[00:06] <dogmatic69> rm some/git/dir
[00:07] <dogmatic69> rm: remove write-protected regular file some/git/dir/.git/foo
[00:07] <dogmatic69> [n]
[00:07] <dogmatic69> crash...
[00:07] <dogmatic69> wtf
[00:07] <dogmatic69> every time.
[00:08] <dogmatic69> ram just climbs until full, moves onto swap, and then dies.
[00:10] <dogmatic69> any ideas?
[00:12] <dogmatic69> This is damn annoying. The serve is running as my DNS, after it crashes mounts to another NAS server hangs my pc and I have to restart everything
[00:13] <dwatkins> dogmatic69: could there be a circular link in there?
[00:14] <Darael> What's the aim?  Remove the entire git repo?  Clear the working tree leaving the /repository/ intact?  Something else?
[00:15] <dogmatic69> dwatkins: its actually when I ctrl + c on the delete
[00:15] <dwatkins> dogmatic69: what is?
[00:15] <dogmatic69> Darael: ye, was trying to remove a repo
[00:16] <Darael> dogmatic69: Then for a start, I'd suggest answering [y] to the question, so that it actually deletes the things in the .git folder.  If nothing else, the query will stop coming up every time.
[00:16] <dogmatic69> Darael: do you know how many files there are in .git with a large repo?
[00:17] <Darael> dogmatic69: then how about rm -rf /path/to/repo/.git first?
[00:17] <dogmatic69> I should have done sudo rm the_dir so it does not ask
[00:17] <dogmatic69> sudo rm /path/to/repo/ works, but it should not crash
[00:18] <dogmatic69> and last time this happened, after the reboot eve "cd /path/to/repo/" crashed the server
[00:21] <dogmatic69> closed the terminal and tried to ssh back in, after a few minutes I got http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1420782388
[00:22] <dogmatic69> and then it was not locked up because nothing loaded, so was able to 'sudo reboot'
[01:17] <Tonato> Hi, anyone from London?
[01:17] <Azelphur> I imagine so, perhaps nobody awake at this time however, I'm sort of near to london
[01:18] <Tonato> Hi azelphur, Cool, I was looking for an irc from UK, I think this is one...
[01:18] <Azelphur> it is xD
[01:18] <Tonato> great
[01:19] <Azelphur> we're mostly Ubuntu users in the UK, although there are people from various other countries in here too
[01:19] <Tonato> hm...ubuntu its a OS? isnt it?
[01:19] <Azelphur> yep
[01:19] <Tonato> apologies for my ignorance on this
[01:19] <Azelphur> np :)
[01:20] <Tonato> I was just looking for an irc or channel related to musicians in uk/london,
[01:20] <Azelphur> ah
[01:20] <Tonato> as I am a musician and Id like to chat with other musicians in london
[01:20] <Azelphur> not too sure about that, I don't imagine there'd be anything on freenode for it, freenode is for open source projects mostly
[01:20] <Tonato> I understand
[01:21] <Azelphur> you may also be interested in #opensourcemusicians, they do music with open source software xD
[01:21] <Azelphur> but arn't all in England obviously, I personally play piano xD
[01:21] <Tonato> Do u know where I can research about different irc, like a list or something like that?
[01:22] <Azelphur> you can get lists of channels on the network, but I don't imagine you'd find specifically what you are after on freenode
[01:22] <Tonato> yes, I know what u mean
[01:22] <Tonato> I ll googl irc london musicians, or things like that...
[01:22] <Azelphur> maybe you'll find something, but i doubt it
[01:23] <Tonato> hm
[01:23] <Tonato> so do u have any advice on how I can research? thanks man
[01:23] <Azelphur> no idea on how you'd find a channel for that, I doubt one exists.
[01:23] <Tonato> hey
[01:23] <Tonato> its london
[01:23] <Tonato> it should exist an irc for londoners
[01:24] <Tonato> and a channel for musicians
[01:24] <Azelphur> maybe so, maybe there's an irc for musicians, that would be a good thing to look for
[01:24] <Tonato> ok
[01:24] <Tonato> thanks dude
[01:24] <Azelphur> yw :)
[01:25] <Tonato> see u!! off to sleep now!
[01:25] <Azelphur> cya
[01:25] <Tonato> ha.. bye!
[07:18] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:20] <knightwise> hy MooDoo
[07:21] <MooDoo> :)
[07:23] <knightwise> hopw ar you this fine morning
[07:33] <MooDoo> knightwise: at work so not too bad, just wish my eyes would focus :) you ?
[07:33] <knightwise> downing my second cup of coffee
[07:34] <knightwise> so i kinda feel like Ripley when she wakes up from cryosleep
[07:34] <MooDoo> hehe
[07:34] <MooDoo> makes a change for me to get up before the kids this morning lol
[07:35] <knightwise> i'm an early bird,
[07:35] <knightwise> 5.30 am , and i'm up
[07:35] <MooDoo> knightwise: yeah same here
[07:35] <MooDoo> then again i start work at 7am this week
[07:39] <MooDoo> morning popey
[07:41] <knightwise> hey popey  !
[07:41] <knightwise> TOp of the mornin to ya
[07:42] <daubers> Morning
[07:44] <MooDoo> morning daubers
[07:48] <knightwise> hey daubers
[07:49] <knightwise> technical question : Say I have 2 netwerkports on my system
[07:49] <knightwise> one wired
[07:49] <knightwise> one wifi
[07:49] <knightwise> and I have 2 routers (my ISP's router) and my own router behind that one
[07:50] <knightwise> Say i hook up the wifi to my isp's router
[07:50] <knightwise> and my wired connection to my own router
[07:50] <MooDoo> morning TheOpenSourcerer
[07:51] <knightwise> is it possible to run a firewall one just one nick ? (i dont want my machine to act as a router, but I would like to expose one machine to internet and keep all of my other vm's nicely behind my own router
[07:51] <TheOpenSourcerer> lo
[07:51] <TheOpenSourcerer> knightwise: You can assign virtual nics to a nic
[07:51] <TheOpenSourcerer> eth0:n
[07:52] <knightwise> but then i would need to plug in the cable .. Where ? on my own lan or on the lan behind my isp ?
[07:53] <TheOpenSourcerer> You would still want to route (or possibly bridge I guess) but a single nic can handle multiple independent network address ranges
[07:55] <popey> morning
[07:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> morning popey
[07:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> Nice weekend?
[07:55] <popey> ya :)
[07:55] <popey> you?
[07:55] <popey> how was the pork?
[07:56] <TheOpenSourcerer> Do go to Morrisons when you get a mo. The veg section is rather amazing.
[07:56] <TheOpenSourcerer> :-D
[07:56] <TheOpenSourcerer> Pork burgers were yummy
[07:56] <TheOpenSourcerer> As was the samphire - even the kids liked it.
[08:27] <MooDoo> any recommendations on cheap servers for vm installations?  just hardware, for home
[08:27] <knightwise> hahah :) MooDoo did you listen to kw404 by any chance ?
[08:29] <MooDoo> knightwise: no ?
[08:30] <knightwise> its about Proxmox and my guest talks about the system he got for it
[08:30] <popey> MooDoo, HP Microserver
[08:32] <MooDoo> thanks popey
[09:06] <directhex> non-beta tf2 added to steam linux beta :D
[09:06] <Laney> woot
[09:06] <czajkowski> morning folks
[09:08] <MooDoo> morning czajkowski
[09:11] <diplo> Morning all
[09:11] <MooDoo> hello diplo
[09:12] <diplo> Don't see you so much recently MooDoo, how are things ?
[09:12] <diplo> Anyone here tried Ubuntu TV ?
[09:13] <MooDoo> diplo: yeah trying to rectify that :) things are ok :)
[09:17] <popey> diplo, ya
[09:17] <diplo> Was debating trying it popey on reinstall of my revo this week or next
[09:17] <diplo> Worth a play ?
[09:18] <popey> not right now, under heavy development as it gets a rewrite
[09:20] <diplo> kk ta, beta xbmc it is :)
[09:20] <popey> ya
[09:34] <diplo> So good weekend all ?
[09:35] <diplo> And another question, how to track down what is using swap on my vps...
[09:39] <popey> diplo, you can see that in top
[09:39] <popey> press O, p, enter
[09:39] <popey> 24556 alan      20   0 3967m  93m 8052 S    0  1.2  10:01.15 3.8g rhythmbox
[09:39] <popey> the 3.8g column is swap
[09:39] <diplo> yeah, I can't see what is causing it though, nothing huge
[09:39] <diplo> blimey, why is RB using so much swap for you ?
[09:39] <popey> whats the problem?
[09:39] <popey> no idea
[09:40] <popey> i dont believe it anyway :)
[09:41] <popey> oh that column isnt swap, its how much would be needed if it did all swap out
[09:41] <mgdm> that's probably just because it's linked to almost every lib on the system
[09:42] <popey> http://northernmost.org/blog/find-out-what-is-using-your-swap/ is good
[09:42] <diplo> ta, looking now
[09:43] <diplo> My vps got up to about 200mb of swap usage when ram was only using 120/140mb
[09:43] <diplo> Was wondering why that's all
[09:44] <popey> PID=4089 - Swap used: 117564 - (ubuntuone-syncd )
[09:44] <popey> main culprit on my laptop
[09:47] <JamesTait> Happy Monday, everyone! :-D
[09:48] <mgdm> using swap space is not bad in itself, it's when it's actively moving things back and forth that things get slow
[09:51] <popey> ya
[09:52] <danfish> JamesTait: happy and monday should never been used in the same sentence!
[09:52] <gord> that reminds me, need more ram. 8gb just isn't enough to run a 3gb VM *and* thunderbird
[09:54] <JamesTait> danfish, every day is a happy day (for a certain definition of happy).
[10:06]  * popey also needs more ram
[10:08] <popey> yay! desktop will take 16GB! http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=H61M-E23&Cat=RAM
[10:09] <hoover> Morning all
[10:09] <popey> http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=Thinkpad%20X220&Cat=RAM says x220 wont take it
[10:09] <popey> others suggest it works
[10:10] <directhex> x230 claims to support 16G
[10:10] <directhex> dunno about x220
[10:11] <SuperMatt> I daren't ask why you need 16Gig of Ram
[10:11] <SuperMatt> unless you have more than 5 tabs open in firefox
[10:12] <popey> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Komputerbay-PC3-12800-1600MHz-204-Pin-10-10-10-27/dp/B007Q2JQNW/ apparently works
[10:12]  * Laney has 32
[10:12] <Laney> feels excessive, and probably is
[10:12] <popey> SuperMatt, VMs
[10:13] <SuperMatt> ah yes, fair point
[10:13] <AlanBell> does unity run accellerated in virtualbox yet?
[10:13] <SuperMatt> yup
[10:13] <popey> yes
[10:13] <SuperMatt> http://askubuntu.com/questions/207813/why-does-an-ubuntu-12-10-guest-in-virtualbox-run-very-very-slowly
[10:14] <SuperMatt> that link is shamelessly stolen from popey
[10:14] <popey> http://askubuntu.com/a/214968/612
[10:15]  * AlanBell sells soul to Oracle and upgrades
[10:16] <SuperMatt> I love to use libvirt/kvm, but for the life of me I can rarely get the spice stuff working correctly. I think sometimes I just need to use magic to get the right selection of packages.
[10:22] <czajkowski> popey: any idea why the Restart later button has vanished on updates and forces you to restart machine ?
[10:23] <ali1234> because free software is not and has never been about choice
[10:24] <ali1234> stop complaining, you just hate change, etc
[10:24] <czajkowski> ironic coming from you
[10:25] <ali1234> yes. satirical irony :)
[10:26] <popey> czajkowski, ask mpt
[10:26] <popey> software updater (ick!) is his baby
[10:27] <diplo> PID=858 - Swap used: 17072 - (named )
[10:27] <diplo> PID=19122 - Swap used: 36512 - (mysqld )
[10:27] <diplo> Seems to be biggest 2 users, wonder why using swap over ram
[10:30] <ali1234> because the memory hasn't been accessed for ages
[10:30] <ali1234> which is not unusual for mysql
[10:30] <ali1234> named is probably just leaking
[10:30] <diplo> :)
[10:30] <diplo> I don't use it anyhoo, so may just stop it
[10:31] <diplo> I thought I had already
[10:34] <AlanBell> yay, I have unity3d in virtualbox without llvmpipe
[10:35] <SuperMatt> \o/
[10:37] <AlanBell> one day the host won't steal super and alt from guests
[10:37] <SuperMatt> there is a bug raised about that
[10:37] <SuperMatt> in fact, I raised it
[10:37] <SuperMatt> I think we *might* see something in the next release, though I can't be certain
[10:38] <SuperMatt> lemme go back over my bugs
[10:38] <brobostigon> good morning everyone
[10:38] <popey> SuperMatt, its being worked on
[10:39] <SuperMatt> popey: yarr, I know
[10:40] <SuperMatt> I just checked my bug and it seems it's likely to be fixed in compiz 0.9.9.0
[10:40] <SuperMatt> one assumes that means raring will have the fix
[10:41] <popey> it will have to go to raring first
[10:41] <popey> before 12.10 and 12.04
[10:41] <popey> this is normal for SRUs
[10:41] <AlanBell> and it would be a host fix
[10:42] <SuperMatt> SRU?
[10:43] <SuperMatt> clearly not scottish rugby union
[10:43] <AlanBell> stable release update
[10:43] <SuperMatt> gothcha
[10:57] <czajkowski> anyone ever bought from http://www.find-me-a-gift.co.uk ? any bad stories I should know about?
[10:58] <SuperMatt> never used it myself, so that doesn't really help you
[10:58] <SuperMatt> sorry bud
[10:59] <czajkowski> http://www.trustpilot.co.uk/review/www.find-me-a-gift.co.uk  1 bad review out of 27
[11:00] <SuperMatt> might be legit, but I don't often trust online reviews
[11:00] <czajkowski> nods
[11:00] <SuperMatt> I always get a sneaky suspicion that the reviews are made up
[11:00] <czajkowski> I think I'll search for the stuff on amazon and buy from Amazon tbh
[11:01] <czajkowski> SuperMatt: no faith in people being honest eh ;)
[11:01] <SuperMatt> not when anyone can create an account and praise/slander someone
[11:04] <czajkowski> popey: http://launchpad.net/bugs/1033226
[11:06] <popey> well
[11:06] <popey> fmag is just a way of them getting your amazon affiliate revenue
[11:08] <popey> http://www.amazon.co.uk/?tag=u1webapp-uk-21 use that instead :D
[11:08] <czajkowski> ah didnt know that
[11:08] <czajkowski> found 4 of the gifts I wanted on the fmag site on amazon all sold by fmag but 2 quid more
[11:12] <czajkowski> popey: everything is in the shopping basket ready for pay day to check out and have them all delivered for xmas :D
[11:13] <czajkowski> all bar 3 now :s
[11:17] <theopensourcerer> Here is someone who won't be using Amazon again: http://www.samnazarko.co.uk/?p=31
[11:31] <SuperMatt> Do amazon actually *have* to refund the licence for windows?
[11:31] <SuperMatt> If they are considering it as a bundle they're providing, I don't think Amazon would have to give the money back
[11:31] <dwatkins> I thought you had to contact Microsoft for a Windows refund.
[11:31] <SuperMatt> it's like saying "I bought it's multipack of crisps, but I don't want the salt and vinegar ones, can I have a refund on them please?"
[11:32] <dwatkins> It's quite possible to get the refund, a colleague of mine did it as she only ran SuSE on her Dell laptop.
[11:33] <SuperMatt> I do understand it's possible, but I don't believe that amazon are duty bound to give the refund
[11:33] <dwatkins> SuperMatt: indeed, I would have gone straight to MS for this
[11:35] <dwatkins> perhaps it's changed, I found an article from 2010 with an example of getting a refund via Dell.
[11:36] <popey> the EULA tells you to go to the vendor
[11:36] <SuperMatt> oh really?
[11:36] <popey> "“If you do not agree to the terms of this EULA, you may not use or copy the SOFTWARE, and you should promptly contact Manufacturer for instructions on return of the unused product(s) for a refund in accordance with Manufacturer’s return policies"
[11:37] <popey> you basically get given the run-around
[11:37] <SuperMatt> indeed
[11:37] <SuperMatt> I would say then this person shouldn't be contacting amazon, but contacting samsung instead
[11:38] <SuperMatt> because they use the term Manufacturer
[11:38] <popey> and when you do that, the manufacturer tells you to go to the place you bought it
[11:38] <popey> hence "run around"
[11:39] <SuperMatt> fair enough
[11:39] <dwatkins> so you resort to blogging about it, and wishing you'd never bothered :-/
[11:40] <popey> wonder what happens if you try and get an Ubuntu refund on a Dell :)
[11:41] <AlanBell> if only you could buy Ubuntu on a Dell to find out
[11:42] <Daviey> lol
[11:43] <SuperMatt> I thought you could
[11:43] <ali1234> you could for a while
[11:43] <ali1234> then you couldn't
[11:43] <AlanBell> only in china
[11:43] <ali1234> but maybe soon you can again
[11:43] <ali1234> or maybe not
[11:43] <popey> s/dell/whoever/
[11:44] <AlanBell> dell do things like wave that sputnik thing about when it is launched, and leave it to become old before letting anyone buy it
[11:45] <popey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed
[11:45] <popey> never seen that page before..
[11:50] <diplo> Anyone done anything with ldap before?
[11:50] <diplo> I've tried a few times and failed at setting it up
[11:51] <diplo> Any tips/advice/blogs that can be recommended I'd take on :)
[11:51] <SuperMatt> diplo: have you done the stuff on help.ununtu.com?
[11:51] <SuperMatt> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[11:52] <diplo> I've tried following it a few times but fail each time
[11:52] <diplo> May I'll try again and then get help when I fail
[11:53] <diplo> maybe*
[11:59] <SuperMatt> why oh why didn't I know about watch -d before
[11:59] <SuperMatt> I've been using watch -n1 for ages
[12:37] <kirrus> watch -d looks awesome
[12:38] <popey> i used to use "watch -d cat /proc/mdstat" to watch my RAID arrays rebuild
[12:38] <popey> now I use btrfs, I don't do that
[15:04] <jacobw> i've never tried using sata2 and sata3 in the same raid
[15:04] <jacobw> does it work :|
[15:08] <SuperMatt> I can't see why not
[15:13] <SuperMatt> what kind of raid setup would you be using?
[15:24] <dwatkins> I assume it would force the entire array down to the lower of the available speeds, obviously
[15:24] <SuperMatt> possibly
[15:28] <directhex> what kind of raid?
[15:28] <directhex> i.e. hardware or software?
[15:45] <Moz> j #clutter
[15:47] <popey> AlanBell, http://planet.ubuntu-uk.org/  what more text do you want there in the body and/or rss feeds?
[16:05] <ali1234> so i changed the cpu govenor on my phone from on-demand to conservative and it makes the battery last about 4x longer
[16:07] <ali1234> turns out the "race-to-idle" thing is nonsense
[16:13]  * gord remembers the days when he could go to websites without being told twenty times that they use cookies
[16:14] <BigRedS> jacobw: I've a half-IDE and half-SATA raid
[16:14] <BigRedS> well, used to have one. It was, er, sloow. But reliable.
[16:15] <AlanBell> popey: that looks fine
[16:16]  * bigcalm wanders in
[16:19] <popey> AlanBell, have fudged the rss feeds too
[16:20] <AlanBell> great
[16:20] <Flashtek> gord: yeah, about 6 weeks ago
[18:46] <gebbione> hi anyone here can suggest how i can find the original password from a dump of a windows domain username:#passwordHash#?
[18:47] <ali1234> depends on windows version
[18:48] <gebbione> XP
[18:48] <ali1234> password hashes are not reversible
[18:50] <ali1234> you need to crack them
[18:51] <gebbione> i did run john myhash.txt
[18:51] <gebbione> still running
[18:51] <ali1234> well yeah
[18:51] <ali1234> it will take a long time
[18:51] <gebbione> Loaded 10 password hashes with no different salts (LM DES [128/128 BS SSE2-16])
[18:51] <gebbione> guesses: 0  time: 0:07:15:05 (3)  c/s: 223994K  trying: -9F__V9 - -9F__IL
[18:51] <gebbione> Session aborted
[18:52] <gebbione> not sure why, it said loaded 10 password hashes when i have 4 lines in the file
[18:52] <ali1234> no idea
[18:52] <gebbione> actually 5 lines
[18:52] <ali1234> it's not something i ever tried to do
[18:52] <ali1234> you know you can just change the password right?
[18:53] <gebbione> how
[18:53] <gebbione> i cannot edit the user when i go in as admin
[18:53] <gebbione> it wont let me
[18:53] <gebbione> as it is a domain specific user not a local one
[18:54] <ali1234> do it on the domain controller?
[18:54] <gebbione> i cant, this is an old machine, controller and network are off
[18:54] <gebbione> i just wanted to login with the user to check for any files left before formatting and stuff
[18:55] <ali1234> meh
[18:57] <ali1234> if it's a computer set for domain login you won't be able to login without beng cnnected to the domain controller anyway
[18:58] <gebbione> you can, dont need to be connected, your profile info is cached and synched later if the domain controller is not available
[18:58] <ali1234> hmm
[19:03] <ali1234> why can't you just look into the user's file with the administrator account?
[19:04] <gebbione> i cannot access AppData folder for sure, but i ll double check now
[19:04] <gebbione> i tried to access that folder and despite having admin i wasnt allowed
[19:25] <diplo> gebbione: Just add Administrator to the users AppData dir structure
[19:26] <diplo> not read up, or just boot with a live disc and copy all data off ?
[19:26] <diplo> Right, off to watch some telly
[20:21] <bigcalm> popey: ping
[20:22] <popey> bigcalm, pong!
[20:22] <bigcalm> Game Over
[20:22] <popey> hmm?
[20:23] <bigcalm> See pm
[20:24] <smarqle> It's so long since I've been here I can't remember my nickserv password :(
[20:24] <Laney> hunter2
[20:24] <bigcalm> Hahaha
[20:24] <bigcalm> *******?
[20:24] <AlanBell> smarqle: if you ask in #freenode someone will be able to sort it out and send you a reset email
[20:25] <smarqle> Thanks AlanBell
[20:25] <smarqle> I might just change my nick an re-register
[20:26] <bigcalm> You haven't been a long time IRC user if you are considering doing that
[20:26] <forgetful> Well I used to be long time user but now I'm more of along term absentee
[20:30] <bigcalm> AlanBell: ping
[20:34] <forgetful> I was wondering. Will the next Ubuntu release be supporting Windows 8 laptops or should I buy second hand?
[20:36] <czajkowski> forgetful: what do you mean supporting windows 8 ?
[20:36] <AlanBell> forgetful: the current release supports uefi and secure boot, I suspect the next one will do too
[20:36] <bigcalm> christel: ping
[20:37] <forgetful> Well I'm really taking about how it will deal with secureboot and UEFI
[20:37] <forgetful> Thanks AlanBell I didn't realise. I haven't bought a new computer for while
[20:38] <forgetful> Ubuntu works fine on the netbook I have but it's 3 years old
[20:43] <bigcalm> czajkowski: ping
[20:44] <czajkowski> pong
[20:44] <bigcalm> YAy
[20:52] <popey> we're also back-porting secure boot support to 12.04.2
[20:53] <popey> due feb next year
[20:53] <popey> so 12.04, 12.10 and every subsequent release will do secure boot
[20:56] <bigcalm> Crayon Physics Deluxe runs on my workstation but crashes out on my laptop. Quite disappointing :(
[20:57] <bigcalm> czajkowski: http://www.sanger.dk/
[20:57] <bigcalm> Old but cute
[21:01] <christel> bigcalm: pong
[21:01] <bigcalm> \o/
[21:01] <Laney> makes me want to clean it
[21:06] <MartijnVdS> Laney: That thing you linked on G+, "Sound it Out", is great :)
[21:06] <Laney> yay, someone watched it
[21:06] <Laney> I loved those two metal guys
[21:07] <MartijnVdS> I just started watching. A Quo fan now :)
[21:10] <MartijnVdS> Liking the background music too
[21:12] <czajkowski> Laney: did you see V 2.0 is out :)
[21:12] <Laney> I did
[21:12] <Laney> kind of lost track of that towards the end
[21:13] <czajkowski> :(
[21:17] <bigcalm> mgdm: you awake?
[21:18] <dogmatic69> bigcalm: you were doing the cakephp stuff?
[21:18] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: ?
[21:19] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: I've got 2 CakePHP 1.1 projects
[21:19] <dogmatic69> ye
[21:19] <dogmatic69> did I show you my Cake project?
[21:19] <dogmatic69> just got a site up for it, http://infinitas-cms.org/
[21:20] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: interesting
[21:21] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: http://infinitas-cms.org/demos/basic-site jumps
[21:21] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: the content is displayed, removed and then slid into place
[21:22] <dogmatic69> ah ye. I saw that before.
[21:23] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: have you done much with phpunit?
[21:26] <dogmatic69> bigcalm: loads, the app has around 2.5k tests
[21:26] <dogmatic69> only scratching the surface though :/
[21:26] <dogmatic69> like 10% coverage if I am lucky
[21:29] <MartijnVdS> Laney: haha, I know people like those metalheads :)
[21:30] <czajkowski> AlanBell: can you mod a IRCC mail please from me
[21:34] <Azelphur> anyone know how I'd get a newer version of bluez in ubuntu 12.04
[21:35] <ali1234> what for?
[21:35] <Azelphur> bugfix that I need
[21:35] <AlanBell> czajkowski: done it
[21:35] <ali1234> build it from source then probably
[21:35] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: great, you might be able to tell me why my tests are being ignored
[21:35] <ali1234> or install the quantal package
[21:36] <Azelphur> can I not grab the package from quantal somehow?
[21:36] <ali1234> sure
[21:36] <dogmatic69> bigcalm: ignored?
[21:36] <Azelphur> ali1234: how? :P
[21:36] <czajkowski> AlanBell: thanks
[21:36] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: yep. one mo
[21:36] <ali1234> http://archive.ubuntu.com/
[21:36] <Azelphur> fun
[21:37] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1371123/
[21:37] <ali1234> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bluez/
[21:37] <ali1234> etc
[21:39] <mgdm> bigcalm: hi
[21:39] <bigcalm> mgdm: aha, I was wondering if you'd done much with phpunit and might know why some of my tests are being ignored
[21:39] <mgdm> bigcalm: probably not enough to diagnose, sorry
[21:40] <bigcalm> Not enough?
[21:42] <dogmatic69> damn, just read some google paper that says to improve latency by 1ms costs $80m
[21:43] <dogmatic69> bigcalm: so what is or is not happening
[21:43] <mgdm> bigcalm: my usage so far has been basic and I've not had that issue
[21:43] <bigcalm> mgdm: ah, thanks anyway :)
[21:43] <dogmatic69> bigcalm: ah, just saw the comments.
[21:43] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: 2 of the tests just aren't called
[21:43] <bigcalm> :)
[21:43] <dogmatic69> try move the bottom one to the top and see
[21:44] <dogmatic69> possible some code is exiting or something (phpunit can catch exits and keep testing other files.. black magic)
[21:44] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: it runs 2 tests and then move on to the next test file
[21:45] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: this is also true when I move the last test to the top of the list
[21:45] <dogmatic69> so it will do the last one if first?
[21:45] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: yes
[21:48] <dogmatic69> bigcalm: that is strange
[21:48] <dogmatic69> never seen that happen before, maybe try update for bugs etc.
[21:49]  * bigcalm pokes pear
[21:50] <bigcalm> Lots of updates but no change to the output of phpunit
[21:53] <AlanBell> czajkowski: done, and ticked the whitelist forever box
[21:54] <czajkowski> cheers
[21:56] <bigcalm> popey: is this a sign that you should be using Outlook calendar? ;)
[21:56] <dogmatic69> bigcalm: maybe try stackoverflow
[21:56] <dogmatic69> or #phpunit maybe
[21:56] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: humm?
[21:56] <bigcalm> Oh, right
[21:57] <dogmatic69> stackoverflow.com
[21:57] <bigcalm> I've been googling but not seeing results yet :)
[21:57] <dogmatic69> ye, I searched too. There is nothing
[21:57] <bigcalm> Plenty of how to skip or ignore tests. None yet about why tests are ignored ;)
[21:57] <dogmatic69> well its not something easy to search for
[21:57] <dogmatic69> exactly
[21:59] <dogmatic69> the 'search' think on nautalis is a real pain in the ass.
[21:59] <dogmatic69> when you just start typing, down to the right.
[22:00] <dogmatic69> you cant ctrl+a the text because the box fades when hitting ctrl. Then you start typing again and the old text is there still
[22:00] <dogmatic69> type + click = fade, type again and text is gone.
[22:02] <brobostigon> anyone axperience of psychosis in connection with epilepsy ?
[22:10] <Azelphur> ali1234: so...the feds want to talk to me about bitcoin
[22:10] <Azelphur> specifically about pirateat40 o.O
[22:11] <czajkowski> we have feds in the UK?
[22:12] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: with lots of code removal I've narrowed it down to using a dataProvider
[22:13] <bigcalm> I think that we lack a federation
[22:14] <daftykins> Azelphur: fame at last? :>
[22:14] <Azelphur> czajkowski: no, the US feds
[22:15] <Azelphur> daftykins: indeed, fame \o/
[22:15] <brobostigon> cool, obama, visiting comunist country, to , aung san suu kyi.
[22:15] <Azelphur> specifically the securities and exchange commission, they are gathering evidence to go after the guy, so figured I'd provide some.
[22:16] <bigcalm> Surely you're not meant to be talking about this if you are part of an investigation?
[22:17] <Azelphur> *shrug* I havn't been told not to talk about anything, they only want to interview people to try and build up a picture of what exactly happened first
[22:17] <bigcalm> Fair enough
[22:17] <Azelphur> there are other people who have also been interviewed and published info surrounding that, too
[22:18] <daftykins> i'm off to do the survey of my new house to be with my old man tomorrow evening, anyone got any suggestions as to stuff to remember to look at? :)
[22:20] <AlanBell> daftykins: check the swimming pool heater works ;)
[22:20] <daftykins> haha
[22:20] <daftykins> oh that's #1 on the list for sure
[22:22] <daftykins> i think you're looking at being a multi-millionaire to afford a pool in Guernsey :D
[22:40] <dogmatic69> bigcalm: you do have some strange use of the dataProviders
[22:41] <bigcalm> I don't need to use a dataProvider. I just need to have access to the Doctrine EntityManager and interact with the database