[07:58] <dholbach> good morning
[09:54] <marcus> hi all. i tried to install gnome shell on my nexus 7 but sadly it fails with the acceleration check. as unity/compiz works without any problems i thought it should be possible to run mutter, too.
[10:01] <lilstevie> marcus, that depends whether it has all of the gles bits in it or not
[10:01] <lilstevie> which I am guessing it doesn;t
[10:02] <ogra_> it does
[10:02] <ogra_> but there is a bug in gnome shell ...
[10:04] <lilstevie> ah ok
[10:04] <ogra_> bug 1072509
[10:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1072509 in ubuntu-nexus7 "Gnome Shell/Classic is Unable To Provide Accelerated Experience" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1072509
[10:04] <lilstevie> ogra_, I just assumed it was going to fallback because the gles bits weren't there :p
[10:04] <lilstevie> I really should check the source more
[10:05] <ogra_> we ship the tegra3 drivers by default
[10:05] <lilstevie> ogra_, I meant in gnome-shell
[10:05] <ogra_> ah
[12:42] <VarmVaffel> I have established a ppp connection through a 3G USB modem, but I still can't ping or wget anything
[12:43] <VarmVaffel> http://pastebin.com/q8p0j2Nz
[12:45] <VarmVaffel> any experience with this is appreciated
[12:45] <VarmVaffel> I'm almost out of ideas
[12:49] <RaYmAn> VarmVaffel: you show pinging an address..try pinging an ip..In particular, try pinging the gateway ip (ip route should show some useful info)
[12:50] <VarmVaffel> oh it's you again :P
[12:50] <VarmVaffel> I have though
[12:50] <VarmVaffel> same thing happens
[12:50] <VarmVaffel> or well not the same thing, but just no answer
[12:50] <RaYmAn> sorry ;)
[12:50] <RaYmAn> pastebin ip route output
[12:51] <VarmVaffel> three lines, I can pastem here
[12:51] <VarmVaffel> 10.64.64.64 dev ppp0  src 77.19.71.239
[12:51] <VarmVaffel> 127.0.0.0/8 dev lo
[12:51] <VarmVaffel> default dev ppp0
[12:51] <RaYmAn> can you ping 10.64.64.64?
[12:51] <VarmVaffel> no, no answer
[12:52] <VarmVaffel> it's also a strange looking address isn't it
[12:52] <RaYmAn> and I take it the ppp logs doesn't give any useful info?
[12:52] <RaYmAn> Nah, it's rather common for these 3g providers
[12:52] <VarmVaffel> aha
[12:52] <VarmVaffel> no I didn't know of any ppp logs, how do I check?
[12:53] <VarmVaffel> I just used pppd call myscript to make the connection
[12:53] <VarmVaffel> the modem also lights up it's LEDs like it should
[12:53] <RaYmAn> I'd imagine they are in /var/log/ppp.log or similar
[12:53] <RaYmAn> oh, so you aren't using dist stuff/networkmanager?
[12:53] <RaYmAn> then it can be a million things :P
[12:53] <VarmVaffel> aha :p
[12:54] <VarmVaffel> no it's a custom embedded
[12:54] <VarmVaffel> machine
[12:54] <VarmVaffel> running just linux
[12:54] <RaYmAn> also, yes -the 3g modem clearly connects and gets an ip etc
[12:54] <VarmVaffel> ok arligght
[12:54] <VarmVaffel> alright*
[12:54] <VarmVaffel> checking my kernel config to see if there's anything else I can enable
[12:54] <VarmVaffel> or disable
[13:00] <VarmVaffel> RaYmAn so with this, is there some problems I can exclude?
[13:00] <VarmVaffel> like pppd, or the kernel config, or whatnot?
[13:04] <RaYmAn> well, i guess pppd/authentication certainly works
[13:04] <RaYmAn> It's merely traffic that doesn't work :P
[13:06] <VarmVaffel> right :P
[13:09] <RaYmAn> what I'd try next if i were you, would be try and get it working on a desktop linux. Then investigate the config and compare
[13:24] <VarmVaffel> yeah I've done that
[13:24] <VarmVaffel> and I am comparing
[13:24] <VarmVaffel> seems similiar
[15:12] <cwayne> vanhoof: ping
[15:38] <kyleN> cwayne, should the n7 wiki contain the additions about using BT given that BT is known not to work well/be supported?
[15:39] <smartboyhw> Hi guys I saw in the Nexus7 team's PPA that nux and unity are a bit outdated. ..
[15:39] <cwayne> kyleN: im not sure it should tbh, im not sure when they were added in/by whom
[15:40] <cwayne> smartboyhw: that's because they're specially patched at the moment, we're working on getting the fixes upstream
[15:40] <kyleN> cwayne, perhaps the wiki should have a section set asie for BT  workaround
[15:47] <mfisch> smartboyhw: do not update nux and unity or your device will not work
[15:47] <smartboyhw> mfisch, no I didn't:P
[15:52] <vanhoof> cwayne: sup
[15:53] <cwayne> vanhoof: any idea on this guy? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/+bug/1080205
[15:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1080205 in ubuntu-nexus7 "Installation fails, cannot mount root filesystem" [Undecided,New]
[15:54] <vanhoof> cwayne: you're the installer expert ;)
[15:54] <cwayne> lol
[15:54] <cwayne> mfisch: ping
[15:54] <mfisch> cwayne: yes
[15:55] <cwayne> mfisch: how should we approach these bluetooth bugs?
[15:55] <mfisch> cwayne: printer bugs?
[15:55] <cwayne> mfisch: i feel like they're somewhat invalid, using a shenanigans workaround to get bt to work at all
[15:55] <mfisch> yes, I agree
[15:55] <cwayne> mfisch: one printer, one bt-wizard
[15:55] <mfisch> but my vote would just be to ignore them
[15:55] <mfisch> not mark invalid
[15:55] <cwayne> i was going to suggest incomplete
[15:55] <cwayne> until we get bt officially working
[15:55] <mfisch> or say we will retest when BT is fixed
[15:55] <mfisch> dont mark incomplete, the bugs will expire
[15:56] <cwayne> true
[15:56] <cwayne> i'd rather not leave new though
[15:56] <ogra-cb> well, that puts some pressure on the lazy BT guys :)
[15:56] <ogra-cb> "you have 60 days from now on"
[15:56] <mfisch> => commuting
[15:56] <ogra-cb> ;)
[15:57]  * vanhoof thinks about implementing something like this
[15:57] <vanhoof> echo $(((0x0000000700f00000)  >> 30))
[15:58] <vanhoof> cwayne: will take a look
[16:27] <janimo> ogra-cb, what's the R image status?
[16:30] <ogra-cb> janimo, the image with the firmware package added seems to still be building
[16:31] <janimo> ogra-cb, sounds good
[16:31] <ogra-cb> janimo, defaults package is missing yet, i need to find a way to rip out libo and tb
[16:32] <ogra-cb> the current image is 750M big for a simple 6G one thats to bog
[16:32] <janimo> do you know what nux status is?
[16:32] <ogra-cb> {*big
[16:32] <ogra-cb> no idea
[16:32] <janimo> ogra-cb, I guess TB and libo will go after/if we make the split common/full-desktop seeds that were brought up at UDS
[16:32] <ogra-cb> i'll start complaining once i end up without a desktop on my test installs ;)
[16:33] <ogra-cb> GRR
[16:34] <ogra-cb> this touchpad is to sensitive !
[16:34] <highvoltage> that's what she said
[16:34] <ogra-cb> janimo, right, but intul then i want a quick hack that just removes them at the end of the build
[16:34] <ogra-cb> i want images first
[16:36] <suihkulokki> is there a chromebook channel like there is one for ac100 ?
[16:37] <ogra-cb> if there is i dont know about it
[16:41] <brendand> is there a bug for the graphical corruption being seen around the mouse cursor?
[16:48] <ogra-cb> brendand, i doubt it since the cursor is only shown when a mouse is actually plugged in
[16:49] <brendand> ogra-cb, ok - filing
[16:53] <ogra-cb> gah, abootimg error during build
[17:11]  * Snark wonders when the arm chromebook will be available in France
[17:41] <suihkulokki> Snark: you can get it to france from amazon uk
[17:42] <ogra-cb> with uk keyboard though
[17:51] <Snark> that what I would like to avoid
[17:51] <Snark> s/that/that's/
[18:42]  * ogra-cb fires off the next nexus testbuild
[18:43] <infinity> ogra-cb: The new image builder holding up for you so far?
[18:43] <ogra-cb> infinity, yep, i had a weird error with the last build though, that looked a bit like it hadn't properly cleaned up
[18:44] <ogra-cb> mkdir: cannot create directory `userdata': File exists
[18:44] <ogra-cb> i dont think anything but the nexus7 codepath creates that dir
[18:44] <ogra-cb> and there is only one mkdir call
[18:44] <infinity> And did you also clean it?
[18:45] <ogra-cb> i would expect a new build to trigger a full cleaup
[18:45] <ogra-cb> isnt that the case ?
[18:45] <infinity> Not the way live-build works, no.
[18:45] <ogra-cb> ouch, well, seemed somewhat logical
[18:45] <infinity> See live-build/auto/clean
[18:46] <ogra-cb> right
[18:46] <ogra-cb> now that i think about it
[18:46] <infinity> Which, actually, could use a few more additions.
[18:46] <ogra-cb> thats simply the file i never touch :)
[18:46] <ogra-cb> i probably shoudl though
[18:46] <infinity> Oh, no, I moved my gnupg madness to config/, so the current clean works for me.
[18:47] <infinity> But yeah, your userdir stuff should be in there with an rm -rf
[18:47] <infinity> Or userdata, whatever.
[18:47] <ogra-cb> yup
[18:47] <ogra-cb> not fatal if its there though, i'll fix it with one of the next uploads
[18:48] <infinity> cp $PREFIX.rootfs.tar.gz userdata/rootfs.tar.gz
[18:48] <infinity> ^-- That should probably be an ln
[18:48] <infinity> It's not like storage is fast on your builder. :P
[18:50] <ogra-cb> i'm not sure make_ext3fs can use links
[18:50] <ogra-cb> i could make it a mv though
[18:50] <infinity> Hrm?  A hardlink should work fine.
[18:51] <infinity> I didn't mean a symlink.
[18:51] <ogra-cb> oh, ok
[18:51] <ogra-cb> well, but an mv does too i think
[18:51] <infinity> A mv works too, if we don't care about idempotence (and, I guess most of this stuff probably doesn't survive that test)
[18:53] <ogra-cb> well, first i would be happy if my built actually got to that point :P
[18:53] <infinity> Hahaha.
[18:53] <infinity> Picky, picky. ;)
[18:53] <infinity> You really should be doing most of your livefs testing locally.  It's not hard.
[18:53] <ogra-cb> well, it should be mostly done now
[18:54] <ogra-cb> i know its not hard
[18:54] <infinity> You say that every time I suggest local testing. ;)
[18:54] <ogra-cb> ARGHH !
[18:55] <ogra-cb> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libreoffice-common_1%3a3.6.2~rc2-0ubuntu5_all.deb (--unpack):
[18:55] <ogra-cb>  corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[18:55] <ogra-cb> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[18:55] <ogra-cb> :(
[18:56] <ogra-cb> infinity, ^^^
[18:56] <ogra-cb> looks like the error is back
[19:00] <infinity> ogra-cb: Just get a webop or GSA to reboot the machine and then try harder.
[19:00] <infinity> Or, I'll do that.
[19:01] <ogra-cb> k
[19:50] <infinity> ogra-cb: That builder should be reboot, BTW, if you want to try harder.
[20:00] <ogra-cb> ok, i'll kick off another one
[22:46] <ogra-cb> grmbl
[22:46] <ogra-cb> what bloated our default initrd so massively ?
[22:54] <ogra-cb> hmm, why do i end up with all that lvm2 stuff on the newxus but dont have it on the ac100
[22:55] <ogra-cb> and btrfs
[22:58]  * ogra-cb gives up for the day ... that will stilll need more fine tuning
[22:59] <ogra-cb> seems evertyhing exploded ... even the nexus kernel binary is suddenly 4.5M big
[23:00] <ogra-cb> janimo, any idea if tim changed any options from our defaults ? 4.5M seems pretty big to me
[23:00] <ogra-cb> (thats just vmlinuz)
[23:21] <LisaNori> Is there a LEAP supplicant for LInux?  I'm thinking about moving my Nexus 7 to Linux, but I need LEAP to use the Wifi at work.
[23:53] <infinity> ogra-cb: 4.5M seems normalish for a distro kernel.  Still smaller than my amd64 one by a bit.
[23:57] <infinity> LisaNori: LEAP should work, AFAIK, but I have no network to confirm this on.
[23:57] <lilstevie> ogra-cb, my kernel is 3.5MB and ramdisk is 7MB
[23:57] <lilstevie> for the tf201
[23:59] <infinity> ogra-cb: If lvm2 is sticking around, that would be an installer failure, since it's meant to remove it if you didn't create any lvm2 bits in the installer.
[23:59] <infinity> ogra-cb: If this is an oem-config setup, lvm2 shouldn't be there at all, unless something's gone a bit wrong.