[00:38] <len-dt> knome, That is a much more limited workflow.... about how I do things as a non-photographer for archive only purposes.
[00:39] <knome> sure, just wanted to share
[00:39] <len-dt> I too load direct off USB stick or From the SD port on my netbook. I do limited editing that is mostly make things the right way up :)
[00:39] <knome> didn't actually even read it thoroughly ;)
[00:39] <len-dt> It is interesting that he uses the proprietary SW that Brant uses.
[00:40] <len-dt> The other thing That was interesting (and I have found to be true) is how long an impression of some SW lasts.
[00:41] <len-dt> That is if I tried something a few years ago and it was bad, I feel the same way about that software now even though it may have gotten better.
[00:54] <knome> yeah
[01:20] <len-dt> Hmm, PCIe interrupts are interesting. They are sent over the same lines as the data it seems.
[01:26] <len-dt> I think I understand why PCIe sound cards may be a problem.
[11:49] <smartboyhw> Did anyone realize that actually the raring i386 images don't have -pae?:P I've reported this to apw...
[11:52] <astraljava> How to Enable PAE
[11:52] <astraljava> Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal, unreleased) and onwards
[11:52] <astraljava> The generic default kernel already has PAE enabled.
[11:52] <astraljava> I don't think there is a need for specific -pae flavor anymore.
[11:52] <astraljava> The above text is from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[11:55] <smartboyhw> astraljava, yep anyway...... 
[12:04] <astraljava> Anyway what? :)
[13:32] <scott-work> i have learned quite a bit over the last week about synfig studio. it is bloody amazing
[13:36] <smartboyhw> Hey scott-work good;D
[14:19]  * smartboyhw finds it weird that ubuntustudio-default-settings is in section gnome....
[14:28] <zequence> scott-work: How do our blueprints end up here? http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/
[14:28] <zequence> Since they haven't yet..
[14:29] <zequence> Do we need to register them somewhere?
[14:30] <smartboyhw> zequence, they need the Ubuntu Drivers to approve into raring....
[14:30] <smartboyhw> zequence, find skaet or any member of release team
[14:43] <scott-work> zequence: we need to talk to the release manager i would suppose
[14:43] <scott-work> normally this has been kate, although i am unsure what their plans are for the future, i.e. will they continue using status.ubuntu.com
[14:43] <knome> scott-work, there is no "release manager" :)
[14:44] <scott-work> knome: well, whatever kate's position has been
[14:44] <smartboyhw> scott-work, er kate's position is now obsolete right?
[14:44] <knome> scott-work, they will. you basically need somebody to accept the bleuprints for R
[14:44] <scott-work> a week ago or so i noticed that not many of the "flavours" were listed on status.ubuntu.com
[14:44] <knome> scott-work, it was the release manager. it's just that there isn't one this time.
[14:44] <smartboyhw> scott-work, the Ubuntu Drivers have the privellege right?
[14:44] <scott-work> smartboyhw: i am unsure
[14:45] <knome> zequence, just ask stgraber to do it for you.
[14:45] <scott-work> knome: i imagine the flavours that were already on status.ubuntu.com had leads that were already on the release team and could add their flavours themselves
[14:45] <smartboyhw> scott-work, 1. Xubuntu didn't, 2. We didn't and 3. Where's Lubuntu then?:P
[14:45] <knome> scott-work, that makes sense :)
[14:46] <scott-work> i think it was edubuntu (stgraber) and kubuntu (scott k i think)
[14:46] <knome> scott-work, but ultimately, there's quite many people who can accept stuff
[14:46] <knome> scott-work, yup.
[14:46] <knome> we should look for allowing flavor leads to accept their own stuff
[14:47] <knome> or in other words, be able to accept blueprints for releases
[14:47] <zequence> We're lacking a bit of administration rights withing this team
[14:47] <scott-work> was it scottk that had a head injury and wore a patch for a while?
[14:47] <knome> scott-work, at least didn't in uds :)
[14:47] <zequence> scott-work: Nope. that's the Kubuntu lead, I forget his name
[14:47] <knome> riddell
[14:47] <smartboyhw> zequence, wait Xubuntu didn't then:P
[14:47] <knome> jonathan
[14:47] <zequence> Yea, Riddel. He was wearing an eye patch at times
[14:47] <smartboyhw> Stephane Graber + Jonathan Riddell 
[14:48] <knome> zequence, we don't have the rights to accept stuff either. that's not what has been given to flavors
[14:48] <scott-work> yes, riddell! that's him
[14:48] <scott-work> knome: i would think we should be able to accept these things
[14:48] <smartboyhw> scott-work, actually I think riddell and graber are Canonical employees....
[14:48] <smartboyhw> at least riddell
[14:48] <scott-work> smartboyhw: i believe stgraber is as well
[14:49] <smartboyhw> scott-work, yeah
[14:49] <zequence> knome: We need to get an Ubuntu dev into our team(s). Or, one of us should become one
[14:49] <smartboyhw> zequence, /me agrees
[14:49] <knome> scott-work, i would do, but that's not how it has been done in the past, and we need to approach the DMB if we want to pursue that
[14:49] <knome> zequence, that doesn't give you the accept-rights yet
[14:49] <smartboyhw> workitem for this week: Target all blueprints to raring!
[14:49] <scott-work> knome: i would support this, should we work up an email together? send separate emails?
[14:49] <zequence> Well, one little step at a time, I guess :)
[14:50] <smartboyhw> scott-work, seperate is better I think. Tell Lubuntu and Mythbuntu's lead also
[14:50] <knome> scott-work, i have it on my todo, but if you have time to work on it, feel free to
[14:50] <smartboyhw> Lubuntu Lead = Julien Lavergne, Mythbuntu = ?
[14:50] <knome> smartboyhw, doesn't need to be a separate email. once we get things moving, they will be applied to all flavors
[14:51] <knome> smartboyhw, i already discussed this with cjwatson and he told to send email and it'll be discussed amongst the right people 
[14:51] <smartboyhw> knome, ah good:D
[14:51] <smartboyhw> That is a community win:D
[14:54] <smartboyhw> zequence, so how are you gonna simplify the blueprints eh?
[14:55] <zequence> smartboyhw: I'll start removing dependencies for blueprints that aren't nessecary to be completed for a specific release, such as docs, soft dev, etc
[14:56] <smartboyhw> zequence, I think you should try to simplify the workflows....As our school song says "All for each, each for all":P
[14:58] <zequence> smartboyhw: I want to tell you something though. I don't mind you having opinions, and I know you are young and eager to participate, but it is not very good of you to participate in communications where you are not assigned to participate
[14:58] <zequence> smartboyhw: I'm sort of handling blueprints, with scott-work having the last word. 
[14:59] <zequence> smartboyhw: I've told you this before. My advice is you find something you want to do, and focus on that
[14:59] <zequence> One soup should not have too many cooks
[14:59] <zequence> smartboyhw: Like testing docs
[15:03] <zequence> going home now.. (bb in 15)
[15:15] <smartboyhw> zequence, that is just a suggestion.......
[15:41] <smartboyhw> BTW zequence/ len-dt / scott-work try to book a session in the Ubuntu Developer Week here (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable). Don't forget to contact dholbach....
[22:32] <knome> http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2012/11/19/joining-the-darktable-side/ :)