[00:59] <Walzmyn> why does LibreOffice have several of my documents in the recent files list, but not the one I use every week for work?
[01:00] <kc4sbj> if it isnt their you may have to add them
[01:01] <Walzmyn> recent documents is supposed to just remember the last several files you opened. There's no way to add anything
[01:05] <kc4sbj> look under tamplates and see if there is one that you ane add it
[01:05] <kc4sbj> oop
[01:05] <kc4sbj> templates
[01:40] <Walzmyn> what would templates have to do with recent documents
[04:26] <trlc> how can i get the taskbar to appear on both monitors like in unity?
[04:31] <xixor> trlc: I think the only way is to add a panel to the other screen
[04:32] <trlc> ah that worked, but it now is stuck at the top
[04:32] <trlc> how do i put it at the bottom
[04:33] <navaneeth> Hi..I have installed the kubuntu my webcam is not detecting..Can somebody help me
[04:34] <navaneeth> Hi..I have installed the kubuntu my webcam is not detecting..Can somebody help me
[04:37] <unheeding> does anyone know how to change the bootsplash?
[04:47] <Guest60986> help
[09:30] <ct529> hi everybody. kde 4.93 on 12.10 64 bit is taking a very long time to start.
[09:30] <ct529> anyone with the same problem? How did you solve it?
[09:32] <Smurphy> disabled desktop search completely ...
[09:36] <saed> ITF.hh
[10:52] <ManDay> Guys, Kubuntu is to big for a CD?
[10:52] <ManDay> What the heck...
[10:52] <ManDay> Is there a 700Megs or smaller version?
[10:53] <tsimpson> there is only the one ISO now, for DVD or USB
[10:57] <ManDay> bah
[11:17] <invariant> tsimpson, wouldn't it be really easy to also create a CD release?
[11:18] <tsimpson> not really, being constrained to the size of a CD was an issue for a long time, that's why when Ubuntu moved away from CD-sized releases so did Kubuntu
[11:18] <invariant> tsimpson, in my case, when I needed a rescue cd, I opted to try out a new distribution which did fit on a CD.
[11:18] <Riddell> invariant: it would be a more limited image and it would require more manpower for testing than we have
[11:19] <invariant> Riddell, there is this thing called an automatic test system.
[11:19] <invariant> Riddell, adding or removing kde-games should not create any issues either.
[11:48] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[12:37] <BluesKaj> BBL
[15:48] <ovidiu-florin> hello, can anybody tell me what flag do I have to give to g++ to show all compile errors? So that the compiler does not stop on the first error?
[15:56] <tsimpson> ovidiu-florin: it can't continue past the error, because it would likely produce other (false) errors
[16:12] <BluesKaj> !best
[16:31] <milovan> Hi, I have a problem regarding file permissions on NFS. Umask works for new files well, but if I get a file via Skype with permission like 600 and then I put it on NFS, it keeps 600 thus others from a group cant use it at all. I m sharing files via common group
[16:32] <milovan> so the question is, how to enforce on file / folder group r and w?
[16:34] <xixor> ovidiu-florin: apparently, by default, gcc sets -fmax-errors=0, which means it should try to continue compiling to generate other errors.  http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Warning-Options.html#Warning-Options
[16:35] <xixor> ovidiu-florin: if you have -Wfatal-errors flag set then it will stop after the first error
[16:36] <ovidiu-florin> xixor: no, I dont have that set up
[16:37] <ovidiu-florin> it stops compilying everything if a file has an error, and I cannot see the errors in other files
[16:38] <BluesKaj> milovan, set the file permission for the common group before adding to the export dir
[16:43] <milovan> BluesKaj: do you mean to set permission in local, and then put on nfs or you had something else on your mind?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> milovan, yes
[16:46] <milovan> while this is a kind of a solution, I was actually looking into kind of autmoated solution: users just get files via Skype, put on NFS and some default permissions are applied. Just like umask with new files / folders
[16:47] <milovan> I think even Samba has some default mask for file and folder to be able to set
[16:47] <milovan> so I was wondering if NFS has that too (or similar) that I missed?
[16:51] <BluesKaj> milovan,  my NFS permissions are for home users here , so my suggestion is probly very limited in your situation
[16:56] <xixor> are NFS shares mounted in /etc/fstab?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:56] <xixor> isn't their a default permissions option there?
[16:59] <xixor> dmask=027,fmask=137 or whatever you want on the NTS share in the fstab line
[17:00] <xixor> I don't have much experience with NFS though, maybe there are caveats
[17:02] <BluesKaj> xixor, I don't recall setting specific permissions for the export file , or any instructions aboutr setting them in fstab
[17:02] <tsimpson> you generally don't set permissions for NFS, it already has permissions
[17:02] <milovan> hm hm so dmask and fmask in /etc/fstab line should play like a permission mask?
[17:03] <milovan> tsimpson: true, it copies permission from client; but how to make kind of a default permission like umask does for new created files / folders?
[17:04] <milovan> i think i saw in samba's conf mask settings, but i cant find similar to nfs
[17:05] <tsimpson> samba (cifs) has no real concept of permissions
[17:05] <tsimpson> the only authentication is upon initial connection
[17:06] <tsimpson> umask is whatever the umask for the user is, you don't need workarounds like umask/dmask
[17:06] <tsimpson> permissions come from the server
[17:10] <milovan> so tell me, client A receives file from someone, file has 600 permission. Client A puts that file on NFS. Client B comes and cant open file because there are no r or write for group. How to solve that problem?
[17:10] <milovan> Lets assume clients have no idea how to change permission, they just expect "file sharing" to automatically work
[17:22] <Mic4cH>  yo yo yo
[17:45] <Basil1x> Hello.  12.10 with both Kubuntu and Ubuntu installed.  The screen keeps blanking after ~5min inactivity.  The fora responses to this problem are unhelpful.  I have the power settings and brightness / screensaver set to never.
[17:47] <Peace-> Basil1x: there is atrick for that
[17:47] <Basil1x> Goody
[17:48] <Basil1x> Is this trick easy, or involved?
[17:48] <Peace-> Basil1x: screenshot
[17:48] <Peace-> wait
[17:48] <Peace-> Basil1x: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/19/plasma-desktopY17699.png
[17:49] <xixor> Basil1x: looks like a bug in 12.10: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1072531
[17:49] <Basil1x> Did that.  still blanks after ~5min
[17:49] <Peace-> Basil1x: 360minutes?
[17:49] <Basil1x> yes
[17:50] <Peace-> but the sceensaver is set as well to max ? Basil1x
[17:50] <Basil1x> Peace-: that works fine in KDE... when I switch back to Unity, it all goes funny again.
[17:51] <Peace-> Basil1x: well unity is not supported in this channel :) here only -k-stuff
[17:51] <Basil1x> screensaver is set to max, and turned off.
[17:51] <Peace-> Basil1x: you shoul dnot turn of
[17:51] <Peace-> should not turn it off
[17:51] <Peace-> but just set to max
[17:51] <Basil1x> OK
[17:52] <Basil1x> bbiab... hafta switch desktops
[18:53] <thechef> Is there any way to get back to KDE when an fullscreen application freezes and Alt+Tab  refuses to work?
[18:53] <thechef> I can go to the Ctrl+Alt+F1 terminal and kill the application but is there no faster way?
[18:58] <DarthFrog> thechef: you can use CTL-Fkey to switch between virtual desktops.  Or you can use CTL-ALT-Esc to invoke xkill.
[19:03] <BluesKaj>  thechef , try the escape (esc) key
[19:06] <BluesKaj> ctrl +alt+esc  didn't work here yesterday when my browser froze in FS mode , DarthFrog , but just esc did
[19:06] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  Really?  That surprises me.
[19:06] <BluesKaj> this poor pc was overloaded at the time
[19:06] <DarthFrog> Ah, so it dropped the keypresses.
[19:07] <BluesKaj> yeah , I think so
[19:08] <BluesKaj> i really don't understand why smb file transfer is so slow , nothing else is open except konversation
[19:09] <BluesKaj> and dolphin
[19:13] <BluesKaj> I guess transfer from wife's NTFS , to my pc, then to the attached external drive creates a narrow pipe somehow
[19:15] <phiscribe> ive ran into that slowness before also BluesKaj
[19:15] <phiscribe> once upon a time it was not like that, something changed not sure what, ntfs driver or cifs
[19:15] <phiscribe> and i mean like 3-4 years ago
[19:16] <BluesKaj> phiscribe, and the cpu is working at almost maximum load ...it makes no sense
[19:17] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: Sounds like you might have a memory leak.
[19:17] <phiscribe> are you using smb:// thru a file manager?
[19:19] <phiscribe> BluesKaj, if you are using smb:// it "might" go faster if you mounted the volume with the cifs option first
[19:20] <thechef> DarthFrog, in a video games it doesn't work
[19:20] <thechef> namely Waking Mars
[19:22] <BluesKaj> phiscribe, yes dolphin
[19:23] <thechef> I'd like to have on of the system applications to overrule a key combination
[19:23] <BluesKaj> phiscribe, cifs option ? how do you mean all drives are mounted
[19:24] <phiscribe> i mean manualy mount the drive
[19:24] <BluesKaj> which drive ?
[19:24] <phiscribe> the ntfs one
[19:25] <phiscribe> then again i said "might"
[19:26] <BluesKaj> that drive is on my wifes pc , phiscribe , never trird to mount a windows hdd from a linux cli
[19:27] <phiscribe> dolphin is doing the mounting for you
[19:27] <BluesKaj> yes and ?
[19:29] <phiscribe> i might be the way dolphin is mounting is resulting in the slow down. it might not be.  if it looks like it is going to be hours to copy something, attempting a manual mount might be worth it. it might not matter.
[19:29] <phiscribe> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-mount-cifs-windows-share/
[19:36] <BluesKaj> phiscribe, I'll wait til this last file transfers then I'll attempt that tutorial , thanks for the tip
[19:44] <rtut> во))
[19:45] <rtut> а русские есть?
[19:45] <Unit193> !ru | rtut
[19:46] <rtut> !ru
[19:56] <rtut> [404] rtut #ubuntu-ru Cannot send to channel что не так?
[19:59] <rtut> !help
[20:00] <rtut> !join
[20:06] <BluesKaj> phiscribe, unfortunately the commands in the nixcraft tutorial only gave what looked like a user manual text for cifs
[20:42] <Mic4cH> hjk
[20:45] <xixor> BluesKaj: which process is taking up all the CPU during the copy?
[20:50] <xixor> BluesKaj: and can you still not stream media files in VLC/Dragon player over smb and dolphin?
[21:09] <xixor> BluesKaj: do you have these packages installed? libkio5, kdepimlibs-kio-plugins, kdemultimedia-kio-plugins, kjde-zeroconf, smbclient, smb4k, libsmbclient
[21:10] <BluesKaj> xixor, I don't use smb4k ...it's unstable
[21:11] <BluesKaj> as for the others , let me check
[21:14] <BluesKaj> xixor, yes I have all the others , except for smb4k
[21:14] <xixor> BluesKaj: hm.. ok
[21:15] <xixor> BluesKaj: so, you have two symptoms: slow copying of files, and all media files get downloaded to local copies before playing, is that correct?
[21:18] <BluesKaj> no xixor , I play the media files directly from the external drive without any problems , it's when I transfer files from wifes windows pc to the external drive connected to my pc
[21:19] <xixor> ok, so it is <Wifes NTFS formated internal drive in win7>->windows SMB->Linux Box->External ext4 drive via usb2.0.  Is that the flow?
[21:22] <BluesKaj> noy quite , but close , it's .Wifes NTFS formated internal drive in win7>->windows SMB->Linux Box->External ext4 drive via sata
[21:22] <genii-around>  /me makes more coffee and sorts out the wires
[21:24] <BluesKaj> i thought an esata to sata drive would be faster than usb 2.0
[21:24] <smj> how do I check if a mounted filesystem does journaling?
[21:27] <xixor> BluesKaj: have you tried doing win7->linux box, linux box->external drive, and timing those a little bit to see if you can isolate which leg of the trip is the bottleneck?
[21:32] <vbgunz> what is the simplest and most straight forward firewall gui?
[21:39] <BluesKaj> xixor, yes they seem to be a bit faster from W7 to linux box , but not much
[21:40] <xixor> still getting like... 2MiB/s?
[21:44] <rork> BluesKaj: As I get it you're trying to transfer files from your wife's pc over samba in Dolphin? What happens if you try to use scp instead?
[21:45] <rork> BluesKaj: sorry, not scp but the samba cli client
[21:46] <xixor> or mounting the samba drive in fstab with smbfs.. might speed things up of it's the kio/dolphin mounting that is causing the problem... still, kio/dolphin should work
[21:48] <rork> xixor: last time I checked (like last year) kio did an awfull job, the cli client did very well
[21:49] <xixor> rork: the thing is kio/dolphin works fine for me.  I can copy files over network shares to my linux box where the bottleneck is the USB 2.0 hard drive I am downloading from on the other end
[21:50] <BluesKaj> I have the ntfs source file and the ext4 target file side by side on a desktop ...dragging and dropping seems to be fastest so far , 6mib/s
[21:52] <BluesKaj> and the the cpu load has dropped from 98% to 80% ..at least the fans aren't working overtime like before
[21:56] <xixor> BluesKaj: this is linux computer straight to the ext4 drive over eSata?
[21:57] <BluesKaj> xixor, yes
[21:57] <xixor> that seems pretty slow for sure
[21:58] <xixor> BluesKaj: your letting dolphin auto mount the drive I presume?
[22:00] <BluesKaj> xixor, the external is mounted in fstab and I access in dolphin under "devices"
[22:01] <xixor> BluesKaj: oh, I see.  So that should bypass the kio layer all together shouldn't it?  And you still get high CPU loads when copying to the ext4 drive?
[22:02] <BluesKaj> no , only when copying from the W7 pc to the external
[22:02] <xixor> ah, ok
[22:12] <yuryi> hi