader's configuration files, so if that distribution is configured to use UUID, the entry will have UUIDs (and if not, then not).
[08:35] <Bl4cklisted> Ive had issues with playonlinux - wine really isnt that bad to figure out without PoL anyway
[08:36] <Orion78> Jordan_U: I did not know that. So I should reboot, reconfigure other system and try again. Many thanks.
[08:36] <Jordan_U> Orion78: Yes, that's the simplest solution.
[08:36] <Jordan_U> Orion78: You're welcome.
[08:37] <Jordan_U> Orion78: (You'll also need to go back into Ubuntu and run "sudo update-grub" to re-write the grub.cfg with the new settings).
[08:37] <Guest43432> hello, its 2:37 and stuck on a 12 hour CQ shift, good thing for irc i guess
[08:37] <blackshirt> 12 hour ? Its amazing ....
[08:38] <Guest43432> military man, they could tell me 24 hour shift and it would not have supprised me much
[08:38] <theadmin> Guest43432: isn't that, like, illegal? work shifts are supposed to be 8 hours long at most :/ Either way, this is an Ubuntu support channel. Ask away if you have any related questions, if not please check out #ubuntu-offtopic or #defocus
[08:38] <DarthEaron> changed my nickname from Guest43432
[08:39] <scotty^> Yes, IRC is great for such situations, bur lets keep on topic please.
[08:39] <llutz_> theadmin: 8hrs? in what paradise^w country do you live? ;)
[08:39] <theadmin> llutz_: Russia... I thought that was the same about all over the world right now? o_O
[08:40] <DarthEaron> okay thanks, imma have to log out of #ubuntu though because irssi in terminal only lets me connect to one irc channel (or at least i cant figure out how to switch between them)
[08:40] <robotti^> llutz_: I live in Finland :)
[08:40] <theadmin> DarthEaron: Alt+arrows or Alt+window number
[08:40] <scotty^> So...
[08:40] <blackshirt> dartearon, ctrl+p to switch
[08:40] <robotti^> llutz_: there is 8 hour work shifts
[08:41] <DarthEaron> thanks man, okay one more quick question, whats the slash command for messeging people
[08:41] <scotty^> If I update Unity do I need to reboot?
[08:41] <blackshirt> query
[08:41] <theadmin> DarthEaron: /msg or /query (depends if you want it to open a new window when the reply arrives or right away)
[08:42] <scotty^> !ubottu unity
[08:43] <theadmin> scotty^: You just say !unity, no need to put the ubottu's name there
[08:43] <scotty^> !unity
[08:43] <theadmin> scotty^: No, you won't need to reboot, just restart Unity or log out and back in
[08:43] <auronandace> scotty^: the update manager tells you whether you need to reboot
[08:43] <blackshirt> scotty^, not really needed
[08:43] <scotty^> If I update Unity do I need to reboot?
[08:43] <scotty^> oops
[08:43] <scotty^> sorry
[08:43] <scotty^> updating via command-line here
[08:44] <blackshirt> just goes away from update manager told to you ....
[08:44] <scotty^> theadmin - sudo unity - restart
[08:44] <scotty^> ?
[08:45] <theadmin> scotty^: No need for sudo, just "setsid unity"
[08:45] <scotty^> thanks
[08:47] <scotty^> Whoah!
[08:48] <scotty^> Everything came back though :)
[08:48] <scotty^> except window positions
[08:49] <theadmin> Ah yes, the window manager restart may cause unexpected shuffling, sorry about that
[08:49] <scotty^> np
[08:53] <scotty^> got a lot of errors on the console when I did that, but they are mostly about gestures and this is a desktop system without a touchscreen or trackpad so it's probably OK.
[08:55] <Hetep> so updating & upgrading did not update nor upgrade java
[09:12] <kathirvel> Hai...
[09:13] <hatori> hai
[09:13] <kathirvel> Good Evening
[09:14] <kathirvel> Hai hatori
[09:14] <Evil_Eric> how do i stop ubuntu from updating certain packages
[09:14] <kathirvel> How Stop Software update in ubuntu Parmanently?
[09:14] <kathirvel> any options available/
[09:14] <kathirvel> ?
[09:15] <Evil_Eric> no i just wanna stop 2 packages from updating there xorg
[09:16] <kathirvel> where locate ubuntu head office?
[09:16] <kathirvel> i means, which country?
[09:17] <RamchandraApte> kathirvel: there is no head office
[09:17] <RamchandraApte> kathirvel: contributors come from around the world
[09:17] <RamchandraApte> kathirvel: canonical has a head office though.
[09:19] <very> mm.. is there a way to cancel a scroll action?
[09:20] <very> unfortunately i'm not able to find an answer.
[09:21] <Bl4cklisted> In terminal?
[09:23] <very> when i click on the knob of a scrollbar and drag it. but then i want to return to the original position.
[09:23] <kathirvel> Thanks for reply... RamchandraApte?
[09:23] <kathirvel> நன்றி.... In my tamil
[09:23] <kathirvel> language
[09:23] <very> i can remember in windows it was (probably still is) possible to cancel the scroll by dragging the mouse cursor away from the scroll bar.
[09:24] <Bl4cklisted> very: Interesting - Have never had a problem with that
[09:24] <RamchandraApte> kathirvel: I am indian
[09:25] <kathirvel> Happy
[09:25] <kathirvel> RamchandraApte
[09:25] <RamchandraApte> kathirvel: happy diwali?
[09:25] <kathirvel> I am very happy to hear this 'Indian'
[09:25] <kathirvel> Are you know tamil/
[09:25] <kathirvel> ?
[09:26] <RamchandraApte> kathirvel: my mother is tamil; but I don't know tamil
[09:26] <very> Bl4cklisted: mm.. you mean you never needed this feature? sometimes i just want to scroll to a different position just for a short while to look something up. but then i want to return immediately without having to search for the original position.
[09:26] <kathirvel> I am a rationalist and periyarist,
[09:26] <kathirvel> so i am not celeberate diwali.
[09:27] <Bl4cklisted> very: In those cases I end up using Find (usually Ctrl+f) or PgUp/Dwn instead of the scrollbar
[09:28] <RamchandraApte> kathirvel: I am am tamil-mahastrian
[09:29] <RamchandraApte> yes?
[09:29] <very> so since i'm using ubuntu i always think twice before looking something up. and i make mental notes about how to find the original position.
[09:29] <RamchandraApte> kathirvel: please PM me
[09:29] <very> usually this is a problem on very long web pages.
[09:30] <Bl4cklisted> very: There's got to be a way
[09:32] <very> when i search for "cancel scroll" on google i only get results for "disable overlay scrollbars".
[09:35] <naftilos76> hi everyone, how do i remove a package without removing its' dependencies?
[09:35] <naftilos76> or rather purge
[09:36] <Bl4cklisted> naftilos76: apt-get remove [x]?
[09:36] <naftilos76> sudo dpkg --purge --nodeps pkg_name ?
[09:36] <naftilos76> no that is remove WITH deps
[09:36] <Alarm> hello , i got a weak signal on my realtek 8187 wireless. i thought of manually installing the drivers from realtek . i saw on their website that the drivers are for kernels Linux driver for Kernel 3.0.0/3.1.0/3.2.0
[09:37] <Alarm> i have a kernel version 3.5 , would that be a problem ?
[09:37] <Bl4cklisted> naftilos76: Ah my bad - currently not in *buntu
[09:37] <llutz_> naftilos76: only if the deps aren't needed for any other package, but why keeping them?
[09:38] <naftilos76> i installed some pkgs while i shouldn't and now i have to get rid of them but they ask for many pkgs to be removed with them and that is wrong
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> naftilos76  you want to keep orphaned dependencies?
[09:38] <UniLab> can I get some basic help?
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> UniLab  if you're sweet
[09:39] <naftilos76> they are not orphaned
[09:39] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: If you give out candies
[09:39] <blackshirt> !find orphan
[09:39] <UniLab> :P I just want to know how to properly dual-boot Ubuntu 12.10 with Windows 8 Pro
[09:40] <nowayride> I wanta candies
[09:40] <naftilos76> it is weird but i mixed up things a little bit
[09:40] <UniLab> I have 8 installed currently
[09:40] <blackshirt> !info deborphan
[09:40] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: a few options
[09:40] <nowayride> Windows 8? /backs up slowly
[09:40] <UniLab> yes Windows 8, and I want to install Ubuntu alongside
[09:41] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab:  I am sorry you downgraded to win8, but you could try the Wubi installer or just run a liveCD and install alongside during the install GUI process
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> UniLab  is this link useful http://www.intowindows.com/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu/
[09:41] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Or that^
[09:44] <UniLab> :/ I am going to try dualbooting it in a virtual machine first, if I succeed, I will try IRL
[09:45] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Ubuntu has the "install side-by-side" option during install - A VM will not display that option since it would not detect another OS
[09:45] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: http://cloud.intowindows.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Dual-Boot-Windows-8-And-Ubuntu-Step12_thumb.jpg
[09:45] <UniLab> bl4cklisted, i am going to install 8 in the VM first and then proceed to installing ubuntu
[09:46] <very> since i seem to have my scrollbar problem with web pages only i think i'm going to use a work around. i will just append a # in the location bar and therefore create a history entry for the original position.
[09:46] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: just as long as you do win8 first, I should go fine
[09:46] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: It should go fine*
[09:47] <UniLab> i know, microsoft is a b!tch and ditches linux
[09:47] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: otherwise, youd have to rebuild grub, and that is not fun
[09:47] <Besogon> hi! Can anyone help me with rules file? http://pastebin.com/Hp4hG3Wt
[09:47] <UniLab> 8 is installing in VM
[09:48] <UniLab> also, does the "alongside" option create new partition?
[09:48] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Yes. Just for Ubuntu
[09:49] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Windows will not see it, but Linux will see the Windows partition when youre using Ubuntu
[09:49] <UniLab> if you have 2 partitions, can you choose that which partition will be shrinked? Cause my C: is already small enough
[09:49] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: So for files you need on both OSs, save them on the Windows partition
[09:50] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: That may be an issue. You may need to use gparted
[09:50] <UniLab> or "Something Else" ?
[09:51] <Besogon> Anyone who know how to write rules for deb package??? I have a problem with GNU Make. I marked build target as phony.. but it didn't help.. wtf?http://pastebin.com/Hp4hG3Wt
[09:51] <Besogon> I'm talking about build target
[09:51] <Bl4cklisted> Besogon: Sry I dont know much about that
[09:52] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: "Something else" would be something similar to gparted when youd be able to modify the partitions yourself
[09:52] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: where youd*
[09:52] <Besogon> oh.. my fault
[09:52] <UniLab> bl4ck, so I can do it like this > http://bit.ly/U7PYuq
[09:52] <Bl4cklisted> Besogon: this is my first time in here lol
[09:53] <UniLab> there is 1st, 2nd and 3rd image
[09:54] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: If youre still on that page, the three images under "Step 9"
[09:54] <UniLab> yes. that is what the bit.ly links to
[09:54] <UniLab> an imgur album with these 3 pictures
[09:55] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: The "NTFS" type will be your Windows partition
[09:55] <UniLab> i just wanted to make the link short and not to post 3 long links
[09:55] <UniLab> I know
[09:55] <UniLab> why is windows 8 such a b!tch ?!
[09:55] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: You should be able to shrink and resize partitions from there
[09:55] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Because its Windows
[09:56] <UniLab> tbh, I always used linux just in VMware and all the virt. SW but I am still amazed by it and want to have it non-virtually
[09:56] <Ben64> it works much better running for real
[09:56] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Otherwise, you may need to just use a Ubuntu LiveCD with gparted and shrink and resize partitions from there - I dont remember if its in there by default since I havent used ubuntu in a year or so
[09:57] <asterisk-Tester> Hi, i have a Lenovo y570 that I installed Ubuntu 12 64 bit, all was working ok but suddenly now the battery cant charge more than 48%, any idea ?
[09:57] <Evil_Eric> weeee i figured out how to lock a package
[09:57] <UniLab> bl4ck, I will just shrink my D partition in Windows and then I'll boot into the LiveCD and divide it into Swap and Ubuntu
[09:58] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Are you on a laptop?
[09:58] <UniLab> yes
[09:58] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Ah now its making more sense
[09:59] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Okay so your C: is likely your manufacturers reset and your D: is Windoze
[09:59] <antonio_> Aloha folks...
[09:59] <Bl4cklisted> Hello
[09:59] <UniLab> nonono, my C: is Windoze and D: is just all personal data
[09:59] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Ah
[09:59] <antonio_> For some reason I cannot play an audio cd...ubuntu is viewing it as a blank cd
[10:00] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: How large are each?
[10:00] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: What audio software do you have installed?
[10:00] <antonio_> bl4cklisted: I have a few audio editing programs
[10:00] <watussi> hello
[10:00] <UniLab> C is 50 nad D is 395
[10:01] <UniLab> *and
[10:01] <watussi> do you know a regex-coach's equivalent for ubuntu ?
[10:01] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Yikes - Id take some from D: if possible
[10:01] <antonio_> bl4cklisted: I don't see how audio software will prevent the cdrom from loading audio...or even showing that its a blank cd
[10:02] <UniLab> yeah, I used to have dualboot 7 and 8 , 8 was running on a now non-existing G: which was a new 50GB partition created from D
[10:02] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: You may need to try downloading a program that plays audio like Audacious or Brasero and it may downlad the required deps along with it
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> watussi  http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Text-Editing-Processing/Others/The-Regex-Coach-9029.shtml
[10:03] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: but come to think of it, I cant remember the last time Ive played a CD in Ubuntu
[10:03] <watussi> Mongolski: thank you ! did you try it ?
[10:04] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: If youre really uncomfortable, the Disk Manager in windows should be able to partiton for you, but it will not be able to set up the required filesystem
[10:04] <dr_willis> the software could be looking for the device at /dev/cdrom but /dev/cdrom is actually a link to the real device.. sometimes that link is incorrect
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> watussi  guess it's me you're addressing and no, i haven't
[10:04] <UniLab> I know! I said that I will just shrink it in Windows but then I'll divide it into swap and ubuntu system in LiveCD
[10:04] <beltxa1> Buenos dias
[10:04] <beltxa1> alguien puede ayudarme please¿
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> !es
[10:05] <dr_willis> $ ls -l /dev/cd*
[10:05] <dr_willis> shows i have a /dev/cdrom1 here.. but not a /dev/cdrom   which is a little weird.
[10:05] <antonio_> this is annoying
[10:06] <watussi> MonkeyDust: yes, sorry for mistake ^^
[10:06] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: Are you able to find the cd in nautilus at least?
[10:06] <antonio_> yeah
[10:07] <antonio_> its showing up as a blank disc...and its not
[10:07] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: any files in it or does it appear empty?
[10:07] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: I see
[10:09] <dr_willis> antonio_:  this is an Audio/Music cd? You dont mount those, or see files on them normally. Unless you are using some tool/plugin for the file managers that sort of uses a virtual filesystem on them to show the music as mp3 or other data
[10:09] <antonio_> dr_willis: its showing the cd as totally blank
[10:10] <dr_willis> but is it an AUDIO cd?
[10:10] <antonio_> yes
[10:10] <bekks> You cant mount an audio CD.
[10:10] <dr_willis> you DONT mount those. you normally will see them as blank because its not got a normal filesystem on it.
[10:10] <walex> dr_willis: there is actually 'cdfs' that allows mounting and auto-ripping audio CDs, but it always been little used
[10:11] <dr_willis> walex:  yea. theres some other tools like that ive seen for KDE and I think one for nautilus also
[10:11] <walex> antonio_: the problem with audio CDs is that they can be ripped in many different ways, and they are not written in data made, but in a different mode.
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> antonio_  you need ext4 or ntfs or so on the cd, if you want to mount it - an audio cd does not have that
[10:12] <walex> antonio_: so they cannot be read like data CDs, they have to be auto-ripped.
[10:12] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: Try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[10:13] <xnter> hunnybunny
[10:13] <walex> MonkeyDust: it is not the filesystem/not filesystem issue, audio CDs have a structure that can be interpreted as a filesystem if one wants. It is that they are not written in data mode, but in audio mode.
[10:13] <HunnyBunny> yes xnter?
[10:13] <walex> and there are many different ways to read audio mode, so CD ripping programs differ very much on that, and embedding a specific ripping method in a filesystem driver in the kernel is a bad idea.
[10:14] <antonio_> monkeydust: I can't even listen to an audio cd on my computer then?
[10:14] <Bl4cklisted> antonio_: Try installing Banshee
[10:14] <bekks> antonio_: You can listen to an audio CD, but you cannot mount it.
[10:14] <HunnyBunny> xnter what is it?
[10:14] <dr_willis> antonio_:  determine what device the thing is /dev/sr0 most likely, and you just tell the player to play /dev/sr0 . Its possible the apps are using /dev/cdrom which MAY BE WRONG.
[10:15] <bekks> HunnyBunny: He is gone already.
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> antonio_  audacious is a nice audioplayer
[10:15] <HunnyBunny> okay weird... since i dont know him and i never ever talked here x)
[10:15] <Bl4cklisted> MonkeyDust: Yeah probably my fave
[10:15] <u1204> Hi, how to upgrade kernel via terminal? when I enter 'sudo apt-get upgrade' the new kernel does not appear among other packages, but when I check graphical Update Manager the new kernel is there.
[10:16] <walex> antonio_: you can listen to it via your computer, but in its native audio mode that happens in analogue way.
[10:16] <antonio_> what?
[10:16] <hanning> hi
[10:16] <bekks> u1204: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:16] <kareti> list
[10:16] <walex> antonio_: that is, you *play* the audio CD, the CD drive decodes the tracks and emits sounds signals on its analogue outputs.
[10:16] <bekks> walex: CD audio is digital, btw.
[10:16] <antonio_> walex: its not even doing that
[10:17] <u1204> but will it upgrade the whole system from 12.04 to 12.10?
[10:17] <bekks> u1204: No.
[10:17] <u1204> ok, I'll try, thanks
[10:17] <hanning> is anyone able to tell me how to configure pulseaudio to use spdif properly? it is working fine with ALSA
[10:17] <walex> antonio_: usually each CD drive has one analogue output socket on the front, for plugging in headphone, and an analogue output on the back for putting in a cable leading to your sound card.
[10:17] <bekks> walex: Thats the _output_. CD audio still is digital. :)
[10:18] <kareti> QUESTION: is there any text based User interface like KDE? That will run only on tty?
[10:18] <walex> antonio_: when you tell the CD drive to play the CD, if the CD drive is connected to your soundcard, you need to enable the "CD-in" channel of your soundcard. Or else plug in headphones in the front docket.
[10:19] <antonio_> walex: when I put the cd-in it doesn't play any kind of music...it shows it as a totally blank cd
[10:19] <walex> antonio_: alternatively, you can use a computer-based CD player that rips the track from the CD and puts them on disk and then plays those files.
[10:19] <bekks> kareti: The usual shell is what you are looking for then.
[10:19] <jalil> hey ya, insects, hehe...
[10:19] <walex> antonio_: you are not using a CD-drive player.
[10:19] <dr_willis> antonio_:  you dont use the file manager to access the cd.. it WILL be blank... thats normal..
[10:20] <dr_willis> vlc /dev/sr0     (i think) should start playing the thing
[10:21] <walex> antonio_: perhaps this needs saying many times: CD disks can come in several different and incompatible formats, and CD-audio format is incompatible with CD-data format, and you cannot use the tools used to access CD-data disks for CD-audio disks.
[10:21] <kareti> bekks: I wish there would be a KDE like environment that is just based on text.  like programs running on ncurses.  i woud like to have every application to be on shell.. Just an idea. is there any such?
[10:21] <walex> kareti: TWIN.
[10:21] <bekks> kareti: Just use "screen", which offers you the ability to open as much shells as you want.
[10:22] <blackshirt> kareti, maybe you want develope de likes them :d
[10:22] <walex> antonio_: the tools for CD-audio disks allow you to do one of two things: play tracks via the CD-drive itself, not the computer it is attached to, or rip the tracks to a file on the computer.
[10:22] <jj99> i'm able to start once a freshly installed ubuntu 12.10
[10:22] <jj99> any ideas?
[10:23] <bekks> jj99: Just remove the CD, and reboot.
[10:23] <jj99> ehm?
[10:24] <jj99> anyways i did remove the cd :D
[10:24] <bingo_> hi, i have a pc where i tried to install nouveau driver after that i tried to install nvidia driver without be succesful... now when i turn on the pc i get this screen http://tinypic.com/r/2ik4fgj/6   anyone can help me please?? :)
[10:24] <bekks> jj99: You asked how to boot your computer after installing it.
[10:25] <jalil> hey, guys are there any community apps development i can join, with little programming experience?
[10:26] <jj99> bekks nah, i asked if anyone has an idea why i can start a freshly installed 12.10 once
[10:26] <nowayride> bingo_ you have two DM?
[10:26] <nowayride> jj99 what do you mean start it once
[10:27] <UniLab> bekks, can I dualboot Ubuntu and Windows 8 like this : Windows 8 already installed and a bit of unallocated space prepared, boot livecd of ubuntu, choose "something else", divide unallocated space into swap and partition for ubuntu and the install?
[10:27] <blackshirt> jalil, maybe you need more spesific languages, there are #pyhton oe ##c
[10:27] <blackshirt> or
[10:27] <UniLab> *and then install
[10:27] <bekks> UniLab: Sure, why not?
[10:27] <jalil> blackshirt: but do they develop for ubuntu specifically?
[10:28] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: Sounds about right
[10:28] <UniLab> ok, I am just kinda afraid cause Windows 8 brought the amazing crappy bootloader that half of time isn't detected by grub >.>
[10:28] <bekks> jalil: Using a programming language, it doesnt matter whom you are developing for.
[10:28] <blackshirt> jalil, maybe you need more spesific languages, there are #pyhton oe ##c
[10:28] <Evil_Eric> sorry working out kinks
[10:29] <jalil> bekks: really? how about old billy's vb?
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> jalil  vb in linux?
[10:29] <UniLab> microsoft is really cheap nowadays >.> they even put non-antialiased font in their setup process, it looks pixely like setup of DOS...
[10:29] <jalil> bekks: or delphi? I doubt that...
[10:29] <dr_willis> There was Delphi for Linux at one time
[10:29] <blackshirt> jalil, use gambas...they mimics vb'
[10:29] <Sliker> ahem, aliased corners on 12.10.
[10:30] <Sliker> makes me sad.
[10:30] <antonio_> this is the output I get when I run vlc  /dev/sr0  http://pastebin.com/VxLs3tnS
[10:30] <bekks> jalil: delphi is dead and buried, besides the fact that Delphi for Linux existed.
[10:30] <UniLab> sliker, better to have corners than whole UI...
[10:30] <dr_willis> I rember when Delphi for Linux was big news :) egads i am old.
[10:30] <Sliker> tru dat
[10:30] <jalil> MonkeyDust: yeah, ridiculous right?
[10:31] <bekks> jalil: So which programming language are you interested in, besides writing M$ Office macros?
[10:32] <UniLab> fu** off M$, the Windows 8 in VM is sitting @ the Almost Ready screen for 20 minutes...
[10:32] <UniLab> jeez, I need it just for testing purposes...
[10:32] <nv> well thats just not right
[10:32] <nv> Win8 is quick to boot
[10:32] <Bl4cklisted> bekks: Probably pascal
[10:32] <jalil> bekks: the point wasn't which language I'd like to use... the point was which app development teams to join...
[10:32] <Bl4cklisted> nv: hes installing it
[10:32] <dr_willis> bekks:  mIRC scripting. ;)
[10:33] <nv> Almost Ready screen doesnt take 20 minute
[10:34] <UniLab> nv, as soon as I did b!tch about how long does it take, it was on the start screen
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> jalil  some 30 people in #ubuntu-app-devel -- you may have to register first
[10:34] <antonio_> dr_willis: this is the output I get when I run vlc  /dev/sr0  http://pastebin.com/VxLs3tnS
[10:35] <vmouse> hi
[10:35] <antonio_> also when I run the command sudo lshw -C disk I get the following output http://pastebin.com/BWbHKZQp
[10:35] <bekks> jalil: Well, your choice of the team strongly depends on what you want to develop, and on which language do you want to use.
[10:36] <bekks> jalil: So it heavily matters.
[10:37] <jalil> bekks: well, I agree...
[10:37] <dr_willis> antonio_:  try some other media players. have them try to play /dev/sr0 directly
[10:37] <jj99> anyone tried running android emulator or other java dev tools in an ubuntu vm?
[10:37] <jj99> that an viable option?
[10:38] <ping___> hy
[10:38] <lepotan> hi to all any one has experience with using openvpn
[10:38] <lepotan> evry time i connect with openvpn to server I can not access my ssh
[10:38] <lepotan> service on ubuntu
[10:39] <oldman> Does ubuntu 12.10 support wireless nic BCM94312?. If it does not where do I get the driver .?
[10:39] <walex> antonio_: try 'sudo apt-get install cdtool; cdinfo; cdplay'
[10:39] <bekks> oldman: BCM94312 or BCM4312?
[10:40] <oldman> bekks. Itis probably BCM 4312. AS listed in lspci.
[10:40] <joey_> hello guys, do somebody ever tried to repair windows from linux?
[10:40] <dr_willis> joey_:  depending on whats broke.. its doable
[10:41] <Bl4cklisted> joey_: All the time
[10:41] <joey_> well i had tried a restauration from windows, being in dual boot with linux
[10:41] <bekks> !wifi > oldman
[10:41] <antonio_> walex: its returning with no_disc
[10:41] <Bl4cklisted> joey_: but as dr_willis has said, it depends on what the problem is
[10:41] <joey_> but since then, windows is not bootable anymore
[10:41] <Bl4cklisted> joey_: Youll need to repair grub
[10:42] <userz1> cant get Lubuntu or Kubuntu to auto internet connect...card is  Realtek RTL8201N..any suggestions?
[10:42] <oldman> bekks: Thanks
[10:42] <dr_willis> joey_:  that 'system rescue' live cd may be handy. or #windows may suggest other tools to try
[10:42] <joey_> i installed linux again to obtain a new clean version of grub
[10:42] <Bl4cklisted> joey_:  Ive used this a few times without any problems https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[10:42] <bekks> joey_: It is not necessary to reinstall the whole OS to accomplish that.
[10:43] <walex> antonio_: try again with 'cdinfo -d /dev/cdrom'
[10:43] <joey_> well grub is ok to launch ubuntu
[10:43] <joey_> but my windows need a repair,
[10:43] <antonio_> walex: no_disc
[10:43] <walex> antonio_: or better 'sudo cdinfo -d /dev/cdrom' just in case
[10:43] <joey_> and i have no disc
[10:43] <bekks> joey_: But it is not necessary to reinstall Ubuntu for reinstalling grub.
[10:43] <bekks> joey_: Well, without having a disc, there is no way.
[10:43] <Bl4cklisted> joey_: It checks for other OSs during repair and adds them to grub
[10:44] <joey_> is it possible to find something to burn?
[10:44] <dr_willis> joey_:  there are legal ways to get a win7 iso/recovery cd. i recall some links to such sources on lifehacker a few months back
[10:44] <bekks> joey_: Thats illegal, basically.
[10:44] <walex> antonio_: also 'sudo cdinfo -d /dev/sr0' 'sudo cdinfo -d /dev/sr0'
[10:44] <joey_> lol
[10:44] <dr_willis>  #windows may know specifics.. it was a minimal windows iso from MS that was used for repairing. not reinstalling
[10:44] <joey_> illegal or legal =p
[10:44] <bekks> joey_: It does matter.
[10:44] <antonio_> walex: cdinfo: can't open cdrom (/dev/sr): No such file or directory
[10:44] <dr_willis> it was said to be LEGAL from what i recall. it was a tool/iso from MS
[10:45] <bekks> antonio_: /dev/sr0 instead of /dev/sr
[10:45] <joey_> so its foundable on ms website
[10:45] <walex> antonio_: also 'sudo cdinfo -d /dev/sr0' 'sudo cdinfo -d /dev/scd0'
[10:45] <Evil_Eric> blahhh im seriously considering going back to 12.04
[10:45] <mando_> I have a question. is ubuntu 12.04 still supported. I was just asked for a partial upgrade and I accepted at first but then it crashed when I had a program installing in sudo. So began updates again and the partial upgrade was gone. Only updates. So I'm wandering what the hell that is about
[10:45] <dr_willis> joey_:  i found mention of it on the lifehacker web site. the #windows channel should know more
[10:45] <antonio_> walex: no_disc
[10:45] <bekks> mando_: Yes, 12.04 is still supported.
[10:45] <walex> antonio_: if all of these fail, your audio CD is not readable or is indeed missing.
[10:45] <bazhang> mando_, for five years, so yes
[10:46] <joey_> ow okk (sorry first hour on irc)
[10:46] <antonio_> walex: its definitely readable...its been played earlier on an actual cd player
[10:46] <joey_> well thanks all i try to ask on their channel
[10:46] <mando_> thank god for that. But why the hell was I asked for a partial upgrade then dissappeared?
[10:46] <walex> antonio_: it may readable only on a CD player, there are copy protection schemes that achieve that.
[10:47] <walex> antonio_: try again with 'cdplay' instead of 'cdinfo', just in case
[10:47] <antonio_> no_disc
[10:47] <walex> antonio_: also check the light on the CD drive door, if it cannot read a disk there is usually a distinctive flashing pattern.
[10:48] <walex> antonio_: or try 'sudo cdeject -d /dev/cdrom' and then inserting it again.
[10:48] <antonio_> walex: it flashes when I first put the cd in...
[10:48] <UniLab> guys, is 1GB partition enough as swap for ubuntu
[10:48] <antonio_> that ejects it
[10:48] <OerHeks> UniLab, enough for swap, maybe not enough for hybernate/sleep
[10:49] <UniLab> what size is recommended?
[10:49] <OerHeks> UniLab, let the installer calculate.
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> UniLab  about your RAM size, preferrably a bit more
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> or what OerHeks says
[10:49] <UniLab> ?
[10:49] <xrs1> they want you to use 50% more than how much RAM you have
[10:49] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust +1 indeed more for hybernate/sleep
[10:50] <mando_> UniLab, the size of whatever ram you are using . like  monkeydust said
[10:50] <UniLab> I need to do "Something Else" while installing so I need a recommended size
[10:50] <plast1k> UniLab, 2X or 1X ur RAM should do
[10:50] <xrs1> i dont use swap at all unless the comp has less than 2 gigs RAM
[10:50] <UniLab> my RAM is 4GB, can I give it 5GB?
[10:50] <mando_> ok I'm restarting my comp. May or may not com back debating if unity is good for my nephews desktop or I go with linux mint mate
[10:50] <mando_> chow
[10:50] <xrs1> yeah
[10:50] <cnf> that's silly
[10:51] <cnf> at least set up a swap file
[10:51] <cnf> if you don't want to waste a partition
[10:51] <antonio_> walex: anything else?
[10:51] <xrs1> ?
[10:51] <xrs1> waste a partition?
[10:51] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: For swap, usually 2GB is enough
[10:51] <UniLab> so what should I do?
[10:51] <walex> antonio_: i am trying it here and 'cdplay' etc. works... But no sound output
[10:51] <nrdb> hi... I have a network problem ... I a network on 10.0.0.0/24 and a VPN on 10.7.0.0/24 ... the VM handling the creation of the VPN is working correctly and can ping the VPN client ... how do arrange for any VPN traffic on the 10.0.0.0/24 network to be put on the VPN network?
[10:51] <walex> antonio_: probably because of pulseaudio, so looking at it.
[10:52] <xrs1> creat a static route?
[10:52] <UniLab> ok, I have 4GB of RAM, if that is important
[10:52] <marvindoppelt> just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a new Lenovo 581.  Am unable to setup LAN and WLAN and am suspecting it's a case of drivers.  LAN is Atheros AR8161/8165 and WLAN is Broadcom 802.11n.  Tried google but to no avail.  Any help herein?
[10:52] <UniLab> right now I have 60GB of unallocated space, my laptop has 4GB of RAM, how much for swap?
[10:52] <UniLab> 2GB?
[10:52] <dr_willis> UniLab:  5gb should be plenty
[10:52] <cnf> xrs1: some people don't want to create a separate partition for swap
[10:53] <cnf> so you can just use a file on your root partition
[10:53] <Bl4cklisted> marvindoppelt: try DLing those device drivers on a different machine onto a usb and install them that way
[10:53] <dr_willis> 2 gb will be plenty. but wont let you do that hibernate/suspend stuff. (whichi never use anyway)
[10:53] <xrs1> thats what i was saying. i dont have swap at all
[10:53] <walex> antonio_: I think laptop CD drives no longer have analog outputs...
[10:53] <UniLab> well, I do use hibernate/sleep, so 5GB of swap?
[10:53] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: That is plenty
[10:53] <dr_willis> UniLab:  5gb then would be a good idea.. of course you are assuming that hibernate/sleep will work. ;)
[10:54] <walex> antonio_: and in any case my laptop's audio card has no analog input other than the microphone, so no input from the cd drive.
[10:54] <Bl4cklisted> It doesnt always lol
[10:54] <cnf> UniLab: you could also try swaps or something :P
[10:54] <xrs1> suspend usually isnt an issue. hibernate is retarded
[10:54] <OerHeks> cnf no, swap partition is a different partition type
[10:54] <Bl4cklisted> ^
[10:54] <UniLab> well, 90% of time I just sleep/hibernate instead of shutdown
[10:54] <cnf> OerHeks: yes… so?
[10:54] <OerHeks> cnf, so .. no
[10:54] <cnf> UniLab: swapd, not swaps
[10:54] <cnf> OerHeks: no what?
[10:54] <antonio_> this is super frustrating
[10:54] <dr_willis> UniLab:  some times the sleep stuff dosent work on linux - it depends on the hardware a lot.
[10:55] <UniLab> so 5GB of swap or 2GB of swap or what?! everybody says something else
[10:55] <walex> UniLab: ideally 5
[10:55] <OerHeks> cnf, don't try to be smart, just corrected your mistake.
[10:55] <dr_willis> UniLab:  we clearly said.. 2gb  = no sleep.. 5gb for sleep.. you said you wanted sleep....
[10:55] <cnf> OerHeks: you didn't correct anything
[10:55] <Bl4cklisted> UniLab: 2GB is what is ually used, 5GB is enough if youre looking to suspend and hibernate
[10:55] <cnf> OerHeks: you are being vague
[10:56] <cnf> OerHeks: be specific, or be quiet
[10:56] <dr_willis> yea hibernate.. ;) not sleep. ;P
[10:56] <UniLab> ok
[10:56] <xrs1> the official answer is 50% more than how much RAM is in the box. that makes it 6GB. that is overkill. 5GB will suffice without wasting space
[10:56] <dr_willis> too many variations on the  term/idea/methods.
[10:56] <antonio_> thanks folks...night
[10:57] <nowayride> http://techreport.com/r.x/gigabyte-iram/card.jpg and make the whole thing a moot point :P
[10:57] <OerHeks> cnf then do not give wrong information, that is all, read back, my sentence is clear: swap has a different partitiontype.
[10:58] <cnf> OerHeks: your answer isn't clear at all
[10:58] <cnf> OerHeks: i know it has a different partition type, so bloody what?
[10:58] <xrs1> lol thats what SSDs looked like back in the day. DONT YOU DARE TRIP OVER THAT POWER CORD!
[10:58] <cnf> OerHeks: how does that matter _at all_ to what i said?
[10:59] <cnf> xrs1: thing in the back is a battery pack
[10:59] <nowayride> I like PERC 6e cause it has a RAM slot
[11:04] <mando_> ok I ran into a few problems. My nephews computer is an older dell with a single pentium 4 with a 1 gig of ram and a 256 mbs nvidia card. I honestly thought it could take unity but I am experiencing all sorts of lag and I can't do snap windows. Would mints mate be a better choice for this pc. Hell lxde is laggy running ubuntu :(
[11:04] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Yikes - may consider running a lighter OS
[11:04] <joey_> mmh how to find a french channel?
[11:05] <fego> joey_: /msg alis list *-fr*
[11:05] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Though it may be a vid driver issue
[11:05] <mando_> Bl4cklisted, mint seems like a better choice
[11:05] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: I like mint a lot myself - currently on Arch
[11:05] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Ubuntu has gotten rather bloated as of late
[11:06] <marvindoppelt> Bl4cklisted, lemme give it a try and may you'll earn yourself a beer
[11:06] <dr_willis> lxde running ubuntu? You mean unity on lxde? or the lxde desktop is laggy?
[11:06] <cnf> OerHeks: so next time, either have something specific to say, or just stay quiet
[11:06] <bazhang> cnf, thats enough
[11:06] <bazhang> Bl4cklisted, lets stay on topic with Ubuntu support only
[11:07] <mando_> Bl4cklisted, thank you for pointing that out. Thats sad becuase my nephew really like the unity bar.
[11:07] <joey_> thank feo
[11:07] <bazhang> mando_, for help with MINT go to mintsupport
[11:07] <OerHeks> !attitude | snf
[11:07] <Bl4cklisted> marvindoppelt: Its certainly unusual that both your cards are not recognized - its usually one or the other
[11:07] <cnf> bazhang: hey, i only ask people to be specific if they tell me i am giving out wrong information
[11:07] <cnf> bazhang: i do not thing this is unfair
[11:07] <mando_> bazhang, I got what I needed. thank you
[11:07] <bazhang> cnf, move on
[11:07] <OerHeks> or stfu cnf, you pass the line.
[11:07] <bazhang> OerHeks, let it go
[11:07] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Have you installed the nvidia restricted drivers?
[11:08] <mando_> Bl4cklisted, yes I did. No dice
[11:08] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Ah bummer
[11:08] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: The is strange - 256mb card is rather good
[11:08] <mando_> Bl4cklisted, hey question. is ubuntu unity more bloated then kde? I currently have that but I have been admiring unity
[11:09] <Guest71085> nope
[11:09] <bazhang> mando_, thats entirely opinion
[11:09] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Cant say. Didnt like unity enough to play around with it
[11:09] <bazhang> !ot | mando_
[11:09] <xrs1> first / second gen P4 with 1GB DDR1 and 32MB GeForce256 is WAY more than enough. i have no problems with XFCE on a Duron 900 w/ 640 MB RAM
[11:09] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Its also dependant on what effects youve got turned on
[11:10] <xrs1> there is a bigger issue at hand here unless you expected it to run like a ferrari
[11:10] <walex> xrs1: that is a bit optimistic if you have many windows/tabs on a web browser
[11:10] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: XFCE with a dock may end up running faster than Unity
[11:10] <mando_> Bl4cklisted, I know right? but what I think it is the single processor. I think unity would demand something newwer. I dunno
[11:11] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Yeah, you are on a P4 . . . and only 1 GB of RAM
[11:11] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Those may be your bottleneck
[11:11] <frustro> ubuntu 10.10, I deleted my bottom panel.  I added it back, but the windows dont minimize to it.  ideas on how to get that back?
[11:11] <xrs1> i ran unity on my duron 900 w/ FX5200 and it ran okay. XFCE runs better
[11:11] <Bl4cklisted> frustro: rightclick and add to panel
[11:12] <mando_> Bl4cklisted, yep. I guess I'll go lower in os. Whatever will run his minecraft gamer better lol
[11:12] <Bl4cklisted> frustro: search for Window Selector
[11:12] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Lol
[11:12] <Evil_Eric> hahaha my frame rate for glxgears has got to be a lie!!!!
[11:12] <frustro> the add to panel is not there.  window selector?
[11:12] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: Minecraft can be rather demanding, do a light DE may be better
[11:12] <Bl4cklisted> mando_: so*
[11:13] <mando_> Bl4cklisted, I will. thank you for the help
[11:14] <Bl4cklisted> frustro: Odd. Rightclicking on panel should show "Add to Panel"
[11:15] <frustro> oh, it's like a widget on the bar.
[11:15] <frustro> got it, thank you.
[11:15] <Bl4cklisted> frustro: No prob
[11:17] <Bl4cklisted> exit
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> whats the command to completly remove zeitgeist (purge)?
[11:21] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, you will lose unity functionality , just stop the service
[11:21] <Nibinaear> Hi. How do you get Notepad++ on Ubuntu? It seems like the perfect match for Linux but it's not available.
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks:it worked on previous ubuntu for me, will unity crash on 12.10?
[11:22] <bekks> Nibinaear: Thats because Notepad++ is not a linux program.
[11:22] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, yes, dsah search function get corrupted :(
[11:22] <OerHeks> c/dash
[11:23] <diverdude> cat /proc/filesystems  gives me this list: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1041381558  I dont see fat or ntfs anywhere. Does that mean i cannot read FAT or NTFS drives?
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks:ok tnx for letting me know
[11:23] <bekks> diverdude: No. NTFS is mounted using a fuse module.
[11:24] <diverdude> bekks: i see... so how can i know if i can mount NTFS?
[11:24] <diverdude> NTFS
[11:25] <bekks> diverdude: You can see fuse listed in /proc/filesystems.
[11:26] <diverdude> bekks: ahh ok...and fuse can mount both FAT32 and NTFS?
[11:26] <bazhang> diverdude, this is debian?
[11:26] <diverdude> bazhang: yeah
[11:26] <bekks> diverdude: Since when?
[11:27] <bazhang> diverdude, then ask for support in #debian
[11:28] <beatrice> ! ciao
[11:28] <beatrice> !list
[11:29] <beatrice> !zoodiaco
[11:31] <himcesjf> Hi! I'm not able to get x11vnc working after recent update. I've reconfigured dm for kdm over lightdm and here are the working, failed attempts - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1367286/ . What am I missing in the command?
[11:36] <skcin7> I'm looking to get a new laptop soon. Is there anything I should look out for to make sure I get one that is optimized for Ubuntu?
[11:37] <wripimp> anyone on that good with networking
[11:37] <mortal> skcin7: get a thinkpad
[11:37] <nowayride> What's up?
[11:37] <OerHeks> skcin7, loot @ http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ 2nd row
[11:38] <OerHeks> c/look
[11:38] <skcin7> Tell me about the thinkpad, mortal.
[11:38] <bekks> wripimp: Why?
[11:38] <himcesjf> !laptop
[11:39] <ix_> how do I update the bios if I only have Ubuntu?
[11:39] <OerHeks> oh thanks himcesjf i didn't know that factoid
[11:39] <ix_> I see a .bio file and it says something about a blank cd
[11:40] <ix_> does that bio file work with dd?
[11:40] <graingert> ix_: depends on the mother board
[11:40] <ix_> graingert, it's an intel d510mo
[11:40] <graingert> ix_: contact your mother board manufacturer
[11:40] <m000gle> Hi.  I have gPodder installed on Ubuntu 12.04 and on Windows 8 ... I understand that its possible to sync subscriptions (using either a gpodder.net login or OPML file).  However, is there any way to synchronize the downloaded episodes, to avoid being forced to re-download them on each OS?
[11:40] <ix_> graingert, I already did
[11:40] <skcin7> Lenovo Thinkpad… looks sweet.
[11:44] <skcin7> I had a Dell and a HP in the past and although they were great at first, they began to have many issues about after a year of ownership. Do Lenovo laptop machines have a reputation for reliability?
[11:45] <reami> yes
[11:45] <skcin7> Sweet
[11:45] <skcin7> Anyone care to share the machine they personally have and how happy they are so far with it?
[11:46] <bazhang> !poll | skcin7
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> m000gle  there are things like dropbox
[11:46] <bazhang> skcin7, this is the wrong place for that
[11:47] <bazhang> skcin7, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:47] <skcin7> I will do that, bazhang.
[11:48] <m000gle> MonkeyDust: The gPodder Downloads folder is already symlinked to a shared NTFS storage partition.  So, the episode files are already accessible to both OS's.  The issue is making each OS's install of gPodder recognize downloads completed using the other.
[12:01] <abailarri> Hi all, I have filezilla in ubuntu 12.04, but it does not work, is unable to connect to any server
[12:03] <bekks> abailarri: So whats the error message then - here, filezilla works perfectly.
[12:05] <abailarri> bekks, thi is the error:
[12:05] <abailarri> Connection timeout exceeded
[12:05] <abailarri> Error: Could not connect to server
[12:05] <Abbas51214> hi every one
[12:05] <wirdo> is ubuntu a computer
[12:05] <bekks> abailarri: An you are specifying an FTP server?
[12:06] <bekks> wirdo: No. Ubuntu is an operating system based on Linux.
[12:06] <wirdo> wow
[12:06] <Shadowix> Ubuntu is an operating system based on debian
[12:06] <Abbas51214> any one from pakistan
[12:08] <joerack> Hello, does anybody know what this error is   :"configure: error: bigendian is not supported... stopping"
[12:10] <himcesjf> Hi! I'm not able to get x11vnc working after recent update. I've reconfigured dm for kdm over lightdm and here are the working, failed attempts - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1367286/ . What am I missing in the command?
[12:10] <abailarri> bekks, yes, but do not connect to any server
[12:10] <bekks> abailarri: Do you have an example server?
[12:11] <abailarri> bekks, but are private!
[12:11] <Viliny> hello!
[12:11] <bekks> abailarri: Maybe ther do not run on the standard ports.
[12:11] <Viliny> setting up proftpd on a ubuntu server here, getting the problem that it cannot start in either standalone or inetd (we set it to inetd)
[12:12] <Viliny> can't find any logs or anything to see what the problem is, anyone know how to?
[12:12] <pingvin06> хай всем
[12:12] <pingvin06> есть живые?
[12:12] <bekks> !ru | pingvin06
[12:13] <joerack> Hello, does anybody know what this error is   :"configure: error: bigendian is not supported... stopping"    plsease help
[12:13] <pingvin06> Кто может подсказать нормально работающий шейпер для ubuntu желатьльно GUL/WEB интерфейсом для мониторинга с винды
[12:14] <abailarri> bekks, Before, it connected well to these servers
[12:15] <abailarri> bekks, The problem appeared yesterday. Began to cease to connect yesterday
[12:15] <bekks> abailarri: Did you ensure you are using the correct ports?
[12:15] <UniLab> o fudge
[12:15] <UniLab> I have a problem
[12:15] <abailarri> bekks, yes
[12:16] <abailarri> bekks, If I try it with Windows, it works perfectly with the same data connection.
[12:16] <bekks> abailarri: Do you even have a working networking connection using Ubuntu?
[12:17] <abailarri> bekks, yes
[12:23] <Sizur> Q: why 64-bit is still not recomended?  I cannot have my main desktop not be recommended. should i install again opensuse or what?
[12:23] <Sizur> 32-bit these days is preflood tech
[12:23] <CorvusCorax> Sizur, theres a forum thread about that
[12:24] <Sizur> 2010\
[12:24] <Sizur> that's a bit old
[12:24] <CorvusCorax> apparently the "recommended" means if you are a stupid user who doesnt even know whether he has a 32 or 64 bit system, its recommended to get 32bit because it would always work
[12:24] <gordonjcp> yup
[12:24] <gordonjcp> Sizur: 32-bit if you don't care, 64-bit if you know what you are doing
[12:25] <Sizur> so there are no showstoppers with 64?
[12:25] <gordonjcp> Sizur: it stops people coming in here moaning their faces off because Skype doesn't work properly
[12:25] <Sizur> lol
[12:25] <CorvusCorax> 64 bit is only for "advanced" users, where advanced + knows how many bits their CPU works with
[12:25] <CorvusCorax> ;)
[12:25] <Jordan_U> Sizur: Many (including most people you'll find here) disagree with that label on the website, and I'll note that there is a difference between having the 32 bit be recommended, and saying that 64 bit is "not recommended" (at least as most people understand the phrase "not recommended").
[12:25] <xrfang> hi, the "Startup Application Manager" is missing in 12.10, how to get it back?
[12:26] <abailarri> bekks, You know that it is?
[12:26] <gordonjcp> Sizur: anyway, unless you're using something that doesn't work well in 64-bit (generally proprietary software like Skype) then just use 64
[12:26] <CorvusCorax> skype works in 64bit
[12:26] <bekks> abailarri: I know what?
[12:26] <gordonjcp> it does *now*
[12:26] <CorvusCorax> with the ubuntu package
[12:26] <gordonjcp> but people still moan about it
[12:27] <midhuno> hi i bought a new acer aspire one d270 netbook but i can't install ubuntu 12.10 on it.........when will be it possible to install ubuntu onit with full driver support?? sorry for bad english and thanks in advance pls help me
[12:27] <Sizur> alrighty, how about latest kde? are any of you running it and what issues you have with ubuntus integration with it if any?
[12:27] <CorvusCorax> midhuno: try installing with the "network installaion" mini iso
[12:27] <bekks> midhuno: Whats the detailed problem?
[12:27] <bekks> midhuno: "cant install" is just too generic.
[12:27] <abailarri> bekks, my problem with Filezilla
[12:27] <CorvusCorax> that uses text mode only, so it will work on almost any hardware, and you can later use recovery mode to get your drivers working
[12:28] <CorvusCorax> its what I just did with my new Samsung laptop
[12:28] <midhuno> bekks : blank screen after booting...... but 12.04 runs well except 3d support
[12:28] <CorvusCorax> the install DVD would just wreze when the graphic driver loaded. I had to install in text mode and then manually install the latest proprietary catalyst drivers (the beta ones) to get it to run X
[12:28] <bekks> abailarri: I have no further idea, since filezilla is working fine here, and we've stepped through the obvious misconfigurations.
[12:29] <CorvusCorax> bekks: I had the same issue
[12:29] <CorvusCorax> blank screen, keyboard and mouse non responsive (crtl+alt+del didnt work either although the power button did)
[12:30] <CorvusCorax> I managed to get it installed using the net-installation mini iso since it uses text mode only
[12:30] <Domincii> Hey, I'm installing Ubuntu 12.10, I need to install it on a file that I can't format (of course I CAN format it, I just don't want to lose the files on it), I'm creating a new partition on it as Ext2 file system, where should I mount it?  / or /boot?
[12:30] <m000gle> MonkeyDust:  Actually, I may have found a solution ... If I symlink /home/gpodder (which contains the database and settings files) to C:\Users\<username>\gpodder , then the database files should remain in sync
[12:30] <gordonjcp> Domincii: there are a few things wrong with that
[12:31] <Domincii> Please elaborate, im not great at this :P
[12:31] <gordonjcp> Domincii: if this is going to be where you install Ubuntu, it needs to be mounted on /
[12:31] <gordonjcp> Domincii: you do kind of need to start with the partition totally clean - it might well work with stuff already on it, but who knows what weird interactions it'll cause
[12:31] <CorvusCorax> Dominci:, "I need to install it on a file ..."  I assume you mean "filesystem"
[12:31] <gordonjcp> Domincii: and don't use ext2 unless you know what you're doing
[12:31] <midhuno> bekks help me
[12:31] <jj99> anyone coding with a ubuntu vm?
[12:31] <CorvusCorax> or partition, or do you actually wnat to install into a filesystem image file?
[12:32] <Jordan_U> !anyone | jj99
[12:32] <jj99> 8)
[12:32] <Domincii> Gordonjcp I'm using an empty part of the disk
[12:32] <bekks> midhuno: I cant help you, since I dont have a D270 and I dont have ATI at all.
[12:32] <gordonjcp> Domincii: but you said you already had files on that partition
[12:32] <abailarri> bekks, i tried with other ftp client with the same configuration, and it works perfectly
[12:33] <CorvusCorax> midhuno: I have ati, and I have the same issue, I solved it. I'll PM you
[12:33] <CorvusCorax> too late
[12:33] <CorvusCorax> well
[12:33] <bekks> abailarri: You could create a bug report then.
[12:33] <CorvusCorax> ppl just dont listen
[12:33] <blackshirt> jj99, i dont know what you mean
[12:33] <CorvusCorax> !listen |CorvusCorax
[12:33] <Domincii> Nooooo, I have a 1tb hard drive, it has 15gb of important data on it, I want to install Ubuntu 12.10 on part of it that has nothing on it
[12:33] <abailarri> bekks, where?
[12:34] <CorvusCorax> Domincii, then make that part with nothing on it "ext3" and mount it as /
[12:34] <jj99> well i wanted to use ubuntu for programming but there is something fuucked up when i try to do an install so figured i'd try a ubuntu vm but not quite sure if it's viable due to performance
[12:34] <Domincii> CorvusCorax, thanks
[12:34] <jj99> i have an asus 55vw laptop
[12:35] <Jordan_U> jj99: Please watch your language.
[12:35] <CorvusCorax> !language |CorvusCorax
[12:35] <CorvusCorax> >;)
[12:36] <Jordan_U> jj99: Without GPU accelleration, Ubuntu 12.10 is almost unbearably slow in its default configuration (as it uses a "3D" Desktop Environment).
[12:36] <jj99> hmh yeah just installed and noticed it
[12:37] <Jordan_U> jj99: That said, with some virtual machine software you can get 3D accelleration after installing the right drivers, and you can also use a different desktop environment which doesn't use 3D rendering.
[12:37] <systemclient> I'd like to duplicate the default GRUB 2 entry and add some power saving parameters to it. How can I do that?
[12:37] <jj99> okay so it is probably doable but i need to do some tinkering
[12:38] <blackshirt> systemclient looks under some files at /etc/grub.d/
[12:38] <jj99> i've been using centos vms for all kinds of stuff and they have been ok so figured why not ubuntu 8)
[12:38] <jj99> Jordan_U thank you for your time
[12:38] <CorvusCorax> Hi. How do I report a bug about an ubuntu core component on launchpad? I already registered with launchpad and I did search existing bugs and came up empty. I can"t find where to make a new bug
[12:39] <yeats> !bug | CorvusCorax
[12:39] <Jordan_U> jj99: You're welcome. If you don't want to have to do any tinkering, then use Xubuntu or Lubuntu (neither of which use 3D window managers by default).
[12:39] <TheJoebocop_> I need help
[12:39] <gordonjcp> !help | TheJoebocop_
[12:39] <Seppoz> hello, what is UPower Daemon
[12:40] <Jordan_U> Seppoz: http://upower.freedesktop.org/
[12:41] <Seppoz> why is it messing up my usb serial converter?
[12:41] <CorvusCorax> !ty
[12:41] <gordonjcp> Seppoz: what makes you think it's messing up your usb serial converter?
[12:41] <Jordan_U> CorvusCorax: Please play with the bot either in PM or in #ubuntu-bots.
[12:42] <cure777> How to install ubuntu in smartphone?
[12:42] <Seppoz> because if its turned on my device is not useable anymore, i get device or ressource busy all the time, then my protocol is messed up
[12:42] <Seppoz> when i turn it off all works fine
[12:43] <TheJoebocop> gordonjcp: It's a hard to explain, long question though
[12:43] <almoxarife> cure777: i dont think ubuntu android is out yet
[12:43] <gordonjcp> Seppoz: so it sounds like it's trying to talk to whichever serial device your usb-to-serial cable shows up as
[12:44] <Seppoz> yea but thats strange aint it?
[12:44] <gordonjcp> could it be related to this?
[12:45] <gordonjcp> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=668932
[12:45] <gordonjcp> in particular comment 2
[12:45] <gordonjcp> and maybe also comment 6
[12:46] <CorvusCorax> Jordan_U, sorry, i did the ! by accident. i meant "ty yeats"
[12:49] <Ihsan_> Hello, I recently installed Moonlight on my new Ubuntu (12.10 64bit) machine. Whenever I open an application (of my school) that uses silverlight (moonlight) I get the following error: Could not call webservice. expected ';' (3B) but found '=' (3D) Line 32, position 115. -> What could be the possible problem for this and solution? Thanks in advance
[12:50] <ubuntu> hi
[12:51] <unrar> It may be bad writen.
[12:52] <TheJoebocop> I made this yesterday but so far I've gotten no help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2085316
[12:53] <MaxFrames> no wonder
[12:54] <TheJoebocop_> !help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2085316
[12:54] <gordonjcp> Seppoz: did that solve your problem?
[12:55] <yeats> Ihsan_: that project was abandoned - see this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/linux-silverlight-plugin-moonlight-abandoned
[12:55] <MaxFrames> TheJoebocop_: are you connected to the problematic wifi network now?
[12:55] <TheJoebocop_> I am yes
[12:56] <MaxFrames> thought so ;)
[12:56] <backupdrive> what would happen if i do not upgrade to latest ubuntu
[12:56] <Ihsan_> Oh :(, so how will I be able to run silverlight programs properly?
[12:56] <Seppoz> yes
[12:56] <Seppoz> ty
[12:56] <bekks> backupdrive: Then you'll stay on an older version, possibly an LTS.
[12:56] <MaxFrames> backupdrive: are you on 12.04 LTS?
[12:56] <gordonjcp> Seppoz: cool
[12:56] <TheJoebocop_> any help then?
[12:57] <gordonjcp> Seppoz: there's probably a corresponding Ubuntu bug in Launchpad
[12:57] <yeats> Ihsan_: you can try using Firefox/Silverlight on wine, but depending on what you need to do, that may not cut it
[12:57] <unrar> you won't
[12:57] <gordonjcp> Seppoz: go find it, register with Launchpad, and mark it as affecting you
[12:57] <MaxFrames> TheJoebocop_: can you delete all the wifi network clones from the network manager and start clean?
[12:57] <backupdrive> 11.04
[12:57] <Bustacap> How do I find out what nvidia driver version number I'm running o.O
[12:57] <Ihsan_> Allright, wel I think I will be using my virutal machine whenever I nbeed to visit my school site :)
[12:58] <bekks> backupdrive: Thats not supported anymore.
[12:58] <MaxFrames> backupdrive: I suggest you move to 12.04 LTS
[12:58] <MaxFrames> 5 years of guaranteed support
[12:59] <cloudgeek> for remote
[12:59] <cloudgeek> access
[12:59] <cloudgeek> best alternative
[12:59] <MaxFrames> cloudgeek: hello
[12:59] <cloudgeek> for teamcviewr
[13:00] <MaxFrames> what a way to ask a question on irc :D
[13:00] <bekks> MaxFrames: He failed. It wanst the maximum number of lines possible ;)
[13:01] <cloudgeek> MaxFrames: best alternative software for remtoe access GUI rather than (ssh cmd line)
[13:01] <MaxFrames> and type the lines in reverse polish notation :D
[13:01] <bekks> cloudgeek: The one you want.
[13:01] <MaxFrames> vnc over ssh?
[13:02] <cloudgeek> bekks: any suggestion from your side me try vnc over ssh
[13:02] <MaxFrames> or xrdp if you're using windows on the remote side
[13:02] <bekks> cloudgeek: I'd use nxclient/nxserver.
[13:03] <cloudgeek> bekks: thanks , i need if i have slow connection give best performance
[13:03] <MaxFrames> bbl... baby's waken up
[13:04] <cloudgeek> fro helping my friends
[13:06] <Onixs> is 6755=06755 ?
[13:07] <iuser> no
[13:08] <Onixs> whats the 0 then
[13:08] <mistaknly> Quick question...
[13:10] <mistaknly> Anybody there that can answer a Live CD question?
[13:10] <bekks> mistaknly: Not without knowing the question...
[13:10] <brontosaurusrex> !ask
[13:10] <mistaknly> Only have CD, not DVD drive
[13:11] <mistaknly> So I have to use the LTS version? Or is there a way to get the release version on a CD?
[13:11] <dr_willis> lubuntu 12.10 can fit on a cd i belive  or the minimal install image can go on a cd.. or use a USB stick
[13:11] <mistaknly> 12.10 is 758MB
[13:11] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: you do still need a lot of disk space for Lubuntu
[13:11] <dr_willis> 12.10 Ububntu is a DVD correct.
[13:12] <OerHeks> There are 800 mb cd+r
[13:12] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: I suspect that's a packaging bug though, because there's *no way* a Lubuntu install really needs 4GB
[13:12] <gordonjcp> don't use optical media, use USB
[13:12] <jiohdi> you can get bodhi linux 2.0 which is basically extremely light ubuntu 12.4
[13:12] <mistaknly> Yeah, my machine won't boot from USB, boohoo...
[13:13] <mistaknly> old, old, old
[13:13] <bekks> jiohdi: And which is not supported in here.
[13:13] <dr_willis> [   ] lubuntu-12.10-alternate-amd64.iso                           17-Oct-2012 07:27  648M
[13:13] <bekks> mistaknly: 12.04 will be supported for 5 years, 12.10 only 18 months.
[13:13] <mistaknly> x86
[13:13] <dr_willis> [   ] lubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso                             17-Oct-2012 18:14  699M
[13:13] <OerHeks> mistaknly, get the minimal like dr_willis suggested, and install Unity/gnome desktop tru internet.
[13:13] <jiohdi> bekks, its just a gutted ubuntu
[13:13] <dr_willis> for an old old old machine.. Lubuntu may be a better option
[13:13] <bekks> jiohdi: And not supported in here.
[13:14] <hex20dec> I'm so sick and tired of updates ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS ruining my OS.
[13:14] <hex20dec> Please help me once and for all, why is this always happening to me? The updates window popped up and all I did was let it update. Now my OS resolution is huge and for some reason it doesn't want to accept my password either. It's always something different.
[13:14] <hex20dec> What am I doing wrong?
[13:14] <mistaknly> ok thanks guys
[13:14] <jiohdi> bekks, no one is looking for support, but if someone needs to get ubuntu on a cd thats one way to do it, then just build back up from there
[13:15] <OerHeks> hex20dec, sounds like you installed videodrivers manually, you need to build them every time there is a kernel update.
[13:16] <hex20dec> OerHeks: Mind helping me out here on how to do this?
[13:18] <OerHeks> hex20dec, you could do this tru a script, http://askubuntu.com/questions/111177/triggering-driver-module-rebuild-on-kernel-update
[13:22] <ix_> would it work if I make a windows usb with dd? :)
[13:22] <ix_> I'd like to update my bios and I have no idea how
[13:24] <jiohdi> ix_, you would have to visit the bios manufacturers website and see if they have a firmware update
[13:24] <ix_> jiohdi, I already know that there is an update
[13:24] <jiohdi> there should be instructions on what to do, probably requires burning a cd
[13:25] <ix_> jiohdi, I don't have an optical drive on that pc
[13:25] <jiohdi> messing up the bios and you wont have any sort of computer
[13:25] <ix_> jiohdi, I know that much
[13:26] <jiohdi> is the bios causing errors?
[13:26] <OerHeks> ix_, maybe just burn the .bio like a data cd, and update from within the bios?
[13:27] <Led_Zeppelin> I have a graphics card with a DVI and VGA. CAn I use dual monitors for that ?
[13:27] <ix_> OerHeks, it says that the .bio is for recovery of the bios in case it is left unusable
[13:27] <tarelerulz> I ran teamspeak for an script and  it works ,but I can't see it now on any screen .  Is there restore so I can see it again
[13:28] <jiohdi> Led_Zeppelin, if it works, I doubt you can do more than clone one screen to the other
[13:28] <Led_Zeppelin> i see
[13:29] <Led_Zeppelin> i already have 2 video cards. card 1, vga only. card 2 , vga  + dvi. I have dual monitor setup. was wondering if I can do 3 monitor setu
[13:29] <P-Chan> HI guys I creating UBUNTU customized for live usb. How does I save user preferences in root? wallpapers, themes and etc
[13:30] <ix_> OerHeks, look here http://tinyurl.com/bb324zs it says that it can boot from the usb, I just don't understand how
[13:30] <jiohdi> P-Chan, user preferences are usually in hidden files on the /home/user directory
[13:30] <iuser> ubuntu doesn't support persistence in casper mode
[13:30] <iuser> afaik
[13:31] <P-Chan> jiohdi: HOW MOVE to root
[13:31] <P-Chan> because home use root preferences
[13:31] <jiohdi> p-chan you can open a browser as root or sudo and then move anything anywhere you like
[13:31] <jiohdi> file manager that is
[13:31] <P-Chan> ok
[13:32] <CorvusCorax> I filed a bug report, is this an apropriate bug report or do I have to add information? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1080344
[13:32] <P-Chan> jiohdi: is this affects globally?
[13:32] <jiohdi> P-Chan, what does that mean?
[13:33] <P-Chan> jiohdi: I saved my preferences in hard drive but I want use my preferences in live usb too
[13:33] <jiohdi> you may have to change owners
[13:34] <jiohdi> or permissions
[13:34] <hex20dec> OerHeks: Sorry about the delay.. Uhmm.. I haven't installed any drivers manually.
[13:35] <TomyLobo> hi i'm trying to run jd-gui (an i386 app) on ubuntu 12.04 LTS amd64. This is what i get: http://pastebin.com/9wNtfvBa
[13:36] <TomyLobo> the app apears to run normally, but i'm still concerned about those warnings hinting at a bug in multiarch
[13:36] <hex20dec> OerHeks: Do I still need to go through that process in the link you sent me to?
[13:37] <OerHeks> hex20dec, yes, this time manually
[13:37] <TomyLobo> i tried to install the i386 version of appmenu-gtk (which contains that file), but wasn't able to do so because it conflicts with the amd64 version
[13:39] <TomyLobo> (resolved the oxygen-gtk warning in the meantime. looks much better now :))
[13:39] <hex20dec> OerHeks: It clearly says: "This guide is not aimed at users who have installed the drivers using EnvyNG or via the default Ubuntu mechanism."
[13:39] <vivid> TomyLobo, yeah you cant have both appmenu-gtk and appmenu-gtk:i386 at the same time
[13:40] <vivid> you could probably use LD_PRELOAD though...
[13:40] <OerHeks> hex20dec, envyNG is very old method to use win drivers
[13:40] <TomyLobo> vivid eh? manually specifying library paths?
[13:40] <JeffBauer> hey buddies, i still can't enable 3D on my AMD Hybrid notebook HP G42 :(
[13:41] <hex20dec> OerHeks: I was talking about the ubuntu mechanism, which is how I got my drivers, I never installed any of them manually, it was all installed with the OS.
[13:41] <TomyLobo> i'm not even sure what that library does or why jd-gui needs it
[13:41] <vivid> no, if you download the i386 libappmenu.so, you can do say... 'LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/libappmenu.so program"
[13:41] <hex20dec> OerHeks: Sorry, I'm just a bit confused as to why I need to run this..
[13:42] <OerHeks> hex20dec, oke, then you didn't install them bij downloading and applying yourself, then forget about this script, not suitable for you
[13:42] <vivid> hex20dec, its probably theres a misunderstanding what your problem is.  it is not common or usual to have symptoms like yours
[13:42] <OerHeks> indeed, like vivid says
[13:43]  * OerHeks got the wrong conclusion
[13:43] <dr_willis> EnvyNG? that may be a very old guide if it mentions EnvyNG
[13:43] <hex20dec> OerHeks: I'm glad you did, because I didn't want to go through this.
[13:43] <hex20dec> =P
[13:43] <JeffBauer>  HP G42-371 - Turion P560 2,5GHz, DDR3, ATI Radeon HD 6370M
[13:44] <JeffBauer> can't enable my gpu :(
[13:44] <vivid> TomyLobo, so, if you go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and download the i386 appmenu-gtk package, you can extract it to your desktop and use LD_PRELOAD to inject the correct libappmenu.so when you run the app
[13:44] <TomyLobo> vivid yup i know
[13:44] <vivid> k
[13:44] <hex20dec> As I stated before, why do I always get screwed after installing updates? What am I doing wrong? and how do I fix my video driver now?
[13:44] <dr_willis> JeffBauer:  those Hybrid Gfx setups are the current 'top 10' issue these days.
[13:45] <vivid> hex20dec, maybe start with which video card and video driver youre using?
[13:45] <JeffBauer> dr_willis, oh that's so bad.. i'm about to downgrade to 10.04, because the proprietary driver works on it
[13:45] <dr_willis> JeffBauer: im suprised it does.
[13:46] <hex20dec> vivid: No video card, it's onboard video.
[13:46] <JeffBauer> dr_willis, perfectelly
[13:47] <dr_willis> i find it hard to belive drivers from 2 yrs ago work 'perfectly' on a new ati chipset. but  do whatever you want.
[13:47] <dr_willis> could be its just ignoreign the 'right' thing
[13:47] <dr_willis> ignoreing ;)
[13:47] <hex20dec> vivid: So? What do I do?
[13:47] <dr_willis> vivid:  onboard video IS a video card
[13:47] <dr_willis> oops that was for hex20dec  ;)
[13:47] <hex20dec> I know, but it isn't a card.
[13:48] <vivid> maybe 'lspci | grep vga' would shed some light
[13:48] <dr_willis> hex20dec:  #1 - determine your exact video CHIPSET
[13:48] <dr_willis> happy now? ;)
[13:48] <hex20dec> dr_willis: Yes. =]
[13:48] <vivid> lspci | grep -i vga
[13:48] <hex20dec> Will try now, thanks.
[13:48] <dr_willis> and it is on the pci buss so it is a video card. ;)
[13:49] <hex20dec> vivid: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[13:53] <hex20dec> vivid: dr_willis: Okay, chipset determined, now what?
[13:53] <dr_willis> i dont even know your original problem.. i was feeding my dog.. ;)
[13:53] <hex20dec> Lol
[13:53] <graingert> JeffBauer: what's your issue?
[13:54] <dr_willis> intel drivers should be included by default anyway
[13:54] <hex20dec> It was, but after a normal update I lost them.
[13:55] <dr_willis> you mean a  upgrade from one reelase to the next? or a update  but staying on the same release
[13:55] <hex20dec> My OS always get screwed after an update, every single time. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I'm just allowing the update to happen. =[
[13:55] <hex20dec> Simple update.
[13:55] <dr_willis> tried a
[13:55] <hex20dec> ?
[13:55] <dr_willis> tried a  'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[13:55] <hex20dec> No.
[13:56] <hex20dec> Should I?
[13:56] <dr_willis> ive rarely had updated break things. but a kernel update could i guess have regressions or other bugs
[13:56] <dr_willis> what do you hjave to lose. ;)
[13:56] <hex20dec> a lot!
[13:56] <dr_willis> dist-upgrade is a bit like a more hard-core upgrade
[13:56] <dr_willis> so your system is working?  whats it doing exactly right now..
[13:56] <hex20dec> Yeah, if update ruins my OS, I don't want to know what dist-upgrade will do.
[13:57] <hex20dec> Graphic driver is lost.
[13:57] <hex20dec> How do I get it back?
[13:57] <bekks> hex20dec: How did you install it...?
[13:57] <hex20dec> Last time I installed an update I wasn't able to log to my user, had to create a new one.
[13:57] <dr_willis> 'what is your system doing when you boot up exatly?'
[13:57] <hex20dec> The update gui pop up.
[13:58] <bekks> hex20dec: So how did you install the graphics driver last time?
[13:58] <hex20dec> Was installed upon OS installation.
[13:58] <hex20dec> Onboard card.
[13:58] <hex20dec> Onboard video.
[13:58] <fairuz_> Hi anyone know about Ubuntu for Android from Canonical. How they do it? Same kernel with 2 OS? Or Ubuntu somehow runs in Android ?
[13:59] <bekks> hex20dec: Which chipset?
[13:59] <hex20dec> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[13:59] <hex20dec> dr_willis: What is it doing? Nothing, just booting normally.
[14:00] <vivid> fairuz, its not "released" yet, but i heard they have some focus on the nexus 7 with 13.04
[14:01] <vivid> fairuz, if you youtube 'ubuntu nexus 7' im sure you can find some people that have installed it on the device, but the usuability and performance is pretty low
[14:02] <hex20dec> dr_willis: But seriously, why do I always have something messed up after updates?
[14:02] <vivid> hex20dec, do you have some random ppa enabled?
[14:02] <dr_willis> hex20dec:  no idea. you are in the vast minority
[14:02] <fairuz_> vivid: Yea I know it's not released yet. Just curious how they did it.
[14:02] <DarsVaeda> how do you uninstall that youtube firefox integration? what is it called can't find it in the software center
[14:03] <fairuz_> Is it basically Ubuntu chrooted in existing Android?
[14:03] <hex20dec> vivid: If I knew what ppa was I might answer your question.
[14:03] <vivid> fairuz_, im pretty sure its just standard ubuntu installed on the root of the device.  work needs to be done to improve usability
[14:03] <dr_willis> kernel updates can have regressions. but those are normally fixed quickly. and you can alwyas select an older kenrnel to get back to the older kernel and drivers
[14:03] <fairuz_> vivid: I don't think it's standard Ubuntu
[14:03] <fairuz_> since Android is running concurrently with Ubuntu
[14:03] <vivid> oh, i havent seen any that run them both.  just one or the other
[14:04] <dr_willis> DarsVaeda:  what Firefox Youtube integeration?
[14:04] <SolarisBoy> well for one its most likely a kernel compiled for whatever architecture nexus7's runs
[14:04] <DarsVaeda> it gives you shortcuts to youtube and a launcher integration
[14:04] <vivid> dr_willis, in 12.10 they have web app style links to web pages
[14:04] <DarsVaeda> also it takes over the fullscreen mode of youtube (but not working)
[14:04] <hex20dec> dr_willis: Well, do you know how to fix my issue and install my missing driver?
[14:04] <fairuz_> vivid: They said both are using the same kernel
[14:05] <fairuz_> I'm interested to know how they do it.
[14:05] <DarsVaeda> oh it is called WebApps
[14:06] <vivid> DarsVaeda, yes, unity-webapps-youtube
[14:06] <hex20dec> I can't believe no one here can help me install a simple driver. ='[
[14:06] <DarsVaeda> vivid: ahh thanks!
[14:06] <Guest57983> hi may i ask if what the keyword/command when changing keyboard lay out
[14:07] <varikonniemi> hex20dec, with linux you are out of luck with kernel mode drivers, it is a pain if it not automated
[14:07] <arslan> Hi are there a ubuntu mini desktop version, i have server now ?
[14:08] <varikonniemi> so i guess that requires expertise not readily available here
[14:08] <varikonniemi> arslan, mini version?
[14:08] <varikonniemi> there is the mini.iso net install image
[14:08] <arslan> yes i need ubuntu mini dekstop versiion
[14:08] <arslan> some dont need many resource
[14:08] <varikonniemi> it comes as alternate
[14:08] <Guest57983> My laptop i bougth is taiwan ang theres a num keypad on the alphabet and need function key to activate the numpad, may problem is the num keypaf is activated without pressing function key
[14:09] <varikonniemi> arslan, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/12.10/
[14:09] <arslan> Variokeonni i mean some like kde and other
[14:09] <arslan> little ubuntu desktop version
[14:10] <arslan> i have a ubuntu server now, and i want to transfer to desktop
[14:10] <varikonniemi> then install ubuntu normal?
[14:10] <vivid> arslan, if you want a light desktop, probably lubuntu is your best bet
[14:10] <vivid> otherwise you have standard ubuntu, kubuntu or xubuntu
[14:10] <varikonniemi> vidi, ?
[14:10] <arslan> ok what are best?
[14:10] <vivid> thats up to you, its all opinion
[14:10] <vivid> i like ubuntu myself
[14:11] <varikonniemi> if your computer can run it i recommend ubuntu
[14:11] <arslan> aha
[14:11] <varikonniemi> otherwise lubuntu
[14:11] <arslan> its a small right ?
[14:11] <varikonniemi> CD image is ~700megs
[14:11] <varikonniemi> and on disk it is very small compared to windows
[14:11] <arslan> and can i install apt-get software there?
[14:11] <taiga> hello
[14:12] <taiga> can you help me with something?
[14:12] <unrar>  I don't like LXDE
[14:12] <varikonniemi> yes all variants of ubuntu have apt-get
[14:12] <unrar> XFCE
[14:12] <unrar> And compatible with ubuntu ppa
[14:12] <varikonniemi> taiga, don't ask to ask
[14:12] <LinuxFreakD> I am transfering 950 GB from one SATAII HDD to another, both plugged into motherboard. Source drive is ext4 and destination drive is ntfs. It said 23 hours to transfer. Isn't that rather slow, as in I should be looking into fixing it?
[14:12] <taiga> varikonniemi, then what should i do?
[14:12] <arslan> arh ok varikonniemi thanks for help
[14:12] <arslan> i will try lubuntu
[14:12] <varikonniemi> taiga, just ask :D
[14:13] <taiga> right. well my livecd doesn't boot
[14:13] <vivid> taiga, just ask the question you have, if someone has an answer theyll respond
[14:13] <arslan> what about hacking varikonniemi its a secure?
[14:13] <taiga> it says i need "pae"
[14:13] <bekks> LinuxFreakD: Thats fairly good, since NTFS is provided by FUSE, and is pretty slow by design.
[14:13] <arslan> its will run with server.
[14:13] <unrar> then instalp a pae kernel
[14:13] <unrar> !pae
[14:13] <varikonniemi> arslan, all linux is very secure
[14:13] <arslan> hehe ok
[14:13] <unrar> !pae > taiga
[14:13] <taiga> i have like under 1GB ram anyway
[14:13] <LinuxFreakD> bekks: ah ok. Thanks. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't sitting here unnecessarily long.
[14:14] <taiga> it just doesn't boot
[14:14] <unrar> And what's the error? When do you see it?
[14:14] <varikonniemi> taiga if you do not hav pae support your setup is so old i think you should forget ubuntu
[14:15] <taiga> it was actually lubuntu but their channel is dead and the name sounds similar
[14:15] <varikonniemi> 12.04 might still work but not 12.10
[14:15] <varikonniemi> taiga, you could try linux mint
[14:15] <varikonniemi> they ship non-pae kernels
[14:15] <taiga> well i don't think using an obsolete version is a good idea
[14:15] <varikonniemi> 12.04 is not obsolete
[14:15] <taiga> linux mint hmm
[14:16] <unrar> Linux Mint = Ubuntu without Unity
[14:16] <taiga> do they have "lubuntu" too
[14:16] <unrar> It's better IMHO
[14:16] <varikonniemi> no their default desktop is lightweight gnome
[14:16] <OerHeks> hex20dec, i have bean searching for your  Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 , but no solution on 12.04/12.10
[14:16] <unrar> They have a KDE and a XFCE edition
[14:16] <unrar> But not LXDE
[14:16] <taiga> i need the lubuntu kind of ubuntu
[14:16] <taiga> umm
[14:16] <varikonniemi> thats linux mint with mate
[14:16] <taiga> you know what i mean, right
[14:16] <unrar> you can install the xfce version and then install lxde
[14:16] <varikonniemi> mate = gnome2.x
[14:16] <unrar> yep
[14:17] <hex20dec> OerHeks: Thanks man! =] I appreciate it even though you didn't find anything.
[14:17] <unrar> and Cinnamon is a shell for gnome 3
[14:17] <raavi_> Hi all
[14:17] <taiga> it's a pentium m, xfce is kinda... slow there
[14:17] <ix_> I get a blinking cursor after grub sometimes and it freezes, if I force a reboot, it works fine, how can I find out what is wrong?
[14:17] <varikonniemi> taiga, well
[14:17] <taiga> i've tried xubuntu a few years ago
[14:17] <LinuxFreakD> bekks, what if I changed the partition to fat32 about how long would you say it would take to transfer 950 gigs to it/
[14:17] <varikonniemi> taiga, have you had linux running before?
[14:18] <raavi_> Do anybody if gnome-commander supports trash usage or it is deleting permanently files?
[14:18] <varikonniemi> i installed lubuntu on my 1.3 ghz celeron with 512 ram, and anything slower will be a pian if you manage to get it to work
[14:18] <varikonniemi> 1.13ghz
[14:18] <taiga> yeah but i switched back to windows due to slowness
[14:18] <varikonniemi> xp?
[14:18] <taiga> yes
[14:18] <pippo> ciao
[14:18] <varikonniemi> yes.. thats like 10 years old
[14:18] <pippo> !list
[14:18] <varikonniemi> lubuntu is like some months
[14:18] <ix_> taiga, you switched to windows because Linux is slow? :))
[14:19] <varikonniemi> xp has less overhead on many tasks than linux
[14:19] <taiga> well i don't want to use xp cause i have "badram" and i can't but it into kernel options for windows, that's what i heard anyway
[14:19] <varikonniemi> that os is obsolete ;)
[14:19] <vivid> i still use it ... :o
[14:20] <TomyLobo> the things you can strip from xp are tiny compared to linux
[14:20] <varikonniemi> so you tried 12.10 and it said it need pae? then i can only say linux mint because they ship non-pae in at least linux mint debian edition
[14:20] <taiga> i actually use server 2003 that i got from a friend
[14:20] <varikonniemi> but also they are removing it soon
[14:20] <varikonniemi> so it just says your computer is too old for mainstream distributions
[14:21] <TomyLobo> if linux is too slow for you, remove a few services and switch to XFCE or something
[14:21] <taiga> why do i need pae if i have only 700M ram?
[14:21] <ix_> not xfce, switch to openbox
[14:21] <varikonniemi> because the pae kernel is the default kernel
[14:21] <varikonniemi> and they don't care to maintain the obsolete i386 kernel
[14:21] <taiga> umm.. livecd doesn't boot
[14:22] <ix_> I can show you an openbox desktop that uses 23 MB of RAM
[14:22] <vivid> taiga, did you try the alternate cd?
[14:22] <taiga> no, i wanted to try it first
[14:23] <OerHeks> varikonniemi, there is a non-pea build iso > http://people.canonical.com/~diwic/12.04-nonpae/
[14:24] <varikonniemi> nice, is there also for 12.10 ?
[14:24] <OerHeks> nope :9
[14:24] <varikonniemi> :{
[14:24] <hex20dec> OerHeks: Thanks again, and if you're still looking for it I think you should stop. I'm going to sleep.. GN
[14:24] <ix_> varikonniemi, check out Debian
[14:24] <varikonniemi> me? why
[14:24] <ix_> varikonniemi, didn't you want a non-pae kernel?
[14:25] <varikonniemi> no i helped him who wanted
[14:25] <ix_> oh
 so you tried 12.10 and it said it need pae? then i can only say linux mint because they ship non-pae in at least linux mint debian edition
[14:25] <gnubie> taiga> non pae capable cpus wont work/boot with 12.10 and 12.04(supported ti 1217) have to be installed with net install
[14:26] <gnubie> 2017
[14:26] <varikonniemi> lubuntu is though not
[14:26] <varikonniemi> LTE
[14:26] <varikonniemi> LTS
[14:26] <varikonniemi> :D
[14:26] <JeffBauer> graingert, please, i can't enable my 3D driver
[14:29] <vivid> JeffBauer, which release and video card?
[14:30] <darthdeus> can i do something like `sudo -u deploy -i foo` without losing the directory where i invoke the command? if i do it this way, it will be run in the deploy's home
[14:31] <VlanX> anyone with a bluray burner with Ubuntu?
[14:31] <JeffBauer> vivid, ubuntu 12.10 and 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]  and 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Robson CE [AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series]
[14:32] <vivid> JeffBauer, if you press the super key (windows key) type in software sources and go to the additional drivers tab, you should have a list of available drivers for your card
[14:32] <xrfang> Hi there, do you still see the "Startup Applications" from the system menu (top right corner of screen)?
[14:32] <vivid> xrfang, it seems to be missing from 12.10
[14:32] <JeffBauer> vivid, the don't enable 3D, i've already tried that
[14:32] <xrfang> vivid, is there any reason for this, or is it a bug?
[14:32] <vivid> xrfang, i dont know, probably by design
[14:33] <novaspirit> hi im' having a problem with ubuquity installation plugininstall.py console_setup failed with code 1
[14:34] <xrfang> then now to edit startup applications in 12.10 ?
[14:34] <vivid> xrfang, press the super key and type in startup
[14:36] <JeffBauer> vivid, the driver i've downloaded from ati.com worked on ubuntu 10.04, but won't work on ubuntu 12.10
[14:36] <xrfang> vivid, it did not find any program
[14:36] <vivid> JeffBauer, if youre on a laptop, its possible theres another gpu in the way, im not sure how to resolve that for an amd card
[14:37] <vivid> xrfang, try gnome-session-properties
[14:37] <xrfang> vivid, that's it, thanks.
[14:38] <darthdeus> can i change a user who is running a script?
[14:38] <darthdeus> if i execute sometihng as root, but i need to run from some point as a different user
[14:38]  * darthdeus i tried
[14:38] <darthdeus> sudo -u deploy -i; whoami
[14:38] <darthdeus> but it still returns root
[14:38] <CorvusCorax> Question: in unity, where do I find a categorized main menu? other than the "dash/home" thingy
[14:39] <vivid> CorvusCorax, if you press super+a theres a filter option on the top right of the dash
[14:40] <CorvusCorax> ah ok
[14:40] <Orion78> How to report bug in apport?
[14:41] <CorvusCorax> would "ubuntu-bug apport" work?
[14:41] <Orion78> CorvusCorax: no, it crashes
[14:41] <frederick> anybody know how to install tablet driver?
[14:42] <CorvusCorax> Orion78, then you might have to report via the webpage, theres a url to report bugs manually
[14:42] <CorvusCorax> in launchpad
[14:42] <CorvusCorax> !bug |Orion78
[14:42] <Orion78> I was trying to find it, but all I find is a page with help on how to use apport to report bugs, which in my case is pretty annoing.
[14:43] <CorvusCorax> the link is somewhere on that page,lemme find it ...
[14:43] <akashj87> Hey guys ....need one help......From local, we use ssh myid@abcd.com , then afte typing in password .....we do su - appname ..then we do a sftp myid@abcd.com to get a file
[14:43] <akashj87> any pointers to get this done using a script ?
[14:43] <akashj87> tried stackexhange : http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/56039/script-to-get-file-from-sftp-and-run-it
[14:43] <akashj87> but no update as of now
[14:44] <CorvusCorax> Orion78: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/PACKAGENAME/+filebug?no-redirect
[14:44] <CorvusCorax> so I guess u'd replace PACKAGEname with apport
[14:44] <frederick> anybody can give me a help with my driver installation??
[14:44] <frederick> help
[14:44] <Orion78> CorvusCorax: Thank you.
[14:44] <triple5-daniel> hey I have some trouble, when on the command line (tty) I get continous output of errors
[14:45] <CorvusCorax> triple5-daniel, which tty and what errord, can you post a pastebin?
[14:45] <triple5-daniel> I want to catch those somewhere else to record for example 1>errors.txt
[14:45] <CorvusCorax> usually errors go to stderr so it'd be 2>errors.txt
[14:46] <CorvusCorax> but if its a program thats already running it migh be more tricky
[14:46] <triple5-daniel> CourvusCorax: any tty as soon as I log in , basically exryptfs_writer:Error encrypting page; rc= [-30]
[14:46] <frederick> i have a UGEE RAINBOW TABLET,but i can not let it work in my ubuntu studio
[14:46] <frederick> anybody can help??thank you very much
[14:47] <triple5-daniel> I just want to catch those errors to paste them in pastebin, but don't know how.
[14:47] <CorvusCorax> triple5-daniel that might be tricky, since its something that gets started from your profile. you might want to check your .bashrc .profile or /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc to see what else gets started and redirect it there
[14:48] <triple5-daniel> I tried vi but everything gets flooded by those errors
[14:48] <CorvusCorax> it could also be kernel error messages, that would be an indicator that syslog inst running
[14:48] <triple5-daniel> can I turn it of from very low level?
[14:48] <CorvusCorax> kernel errors go to the tty if no syslog is running
[14:49] <CorvusCorax> well you can turn off the tty but that doesn't help much
[14:49] <CorvusCorax> does it also happen when you login as root ?
[14:49] <triple5-daniel> I need some terminal to analyse etc. yes, also as root
[14:49] <triple5-daniel> not when I login as unprivileged user
[14:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:50] <Annoyed> Greetings... Anyone familiar with 12.10 bug # 1068341   Nvida drivers and the kernel headers not being sucked in as a dependancy?
[14:50] <CorvusCorax> hmm if its OK as unprivileged, you could login unprivileged then and do su or sudo /bin/bash
[14:50] <triple5-daniel> frederick: don't post private messages, just post in the channel, best if you read the guidelines how to ask good questions...
[14:50] <CorvusCorax> but honestly, rediecting the stdout or stderr of a program that is already running is very tricky
[14:51] <CorvusCorax> it has to b done when that program is started
[14:51] <CorvusCorax> you could try to find out which program generates the errors and just kill it
[14:52] <triple5-daniel> i see failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED
[14:53] <CorvusCorax> triple5-daniel, looks a lot like kernel errors to me. can you manually start syslog?
[14:53] <CorvusCorax> like /usr/sbin/rsyslogd
[14:54] <CorvusCorax> it should hopefully interept kernel errors and put thm into /var/log/syslog instead
[14:54] <sudaya> hi all how to install skype in 12.10 ?
[14:54] <Seveas> !skype
[14:56] <djtf> sudaya: If you visit Skype's website, there is a download available for .deb installation package. Download that file, right click on it in your file manager, and open it using the Ubuntu Software Center.
[14:56] <triple5-daniel> CorvusCorax: I have rsyslogd running. now the flow stopped and I can open syslog, the errors are there, I will paste from pastebin...
[14:56] <Annoyed> Greetings... Anyone familiar with 12.10 bug # 1068341   Nvida drivers and the kernel headers not being sucked in as a dependancy?
[14:57] <sudaya> djtf: i get download link for 12.04 only and i am using 64 bit 12.10
[14:58] <CorvusCorax> @triple5-daniel thats a good start
[14:58] <djtf> sudaya: That package will download and install just fine on 12.10.
[14:59] <kryuko> ciaooooooo
[14:59] <MoL0ToV> hi boys my webcam don't work on ubuntu 12.10: http://www.pastebin.ca/2252711 someone can help me?
[14:59] <djtf> sudaya: I believe they're only packaging it for long-term support releases.
[15:00] <TUX420> I have an odd issue, how someone can help. I'm trying to format an eSATA drive but when I format it seems to be trying to access one of my CD drives (light is active with no disk in). Al though the light on the eSATA drive is also active, the format is way too slow t be normal.
[15:01] <troJJin> fuck you m8, i dont need your help bitch
[15:01] <djtf> TUX420: what utility are you using to format the disk?
[15:01] <TUX420> I've tried both the gui disktool and fdisk from command line
[15:02] <m8> troJJin, :O
[15:02] <drag0nius> would ubuntu run on 244 ram machine? ;d
[15:02] <drag0nius> 244 mb
[15:02] <troJJin> no
[15:02] <Annoyed> No, it would crawl. Probably couldn't get through the installer
[15:02] <troJJin> it wouldnt
[15:02] <troJJin> ubuntu cant run on 244 ram
[15:02] <troJJin> duh
[15:02] <drag0nius> ;(
[15:02] <TUX420> might if you used xfe as yer desktop but still
[15:02] <CorvusCorax> well the kernel would
[15:02] <yeats> drag0nius: you might look into tiny distros like puppy
[15:02] <Evil_Eric> hmmm steam and ubuntu hmmmm
[15:03] <CorvusCorax> and if you use icewm or twm as a window manager x might run as well
[15:03] <drag0nius> i just received some~8 yrs comp
[15:03] <troJJin> steam is impossible on linux
[15:03] <drag0nius> 244 ram athlong 1.6ghz
[15:03] <drag0nius> 32 gpu ram
[15:03] <CorvusCorax> but dont think about running firefox, firefox doesnt run in 256 m ram anymore since firefox2. it became a memory hog in 3.x
[15:03] <Annoyed> Is anyone familiar with the issue where nvidia propriety drivers won't work right 'cause linux-headers are no longer installed  ?
[15:03] <drag0nius> any suggestions what could i run there instead of xp?
[15:03] <Evil_Eric> im actually installing the steam beta client now
[15:03] <troJJin> 32 gpu ram>?
[15:03] <TUX420> use it as a lilttle server for something/
[15:04] <atari314> Hello, I'm having this issue on my boot: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready. Does anyone know how can I disable my eth0 at kernel level?
[15:04] <troJJin> its little not lilttle
[15:04] <judahlion> I want to show the weather in conky, can someone help me please?
[15:04] <TUX420> djtf: any idea why it would be confussing the CD drive with the HDD?
[15:04] <troJJin> judahlion solution. move elsewhere
[15:04] <CorvusCorax> drag0nius, if you set enough swap space it would certainly run. allthough i wouldn't call it "run" i would call it "crawl"
[15:05] <Annoyed> drag0nius : damn small linux >
[15:05] <Annoyed> ?
[15:05] <troJJin> he has a $5 pc
[15:05] <triple5-daniel> It is pasted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1367732 I had to do this from command line (pastebinit, so it is a rather large file)
[15:05] <CorvusCorax> I have run IceWM on a 256 MB machie for years
[15:05] <CorvusCorax> works nicely when you use a small browser like midori
[15:06] <djtf> TUX420: that's an odd one; if you try doing it from the command line and specify the device is the result the same?
[15:06] <TUX420> yeah the drive is /dex/sda (sda1 for the part) and still flashing the CDrom drive light
[15:06] <TUX420>  /dev rather
[15:07] <drag0nius> lets try lubuntu
[15:07] <troJJin> lets not and say we did
[15:07] <triple5-daniel> look at Nov 18 14:43:14 daniel-desktop gdm-password][2298]: under http://paste.ubuntu.com/1367732
[15:07] <drag0nius> i wanna give this comp to neighbors, they have none
[15:08] <triple5-daniel> here it started
[15:08] <drag0nius> wondering if there would be some better alternative than winxp
[15:08] <troJJin> Do you live in a bad neighbor hood or something?
[15:08] <CorvusCorax> troJJin, your mother has blonde hair, right?
[15:08] <troJJin> who doesnt have a pc now?
[15:08] <troJJin> No my mom has brown hair why?
[15:08] <atari314> Hello, I'm having this issue on my boot: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready. Does anyone know how can I disable my eth0 at kernel level?
[15:08] <OerHeks> !ot | troJJin
[15:08] <CorvusCorax> I think I saw you the other day in toys R us when you were complaining she wouldn't buy you that barbie doll
[15:09] <troJJin> !ot | OerHeks
[15:09] <OerHeks> CorvusCorax, please stop.
[15:09] <MoL0ToV> hi boys my webcam don't work on ubuntu 12.10: http://www.pastebin.ca/2252711 someone can help me?
[15:09] <troJJin> OerHeks O!ot
[15:09] <troJJin> OerHeks !ot
[15:10] <CorvusCorax> OerHeks, but, i have a full bucket of fish here for the dayly feeding session :)
[15:10] <troJJin> corvus that is random
[15:10] <troJJin> !ot
[15:11] <TUX420> going to disable the DVD/CD in cmos and have another go at this.
[15:11] <m000gle> Does anyone know of a way to create a symlink which can be opened in both Windows and Ubuntu? ... Whenever I make a Linux symlink, Windows fails to recognize it; and whenever I create a symlink in Windows (using the mklink command) Ubuntu fails to recognize it.
[15:11] <dr_willis> MoL0ToV:  have you tested it in 'cheese' yet?
[15:11] <troJJin> My penis is 9" - 3" +1"
[15:12] <OerHeks> !ops |  troJJin
[15:12] <CorvusCorax> m000gle, not that I know of, sorry. In windows, Symlinks are small text files with meta information while in linux they are special inodes without file content
[15:12] <CorvusCorax> there might be some hacks, google might help
[15:12] <taiga> troJJin, thanks for telling us
[15:12] <troJJin> OerHeks you can suck it
[15:12] <tsquar3d> Hi! Is there a way ot keep the toolbar from showing up on a second monitor?
[15:13] <OerHeks> m000gle, symlink to what?
[15:13] <troJJin> When is the next version of ubuntu coming out? around when?
[15:13] <dr_willis> ntfs/windows has some sort of softlink feature i recall.. but we had a similer discussion in here the other day. :) one guy said NTFS-3g translated the links.. but i havent tested it
[15:13] <siavashserver> troJJin: 04 and 10
[15:14] <Annoyed> 12.10 just came out... so 6 months from then
[15:14] <yeats> don't feed the troll, folks
[15:14]  * CorvusCorax puts the bucket of fish away ... "daw :-("
[15:14] <djtf> troJJin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[15:15] <triple5-daniel> stop feeding trolls please
[15:15] <troJJin> thans
[15:15] <troJJin> thanks
[15:15] <djtf> CorvusCorax: didn't know they were seafood fans ;)
[15:16] <m000gle> OerHeks: Its a symlink on a shared NTFS partition, and I'm trying to get both Windows and Ubuntu to follow it the same (treat the symlink as the folder it links to)
[15:16] <triple5-daniel> So I found out that somehow my permissions on my home dir have been compromised, seems to be mounted ro...
[15:16] <gordonjcp> triple5-daniel: is /home on a separate partition?
[15:17] <triple5-daniel> I have my system on SSD and /home on hdd
[15:17] <m000gle> CorvusCorax:  Thanks.  If I'm unable to find one which works, I'll try and find a work around
[15:17] <CorvusCorax> djtf, (ot) thats from the german IT news portal "heise" - which has an almost shlashdot like forum. troll feed posts there have to include the obligatory fish <°<<<-< in them
[15:17] <CorvusCorax> m000gle, good luck
[15:17] <gordonjcp> triple5-daniel: have you tried something like "sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/whatever/home/is/on
[15:18] <troJJin> corvus what is that post about?
[15:18] <troJJin> ? ot
[15:18] <gordonjcp> CorvusCorax: heh
[15:19] <Annoyed> Greetings... Anyone familiar with 12.10 bug # 1068341   Proprietary Nvida drivers don't work because the kernel headers not being sucked in as a dependancy anymore?
[15:19] <sheerun> Just discovered auto-apt run ./configure. Awesome!
[15:20] <troJJin> I poop every 2 - 3 weeks
[15:20] <MoL0ToV> dr_willis, yes, cheese don't find the webcam device file so i think that the uvc driver is missed or don't find my device
[15:20] <triple5-daniel> thanks gordonjcp but: cannout remount block device /dev/sdb1, is write protected
[15:20] <triple5-daniel> (that is the error message)
[15:21] <triple5-daniel> trying another reboot
[15:21] <dodi> how do I get the files required by vmware tools install?
[15:22] <OerHeks> m000gle , standard symlink uses the /d option, symbolic, use the /h option >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_symbolic_link
[15:22] <OerHeks> oh he is gone
[15:23] <vijak> hello
[15:23] <vijak> need some help... can any1 spare a minute or hour?
[15:23] <OerHeks> hi vijak, just ask
[15:24] <triple5-daniel> ah, i had done automatic check but it needed manual fsck...
[15:24] <vijak> o, hy, tnx..
[15:24] <MoL0ToV> dr_willis, suggestion?
[15:25] <vijak> i use ubuntu 12.04.. fresh installed.. now i would like to learn everything about vm box
[15:25] <vijak> got installed win xp, but cant get to HD files
[15:26] <vijak> is there any slovene channel? - > Slovenia (europe)
[15:27] <CorvusCorax> sorry vijak , no idea
[15:27] <OerHeks> vijak, join #ubuntu-si for slovenska
[15:27] <vijak> ok, tnx
[15:27] <kishimi8I> pls help how to i transit from a partial upgrade to a full upgrade  plssss
[15:27] <kishimi8I> from 12.04. to 12.10
[15:29] <djtf> kishimi8I: from a terminal, run apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:29] <dr_willis> MoL0ToV:  from what ive seen. either a webcam works.. or is totally unsupported with no drivers. its possible theres some experimental drivers for it. or somthing comming up in newer kernels.
[15:30] <kishimi8I> ok thanks will try that now
[15:31] <MoL0ToV> dr_willis, my webcam is listed on http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/ is a acer crystal eye webcam
[15:34] <kishimi8I> tried it .. .. now it say i need to do  apt-get -f install
[15:35] <he2> hi, how can i add my windows 7 in my grub list?
[15:35] <he2> update-grub does not work
[15:36] <Ayder> Guess there is a bug in xwindows on 12.10 when using dual monitors. Mouse pointer shape gets distorted when it comes just between the two screens.
[15:37] <Ayder> Thought it gnome thing, but replaced the desktop with xfce4 but the same problem exists even
[15:38] <gp5st> hello. i'm sure this is a stupid question. Let's say: I have a computer in a hostile/untrusted environment. How can i make sure the file system isn't modified or replaced by a 3rd party?
[15:39] <TheLordOfTime> gp5st, disable every other boot option in the bios, lock the computer from being opened, encrypt the hard drive, and lock the actual system itself inside a secure area so nobody can access it :p
[15:40] <TheLordOfTime> gp5st, unless someone physically gets access to your computer though its unlikely the filesystem'll be replaced.
[15:40] <TheLordOfTime> as for being "modified" preventing people from booting other media, and preventing people from logging into it is a start.
[15:40] <kishimi8I> quite funny  @TheLord
[15:40]  * TheLordOfTime points to the numerous additional physical-security options such as smart-card required authentication for booting, among other thigns.
[15:40] <gp5st> TheLordOfTime: physical access is my concern (think mall kiosk). I guess it could be kept in a secure box with just some wires coming out of it
[15:41] <TheLordOfTime> gp5st, that'd be a start :P
[15:42] <gp5st> TheLordOfTime: are there commercial boxes/safes available like that?
[15:42] <TheLordOfTime> no clue, since my systems all require either a USB key that I keep on my person or a smart card (also on my person) for booting.  i'm overly secure like that.
[15:43] <DTH0> hello, how do I have a program launch with a particular DE that I select from light-dm ?
[15:44] <dr_willis> DTH0:  Clarify what you mean DTH0
[15:45] <gp5st> like i said this hypothetical computer would be a mall kiosk and i'm debating having it accept credit card details. the more i think about it the more i think the end user should just place their order there and confirm it and enter in credit card details at home
[15:45] <DTH0> I want Docky to launch with my MATE session and not also when I open Unity or GS
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> DTH0  that's not how it works
[15:45] <gp5st> pci is <word(s) that cannot be said in a family friendly channel>
[15:45] <dr_willis> DTH0:  I belive theres some way to set up ~/.config/autostart/ entries for specific desktops  via editing the .desktop file for the entry
[15:46] <dr_willis> DTH0:  the /etc/xdg/autostart/   files may show some examples of doing this. ivbe noticed it for kde and gnome
[15:46] <fourq|cloud> This is the second time my 12.10 installation has lost the ability to connect to the internet. I can connect to routers fine, but no internet access. I read about others having this issue with ubuntu but I have yet to find a solution. Any suggestions??
[15:47] <dr_willis> DTH0:  or you may be able to create your own mate+docky session for the login maanger
[15:48] <DTH0> dr_willis, thanks I'll try digging that though it looks a bit complicated
[15:48] <blackshirt> !find pronzui
[15:48] <blackshirt> !find prozgui
[15:48] <blackshirt> !find gonzui
[15:49] <blackshirt> !info gonzui
[15:52] <blackshirt> what is the best web based source code browser ?
[15:54] <TheLordOfTime> !best | blackshirt
[15:55] <blackshirt> thelordoftime, okey, what do you know ?
[15:55] <TheLordOfTime> blackshirt, that's asking people of their opinions.
[15:56] <arucard> alguien sabe el requerimiento para instalar fedora 17
[15:56] <blackshirt> thelordoftime, no no.. I mean not your opinion about best, but do you know web based source code browser for linux ?
[15:56] <bazhang> arucard, #fedora
[15:57] <TheLordOfTime> blackshirt, you're still asking me my opinion.  if i'm browsing source code, i'm browsing locally, because its usually the case i know what i'm doing and dig around in it.  i don't need to worry ab0out web-based source code browsing.
[15:57] <arucard> esk tengo 1g de memoria lo soportaria
[15:57] <ert3go> Hello , I cannot add bookmarks to left side of nautilus manager..selecting the folder and ctrl+D doesn't work . Bookmarks->add bookmark also fails. Can anyone help ?
[15:57] <TheLordOfTime> blackshirt, which is why i'm not answering your question, rather avoiding it, because i dont have such  a need to know such information
[15:57]  * TheLordOfTime returns to fixing his server.
[15:58] <bazhang> arucard, /join #fedora
[15:58] <blackshirt> thelordoftime, thanks for your time guys
[15:58] <arucard> ok gracias
[16:02] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I'm trying to fix a friend's 12.04 install. It doesn't boot, fails with "Filesystem check or mount" error, fails to drop to a maintenance shell with a segmentation fault. HDD is ok, I think it's from a power failure. I'm running out of options besides reinstall. Recovery mode doesn't work either, I can't access a root shell.
[16:04] <vaequel> Hello guys
[16:04] <vaequel> I've got problem with networkmanager.
[16:04] <vaequel> I'm not albe to connect with WLAN via nm.
[16:05] <graingert> vaequel: what's the error message?
[16:06] <graingert> BlackNarcissus: smells like a reinstall. Can the live usb read the mount?
[16:06] <ert3go>  Hello , I cannot add bookmarks to left side of nautilus manager..selecting the folder and ctrl+D doesn't work . Bookmarks->add bookmark also fails. Can anyone help ?
[16:06] <vaequel> graingert: It asks me for password - Administration password. When I type it - it tells me that there is an error and I'm not albe to connect well.
[16:06] <graingert> vaequel: what error
[16:07] <graingert> vaequel: are you sure it's not asking for your WPA password
[16:07] <BlackNarcissus> graingert: Yes, filesystem mounts ok on live usb, and I did a fsck with gparted, disk utility says HDD and filesystem is ok.
[16:07] <vaequel> graingert: Would you like to get sreenshot?
[16:07] <graingert> vaequel: yup
[16:07] <vaequel> Ok. Wait
[16:07] <ert3go> This is the problem I am facing : https://launchpadlibrarian.net/95004165/trying-to-add-bookmark.ogv
[16:08] <vaequel> I need to relog, wait.
[16:08] <graingert> lolwat vaequel
[16:10] <vaequel> Ok. I'm back.
[16:10] <dr_willis> ert3go:  what release of ubuntu?
[16:10] <golosone> !list
[16:10] <borat> http://i.imgur.com/eNwde.png - here you are.
[16:11] <ert3go> dr_willis, Ubuntu 12.04.1
[16:12] <dr_willis> ert3go:  you havent ran nautilus as root have you in the past?
[16:12] <dr_willis> you could check who owns the files ~/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks
[16:12] <dr_willis> since thats where they seem to be saved here. but i am on 12.10
[16:12] <borat> So....  as you can see it asks about root password
[16:13] <ert3go> dr_willis, run nautilus in root as in ? I doubt I've done that
[16:13] <dr_willis> rw-rw-r-- 1 willis willis 197 Nov 18 11:09 bookmarks
[16:13] <dr_willis> check thta file. make sure its owned by your user. and not 'root root'
[16:16] <kwtm7> My 10.04 LTS won't boot: it said something about not having a boot loader or something; apparently, Grub was corrupted.  I rebooted a month ago with a Grub boot CD but haven't dared reboot since. How do I reinstall Grub so it boots (without CD)? Is it something like "apt-get reinstall grub" or something?
[16:16] <ert3go> dr_willis,  /home/username/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks: No such file or directory
[16:17] <dr_willis> ert3go:  that is odd..  perhaps its in the gtk3 dir
[16:17] <dr_willis> or perhaps the directory is somehow owned by root so you cant write to it
[16:18] <ert3go> dr_willis,  is it same as .gtk-bookmarks ?
[16:20] <dr_willis> ert3go:  look in the file and see whats in it.
[16:20] <dr_willis> see who owns the files.. they should all be owned by your user and not root
[16:20] <ert3go> dr_willis, yeah , it has 1 bookmark which I could do
[16:21] <ert3go>  ls -l .gtk-bookmarks
[16:21] <ert3go> -rw-rw-r-- 1 username username 337 Nov 18 21:24 .gtk-bookmarks
[16:21] <dr_willis> ert3go:  you made a user with the name of 'username' ?
[16:21] <ert3go> I didn't create any user specifically. username = name of my home directory
[16:22] <dr_willis> ;) just checking as long as they match your actual user
[16:22] <ert3go> huh ?
[16:22] <dr_willis> if your users name is  bob, they should be owned by 'bob bob' like mine said 'willis willis'
[16:23] <ert3go> err so , i don't see that file being owned by root...yeah it says 'ert3go ert3go'
[16:24] <dr_willis> im out if ideas then. settings gettong owned by root can cause issues that are a little hard to track down.
[16:24] <dr_willis> make a new user  test to see if it works for them. if SO then that would point to its some setting file on the problem user
[16:25] <dr_willis> if it fails with the newly made user also. that would point to a deeper system issue
[16:25] <ert3go> ;x
[16:25] <ert3go> i tried adding an entry into that file. I don't see new bookmark
[16:27] <sheerun> Hey! I want to install experimental version of znc from here: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/i386/znc/download but I also don't want to add deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian experimental main  to my sources.list because after apt-get upgrade I would install lot of experimental packages. Is there a way to restrict entry in sources.list only to that particular package? (znc). I don't want to download deb files manually.
[16:29] <dr_willis> sheerun:  you could just build it from source
[16:29] <sheerun> dr_willis: No no no. I want to manage it by apt-get
[16:29] <shantorn> sheerun, you can ad the repo install the single file dont do an upgrade and then remove it and do a sudo apt-get update to clear it out
[16:29] <dr_willis> ive done that in the past  and kept it all in my users home.
[16:29] <dr_willis> sheerun:  then you dont want to be adding any debian repositories at all if you want to keep apt happy
[16:29] <dr_willis> or just download the .deb files
[16:29] <sheerun> shantorn: Yes, but later I cannot update that package without uncommenting..
[16:30] <sheerun> Little tedious imho
[16:30] <shantorn> tedious yes, aslo doable
[16:30] <sheerun> dr_willis: I though apt-get install deb packages (it used dpkg underneath)
[16:30] <shantorn> also*
[16:31] <dr_willis> safest would be to get the .deb and install the .deb but then you dont get auto updates/upgrades.. BEST would be find a ubuntu ppa
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> dr_willis, i'm working on PPA-ing it
[16:31] <dr_willis> assuming all the dependencies are met.
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> since TrekWeb runs Ubuntu servers, we're due to upgrade to 1.0, so i have to do the backporting/ppaing
[16:32] <TheLordOfTime> but i have to fix Ubuntu first :/
[16:32] <sheerun> TheLordOfTime: Do you mean znc?
[16:32] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[16:32] <sheerun> Great!
[16:32] <dr_willis> Ive conpiled znc and weechat  in the past - the fact theya re in the repos now makes getting all the needed dev packages much easier
[16:32] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[16:32] <TheLordOfTime> but 1.0's not even out of experimental yet :P
[16:32] <sheerun> Anyway, I'm sad there isn't an universal way to do that
[16:33] <sheerun> I don't want to install deb files manually, because last time I did that I needed to backup everything ;)
[16:33] <dr_willis> sheerun:  that makes no sence.
[16:34] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, i don't have an ETA on it though, since my Ubuntu system can't boot, and is returning Input/Output errors.
[16:34] <dr_willis> IO errors. ;(
[16:34] <sheerun> I had this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies
[16:34] <ert3go> thanks dr_wi
[16:34] <ert3go> thanks dr_willis *
[16:34] <sheerun> But apt-get -f install wanted to remove all packaged from the system
[16:34] <dr_willis> sudo gdebi foo.deb works for me most of the time sheerun
[16:34] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, that's because you only downloaded the one .deb, not the other .debs built by the ZNC source.
[16:35] <sheerun> TheLordOfTime: Is there CLI version of it?
[16:35] <dr_willis> assuming the needed deps are in the repos
[16:35] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, ZNC is CLI...
[16:35] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, you could download and compile the tarball (source code) manually though
[16:35] <sheerun> sry
[16:35] <sheerun> dr_willis: Is there CLI version of it?
[16:35] <dr_willis> I see 7 ZNC packages in the repos.
[16:35] <dr_willis> sheerun:  cli version of what?
[16:35] <sheerun> gdebi
[16:35] <oldman> I can not get my wireless nic to work on 12.10. Lspci sees it as BCM4312. The card is labelled BCM94312.
[16:35] <dr_willis> gdebi is a cli tool...
[16:35] <dr_willis> so yes. ;)
[16:35] <sheerun> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDebi
[16:35] <sheerun> I saw picture on wiki
[16:36] <dr_willis> it has a gui front end also...
[16:36] <sheerun> ok, I'll look into that, thanks :)
[16:37] <blackness> i can use python2 and python3 at the sametime cant i?
[16:37] <sheerun> TheLordOfTime: I mean, how hard is making ppa?
[16:37] <sheerun> is there an automatic way to do that?
[16:37] <blackness> i know i need to set the env python3 to force python3.
[16:37] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, making PPAs is idifficult when moving from debian, i have to change the package a tad, so its not easy
[16:37] <dr_willis> i dont think you just force all python2 apps to use python3
[16:37] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, but i've done it before, its not hard for *me* though
[16:38] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, i never updated this since 0.202, but keep an eye on this: https://launchpad.net/~trekcaptainusa-tw/+archive/znc
[16:38] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, that's where the 1.0 backport'll end up
[16:38] <sheerun> hmm, ok..
[16:38] <TheLordOfTime> sheerun, what OS're you on?
[16:38] <TheLordOfTime> or rather which Ubuntu version
[16:38] <sheerun> 12.04
[16:38] <TheLordOfTime> mmkay you'll know when I know if the thing works :P
[16:39] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/196071/need-to-have-2-versions-of-python
[16:39] <sheerun> heh
[16:43] <yeehi> 12.04 - i try to install gnome-shell, but it says i need icons, which will not be installed as I need repositories. What should I do?
[16:44] <xangua> yeehi: you could show the actual error message in the terminal output
[16:44] <searching> In /usr/share/app-install/desktop/fglrx-driver.desktop say Name=ATI binary X.Org driver
[16:45] <searching> I have Intel
[16:45] <yeehi> thanks xangua - let me try now...
[16:47] <yeehi> xangua: gnome-shell:
[16:47] <yeehi>  Depends: gnome-icon-theme-full but it is not going to be installed
[16:47] <yeehi> gnome-shell: Depends: gnome-icon-theme-full but it is not going to be installed Make sure all repositories are enabled
[16:52] <MoL0ToV> hi boys my webcam don't work i have ubuntu 12.10 http://pastebin.ca/2252730 someone can help me?
[16:54] <hrbrt> hello! i am not really new to burning images but i am confused when downloading latest ubuntu img that its too big for a cdr. so i need to overburn it but this process fails, at least with imgburn (windows). what am i doing wrong? :/
[16:55] <chris8142> hrbrt: the latest Ubuntu doesn't fit on a cd anymore, you need a DVD
[16:55] <yeats> hrbrt: use a usb stick or dvd
[16:56] <hrbrt> ah i see, its "only" 753mb so i thaught it copuld be possible to overburn
[16:57] <ejo> strongly recommend the USB route, it's fast and easy.  It works so nicely that it's even reason enough to buy a USB stick if you don't have one handy.
[16:57] <hrbrt> ok, will checkn the faq opr whatever out on how to do it. got a usb stick here ;)
[16:58] <dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/its-official-the-ubuntu-livecd-is-dead
[16:59] <dr_willis> hrbrt:  this is handy also. can have more then one iso on a usb   http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[17:01] <Guest3995> hallo?
[17:01] <Guest3995> ich bräuchte dringend hilfe beim bau von einem modul
[17:02] <lollko> pls speak english :)
[17:02] <DJones> !de | Guest3995
[17:02] <sheerun> Is that bot?
[17:03] <DJones> sheerun: Yes, ubottu is a bot
[17:03] <sheerun> Where is the list of commands I can use?
[17:03] <DJones> !bot | sheerun
[17:03] <sheerun> thanks :)
[17:05] <sheerun> Btw. I have made a bot, but free node has banned my server because of it (too much output). Do you know how much time I must wait for an un-ban? I've sent an email to the support..
[17:05] <jrib> sheerun: ask #freenode
[17:05] <DJones> sheerun: Best thing to do would be to ask in #freenode
[17:05] <sheerun> kk, thank you
[17:06] <kamahak> hello
[17:07] <pinchweldy> quit
[17:09] <lapion> non-pae kernels where art thou...
[17:12] <Guest54470> hello, wonder if anyone can help: I have an intel i5 with integrated intel hd graphics card. some native linux games only display about 3rd of the screen whilst others are fine, anyone have any idea?
[17:14] <MoL0ToV> someone can help me with webcam? http://www.pastebin.ca/2252738
[17:23] <ispain> hola
[17:24] <ispain> hola a todos
[17:24] <ispain> soy nuevo de aki
[17:24] <ispain> algun espA
[17:25] <dr_willis> !es
[17:29] <lapion> I have a system with a 1GHz transmeta, however there are no non-pae kernels in the generic repository available anymore.
[17:34] <OerHeks> lapion,  there is a non-pea build iso > http://people.canonical.com/~diwic/12.04-nonpae/
[17:40] <MoL0ToV> hi boys my webcam don't work i have ubuntu 12.10 http://pastebin.ca/2252730 someone can help me?
[17:46] <BlackNarcissus> Hey everyone. I'm installing 12.04 and it seems the installer is stuck on ext3 file system creation...
[17:47] <Evil_Eric> start over
[17:47] <rgngl> Hi folks, does anybody have a clue about my NFS problem, I described here: http://superuser.com/questions/507274/nfs-share-access-permission-denied/507291#507291
[17:48] <laurant> Hey everyone. i've got a problem with my Ubuntu 12.10. I can't login to my Administrator account. when i login it instantly logout. anyone a solution?
[17:49] <escott> laurant, what do you mean by "administrator account"
[17:49] <laurant> superuser account
[17:49] <escott> laurant, do you mean "root"
[17:49] <laurant> nopr
[17:49] <laurant> *nope
[17:50] <laurant> the only account i can go on is the Guest account
[17:50] <laurant> but i can't burn a Install disk from it
[17:50] <escott> laurant, did you ever "sudo some-gui-application"
[17:51] <laurant> i don't think so.
[17:51] <laurant> but i cant use 'sudo' from a guest account
[17:51] <escott> laurant, well check that root doesn't own ~/.Xauthority for the affected account
[17:51] <escott> laurant, ctrl-alt-f1 to login from console
[17:52] <laurant> Can i use that from 'guest' ?
[17:52] <escott> laurant, you won't be able to diagnose or fix anything from guest
[17:53] <ofcan> hi guys! how to give specific user rights to be able to create directories in /var/www ?
[17:53] <escott> ofcan, usermod -a -G www username
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> isnt it www-data?
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> depending on what user is the owner of /var/www
[17:53] <ofcan> TheLordOfTime: root is
[17:54] <escott> ofcan, generally you want files in /var/www owned by some proxy for the webserver... www or www-data or the like
[17:54] <laurant> i did use "sudo chown <user> /var/www"
[17:54] <laurant> for that
[17:54] <escott> ofcan, at least with respect to the group. the file ownercould be root
[17:55] <laurant> it makes you the owner of it
[17:55] <laurant> I do not recommend to use it on anything else!!!
[17:55] <escott> laurant, he doesn't need/want anyone to be owner of it. its the group that is important
[17:55] <delac> anyone know if it is possible to open dconf-editor as gdm?
[17:56] <escott> delac, gksudo -u gdm dconf-editor
[17:56] <ofcan> escott: so I just write > usermod -a -G /var/www deployer
[17:56] <ofcan> escott: ?
[17:56] <trism> delac: use gsettings overrides if you want to change settings for gdm
[17:56] <escott> !permissions | ofcan i suggest you read this to understand how permissions work
[17:57] <Domain> Greetings all.
[17:57] <escott> ofcan, you want to add deployer to the group that owns /var/www
[17:57] <escott> ofcan, but that group should NOT be root. it should be www or www-data
[17:57] <escott> laurant, what is ls -l /home/laurant/.Xauthority?
[17:58] <laurant> ?
[17:58] <Domain> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.  How can I lock my display settings?  If often reverts to a lesser resolution.
[17:58] <delac> escott: does not work. "cannot open display: :0"
[17:58] <n0ah[]> My Ubuntu (12.04) no longer has a GUI. This happened after installing updates.
[17:58] <delac> trism: you dont think using dconf is good idea?
[17:58] <n0ah[]> I have Unity.
[17:59] <ofcan> escott: oh, ok! so with thhat command you said, I am adding my user to the www group?
[17:59] <Domain> *takes a number and waits in line*  :)
[17:59] <trism> delac: not when the settings can be overwritten when gdm is updated
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: was this caused by upgrades to the same release, or did you upgrade from Lucid or Oneiric?
[17:59] <escott> laurant, im getting back to your question. you need to ctrl-alt-f1 then login as your normal user, and then find the XAuthority file (if you use lightdm it is ~/.Xauthority or the like, gdm puts it in /run/username/auth-*/database
[17:59] <n0ah[]> Same release.
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[17:59] <laurant> the problem is i can login
[17:59] <ofcan> escott: and since I am deploying on VPS and everything is preety much on defaults, www should be configured properly?
[17:59] <laurant> *can't
[17:59] <n0ah[]> I'm not sure what you mean.
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: what video chip do you use?
[18:00] <escott> ofcan, you can xauth +localhost then run the gksudo command and xauth -localhost... maybe... not sure if that last xauth will break X.
[18:00] <n0ah[]> Nvidia Gforce
[18:00] <Pr0B0t> can some1 help me to run Ubuntu ?
[18:00] <trism> delac: http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/gsettings-override-2011-07-04-15-45 and check out the schema at /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.login-screen.gschema.xml
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: and did you install the extra drivers?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Pr0B0t: with details, preferably on one line. Maybe
[18:00] <escott> laurant, you cannot login from console?
[18:00] <delac> trism: they do? shouldn't dconf settings stick even on updates?
[18:00] <n0ah[]> I'm not sure, the only thing I saw in the update were updates for Transmission, and come C++ libraries.
[18:00] <n0ah[]> some*
[18:01] <trism> delac: the dconf database is in the gdm package
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: do you get the login screen when you boot?
[18:01] <n0ah[]> I know I have a beta driver installed for my video card though, but didn't have problems before.
[18:01] <n0ah[]> Yes.
[18:01] <n0ah[]> I'm on Irssi right now as we speak.
[18:01] <trism> delac: dpkg -L gdm | grep /var/lib/gdm/
[18:01] <trism> delac: sorry I take that back
 when i rub it it start loading desktop and then pic freez and run some GPU loading and failed load channel 2  failed to load channel 3....
[18:01] <Pr0B0t> run*
[18:02] <trism> delac: but anyway, you can lose the settings, better to use overrides
[18:02] <Pr0B0t> and restart i forgot that
[18:02] <n0ah[]> Trying to run Unity from the line causes an error saying it can't display on :0.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: when the screen loads. Press CTRL+ALT+F1 and run:   sudo  apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep nvidia | grep -v nvidia-common | awk {'print $2'}`
[18:02] <delac> trism: well, gues I do that then. thanks!
[18:02] <n0ah[]> Okay, I'll be right back. Let me run those.
[18:03] <blackness> what is the best way to get what driver your wifi pci card is using?
[18:03] <escott> ofcan, yes and presumably, but i dont know what the actual owner of /var/www is. you need to find that out with ls -l
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> blackness: there is no single best way
[18:03] <blackness> ok, how would i find it?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> blackness: sudo lshw -C network    is one way
[18:04] <blackness> ok
[18:04] <bekks> blackness: lspci -k
[18:04] <blackness> i dont know why i didnt think of lshw -C network
[18:04] <blackness> atk5k :P
[18:05] <blackness> ath5k *
[18:05] <ofcan> escott: I got this upon running that command you suggested > usermod: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later. < what does this mean?
[18:05] <ofcan> escott: root is the owner, btw
[18:05] <LyzardKing> Any news on the support for wayland?
[18:06] <escott> ofcan, the group is the important bit. i keep saying owner when i really mean group
[18:06] <BlackNarcissus> Hey everyone. When installing 12.04, the installer is either stuck on or take a very long time to create an ext3 filesystem for /home. Messages in "Details" give "Asking for cache date: failed", "Assuming drive cache: write through"
[18:06] <ofcan> escott: root is the name of the group :)
[18:07] <blackness> how would i set my wifi password if it contains special chars? example: passwORD!@#$%^&*() ?
[18:07] <escott> ofcan, and you should not put deployer in group root. so you chould change that with chgrp
[18:07] <blackness> wpa_passphrase="PASSWORD!@#$%^&*()" or do i have to escape them?
[18:08] <miniCruzer> I get this message every time I boot the computer, maybe 3 or 4 times: http://screencloud.net/v/vn9o
[18:08] <n0ah[]> Hi, I ran those commands. It prompted me to uninstall the current video drivers I had, I assume, and I did.
[18:08] <escott> blackness, use ' not " to avoid having to escape all that junk
[18:08] <ofcan> escott: deployer is in sudo group. that is ok?
[18:09] <n0ah[]> Should I try restarting and see if the GUI now works?
[18:09] <escott> ofcan, being in sudo group is different from being in root group
[18:09] <blackness> so: wpa_passphrase='password!@#$%^&*()' ?
[18:10] <n0ah[]> ActionParsnip: You therE?
[18:10] <n0ah[]> there*
[18:10] <escott> blackness, give it a try. if that is interpreted by BASH it will come through cleanly
[18:10] <ofcan> escott: ok, so now how to make that deployer be able to mkdir in /var/www ? I ran the command you suggested, but I got that 'try again later error'...
[18:11] <escott> ofcan, have you read the !permissions page. you are setting up a server so it is very important that you understand the permission model
[18:12] <BlackNarcissus> Hey everyone. When installing 12.04, the installer is either stuck on or take a very long time to create an ext3 filesystem for /home. Messages in "Details" give "Asking for cache date: failed", "Assuming drive cache: write through". Disk utility says the HDD is ok. I'm puzzled.
[18:12] <Pr0B0t> how to fix this when i run ubuntu it start loading then background stop loading and i can move just mouse and then this   http://i45.tinypic.com/ld0na.jpg   and then comp restart
[18:12] <sas641> anyone from china?
[18:12] <escott> !cn | sas641
[18:13] <n0ah[]> Can anyone help me? My GUI for my Ubuntu 12.04 has gone after installing updates. I was just advised to remove my video card drivers, so I did, and was wondering what I should do next.
[18:14] <BlackNarcissus> n0ah[]: What's your graphic card ? Does the system boot, at least on a command line ?
[18:14] <n0ah[]> Yes, it boots on a command line. Logging in normally will allow me to run commands. It uses a Nvidia graphics card.
[18:15] <escott> ofcan, if you understand the permission model then looking at ls -l /etc/passwd should make clear why your usermod command is not working
[18:15] <n0ah[]> I had beta testing drivers installed before, without problem. I assume I have no drivers as of now.
[18:15] <Domain> Hello
[18:16] <n0ah[]> BlackNarcissus: Did you get my response?
[18:16] <sas641> http://www.dropbox.com/sh/ysntqjuqjzh0jap/goDDKPk6gG#/
[18:16] <BlackNarcissus> n0ah[]: I don't know what your problem was but you can try to reinstall your drivers if you're comfortable with the command line. Drivers for Nvidia are nvidia-current.
[18:17] <sas641> what is the name of this dress?
[18:17] <n0ah[]> Thanks, let me try that and see if Unity works then.
[18:17] <n0ah[]> I'll be right back.
[18:17] <Domain> Hi
[18:17] <n0ah[]> That'll be "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" correct?
[18:17] <BlackNarcissus> n0ah[]: Yes, but did you enable a PPA to have the beta drivers ?
[18:17] <auronandace> !ot | sas641
[18:18] <n0ah[]> No, they were just in the additional driver update popup that came up.
[18:18] <ofcan> escott: ok, reading what you suggested as we speak. thank you. sorry for being lazy btw
[18:18] <Jezmajian> Hello
[18:18] <BlackNarcissus> n0ah[]: Oh, ok. Then you can try running that command and restarting.
[18:18] <n0ah[]> Alright, thanks. Be right back.
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: did you remove the nvidia driver using CLI?
[18:19] <escott> ofcan, its ok, but at some point you have to read the stuff, and setting up a server is one of those points
[18:19] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: He said he did, but didn't know what to do next.
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: thanks
[18:20] <Domain> Hi
[18:21] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: You're welcome. I didn't know what his problem was before, but I told him to try to install current drivers.
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: no screen after login, remove the proprietary driver then reinstall can help
[18:23] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: Well, I wasn't wrong then. Good. :)
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: always a good thing :)
[18:23] <BlackNarcissus> When installing 12.04, the installer is either stuck on or take a very long time to create an ext3 filesystem for /home. Messages give "Asking for cache date: failed", "Assuming drive cache: write through". Disk utility says the HDD is ok. I'm puzzled.
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: if you are using a CD, did you burn it as slowly as possible and not with the default Windows CD burner
[18:26] <EXORCIST> I HAVE TROUBLE WITH MY CAPS LOCK
[18:26] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: Yes, and it worked several times on that PC and others. I also tried USB live and LiveCD, but both gives the same results.
[18:26] <EXORCIST> I THINK MY CAPS STOPPED WORKING BECAOUSE OF UBUNTU.
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: do you get web access in liveCD?
[18:26] <bekks> EXORCIST: Press caps lock again.
[18:26] <thelinux> BlackNarcissus: What seems to be the problem?
[18:26] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: Yes
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> EXORCIST: only in Ubuntu. An OS cannot change your hardware
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: did you upgrade ubiquity and gparted before kicking off the installation?
[18:27] <EXORCIST> THEN WHY MY CAPS LOCK AND MOUSE 2 STOPPED WORKING?
[18:27] <BlackNarcissus> thelinux: Installer is stuck on ext3 filesystem creation.
[18:27] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: I will try that.
[18:28] <Steve^> If your caps lock got stuck, I imagine it would be quite hard to find help
[18:29] <thelinux> EX0RCIST: Are you trolling?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: gone
[18:30] <n0ah[]> Great news: the GUI is now working on my PC, but one problem. Entering in my password, (which I'm certain is correct), causes a black screen to flash with some text, which looks like the screen for gdm and then goes back to the login screen./
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gparted ubiquity
[18:30] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: Good.
[18:30] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: Yes, I'm booting from USB right now :) Will try that. Thanks.
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: drop to cli and log in and run:  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[18:31] <n0ah[]> cli?
[18:32] <lollko> command line interface
[18:32] <n0ah[]> ah okay.
[18:32] <blablabla> !list
[18:32] <needhelp1> hey, I have some home videos on dvd that have no encrption, what would be the best and easiest way to copy these, dvd to dvd, iso to iso so that I can reburn them?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: there is no single best way
[18:33] <needhelp1> any ideas?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: I would use devede and you can add each video as a chapter on a DVD ISO, you can then burn it to a DVD media
[18:33] <dougl> so there are no mouse trails available in ubuntu?
[18:33] <dougl> no option I could install?
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: the more videos you add, the more you will need to reduce quality to make it fit, so add 3 or 4 to each (unless they are already small)
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: its not the 'best way' as a 'best way' doesn't exist, on any OS. This is just one possible way you can do it
[18:36] <n0ah[]> I got input/output errors when trying to do that command.
[18:36] <n0ah[]> should that of happened?
[18:37] <escott> n0ah[], sounds like the disk is going bad
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: sounds like you need to fsck the partitin
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> *partition
[18:38] <n0ah[]> Can you give me some help on how I would do that?
[18:38] <n0ah[]> Would reinstalling Ubuntu solve it?
[18:38] <bekks> n0ah[]: No.
[18:38] <n0ah[]> Ah, okay.
[18:39] <needhelp1> is there a way i can just copy the iso exactly as it already is ActionParsnip ?
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: if you have an ISO then just burn it, slowly
[18:40] <needhelp1> i want to copy the dvd to ISO, no iso yet
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: just boot to the liveCD and check the file system, no need to reinstall.
[18:40] <n0ah[]> Is there a command I should run while booted from the Live CD?
[18:40] <devral> hi. trying to assign static ip; can ping everything by IP, but dns resolution fails
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: not sure there.
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> devral: how did you set the static IP?
[18:41] <devral> through /etc/network/interfaces. I have dns-nameservers set to the router's IP address, but don't know what to assign to dns-search as I am not on a domain
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> n0ah[]: fsck    read the man page
[18:41] <escott> devral, sounds like you didnt set a nameserver
[18:41] <n0ah[]> Gotcha, thanks.
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> devral: run:    echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base > /dev/null
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> devral: also run:     echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> devral: then you should be able to run:     sudo apt-get update
[18:45] <John76> Hello I get an error when I try to mirror displays
[18:46] <devral> ActionParsnip: that works for resolving external IPs; however, I can't ping any internal PCs by name still
[18:47] <escott> devral, is your router configured to offer DNS
[18:47] <John76> Why can't I mirror displays at 1080?
[18:48] <John76> highest resolution is  1280x1240 4:3
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> devral: you could add your router as a nameserver in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> John76: what release? what video chip?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> John76: details
[18:48] <escott> John76, perhaps one of the displays doesn't run at 1080
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> John76: how can you expect an intelligent reply from zero details......?
[18:49] <flyinprogramer> alright, woke up this morning, and my ext4 filesystem was in read-only mode, i rebooted, started a clean, and it claims 8 inodes are containing multiply-claimed blocks, and this seems to be associated with only two files on the disk, it then goes on to say it can't find the dup_blk…. i know filesystems are complex, and i probably have failing disks… that said though, is there away to just delete those two files and clean 
[18:49] <flyinprogramer> filesystem ?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> devral: run:    echo "nameserver 192.168.0.1" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base > /dev/null
[18:50] <John76> http://i.imgur.com/pqEyM.png ActionParsnip
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> devral: assuming 192.168.0.1 is your router
[18:50] <John76> 32MB or 64MB ATI Radeon X300
[18:50] <bekks> flyinprogramer: Did you run fsck -f ?
[18:50] <escott> flyinprogramer, fsck -p will suggest fixes
[18:50] <John76> I've done this fine on Lubuntu but I can't on Ubuntu for some reason
[18:51] <flyinprogramer> bekks: escott i just did fsck /drive
[18:51] <Guest74034> is there a way to activate drivers in terminal?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> John76: run:    sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a         please pastebin the output at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[18:51] <flyinprogramer> bekks: escott and it seems to be auto-cleaning ?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest74034: for what video chip?
[18:51] <devral> ActionParsnip: that got it. thanks :D
[18:51] <bekks> flyinprogramer: fsck is not fsck -f and not fsck -p
[18:51] <Guest74034> the wireless driver
[18:51] <flyinprogramer> bekks: -- alright i can stop it and try those
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> devral: no worries :). You aren't getting nameservers via DHCP, so you need to set those too
[18:51] <bekks> flyinprogramer: Dont interrupt it :)
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest74034: is it a broadcom?
[18:52] <Guest74034> yes
[18:52] <Guest74034> it is
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Guest74034
[18:52] <Guest74034> thanks
[18:52] <devral> hm, I've rebooted the server and it seems to wait an awfully long time at "Waiting for network configuration..." -- is there a service I need to disable?
[18:53] <Ray2> Noisy hard drive..I have 2 hd one 80gb the other 250gb...80gb smart test shows bad sectors..250gb shows healthy disc...regardless of which o/s on which hd I am using noisy continues...any other test to determine which drive is failing ??
[18:53] <John76> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1368356/ ActionParsnip
[18:53] <escott> !info smartctl | Ray2
[18:53] <escott> !info smartmon-tools | Ray2
[18:53] <bekks> Ray2: The 80gb is failing. You just wrote it yourself.
[18:53] <escott> !info smartmontools | Ray2
[18:54] <escott> stupid bot
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> John76: so, why did you not mention you are running an ATI Radeon X300 and using Precise in your initial question?
[18:54] <MoL0ToV> hi boys my webcam don't work i have ubuntu 12.10 http://pastebin.ca/2252730 someone can help me?
[18:54] <Ray2> escott lucid 10.04 lts
 32MB or 64MB ATI Radeon X300
[18:54] <cwbarnes> Hi all, please help!  I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 xfce, changed some toolbar settings now I boot into a blank desktop in which the compiz cube is functioning but there is no taskbar, I can't right click, alt+f1 doesn't bring me to a terminal, i can only rotate the cube!! please help a noob fix his install
[18:54] <escott> Ray2, same package name
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> John76: initial question......
[18:55] <pikaciu> alt+f2
[18:55] <John76> because i thought it would be a simple fix
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> John76: in future, please give FULL details. It makes things so much faster as we don't have to ask for basic details
[18:55] <John76> will do
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> John76: does the system have a make and model?
[18:56] <cwbarnes> can someone please help me restore a functional desktop? would be greatly appreciated
[18:56] <John76> IBM Thinkpad R52
[18:56] <John76> It doesn't have an LCD screen if that's worth noting
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> cwbarnes: try installing xfce4
[18:56] <ofcan> escott: ok, read it and changed the group wich owns /var/www to www-data group. now need to add the user deployer to that group, right? how to do that? the command you suggested (with usermod) doesn't work...
[18:57] <cwbarnes> @Actionparsnip m8 I am in a bind, I dont have any functionality on the desktop i can only spin the cube, termincal wont work, i can do alt+F1 etc and only see a blinking cursor, i cant right click on the desktop
[18:58] <pikaciu> cwbarnes: the command alt+f2 doesn't work ?
[18:58] <escott> ofcan, usermod needs to modify files in /etc (in particular passwd and groups) both owned by root. so you need sudo usermod -a -G www-data deployer
[18:58] <escott> ofcan, if just anyone could add themselves to a group that would kinda defeat it as a security feature
[18:58] <cwbarnes> @pikaciu it doesn't do anything, i can only spin the desktop cube, and its at a lower resolution
[18:59] <cwbarnes> @pkachiu this is true for both desktop environments i can log into, both xfce and ubuntustudio
[18:59] <nr_double> hallos. I'm having an odd issue with DNS I believe. I have intermittent network connectivity issues over both wired and wireless that none of my windows machines are experiencing. Comcast here has an automatic DNS of 75.75.75.75. I tried using auto-DHCP settings and trying to force my dns to 4.2.2.2... but these both have the same issue. Any ideas?
[18:59] <cwbarnes> im running nvidia 310 drivers, w compiz cube, it was working perfectly and i changed a setting on the taskbar?? any thoughts m8s :/
[19:00] <cwbarnes> any thoughts friends?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> cwbarnes: in a terminal, run:   sudo apt-get install xfce4      log off and log in to the XFCE session
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> John76: http://mathema.tician.de/hardware/r52    may help
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> John76: if the display isn't reporting correctly then you may need an xorg.conf file to make it ok (assuming the screen and ATI chip can show HD).
[19:01] <ofcan> escott: I need write permissions to be able to create new files and folders inside a folder, right?
[19:01] <John76> Maybe I didn't use that resolution
[19:02] <nr_double> Also, if I open the wireless manager, it still shows my dns as 75.75.75.75 even though I set it to 4.2.2.2... I think this may be the source of the problem?
[19:02] <John76> So it most likely doesn't natively support 16:9 ActionParsnip
[19:02] <John76> it's from 2004.
[19:03] <pikaciu> cwbarnes: can you enter the system with fluxbox or other enviroments ?
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> John76: not sure, check your spec online
[19:03] <walterwoj> I have set up a key on my server, how do I get the key from the server to the client though ssh?
[19:03] <Night-hacks> is it any other way to consider a file type except "$file filename" ?
[19:03] <Xard> okay, i have a scenario where i'm trying to get xen working under 12.04 amd64 ubuntu and i'm using xen-hypervisor-4.1-amd64. If i try to boot on any xen kernels the boot sequence will totally freeze after couple of entries under "(XEN) Xen-e801 RAM map:" with (usable) memory ranges without any errors anywhere
[19:04] <bdi_> hmmm ubuntu desktop 12.10 64 bit does not fit into a normal CD?
[19:04] <John76> No results other than ads ActionParsnip :/
[19:04] <John76> Resolution: XGA (1024x768)
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> John76: then you may need to use an xorg.conf file
[19:05] <John76> XGA	1024	768	4:3	0.786
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> John76: what monitor / TV are you using?
[19:06] <John76> Westinghouse 24 inch
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> John76: is it a L2410NM ?
[19:07] <nr_double> hallos. I'm having an odd issue with DNS I believe. I have intermittent network connectivity issues over both wired and wireless that none of my windows machines are experiencing. Comcast here has an automatic DNS of 75.75.75.75. I tried using auto-DHCP settings and trying to force my dns to 4.2.2.2... but these both have the same issue. Any ideas?
[19:07] <nr_double> Also, if I open the wireless manager, it still shows my dns as 75.75.75.75 even though I set it to 4.2.2.2... I think this may be the source of the problem?
[19:07] <John76> EW24T7EW
[19:08] <John76> ActionParsnip, EW24T7EW is the model
[19:08] <gordonjcp> John76: phew, thought that was an errant password for a moment there
[19:08] <nr_double> If I try to save a manual config in the wirless manager, the save button is greyed out?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> John76: thats what I wanted the first time.....
[19:08] <John76> yeah sorry ;/
[19:08] <bdi_> blaaaah
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> John76: dude, when anyone asks you for some information, give as FULL and complete information as you can
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> John76: seriously
[19:10] <John76> im sorry ;_;
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> John76: can you see why I'm saying this?
[19:11] <John76> yes
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> John76: I'd have a go at the xorg.conf, looks like the display isn't doing what it should do
[19:12] <nr_double> no takers? :(
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> nr_double: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[19:13] <John76> thanks anyway ActionParsnip but i dont know how to do that
[19:14] <t432> how would you restart from hibernation? power switch?
[19:14] <t432> anyone?
[19:15] <bekks> t432: Just power on your computer again.
[19:15] <Steve^> that's how most computers do it, yes
[19:15] <t432> ok
[19:16] <nr_double> ActionPartnership: quantal
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> nr_double: try unticking 'available to all users'.
[19:20] <TommehM> I am getting this error when attempting to run redeclipse on ubuntu 10.04, Unable to create OpenGL screen: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[19:22] <nr_double> ok, i got it to save, but it says my dns is still the 75.x comcast dns
[19:23] <bdi_> why is my usb disk opened in read only mode? i need to write to it.
[19:23] <escott> bdi_, what is the output of "mount"
[19:24] <bdi_> escott: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1270977591
[19:24] <xbskid-> So I'm trying to install 12.10 off a USB drive on my desktop. I've got two disks in RAID0, configured using the motherboard utility. During setup, I selected the correct /dev/mapper device I wanted grub installed to, but thrice now I've ended up with 'Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed.' / 'This is a fatal error.'
[19:25] <xbskid-> That's not the device I told the installer to put grub on!
[19:25] <escott> xbskid-, you can't put grub on /deb/mapper
[19:25] <xbskid-> escott: Then it shouldn't let me select the damn thing. :P
[19:27] <escott> bdi_, and /media/9D.... doesn't work
[19:28] <bdi_> escott: yeah
[19:28] <xbskid-> escott: I have the W7 boot loader configured to boot to the /dev/mapper device, but it dumps me at a grub> prompt, and since I don't quite know how Ubuntu's grub config is set up, the best I can do is end up at an (initramfs) prompt.
[19:28] <escott> xbskid-, in RAID0 you will need a /boot outside the array
[19:28] <t432> Does that "suspend" button in power menue stand for hibernate?
[19:28] <escott> !fakeraid | xbskid-
[19:29] <escott> bdi_, wht does "touch /media/9D[TAB]/test output
[19:29] <xbskid-> And here I thought Ubuntu was easy.
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: it is
[19:29] <gordonjcp> xbskid-: it is, right up until the point where you start doing deeply weird stuff like dual-booting softraid
[19:30] <escott> xbskid-, fakeraid is junk. you are better off disabling it
[19:30] <bdi_> escott: touch: cannot touch `/media/9D28-8A4E/test': Read-only file system
[19:30] <xbskid-> escott: It's a bit late to be switching off it.
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> escott: oh god yes, whomever invented fakeraid needs shooting
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> escott: and wubi
[19:30] <chaospsychex> can someone help me to change the channel on my wireless device eth1 ?
[19:30] <chaospsychex> i tried 'sudo iwconfig eth1 channel 14' to no avail
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: it detects the channel used by the router
[19:31] <chaospsychex> ActionParsnip: how can i connect to the router on a different channel
[19:31] <escott> bdi_, hmmm
[19:31] <chaospsychex> ActionParsnip: i would have to change the channel on the router ?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: its detected when you scan for networks
[19:31] <gordonjcp> chaospsychex: yup
[19:31] <MoL0ToV> chaospsychex, you must change the wifi router config
[19:31] <xbskid-> Grub can boot the kernel, so obviously -something- works.
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: yes, change the router, reboot it and then scan for networks, the channel will be detected
[19:32] <chaospsychex> ActionParsnip: would interference cause wifi signal strength fluctuations and loss of connectivity when putting eth1 under load ?
[19:32] <MoL0ToV> is possible
[19:32] <chaospsychex> i've tried different wireless adapters and even different ap's and still experience this problem
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: the router doesn't switch channels because a client starts using a different channel, it doesn't work like that
[19:32] <chaospsychex> oddly enough, i experience this problem only when using *nix
[19:32] <bdi_> escott: but why is it read only?
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: are there a lot of networks in the same channel
[19:33] <escott> bdi_, can you "ls -l /media/9D[TAB]
[19:33] <chaospsychex> ActionParsnip: no
[19:33] <escott> bdi_, rather can you "ls -al /media/9D[TAB]
[19:33] <bdi_> escott: sure
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: then find out your wifi chip and check for known issues. In some cases it helps to disable n speed
[19:34] <nikolam> hi. If I use Btrfs-tools from PPA on 12.04 LTS (Philip Muskavac repo) will I burn on eternal unsupported fire with my LTS in next 2 years?
[19:34] <MoL0ToV> chaospsychex, remember that wifi channel are 14, but if you for example use channel 7 and interferences are on channel 8, also channel 7 is affected
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: what is the output of:   sudo lshw -C network
[19:34] <nikolam> LTS btrfs-tools are too old for raid1 conversion to run
[19:35] <oversize> hi, is there a channel where i could get help using testdisk to recover my data from a usb harddisk? i can see the data, but i can not copy them (no space) cant i just "apply" the found partitions? It does not work for me and i dont know why ...
[19:35] <escott> nikolam, you probably weren't going to get much butter fs support anyways
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[19:35] <bdi_> escott: ?
[19:35] <nikolam> escott, that is because I need to convert RAID0 (made after adding device) to RAID1 Btrfs.
[19:35] <escott> bdi_, ??
[19:36] <escott> nikolam, requires kernel support not tools
[19:36] <escott> nikolam, i believe
[19:36] <nikolam> aha, to even if I upgrade from PPA, it will not convert Btrfs to RAID1...
[19:36] <nikolam> I need upgrade to 12.10...
[19:36] <MoL0ToV> oversize, what means that you cannot copy them?
[19:37] <nikolam> and to follow regular release wagon.
[19:37] <oversize> MoL0ToV it seems incredibly slow and its about 200G
[19:37] <bdi_> escott: why is it ro?
[19:37] <escott> nikolam, i believe so, check in #btrfs
[19:37] <chaospsychex> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1368465/
[19:37] <MoL0ToV> oversize, dmesg what say? there are errors releted to disk?
[19:38] <escott> bdi_, if i knew i would tell you. thats why i want to see the ls -al output
[19:38] <bdi_> escott: ahh ok
[19:38] <oversize> MoL0ToV yes ... (its on other pc so cant copy)   "Buffer IO error on device sdc"
[19:38] <escott> bdi_, a few other things to check. you might remove and insert the usb stick and then run "dmesg | tail -n 20"
[19:39] <oversize> MoL0ToV  testdisk lists  partitions and files fine though
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: seems you are using the wired, or is that because of the shaky wifi?
[19:39] <bdi_> escott: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/602715220
[19:39] <MoL0ToV> oversize, you can try do use dd_rescue to make a bit a bit image to another position, then try to mount with loop option
[19:40] <ejo> Hello... in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades I have the line: Prompt=lts  ... but when I ssh into this machine, the first message I receive in my ssh session is "New release '12.10' available."  How can I avoid that message?
[19:40] <chaospsychex> ActionParsnip: because of shaky wifi
[19:40] <ejo> I thought it would not be giving that message unless I had Prompt=normal.
[19:40] <escott> bdi_, input/output error. its a bad usb stick or it needs to be fscked
[19:40] <oversize> MoL0ToV ddrescue  will make "the whole thing" image? i mean if there is 500G data  it will be a 500G image?
[19:40] <bdi_> escott: fscked?
[19:41] <escott> bdi_, you can "sudo umount /media/9D[TAB]; sudo fsck /dev/sdb1"
[19:41] <MoL0ToV> oversize, no, if your disk is 200GB the image is 200GB also if only 10MB of data is present
[19:41] <oversize> MoL0ToV ubuntu says i would have to go to win and run checkntfs (or so) but in windows i only get to "formath hd?"
[19:41] <oversize> its a 1000G usb drive and i dont have enough space for that 8(
[19:42] <MoL0ToV> is ntfs?
[19:42] <oversize> yes
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: have you tried blacklisting the driver, see if something else gets loaded at boot?
[19:42] <chaospsychex> ActionParsnip: no
[19:43] <cwbarnes> I'd like to send a shout out to ActionParsnip and pikacui for their expert assitance heping me to restore my desktop environment!  THANK YOU may you live long and prosper!!!!!
[19:43] <cwbarnes> I'd like to send a shout out to ActionParsnip and pikacui for their expert assitance heping me to restore my desktop environment!  THANK YOU may you live long and prosper!!!!!
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> cwbarnes: yay :)
[19:43] <MoL0ToV> you can try fsck.ntfs in ubuntu
[19:43] <gustav__> Is Wayland still going to be the default display server?
[19:43] <MoL0ToV> oversize, you can try fsck.ntfs in ubuntu
[19:43] <bdi_> escott: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/899252519
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> gustav__: it's not in Raring :)
[19:44] <oversize> MoL0ToV thats what dmesg says: http://dpaste.com/832991/
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: worth a try
[19:44] <gustav__> ActionParsnip: Good...
[19:44] <escott> bdi_, given that its a USB stick you shouldn't have anything important on it. i would just nuke it and create a new liveUSB
[19:44] <gustav__> Wayland looks like some retarded game API.
[19:45] <MoL0ToV> oversize, you can try fsck.ntfs , and then try to mount
[19:45] <bdi_> escott: yeah...but how
[19:45] <MoL0ToV> if don't work the only thing to do is use dd_rescue , ask friends for a disk of 1TB
[19:45] <oversize> MoL0ToV thanks, i will, do you know what package is fsck.ntfs in?
[19:46] <oversize> i only have fsck.nfs
[19:46] <MoL0ToV> i think ntfs-3g
[19:46] <MoL0ToV> or something like
[19:47] <ejo> Anyone know why my server is mentioning 12.10 is an available new release even though I set "Prompt=lts" in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades?  Is it just normal that new releases are mentioned when you ssh into a machine in spite of the setting in that file?
[19:48] <SwedeMike> ejo: no, that is not normal.
[19:49] <escott> !info usb-creator-gtk | bdi_
[19:49] <ejo> SwedeMike: thank you... additional info = I just upgraded the machine in question from 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 and then rebooted.  I have not done anything else.  The contents of /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades are just the original/default contents.
[19:49] <ejo> Any suggestion what I ought to do?
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> ejo: does server make noises about new releases even though it's CLI....
[19:50] <SwedeMike> ejo: could be it's some kind of left-over from when it thought you wanted to upgrade to new releases, and when you changed to lts only it didn't update the login banner.
[19:50] <SwedeMike> ejo: well, don't do anything.
[19:50] <cuddylier> Why even when I type 'iptables -A INPUT -j DROP -p tcp --destination-port 25565 -i eth1:2' is that port still available on that IP?
[19:50] <ejo> yeah, it's not like it really matters, I'm the only one who logs into this machine (it's my virtual server instance)
[19:51] <cuddylier> My Ips are: http://pastebin.com/7nwfFrHa
[19:51] <ejo> I don't think I will go sleep-walking and "accidentally" upgrade it to non-lts xD
[19:53] <bdi_> escott: heh well i tried that ages ago as the first thing :) that did not work which is why i asked the question
[19:53] <alinmear> hi all! is there a way to map multiple sound devices on the fly using alsa without pulseaudio
[19:53] <cuddylier> Why even when I type 'iptables -A INPUT -j DROP -p tcp --destination-port 25565 -i eth1:2' is that port still available on that IP? My Ips are: http://pastebin.com/7nwfFrHa
[19:54] <bdi_> escott: ahh erase disk first
[19:54] <bdi_> that worked
[19:56] <Basic> alsamixer
[19:57] <Basic> open up your terminal and open alsa mixer
[19:58] <gustav__> Ubuntu support is bad. You're not flexible. There's some feedback for you.
[20:00] <bekks> gustav__: you could participate to make it better then :)
[20:00] <cuddylier> When using IP tables and I want to block the IP on e.g. 'eth1:2' how do I do that? It doesn't seem to work..
[20:00] <alinmear> Basic: what about alsamixer
[20:00] <gustav__> bekks: Yep.
[20:01] <trism> ejo: did you just change it back from prompt=normal? the results are cached in /var/lib/update-notifier/release-upgrade-available so that's probably why you are still seeing it
[20:01] <devral> how do I install java so I can run a minecraft server?
[20:01] <jrib> !java | devral
[20:02] <bonhoeffer> how can i see the storage space available on usb drives i have connected?
[20:02] <bekks> bonhoeffer: df -h
[20:02] <jrib> bonhoeffer: if they are mounted, do df -h
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> devral: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[20:02] <bonhoeffer> jrib, bekks -- awesome!
[20:03] <ejo> trism: Ah yes, ok.  Thanks.  Yes, yesterday before I performed the upgrade I had changed it to Prompt=normal. Then the upgrade itself resulted in it being changed back to Prompt=lts (I guess the default).
[20:03] <sedataym> hi
[20:03] <ejo> trism: So I suppose maybe that cached notification will change on its own eventually?
[20:04] <ejo> trism: or could I safely just clear the contents of /var/lib/update-notifier/release-upgrade-available?
[20:04] <xbskid-> ...Well, uh, I'm not sure what's going on, but I chrooted into my new install from the liveusb environment and ran update-grub. Grub successfully loaded, and let me boot ubuntu, but I don't have any video signal :P
[20:04] <xbskid-> Damn thing probably didn't bother installing video drivers.
[20:05] <trism> ejo: yes, you can remove that file and run: sudo /var/lib/update-manager/release-upgrade-motd; and it will be regenerated (and should be empty)
[20:05] <Gnea> xbskid-: it typically won't do that automatically, depending on the video subsystem.
[20:05] <trism> ejo: it should fix itself on its own eventually though
[20:05] <xbskid-> Gnea: It's an ATI 4870 X2.
[20:06] <xbskid-> I just did Alt+Ctrl+F1 and I have a blinking cursor, but no prompt
[20:06] <xbskid-> THERE WE GO
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: are you running quantal?
[20:06] <xbskid-> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[20:06] <Gnea> xbskid-: well, don't get me started on the merits of Nvidia. ;-)  Did you try to manually install the drivers through the system menu?
[20:06] <xbskid-> 'The disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present.'
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal.html
[20:07] <xbskid-> Gnea: I haven't been able to log in yet. :P
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: ati 4xxx GPUs don't do well with the XOrg in Quantal, so you need the legacy driver, that PPA makes life easier
[20:07] <Gnea> xbskid-: Oh.  Why did you setup an encrypted system?
[20:07] <xbskid-> Gnea: ...I only chose to encrypt my home folder!
[20:08] <Gnea> xbskid-: okay.  Did you just go through the steps or did you follow a guide to make sure that everything happens as it should?
[20:08]  * ActionParsnip wishes Oracle had faster upload speeds
[20:09] <xbskid-> Gnea: No, I didn't follow any guide. I took the idiot's path and just ran the installer.
[20:09] <escott> xbskid-, when you encrypt home it encrypts swap as well
[20:09] <Gnea> xbskid-: okay, and is this 12.04 or 12.10?
[20:09] <xbskid-> Gnea: 12.10
[20:12] <Gnea> xbskid-: Do you recall if, during the installation, you made /home a separate partition to be encrypted or included in the root filesystem?
[20:12] <xbskid-> Gnea: Only two partitions; swap and root. >.>
[20:13] <xbskid-> I'll just run through the installer again and -not- encrypt my home folder. :]
[20:13] <xbskid-> Fourth time's the charm
[20:13] <Gnea> heh
[20:14] <bonhoeffer> i can't get access to my usb external drive: cd:cd:10: permission denied: /media/New Volume
[20:14] <xbskid-> Not to mention every time I boot the live environment I have to create an .Xmodmap file for my mouse.
[20:14] <bonhoeffer> any troubleshooting options?
[20:14] <Gnea> xbskid-: that could be part of the problem... if it isn't asking for the passphrase at bootup to load /home, then maybe having it on its own partition would be helpful... or not encrypting it at all would avoid the whole issue lol
[20:15] <alexGla> guys, i m using ubuntu 10 at this seems to be not supported anymore. Which most stable version you d recommend to upgrade to?
[20:15] <Gnea> !lts | alexGla
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: there is no Ubuntu 10
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: there is 10.04 (Lucid) and 10.10 (Maverick)
[20:16] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: 10.04 / 10.10 comprises Ubuntu 10
[20:16] <alexGla> sorry i mean 10.04 Lucid
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: yes but one is supported, one is not. So it is significant
[20:16] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: That's true, but that's more of a general perspective than anything else
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: Lucid is still supported on the desktop til April next year. I would do a clean install of Precise and enjot support til April 2017 :)
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: yes, but you can't run 'Ubuntu 10'...Would it be a dual boot of both?
[20:17] <Gnea> Precise is pretty nice.... until it decides to not allow a scanner to work :P
[20:17] <xbskid-> Does Rhythmbox or whatever it's called do gapless playback?
[20:18] <alexGla> thanks ActionParsnip
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> alexGla: do a clean install and restore userdata from backup :)
[20:18] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: That's a misunderstanding - '10' is just referring to the major version, not the minor version.  It's like saying "Oh I run Linux Kernel 2.6, not 3.2" You don't really care about the minor version at that point.
[20:18] <alexGla> ActionParsnip, well, i don't know how to do this :\
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: true but the version is significant, so saying Ubuntu 10 isn't detailed enough, it also names 2 releases which you cannot single boot
[20:19] <Gnea> alexGla: well you could take the upgrade path to 12.04 from 10.04 or you could take the suggestion to do a clean install
[20:20] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: Yes, but it does provide a starting point. :-)
[20:20] <alexGla> Gnea, clean means formating file systems and installing from scratch ?
[20:20] <Gnea> alexGla: basically.
[20:20] <xangua> Gnea: ooh he is using 10.04, no 10.10 so no :) two digits make a big diference
[20:20] <xangua> he is using 10.10, no 10.04*
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: true :D
[20:21] <Gnea> xangua: it doesn't make much of a difference in this case, we know he's using 10.04 ;)
[20:21] <John76> Hello, why is that when I try to use my second monitor the Gnome panel disappears
[20:22] <pranavk> I want to turn off the netbios name service for my node in my LAN, how do i do it ?
[20:22] <John76> How do I make everything stay in frontal view when switching from 4:3 to 16:9
[20:22] <Gnea> pranavk: well that's controlled by Samba
[20:23] <Gnea> alexGla: do you have the ability to boot from usb flash?
[20:23] <cuddylier> How do I unblock a port on eth1:3
[20:23] <Gnea> cuddylier: how did you block in the first place?
[20:24] <cuddylier> Gnea I can't remember :S
[20:24] <Gnea> cuddylier: well that is going to make finding a solution pretty difficult :P
[20:24] <cuddylier> Gnea How do I view all iptable entries?
[20:24] <cuddylier> I could check there
[20:24] <John76> ActionParsnip, since you know my details can you help me
[20:25] <alexGla> Gnea, i have my ubuntu set up in windows. But i haven't got OS on usb flash
[20:25] <Gnea> cuddylier: well iptables -nvL  should do that, or you could install ufw
[20:25] <Gnea> !ufw | cuddylier
[20:25] <pranavk> Gnea: would turning off my smbd would work ?
[20:25] <John76> Why is it that only when I choose Mirrored display/1024x768 4:3 that I can see the gnome panels and workspace  properly
[20:25] <Gnea> alexGla: oh, you're using wubi?
[20:25] <Gnea> pranavk: sure
[20:25] <alexGla> Gnea, i am considering to upgrade to 12.04.1 from Update Manager
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> John76: I only have an xorg.conf for single screen systems
[20:26] <John76> Why is this complicated though?
[20:26] <cuddylier> Once I have found the entry, how do I allow it again?
[20:26] <Gnea> John76: I don't think gnome panel has the ability to stretch between 2 or more desktops
[20:26] <Gnea> John76: because of gnome.
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> John76: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dual+head+xorg.conf    may help
[20:26] <alexGla> Gnea, i think yes. I have installed OS from windows and it basically on my windows OS. I need to use both OSs
[20:26] <John76> Well I mean why when I switch to16:9 everything is out of view
[20:26] <John76> Instead of just lining up
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: I believe the issue is resolution on the external screen
[20:26] <Gnea> cuddylier: gufw makes that easy
[20:27] <John76> I don't want another X session on the monitor. I just want to use this monitor as the main and only output and at 1080p
[20:27] <Gnea> alexGla: okay, well you could free up space on your hdd to boot both natively, rather than relying on windows for ubuntu
[20:27] <John76> It shouldn't be complicated. I've done it on my other laptop and it's 'automatic'
[20:28] <Gnea> John76: well it's going to do that if your monitor is a 4:3 monitor
[20:28] <John76> It's not
[20:28] <John76> My 'monitor' which is a TV is a 16:9 1080p HD TV
[20:28] <Gnea> ah
[20:28] <John76> I'm saying that only 4:3 works with Gnome
[20:28] <kristenbb> hi, I've changed my OS to 12.04, and I copied the /home directory from the old system to the new one. But when I try to launch a virtual machine (windows 7) from virtualbox, I get an error saying: "the image file /usr/share/virtualbox/vboxguestadditions.iso is inaccessible and is being ignored." What can I do to solve this error ?
[20:29] <John76> Any other resolution or aspect ratio and it just disappears
[20:29] <alexGla> Gnea, yes, i had split my hdd for both win and linux but it was on my last machine
[20:29] <Gnea> John76: what about the mouse cursor? does it show up on the second display?
[20:29] <John76> Yeah
[20:29] <John76> And the wallpaper
[20:29] <John76> Everything but the workspace/gnome panel etc
[20:29] <John76> It's there but it's ALL THE WAY at the bottom/top
[20:29] <Gnea> John76: Then it's working the way that the Gnome people designed it to work.
[20:29] <John76> Like it's zoomed out..
[20:30] <John76> Zoomed in anyway
[20:30] <alexGla> Gnea, is 12.04 version quick? i don't really want all this fancy user interface updates they made in latests versions
[20:30] <John76> I don't understand Gnea
[20:30] <Gnea> alexGla: well they changed the base GUI from Gnome to Unity. If you have a slow machine, it's not much of an upgrade as far as speed goes
[20:30] <dr_willis> alexGla:  use lubuntu if you want minimal eyecandy
[20:30] <Gnea> alexGla: Bodhi Linux would probably be decent enough
[20:31] <Gnea> John76: Gnome was made to fit in a box, so to speak... they didn't design it to be too extensible with all of these newer devices
[20:32] <alexGla> cheers guys. I have enough of rams on my machine, just all this looks to me Mac like updates
[20:32] <cuddylier> Why does the IP in eth1:3 not work when I have these as Iptables? http://puu.sh/1rGub
[20:32] <Xard> sigh, this is really getting old... i've tried to follow many guides including this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen to get xen going but it just doesn't seem to get past first stages of booting
[20:32] <Gnea> John76: the same thing happens if I hook a CRT monitor up to a laptop - the second display will have the wallpaper and I can drag windows over to it and it works... I just don't have any menus or icons over there
[20:32] <ikonia> debug it then
[20:33] <Gnea> John76: the only way to 'stretch' everything from the original display to the new display is to use something called xinerama
[20:33] <ben1u> hello, how can I change the notify duration in ubuntu 12.04?
[20:33] <Gnea> !xinerama | John76
[20:34] <danielboston26> ben1u: what doe you mean?
[20:34] <nrik> hi
[20:34] <nrik> is anybody here?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> nrik: nobody
[20:34] <nrik> thanks
[20:34] <danielboston26> yes nrik
[20:35] <danielboston26> what do you need help with nrik?
[20:35] <noah> boom
[20:35] <ben1u> danielboston26: ich mean NotifyOSD
[20:35] <Gnea> cuddylier: well t hat doesn't show anything about what's on eth1:3, other than the fact that it's allowed. does the IP on eth1:3 match up with one of the subnets that it's connected to physically?
[20:35] <Atlantic777> I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but firstly I have to deal with partitions. I've got some troubles with "try me without installing". Everything seems to work until I choose that option. After that, I get just desktop and cursor.
[20:35] <Atlantic777> No errors in tty, and tty is working.
[20:35] <nrik> coud you help me write some bash script with integration with Gnome3/Unity statuses?
[20:35] <Atlantic777> What could be wrong?
[20:35] <cuddylier> Gnea This IP worked until 1 hour ago when it suddently stopped letting connections in..
[20:36] <danielboston26> Atlantic777: that is suppose to happen
[20:36] <Gnea> cuddylier: then the problem sounds like it's on another part of the network
[20:36] <xbskid-> Where do I configure grub's timeout?
[20:36] <danielboston26> Atlantic777: your trying ubuntu without installing it
[20:36] <cuddylier> Ah...So it may be my host?
[20:36] <nrik> I mean, when script running show process to notification bar, like it was with zenity
[20:36] <Gnea> cuddylier: right.
[20:36] <xbskid-> I'm not used to grub.conf being split up into a pile of smaller files
[20:36] <Gnea> xbskid-: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:36] <Atlantic777> danielboston26: and... what are you trying to say? :)
[20:36] <danielboston26> Atlantic777: if you want to install ubuntu onto your system then you need to select the install option
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> ben1u: use at your own risk: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/finally-easy-way-to-customize-notify.html
[20:37] <xbskid-> Gnea: That's an auto-generated file. :P
[20:37] <Atlantic777> danielboston26: hey, I want gparted firstly! :D
[20:37] <Gnea> xbskid-: and?
[20:37] <ben1u> ActionParsnip: thx
[20:37] <xbskid-> Gnea: And I'd rather update the configuration used to generate that file. :P
[20:37] <danielboston26> Atlantic777: you need to install ubuntu
[20:37] <danielboston26> Atlantic777: then install gparted
[20:38] <xbskid-> Gnea: Found it; /etc/default/grub
[20:38] <Atlantic777> danielboston26: no, I'm pretty sure I don't _need_ to install it firstly. Gparted is included in the live session.
[20:38] <Gnea> xbskid-: yup
[20:38] <Atlantic777> danielboston26: I have troubless with starting ubuntu live sessions.
[20:38] <danielboston26> Atlantic777: ok so what issue are you having?
[20:38] <Atlantic777> danielboston26: live session wount start. I'm stuck with background and pointer.
[20:39] <juniour> fuck
[20:39] <Gnea> danielboston26, Atlantic777: gparted works without installing the OS first.
[20:39] <Atlantic777> Gnea: yeah, I know. :)
[20:39] <Gnea> !language | juniour
[20:39] <xbskid-> THERE. Let's see if it doesn't break again
[20:39] <danielboston26> Atlantic777: there may be an issue with your video driver
[20:39] <danielboston26> Atlantic777: do you have a nvidia card?
[20:40] <Atlantic777> danielboston26: no, it's a radeon card.
[20:40] <Atlantic777> danielboston26: i don't think that it's a kms related problem. (nomodeset and stuff)
[20:40] <kristenbb> hi, I've changed my OS to 12.04, and I copied the /home directory from the old system to the new one. But when I try to launch a virtual machine (windows 7) from virtualbox, I get an error saying: "the image file /usr/share/virtualbox/vboxguestadditions.iso is inaccessible and is being ignored." What can I do to solve this error ?
[20:40] <xbskid-> :D
[20:40] <xbskid-> Boot success!
[20:40] <Gnea> xbskid-: awesome
[20:40] <danielboston26> Atlantic777: hmmm idk if ati has open source drivers
[20:40] <xbskid-> Now if I could just figure out why the hell I don't  get any video unless I change terminals...
[20:40] <ikonia> kristenbb investigate why it can't access it
[20:40] <yugnip> anyone try netflix on 12.10? works well - http://i.imgur.com/hfw8O.png
[20:41] <Gnea> kristenbb: did you remember to install the virtualbox packages from apt?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: in the powered down virtual system, check the config and eject the ISO you have set as the optical drive
[20:41] <juniour> sorry guys checking the intelligence of ubottu
[20:41] <bekks> kristenbb: Remove the virtualbox installation, and use the official installation package from www.virtualbox.org
[20:41] <danielboston26> Atlantic777: people usually have issues with nvidia because their drivers are not open source so they are not included in linux distros
[20:41] <juniour> phuck
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> bekks: its just the VM config
[20:41] <Atlantic777> danielboston26: it has, the radeon dirvers. Proprietary are fglrx. But... I think that t's something other.
[20:41] <kristenbb> Gnea: on which system, do I need to install it on the guest ?
[20:41] <Atlantic777> danielboston26: erm, nvidia has open source drivers, too. Nouveau...
[20:41] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Actually he is missing the ISO, since it isnt provided by the repackaged vbox from Ubuntu.
[20:42] <atari314> Hello, does anyone know why the kernel is waiting 15s (dmesg: http://pastebin.com/4r2AhGg4 )? I've blacklisted my ethernet module on a previous test, but it's still waiting 10s for something.
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> bekks: yes, but if you have a VM with the ISO set as the optical drive at boot and it isn't present you will get the error
[20:42] <Gnea> kristenbb: well it needs to be installed on the system that you're going to run virtualbox from
[20:42] <John76> Thanks Gnea I was AFK, checking it out now
[20:42] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[20:42] <juniour> hi
[20:43] <Gnea> John76: cheers
[20:43] <SiDi> hi people. im using notify osd under an arch distro and somehow at some point i ended up with green background notifications... and i found this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/notifyosd-to-use-same-colour-as-dash.html now im wondering exactly what the behavior of notify osd is meant to be on ubuntu, whether it actually arbitrarily changes colors
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> bekks: so just set the optical drive to not have that iSO mounted at startup and the error goes
[20:43] <juniour> sorry guys
[20:43] <kristenbb> Gnea: oh, didn't know that. so which package should I use ? there are many with a similar name
[20:43] <kristenbb> Gnea: virtualbox-guest-additions , virtualbox-guest-additions-iso, ...
[20:44] <Gnea> kristenbb: well if you look through the list at the descriptions and read them, you should be able to make an educated decision.
[20:44] <juniour> sorry guys just checking the intelligence of ubottu working on artificial intelligence
[20:44] <juniour> project
[20:44] <ikonia> juniour: do you have a question or are you just going to say random words ?
[20:44] <kristenbb> Gnea: how can I get a description?
[20:44] <John76> gnea this is a lot of work? im new to linux
[20:44] <juniour> ikonia random words
[20:44] <ikonia> juniour: then stop
[20:44] <juniour> i cant
[20:44] <xbskid-> The only thing I don't like about Ubuntu so far (And this may apply to other desktop distros) is that I find the resize areas on the window chrome to be razor thin.
[20:44] <John76> or can i just steal his xorg conf Gnea
[20:44] <Gnea> kristenbb: well if you make your terminal take up the whole screen, then type: apt-cache search virtualbox, you will automatically see them
[20:44] <bendym> kristenbb: or go to www.oracle.com and download the non-free (although zero cost!) vendor packages
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: did you unmount the ISO from the VM?>
[20:45] <cuddylier> Gnea It wasn't my host :(
[20:45] <cuddylier> Anyone have any idea why all ports are blocked on eth1:3? Here are my IP tables: http://puu.sh/1rGOA
[20:45] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: I don't think your answer is related to my question. I don't have a problem loading the virtual machine, the system loads, it's not a iso. My problem is rather about the guest additions
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: did you use the menu in the top of the running VM?
[20:46] <SiDi> hi people. im using notify osd under an arch distro and somehow at some point i ended up with green background notifications... and i found this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/notifyosd-to-use-same-colour-as-dash.html now im wondering exactly what the behavior of notify osd is meant to be on ubuntu, whether it actually arbitrarily changes colors
[20:46] <octocpp> Is there a way to make my cpu fan go full speed? It will not speed up and i keep overheating?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> SiDi: arch isn't supported here
[20:47] <octocpp> I dont have and pwm controls to use pwmconfig and fancontol apps
[20:47] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: I didn't use anything so far, I just started it, after having copied .virtualbox from my old home system to the new system
[20:47] <SiDi> ActionParsnip: Im asking about the behavior of canonical supported software on a canonical supported distro
[20:47] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: and this message appeared
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: what OS is the VM?
[20:47] <kristenbb> ActionParsnip: windows 7
[20:47] <serunu> recently i had to reboot headless server and  my external usb HD's where not mounting so i 'mount /dev/sdc /media/usb1' 'mount /dev/sdb /media/usb2' and so on. now when i have to reboot today all HD's mount to their original name, 'mobile' 'my book' and so on. all i want is to have them mount to same place regardles so apps that look in /media/usb1 can find it without me changing setting back to /media/my book. help please
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> SiDi: how are canonical supported distros anything to do with Arch?
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> kristenbb: http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers/2008/virtualbox-install-guest-additions.jpg
[20:48] <cuddylier> How do I clear my IP tables?
[20:48] <SiDi> ActionParsnip: try and read my question until the end please: im asking whether, on ubuntu, notify osd changes color from the original dark grey one, because im trying to understand why it does in my case
[20:48] <jrib> cuddylier: sudo iptables -F
[20:48] <ikonia> cuddylier: or you using iptables or the ufw interface ?
[20:48] <cuddylier> iptables in ssh
[20:49] <cuddylier> ikonia
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> SiDi: may help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD
[20:50] <Gnea> !iptables | cuddylier
[20:50] <Gnea> cuddylier: see that second URL, it will tell you all you need to know.
[20:50] <cuddylier> Yeah, clearing iptables worked :D
[20:51] <SiDi> ActionParsnip: thanks. from experience this wiki page has been rarely maintained though :)
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> SiDi: the fact is, you said you are using arch, so we cannot possibly support you, there are lots of possibly missing configs
[20:52] <cuddylier> Gnea None of that documentation states what to do if you have multiple ports
[20:52] <atari314> Hello, does anyone know why the kernel is waiting 15s (dmesg: http://pastebin.com/4r2AhGg4 )? I've blacklisted my ethernet module on a previous test, but it's still waiting 10s for something.
[20:54] <SiDi> ActionParsnip: yeah i know. im just trying to understand what the default behaviour is to find out why it changed. obviously i didnt setup unity and didnt modify notify osd specific files, so that means the daemon reads some other config files from other software components. which i dont think is good
[20:54] <cuddylier> 'iptables -A INPUT -j DROP -p tcp --destination-port 25565 -i eth1' blocks all my IPs and ports...
[20:54] <cuddylier> Why on earth would it do that
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> SiDi: could try http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/finally-easy-way-to-customize-notify.html
[20:55] <xbskid-> So, since my install is a little bit of a hack-job, how can I get the instant messaging icons on the right-hand side of the menu bar?
[20:55] <xbskid-> All I have are Network, Sound, Time, and the system Gear.
[20:56] <trism> xbskid-: indicator-messages, but it will hide itself if no apps are using it (using pidgin on 12.10?)
[20:56] <SiDi> ActionParsnip: thanks. ill probably replace it with a patched version indeed. one last thing, do you know whats the channel/team name/bug tracker of the usability people in canonical now? i have serious concerns about text on green bgs regardless of whether using arch or ubuntu :-)
[20:56] <xbskid-> trism: I was thinking about using Epiphany, or whatever it's called; I can't remember. :)
[20:57] <xbskid-> Empathy!
[20:57] <trism> xbskid-: empathy should be there, make sure telepathy-indicator is installed
[20:57] <xbskid-> trism: It's installed; where do I look to see if it's enabled? O.o
[20:57] <Flannel> SiDi: launchpad is the bug tracker, I think that first wikipage is probably your best bet for finding what mailing lists/irc channels/whatever the people involved live in.
[20:58]  * xbskid- reboots
[20:58] <SiDi> Flannel: thanks, ill try and track them down
[20:58] <trism> xbskid-: should autostart with the session
[20:59] <KurtKraut> I have an Ubuntu Server in 12.04 LTS and I want to upgrade it to 12.10. But by default it seem to only recognize other LTS releases as upgradable. How can I make do-release-upgrade upgrade the Ubuntu Server to the latest release, even if it is not LTS?
[20:59] <ben1u> ActionParsnip: this is better for 12.04 in ralation to NotifyOSD: https://launchpad.net/~leolik/+archive/leolik/?field.series_filter=precise
[20:59] <ben1u> :-)
[20:59] <xbskid-> :D After installing fglrx-legacy, I get video on boot!
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> ben1u: same difference :)
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: yes, the xorg version in Quantal hates 2xxx to 4xxxx
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: so the ppa is needed
[21:00] <xbskid-> ActionParsnip: Yup; followed those instructions; very handy.
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: now when you see others asking, you can relay the same info ;)
[21:00] <SiDi> ActionParsnip: for the record https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/935659
[21:01] <dr_willis> KurtKraut:  theres some option to do-release-upgrade   try do-reelase-upgrade --help
[21:01] <Evil_Eric> i/me waves in ActionParsnip's gemeral drection
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> hi Evil_Eric
[21:01] <Evil_Eric> hello hello
[21:01] <xbskid-> And now I'm having problems with my mouse. :(
[21:01] <walterwoj1> i need to install the rsync deamon on the computer i am backing up or the one I am backing up to?
[21:02] <Evil_Eric> hows your day ActionParsnip
[21:02] <KurtKraut> dr_willis, no, do-release-upgrade doesn't have that as a parameter. I just found I have to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades - thanks for giving it a shot.
[21:02] <walterwoj1> * do i?
[21:02] <semitone1> Hey, I'd like to know what happens when you install ubuntu overtop an original ubuntu install -- does it save the home folder?
[21:03] <Evil_Eric> it shouldnt
[21:03] <ikonia> semitone1: if you tell it to format - it will do just that, if you tell it not to, it won't
[21:03] <blackness> http://blackness.sytes.net:8181/6f2cce6c-31c3-11e2-bd11-57b90c80384b wireless doesnt work unless i use gnome-network-manager, this is my interfaces file..any ideas?
[21:03] <flyinprogramer> bekks:  fsck -p claims "unexpected inconsistency run fsck manually"  ---  are there any shortcuts to getting it to just delete the two files that are giving me issues… because i really don't care about them…
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> Evil_Eric: not bad really, you?
[21:04] <IdleOne> semitone1: you can tell it to format or not by selecting the manual partitioning when you get to that step of installation.
[21:04] <Evil_Eric> ActionParsnip, just relaxing and slowly moving back into ubuntu 12.04
[21:04] <IdleOne> !ot
[21:04] <blackness> any ideas?
[21:05] <semitone1> Thanks -- the reason I ask is because my ubuntu installation is broken in a few ways -- I was wondering if installing lubuntu on top of it (but not formatting) could correct things like non-graphical boot
[21:05] <semitone1> and clear out cruft in general
[21:05] <xbskid-> Doesn't Ubuntu One use something in the notification area?
[21:06] <nr_double> any ideas on why my wifi doesn't show inside of virtualbox? It works fine on Ubuntu. I'm running Win 7 inside of a virtual box from Ubuntu
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Evil_Eric: rocking Raring here ;)
[21:06] <serunu> recently i had to reboot headless server and  my external usb HD's where not mounting so i 'mount /dev/sdc /media/usb1' 'mount /dev/sdb /media/usb2' and so on. now when i have to reboot today all HD's mount to their original name, 'mobile' 'my book' and so on. all i want is to have them mount to same place regardles so apps that look in /media/usb1 can find it without me changing setting back to /media/my book. help please
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> serunu: you can use /etc/fstab  you can control where and how it mounts
[21:08] <guntbert> nr_double: wifi never shows up within virtual box - you must bridge one virtual ethernet interface to it - further support in #vbox :)
[21:09] <blackness> welp, i gotta run, later taters ;)
[21:09] <nr_double> thanks guntbert
[21:10] <serunu> ActionParsnip: thanks, i will look into that.
[21:10] <TommehM> I keep getting this error when trying to boot minecraft, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1368722/
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> TommehM: what is the output of:    java -version
[21:12] <TommehM> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1368729/
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> TommehM: tried the oracle java?
[21:13] <TommehM> ActionParsnip, Yes.
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> TommehM: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer       like that?
[21:13] <TommehM> Yes.
[21:13] <TommehM> It has the same error.
[21:14] <xbskid-> How can I configure horizontal scroll with my mouse? :)
[21:14] <whitehat> hello evry bady
[21:14] <Guest44748> I've tried to use these instructions to get my tablet working but the forum keeps saying I don't have permission to view any of the files attached. What do I do? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4972622
[21:15] <Flannel> Guest44748: I think if you log in to the forum you'll be able to.  But you should ask in #ubuntuforums
[21:15] <Guest44748> Flannel: Thanks
[21:16] <ColdRush>  Can someone help me with activating trim in my fstab?  I'm not familiar with the format and really want to make sure it's correct
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: what make and model mouse?
[21:16] <kenny__> hello
[21:16] <xbskid-> ActionParsnip: Cyborg RAT 7.
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: why was that not in the initial question?
[21:17] <xbskid-> ActionParsnip: :P I am unsure.
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: in future, please give as many details as possible  :)
[21:18] <xbskid-> I figured there'd be a generic map for "This button does this action"
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: http://fcns.eu/2011/04/01/cyborg-rat-7-mouse-under-linux/
[21:18] <xbskid-> ActionParsnip: Okay. :) I have a .Xmodmap file configured to ignore buttons 13-15 on the mouse; horizontal scroll wheel is 16 and 17.
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1661126
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: http://matt-linux-log.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/saitek-cyborg-rat-in-linux.html
[21:19] <xbskid-> ActionParsnip: Thank you
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cyborg+rat+7+horizontal+scroll+linux     is all I used......
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: nothing smart, or technical
[21:20] <xbskid-> ActionParsnip: :P
[21:20] <diverdude> is it somehow possible to make an overview over how much space different types of files take up in a dir and its subdirs? Like create a file-type space distribution in dir A ?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: did you try that?
[21:21] <xbskid-> ActionParsnip: A while ago. Came up with about six different sites with the same info, and then I looked at Ubuntu and realized there's no single Xorg.conf
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: you don't have one by default, if you make one it will be obeyed
[21:22] <xbskid-> ActionParsnip: Does it completely override the existing config, or is it just supplimental?
[21:23] <Xard> okay, it seems that i know the root of the problem with my xen booting issue: uefi boot & too old xen
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: depends on what you add
[21:24] <ColdRush> Is this the proper way to enable trim in my fstab? http://pastebin.com/GuD9Lc05
[21:25] <escott> ColdRush, yes
[21:25] <ColdRush> Thanks escott
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> !trim
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> wishful thinking
[21:25] <ColdRush> Does that check if it's working?
[21:26] <ColdRush> ActionParsnip what is !trim
[21:26] <ColdRush> Is that some irc bot function?
[21:27] <escott> !bot
[21:27] <ColdRush> Oh I see.
[21:27] <ColdRush> Thanks.
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> ColdRush: i tried to get ubottu to give a factoid about trim but she doesn't have one
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> http://techgage.com/article/enabling_and_testing_ssd_trim_support_under_linux/   ColdRush
[21:27] <vl4kn0> Hello, I just installed ubuntu as a dualboot with windows and I need to configure grub to let me choose between windows and ubuntu, how is that done?
[21:27] <hume> hi - i logged out of my usual kubuntu desktop and into Ubuntu, and was presented a desktop with no window manager, I cannot even do Alt+F2 to start a program - and the machine is set to autologin - how do I get out of this and back to Kubuntu?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> vl4kn0: that's default behaviour
[21:28] <ColdRush> Escott / ActionParsnip  Would you be able to help me map my media keys?  I'm on a CR-48 and the guides out there don't work
[21:28] <hume> or how can I get Compiz or some window manager to run?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | ColdRush
[21:28] <vl4kn0> ActionParsnip: I didn't choose the "Install ubuntu alongside windows" option as that option was not available
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> vl4kn0: if you run:   sudo fdisk -l     do you see an NTFS partition?
[21:28] <t4nk> Hello everyone
[21:29] <t4nk> I'm beginning to understand the c programming language but I have a question, is anyone here experienced with c?
[21:30] <diverdude> this gives me total amount of lines of a specific filetype: find . -iname '*.m' | wc -l  How do i get total size of a specific filetype?
[21:30] <guntbert> t4nk: ask in ##c please
[21:30] <t4nk> o.k.
[21:30] <escott> diverdude, du could get you each files size and you could then pipe that to awk to sum it up
[21:31] <vl4kn0> ActionParsnip: fdisk -l gives me weird message about not supporting UUID, but ubuntu disk utility shows the NTFS partition
[21:31] <escott> diverdude, find . -iname '*.m' -exec du | gawk '{sum += $1} END {print sum}'
[21:32] <vl4kn0> ActionParsnip: not UUID, GTP
[21:32] <vl4kn0> GPT
[21:32] <diverdude> escott: find: missing argument to `-exec'
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> vl4kn0: that's good
[21:32] <escott> diverdude, -exec du {} \;
[21:33] <diverdude> escott:  find . -iname '*.m' -exec du | gawk '{sum += $1} END {print sum}' {} \;
[21:33] <diverdude> gawk: cmd. line:1: fatal: cannot open file `{}' for reading (No such file or directory)
[21:33] <escott> diverdude, -exec du {} \; |
[21:34] <escott> diverdude, find . -iname '*.m' -exec du {} \; | gawk '{sum += $1} END {print sum}'
[21:34] <oldgettingsomewh> hello
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> hi oldgettingsomewh
[21:34] <oldgettingsomewh> i need some help with terminal
[21:35] <oldgettingsomewh> im useing airmon-ng and the propper command doesent allow activation of monitor mode
[21:36] <oldgettingsomewh> it stays in managed mode
[21:36] <diverdude> escott: ahh ok nice...and that come out in byte?
[21:36] <escott> diverdude, man du
[21:36] <L3top> find . -iname '*.m' -exec ls -la {} \; | awk '{print $5}'
[21:36] <L3top> diverdude: ^
[21:37] <escott> diverdude, but yes i believe that is in bytes
[21:37] <diverdude> L3top: does that do the same?
[21:37] <Evil_Eric> hmmm netflix + linux ='s 1 step closer
[21:38] <diverdude> ahh
[21:39] <oldgettingsomewh> can anyone provide some insight here?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> !info airmon-ng
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> oldgettingsomewh: its not an Ubuntu package.....
[21:40] <dr_willis> Evil_Eric:  i will belive it when i actually see it. ;)
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> oldgettingsomewh: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[21:41] <dr_willis> oldgettingsomewh:  some drivers may not support managed mode for some network cards i belive.
[21:41] <Evil_Eric> dr_willis gimme a few im installing the desktop app now
[21:41] <oldgettingsomewh> where to get help for this issue on irc? #aircrack is invite only do you know how to get a invite to a channel?
[21:41] <diverdude> escott: hmm are you sure this one creates a sum: find . -iname '*.hips' -exec du {} \; | gawk '{sum += $1} END {print sum}'    it seems more like it takes the size of only one of the files
[21:42] <oldgettingsomewh> dr_willis it worked ok before like 4 days ago
[21:42] <escott> diverdude, yes
[21:43] <oldgettingsomewh> ActionParsnip um what is  lsb_release -sc
[21:43] <Evil_Eric> dose anyone have a netflix account i can use for like 30 min max as i wanna test a ubuntu app out
[21:43] <ikonia> no
[21:43] <ikonia> please don't ask for that
[21:45] <VlanX> Anyone with ubuntu uses a BluRay drive to burn data ?
[21:46] <blablablat> !list
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> oldgettingsomewh: its a terminal command
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning#Blu-Ray_Burning    seems you need nero4linux
[21:51] <dr_willis> Evil_Eric:  it does seem to work.
[21:51] <oldgettingsomewh> ActionParsnip its lucid
[21:51] <Xabster> I'm trying linuxcnc based on ubuntu - it does not see my HDD during installation from a CD... are there anything I should know?
[21:52] <Evil_Eric> yes it seams to work but its full screen and no way to minimize it
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> oldgettingsomewh: you are using an app thats not from the repos
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> !find airmon
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> oldgettingsomewh: is it aircrack-ng?
[21:52] <dr_willis> Evil_Eric:  the web site says use F11
[21:53] <Evil_Eric> derp
[21:53] <Evil_Eric> lmao
[21:53] <oldgettingsomewh> this aircrack is part of the os i use standard yep aircrack-ng is standard with my particular os
[21:53] <Evil_Eric> thanks for the heads up dr_willis
[21:53] <dr_willis> Evil_Eric:  got 2 monitors here.  :) so it dosent matter much.
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: assuming 32bit OS: ftp://ftp5.usw.nero.com/PUB/4553922deee1f09a7805c2eec37c8b4d/nerolinux-4.0.0.0b-x86.deb
[21:54] <Evil_Eric> lmao guess not
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: MD5: 49a65ceab331f1c83e66040b97679e5f
[21:54] <oldgettingsomewh> it worked perfectly and still is supposed to work it is specifically desighned for aircrack and network  testing the os is deticated to this pourpous
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> oldgettingsomewh: are you running backtrack?
[21:55] <oldgettingsomewh> yup
[21:55] <oldgettingsomewh> no help on #backtrack aswell
[21:56] <oldgettingsomewh> its alot like ubuntu lucid kernel right?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> oldgettingsomewh: backtrack isn't supported here, ask in #backtrack-linux
[21:56] <ColdRush> ActionParnsip Okay I went ahead and installed keytouch, then I installed keytouch-editor because my keyboard wasn't listed.  I created a file with my map and attempted to import it in keytouch but it gave me this error: The keyboard file could not be imported because it is invalid:
[21:56] <ColdRush> The syntax version of the keyboard file is not compatible with this version of keyTouch.
[21:57] <Bustacap> Anyone know the correct drivers and way to install them for an ATI Radeon X1200 onboard gpu?
[21:57] <ejo> trism: thanks!
[21:57] <Evil_Eric> this is all ActionParsnip's fault
[21:57] <L3top> Bustacap: you can only use the open source radeon driver.
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Evil_Eric: me?
[21:57] <Evil_Eric> yes you
[21:58] <Bustacap> L3top: Which one is that?
[21:58] <zatan> Hye how can I give permission to www-data user to access to direcotory which one is owned by foo ?
[21:58] <oldgettingsomewh> anybody know a lucid command to put a interface into monitor mode
[21:58] <L3top> It already exists in the kernel... it would be installed and running without doing anything.
[21:58] <L3top> Bustacap: ^
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> zatan: what is the output of:   ls -l www-data
[21:59] <ColdRush> How do I remove keytouch completely?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> ColdRush: its just a package, like any other
[22:00] <Bustacap> L3top: well I can't do anything cause of video lag...
[22:00] <Bustacap> I need some sort of driver I'm assuming..
[22:00] <zatan> ActionParsnip,  www-data is the user, ls -l command is for directories am I right ?
[22:00] <Xabster> linuxcnc (based on ubuntu 10.04) does not show my HDD during the installation process - is this fixable?
[22:00] <L3top> Bustacap: define the lag... and what version ubuntu are you on?
[22:00] <Xabster> there's currently windows XP on the hdd
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> zatan: it shows the access of the directory. Who is the owner and owning group?
[22:01] <zatan> ActionParsnip, directorey which one I am trying to access with www-data is drwx------ 21 zatan zatan
[22:01] <Bustacap> L3top: 12.10 and it's just constant skipping, and I can't watch a video or anything
[22:01] <xangua> Xabster: ask in your distro support channel, forums, etc
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Xabster: I suggest you ask in #LinuxCNC
[22:01] <v3ritas7> Does Ubuntu run well on the Lenovo ThinkPad Twist laptops?
[22:01] <Xabster> oh okay, thanks
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> v3ritas7: if you have one, try on a USB stick to test :)
[22:02] <v3ritas7> I don't, but Im thinking about buying. I want a laptop that has a touchscreen/slate capabilities
[22:02] <xbskid-> Oh this is annoying.
[22:02] <v3ritas7> and I want it to run Ubuntu flawlessly :)
[22:02] <xbskid-> KeePass won't stay locked in my launcher bar.
[22:02] <xbskid-> I lock it, log out, log back in, and it's gone.
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: add it to the startup apps....
[22:03] <Motorhead> I need some kernel advice
[22:03] <xbskid-> ActionParsnip: How does that solve the problem of things not staying docked?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: what app are you watching videos in?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: no idea, not something I was even aware of til you named it
[22:04] <Bustacap> ActionParsnip: vlc.. movie player... youtube... everything video related lags.
[22:04] <Bustacap> It's a dual core with 2gb of ram. It shouldn't be this bad.
[22:04] <Motorhead> Sup Bustacap?
[22:04] <L3top> Bustacap: I am afraid radeon dropped support for your chipset a while back, earlier versions of the driver they used to provide I do not believe will work with your version of xorg. If you just want to stab at things your best bet would be http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.12&lang=English
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: what video chip do you have?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: and are you using Unity?
[22:05] <Bustacap> ActionParsnip: I guess so? It's a fresh install of 12.10..
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: what video chip do you have?
[22:05] <L3top> But as I said, I believe what you have is as good as it can get... I use KDE 1204 on that chipset and it works fine.
[22:06] <L3top> ActionParsnip: he has an ATI X1200
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> L3top: thanks
[22:06] <Bustacap> ActionParsnip: RS690m
[22:06] <iuser> so you have gullium3d already
[22:06] <Bustacap> Part of the x1200 series?
[22:06] <Bustacap> From what lspci says.
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: have you tried installing the xfce4 package, logging off and on to the XFCE session, see how it goes there?
[22:07] <Bustacap> ActionParsnip: I have not?
[22:07] <Motorhead> Is there a kernel channel?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: may help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68934/ati-radeon-x1200-seriesrs690m-graphical-drivers-problem
[22:09] <Bustacap> Alright. I'll take a look
[22:09] <pythagorean|want> how do you send a pm>
[22:09] <BrandonBolton> pythagorean|want, do /msg personhere
[22:10] <Evil_Eric> wow i miss read bustacap's nick bad
[22:10] <kiyoura> rofl
[22:10] <Evil_Eric> was just flipping threw the screens and glanced and thought it said buttercup
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> pythagorean|want:   /msg name texttosay
[22:11] <Bustacap> LOL
[22:11] <Bustacap> Nope. Def not lol
[22:11] <Evil_Eric> i think i might need some sleep
[22:14] <VlanX> ActionParsnip: ok so xfburn won't be of any use with blurays...
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: seems its only in the nero offering
[22:15] <xbskid-> So far the most annoying thing about Unity is that there's no way to, say, right-click on a launcher icon and run it as a different user.
[22:15] <xbskid-> And you can't right-click on an icon to see what program it's running.
[22:15] <xbskid-> So... Useless. :P
[22:16] <dr_willis> 2 obscure features make it useless.....
[22:16] <dr_willis> ;P
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: you don't have to use it.....
[22:16] <xbskid-> ActionParsnip: You're right. I should switch to one of any number of other window managers.
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: Unity isnt a window manager
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: its a shell
[22:17] <xbskid-> Shells, then
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: it uses Compiz as the Window Manager
[22:17] <xbskid-> That reminds me; compiz has this tendency to crash in 12.04  and 12.10.
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> xbskid-: never had an issue
[22:18] <serunu> ActionParsnip: my fstab file looks nothing like the one in the example i was reading. how can i copy the contens of my fstab file to pastebin? I can copy/paste in nano but not outside of it.
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> serunu: its not something I use. I don't have SSD anywhere
[22:19] <dr_willis> pastebinit /path/to/file/to/paste
[22:19] <VlanX> ActionParsnip, was it you that suggested me to set some parameter on 12.04 to avoid massive write rates to HDD's after many seconds of idle time?
[22:19] <VlanX> like when downloading ubuntu's torrents
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: I gave a link that looked smart. You can also add options like:   noatime
[22:20] <dr_willis> UUID=96db155e-8d35-4766-8719-7af79fc82eac/ext4discard,noatime,nodiratime,errors=remount-ro01
[22:20] <dr_willis> is my fstab for my ssd for /
[22:20] <dr_willis> oops.. formating dident take.
[22:21] <dr_willis> UUID=96db / ext4  discard,noatime,nodiratime,errors=remount-ro  0  1
[22:21] <serunu> dr_willis: thank you. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1368886/ is my fstab if anyone wants to look. i just want my external usb HD's to mount to same location. for some reason when they mount its not always the same place.
[22:22] <dr_willis> serunu:  fstab defines exactly where they mount to.. they shouldent be moveing
[22:22] <serunu> dr_willis: thats why im trying to interput my fstab to set/verify the defaults
[22:22] <juniour_> hi
[22:23] <dr_willis> serunu:  you have no fstab entries for external disks that i can see
[22:23] <serunu> dr_willis: i know, my problems begin.... although i know they are mounted at this very time.
[22:24] <dr_willis> serunu:  nautilus is auto mounting them 'on the fly' when they are first accessed
[22:24] <dr_willis> !fstab
[22:24] <dr_willis> make a fstab line for each one. and it wont do that
[22:24] <VlanX> ActionParsnip: no, i was not referring to the option of not having the OS to update when a file was accessed. I'm wondering why when i download a distro with transmission i have several seconds of idle and suddently it starts writing like crazy for two seconds, and then it idles again. I wonder if a more smooth writing process would be more desirable.
[22:24] <gunarm2> serunu, blkid to get the UUID of your usb HD and add a line for it similar to the line for you / partition in the fstab.  i'm not sure if that will fix it though if its not plugged in at boot time, try just manually mounting the thing to a directory you make.  i think that overwrites metadata for when it gets automatically mounted
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: not sure there dude, sorry
[22:25] <VlanX> ActionParsnip no problem man :)
[22:26] <serunu> external HD's always plugged in. problem began when they did not mount at boot so i made places for them to mount. today, after a reboot they mount to orignal place. I will look into adding my own lines into fstab. thanks.
[22:28] <jj99> newly installed ubuntu 12.10 run's exactly once on my asus 55vw laptop. any ideas?
[22:28] <jj99> the second run results into a brownish screen
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> jj99: is it not a asus G55vw
[22:29] <jj99> oh g55vw i think yeah
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> jj99: seems to use a switchable video chip
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> jj99: is that right?
[22:30] <jj99> what do you mean by switchable?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> jj99: an intel GPU and an Nvidia GPU
[22:30] <jj99> yes that is correct
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> jj99: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics    may help. I've never seen a success story with this mess. Its best avoided if you intend to run anything except Windows
[22:31] <jj99> hehe ok
[22:31] <Evil_Eric> whats a great ubuntu pastebin app
[22:31] <jj99> thanks
[22:31] <gunarm1> pastebinit
[22:32] <newcomer> Are official ubuntu repositories and packages checked against a public gpg key to ensure authenticity by default?
[22:32] <Evil_Eric> whats the features of that
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> newcomer: yes
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> newcomer: PPAs have them too
[22:32] <newcomer> ActionParsnip, what about default repos?
[22:34] <jj99> ActionParsnip are you implying i may have a hard time getting ubuntu to work at all on this laptop? :D
[22:34] <jj99> that's some bullshit
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> newcomer: yes, the keys are already stored in a default install
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> jj99: its nvidia's fault, they chose not to support the technology in Linux
[22:35] <jj99> mm
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> jj99: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/get-hdmi-working-with-nvidia-optimus-on.html   may help
[22:36] <jj99> i could have bought a different laptop if i knew this
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> jj99: little research goes a looong way
[22:37] <jj99> yepp didn't realize it's the video chip
[22:39] <jj99> just wanted to code with ubuntu and use w7 for other things
[22:39] <jj99> goddamnit
[22:39] <Malimbar> whats wrong?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> Malimbar: somebody bought an optimus based laptop :(
[22:40] <Malimbar> ah
[22:40] <jj_jj> 2
[22:40] <veryhappy> sounds disappears while starting the jack sound server, and comes back when the java sound server gets stopped. what to do?
[22:41] <veryhappy> used player: vlc
[22:41] <jakepetroules> what package is ldd32 in?
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> !find  ldd32
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> jakepetroules: is it a library file?
[22:43] <jakepetroules> no
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> jakepetroules: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1368937
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> jakepetroules: is that what you mean?
[22:44] <jakepetroules> yes
[22:45] <jakepetroules> i want to read deps for a 32 bit binary on a 64 bit system
[22:45] <Malimbar> ActionParsnip delivers
[22:45] <smacktalk> I'm having an issue with an ubuntu vm such that it will pick up an address when I hve it in NAT mode, but not when it's bridged to my network...anyone else run in to that?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Malimbar: locate is the bom
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> smacktalk: try:  sudo dhclient3 eth0     in bridged mode
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> smacktalk: ask in #vmware or #vbox depending on what you are using
[22:47] <RodneyMillerPCA> For some reason java webstart (jnlp files) Are just downloading now and not starting the applet. Anyone have an idea on How to fix this. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 using firefox 16.0.2 and open java 7 with ice tea java webstart.
[22:47] <jj99> also i needed to run boot-repair to get w7 to boot from grub
[22:47] <jj99> what causes this?
[22:47] <walterwoj> How do I check what version of ddclient I have?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> walterwoj: apt-cache policy ddclient
[22:48] <jj99> the last time i installed ubuntu everything was working out of the box and now this blahblah
[22:48] <Malimbar> jj99, did you install windows second this time?
[22:48] <jj99> Malimbar no
[22:49] <jj99> can't remember the exact error message but something about efi
[22:49] <jj99> in grub
[22:49] <excelsior> why doesn't my thumbdrive get automatically mounted? I'm running 10.10 64 bit right now...
[22:49] <brandon420> I have a intel graphics chip, can someone help me find drivers for it? I have failed horribly at trying to find them online.
[22:49] <walterwoj> ActionParsnip: Thanks, It says I have v3.8.0-11 how can I make it upgrade to 3.8.1 (that version supports protocol=freedns the older one don't)
[22:50] <jj99> ActionParsnip anyways thanks
[22:51] <almoxarife> brandon420: do you know how to use pastebin? if so , paste Xorg.0.log to it? if not see link
[22:51] <jakepetroules> ActionParsnip: so can i list dependencies for 32 bit binaries on a 64 bit system
[22:51] <almoxarife> !pastebin
[22:51] <brandon420> almoxarife, one second.
[22:52] <almoxarife> brandon420: the log is found @ /var/log/
[22:53] <excelsior> Any help?
[22:53] <Malimbar> jj99, is it a problem listed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting ?
[22:53] <Malimbar> if not, I got nothing
[22:53] <brandon420> almoxarife, you want xorg.0.log, or xorg.0.log.old?
[22:54] <jj99> Malimbar ah it's ok, works after running boot-repair
[22:54] <jj99> but all this tinkering just seems to be huge step back for ubuntu or maybe i bought the wrong laptop
[22:54] <almoxarife> brandon420: also in terminal run 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic' , if it says already installed thats fine,  xorg.0.log
[22:54] <cyd> hrllo
[22:54] <cyd> sup?
[22:54] <Malimbar> I don't generally HAVE to tinker on Ubuntu, but it's hard for me to tell because I tinker so much anyways
[22:56] <RodneyMillerPCA> For some reason java webstart (jnlp files) Are just downloading now and not starting the applet. Anyone have an idea on How to fix this. I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 using firefox 16.0.2 and open java 7 with ice tea java webstart.
[22:56] <brandon420> almoxarife, I have two that need upgrading.                       http://pastebin.com/mxEPvZNt
[22:56] <almoxarife> brandon420: do so
[22:57] <brandon420> done.
[22:57] <jj99> RodneyMillerPCA didn't understand what is the problem but open java is crap just install oracle java jre/jdk
[22:57] <almoxarife> brandon420: reboot and come back, look for any changes to graphics
[22:58] <crazyzurfer> asd
[22:58] <crazyzurfer> "== Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu"
[22:58] <crazyzurfer> !apt
[22:59] <brandon420> almoxarife, alright, i will brb
[22:59] <RodneyMillerPCA> I think I agree with you jj99 this is the third time with the same issue. Every time  I upgrade ubuntu I go throught it.
[23:00] <RodneyMillerPCA> The only issue I have is installing the oracle java. I'm a toodler yet in ubuntu. lol
[23:00] <jj99> RodneyMillerPCA imo the first thing to do is to throw open java away
[23:00] <jj99> RodneyMillerPCA there are tools that make it easy
[23:01] <jj99> i don't even understand why the ship open java with ubuntu because it's so broken
[23:01] <suhaib> anyone here is using IRSSI ?
[23:01] <jj99> what's the point when you have to change it to oracle anyways
[23:01] <brandon420> almoxarife, I don't notice any difference
[23:02] <RodneyMillerPCA> I would be honored if you point me to one jj99
[23:02] <almoxarife> brandon420: according to what i see you are already using the intel drivers, did you look at the log? you are connected to hdmi?
[23:03] <jj99> RodneyMillerPCA https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java that seems a pretty decent guide
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> suhaib: i do
[23:04] <jj99> RodneyMillerPCA you should be fine with installing the jre
[23:04] <brandon420> almoxarife, I am using dual monitors, one through hdmi and the default laptop display. Is there a intel control panel of any sort? I would like to play games, but it is attempting to load so much crap that it can not handle.
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> jj99: you don't have to chane to oracles if you don't want
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> jj99: i've heard of people having great successes with oracle java
[23:04] <suhaib> ActionParsnip: I was wondering what is the difference between /connect and /server ?
[23:04] <jj99> ActionParsnip yeah but some webapps are broken with open java
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> jj99: yes, some. If a person doesn't use the broken ones, why add the oracle one?
[23:05] <almoxarife> brandon420: the switching is via distro specific, i use kde
[23:05] <brandon420> almoxarife, does compiz drain your resources like it did on gnome? (im using unity) The games i am trying to play work/run "decently" on windows.
[23:05] <jj99> ActionParsnip yeah but why use a broken environment
[23:05] <RodneyMillerPCA> Awesome. I was over and over the site and missed that one. Thank you very much jj99
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> jj99: why expend effort when what you have is ticking the boxes? Fixing something that isn't broken?
[23:05] <jj99> suhaib server will disconnect your current connection
[23:06] <almoxarife> brandon420: can you try running the game without compiz?
[23:06] <jj99> ActionParsnip well anyways a large scandinavian bank has an internet banking solution that doesn't work with open java
[23:06] <brandon420> Just killall compiz?
[23:06] <jj99> danskebank to be more precise
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> jj99: well then you need the oracle one.....
[23:07] <brandon420> almoxarife  just killall compiz? I don't know where to turn it off otherwise.
[23:07] <jj99> ActionParsnip but anyways i disagree with shipping a broken environment
[23:07] <almoxarife> brandon420: no, that would toss cookies with your graphics, i think, you are now asking me questions about something i dont use, someone else here must be a compiz guru
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> suhaib: /server seems to be for adding it to the config in some way.....try asking in #irssi
[23:07] <suhaib> jj99: Oh. So /server if you want one connection and /connection of you want to join multi rooms ? I hope am correct :P
[23:07] <jj99> suhaib yes thatsabout it
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> jj99: it works for many, so its not broken. It just doesn't suit YOUR needs. Nothing more
[23:08] <jj99> connect opens a new server tab that you can toggle with ctrl+x
[23:08] <brandon420> almoxarife, alright, thank you for helping me out. =)
[23:08] <suhaib> ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:08] <jj99> ActionParsnip but you can still run into broken webapps with open java
[23:09] <suhaib> jj99: aha, this is the trick :-)
[23:09] <suhaib> jj99: thanks
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> jj99: its like saying "why does ubuntu ship with firefox.Its broken". I hate firefox. Same difference
[23:09] <jj99> maybe it works now but in a year you'll stumble into your new favourite webapp that doesn't work
[23:09] <almoxarife> brandon420: there is something you could try, 'openbox' is a light DM, no compiz, install it, log into it and then run the game'
[23:09] <jj99> ActionParsnip but firefox does not have a fully working "reference" implementation
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> jj99: then if you find you need oracle java, you can install it
[23:09] <suhaib> almoxarife: but it's really hard to configure :-S
[23:09] <walterwoj> how can I install ddclient 3.8.1 in U12.04?  The only one I can apt-get is 3.8.0
[23:10] <dr_willis> The great thing about standards is theres so many to choose from
[23:10] <almoxarife> subcool: to just start up a game?
[23:10] <dr_willis> walterwoj:  find a PPA, or use source
[23:10] <almoxarife> sorry subcool
[23:10] <jj99> ActionParsnip so yeah the open java is a working solution? use it till something breaks
[23:10] <msx> hi guys, i'm having consistent "org.freedesktop.avahi.timeouterror timeout reached" error on a fresh 12.04-LTS server fresh install with AVAHI, anyone else?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> jj99: why not? makes sense
[23:10] <walterwoj> dr_willis: sorry, PPA?
[23:10] <almoxarife> suhaib: to just start up a game?
[23:10] <suhaib> walterwoj: Yup, source then compile it
[23:10] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  yes. if you want the most resources for your game.
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | walterwoj
[23:11] <almoxarife> dr_willis: ic, i dont know what to tell the guy then
[23:11] <jj99> ActionParsnip because the oracle/sun works and now we have this half assed solution named open java
[23:11] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  i dont know what the origial problem is.  Just the open box window manager will save some resources.
[23:11] <kostkon> jj99, you are very wrong: https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/moving_to_openjdk_as_the
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> jj99: yes... 'for you'  this is the bit you seem to overlook
[23:12] <almoxarife> whats a light DM without compiz that will still have game capability?
[23:12] <jrib> almoxarife: all of them?
[23:12] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  its a 'wm'  window manager.. and theres a dozen in the repos
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> walterwoj: I've found a PPA for 3.8. in Precise
[23:12] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  they all have game capability....
[23:12] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  openbox is a popular one.
[23:12] <jrib> almoxarife: if you want a suggestion... try one of the boxes like openbox or fluxbox
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> walterwoj: sudo add-apt-repositry ppa:ian-hawdon/ddclient; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:13] <Bl4cklisted> almoxarife: XFCE is also pretty lightweight
[23:13] <almoxarife> jrib: it was not my issue, my rig(kde) works fine
[23:13] <jj99> kostkon hehe
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> jj99: we don't all use the same java stuff you do, so we don't need the same java you do. The open java may work for everything we need. How ignorant can you be?  "I need oracle Java so you must all use it!"
[23:13] <kostkon> jj99, ;)
[23:14]  * almoxarife uses qtrazor when he wants light
[23:15] <jj99> ActionParsnip it's not really about that _i_ need it, just to point a real life example how it is broken
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> jj99: I know but for many open java is fine, so it's not broken, like you said it is
[23:15] <walterwoj> ActionParsnip: awesome thanks!
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> walterwoj: just used the PPA link ubottu gave.....
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> walterwoj: there is a nightly build too: https://launchpad.net/~agib/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=precise
[23:16] <almoxarife> wow, someone got netflix to run on ubuntu, good job
[23:16] <jj99> perhaps, i' off now
[23:17] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  now i will never leave the house.....
[23:17] <dr_willis> ;)
[23:17] <almoxarife> dr_willis: i am guessing 'netflix' is not complaining
[23:17] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  i bet the company will be.
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: how so?
[23:18] <dr_willis> its making things too easy to screen capture. ;)
[23:18] <gunarm1> how can you look up metapackage heirarchies from the repos?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: true but maybe more folks get subscriptions :)
[23:19] <gustav__> almoxarife: who what where
[23:19] <dr_willis> but the netflix thing is running in wine. so we know how stable that can be...
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: gonna test it a month ;)
[23:19] <almoxarife> gustav__: not sure what you mean
[23:19] <gustav__> almoxarife: Ok.
[23:21] <hash_> hmm i seem to have lost sound
[23:22] <dmd_on_air> .
[23:23] <walterwoj> Just to make things interesting I got this error: http://pastebin.com/4aFx4Chg when I did what actionparsnip said
[23:23] <Jpham> hi, im here for a class assignment
[23:23] <Jpham> what is the purpose of this channel?
[23:23] <dr_willis> !ubuntu
[23:23] <Jpham> do people come here with problems?
[23:23] <dr_willis> this is a support channel. so yes.
[23:24] <Jpham> thanks dr willis
[23:24] <hash_> ok so i somehow nolonger have a sound card how can i refind it
[23:27] <hash_> having an hdmi cable plugged in shouldnt have an effect on my sound card right
[23:27] <escott> hash_, it might
[23:29] <blackshirt> hello
[23:30] <c0dr> whatup wes
[23:30] <hash_> so i used the arecord -l command and it shows no sound cards found
[23:32] <hash_> but i do belive i see it under lspci
[23:33] <gunarm1> if i install a metapackage a, with one of several packages b, which has a dependancy to c.  am I correct that apt get remove b will remove dependancy c immediatly, but wait until autoremove to remove a, and all of a's dependancies?
[23:33] <odin> Hello
[23:34] <escott> hash_, i believe the pulse audio gui does not show an HDMI card until the HDMI cord is plugged in. I would think arecord would list it no matter what, but it might make a difference if arecord is going through pulse
[23:34] <escott> gunarm1, no. apt-get remove b should just remove b
[23:35] <Bustacap> Hey, I'm thinking about going back to breezy badger days for a customers crappy old laptop that just wants to browse the web. Will I be able to get the annoying broadcom wlan drivers working on a distro that old?
[23:35] <escott> gunarm1, rather it will remove b, not that a is unsatisfied and also remove a
[23:36] <hash_> well escott, i tried the arecord with and without the hdmi plugged in both nothing and the audio i saw under lspci is my hdmi audio
[23:36] <dr_willis> Bustacap:  i dont see the point in going to an old relase really.
[23:36] <kostkon> Bustacap, just don't. It will be full of security holes.
[23:36] <dr_willis> Bustacap:  theres disrtos out there made with older hardware in mind.
[23:36] <hash_> now im wondering if i fried my soundcard somehow
[23:36] <kostkon> Bustacap, you will be putting your customer's data and personal info at risk
[23:36] <serunu> i know syntax for filename with space is example: my\ folder. i am trying to input this into fstab but it will not recoginze it.
[23:36] <dr_willis> saw a few mentioned on disrtowatch this week with a focus on 'old hardware' as in 10+ yrs old
[23:37] <dr_willis> serunu:  you trying to mount a samba share? or what excatly? fstab does NOT use that syntax for spaces
[23:37] <Bustacap> dr_willis: the problem is that it's got the horrible radeon x1200 gpu and new releases don't support it.
[23:37] <Bustacap> So it's very slow.
[23:37] <kostkon> Bustacap, try xubuntu 12.04 or lubuntu
[23:37] <Bustacap> Nope. Drivers only work for 8.04 and older for this video card from what I read.
[23:38] <serunu> dr_willis: it is ntfs filesystem, friends(windows user) HD that has label My Book
[23:38] <dr_willis> /dev/sda1 /mnt/first\040disk ext3 options 0 0
[23:38] <Bustacap> So I figured if I'm going back to 8.04, I might as well just go back to breezy.
[23:38] <dr_willis> You dont have to use the label name.  You vould use the uuid or /dev/sdXX name schemd
[23:38] <dr_willis> Bustacap:  i dont see the point.
[23:39] <Bustacap> To use the ati drivers.
[23:39] <Bustacap> Cause I can't do anything on this thing on 12.10
[23:39] <Bustacap> I just want something small and old school than can run on the crappiest of crappiest computers.
[23:39] <dr_willis> distrowatch lists several for Older hardware
[23:39] <Bustacap> All she does is sit on facebook all day lol
[23:40] <Bustacap> Yeah, but I don't want to try a bunch out, I used breezy back in the day lol.
[23:41] <dr_willis> Miguel Anxo Bouzada has announced the release of GALPon MiniNo 2.0, a Debian-based distributions for legacy computers - the ones made twelve (or more) years ago: "  .......
[23:41] <JemSoft> Hello People!!!
[23:41] <kostkon> Bustacap, lubuntu 12.04, puppy linux, slitaz
[23:41] <serunu> dr_willis: is there anyway to get fstab to accept space?
[23:42] <kostkon> Bustacap, try these
[23:42] <dr_willis> serunu:  the example line i pastesd showd how to use a space.
[23:42] <dr_willis> /dev/sda1 /mnt/first\040disk ext3 options 0 0
[23:42] <serunu> dr_willis: must not have seen it. thanks.
[23:42] <dr_willis>  \040 = space
[23:43] <JemSoft> Hi there, first time in this chatroom. I am a linux users but a windows support worker.
[23:43] <serunu> dr_willis: much appreciated
[23:43] <JemSoft> I am interested in discussing about servers... and so on.
[23:44] <hash_> hmmm well my soundcard isnt blown
[23:45] <brandon420> How do i get pulseaudio working again? I had to download the gnome alsa mixer for volume control.....
[23:46] <dr_willis> !info pavucontrol
[23:51] <Chunkin> hello
[23:52] <jCuber> Hi!
[23:52] <brandon420> dr_willis, it said "connection to pulseaudio failed. automatic retry in 5s"
[23:52] <brandon420> hey!
[23:52] <Chunkin> so what is this about netflix?
[23:52] <dr_willis> sounds like the pulse server/service is down
[23:52] <dr_willis> Chunkin:  seems to work here for me
[23:52] <kostkon> Chunkin, i'll try it soon myself
[23:52] <Chunkin> oh cool
[23:53] <jCuber> Chunkin: Don't use netflix myself :p
[23:53] <dr_willis> http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/ppa-for-netflix-desktop-app.html
[23:54] <kostkon> yeap, that's the blog post
[23:54] <brandon420> dr_willis, And when i try "start-pulseaudio-x11" I get "pa_context_connect failed: connection refused
[23:54] <Chunkin> nice
[23:54] <brandon420> Netflix is horrible >.>
[23:54] <Chunkin> lol
[23:54] <VlanX> on the good old 12.04 i could see Konversation on the upper right part of the screen, clicking on the mail syble; but now with 12.10 i can just see the mails with Thunderbird and nothing else. Anyone knows why is that?
[23:54] <Chunkin> hulu is better
[23:54] <dr_willis>  sudo service pulseaudio restart
[23:54] <Chunkin> how do you respond to someones chat? like with their name first?
[23:54] <sheerun> How to use gdebi to install dependent packages at once?
[23:54] <Chunkin> jCuber?
[23:54] <jCuber> !tab | Chunkin
[23:55] <sheerun> For example all from http://www.weechat.org/files/ubuntu/precise/0.3.9.2/i386/
[23:55] <Chunkin> oh cool
[23:55] <Chunkin> jCuber, yay
[23:55] <dr_willis> gdebi foo.deb bar.deb whatever.deb
[23:55] <kostkon> sheerun, dpkg -i *.deb?
[23:56] <sheerun> dr_willis: It does not work for me: gdebi weechat-curses_0.3.9.2-1_i386.deb weechat-core_0.3.9.2-1_i386.deb => Dependency is not satisfiable: weechat-core (= 0.3.9.2-1)
[23:57] <mistaknly> Do all the variations of ubuntu support: hfs+, exFAT, vFAT, FAT16, FAT32 and ntfs?
[23:57] <sheerun> I have gdebi 0.8.5
[23:57] <Zetsumei> hi
[23:57] <sheerun> kostkon: I don't want to use dpkg, it's too dangerous tool :)
[23:57] <kostkon> sheerun, lol. ok then
[23:57] <dr_willis> sheerun:  if you got all the debs needed you can use the dpkg -i  *.deb mmethod
[23:57] <walterwoj> can anyone recomend a dynamic dns cleint that works? (ddclient has a bug)
[23:58] <dr_willis> Err gdebi uses it..
[23:58] <sheerun> dr_willis: The same dpkg is out of the scope
[23:58] <sheerun> dr_willis: Yes, but is knows how to use it
[23:58] <dr_willis> makes me wonder if the ackages are made right