[02:32] <Len-nb> zequence, yahoo new lowlatency kernel for 12.04 downloading from update gui
[08:52] <zequence> Len-nb: Check the changelog. Must be the longest list of changes in the history of Debian/Ubunut for a single package
[08:53] <smartboyhw> zequence, which one?:P
[10:04] <zequence> smartboyhw: linux-lowlatency for Precise
[10:08] <smartboyhw> zequence, ah LOL...... 
[10:12] <zequence> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/dream-studio-12-04-1-official-release/
[10:13] <zequence> He's including some packages that we can't as well as kxstudio ppas
[10:14] <smartboyhw> zequence, oh
[10:14] <zequence> One thing that I'm a little curious about is his "Dream Studio Audio Indicator"
[10:14] <zequence> Which is there instead of qjackctl
[10:17] <smartboyhw> zequence, btw this is the ppa
[10:17] <smartboyhw> https://launchpad.net/~dreamstudio/+archive/dreamstudio-stable
[10:19] <smartboyhw> zequence, btw who's dick macinnis actually?:P (Stupid question)
[10:21] <zequence> smartboyhw: He's actually involved with Ubuntu Studio, concerning Art. He's in the art team
[10:22] <zequence> Haven't seen him around for a long while
[10:31] <zequence> I started a homepage for what I now call Linux Multimedia Controls http://www.linux-multimedia-controls.org/?q=node/1
[10:31] <zequence> Will take me a few weeks to get some code in place
[10:31] <zequence> This is meant to be a sort of candidate for Ubuntu Studio Controls
[10:32] <zequence> It will be modular, making it possible for people to very simply add new features to it
[10:32] <zequence> Either bash or python scripts
[10:33] <zequence> I'll start by making it adjust some imporant settings, but somewhere further down the path, I'd like it to also be able to control both PA and jackd
[12:51] <smartboyhw> zequence, good
[12:51] <smartboyhw> zequence, the website is er a bit strange
[12:51] <smartboyhw>  Page not found
[12:51] <smartboyhw> The requested page "/?q=node/1" could not be found.
[12:58] <zequence> smartboyhw: Ah, yea. I removed that page
[12:59] <zequence> http://www.linux-multimedia-controls.org/
[12:59] <smartboyhw> zequence, let me register:p
[13:03] <zequence> smartboyhw: Let me know if it workes or not
[13:04] <smartboyhw> zequence, it does
[15:30] <len-dt> zequence, synfigstudio seems to jump a few releases in ubuntu. I can't look at it in 12.04.
[15:31] <len-dt> re- dreamstudio, very little on the page. Uses unity though, so takes more to run than my machines will handle.
[15:37] <zequence> len-dt: I just had a very quick look at synfigstudio in 13.04. Seems like something we should have
[15:38] <len-dt> I certainly support fleshing out our non-audio workflows.
[15:39] <len-dt> I just know that I am not the one to decide what is useful.
[15:39] <smartboyhw> len-dt, ScottL, you and zequence is. (I am NOT)
[15:39] <len-dt> video is not generally my thing.
[15:41] <len-dt> MuseScore ... is that audio production or publishing?... Its in audio now, but should it be in publishing
[15:45] <zequence> Maybe both
[15:45] <zequence> It's more of a publishing app anyway
[15:46] <len-dt> Type setting for music, it uses audio as an output form but it is not really an audio production application.
[15:46] <len-dt> The question is where do people expect it to be :)
[15:47] <zequence> I think we should start to think in terms of tags, rather than menu categories. It can both be used as a sequencer, and a publishing tool
[15:47] <zequence> Our menu is well designed for multiple entries I think
[15:48] <zequence> I just think it's important that you can see from the menu title that it makes sense having whatever app is inside it
[15:48] <len-dt> Perhaps it should be added to the publishing menu and meta?
[15:50] <zequence> I guess so. If you only install the publishing meta, you'd get it. The same with the audio meta
[15:50] <len-dt> Ya that is my thought.
[15:51] <zequence> And that seems fine, all though I would think most people would only expect book publishing stuff in publishing
[15:51] <zequence> But, in principle, it makes sense to have MuseScore in publishing
[15:52] <len-dt> It would add a sense of completeness. The only thing to look at I  think is if it is usable without jack.
[15:52] <zequence> Pretty sure it is, let me check
[15:52] <len-dt> Someone doing publishing probably doesn't want to deal with that.
[15:53] <zequence> You might not even want audio at all even
[15:53] <len-dt> The desktop comes with audio.
[15:54] <len-dt> I would love to design a whole new main menu applet for the top bar. But that is probably beyond me right now.
[15:55] <len-dt> I would like the main menu to only use or show sub menus if there are more than one items in the sub menu, otherwise just show that item instead of the submenu.
[15:55] <zequence> Well, it works fine without jack.
[15:56] <len-dt> I'll add it to publishing
[23:43] <knome> http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2012/11/14/photography-workflow-on-ubuntu/