[00:00] <Zetsumei> Hello, looking for a quick bit of help with dnsmasq does not seem to come back with a dns but gives dhcp out fine and everything just can't find a website.
[00:00] <JemSoft> Zetsumei, maybe I can help.
[00:00] <JemSoft> private me a message.
[00:00] <brandon420> dr_willis, it just says "establising connectino to pulseaudio. please wait." Should i also mention that i am currently listening to music...
[00:01] <hash_> under sound it shows Dummy Output
[00:01] <KM0201> brandon420: is pulseaudio even installed?
[00:02] <dr_willis> dident you say you had no sound earlier?
[00:02] <brandon420> KM0201, Shouldn't it be by default?
[00:02] <KM0201> brandon420: i think so... try sudo apt-get install pulseaudio   see if it installs... that looks like it's not installed
[00:03] <hash_> yes i have no sound
[00:03] <brandon420> dr_willis, I stated that i had to download/use gnome alsa mixer to change my volume.
[00:03] <brandon420> oh
[00:03] <brandon420> opps
[00:03] <dr_willis> brandon420:  so? whats the actual issue then?
[00:03] <walterwoj> can anyone recomend a dynamic dns cleint that works? (ddclient has a bug)
[00:03] <Evil_Eric> http://imm.io/M92H
[00:04] <brandon420> dr_willis, i would like pulse audio to work correctly. So that i can use system>sounds so control my audio
[00:04] <sheerun> dr_willis: kostkon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/449932
[00:05] <sheerun> ubottu: :)
[00:05] <sheerun> It sucks so much
[00:05] <sheerun> This is 2010 ticket
[00:05] <brandon420> KM0201, brandon420@brandon420-M-7315U:~$ pulseaudio
[00:05] <brandon420> E: [pulseaudio] module-ladspa-sink.c: Master sink not found
[00:05] <brandon420> E: [pulseaudio] module.c: Failed to load module "module-ladspa-sink" (argument: "sink_name=ladspa_output.mbeq_1197.mbeq master= plugin=mbeq_1197 label=mbeq control=-30.0,-30.0,-30.0,-30.0,-30.0,-30.0,-30.0,-30.0,-30.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0"): initialization failed.
[00:05] <brandon420> =/
[00:05] <KM0201> brandon420: did you run the command i told you?
[00:05] <brandon420> sorry guys, thought that would be only two lines
[00:05] <brandon420> yeah
[00:06] <brandon420> apt-get install pulseaudio, and it is installed, and the latest version
[00:06] <kostkon> brandon420, close all the apps that you are running that produce audio. They are blocking pulseaudio
[00:07] <KM0201> brandon420: post #2?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1642262
[00:07] <kostkon> brandon420, then try to start pulseaudio again, by just giving: pulseaudio -D
[00:08] <brandon420> kostkon, "Deamon sartup failed."
[00:08] <kostkon> brandon420, :/
[00:09] <brandon420> KM0201, But shouldn't I delete the alsa folder (there isn't one) since I am trying to use pulse as my default?
[00:10] <KM0201> brandon420: if you're trying to use pulse, why on earth do you have alsa installed?
[00:10] <KM0201> that's like getting a drivers license so you can ride a bike
[00:10] <brandon420> I have no idea.
[00:10] <dr_willis> err.. Pulse uses alsa..
[00:10] <KM0201> ok, i stand corrected
[00:10] <KM0201> so just delete /.pulse
[00:10] <dr_willis> ;)
[00:10] <brandon420> All of this started when i set my sound to come out of my hdmi
[00:11] <kostkon> brandon420, what's the output of:  fuser -v /dev/snd/*
[00:11] <kostkon> KM0201, pulse sits on top of alsa
[00:11] <KM0201> kostkon: yeah, so i see
[00:12] <brandon420> kostkon, nothing.
[00:12] <brandon420> I am going to restart real fast to see if deleting that folder worked. brb
[00:12] <kostkon> brandon420, try:  pulseaudio -D -vv
[00:12] <kostkon> ok
[00:14] <walterwoj> Any thoughts on any alternative to ddclient since it is broke in 12.04?
[00:14] <brandon420> that worked. =)
[00:15] <brandon420> Thank you guys <3
[00:16] <KM0201> all it was was a configuration issue apparently
[00:16] <dr_willis> walterwoj:  find a ppa or use source to ise a newer version?
[00:16] <KM0201> deleting /.pulseaudio and restarting, simply set it to default
[00:16] <brandon420> Hmms, I wonder what I did.
[00:17] <KM0201> well, you said it started when you were messing w/ hdmi...
[00:17] <brandon420> I only noticed it after I took my laptop and watched a movie downstairs
[00:17] <brandon420> well, now I know what todo when/if it happens next time.
[00:17] <walterwoj> I tried the ppa install but it didn't fix it, even the nightly build had no effect because of a perl-sha1 issue with freedns
[00:18] <helo> is natty unsupported now?
[00:18] <kostkon> helo, yes
[00:18] <KM0201> !natty
[00:18] <KM0201> nope
[00:18] <helo> i put it on a friend's laptop, and it has worked perfectly for quite some time :)
[00:18] <KM0201> oh i thought you said "supported"... sorry
[00:19] <KM0201> helo: unsupported doesn't mean doesn't work
[00:19] <helo> but she doesn't know anything about linux, but the update manager is bugging her about updating
[00:19] <helo> errr "and the upd"
[00:19] <dr_willis> that can be disabled.
[00:19] <dr_willis> but its most likely a good idea to upgrade to a supported release
[00:19] <helo> it's probably better to just put her on precise...
[00:20] <kostkon> helo, yes
[00:20] <helo> should i back up ~ and do a fresh install, or just use update manager or apt to update it in place?
[00:20] <simplew> anyone here that can help with launchpad?
[00:21] <jCuber> !ask | simplew
[00:21] <Ubuntu-BR> hi, im trying install ubuntu, but, in Install screen, not show /dev/sda (HD), but just /dev/sdb (usb drive).  What I need do for show /dev/sda ?
[00:21] <walterwoj> dr_willis: where would one find a guide for compiling from source to see if that fixes this issue?
[00:21] <KM0201> helo: i'd backup and reinstall 12.04  otherwise, you'll have to go 11.04>11.10>12.04
[00:21] <dr_willis> !compile
[00:22] <dr_willis> walterwoj:  you can use the apt-get build-dep packagename to pull in needed dev packages for anything n the repos. then just grab the source and  go the  ./configure,, make, make install route
[00:22] <KM0201> Ubuntu-BR: sounds like it's not recognizing your sata channel for some reason.. check your BIOS and see if you can set it from "SATA" to "IDE"
[00:22] <dr_willis> or use that tool to make debs from the soruce
[00:22] <simplew> i have uploaded a package in ppa but i did delete it, now i cant upload a new one, i get an email saying the upload failed, how can now see the package version-release of the deleted package to be sure im uploading an incremented release of that package?
[00:23] <walterwoj> dr_willis: will that give me newer source than I get by default in the prebuilt packages?
[00:25] <dr_willis> if you download the latest source.. it will. ;)
[00:26] <helo> KM0201: thanks
[00:26] <walterwoj> way over my head here...lol
[00:27] <dr_willis> there some reason you need the latest?
[00:28] <Ubuntu-BR> KM0201: Ok, I'll.  Now, I'm do an physical format.
[00:28] <KM0201> Ubuntu-BR: i wouldn't completely format the drive in case there's a problem... at least you'll still have windows
[00:29] <xbskid_> How would I go about getting a list of available indicators?
[00:30] <dr_willis> xbskid_:  askubuntu.com has a question with a listing of indicator-applets
[00:30] <Ubuntu-BR> KM0201: but, I run ubuntu-live and Nautilus show /dev/sda, show all files, no problem...  show everything...  but in Install screeen, Not Show /dev/sda, just /dev/sdb
[00:30] <dr_willis> search for indicator applet, and sort by 'votes'  should be the top item
[00:30] <KM0201> Ubuntu-BR: hmm, now that is weird
[00:30] <xbskid> dr_willis: That's not what I'm looking for; I'm looking for a list of indicators installed on my system
[00:30] <wolfmitchell> I'm using Ubuntu Server 12.04 and I installed xinit, but when I do xinit, I get that I can't run the X server. When I try to run it as root, I get that it is a suid-root program and I can't run it as root. How would I fix this?
[00:30] <dr_willis> xbskid:   Not sure then.
[00:31] <dr_willis> wolfmitchell:  why are you running xinit? what are you needing to do>?
[00:31] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[00:31] <mattwj2002> :D
[00:31] <jCuber> helli
[00:31] <jCuber> *o
[00:31] <wolfmitchell> dr_willis, it's a VPS and I want to start using this: https://love2d.org (it won't run on my local computer)
[00:32] <mattwj2002> I am playing around with despotify :)  high quality music from the cli....crazy man
[00:32] <gunarm1> is there any list of all the packages you have to manually install to get gnome desktop without the games and email and chat and rhythmbox and shotwell and simplescan and all that stuff in the metapackage
[00:32] <wolfmitchell> gunarm1, see apt-cache search gnome
[00:33] <dr_willis> vps's often run their own  'variant' of ubuntu. some times with goofy settings/issues. ;(
[00:33] <KM0201> Ubuntu-BR: is it set up in RAID?
[00:33] <Ubuntu-BR> KM0201: very weird, I install Ubuntu in several micros; but this is crazy... I do this:  1) Gparted = (a) remove all partitions and (b) create from scratch 3 partitions.  2) restart and Windows Continue!!!  not delete...
[00:33] <wolfmitchell> dr_willis, would there be a way to get it to work?
[00:34] <gunarm1> wolfmitchell, this is interesting but i'm more looking for a list of a few packages to be able to log into the desktop and have the system tools and maybe firefox
[00:34] <Ubuntu-BR> KM0201: is a Notebook Sony Vaio SVT131a11l
[00:34] <KM0201> Ubuntu-BR: like i said, i'd check your bios, and try changing the hard drives from "SATA" to "IDE" (or it may say "ATA")
[00:35] <Ubuntu-BR> KM0201: very crazy..  nautlis show everything...  and Ubuntu install not show /dev/sda...  and I use this same installation yesterday, no problem.
[00:35] <KM0201> Ubuntu-BR: i've given you the only suggestion i know... i don't know.
[00:36] <kaushal> Hi
[00:36] <kaushal> Any clue regarding http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1369135/?
[00:36] <west> How do I point my main menu Web Browser icon and popup menu from bottom of screen, to point to Chromium by default.
[00:39] <Ubuntu-BR> thank you ;)
[00:40] <almoxarife> west: if you type alt-f2 and type in 'default' does default applications show up?
[00:40] <eamon> How do I make a Facebook account?
[00:40] <eamon> It says I need a special e-mail address.
[00:40] <eamon> What kind of e-mail address do I need?
[00:41] <xbskid> eamon: Trust me when I say you are better off avoiding Facebook altogether.
[00:41] <almoxarife> eamon: a real one?
[00:41] <eamon> Ubuntu V 12.10
[00:41] <eamon>  http://puu.sh/1rLSf
[00:41] <Bl4cklisted> eamon: You want in on a CIA database?
[00:41] <manx_> join #ubuntu-cn
[00:41] <almoxarife> eamon: what xbskid said :)
[00:41] <eamon> I want to read some comments. It says I need to log in.
[00:41] <gunarm1> Bl4cklisted, do you think we have much choice in that?
[00:42] <Bl4cklisted> gunarm1: You can at least avoid using FB
[00:42] <west> almoxarife, no window opens up when i enter default
[00:42] <almoxarife> eamon: yes, you would need an account to read all the comments, or you can use 'cache' perhaps from google search
[00:43] <almoxarife> west: no window when you click alt-f2 ?
[00:44] <west> yes when i enter alt f2 but when i enter defaul in that little window all i get a red circle with a horizontal white line.
[00:44] <west> alt 2 opens up the application finder.
[00:45] <almoxarife> west: you need to get to 'system settings and within it to 'default applications' there you set your browser to what ever you like, that should have your icon click force 'chromium' to start
[00:47]  * almoxarife uses kde so app/util names may differ
[00:50] <mistaknly> filesystem question
[00:50] <zivester> is there something special to be done to get a USB ethernet adapter to work under 12.10? X1 Carbon ultrabook with the Lenovo USB->Ethernet adapter
[00:51] <xbskid-> []]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
[00:52] <west> almoxarife, ok
[00:52] <doug__> How do you get your computer statistics to show up? (Memory, cpu, vram, etc) I'm using Xubintu 12
[00:53] <jrib> doug__: show up where?
[00:53] <almoxarife> doug__: alt-f2 , type 'monitor' , do you get something in response like 'system monitor' ?
[00:54] <doug__> I'm trying to view statistics of my hardware
[00:54] <doug__> for example, how much Vram I have
[00:55] <jrib> doug__: try gnome-system-monitor
[00:55] <almoxarife> doug__: i dont see sysmonitor doing that,
[00:55] <jrib> doug__: erm, you may not have that on xubuntu
[00:56] <almoxarife> doug__: type 'info' instead
[00:56] <doug__> type it where?
[00:56] <almoxarife> doug__: alt-f2
[00:58] <Jordan_U> mistaknly: All flavors of Ubuntu use the same kernel, base system, and repositories (differences are just in the default set of installed packages). Write support is only available for journaled hfs+, exfat support isn't great but can be made to work, all other forms of FAT have great support, as does ntfs (though there is no fsck for ntfs, ntfs filesystem repair must be done from Windows).
[01:02] <mistaknly> the jordan
[01:03] <mistaknly> thx jordan
[01:03] <Jordan_U> mistaknly: You're welcome.
[01:03] <mistaknly> I just want to be able to run all the disks like Knoppix does on an installed ubuntu minimal system
[01:03] <brian__> is their a website or a book that teaches how to compile Ubuntu from source code
[01:04] <iuser> do we need such thing?
[01:04] <mistaknly> I have to support Macs and windows machines and setup samba
[01:04] <iuser> i compiled qemu from source with gold-like options, no issues at all
[01:05] <mistaknly> So I have removable usb drives with hfs and exfat partitions that I need to use to transfer files to another location.
[01:05] <mistaknly> Knoppix works great but only as a LiveCD
[01:05] <yeats> brian__: Ubuntu is a distribution, not just a single program - if you're looking for building a Linux system from source, check out Linux From Scratch
[01:05] <iuser> knoppix is old-school nowadays
[01:06] <Laibsch> I've just upgraded to precise from lucid and fonts are looking awful. Notice how the spacing in http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2012-11-19_01_31_40-5iqMWviI.png is completely off.
[01:06] <iuser> for example, knoppix doesn't support file-based persistence
[01:06] <Laibsch> What's wrong and how do I fix this?  Fonts are bad in a number of places.
[01:06] <almoxarife> brian__: when you are done looking for source build, look also at 'checkinstall'
[01:07] <almoxarife> !checkinstall | brian__
[01:09] <mistaknly> iuser, ok you got me, I have to look that up....(file-based persistence)
[01:10] <iuser> i have merged several advanced and lightweight live usb distros into one ufd
[01:11] <mistaknly> Well I'm not using sql or xml, does that help. I just storing files.  I was doing to do a minimal "network" install.
[01:12] <iuser> so, i have many choices. no persistence, partition-based persistence or file-based persistence
[01:12] <bonhoeffer> anyone know how i can find out how /dev/sdc2 is connected (e.g. usb, or sata, etc)
[01:12] <almoxarife> iuser: i am not sure how what you have done helps mistaknly
[01:12] <iuser> and on-demand package installation.... and other advanced features you don't know
[01:13] <iuser> and everything is copy-2-ram
[01:13] <almoxarife> iuser: better yet, this is not your floor show
[01:13] <almoxarife> iuser: take it to -chat
[01:18] <joker_> help me !  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1369193/
[01:19] <joker_> i'm trying to install nautilus-3.7.1
[01:20] <almoxarife> joker_: root@bt?
[01:20] <blackshirt> nautilus file explorer, ? Its included by default
[01:21] <bonhoeffer> anyone know how i can mount: /dev/sde1       917G  345G  526G  40% /media/New Volume
[01:21] <joker_> almoxarife: bt:hostname
[01:21] <joker_> almoxarife: can you solve me my problem
[01:21] <bonhoeffer> of course i can mount it -- but i can't cd into it
[01:22] <bonhoeffer> cd:cd:10: permission denied: /media/New Volume
[01:22] <joker_> almoxarife: i'm trying to install nautilus-3.7.1 , during ./configure , it gave me that error
[01:22] <bonhoeffer> i'm not even sure what filesystem it is
[01:23] <almoxarife> joker_: no i cant, other than pointing out the obvious, Package requirements (exempi-2.0 >= 2.1.0) were not met <-- it wants something it cant find, get it
[01:23] <brandon420> Is there any way to automaticlly upload screen shots that i take to my personal server?
[01:24] <brandon420> automatically* i fail.
[01:24] <bonhoeffer> is there gui to mount i could try?
[01:25] <almoxarife> brandon420: ftp on a cron job?
[01:25] <bonhoeffer> oh it is a GPT partition
[01:26] <Evil_Eric> mmmm cron
[01:27] <Butcho> anyone help me create a grub2 menu entry for my SciLinux 6.3 install ?
[01:27] <brandon420> almoxarife, would that upload it as soon as i took it?
[01:28] <znusgy> hello -- i've booted from a live cd of 12.04 and tried to resize a partition, and it's been going for more an hour now; but i see the wait cursor, and resize2fs is taking 100% cpu, so should i assume it's still making progress?
[01:29] <almoxarife> brandon420: no, unless the cron was set to 'seconds apart' , there may be other methods, i just thought cron would be easy, some sort of watchdog maybe?
[01:29] <brandon420> znusgy, how big of a resize?
[01:30] <znusgy> brandon420: 1 tb to 200 gb
[01:30] <brandon420> almoxarife, there has to be a tool or application for this, i am going to do some more googling.
[01:30] <Marduuk> I was wondreing if anyone can help me with ubuntu server 21.10? all of my php pages display as source code
[01:31] <almoxarife> brandon420: google is our friend :)
[01:31] <brandon420> Marduuk, sudo apt-get insall php5
[01:31] <ctitguy_> hello
[01:31] <brandon420> znusgy, i would say that it is still working.
[01:31] <ctitguy_> Good evening everyone
[01:32] <brandon420> I would just watch the resource usage, you will be able to tell if it freezes.
[01:32] <brandon420> hey ctitguy_
[01:32] <ctitguy_> Current have a Macpro W/ geforce 8800GT
[01:32] <ctitguy_> Looking for some assistance in drivers
[01:32] <znusgy> brandon420: that's great, thank you
[01:32] <ctitguy_> Anyone have experience with tis combo
[01:33] <Marduuk> brandon420 it has php5.4 installed
[01:34] <ctitguy_> getting an error when running driver that X needs to be stopped
[01:34] <Butcho> How do I get grub2 to see another linux partition? I have sdb1 and sdb2 as my ubuntu 12.10, and sdb3 and sdb5 as my scilinux partition.
[01:34] <ctitguy_> How can I stop X without killing everything?
[01:35] <Butcho> ctitguy_, Ctrl-Alt+F1
[01:35] <Bustacap> I have a laptop that's a dual core, with 2gb of ram and it's constantly running at 100% cpu. System manager shows that whatever process is running is using 100% cpu. What is the cause of this?
[01:36] <brandon420> ctitguy_, to get back f7 is where you are now.
[01:36] <walterwoj> Is there a complete LAMP package I can install in one go?
[01:37] <brandon420> ctitguy_, http://youtu.be/MShbP3OpASA?hd=1&t=49m39s
[01:37] <brandon420> Marduuk, give me one second.
[01:37] <Marduuk> works now that i reinstalled php
[01:38] <brandon420> lol, i figured it was something dealing with php5
[01:38] <blackshirt> what is copyright, copyleft mean in opensource world ?
[01:38] <Dice-Man> hello backshirt
[01:38] <brandon420> pirate dat shit?
[01:38] <blackshirt> hello dice-man, do you know it ?
[01:39] <Dice-Man> blackshirt: huh i barely switch on my computer
[01:39] <xangua> !ot | blackshirt
[01:39] <brandon420> blackshirt, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft
[01:39] <blackshirt> dice-man,
[01:40] <Dice-Man> yes
[01:40] <Marduuk> what is the best webadmin for ubuntu?
[01:40] <brandon420> When asking questions, http://google.com is a good place to start. I mean that in the nicest way possible. (googled copyleft and that was the first link)
[01:41] <brandon420> Marduuk, What do you want to admin?
[01:42] <brandon420> myphpadmin is nice
[01:43] <brandon420> oh, lol. webmin is out there. Or putty and google.
[01:44] <somsip> !webadmin | Marduuk
[01:44] <Jordan_U> !lamp | walterwoj
[01:45] <somsip> !info webadmin
[01:46] <Marduuk> want something like cpanel and whm for ubuntu
[01:47] <bonhoeffer> can i mount with gparted -- i can't find the option anywhere
[01:48] <Nickwiz> What is the default groups for Ubuntu 12.10?
[01:49] <brandon420> !info webmin
[01:53] <bonhoeffer> hmm. .. i installed gparted to mount gpt partition, but there is no 'mount' option in gparted
[01:53] <bonhoeffer> i'll read up, study or try in any way to get this working, or go to another room if this is not the right place
[01:54] <bonhoeffer> i'm pretty frustrated, trying to get to my disk
[01:55] <Nickwiz> Anyone using ubuntu 12.10 willing to post result of $ groups? Lost all groups.
[01:56] <gustav__> What's a preferred DNS server? Safe and fast?
[01:59] <DaemonicApathy> gustav__: Google's seems to work pretty well.
[01:59] <gustav__> I mean a daemon. Such as bind.
[01:59] <bkc_> gustav__: 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4
[01:59] <iuser> anycast is insecure
[02:00] <walterwoj> is thera clever way to mount /var/www/ to /storage/ so that it is accessable under the samba share I already have?
[02:00] <gustav__> Which is better, kvm or xen?
[02:00] <iuser> i take kvm because it's free
[02:01] <gustav__> Xen is free too.
[02:01] <iuser> free != freedom
[02:01] <gustav__> What is freedom then?
[02:01] <iuser> hmm, it's a long long story
[02:02] <alusion> Measuring programming progress by lines of code is like measuring aircraft building progress by weight.
[02:02] <gustav__> Both are GPL v2? Yes?
[02:02] <IdleOne> it is an off topic subject to discuss in this channel. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for "conversation" and keep this channel free for support related comments.
[02:03] <gustav__> I am trying to decide between VM environments and DNS server, how is that not a support subject?
[02:04] <IdleOne> gustav__: you asked what freedom was. I was replying to that.
[02:04] <gustav__> That was a question involved in this support discussion. Are you trolling me?
[02:04] <IdleOne> gustav__: I am telling you to keep your questions and comments Ubuntu support related.
[02:05] <gustav__> IdleOne: And I am.
[02:05] <IdleOne> Also please drop the adversarial attitude
[02:05] <gustav__> Me?
[02:05] <IdleOne> yes, you.
[02:05] <gustav__> You are picking on me! :O
[02:06] <gustav__> This is outrageous.
[02:09] <walterwoj> is there clever way to mount /var/www/ to /storage/ so that it is accessible under the samba share I already have?
[02:11] <ssfdre38> how can i check how much disk space is left via term
[02:11] <willdabeast> does anyone know if there is a linux version of adobe flash encoder?
[02:11] <bkc_> ssfdre38: df
[02:11] <jrib> ssfdre38: df -h
[02:11] <Nickwiz> What is the default groups for default user in Ubuntu 12.10?
[02:12] <jrib> Nickwiz: grep EXTRA_GROUPS /etc/adduser.conf
[02:12] <Nickwiz> thank you very much.
[02:12] <jrib> Nickwiz: actually, that's commented so I guess there may not be any :)
[02:13] <sandba553r> yup yup yup uhuh uhuh
[02:14] <Yuri-Yang> Hello, is there a way that i run a shell script automatically when my system startup?
[02:15] <jrib> Yuri-Yang: what kind of shell script?
[02:15] <Nickwiz> jrib: looks kind of strange. Tought lpadmin, adm etc. was part of default groups (as in groups user has after install.)
[02:15] <jrib> Nickwiz: create a new user and see
[02:16] <jrib> Nickwiz: I think most of those groups aren't necessary anymore and stuff gets handled by polkit instead.  Not sure
[02:16] <Nickwiz> jrib: yes, did so, that user would have same groups as the "default" one? There is no extra magic done to that first born?
[02:17] <jrib> Nickwiz: there is magic done to the first one
[02:17] <Nickwiz> managed to remove user from all groups using an install script.
[02:18] <Yuri-Yang> it's just a very simply script in which i "killall" the ibus-daemon and then re-boot it again. the icon of ibus-daemon often disappear and i need to kill it and reboot it via terminal. i wanna do it in the very beginning
[02:18] <jrib> Nickwiz: just make sure you're in sudo.  Should be fine
[02:18] <Nickwiz> Guess I'll keep an extra eye on logs etc for a while.
[02:18] <jrib> !startup | Yuri-Yang
[02:19] <jrib> Nickwiz: my user is in the groups you see commented in adduser.conf but my install is very old (many upgrades)
[02:19] <Yuri-Yang> thx jrib, i ll check that out
[02:20] <sandba553r> cant you just add something to the usr .bashrc file?
[02:20] <jrib> sandba553r: that's probably not ideal
[02:21] <sandba553r> just a guess
[02:22] <bonhoeffer> gpt sucks! wow -- this is hard stuff
[02:22] <darren> 没有中文 频道嘛
[02:22] <IdleOne> !cn | darren
[02:24] <sandba553r> anyone know what an http 2.0 server would be doing running on a windows machine by port 5357, if u put 127.0.0.1:5357 in a browser you get an http reply "error 503  service unavailable"
[02:25] <jrib> sandba553r: not an ubuntu question...
[02:25] <sandba553r> ya, nm
[02:26] <sandba553r> sorry found it opened  on my windows partition, freaked out
[02:27] <hillshum> Why does my /etc/resolv.conf point to 127.0.1.1?
[02:27] <sandba553r> jrib: do you know of a windows channel?
[02:27] <jrib> sandba553r: ##windows
[02:27] <sandba553r> ty
[02:31] <bonhoeffer> i mounted the volume, but get You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "New Volume".
[02:32] <darlin> hi
[02:32] <_Linda> help
[02:32] <_Linda> me
[02:33] <cfhowlett> !details|_Linda:
[02:33] <fishscene> Greetings. Feel free to ask a question.
[02:35] <DieGuiTo> Help shell free
[02:36] <jrib> !ot | DieGuiTo
[02:48] <KI4RO> .
[02:50] <Krywk> Hello people. This is my question: I need to record video and sound from a Logitech c270 Webcam with VLC, from the command line. I'm using Ubuntu 11.10. How do I accomplish this?
[02:51] <Krywk> I managed to record it from the graphical interface, but I need it from the command line
[02:54] <xbskid> Krywk: Trying to spy on someone? :)
[02:56] <almoxarife> Krywk: tried 'man vlc' in terminal?
[02:57] <Krywk> xbskid, no.
[02:57] <Krywk> almoxarife, Haven't tried that, I tried vlc --help
[02:57] <almoxarife> Krywk: man vlc may be more informative
[02:57] <Krywk> almoxarife, trying that
[03:00] <Krywk> I could also use ffmpeg, but I get ALSA buffer XRUNs
[03:00] <Krywk> which cut the audio out
[03:00] <Krywk> Thing is, I have to record video and audio from a webcam, from the command line.
[03:00] <Nickwiz> According to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha1#General the group "admin" as been removed; I notice the group is not present in 12.10. But it also say that "However, for backwards compatibility, admin group members are still recognized as administrators" - does this mean that a clone of sudo to admin should be used if admin is needed, or is there no need for the admin group  - and "magic" is done low level?
[03:01] <Nickwiz> Nah. Do not know what I was thinking. Forget it.
[03:01] <Krywk> VLC has given me great results with the GUI.
[03:01] <Krywk> But I need to accomplish this with the command line.
[03:02] <Krywk> And there doesn't seem to be a 'capture' method for v4l2://
[03:02] <Krywk> And also that captures no sound.
[03:04] <jibcage> Hi, I'm on a gentoo installation but I can't get my trackpad to work. I've noticed, however, that it works on an ubuntu live usb session. Can anybody here help me out? The people over at #gentoo are stumped.
[03:05] <TadekMocarzzzz> i hate php co,mpany niggers, why they made something that shitty like Bitch PHP nigger
[03:05] <almoxarife> Krywk: in the gui, the 'show me more' option shows the command line options part, assuming you can get video via the gui then you will have the line to use in command line
[03:05] <Xabster> Why does Ubuntu 12.10 come with an "Amazon" link in the menu?!
[03:05] <cfhowlett> !ops|TadekMocarzzzz:
[03:06] <jibcage> owned.
[03:07] <Krywk> almoxarife: YES! THANK YOU!
[03:07] <almoxarife> Krywk: :)
[03:08] <talpur> hi comunity...by default unix install packages at which path..for example in windows mostly deafult will be ..c\program files\softwarename
[03:08] <superfake123> could someone please tell me what login manager this is http://i.imgur.com/3p1bg.jpg
[03:09] <Nickwiz> Xabster: It's an unity thing and utterly completely widely fundamental breach of sanity.
[03:09] <Xabster> on the surface: I agree
[03:09] <Xabster> but why
[03:09] <Xabster> did they get money for it?
[03:10] <jrib> !fhs | talpur
[03:10] <jrib> talpur: why do you ask?
[03:10] <Nickwiz> Xabster: do not use Unity and hasn't looked much at it, but ie this makes me wonder: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/31/canonical_slammed_eef/
[03:11] <talpur> i want to locate the directory of installed packgae to access help file inside...I installed cscope ,it has done successfuly now i want to access its xcsope directory to access some help file to understand it....
[03:11] <Xabster> Nickwiz: gnome user?
[03:11] <talpur> I use "find / -type d -name directory" but could find
[03:12] <jrib> talpur: documentation should end up in /usr/share/doc/PACKAGE.  But the command « dpkg -L PACKAGE » will reveal to you all files that PACKAGE installed
[03:12] <usr13> talpur: man xcsope
[03:12] <usr13> talpur: or:  http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man1/xscope.1.html
[03:13] <talpur> jrib: usr13: thanks i  try
[03:13] <usr13> NP
[03:14] <superfake123> could someone please tell me what login manager this is http://i.imgur.com/3p1bg.jpg
[03:16] <almoxarife> superfake123: its your login, you tell us
[03:16] <dumb0t> hello, i have a question...how can i auto replace a text in a file via cmd?
[03:16] <superfake123> I have no idea D:
[03:16] <dumb0t> i mean terminal*
[03:16] <superfake123> I don't know what I did but it just popped up after a reboot lol. how can I view which it is?
[03:17] <Nickwiz> Xabster: not landed on any yet. Testing various with varying frequency as Gnome being one of them.
[03:17] <dumb0t> anyone know?
[03:18] <wastrel> dumb0t: sed is the answer or perl can do it or various others
[03:18] <talpur> how I access "usr directory" from GUI
[03:18] <wastrel> sed -e 's/foo/bar/g' filename > newfile
[03:19] <dumb0t> can i change just a part of a text in a file with sed??
[03:19] <KI4RO> Got the Netflix thing downloaded and installed...no video but great audio...any ideas?
[03:20] <IdleOne> KI4RO: ask the PPA maintainer
[03:20] <wastrel> you can give sed line numbers
[03:20] <bkc_> dumb0t: sed
[03:20] <KI4RO> IdleOne: Okay, thanks, will do
[03:20] <dumb0t> oh ok, let me check sed MAN
[03:20] <dumb0t> thank you
[03:20] <bkc_> s12/foo/bar/g <-- changes 'foo' to 'bar' on line 12... or if it was 12s///f
[03:20] <bkc_> -f +g
[03:20] <Sach> Using ubuntu 12.04 and finding it really difficult. Anyway I can stay with this OS, but use the entire feel of 10.04?
[03:21] <dumb0t> oh
[03:21] <IdleOne> !notunity | Sach
[03:21] <bkc_> dumb0t: don't remember the order, so try non-destructive first :)
[03:22] <dumb0t> yeah, checking out the manpage of sed
[03:22] <talpur> hi community how  access "usr directory" from GUI
[03:23] <usr13> superfake123: Looks like lightdm
[03:23] <bkc_> talpur: /usr or "user" (as in /home/$USER)
[03:24] <usr13> talpur: File manager
[03:24] <p7ank5te7> Hey, I was wondering what way I could calculate the free memory on my computer from command line? I know if I do "cat /proc/meminfo" it tells me I have about 134mb free, but if I run htop, it shows that I have 7059mb free. Is there a way to get the correct reading?
[03:24] <usr13> talpur: What do you need to do?
[03:24] <talpur> bkc_: "/usr"
[03:25] <usr13> p7ank5te7: free
[03:25] <xangua> p7ank5te7: free -m
[03:25] <p7ank5te7> usr13, when I do that, it's the same as meminfo.
[03:25] <talpur> usr13: I want to reach at "/usr/share/doc/cscope" through GUI
[03:26] <usr13> p7ank5te7: Yep.
[03:26] <p7ank5te7> Both gui and htop read the same, that's why I was like umm?
[03:26] <bkc_> talpur: press Ctrl+L and you'll get an address-bar where you can type absolute paths in :)
[03:26] <Sach> ubottu: when searching the software center for "gnome-tweak-tool", it only shows me "Tweak advanced GNOME 3 settings".  Is this what you are referring to?
[03:26] <wastrel> the way to calculate available memory is free + cached
[03:26] <xbskid> Is it a known issue that Pidgin and Ubuntu One don't appear under the messaging indicator?
[03:26] <usr13> talpur: Use the GUI file manager
[03:27] <bkc_> Sach: yes, that's what the wiki is refering to :)
[03:27] <talpur> bkc_: bundle of thanks
[03:27] <AndroUser2> Hello I have a problem whit a c++ can sombady help me
[03:28] <bkc_> talpur: no problem :)
[03:28] <usr13> talpur: How about a GUI terminal?  (What's wrong with that?)
[03:28] <fishscene> Pidgin isn't integrated and I don't thin u1 has message capabilities
[03:28] <bkc_> AndroUser2: what kinda problem?
[03:28] <bkc_> dragos ^
[03:29] <xbskid> fishscene: I recall in 12.04 that Pidgin, when installed, gained an entry in the messaging indicator; apparently that's not the case anymore?
[03:30] <fishscene> Hmm.. I don't recall that happening to me pidgin has always operated independent of the integrated messaging system for me :S
[03:30] <Sach> bkc: I've installed the "gnome-shell" and "gnome-tweak-tool". But where do I find these applications?  Under Applications?
[03:30] <dragos> Whit an aassigment ..I have to set an array to add 3 positive numbers, but reject negative. It only let me put in a positive no. And add him 3 times
[03:31] <usr13> Sach: gnome-shell is a Desktop Environment
[03:31] <dragos> Is any whay sombady can take a look at this ting..give me a sugeation
[03:31] <Sach> usr13: so how do I use this environment once it is installed?
[03:32] <fishscene> Each: if you log off, you should have a new environment option.
[03:32] <usr13> Sach: You should see option for it at the login screen.
[03:32] <usr13> Sach: I think......
[03:32] <bkc_> dragos: this is a strict ubuntu support channel, I'd take your question to #c++ (and don't mention that it's a school assingment :P)
[03:33] <usr13> bkc_: Your giving away IRC secrets!
[03:33] <bkc_> usr13: :P
[03:34] <dragos> Bck Haw can I talk whit u? I.m an a phone..at work..
[03:36] <coolstar> I'm planning on getting a Nexus 4 in the near future. Is Ubuntu for Android supported on it?
[03:37] <fishscene> Cool star: nothing has been announced. They are still working on bringing Ubuntu to nexus 7
[03:38] <dragos> Ok. I.m a bit of a noon can somebody direct me to a c++ chanel
[03:38] <coolstar> dragos: ##c++
[03:38] <dragos> *nob
[03:38] <dragos> K
[03:39] <ColdRush> How would I go about installing pygtk 2.14?  It's required for obkey and I'm a total newb.
[03:40] <fishscene> Cold, you can search for it: "aptitude search (name here)"
[03:40] <fishscene> ...might have to install aptitude because it isn't there by default.
[03:41] <ColdRush> so...
[03:41] <coolstar> fishscene: apt-cache search...
[03:41] <ColdRush> apt-get install aptitude?
[03:41] <coolstar> ColdRush: try apt-cache search
[03:41] <fishscene> ...nowhere near as clean and nice as aptitude
[03:41] <coolstar> fishscene: true, true
[03:42] <ColdRush> I used that, but honestly I have no idea what I'm looking for
[03:42] <DaemonicApathy> Benefits of aptitude over apt?
[03:42] <dragos> Ok..it tel me that I need an invitation for #c++ . Any sugestion
[03:42] <ColdRush> It said I need pygtk 2.14, I don't see that anywhere
[03:42] <coolstar> DaemonicApathy: aptitude is a client around apt
[03:42] <xangua> !register | dragos
[03:42] <coolstar> dragos: ##c++
[03:43] <fishscene> Dragons, you need to register your irc nickname on freenode
[03:43] <DaemonicApathy> coolstar: What benefit does it offer as such? I only use apt directly.
[03:44] <Sach> usr: I'm still unable to use the environment that I'm familiar with from 10.04.  I remember using a classic shell.  Do you know how I can get this back?
[03:44] <coolstar> DaemonicApathy: I use apt directly too, ask fishscene
[03:44] <ColdRush> Can someone please help me out here...
[03:45] <superfake123> usr13, isn't lightdm what ubuntu comes with by default?
[03:45] <fishscene> If apt-cache works for you, then by all means, use it. But I prefer aptitude since the search output is so much easier for me to read and parse.
[03:45] <gonyere> coldrush: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:45] <superfake123> so basically I somehow just set it to default and lost the unity skin?
[03:45] <DaemonicApathy> Ahh, understood. Thanks, fishscene.
[03:45] <gonyere> then open synaptic and look for whatever dependency you need, and install :)
[03:45] <ColdRush> synaptic as in synaptic package manager?
[03:45] <ColdRush> thats already installed...
[03:46] <gonyere> yeah, then open it
[03:46] <gonyere> search for whatever file you need
[03:46] <gonyere> right click it, click 'mark for installation' and then apply
[03:46] <ColdRush> I don't see it :/
[03:47] <ColdRush> Why do people have to be so vague, especially when they're making a utility for everyone to use.  Not everyone understands the lingo...
[03:47] <gonyere> what do you need again?
[03:47] <ColdRush> I'm looking for pygtk 2.14, what do that translate to...
[03:47] <gonyere> what for?
[03:48] <ColdRush> obkey
[03:48] <gonyere> try installing pygtk-dev
[03:48] <ColdRush> Alright
[03:48] <gonyere> er python-pygtk2-dev
[03:48] <ColdRush> Yeah I figured :P
[03:48] <gonyere> :)
[03:49] <ColdRush> Never thought getting my brightness keys to work would be this big of a pita
[03:49] <gonyere> lol
[03:50] <gonyere> is this your first time installing/using linux?
[03:50] <ColdRush> I finally got keytouch working and theres a bug that prevents my brightness up from working
[03:50] <ColdRush> I use crunchbang on my server but I followed guides for that, I'm trying to use this lubuntu netbook as my daily machine though
[03:50] <ColdRush> It's been rough :(
[03:50] <gonyere> ahh
[03:50] <gonyere> i keep thinking about giving lxde a try
[03:51] <ColdRush> I'm afraid to run gnome, this is a single core atom
[03:51] <gonyere> yeah
[03:51] <gonyere> personally, i'm a fan of xfce in the light-weight category
[03:51] <gonyere> i run xubuntu on my old desktop which my kids use :)
[03:52] <gonyere> its my backup system when I screw up my laptop :p
[03:52] <ColdRush> Never tried it
[03:52] <DaemonicApathy> ColdRush, I broke my brightness hotkeys by accident a few days ago. Here's a simple fix: http://askubuntu.com/questions/174770/is-there-a-way-to-set-a-hotkey-to-change-screen-brightness
[03:52] <fishscene> I love xubuntu. Too bad the environment interferes and messes up unity.
[03:52] <gonyere> really fishscene? hows it do that/
[03:53] <ColdRush> DaemonicApathy, would I be able to do that on a CR48?  I don't have fn or f# keys
[03:53] <ColdRush> :/
[03:53] <xbskid> ColdRush: This is what I think of when I read 'gnome': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt5lB-RoAi4
[03:53] <ColdRush> they're all funky browser navs
[03:54] <DaemonicApathy> Use whatever keys you want, once you have xdotool. The only catch is that you need the keycode for it.
[03:54] <fishscene> I installed the xubuntu environment (forgot the name..) and logged in with it. Then logged in to unity. Half my indicators were from xubuntu interface and my shutdown splash was forever a weird mix of xubuntu and the unity shutdown splash
[03:55] <ColdRush> xbskid lol what am I watching
[03:55] <pavlz_> hi
[03:55] <Sach> using gnome classic in ubuntu 12.04. when I right click apps on my desktop panels (eg: weather) it only shows me "About".  I used to get many options on 10.04.  How do I get these options?
[03:56] <pavlz_> sorry for the distub and for the off topic i got a news for you: http://dpaste.com/833112
[03:56] <xbskid> ColdRush: It's an animation by a guy who put out a few books under the 'Grickle' name; it was inspired by Norweigian legends of forest gnomes and spirits, and in turn inspired the Puzzle Agent games.
[03:56] <ColdRush> I'll have to watch these
[03:56] <fishscene> Plus, I had two keyboard and two Bluetooth icons. Couldn't seem to de-duplicate them :/ anyway, I wiped it all clean and installed 12.10
[03:56] <gonyere> sach: gnome "classic" is fallback mode
[03:56] <gonyere> and not fully functional... it keeps getting worse and will be dropped completely shortly :(
[03:57] <xbskid> ColdRush: Some personal favorites of mine: We Sing the Forest Electric, Smartest Dog in the World
[03:57] <ColdRush> DaemonicApathy does it matter that I am using lxde?
[03:57] <Sach> gonyere: yes, I know...
[03:57] <gonyere> sach: what are you trying to do specifically?
[03:57] <xbskid> ColdRush: Sasquatch is cute, and Santa's is good for the holidays. :P
[03:57] <DaemonicApathy> ColdRush. Not that I know of. If you can find a solution simpler for you, though, awesome.
[03:58] <ColdRush> DaemonicApathy Well considering I can't even get these python thingys to run, I'm gonna try that
[03:58] <Sach> gonyere: trying to tweak my desktop panels. eg: add my dictionary app, system monitor graph, etc.
[03:58] <ColdRush> DaemonicApathy How do I find my keycodes?
[03:58] <gonyere> sach: ahh, you'd probably be best off installing gnome-shell and looking for extensions to get things the way you want them
[03:59] <DaemonicApathy> ColdRush: minor mistake on my part. If you use the Ubuntu settings to make the command, you can just hit the key combo you want for it. Mistook the command for the trigger for a minute.
[03:59] <ColdRush> DaemonicApathy I'm using lubuntu so I'm assuming I'll have issues
[04:00] <DaemonicApathy> Lubuntu doesn't have a setting for keyboard shortcuts?
[04:00] <Sach> gonyere: yes, I've just installed gnome-shell.  In 10.04, I used to be able to right click on the desktop menu and see a whole lis of the apps.  This doesnt happpen with gnome-shell in 12.04
[04:00] <COMBORICO> #info
[04:00] <gonyere> sach: if your looking for a complete list of all installed apps
[04:01] <gonyere> in gnome-shell (not fallback mode) go up to activities and then either click on 'applications' in 3.4 or
[04:01] <gonyere> in 3.6 the bottommost spot in the left hand panel
[04:01] <ColdRush> DaemonicApathy Not that I know of
[04:01] <xbskid> Is it just me or does Ubuntu 12 have a habit of forgetting global hotkeys?
[04:02] <xbskid> I set Lock Screen to Super + L, and I'll hold Super and press L, and whatever window has focus thinks I'm just typing l.
[04:02] <gonyere> i know theres an extension (though I'm currently drawing a blank) for a traditional drop-down applications menu beside 'activities' as well
[04:03] <xbskid> And then I go to All Settings > Keyboard, and it's set correctly!
[04:03] <DaemonicApathy> ColdRush: That's bothersome. Looks like you'd have to edit /home/<user>/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml manually. #lubuntu may be of more help to you. :-/
[04:03] <xbskid> And then I reconfigure the hotkey and THEN it works.
[04:04] <Nickwiz> xbskid: wee! Awesome vid :)
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> im looking to uninstall zeitgeist without trouble for unity, is there a solution already?
[04:04] <ColdRush> DaemonicApathy I was in there earlier and nobody ever talks...guess I didn't pick a great distro to work with haha
[04:04] <Sach> gonyere: I don't see Activities.  Where is this?
[04:05] <gonyere> you need to be in gnome-shell not gnome-classic
[04:05] <doomlord> has anyone here got 2 graphics nvidia cards working ; i've got a second card showing up as a seperate x-screen, but it doesn't seem to register as part of the desktop. I have multiple monitors in the first card, showing up as a large desktop with the screens positioned ok
[04:07] <doomlord> NVIDIA X Server Settings - i see "X Screen 0" - with my working monitors - and "X Screen 1". "Enable Xinerama" is ticked
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | doomlord
[04:09] <usr13> ColdRush: xfce is good...
[04:09] <matthew0043> yawns
[04:10] <ColdRush> usr13 do you think my media keys and stuff will work on an xfce remix?
[04:10] <matthew0043> Any one trying beta 13.10 ubuntu
[04:10] <usr13> ColdRush: I don't know about remix.  Nor do i know about your media keys.
[04:10] <MrELusiveness> man winehq is quiet
[04:12] <usr13> ColdRush: All I know is I'm very well satisfied with xfce
[04:12] <ColdRush> keytouch makes me want to smash my head in :(
[04:12] <MrELusiveness> lol
[04:12] <usr13> ColdRush: xfce is easy to configure and stay's out of your way.
[04:12] <MrELusiveness> then that would be a headtouch
[04:13] <doomlord> xrandr only shows me outputs on the first graphics card.
[04:13] <ColdRush> why does my brightness up key only work when I press my brightness down...
[04:13] <ColdRush> its like its taunting me because it negates itself
[04:14] <doomlord> never mind. 4 screens is enough, i dont need 6
[04:19] <robotdevil> Hello
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> im looking to uninstall zeitgeist without trouble for unity, is there a solution already?
[04:22] <matthew0043> wow so many times i try to download ubuntu and getting to work on a eeepc 1025c it WORKING
[04:23] <matthew0043>  not to many people chat on here do they???
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> !ot | matthew0043
[04:24] <c2tarun> matthew0043, wow....
[04:24] <fishscene> Only when assistance is needed..
[04:24] <c2tarun> you really are lucky, this is the first time I am seeing so less traffic here :P
[04:25] <gustav__> Hi, what's probably listening to 53 on a standard 12.10 install? I don't have bind.
[04:25] <th3j35t3r> lotuspsychje what pkg are installed dpkg -l |grep zeit then purge it like sudo apt-get purge libzeitgeist-1.0-1 python-zeitgeist zeitgeist-core .Just make sure you are using ie 1.0.1
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> th3j35t3r:you sure it wont conflict unity? cause somebody told me yesterday it might corrupt the new search in dash
[04:26] <gmachine_24> I attempted to clone the main HD from my music server using Clonezilla. Something went very wrong and most of my 250GB of music is gone from those two drives. Thankfully I still have a third drive with a current copy of the music.
[04:27] <gmachine_24> I need to clone this drive without another disaster - I only have the one last HD with a full back up.
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> th3j35t3r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1369379/
[04:28] <gmachine_24> I guess I am also warning people about using Clonezilla. I've used it for years without a problem. But this . . . I will never use it again.
[04:28] <xangua> lotuspsychje: or you could just disable it in Privacy settings
[04:28] <th3j35t3r> lotuspsychje it might turn off logging. Then check if the deamon is running  ps -ef |grep zeit then remove the possibility to rw to activity.sqlite  chmod -rw ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> xangua:i dont like history in my system, i been able to remove zeitgeist without trouble on previous
[04:30] <nolpek> hi, quick question.  I'm shopping for a pci network adapter (wireless and wired) for my desktop, and I want one that works out-of-the-box with ubuntu.  Any tips?
[04:31] <heoyea> google it
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> nolpek:theres an ubuntu page for supported wifi cards
[04:32] <nolpek> heoyea, thank you so much, you rock.
[04:32] <nolpek> lotuspsychje, I've checked that page, and I bought one which was listed as supported but in fact was not.
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> nolpek:some cards might need a tweak like firmware download
[04:34] <nolpek> lotuspsychje, exactly, and I'm shopping for a card which doesn't need a tweek.
[04:34] <fishscene> He wants one that works out-of-the-box..
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> nolpek: i bought sitecome usb adapter and linksys pci recently, the both worked flawless on ubuntu
[04:35] <nolpek> ok, thx.  I'll check it out
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> nolpek:what brand did you buy that not work?
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> nolpek: my Netgear WG311T works with zero effort
[04:36] <th3j35t3r> nolpek that "google it" is noob talk for "I dont know and I want others to think I badass. Are you going to be doing injection with it? I really like the Alfa AWUS036H (Realtek RTL8187).
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: you know a clean way to remove zeitgeist without messing up unity?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> nolpek: try ##hardware aswell
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: just use the privacy config app to make it monitor nothing
[04:37] <fishscene> !Zeitgeist > fishscene
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: i completly removed zeitgeist with purge on 12.04.1
[04:38] <nolpek> lotuspsychje,   "Netgear WNA 3100 N-300"  is what didn't work for me.
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> fishscene: i tryed to add zeitgeist info to the bot, but nobody change yet..
[04:38] <th3j35t3r> lotuspsychje if you remove the rw from activity.sqlite you should be OK. hmod +rw ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite
[04:38] <fishscene> Lol. Yea... he is ignorant of that package.
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: so where is the issue if it's gone?
[04:39] <th3j35t3r> lotuspsychje then remove like this dpkg -l |grep zeit
[04:39] <th3j35t3r> lotuspsychje then sudo apt-get purge libzeitgeist-1.0-1 python-zeitgeist zeitgeist-core
[04:39] <nolpek> so here is the link describing the difficulty installing  the wireless adapter:  http://furiouspurpose.me/linux-and-the-wna3100-wireless-adapter/
[04:40] <nolpek> and here is the ubuntu page which lists it as "plug and play": https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetgear#USB
[04:40] <th3j35t3r> lotuspsychje just make sure you use what you see in dpkg -l|grep zeit
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> ok ill try
[04:41] <th3j35t3r> nolpek are you going to be using programs like Rever etc or just "surf"
[04:41] <gmachine_24> Can anyone help me clone a 250GB hard drive that is not the computer's main drive?
[04:41] <th3j35t3r> reaver sry
[04:41] <gmachine_24> Actually, I just need to copy a 500GB partition - which is half full.
[04:41] <nolpek> well, I'll be just "surfing" i suppose....i dont expect to be doing anything advanced with my internet configuration.
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> th3j35t3r:cool mate purge worked, its uninstalling all plugins and activity-log-manager
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> now the final test reboot lol
[04:43] <th3j35t3r> lotuspsychje yup
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> gmachine_24: could use rsync. If the partition is a system partition which you are booted to, you will need to use a liveCD
[04:45] <th3j35t3r> nolpek then I would go for speed if you dont care about pen testing. Medialink - Wireless N USB Adapter - 802.11n
[04:45] <th3j35t3r> nolpek works out of the box
[04:46] <nolpek> th3j35t3r, thanks
[04:47] <th3j35t3r> nolpek but I am a Alfa nut. If you can get hold of this one. Also works right out of the box  Alfa AWUS050NH
[04:48] <root___> exit
[04:49] <nolpek> i'd love to check these out, but surfing websites is hit-or-miss with my internet connection.  which is  strange because irc works fine
[04:50] <th3j35t3r> nolpek I would turn off IPv6. I really might help.
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> nolpek: have you tried a different browser?
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> nolpek: are you using wireless?
[04:51] <th3j35t3r> nolpek I use Iceweasel.
[04:52] <xubu> why is handbrake available on xubuntu 32bit, but not 64bit in the software center? i tried to install from the shell and it fail on 64bit, but works on 32bit
[04:52] <nolpek> ActionParsnip,  no. i haven't tried a different browser.  and both wireless and wired have this issue.  and several other devices have no such problem
[04:52] <nolpek> (2 laptops and 2 iphones )
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> xubu: what are you using handbrake for? There may be a 64bit alternative
[04:53] <xubu> what is the alternative?
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> nolpek: what wifi chip are you using?
[04:53] <th3pun15h3r> is there a crunchbang like openbox ubuntu out there besides madbox?
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> xubu: well, what are you using the app to achieve??
[04:53] <xubu> converting all video to mp4
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> th3pun15h3r: install openbox on Ubuntu and use that as your session....
[04:54] <th3j35t3r> xubu I wrote a program that will compile ffmpeg from git if you care. Might still work. A bit dated http://pastebin.com/NHXrsBxm
[04:54] <nolpek> ActionParsnip,  02:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[04:54] <nolpek> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> xubu: ffmpeg and mencoder can do that....
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> nolpek: what driver module does it use?
[04:55] <xubu> th3j35t3r: thanks, i'll give it a try
[04:55] <bkc_> th3j35t3r: (@openbox) the slimest ubundu-deriv that I know of that has some support is Lubuntu, otherwise you're pretty much on your own :/
[04:55] <nolpek> ActionParsnip,  i don't know what to look for in lsmod
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> xubu: ffmpeg -i filename.mp4 -vcodec mpeg4 -acodec ac3 -ar 48000 -ab 192k output.avi
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> nolpek: sudo lshw -C network
[04:56] <asilhouette> anyone know of rutilt
[04:56] <asilhouette> i set a option on it to start on tray, and now it doesn't work anymore
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> xubu: that's the other way, let me re-search
[04:57] <asilhouette> the rutilt executes but there isn't any gui just sits there in the system monitor
[04:57] <bkc_> asilhouette: RutilT isn't maintained since 2008... don't expect it to still work as intended :)
[04:58] <bkc_> s/2008/2010/
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> xubu: ffmpeg -i input_file.avi -f mp4 -vcodec mpeg4 -maxrate 1000k -b 700k -qmin 3 -qmax 5 -bufsize 4096 -g 300 -acodec libfaac -ab 192k -s 320x240 -aspect 4:3 output_file.mov
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> xubu: source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iPodVideoEncoding#Using_ffmpeg
[04:58] <asilhouette> ya i know but it works for what it does. only if i could change the configuration bkc_, so it'd go back to doing whatever it does
[04:59] <asilhouette> i tried uninstalling with the configuration files from synaptic, but no luck
[04:59] <nolpek> ActionParsnip,  http://pastebin.com/MfdGJptM
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> nolpek: driver=rt2800pci
[04:59] <xubu> ActionParsnip, thanks, i want to do it without having to remember all those...and how do i do a batch of files? without having to type in all those commands?
[04:59] <th3j35t3r> asilhouette give me a few min. Ill write you a program. You can pick the finished size etc.
[04:59] <bkc_> asilhouette: have you checked out wicd?
[05:00] <nolpek> ActionParsnip,  ok thanks.  now i know :)
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> nolpek: its there in your paste, all you had to do was read.....
[05:00] <asilhouette> ya bkc_, but it doesn't show signal level and quality
[05:01] <bkc_> asilhouette: uhm, yes it does :)
[05:01] <roothorick> I installed Ubuntu Server to a USB HDD, using a VM. I've now tried it on two (real) computers, and on both, after GRUB, I get just a blank black screen. Ctrl-Alt-Fn does nothing. What gives?
[05:01] <bkc_> both wicd-cli and wicd-gtk does :)
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> nolpek: Try:    sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M
[05:01] <nolpek> ActionParsnip, i dont know the difference between module and driver.
[05:01] <asilhouette> i thought i just showed them in percentage
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> nolpek: there isn't one
[05:02] <asilhouette> and you have to refresh everytime
[05:02] <nolpek> haha ok
[05:03] <nolpek> ActionParsnip, does that throttle the card?
[05:03] <nolpek> (the iwconfig rate command)
[05:03] <almoxarife> roothorick: looked at syslog?
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> nolpek: should make it run at the right speed
[05:04] <asilhouette> bkc_: anything i can do to get rutilt to work again
[05:05] <bkc_> asilhouette: do you know anything about programming?
[05:05] <asilhouette> abit ya
[05:05] <bkc_> sure, download the source and happy hacking :)
[05:05] <asilhouette> lol, k
[05:06] <asilhouette> any simple method to get it working now.
[05:06] <doomlord__> i've installed kde, after selecting it from the ubuntu/gnome login screen, it seems to permanently boot up with this now instead of asking me what session i want .. is there a way to recover the session menu ?
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> nolpek: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HP_ProBook_4320s#WLAN   seems to use the same chip
[05:06] <asilhouette> there should be a value or something i can configure
[05:07] <almoxarife> doomlord__: logout, decide what you actually want to log into, then fix what ever you did
[05:07] <bkc_> asilhouette: There's no evidence that it has been updated too work with the new 3.x kernel, and if it has there is nothing to indicate that it has been tested
[05:08] <almoxarife> doomlord__: sounds like you got autologin enabled
[05:08] <th3j35t3r> xubu what codec would you like this program to use?
[05:08] <asilhouette> but why does it have a quantal repository bkc_
[05:08] <bkc_> asilhouette: and that's just the part that sticks out :)
[05:08] <bkc_> asilhouette: no idea, install it and try it, don't expect it to work thou :)
[05:09] <asilhouette> bkc_: it has been working till yesterday, i turned on a option. :(
[05:09] <asilhouette> on quantal
[05:09] <bkc_> then turn it off o.O
[05:09] <asilhouette> can't the gui won't load
[05:10] <th3j35t3r> xubu its done. http://pastebin.com/u/Onryo the one posted 2 min ago.
[05:10] <asilhouette> i tried searching for configuration files, there seems to be none
[05:10] <bkc_> turn it off in in the config
[05:10] <asilhouette> there isn't a config file
[05:10] <bkc_> there are. if it's not in the manual then download the source and look for a reference to it :)
[05:10] <almoxarife> asilhouette: un-install it
[05:11] <asilhouette> almoxarife: did that, didnt' work
[05:11] <bkc_> almoxarife: might not work thou, depending on how the deb-packet is packaged :)
[05:11] <doomlord__> almoxarife: i want the session menu to appear first. the menu where you can choose between ubuntu, ubuntu 2d etc. whats it called ? i dont recall enabling autologin; i was able to switch between different options prior to selecting kde
[05:11] <asilhouette> k guys i might look into source
[05:11] <asilhouette> :)
[05:12] <almoxarife> doomlord__: if you are going right into session then you are 'autologin'
[05:14] <almoxarife> asilhouette: look for the process in /etc/init.d/ if its a root process
[05:14] <asilhouette> almoxarife: already did that, not there
[05:14] <asilhouette> it doesnt require root privileges
[05:15] <almoxarife> asilhouette: was it installed via deb/apt/synaptic ?
[05:15] <asilhouette> ya almoxarife
[05:16] <almoxarife> asilhouette: use synaptic to find it, un-install it there
[05:16] <asilhouette> did that also, and reinstalled, no luck
[05:16] <almoxarife> asilhouette: no luck at what?
[05:17] <raider6d> can anyone help me with a question?
[05:17] <asilhouette> uninstalling with synaptic with configurations, then i reinstalled, but it stayed the same
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> raider6d: with details, maybe
[05:18] <simplew> ActionParsnip: can you help me with paunchpad?
[05:18] <almoxarife> asilhouette: of course it stays the 'same' you re-installed it, it wont change its behavior
[05:18] <raider6d> i'm downloading ubuntu 12.10.. i already had it on my computer. but i needed windows so i had to reinstall that.. i'm downloading ubuntu onto a flashdisk right now.. anyway i can setup dual boot?
[05:18] <asilhouette> so what should i've done almoxarife?
[05:18] <almoxarife> asilhouette: its not windoz
[05:18] <asilhouette> almoxarife: ok. :)
[05:18] <raider6d> ...without partitioning?
[05:19] <simplew> ActionParsnip: i have uploaded a package in ppa but i did delete it, now i cant upload a new one, i get an email saying the upload failed, how can now see the package version-release of the deleted package to be sure im uploading an incremented release of that package?
[05:19] <raider6d> will i have to start from scratch or delete windows and than reinstall both?
[05:19] <wolfygang> Hello guys, I found this off of Ubuntu's support section, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.4 over Fedora 17 and I mounted the .iso via terminal, but I don't know how to make it run, can someone please help?
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> simplew: I'd ask in #launchpad
[05:19] <th3j35t3r> asilhouette did the way showed you remove zietg? No issues to Unity?
[05:19] <simplew> ActionParsnip: i did
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> raider6d: you can resize your NTFS in windows and install to the freed space (recommended by me) or you can install via Wubi
[05:21] <xangua> wolfygang: make a live cd or a live usb
[05:21] <wolfygang> I put the .iso on a cd also but I can't boot from it
[05:21] <raider6d> okay.. thank you. should i give them equal space?
[05:22] <almoxarife> wolfygang: 10.4? why
[05:22] <wolfygang> To compile ROMs on Android
[05:22] <wolfygang> All the guides are for 10.4
[05:22] <th3j35t3r> wolfygang you using CM10 with eclipse to dev?
[05:23] <wolfygang> No, I'm trying to compile a custom kernel for the Viper, but Fedora just isn't working.
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> raider6d: Ubuntu doesn't need too much space. Give it 15Gb and you'll be fine. You can store your user data on the NTFS to accommodate your WIndows OSes lack of Ext4 support
[05:24] <nyxx> Hi, is there a problem with ubuntu installation on 3TB disks?
[05:24] <th3j35t3r> sad that codeworkX left the CM10 project over the Exynos4 SoC. He has some skills.
[05:25] <raider6d> wonderful.. thanks a bunch
[05:25] <wolfygang> Hey atleast you have CM10 lol, our device has no Roms yet or kernels, can't be overclocked and no CWM:P
[05:25] <almoxarife> wolfygang: take it to android talk
[05:26] <wolfygang> Sorry, I just want to know a terminal command to run this .ISO I mounted.
[05:26] <cfhowlett> !android
[05:27] <almoxarife> wolfygang: you have an iso, it needs to be run off cd/usb to do anything worthwhile
[05:27] <th3j35t3r> sudo mount filename.iso /media/iso -t iso9660 -o loop
[05:27] <Soo> woob
[05:27] <Soo> woob
[05:27] <Soo> woob
[05:27] <FloodBot1> Soo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:27] <th3j35t3r> but make sure you have a mnt point
[05:27] <cowsquad> has anyone tried elementary LUNA OS based on ubuntu?
[05:28] <th3j35t3r> lua?
[05:28] <xangua> !ot | cowsquad
[05:28] <nowayride> Cowsquad #elementary
[05:28] <almoxarife> cowsquad: and lastly, no!
[05:28] <wolfygang> Ok, I have the .ISO on a CD, but when I try to boot from a CD I get a
[05:29] <excalibr> people..is there way to globally set unity icon launcher size?
[05:29] <wolfygang> "Selected Boot Device Not Available"
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: how did you put the ISO on the USB?
[05:30] <xangua> excalibr: you can set it on Appearence i believe
[05:30] <wolfygang> Action: 1 second
[05:30] <wolfygang> Windows disc image burner
[05:30] <excalibr> xangua: hmm?
[05:31] <ibodi> anyone help with my lamp please, phpinfo shows loaded: mod_rewrite
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: did you MD5 test the iSO you downloaded?
[05:31] <excalibr> ibodi: nginx?
[05:31] <th3j35t3r> Why cant the "google it hipsters cut the "google it or RTFM" its screams "I too just started using GNU/Linux and a nerd.
[05:31] <ibodi> .htaccess: RewriteEngine onRewriteRule ^foo/(.*)$ abc.php?id=$1
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: the in built Windows CD burner is rubbish, I suggest you use something else
[05:31] <th3j35t3r> excalibr nginx really is nice
[05:32] <ibodi> excalibr: apache
[05:32] <th3j35t3r> excalibr ligter and faster then Apache.
[05:32] <himcesjf>  Hi! I'm not able to get x11vnc working after recent update. I've reconfigured dm for kdm over lightdm and here are the working, failed attempts - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1367286/ . What am I missing in the command?
[05:32] <ibodi> excalibr: tested working exactly same, with godaddy
[05:32] <wolfygang> Do I burn the contents inside the .iso to a cd or the .iso itself?
[05:32] <ibodi> excalibr: but not working in my localhost
[05:32] <nyxx> I am trying to setup the partitions for a webserver, most of my files will be in /var/www. During the partitioning step of the installation, should I use /var/www as the mounting point and allocate 2.5TB to it?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: the ISO itself, there is no extraction at all
[05:32] <nyxx> or /var
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: http://infrarecorder.org/   use that, burn the ISO and burn as slowly aspossible
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: sounds like you extracted the files then used a junk burner to make the CD, this will not work
[05:33] <almoxarife> th3j35t3r: hipsters :) ,
[05:33] <wolfygang> I burned the .iso itself on the cd. If I open up the cd I can see the .iso file
[05:34] <ibodi> anyone ?
[05:34] <almoxarife> wolfygang: you see a file with the .iso extension?
[05:34] <xangua> wolfygang: so you did not burned it as an image¿
[05:35] <wyclif> also be sure to run md5sum
[05:35] <wolfygang> Yes, it has the .iso extension is that my problem ?
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: that's why
[05:35] <almoxarife> wolfygang: problem, yes, and wont boot, thats obvious though
[05:35] <Nickwiz> jrib: cat /var/log/installer/syslog | grep "user-setup"
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: you burned the file, rather than burning the ISO as an ISO which would give all the files in the ISO on the CD when you opened it
[05:36] <voldyman> guys i want to write a replacement for gnome-screensaver. where can i find the docs for that??
[05:36]  * KLined6 is Away: Auto Away: Idle 12m ..[kl6.0]..
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: mainly because the windows burner is junk
[05:36] <th3j35t3r> almoxarife =)
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: install infrarecorder and you can burn the ISO as it is supposed to be burned, burn as slowly as possible
[05:37] <wolfygang> AHH, it has disc image burner in its name. Ok well im an idiot, thank you.
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: yes, you have a CD with 1 file, it should have lots of files
[05:39] <wolfygang> So the burning program should basically be extracting the files itself to a CD?
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: yes, its all handled for you
[05:40] <almoxarife> wolfygang: look at the iso as a zip, kinda sorta, you copied the zip, you didnt expand it
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: just give it the ISO and tell it to burn as slowly as possible and it will all work
[05:41] <k1ng> can anyone help me with rsync, i want to copy everything except upload dir and config.php. how do i do that?
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> k1ng: there is the option:      --exclude=PATTERN
[05:43] <wolfygang> Which write method should I use?
[05:43] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: i use k3b, should i be forcing the burn into something slower? for install discs
[05:43] <k1ng> ActionParsnip, can you help me write the pattern please?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: whatever is default is fine
[05:43] <wolfygang> Thank you
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> k1ng: do you have a desktop UI?
[05:44] <k1ng> no i do not
[05:44] <k1ng> its a server
[05:44] <MrELusiveness> vivid in here?
[05:44] <MrELusiveness> sleeping?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> k1ng: gotcha, there may e examples online. I'm a little tied up
[05:47] <k1ng> dumba
[05:50] <wolfygang> it worked! thank you guys
[05:50] <makara> is there a channel on working with Apple hardware?
[05:51] <makara> trying to restore an iPhone to 5.1.1 without iTunes
[05:52] <Magiobiwan> makara: ##apple
[05:52] <Magiobiwan> Maybe
[05:52] <bkc_> makara: I'd suggest http://{support,help}.apple.com
[05:53] <makara> somehow I don't think so bkc_
[05:53] <bkc_> ooh, nvm ^.^
[05:54] <alien2050> Hello all ! Got a question...  Is there a way to rename a batch of files spread over many dirs and subdirs and remove the "." from their name without affecting files? like this.is.the.name.of.dir1 and I want it to be this-is-the-name-of-dir1
[05:54] <rumpe1> alien2050, dir-names or file-names?
[05:54] <alien2050> only dirs, not files
[05:54] <bkc_> makara: libimobiledevice, libirecovery, ideviceactivate ... now go google it ^.^
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: there is a batch renamer if memory serves
[05:55] <bkc_> alien2050: cli or gui?
[05:55] <alien2050> I was thinking maybe some sed magic
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gprename-complete-batch-renamer-for-linux.html
[05:55] <alien2050> cli if possible
[05:55] <bkc_> for gui there's xfce-rename-batch
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: I'd ask in #bash too
[05:55] <bkc_> cli, use for-loops and awk :)
[05:56] <alien2050> hmmm how would awk help me
[05:56] <rumpe1> alien2050, combine "find" and "mv" I guess...    something like: "find . -type d -iname '*.*' -exec rename 's/\./\-/g' {} -n \; "
[05:56] <rumpe1> alien2050, not "mv" but "rename" I meant. And be careful. Make a backup before that.
[05:56]  * ActionParsnip bows to rumpe1's blackbelt bashfu
[05:57] <rumpe1> ActionParsnip, it's like cooking :D
[05:57] <bkc_> sejo: sed is short for Simple EDitor, it's a file-editor, awk is a perl runner, :)
[05:57] <alien2050> looks nice thx rumpe1!!!!
[05:58] <rumpe1> alien2050, the "-n" for rename is for having a test-/dry-run. Remove the "-n" if you feel sure about it.
[05:59] <alien2050> great thx!
[06:15] <makara> Magiobiwan, had a go at ##apple. Seems like their corporate outpost.
[06:27] <jdpeck> hey i just installed 10.04 on my hp laptop as a dual boot and having issues getting wifi to work.lp?  i read some of the forum threads but was unable to get it working.  anyone mind trying to he
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> jdpeck: why such an ancient release?
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> jdpeck: Lucid has about 6 months support left, so why bother with it?
[06:28] <jdpeck> its going to be used for android stuff and thats what some developers said to use as it works better than 12 with android
[06:28] <killer> jdpeck: try 12.04
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> jdpeck: I suggest a new install of Precise and it will be supported til APril 2017
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> jdpeck: Lucid has such old versions of everything, its hard to make newer stuff work with it
[06:29] <Mechdave> I have always used 10.04 for android system and 12.04 for android apps
[06:29] <MiteshShah> While I mount windows partitions with nautilus its worked but from command line mount says only root can do that
[06:29] <jdpeck> i will give 12 a shot
[06:30] <MiteshShah> How to mount ntfs partition with normal user? just like nautilus do
[06:30] <Mechdave> MiteshShah, that is correct, you need to use sudo as well as mount from terminal
[06:30] <jdpeck> mechdave: it would be for system
[06:30] <killer> jdpeck: i think 12.04 is much polished than any other ubuntu release.....
[06:31] <MiteshShah> Mechdave:  yes I know that but I need to setup another ntfs partition for end user and they hates cli so I wonder how nautilus can do that things
[06:31] <Mechdave> jdpeck, I have had trouble with 12.04 with getting the compilation to work with the android source. I know the guys here say 12.04 for everything but personally I have had nothing but trouble when it comes to compiling android on it. If set up correctly 10.04 works well
[06:32] <Mechdave> MiteshShah, you need to add the permission to the user account to allow them to auto mount the partition. Or you could modify the /etc/fstab file to include a permission for that user
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> MiteshShah: add it in /etc/fstab and add the option:   user     and your users can mount the partition
[06:33] <MiteshShah> Mechdave: /dev/sda4       /media/Storage  ntfs-3g defaults        0       0
[06:33] <jdpeck> mechdave: that is what I have heard.  I won't be building roms or anything but more themes.  I might see if eris can help me out since he recommended it
[06:34] <MiteshShah> Mechdave: ActionParsnip  can you give me which user I need to add
[06:34] <jdpeck> thanks for the input
[06:34] <Mechdave> MiteshShah, try adding user in where defaults is as well
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> MiteshShah: user     is the word to add, its not an actual user, it's the word itself
[06:34] <Mechdave> jdpeck, No worries :) Good luck with it all
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> MiteshShah: /dev/sda4       /media/Storage  ntfs-3g gid=1000,rw,user        0       0                      may do it
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> MiteshShah: it will mount at boot, you can add the mount point to the bookmarks for easy access.
[06:39] <MiteshShah> ActionParsnip: Already done setting up mount points
[06:41] <fowl> how can i figure out what ubuntu im on? (what the name is, lucid, maverick, etc)
[06:41] <jpds> fowl: lsb_release -a
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> fowl: lsb_release -sc |
[06:42] <fowl> jpds: thanks, homie
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> without the pipe character
[06:43] <jpds> fowl: Yo, no problemo.
[06:43] <jpds> ;-)
[06:43] <kevin> when I ping ubuntu, if I get "TTL=64", I can use the telnet,ftp,ssh,vnc,if I get "TTL=255", I can't use them connect ubuntu under XP, who know the reason?
[06:43] <srj001> Who knows about keying login passwords with usb devices?
[06:44] <kevin> is it a firewall issue?
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> kevin: so you are trying to connect to Ubuntu from an XP system?
[06:46] <kevin> anybody could help me? thanks in advance
[06:46] <kevin> yes
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> kevin: are they on the same network?
[06:47] <kevin> yes , the same network section
[06:47] <kevin> XP:192.168.1.10, ubuntu:192.168.1.11
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> kevin: did you configure a firewall on Ubuntu?
[06:48] <kevin> after installing the ubuntu, I only use "sudo ufw enable 192.168.1.10".
[06:48] <aaas> ssh xterm gets 'can't open display localhost:12.0', connecting to server from a client with xforwarding enabled putty,  /etc/ssh/ssh(d)_config both have x11forwarding/x11forward enabled, I can connect to a different server with putty and it works fine and if I connect from the 3rd computer I also get the same error so I think the problem is server side. Are there any debug logs for this type of thing? ssh/x forwarding?
[06:49] <kevin> the issue is still there without set the ufw.
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> kevin: is it ok if you don't run that command?
[06:50] <kevin> no , the same issue
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> aaas: what OS are you SSHing from?
[06:50] <jpds> kevin: You don't need an IP for "enable"
[06:50] <aaas> ActionParsnip ubuntu and windows 8
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> aaas: on Windows8, do you have an X server (like xming) installed and running?
[06:51] <jpds> kevin: You sure you're not mistaking "enable" for "allow" ?
[06:51] <aaas> ActionParsnip yes, and when i connect to the other ubuntu server it works fine
[06:51] <kevin> sorry, it is allow, not enable
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> aaas: on the Ubuntu system, did you connect using:   ssh -X -C username@server
[06:52] <jpds> kevin: Right, that's not how you allow an IP.
[06:52] <aaas> ActionParsnip yes but I"ll try again to make sure
[06:52] <jpds> kevin: You can 'allow' ports, not IPs like that.
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> aaas: both are capitalized
[06:52] <jpds> kevin: Check your rules with: sudo ufw status verbose
[06:52] <aaas> ActionParsnip yes same thing
[06:52] <Guest80838> Hi all, friend's got a broadcom BCMM4322 wireless card that has a button for ON OFF. It's stuck on OFF any way to make it turn on w/out the button itself working?
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest80838: try:   sudo rfkill unblock all
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest80838: is the system a dual boot?
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> aaas: if another system works, compare the sshd_config    files
[06:54] <Guest80838> ActionParsnip:  apparently he's running it off a USB
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest80838: running what?
[06:55] <kevin> @jpds, Anywhere ALLOW IN 192.168.1.10
[06:55] <Guest80838> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu. He says running via livecd the wireless works?
[06:55] <kevin> 192.168.1.10 is for XP
[06:55] <aaas> ActionParsnip diff shows the same except for one change I just made so that I could get x2go to try and connect
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Guest80838: then run:  sudo lshw -C network   and check the driver module loaded and such
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> aaas: if you undo that change, is it ok?
[06:56] <aaas> ActionParsnip just tried no
[06:57] <kevin> jpds ?
[06:58] <kevin> jpds: I check the ufw command, I get "Anywhere ALLOW IN 192.168.1.10"
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> aaas: try:  echo $DISPLAY      on one that works, and onne that doesn't and compare
[06:58] <arulmoz> i have downloaded 12.10 version from the site. currently I have 12.04. is there any way I can upgrade it offline without fresh installation???
[06:58] <kevin>  jpds: I check the ufw command, I get "Anywhere ALLOW IN 192.168.1.10"
[06:58] <jpds> kevin: And if you disable the firewall, with ufw disable - the connection works?
[06:58] <aaas> ActionParsnip one is 10 and the other is 12 (or 13 if connecting to the other computer0
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> arulmoz: sure, you can boot to the 12.10 CD and there will be an upgrade option
[06:59] <killer> when i try to resize my btrfs partion (have installed btrfs-tools),it says ---> "http://pastebin.com/JeBXcZwJ"
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> aaas: try exporting the variable to the working value and try then
[06:59] <killer> http://pastebin.com/JeBXcZwJ
[06:59] <arulmoz> ActionParsnip: can I mount the ISO file.. without need of a cd??
[06:59] <srj001> I have configured my system to successfully use a usb flash drive to be required to log into my computer, but I had to modify a script manually.  I am looking for a GUI software that would allow me to configure pamusb
[06:59] <kevin> connection doesn't work either
[07:01] <Guest80838> ActionParsnip, looks like it sees the card but it's disabled? http://pastebin.com/WCD46BQ7
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> arulmoz: could use a USB storage / SD card....
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest80838: did you try unloading b43-pci-bridge and b43, then loading b43
[07:02] <arulmoz> ActionParsnip: thanx... I was looking for a way not to use external devices.. but anyway nice to hangout with ubuntu community bye
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> arulmoz: if you mount the ISO, there may bean upgrade script in it's root
[07:03] <Guest80838> ActionParsnip: haven't tried much at all myself. I am not too familiar with commands etc to resolve this and I'm not in front of the machine unfortunately
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> arulmoz: I don't upgrade  so its not something I've ever had to bother with. I always clean install for an easier life
[07:03] <aaas> ActionParsnip yeah still nothing.... three things I have changed in the past few days are getting postfix to forward mail...maybe something with .ssh folder? and changing the x11 driver to 'dummy'  (this is headless) and making a script so that it would hibernate when idle for 1 hour (pm-hibernate), I'll try changing mving .ssh and maybe the video driver, but I'm running out of ideas
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest80838: sudo modprobe -r b43-pci-bridge b43; sleep 2; sudo modprobe b43
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest80838: simply resigning to 'not too familiar with commands' won't help you learn
[07:04] <kevin> jpds: any other ways?
[07:05] <jpds> kevin: Then it's not a firewall problem.
[07:06] <Guest80838> ActionParsnip: definitely agree with that mate. anything your showing me I am copying to read up on later for sure.
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> aaas: does the X forwarding fail on all OSes and only this one server?
[07:06] <kevin> jpds:do you have any ideas about this issue?
[07:06] <aaas> ActionParsnip only the one server
[07:07] <Guest80838> ActionParsnip: says "FATAL: Module b43_pci_bridge not found" hmmm
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> aaas: you could remove and purge openssh-server then reinstall it to get default settings (may need a local system visit rather than remote (smarthands)
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest80838: try unloading then reloading b43
[07:08] <aaas> ActionParsnip yes ill try that tomorrow if these other things dont work (it's headless and it's is a real pain to hook a monitor up to it)
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> aaas: I wouldn't take the head off it til it is 100% setup
[07:10] <aaas> ActionParsnip it was 100% setup, this is a new problem after being up for 78 days
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> aaas: i see
[07:10] <jpds> ActionParsnip: Nothing like purging ssh remotely.
[07:11] <kevin> when I ping the same ubuntu, why is the TTL value always different? if often change from 64 to 255.
[07:11] <Shiva> wtf
[07:11] <Shiva> why cant i register my nick
[07:11] <Shiva> I guess I can reigster my nick only for 1 irc server?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Shiva: it may already be owned
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Shiva: ask in #freenode for registering help :)
[07:12] <Shiva> ahhh jeezzz kk
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Shiva: you'd register it for the network (freenode) not just one server
[07:15]  * aaas decided to temporarly install a telnet server in order to purge ssh ....what a mess :/ 
[07:15] <Guest80838> ActionParsnip: no dice. I think I'm going to need to be in front of the machine. Thanks for the help, much appreciated .
[07:30] <ms_> hi everybody!!
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> hi ms_
[07:31] <lifelike> ms_, i see you're on all the popular channels ;)
[07:32] <ms_> how to find a file called just "foobar", but not foobar01, and especially a file but not a directory. I used locate foobar but it shows me manythings which I don't search.
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> ms_: did you run:  sudo updatedb   first?
[07:33] <ms_> lifelike, :)
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> ms_: you can then run:  locate foobar | grep -v foobar-1
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> oops
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> ms_: you can then run:  locate foobar | grep -v foobar01
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> ms_: will show all folders and files with 'foobar' in but not 'foobar01'
[07:34] <ms_> ActionParsnip, ok thanks you, thank you, thank you :)
[07:36] <Jordan_U> ms_: locate -b -r '^foobar$'
[07:36] <Mukhthar> hello, I forgot my password for remote server, i can still login by ssh without password. any way can i reset my password
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> Mukhthar: how do you mean 'remote server'?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Mukhthar: do you mean the password you connect to SSH with?
[07:37] <Jordan_U> ms_: Though that will still show directories named "foobar".
[07:37] <Mukhthar> i have a vps
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Mukhthar: you can run:  passwd     and set your password of the user you are right now
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Mukhthar: you can see what that is with:  whoami
[07:38] <Mukhthar> ActionParsnip: it is prompting for current password, which i donot remember
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Mukhthar: then you will need to be another user with sudo access, or root
[07:38] <ms_> Jordan_U,  thank you. :)
[07:38] <Jordan_U> ms_: You're welcome.
[07:38] <Mukhthar> ActionParsnip:  root login disabled, i am the user with root privilage.
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Mukhthar: so the root account is locked down?
[07:39] <ms_> :)
[07:39] <Mukhthar> ActionParsnip : unfortunately yes
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> Mukhthar: could try:   sudo -i    see if the sudo grace period is still active
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> Mukhthar: if you get a hash prompt,you are in :)
[07:40] <Mukhthar> ActionParsnip : nope, prompt for password.
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> Mukhthar: gah, then you'll need someone local to reset the password for you
[07:41] <Mukhthar> ActionParsnip : oops, this means i have locked myself.  no local help.  Any tips for backup so that i can reinstall it remotely
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Mukhthar: backup of what?
[07:42] <Mukhthar> ActionParsnip : back up of system
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Mukhthar: why do you not already have one?
[07:43] <Mukhthar> ActionParsnip:  i have the backup of /home /var and /etc is this enough
[07:44] <Mukhthar> ActionParsnip: while some files we left out from /var and /etc for previlage reasons
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Mukhthar: not sure, maybe your VPS provider can advise
[07:45] <Mukhthar> ActionParsnip : okay, thank you :)
[07:46] <invariant> Where can I see why service mysql start fails?
[07:47] <somsip> invariant: /var/log/mysql/error.log
[07:48] <invariant> somsip, it is /var/log/mysql.err and no, it does not contain a reason.
[07:50] <somsip> invariant: depending what you're running, you may find that /var/log/mysql.err is empty and never gets written to
[07:50] <srj001> no one has root access for a properly designed operating system
[07:50] <invariant> somsip, yes, it is empty.
[07:50] <srj001> no one has ship access for a properly designed ship operating system
[07:51] <invariant> srj001, but it should log somewhere when it doesn't even start.
[07:51] <somsip> invariant: so, does /var/log/mysql/error.log exist and is it not empty?
[07:51] <nydel> srj001: i hear that all the time but don't quite see why, 'sudo -i' exists
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> srj001: you can run:   sudo -i   and effectively become root.
[07:51] <invariant> ubottu, exists, but empty.
[07:51] <nydel> ActionParsnip: hah
[07:51] <invariant> somsip, exists but empty.
[07:52] <somsip> invariant: is this from startup or when you start it manually?
[07:52] <invariant> somsip, manually using startup scripts.
[07:54] <somsip> invariant: you could try enabling the general_error_log in /etc/mysql/my.cnf but it shouldn't really be required. I run mysql on a few servers from 10.* to 12.04 and error logging has always worked out of the box
[07:54] <invariant> somsip, the rootfs is full apparently.
[07:54] <somsip> invariant: that'll do it
[07:54] <srj001> Only GUI
[07:54] <invariant> somsip, still, completely ridiculous that it doesn't write anything to stdout.
[07:54] <invariant> somsip, stderr
[07:54] <srj001> not console
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> invariant: uninstall unused kernels will help. As well as:  sudo apt-get clean
[07:55] <somsip> invariant: we live and learn. You've learned to df -h when services don't start up as expected...
[07:58] <karthick87> Unable to install ubuntu 10.10 in Dell Optiplex 390 System. Can anyone help me pls??
[07:58] <nydel> invariant: if you're strapped for space such on many wubi installs check for caches that might be outside your radar. in your home folder "du -h | grep [0-9]GB" can be interesting -- sometimes my imaps take up ridiculous amounts of space if i don't watch for example.
[07:59] <Jordan_U> karthick87: Ubuntu 10.10 has long since reached its end of life. Try installing a supported version of Ubuntu, like 12.04 LTS or 12.10.
[07:59] <invariant> nydel, I already know where the lost space comes from.
[07:59] <invariant> nydel, I just have to introduce a symbolic link somewhere and move some data.
[07:59] <nydel> invariant: space is space, is all i mean.
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: I'd go for Precise, it is supported til April 2017
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: or go for Quantal for shorter support but the latest bells and whistles
[08:00] <killer> hi...i wanna resize btrfs partition from precise pangolin
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> killer: I'd do it from a liveCD if the partition is the one you are booted to
[08:02] <karthick87> ActionParsnip: I think the problem is because of video card is not supported.. Any help for installing ubuntu 10.10 im Dell Optiplex 390 will be appreciated beacause our software supports only version 10.10. We have more than 900 ubuntu desktops all are running ubuntu 10.10. Now we have purchased new Desktops with recent configurations, there we are not able to install ubuntu 10.10..
[08:02] <nydel> ActionParsnip: for how long technically is pre-precise i.e. lucid supported?
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: its not supported in any way
[08:02] <arp-> hello, i need change resolution in Ubuntu Live CD 12.10 ?
[08:03] <killer> well my system is installed in different partition (ext4)......i only have some data in btrfs :ActionParsnip
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> nydel: Lucid desktop is supported til April 2013
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> killer: thats good
[08:03] <aaas> ActionParsnip so stupid me put the following line in /etc/hosts  '192.168.1.152 localhost server1' it looks like all xinfo was being forwarding to itself (I guess)... thanks for your help
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> aaas: no worries :)
[08:03] <nydel> arp-: you can go to "display" inside system settings, upper right corner of screen pop-down menu.
[08:04] <killer> but ubuntu is not resizing it using gparted(btrfs-tools is installed)
[08:04] <killer> but ubuntu is not resizing it using gparted(btrfs-tools is installed):ActionParsnip
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: seems to use an Intel HD Graphics 2000
[08:04] <nydel> arp-: there's also a package called arandr, a GUI for xrandr.
[08:04] <nydel> ActionParsnip: thanks
[08:04] <arp-> nydel: hello, thank but the live cd resolution is very very hihg and i can't read screen font's
[08:05] <arp-> i can't find de "xorg.conf" in live cd
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: should be ok
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> arp-: there isn't one by default, but if you make one it will be used
[08:06] <mightyiam> hiiii everyonee
[08:06] <arp-> where download de xorg.conf for copy tu live cd?
[08:06] <nydel> arp-: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1369591/
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> arp-: why write 'tu' when 'to' is te correct word and is no extra letters?
[08:07] <mightyiam> bug #1050537 is giving me the headaches
[08:07] <nydel> arp-: that is the failsafe config file
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> arp-: what video chip do you use?
[08:07] <mightyiam> no... excuse me, bug #1050437
[08:07] <brontosaurusrex> decent screen keyboard app?
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> brontosaurusrex: onboard is in a default install.....
[08:08] <nydel> onboard is pretty awesome.. simple or bells & whistles if you like
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> mightyiam: is the filesystem writable?
[08:08] <brontosaurusrex> ActionParsnip: is that an actual app name?
[08:08] <arp-> in this file, haven't the flag for set resolutions
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> brontosaurusrex: search dash
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> arp-: what video chip do you use?
[08:09] <arp-> nvidia
[08:09] <nydel> brontosaurusrex: i believe it's in "universal access" in system settings
[08:09] <nydel> brontosaurusrex: "typing" tab
[08:09] <lovre> hi all. im making a script that need to use some temp folder, but the /tmp is owned by root, and i want to execute my script as normal user. Is there a temp folder for non-root user in ubuntu?
[08:09] <arp-> i need generic xorg.conf or safe.mode xorg.conf
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> arp-: is it a switchable video chip (intel and nvidia) in a laptop?
[08:10] <arp-> no
[08:10] <arp-> is desktop pc
[08:10] <ikonia> lovre: /tmp should be 777
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> arp-: do you have web access in the liveCD?
[08:10] <arp-> nvidia geforce 7000
[08:10] <nydel> lovre: "sudo chmod 755 /tmp" should change that how ikonia said it should be.
[08:10] <nydel> *777
[08:10] <ikonia> no it won't
[08:10] <ikonia> 777 /tmp will
[08:10] <arp-> um
[08:11] <lovre> ikonia: oops, you are right. sorry for stupid question, i seen user root, and presumed its limited :( sorry!
[08:11] <arp-> yes, in console
[08:11] <ikonia> lovre: not a problem
[08:11] <lovre> ikonia: thanx!
[08:11] <arp-> or mount local hd
[08:11] <Richard_Cavell> Is Supertux being actively developed?
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> arp-: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> arp-: you can then run:  killall -u $USER    and log back in and get a good res :)
[08:11] <arp-> um
[08:11] <nydel> Richard_Cavell: i hope so lol
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> arp-: can you drop the 'um', its completely redundant
[08:12] <arp-> ah
[08:12] <arp-> ok
[08:12] <arp-> sorry  for my bad english
[08:12] <Jordan_U> ikonia: /tmp/ should be 1777 (the sticky bit is important for security).
[08:12] <arp-> i speack spanish
[08:13] <ikonia> Jordan_U: very true
[08:13] <ikonia> a good catch
[08:13] <Savage_CL> lol
[08:13] <nydel> hmm what is 1777?
[08:14] <nydel> diff 1777 777, i mean?
[08:14] <arp-> thank for your help, try install nvidia drivers.
[08:14] <arp-> good bye
[08:14] <nydel> arp-: you're welcome here and good luck
[08:14] <mightyiam> ActionParsnip: yes, the filesystem is mounted rw, yes. it is btrfs in lvm in md raid, system is one filesystem. (rw,subvol=@) is the full options
[08:15] <Jordan_U> nydel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky_bit
[08:16] <Jordan_U> lovre: Hopefully you haven't actually used chmod on /tmp/ yet (if you have, we'll need to make sure that it gets set back to the correct value).
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> mightyiam: oh softraid.....
[08:16] <nydel> Jordan_U: thanks this is kind of important isn't it lol
[08:17] <lovre> Jordan_U: i didnt, since it was allready on drwxrwxrwt
[08:17] <lovre> Jordan_U: why is the last rwt and not rwx?
[08:17] <mightyiam> ActionParsnip: yup, i doubt that's the issue, though, right? why would such a low level thing have such a specific affect?
[08:17] <nydel> lovre: excuse the botched advice
[08:17] <lovre> nydel: not a problem
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> mightyiam: no idea, software raid is nasty though
[08:18] <nydel> lovre: i believe the rwt distinguishes that only the owner may delete or rename files.
[08:18] <lovre> nydel: i see. thanks :)
[08:20] <mightyiam> ActionParsnip: perhaps it is nasty but i'm nastier :)
[08:20] <mightyiam> ActionParsnip: i don't wanna go there, anyway. would you have an idea as to where i can look further?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> mightyiam: no idea dude, maybe others can advise
[08:32] <mightyiam> ActionParsnip: thankssssss
[08:36] <dylan> Hey
[08:37] <dylan> anyone here care to offer some assistance perhaps?
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> dylan: ask and see
[08:38] <dylan> ahh allright.
[08:38] <dylan> well! i'd like to remove the "full-disk encryption" feature for my ubuntu 12.10
[08:39] <dylan> i diddnt know what it was when i installed, and now its only anoying.
[08:39] <dylan> and it causes my computer to not be able to start-up right.
[08:40] <dylan> so, any advice?
[08:40] <mightyiam> ActionParsnip: you're so cool. you actually tried to help already with this issue: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+question/208473
[08:41] <mightyiam> dylan: that is... some technical work, i'm almost sure there isn't a push-button way to disable encryption
[08:42] <dylan> i figured as much :/ but im fairly good with my computer-knowledge. so even technical help i should be able to get it :)
[08:42] <dylan> but if there isnt a way im sure i can find one >:I
[08:43] <mightyiam> dylan: i can tell you the theory as i'm not familiar with whole disk encryption
[08:44] <dylan> alrighty
[08:44] <somsip> dylan: I can imagine that this still applies, though it is old so it's possibly out of date http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1543141
[08:45] <dylan> hah! well that sucks
[08:45] <dylan> time to sort through some system files and mess with my libs >:D
[08:45] <dylan> thanks for the help!
[08:45] <dylan> :)
[08:45] <somsip> dylan: np. Try to second-source info to the contrary, but I think it';s a one-way thing
[08:46] <dylan> will do
[08:54] <sanav> !ot
[09:03] <srj001>  The Asguard Rassmussen managed to obtain ubuntu including all the source code for the entire Asguard fleet, along with the Tok'ra
[09:03] <srj001>  version 10
[09:03] <srj001>  Rassmussen worked hard on adding support for their ships (architecture).
[09:03] <srj001>  I know how to obtain source code too
[09:03] <FloodBot1> srj001: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:03] <srj001>  I do it through stargate
[09:03] <srj001>  correction
[09:03] <elvano_> My screenresolution is 1024x600, hence I can not see property windows etc completely. Any way to decrease the in size? (currently using gnome classic)
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> elvano_: what video chip do you use?
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> elvano_: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[09:10] <elvano_> A very good question, ActionParsnip... . The output is 'precise'
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> elvano_: run:   lspci | grep -i vga    what is output please?
[09:13] <elvano_> I found online that the Graphic adapter is Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 3600, ActionParsnip. Commandline output: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> elvano_: I've only seen those work with an xorg.conf file personally
[09:14] <brandon420> !dual boot
[09:15] <elvano_> Well, I've vhad some issues with installing xubuntu/lubuntu since both didn't find a display for desktop mode, ActionParsnip
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> elvano_: try the boot option: nomodeset
[09:15] <brandon420> i know that installing windows before ubuntu is easy as pie. What about ubunut before windows? Any major issues?
[09:16] <iceroot> brandon420: you have to reinstall grub after that
[09:16] <iceroot> brandon420: thats all
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: you will need to manually add Grub back to the MBRas the windows installer will blicndly overwrite the MBR with its own crappy bootloader
[09:17] <elvano_> I have to do this while at the grub's selection, ActionParsnip ?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> elvano_: yes, you add it in Grub before the kernel boots
[09:17] <brandon420> ice799, ActionParsnip this can be done from a live usb?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: yes, use a chroot from live USB
[09:18] <elvano_> Alright,I'll give it a try. I'll be back. @ ActionParsnip
[09:18] <milan> hey
[09:18] <milan> hey
[09:18] <milan> hey
[09:18] <milan> hey
[09:18] <FloodBot1> milan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <almoxarife> do headers get installed by default in the latest ubuntu?
[09:19] <brandon420> Will that get rid of my settings?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: which settings?
[09:19] <milan> haai
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: as far as I am aware, yes
[09:19] <milan> hello
[09:20] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, customizing settings
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: of what?
[09:20] <milan> hey
[09:20] <niels7789> hoi
[09:20] <milan> hey
[09:20] <ct529> ActionParsnip: hi there! Upgraded to 12.10 and moving from 3.2 to 3.5 kernel reduced startup time from approx 2 minutes to approx 30 sec.
[09:20] <niels7789> hoi
[09:20] <milan> hoeist
[09:20] <milan> waar ben jij nu
[09:20] <niels7789> goed helaas wel
[09:20] <ct529> ActionParsnip: it seesm that btrfs works much better on 12.10
[09:20] <milan> Xd
[09:20] <niels7789> hoi
[09:20] <Bacon_> BACON?
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: you don't just get settings, they are settings OF something
[09:20] <brandon420> oh, my interface, bootscreen
[09:21] <niels7789> hoi
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> ct529: sweet
[09:21] <brandon420> hey
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: well, you will get a grub boot loader and then you will choose the OS as normal. You are just doing it the hard way
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: the grub configs will be untouched, only the MBR is changed.,
[09:22] <milan> hey
[09:22] <niels7789> hoi sam
[09:22] <milan> sam
[09:22] <samlamstra> hoi
[09:22] <niels7789> kom ook coentje
[09:22] <milan> hahaha
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: if you are worried, then run a full backup before you start
[09:22] <niels7789> xd
[09:22] <milan> samen werken
[09:22] <niels7789> ?
[09:22] <samlamstra> sgoed
[09:22] <niels7789> okii
[09:22] <milan> LoL
[09:22] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, im not sure how to back up my settings, but i am backing up my files and such to a external hdd
[09:22] <niels7789> coen is awesome
[09:23] <niels7789> sam
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: add /etc   to your backup
[09:23] <Jordan_U> niels7789: Please stop.
[09:23] <milan> haai
[09:23] <samlamstra> coen!!\
[09:23] <niels7789> hoi coen
[09:23] <brandon420> hoi
[09:23] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, Okay. If i run into problems can you help me out?
[09:23] <brandon420> aka, you going to be on in like a hour?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: the wholecommunity will :)
[09:26] <blackshirt> hello
[09:26] <blackshirt> Good evening
[09:27] <elvano_> I'm not really managing it, ActionParsnip ...
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | elvano_
[09:29] <ct529> ActionParsnip: sorry, lost connection ....  is there a way of upgrading the kernel to 3.6 - 3.7?
[09:32] <zone> hi i try to use usb webcam,i try cheese and vlc both are failure,cheese opened but nothing is open on display screen
[09:32] <zone> what is thr problem
[09:32] <auronandace> zone: lack of light?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> ct529: 3.7 is a Raring kernel
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> zone: run:   lsusb    you will see an 8 character hex ID. Use that to find guides
[09:36] <zone> auronandance,no i have enough light around my system and when try with vlc it shows some error notification even my neighboring system working with camera successfully
[09:36] <jen_> so none of my windows have exit or minimize buttons anymore
[09:36] <jen_> help?
[09:37] <franco> I don't know, but someone who did would probably ask you if you've changed anything recently.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> jen_: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[09:40] <jen_> oneiric
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> jen_: do you use compiz (desktop effects etc)?
[09:40] <jen_> ActionParsnip, yes...haha thats when it started
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> jen_: what do you mean?
[09:41] <florian_> hello, how can I find out how much voltage and current is on my usb-ports?
[09:41] <jen_> ActionParsnip, I was just messin with the settings earlier then I realized I didn't have exit or minimize buttons on my windows x-x
[09:41] <elvano_> I've booted with the nomodeset option, ActionParsnip . What should it do?
[09:42] <lovre> hi all. why cant i access a samba share by typing smb://ip_address/myFolder -> i get error: Failed to mount Windows share.
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> jen_: press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace
[09:42] <auronandace> elvano_: disables kernel mode setting
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> elvano_: make the video a bit more stable
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> lovre: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[09:43] <jen_> ActionParsnip, can I just run it in a terminal?
[09:43] <ct529> ActionParsnip: yes, but is it possible to backport it to 12.10?
[09:43] <ct529> ActionParsnip: or has anyone done so already?
[09:43] <elvano_> so basicly installing Xubuntu might work with this option, ActionParsnip ?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> jen_: sure but you will need the terminal running all the time. You can try it in terminal
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> elvano_: sure, it doesn't need 3D stuff like Ubuntu does
[09:44] <jen_> ActionParsnip, what do you mean running all the time?
[09:44] <elvano_> Thanks, ActionParsnip
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> ct529: if you can find debs, sure. It won't be supported here though. Mixing kernels from other releases is not advised nor supported
[09:45] <alon> any1 has any info about upcoming perl update?
[09:45] <Evil_Eric> i need a coder
[09:45] <franco> //sdflk/exit
[09:45] <Bacon_> It will probably break everything...
[09:45] <alon> Evil_Eric, in what language
[09:46] <Evil_Eric> bash
[09:46] <andrea_> hi there
[09:46] <alon> Evil_Eric, that's not coding but without arguing what's your question
[09:46] <alon> you can also try #linux for bash coding
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> or #bash
[09:47] <andrea_> so guys, i would like to know if it is normal for ubuntu to have ~30kbps of HDD writes when idling /out any process going on
[09:47] <alon> there's a channel for bash coders? god im going to laugh at them for not being able to code in a real language, brb
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: try iotop
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> alon: why, bash is great :)
[09:47] <lovre> ActionParsnip: precise
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> lovre: if you use the network option from nautilus, can you access it there ok?
[09:49] <lovre> ActionParsnip: i dont use nautilus, i use thunar. when i try to go to network folder (at least i think thats the one), i get "Failed to retrieve share list from server."
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> lovre: if you run:  smbtree     in terminal, do you see the shares?
[09:51] <lovre> ActionParsnip: No, for this server there is no tree. for others yes. How do i provide username and pass when accessing with smb://some_ip ?
[09:51] <Evil_Eric> hiya ActionParsnip
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> lovre: when you connect to it with the file browser usually, or you can set it in /etc/fstab
[09:52] <jen> okay will unnstalling compiz get rid of my problem...since that doesnt work at all
[09:52] <Bacon_> Yes.
[09:52] <zone> auronandace when i try with vlc it shows ,Your input can't be opened: VLC i s unable to open the MRL'v4l2:///dev/video0'.check the log for details
[09:53] <flubbernugget> will getting rid of compiz solve me problems?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> lovre: if you run:    smbclient //server/share -U user%password       (changing as you need), do you see the shares?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> zone: did you try te hex ID as I advised?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> flubbernugget: yu havn'r stated what problems you are  having, so how can we make an intelligent comment?
 lsusb list ID 0ac8:3450 Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[09:55] <flubbernugget> ActionParsnip, I am jen, I was just in here, pardon me. I want my minimize and maximize buttons back permenently.
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> zone: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese/+question/132478
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> flubbernugget: well I don't know that.....
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> flubbernugget: if you run the:  metacity --replace     do you get them back?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> zone: source:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+%220ac8%3A3450%22
[09:56] <flubbernugget> ActionParsnip, I am stuck and I can't get to my side bar where I go to everything
[09:56] <jackki> http://schilderijvanhetjaar.nl/paintings/vote_for_painting/628
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> flubbernugget: Log off then log into Unity2D and you'll be ok
[09:57] <flubbernugget> ActionParsnip, I can't nip this problem right now?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> flubbernugget: how do you mean,logging off and then logging in to the 2D session not fast enough?
[09:58] <schreber> Out of curiosity does Ubuntu still offer a minimalistic install disk sim. to Debian's business card install?
[09:58] <flubbernugget> ActionParsnip, what if I deleted compiz?
 yes i am seein above you mention site
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> flubbernugget: why bother, it takes up very little space
[09:59] <flubbernugget> ActionParsnip, so maybe this problem will go away and I will have normal boxes again?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> flubbernugget: more than likely, yes. Use the 2D session
[10:00] <mnice> !search killswitch-applet
[10:00] <mnice> moin
[10:00] <mnice> did I do that wrong ^^ o.O ?
[10:01] <mnice> looking for package killswitch-applet for ubuntu LTS
[10:01] <florian_> bye, I found a solution
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> !find killswitch
[10:02] <mnice> ActionParsnip: looking for python tray applet
[10:03] <stobix> GAH! How do I get gnome-terminal to not use "ANSIXblahblah" as encoding, but the one listed in my LC_*/LANG variables set in /etc/locale.conf?
[10:03] <brandon420> how can i easily rename a bunch of files?
[10:03] <mnice> killswitch itself is dependency of applet of course and killswitch is installed by default
[10:03] <stobix> brandon420: mmv
[10:03] <Kaco> !find pixel
[10:03] <mnice> !find killswitch-applet
[10:04] <brandon420> stobix, explain?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> mnice: like this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/03/jupiter-applet-officially-switches-to.html
[10:04] <mnice> thx ActionParsnip
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> mnice: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=python%20killswitch%20tray%20applet&kp=-1    too hard?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> mnice: not a particularly technical search, its using the exact words you used.....
[10:05] <mnice> ActionParsnip: not too hard .. i wanted to use bot here specifically
[10:05] <stobix> brandon420: ah, sorry. If you have a bunch of names like "hello-foo-1", "meh-foo-2" and so on, you can easily rename them to "hello-bar-1", "meh-bar-2" and so forth. What is it you want to do more exactly? A simple terminal for loop could also be helpful.
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> mnice: its not an official package, so ubottu won't find it
[10:06] <mnice> yeah, i see
[10:06] <mnice> so plan B == DDG ;)
[10:06] <bdi> How can i see if i have JRE installed?
[10:07] <mnice> bdi: depends
[10:07] <bdi> mnice, ?
[10:07] <mnice> bdi: dpkg -l | grep -i jre
[10:07] <mnice> or it might not came from package but from some custom tgz or installer
[10:07] <bdi> mnice, no output from that command
[10:08] <mnice> but official oracle jre is always /usr/java
[10:08] <bdi> mnice, also there us no /usr/java
[10:08] <mnice> bdi: so you have not jre installed as .deb package - that's with sure
[10:08] <bdi> how do i install jre?
[10:09] <mnice> bdi: show us output from: dpkg -l | egrep -i java\|jre\|jdk
[10:09]  * mnice smells that some paste here is about to happen :P
[10:10] <bdi> http://bin.cakephp.org/view/980784492
[10:10] <bdi> mnice, ^
[10:11] <mnice> bdi: so you don't have installed any kind of JRE|JDK (oracle | openjdk) .. use please apt-get or aptitude to isntall that
[10:11] <mnice> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> bdi: java -version
[10:12] <mnice> ActionParsnip: he has not
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> bdi: do you want Oracle Java?
[10:12] <a111> (✿ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  )ｱﾊﾊ八八ﾉヽﾉヽﾉヽﾉ ＼ / ＼/ ＼
[10:12] <lollko> lolz
[10:12] <lollko> wtf?
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> bdi: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[10:13] <mnice> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[10:13] <freakynl> Hi, will ubuntu ever clean up it's old kernels?
[10:13] <k1l_> freakynl: no
[10:13] <andrea_> ActionParsnip: thank you, i've found the proces and apparently it's "jbd2" and related to ext4 journaling. Do you happen to know if and how can i disable journaling?
[10:13] <freakynl> k1l_: very reassuring, thx
[10:14] <k1l_> freakynl: just remove the old linux-image-... packages
[10:14] <k1l_> but leave at least one kernel on your system :)
[10:14] <freakynl> k1l_: I know how it works, just fed up with having to clean stuff, reconfigure cuz /boot is full
[10:14] <k1l_> i dont think ubuntu creates a seperate /boot
[10:15] <bdi> ActionParsnip, mmm which java is better?
[10:15] <mnice> andrea_: as a core feature of ext3|4 you should keep journaling running
[10:15] <bdi> ActionParsnip, so the candidates are open java and oracle java right?
[10:16] <andrea_> mnice: but it writes too much to the drives, and since i have multiple VM's running on a SSD that results in many GB every day...
[10:16] <mnice> andrea_: journal_ioprio=N .. see `man mount' and check, howto change the priority
[10:17] <mnice> andrea_: journaling won't produce GBs per day ...
[10:17] <karthick87> Does ubuntu 12.10 has gnome-classic ???
[10:18] <rory> yes
[10:20] <andrea_> mnice:  http://pastebin.com/bCAPpBbc
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: why store VMs on an SSD?
[10:23] <andrea_> ActionParsnip: well i don't have other drives, and they run so fast on SSD's
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: they aren't really made for that sort of thing
[10:25] <andrea_> ActionParsnip: i know, but other than frequent write rates what problem can they have?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: I'd say that was a pretty big issue, there are limited writes in SSDs.
[10:25] <mnice> omg
[10:26] <mnice> sorry for correcting you in that but SSDs are excellent for storing VMs of course :D
[10:26] <andrea_> ActionParsnip: so how about just disabling journaling at least on the VM's ?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: sounds good, also add the mount option:   noatime   to the VMs and host
[10:27] <mnice> andrea_: again - do not disable journaling with ext4
[10:27] <k1l_> andrea_: if you dont want journaling you should have choosen ext2 over the ext3 and ext4 variants.
[10:28] <andrea_> ActionParsnip: afaik noatime just prefents the system to change the time of when a file was accessed. Is there other to it?
[10:28] <andrea_> k1l_: any other advantage of ext4 to ext2 ?
[10:29] <k1l_> andrea_: i would say ext4 is the biggest advantage. but you dont want journaling. so the choice is very limited.
[10:29] <k1l_> and im not sure if trim works with ext2 and ext3. so that will be other issues
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: think about it
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: to update the time, the drive has to be written to.......
[10:30] <Desproges> Hi, is that normal the files rc0.d/K20ssh (and others rc*/) were missing in my ubuntu server ? The ssh service start at reboot, but I wonder how when theses files are missing ...
[10:31] <andrea_> ActionParsnip: i know but i'm talking about preventing writes when the system is idling, and i'm not accessing any file when the system idles
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: does iotop show you anything?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: what are you using to virtualize?
[10:31] <andrea_> ActionParsnip:  http://pastebin.com/bCAPpBbc
[10:32] <devswap> I realise this is slightly off topic but is a 5400rpm usb2 hard disk fast enough to play full def 1080p mp4 videos?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> devswap: should be, yes
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> devswap: how big is the screen playing them?
[10:33] <andrea_> devswap: you can just divide the video size for the video lenght to see if the average transfer would apply to the USB2 protocol
[10:33] <freakynl> k1l_: I probably did, still doesn't mean I want 30 kernel versions :)
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Desproges: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    on the server?
[10:33] <devswap> actionparsnip: thanks - wasnt sure if a 7200 would be needed. There isnt a particular screen - I just didnt know if it would be fast enough and hence the question
[10:34] <Desproges> oneiric
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> devswap: i'd just look at actual throughput
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Desproges: what if you reinstall the openssh-server package?
[10:35] <devswap> actionparsnip: you got any experience of samsung drives - I always buy western digital but the samsung is cheaper
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> freakynl: there is a package called remove old kernels or something that someone made on launchpad if you want to try it
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> devswap: I'd ask in ##hardware about that
[10:35] <devswap> will do thanks
[10:36] <tsimpson> !upstart | Desproges, we have /etc/init/ssh.conf
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> devswap: unless you have a big screen, you don't need 1080P
[10:36] <Desproges> ohhh thanks that's the answer !
[10:37] <devswap> actionparsnip: most probably wont be but as I was asking the question I picked that as probably most resource hungry
[10:37] <brontosaurusrex> devswap: its fast enough in most cases (for AVC bitrates)
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> devswap: your system will cache some to RAM as it'splayed, you'll be fine
[10:38] <Desproges> ubottu, I didn't explained well the problem in fact. Theses files weren't present but the ssh worked fine, and now, theses files are present. Can that be a problem ?
[10:38] <Desproges> ah ah
[10:38] <Desproges> tsimpson, *
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: what are you using to virtualize?
[10:38] <brontosaurusrex> devswap: it should get about 160 Mbits/s, and avc video is usually no more than 25 Mbits/s
[10:39] <frederick> i  am using a UGEE RAINBOW digitizer on my ubuntu studio,but it's now work
[10:39] <andrea_> ActionParsnip: vmware workstation
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: have you asked in their channel?
[10:39] <andrea_> ActionParsnip: vmware workstation
[10:39] <andrea_> ops
[10:39] <andrea_> srry
[10:39] <tsimpson> Desproges: have a look at the contents of the script, it's probably just a wrapper around the upstart commands
[10:39] <frederick> anybody konw how to insall a digitizer(or called graphic tablet) on ubuntu????
[10:39] <devswap> brontosaurusrex: ok thanks - just the brand to choose now
[10:39] <Desproges> yes, that's it, the ssh.conf file contains "exec /usr/sbin/sshd -D"
[10:40] <brontosaurusrex> devswap: i have bunch on wds, all still working
[10:40] <andrea_> ActionParship: but this is a problem that also applies to the real host, so it's not like only the virtualized hosts have this huge number of writes
[10:40] <brontosaurusrex> of*
[10:40] <frederick> please help me!Anybody konw how to insall a digitizer(or called graphic tablet) on ubuntu????
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: does it happen when the host is not running the server software?
[10:40] <frederick> i tried wizardpen but dose not work
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> frederick: is it a piece of hardware?
[10:41] <k1l_> !hcl | frederick
[10:41] <jbvc> hola
[10:41] <jbvc> alguien sabe si truecryp se puede instalar en ubutu¿
[10:41] <jbvc> es posible acer Esteganografía?
[10:41] <jbvc> alguien qiere comentar o aablar de ello¿
[10:41] <devswap> brontosaurusrex: yes I love WD but tempted by cheaper samsung
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> frederick: how does it connect to the PC?
[10:42] <frederick> ActionParsnip,by USB port
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> frederick: If you run:  lsusb    you will see an 8 character hex ID, use it to find guides
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> frederick: one line will identify the device
[10:42] <brontosaurusrex> devswap: id go with whatever has better replacement policy
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> frederick: if it is unclear, unplug the device and rerun lsusb, the line that vanishes is the device
[10:43] <frederick> ActionParsnip,what shoud i do if i got the line?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> frederick: use the 8 character hex ID to find guides online
[10:44] <frederick> ActionParsnip,just google it?or what??
[10:44] <brontosaurusrex> devswap: always test them when brand new (copy few mp3s or whatever and check md5sums)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> frederick: yes, that would be how you can find stuff online using a piece of text......
[10:44] <frederick> ok i'll try now
[10:44] <andrea_> ActionParsnip: yes, it appens also an my notebook that has never seen any VM. Actually that pastebin was of the notebok, bit for that server it is the same exact thing
[10:45] <brontosaurusrex> devswap: i had a noname drive that would copy like 4 of 5 files correcly, no system errors reported, but md5 was my return tool
[10:45] <devswap> anyone here in the uk and can recommend a good manufacturer of 2.5inch disk enclosures that are strong and built well
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: I'd check in:  dmesg | tail    see what is going on, may give clues. Also test RAM using memtest in Grub
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> devswap: ##hardware   again
[10:45] <k1l_> !ot | devswap
[10:46] <frederick> ActionParsnip,it's something like this:Bus 004 Device 002: ID 5543:006e UC-Logic Technology Corp.
[10:46] <frederick> then i google it?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> frederick: YES!
[10:46] <devswap> sorry all - I know off topic but we are all techies - wont ask again :)
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> frederick: well,I found a fix...
[10:48] <frederick> ActionParsnip,really?????how
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> frederick: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[10:49] <frederick> ActionParsnip,Quantal
[10:50] <frederick> ActionParsnip,the output is quantal
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> frederick: http://pastebin.com/3r2Qaz55
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> frederick: not sure if it works, worth a punt. I used the ID you generated, just like I said and *poof* a bug report with possible fix.....imagine......
[10:51] <devswap> member:brontosaurusrex: may I pm you
[10:52] <brontosaurusrex> devswap: sure3
[10:52] <frederick> ActionParsnip,i will try it now,later i will report to you
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> !info xorg-input-wizardpen
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> frederick: even with crappy google there are 2 bugs with 2 different solutions...
[10:57] <unrar> hi
[10:59] <zone> n<ActionParsnip> hi i followed the guide U mentioned above,and changes user and group to accesse but again i opened cheese iot shows nothing
[10:59] <zone> just blank on display window.
[10:59] <aaron_> Azzle-Dazzle
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> zone: is there a bug for the webcam reported?
[11:00] <ooo_> hi. is possible in Unity to disable a ALT+RMB hotkey
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> ooo_: ALT+rmb does nothing here.
[11:00] <ooo_> (I can't find it in keyboard settings)
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> ooo_: what does yours do?
[11:01] <ooo_> ALT+RMB cause window moving by mouse
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> ooo_: what window manager are you using?
[11:02] <aaron_> guys ive got this issue with this old laptop, It currently has no OS installed, I tried to copy puppy linux.iso onto USB drive and boot from it, But the laptop said that it doesnt support booting from USB
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: does it have a floppy drive?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: and do you have a floppy disk?
[11:02] <shojo> O.o
[11:03] <aaron_> but...... I used unetbooting on my desktop pc to create a bootable usb drive and it made progress :) only the error i get now is 'unable to boot, please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu'
[11:03] <aaron_> yes and no ActionParsnip
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/    you could use that if you had a floppy
[11:03] <ooo_> I use metacity.
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: sounds like you grabbed a 64bit ISO
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> ooo_: ah, not sure there
[11:04] <aaron_> floppys are like gold dust now lol they disappeared centuries ago :)
[11:04] <aaron_> maybe im not sure ?
[11:04] <aaron_> ill try again
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: whole bunch of gold dust here then: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIB-OFFICE-DEPOT-2HD-IBM-3-1-2-DISKETTES-FORMATTED-1-44-MB-125-Discs-/221153599688?pt=US_Floppy_Zip_Jaz_Disks&hash=item337dc820c8
[11:04]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[11:05] <brandon420> I have a few boxes of those laying around
[11:05]  * aaron_ looks ashamed
[11:05] <Guest33025> how doI set my clock to synchronize every time I connect to the internet?
[11:05] <zone> ActionParsnip,no bugs in cheese and in vlc it shows Your input cant't be opened VLC is unable to open the MRL'v4l://'.check the log for details
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: sounds like the USB is booting, just that there are features in puppy which maybe the CPU doesn't have. I'd ask in the puppy channel
[11:06] <andrea_> can i have the CPU time output in seconds with PS and not in xx:xx:xx format?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: how are you showing the info?
,i dont know what is the bug that.
[11:09] <aaron_> Ill try that ActionParsnip thanks - I did have live version of puppy working, I ran it through a windows installer, However when i chose to remove windows and replace with puppy, it didnt install and left me with no OS at all. Im trying a different distro now so fingers crossed.
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> zone: did you try specifying the video device name?
[11:09] <aaron_> by the way, whats the puppy channel ? #puppy?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: try it, it's free
[11:10] <andrea_> ActionParsnip:  ps -eo pid,cputime | grep $PID | awk {'print $2'}
[11:10] <aaron_> whats free ?
[11:10] <zone> ActionParsnip,yes /dev/video0 and /dev/audio
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: joining irc channels
[11:11] <aaron_> :)
[11:11] <Xard> now that i managed to get xen booting after switching from uefi to mbr i've hit a new wall; xen doesn't seem to find /dev/mapper/VolGroup* entries (root being one of them) despite vanilla kernel does
[11:11] <aaron_> join #puppylinux
[11:11] <aaron_> foook !!
[11:13] <invariant> I have a file /etc/foo/apache.conf, but how does apache locate this file? I am not talking about /etc/apache2 .
[11:13] <aaron_> ITS ALIVE !!! lol, Turns out I was using the 64bit version.
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9178032/convert-hhmmss-mm-to-seconds-in-bash
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: called it
[11:15] <andrea_> ActionParsnip: i've done that way, the problem is that when the process hits the 24 hours, it overflows like that:   7442 1-13:10:18  like 1 day, 13 hours and this is not what i expected
[11:15] <zone> ActionParsnip> is there any other way to work on camera
[11:16] <invariant> Got it already.
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> zone: all I can suggest is report a bug, maybe others can advise
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: could ask in #bash too
[11:16] <Dolce> hello, i have to go on a server epiknet, but with xchat gnome, i don't know how to do
[11:16] <andrea_> oh wait -d
[11:17] <andrea_> ActionParsnip: ok this ink is different, i'm reading it now
[11:17] <andrea_> thanks man
[11:18] <Flynsarmy> hey guys. trying to boot and getting ERROR* MUX INFO call failed. using acpi=noirq on a dell xps 15z
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: tried the boot option:  noacpi
[11:24] <andrea_> ActionParsnip: solved using etimes instead of cputime
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> andrea_: groovy
[11:28] <Flynsarmy> actionparsnip I can load with acpi=off nomodeset but that isn't very helpful. I think its a bad intel driver in my nvidia optimus machine
[11:28] <jonas-k> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)           ???
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: yes, optimus is a pain
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> jonas-k: what are you trying to connect to?and using what?
[11:29] <jonas-k> postfix
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> jonas-k: without that detail, yourtext is meaningless
[11:29] <Flynsarmy> actiobparsnip the machine works fine for a while but after some Ubuntu updates it fails with the above message. how do I update Intel drivers?
[11:31] <Flynsarmy> actionparsnip should I use the edgers ppa?
[11:31] <Laibsch> I've just upgraded to precise from lucid and fonts are looking awful. Notice how the spacing in http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2012-11-19_01_31_40-5iqMWviI.png is completely off.
[11:31] <Laibsch> What's wrong and how do I fix this?  Fonts are bad in a number of places.
[11:31] <Xard> does anyone have any ideas or know possible reasons why xen kernel can't find any lvm partitions?
[11:32] <gordonjcp> Laibsch: somehow you are using a proportional font in place of a monospace font
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: I have no advise on optimus, its a mess imho
[11:33] <gordonjcp> Laibsch: I don't know why you would have set it that way, or how you'd manage to not notice initially
[11:33] <Flynsarmy> actionparsnip osx time I guess
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: not sure what that means
[11:33] <Flynsarmy> actionparsnip means time to drop Ubuntu for OSX
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Flynsarmy: ok
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/QuantalDesktop.png    looks like that
[11:37] <Laibsch> gordonjcp: I am glad you were able to pick that out just from the visual cues, something I can't do. I don't know why you think I did not notice initially, I did.  All users of the system are affected after the upgrade to precise
[11:38] <Laibsch> where would these changes be made system-widẻ
[11:40] <invariant> What is a simple software midi player?
[11:41] <Laibsch> invariant: try timidity
[11:41] <Laibsch> and you might check with aptitude which packages depend on timidity
[11:42] <jrib> Laibsch: /etc/fonts/conf.d/ has symlinks that affect fonts.  Since they are just symlinks, you simply delete the symlink to disable a setting.  There's also some font settings in your lightdm theme which may be carrying over (see /etc/lightdm/*)
[11:43] <BlackNarcissus> Hey everyone. I'll try to be clear and brief. I'm trying to fix a friend's laptop with 12.04. It suddenly stopped booting, system was corrupt, segfautl, unable to boot to root shell, etc. I managed to save data and reinstall. But like I thought, the HDD seems damaged. It took several hours for gparted to format the drive in ext3, and disk utility shows "Disk has a few bad sectors". I managed to install after multiple failures,
[11:43] <BlackNarcissus>  but it's painfully slow. Any suggestions ? Is the HDD dying ? Thanks.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: sounds like a dying drive to me, backup ASAP and get new
[11:45] <gordonjcp> yup
[11:45] <BlackNarcissus> ActionParsnip: That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure because disk utility says the disk is ok besides a few bad sectors.
[11:45] <gordonjcp> that's a dying hard disk
[11:45] <gordonjcp> BlackNarcissus: it should have no user-visible bad sectors at all
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> BlackNarcissus: bad sectors aren't great, they will spread. The drive is dying
[11:46] <gordonjcp> the real problem is that the spindle bearing is beginning to fail
[11:46] <BlackNarcissus> gordonjcp, ActionParsnip: Ok, then. My diagnostic wasn't that bad then. Guess my friend needs a new HDD. Waned to be sure before telling him. Thanks guys.
[11:47] <gordonjcp> then what happens is fragments of metal from the bearing start to rattle off the disk surface
[11:48] <os_> hi
[11:48] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[11:48] <BlackNarcissus> gordonjcp: Yeah, plus sometimes I think I can hear that peculiar sound HDD do when they're beginning to fail.
[11:49] <BlackNarcissus> Thanks anyway
[11:49] <os_> i am planing to make a dict dictionary
[11:49] <os_> and i wonder if i can hoste it in launchpad
[11:49] <os_> and i wonder if i can host it in launchpad
[11:52] <cousteau> I wonder why my $PATH needs to contain /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm  (which has only 2 binary files)  ...  guess someone was lazy to write all that in some script and decided it was better to pollute the $PATH
[11:52] <genius> max respect
[11:53] <jrib> cousteau: probably lightdm doing the polluting :)
[11:53] <cousteau> jrib, I suspect so, yes :/
[11:53] <cousteau> I was wondering why it's needed
[11:53] <gabriel__> If I type apt-get install appx, twice, does it install a second copy of the application? (I want to install 2 tomcat7's to use on different ports)
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> cousteau: same in Raring
[11:53] <Lexipain> test
[11:53] <cousteau> gabriel__, definitely not
[11:54] <cousteau> it'll say appx is already installed, and quit
[11:54] <cousteau> you should run the program with different settings
[11:54] <cousteau> (the program probably has an option to select the port, or to select a settings file)
[11:57] <mgedmin> hey, when ubuntu pops up those "whoops, gnome-shell crashed, do you want to send a problem report etc." dialogs and I say yes
[11:57] <mgedmin> can I look them up later?
[11:57] <Laibsch> brb
[11:58] <mgedmin> see the stack trace etc.?
[11:59] <shevy> hmm when I want to switch away from unity, to i.e. fluxbox, what would be the proper way to do so? I was used to modify /etc/inittab and use runlevel 3 there, and use "exec fluxbox" in ~/.xinitrc, but somehow I cant find that inittab file, and I am not sure where else the runlevel could be defined hmm
[11:59] <cousteau> mgedmin, I don't use gnome-shell, but xubuntu seems to have a "Show details" button
[11:59] <mgedmin> show details, yes, that exists
[11:59] <jrib> shevy: don't you use lightdm?  Or some other login manager?
[12:00] <mgedmin> but I mean _after_ I press "Send", can I look up the thing on the Internet?  convert it into a bug on Launchpad, or forward it upstream?
[12:01] <pytajacy> how to restore default hotkeys?
[12:02] <shevy> jrib, ah... hmm I am not sure, let me try to find out what I currently use (I was so used to using just xinitrc alone)
[12:03] <shevy> jrib: oh yeah, I think I use lightdm... "lightdm --session-child 12 15"
[12:03] <shevy> never saw it before btw :)
[12:03] <jrib> shevy: when you first start your computer, what do you see?  You see a login screen?
[12:04] <shevy> oh, I configured for auto-login of my user account, but I suppose if I toggle that off, I would get a login screen
[12:05] <jrib> shevy: you don't need to turn it off.  Just log out and you'll be taken to the login screen.  From there, you can find a gear or circle next to your username.  When you click on it, you can choose a different session.  If you've installed fluxbox from the repositories, fluxbox should be a choice
[12:05] <pytajacy> Is any way to do it?
[12:05] <shevy> ah ok, I'll do that soon then, thanks jrib!
[12:24] <Lexipain> he
[12:25] <aaron_> Is it possible to change grub location ? I installed grub on MBR but when booting it says no OS installed, I had 3 options when deciding where to install grub, One was 'Root' 'Install to superblock of linux'
[12:28] <Laibsch> I switched to lightdm from gdm now, but no change.  lightdm extends beyond the bottom of my screen so might not be a good choice.  Font problem is unchanged for all users.
[12:28] <zhufeng> hello
[12:28] <jrib> Laibsch: did you see what I said to you?
[12:29] <balveda> Question: I can press multimedia keys on laptop to increase volume, on/off wifi etc. It works okay, but howto modify? Which package or system implements that plz - coz I'd like to add/modify that default behavior. Thx.
[12:29] <KeithBob> Hi Pope
[12:29] <KeithBob> Hi Pope
[12:29] <KeithBob> Hi Pope
[12:29] <KeithBob> Hi Pope
[12:29] <KeithBob> Hi Pope
[12:29] <KeithBob> Hi Pope
[12:29] <FloodBot1> KeithBob: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:30] <Touhou11> !ot | FloodBot1
[12:30] <ikonia> Touhou11: please don't be silly
[12:30] <zhufeng> seems that multimedia keys are powered by kernel driver
[12:30] <Laibsch> jrib: about "the symlink"?  Well, question is what symlink?
[12:31] <pope_benadicte> i touch children
[12:31] <pope_benadicte> i touch children
[12:31] <pope_benadicte> i touch children
[12:31] <FloodBot1> pope_benadicte: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:31] <Laibsch> I already did a dpkg-reconfigure of language-selector-common
[12:32] <jrib> Laibsch: well I'd start by using the gui to change the user's font settings and then see how the system-wide settings differ
[12:32] <K350> howto grab the last character in a line? (bash)
[12:32] <zhufeng> I found a very strange problem about the multimedia keys, a Acer Aspire 4750G laptop, Fn+arrow keys don't function well, I have to edit /etc/default/grub to modify the kernel_cmd to make it work
[12:32] <jrib> K350: try #bash
[12:33] <brandon420> how do you join a channel named "*" on irc?
[12:33] <K350> Jikai: ok, thx :)
[12:33] <Laibsch> jrib: you keep saying "THE symlink", "THE gui" without saying which.
[12:33] <balveda> zhufeng: and which userland pkg uses the kernel driver for the multimedia keys? Its not all just  kernel functionality, it has to be userland too...
[12:34] <jrib> Laibsch: I never said "the symlink".  I don't know what the default gui application is for editing appearances.  Did you look for it in your menus?
[12:35] <Laibsch> (12:42:45) jrib: Laibsch: /etc/fonts/conf.d/ has symlinks that affect fonts.  Since they are just symlinks, you simply delete the symlink to disable a setting.  There's also some font settings in your lightdm theme which may be carrying over (see /etc/lightdm/*)
[12:35] <jrib> Laibsch: I know what I said... what's your question?
[12:36] <Laibsch> Yes, I checked all menus I could find, but since I only upgraded to precise now I am not familiar with unity
[12:36] <jrib> Laibsch: there's some gear icon I think by default in the unity bar that has the system settings.  Or just try "settings" in dash
[12:36] <Laibsch> I quoted you because you claimed you never said "the symlink", but see above
[12:36] <jrib> Laibsch: you're taking that out of context.
[12:37] <jrib> Laibsch: there are several symlinks, each corresponding to particular settings.  If you want to disable a particular setting you delete the corresponding symlink
[12:37] <Laibsch> I was explaining to you "in context" that "the symlink" and "the GUI" is too vague for me.
[12:37] <BluesKaj> BBL
[12:38] <Laibsch> well, then the question obviously is how to find the corresponding symlink.
[12:38] <jrib> Laibsch: ok, by "the symlink" I mean "the symlink that corresponds to the setting you want to turn off"
[12:38] <Laibsch> I believe something deviates here from a default install (where things are obviously OK).  But I don't know how to find that.
[12:39] <jrib> Laibsch: to find the setting you want to turn off, I advise editing the user's settings with the gui tool.  Have you created a new user by the way and verified the settings still look strange to you?
[12:39] <Prdel> hello
[12:39] <Laibsch> yes, I created a new user. but when I log in it's XFCE (which is also installed).  lightdm does not seem to allow me to change the WM.
[12:40] <Laibsch> I had chosen Unity2D for the main user when I was still using gdm and that setting stuck.
[12:40] <Laibsch> But I did try with two other little-used accounts and they have the same strange fonts.
[12:40] <jrib> Laibsch: what happens when you click the circular icon next to the username for the new user?
[12:40] <Laibsch> let me try, thank you
[12:41] <Laibsch> no circular icon next to the username, I wonder if this is lightdm after all
[12:42] <jrib> Laibsch: yes, check :)
[12:42] <Laibsch> I'll use gdm for now and check
[12:43] <Laibsch> brb
[12:44] <pytajacy> Is possible to restore default hotkeys in ubuntu? (unity+metacity)
[12:44] <pytajacy> I means restoring window cycling by alt+tab
[12:45] <pytajacy> unfortunally I'm not able to find any clues in documentation or google
[12:46] <pytajacy> I simple way to cycle windows by alt+tab nothing more ;)
[12:51] <infz_> error: Failed to connect socket to '/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': No such file or directory
[12:51] <aaron_> Whats the command to remount a drive as read write, My partition is /dev/hda1
[12:52] <infz_> can anyone help me with libvirt? :)
[12:52] <talentedunicorn> infz_: what's the problem?
[12:52] <rednecktek> morning everyone
[12:53] <s3m73x> hello mates
[12:53] <infz_> talentedunicorn, virsh -c qemu:///system gives me error: Failed to connect socket to '/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': No such file or directory
[12:53] <chah_ayu> chat with me :)
[12:53] <talentedunicorn> infz_: when you ls to that dir is the file there??
[12:53] <xbskid> Does Ubuntu automatically turn your display off after a set amount of time?
[12:53] <xbskid> I can't find anything in the System Settings like that.
[12:54] <infz_> talentedunicorn yes
[12:54] <infz_> talentedunicorn root:libvirt ownership
[12:54] <talentedunicorn> infz_: that's odd
[12:56] <toddnjamie> I need help.
[12:56] <infz_> talentedunicorn idd :)
[12:56] <talentedunicorn> infz_: :P this is a long shot but try renaming the file and run the command again and see what happens
[12:56] <toddnjamie> I have bought a printer and I can't install it on my ubuntu, and none of the directions I've found on the internet have helped me any.. can any of you help me?
[12:57] <profiler1982> is iz possible to install unity 2d on 12.10
[12:57] <infz_> talentedunicorn error: Cannot recv data: Connection reset by peer
[12:57] <infz_> error: failed to connect to the hypervisor
[12:58] <Sach> Using ubuntu 12.04 with gnome classic. I need to click on my weather applet to view weather details. I used to be able to mouseover to get this info. How do I get that back?
[12:58] <rednecktek> toddnjamie, what is the printer make and model?
[12:58] <talentedunicorn> infz_: ls to /var/run/libvirt/ and check if there was another file created to replace the one you renamed
[12:59] <andybrine> Hello everyone
[12:59] <infz_> talentedunicorn yes, new one created
[12:59] <toddnjamie> It is a canon pixma mg2120
[12:59] <mattyh88> hey, i'm trying to install the latest xubuntu on my computer. I tried installing it with usb stick at first .. but that didn't work .. it kept loading after choosing the language (for more than 90 minutes) So I tried burning the img on a dvd and installing it that way .. but that just did the same thing .. kept showing the loading icon after choosing the language (the computer didn't freeze). Why could this be? Whenever I click "quit install"
[12:59] <andybrine> does anyone here know how to setup record my desktop
[12:59] <talentedunicorn> infz_: permissions??
[12:59] <toddnjamie> My older version of ubuntu always detected everything, and it all ran like plug and play. But this one won't detect it at all.
[12:59] <andybrine> everytime i record, the video is very quick and out sync with the audio
[12:59] <infz_> talentedunicorn, same
[13:00] <talentedunicorn> try running the command again
[13:00] <infz_> talentedunicorn, error: Cannot recv data: Connection reset by peer
[13:00] <rednecktek> toddnjamie, check this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2066330
[13:02] <toddnjamie> rednecktek, I've already tried that. I even decided to risk my computer's life and follow directions to do it via the terminal lol. Nothing is working. I'll admit, I'm no techno genius.
[13:02] <toddnjamie> rednecktek, maybe I'm missing some key points that I should know how to do, but everytime I try anything it basically runs me in circles.
[13:03] <lapion> Where can I discuss problems with recent hardware without pae ?
[13:04] <lapion> I have a lot of Pentium M laptops all of which have no PAE extension
[13:05] <toddnjamie> rednecktek, in looking at these drivers, do I need the one that says rpm packagearchive, or debian packagearchive?
[13:06] <lapion> Intel made many pentium M cpus (production 2003-2008 ) of which many had either had pae disabled or had no pae.
[13:06] <rednecktek> toddnjamie, you're using Ubunut, right? Always the deb file
[13:06] <toddnjamie> Yes, ubuntu. Thank you
[13:06] <DJones> lapion: You can use #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic if its general discussion rather than a specific support question
[13:06] <toddnjamie> Since it's a multifunctional, does that mean I'll have to install drivers for both printer AND scanner?
[13:07] <OerHeks> lapion,  there is a non-pea build iso > http://people.canonical.com/~diwic/12.04-nonpae/
[13:07] <lapion> well I have a nice pentium M tablet on which I cannot install quantal because it hase no pae
[13:07] <OerHeks> 12.04 only
[13:08] <rednecktek> toddnjamie, according to the forum page I sent you, yes.
[13:08] <toddnjamie> Ok. Well I just downloaded it, and it's a tar.gz file, which I have no idea how to install and unzip and all that...lord, maybe I need to just hire someone to come out and install this...:(
[13:09] <rednecktek> follow the directions in post # 6
[13:10] <rednecktek> cd into the directory you downloaded it in (Downloads usually)
[13:11] <rednecktek> toddnjamie, the steps look really clear. Start with getting printing working and tehn worry about the scanner
[13:12] <rednecktek> I really should drink more coffee before typing
[13:13] <toddnjamie> Maybe I am doing something wrong. I don't even see steps to take, other than to download it. Nevermind, I'll figure it out. Thank you though :) I appreciate your help.
[13:13] <rednecktek> toddnjamie, can you open a terminal?
[13:14] <toddnjamie> Yes, I know how to do that.
[13:15] <rednecktek> ok, do that and lets work through it
[13:15] <toddnjamie> It's open.
[13:15] <andybrine> does anyone here use recordmydesktop?
[13:16] <rednecktek> toddnjamie,  type the following: ls Downloads
[13:16] <toddnjamie> ok, then what?
[13:16] <rednecktek> toddnjamie, does it list a file named cnijfilter-mg2100series-3.60-1-deb.tar.gz
[13:16] <toddnjamie> Yes it does
[13:16] <rednecktek> type: cd Downloads
[13:17] <toddnjamie> ok I did.
[13:17] <rednecktek> toddnjamie, you can even copy and paste what I send. type: cnijfilter-mg2100series-3.60-1-deb.tar.gz
[13:17] <rednecktek> sorry
[13:17] <rednecktek> type: tar -zxvf cnijfilter-mg2100series-3.60-1-deb.tar.gz
[13:17] <toddnjamie> It says command not found.
[13:18] <rednecktek> yeah, I fat-fingered
[13:19] <toddnjamie> lol. let me try again lol
[13:19] <toddnjamie> Ok, I did.
[13:19] <toddnjamie> It didn't say command not found. IT said a bunch of other stuff.
[13:19] <rednecktek> did you type: tar -zxvf cnijfilter-mg2100series-3.60-1-deb.tar.gz
[13:19] <toddnjamie> Yes.
[13:21] <rednecktek> good
[13:21] <rednecktek> almost there. type: cd cnijfilter-mg2100series-3.60-1-deb
[13:21] <pauser> hello, did someone already install steam beta ?
[13:21] <toddnjamie> It just repeated what I wrote with a $ after it.
[13:22] <rednecktek> yup. now type: ./install.sh
[13:22] <rednecktek> and follow the instructions.
[13:22] <toddnjamie> oh wow.....
[13:23] <toddnjamie> I'm sorry rednecktek, I still don't see any instructions. I'm sorry...I don't mean to be such an idiot...
[13:24] <rednecktek> toddnjamie, not an idiot, just inexperienced. hang on and let me see what it does
[13:24] <JackyCheng> hi
[13:24] <BluesKaj> readme
[13:24] <toddnjamie> Well, I feel like an idiot. lol. I'm not good with stuff like this.
[13:25] <rednecktek> toddnjamie,  It should have asked you for you password to begin installing and then prompted you to turn on the printer
[13:25] <toddnjamie> It asked me for my password, did not prompt me to turn on printer.
[13:26] <rednecktek> toddnjamie, do you see a line that says "#  Register Printer"
[13:27] <toddnjamie> nowhere.
[13:27] <Sach> Using gnome class ic in ubuntu 12.10.  How do I customize "Indicator Applet Complete
[13:27] <rednecktek> what is the last line in the terminal
[13:28] <toddnjamie> The last line says toddnjamie@toddnjamie-Satellite-P105:~/Downloads/cnijfilter-mg2100series-3.60-1-deb$
[13:28] <KM0201> Sach: if you're using gnome-classic   you probably need to do so in gconf-editor
[13:28] <KM0201> but i'm not 100% sure
[13:29] <ucenik29> yo
[13:29] <ucenik29> hi
[13:29] <KM0201> lol
[13:29] <rednecktek> toddnjamie, line before that?
[13:30] <toddnjamie> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[13:31] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: is your printer on?
[13:31] <toddnjamie> Yes it is.
[13:31] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: Is it directly connected to your pc?
[13:32] <toddnjamie> Yes, via usb.
[13:32] <backbox> mnn
[13:33] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: well, we forgot to turn it off before we started. it may be installed and ready. do you know how to check?
[13:33] <toddnjamie> No. But the printer wasn't on. I just turned it on after you said I should have been prompted to do so..
[13:34] <toddnjamie> The only way I know how to check is to go into my printer settings and print test page.
[13:34] <desu> is it alright to ask a gnome specific question on here?
[13:34] <dyd> guys why the files present in the folder  /etc/udev/rules.d/ have names like "70-persistent...etc"? what stands that 70 for? i am creating a custom rule that executes a script everytime an usb pen is plugged in, and i think i have to create a file name 90-local.rules; again, what stands that 90 for?
[13:34] <toddnjamie> And that says there are no printers configured.
[13:35] <toddnjamie> I have to run my son to school, shouldn't take me more than 15 minutes. Will you still be here then?
[13:35] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: type: lpstat -p -d
[13:36] <toddnjamie> it said no system default destination
[13:36] <horte> Hi guys, I'm setting up a new Ubuntu server and want to increase the limit for open files. Is there any recommendations regarding this? E.g. a recommended number?
[13:36] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: if I'm not, poweroff the printer and run the install command again.
[13:36] <toddnjamie> ok, thank you.
[13:37] <dhyll> List *ubuntu*
[13:37] <Pumpkin-_> dyd: there is a readme file in that directory you want to read. Its about the order the rules are executed in.
[13:41] <daviddoria> I have had a single user account on this system and it has been working for many months. Today I added a new user, and when I login as that user, it is not connecting to the network. When I look in Network Interfaces, the only interface is 'lo', where on the working account there is also eth0. I have even set the new user to be an administrator but the problem persists. Any ideas on how to get the network/internet to work with this n
[13:41] <daviddoria> ew user?
[13:41] <lotus2015> /usr/local/lib/libreadline.so.6: undefined symbol: UP
[13:41] <lotus2015> I tried to install ruby 1.8.6 with rvm
[13:42] <lotus2015> But the irb just doesn't work with readline
[13:43] <lotus2015> When I issued require 'readline' in irb, it prompt '/usr/local/lib/libreadline.so.6: undefined symbol: U'
[13:44] <dyd> Pumpkin-_, thanks
[13:46] <wopples> hey can someone help me ?
[13:46] <wopples> pleased
[13:46] <wopples> please*
[13:46] <SwedeMike> !ask | wopples
[13:46] <bhavesh> I am compressing my vids to .7z by ubuntu's archive manager and I want to add password to the compressed file
[13:47] <wopples> I am having trouble installing WoW on my ubuntu OS i am brand new to the ubuntu os
[13:47] <bhavesh> but the place where you add password is grey
[13:47] <bhavesh> what should I do?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> !WOW | wopples
[13:48] <lollko> experience with ceph?
[13:49] <wopples> ok thankyou i will check it out now :)
[13:50] <szal> lollko: whole sentences?
[13:50] <bhavesh> so you cannot add a password to .7z file
[13:50] <Sach> Using gnome classic in ubuntu 12.10.  How do I customize "Indicator Applet Complete"?
[13:51] <wopples> hmm when it asks for the 2nd disk, i open my tray put the 2nd disk in then it wotn continue, any suggestions ?
[13:52] <IHAXEX1337> does anyone happen to know the best irc client for linux/ubuntu
[13:52] <Pici> !best | IHAXEX1337
[13:53] <BaldFat> Yes best IRC client = kvirc (gui) or WeeChat for commandline!
[13:53] <wopples> hmm when it asks for the 2nd disk, i open my tray put the 2nd disk in then it wotn continue, any suggestions ?
[13:53] <Pici> wopples: I'd ask in #winehq
[13:53] <wopples> ok
[13:53] <Pici> wopples: or take a look at WoW's entry on the appdb
[13:53] <the_dark_knight> IHAXEX1337: irssi
[13:53] <wopples> thankd
[13:53] <wopples> thanks
[13:53] <IHAXEX1337> lolz im on this at my school
[13:53] <vivid> wopples, thats a wine issue, but what you want to do is copy the contents of all the disks to a single directory on the hard drive and then run the installation
[13:53] <IHAXEX1337> so just to clarify there is NO simply best irc client
[13:54] <vivid> wopples, alternatively, you can download the web installer
[13:54] <BaldFat> the_dark_knight: weechat > irssi :)
[13:54] <BaldFat> So just to clarify ther are opinions on what is the best client though for my own use
[13:56] <IHAXEX1337> ok actually let me completly clarify my question which irc client has the most options and uses
[13:57] <OpenSorce> Anybody here play vegastrike?
[13:57] <IHAXEX1337> never heard of vegastrike what is it
[13:57] <snowshine> i have a question
[13:57] <OpenSorce> Ask it
[13:58] <snowshine> why my ubuntu uesing memory more and more.
[13:58] <IHAXEX1337> RAM or hardisk
[13:58] <snowshine> i have 6G memory ,but just 200M free
[13:58] <snowshine> RAM
[13:58] <OpenSorce> IHAXEX1337, your name is funny
[13:58] <babilen> snowshine: Could you show us your "free -m" output on a pastebin please?
[13:58] <snowshine> OK
[13:59] <snowshine> Mem:       5963812    5745256     218556          0    1225660    2376184
[13:59] <snowshine>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[13:59] <snowshine> Mem:       5963812    5745256     218556          0    1225660    2376184
[13:59] <snowshine> -/+ buffers/cache:    2143412    3820400
[13:59] <snowshine> Swap:      2928636       3460    2925176
[13:59] <fego> snowshine: SEE http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[14:00] <IHAXEX1337> are you on a dual boot with ubuntu and another OS like windows???
[14:00] <babilen> snowshine: *On a pastebin* such as http://paste.debian.net -- But too late now. As you can see you have around 3820400M of free RAM. The rest is used to cache/buffer files and data. fego gave you a link that explains this in detail.
[14:01] <snowshine> i have ubuntu and win8
[14:01] <babilen> snowshine: Keep in mind that free RAM is, unlike information, *bad* . You have that RAM and you want to use it. The Linux kernel utilises free memory to speed up access to files on the harddisk. If a program needs that memory it will be cleared and can be used by the program in question.
[14:01] <IHAXEX1337> interesting (_) (-) (=]
[14:01] <snowshine> real OS, not install on VM
[14:01] <Desu> any help with AMD Radeon 4000M series and quantal?
[14:01] <OerHeks> OpenSorce, what is your real question ?
[14:02] <OpenSorce> OerHeks, I already asked it...
[14:02] <Evil_Eric> Desu, is it a hybrid
[14:02] <Desu> hybrid?
[14:02] <Evil_Eric> switchable and/intel
[14:02] <Evil_Eric> amd
[14:02] <snowshine> why that?
[14:03] <Desu> Not as far as I'm aware.
[14:03] <OerHeks> OpenSorce, this is a support channel, not for polls like Anybody here play vegastrike?
[14:03] <Evil_Eric> if its a switchable/hybrid graphics i got the solution if not im sory but i cant help
[14:03] <IHAXEX1337> i have a triple boot at home of pinguy os 12 and windows 7, and mac osx mountain lion ( hackintosh) thats the only reason i asked snowshine
[14:03] <OpenSorce> OerHeks, I am well aware of the nature of this channel, thank you
[14:04] <hexy> Hey, can anyone help me? I simply updated ubuntu from the update pop up and I now have lost my graphics driver.
[14:04] <hexy> What do I do?
[14:04] <Desu> Evil_Eric, well what do you suggest?
[14:04] <toddnjamie> rednecktek, I'm back.
[14:04] <Evil_Eric> i sujest you stay at 112.04 and not upgrade to 12.10 yet
[14:04] <OpenSorce> OerHeks, had anyone said that they played the game I would have asked further questions, obviously. As they did not I didn't.
[14:04] <toddnjamie> So I need to start the process over? Printer on, or off?
[14:05] <snowshine> my ubuntu is 12.10
[14:05] <Desu> Well, too late on that one...
[14:05] <Evil_Eric> ahhh
[14:05] <Evil_Eric> well lets see what i can dig up to help you desu
[14:05] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: don't have to start over. Printer OFF. Is the terminal still open
[14:05] <Desu> Appreciate it
[14:05] <Evil_Eric> what was the model
[14:06] <Evil_Eric> amd
[14:06] <Evil_Eric> 4xxx
[14:06] <toddnjamie> Yes, the terminal is open.
[14:06] <OpenSorce> hexy, were you using a non-free driver before the update?
[14:06] <Desu> AMD 4xxxM (notebook card)
[14:06] <IHAXEX1337> im not what anyone with any intelligence would suggest as a "hacker" but someone ignorant in computer's would think that i am a "hacker" as my nickname suggests
[14:06] <hexy> OpenSorce: I didn't install any driver manually, it was all installed with the OS.
[14:07] <OpenSorce> hexy, okay... so when you say the driver is "gone" what do you mean?
[14:07] <IHAXEX1337> if someone needed help with a graphics driver you could always find it online if you happen to know what driver it is called
[14:08] <OpenSorce> IHAXEX1337, planning to point him there shortly :-)
[14:08] <IHAXEX1337> coolz
[14:08] <Desu> Evil_Eric, looks like any progress will have to stop here for now...the battery just died and I don't have the charger on me. Thanks for trying though :)
[14:08] <IHAXEX1337> the only thing i am not skilled in on computers is probably just irc stuff
[14:09] <Evil_Eric> i just got the solution
[14:09] <hexy> OpenSorce: I mean, I click Details inside system settings and go to Graphics, It says Driver: Unknown
[14:09] <hexy> And Obviously I noticed it because the resolution is huge now.
[14:09] <Desu> Oh? could you tell me and I'll try it when I get the charger?
[14:09] <OpenSorce> IHAXEX1337, irc is ancient code by today's standards. Only the old timers like myself remember working with it I think :-)
[14:09] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: still there?
[14:09] <Evil_Eric> check your pm
[14:10] <toddnjamie> Yes I'm here. The terminal is open.]
[14:10] <snowshine> cool
[14:10] <OpenSorce> hexy, okay... do you know what type of graphics card you have?
[14:10] <snowshine> i use the XChat
[14:10] <Evil_Eric> desu check your pm
[14:10] <IHAXEX1337> i like using irc thou i dont like all of the new social networking stuff okay well g2g seeya all later ill come online on my phone later lolz
[14:10] <jquip> heys you guys... i have a problem... a 16gb pen drive on which i put ubuntu via usb-creator- ... that thing aint even budging... tried it twice... same result.. tried to mount base image and it works fine... what's would be the problem??
[14:10] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: type: ./install.sh
[14:10] <hexy> OpenSorce: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[14:11] <hexy> OpenSorce: That's from lspci
[14:11] <toddnjamie> It's working again.
[14:11] <OpenSorce> hexy, you're ahead of the game knowing how to use lspci :-) gimme a sec let's see if I can help you...
[14:11] <toddnjamie> Ended with same as before.
[14:12] <hexy> OpenSorce: Thanks. =]
[14:12] <snowshine> when i install AMD HD8470 graphic card driver on ubuntu 12.10 ,the ubuntu collapsed.
[14:12] <snowshine> sorry ,AMD HD 5470
[14:12] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: type: lpstat -p -d
[14:12] <Desu> Evil_Eric, mind assisting me with checking PMs on irssi? I seem to be failing all over myself.
[14:13] <Sach> Using gnome classic in ubuntu 12.10.  How do I customize "Indicator Applet Complete"?
[14:13] <Evil_Eric> oh
[14:13] <toddnjamie> "no system default destination"
[14:13] <Evil_Eric> i have no clue how in irssi
[14:13] <bdi> It seems that whenever a usb drive has been inside the evil stomach of a mac, i have problems reading it on my ubuntu computer. Does mac do something special to usb sticks?
[14:13] <KacoMobile> % th
[14:14] <toddnjamie> I'm sorry. It says lpstat: no destinations added. no system default destination
[14:14] <jquip> ermm... i have a problem... a 16gb pen drive on which i put ubuntu via usb-creator- ... that thing aint even budging... tried it twice... same result.. tried to mount base image and it works fine... what's would be the problem??
[14:14] <OpenSorce> hexy, I would recommend reinstalling your graphic driver... I'm looking to find the package name for your card now
[14:14] <jquip> the system doesn't even boot from it'
[14:14] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: ok, let me think about it a minute
[14:14] <OpenSorce> hexy, I use nvidia and have to do it after just about every update
[14:15] <toddnjamie> ok thank you. I'm sorry to be putting you through so much trouble. I'm really computer illterate at times.
[14:15] <hexy> OpenSorce: That's seems like such a pain.
[14:15] <hexy> OpenSorce: The thing is, my graphics is onboard.
[14:15] <volga629> Hello Everyone, On ubuntu 12.04 LTS vmware trouble with promisc mode, it recreate each time /dev/vmnet* after reboot, I tried modify init.d script, but didn't help
[14:15] <toddnjamie> I love ubuntu, and it's sooo user friendly until it comes to something like this, then it's only user friendly if the user knows what he/she's doing..lol
[14:15] <jquip> oh well... Since every buddy is doing their thing.. I guess I'll... I'll ... see myself out..
[14:15] <volga629> any help thank you
[14:16] <hexy> OpenSorce: apt-cache search driver | grep -i intel       Would any of those that come up there help me?
[14:16] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: I can attest that Windows is no better. :p
[14:16] <toddnjamie> I HATE windows...not to sound so dramatic, but I absolutely hate windows.
[14:16] <OpenSorce> hexy, yeah and in my experience Ubuntu picks up quickly on Intel video and uses the right driver... not heard of this happening with Intel before
[14:17] <toddnjamie> Windows is worse. Why do you think I use Ubuntu? I love it, and I can even maneuver it lol
[14:17] <toddnjamie> (most of the time)
[14:17] <OpenSorce> hexy, I would search online for the right driver package for your card and apt-get install it
[14:18] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: I really need to see everything in the terminal from the install.sh to the end. Can you paste it at http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:18] <OpenSorce> hexy, does lsmod show you have a video driver loaded?
[14:18] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: then give me the url
[14:19] <toddnjamie> Yes, I will do my best lol.
[14:19] <hexy> OpenSorce: I was just going to use it this second, haha
[14:19] <hexy> Hold on, let me see...
[14:19] <OpenSorce> hexy, from what I can see it looks like it should be using the i915 module but I could be wrong
[14:20] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1370142/
[14:20] <toddnjamie> See if I did that right.
[14:20] <hexy> OpenSorce: Yes, video is using i915
[14:21] <OpenSorce> hexy, odd... have you taken a look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[14:21] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: type: sudo apt-get -f install
[14:22] <hexy> OpenSorce: Nope, will try now. What am I looking for exactly?
[14:22] <toddnjamie> ok...
[14:22] <OpenSorce> hexy, look for the line stating which video driver to use
[14:23] <toddnjamie> It responded with, "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded
[14:23] <OpenSorce> hexy, have you rebooted since the update?
[14:23] <hexy> 5 times
[14:23] <OpenSorce> hexy, lol gotcha
[14:24] <OpenSorce> hexy, a simple cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep driver would probably tell you what you need to know
[14:24] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: you were missing a dependency. let's try the install again: ./install.sh
[14:25] <toddnjamie> oh ok. It's running again.
[14:25] <toddnjamie> ok.
[14:25] <hexy> OpenSorce: Weird, I don't have xorg.conf but I do have xorg.conf.failsafe
[14:26] <toddnjamie> Do I need to do the lpstat thing again now? lol
[14:26] <hexy> OpenSorce: And that's what I have there http://pastebin.com/R8kxR58B
[14:27] <rednecktek> try it and see if it lists a printer
[14:27] <toddnjamie> Nope.
[14:28] <OpenSorce> hexy, what's the date on the failsafe?
[14:28] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: wife is calling me to eat. let me think and I'll be back
[14:28] <toddnjamie> ok, thank you
[14:28] <hexy> OpenSorce: Date modified?
[14:28] <Lorem-Ipsum> Hiah. I've got to upgrade a laptop that's running 11.10. Are there any known problems with upgradeing to 12.04 then to 12.10 with do-release-upgrade ?
[14:29] <Guest94293> hey any one here
[14:29] <Guest94293> hello to all
[14:29] <OpenSorce> hexy, nevermind. I thought maybe the update renamed it. It's just set to use the Frame Buffer driver though
[14:30] <OpenSorce> hexy, I'm sorry but I have to run to the store, I'll be back soon. Maybe someone else in the channel can help you though :-(
[14:31] <cloudrf> is this help chat?
[14:31] <hexy> OpenSorce: It's the 3rd time I'm asking in this channel, no one knows how to fix it.
[14:31] <cloudrf> or is it real chat?
[14:31] <hexy> OpenSorce: I'll try to figure something out, thanks though.
[14:31] <loke> cloudrf: what's the difference?
[14:31] <gassy> hexy what ur problem ?
[14:31] <gassy> whats's
[14:31] <gassy> *
[14:31] <cloudrf> wanted to shoot the breeze but didnt wanna get yelled at
[14:32] <hexy> gassy: Driver is gone after update.
[14:32] <hexy> Graphics
[14:32] <gassy> graphics ?
[14:32] <hexy> Yes
[14:33] <gassy> did you which company
[14:33] <hexy> gassy: What?
[14:34] <gassy> did you check the website of company?
[14:34] <philinux> cloudrf: this is just a support chat channel. try #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntuforums
[14:35] <cloudrf> i figured someone was gunna giveme that
[14:35] <cloudrf> off topic is a dead channel
[14:35] <philinux> cloudrf: not visited for a while there. But #ubuntuforums is quite busy
[14:36] <philinux> and it's just a chat chennel
[14:36] <g_seek> Hello all. :) Can anybody help me with a small bash script - can I concatenate 2 simple .txt files with a bash script? Something like "/path/to/file1.txt" + "/path/to/file2.txt" > "stdout.txt"
[14:36] <wcchandler> is it possible to run spice on a desktop and connect to it like vnc/nx?
[14:36] <cloudrf> need a channel for smart likeminded individuals
[14:37] <cloudrf> is canonical a corperation?
[14:37] <fego> g_seek: you can use the cat command
[14:37] <hexy> gassy: I did, they linked me here http://intellinuxgraphics.org
[14:37] <llutz> g_seek: cat /path/to/file1.txt /path/to/file2.txt >> "stdout.txt"
[14:37] <g_seek> yes, cat works, will try
[14:37] <fego> g_seek: cat file1 file2 > combined
[14:38] <dyd> i want to run a script when any usb device is plugged in. I added a file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ named 90-local.rules that contains SUBSYSTEM=="usb", RUN+="/usr/local/bin/usbhook". I restarted udev, but if i plug any usb pen nothing happens. Why?
[14:38] <gyre008> Im trying to remove postgres from my server but apt-get remove --purge doesnt remove postgres' init script ?
[14:38] <gyre008> anyone idea why ?
[14:38] <gassy> so did you select your graphics driver and install it?
[14:39] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: please pastebin the output of the last install
[14:39] <philinux> cloudrf: it's a private company
[14:39] <hexy> gassy: The problem is... It was perfectly fine before the update, driver was installed with the OS. So why do I have to install the driver manually now?
[14:39] <Pici> !canonical | cloudrf
[14:42] <g_seek> It works great! Thank you very much fego and llutz! :D Have a great day
[14:42] <TomyLobo> hi
[14:42] <TomyLobo> is there something like backports for ubuntu?
[14:42] <fego> g_seek: no problem :)
[14:42] <dr_willis> !backports
[14:42] <TomyLobo> i'm on 12.04/precise and want g++-4.7
[14:42] <gassy> is the old driver version compatible with the updated ubuntu if not it requires a manual update i guess
[14:43] <nixfreak> I am having issues trying to automount a cifs remote drive
[14:43] <nixfreak> so I have mounted it successfully and added to fstab and use mount -a and everything works great
[14:43] <hexy> gassy: I didn't update the distro, just a simple update.
[14:43] <nixfreak> but when i reboot the system I still have to mount -a
[14:44] <dr_willis> nixfreak:  whats your fstab entry for the share?
[14:44] <hexy> But I assume you are correct, mind helping me installing the driver, I'm not too familiar with installing drivers on linux.
[14:45] <gassy> wait till any operator comes online they might have a solution
[14:45] <nixfreak>   ./ //192,168.12.4/share/ /share  username=user,password=password
[14:45] <nixfreak> sorry for the comma but that is what I have
[14:45] <TomyLobo> what kind of suffix do file names in /etc/apt/preferences.d need to have, if any?
[14:46] <nixfreak> I tried nowait and _netdev as options also dr_willis
[14:46] <dr_willis> nixfreak:  hmm.. examples i find online have more 'fields' in them..    //192.168.44.100/share   /path_to/mount   cifs   guest,_netdev   0 0
[14:47] <nixfreak> yeah guest does not work
[14:47] <dr_willis> nixfreak:  its possible the server is just slow so the mounting is timing out.
[14:47] <mag]> sambaaaa ewww
[14:47] <hexy> gassy: I don't know any operators..
[14:47] <dr_willis> You could put a command in /etc/rc.local to mount the share.  but thats a bit of a dirty work around
[14:47] <dmd> Is there a way to monitor gconf/dconf for key/value changes so I can make a change in the GUI and then record that change so I can make the same change using gconftool?
[14:47] <KM0201> mag]: ?
[14:48] <gassy> hexy wait till any one o em comes
[14:48] <gassy> of*
[14:48] <nixfreak> dr_willis I agree , but how can I slow the mount down ?
[14:48] <dr_willis> nixfreak:  thats what  the _netdev option is supposed to do
[14:49] <hexy> gassy: And how would I know if any of them are online?
[14:49] <dr_willis> nixfreak:  from what im googling. ;)
[14:49] <TomyLobo> dr_willis, what do i do if i can't find g++ 4.7 there? it is present in quantal
[14:50] <gassy> you on xchat right ..operators have a green dot before their names
[14:50] <dr_willis> TomyLobo:  ppa, or source i guess..
[14:50] <gassy> and did you google for the solution
[14:50] <gassy> ?
[14:50] <hexy> gassy: I did google for a solution, and no I'm not on xchat, though it's nice you assume everyone here is on xchat haha
[14:50] <nixfreak> dr_willis _netdev is depreciated
[14:51] <dr_willis> nixfreak:  just googling examples. ;)
[14:51] <nixfreak> of course
[14:51] <gassy> ok if you are on any text based irc client it will be a @
[14:51] <hexy> gassy: And I didn't find a solution since I don't really know how to word my problem correctly.
[14:51] <nixfreak> Ubuntu just has a lot of ways to mount something
[14:51] <Pici> gassy: people don't op-up unless theres an issue that needs attention.  Also, they aren't all-knowing.
[14:52] <hexy> Okay, if I'm seeing this correctly, I see FloodBot1 2 and 3 online.
[14:52] <hexy> gassy:
[14:52] <gassy> "graphics driver lost after  ubuntu update"
[14:52] <gassy> somthing like that
[14:52] <hexy> gassy: Exactly what I've tried.
[14:52] <hexy> And nothing.
[14:53] <Pici> !floodbots
[14:53] <hexy> gassy: They all help the ones who have installed their drivers manually, but don't help the automatically installed ones, which is my case.
[14:53] <dr_willis> nixfreak:  notice some examples of mounting cifs that use the 'auto' option also.. perhaps the default for them is noauto (that would be weird)
[14:56] <nixfreak> dr_willis oh "the default is noauto" fstab says that auto is default hmm
[14:56] <outofhand> hi, can someone please help me . i been looking all over to get my Screen to stay on and not turn dark after 10 sec- i went to (brightness and Lock) and changes everything off.... and still the screen turn black . and then i tried "Caffeine" and disabled the screen saver . please help
[14:56] <jgspratt> I moved a server onto my lan and it took over people's devices that asked for a dhcp lease.  I killed dhcpd, but now I wawnt to chkconfig it off.  How can I do that in ubuntu?
[14:56] <jgspratt> I could not find a init.d file that started it
[14:56] <dr_willis> nixfreak:  i cant find anything that says the default is no auto.. i just saw a bunch of examples that included auto...
[14:56] <jgspratt> I could not find an rc.d file that started it.
[14:56] <dr_willis> nixfreak:  so that may not be it.
[14:57] <TomyLobo> is it advisable to install g++ 4.7 from quantal into precise?
[14:57] <jgspratt> It was a child of init though.
[14:57] <jgspratt> There must be some way to make it not start up, even on ubuntu, right?
[14:57] <dr_willis> TomyLobo:  you dont want to mix packages from differnt releases
[14:57] <TomyLobo> same degree of difficulties as squeeze/wheezy?
[14:57] <nixfreak> lol this is frustrating
[14:58] <nixfreak> the only way its working right now is S99
[14:58] <nixfreak> its a nasty hack
[14:58] <jgspratt> I did a `find /etc/ -name *dhcpd*` and it found these: /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf /etc/apparmor.d/cache/usr.sbin.dhcpd /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.dhcpd /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.dhcpd
[14:58] <jgspratt> I want to turn off dhcpd so it doesn't start next time.
[14:58] <outofhand> ?
[14:59] <jgspratt> Is there a way to do that in ubuntu somehow?
[14:59] <jgspratt> If so, how can it be done perminantly?
[14:59] <TomyLobo> dr_willis, which problems would arise?
[14:59] <outofhand> can anyone suggest something ?
[15:00] <dr_willis> if its handled by upstart jgspratt  it should have an /etc/init/servicename.conf  you could rename
[15:00] <jgspratt> outofhand: have you tried unplugging it?  does a "disconnected cable" thing appear?
[15:00] <dr_willis> TomyLobo:  it could start pulling in other packages that will break the system
[15:01] <jgspratt> dr_willis: I am sorry, there is no /etc/init/dhcpd.conf file.
[15:01] <jgspratt> dr_willis: do you know if maybe it is part of networking?
[15:01] <jgspratt> and if so, how to disable dhcpd without disabling networking?
[15:01] <outofhand>  jgspratt : yes i have unpluged - its the screen going to sleep mode
[15:01] <jgspratt> Oh, I see.
[15:02] <Meway> If I have a terminal running program and can't see it. How would I be able to see it by using another terminal? (via ssh) thats why i ask this.
[15:02] <TomyLobo> dr_willis, like?
[15:02] <loke> Meway: You should start it under screen
[15:02] <loke> Meway: or tmux
[15:02] <jgspratt> tmux++
[15:02] <dr_willis> TomyLobo:  like.. totally failing to boot.. You DONT want to mix packages from differnt releases..  if you do - dont expect any support from here.
[15:02] <Rainyin> ^_^
[15:03] <TomyLobo> no i mean like which packages?
[15:03] <dr_willis> TomyLobo:  no idea.
[15:03] <Meway> loke: so if I have server-bla1 running and it is running. How would I go from an empty terminal to seeing that  programs output without closing it?
[15:03] <dr_willis> Im not even sure how you would install gcc from  a newer release in an old release.
[15:03] <loke> Meway: You can't. Unless the program was started under screen or tmux
[15:03] <outofhand> I cant believe no one can help with this .....
[15:04] <Meway> loke: screen is terminal?
[15:04] <dr_willis> !screen
[15:04] <loke> Meway: No. screen is a program that provides the functionality you seek
[15:04] <loke> Meway: tmux is also such a program, which is newer, better but not as commonly available
[15:04] <Meway> loke: does it cost?
[15:05] <loke> Meway: no
[15:05] <loke> Meway: just apt-get install it
[15:05] <TomyLobo> dr_willis,  afaict, it will only update libgcc1
[15:05] <jgspratt> Meway: what I do is this: find a machine that has tmux on it, build up a multi-leveled tmux with sessions into each of the servers I want and then connect to that tmux every time
[15:05] <TomyLobo> also libgomp1 and libitm1
[15:05] <jgspratt> for convenience, use tmuxinator to define your connections and distribute the public ssh key of your tmux host to all the clients.
[15:06] <loke> jgspratt: ouch. I have started to dislike the spreading ofpublich ssh keys. It's a nightmare to manage and keep secure
[15:06] <loke> jgspratt: If you have more than a handful of machines, you should be using Kerberos
[15:06] <jgspratt> loke: ah: I have a puppet for you!
[15:07] <loke> jgspratt: Kerberos is what provides happieness :-)
[15:08] <lgonzalez> putos
[15:08] <Meway> link tmux?
[15:09] <cloudrf> is ubuntu gpl compliant??
[15:09] <loke> Meway: Did you even try to google? It's the first hit.
[15:11] <asshole1> l,
[15:11] <Meway> asshole1: ... /nick bunghole ....
[15:11] <asshole1> tg
[15:11] <Meway> loke: no sorry lol
[15:12] <TomyLobo> how do i add a repository in a way that i need to write apt-get install package/repo
[15:14] <BluesKaj> TomyLobo, do you mean a PPA or a repository that needs to be enabled in the package manager/sources.list
[15:15] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:24] <wdilli01> Hi folks, I want a particular script to run before a system reboots, between the user hitting init 6, typing reboot, or going to reboot in the guy, where can i put such a script?
[15:25] <wdilli01> GUI**
[15:25] <heoyea> use cron
[15:25] <heoyea> at reboot
[15:26] <AR_> lol @ topic in #2,000
[15:26] <wdilli01> cron allows you to do something at reboot?
[15:27] <wdilli01> awesome will check it out
[15:31] <TomyLobo> BluesKaj, i figured it out. i misspelled something :)
[15:32] <unapodo> Hi
[15:32] <unapodo> dsfdasfasd
[15:32] <unapodo> sdahfadsñkldags
[15:32] <unapodo> dsfhasdklfa
[15:35] <donspaulding> Shoot, unapodo left before I got the chance to tell him his keyboard was working.
[15:35] <TomyLobo> dr_willis, upgrading cpp, g++, gcc, libgcc1, libgomp1, libquadmath0, libstdc++6 from 4.6.3-1ubuntu5 to 4.7.2-2ubuntu1; replacing {cpp,gcc,g++}-4.6, gcc-4.6-base, libstdc++6-4.6-dev by their 4.7 equivalents; installing libitm1 4.7.2-2ubuntu1
[15:35] <AdvoWork> for some reason,ive just pressed something but I dont know what, ive lost the surround of my firefox, and terminal, basically the top navigation/bottom have totally dissapeared.any idea how to restore these? ive restarted them but same problem so not sure what ive done..
[15:35] <kotakkuning> testing
[15:35] <der_kleene> glückwunsch
[15:35] <OpenSorce> donspaulding, I thought we were all just ignoring the obvious troll :-P
[15:35] <TomyLobo> doesn't sound like it would break anything :)
[15:36] <OpenSorce> hexy, how's your issue coming along?
[15:36] <hexy> OpenSorce: Horrible.
[15:36] <hexy> Not getting anywhere.
[15:37] <OpenSorce> hexy oh my...
[15:37] <OpenSorce> hexy, so have we identified the driver and tried re-installing it?
[15:38] <TomyLobo> dr_willis,  i should at least end up with a working apt :)
[15:38] <hexy> OpenSorce: We identified it, but didn't try reinstalling it.
[15:38] <unapodo> oh yeah
[15:38] <unapodo> of course
[15:39] <unapodo> helloooo
[15:39] <unapodo> dfg
[15:39] <OpenSorce> hexy, I would try that first... removing then installing the driver
[15:40] <hexy> I don't know how to it.
[15:40] <hexy> Mind helping me out here?
[15:40] <OpenSorce> hexy, if that doesn't work I would say start looking for the error message
[15:40] <OpenSorce> hexy sure, do you know the name of the driver/package?
[15:41] <kotakkuning> testing
[15:41] <hexy> OpenSorce: Uhmm.. not sure what you mean.
[15:41] <OpenSorce> hexy, step one should be sudo apt-get remove <packagename> then sudo apt-get install <packagename>... so we need to find out the name of the driver package
[15:42] <ovidiu-florin> what flag do I have to give to g++ to sow all compile errors? So that the compiler does not stop on the first error?
[15:42] <fego> ovidiu-florin: may be -Wall
[15:42] <hexy> OpenSorce: Well, how do I find the name?
[15:42] <ovidiu-florin> fego: that is for warnings
[15:43] <ovidiu-florin> does it also include errors?
[15:43] <OpenSorce> hexy, looking now... we said earlier it should be the i910 driver right?
[15:43] <hexy> I found it...
[15:43] <ovidiu-florin> fego: as far as I know it does not
[15:43] <hexy> I apt-cache search i915
[15:43] <fego> ovidiu-florin: errors and warnings are different things altogether
[15:44] <unapodo> exactly
[15:44] <hexy> and it's xserver-xorg-video-intel
[15:44] <ovidiu-florin> fego: -W* stands for warnings
[15:44] <unapodo> no no, you are wrong
[15:44] <hexy> So I guess I'll remove and reinstall like you said.
[15:44] <hexy> OpenSorce: Should I purge remove or just remove?
[15:44] <fego> ovidiu-florin: you can get warning at comile time even if your code gets compiled flawlessly
[15:45] <gyanesh> hello
[15:45] <gyanesh> i m newbie
[15:45] <ovidiu-florin> fego: I know that
[15:45] <OpenSorce> hexy, you're right purging might be a good idea, btw what version of Ubuntu?
[15:45] <hexy> 12.04
[15:45] <gyanesh> can anybody help me to start with ubuntu development??????
[15:46] <uu> develop what?
[15:46] <gyanesh> app
[15:46] <pl_> join /#gstreamer
[15:46] <gyanesh> a simple networking app
[15:47] <uu> i removed ubuntu software center at the beginning, always
[15:47] <nawaf> how to change default theme in liveCD after remastering ubuntu
[15:48] <OpenSorce> hexy, okay I would try the instructions here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-intel-82852855gm-drivers-in-ubuntu-using-ppa.html
[15:48] <hexy> Well, already purged, and reinstalled.
[15:48] <hexy> OpenSorce: Now restarting.
[15:48] <OpenSorce> hexy, it tells you to add a Stefan Glasenhardt's ppa which I understand is kept up to date.
[15:48] <OpenSorce> hexy, good luck
[15:48] <TomyLobo> how do i check whether libstdc++6-4.6.3 and -4.7.2 are binary compatible?
[15:48] <hexy> We'll see in a sec.
[15:49] <arucard> hola alguien save porque no puedo instalar guadalinexv8
[15:49] <hexy> OpenSorce: So..... =[
[15:49] <hexy> ='[
[15:49] <hexy> Didn't work.
[15:50] <hexy> I guess I'll see that link you sent.
[15:50] <OpenSorce> hexy, did you reboot that quick?
[15:50] <hexy> Yeah.
[15:50] <hexy> Lol
[15:50] <gyanesh> how can i change my theme in ubuntu?
[15:50] <fego> !spanish | arucard
[15:50] <OpenSorce> hexy, wow... it never even said you left the channel
[15:51] <hexy> OpenSorce: I'm on a diff machine.
[15:51] <hexy> Lol
[15:51] <OpenSorce> hexy, oh... derp
[15:51] <arucard> ok gracias
[15:51] <gyanesh> any body how can i change my theme in ubuntu?
[15:51] <fego> arucard: you are welcome
[15:52] <OpenSorce> hexy, okay... well now we probably want to look through the X errors and see if we see anything obvious... don't remember where Ubuntu keeps those hold on
[15:53] <fego> gyanesh: System Settings. Themes are on the Appearance page. Did you try searching on Dash?
[15:55] <TomyLobo> ok, so i can still run apt-get, so i guess i *should* be fine even after a reboot
[15:55] <TomyLobo> at least fine enough to downgrade.
[15:55] <borini> hi all...general knowledge question: when i type 'iconv -l' i get a list of character sets -- where are these stored?
[15:56] <TomyLobo> strace it :P
[15:56] <TomyLobo> borini ^
[15:59] <lexipain2> te
[15:59] <kotakkuning> test
[16:00] <fego> kotakkuning: there is #test too
[16:00] <Lexipain> h
[16:00] <ritz_> hi, hitting this
[16:00] <ritz_> $ bzr branch lp:ubuntu/quantal/pidgin  12.10   bzr: ERROR: Revision {ken.vandine@canonical.com-20120406154135-l8969oa3dxnsjqvk} not present in "Graph(StackedParentsProvider(bzrlib.repository._LazyListJoin(([CachingParentsProvider(None)], []))))".
[16:01] <ritz_> do I file a bz against pidgin or against lp ?
[16:01] <ritz_> s/lp/bzr
[16:12] <lotharz0r> I've got a problem with NFS. I made a dd image of a server of mine while it was running, and made a vmware virtual hard drive of that image. Now when I export NFS directories, I can mount them on clients, but it's the wrong dir. Any idea what I can do?
[16:15] <cloudrf> any way to speak to canonical directly?
[16:15] <cloudrf> by voice preferably
[16:16] <tacorwin> cloudrf: go to the ubuntu.com and find there email. but voice  is best
[16:16] <P0P> hello everyone
[16:16] <cloudrf> i want an avenue to advertize my ubuntu machines on their site
[16:17] <tacorwin> i would email them then.
[16:17] <cloudrf> mint is a bit slow to respond
[16:17] <TomyLaptop> updating gcc 4.6 to 4.7 with packages from quantal worked :)
[16:18] <AdvoWork> for some reason,ive just pressed something but I dont know what, ive lost the surround of my firefox, and terminal, basically the top navigation/bottom have totally dissapeared.any idea how to restore these? ive restarted them but same problem so not sure what ive done..
[16:20] <FrEaKmAn_> does ubuntu 12.10 work with windows8 dual boot?
[16:20] <BaldFat> AdvoWork: your window manager crashed
[16:21] <BaldFat> AdvoWork: What desk top enviroment do you use?
[16:27] <cloudrf> windows 8 sucks anyway
[16:27] <FrEaKmAn_> cloudrf: ok.. but still
[16:27] <TomyLaptop> not a lot more than unity :D
[16:27] <cloudrf> grub loader should work'
[16:28] <cloudrf> i use xfce tomy
[16:28] <FrEaKmAn_> xubuntu?
[16:28] <TomyLaptop> FrEaKmAn_,  install linux last, then it should be fine
[16:28] <cloudrf> just use grub
[16:28] <cloudrf> the loader should do all the work
[16:29] <cloudrf> xubuntu is king yes
[16:29] <cloudrf> xfce is the best desktop environment in my opinion
[16:30] <cloudrf> not as pretty but definately kicks butt
[16:30] <cloudrf> kubuntu or xubuntu are probably the best alternatives freakman
[16:31] <TomyLaptop> kubuntu is really nice now that plasma is more mature
[16:31] <svampo> ciao
[16:33] <mih1406> I was trying to contact Arabic Translation Team to ask them if translations of Ubuntu on Launchpad benefits them or not? But nobody is responding to me. Who can?
[16:37] <ccc_> Cordel
[16:37] <ccc_> Helllo
[16:37] <ccc_> I need tech support
[16:37] <ccc_> lol
[16:37] <ccc_> my gtx 280 isnt working
[16:38] <ccc_> How can I add another resolution to my video cards properties?
[16:38] <patr|ck_> when my $HOME is encrypted, is /home/.ecryptfs/patrick/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase inside or outside the encrypted space?
[16:38] <ccc_> I want 1080x720 16x9
[16:39] <patr|ck_> ccc_, nvidia chip by chance?
[16:39] <toddnjamie> Do any of you know anything about hooking up a canon printer to ubuntu?
[16:39] <ccc_> gtx - 280
[16:39] <TomyLaptop> ccc_ i think there was something about that in "man xrandr"
[16:39] <ccc_> nvidia
[16:39] <patr|ck_> ccc_, try the nvidita-settings app
[16:39] <ccc_> i did
[16:39] <patr|ck_> sorry for the spelling
[16:40] <patr|ck_> ccc_, or edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:41] <ccc> is that where resolutions are stored in unix?
[16:41] <ccc> i want to force 1080x720
[16:41] <toddnjamie> I need help installing a canon pixma mg2120 printer on my ubuntu system. I can't get it to detect my printer
[16:41] <TomyLaptop> ccc, this is ubuntu, not unix
[16:42] <attila_work> hi
[16:42] <ccc> basically coke and pepsi
[16:42] <BluesKaj> ccc, look in system settings>display and monitor , you can set your resolution there as well.
[16:42] <TomyLaptop> xrandr --addmode VGA 1080x720
[16:42] <TomyLaptop> substitute your output's name
[16:43] <attila_work> I installed gnome classic on my ubuntu 12.10, and then installed compiz plugins, but now for all users except root, the checkboxes next to all compiz items are grayed out. How do I fix this?
[16:44] <ccc> how do i get my outputs name?
[16:44] <TomyLaptop> ccc, system settings for display
[16:45] <TomyLaptop> or just type xrandr without a parameter
[16:45] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2066330 toddnjamie
[16:46] <toddnjamie> bazhang: Yes, thank you for that, but I've already tried that. I can't get it to work. I don't know if maybe I'm missing some key here, or what...
[16:46] <bazhang> toddnjamie, there are *two* solutions there
[16:47] <troulouliou_dev> hi i just install my hard disk running on a laptop with nvidia card to a laptop with intel card , is there a command to auto reconfigure Xorg
[16:47] <troulouliou_dev> i still have the nvidia xorg conf with a 640x480 screen
[16:48] <toddnjamie> bazhang, yes I know. I've been working on this nonstop for almost 16 hours....Maybe I'm just tired and can't figure something out. Can't see the forest through the trees kind of thing. I'm not computer savvy....
[16:48] <uu> poor resolution
[16:48] <gaby> any body could help me to remove some programs ?
[16:48] <gaby> i need to free some space
[16:49] <bazhang> gaby, installed how
[16:49] <gaby> bazhand: installed  already
[16:49] <bazhang> gaby, how    were they installed
[16:50] <attila_work> problem solved: I had to enable Preferences -> Plugin List -> Automatic Plugin Sorting
[16:50] <gaby> bazhang: like ubuntu one - like games - and so on
[16:51] <gaby> bazhang : its installed with ubuntu when i was installing ubuntu it self
[16:51] <bazhang> gaby, so remove with the package manager
[16:51] <bazhang> toddnjamie, add the ppa
[16:51] <gaby> bazhang : i cant open the package manager
[16:51] <bazhang> !addppa | toddnjamie
[16:51] <troulouliou_dev> gaby, apt-get clean && apt-get autoremove
[16:52] <troulouliou_dev> may already help
[16:52] <toddnjamie> Therein lies the problem. Unless I'm missing something major something here, I can't figure out what you're talking about. I'm on the page you just gave me, looking at the ppa link, and I don't see what I'm supposed to do here. I'm sorry. I know I'm an idiot...people should not let me near ubuntu....:(
[16:52] <bazhang> gaby, whats the error
[16:52] <gaby> bazhang : not responding
[16:53] <bazhang> toddnjamie, I just gave you the link on how to add a ppa
[16:53] <toddnjamie> Yes, I understand that. I know you did. Thank you. I'll figure it out from here. Thanks.
[16:54] <bazhang> gaby, then remove from the command line; sudo apt-get remove packagename
[16:55] <toddnjamie> This link you sent me, doesn't show me how to install the ppa files. Again, unless I'm missing something important. Does ubuntu not have an ubuntu for dummies page?
[16:55] <toddnjamie> That's where I should go.
[16:56] <bazhang> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name   <----- toddnjamie
[16:57] <gskellik> I get "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.10 has experienced an internal error" popping up all the time
[16:57] <gskellik> but nothing seems to be wrong..
[16:57] <gskellik> the error is just annoying
[16:57] <gaby> bazhang : i did so and tells  me ...unable to lock the download directory
[16:58] <toddnjamie> It just says cannot access ppa.
[16:58] <bazhang> gaby, so close all other instances of apt, package manager etc, or wait til a current install is finished then close
[16:58] <bazhang> gaby, you did use *sudo* , correct?
[16:59] <gaby> bazhang : iam not able to download any thing as i dont have a space for 0MB
[16:59] <bazhang> toddnjamie, whats the exact add ppa command you used
[16:59] <gaby> bazhang: correct - i did use sudo
[16:59] <bazhang> gaby, so close all other instances of apt
[17:00] <toddnjamie> ok, it did all that...it said it's done reading package lists. I typoed when I typed it in. Remember: 16 hours straight here. I need a break lol..
[17:00] <bazhang> toddnjamie, now sudo apt-get update
[17:00] <toddnjamie> It said it's done reading package lists, and the link you gave me says I'm now ready to install software from the ppa or something like that....
[17:00] <toddnjamie> I did that too
[17:00] <toddnjamie> It's done all that.
[17:00] <bazhang> toddnjamie, so install it
[17:01] <toddnjamie> The regular software I was trying to use in the first place? Am I understand that correctly?
[17:01] <bazhang> toddnjamie, the software from the ppa. use the exact name
[17:02] <toddnjamie> that's where I get confused. I'm so sorry. I'm not trying to make your day difficult, I swear! lol I'm such a girl...:( I don't know what you mean when you say that...the software from the ppa...I thought that was what I just did...I'm sorry :(
[17:03] <bazhang> toddnjamie, paste.ubuntu.com the *exact commands* you used and give us the url
[17:03] <gaby> bazhang:
[17:03] <gaby> bazhang:gaby@Gaby-Inspiron:~$ sudo apt-get remove ubuntu one
[17:03] <gaby> [sudo] password for gaby:
[17:03] <gaby> Reading package lists... Done
[17:03] <gaby> Building dependency tree
[17:03] <gaby> Reading state information... Done
[17:03] <FloodBot1> gaby: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:03] <gaby> E: Unable to locate package ubuntu
[17:03] <bazhang> gaby, paste.ubuntu.com
[17:04] <toddnjamie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1370502/
[17:04] <thrownawaytrash> hey guys. quick question here. currently distro hopping, primarily ubuntu based and was wondering which deb package should i get, since I don't want to keep redownloading wine every time I switch. amd64 or  i386 (here's the page i think i need to download itfrom https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa/+packages)
[17:06] <spinadoro> ciao
[17:06] <spinadoro> !list
[17:06] <cloudrf>  amd triple core 3.1ghz 8gbs ram 2tb hard drive, and a dvd burner
 500$
[17:07] <bazhang> cnijfilter-common-3.70 cnijfilter-common-3.60  <----- toddnjamie install those
[17:07] <toddnjamie> do I just copy and paste what you just typed?
[17:08] <bazhang> toddnjamie, sudo apt-get install
[17:08] <toddnjamie> ok thank you...
[17:08] <bazhang> and those two packages at the end toddnjamie
[17:09] <keith_> Is it possible to install packages for 12.04 on 12.10?
[17:09] <bazhang> keith_, never mix distro versions
[17:09] <keith_> bazhang: So I'll need to install from source if the package is being removed?
[17:09] <toddnjamie> It says unable to locate package cnijfilter-common-3.70
[17:09] <bazhang> keith_, which package
[17:09] <toddnjamie> said same thing for the other one.
[17:10] <keith_> libtrilinos
[17:11] <jevans> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04, and when I get to the partitioning screen, none of my hard drives show up. fdisk -l shows me both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, as expected. Has anyone seen anything like this before?
[17:12] <jevans> Also the only choice in 'Device for boot loader installation' is /dev/sdb, which is unexpected
[17:13] <toddnjamie> I tried again, it still said "E: Unable to locate package cnijfilter-common-3.70"...said same for cnijfilter-common-3.60
[17:14] <keith_> bazhang: At least, this site indicates it is going to be removed: http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/trilinos.html
[17:14] <keith_> I don't know for sure
[17:15] <bazhang> toddnjamie, now try sudo apt-get upgrade  then try and install them
[17:15] <toddnjamie> Ok, I'll try that. It's doing the upgrade right now.
[17:16] <toddnjamie> I have yet another question. When I'm doing the sudo apt-get install, do I type both packages in same command, or do them separately?
[17:16] <bazhang> toddnjamie, both together
[17:17] <toddnjamie> ok thank you so much...you've been very patient with my stupidity and I appreciate it. I'm trying it all right now.
[17:20] <notrin> hey there
[17:20] <notrin> my lcd keeps going black randomly, then coming back
[17:20] <notrin> suppose this is a driver or resolution issue?
[17:24] <toddnjamie> bazhang, when this gets done, will there be another step after attempting again the sudo apt-get install process?
[17:25] <toddnjamie> right now, it's still finishing the upgrade, I just wanted to see where I would have to go after this.
[17:25] <bazhang> toddnjamie, yes, you need to then give the command to install those two packages
[17:25] <ar_> hello
[17:26] <toddnjamie> sudo apt-get install cnijfilter-common-3.70 cnijfilter-common-3.60, right?
[17:26] <Lexipain> he
[17:26] <bazhang> correct toddnjamie
[17:26] <toddnjamie> again, unable to locate package.
[17:26] <toddnjamie> Just did it.
[17:26] <BluebirdShao> hey, guys, where i can get the pxeboot.tar.gz file
[17:27] <bazhang> toddnjamie, pastebin the exact command you used and give us the url
[17:27] <toddnjamie> ok
[17:28] <toddnjamie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1370558/
[17:28] <BluebirdShao> And i read "Untar the file netboot/pxeboot.tar.gz into /var/lib..." on help.ubuntu.com, but i don't know where i can obtain the 'pxeboot.tar.gz' file.
[17:29] <BluebirdShao> somebody know how i can obtain 'pxeboot.tar.gz' file?
[17:31] <bazhang> toddnjamie, what happens when you try to tab complete the package name    sudo apt-get install cnijfilter-<tabkey>
[17:31] <notrin> BluebirdShao, : google duh
[17:31] <notrin> http://bcomisky.com/cuwin/pxeboot/pxeboot.tar.gz
[17:32] <toddnjamie> I'm not sure what you're asking me to do. I typed what you put, then hit the tab key, and nothing happened.
[17:32] <Ian_Corne> For some reason, jockey-gtk isn't available to me
[17:32] <tempnanner> hey folks, Im trying to setup my server for openvpn.  I got it working so far to the point where my client gets the right address on tap0 but I cant go anywhere on the client
[17:32] <Ian_Corne> it's installed, but it's not runable
[17:32] <Ian_Corne> anyone any idea?
[17:33] <BluesKaj> Ian_Corne, just type jockey in the run command
[17:33] <Ian_Corne> nothing found
[17:33] <Ian_Corne> $ jockey
[17:33] <Ian_Corne> jockey: command not found
[17:33] <trism> Ian_Corne: it is in software-properties-gtk in 12.10
[17:33] <Ian_Corne> aha
[17:33] <tempnanner> I followed this tut exactly, http://serverubuntu.it/openvpn-bridge-configuration
[17:34] <Ian_Corne> nice
[17:34] <Ian_Corne> it's weird to put it with software sources..
[17:35] <BluesKaj> Ian_Corne, the run command is alt+f2 , not the terminal
[17:35] <bazhang> toddnjamie, what happens when you type apt-cache search cnijfilter
[17:35] <Ian_Corne> doesn't work, it proposes jockey-text
[17:35] <toddnjamie> nothing.
[17:36] <wald0> this is a novice question but, if i run the live system of ubuntu, it installs automatically the nvidia (original) drivers with 3d acceleration ? or how it is managed ?
[17:36] <BluesKaj> !who | Ian_Corne
[17:36] <MenschMaschine> Hi
[17:36] <bazhang> toddnjamie, so either the PPA is offline for the moment, or there was an error with adding the ppa which I could not detect. try again a bit later, and if all else fails, contact the PPA maintainer
[17:37] <Ian_Corne> BluesKaj: I will ok :), as I said, it proposes jockey-txt, but the software-sources window has it now
[17:37] <toddnjamie> ok...thank you.
[17:38] <wald0> maybe Mint ?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> Ian_Corne, strange things going on with gnome/unity ...  losing touch
[17:39] <Ian_Corne> BluesKaj: yeah, they're just regrouping I guess, but it seems it would be beter suited to be in the software center
[17:40] <Basil1x> Hello.  12.10 with both Kubuntu and Ubuntu installed.  The screen keeps blanking after ~5min inactivity.  The fora responses to this problem are unhelpful.  I have the power settings and brightness / screensaver set to never.
[17:40] <MenschMaschine> Ho long should a fsck take on  ~8TB disk? Can’t remember if ext3 or ext4 with lots of hards links?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> Ian_Corne, I've been on kde for several yrs , at least it's a bit more consistent
[17:41] <inner_peace> hello  any one know and deal in deep with Zimbra mail server ???
[17:41] <StFS> Hi... how do I list all packages that depend on a package X?
[17:42] <Ian_Corne> BluesKaj: kde is not for me, tried it and didn't suit me well =)
[17:42] <ChogyDan> StFS: apt-cache rdpends $package_name
[17:42] <ChogyDan> *rdepends
[17:42] <StFS> ChogyDan: thank you!
[17:42] <wald0> hello ?
[17:43] <kernan> Hey guys! I just type sudo apt-get install Gnome-Tweak-Tool. How do i start det program?! :O
[17:43] <kernan> I got ubuntu 12.10 btw.
[17:43] <wald0> mmh, nobody knows ? or nobody reads me ? :S
[17:44] <wald0> are nvidia drivers supported in ubuntu ?
[17:44] <inner_peace> hello
[17:44] <ChogyDan> wald0: people will answer if they know it, otherwise, folks stay silent
[17:44] <uskerine> hi,
[17:44] <pejamus> So, I have been tinkering around with windows/dos for 20 years and I finally got curious enough to try ubuntu yesterday.  Very interesting but I'm still very lost
[17:44] <BluesKaj> Ian_Corne, I wasn't suggesting it was , merely pointing out there seem to be a lot of changes in ubuntu , that we don't see in kubuntu
[17:45] <wald0> ChogyDan: i thought that was a very common question...
[17:45] <inner_peace> any one see mu ques
[17:45] <ChogyDan> wald0: you want to know how to install nvidia drivers in a live install?
[17:45] <uskerine> i have an ubuntu server which has autoupgraded to 3.2.0-33 and I would like to rollback to 3.2.0-29 and freeze server in that "version 29", how can i do that?
[17:45] <uskerine> http://pastebin.com/D2fNr3ae
[17:45] <wald0> ChogyDan: well, more like if the privative nvidia drivers run "out of the box" (by some automatic install) in live mode
[17:46] <ChogyDan> uskerine: quick and dirty, just remove the linux meta packages.  You won't get anymore updates
[17:46] <BluesKaj> pejamus, do you have an issue or questions ?
[17:47] <uskerine> ChogyDan, sorry but I do not know how to remove the linux emta packages. :(
[17:47] <s3m73x> pejamus: why you are lost ? So much new things to learn ? :)
[17:47] <ChogyDan> uskerine: very simple actually.  Just remove the linux packages you don't want, and the meta packages will get removed as a side affect.  ie, just remove 3.2.0-33 and make sure you still have 3.2.0-29 installed
[17:48] <pejamus> actually, I installed the new version of steam on ubuntu.  I didn't know I hate to be registered in the beta.  Now I want to delete Steam, but don't know how.
[17:48] <uskerine> ChogyDan, will that ensure that no new 3.2.0-3x packages will be installed?
[17:48] <pejamus> had*
[17:48] <kernan> Hey guys! I just type sudo apt-get install Gnome-Tweak-Tool. How do i start det program?! :O
[17:48] <MenschMaschine> Let me ask again, now with more info
[17:48] <pejamus> and yes... this is a completely foreign territory to me
[17:49] <inner_peace> hello
[17:49] <ChogyDan> uskerine: in a manner of speaking, yes.  Once you break the update behavior, it won't come back unless you install it again
[17:49] <uskerine> ok, let's try that then
[17:49] <h00k> kernan: open your menu in the upper left, and start to type/search for it
[17:49] <ChogyDan> wald0: I suspect the answer is no, unless you use a live usb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/69432/livecd-with-nvidia-binary-drivers
[17:50] <s3m73x> ß
[17:50] <uskerine> ChogyDan so i just apt-get remove linux-headers-3.2.0-32, linux-headers-3.2.0-32-generic, linux-image-3.2.0-32-generic
[17:50] <uskerine> ?
[17:50] <wald0> ChogyDan: thx
[17:50] <Mats> hello all
[17:51] <ChogyDan> uskerine: well, maybe, is that really the package names?  Also, aren't you worried about 33, not 32?
[17:51] <uskerine> I want to freeze it in 29
[17:51] <uskerine> i have 31,32 and 33
[17:51] <MenschMaschine> How long should a fsck last on a 6TB ext4 volume with lots of hard links (ie a backup disk)
[17:51] <Mats> I am following instructions: when i run "chroot /target /bin/bash' i get the error ='cannot change root directory to /target: no such file or directory" why am i getting this error, should target be something????
[17:52] <gordonjcp> MenschMaschine: quite a long time, I'd say
[17:52] <pauser> hello, i have a bit of problems with my sound card driver i suppose. when i record or make a skype call the voice sound  wired. i know that its drivers fault because i tried another mic and in windows it worked well. how can i install the adequate driver for my card. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1370615/ . ps. in windows i used a realtek hd driver but ubuntu installs the wrong driver i think.
[17:53] <ChogyDan> uskerine: yeah, that is how you do it.  Those are the correct versions.  Just do that for all three versions, 31, 32, 33, and you will be done.  It will stay on 29 still the next major upgrade
[17:53] <llutz> Mats: "/target" stands for the directory you want to chroot to,ie where you mounted a different install or whatever
[17:53] <MenschMaschine> gordonjcp: I’ve waited 96 hours before interrupting it, as i’d thought it might have silently crashed. So longer than that?
[17:53] <llutz> Mats: so yes, target should be something
[17:54] <Mats> llutz: is there a way to check the current root
[17:55] <Kartagis> !redmine
[17:55] <Mats> is there a way to check the current root?
[17:55] <causative> is there any way to do a silent version upgrade?  it's seriously a pain to keep coming back to the upgrade in progress and find it has halted and wants me to click continue
[17:56] <ChogyDan> causative: typically it should do that.  I think it is a bug if it doesn't
[17:56] <llutz> Mats: mount/df should tell
[17:56] <causative> it should do what, be silent?
[17:57] <WeThePeople> does updating the kernel alsoo mean a dist-upgrade as well?
[17:57] <causative> well I've gotten several prompts
[17:57] <causative> upgrading to 12.04
[17:57] <causative> it should have been done half an hour ago
[17:57] <causative> instead it has half an hour to go, plus I have to sit here
[17:57] <causative> to keep it from stopping
[17:57] <ChogyDan> causative: well, not ask questions.
[17:57] <Mats> TY
[17:57] <Mats> TY
[17:57] <causative> well it does anyway so what can I do about that
[17:58] <causative> maybe for the next upgrade since this is only to 12.04
[17:58] <causative> so there will be another to 12.10
[17:59] <causative> I don't remember exactly which modules were asking me questions
[17:59] <causative> emacs-speak was the first
[17:59] <Pici> !enter
[18:00] <gordonjcp> MenschMaschine: quite possibly, yes
[18:00] <gordonjcp> MenschMaschine: is there any progress indication?  Does the drive show any signs of activity?
[18:00] <causative> I asked my question on one line...after that is just discussing it
[18:01] <kernan> Hey, how do i install my nvidia drives?!
 is there any way to do a silent version upgrade?  it's seriously a pain to keep coming back to the upgrade in progress and find it has halted and wants me to click continue
[18:02] <ChogyDan> causative: it is just good to keep your responses to a single line as well, so other support can happen in this chat as well
[18:02] <causative> I say things when I think of them, didn't think of everything at once
[18:03] <pauser> here how it does recored the sound for me. http://speedy.sh/9QsSh/2012-11-19-185942.ogg
[18:04] <ItsAllGoneWierd> Hi, I did something wrong with the partitioning while installing 12.04 some weeks ago.. I gave / 25gb and /home 120gb. /home is not being used, and it is mounted at /media. Now the / partition is full and I have 120 gb unused. How can I mount the right partition without breaking anything?
 is there any way to do a silent version upgrade?  it's seriously a pain to keep coming back to the upgrade in progress and find it has halted and wants me to click continue.  I'm upgrading to 12.04 so will soon do another upgrade to 12.10.  I don't remember every package that was prompting me, but emacs-speak was one of them
[18:04] <ItsAllGoneWierd> Hm, a bit unclear that one.. lol
[18:05] <mee_> hello, unity is not loading with fglrx driver ? is there a workaround for this problem ?
[18:06] <ChogyDan> mee_: try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic && sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)-generic
[18:07] <uskerine> ChogyDan, removing 3x packages worked fine, now I am again in 29 and my digium card driver -which was compiled ad-hoc for 29- works fine
[18:07] <mee_> i will try, thanks
[18:07] <uskerine> ChogyDan, thanks a lot
[18:07] <ChogyDan> uskerine: yw
[18:07] <llutz> ItsAllGoneWierd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[18:08] <ItsAllGoneWierd> llutz: thx! :)
[18:08] <Guest76469> ciao
[18:08] <causative> so emacspeak is one of them, a package I don't really need so I can just remove it
[18:09] <causative> but that isn't the worst of them since it only prompted me at the beginning and the end
[18:10] <|strider|> Hi how to install 12.04 lts and make the /boot partition on a flash usb drive ?
[18:11] <|strider|> anyone did that ?
[18:12] <|strider|> Make a 12.04 lts install where the /boot is on a usb flash ?
[18:12] <lonewulf85> I have a problem when trying to install a package from source. where can i post multiple lines to show my issue?
[18:12] <llutz> !pastebib | lonewulf85
[18:12] <llutz> !pastebin | lonewulf85
[18:12] <shvchk> Hello. What is the best way to upgrade Ubuntu on remote computer? I have 11.04 with TeamViewer there now, and want to upgrade to 12.04, but I think it will remove TeamViewer on upgrade, right?
[18:12] <causative> alright here's another prompt that I remember getting before
[18:13] <causative> "what would you like to do about menu.lst?" options are to keep the local version currently installed, install the new version, or do some investigation and diffing
[18:13] <causative> I remember that message appearing right in the middle of the installation stopping everything
[18:13] <causative> how can I suppress it in the future?
[18:14] <causative> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:14] <lonewulf85> Here is my issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/1370658/
[18:16] <ChogyDan> lonewulf85: you need to install the -dev versions of those packages I believe
[18:16] <lonewulf85> ChogyDan: I will try that and see if it helps. Thanks
[18:17] <ChogyDan> |strider|: why do you want to do that?  seems risky do put /boot on random drives
[18:17] <|strider|> :)  ChogyDan well, no risk no reward :)
[18:17] <OryHara> what's the easiest and quickest way to make ubuntu a lot faster and smoother. I don't care for the heavy gui and all that fluff, my computer is ancient and I have to wait like 30 seconds in between commands
[18:17] <shvchk> Anyone? What is the best way to Upgrade Ubuntu on remote computer behind NAT?
[18:18] <|strider|> I have a OpenSuSE install with boot on that same device.
[18:18] <|strider|> My problem is far more complex and I am starting to use the 12.04 LTs as a reference install
[18:18] <|strider|> I actu7ally like Unity
[18:18] <|strider|> So the idea is this, first install 12.04 and the boot on usb flash
[18:18] <ChogyDan> |strider|: if a clean install, I would just use the manual partitioner to setup /boot, and see what happens
[18:19] <|strider|> ChogyDan I just did that and ... I boot from flash directly to a grub rescue prompt ?!?!
[18:19] <OryHara> my processor is running at 100% and I don't know why, what can I do?
[18:19] <uu> i run ubuntu on ufds for a long time
[18:19] <|strider|> I made some ls to investigate and everything seems to be in place.
[18:20] <|strider|> ChogyDan Also the partition I used on the flash is a Bootable ext3 primary partition ... nothing there to make a wrong boot device?!
[18:20] <lonewulf85> ChogyDan: The only development package that I can find that is not installed right now is libgnome2.0 cli dev do you think that would help?
[18:21] <ChogyDan> |strider|: that means it didn't work.  I dunno, maybe try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootPartition
[18:21] <|strider|> Anyone Is there a reason for ubuntu installer to dislike a usb flash for /boot ?
[18:22] <|strider|> Also I tried to make the bootloader both on /dev/sdc and /dev/sdc1 the disk and the disk partition. ... same result .
[18:22] <Malimbar> does grub care where the partition is? maybe it can't see it
[18:22] <|strider|> I really think that since Grub2 Problem on boot have Multiplied by 100 X !
[18:23] <|strider|> Grub 2 is  a Real Problem on many distros!
[18:23] <fyksen> Hey! I have had ubuntu on my nexus 7 for some days, but want to get back to regular android. I followed the steps on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation#Returning_your_Nexus_7_to_Stock_Android But I can't get it to work
[18:23] <uu> you don't need grub for multibooting
[18:23] <|strider|> Malimbar ... Grubn install detects the partitions with no problem
[18:24] <lonewulf85> I re ran the install command and got this consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. any ideas?
[18:24] <|strider|> So at least the installer "see's" the partitions ...
[18:24] <|strider|> By the way this did not happen to me on the previous LTS installs ?
[18:24] <|strider|> ?!
[18:25] <ChogyDan> lonewulf85: erm, did you install libglib2.0-dev?
[18:25] <fyksen> I donw know how to "place your machine into fastboot mode".
[18:25] <lonewulf85> ChogyDan: my synaptics says I already have it installed.
[18:26] <Whiskey> Is it someway to install mySQL socket whitout install mySQL?
[18:28] <llutz> fyksen: http://www.jayceooi.com/2012/08/16/google-nexus-7-fastboot-mode/
[18:28] <|strider|> uu sorry for the late reply but ... what do you sugest?
[18:29] <OryHara> how can I uninstall ubuntu's default screen environment and install something lighter like lxkd or whateven it's called
[18:29] <|strider|> I cano not choose the bootloader from what I can see in the installer menus ...
[18:30] <inner_peace> hello any one deal with zimbra mail server
[18:32] <shvchk> Ah... I'll try once more: what is the best way to upgrade Ubuntu on remote PC behind NAT? I have autostarting TeamViewer, will it be ok?
[18:34] <ChogyDan> shvchk: I think the upgrade tool will tell you what will be removed, so you may be able to check
[18:36] <|strider|> Another question is there a problem to upgrade from 11.10 LTS to 12.04 LTS ? both 64 bits ?
[18:36] <shvchk> ChogyDan: thanks, I will check. Also, I have 11.04, is there a way to upgrede directly to 12.04, or I have to go through 11.10 first?
[18:36] <|strider|> Sorry for the question but I am newb to Ubuntu
[18:37] <harushimo> I'm trying to install vmware player on ubuntu but I'm running into some problems
[18:37] <ChogyDan> shvchk: there is only 10.04->12.04 and 11.10->12.04, so you do have to go through
[18:37] <shvchk> ChogyDan: thanks
[18:38] <|strider|> so ChogyDan no way to go from 11.10 to 12.04 right ?
[18:38] <wastrel> america/win 19
[18:38] <wastrel> ww
[18:38] <ChogyDan> |strider|: ? of course there is.  I don't follow
[18:39] <shvchk> |strider| why? He said there is 11.10->12.04. Mb you mean 10.10?
[18:39] <TheLordOfTime> |strider|, what version of Ubuntu are you actually on>?
[18:39] <|strider|> ChogyDan I think i can install 11.04 with no problem on this laptop ... so I would like to know if I can upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04 ...
[18:40] <saml> is there command that executes given script for file motification events?
[18:40] <TheLordOfTime> |strider|, 11.04 -> 12.04 can't be done directly, you'd have to upgrade to 11.10 first.  Just install 12.04 or 11.10
[18:40] <saml> inotify?
[18:40] <|strider|> I have currently no Ubuntu installed only OpenSuSE 11.4, I want to install 12.04
[18:40] <|strider|> OK!
[18:40] <babyswizz> please does anyone have any idea of how i can browse anonymously for free?
[18:40] <|strider|> there you go good folks !
[18:40] <TheLordOfTime> |strider|, you can install 12.04 directly on, you know...
[18:40] <gordonjcp> |strider|: so just do an install of 12.04
[18:41] <|strider|> I am certain that What I want done is possible in 11.04 .. so 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04 !
[18:41] <|strider|> :)
[18:41] <TheLordOfTime> |strider|, why do the extra work?
[18:41] <TheLordOfTime> |strider|, 12.04 is the latest, you don't have to install Older and upgrade to newer :/
[18:41] <|strider|> Because 12.04 does not install /boot on a usb flash drive.
[18:41] <TheLordOfTime> and you want to do this why?
[18:41] <|strider|> So I have to resort to the upgrade way ...
[18:42] <|strider|> Because I need many primary partitions on my hd ...
[18:42] <|strider|> Encryption requirements
[18:42] <gimpygoo> Does anyone know if you can use netbootin to format a hard drive and load a copy of ubuntu onto said hard drive?
[18:42] <|strider|> I use luks encription on many partitions, namelly /, /home and swap
[18:42] <TheLordOfTime> |strider|, you didnt explain why you need /boot off the drive
[18:42] <Xard> i wondered why i couldn't boot on lvm under xen dom0 but the reason is quite simple: whole /dev/sda hard disk is missing... no wonder it can't find partitions
[18:42] <TheLordOfTime> |strider|, /boot from off of the hard drive makes life very hard.
[18:43] <|strider|> Another Security Measure
[18:43] <TheLordOfTime> doesn't count.
[18:43] <TheLordOfTime> its not an actual security measure :p
[18:43] <|strider|> No bootloader and luks headers ... no decoding of the partitions ...
[18:43] <TheLordOfTime> no bootloader, no system.
[18:43] <|strider|> Also :)
[18:43] <|strider|> Another Advantage
[18:43] <TheLordOfTime> what happens when you lose the USB stick
[18:43] <TheLordOfTime> and stop using enter every line :P
[18:43] <|strider|> No problem!
[18:43] <Xard> in the failing initramfs shell the /dev/sr0 is present and can be read
[18:44] <|strider|> No problem Whatsoever ... just a Re.install ...
[18:44] <TheLordOfTime> ... right...
[18:44] <TheLordOfTime> your setup's not logical, so i'm going to go back to fixing my netbook,.
[18:44] <|strider|> :)
[18:44] <babyswizz> please does anyone know of a free application i can use to hide my i.p
[18:44] <|strider|> My laptop is a professional machine, it carries Finantial information, I can not risk a loss
[18:45] <harushimo> I'm getting a vmware error message on ubuntu
[18:45] <|strider|> I work in programming, J2EE
[18:45] <harushimo> I'm trying to get it up and running
[18:45] <ChogyDan> babyswizz: I think tor.  Depends on what usage you are using
[18:45] <ChogyDan> |strider|: make sure you have backups  ;)
[18:45] <|strider|> And I take serios encryption measures, due t an unfortunate event in the past.
[18:45] <TheLordOfTime> !enter | |strider|
[18:46] <|strider|> ChogyDan Absolutelly. I have Dual back-up raid 10 systems encrypted also !
[18:46] <|strider|> Just in case:)
[18:46] <babyswizz> ChogyDan, i just need to open some sites while hiding my i.P
[18:46] <|strider|> TheLordOfTime will try my best to not use enter
[18:47] <ChogyDan> babyswizz: yeah, than I think tor is what you are looking for
[18:47] <shvchk> |strider|: why not just use encrypted virtual machine?
[18:47] <Xard> if anyone has any experience using xen under ubuntu, i'd really like to hear what could cause physical drives to go missing under dom0?
[18:47] <bekks> Xard: Hardware issues.
[18:47] <babyswizz> ChogyDan, can i use software center to install it?
[18:48] <ChogyDan> !tor | babyswizz i dunno, maybe this will show something
[18:48] <|strider|> encrypted vm's are a very good solution shvchk, a very good solution if my machine was a bit more "rsponsive", it is adual-athlon, so not that good for VBox or vmware
[18:48] <Xard> bekks: hardware issues like? the drives work just fine under normal kernel
[18:48] <Mailman> Is is possible to print through Wine? The available drivers for my printer don't work on Ubuntu 12.04.
[18:49] <ChogyDan> Mailman: I don't think so.  Maybe through virtualbox
[18:49] <babyswizz> ChogyDan, thanks a bunch
[18:49] <bekks> Xard: Do you have any messages in dmesg pointing to that issue?
[18:50] <Xard> bekks: i'm just wading through the logs at the moment
[18:50] <|strider|> But i really find it very very bizare that the installer recognizes the partition of the flash drive and does not boot after install.
[18:50] <th3pun15h3r> anyone else try the netflix ubuntu app?
[18:51] <Xard> bekks: i already had a really stupid problem with uefi boot causing xen to crash before reaching dom0 ;<
[18:51] <ChogyDan> th3pun15h3r: I heard about it
[18:51] <causative> after upgrading to 12.04 my wireless has stopped working... I believe I was using the ath9k module for it previously.  I tried modprobe ath9k but that didn't make it start working, what should I try next?
[18:53] <|strider|> Funny ! if the boot goes to hdd there is no problem for 12.04 !
[18:53] <ChogyDan> causative: try: sudo lshw -C networking          see if a driver is loaded
[18:54] <causative> ChogyDan, no results
[18:54] <ChogyDan> |strider|: I think you need to have the same boot device that you boot off of that you had setup grub onto
[18:54] <zvacet> ubuntu is inlow graphic mode (witch is new for me because usually works fine) how can I solve this
[18:55] <ChogyDan> zvacet: what graphics card?
[18:55] <ChogyDan> causative: sudo lshw -C network
[18:55] <zvacet> ChogyDan: ATI  HD 3200
[18:55] <causative> ChogyDan, I did that and got no results
[18:55] <Xard> so, /var/log/xen/ seems to be empty and no trace of logs elsewhere, and why there would be as dom0 cannot find / mount / write to /var/log
[18:56] <zvacet> ChogyDan: but it works just fine until today ( and yes I did some stuff)
[18:56] <ChogyDan> causative: ok.  I posted the wrong command earlier.  I thought that was the issue.
[18:56] <ChogyDan> zvacet: well, you should probably describe what you did, as best you can, and in one line
[18:57] <|strider|> ChogyDan I had exactly that, choose on install /dev/sdc and also place bootloader on /ev/sdc
[18:57] <ankur> HI there
[18:57] <causative> oh sorry it was the issue, with the revised command I did get some results
[18:57] <ankur> I am on 12.04
[18:57] <Cong> well this sucks. see that bit on the right sicking out? this page isn't doesn't support the firefox web browser. http://i49.tinypic.com/20kvfib.jpg
[18:57] <causative> there's the ethernet interface and then there's a network that is listed as UNCLAIMED
[18:57] <ankur> and have a USB external HDD
[18:57] <gimpygoo> what is the command to see what is running on your box?
[18:57] <causative> so I think that's probably the wireless interface
[18:58] <causative> 1 minute let me transfer it to this computer so I can pastebin it
[18:58] <ankur> but ubuntu doesn't detect it
[18:58] <zvacet> ChogyDan: I installed xubuntu desktop following http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[18:58] <ankur> can anyone help?
[18:58] <|strider|> To be precise: I choose /boot to go to /dev/sdc1 (flash) and mount that has /boot, and choose the option of placing bootloader on /dev/sdc, and second attempt /dev/sdc1
[18:58] <ChogyDan> causative: yeah, that's an issue
[18:59] <gimpygoo> what is the command to see what is running on your box?
[18:59] <zvacet> ChogyDan : after coming back to ubuntu graphic doesn´t worl properlly
[18:59] <ChogyDan> zvacet: make sure that linux-headers-generic is installed, and try reinstalling your graphics drivers
[19:00] <wolfygang> Hey guys when I try to install ubuntu I get a "panic occured, switching back to text console"
[19:00] <zvacet> ChogyDan: brb
[19:00] <ankur> Unable to get my external HDD working on ubuntu 12.04, tried googling, but didn't help.
[19:01] <th3pun15h3r> you trying to use the software to run it?
[19:02] <causative> ChogyDan, results of sudo lshw -C network http://pastebin.com/ByTEdEzk
[19:02] <harushimo> I just installed vmware player successfully on my ubuntu. Do I need to update anything else
[19:02] <c0dr> .
[19:02] <gimpygoo> what is the command to see what is running on your box?
[19:02] <zvacet> ChogyDan : headers where installed so I just reinstalled radeon driver
[19:02] <causative> ChogyDan, so is this telling me I don't have the driver for it?  maybe the driver was removed as part of the upgrade?
[19:03] <ChogyDan> causative: that's broadcom, not ath9k.  Right?
[19:04] <roothorick> I'm working on an ubu server based portable game thing, details not important
[19:04] <cakeboss> Hey guys. I have been messing around with python and I installed some modules (requests, json, etc). My computer died unexpectedly and now it is telling me the modules don't exist. I am guess that I lost some files. Is there any way to make sure I didn't lose any crucial system files?
[19:04] <ChogyDan> causative: I think so.  I would look into installing broadcom drivers.  I don't know about them; they seem to be a pain for folks
[19:04] <roothorick> when ubuntu boots, it sits at a blank screen with a blinking cursor for an insufferably long time and won't tell me what it's doing
[19:04] <babyswizz> I'm trying to get a program running and am told to "Then add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list file:
[19:04] <babyswizz> deb     http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org <DISTRIBUTION> main " how do i go about this
[19:04] <roothorick> how do I get a more verbose boot?
[19:04] <causative> ChogyDan, you're right.  So I must have had broadcom drivers previously
[19:04] <c0dr> NICK c0d3m0nk3y
[19:04] <causative> would the upgrade have deleted them, or if not how could I re-enable them?
[19:04] <ChogyDan> babyswizz: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and add that whole line to the end
[19:05] <zvacet> ChogyDan: ?
[19:05] <ChogyDan> zvacet: did it work?  try: dkms status
[19:06] <zvacet> ChogyDan: so I should reboot now?
[19:07] <ChogyDan> causative: it doubt the upgrade deleted them, but you have a new kernel.  Maybe you just need to reinstall them since they aren't opensource.  I don't know about broadcom stuff.  Try installing linux-headers-generic, and see if you can install them in software sources (if you are running 12.10)
[19:07] <zvacet> ChogyDan : also I don´t see xorg.conf in etc/X11
[19:07] <ChogyDan> zvacet: yeah, give it a go
[19:07] <causative> installing anything over the network right now is a little problematic
[19:07] <causative> I guess I could set that up
[19:08] <zvacet> ChogyDan: I´m afraid we will speak to each other again
[19:08] <causative> but is there any way to maybe download the module onto a USB and install from there?
[19:08] <ChogyDan> zvacet: dkms status    that will actually tell you if the driver is installed
[19:09] <ChogyDan> causative: have you tried booting from an old kernel?  that might work.  And sorry, I have NO experience with broadcom.  I'm just give general hints based on my exprience with nvidia drivers
[19:09] <causative> ChogyDan, problem is now solved
[19:09] <causative> I tried modprobe b43 and as luck would have it that worked
[19:10] <grendal_prime> ok, I have ntp.conf configured, i have traffic going out and comming back to the server asking for ntp updates. the damn box is just not setting the new date.
[19:10] <causative> so all I have to do now is add b43 to /etc/modules right
[19:10] <wolfygang> Hey guys, when I try to install ubuntu I get a "panic occured, switching back to text console" and then it just sits there
[19:10] <ChogyDan> causative: lol, ok.  Ya, something like that.
[19:10] <grendal_prime> this is a 12.04 server. i also have a 10.04 server on the same host doing the exact same thing
[19:10] <causative> thanks ChogyDan
[19:11] <grendal_prime> if i do ntpdate servername.  it works but..that is not the same thing as ntp service.
[19:11] <grendal_prime> this is rediculas.
[19:11] <bekks> grendal_prime: Whats the difference between the server time and the current real time?
[19:12] <grendal_prime> 10 hours
[19:12] <bekks> grendal_prime: Since that is far more than 1 hour, it will take a few days until that difference is eliminated.
[19:13] <grendal_prime> ?
[19:13] <grendal_prime> serioiusly
[19:13] <grendal_prime> i have reset it several times..it quickly jumps out of sync.
[19:14] <bekks> grendal_prime: Seriously. Thats how ntp works. It will NOT adjust the ntp drift to fir thos large difference.
[19:14] <bekks> *to fit those large differences.
[19:14] <grendal_prime> ok..thats what i always though but ive asked this question before and was told...that was bs
[19:15] <grendal_prime> so run ntpdate..get it close..then run ntp service.
[19:15] <bekks> grendal_prime: And of course you forgot to delete the ntp.drift file? :)
[19:16] <babyswizz> I'm trying to install a program and am asked to run a command "apt-get update" as root. what do i do?
[19:16] <grendal_prime> of course i did  because ive never had to do any of this before
[19:16] <rickycezar> oh my
[19:16] <rickycezar> =X
[19:16] <bekks> babyswizz: Run that. It will fetch package update information from the official repos.
[19:16] <grendal_prime> so delete the drift file before restarting service, or...what would be the order of execution on this.
[19:17] <bekks> grendal_prime: Thats what caused the jumps you experienced :)
[19:17] <HavingProblems> hi, I've done the updates on ubuntu 12.10 and now my dash and status bar have both disappeared
[19:17] <bekks> grendal_prime: stop ntp service, delete the drift, adjust using ntpdate, restart ntp service
[19:17] <OerHeks> babyswizz, use "sudo apt-get update "
[19:17] <HavingProblems> no sure what happened
[19:17] <grendal_prime> stop ntp, kill the drift, run ntpdate, strart service
[19:17] <Okarin> Hello, i'm having trouble setting up my wifi on elementaryOS (based on ubuntu 10.10)
[19:17] <Okarin> my card is a bcm 4312 (14e4:4315)
[19:17] <grendal_prime> got it thanks guys, sorry for the colorfull language ive just been beating this up off and on for a long time now.
[19:17] <Okarin> i want to use the b43 pkg
[19:18] <xangua>  Okarin /join #elementary
[19:18] <xangua> or it was #elementaryos ¿
[19:18] <grendal_prime> i have not found anything that even mentions deleting the drift file
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> Okarin  elemantary is not supportede here and 10.10 is eol
[19:18] <Okarin> xangua, MonkeyDust i'm already there..
[19:19] <babyswizz> bekks, when i ran it i got there errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/1370796/
[19:20] <xangua> babyswizz: sudo apt-get update
[19:20] <babyswizz> thanks everyone i saw my mistake
[19:20] <xangua> babyswizz: why you don't just use the tor bundle provided on it's web¿
[19:22] <bekks> babyswizz: you have to use sudo apt-get update
[19:22] <Okarin> apparently elementary is based on 12.04
[19:22] <Okarin> so anyway
[19:22] <Okarin> lets pretend i'm using ubuntu
[19:23] <Okarin> who can help me figure out why my wifi isn't working ?
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> Okarin  too late, we know you're not
[19:23] <Okarin> MonkeyDust, you can still help me --'
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> Okarin  we don't know how the elementary guys changed things
[19:23] <xangua> Okarin: you are not and as you were told before 10.10 is also no longer supported
[19:24] <Okarin> xangua : its based on 12.04 !
[19:24] <Okarin> not 10.10
[19:25] <xangua> you said it yourself...
[19:25] <Okarin> and i remember i got the same error with ubuntu years ago
[19:25] <Okarin> xangua yes and i was wrong, i checked
[19:25] <bekks> Okarin: wikipedia states it is based on 10.10
[19:26] <Okarin> i asked an admin
[19:26] <bekks> Okarin: However, it is no Ubuntu, and no official spin off.
[19:27] <cakeboss> Hey guys...so I just removed python to get rid of some errors it was throwing me from my computer shutting off....then my computer (While i was away) started removing literally all of my programs...I no longer have gnome and apt-get wont work
[19:27] <cakeboss> I cant back my data up
[19:27] <cakeboss> What do I do?
[19:27] <pikaciu> Okarin: what's the ifconfig ?
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> cakeboss  can you ctrl-alt F1 and login?
[19:28] <cakeboss> MonkeyDust: yes
[19:28] <cakeboss> MonkeyDust: I am right now
[19:29] <Okarin> what do you want to know about ifconfig pikaciu ?
[19:29] <pikaciu> Okarin: the output
[19:31] <dezine> Is it possible to enable user_xattr on a wubi install?
[19:31] <Mrenda2> When I try and install the additional fglrx AMD driver my system is stalling, what should I do?
[19:32] <Okarin> pikaciu, http://pastie.org/5402661
[19:33] <pikaciu> Okarin: try install  firmware-b43-installer
[19:33] <Okarin> already did that
[19:33] <xangua> pikaciu: Okarin /join #elementary
[19:33] <Mrenda2> Although now it's saying that the driver is in use, I still can't get my HDMI display to work.
[19:33] <arnsa> hello, how can I make bootable usb stick with ubuntu 12.10 on windows?
[19:33] <arnsa> unetbootin supports only 12.04 version of ubuntu
[19:34] <hash_> arg im still stuck with no sound
[19:34] <Okarin> and it won't work, my card is bcm4312, i needed the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[19:34] <xangua> arnsa: just open unetbootin and select the 12.10 iso
[19:34] <rlinsurf> Hello
[19:34] <arnsa> xangua but unetbootin supports only up to 12.04 version
[19:34] <arnsa> is it still okay?
[19:34] <Okarin> xangua, there is as much difference between ubuntu and elementary than between ubuntu and kubuntu, so now lets just fix my problem, which isn't related to ubuntu (it was doing the same thing on debian)
[19:35] <rlinsurf> I'm having an issue getting a black screen after installing 12.10
[19:35] <xangua> arnsa: did you already download 12.10¿ did you already open unetbootin and manualy select the 12.10 iso¿
[19:35] <never_ever2> hi
[19:35] <arnsa> xangua on the settings I can only choose versions of ubuntu which are up to 12.04
[19:35] <rlinsurf> I can't figure out how to get nomodeset
[19:35] <hash_> so i have audio devices showing up under lspci but not under arecord -l and my sound options show "Dummy Output"
[19:36] <rlinsurf> I was able to access the grub menu by holding down the shift key just as the screen went black. The instructions I read said to change to nomodeset, but no such menu appears. All I get is Ubuntu, Ubuntu in recovery mode, and other options having to do with Mac OSX. I chose recovery mode, and again, there's no option for nomodeset. I try the failsafe for graphics recovery, then return when Yes is highlighted.
[19:36] <designbybeck> Did anyone try the new Netflix solution? We got it to work on my buddies Ubuntu install, but now it opens Firefox in Wine each time you try to do anything with Firefox?
[19:36] <Mrenda2> Is the onboard AMD F2 A6 graphics supported by ubuntu?
[19:36] <wastrel> i thought they had a beta linux client
[19:37] <d4rkh4nd8> Hello i need  help im trying to make a new ubun tu startup / install cd. When i put in a blankcd it tells me can not mount something is already mounted
[19:37] <rlinsurf> I've also tried control-command-F1 to try to get a terminal. I got a grub prompt, but no command I entered was found, including all the ones listed it would recognize, much less sudo or apt-get.
[19:37] <ChogyDan> designbybeck you probably have to mess around with the defaults
[19:37] <rlinsurf> Anyone know how to get nomodeset during the first boot? Or how to enter terminal commands?
[19:37] <designbybeck> hmmm ChogyDan like the defauls as in default Settings?
[19:37] <ChogyDan> designbybeck maybe
[19:39] <oriondaz> hello
[19:40] <nitrohax> test
[19:40] <hash_> what might be the source of my lost sound card
[19:40] <oriondaz> hello
[19:40] <oriondaz> Excuse me
[19:40] <oriondaz> ANyone from India?
[19:40] <rlinsurf> hello?
[19:40] <netmk> i like naan, does that count?
[19:41] <oriondaz> er ok
[19:41] <oriondaz> well Im indian
[19:41] <oriondaz> and i want to help other fellow indians
[19:41] <netmk> a lot of you are indians
[19:41] <d4rkh4nd8> how to unmount what ever is taking my CR-R spot? So i can burn a  ubuntu isntall cd
[19:41] <OerHeks> !in
[19:42] <rlinsurf> I've been trying to get an install of 12.10 on my Mac Pro for the last three days. I'm sorry but I don't understand why this has to be so hard.
[19:43] <raydecampo> just did a new 12.10 install; I did not end up with the nvidia driver as I have before on this box.  How can I determine the proper graphics card driver to be using?
[19:43] <OerHeks> rlinsurf, did you check the mactel pages for your machine ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[19:43] <rlinsurf> yes, I have
[19:43] <rlinsurf> i followed all the instructions there.
[19:43] <rlinsurf> that's how I got this far
[19:44] <rlinsurf> thank you for responding :)
[19:44] <hash_> d4rkh4nd8, try this sudo umount /media/cdrom0/ -l
[19:44] <OerHeks> rlinsurf, ah oke, you have ubuntu running now
[19:44] <rlinsurf> no
[19:44] <Akiva-Mobile> On 12.10, how do I log in 2d? Nvidia graphics on this laptop is screwed up
[19:44] <rlinsurf> I was able to install it, but not get past the black screen.
[19:45] <rlinsurf> it said to hold down shift at the black screen to get the grub menu
[19:45] <OerHeks> rlinsurf, i do not own a mac, but did you try the nomodeset option ?
[19:45] <rlinsurf> highlight the first entry and change quiet splash to nomodeset
[19:45] <rlinsurf> right
[19:45] <rlinsurf> that's what I'm trying to do
[19:46] <rlinsurf> but the grub menu only says "Ubuntu" and Recovery mode
[19:46] <hash_> I thought it was esc to set boot options
[19:46] <rlinsurf> no options to change anything to nomodeset
[19:46] <OerHeks> press e to edit?
[19:47] <rlinsurf> OerHeks, ah "e"!
[19:47] <rlinsurf> which one should I do... "ubuntu"?
[19:47] <rlinsurf> and then it will let me change to nomodeset?
[19:48] <rlinsurf> can you tell me how to access a working terminal?
[19:48] <rlinsurf> I tried control-alt-f1
[19:48] <rlinsurf> that gets me a grub prompt
[19:48] <rlinsurf> but no commands are recognized
[19:48] <rlinsurf> even those listed as being acceptable.
[19:49] <hash_> Anyone know anything about no sound device
[19:49] <gonyere> rlinsurf: what happens when you select 'ubuntu'?
[19:49] <OerHeks> rlinsurf, after 'e'and edit the line with nomodeset, Press 'ctrl' + 'x' to boot
[19:50] <rlinsurf> ah
[19:50] <d4rkh4nd8> how to unmount what ever is taking my CR-R spot? So i can burn a  ubuntu isntall cd
[19:50] <rlinsurf> ok, i'll try that.
[19:50] <rlinsurf> thank you :)
[19:50] <rlinsurf> bbl :)
[19:50] <gonyere> good luck :)
[19:50] <rlinsurf> Thanks :)
[19:50] <gonyere> hash_ as in, theres none recognized?
[19:50] <hash_> Yes
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> d4rkh4nd8  try fuser -m or umount -vl
[19:51] <gonyere> do you know what yours is?
[19:51] <d4rkh4nd8> okay
[19:51] <OerHeks> hash_, opeen terminal, and type "alsamixer" .. press F6 to select soundcard ( if any )
[19:51] <arnsa>  When the reporter of c2050 asked about Ubuntu, Linus said, "I think Ubuntu crowd is a bunch or masturbating monkeys obsessed with KISS principle, forcing users to use the stupid command line." o.O
[19:51] <hash_> gonyere, I have an audio device listed under lspci but none under arecore -l
[19:52] <OerHeks> hash_, there is an extended sound problem procedure described here
[19:52] <d4rkh4nd8> arnsa: do you have a link to that ?
[19:52] <OerHeks> !sound
[19:52] <hash_> OerHeks, cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[19:53] <hash_> ah Thanks Oerheks.
[19:54] <lyyyy> hi all
[19:54] <jakepetroules> hey guys im setting up dependencies for my package and i can see libqt4-core as well as libqtcore4
[19:54] <lyyyy> quick question: I want to work using emacs in the terminal, but the terminal blinks too fast (the ttys). how can I lower the terminal blink rate?
[19:54] <jakepetroules> the former is listed as a "transitional package"… so which is correct to use?
[19:54] <notrin> hey there
[19:54] <notrin> my lcd keeps going black randomly, then coming back
[19:55] <notrin> suppose this is a driver or resolution issue?
[19:56] <altermann> hello there
[19:56] <hash_> the trouble shooting was the one i was using last night i used the: find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd and had a long list like it said, i did a reboot and still nothing
[19:56] <altermann> i have a quick question: is www-data (user/group) equivalent to apache or webalizer in other distros?
[19:57] <hash_> using the lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio" i get 2 audio devices listed
[19:57] <toddnjamie> I have a quick question. Can someone tell me how to enable my universe and multiverse repositories? So far the only webpage I've found to help doesn't make much sense to me.
[19:57] <SierraAR> Running Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit, fresh install. I can't seem to run apt-get update - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1370888/
[19:57] <blackness> hash_, is this a laptop ?
[19:57] <d4rkh4nd8> MonkeyDust: can i get that in english it out put all germen or something lol
[19:57] <SierraAR> Anyone know what programs could be running that are preventing it fro updating?
[19:57] <hash_> blackness, no its a desktop sound was working a few days ago
[19:57] <blackness> SierraAR, moment.
[19:57] <Froward> FWEEEEEP
[19:57] <blackness> hash_, pastebin the output of sudo lshw -C audio please
[19:58] <Akiva-Mobile> Wow 12.10 absolutely failed on this 4 year old hp laptop
[19:58] <hash_> and i know my cards not bad, logged on with windows with the welcome sound
[19:58] <trism> jakepetroules: a transitional package is just an empty package to satisfy dependencies, which happens when a package gets renamed, so the one you want is the libqtcore4, though the transitional package will install this
[19:58] <Froward> oh, sorry. I was summoned. Disregard this.
[19:58] <SierraAR> blackness, nevermind. Restarted terminal and now it's working
[19:58] <blackness> SierraAR, what windows manager are you running?
[19:58] <SierraAR> blackness, Windows manager?
[19:58] <blackness> yes, openbox, gnome, kde, ldxe, and so on.
[19:58] <jakepetroules> trism: thanks… how recently was libqt4-* renamed to libqt*4?
[19:59] <blackness> some Window managers have a "package update" in the taskbar notifying you of updates, but dont issue a popup.
[19:59] <grendal_prime> there is no drift file being writen
[19:59] <hash_> blackness, how do i pastebin outputs
[19:59] <grendal_prime> there was no drift file to delet
[19:59] <SierraAR> blackness,  Ah, can't remember off the top of my head. It's whatever comes default with 12.04
[19:59] <toddnjamie> I was wondering if someone could help me enable universe and multiverse repositories on my laptop..thanks in advance...
[19:59] <blackness> hash_, sudo apt-get install pastebinit; sudo lshw -C audio | pastebinit
[19:59] <blackness> SierraAR, then that would be unity ;)
[19:59] <grendal_prime> bekks
[20:00] <grendal_prime> bekks, dude tried that procedure..but there is no drift file to delete
[20:00] <SierraAR> blackness, yeah, that's it. Couldnt remember the name xD
[20:00] <blackness> SierraAR, i perfer gnome or openbox for my desktop env.
[20:01] <NetworkRenderer_> Hey, is someone else unable to do an Apt-get install
[20:01] <NetworkRenderer_> ?
[20:01] <trism> jakepetroules: doesn't look like * was renamed, just core, I see other normal packages that are libqt4-something
[20:01] <Zauberberg> Is it possible to disable the fast user switching in 12.10? I'm not sure if "fast user switching" is the correct term. I am referring to clicking the cog/power icon on the top right and getting the dropdown menu that lets you switch to another user in one click. Can that be disabled?
[20:01] <blackness> NetworkRenderer_, they reloaded the terminal and it fixed it.
[20:01] <hash_> blackness, it says you are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[20:01] <bekks> grendal_prime: Where did you look for that file?
[20:01] <trism> jakepetroules: no idea when it was changed, but seems to go back to lucid at least
[20:02] <jakepetroules> trism: what version is lucid
[20:02] <SierraAR> NetworkRenderer_, what's the error it's giving?
[20:02] <grendal_prime> in the same place the config file points to
[20:02] <blackness> ok hash_ try: sudo lshw -C audio, does this print anything out?
[20:02] <trism> jakepetroules: 10.04
[20:02] <jakepetroules> trism: k thanks
[20:02] <NetworkRenderer_> Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.5/mysql-common_5.5.28-0ubuntu0.12.04.2_all.deb  TemporÃ¤rer Fehlschlag beim AuflÃ¶sen von Â»security.ubuntu.comÂ«
[20:02] <grendal_prime> /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift
[20:02] <blackness> if its not -C audio, its -C sound
[20:02] <NetworkRenderer_> and some other temp errors
[20:02] <d4rkh4nd8> Anyone able to help me with cant read blank cd-r  MSG Error" Loacation already mounted .....
[20:02] <blackness> hash_, sudo lshw -C sound | pastebinit
[20:02] <blackness> that should give you sound cards.
[20:03] <grendal_prime> something else when i try and ntptrace this server that it got the proper time from (using ntpdate)  i get this...
[20:03] <hash_> its sound
[20:03] <bekks> grendal_prime: according to man 8 ntpd the default is /etc/ntp.drift
[20:03] <grendal_prime> ntpq: connect: Network is unreachable
[20:04] <toddnjamie> I need help enabling universe and multiverse repositories on my laptop. Thanks in advance.
[20:04] <hash_> blackness, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1370909/
[20:04] <grendal_prime> default config does not point to there
[20:04] <blackness> hash_, theres no driver for your sound card :/
[20:05] <blackness> did you change/remove any packages or configuration files?
[20:05] <grendal_prime> getting lunch...brb
[20:05] <hash_> blackness, uh not to my knowledge
[20:05] <xangua> toddnjamie: software center, edit, sources, others
[20:05] <hash_> blackness, how do i reinstall my drivers
[20:05] <blackness> toddnjamie, http://askubuntu.com/questions/148638/how-do-i-enable-the-universe-repository
[20:05] <toddnjamie> thank you!!!
[20:05] <blackness> hash_, give me a moment please..
[20:06] <blackness> hash_, what version of ubuntu?
[20:06] <hash_> sure thing
[20:06] <hash_> 11.10
[20:06] <Achillion> Greetings. I'm having some trouble getting grub-reboot to work. It doesn't seem to be having any effect. I'm on 12.04 LTS
[20:06] <synod> #pocoo
[20:06] <d4rkh4nd8> Hope this can get me some help lol    http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag79/D4rkH4nd/Screenshotfrom2012-11-19130438.png
[20:06] <srj235> The instructions for enabling the Uncomplicated firewall says to use sudo.  Is it possible to enable it without sudo?
[20:07] <Pici> srj235: no. Are you not the administrator of the computer?
[20:07] <blackness> desktop hash_ ?
[20:07] <hash_> Yes blackness.
[20:07] <srj235> I avoid it whenever possible
[20:07] <blackness> okay. lemme read this real quick.
[20:08] <Pici> srj235: a firewall is something that requires administrator access to maintain, so you will need to us sudo.
[20:08] <NetworkRenderer_> this is my full error-message when i try to get mysql-server: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1370924/
[20:09] <blackness> hash_, have you tried any of these ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[20:09] <blackness> follow the 11.10 sections.
[20:10] <hash_> Im doing it now blackness, thanks
[20:11] <blackness> Welcome.
[20:11] <blackness> im not sure how to manually load a sound driver..
[20:11] <srj235> I see.  At least I'm not directly modifying a script file.  I'll have to follow direct orders exactly on this one, but eventually no one has root access.
[20:11] <SierraAR> Ubuntu shuts down and boots up so much faster than windows 7 did XD
[20:12] <NetworkRenderer_> yeah the server-version faster than the desktop :D
[20:12] <Achillion> Is grub-reboot supposed to immediately reboot the machine or the temporary change supposed to happen on the next reboot?
[20:15] <dr_willis> i would say next reboot Achillion  --  what if you changed your mind. ;) you wouldent want it to do a reboot as soon as you do the command
[20:16] <Achillion> I just thought it might be a sort of substitute of the "reboot" command
[20:16] <Zauberberg> Is it possible to hide the log out/shutdown/user switching options from the system menu in the top right of unity in 12.10?
[20:18] <SierraAR> Is there a way to disable the 'guest session' option in 12.04
[20:18] <Evil_Eric> hey guys i got some real issues can any one help i cant install or delete samba with out it throwing tons of issues and this will be an exstended process to correct it so we might as well get a temperary chan for this so i can post whats going on
[20:18] <NetworkRenderer_> i know what happens :D
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> SierraAR  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tiphow-to-disable-guest-account-in-ubuntu-12-04precise.html  <--12.04, try it
[20:18] <NetworkRenderer_> I did change the interfaces - file
[20:19] <NetworkRenderer_> this caused some problems
[20:20] <SierraAR> MonkeyDust, thanks
[20:21] <Evil_Eric> if anyone feels like helping me fix a total cluster ---- over here please let me know
[20:21] <Evil_Eric> samba is ewwww
[20:21] <bekks> Evil_Eric: How about just telling us which problems you are experiencing?
[20:21] <Evil_Eric> bekks ok hold on ill pastebin it
[20:22] <DrManhattan> I switched over to ubuntu from centos a while back and I have to say, It's a way better distro and community
[20:22] <Akiva-Mobile> I should have stuck with 12.04
[20:22]  * DrManhattan has stuck with 12.04 since its release. Good stuff there.
[20:23] <Snane> why not 12.10? :o
[20:23] <blackness> i like 12.10.
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> Akiva-Mobile  backup first and fresh install 12.04
[20:23] <pranavk_> I followed this guide : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee but when running 'optirun glxspheres', it says that can't load the GPU, [ I am running NVIDIA GT4xx on my dell xps 15 ]
[20:23] <Petoj87> Hi, i have a question, im developing my own nfs(version3) server and tried to mount it in ubuntu(12.04.1) im mounting with the following command "sudo mount -o vers=3,soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,nosuid, 192.168.x.x: /nfs" and the result i get "access denied by server while mounting 192.168.x.x:".. but im 100% sure that there was no access denied the only thing i can think of is that im not running any kind of lock service, could that be th
[20:23] <Petoj87> problem?
[20:23] <DrManhattan> I havent messed with 12.10 yet. 12.04 has worked like a champ for me
[20:23] <Evil_Eric> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1370961/
[20:23] <Akiva-Mobile> This is rediculous. It eminds me of having to edit .xorg
[20:24] <DrManhattan> oe noes evil
[20:24] <pranavk_> Akiva-Mobile: there is no .xorg file in my X11/
[20:24] <Evil_Eric> thats what i say
[20:24] <DrManhattan> barak obama online net
[20:24] <Evil_Eric> i cant install or delete anything
[20:25] <Akiva-Mobile> Taking out unity 2d seems to be my problem. My screen is chopping itself up and sflipping and crashing
[20:25] <Evil_Eric> well not samba related anythings anyway
[20:25] <DrManhattan> samba rules.
[20:25] <pranavk_> are there any more tests that can tell me if my nvidia is working properly in ubuntu ?
[20:26] <pikaciu> Evil-Eric: what's the output of testparm ?
[20:26] <Evil_Eric> DrManhattan, samba does rule but not when its fouled up
[20:26] <Evil_Eric> pikaciu, i dont know gimme a min
[20:27] <Evil_Eric> and how do i use testparm
[20:27] <pikaciu> Evil-Eric: just type it
[20:27] <Evil_Eric> so testparm samba
[20:27] <pikaciu> Evil-Eric: just testparm
[20:28] <xxxx> hi
[20:28] <matt_> ubuntu 12.10 did show a driver for my grpahics card does it mean its already working?
[20:29] <xxxx> it is chat?
[20:29] <Evil_Eric> hey pikaciu im going to load the results to pastebin
[20:29] <Guest80377> ubuntu 12.10 did show a driver for my grpahics card does it mean its already working?
[20:29] <xxxx> -_- i never see it ahahhahaha
[20:29] <dr_willis> did show what where exactky matt_ ?
[20:29] <dr_willis> this is a support channel xxxx for chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:29] <DJones> xxxx: This is a support channel for ubuntu, if you want a general chat channel, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:29] <Bob-Wiley> Was wondering if anyone might be willing to chat about some ubuntu installation problems i cant seem to remedy
[20:30] <zoktar> So i think the bugreporting system is cloged up somehow, anyone have a handy link that could remedy this?.
[20:30] <Akiva-Mobile> Mmm 12.10 is a graphics disaster
[20:31] <Bob-Wiley> sos ive been trying to install 12.10
[20:31] <Achillion> Why does installing libiodbc try to install almost everything KDE related?
[20:31] <dr_willis> Had very few issues in 12.10 here with my nvidia system
[20:31] <Achillion> Why does installing libiodbc try to *UNinstall almost everything KDE related?
[20:31] <Bob-Wiley> and ive been mounting putting the iso on a usb drive....but it keeps telling me certain files did not copy correctly??
[20:32] <IrcDroidClient> Hola a todos alguien podría decirme canal desarrolladores de android
[20:32] <IrcDroidClient> Hi all anyone could say me channel android developers
[20:33] <martian> Is there a way to run program at startup (on a server) without using an init.d script? I know I've done it in the past, but I do not recall what I did.
[20:33] <zoktar> Akiva-Mobile, yeah closed source graphics drivers suck :(, then theres the impending wayland, wich will probobly be awesome, but having basic functionally crippled like this really puts a downer on previous hard work put into the whole user friendly enviorment.
[20:33] <Bob-Wiley> i thought ubuntu was know for its support community
[20:34] <Achillion> I guess it has it's quiet times
[20:34] <Pici> Bob-Wiley: We need details before we can troubleshoot.
[20:34] <Pici> !details
[20:34] <DJones> !alis | IrcDroidClient
[20:36] <Bob-Wiley> I will repeat them. I mounted Ubuntu ISO 12.10 to a usb drive....using the recommended usb software...and when i try to install 12.10 it says that the files didnt copy correctly and that i should try slowing down my burn speed
[20:36] <dr_willis> martian:  /etc/rc.local
[20:36] <Bob-Wiley> i have tried this with multiple usb's ranging in quality
[20:36] <Bob-Wiley> i have burned disks in the past
[20:37] <Bob-Wiley> ubuntu's filles always seem to get corrupted
[20:37] <dr_willis> Bob-Wiley:   can just 'dd' the iso file straight to usb and  have a bootable install image that way.
[20:37] <dr_willis> its possible theres some hardware issues going on. dmesg command output may give a clue
[20:37] <stefan2_> clevermnt
[20:37] <Bob-Wiley> dr_willis, i followed the websites recomendation to use their software...but it sounds like its worth a shot?
[20:38] <dr_willis> slower burn speed to a usb flash drive? or do you mean you have a usb optical drive>
[20:38] <dr_willis> Bob-Wiley:  theres dozens of tools at the pendrivelinux web site also
[20:38] <Bob-Wiley> no, UBUNTU assumes im using a burnt disk....so it recomends a slower burn speed. but it makes no sense since im using a usb
[20:39] <dr_willis> You are using that usb-disk-creator tool?
[20:39] <Bob-Wiley> yes
[20:39] <ToyImp> how can I recover my password for nickserv?
[20:39] <Pici> ToyImp: please ask in #freenode
[20:39] <dr_willis> ToyImp:  ask in #freenode
[20:39] <ToyImp> kk sorry
[20:39] <Bob-Wiley> for what ever reason, it works for linux mint like a charm every time
[20:39] <dr_willis> Bob-Wiley:  i tnd to use the pendrive linux tools or just image the iso straight to flash
[20:39] <Bob-Wiley> but everytime i want ubuntu i run into problems
[20:39] <dr_willis> Bob-Wiley:  you did verify the md5 of the iso file?
[20:40] <Bob-Wiley> i think there was a verify option on the mounting software....and that was enabled
[20:41] <peterpanks> ciao a tutti
[20:42] <Galvatron> Bob-Wiley Have you tried UNetbootin?
[20:45] <Akiva-Mobile> So repartitioning my external, and ubuntu screen goes black...
[20:46] <Akiva-Mobile> 12.10 might have just eaten my external harddrive
[20:47] <peterpanks> :!list
[20:52] <Pici> !floodbots | arcashaDev1
[20:53] <nomada> I have a problema with the Ubuntu dvd's delivereded
[20:53] <VlanX> apparently my 12.10 installation of ubuntu doesn't have 3D acceleration working properly. Can anybody help me to troubleshoot?
[20:54] <Nibinaear> I tried to setup Ubuntu one but it just says "Getting information, please wait.." forever. Does this ever stop?
[20:55] <Galvatron> VlanX: Which GPU?
[20:56] <VlanX> Galvatron: i'm using the integrated VGA on i5's processors.
[20:57] <VlanX> Galvatron: should be HD3000. When i start vmware it tells me that it can't find any 3D acceleration support on the host.
[20:58] <Akiva-Mobile> Question. Getting ubuntu installed for an old man wh has an old amd64 hp laptop.
[20:58] <Nibinaear> I tried to setup Ubuntu one but it just says "Getting information, please wait.." forever. Is this normal?
[20:59] <Akiva-Mobile> Should I just get him 12.04 32, or 12.10 64
[20:59] <lidongdong> 有人吗？
[20:59] <bekks> Akiva-Mobile: Why not 12.04 64bit?
[21:00] <Akiva-Mobile> Bekks just seemse that it is not recomended
[21:01] <Akiva-Mobile> Bekks as if 32 is more stable
[21:01] <dr_willis> If you got 64bit hardware. use 64bit OS
[21:01] <Steevca> Hi. How do i make a bootable usb flash ? Or how do install Unetbootin ? I am using Ubuntu 12.10
[21:01] <srj235> how do I hide?
[21:01] <dr_willis> Its reccomended as a form of idiot proofing.. if someone has no idea what 32/64bit means or what their hardare is.. then they suggest the failsafe option
[21:01] <bekks> srj235: duck :)
[21:03] <Steevca> When i select Linux-Unet. it downloads an executable.
[21:03] <dr_willis> select what from where?
[21:05] <Sach> I'm using Gnome classic in Ubuntu 12.04. I used to be able to mouseover on the weather applet to get details when I used 10.04, but now need t left click to see these details. How do I fix this?
[21:06] <babyswizz> please any good links on how a beginner can effective learn how to use python
[21:06] <Pici> babyswizz: #python would be a good start
[21:06] <dr_willis> python has to be one of the most documented languages in existance. ;)
[21:07] <cakeboss> Hey guys. I was in here about an hour ago. I ran 'apt-get remove python' and ubuntu started removing a bunch of system files (gnome etc) and now my computer can hardly work. I am able to log in and get to the desktop
[21:07] <cakeboss> what do I need to do?
[21:07] <iceroot> cakeboss: why removing python?
[21:07] <dr_willis> cakeboss:  reinstall ubuntu-desktop package woul dbe a good start
[21:07] <iceroot> cakeboss: its a very stupid idea
[21:07] <ElixirVitae> Hi!
[21:07] <Galvatron> VlanX: Try congiguring X, with "X -configure".
[21:07] <ElixirVitae> Is there a way to check when a new update was available.
[21:07] <ElixirVitae> All I can see from synaptic is the version name, I want the date as well.
[21:08] <babyswizz> pici, how is #python a link
[21:08] <cakeboss> iceroot: I know. My computer died randomly and it messed up python horribly (it couldnt recognize native modules)
[21:08] <cakeboss> So I thought I would uninstall/reinstall
[21:08] <Pici> babyswizz: its a channel. You're in #ubuntu, we do not do programming help here.
[21:08] <cakeboss> dr_willis: how do I do that?
[21:09] <babyswizz> pici, ok i get you now
[21:09] <iceroot> ElixirVitae: i guess looking with a browser on the repo and the timestamp when the package was created is one way, another is "apt-get changelog packagename" but when it was installed on the system is not that easy to find out, only with parsing logfiles
[21:09] <ElixirVitae> No I don't mean when it is installed, I can see it from apt/synaptic.
[21:10] <ElixirVitae> I want to see when a package was released, preferably without going to package maintainers' website
[21:10] <novaspirit> hi, trying to run a gui application script from lightdm.conf using greeter-setup-script. but it doesn't work
[21:10] <iceroot> ElixirVitae: apt-get changelog packagename
[21:10] <novaspirit> the gui application is onboard
[21:10] <dr_willis> cakeboss:  use recovery mode, apt-get install packagename
[21:11] <novaspirit> any idea how i can get onboard to start with lightdm-gtk-greeter?
[21:11] <ElixirVitae> It displays the same text from synaptic.
[21:12] <iceroot> ElixirVitae: and what is wrong with that information?
[21:12] <ElixirVitae> It does say the package version, yes, but not when it was released/made available.
[21:12] <cameron_> does anyone know of a program that will let me stream my desktop as a webcam?  (i want to go on tinychat/stickam/otherwebcamsite and be able to show my desktop like i would my webcam)
[21:13] <bobweaver> novaspirit,  yeah use the the little dude that is in circle that is in light dm menu
[21:13] <bobweaver> well pannel
[21:13] <bobweaver> top right
[21:13] <iceroot> ElixirVitae:  -- Adam Conrad <adconrad@ubuntu.com>  Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:17:02 -0
[21:13] <grendal_prime> bekks, ya there is NO file on my machine anywhere named ntp.drift
[21:13] <iceroot> ElixirVitae: that is the changelog from vim, is 27.04.2012 10:17:02 not enough?
[21:13] <grendal_prime> werid
[21:14] <novaspirit> bobweaver, it's not there. this is lightdm-gtk-greeter
[21:14] <dr_willis> cameron_:  'webcamstudio' i belive has thta feature and a 1000x more
[21:14] <ElixirVitae> Actually, let me try that with another package.
[21:14] <bekks> grendal_prime: What exactly happens when setting the time with ntpdate and starting ntp afterwards?
[21:14] <dr_willis> cameron_:  its not in the repos. ya got to get it from its homepage
[21:14] <novaspirit> bobweaver, i looked in the greeter.ui. and it's not in there either
[21:14] <iceroot> ElixirVitae: the changelog-syntax is always the same for every package
[21:14] <cameron_> dr_willis: i downloaded it and it never opened?
[21:14] <grendal_prime> doesnt seem to do anything. and the time does not keep up.
[21:14] <dr_willis> cameron_:  its worked well for me... You did actually install it? ;)
[21:15] <grendal_prime> next thing i know its 10 hours out of sync
[21:15] <bobweaver> novaspirit,  I do not know that much about light dm maybe if you tell it to start at all points in orca settings
[21:15] <novaspirit> bobweaver, would you happen to have a greeter.ui that i  can check with the xml layout of onboard?
[21:15] <dr_willis> cameron_:  it is written in java so it may need specific java versions
[21:15] <dr_willis> cameron_:  no need to msg me. ;) kepe it in the channel
[21:15] <ElixirVitae> Hmm, it is easy to see when I try it firefox.
[21:15] <cameron_> ahh okay
[21:15] <ElixirVitae> But not for chromium.
[21:16] <cameron_> dr_willis: so what do i need to do?
[21:16] <grendal_prime> and ntp is running i can isolate the ntpd process
[21:16] <bekks> grendal_prime: Could you please do the following and pastebin both the commands and their output?: sudo service ntp stop; date; sudo ntpdate pool-ntp.org; date; sudo service ntp start; sleep 10; date
[21:16] <cameron_> dr_willis: i went here, http://www.ws4gl.org/download/installing-on-ubuntu , and downloaded the .deb file
[21:17] <bekks> grendal_prime: type: it is pool.ntp.org
[21:17] <cameron_> dr_willis: all it does is hang at the screen and keeps loading
[21:17] <grendal_prime> sure will do
[21:17] <dr_willis> cameron_:  all what does?
[21:17]  * Evil_Eric screams and throws his laptop out a window 
[21:17] <cameron_> dr_willis: the program
[21:17] <dr_willis> http://www.ws4gl.org/download/installing-on-ubuntu  gives some addational directions. no idea how valid it is. the app is over a year old.
[21:18] <xsl> hello all, i am trying to increase "nofile" using /etc/security/limits.conf but wen i do ulimit -n it is still 1024
[21:18] <iceroot> ElixirVitae:  -- Ken VanDine <ken.vandine@canonical.com>  Fri, 07 Sep 2012 17:04:42 -0500
[21:18] <iceroot> ElixirVitae: i dont see the problem, as i said, its always the same syntax, always the last line under the changed
[21:18] <cameron_> dr_willis: yeah thats what i use, but it seems to not be working
[21:18] <bekks> xsl: Did you log out completely and back in?
[21:19] <cameron_> dr_willis: should i upload a screenshot and post here to show you what it does?
[21:19] <ElixirVitae> iceroot, that was way in the bottom of the changelog, I thought it should be near the top.
[21:19] <ElixirVitae> Many thanks~
[21:19] <xsl> it was a user that was not logged in yet ( www-data )
[21:19] <ElixirVitae> Found it as well.
[21:19] <dr_willis> cameron_:  you did careate a video group like the docs say?
[21:19] <iceroot> ElixirVitae: its always the last line for a changelisting
[21:19] <iceroot> ElixirVitae: syntax is version \n changelisting \n autor + date
[21:19] <xsl> bekks, i want to increase the number of nofiles that nginx  can open ( the user is www-data )
[21:19] <cameron_> dr_willis: it says not needed with 10.04, and since i use 12.04 i didn't think i needed to
[21:19] <ElixirVitae> I see.
[21:20] <ElixirVitae> And while I am at it, why is there so many PPAs for Chromium?
[21:20] <dr_willis> cameron_:  could add one anyway and see.. but I dontknow the gui way to do it in 12.10
[21:21] <cameron_> we'll ill try adding one and see if that works
[21:21] <cameron_> gimme a few.
[21:22] <dr_willis> cameron_:  some info at   http://ubuntuportal.com/2012/04/webcamstudio-virtual-webcam-apps-with-cool-effect.html  in the comments
[21:23] <bekks> xsl: And did you stop nginx completely before doing that change and restarted it afterwards?
[21:23] <cameron_> dr_willis: alright thanks i'll take a look
[21:23] <xsl> bekks, after i did the change i used su - www-data and checked ulimit -Hn and ulimit -Sn and nothing changed
[21:23] <xsl> let me see if nginx is stoped
[21:24] <loganrun> I am trying to send an e-mail from the command line, but no luck. here is what I am doing:::echo "<b>the test</b>" | mail -s "$(echo -e "This is the subject\nContent-Type: text/html")"  me@gmail.com
[21:24] <loganrun> does anyone know if there is a way to do this?
[21:24] <qxt> Normally I just use emacs when coding. Need to do some OpenBSD coding on my nix machine. Can propolice be integrated into emacs. Thinking about canaries like random, xor and terminator. Also need to look at stack-smashing protection.
[21:24] <qxt> This form *nix
[21:24] <dr_willis> be nice to see webcamstudio get officially in the repos., :) its a very nifty app.
[21:24] <grendal_prime> bekks
[21:25] <grendal_prime> bekks,  http://pastebin.com/gJERxquZ
[21:25] <JC__> anyone here well versed in arch?
[21:25] <Pici> JC__: in #ubuntu?
[21:25] <Pici> JC__: try #archlinux
[21:25] <qxt> JC__ why. You hate pacman?
[21:26] <grendal_prime> the irratating thing. ive done this before...
[21:26] <grendal_prime> and it eventually falls behind again
[21:26] <bekks> grendal_prime: Is it a vm?
[21:26] <grendal_prime> yes
[21:26] <bekks> grendal_prime: :D
[21:26] <haylo> grendel prime, oh hecky yeah, i have read almost all grendel comics
[21:26] <qxt> JC__ Arch is a damn nice distro. Just don't like the blobs in the kernel.
[21:27] <bekks> grendal_prime: Is it a vbox vm?
[21:27] <grendal_prime> kvm
[21:28] <grendal_prime> should that matter if it is reaching a machine on the outside.  it can ping them
[21:28] <bekks> grendal_prime: Then you are experiencing the fact that the time source is dynamic from inside the vm. Using vbox e.g., you could use the host as time source (vbox has an option to automagically sync the time from the host). Using KVM, I'm sorry for being out of clues.
[21:28] <grendal_prime> hmm ntptrace is not not resolving
[21:28] <kristenbb> hello, I'm trying to use usb on virtualbox. I added myself to the vboxusers group ( sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers kristenbb) and restarted the host && virtual machine, but it's still not working, what  else do I need to do ?
[21:28] <grendal_prime> sorry for the double neg
[21:28] <cameron_> dr_willis: yeah its doin the same thing
[21:29] <bekks> grendal_prime: Because KVM does not provide that capability while vbox does.
[21:30] <haylo> grendal_prime: maybe qemu would work better for your needs- it seems to be the VM that most debian devs use
[21:30] <guntbert> kristenbb: you'll find virtualbox support in #vbox
[21:31] <xsl> bekks, i even reloaded sysctl
[21:31] <xsl> its odd
[21:31] <bekks> haylo: And it is much slower than vbox e.q. - in my experience.
[21:31] <Sach> I'm using Gnome classic in Ubuntu 12.04. I used to be able to mouseover on the weather applet to get details when I used 10.04, but now need to left click to see these details. How do I fix this?
[21:32] <dr_willis> there was no need to paste me a bunch of error messages... i dont code in java.
[21:32] <bekks> kristenbb: Did you install the extension pack on the host?
[21:32] <k1l> Sach: iirc, there is no fix. gnome-classic is a cheap 2d fallback modus and not a whole gnome2 enviroment
[21:32] <cameron_> dr_willis: sorry, i figured u might be able to see something that i have no idea what it means =/
[21:33] <dr_willis> cameron_:  the program hasent been updated in ages.. so no idea.
[21:33] <Sach> k1l: so is this to suggest that gnome classic wasnt a fallback modus for 10.04?
[21:33] <Akiva-Mobile>  Amazon results almost seem as an anti feature right now. Besides that, what am I missing in 12.10?
[21:33] <cameron_> alright, well thanks for tryin
[21:34] <dr_willis> im still getting notifications of your error messages flood. ;P
[21:34] <k1l> Sach: no, its a fallback modus for gnome3 (gnome-shell) and is now removed for 13.04 because they use llvmpipe
[21:34] <Sach> k1l: thanks! I hate change   :-p
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> k1l  what's removed?
[21:34] <loganrun> how can I send an email from the command line to my gmail account?
[21:34] <cameron_> dr_willis: haha, my bad :p
[21:34] <amer> hi
[21:34] <iceroot> k1l: gnome-shell is the real gnome3
[21:35] <iceroot> loganrun: i would suggest to use mutt if you want a real mailclient
[21:35] <k1l> MonkeyDust: i thought the gnome-classic gets removed because gnome uses llvmpipie as fallback now and doesnt support gnome-classic anymore
[21:35] <dr_willis> the gnome-classic stuff is to get phased out of gnome  in the near future also. ;)
[21:35] <paris> Hi folks. I  have problem with gmail phone. Speaker and microphone Linux is able to recognize, but when I try to call, it seems everything is dead. I have installed google talk-plugin and nothing change at all. What kind of procedure I should undertake for that to fix it?
[21:35] <roothorick> loganrun: it's not so simple. You have to set up an MTA and try to get Google's servers to take you seriously. Uh, good luck!
[21:36] <k1l> iceroot: i know, but most users speak of gnome3 (when meaning gnome-shell). thats why i also use this terms to not confuse them
[21:36] <haylo> bekks: yeah it does seem awfully slow. I do like it that i can script it into my building process though, to automatically validate a system, or discard it
[21:36] <Sach> iceroot, so you do agree with k1l's response to me?
[21:37] <Sach> iceroot: so you do agree with k1l's response to me?
[21:37] <loganrun> roothorick, oh, they'll take me seriously or I'll kick their.... how do I set up MTA, I don't need anything complex
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> k1l  dang, i use classic
[21:38] <roothorick> loganrun: there's guides online for setting up stuff like exim or postfix... tbh I never got around to it myself
[21:38] <john38> Can anybody tell me the search directory for movie player exe
[21:39] <john38> the path?
[21:39] <loganrun> roothorick, I used to use fedora, and I think it was set up by default, I assume it is a standard package that has what I need,
[21:39] <iceroot> Sach: which exactly?
[21:39] <bekks> john38: There is no "movie player exe" on Ubuntu. All you have are zillions of different movie player, like vlc.
[21:39] <guntbert> loganrun: won't happen, nowadays mail servers expect mail only from the big registered mail servers (and from their own clients/customers of course)
[21:40] <Sach> iceroot: that I cannot fix my issue of not being able to mouseover my weather applet in Gnome classic in Ubuntu 12.04, as I did in 10.04
[21:40] <john38> bekks, what i mean is what is the path for movie player
[21:40] <iceroot> Sach: sorry i dont know i am not using gnome classic so i dont know
[21:40] <boohoohelp> hi
[21:41] <dreambox> when is Unity expected to be stable?
[21:41] <john38> bekks, standard that ships with ubunut?
[21:41] <TheLordOfTime> it is stable...?
[21:41] <bekks> john38: That strongly depends on the movie player installed.
[21:41] <loganrun> guntbert, not sure that is the case with gmail, worst case, it should end up in spam
[21:41] <dreambox> TheLordOfTime,  haha !!! good one :)
[21:41] <TheLordOfTime> dreambox, its pretty stable (12.04), 12.10's a different issue.
[21:41] <dreambox> TheLordOfTime, nop its not (12.04)
[21:41] <dreambox> TheLordOfTime, one crash per day = not stable
[21:41] <TheLordOfTime> dreambox, you're one of the few whining then, its worked for me and twenty other clients of mine
[21:41] <john38> bekks, totem?
[21:42] <loganrun> guntbert, besides superspamserver has no problem sending me email
[21:42] <TheLordOfTime> dreambox, if its crashing, is it asking to file crash bugs (you should do that if it asks)
[21:42] <gordonjcp> dreambox: unity is pretty stable, and 12.10 is a big improvement on 12.04
[21:42] <dreambox> TheLordOfTime, ibus crashed today.. yesterday chrome...
[21:42] <TheLordOfTime> or error reports
[21:42] <TheLordOfTime> dreambox, neither of which are unity
[21:42] <john38> bekks, what is the path for totem?
[21:42] <TheLordOfTime> dreambox, chromium's not Unity.  ibus isnt directly Unity either.
[21:42] <TheLordOfTime> s/chromium/chrome/
[21:42] <guntbert> loganrun: you misunderstood: most MTAs only accept mail from servers that are registered by ISPs, they will not accept it from a "home" machine
[21:43] <dreambox> TheLordOfTime, ok then, my Unity shortcuts are lost between sessions...
[21:43] <TheLordOfTime> so you're complaining about those softwares, not Unity.
[21:43] <loganrun> guntbert, is there a public mail server or something I can use, I don't want to use gmail server since you have to supply a password and I don't want that in a file
[21:43] <k1l> Sach: you cant compare 10.04 and 12.04. the 10.04 is using gnome2 and 12.04 is using a gnome3-fallback (which is not gnome2 even if it looks similar)
[21:43] <paris> gamil phone is not working, why?
[21:43] <gordonjcp> loganrun: whatever you do, you'll have to supply the mail provider with a password
[21:43] <loganrun> guntbert, as of a few months ago that was not the case with gmail, but things could have changed
[21:43] <dreambox> TheLordOfTime, on a 2-screen setup , you cant maximize windows to the 2nd monitor...
[21:43] <guntbert> loganrun: no, that would be an "open mail relay" - deeply frowned upon
[21:44] <TheLordOfTime> dreambox, okay, now you're whining, and i'm not going to respond to whining.
[21:44]  * TheLordOfTime returns to fixing his computer's partitions
[21:44] <dreambox> TheLordOfTime, I'm just demanding, I'm a power user, I want stability.. I dont have time to experiment.. :/
[21:44] <k1l> dreambox: report the bugs on launchpad
[21:44] <boohoohelp> hi
[21:44] <TheLordOfTime> what k1l said
[21:45] <dreambox> k1l, Will do
[21:45] <k1l> dreambox: everything else is not constuctive but just whining
[21:45] <gordonjcp> dreambox: for me, Unity has been 100% stable for over six months
[21:45] <TheLordOfTime> again, what k1l said :P  (you're whining, which doesn't help squat)
[21:45] <gordonjcp> dreambox: what have you had problems with?
[21:45] <dreambox> TBH I dont like the UI .. I dont think its efficient..
[21:46] <TheLordOfTime> then find a different UI
[21:46] <TheLordOfTime> again, you're complaining.
[21:46] <k1l> if you report the bugs with the needed infos the developers can take a look at the issues. but there are that much different setups that cant be all tested.
[21:46] <dreambox> being a UX designer I think I know my shit :)
[21:46] <TheLordOfTime> !language | dreambox
[21:46] <john38> Does anybody know the run path for Totem Movie Player
[21:46] <TheLordOfTime> john38, isnt it just running 'totem'?
[21:46] <dreambox> no worries I'm aleady installing Lubuntu :-)
[21:46] <gordonjcp> dreambox: hahahaha, lubuntu
[21:46] <gordonjcp> dreambox: hope you like reporting crash bugs
[21:47] <guntbert> dreambox: please keep in mind that you won't reach the people who make design decisions in this channel
[21:47] <john38> TheLordOfTime, i know but i need to know where its found usr/bin usr/sbin,.....urs/share..????
[21:47] <dreambox> gordonjcp, from what I read it's lot more mature than Unity...
[21:47] <dreambox> guntbert, I wonder where I'd reach them...
[21:47] <Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzz> #help
[21:47] <guntbert> dreambox: not here, and now please drop that topic, this channel is for support
[21:48] <k1l> dreambox: they wont listen to "omg i hate the ui, its no efficient" anyway. so dont think of bother them"
[21:49] <blz> Hello,  How would i use the rename command to prepend a string of text to all mkv files in a directory?
[21:50] <blz> I know next to nothing about perl expressions =(
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> blz  better ask in #bash, i guess
[21:50] <blz> MonkeyDust, I thought about it, but I believe rename is Debian-specific
[21:50] <blz> but maybe I'll try my luck =)
[21:50] <k1l> john38: /usr/bin/totem? or what do you want?
[21:52] <john38> kll
[21:52] <john38> k1l, thanks
[21:52] <dreambox> k1l, I've already pointed out my concerns in stack exchange, with reasoning, arguments and all.. (hell I could even make a mockup for'em)
[21:52] <dreambox> anyways !
[21:53] <k1l> dreambox: i think they are open for constructive critism. but that is not what you said in the channel here. so lets focus on the support topics :)
[21:54] <nedwed> hey everybody, pls help Im looking for file integrity software and I found tripwire aide afick and samhain, tripwire will be the best ?
[21:57] <iceroot> nedwed: the best is always "what YOU like most"
[21:57] <Sach> k1l: thanks for the clarification.  so is it possible to use gnome2 environment in 12.04?
[21:57] <iceroot> nedwed: so we cant answer that
[21:58] <Princeee> Hello
[21:59] <Princeee> Lots users
[21:59] <c0dr> ALLCHAN
[21:59] <Princeee> Is there any mods in here
[21:59] <bazhang> yes
[22:00] <k1l> Sach: no. because it has broken depencies to the gnome3 enviroment that is in the ubuntu repos from 11.10 on
[22:00] <dr_willis> Sach:  not really that i know of. theres some ubuntu derritives that may have it.
[22:00] <qxt> Is a stack-smashing protector SSP enabled in Ubuntu. Was implemented as a patch to GCC a while back. If nto I am hopping I can add it with -fstack-protector-all. What woujld be a good size threshold for SSP if I tune it with --param ssp-buffer-size=
[22:00] <Sach> dr_willis: suggestions?
[22:00] <k1l> Sach: if you want the gnome2 look back, try xfce or lxde
[22:01] <dr_willis> Sach:  i dident even see your original problem
[22:01] <dr_willis> if i want an old skool look. i use lxde
[22:03] <c0dr> REGISTER pycode
[22:03] <guntbert> c0dr: wrong window?
[22:03] <c0dr> oh yes ... was hoping noone saw
[22:04] <Princeee> anyone who will have a few minutes help me get started?
[22:04] <dr_willis> ;) the status/server window is the better place to do that.. in case you make a mistake
[22:04] <Princeee> someone i can bug by asking some noob questions
[22:04] <dr_willis> Princeee:  state the problem. see who can answer
[22:04] <qxt> Princeee ... umm what do you mean "get you started?
[22:04] <dr_willis> !manual | Princeee
[22:04] <Princeee> im just starting installing ubuntu
[22:05] <Princeee> thanks
[22:05] <Princeee> !manual
[22:05] <qxt> Princeee what do you need help with.
[22:05] <Princeee> nothing yet i am using the windows installer now
[22:05] <Princeee> i may be fine but who knows if i run into snags
[22:06] <guntbert> c0dr: this channel is publically logged :-)
[22:06] <toddnjamie> I'm struggling installing a different printer. I had a canon pixma mg2120 and I could not for the life of me get it installed, so I replaced it with an HP deskjet 3512, the instructions were super simple and easy, but it wouldn't work. So I'm going to try it manually. What am I doing wrong? Any suggestions?
[22:06] <Princeee> i downloading the windows installer now, couple minutes left then i try get it going
[22:07] <TheLordOfTime> unity-2d was dropped, right?
[22:08] <dr_willis> Unity-2d is no longer in 12.10   correct..
[22:09] <k1l> TheLordOfTime: they use llvmpipe like gnome-shell (gnome3) for 2d-fallback
[22:09] <TheLordOfTime> dr_willis, thanks.
[22:09] <dr_willis> toddnjamie:  i tend to use the cups web interface to manage pronters.
[22:09] <TheLordOfTime> k1l, i know that, i wasnt sure if they had actually dropped that package though
[22:09] <TheLordOfTime> :)
[22:09] <dr_willis> toddnjamie:  http://lcoalhost:631
[22:09] <dr_willis> toddnjamie:  http://localhost:631
[22:09] <OryHara> hi guys, I've got raspberry pi running on ubuntu through qemi and vnc, but I can't get my pi to connect to the internet and thus -- no apt-get, how can I get it connected to the internet?
[22:11] <andre_pl> im running 12.10 server and i dont have add-apt-repository or apt-add-repository even after installing python-software-properties
[22:11] <andre_pl> where did it go
[22:11] <toddnjamie> Thank you. Can anyone tell me how do I know whether I'm running 32 bit, or 64 bit? I'm not computer savvy....
[22:12] <dr_willis> toddnjamie:  lsb_release -a
[22:12] <dr_willis> !version
[22:13] <iceroot> toddnjamie: you want to know what you are using at the moment? or when you should use 64bit and when 32bit?
[22:13] <guntbert> toddnjamie: and   uname -a will help you distinguish between 64 and 32 bit
[22:13] <corvaxia> Am I imagining things or were there special Ubuntu ISOs built for mac hardware?
[22:13] <iceroot> corvaxia: there are special ubuntu versions for the ppc version of the apple jails
[22:13] <Princeee> !manual
[22:13] <clahey> Hey there.  I'm having trouble with my installation of 12.04.  When I try to log in, I don't get any unity menus or anything else.
[22:13] <iceroot> corvaxia: the new apple jails are using x86/amd64 so you can use the normal isos
[22:14] <zen933k> corvaxia: PPC yes. Apple Hardware is just PC hardware but over-priced.
[22:14] <iceroot> !mac | corvaxia
[22:14] <clahey> I suspect it's something in the home directory, but I don't know the unity code at all, so I'm not sure where to start looking?
[22:14] <iceroot> zen933k: overpriced + a jail
[22:14] <dr_willis> Hmm.. i dident think the PPC version was offically supported any more..
[22:14] <zen933k> iceroot: Sent from my MBP ;)
[22:14] <Nexuus> uname -a in a command shell should show something like: Linux <hostname> 3.5.0-18-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 19 10:26:51 UTC 2012 x86_64
[22:14] <corvaxia> True but I swear they had iso's that already included the Broadcom drivers so you didn't have to connect to ethernet.
[22:14] <dr_willis> Thought those disks were for the newer macs with  some bootloader differances
[22:15] <iceroot> zen933k: i am sorry to hear that
[22:15] <Nexuus> the x86_64 means you're running 64 bit.
[22:16] <w0rm-_x> 4
[22:16] <zen933k> iceroot: Don't be, in 2010 the MBP had the best battery life. Asus had the cloest specs but the same price...
[22:17] <toddnjamie> dr_willis, if I was supposed to find a driver on there, my printer is not listed. But I see through searches that other people have used my specific printer with my specific ubuntu, yet, their processes aren't working for me.
[22:17] <patr|ck> hello
[22:17] <toddnjamie> I'm not a good problem solver apparently lol
[22:17] <patr|ck> how can i convince grub from either 12.04 and 13.04 to detect the fedora 17 install?
[22:17] <boohoohelp> can someone assist with ecrypts ?
[22:17] <boohoohelp> I have a file path and password
[22:17] <escott> patr|ck, is it not seen by os-prober
[22:17] <dr_willis> toddnjamie:  check askubuntu.com perhaps - they tend to have some decent guides. could be you need the hplip package for hp printers.
[22:18] <boohoohelp> how do I uncrypt the private directory ?
[22:18] <patr|ck> escott, yeah
[22:18] <zen933k> patr|ick: Are you a Wizard? 13.04?
[22:18] <dr_willis> patr|ck:  if you knew what info to put in /etc/grub.d/40_custom you could make your own custom entry for it.
[22:18] <toddnjamie> I have already tried all that. I downloaded hplip.3.12.10a and tried automatic installation and a manual type installation, neither of which are working.
[22:18] <maujhsn> I am using ubuntu 11.10 liveCD for this session! The newness of this experience is nerve racking to say the least. I have a10.04.3 liveusb that needs a patch that will allow me to have internet connectivity. I'd like to download the patch with 11.10 liveCD. Please help.
[22:18] <patr|ck> i am tresting something on 13.04
[22:18] <escott> patr|ck, perhaps you dont have lvm installed. maybe install lvm and load it
[22:18] <X-warrior> So I was thinking to save some space on my backup hard disk, I think to create a script which will look all files looking for the same hash and use hard links to leave just one copy of them. But then I think probably there is some file system that works on this way on os level. Does anybody know the name?
[22:19] <toddnjamie> So far I've not been able to find anything on askubuntu to help me out.
[22:19] <guntbert> !#ubuntu+1 | patr|ck
[22:19] <kristenbb> how to delete a program and its home folder too?
[22:19] <patr|ck> i am not asking for support for 13.04
[22:19] <patr|ck> stop this nonesense
[22:20] <escott> kristenbb, apt-get purge package-name
[22:20] <patr|ck> escott, fedora is not installed into LVM containers
[22:20] <kristenbb> escott: I thought this wouldn't delete the home folder nor the global settings?
[22:21] <patr|ck> could it be that each distribution has an own format for EXT4?
[22:21] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: still no luck, huh? what was the result of the last run of install.sh
[22:21] <bekks> No.
[22:21] <bekks> patr|ck: No.
[22:21] <patr|ck> hm
[22:21] <kristenbb> escott: I thought this wouldn't delete the home folder but just* the global settings?
[22:21] <craigbass1976> I can't send mail through my server (postfix) and can't see any errors.  Where does a postfix on Lucid stick error messages?
[22:21] <guntbert> kristenbb: you mixed up "its (home) folder" and "config in my home folder"
[22:21] <ikonia> craigbass1976: mail log, syslog
[22:21] <escott> kristenbb, what do you mean home folder? the ~/.appname you have to remove that manually
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> patr|ck: no way, distros stick to the defs of the file systems standards. Its one of the great tings in Linux
[22:21] <Gnea> craigbass1976: tried looking in /var/log/ ?
[22:22] <toddnjamie> What do you mean?
[22:22] <patr|ck> i wonder why ubuntu cant detect fedora then
[22:22] <patr|ck> maybe it does not want to!
[22:22] <ikonia> why are you asking in here ? #ubuntu+1 is for 13.04's pre-alpha discussion
[22:22] <kristenbb> escott: is there no command to remove that folder along with the package ?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> patr|ck: have you tried manually mounting?
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> patr|ck: have you ran:  sudo fdisk -l    to list the partitions
[22:23] <patr|ck> read my comment close if you can: that problem is on 12.04 and 13.04 i said
[22:23] <craigbass1976> Gnea, ikonia I've been through most of /var/log (all of the mail* files) and don't see anything.  I looked in dovecot too, but didn't think that was the culprit anyway.
[22:23] <escott> kristenbb, no
[22:23] <toddnjamie> rednecktek, I replaced the canon with an hp deskjet 3512, research said hp had more drivers for ubuntu...
[22:23] <guntbert> kristenbb: no, remember linux is a multi user system
[22:23] <toddnjamie> rednecktek, so I gave up on the canon, went and bought an hp...now I can't install it, either!!
[22:23] <ikonia> craigbass1976: dovecot is nothing to do with sending mail
[22:23] <patr|ck> ActionParsnip, yes sir
[22:23] <craigbass1976> ikonia, I thought not.
[22:24] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: looking it up.
[22:24] <toddnjamie> Thank you.
[22:24] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: should be an automatic install
[22:24] <kristenbb> escott: and how does purge work exactly ? is it left to the developer to say where the config files of its program are ? or is there a way to make sure a program (and its components, config files, ...) is completely gone ?
[22:24] <VlanX> hello, how do i mount a smb remote folder on 12.04 ?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> VlanX: do you have nautilus?
[22:25] <escott> kristenbb, no package is going to remove stuff from $HOME ever.
[22:25] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: what is the output from: lpstat -p -d
[22:25] <zen933k> patr|ck: The only suggestion I have is to look through http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1985184 and see if some answers are there.
[22:25] <kristenbb> escott: yes I understood that. I was now talking about the general config files, those in /etc for example
[22:25] <patr|ck> zen933k, thanks
[22:26] <VlanX> ActionParsnip: yes, but maybe also CLI is good?
[22:26] <toddnjamie> would you like to me to paste to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> patr|ck: does manual mounting work?
[22:26] <patr|ck> ActionParsnip, yes
[22:26] <X-warrior> So I was thinking to save some space on my backup hard disk, I think to create a script which will look all files looking for the same hash and use hard links to leave just one copy of them. But then I think probably there is some file system that works on this way on os level. Does anybody know the name?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> patr|ck: so it can recognise fedora....
[22:26] <escott> kristenbb, i dont know all the details of debs. every file the application creates should appear in the debs, and are flagged as config or non-config. purge removes config fiels
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> X-warrior: rsync can do that for you
[22:26] <toddnjamie> rednecktek, want me to paste it to the page you gave me before?
[22:27] <ikonia> are you actually using the grub ubuntu
[22:27] <escott> X-warrior, search for dedup and it should list other tools
[22:27] <ikonia> as in is the grub ubuntu the one that's actually on the mbr
[22:27] <ikonia> or is it the fedora one
[22:27] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: last line should be enough
[22:27] <ikonia> if so running any grub commands from ubuntu is a pointless task
[22:27] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: is a default printer listed?
[22:27] <kristenbb> escott: in other words, if I do 'purge' and delete the config folder in my home, am I sure that there's nothing else from that application on my computer?
[22:27] <grendal_prime> haylo, kvm uses qemu as its core
[22:27] <maujhsn> I am using ubuntu 11.10 liveCD for this session! I have a 10.04.3 liveusb that needs a patch that will allow me to have internet connectivity For a new ASUS notebook 10.04.3 liveusb doesn't give me wireless connectivity. I'd like to download the patch with 11.10 liveCD. Please help.
[22:27] <escott> kristenbb, ideally yes
[22:27] <grendal_prime> bekks, http://serverfault.com/questions/132197/best-practice-for-system-clock-sync-on-kvm-host
[22:28] <X-warrior> ActionParsnip, I think it could preserve my hard links, but if I don't have it yet. How is it possible? I didn't find this option on it
[22:28] <MuNk`> clear
[22:28] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: it says default destination: deskjet_3510_2...recall, I have a 3512. There's probably part of the problem I'm assuming?
[22:28] <MuNk`> arg >.<
[22:28] <bekks> grendal_prime: :)
[22:28] <grendal_prime> there is something for this. its actually very simple to set up...just not documented anywhere. seems to be doing the trick just fine.  no need to even install ntp from what i can tell
[22:28] <manveru> hi folks, anybody know when a fix for CVE-2012-5371 will hit the repos?
[22:29] <haylo> grendal_prime: which is why i said to not bother with it.
[22:29] <grendal_prime> so i have ntp working on the host, and then set the clock source on the guests to the kvm-clock..wham
[22:29] <digitalvaldosta> -------------------------Does anyone know of a tool to test the ISP connection speed over a period of time? I have a customer that I service that has ubuntu 12.04.1 that has intermittent speed issues and have had their ISP "test" the circuits remotely.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> X-warrior: not sure there, is it listed in the man page?
[22:29] <ikonia> digitalvaldosta: no need for ---------------
[22:29] <KsM> digitalvaldosta: try mtr
[22:29] <X-warrior> escott, yes! I think that was the word I needed to keep looking, thanks! :D
[22:29] <KsM> erm, wait, thought you said connection, not speed
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> digitalvaldosta: could occasionally download a file from the site
[22:29] <grendal_prime> haylo, ?  quemu or kvm?
[22:29] <KsM> digitalvaldosta: nevermind
[22:29] <grendal_prime> have you used kvm?
[22:29] <SunTsu> digitalvaldosta: mtr or - if you need it in more detail smokeping
[22:29] <escott> X-warrior, rsync will do it with hardlinks with one of the options..
[22:29] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: nope that's probably fine. Cups usually just lists the base model (351X, dj9XX, etc). Have you tried printing?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> digitalvaldosta: or have them download a file get the speed and then delete it. You can report on that :)
[22:30] <escott> X-warrior, --link-dest
[22:30] <digitalvaldosta> Ok, I will check into those.
[22:30] <toddnjamie> Yes...nothing happens.
[22:30] <toddnjamie> I'll try again.
[22:31] <capeeKo> Hello all, I'm looking for some help with a bootup problem in 12.04 LTS
[22:31] <digitalvaldosta> The main contact at this place, she wants a detailed report over a period of time.
[22:31] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: I tried to print a document. Window popped up: "system program problem detected"
[22:31] <brandon420> Do you know where i can get a laptop without a os on it? or linux os?
[22:32] <k1l> brandon420: try asking in ##hardware or the #ubuntu-offtopic channels
[22:33] <forgetful> Apparently Dell are selling Ubuntu loaded laptops brandon420
[22:33] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: lets try something simplier. try running: system-config-printer
[22:33] <digitalvaldosta> So something that will check the speed at scheduled intervals and possibly output to a file or graph would be nice.
[22:33] <toddnjamie> in the terminal?
[22:33] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: in the terminal?
[22:34] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: yes
[22:34] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: it popped up my printers-localhost window
[22:34] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: there's an exclamation point on my printer lol
[22:34] <Billinthebox> ok helllo all, is there a guru in residence i hope?
[22:35] <seednode> Billinthebox: A guru in regards to what?
[22:35] <xangua> !ask | Billinthebox
[22:35] <Billinthebox> :) ok i am on a live cd , right now because i cant logon to my regular desktop
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> Billinthebox: what happens when you try?
[22:36] <Billinthebox> seednode:) ok i am on a live cd , right now because i cant logon to my regular desktop
[22:36] <Billinthebox> actionparsnip it just keeps recycling the logon screen
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Billinthebox: have your partiions got free space?
[22:37] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: arg. really glad I have an old printer. hang on. CUPS is not my strong suit. looking for info.
[22:37] <Billinthebox> actionparsnip yes its a brand new install
[22:38] <Billinthebox> actionparsnip i tried to logon to an alternate desktop and never could get back in
[22:38] <toddnjamie> ok. I'm sorry you're having to deal with all this. But you have no idea how much I appreciate all your help.
[22:38] <very> i found a style in xubuntu that is almost agreeable. but on some dialogs the text color is white which is unreadable on bright gray. http://i.imgur.com/y9kB7.png
[22:38] <trashi> hi, i installed a brand new ubuntu for a friend and didnt configure a password for his user account. is it possible to force him to set a new password if he boot the next time?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> Billinthebox: reboot to the installed OS and on the login screen press CTRL+ALT+F1 and login there, can you get fully updated ok?
[22:39] <gordonjcp> trashi: sounds like you want the OEM install
[22:39] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: I'm so sorry you're having to deal with all this. But I appreciate how willing you are to help.
[22:39] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: no problem. just working on servers anyway.
[22:39] <Billinthebox> actionparsnip i can logon to the TTY with no problem
[22:40] <Billinthebox> actionparsnip that what you mean?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> toddnjamie: tried a different USB port?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> Billinthebox: ok, can you get updated there?
[22:41] <capeeKo> I'm looking for help with a boot problem in 12.04 LTS.  It hangs at the Ubuntu screen w/ the 4 dots.  When hitting ESC to see the boot processes several things fail.  These include model connection manager, SMB/CIFC File Server, LightDM Display Manager, CPU interrupts balancing daemon, Winbind daemon & GNOME Displat Ma[OK] (blank line and at the end another [fail]).
[22:41] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: is there a "diagnose" button somewhere on the printer properties window?
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> capeeKo: what video chip do you use?
[22:41] <Billinthebox> actionparsnip i am using the laptop i am having the problem with, right now. had to throw in live CD
[22:42] <rednecktek> ActionParsnip: toddnjamie that's a good idea. Also removing/re-adding the printer seems to be a solution for some
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Billinthebox: fine, but in the TTY loginm can you get updated?
[22:42] <capeeKo> ActionParsnip:  let me double check
[22:42] <trashi> gordonjcp, well, i think oem is a little bit to fat for that .... isnt there an easy way to say "you need a new password... if u dont want to set a new one, shutdown your machine"? just for one time?
[22:42] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: no. there's not a diagose button.
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> toddnjamie: if you run:  lsusb   do you see the printer listed?
[22:42] <Billinthebox> actionparsnip i can try but i will have to dump thiis session to do it
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Billinthebox: updates may help
[22:43] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: hewlett packard? yes
[22:43] <Billinthebox> ActionParsnip system should be up to date
[22:43] <very> the albatross style in xubuntu seems to be unusable. http://i.imgur.com/y9kB7.png
[22:43] <Billinthebox> ActionParsnip i did updates the day before
[22:44] <Billinthebox> ActionParsnipi run update nearly everytime i logon, just to check
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Billinthebox: in the TTY try:  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[22:44] <wad> Three of my co-workers just got new Dell laptops. They are having a horrible time getting Ubuntu to work; they keep locking up and stuff.
[22:45] <wad> They've been trying 12.10, and have fallen back to 12.04 LTS. Now one guy is trying 12.04 with a newer kernel.
[22:45] <wad> They've been messing with various combinations of window managers and video drivers.
[22:45] <Billinthebox> ActionParsnip when i was in the TTY last time i kept getting a msg. maybe that will tell you something that helps?
[22:46] <Billinthebox> xxx@xxxxxx~$ [312.854880] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] sking for cache data failed [ 312.854957] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache : write through
[22:46] <Billinthebox> ActionParsnip xxx@xxxxxx~$ [312.854880] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] sking for cache data failed [ 312.854957] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache : write through
[22:46] <wad> Won't be long before they upgrade my laptop to the new one... then I get to run through the same gauntlet. Hopefully by then someone will have figured out the issue.
[22:47] <capeeKo> ActionParsnip:  ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> wad: are they ATi 2xxx, 3xxx or 4xxx ?
[22:47] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: any luck with changing USB ports or removing/re-adding the printer?
[22:47] <Billinthebox> ActionParsnip does that tell you anything that helps me?
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> capeeKo: try the boot option:   radeon.nomodeset=1
[22:48] <escott> Billinthebox, try ActionParsnip's chown command first. also "sking" doesn't sound right
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> Billinthebox: I'd fsck the partition in liveCD, make sure it is healthy
[22:48] <userZ> what if none of the live ubuntu cds will auto connect to the internet? realtec nic
[22:48] <wad> ActionParsnip, I'm looking it up....
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption  |wad
[22:49] <boooh> after installing windows the bootloader disappeared. what i have to do?
[22:49] <Billinthebox> escott supposed to say "asking"
[22:49] <userZ> I'm running the live cds off an empty hard drive, so no way to download driver files
[22:49] <faenil> hey guys, just a quick note...it's supposed to be all linux users here
[22:50] <faenil> if you do care about having a linux phone
[22:50] <faenil> please vote Jolla here
[22:50] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: no and no...
[22:50] <faenil> http://www.tosielamandiili.fi/peukutus.shtml
[22:50] <capeeKo> ActionParsnip: I'm a bit of a newbie, you mean to type that into the root command line, correct?
[22:50] <escott> Billinthebox, those messages sound inocuous. whatever you have plugged into sdb is write through
[22:50] <k1l> !offtopic | faenil
[22:50] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: wait...how do I remove, readd the printer? uninstall or reinstall??
[22:50] <faenil> k1l, I know, but this is about linux, it's important..we should join forces
[22:50] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: uninstall AND reinstall? lol
[22:51] <k1l> faenil: sry, but please stick to the guidelines.
[22:51] <faenil> alright...it was for us all
[22:51] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: right click on the printer in the Printing-localhost window and choose "delete"
[22:52] <forgetful> I'm new here faennil but I get the feeling it's purely for technical support not activism
[22:53] <Billinthebox> ok so if i pull up a terminal in live cd session can i access my permanent install with it? how?
[22:53] <k1l> forgetful: you are right on that feeling :)  that is why we have the offic channels
[22:53] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: ok...
[22:53] <Billinthebox> escottok so if i pull up a terminal in live cd session can i access my permanent install with it? how?
[22:54] <Billinthebox> escott ok so if i pull up a terminal in live cd session can i access my permanent install with it? how?
[22:54] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: it's printing a test page. note, it printed a test page when I first installed it as well, but would not print from any program on laptop.
[22:54] <unrar> hi
[22:54] <wad> ActionParsnip, They are: radeon hd 7700m
[22:54] <capeeKo> !bootoption
[22:55] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: one second while I try from libre office..
[22:55] <escott> Billinthebox, sudo chown was intended to be run from the tty, you can do it from the livecd but you have to find the path and the id number of your username
[22:55] <Billinthebox> escott ok so i gotta logoff then
[22:56] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: I think you just became my hero of the day...It's working..
[22:56] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: is it possible to tell me what we just did in case it ever happens again???
[22:56] <Billinthebox> escott sorry. total noob to this stuff. what will the chown command do?
[22:56] <manveru> anybody know when a fix for CVE-2012-5371 will hit the repos for 12.10?
[22:57] <wad> Billinthebox, chown changes ownership of a file.
[22:57] <escott> Billinthebox, the assumption is that you used sudo when you should have used gksudo and broke your gui by making root into the owner of ~/.Xauthority. this will reset you as the owner of all the files in your home folder
[22:57] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: very cool. thank the devs that make this stuff work, i'm just here for the coffee. My /guess/ is that it auto-installed incorrectly and cleaned itself up when you reinstalled it
[22:57] <forgetful> It might be worth installing irssi when you get on the TTY Billinthebox, so you can come back even if your Desktop still isn;t loading
[22:57] <ikonia> manveru: there is no alert at that ID
[22:58] <manveru> ikonia: it's referenced from http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2012/11/09/ruby19-hashdos-cve-2012-5371/
[22:58] <ikonia> manveru: yes, but it's not a confirmed bug yet
[22:59] <Billinthebox> forgetful apt-get install irssi?
[22:59] <capeeKo> How does one go about changing their boot option when they cannot get pas the loading screen?
[22:59] <manveru> who confirms it?
[22:59] <ikonia> manveru: read the link on the cve page
[22:59] <escott> capeeKo, boot the livecd
[22:59] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: I am very appreciative. My husband and I are small business owners and we REALLY had to have a printer lol. You have just made my day. After 24 hours of working on these things, I am so glad you were able to help me fix it. Thank you very much. :)
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> toddnjamie: what was the fix?
[23:00] <forgetful> Well sudo apt-get install yeah Billinthebox
[23:00] <dr_willis> capeeKo:  you can change things from the grub menu for one time 'ussage'
[23:00] <rednecktek> toddnjamie: SB-owner myself, so glad to help
[23:01] <danny> I'm trying desperately to calibrate my monitor color. I've downloaded all these ICC profiles, but to no avail.
[23:01] <manveru> ikonia: so we'll build from source, thanks
[23:01] <Billinthebox> forgetful ok thats a good idea i guess. lol ok how do i start it in tty after installing it and then get back here?
[23:02] <forgetful> You know how to use irssi Billinthebox?
[23:02] <toddnjamie> rednecktek: you absolutely have. You and your wife have a wonderful night (at least it's almost night here lol)
[23:02] <Billinthebox> forgetful nope
[23:02] <Billinthebox> forgetful noob
[23:02] <Billinthebox> forgetful me that is
[23:03] <Billinthebox> forgetful i could only guess its some sort or IRC command line client from cotext
[23:03] <playx> the Humble THQ Bundle is only for windows. damn
[23:03] <Billinthebox> forgetful context
[23:03] <forgetful> Start it with | irssi -n "your nick" and then /connect irc.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu
[23:04] <forgetful> Yeah it is a cli IRC tool
[23:04] <forgetful> There are lots but it's the only one I've used Billinthebox
[23:05] <Billinthebox> forgetful ok i am off to give it a whack
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> forgetful: I can give you my config if you want. It auto authenticates me and joins #ubuntu
[23:05] <capeeKo> ehh, I'm too much of a newbie.  I'm just gonna waste your guys times.  I don't even know how to get to the grub menu
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> capeeKo: hold SHIFT at boot
[23:06] <capeeKo> I think maybe I should just do a re-install.. I just wanted to avoid losing all my files
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> capeeKo: your backups will protect your files
[23:07] <forgetful> Did you see what ActionParsnip said Billinthebox? Sounds like a good idea to me
[23:08] <CounterForce> hi guys... I'm new to Linux/Ubuntu.... I installed the WiBu thingy... but at the bootloader when I choose for Ubuntu I get to a commandline  grub>
[23:08] <CounterForce> what do I do there ?
[23:08] <capeeKo> holding shift didn't do anything, it's just stuck at the boot screen again.
[23:09] <capeeKo> ActionParsnip: so if I re-download & install 12.04 LTS when booted in windows I won't lose my files?
[23:10] <digitalvaldosta> Butacheese
[23:10] <capeeKo> reinstall*
[23:10] <digitalvaldosta> DO NOT TYPE rm -rf / --- this is BAD!
[23:10] <escott> CounterForce, Wubi isn't too popular in this channel
[23:11] <dr_willis> capeeKo:  when in doubt.. backup improrntant files
[23:11] <mib_mbi> hi guys - my friend set up my ubuntu server as an http network proxy - i want to turn it off, but I'm not sure what he did - how can i find out if i know that its running on port 8888?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> capeeKo: no as you will have backups
[23:12] <bekks> mib_mbi: sudo lsof -i
[23:12] <ikonia> mib_mbi: probably squid
[23:12] <techspartan> anyone know of a free legal vmware image I can use for XP on 12.04
[23:12] <PippinW> Anyone one around that wants to try and help me solve an apache / mod_rewrite issue on my ubuntu server?
[23:13] <VlanX> techspartan: don't think that there is any
[23:13] <ikonia> PippinW: be aware of the guys in #httpd
[23:13] <bekks> techspartan: There is none, since XP isnt free to use.
[23:14] <techspartan> right...ok thanks
[23:14] <capeeKo> ActionParsnip:  Okay, thank you.  I think I will just do that as it seems easier.  I also won't eat up your time so you can help folks here that don't need their hand held through every instruction, lol.
[23:14] <techspartan> just thought I'd ask
[23:14] <capeeKo> Have a great Thanksgiving.
[23:14] <forgetful> techspartan, why can't you make your own? The free VMware player allows installation now
[23:14] <Help22> Can some one help me install ubuntu with vista
[23:14] <Help22> i  get error's  it says no root file system is defined, please correct this from the partion menu,
[23:14] <VlanX> Could anybody tell me why disabling journalling to save SSD writes is a bad idea?
[23:14] <techspartan> well I cant find my old copy of XP...and I tried to make convert my physical to a vmware img
[23:15] <techspartan> but that isn't working
[23:15] <dr_willis> you need to define where the '/' partion is supposed to go Help22
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Help22: you used custom partitioning, you need to tell the installer which partition to use for what
[23:15] <techspartan> in 12.04
[23:15] <techspartan> my windows part is win 7
[23:15] <dr_willis> Help22:  / is also called 'root'
[23:15] <Help22> ActionParsnip,  dr_willis  idk which one to choose
[23:15] <techspartan> I don't like booting into it
[23:15] <escott> VlanX, thats seems perfectly reasonable if that is your concern
[23:15] <dr_willis> Help22:  you re the one partioning your drives.. so we cant tell..
[23:16] <Help22> can you help me go through it?
[23:16] <dr_willis> Help22:  normally you make a  linux partion of type ext4 and a swap partiion.
[23:16] <escott> techspartan, as long as you have the number any image should be fine
[23:16] <dr_willis> Help22:  the installer has some automatic partioning options
[23:16] <VlanX> escott: having three VM's with EXT4, yes it does. Can i disable it w/out having to use EXT2 ?
[23:16] <mib_mbi> bekks: i see its running something in python on 8888, and it has this: ip-XX-XXX-XX-XXX.ec2.internal:8888->rrcs-XX-XXX-XXX-XX.nyc.biz.rr.com:61641 (ESTABLISHED)
[23:16] <Help22> i did that linux partion of type ext4, what do u mean swap partion
[23:16] <dr_willis> Help22:  then your linux partion will be the / for the mountpoint
[23:16] <escott> VlanX, the distinction between ext2/3/4 is not a bright line.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> Help22: you need a swap partition for suspend, its like the page file in Windows
[23:16] <ricket|web> My computer is a NIS client. How can I add a (nis) user locally with a custom home directory, so that I can still log in without an internet connection?
[23:17] <Help22> 0.o
[23:17] <dr_willis> Help22:  normally one makes a swap partion. equal in size to your ram typically.
[23:17] <Help22> can you help me do that ^^
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> Help22: so you need at least 2 partitions, one set as swap and the other set as / formatted to ext4
[23:17] <escott> VlanX, its perfectly valid to say ext4-journalling is ext3-journaling+extents or ext2+extents
[23:17] <dr_willis> theres videos and guides on partioning the disks   Why are you not using the automated partioning features?
[23:17] <escott> VlanX, to focus only on the high level features
[23:17] <VlanX> escott: however if i keep using EXT4 i would still have the beneficts of SSD compatibility, such as trim. So can i just get rid of journalling w/out too many drawbacks?
[23:18] <bekks> mib_mbi: The first column shows you which process established that connection.
[23:18] <Help22> dr_willis,  what auto partioning features?
[23:18] <mib_mbi> bekks: ah nice, now i can look at the process, thanks
[23:18] <escott> VlanX, if you disable the journal then you are disabling journaling
[23:18] <forgetful> Oh, now I know dr_willis - I guessed twice the RAM - still works but i'm guessing it just wasted the space?
[23:18] <dr_willis> Help22: the installer has like 3 options. 'install alongside' 'use whole disk' and 'somthing else..." (which lets YOU customize the disk partions)
[23:19] <dr_willis> forgetful:  dosent really matter much these days. ;)
[23:19] <k1l> tiwce tha ram is no needed nowadays
[23:19] <VlanX> escott: is it something that i write on /etc/fstab, right?
[23:19] <dr_willis> forgetful:  i got no swap on this system right now. ;)
[23:19] <escott> VlanX, etunefs
[23:19] <dr_willis> Help22:  my normal partion layout for widnows 7 --> (windows boot partion) (windows main partion) (linux /) (linux swap)
[23:20] <dr_willis> Help22:  dependng on your setup you do it how you need.
[23:20] <VlanX> escott: since you certainly are more wise than me, if having too many SSD write rates concerns me, would it be a good idea to disable it?
[23:20] <Help22> dr_willis all i saw on my otions was erase and install, encrypt, use lvm, and something else
[23:22] <escott> VlanX, if that is your concern then that is your concern. i cant say whether or not that is a good idea. that depends on how stable your system is and how much you value the security of the journal
[23:22] <dr_willis> Help22:  you may want to check out youtube see if they got some videos of the install process..
[23:22] <Help22> dr_willis,  do u have a link?
[23:22] <dr_willis> Help22:  exactly what did you download?
[23:23] <dr_willis> Help22: err... youtube.com
[23:23] <dr_willis> ;)
[23:23] <VlanX> escott: yeah, i think that tomorrow at work i can spend few time to understand exactly how journalling works. Thanks for your help dude :)
[23:23] <Help22> i downlaod ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386
[23:23] <dr_willis> Help22:  you have a single hard drive?
[23:23] <Help22> yes dr_willis
[23:24] <dr_willis> Help22:  if you allready have it partioned. You just need to tell it what partion to use for /   making a swap partion is also a very good idea
[23:24] <escott> VlanX, personally i wouldn't disable journalling.
[23:24] <Help22> i have 3 partions that show up C, D,U
[23:24] <Help22> but in ubuntu i have like 10 that appear
[23:25] <dr_willis> Help22:  linux does not use drive letters like that.. windows does not see  linux partions
[23:25] <dr_willis> No idea what 10 you mean.
[23:25] <Help22> how do i found out how linux views it?
[23:25] <escott> VlanX, if your SSD is any good it should notice the journal blocks are hot and do a good job balancing those writes across the free blocks, if its a poor firmware is going to wear unevenly anyways
[23:25] <Help22> because then i could tell you
[23:25] <dr_willis> Help22:  sudo fdisk -l    shows the disk layout
[23:25] <Help22> how do i do that inside of windows?
[23:26] <dr_willis> Help22:  you dont.
[23:26] <Help22> oh so i have to run my cd and then run it virtualy?
[23:26] <dr_willis> You could play with the installer inside virtualbox so you can figure it out.. Ive no idea why you dont see some automatic parttioning options. perhaps you overlooked it.
[23:27] <Help22> ok dr_willis  ill open it up in vm
[23:27] <VlanX> escott: yeah, that's exaclty what i'm afraid of. I don't want the same sector to be written over and over all day when the system is idling. Iostat shows like 10 GB in a week on the SSD and i'm only writing to the HDD drive.
[23:29] <escott> VlanX, i view any SSD i purchase for the next 5 years as a temporary performance booster and have no faith it will work. if it manages to save data across a boot its a miracle.
[23:30] <VlanX> escott: well, isn't that a little too pessimistic?
[23:30] <escott> VlanX, it also means i get a present every day that my computer boots
[23:30] <Help22> dr_willis,  when i run the installation in vm there is onyl 1 device and 1 device for bootloader installation
[23:31] <dr_willis> 5 years from now.. i hope my 128gb SDD is viewd as tiny and quaint. ;) and will be easially replaced by 128TB ones..
[23:31] <VlanX> maybe in the future the SSD technology will become more reliable
[23:31] <dr_willis> Help22:  since you only have one HD in the vm.. that makes sence...
[23:31] <Help22> oh.....
[23:31] <crazyharry> does anyone has the Nexus 10 yet ? I wanted to know how  a double column conference article pdf looked in it ?
[23:31] <Help22> so..... what do i do?
[23:32] <dr_willis> Help22:  practice the installing in the vm untill you figure it out.. that was the point of the vm.
[23:32] <Help22> i did it's simple just i don't know what all to choose in the real installation
[23:32] <dr_willis> Help22:  theres most likely videos on you tube showing step by step how to install and other guides. I dont have the install process memorized.. and my systems are all multi hd
[23:32] <Help22> oh
[23:32] <dr_willis> I recall a 'install along side windows' option... but i never do it that way
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Help22: 1 partition the same size as ram for swap and the rest for /, formatted ext4
[23:33] <dr_willis> or use the live cd. and partion your hard disk how you want.
[23:33] <Help22> that wasn't on mine,
[23:33] <dr_willis> Help22:  boot the live cd.. then come back here so we can help.. we cant do much with you in windows
[23:33] <Help22> dr_willis,  i don't get internet in the live cd
[23:34] <dr_willis> Help22:  and its a good idea to backup your windows stuff and other critical info BEFOR you  try to install
[23:34] <Help22> i have
[23:35] <ZeloZelos> if an applet fails to load (its an internet applet to allow a user to login to their bank)  is there a fix for it?
[23:35] <dr_willis> you could just install in vbox and experiment with the OS till you learn the basics  also..
[23:35] <goddard> can i encrypt something with a public key and keep my private key offline on a flash drive?
[23:35] <Help22> i have done that dr_willis
[23:36] <bekks> goddard: Thats how asymmetric encryption works, yes.
[23:36] <goddard> bekks: oh so like AES?
[23:36] <escott> goddard, yes
[23:36] <dr_willis> Help22:  reading up on how linux partions drives is a good idea. Its possible your windows disk has 4 primary partions allready made.. and thats causing the whole issue.
[23:36] <escott> goddard, AES is not asymmetric
[23:36] <Help22> oh.....
[23:37] <Help22> yeah there all labeleing with like nvidea
[23:37] <goddard> oh
[23:37] <goddard> escott: what is?
[23:37] <bekks> goddard: AES is an encryption algorithm, not a asymmetric encryption implementation.
[23:38] <goddard> oh ok
[23:38] <uiopqwer> is there a way to connect to a wireless network from the command line? i can do it through the NetworkManager Applet GUI.
[23:38] <escott> goddard, AES is a symmetric cipher. assymetric ciphers are provided by pgp/gpg and use large primes or ECC
[23:38] <escott> goddard, so RSA, DSA, and ECC
[23:38] <goddard> escott: ahh ok
[23:39] <Help22> dr_willis,  could i istall it through wubi?
[23:39] <escott> goddard, if you "gpg --help" the asymmetric ones are listed under pubkey, ciphers are symmetric
[23:39] <dr_willis> Help22:  i would forget wubi even exists....
[23:39] <Help22> why?
[23:40] <dr_willis> it stinks. ;)
[23:40] <Help22> how so?
[23:40] <dr_willis> Fragile. problematic. and next to impopssible to get help for when it breaks
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> Help22: its a pain to fix if you get boot issues and it is directly affected by the shortcomings of NTFS (Mainly fragmentations)
[23:41] <goddard> escott: rockin dude thanks
[23:41] <Help22> oh =[\
[23:43] <Guest24899> i want to delete user and is error: user currently logged in, im using command userdel -r testusername
[23:43] <ReAzem> How do you configure anacron to run things in cron.daily?
[23:43] <Help22> dr_willis,  do you think you can remote control my computer and help me set it up?
[23:43] <Guest24899> how to delete user in this situation
[23:43] <escott> Guest24899, kill the users processes
[23:43] <ikonia> Guest24899: you can't delete something while it's in use
[23:43] <k1l> Guest24899: so the user is still logged in?
[23:44] <sikklee> sup
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest24899: use:  sudo killall -u username    it will boot the user, you can then delete it
[23:44] <sikklee> sup all can you see my txt?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> sikklee: aye
[23:44] <sikklee> anyone running studio?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> sikklee: ask your real question and see :)
[23:45] <dr_willis> Help22:  if you cant get networking working.. how is that even going to be possible,,,
[23:45] <sikklee> is anyone running ubuntustudio?
[23:45] <bazhang> sikklee, ask a real question
[23:45] <Help22> dr_willis,  is there a way to get the network working?
[23:46] <sikklee> nvm....anyone used bakktrakk before?
[23:46] <dr_willis> Help22:  i have no details of how your network is setup. or what hardware you have.
[23:46] <bazhang> sikklee, its not supported here
[23:46] <dr_willis> Help22:  run a cable to the router untill  i get my sustem installed is what i normally do
[23:46] <rednecktek> sikklee: #ubuntustudio
[23:46] <sikklee> jus sayin has anyone used it
[23:46] <bazhang> sikklee, ask the backtrack people, and stop polling here
[23:46] <sikklee> #ubuntu
[23:46] <k1l> !backtrack | sikklee
[23:48] <Help22> hmm
[23:48] <phix> Help22: what's the issue? your network isn't working?
[23:49] <Help22> im trying to install ubuntu with vista and im having alot of problems
[23:49] <capeeKo> sigh.  I can't even reinstall.  I change the boot process to my USB drive & it tells me to Remove disks or other media & press any key to restart.  why the hell did I try to install sopcast & mess with my usr/lib files..
[23:50] <ikonia> Help22: it's a simple process, install vista, install ubuntu
[23:50] <phix> Help22: Try the basics first: 1) make sure everything is turned on and plugged in, 2) have you tried turning it off and on again? 3) what does ifconfig say? can you ping anything by ip?
[23:50] <Help22> my internet works in windows
[23:50] <phix> Help22: I recommend you don't install vista unless you enjoy banging your head against your desk
[23:50] <Help22> but not in the live cd of ubuntu
[23:50] <Help22> phix its already isntalled
[23:50] <phix> Help22: ok, how is your network setup?
[23:50] <Help22> my wireless usb to my router
[23:52] <phix> Help22: ok, in ubuntu you can click on the top left ubuntu symbol button then type in setting and then click on system settings
[23:52] <phix> Help22: in there you will see network
[23:52] <Help22> ok then what?
[23:53] <phix> Help22: can you see your wireless card there?
[23:53] <Help22> well i have to reboot
[23:54] <Help22> first to my live cd
[23:54] <Help22> ok
[23:54] <Help22> BRB
[23:54] <FloodBot1> Help22: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:54] <phix> and in there you should see wireless
[23:58] <capeeKo> Any idea why it telling me to remove disks or any other media when I change the boot sequence to my USB drive first?
[23:58] <dr_willis> its not seeing any OS to boot at all.. so its saying a generic error type message perhaps...
[23:59] <capeeKo> the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS image is on it..
[23:59] <dr_willis> similer to the days when you put a floppy in tha twas not bootable.
[23:59] <capeeKo> ya I get ya, it's just frustrating because I know there is one.
[23:59] <dr_willis> capeeKo:  perhaps you put it on wrong.. how did you put the iso on the usb>