[02:10] <tbcr> Has anyone had trouble with the netgear wna1000m adapter?
[02:49] <c2tarun> Hi friends, Application menu is not picking .desktop files from /usr/share/applications/kde4 folder. I manually have to copy files to /usr/share/applications. Why so?
[03:29] <jbtn123> anyone know how to get hedgewars to work?
[03:30] <jbtn123> or know hot to reload ubuntu application centre
[04:02] <nencinip> Hello :)
[05:04] <xubu> why is handbrake available on xubuntu 32bit, but not 64bit in the software center? i tried to install from the shell and it fail on 64bit, but works on 32bit
[05:05] <koegs> xubu: handbrake-cli/gtk is available on xubuntu 12.10 64bit
[05:05] <xubu> how do i install?
[05:06] <koegs> sudo apt-get install handbrake-gtk
[05:07] <xubu> i got an error: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[08:57] <Ankhwatcher> Hey there! I've brought my #Xubuntu laptop to work and it can't see the wifi.
[08:58] <Ankhwatcher> I've seen this problem before with #android phones, our wifi is on European only wifi channels
[08:58] <Ankhwatcher> how do I enable these in #xubuntu?
[10:05] <rory> Can anyone help me with getting hibernate to work on xubuntu?
[10:05] <rory> i've installed hibernate from the software centre...
[10:56] <unrar> hi
[12:52] <nashant> Hi. How do I start a program as root on startup, but it has to start after x11 has
[12:58] <mattyh88> hey, i'm trying to install the latest xubuntu on my computer. I tried installing it with usb stick at first .. but that didn't work .. it kept loading after choosing the language (for more than 90 minutes) So I tried burning the img on a dvd and installing it that way .. but that just did the same thing .. kept showing the loading icon after choosing the language (the computer didn't freeze). Why could this be? Whenever I click "quit install
[13:04] <TheSheep> mattyh88: try verifying the cd
[13:04] <TheSheep> mattyh88: there is an option for that in the menu when you boot it
[13:05] <nashant> TheSheep: don't suppose you could offer any hints on mine could you?
[13:06] <TheSheep> nashant: is asking for the password ok?
[13:07] <nashant> if I use gksudo, it asks for password. But then the program doesn't work
[13:07] <nashant> after giving the correct password
[13:08] <nashant> And anyway, I need to not have to use a password
[13:09] <TheSheep> nashant: is it ok for that user to be able to run that command manually without password?
[13:09] <TheSheep> nashant: if so, you can allow to run that command with sudo without password
[13:10] <mattyh88> TheSheep: I'm not sure if that option is there .. but i'll have a look tonight when i'm home again :) .. I know the option is there with the alternate iso file
[13:11] <nashant> TheSheep: Is there no way to get root to run it after X11 has started?
[13:12] <TheSheep> nashant: it's tricky
[13:12] <nashant> I'm not afraid of tricky
[13:12] <TheSheep> too tricky for me, I mean
[13:13] <nashant> Me and tricky have had a long standing, if slightly complicated, relationship
[13:13] <TheSheep> I know it is possible somehow, maybe, because the X server itself starts as root, but I don't have the time and will to investigate how to do it
[13:14] <TheSheep> I would look into other ways of achieving the same effect, whatever you are trying to do
[13:15] <koegs> what programm needs to be run as root permanently?
[13:15] <nashant> well I've tried adding my script to the lightdm.conf
[13:15] <nashant> droidmote
[13:15] <TheSheep> why does it need root priviledges?
[13:16] <nashant> not sure, I'd have to ask the app dev, but it definitely does.
[13:16] <nashant> Running as my user doesn't work
[13:16] <TheSheep> any errors?
[13:16] <nashant> nope
[13:17] <nashant> Just doesn't work
[13:17] <TheSheep> run it with strace and see what files it tries to access
[13:18] <koegs> is a "server", so you can use the simple autostart and sudo with NOPASSWD option
[13:19] <nashant> That sounds like what I need. Please expand a little, koegs
[13:22] <koegs> user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/truecrypt <- add this to /etc/sudoers at the end, replace user with your username and /usr/bin/truecrypt with the path to your binary
[13:22] <koegs> then you can use your pgramm with sudo and you will not be asked for a passowrd
[13:24] <nashant> ah
[13:25] <nashant> yeah, I don't really wanna have all nopasswd
[13:25] <nashant> I'll get on to the app dev again
[13:26] <koegs> it will be only for one user and one command........
[13:27] <unrar> brb
[13:29] <aajjbb> hi
[14:44] <dmart28> Hi there. Is anyone could help me with some kind of issue?
[14:46] <GridCube> !ask | dmart28
[14:50] <dmart28> Ok, thanks. I have downloaded xubuntu iso file of version 12.10, and trying to create bootable floppy with UltraISO. But it shows error that image is not in compatible format. It seems like flash is formatted in FAT.
[14:50] <GridCube> floppy?
[14:50] <GridCube> O_o
[14:50] <dmart28> ah, flash, sorry
[14:51] <GridCube> !unetbootin
[14:51] <GridCube> also just use unetbootin
[14:51] <dmart28> Thanks.
[15:05] <nikolam> have anyone actually tested 12.04 to 12.10 update process
[15:06] <nikolam> most of the icons in menus, panels applications are missing after update to 12.10
[15:06] <nikolam> First impression: looks very nice. second impression:  this f* sh* is so broken
[15:08] <knome> third impression: clean your mouth with soap or leave, this is a family-friendly channel
[15:09] <nikolam> word was familiy shell
[15:09] <nikolam> because I prepare this computer for few years of family use , thank you very much
[15:10] <knome> explanation not accepted. stick to the rules
[15:10] <nikolam> feel free to wash it too.
[15:10] <nikolam> all right
[15:10] <nikolam> upgrade procedure is so broken
[15:10] <TheSheep> nikolam: if you use custom themes and icons that are not there in the new version, then well...
[15:10] <nikolam> I actually do not remember when upgrade procedure in ubuntu in general worked just right
[15:11] <knome> haven't had too many people have those kinds of problems. do you have xubuntu-artwork installed?
[15:11] <nikolam> TheSheep, well I use what I have shipped with xubuntu and nothing else
[15:11] <TheSheep> nikolam: then I can only advice one thing
[15:11] <TheSheep> !bugs | nikolam
[15:12] <nikolam> not to mention panel is all messed up afte rupdate (panel addons in wrong places)
[15:12] <nikolam> will see it
[15:12] <nikolam> Bug in ubuntu is that updates generally are not reliable. and I suppose it is for lack of testing. And I am on Ubuntu since 6.10
[15:13] <TheSheep> nikolam: oh, you can help with testing too!
[15:13] <knome> +1
[15:13] <TheSheep> nikolam: http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
[15:13]  * knome is happy seeing nikolam volunteer
[15:14] <nikolam> TheSheep, life wind us on many places at a time. Sometimes we can do something bu other circumstances don't let us do what we want.
[15:15] <knome> nikolam, spot on there. that's also why xubuntu isn't perfect
[15:15] <TheSheep> nikolam: you complained about the general lack of testing, I showed you how you can improve it, I consider this issue solved :)
[15:15] <nikolam> I would not move from 12.04 i also actually always stayed with LTS for low network bandwith. I moved to 12.10 because of Btrfs support require newer kernel for Raid 1
[15:16] <nikolam> TheSheep, of course
[15:16] <TheSheep> nikolam: do you need further assistance?
[15:17] <nikolam> TheSheep, yes, I need to discuss release model of Xubuntu. Is general thinking "shipping when ready" or "follow releases time".
[15:19] <knome> nikolam, xubuntu, as a part of ubuntu, is using a time-based release schedule.
[15:20] <TheSheep> nikolam: that's excellent, as usual in open source, this kind of discussion is resolved by a process called "doocracy". We can't wait to see your improved rlease model of your xubuntu-based distribution.
[15:20] <nikolam> knome, I know that. :) time release. ok.
[15:21] <nikolam> TheSheep, I just ask
[15:21] <nikolam> TheSheep, That is enough to know.
[15:31] <nikolam> I am generally not sure I should put non-LTS release for long-time family use.
[15:31] <knome> if you are at all uncertain, you shouldn't
[15:31] <holstein> i do LTS's for the family... no auto-updates
[15:32] <holstein> thats more because thats what i use though... and its for my familiarity.. i wouldnt have any particular issues giving them 12.10
[15:32] <nikolam> holstein, why no auto updates. they are needed for security findings
[15:33] <holstein> nikolam: i like to go and update for them.. assuming they know nothing of the system, its just a popup nag for them that looks like something is broken
[15:34] <holstein> nikolam: you have to accept and install the updates.. also.. what if a kernel upgrade breaks something? i want to be there for that
[15:34] <nikolam> I would like to shortly explain to them that is normal and what it does.
[15:34] <holstein> nikolam: its a risk that i take, that i find more acceptable than auto updates
[15:34] <nikolam> holstein, that is true
[15:34] <holstein> nikolam: i found, in practice, no explanation worked...
[15:35] <nikolam> I had some kernel (few days long) functionality breakages in LTS over the years. Just few days long but also remembered
[15:35] <nikolam> holstein, i believe.
[15:35] <nikolam> I that case I wold set it to install without asking, quietly
[15:36] <nikolam> holstein, ever thinking of using next3 file system with snapshots or Btfrfs and snapshot system in working state to get back to in case..
[15:36] <nikolam> Btrfs
[15:36] <holstein> yeah, but why is the browser slow? and/or asking to be restarted? why is flash audio not working? "my computer said something about needing to be restarted, and now i get a blank screen"
[15:37] <nikolam> holstein, oh yes. it is myriad of daisies
[15:37] <holstein> nikolam: i have thought of using that.. i dont use that with family... i usually just try and get them putting things in dropbox... or i go and make a physical backup of things.. OR i setup timemachine like thing to a USB drive that they typically leave unplugged by accident
[15:38] <nikolam> I am not sure if next3 is actually available as boot file system for Ubuntu. Maybe it is there in some PPA
[15:39] <nikolam> holstein, do you set up remote administration fort such users? So you can jump to machine on request, log in and try to fix things from teminal?
[15:39] <holstein> for me, an out of date unix box behind a firewall with no ssh/ftp LAMP or other servers running on it, intended for a desktop user is safer *years* out of date than some other systems can be when left un-patched
[15:39] <holstein> nikolam: sometimes... depends on who it is, and what im going to be doing for them
[15:40] <holstein> nikolam: keep in mind, those users dont update any os
[15:40] <holstein> nikolam: they are the ones who didnt know what a service pack was or did.. or the ones that just dismiss the OSX nag as well..
[15:40] <nikolam> I was thinking just like that. To install everything they might want for a few years and forget about it.
[15:40] <TheSheep> please use #xubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat
[15:40] <TheSheep> thank you
[15:41] <holstein> nikolam: its a risk.. i take it... it gives a smoother experience i find.. but if your question is LTS or not, i do LTS because im familiar
[15:41] <nikolam> Ok, fair. I was just thinking preparing computer for family use was on topic. Ok it is not support per se. moving..
[15:42] <holstein> nikolam: we can move over there and discuss xubuntu 12.04 causual installation concepts if you prefer
[15:43] <TheSheep> thank you for understanding, seriously
[15:52] <nikolam> and yes, xubuntu-artwork was installed, but it seems like icon theme was not selected upon update. I can just suppose it was maybe because some themes got removed form 12.10 or something
[16:09] <nikolam> GridCube, Btw, that problem with moved addons in panel is solved by setting "expand" to separator.
[16:09] <GridCube> yes, thats to be expected
[16:24] <nikolam> I am kind of intuitively sorry to see those round blue dots on default xubuntu 12.10 wallpaper , not active and having some function . :)
[16:31] <cloudrf> i like my mouse wallpaper
[16:46] <nikolam> cloudrf, I have heard multiple people loved "birds" wallpaper in 10.04 (and 12.04)
[16:47] <cloudrf> i do like these computers i build
[16:47] <cloudrf> quite nice
[16:48] <cloudrf> 3.1 ghz triple core is what im running atm with 8 gigs ram 2tb hd
[16:48] <cloudrf> and a dvd burner
[16:49] <cloudrf> and connects directly to a tv
[16:50] <cloudrf> 500$
[16:58] <Gawam> Hi all
[17:06] <cloudrf>  amd triple core 3.1ghz 8gbs ram 2tb hard drive, and a dvd burner
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[17:22] <koegs> cloudrf: #xubuntu-offtopic is for general discussions :)
[17:22] <cloudrf> already..
[19:12] <malv> I changed some options in the Display configuration box and now XFCE overrides my amdcccle dual screen configuration
[19:13] <malv> how do I keep it from overriding?
[19:15] <malv> nm, figured it out
[19:16] <baizon> :)
[20:09] <razvan> hy there
[20:09] <razvan> is there an xubuntu tweak... program?
[20:10] <holstein> razvan: what are you trying to edit? there are settings in the menu
[20:10] <baizon> razvan: it depends what do want to tweak :)
[20:11] <razvan> i wanna strip down unneceserry services
[20:11] <razvan> like in windows
[20:11] <razvan> :))
[20:11] <holstein> i would look at session startup.. but this is not windows
[20:11] <razvan> i am new to linux
[20:11] <razvan> my first day
[20:11] <holstein> i would search and ask about exactly what you want.. if you want windows, i would load that up.. its not as important to strip down linux like that
[20:12] <holstein> razvan: maybe spend a while in it default.. think about how long you used windows "out of the box" before you started tweaking the startup
[20:12] <razvan> ok
[20:17] <razvan> ive got 1 problem... ive installed chromium...but when i click on WEb browser...a window with prefered aplication appears..  i choose chromium.......and it does the every time i wanna surf the net
[20:19] <ztxgpsman> razvan, go to settings manager, select preferred applications and for the web browser selection, use "/usr/bin/chromium-browser "%s" " when asked to enter the path. this should sort it for you
[20:21] <razvan> thanks a lot
[20:21] <razvan> :))
[20:21] <razvan> it works
[20:23] <razvan> but there is another bug i think..... why chromium asks me if i wanna make it the default browser??...and then it prompt again for prefered aplication :((
[20:23] <razvan> strange
[20:24] <ztxgpsman> razvan, np. yes the other one is strange let me think
[20:24] <razvan> is xubuntu 12.10 stable?
[20:25] <ztxgpsman> razvan, in the chromium settings there is an option to make it the default. is this set?
[20:26] <razvan> i set it default every time i click web browser
[20:27] <razvan> is just saying its not default browser
[20:27] <razvan> vey annoying
[20:27] <ztxgpsman> razvan, indeed, im thinking
[20:28] <razvan> second test..i click web browser again...it prompts for prefered aplication
[20:29] <razvan> dont say i have to paste this in prefered aplication every time
[20:29] <razvan>  "/usr/bin/chromium-browser "%s"
[20:29] <ztxgpsman> razvan, no if you set it as a preferred app strong it should stay there assuming that the setting saved
[20:30] <razvan> ive installed mozilla firefox when i installed xubuntu
[20:30] <xubuntu003> hi
[20:30] <razvan> is this the thing?
[20:30] <razvan> and then installed chromium
[20:31] <xubuntu003> can i install xubuntu in a pc with 200 mb of ram ??
[20:31] <ztxgpsman> perhaps in the preferred applications dialogue you have a drop down list with firefox and chromium available to select as well as "other"?
[20:31] <baizon> xubuntu003: i would recommend Lubuntu
[20:32] <xubuntu003> ok thanks.. it's good for my computer ?
[20:33] <razvan> i made a shortcut on desktop with chromium...when i click it and go in setting its says chromium is your default browser
[20:33] <razvan> but if i use web browser button it prompt for prefered aplication and to set default browser
[20:33] <baizon> xubuntu003: try it :)
[20:34] <razvan> strange
[20:34] <xubuntu003> ok I'am downloading it :-)
[20:35] <razvan> when i did this fresh install of xubuntu...first step i did ive unninstalled firefox...and then installed chromium
[20:36] <razvan> may this is the problem
[20:36] <razvan> with this preffered aplication annoying thing :)
[20:37] <ztxgpsman> razvan, not sure, id have to try that. perhaps pasting that previous command i gave into settings manager>main menu select web browser, then properties and paste it int the command box, save and exit
[20:44] <razvan> yeap after  pasting that previous command...1 my browser prompts for setting Chromium default....after second click on web browser prompts me for preffered aplication...yeap its a bug :)
[20:44] <holstein> razvan: i installed chrome... i just said "dont ask me again"
[20:44] <holstein> i didnt remove firefox.. not that that matters
[20:44] <razvan> i did remove it
[20:44] <razvan> damn it
[20:44] <holstein> sure.. i didnt
[20:44] <razvan> it was the firs thing
[20:44] <holstein> razvan: im just saying, i selected "dont ask me again" and its fine now
[20:45] <holstein> razvan: try and refrain from cursing
[20:45] <razvan> ok ok
[20:45] <ztxgpsman> razvan, lol i had assumed u ticked "dont ask me again" ....I shouldn't assume...duh!
[20:45] <ztxgpsman> holstein, nice catch!
[20:46] <razvan> it works
[20:46] <razvan> dont ask me again
[20:47] <holstein> razvan: also, you could try just using the system as default for a bit.. try ad remember how long you used internet explorer before you changed default browsers
[20:47] <razvan> that was all :))
[20:47] <razvan> i had to click dont ask me again :))..now that was easy
[20:47] <razvan> :))
[20:50] <razvan> for me chrome, chromium its much faster then firefox...and you can syncronize it with your gmail account...and it loads your bookmarsk and extension instantly...
[20:51] <holstein> im not doubting that.. and i use chrome.. im just suggesting a little patients while you customize
[20:51] <razvan> ok
[20:52] <holstein> i read once in a linux book 'nothing in linux is hiding from you'.. you have access it *everything* with the opensource software you are getting familiar with
[20:53] <TheSheep> holstein: chrome is not open source
[20:53] <holstein> this means, you change whatever you like.. you have only to find out how, and hopefully one of the volunteers here can always help you find out how
[20:53] <holstein> TheSheep: chromium and xubuntu are? correct?
[20:53] <TheSheep> holstein: well, yes
[20:53] <holstein> TheSheep: i didnt not mean to imply i, nor you , nor razvan should think it is
[20:54] <TheSheep> holstein: but not chrome itself
[20:54] <holstein> razvan: if you misunderstood. i am not saying chrome is opensource
[20:54] <TheSheep> holstein: and in fact you can't really look into chrome
[20:54] <holstein> TheSheep: cool.. i didnt mean to imply that, and i know i didnt say it
[20:54] <holstein> TheSheep: razvan is not using chrome
[20:54] <TheSheep> I just wanted to nitpick :)
[23:09] <nevercast> Each time I log in to XUbuntu
[23:09] <nevercast> I get more launcher icons on my bottom panel
[23:09] <nevercast> There is about 10 of them now
[23:09] <nevercast> If I remove them, they just come back
[23:09] <nevercast> Properties show that they do not point to anything
[23:09] <nevercast> Just empty launchers
[23:10] <holstein> nevercast: i would just lose the bottom panel if you dont want it.. otherwise, maybe a screenshot
[23:15] <nevercast> holstein: http://i.imgur.com/lxhpV.png
[23:16] <nevercast> Notice the empty launchers on the right
[23:16] <nevercast> If i remove them
[23:16] <nevercast> they come back
[23:29] <GridCube> nevercast, you dont have many icons, you can just delete the ~/.config/xfce4/panel entries