[00:33] I just got a really weird error about x11 missing some directories. I couldn't copy/paste or screenshot the error because my computer turned itself off after I got the error. I've uninstalled Nouveau and NVidia drivers, and uninstalled and reinstalled X11. Is there any way I can see if the problem is still there or not without knowing what those error messages were? === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw [11:28] Hello Everyone - I'm a newly installed 12.10 user and new to linux. I wondered if there was anyone who could help me diagnose a network problem I'm having today? [11:30] whats going on? [11:30] Hello Cairne [11:31] I've just clean installed ubuntu 12.10, and the network keeps flashing up disconnected. [11:31] Its a wired connection, and onboard network card [11:32] if I use the lspci command, I seem to be able to locate the device and it seems (not to sure how to tell) that ubuntu has correctly identified it. [11:32] if I run, ifconfig - I can see the two devices, the actual adapter and loopback [11:32] GandalfB, hello [11:32] lets look at this [11:33] the adapter dosn't seem to have an IP4 address [11:33] wanna output some stuff for me into pastbin? [11:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [11:33] lspci -vvv [11:33] its gonna be long, but I want to see all there is [11:33] that could be very tricky as that comp is not on network at all [11:34] ah. I see [11:34] well lets do this [11:34] is there a way to pipe it to text fire [11:34] the console output [11:34] *file [11:34] yeah. piping a text file is cat [11:34] let me see how to do that again [11:35] that way if I have to go, someone can help you [11:35] ok cheers [11:36] ((help is much appericated as I've not had much luck with multiple hours of googling)) [11:36] http://flossstuff.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/using-cat-command-in-linux-to-createdisplayconcatenate-and-append-files/ [11:36] its alright. its 3:30 here so Im kinda out of it [11:37] but I can help for a sec [11:38] ((help is much appericated as I've not had much luck with multiple hours of googling)) [11:38] oh sorry for the spam [11:38] :S [11:39] ok I have the output [11:39] just sticking it in that website [11:39] no hurry [11:39] so where in the world do you live? [11:40] dont say middle earth [11:40] okay, you can say it [11:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1372254/ [11:40] UK [11:40] Brighton [11:40] pasted away [11:41] when you go into the network manager does it list the device? [11:41] from a novice look at that text file, it looks like the driver has been loaded correctly [11:42] is that the screen titled network connections [11:42] ? [11:42] it shows wired connectoin 1 [11:42] GandalfB, personally Id hook it up to a cat5 and update the laptop then check for additional drivers [11:42] well to be fair. "Wired Connection 1" [11:42] its on cat5 [11:43] its not a wireless problem, its wired problem [11:43] so check for additional drivers to see if theres a wifi driver [11:43] does your router automatically assign ip? [11:43] yes [11:43] I'm using the same router for this windows machine [11:44] and I've swapped the cables [11:44] the closed source sinners like to live in the driver underworld [11:44] to see if its socket / router problem [11:44] and there is no wifi on teh machine either, its desktop, with onboard network card, 10/100/1000 [11:45] it feels it trying to get an ip6 address, and failing, becuase I don't think the router supports ip6 [11:45] thats my feeling [11:45] is there any way to test that theory?? [11:47] cairne, ^ [11:48] i'm trying to think how you would test that [11:49] usually its the wired connection that works without a hitch lol, what does gui network manager say about the card is it disabled? [11:50] it just says it was last used 3 days ago [11:50] and teh desktop keeps flashing up wired connection disconected [11:51] maybe its a faulty nic? [11:52] is there way to test that? [11:52] not sure for your hardware [11:53] sudo lshw see where the logical address is for your nic [11:54] should be under *-network then it will list the information [11:55] found it [11:55] what would I be looking for there [11:56] should say logical device for instance mine is eth0 [11:56] logical name: eth0 [11:56] is what I have [11:58] gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces [11:58] you can cat that [11:58] "put a cat on it!" [11:59] ok I run that command, I now have a text window saying [11:59] # interfaces(5) fire used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8( [11:59] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html [11:59] auto lo [12:00] thisis what i was going off of [12:00] iface lo inet loopback [12:00] might work changing lo to eth0 [12:01] NO! [12:01] nm needs ot to be lo [12:01] *It [12:01] * philipballew goes back to his paper now [12:02] so don't change anything? [12:03] well I recall that network manager needs that file to be like that [12:03] changing will mess up where you dont have any internet [12:03] so yeah, dont change [12:03] ok [12:04] philip@PrincessLeia:~$ cat /etc/network/interfaces [12:04] auto lo [12:04] iface lo inet loopback [12:04] im wondering if there is some odd bios setting? [12:05] GandalfB, id say its just a odd bug . how old is the laptop [12:06] probably made them mad when I said no. [12:06] its a dekstop - probally 6 years [12:06] if I buy a new network card [12:06] okay. so should work, but Id look at the model of nic to see if there is a bug [12:06] how do I install it? [12:07] beyond the physical installation [12:07] nothing [12:07] ubuntu finds and boots all the drivers for you [12:07] ok [12:07] so is there safe network card to 'buy' [12:07] and test [12:07] unless it doesnt have them ,then you cant use that. [12:08] I am not sure off hand. the internet might know somewhere or your loco? [12:10] I see what I can pickup [12:10] and report back in hor or so [12:11] brb [12:13] i will probably not be here [13:51] Hey all - just a quick update on my networking problem, a new network nic fixed it. [16:10] hey, is there a way to run fluxbox other that using "startx"? [16:13] Phryq: you should be able to choose it at login from the manager you are using.. i choose openbox in lightdm [16:19] I don't use a login manager, but maybe I'll install one [16:20] if I install one (SLiM) then the manager will automatically run? [16:20] or do I have to configure it to do so? [16:21] Phryq: i had issues with slim, and assumed it was on my end.. typically, you choose in the GUI and that choice is remembered [17:00] ok; well I've just installed slim; so I'll restart and see what happens === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:15] Hi all...just installed ubuntu and got xchat up...still trying to learn linux and hope I can hang out and learn/contribute :-D [19:23] HeavyWater: welcome.. check out the OT channel as well.. #ubuntu-beginners-team [19:23] thanks holstein...will do === glebihan_ is now known as glebihan [19:40] hi [23:12] Hello All - thank you for the help this morning, is there any chance I can tap someone's brains tonight?