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| ubottu | bdrung, cody-somerville, Laney, micahg, barry, tumbleweed, stgraber: DMB ping | 14:02 |
| tumbleweed | hi | 14:02 |
| tumbleweed | warning, I'm in the middle of a "planned" outage at work, so my attention is divided | 14:03 |
| bdrung | anyone else? we are not enough even with Laney | 14:05 |
| * stgraber waves | 14:07 | |
| stgraber | my phone thinks the meeting is in an hour though | 14:07 |
| bdrung | DST? | 14:08 |
| stgraber | and it's wrong ;) | 14:08 |
| stgraber | yeah, apparently my calendar event was on some weird timezone instead of UTC | 14:08 |
| tumbleweed | who owns the event? | 14:09 |
| tumbleweed | (do we know?) | 14:09 |
| bdrung | barry | 14:09 |
| bdrung | tumbleweed: or you if we skip unavailable members | 14:10 |
| tumbleweed | I meant the fridge calendar event. The person who put it there can change its timezone | 14:11 |
| bdrung | ups. dunno | 14:11 |
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| tumbleweed | bdrung: aren't you the chair after barry? | 14:12 |
| tumbleweed | I thought we went in the order of https://launchpad.net/~developer-membership-board/+members | 14:13 |
| bdrung | tumbleweed: i was chair when stgraber wasn't attending | 14:13 |
| bdrung | so i will be skipped once | 14:14 |
| tumbleweed | wow, I am next then | 14:14 |
| stgraber | congratulations :) | 14:14 |
| tumbleweed | ok, so shall we get this rolling, we're pretty late already | 14:14 |
| wookey | :-) | 14:14 |
| tumbleweed | #startmeeting Developer Membership Board | 14:14 |
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| tumbleweed | #topic Review of previous action items | 14:15 |
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| tumbleweed | stgraber: is the wiki up to date, there? | 14:15 |
| tumbleweed | they all belong to micahg, as usual: | 14:15 |
| tumbleweed | micahg to document the zentyal packageset | 14:15 |
| tumbleweed | micahg to ask docs people if they want to apply for a packageset | 14:15 |
| stgraber | tumbleweed: yep | 14:15 |
| tumbleweed | so, moving on | 14:16 |
| tumbleweed | #topic Core Developer Application for Wookey | 14:17 |
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| tumbleweed | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wookey/DeveloperApplication | 14:17 |
| tumbleweed | wookey: would you care to introduce your application? | 14:17 |
| wookey | erm, yes. | 14:18 |
| wookey | I've been a DD for over a decade, and recently have been doing some Ubuntu work as side-effect of being in Linaro | 14:18 |
| wookey | I've doing things that affect $everything: cross-building, and multiarch | 14:19 |
| wookey | And when debian is frozen it makes sense to upload things to ubuntu directly | 14:19 |
| wookey | I've been filing patches for some time now and have been encouraged to apply for actual membership so I can do stuff without having to pester others for Ubuntu uploads | 14:20 |
| wookey | Obviously I can do Debian uploads as required already | 14:20 |
| wookey | that's the core of it | 14:21 |
| tumbleweed | thanks | 14:21 |
| tumbleweed | questions for wookey? | 14:21 |
| wookey | currently I'm doing the arm64 bootstrap, mostly in Ubuntu because the multiarch state is much more advanced here | 14:22 |
| barry | sorry folks, system problems this morning :( | 14:22 |
| wookey | look - shiny results: http://people.linaro.org/~wookey/buildd/quantal-arm64/sbuild-ma/status-bootstrap.html | 14:24 |
| tumbleweed | I assume everyone is still busy re-reading your appplication (or twiddling their thumbs or something) | 14:25 |
| tumbleweed | wookey: are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce? | 14:25 |
| wookey | Or there are no questions :-) | 14:25 |
| wookey | tumbleweed: I don't think so | 14:26 |
| wookey | Easy enough to fix | 14:26 |
| xnox | wookey: did any of ubuntu / lp systems require two names? | 14:26 |
| bdrung | i just checked xdeb. the current situation looks good. | 14:26 |
| tumbleweed | thanks, it's where freezes etc are announced | 14:26 |
| wookey | xnox: not that I recall - pleasingly little agravation on that front | 14:26 |
| xnox | wookey: ok cool. | 14:27 |
| wookey | yes xdeb is in maintenance mode now really | 14:27 |
| xnox | (for context http://wookware.org/name.html ) | 14:27 |
| wookey | multiarch is the one true way forward | 14:27 |
| wookey | OK. subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce | 14:29 |
| barry | wookey: you have experience in developing software for debian, ubuntu, and linaro. how would you compare the workflows, and what do you think would be the 1-3 most important things to do to improve developing and sharing s/w across all three communities? | 14:29 |
| wookey | The presuambly tell me when we enter 'stopped syncing' and 'feature freeze' etc? | 14:30 |
| wookey | Hmm. potentially long-answer question :-) | 14:30 |
| wookey | I was surprsied how much difference there is in internal process between debian and Ubuntu. | 14:30 |
| barry | wookey: agreed | 14:30 |
| wookey | That part is almost completely different in many ways | 14:31 |
| wookey | Linaro was effectively just camping on ubuntu processes/machinery for 1st two years, but is now trying to separate itself | 14:31 |
| wookey | I think the sharing part is much more about culture than process | 14:31 |
| wookey | I pretty-much ignored Ubuntu for years, probably like many DDs as 'just another derivative' and not really anything I had to take much notice of beyond getting occaisional patch back | 14:32 |
| wookey | And that was just habit. | 14:32 |
| bdrung | what changed then? | 14:33 |
| wookey | BUt once I had a reason to use it I found some thing easier to get done in Ubuntu than debian, due to very-fast patch turnaround | 14:33 |
| wookey | I got a job where a) official desktop was Ubuntu (ARM), and images being produced were ubuntu (linaro) | 14:33 |
| wookey | Now that I understand the Ubuntu processes I view Debian and Ubuntu as essentially 'the same thing' | 14:34 |
| wookey | And just do work fixes in both as much as possible, with a bias to doing it in Debian first as that's less work all round | 14:34 |
| wookey | I think zak has done a great job of getting Debian and Ubuntu to ignore each other less | 14:35 |
| barry | wookey: quick question: when you work on ubuntu packages, do you generally apt-get source or bzr branch? | 14:35 |
| wookey | So I guess the answer to the question is 'nurture the projects that encourage upstreaming and cross-distro work' | 14:36 |
| wookey | I'm old-fashion - I apt-get source | 14:36 |
| wookey | I was just reading the merging page and thing that maybe I should look at useing that work-flow | 14:36 |
| wookey | thinking | 14:36 |
| wookey | Because it'll be easier to keep moving patches forward that aren't fully upstremaed yet. | 14:37 |
| barry | wookey: cool, thanks for your answers (there's no right or wrong answer, i am just curious :) | 14:37 |
| stgraber | wookey: So, let's say you want to get mythtv into precise-updates on the 15th of January 2013 for a fix that's just been published upstream. What would you do and what can you do? | 14:37 |
| wookey | It is hard work keeping track of patches in quantal/raring/unstable/experiemntal | 14:37 |
| wookey | I'd go read the ubuntu developer docs, and then probably ask someone to check | 14:38 |
| wookey | One good thing about ubuntu is that process is _much_ better documented than debian | 14:38 |
| stgraber | how much do you currently know about the SRU process? did you do any SRU? | 14:39 |
| wookey | I have done a couple of SRUs yes | 14:40 |
| tumbleweed | after this question is complete, we'll go to a vote | 14:40 |
| stgraber | ok, so if you get a fix into Debian experimental that you want into precise-updates, where should you upload that fix? | 14:40 |
| wookey | sorry someon asking questions here | 14:42 |
| wookey | I was wondering today whether Ubuntu ever pulls from experiemntal. The docs say only from testing or unstable | 14:42 |
| wookey | So I presume you never do that. | 14:43 |
| stgraber | well, you can manually sync from experimental, syncpackage lets you do that, we just don't do it automatically | 14:43 |
| stgraber | so let's say you have the new version into raring (as it's where it needs to land first anyway), where do you go from there to get it into precise-updates? | 14:44 |
| bdrung | we often sync from experimental when debian is in freeze | 14:44 |
| wookey | OK, so I guess I'd file an SRU requesting tosync/merge the version from experiemental | 14:44 |
| stgraber | tumbleweed: I guess we're out of time, we probably should vote now | 14:45 |
| tumbleweed | yeah | 14:45 |
| wookey | I don't know. I'd ask #release on IRC | 14:45 |
| tumbleweed | #voters stgraber barry tumbleweed bdrung Laney | 14:46 |
| meetingology | Current voters: Laney barry bdrung stgraber tumbleweed | 14:46 |
| tumbleweed | #vote grant wookey core-dev rights? | 14:46 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: grant wookey core-dev rights? | 14:46 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 14:46 |
| stgraber | +0 [Not satisfied regarding the knowledge of Ubuntu processes but on the other hand, I'm sure wookey will ask before doing anything he doesn't know] | 14:47 |
| meetingology | +0 [Not satisfied regarding the knowledge of Ubuntu processes but on the other hand, I'm sure wookey will ask before doing anything he doesn't know] received from stgraber | 14:47 |
| barry | +0 [more familiarity w/ubuntu process would be good, but i think by asking lots of question for bits you don't know, you'll be okay] | 14:48 |
| meetingology | +0 [more familiarity w/ubuntu process would be good, but i think by asking lots of question for bits you don't know, you'll be okay] received from barry | 14:48 |
| tumbleweed | +1 [ I'm also concerned about the ubuntu process knowledge, I am fairly confident that this wouldn't be dangerous to the project, but would expect more from a core-dev ] | 14:50 |
| meetingology | +1 [ I'm also concerned about the ubuntu process knowledge, I am fairly confident that this wouldn't be dangerous to the project, but would expect more from a core-dev ] received from tumbleweed | 14:50 |
| tumbleweed | err that was supposed to be +0, edting ftl | 14:50 |
| tumbleweed | +0 | 14:50 |
| meetingology | +0 received from tumbleweed | 14:50 |
| tumbleweed | bdrung: ? | 14:51 |
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| bdrung | +0 [ same option as the other voters ] | 14:53 |
| meetingology | +0 [ same option as the other voters ] received from bdrung | 14:53 |
| tumbleweed | #endvote | 14:53 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: grant wookey core-dev rights? | 14:53 |
| meetingology | Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:4 | 14:53 |
| meetingology | Deadlock, casting vote may be used | 14:53 |
| tumbleweed | pish, meetingology | 14:53 |
| tumbleweed | wookey: I'm sorry we couldn't accept your application right now. I suggest getting a little more experience with the procedures around SRUs and freezes | 14:54 |
| wookey | yeah. fair enough. It wasn;t me that said I was ready :-) | 14:54 |
| tumbleweed | hope to see you again soon | 14:55 |
| wookey | I've usually dealing with unstable /letest, so have not worried about SRUs much | 14:55 |
| tumbleweed | #topic Dmitry Shachnev's PPU application for retext and unity-mail | 14:55 |
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| mitya57 | Hi barry, bdrung, stgraber, tumbleweed! | 14:55 |
| barry | hi mitya57 | 14:56 |
| tumbleweed | mitya57: hi, we're able to run over time a little | 14:56 |
| stgraber | wookey: I have no doubt that you are ready from a technical point of view but the freezes and SRU processes are important when contributing to the Ubuntu project so I hope to see you apply again soon | 14:56 |
| tumbleweed | so, we should be able to process your application | 14:56 |
| tumbleweed | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DmitryShachnev/PPUApplication | 14:56 |
| tumbleweed | mitya57: please introduce yourself and your application | 14:56 |
| mitya57 | OK | 14:56 |
| mitya57 | I'm developer of ReText editor and some other smaller projects, usually written in Python | 14:57 |
| mitya57 | In Ubuntu, I'm involved with my apps, their dependencies, and some python stuff | 14:57 |
| mitya57 | Last week I was, for example, adding/fixing dep-8 tests for pygments, python-markdown and nose | 14:57 |
| mitya57 | Earlier this cycle I was involved with Python 3.3 transition of sphinx/python-docutils | 14:57 |
| mitya57 | I'm also Ubuntu packaging guide contributor and do some other random things | 14:58 |
| mitya57 | ... and I'm also Debian maintainer (since this spring) and member of some teams there (Python + JavaScript) | 14:58 |
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| mitya57 | I would like to start with these two packages because these are my "oldest" ones and I've done more uploads for them than for anything else | 14:59 |
| tumbleweed | I saw very little discussion of your Debian work on your application. For reference - http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=Dmitry%20Shachnev | 15:00 |
| mitya57 | tumbleweed, in fact, I'm having 4 unsponsored items in Debian right now, so that list will grow soon | 15:01 |
| mitya57 | (I hope) | 15:01 |
| tumbleweed | :) | 15:01 |
| tumbleweed | any questions for mitya57? | 15:01 |
| bdrung | mitya57: why is unity-mail a native package? | 15:01 |
| mitya57 | bdrung, because it was written exclusively for Ubuntu and I maintain packaging in the same branch as source code | 15:02 |
| bdrung | mitya57: maybe one day unity can be deployed on other systems than Ubuntu (e.g. Debian). will it be still good to have it as native package? | 15:03 |
| mitya57 | bdrung, I think it is possible to change format in future | 15:04 |
| mitya57 | but right now I don't see any need | 15:04 |
| * Laney phases in | 15:04 | |
| mitya57 | Hi Laney | 15:04 |
| barry | mitya57: how painful has it been working with quilt in udd branches? | 15:05 |
| bdrung | barry: very painful (that's what i remember from my last try) | 15:05 |
| mitya57 | barry: for example, patches are stored applied by default but when I create a new patch, it doesn't get applied by default | 15:05 |
| barry | mitya57: i know ;} | 15:06 |
| mitya57 | and also there are some packages whose maintainers don't care about making them build twice in a row, | 15:06 |
| mitya57 | so when you clone such a package from udd it won't build | 15:06 |
| barry | mitya57: perhaps the build tools should help enforce that? | 15:06 |
| mitya57 | "nose" is my recent example | 15:06 |
| mitya57 | barry, of course, but I meant it's not perfect _by default_ | 15:07 |
| barry | mitya57: in the meantime, we could improve the docs i suppose. i can't recall anywhere where this issue is even discussed (though it comes up in sponsor reviews) | 15:09 |
| tumbleweed | mitya57: where you paying attention earlier, and did you subscribe to ubuntu-devel-announce? | 15:11 |
| mitya57 | tumbleweed: I am subscribed | 15:11 |
| mitya57 | "where" — you mean Debian vs Ubuntu? | 15:11 |
| mitya57 | If so, Ubuntu of course :) | 15:12 |
| tumbleweed | *were | 15:12 |
| * tumbleweed is tired, long day of fighting fires at work | 15:12 | |
| tumbleweed | mitya57: so, when do we expect you to come back with a MOTU application? | 15:13 |
| mitya57 | tumbleweed, If I were writing my application today, I would apply for MOTU. But I was writing it in September (and today was the first slot suitable for me)... | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | ... so I decided to leave it as is. | 15:14 |
| tumbleweed | it'd be nice to see work on a wider range of packages, for that | 15:15 |
| mitya57 | tumbleweed, that's in progress :) | 15:16 |
| tumbleweed | as a DM, I assume you're already familiar with the upload process? | 15:16 |
| mitya57 | Yes, I am. The only difference is that our uploads are source-only, right? | 15:17 |
| tumbleweed | yup | 15:18 |
| tumbleweed | and you've the Ubuntu tools for syncing, finding merges you need to do, etc? | 15:18 |
| tumbleweed | you've *seen* | 15:18 |
| mitya57 | yes, I have seen that | 15:18 |
| tumbleweed | bdrung: you have a question? | 15:18 |
| bdrung | mitya57: How does it come that you do your work in Debian first? | 15:18 |
| bdrung | (besides the Ubuntu-only unity-mail) | 15:19 |
| mitya57 | bdrung, I had read that the Debian is primary place to upload new packages to, so I went there... | 15:19 |
| bdrung | good to see that we communicate it clearly :) | 15:19 |
| mitya57 | ah, you said "do", not "did" | 15:19 |
| mitya57 | The ideal workflow for me is getting a package uploaded to Debian, and then getting it synced | 15:20 |
| bdrung | the tool syncpackage is handy for doing the sync | 15:21 |
| mitya57 | bdrung, I meant that when I said I was familiar with the tools | 15:21 |
| tumbleweed | ok, looks like we're done with questions | 15:22 |
| tumbleweed | #vote grant mitya57 PPU rights on retext and unity-mail? | 15:22 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: grant mitya57 PPU rights on retext and unity-mail? | 15:22 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 15:22 |
| Laney | +1 looking forward to you coming back to apply for MOTU soon with a little more experience | 15:22 |
| meetingology | +1 looking forward to you coming back to apply for MOTU soon with a little more experience received from Laney | 15:23 |
| bdrung | +1 | 15:23 |
| meetingology | +1 received from bdrung | 15:23 |
| barry | +1 | 15:23 |
| meetingology | +1 received from barry | 15:23 |
| tumbleweed | +1 | 15:23 |
| meetingology | +1 received from tumbleweed | 15:23 |
| tumbleweed | stgraber? | 15:24 |
| stgraber | +1 | 15:28 |
| meetingology | +1 received from stgraber | 15:28 |
| tumbleweed | #endvote | 15:29 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: grant mitya57 PPU rights on retext and unity-mail? | 15:29 |
| meetingology | Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 15:29 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 15:29 |
| bdrung | mitya57: btw, do you want to become an uploader (in Debian) of ubuntu-packaging-guide? | 15:29 |
| tumbleweed | mitya57: welcome, we hope to see you back soon for MOTU rights | 15:29 |
| tumbleweed | #topic any other business? | 15:29 |
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| mitya57 | bdrung, I won't be against that | 15:30 |
| mitya57 | \o/ thanks everybody! | 15:30 |
| bdrung | mitya57: feel free to add yourself to the list in the bzr branch. | 15:30 |
| tumbleweed | next chair: barry | 15:30 |
| tumbleweed | backup: cody-somerville | 15:31 |
| tumbleweed | anything else? | 15:31 |
| bdrung | reducing the after-meeting-things-to-do list | 15:31 |
| bdrung | can we reduce or automate the paperwork? | 15:32 |
| tumbleweed | not trivially, that i can think of | 15:33 |
| tumbleweed | looks like we've run out of things to say | 15:35 |
| tumbleweed | #endmeeting | 15:35 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Nov 19 15:35:37 2012 UTC. | 15:35 |
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| tumbleweed | thanks everyone | 15:35 |
| barry | tumbleweed: thanks | 15:36 |
| tumbleweed | stgraber: you'll add the PPU rights? | 15:36 |
| * tumbleweed added him to the ubuntu-dev team | 15:36 | |
| stgraber | tumbleweed: yep, sometimes later today (sorta busy atm) | 15:37 |
| dholbach | congratulations mitya57! | 15:41 |
| mitya57 | danke dholbach! | 15:42 |
| dholbach | :-) | 15:42 |
| stgraber | tumbleweed, mitya57: PPU added | 15:43 |
| mitya57 | thanks once again! | 15:44 |
| mitya57 | I will test it soon for new unity-mail :) | 15:44 |
| dholbach | awesome :) | 15:44 |
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| jdstrand | hi! | 18:01 |
| tyhicks | hello! | 18:02 |
| jjohansen | hi | 18:02 |
| jdstrand | #startmeeting | 18:02 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Nov 19 18:02:07 2012 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 18:02 |
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| jdstrand | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 18:02 |
| jdstrand | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 18:02 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 18:02 |
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| jdstrand | I'll go first | 18:02 |
| mdeslaur | hi! | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | it is a short week for me. I'm off Thu and Fri | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | I'm on triage | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | I have a pending update and a small regression fix I need to do for python-django | 18:04 |
| jdstrand | I also am working on packaging for secure boot db/dbx updates | 18:04 |
| jdstrand | I think that is it for me | 18:04 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: you're up | 18:04 |
| mdeslaur | I'm on community this week | 18:05 |
| mdeslaur | and I'm currently working on a python-keyring fix, that is turning into a can of worms | 18:05 |
| mdeslaur | I've almost caught all the worms though | 18:05 |
| mdeslaur | after that, I'll continue going down the list | 18:05 |
| mdeslaur | I have a virt-manager work item I hope to poke at this week too | 18:05 |
| mdeslaur | that's it for me | 18:05 |
| mdeslaur | sbeattie: you're up | 18:06 |
| sbeattie | I have a short week this week, I'm off weds through fri | 18:06 |
| sbeattie | I'm still poking at the display manager apparmor stuff | 18:06 |
| sbeattie | I also am slowly reviewing jjohansen's parser patches | 18:07 |
| sbeattie | that's it for me | 18:07 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: I think micahg's not here at the moment, so you're up | 18:07 |
| micahg | no, I'm here | 18:07 |
| sbeattie | oops, sorry | 18:07 |
| micahg | I've got the Mozilla releases tomorrow and then webkit | 18:08 |
| micahg | and short week (off Thu) | 18:08 |
| micahg | tyhicks: you're up | 18:08 |
| tyhicks | Short week for me as I'm off Thursday and Friday | 18:08 |
| tyhicks | I'm finally wrapping up the audit debdiff for the audit MIR | 18:08 |
| tyhicks | I have a small bit of testing left for the ecryptfs-utils SRU (didn't make much progress on it last week) | 18:09 |
| tyhicks | and the apparmor dbus work | 18:09 |
| tyhicks | that's it | 18:09 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: you're up | 18:09 |
| jjohansen | short week for me as well, I am off Thursday and Friday | 18:09 |
| jjohansen | I am going to finish getting the latest revision of the new interface and rcu locking work up for people to look at and play with (sticking it in a ppa) | 18:10 |
| jjohansen | and then I will try to get the labeling part of the stacking work up for people to play with before the end of the week | 18:10 |
| mdeslaur | bunch of turkey eaters | 18:10 |
| jjohansen | that is it for me, sarnold your up | 18:11 |
| jjohansen | Mmmmm turkey | 18:11 |
| sarnold | short week for me, off thursday, will be eating mashed potatos and who knows what else... mmm. | 18:11 |
| * micahg won't be having turkey, but that's another story | 18:12 | |
| sarnold | still working on the perl update, some new tests added with cgi.pm security patches are failing during builds, it will take some investigation, as the problem wasn't obvious. | 18:12 |
| sarnold | I'll answer the testing team's question about uinput today, here's hoping that simple facl are sufficient.. | 18:12 |
| sarnold | slightly off-topic, I installed my pandaboard this weekend :) fun little thing. | 18:13 |
| sarnold | jdstrand: here's the token! | 18:13 |
| mdeslaur | sarnold: let me know if you get stuck with the perl stuff | 18:13 |
| sarnold | mdeslaur: thanks | 18:13 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 18:13 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages | ||
| jdstrand | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 18:13 |
| jdstrand | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 18:13 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/freeciv.html | 18:13 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ziproxy.html | 18:13 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/glusterfs.html | 18:13 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/smarty3.html | 18:14 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/pgbouncer.html | 18:14 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 18:14 |
| mdeslaur | sarnold: I believe the old thinkfinger packages used to override permissions for uinput, maybe you can take a look at that | 18:14 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions | ||
| jdstrand | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 18:14 |
| sarnold | mdeslaur: ooh, quite old, edgy. :) thanks. | 18:15 |
| mdeslaur | sarnold: could have been in a ubuntu-specific patch also, can't remember | 18:17 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur, sbeattie, micahg, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold: thanks! | 18:18 |
| jdstrand | #endmeeting | 18:18 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Nov 19 18:18:20 2012 UTC. | 18:18 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-11-19-18.02.moin.txt | 18:18 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-11-19-18.02.html | 18:18 |
| mdeslaur | thanks jdstrand! | 18:18 |
| micahg | jdstrand: thanks | 18:18 |
| jjohansen | thanks jdstrand | 18:18 |
| tyhicks | thanks! | 18:18 |
| sarnold | thanks jdstrand :) | 18:18 |
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