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| BigWhale | Good morning all. | 04:30 |
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| pitti | Bonjour | 04:57 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:44 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks, ça va? as-tu eu un bon week-end? | 07:09 |
| didrocks | guten morgen pitti. Bon week-end, you! jdll à Lyon, donc beaucoup de discussions libristes. Seb, vincent, fredp étaient là. | 07:10 |
| didrocks | et toi? | 07:10 |
| pitti | oh, un week-end de conférence | 07:11 |
| pitti | didrocks: mon femme et moi sommes allés à un hotel wellness | 07:11 |
| pitti | nous avons eu un temps ensoleillé | 07:12 |
| didrocks | pitti: relaxant et reposant donc? | 07:12 |
| pitti | so we enjoyed some hiking, sauna, a massage, and a suite with a whirlpool :) | 07:12 |
| pitti | didrocks: en effet! | 07:13 |
| didrocks | nice ;) | 07:13 |
| pitti | didrocks: c'était une surprise | 07:13 |
| pitti | I picked her up at work on Friday, she didn't know anything beforea | 07:14 |
| didrocks | pitti: bien joué ;) | 07:15 |
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| Laney | ahoy hoy | 09:00 |
| didrocks | hey Laney, how are you? | 09:01 |
| Laney | hey didrocks - not bad thanks! | 09:02 |
| * Laney just google translated the previous conversation ;-) | 09:02 | |
| Laney | -1 to this default language switch :P | 09:02 |
| didrocks | :) | 09:05 |
| seb128 | hey desktopers | 09:15 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 09:16 |
| seb128 | didrocks, lut ;-) | 09:17 |
| mlankhorst | oui! | 09:24 |
| mlankhorst | Laney: oui pour langue français officiêl! | 09:24 |
| mlankhorst | Hope I didn't butcher that too much. :-) | 09:25 |
| didrocks | seb128: do you have the push to reveal launcher broken? | 09:36 |
| seb128 | mlankhorst, hey ;-) | 09:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no, but I didn't upgrade today yet | 09:37 |
| didrocks | jibel told me he's seeing this on ati, intel, and I can reproduce | 09:40 |
| didrocks | I wonder if the xorg update is the culpurit | 09:40 |
| Laney | ppa unity or archive? | 09:40 |
| didrocks | archive | 09:40 |
| Laney | let me try then, just dist-upgraded | 09:40 |
| Laney | yeah, got it | 09:41 |
| didrocks | thanks for confirming Laney | 09:41 |
| Laney | on the left monitor only, the barrier between screens works and reveals it | 09:41 |
| didrocks | still the main use case :) | 09:42 |
| Laney | nvidia | 09:42 |
| didrocks | ok, we got all covered | 09:42 |
| didrocks | intel, ati, nvidia | 09:42 |
| didrocks | bryce: FYI ^ Can you please have a look at it and we should really have the unity tests running before pushing the xorg packages? (if xorg is really the culpurit here, which seems really likely) | 09:43 |
| Laney | wow | 09:46 |
| Laney | bug #1073724 | 09:46 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1073724 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Pointer barriers have gaps along the edge of the screen" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1073724 | 09:46 |
| Laney | known to break stuff ... ? | 09:46 |
| Laney | mlankhorst: ^- should we revert this patch? | 09:49 |
| seb128 | seems like we should yes | 09:51 |
| didrocks | I agree | 09:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey, so this udisk bug ... seems like it's users of old fs formats | 09:52 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 09:52 |
| pitti | seb128: not quite -- we have ACLs enabled for ext2 and ext3 | 09:52 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 09:52 |
| tjaalton | I'll revert it | 09:54 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll ask for getting ssh access | 09:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok | 09:54 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, thanks | 09:54 |
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| mlankhorst | Laney: ok I'll revert it | 10:03 |
| Laney | mlankhorst: tjaalton just said he would | 10:03 |
| mlankhorst | at least saves sru paperwork for that patch :) | 10:04 |
| tjaalton | mlankhorst: yeah I'm on it | 10:07 |
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| desrt | good morning, folks | 13:22 |
| attente_zzz | g'morning | 13:23 |
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| larsu | desrt, attente, good morning! | 13:28 |
| attente | larsu hi! | 13:28 |
| desrt | productive weekend? | 13:30 |
| larsu | unfortunately not, I was a bit sick. (You're asking about GActionMuxer again, aren't you?) | 13:31 |
| desrt | larsu: hey. i just remembered GActionMuxer. how's that coming? | 13:32 |
| larsu | lol. Jut as well as GSettings list I imagine | 13:32 |
| larsu | s/Jut/Just | 13:32 |
| * desrt slayed a whole load of paperwork this weekend | 13:33 | |
| larsu | sounds like fun! | 13:34 |
| cyphermox | good mornign! | 13:42 |
| desrt | cyphermox: word up | 13:42 |
| cyphermox | desrt: yo | 13:43 |
| larsu | hi cyphermox | 13:43 |
| cyphermox | is it some kind of holiday in europe? :) | 13:43 |
| larsu | not that I know of, but it does seem really quiet in here | 13:43 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 13:43 |
| * desrt laments the lack of general-purpose 'european jokes' | 13:43 | |
| cyphermox | desrt: make them up | 13:44 |
| desrt | (or maybe negative stereotypes is what i'm going for) | 13:44 |
| cyphermox | register them in the big joke registry | 13:44 |
| larsu | not enough stereotypes about europeans? You must be joking... | 13:44 |
| desrt | cyphermox: hahaha i bet those europeans are celebrating SOCIALIST HEALTHCARE DAY | 13:44 |
| desrt | losers | 13:44 |
| desrt | hey wait.... that doesn't work :/ | 13:44 |
| cyphermox | :) | 13:44 |
| cyphermox | yeah, we'd be celebrating too | 13:44 |
| desrt | (lol) http://www.businessinsider.com/stereotypes-in-europe-chart-goes-viral-2012-5 | 13:46 |
| larsu | haha | 13:46 |
| * larsu wonders about the least corrupt thing, given that the last German president needed to step down because of corruption charges... | 13:47 | |
| sbte | pitti, are you there? | 13:49 |
| pitti | hello sbte | 13:49 |
| sbte | pitti, hi | 13:49 |
| sbte | is there anything I can do to help fix this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygobject/+bug/1050358 | 13:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1050358 in emesene (Ubuntu) "emesene crashed with SIGSEGV in tupledealloc.24592()" [Critical,Confirmed] | 13:50 |
| pitti | sbte: nobody maintains the old static bindings any more, I'm afraid; I guess you need to track it down yourself | 13:51 |
| sbte | pitti, it's also in pygobject | 13:52 |
| sbte | the exact same bug | 13:52 |
| pitti | so, for the pygobject developers it would certainly be helpful to reduce the crash to a small reproducer | 13:53 |
| pitti | which doesn't involve creating an MSN account, installing emesene, debuggin the old static bindings, etc. | 13:53 |
| rvr_ | chrisccoulson: When is Firefox 17 going to be released in Quantal? | 14:09 |
| pitti | meh, google online accounts is unnerving; it seems to time out twice a day | 14:18 |
| pitti | kenvandine: ^ is that known? | 14:18 |
| pitti | I almost always have to re-sign in now | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | ugh | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | that hasn't happened to me in a while | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | pitti, did you add that accounts before like beta2? | 14:19 |
| pitti | kenvandine: very plausible | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | try removing them and adding again | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | that bug was fixed | 14:19 |
| pitti | but it was rather quiet for some months, it just started nagging again today | 14:19 |
| pitti | kenvandine: ok, will try | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | and... i think part of it was to store something different | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | humm... could be a sign of something changing on google's side too | 14:19 |
| pitti | I'll try to remove/re-add jabber as well; empathy keeps showing an error on opening | 14:20 |
| pitti | kenvandine: thanks; I'll try that for a bit | 14:21 |
| kenvandine | thx | 14:21 |
| kenvandine | let me know how it goes | 14:21 |
| kenvandine | great to see some gstreamer 1.0 packages in my morning dist-upgrade :) | 14:33 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, using the ppa? | 14:35 |
| kenvandine | oh... maybe i am :) | 14:36 |
| desrt | lovely | 14:38 |
| desrt | in 20 minutes they're going to turn off power to the building | 14:38 |
| seb128 | desrt, time to go work in a coffee shop? ;-) | 14:38 |
| pitti | hey desrt, how are you? | 14:38 |
| desrt | pitti: peachy | 14:38 |
| seb128 | desrt, hey btw | 14:38 |
| desrt | seb128: hi :) | 14:38 |
| desrt | seb128: meh. i have my solar power system and 3G connection :) | 14:39 |
| ogra_ | oh, when was evolution-indicator dropped ? | 14:39 |
| * ogra_ just tried to install it in raring, seems its gone | 14:39 | |
| jbicha | ogra_: quantal, it needs someone to port it | 14:40 |
| ogra_ | ah, k | 14:40 |
| seb128 | ogra_, cyphermox will reupload it soon, we got a contributor who did the porting work | 14:40 |
| seb128 | ogra_, seems to be working fine | 14:41 |
| seb128 | jbicha, hey | 14:41 |
| jbicha | seb128: howdy | 14:41 |
| cyphermox | yes yes, I was just finishing up today, the patch is upstream now | 14:41 |
| cyphermox | ogra_: ^ | 14:41 |
| ogra_ | seb128, awesome ! | 14:41 |
| seb128 | jbicha, how are you? do you know what's the status of the new ibus/g-s-d/g-c-c stack? | 14:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: I'm sure it's an excuse from desrt to work from the airport :p | 14:42 |
| jbicha | seb128: mterry was working on the appearance panel last week, and I don't know if anyone's started on the ibus indicator or keyboard indicator work | 14:42 |
| desrt | didrocks: how did you know?! | 14:43 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 14:43 |
| jbicha | personally I' | 14:44 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I checked out the vcs to play with that in the train the other day and the g-c-c packaging in the vcs is all broken, like patches don't apply, etc | 14:44 |
| seb128 | jbicha, how did you get it to build at all in the ppa? do you have work you didn't commit? | 14:44 |
| jbicha | seb128: g-c-c builds fine here against raring w/ the desktop ppa | 14:47 |
| jbicha | (I have to log out for 15 min) | 14:48 |
| seb128 | jbicha, lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-control-center/ubuntu patches don't apply though, weird | 14:48 |
| seb128 | jbicha, or do you use another Vcs? | 14:48 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ok, ttyl | 14:48 |
| seb128 | jbicha, hum, ignore that, you did updates since I checked out the Vcs before travelling last week | 14:50 |
| seb128 | ok, I'm out for some exercice, be back in ~1h | 14:51 |
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| Sweetshark | bdrung: that for that magic sync of libcdr! ;) | 15:10 |
| bdrung | "that for that"? | 15:11 |
| Sweetshark | bdrung: ups s/that for that/thanks for that/ | 15:12 |
| bdrung | you're welcome | 15:12 |
| * Sweetshark slaps his fumble fingers. | 15:12 | |
| Sweetshark | bdrung: I expected having to take care of those myself and filed the bugs most as notes to self. so it was a pleasant surprise to find one of them in 'fix released' ;) | 15:14 |
| bdrung | Sweetshark: the sync request appeared on the sponsoring queue. :) | 15:15 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: any good idea on how to handle bug 1079653 and bug 1079665 (both not yet in experiemental in that version, only in an older one) | 15:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1079653 in libcmis (Ubuntu) "please sync a libcmis version > 0.3.0 to raring as it is needed for libreoffice 4.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1079653 | 15:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1079665 in mdds (Ubuntu) "please sync a mdds version > 0.6.0 to raring as it is needed for libreoffice 4.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1079665 | 15:21 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: and bug 1079656 and bug 1079659 (both already created as packages by rene but not yet in experimental) | 15:22 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1079656 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] please sync a liblangtag version > 0.4.0 to raring as it is needed for libreoffice 4.0" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1079656 | 15:22 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1079659 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] please sync a libmspub version > 0.0.3 to raring as it is needed for libreoffice 4.0" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1079659 | 15:22 |
| Sweetshark | it would be nice to have those in raring even if they are not in experimental by FF, I guess. | 15:23 |
| cyphermox | ogra_: waiting for a few more small fixes from the contributor. If you want I can upload this in its current state to a PPA | 15:41 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, hey, just take the vcs code and get it sponsored? | 15:47 |
| bcurtiswx | j/w since a majority of work in previous cycles has gone into staying with GNOME, and this cycle we're sticking with what we have. Is there a area on the Desktop team that will get more focus now? | 16:08 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, it's mostly "stop using GNOME fallback code for unity since GNOME will drop that in 3.8" and "improve performances of Ubuntu so it runs better on devices" | 16:10 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, great thx. and hi :) | 16:10 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, with continued efforts on improving our testing and quality | 16:10 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, hey | 16:10 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, how well do you know the plans for the nexus 7 ? | 16:12 |
| seb128 | well enough, there is nothing too specific or no real "plan" | 16:12 |
| seb128 | we have a bunch of blueprints with workitems | 16:12 |
| seb128 | but it's basically "chase stuff that are eating cpu and/or using memory and improve them" | 16:13 |
| bcurtiswx | is it going to be its own package set, or everything is going into Ubuntu this cycle ? | 16:13 |
| seb128 | we identified some targets already | 16:13 |
| seb128 | like "don't make run services all the time if not needed" | 16:13 |
| seb128 | there is no plan to do anything specific out of Ubuntu | 16:14 |
| seb128 | it's all optimization work that will benefit laptops, etc as well | 16:14 |
| seb128 | we will just have some tweaks on kernel, drivers, and maybe some gsettings key values | 16:14 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, OK. I ask because I was given a nexus 7 to use towards this work, so beyond the wiki page of info I was trying to find out more. | 16:15 |
| seb128 | oh, great | 16:15 |
| seb128 | ogra_, ^ do you have pointers or extra documentation? | 16:15 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: k. well, will make it a 0ubuntu1 then as rene might tweak them still. (I see rene next weekend anyway at the Munich Hackfest, maybe I get him to upload to experimental anyway.) | 16:37 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, yeah, take something under -1 | 16:39 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, you can do -1~ubuntu or something | 16:40 |
| seb128 | or -0ubuntu1 works as well | 16:40 |
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| seb128 | does anyone know how to use ibus there? | 17:43 |
| seb128 | not how to set up an input method, but how to e.g enter chinese glyphs | 17:44 |
| seb128 | like there is some sort of completion list popup that is used ... how is that one working, how does one trigger it? | 17:44 |
| attente | seb128: a bit | 17:49 |
| attente | let's see if i can remember... | 17:50 |
| attente | oh right | 17:50 |
| attente | i just hit Ctrl+Space and it seems to switch | 17:51 |
| attente | 你好 | 17:51 |
| seb128 | attente, right, I can enter some chinese glyphs but I don't see the popdown ui which has options | 17:51 |
| attente | popdown ui? | 17:51 |
| robru | attente, cool, I can see those glyphs correctly in IRC. I wouldn't have expected that ;-) | 17:51 |
| seb128 | attente, http://cdn.alternativeto.net/s/86d591b8-bc93-e011-9798-0025902c7e73_1_full.png | 17:52 |
| seb128 | attente, that popup ui | 17:53 |
| seb128 | attente, or http://desktopi18n.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/gnome-shell-ibus-lookup-window-20120216.png (shell version) | 17:53 |
| attente | seb128: it doesn't appear for you when you switch to Chinese? | 17:54 |
| attente | i see it as soon as i start typing | 17:55 |
| seb128 | attente, no, I can | 17:55 |
| seb128 | ㄊ | 17:55 |
| seb128 | ㄐ吃姿 | 17:55 |
| attente | you can type, but it the popup doesn't appear? | 17:56 |
| seb128 | right | 17:56 |
| attente | weird... | 17:56 |
| seb128 | what desktop do you use? | 17:56 |
| attente | unity | 17:56 |
| seb128 | ok | 17:56 |
| seb128 | well in fact I'm testing the ibus 1.5 update and g-s-d 3.6 from the desktop ppa | 17:56 |
| seb128 | so maybe it's buggy | 17:56 |
| attente | can you try ibus-setup? | 17:56 |
| seb128 | I need to go back to 1.4 to see how it was working | 17:56 |
| jbicha | seb128: you logged out of Unity and logged back in first, right? | 17:57 |
| seb128 | jbicha, yes, I've that installed for 5 days, I rebooted a bunch of times | 17:57 |
| attente | seb128: what do you see under the Input Method tab of ibus-setup? | 17:57 |
| seb128 | attente, chewing | 17:58 |
| seb128 | chinese - chewing | 17:58 |
| attente | oh. weird | 17:59 |
| seb128 | well, I added that one | 17:59 |
| seb128 | there was nothing listed by default | 17:59 |
| attente | ok | 17:59 |
| attente | but even then i don't see that method available to add | 17:59 |
| attente | but it could be traditional v. simplified | 17:59 |
| jbicha | seb128: try Chinese -pinyin | 18:00 |
| attente | robru: hi! | 18:00 |
| robru | attente, hey dude | 18:00 |
| robru | attente, thanks again for everything. how's it going? | 18:01 |
| seb128 | robru, hey, how do you feel this week? better | 18:01 |
| robru | seb128, yeah, nose is still stuffy but I'm generally more clear-headed, yeah. thanks | 18:01 |
| attente | robru: moved yet? ;) | 18:01 |
| robru | attente, two weeks! | 18:02 |
| robru | attente, this is my last week of work, then I took the next week off for packing/moving, then Nov 30th I arrive at the hostel in Victoria to begin looking for an apartment ;-) | 18:02 |
| attente | robru: ah, guess you'll be missing Winnipeg :) | 18:03 |
| robru | attente, not even slightly ;-) | 18:03 |
| jbicha | seb128: chewing doesn't seem to do the pop-down; I don't know if it used to or not but pinyin works fine here in Unity or GNOME Shell | 18:03 |
| seb128 | jbicha, attente: thanks, indeed pinyin works | 18:03 |
| seb128 | damn chewing :p | 18:04 |
| attente | speaking of chewing :) | 18:04 |
| jbicha | attente: lunch time? | 18:04 |
| seb128 | attente, lunch time! ;-) | 18:04 |
| attente | jbicha, seb128 correct! | 18:04 |
| attente | :) | 18:04 |
| seb128 | enjoy! | 18:04 |
| seb128 | jbicha, so, what bugs/feature is missing in the g-c-c 3.6 stack for you out of ibus indicator, keyboard indicator and the new appareance capplet that mterry just landed? | 18:07 |
| seb128 | jbicha, just trying to figure what is remaining to do, I would like to land it this week, we can live without the keyboard indicator for a bit | 18:07 |
| jbicha | 50_ubuntu_systemwide_proxy.patch needs to be rewritten | 18:09 |
| jbicha | we need to decide whether to rewrite or drop 60_ubuntu_nav_bar.patch | 18:10 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I will have a look to 60_ubuntu_nav but dropping should be fine | 18:11 |
| seb128 | is upstream doing anythink for the proxy? they don't have a way to set a default one? | 18:11 |
| jbicha | for g-s-d 3.6.3, 90_set_gmenus_xsettings.patch needs refreshing/rewriting | 18:12 |
| jbicha | seb128: I don't use a proxy but I believe our patch simply allows setting a proxy for all users | 18:16 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ok | 18:17 |
| seb128 | will look at the xsetting one | 18:17 |
| seb128 | jbicha, hum, it seems like we could probably get something upstream for the proxy stuff, I guess that would be useful on other distros as well | 18:17 |
| jbicha | seb128: yes, their proxy panel is a bit incomplete; GNOME's region & language panel allows setting a system language so there is some precedent for that type of feature | 18:20 |
| robru | can anybody point me at some documentation explaining the differences between compat 8 and compat 9 in debhelper? | 23:03 |
| Laney | robru: see the debhelper manpage | 23:03 |
| Laney | that's the best place for such info | 23:03 |
| robru | Laney, ah, thanks | 23:03 |
| robru | was looking for a wiki or something, hadn't thought of man | 23:04 |
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