[00:00] <capeeKo> copy/paste, like I've done in the past
[00:00] <dr_willis> capeeKo:  err.... thats putting it on wrong...
[00:00] <dr_willis> you should NOT have a file called whatever.iso on the usb
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> capeeKo: use unetbootin
[00:01] <capeeKo> that a program that extracts the image onto the drive?
[00:01] <dr_willis> unetbootin is one of many. theres others listed at the pendrivelinux web site
[00:02] <dr_willis> some of those can boot a .iso file from the usb. ;) so you can make multiboot usb sticks
[00:02] <capeeKo> ok.  thanks guys.  maybe I'm mistaken about it working in the past, it's been a while & classes have my head all mixed up lol
[00:03] <dr_willis> You have never just drag/dropped an iso file to a usb and have it work...
[00:03] <capeeKo> I'll do that & try again, hopefully I won't bug you guys anymore :P
[00:03] <Gabe> hi
[00:03] <dr_willis> that dosent put any sort of bootloader on the usb
[00:04] <Gabe> so, I'm sorta new to linux and I when I installed MyUnity on Ubuntu 12.10 it messed up the files and now the're hidden on the laucher and they look like pieces of paper on the dash home. Any help would be great. I don't really feel like installing it all over again :x
[00:06] <megamanx1978> I am having sound problems please help
[00:06] <dr_willis> make a new user - see if they have the same issue.. if a new user works.. then its your problem users config files that are to blame.. reset them all.
[00:06] <bazhang> !info myunity | Gabe
[00:06] <ubottu> Gabe: Package myunity does not exist in quantal
[00:07] <bazhang> Gabe, there's no myunity for 12.10
[00:07] <dr_willis> Gabe:  some times these tweak tools have 'reset settings back to default' features.
[00:07] <bazhang> !sound | megamanx1978
[00:07] <ubottu> megamanx1978: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[00:09] <megamanx1978> I am not getting sound at all
[00:09] <megamanx1978> Checked volume
[00:09] <mens> TWINKLE:   HowTo hide user identity and to add	P-Preferred-Identity header?   (in private).
[00:10] <bazhang> mens,  ask in freenode about a cloak
[00:10] <bazhang> mens   /join #freenode
[00:10] <mens> <bazhang> ok, ty :-)
[00:12] <elisa87> Do you know what I should do? vivado: Cannot mkdir: Disk quota exceeded
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> elisa87: query your quota limits, see what you have breached
[00:13] <Gabe> I'll just try and restart it >.<
[00:13] <elisa87> ActionParsnip how can I do it? I am a hardware person
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> elisa87: run: repquota -a
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[00:15] <elisa87> ActionParsnip nothing happened ! [jalal@helena] (1)$ repquota -a
[00:16] <gunarm1> whats the deal with this "UUID" with colons instead of dashes that comes out when i do # sudo mdadm --detail --scan # is that still a uuid?  Can I put it in fstab?
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> elisa87: prefix it with sudo
[00:17] <elisa87> jalal is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. Because I am just a student! is there any other way ? I have to install Xilinx on my machine
[00:17] <elisa87> ActionParsnip jalal is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. Because I am just a student! is there any other way ? I have to install Xilinx on my machin
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> elisa87: only admins can view the quota reports as far as I know
[00:18] <ikonia> elisa87: what does being a student have to do with not being in the sudoers file ?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> elisa87: if you have an account that can use sudo, I suggest you su to it
[00:18] <elisa87> our department is really restrictive on the machines we use in the labs!
[00:18] <megamanx1978> Is there a way to set my default volume?
[00:19] <elisa87> Can I make myself sudoer btw? because this new computer was given to me today given that I have the right to be sudoer,....seems not working
[00:19] <megamanx1978> Or set my volume with the terminal?
[00:19] <ikonia> elisa87: ask the guy who set it up to you
[00:19] <ikonia> set it up for you
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> elisa87: try:  quota -u $USER
[00:19] <ikonia> elisa87: he's not configured your user account correctly
[00:20] <frodriguez> hola
[00:21] <frodriguez> aloo
[00:21] <genio_> في عرب هنا ؟
[00:21] <lollko> lolz
[00:21] <lollko> genio_: eng
[00:21] <elisa87> [jalal@helena] (3)$ quota -u $USER nothing happens!
[00:21] <frodriguez> alo ?
[00:21] <frodriguez> algun latino
[00:21] <frodriguez> ?
[00:22] <genio_> i mean any one here speek arabic :D
[00:22] <SeLEct> Hello, i just installed github with apt-get install github-cli. but when i type git. i get this? -bash: git: command not found
[00:23] <ClientAlive> is there a way to tell ubuntu that eclipse is insatalled? I installed it outside of the ubuntu repository so I could get a newer version. Now, when I try to run an eclipse command to change a setting (on the command line) I get "The program 'eclipse' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing sudo apt-get install eclipse-platform". But it is installed. I've been using it.
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> !arabic
[00:23] <ubottu> For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية
[00:23] <genio_> thanks
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: is the program in your $PATH ?
[00:23] <ikonia> ClientAlive: adjust your $PATH to include the directory you installed eclipse in
[00:24] <elisa87> ActionParsnip what does this exactly mean? [jalal@helena] (3)$ fs listquota
[00:24] <elisa87> Volume Name                    Quota       Used %Used   Partition
[00:24] <elisa87> u.jalal                     20000000   20000003  100%<<       85%    <<WARNING
[00:24] <frodriguez> holaa
[00:24] <frodriguez> hola
[00:24] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: ikonia: it is installed to /opt/eclipse. I did try cd /opt/eclipse then execute the command but I get the same message.
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> elisa87: you have a soft limit at 85% and a hard limit of 100%, you will get warnings over 85%
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: did you use:   ./eclipse
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: the ./   bit is important
[00:25] <elisa87> so it doesn't show much much space I have? like how many GB? ActionParsnip
[00:25] <dean__> Hi I was wondering if someone could tell me if there is a program that allows you to edit a mp3 track to cut bits off and that?
[00:26] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: you mean to put that before the command?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: yes, so that the file in the pwd is used.
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: the pwd is NOT in $PATH for security reasons
[00:27] <jimmyk> Hi, I'm wondering if someone can help me figure out why the same UUID is being assigned to two different physical volumes
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> elisa87: looks like you have a 150Mb limit on storage (if I'm reading it right)
[00:27] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: Ok, this is the command I'm trying to run: "eclipse-vmargs-Xmx1024m" So it should be "./eclipse-vmargs-Xmx1024m" then?
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: yes, after you use 'cd' to change to the folder containing the command
[00:29] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: I got the command to work. Thank you. Now I don't get whether it makes a persistent change or not tho. I need the change to be persistent.
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: could try:  sudo ln -s /opt/eclipse/eclipse-vmargs-Xmx1024m /usr/bin/eclipse
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: I assume you don't have eclipse installed by package
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: if you then just run:  eclipse    does ity run?
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[00:32] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: I didn't install via apt-get, no. I got this command from: http://help.eclipse.org/indigo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.user/tasks/running_eclipse.htm (near the top of page). But it doesn't say if it is just for that use or if the change is persistent. It has to do with setting how much memory for eclipse to use or something.
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: try the symlink, it may just fly
[00:32] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: what is ity? a terminal?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: the terminal command I gave to make a symlink
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[00:34] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: err... need to understand what result that produces (how it works/ effects my system) and I have to run right now. I will keep that in consideration for when I get back to this. Thank you sir.
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[00:34] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: it makes a file in you /usr/bin like the rest of the commands you run
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: if it works then its because you have put the link i na folder named in $PATH
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: try it, it may just allow you to hit ALT+F2 and run:  eclipse
[00:37] <Laban> Hello
[00:37] <mneri> hi, i've installed windows and now the bootloader is gone. what i have to do?
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[00:37] <yvesD> repair it via CD
[00:37] <Pici> !fixgrub
[00:37] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[00:37] <mneri> ty
[00:37] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: I can run eclipse fine. Even have it favorited on my desktop bar. It's that I have lot of plugins in it and it isn't set to use enough memory. Well there is 16 gig of ram on this machine so memory is not a problem. It's a matter of permanently setting eclipse to use the amount I want it to (I though 1024m would be a good start).
[00:37] <Laban> I run Xubuntu 12.10 on my laptop, and for some odd reason it keeps dropping IPv6 connectivity. Other machines in the network does not have a problem with this.
[00:38] <Laban> Has any others seen this before?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> mneri: how did you install ubuntu?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: whta has that got to do with a symlink?
[00:38] <Laban> IPv4 stays up all along.
[00:39] <Laban> ping over v4 works fine internally, but over v6 it just dies.
[00:39] <mneri> ActionParsnip from cd about a year ago. today i've installed windows 8 and the bootloader is gone. i'm sure ubuntu is still there.
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> mneri: should be. You can use a chroot from liveCD to reinstate grub
[00:39] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: I don't know (I don't understand what the symlink would do for me). What that is, is the problem I'm trying to solve (the memory setting - not launchnig eclipse).
[00:39] <blackshirt> !grub2 | mneri
[00:39] <ubottu> mneri: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> mneri: omgubuntu have a guide called 'sticking it to grub'
[00:40] <mneri> ActionParsnip ty
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: In a terminal, run:  sudo ln -s /opt/eclipse/eclipse-vmargs-Xmx1024m /usr/bin/eclipse
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[00:40] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: it will mean you don't need t cd to the folder to launch the app
[00:41] <jimmyk> could anyone here help me with an lvm problem?
[00:42] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: I don't need to cd to the folder to launch the app - it launches just fine apart from the terminal. That may be useful in the future if I have to run a terminal command but what I'm trying to do is change a setting in eclipse.
[00:42] <ClientAlive> I have to go. I'm sorry
[00:42] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip:
[00:42] <ClientAlive> thx
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[00:43] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: easier?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: glad its somewhat working :)
[00:45] <rara> hi
[00:46] <Geothst> Does anyone know how to get Unity to stop crashing?
[00:46] <yvesD> uninstall it
[00:46] <yvesD> *g*
[00:46] <Geothst> Ubuntu has some dependencies on unity, so I can't.
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:46] <Geothst> Or I would.
[00:46] <rara> Are the backup fles from clonezilla compatible with ubuntu ?
[00:47] <n2deep> does anyone here have any info on Ubuntu for Android?
[00:47] <Geothst> It just says, "Precise".
[00:47] <yvesD> any error-messages?
[00:47] <rara> Are the backup fles from clonezilla compatible with ubuntu ?
[00:47] <n2deep> ...join me in #ubuntu-android if you have any info to share
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: you could use a different session if you don't like Unity. You can install xcfe4 and use that desktop instead of Gnome
[00:48] <Geothst> Well, I tried that.
[00:48] <Geothst> Unity still crashes when I load XFCE.
[00:48] <Geothst> And I still have the panel to the left.
[00:49] <Geothst> in my XFCE session.
[00:49] <yvesD> xubuntu?
[00:49] <Geothst> No. I do have XFCE and Xubuntu session on my LightDM though.
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> yvesD: just using a different DE in ubuntu, not xubuntu
[00:50] <Geothst> I also got some weird X11 errors about directories missing and then my computer turned off.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: Have you tried the Unity2D session
[00:50] <capeeKo> well I lost all my files after the install
[00:50] <capeeKo> oh well
[00:50] <Geothst> Unity 3D wouldn't even load at first. Fresh install. I installed Gnome3 and now it loads, but crashes. But Unity 2D also crashes.
[00:51] <Geothst> Unity 2D says it crashes, and it asks me if I want to reload it. But it works. It's fine. It just thinks it crashes.
[00:51] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: not recently, why?
[00:51] <yvesD> driver? firmware?
[00:51] <laffinboy> hello
[00:51] <capeeKo> thanks for the help Action & willis
[00:51] <Geothst> I think he was trying to tab-complete Geothst, gordonjcp :)
[00:53] <laffinboy> can anybody answer a question about ubuntu
[00:53] <Geothst> This is probably a good place for that.
[00:54] <Geothst> What is the likelyhood that something messed up when I was doing my install causing Unity to be awful and crash a lot and not work right in any way whatsoever? And that if I just re-install Ubuntu it will work right, then. because honestly I'm about to uninstall and just use Windows.
[00:54] <k1l> !ask | laffinboy
[00:54] <ubottu> laffinboy: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[00:55] <laffinboy> i have an older version of ubuntu (10.10) on a disk can do try without install if i try to install it crashes
[00:56] <Geothst> Did you check the MD5?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: sorry, wrong target
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: try unity2d
[00:56] <Geothst> I did. It also crashes.
[00:56] <laffinboy> my question is therena way i can do the upgrade and have it save to my hard drive
[00:56] <Geothst> Well, it thinks it has crashed. It works fine, as far as I can tell.
[00:57] <laffinboy> md5?
[00:57] <Geothst> When you download the install file it sometimes messes up a small part of the file and can cause your OS to malfunction.
[00:57] <Geothst> !MD5
[00:57] <ubottu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[00:58] <laffinboy> brb
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: have you tested your RAM?
[01:00] <oldgettingsomewh> 5500 mhz
[01:00] <oldgettingsomewh> lol
[01:00] <Geothst> No, but I run other OSes just fine. It hadn't occured to me that it could be a RAM issue. 10.04, 10.10, 11.04, and 11.10 all worked fine. As did WinXP and Win7. Unity in 12.04 is the only issue I'm having on this hardware.
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[01:02] <oldgettingsomewh> hey what hertz more  a meaga hert or punchasise your face hertz
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[01:03] <completeIdiot> hello all
[01:03] <completeIdiot> any1 alive here?
[01:04] <Geothst> Help. I'm alive.
[01:04] <kostkon> completeIdiot, no, we are all zombies :P
[01:04] <completeIdiot> hehehe.. at my location is 2am .. no wonder 4 seeing zombies dancing ca-ca-ca
[01:05] <nowayride> sudo kill Geothst
[01:05] <Geothst> noooo "...brains"
[01:05] <completeIdiot> i need some help..
[01:05] <completeIdiot> is it possible to get it here?
[01:05] <Geothst> Not prescription help, no.
[01:06] <nowayride> completeIdiot: Just ask, if somebody knows they'll chime in
[01:06] <Geothst> But if it's about Linux, maybe. :)
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: hold SHIFT at boot, select the Memtest from the Grub menu to test
[01:06] <Geothst> Okay, will do that. Thanks ActionParsnip.
[01:06] <completeIdiot> am... linux.. yes.. vm.. exactly...
[01:07] <completeIdiot> adding C:\ to access over win xp once it starts...
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[01:10] <completeIdiot> i installed virtual box, some extra pack that was requiered to access disk.. but, still cant get to filles over win xp, wich is now inside the virtual mashine..
[01:11] <completeIdiot> any help - step by step - i read the instructions, but.. i gues my nick is there for a reason?
[01:13] <dr_willis> completeIdiot:  once you got an os IN vbox you can transfer files in differnt ways. as if they were 2 seperate machines on the same lan. you could use samba, ssh/scp/winscp, or vbox's own special share feature.
[01:13] <dr_willis> for simple transfering, ssh + winscp is quick to get going
[01:13] <fachhoch> need help connecting to windows using cisaco vpn
[01:14] <completeIdiot> lan? ups..
[01:14] <fachhoch> my vpn connection is sucessful  now want to connect to my remote windows machine
[01:14] <fachhoch> any gurus want to help me ?
[01:15] <dr_willis> completeIdiot:  vbox runs on the host and the guest and host os are on their own virtual lan.
[01:15] <completeIdiot> i got external hd, and running linux on it... in that same disk, i got files, i would like to access to
[01:15] <nowayride> dr_willis: you can also set it up bridged so they're on the same subnet
[01:15] <dr_willis> You can use the vbox configs to set it up as a vbox share, or set it up as a samba share, or just use winscp on the windows in vbox, and ssh on the linux side
[01:16] <dr_willis> nowayride:  that will confuse him even more. ;)
[01:16] <dr_willis> http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders
[01:16] <completeIdiot> ok, i am allready confused... i read the manuals.. but.. is it possible to get step-by-step help?
[01:17] <dr_willis> easier to just use ssh and winscp...
[01:17] <dr_willis> or samba.
[01:17] <completeIdiot> ok, how i use ssh and what it is?
[01:17] <dr_willis> !ssh
[01:17] <ubottu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)
[01:17] <fachhoch> any articles to connect to   remote windows after vpn connection ?
[01:17] <dr_willis> install the openssh server on linux, install winscp on windows.. run winscp. connect to the ssh server.. use the file manager gui to copy files around.
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[01:18] <completeIdiot> hold on..
[01:18]  * dr_willis wonders what he should hold on to....
[01:19] <SierraAR> Is it possible to create a partition on a machine that has 12.04 on it, and install windows xp to that partition?
[01:19] <completeIdiot> i put that name (openssh) into ubuntu software center...
[01:19] <completeIdiot> got secure shell
[01:19] <completeIdiot> sec panel
[01:19] <Eol> I'm trying to install Postgres 9.1, with the following commands. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pitti/postgresql;sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.1.  But when I do, it still says "Cannot find package postgresql-9.1".  Any ideas on what could be wrong?
[01:19] <blackshirt> hello
[01:20] <dr_willis> SierraAR:  linux does not install to ntfs or vfat. you COULD make a ntfs or vfat from linux and install windows to that partion.,
[01:20] <almoxarife> SierraAR: yes
[01:20] <blackshirt> !postgresql
[01:20] <uabn93> is it okay to ask a q about lubuntu here? It is about the installer, which is the same as ubuntus right?
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[01:20] <dr_willis> the way you phrased it.. sounds like you want both os's on the same partition
[01:20] <blackshirt> !postgreesql
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> Eol: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[01:20] <dr_willis> uabn93:  i think they are the same.. if not they are very similer... I dont recall any differances
[01:20] <BrandonBolton> Hello, how can I update my OpenGL drivers? I added this PPA already, but cannot figure out how to install the newer versions. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[01:21] <blackshirt> !find postgre
[01:21] <ubottu> Found: postgresql, postgresql-9.1, postgresql-9.1-dbg, postgresql-client, postgresql-client-9.1, postgresql-client-common, postgresql-common, postgresql-contrib, postgresql-contrib-9.1, postgresql-doc (and 117 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=postgre&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all
[01:21] <Eol> Let me check, I have to do some weird network hacks
[01:21] <Yuri-Yang> Hello, does anyone know how to improve WIFI connection? It's very complicated. I have a ACER 4750G. I was using WIFI without any problem at home or in the public like starbuck. But when it comes to my office wifi, problem occurs as it becomes very slow. Can anyone give me any hints what the reason may be?
[01:22] <completeIdiot> am... any one copy? i put openssh in the ubuntu software center.. results are secure shell, secpanel.. what to install now?
[01:22] <SierraAR> dr_willis, how would I do that? I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to different file system formats
[01:22] <uabn93> the window crashes after i make it to the password/user phase. The mouse still remains, but in the loading position. what should i do?
[01:22] <Eol> lsb_release -sc : maverick
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Eol: maverick is dead
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Eol: the ppa doesn't support maverick, nor does the ubuntu community
[01:22] <nowayride> Well his user name is appropriate then :P
[01:22] <dr_willis> SierraAR:  use gparted. make a partion. make it ntfs.. format it.. winodows should be able to install to it
[01:22] <Eol> i see..
[01:23] <Eol> ok, where do I need to go to change this stuff? The IT guys just gave me a linux box. What should I tell them to fix, I'm pretty noobish at linux
[01:23] <Pelo> evening folks,  I'M running 12.04 in classic mode,  I can't schedule appointments by clicking in the calendar in the top panel,  how do I do it ?
[01:23] <SierraAR> dr_willis, alright, thanks. +cookie
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Eol: I suggest you clean install with Precise for support til April 2017 , or Quantal for the latest features
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Eol: tell him to clean install Precise
[01:23] <Pelo> what's the default calendar app in 12.04 is what I'm asking
[01:24] <Eol> So that means a whole new linux box?
[01:24] <dr_willis> install to the one you got now?
[01:24] <SierraAR> Pelo, according to System Settings > Details, something called 'gedit'
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> Eol: no just a new OS
[01:25] <completeIdiot> any1 friendly enough to help me out on private over the virtual box and adding hdds?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> Eol: its like he installed Windows 95 and gave you it :)
[01:25] <gonyere> pelo: I think 12.04 ships with thunderbird, but the calendar may integrate with evolution
[01:25] <Pelo> SierraAR, gedit is a text editor, a pretty nifty one but not a calendar
[01:25] <dr_willis> completeIdiot:  you dont want to access physical HDS from vbox.
[01:25] <Eol> yeah, i figured that
[01:25] <dr_willis> completeIdiot:  that can cause data curruption
[01:25] <Pelo> gonyere, ok thanks I guess
[01:25] <gonyere> i know it does in gnome-shell anyhow
[01:25] <SierraAR> gonyere Pelo, the calender part of thunderbird is a separate plugin called lightning, which is what I use :P (No idea if it can be set as the default calender app)
[01:25] <gonyere> i'm not 100% if thats the same in unity or not
[01:25] <Eol> Ah, ok. so 10.10 is "maverick" and 12.04 is "precise"
[01:26] <uabn93> the installer window keeps crashing on me. Can anyone help me out
[01:26] <BrandonBolton> Eol, exactly.
[01:26] <Eol> ok, thanks
[01:26] <Pelo> SierraAR, ok pluging in thunderbird, that makes a bit of sense , I'll give that a try
[01:26] <dr_willis> uabn93:  you did verify the iso file after you downloaded it? it is possible to run the installer from a terminal window and look for error messages
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[01:27] <lkthomas> hey guys, does any repo support Atom optimized kernel ?
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[01:27] <dr_willis> completeIdiot:  best to talk in the channel. I may have to leave at any time.
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[01:28] <completeIdiot> no panic..
[01:28] <uabn93> dr_willis: i downloaded the torrent so it should be ok. how can i figure out the name of the installer?
[01:28] <dr_willis> lkthomas:  ive not noticed any atom optmized ubuntu variants, or kernels. Ive seen some other disrots that seem to focus on netbooks. but i cant even rember their names
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[01:28] <dr_willis> uabn93:  i think its called 'ubiquity'
[01:28] <lkthomas> dr_willis: errr, ok thanks
[01:31] <uabn93> dr_willis: it says theres an update for the installer but nothing happens when i click on it
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[01:31] <dr_willis> uabn93:  cant say ive ever noticed it day that.. this is a 12.10 lubuntu you are using?
[01:32] <uabn93> dr_willis: yes. maybe i should go back a versioin
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[01:33] <dr_willis> uabn93:  12.10 lubuntu installed fine on my laptop the other day.
[01:33] <dr_willis> its possible you got a bad burn to the cd, or the iso file could been bad.. wouldent hurt to double check
[01:33] <elisa87> how to find my mac address?
[01:33] <completeIdiot> any one that got an hour of time, to help my out? on private? over vbox?
[01:34] <dr_willis> elisa87:  ifconfig shoes you elisa87
[01:34] <dr_willis> HWaddr f4:6d:04:9e:90:62
[01:34] <elisa87> is arp true as well dr_willis ?
[01:34] <uabn93> dr_willis: im doing a usb install. burned it twice, and im on my third install attempt
[01:35] <dr_willis> no idea. cant say ive ever had to mess with arp.
[01:35] <dr_willis> uabn93:  installing to a external usb hd?
[01:35] <uabn93> dang. no, usb stick
[01:35] <completeIdiot> dr_willis! i got that too
[01:35] <completeIdiot> linux and ntfs - external hd
[01:36] <dr_willis> uabn93:  theres alternative tools to make a live usb. pendrivelinux web site has several. could be something quirky with how its being made
[01:37] <uabn93> dr_willis: did the new icon theme act funny to you? maybe its this cheap graphics card that im using
[01:37] <dr_willis> uabn93:  cant say ive noticed any icon issues in lubuntu
[01:37] <dr_willis> could be a driver issue also
[01:37] <uabn93> like... the text being too light sometimes. same with the buttons
[01:38] <uabn93> yeah let me try it without the graphics card
[01:38] <dr_willis> try some differnt themes perhaps
[01:38] <SierraAR> Is lubuntu different from ubuntu?
[01:38] <elisa87> if I want to find the hostname should I only write hostname? or do I need some flags?
[01:38] <dr_willis> $ hostname
[01:38] <dr_willis> SSDBuntu
[01:39] <dr_willis> ;) not like the hostname command ran by a user is going to change your hostname....
[01:39] <SunTsu> elisa87: depends on what you want to see - try it, if it doesn't show you exaktly what you want to see consult the manpage
[01:39] <SunTsu> exactly even
[01:39] <dr_willis> hostname is shown in the default prompt also.
[01:41] <elisa87> thanks SunTsu
[01:42] <uabn93> dr_willis: found out the error. is says illegal instruction and then quits
[01:43] <dr_willis> uabn93:  sounds like a nasty crash for some reason
[01:46] <elisa87> can I install win7 over already installed ubuntu 12.04 if my notebook is HP?
[01:46] <elisa87> and with which software do you suggest me to partition my drives?
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[01:46] <SierraAR> elisa87, someone suggested to me I use gparted to create a partition and format sade partition to ntfs when I was asking about installing XP
[01:47] <SierraAR> s/sade/said*
[01:47] <elisa87> SierraAR How much should I put for win7? If I am about to install Softwares like Matlab out there?
[01:48] <SierraAR> elisa87, honestly not sure on the sizing. I'm planning on just splitting my 500GB hd in two - 250 for ubuntu, 250 for xp
[01:48] <Geo|N7> I installed win7 then ubuntu and just used ubuntu to repartition
[01:49] <elisa87> SierraAR so might my Ubuntu get formatted by any chance? which I wish not
[01:49] <Geo|N7> I think I had issues with grub2 but I am a total newb and it was painless
[01:49] <Geo|N7> I think if you install ubuntu and then windows, you're going to have a bad time
[01:50] <gonyere> its been a long time since i set up a dual boot system
[01:50] <gonyere> but as i recall it was best to install ubuntu and get your partitions worked out
[01:50] <Geo|N7> I believe windows removes grub altogether.
[01:50] <three18ti> I'm trying to follow this guid: http://rudd-o.com/en/linux-and-free-software/a-better-way-to-create-a-customized-ubuntu-live-usb-drive to make an ubuntu live cd, but the ubuntu 12.10 iso only includes an initrd.lz .  do I need to convert this to an initrd.gz or is the lz acceptable to use?  Will grub be able to boot the initrd.lz ?
[01:50] <gonyere> then install windows on whichever one you want to install it on
[01:50] <gonyere> then go back and re-install linux
[01:51] <gonyere> also, for linux installs i recommend two partitions: one / and one /home so you can re-install linux whenever you like and not touch your personal files
[01:51] <three18ti> this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomizeLiveInitrd has steps to repack it into an initrd.gz, but it says, "or, if you want an initrd.lz (for Ubuntu 9.10 and later):" which would infer that ubuntu > 9.10 needs an initrd.lz .
[01:51] <Geo|N7> I installed windows and then Linux and it worked really well. 12.04 makes partitions cake.
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[01:52] <Geo|N7> No need to install 3 times
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[01:52] <SierraAR> s-by-s-HELP-VM, I don't think changing your nick repeatedly is going to help much
[01:52] <gonyere> yeah, i don't doubt things have gotten better - its been a solid 6 yrs since i attempted a dual boot system :)
[01:53] <escott> three18ti, if grub knows how to extract lzma
[01:53] <escott> three18ti, or maybe the kernel extracts the initrd... not sure who unpacks it
[01:53] <Geo|N7> I am almost positive that installing Linux and then windows will result in a migraine.
[01:54] <gonyere> dual-boot IME usually results in at least a few screw ups :p
[01:54] <three18ti> Geo|N7, is 100% correct. the windows boot loader rewrites the MBR with extreme prejudice.
[01:55] <three18ti> escott, yea, that's what I don't know...  I assume since I've grabbed the vmliuz from the same cd it -should- work...
[01:55]  * three18ti shrugs
[01:55] <three18ti> I guess there's only one way to find out. ;)
[01:55] <gonyere> :p
[01:56] <blackshirt> hello
[01:56] <walterwoj> I have a folder (/strorage) that I want to be fully usable by my user and users on the samba share but the permissions are always locking one or the other out  how can I fix this?
[01:57] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> hy.. sorry, to bother u.. i need some step-by-step help over Virtual Mashine.. i installed Virtual box, another OS, some extra pack, that was requiered to access HD, but.. still cant access any of HDDs.. i got installed linux ubuntu 12.04 LTS on externall hd, and in that same HD i got ntfs partition that i would like to acces over virtual mashine (win xp) possible on private?? PS: i am total neewbie
[01:57] <escott> walterwoj, depends on your configuration. you will have to give examples of files that one can access but not the other
[01:58] <escott> s-by-s-HELP-VM, are you trying to pass a USB hard drive as a raw device to a VM guest?
[01:58] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> am.. wait, need to translate...
[01:59] <walterwoj> for example I back up file to the share from my laptop and those files are locked to my local account user, then i create a file locally and the samba users are now denied permissions.  I already chmod 777 but that only works until someone creates a file...
[02:00] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> raw, burned, well done... dosent mather.. i just need win xp, to access usb hd -ntfs
[02:00] <escott> s-by-s-HELP-VM, so XP is the guest (running inside VBox) ubuntu is the host
[02:01] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> escott - private?
[02:01] <escott> !pm | s-by-s-HELP-VM
[02:01] <ubottu> s-by-s-HELP-VM: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[02:02] <escott> s-by-s-HELP-VM, there are two ways i can think to do this.
[02:02] <blackshirt> i think you should mount your hd into exPortable share point
[02:02] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> ups.. thanks for notice..
[02:03] <escott> s-by-s-HELP-VM, 1) let linux handle the USB device and pass the raw device /dev/sdb or the like to windows, or 2) find the usb location with lsusb and pass the USB device to windows. in either case you would do this through the VBox configuration
[02:03] <Geothst> I did a memory test, and got no errors. But now I can't open my update manager, or the Ubuntu Software Center.  E: Type 'ain' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-gnome3-precise.list E: The list of sources could not be read.
[02:03] <escott> walterwoj, specifics. exact permissions of examples files (ie output of ls -al /path/to/filename
[02:04] <Geothst> I can't remove the gnome PPA because I can't open my update manager or the ubuntu software center. They both just crash.
[02:04] <Geothst> And if I try to remove it in a terminal it just gives me that error, too.
[02:05] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> ok.. crap, google does not translate ok... i think i can use win xp cmd??
[02:06] <escott> s-by-s-HELP-VM, what is your native language
[02:06] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> slovenian
[02:06] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> europe, slovenia
[02:06] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> but.. our sleepy nations... are sleeping..
[02:06] <Geothst> lol
[02:06] <escott> !si
[02:06] <ubottu> Kanal za podporo slovenskim uporabnikom Ubuntuja je #ubuntu-si. Če potrebujete pomoč v Slovenskem jeziku, prosimo da se nam pridružite in probali vam bomo pomagati. Slovenian language support channel is #ubuntu-si
[02:07] <escott> s-by-s-HELP-VM, trying to run this through google translate is not going to be very effective
[02:07] <WHAT_UP> is there a way to stop the graphics card midway through? it seems to be running really hot, and i'm just sshing/running apache on the machine anyway so i have no use for any display
[02:07] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> nice!!! in my own language... thank u, but in home channel.. are sleeping
[02:07] <walterwoj> for example file created by the share a owned by root with chmod 700 but files added localy are owned by walterwoj chmod 700 making both inaccessible to the others
[02:10] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> escott?
[02:10] <escott> walterwoj, did you modify the samba config at all
[02:10] <escott> s-by-s-HELP-VM, im not sure what to tell you. you need to make changes to the Virtual machine configuration in the vbox manager
[02:10] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> ok
[02:11] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> guide?
[02:11] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> got vbox running
[02:12] <escott> s-by-s-HELP-VM, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbox-usb.html
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[02:12] <escott> s-by-s-HELP-VM, or https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45161
[02:13] <Geo|N7> This is incredibly infuriating.
[02:13] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> escott, try to guide me.. plese
[02:14] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> please
[02:14] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> i need access to files till six am, 3h till than
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[02:15] <Geothst> s-by-s-HELP-VM, this stuff is already complicated enough. There are a lot of technical terms and abbreviations that google translate is not going to work for. It's going to be pretty much impossible to guide you through something when half of the words aren't going to translate.
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[02:16] <ActionParsnip> s-by-s-HELP-VM: escott: can't ubuntu just access the NTFS?
[02:17] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> actionparsnip, is that q directed 2 me?
[02:17] <escott> ActionParsnip, ours is not to wonder why, ours is but to answer the questions asked. its probably just how s-by-s-HELP-VM phrased his question that gave the sense he wanted direct access of some kind
[02:18] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> any access would be ok...
[02:18] <gdeeble> Hello, just curious if anyone has worked with zoneminder before?
[02:19] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> in my computer... in win xp, is only C:\ and.. thats is it.. no usbs, other hdd
[02:19] <Geothst> Don't you have to have 3rd party plugins (closed source) to use USB on VM? I'm pretty sure I remember having this issue as well, and I had to install the closed source version of VM.
[02:19] <vanessa> hi..  can someone help me sort out a KMS vs. Radeon (gallium3d/r300g driver) conflict?  Resume from suspend-to-ram = black screen unless I disable KMS, but do that and I get knocked down to VESA video.
[02:19] <escott> s-by-s-HELP-VM, that would be the easiest then. "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g" open the ntfs drive with "nautilus" in ubuntu, and then pass the folder "/media/XXXX-XXXX" to the windows guest with the guest additions
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> s-by-s-HELP-VM: ubuntu can access NTFS partitions, You don't need Windows..
[02:19] <escott> Geothst, newest versions have some USB support
[02:19] <Geothst> Can someone tell me how I'm supposed to remove a PPA when I can't remove it from GUI or CLI?
[02:20] <NSAgent> Geothst: Virtualbox requires an extension pack for USB 2
[02:20] <RamchandraApte> !ask
[02:20] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[02:20] <vanessa> Geothst, install ppa-purge and use that.
[02:20] <Geothst> I tried that. It says the PPA doesn't exist.
[02:20] <Geothst> But when I try to open the Ubunut Software Center, it crashes and says the gnome ppa is missing something.
[02:20] <RamchandraApte> Geothst: you can edit the file manually
[02:21] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> yes... but.. in VM Box, i would like to access internal hdd on my laptop.. i use external hdd to run linux on it, and win xp in it
[02:21] <Geothst> I'm a bit of a newb, RamchandraApte, can you explain how to do that?
[02:21] <RamchandraApte> Geothst: ofc I am doing that.
[02:21] <escott> RamchandraApte, that doesn't exactly remove the installed packages
[02:21] <escott> Geothst, ppa-purge doesn't see the ppa?
[02:21] <RamchandraApte> escott: oh that is what he/she wants to do.
[02:22] <escott> RamchandraApte, its potentially unsafe to just nuke the ppa from sources.list
[02:22] <Geothst> E: Type 'ain' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-gnome3-precise.list
[02:22] <Geothst> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[02:22] <Geothst> Warning:  apt-get update failed for some reason
[02:22] <RamchandraApte> escott: not in the hands of experts :D
[02:22] <escott> RamchandraApte, then you are sitting around with packages coming from the PPA and have no PPA backing them
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[02:23] <VanessaE_[L]> there, that's better.
[02:23] <escott> !into ppa-purge | Geothst
[02:23] <escott> !info ppa-purge | Geothst
[02:23] <ubottu> Geothst: ppa-purge (source: ppa-purge): disables a PPA and reverts to official packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+bzr56 (quantal), package size 4 kB, installed size 56 kB
[02:23] <RamchandraApte> escott: but is it impossible to uninstall them?
[02:23] <blackshirt> geothst, something wrong on your gnomey sources list
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[02:23] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> now i got compiz issue
[02:23] <Geothst> All I know is I can't remove the PPA because everything crashes and the crash is saying it's the PPA that's causing the crash.
[02:23] <s-by-s-HELP-VM> :(
[02:23] <escott> RamchandraApte, in his case he would have gnome-ppa packages that would override the standard ppa packages
[02:23] <three18ti> mmkay.  I'm open to ideas on how to make a live usb disk that is a) persistent, b) customizable. liveusb won't work because it doesn't have the flexibility I need.  Unfortunately, the instructions I was following seem to be outdated or otherwise incorrect.
[02:24] <escott> Geothst, i assume this happened after you upgraded to precise
[02:24] <Geothst> Yeah I tried PPA purge and got that output that I just pasteed. $ sudo ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team-gnome3
[02:24] <Geothst> No, this is a fresh 12.04 install. Unity crashes every 5 minutes so I'm trying to install something that doesn't crash.
[02:24] <Geothst> So i can actually do things. Instead of sit here and send in crash logs.
[02:25] <dr_willis> Type 'ain' is not known on line 3... sounds like a typo in the file
[02:25] <escott> Geothst, clearly not a fresh install if you have a PPA
[02:25] <Geothst> Yes. I tried to install gnome3 and now I can't open my package manager to remove it.
[02:26] <dr_willis> when in doubt, fall back to the cli tools.
[02:26] <axisys> is there a way to find out the dependency pkg without installing the pkg?
[02:26] <escott> Geothst, sounds like you got a broken ppa. i haven't kept up with the gnome3 ppa team, but you can just install gnome-shell
[02:26] <Geothst> I can't use my package manager at all.
[02:26] <Geothst> It says this error every time I do anything. from GUI or CLI.
[02:27] <Geothst> Hence my frustration.
[02:27] <AR_> Geothst, it's pretty easy
[02:27] <AR_> what do you want to install
[02:27] <Geothst> Anything, at this point. I can't even install .deb files. It gives me this ppa error every time, and then closes.
[02:28] <AR_> sudo apt-get install whatever
[02:28] <escott> Geothst, you need to correct the typo in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-gnome3-precise.list
[02:28] <Geothst> Ubuntu Software Center won't even try to open it all, it immediately gives me this error.
[02:28] <Geothst> And then closes.
[02:28] <AR_> dont use GUI
[02:28] <dr_willis> looks like its saying theres an error on line 3 of that file... you should be able to just remove that  gnome3-team-gnome3-precise.list to some other place
[02:28] <escott> Geothst, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-gnome3-precise.list
[02:28] <Geothst> I already pasted what the CLI error is when I try to use apt-get. I can't use apt-get.
[02:28] <AR_> remove GUI from your computer and enjoy tremendous speed increase
[02:28] <escott> Geothst, if you haven't actually installed anything from gnome3 ppa team you can just sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-gnome3-precise.list
[02:29] <Geothst> Phew. Finally. We're getting somewhere!
[02:29] <AR_> lol @ topic in #2,000
[02:29] <AR_> haha
[02:29] <dr_willis> err.. dident we say to edit that file and fix it like 20 min ago? ;)
[02:29] <Geothst> That worked, escott. Thank you!
[02:30] <Geothst> I asked how. I said I'm new and didn't know where the file was. :(
[02:30] <kiyoura> looooo
[02:30] <AR_> kiyoura, do you like the topic
[02:30] <dr_willis> the error gave the full path to the file.. ;)
[02:30] <AR_> in #2,000
[02:30] <Geothst> Then people just kept telling me to use apt-get on CLI after I had already said I was getting an error with that no matter what I did.
[02:30] <AR_> what is the error
[02:30] <Butcho> I'm getting a lot of garbled text in 12.10. Similar to this post http://askubuntu.com/questions/216780/garbled-text-in-terminal-titles-and-other-places-after-upgrade-to-12-10
[02:31] <AR_> sudo apt-get install apt
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[02:31] <Geothst> The error was the gnome ppa thing.
[02:31] <AR_> apt-get remove gnome
[02:31] <Geothst> I couldn't use apt-get lol. How many times do I have to say that?
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: can you pastebin the output of:    gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-gnome3-precise.list
[02:32] <dr_willis> about as many times as we said to edit the file and fix the error it seems... :)
[02:32] <Geothst> escott fixed it for me.
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: why are you adding the PPA anyway?
[02:32] <escott> Geothst, we are trying to be careful not to mess up your system
[02:32] <Geothst> Unity is crashing like eveyr 5 minutes.
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: maybe I'll get listened to :)
[02:32] <AR_> do you not have sudo?
[02:32] <Geothst> I want a UI that doesn't keep me filling out crash reports all day.
[02:32] <AR_> apt-get install sudo
[02:32] <AR_> ?
[02:32] <tentaclemoose> get xfce
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: can you pastebin the output of:    gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-gnome3-precise.list
[02:33] <Geothst> It's already been deleted, ActionParsnip.
[02:33] <dr_willis> Geothst:  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop   perhaps..
[02:33] <escott> Geothst, if you just remove a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d without giving apt a chance to install the non-ppa versions of the package... that would be bad
[02:33] <Geothst> Problem is solved :)
[02:33] <tentaclemoose> sorry, i just got so excited about xfce for a moment that i couldn't contain myself
[02:33] <Geothst> Yeah but there were no packages installed because it crashed.
[02:33] <AR_> remove all your temporary files in /etc/
[02:33] <Geothst> I added the PPA and tried to update it and it crashed.
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: can you please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com   open the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome3-team-gnome3-precise.list file and pastebin the file please
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[02:34] <Geothst> So, if the PPA is broken how do I install gnome3?
[02:34] <dr_willis> Geothst:  what relase are you using?
[02:34] <AR_> sudo apt-get install gnome3
[02:34] <Geothst> The file no longer exists, ActionParsnip. I just deleted it.
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: ok cool
[02:34] <dr_willis> Geothst:  how did you add the ppa? Looks like you or someone did a typo when adding it
[02:34] <Geothst> I copied it from a website for "how to install gnome3".
[02:34] <tentaclemoose> i think he's sorted it out already
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: if you want the PPA just run:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[02:35] <dr_willis> Geothst:  sounds like you made a typo. or the site did.. or a misspaste,,
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: then run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:35] <Irken> Ubuntu sucks
[02:35] <dr_willis> Geothst:  so what release of ubuntu are you using?
[02:35] <Geothst> All is well now. The file is gone, so I can use apt-get again.
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: your call, those packages are not supported here
[02:35] <Geothst> 12.04
[02:35] <AR_> Irken, this is not the place for trolling
[02:35] <Geothst> What is the difference between using a PPA and installing sudo apt-get install gnome3?
[02:35] <Irken> On the contrary
[02:35] <dr_willis> Geothst:  gnome is in the 12.04 repos.. no real need for that ppa
[02:36] <Irken> This is the place for trolling
[02:36] <NSAgent> Geothst: You can't do it without the ppa
[02:36] <Irken> Because Ubuntu sucks
[02:36] <NSAgent> Never mind, apparently ;)
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: Precise comes with Gnome3 by default
[02:36] <AR_> Geothst, remove all temporary files in /etc/ and i guarantee it will work
[02:36] <escott> !gnome3 | Geothst
[02:36] <ubottu> Geothst: GNOME 3 is the desktop environment on which Unity is based.  To use GNOME Shell instead of Unity, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". GNOME 3 is not supported under Natty/11.04, and may break your system if installed from alternate sources.
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: it just uses Unity shell, instead of the default Gnome shell which is the 'normal' shell for Gnome 3
[02:37] <AR_> !gnome4 | escott
[02:38] <Butcho> anyone know of a fix for stuff like this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/216780/garbled-text-in-terminal-titles-and-other-places-after-upgrade-to-12-10
[02:38] <AR_> yeah just remove temporary files in /etc
[02:38] <three18ti> the Ubuntu Customization Kit doesn't work.
[02:38] <NSAgent> Butcho: Looks like a possible problem with the video driver
[02:38] <SunMoonStar> hi all. I'm at my wit's end trying to install this printer.. I'm on ubuntu 12.10; printer is Dell v725w; i installed the driver and firmware from dell website (http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/Product/dell-v725w-inkjet-printer). I've restarted after having done that.. the printer is not in the printers list.. so I go to add it, it detects it (network printer), but has no good suggestions for device driver. I tried it's suggesti
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> Geothst: did you upgrade from Precise to Quantal?
[02:39] <Geothst> No, this is a brand new 12.04 install.
[02:40] <jgspratt> Booted from a live CD, started a copy, then the "classic desktop" (which is slow as hell) crashed and wanted to report an error (very windows-esque) and then I couldn't use the keyboard except in menues.
[02:40] <Butcho> NSAgent, indeed it does I think. I'm using Nouveau. Anyway to fix it?
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> Butcho: is it an upgrade to Quantal from Preicse?
[02:40] <ArkhamP> Hello
[02:40] <Butcho> no
[02:40] <jgspratt> Can I boot from an ubuntu live CD to a terminal-only environment?
[02:40] <Butcho> new install
[02:40] <Yohan> Irken...yo.
[02:40] <Irken> what
[02:40] <Butcho> ActionParsnip, no, new install
[02:40] <NSAgent> Butcho: Try the nvidia one
[02:40] <Yohan> hai...
[02:40] <Irken> hello
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Butcho: if you run:  nvidia-settings   what driver are you using?
[02:41] <NSAgent> jgspratt: There should be an option for text mode on the initial boot screen
[02:41] <jgspratt> saw nothing.  it just went to a brownish background
[02:41] <Butcho> ActionParsnip, Nouveau
[02:41] <jgspratt> there was no option menu
[02:42] <ArkhamP> Why can I not get Xchat to go to the tray?
[02:42] <jgspratt> if I click "try ubuntu" I just get a windows desktop
[02:42] <Irken> swarfega: are we the only ones with avatars?
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> Butcho: then run:   sudo apt-get install nvidia-current    then reboot. Your Intel CPU doesn't have an inbuilt CPU which makes a tonne of issues not happen
[02:42] <NSAgent> jgspratt: By that point you're too far, it's at the initial boot screen
[02:43] <jgspratt> NSAgent: what does that screen look like?
[02:43] <Butcho> ActionParsnip, ok rebooting, brb
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> jgspratt: which release are you booting?
[02:44] <NSAgent> jgspratt: Should be something like http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FMuQLiFs-bQ/UF2pTDNydHI/AAAAAAAAGx4/14CKvWhAvuQ/s1600/try-ubuntu-menu.png
[02:44] <jgspratt> latest desktop
[02:44] <jgspratt> can I enable sshd?
[02:44] <dr_willis> install the opensshd service..
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[02:45] <ActionParsnip> jgspratt: what video chip are you using?
[02:45] <jgspratt> unable to locate package opensshd
[02:45] <jgspratt> this is a server
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> jgspratt: openssh-server
[02:45] <dr_willis> apt-cache search   is our friend
[02:45] <NSAgent> jgspratt: If it's a server, install Ubuntu Server and don't use the desktop livecd
[02:45] <NSAgent> jgspratt: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[02:45] <dr_willis> tab completion should also work for most of the apt commands
[02:46] <jgspratt> ubuntu server doesn't have a live cd?
[02:46] <dr_willis> it would be an INSTALL cd....
[02:46] <blackshirt> jgspratt, not really needed
[02:46] <dr_willis> since theres no live desktop to be live to.. ;)
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> jgspratt: you can press CTRL+ALT+F2 and run commands there, its like a liveCD yes
[02:46] <jgspratt> ActionParsnip: that's what I was looking for thank you sir!
[02:46] <dr_willis> why are you even wanting just a server install?
[02:47] <jgspratt> this is an ESX server
[02:47] <NSAgent> You sure it isn't a VM running on ESX?
[02:47] <dr_willis> oh that makes it SOOO clear... ;)
[02:47] <NSAgent> If it's an ESX server, you're about to kill it.
[02:47] <jgspratt> I'm at the box
[02:47] <jgspratt> it is literally on my desdk
[02:47] <NSAgent> Then you're about to kill i
[02:47] <jgspratt> i have a monitor plugged into it
[02:47] <NSAgent> *it
[02:48] <jgspratt> how am I going to do that?
[02:48] <jgspratt> I haven't even mounted the file systems yet
[02:48] <NSAgent> *if you install, you're going to kill it
[02:49] <jgspratt> I'm not installing it. this is a live cd for a reason
[02:49] <NSAgent> Then yes, live cd, control alt f2 to get to the console
[02:51] <theslow1> hey everyone, I have proper 3d acceleration after typing "sudo modprobe radeon"
[02:51] <theslow1> anyone know why radeon might not be the default driver set when booting?
[02:51] <brandon420> Best thing to use to burn .mp3 to a cd.......  GO
[02:52] <NSAgent> Isn't brasero there by default?
[02:52] <brandon420> yeah, it froze on me...
[02:52] <blackshirt> !radeon
[02:52] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[02:54] <alhosni> Hi all
[02:54] <alhosni> I've got a problem in ubuntu system you install wine program and then you install the program Steam and work well, but when I run Steam program after installation program appears without any written words sincere  Is the problem of wine or problem in my system
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> theslow1: if you run:  echo "radeon" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules    it will load at bot for you :)
[02:55] <dr_willis> alhosni:  steam has a native linux client thats in beta testing right now. ;)
[02:55] <nirvana> i know this is ubuntu, but i guess its the same. here is the thing. I have Backtrack on my partition and i want to overwrite it with windows 8, but when i tried it said something about the filesystem is not NTFS so i cannot install win8 on the partition. How to solve this?
[02:55] <milo64> hi
[02:55] <NSAgent> nirvana: ##windows
[02:55] <dr_willis> nirvana:  delete the partions  - let windows repartion as needed.. would be one way
[02:56] <milo64> nirvana: #debian para backtrack.
[02:56] <alhosni> How can i fix the problem
[02:56] <jgspratt> well, the ESX server fuse mount is being backed up to the USB mount now, I am happy to report.  got openssh-server installed, changed the root password of the live cd at the terminal, sshed in from my desktop, ran a cp.  I'll be back in the morning to see how it went, this 1.4T copy :)
[02:56] <nirvana> is backtrack based on debian or ubuntu?
[02:56] <milo64> nirvana: debian
[02:56] <milo64> technically
[02:57] <three18ti> milo64, they say on their website they are based on 10.04 (BT 5 anyway)
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[02:58] <three18ti> BT4 was based on 8.04 IIRC.
[02:58] <milo64> hm... i must have outdated info. then
[02:58] <alhosni> Is there no solve the problem in the writing does not appear on the program Steam
[02:58] <dr_willis> alhosni:  check the wine app database perhaps
[02:58] <dr_willis> alhosni:  ive had no issues with wine and steam here.. butim on a nvidia system
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> nirvana: backtrack is offtopic here
[02:59] <three18ti> wikipedia says debian though.
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> three18ti: why not ask in #backtrack-linux
[02:59] <blackshirt> three18ti, thats not important
[02:59] <three18ti> ActionParsnip, not me nirvana
[02:59] <Butcho> ActionParsnip, when I select any of the other nvidia drivers. My resolution is set to 1280x800, the display says laptop, I can't change it and everything is offscreen. The only thing I can do is rightclick the desktop
[03:00] <nirvana> can i ask many silly questions about ubuntu? like how to copy a file, delete a file, as long as it is a question related to ubuntu.
[03:00] <almoxarife> nirvana: yes
[03:00] <bkfitz> anyone know why i'd be getting a 'unable to connect' when using rdesktop to connect to win2003 server box that I know has no port restrictions and i know remote desktop works when connecting from another windows machine?
[03:00] <milo64> is it possible to print the inverted question mark and ñ in CLI and using US layout?
[03:00] <blackshirt> nirvana, yes,sure
[03:00] <milo64> .
[03:01] <almoxarife> bkfitz: you are firewalled?
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[03:01] <milo64> !details | alhosni
[03:01] <ubottu> alhosni: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[03:01] <Geothst> Well. I got Unity to stop crashing.
[03:01] <three18ti> !ask
[03:01] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[03:02] <almoxarife> bkfitz: can you ping the ip/port?
[03:02] <three18ti> !rules | nirvana
[03:02] <ubottu> nirvana: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[03:03] <three18ti> that's not the one either...
[03:03] <Geothst> I reinstalled X11, Unity, Compiz, and uninstalled Nouveau and NVidia drivers. Now I have no desktop. I just have a desktop background. I'm running xchat out of a terminal...
[03:04] <milo64> nirvana: if you would not behave. You may first like to check on: sudo rm -rf / :)
[03:05] <blackshirt> !danger
[03:05] <bkfitz> almoxarife: i'm vpn'd in and on my old laptop 10.04, i had no problems, now on my new 12.04 i have problems.  just checked and I cannot ping it.  <- confused
[03:05] <ubottu> DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!
[03:05] <alhosni> There is other problem in ubuntu  the massege : the system is running in low-graphics mode
[03:05] <almoxarife> bkfitz: if you cant ping it then you are firewalled somehow
[03:05] <Geothst> compiz is still giving me a bunch of errors when I run "Unity". failed to bind image to texture, failed to receive configurenotify event...
[03:05] <bkfitz> almoxarife: I believe ASA is preventing pings though
[03:06] <alhosni> your screen graphics card and input device settings
[03:06] <alhosni> could not be detected correctly you will need to configure these yourself
[03:06] <bkfitz> almoxarife: yes, but i'm almost positive 3389 is open
[03:06] <Butcho> Does anyone know why when I activate the nvidia drivers, my monitor is detected as 'laptop' my resolution is set to 1280x800, everything is offscreen and I can only rightclick the desktop ?
[03:06] <Sornaensis> hallo
[03:06] <bkfitz> almoxarife: will nmap host tell me or does it use pings?
[03:07] <milo64> is it possible to print the inverted question mark and ñ in CLI and using US layout?
[03:07] <almoxarife> bkfitz: nmap can do other checks besides ping
[03:07] <almoxarife> bkfitz: are you sure you are pinging the correct address?
[03:08] <bkfitz> almoxarife: yes on the address... via ip - what syntax of nmap should i use
[03:08] <alhosni> Ther's 4 choice : what would you like to do . 1- run in low-graphics mode for just one session   2-reconfigur graphics   3-troubleshoot the error   4-exit to console login
[03:09] <alhosni> I'm afraid of losing my important files
[03:10] <almoxarife> bkfitz: try -A -P0 -T4 -v
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[03:12] <wolfygang> Hi guys, on ubuntu im an admin but certain folders I can't view or edit permissions, because it says I don't have permission to access the folders, any advice?
[03:13] <dr_willis> what files/folders?
[03:14] <wolfygang> I think it's everything I install, they have a lock on the folder icon
[03:14] <dr_willis> and how are you trying to access them?
[03:15] <wolfygang> right click properties
[03:15] <wolfygang> and when i go into the folders certain ones say I don;t have access to view them
[03:15] <dr_willis> thats your USER that cant modify system files.. that makes sence
[03:15] <wolfygang> i tried sudo adduser <blah> admin
[03:16] <wolfygang> but it says im already an admin
[03:16] <dr_willis> that dosent give your user full rights to chage everyting at any time on the system
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: did you log off and on after adding yourself to the group?
[03:16] <dr_willis> that just gives you sudo access
[03:16] <wolfygang> Action: yes
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: if you run:  sudo -i     you can do as you please until you run:  exit
[03:17] <dr_willis> so your user, running the nautilus file manager,, you are trying to modifiy files in /etc/ for example?
[03:17] <almoxarife> wolfygang: try this, in terminal, 'gksu nautilus--no-desktop' , be careful what you do in that mode
[03:17] <nikolam> hi. is there a separate Freenode IRC channel for Ubuntu software center support?
[03:17] <blackshirt> throw away your windows behaviour :d
[03:18] <wolfygang> dr: yes
[03:18] <dr_willis> wolfygang:  thats how it works.. ;) its a feature
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[03:18] <syntroPi> Is there any possibility to get flash working properly with nvidia-current vdpau? I tried everything i found on google and either i have crashes, blue color swapped videos or no full screen support? Will this EVER be possible or is there simply no working flash for ubuntu and nvidia?
[03:18] <dr_willis> just being in the admin group does not meanyou can just go anywhere with the file manager and do things.. since the file manager is being ran as your user . not root.
[03:19] <wolfygang> almo: how do I leave that feature?
[03:19] <keith_> How can I lock the fn key on a macbook? I'm tired of having to press it every time I want to use my F1-F12 keys
[03:19] <dr_willis> wolfygang:  what are you wanting to edit EXACTLY? and why>
[03:19] <almoxarife> syntroPi: what is the connection between nvidia and flash?
[03:20] <dr_willis> wolfygang:  keep it in the channel. No need to msg me.
[03:20] <nikolam> I would like to be able to filter in/filter out proprietary software in software center. And to filter by other ways
[03:20] <djlynux> Hi Guys, any idea, when the libmesg pidgin patch will be released? I can see the f ix has already been released.
[03:20] <syntroPi> almoxarife, they simply dont work together
[03:20] <dr_willis> Hmm.. flash and nvidia are working fine for me..
[03:21] <dr_willis> I do tend to use flash-downloader plugins ;)
[03:21] <almoxarife> syntroPi: no true, works here on xbmc-buntu just fine
[03:21] <syntroPi> almoxarife, dr_willis, do you use nvidia-current?
[03:21] <wolfygang> dr: Ok I'm trying to compile a kernel for android, but im getting a 'Arm-eabi-gcc command not found" and i need to go into the folder to get the right paths, but it wont let me view the contents of the folder
[03:21] <dr_willis> syntroPi:  yes
[03:21] <alhosni> Linux operating system ubuntu was working with me without a problem and suddenly a message appears and returned to work and then returned the same problem does not accept entry After takeoff box appears entitled  the system is running in low-graphics mode Written underneath your screen graphics card and input device settings could not be detected correctly you will need to configure these yourself When you click on a word ok Box app
[03:22] <syntroPi> dr_willis, what did you modify and how to get it working?
[03:22] <almoxarife> syntroPi: yeap, the two are not the issue, if you have flash issues its a flash issue, only!
[03:22] <dr_willis> syntroPi:  i did... nothing special.. installed 12.10, installed the flash stuff..  it worked...
[03:22] <dr_willis> usintg the default stuff from the repos
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> alhosni: what video chip do you use?
[03:23] <syntroPi> dr_willis, almoxarife, i spend hours and tried everything i could find out there and it never worked on my box ever
[03:23] <dr_willis> wolfygang:  you may be needing to learn to use the shell  for some of what you are doing.
[03:23] <syntroPi> maybe by gpu is nuts or sth
[03:23] <dr_willis> syntroPi:  works with no hassles on my 3 nvidia systems
[03:23] <VanessaE> hi...  still trying to sort out this KMS vs. Radeon vs. suspend/resume issue.
[03:23] <dr_willis> and my 2 netbooks.
[03:23] <alhosni> I don't knew
[03:24] <almoxarife> syntroPi: how did you install 'flash', be specific
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> alhosni: run:  lspci | grep -i vga     what is output?
[03:24] <syntroPi> almoxarife, from the partner repo
[03:24] <almoxarife> syntroPi: specifically what package?
[03:25] <alhosni> now i can see only black screen
[03:25] <wolfygang> I do export CROSS_COMPILE=/home/dylan/ndk/toolchains/arm-linux-androideabi-4.4.3/prebuilt/linux-x86/bin/arm-linux-androideabi-
[03:25] <alhosni> the system not running
[03:25] <wolfygang> then make clean && make mrproper
[03:25] <syntroPi> almoxarife, http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.251-0precise1_amd64.deb
[03:25] <wolfygang> and i get arm-eabi-gcc command not found
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> alhosni: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and run it there, you can use CTRL+ALT+F7
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> !find arm-eabi-gcc
[03:25] <ubottu> Package/file arm-eabi-gcc does not exist in quantal
[03:26] <alhosni> i am Beginner
[03:26] <syntroPi> almoxarife, it even wont work with chrome and its ppapi
[03:26] <almoxarife> syntroPi: you are running 'precise' 64 i assume
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[03:26] <QuietStorm81> evening all. I'm having issues upgrading to 12.10. once the process tries to calculate the changes, it gives mean error saying I have held broken packages but when I run synaptic it tells me I have no unbroken packages. I'm using 12.04 and have disabled all the PPA's I was using in software sources.
[03:26] <Guest59993> any cs majors or anyone that know how to turn regular expressions into finite state machines on
[03:27] <QuietStorm81> any help would be greatly appreciated.
[03:27] <Butcho> ActionParsnip, you around?
[03:27] <almoxarife> syntroPi: does syslog complain about 'flash'?
[03:27] <syntroPi> almoxarife, nope i run natty 64 and will reinstall precise, before that package i used http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.243-0natty1_amd64.deb but i wanted to be on 251 branch for possible bug fixes. neither version is fine
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[03:28] <alhosni> I don't understand what you mean
[03:28] <srj235> I managed to block all protocols by default
[03:28] <srj235> with the firewall
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> Butcho: aye
[03:29] <syntroPi> almoxarife, nope but it crashes in ~50% of the time
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[03:29] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: https://gist.github.com/1055352
[03:29] <almoxarife> syntroPi: no idea, but i get the impression now you mix-match packages, good luck
[03:30] <VanessaE> is there a command I can run, some program I can install, that will force the screen back on on my laptop after suspend disables it?  (black/dead screen on resume.  Intel chipset, ATI graphics, Gallium3d driver - old radeon is the same way)
[03:30] <alhosni> What is the cause of that problem where the system was functioning normally
[03:30] <Butcho> ActionParsnip, tried all the various nvidia drivers. Can't get a working display. my monitor is detected as laptop, everythings huge at 1280x800 resolution, and everything off screen so I can't run anything.
[03:30] <syntroPi> almoxarife, yes as i said im really out of ideas since it never works on my box so i try everything i could think of
[03:30] <VanessaE> I mean a complete reset of the laptop screen, short of powering off/on the video device (unless that's trivial to do)
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> Butcho: have you tried tweaking in nvidia-settings
[03:31] <Butcho> it tells me I'm not running the driver
[03:31] <syntroPi> almoxarife, i even installed the proprietary chrome to try it out
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> Butcho: sounds liek a cheap screen, not reporting EDID
[03:31] <Butcho> works fine in nouveau
[03:31] <almoxarife> syntroPi: run a live distro, if it runs flash then you can discount the hardware, that leaves user and system install
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> Butcho: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot
[03:31] <Butcho> ActionParsnip, it's a apple cinema display 30"... anything but cheap :)
[03:32] <keith_> How can I switch the state of the Fn key? I don't want to press it unless I want to use the media buttons
[03:32] <Butcho> ActionParsnip, actually I did... made it worse at 800x600 resolution
[03:32] <ActionParsnip>  Butcho then it's missing EDID goodness
[03:32] <syntroPi> almoxarife, even tried that yet no luck
[03:32] <fengxiaolong> my english is very poor,who can give me some advice?
[03:32] <fengxiaolong> to improve my english
[03:33] <almoxarife> syntroPi: as much as it seems impossible then, your hardware cant handle flash
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> Butcho: cool, then use:   gksudo nvidia-settings    and set the res to something and click 'save to X server config'   you can then run:   gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:33] <syntroPi> i just hoped for adobe to cut support for flash for all platforms: web devs wouldnt use that shitty plugin anymore and problem would be solved once and for all time
[03:34] <xangua> !language | syntroPi
[03:34] <ubottu> syntroPi: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> syntroPi: it lives on in Chrome :)
[03:34] <syntroPi> almoxarife, my previous box with nvidia card didnt work for flash on linux either, seems its just no good combi
[03:35] <syntroPi> xangua, sorry im just upset
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> Butcho: you can then edit the xorg.conf file manually and setup the screen. Good screens do this all for you.
[03:36] <Butcho> ActionParsnip, I'll give it a shot. Hard to do all this at exploded resolutions when everythings off screen
[03:36] <mih1406> I want to help translate Ubuntu into Arabic, the Arabic team are not responding to my questions. What else can I do to get answers?
[03:36] <dr_willis> syntroPi:  there are flash-video-replacer plugins (you will have to google for it) that play flash videos from many sites in VLC or mplayer instead of flash in the browser.
[03:36] <dr_willis> syntroPi:  or use some of the various flash-downloader plugins
[03:37] <syntroPi> ActionParsnip, yes i know but the fullscreen is broken even in the latest chrome dev on my box
[03:38] <syntroPi> dr_willis, yes i know of those, ist just feels too crippled to use it like that
[03:39] <syntroPi> especially youtube wont support html5 on all its channels (wg those with adds)
[03:39] <dr_willis> hmm... not sure what you mean..  not all youtube videos are html5 anyway.
[03:40] <dr_willis> The plugins ive beenusing work great on youtube. i even use the plugins on windows.
[03:40] <blackness> how would i find every single file ? hidden, or not.
[03:40] <VanessaE> ok I got something here
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> syntroPi: why use dev, why not use stable....
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[03:41] <syntroPi> almoxarife, dr_willis: which nvidia GPU can you confirm to work with flash, nvidia-current and precise x64 with hw accel out of the box?
[03:41] <VanessaE> my black-screen-after-resume issue, if I do (as root), vbetool post - the screen starts working, but it is set to the wrong resolution etc.  How do I plug that command into the resume scripts so that it's executed before X attempts to "restore" the screen?
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest58258
[03:41] <ubottu> Guest58258: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.
[03:41] <almoxarife> syntroPi: please, leave me out of this
[03:41] <syntroPi> ActionParsnip, because the stable has that issue too and i thought maybe they fixed it in dev
[03:41] <dr_willis> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 530] (rev a1)
[03:41] <dr_willis> thats my desktop box
[03:42] <dr_willis>  I doubt if its a GPU vs flash issue... but do what you want ;)
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> syntroPi: did you uninstall all other flash packages etc
[03:42] <dr_willis> and i am on 64bit. 12.10
[03:42] <almoxarife> dr_willis: its not, or i would have one sorry experience on the home HTC
[03:42] <syntroPi> dr_willis, does that GPU run with nouveau too?
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[03:42] <syntroPi> ActionParsnip, yes of course
[03:43] <dr_willis> syntroPi:  during the install... yes. ;) i install nvidia-current asap.
[03:43] <almoxarife> its not nouveau either
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[03:44] <ActionParsnip> syntroPi: works fine here on 13.04 using Chrome 32bit
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> syntroPi: also works on 12.04 64bit + nvidia + Chrome
[03:44] <syntroPi> dr_willis, maybe my GPU is broken somehow, nouveau never worked on it with modesetting only with nomodeset (VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT215 [GeForce GT 240] (rev a2))
[03:45] <VanessaE> anyone?
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> VanessaE: are there any bugs reported?
[03:45] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: syntroPi says that a live distro does not run flash on his box, its the box, must be
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> VanessaE: I've seen people report that as soon as you try and wake up, wiggle the mouse
[03:45] <syntroPi> ActionParsnip, may i know which GPU works on your box?
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: sounds logoical
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> syntroPi: GeFore 6150 and some mid / low end Intel thing in a Dell Latitude D420
[03:46] <almoxarife> syntroPi: what hardware do you have, besides the nvidia?
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> syntroPi: do you have a switchable video chip?
[03:46] <VanessaE> ActionParsnip: multiple bugs across multiple laptops, chipsets, video devices - black/dead screen on resume.  But no official solutions.  So far if I do "vbetool post" from an ssh session, the screen wakes up but is severely corrupted.  xrandr can change resolutions and so forth, but that doesn't help.
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> VanessaE: its a real pain to get nice unles s it works OOTB, personally I don't see the point
[03:47] <syntroPi> almoxarife, nope the GPU is the only one on my system it uses intel p55 with core i7 860
[03:47] <VanessaE> in fact right now, aside from the garbled, flickering screen caused by "vbetool post", it's behaving completely normal - a (distorted) mouse pointer, responding to commands by ssh, screensaver, the whole smash.
[03:48] <syntroPi> ActionParsnip, nope only that gt240
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> syntroPi: yes, the core i7 860 doesn't have an inbuilt GPU :)
[03:50] <linkrules> hi guys
[03:51] <blackness> ive never seen a CPU with a GPU built in..
[03:52] <ripps> syntroPi: nouveau doesn't work with nvidia gt 240, specifically the the models that use gddr5 memory. I have one and the nouveau devs know it doesn't work, but they don't know why, and don't seem to be that interested in figuring it out at the moment
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> blackness: ivybridge and sandybridge not ring any bells?
[03:53] <blackness> yeah..
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> blackness: those have INtel GPUs built in them
[03:53] <syntroPi> ripps, yes i read tons of bug reports about it, and my card uses gddr5 1gb, i think i will have to buy a new GPU but i just dont know which one ...
[03:54] <ripps> syntroPi: what's wrong with the proprietary drivers?
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> blackness: its where this optimus mess comes from, one of those plus an nvidia gpu = optimus = headache in linux
[03:54] <dr_willis> i find its often worth while to stick with the hardware thats older from like a year ago. ;)
[03:55] <blackness> dr_willis, i agree...i NEVER buy something fresh off the line..always 6+months min.
[03:55] <syntroPi> ripps, flash is wrong the rest works pretty fine (vdpau and such), but sometimes x had some bugs too
[03:56] <dr_willis> plus its cheaper. ;)
[03:56] <ripps> syntroPi: hmmm... i use flash all the time, seems to work fine for me
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: by a large amount too
[03:56] <syntroPi> ripps, on wich GPU?
[03:56] <blackness> i dont understand, i installed ubuntu 11.10, installed python, perl, lighttpd, no X and its still using 15GB of space.
[03:56] <ripps> syntroPi: gt 240 1gb gddr5
[03:57] <ripps> im using the experimental 310 drivers in the quantal repos
[03:57] <blackness> ncdu shows the largest folder is, /usr/ how would i find every directory ? even those like this " " and ".*" ?
[03:57] <ripps> but everything seemed to work fine when i was using 304 too
[03:58] <frederick> hi everybody,i still can not use my digitizer(graphic tablet) in my ubuntu
[03:58] <frederick> i have already add a xorg.conf file in my xorg.conf.d folder
[03:58] <blackness> i thought Xorg.conf went in /etc/X11 ?
[03:58] <frederick> and add some lines in the rules file
[03:59] <frederick> blackness,i add it in usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[03:59] <blackness> ohh
[03:59] <frederick> my digitizer still only response the "click" behavior,but can not move cursor
[04:00] <frederick> andybody can help me?
[04:00] <syntroPi> ripps, i have here the gainward gt240 with 1gb gddr5, which manufacturer did you use?
[04:00] <zxcduc> hello
[04:00] <ripps> syntroPi: ah geez, i don't remember, give me a sec to look it up
[04:00] <zxcduc> Please help me
[04:01] <veryhappy> hi guys, better boot ubuntu via /boot or with the root partition?
[04:01] <frederick> anybody could help me with my installation of digitizer(grahpic tablet)?
[04:01] <frederick> please
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> frederick: I suggest you add to the bugs on launchpad and state what you know and have
[04:02] <frederick> Oh,ActionParsnip,i am just finding you,it's happy that you still here
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> frederick: add to the bugs
[04:04] <bkfitz> Anyone here that can help me troubleshoot a compromised 10.04 server
[04:04] <bkfitz> not sure how they got in
[04:04] <Gyro54> Hi!
[04:04] <ripps> syntroPi: it's an ECS NGT240-1GQJ-F
[04:04] <ripps> so, it was made by ECS
[04:05] <_syntroPi_> ripps, maybe the vbios settings on the gainward card are messed up somehow found it here http://www.gainward.com/main/edm/GT240/GT240_GD5_1G-golden.html
[04:05] <Gyro54> Where do I find Adobe so I can set the default program for Thunderbird?
[04:06] <jdk> hiiiiiiiiiiii
[04:06] <ripps> _syntroPi_: it's possible, you also might need to update your motherboard bios, I know of some mobos that had faulty pci-e buses that had problems with certain cpus, most were fixed with a firmware upgrade
[04:07] <_syntroPi_> ripps, yes already did that, even the latest beta didnt help
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[04:09] <ripps> syntroPi: sorry, all i can say is that mine seems to work fine. I'm not using Ubuntu Unity, but Ubuntu Gnome Remix, but I doubt that has any effect on flash and your other issues. How long have you had the card? Are you able to get a manufacturer warranty or replacement?
[04:10] <frederick> ActionParsnip,how could i add to the bug?
[04:11] <syntroPi> ripps, im not sure if its a faulty silicon works fine in windows, just suspect it has some weird bits in the vbios or such. I will try to use it with the gnome 3 on precise or quantal since compiz seems also to be known to cause problems with flash
[04:12] <frederick> anybody has experience of install no-wacom digitizer on ubuntu????
[04:13] <jdk> hi , I have a problem with gtk gnutella (your apper to be firewalled)
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> frederick: post on the page in the box at the bottom
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> jdk: doesn't that need some port forwarding on the router so it accepts connections
[04:13] <syntroPi> ripps, if that does not work i will have to trash that GPU hw and find one that works better for ubuntu, im just not sure how i could find the right silicon... already read on the nouveau wiki, but there isnt that one recommended model on there...
[04:14] <frederick> ActionParsnip,which page??
[04:14] <jdk> ii
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> frederick: search for the 8 character hex ID, it's how I found them
[04:17] <pahom> hi all
[04:18] <veryhappy> please all i need to know what is better to boot ubuntu via /boot or just the root partition /. thanks.
[04:19] <blackness> veryhappy, i dont understand your question.
[04:19] <blackness> your boot data should live in /boot, not /
[04:19] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  these days - im not sure it matters.. /boot/ on its own partion can be handy
[04:19] <blackness> dr_willis, how did you know he was talking about partition slices?
[04:19] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  ages ago there was a hardware limit the use of /boot/ on its own partion at teh start of the hard drive got around the limit.
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[04:19] <dr_willis> blackness:  thats the only thing that made sence. :)
[04:20] <dr_willis> You get ESP from hanging in here long enough
[04:20] <blackness> yeah i noticed that, but i didnt even notice, or think this..
[04:20] <escott> veryhappy, depends. if you have mdadm/lvm/luks/dmraid/btrfs then a separate /boot is needed
[04:20] <blackness> s/this/that
[04:20] <escott> veryhappy, although maybe not for btrfs these days
[04:20] <blackness> escott, you need a separate /boot for a encrypted OS?
[04:20] <dr_willis> If you want to get Fancy - you can have a big /boot/ partition and keep ISO files in it.. and set up grub2 to boot the ISO files.. for really really fast install/reinstalls ;) or fast booting of a live cd iso
[04:21] <escott> blackness, perhaps not. i dont know i dont bother with encryption
[04:21] <VanessaE> ok, how do I tell the system to run a command as the *very first thing* when it resumes from suspend?
[04:21] <blackness> dr_willis, i can do a full reinstall from usb in 10 minutes..
[04:21] <blackness> my system is encrypted, and i dont have a slice for /boot
[04:21] <jdk> <ActionParsnip: i can download files; but i can't upload (it said me i am firewalled)
[04:21] <escott> blackness, just trying to list all the things that could break a /boot
[04:22] <dr_willis> i have about 3 differnt ISOs in my /boot/ i boot from for specific needs. ;)
[04:22] <blackness> it would be nice if you can run the ISO as a liveOS and it grow as you require more space..
[04:23] <chuxxsss> ActionParsnip, still got the same problem with not be able to get software for repositrys
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[04:23] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: can you give some details please
[04:24] <veryhappy> i think i'm going with the extra boot partition
[04:24] <veryhappy> thanks!
[04:24] <veryhappy> take care
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> jdk: not something I use, is there a #gnutella channel ?
[04:25] <modem> hey, kvm is at the speed of regular qemu.
[04:25] <modem> i've tried modprobe kvm
[04:25] <modem> and executing as root
[04:25] <chuxxsss> http://pastebin.com/wsgd7AhZ  used script that you send me got this from bash.
[04:25] <modem> on archlinux, everything is up to speed
[04:25] <modem> how can i fix this?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> jdk: #gtk-gnutella seems to be the channel
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change gb.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com    and retry
[04:27] <chuxxsss> will do, ActionParsnip
[04:28] <modem> hello?
[04:28] <blackness> modem, Hello.
[04:28] <modem> hey, kvm is at the speed of regular qemu.
[04:28] <modem> i've tried modprobe kvm
[04:28] <modem> and executing as root
[04:28] <modem> how can i fix this?
[04:28] <escott> modem, #kvm perhaps
[04:29] <modem> hm.
[04:29] <blackness> that would be the best place modem, my servers dont support kvm so i use openvz
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[04:29] <blackness> so i couldnt help you :(
[04:29] <blackness> ActionParsnip, since when does the apt-get errors show "localhost:4401" ?
[04:29] <escott> modem, but "we hear you" we just dont have an answer
[04:29] <blackness> is that due to a VPN ?
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> blackness: could run a local mirror on the local pc
[04:30] <blackness> ohhh..
[04:32] <chuxxsss> http://pastebin.com/u0hVZeTu ActionParsnip
[04:33] <blackness> you cant install update chuxxsss
[04:33] <blackness> try apt-get update ..
[04:33] <blackness> if your trying to install the upgrades, do apt-get upgrade
[04:34] <chuxxsss> Will do, and Thanks
[04:34] <corvaxia> I am planning on running multiple partitions on my MacbookPro. If I want a separate partition shared between the two OS's, HFS unjournaled is the best option. Correct?
[04:36] <morphias> are there any devs online that could help me with packaging a program?
[04:36] <VanessaE> what series of commands do I run after getting vbetool to wake the screen up, to fully re-initialize it?
[04:37] <chuxxsss> http://pastebin.com/MaghvgJR  still going the same.
[04:37] <VanessaE> so far I can get back the mouse pointer (mostly stable, and responding) against a black, garbled, flickering screen.
[04:37] <VanessaE> What's next?
[04:37] <Seven_Six_Two> morphias, not me (sorry), but what aspect are you having trouble with?
[04:37] <blackness> morphias, are you building a .deb from a source code compile?
[04:38] <morphias> Seven_Six_Two, one minute
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> corvaxia: I'd go for NTFS
[04:38] <morphias> blackness, no.  i have one .cpp file and I want to learn how to make the deb package using the tutorial on ubuntu
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> morphias: look into checkinstall to make a deb of your efforts
[04:38] <corvaxia> That has read write privileges for both OSX and Ubuntu?
[04:39] <blackness> checkinstall is what you need, but you have to build the source into a binary before you can use checkinstall
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> corvaxia: not sure on MacOS. I'd assume so, Ubuntu definately can
[04:39] <blackness> morphias, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7272849&postcount=6
[04:39] <Seven_Six_Two> blackness, you mean you can't have a source deb?
[04:40] <blackness> no..if he wrote a program, and wants to build a deb for it, he has to compile the program (binary) and do sudo checkinstall after make.
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> blackness: doesn't checkinstall need a make file?
[04:40] <blackness> yes ActionParsnip
[04:40] <morphias> blackness, i am not using any make scripts.  i just used g++ to compile something simple
[04:41] <blackness> then you'll need alien i believe..lemme look around
[04:41] <morphias> blackness, thus i see other projects that have make scripts and the such and i am lost on that part.
[04:41] <morphias> lol
[04:42] <Seven_Six_Two> morphias, you don't know about make?
[04:42] <morphias> Seven_Six_Two, i have seen make when i compile other peoples projects but i never implemented my own ./configure make on a project
[04:42] <morphias> i only learned how to make a C++ file and compile it so far.
[04:43]  * morphias is new and trying to learn :/
[04:43] <dr_willis> Time to Take it to the next level. ;)
[04:43] <blackness> morphias, i believe this will help, http://blackness.sytes.net:8181/e49fb3f8-32cc-11e2-92e2-c5c8428f582c
[04:43] <dr_willis> make file for helloworld.cpp  ;)
[04:44] <blackness> you'll need dh_make dpkg-dev devhelper devscripts fakeroot lintan.
[04:44] <Seven_Six_Two> morphias, this isn't directly related to Ubunut, but a make file will make compiling your code infinitely easier when you get more than one file.
[04:44] <Seven_Six_Two> lol. Ubunut
[04:44] <morphias> lol
[04:45] <morphias> Seven_Six_Two, if you want we could talk in the devel channel.. just no one responded in there so i asked on here
[04:46] <blackness> morphias, did my post help you at all?
[04:46] <Seven_Six_Two> lol. ubunut.com forwards to ubuntu.com
[04:46] <morphias> blackness I am looking through it right now.
[04:46] <lotus2015> Hi, How can I see the right click menu "revert to previous version" of deja dup backup app?
[04:46] <blackness> Okay
[04:47] <almoxarife> Seven_Six_Two: your isp forwards
[04:47] <lotus2015> My system is Ubuntu 12.04 64bit and the version of deja dup is 22
[04:47] <Seven_Six_Two> almoxarife, fair enough
[04:47] <lotus2015> Any idea with that?
[04:47] <Seven_Six_Two> almoxarife, if I used their dns
[04:47] <Mukhthar> quit
[04:48] <almoxarife> Seven_Six_Two: fair enough :)
[04:48] <Seven_Six_Two> Mukhthar, /part
[04:48] <blackness> why cant people setup proxies properly..i reject HEAD :x
[04:48] <Mukhthar> Seven_Six_Two : how to quit IRC ?
[04:49] <Seven_Six_Two> Mukhthar, I thought that's what you were doing
[04:49] <almoxarife> i click the thingy on the top of the gui
[04:50] <Seven_Six_Two> almoxarife, are you talking to me? who has time for "gui"
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> blackness: never had to use one personally. Simple times :)
[04:51] <almoxarife> any rekonq gurus? where does rekonq manage file extensions from?
[04:51] <blackness> Well, these improper proxies, are causing damage to my python http pastebin :(
[04:51] <almoxarife> Seven_Six_Two: did you know cli has a gui?
[04:51] <almoxarife> !cli-companion
[04:51] <blackness> !cookie
[04:51] <ubottu> Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[04:52] <almoxarife> !clicompanion
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> !info cli-companion
[04:52] <ubottu> Package cli-companion does not exist in quantal
[04:52] <Seven_Six_Two> almoxarife, pfft. I use 2 wires on tip of tongue to read binary directly. cli is for babies
[04:53] <almoxarife> Seven_Six_Two: :)
[04:53] <pahom> hi all
[04:55] <almoxarife> !info clicompanion
[04:55] <ubottu> Package clicompanion does not exist in quantal
[04:55] <lotus2015> exit
[04:55] <almoxarife> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/clicompanion <-- there!
[04:56] <Seven_Six_Two> lotus2015, this isn't Bash
[04:56] <blackness> he quit :x
[04:56] <blackness> Seven_Six_Two, set a bind for "exit" so you can be faster..
[04:57] <Seven_Six_Two> blackness, like an autoresponder?
[04:57] <IdleOne> Take the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:01] <SpecialEd> Hey guys, I currently have an openvz hosted VPS Ubuntu 12.04lts server x64 machine that I'd like to migrate to my other VirtualBox host.  Is there a way to migrate openvz to vbox?
[05:01] <Gyro54> After upgrading Xubuntu Thunderbird has lost all the default applications for attachments.
[05:01] <chuxxsss> http://pastebin.com/VfS4cDpe ActionParsnip  has just stopped.
[05:02] <Seven_Six_Two> SpecialEd, you could use dd to make images of the partitions, then use dd to restore them to new machine
[05:02] <Gyro54> How can I find each application in the files?
[05:02] <Seven_Six_Two> SpecialEd, you likely only need /home /var /etc
[05:02] <morphias> blackness, oh wow i think i got it to work man... thank you
[05:02] <SpecialEd> 762: OK I'l look into that then, i do need more than /home /var and /etc tho
[05:03] <Seven_Six_Two> SpecialEd, that should be fine, I just mean that you're probably better off starting from an install, and then restoring everything else.
[05:04] <SpecialEd> well its a complicated LAMP stack
[05:04] <SpecialEd> so to go back through all the various installation configurations could really be a bummer
[05:04] <SpecialEd> lol
[05:04] <SpecialEd> but dd sounds very attractive to me
[05:04] <Seven_Six_Two> SpecialEd, most of the config should be in /etc
[05:05] <SpecialEd> yeah should be the key word :)
[05:05] <Seven_Six_Two> SpecialEd, /etc/php5/apache2  /etc/apache2  /etc/mysql   --  your configs are spread around?
[05:06] <SpecialEd> theres css and configs for the CMS installed in /var/www and theres apachesolr and others
[05:07] <SpecialEd> actually clonezilla looks interesting
[05:07] <SpecialEd> I used to work for a data backup company where we did P2V conversions (windows to VirtualBox VM) every 5 minutes
[05:07] <Gyro54> I use Clonzilla and it works great
[05:07] <Seven_Six_Two> SpecialEd, Amanda is another good one. It depends on your specific needs, really
[05:07] <SpecialEd> which we stored in ubuntu hosts with zfs
[05:08] <SpecialEd> well i dont have gui, as long as i can do what i need from terminal then im all good:)
[05:08] <WeThePeople> i 'upgraded' to natty kernel now software wont install, is this common with a kernel upgrade?
[05:08] <SpecialEd> will clonezilla/amanda make a VDI or any type of hard drive image file?
[05:08] <Seven_Six_Two> WeThePeople, what "software"?
[05:09] <WeThePeople> gimp
[05:09] <SpecialEd> WeThePeople: Did you update the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:09] <WeThePeople> and alot other
[05:09] <WeThePeople> no
[05:09] <SpecialEd> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[05:09] <Seven_Six_Two> WeThePeople, you need to update and upgrade
[05:09] <SpecialEd> Does that get errors?
[05:09] <Seven_Six_Two> WeThePeople, where did the kernel come from?
[05:09] <SpecialEd> like 762 said, run the command I gave above with root and u should be good to go
[05:12] <Seven_Six_Two> WeThePeople, reboot too.
[05:13] <VanessaE> so, how do I re-initialize the screen from a script?  I mean force the kernel or X or whatever to go through their normal startup/screen init routines?
[05:14] <WeThePeople> sevin_six_two, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1371795/
[05:14] <WeThePeople> seven_six_two, ^^^
[05:15] <Seven_Six_Two> WeThePeople, sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:15] <Gyro54> SpecialEd: Clonezilla can save as a file and run from the terminal
[05:16] <Seven_Six_Two> WeThePeople, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:16] <rgenito> i'm running ubuntu 12.04 ... is there a way to upgrade to 12.10 without burning the ISO to dvd and such?
[05:16] <WeThePeople> no dist-upgrade
[05:16] <WeThePeople> i dont like the new dist layout
[05:16] <WeThePeople> im on lucid
[05:16] <Jordan_U> VanessaE: Unless you want to restart X, you don't. What problem are you actually trying to solve?
[05:16] <SpecialEd> Gyro54: Thanks
[05:18] <Seven_Six_Two> WeThePeople, why would you be on lucid?
[05:18] <VanessaE> Jordan_U: When I resume from suspend, the screen is dead - black, no mouse - but the machine is alive and well.  I can ssh in, issue commands, the whole bit.  My only success thus far has been 'vbetool post', which wakes the screen up, gives me a slightly distorted mouse pointer which moves, and a completely garbled, flickering display.
[05:18] <Savage_CL> yes?
[05:18] <Jordan_U> VanessaE: Are you using open source or proprietary graphics drivers?
[05:18] <rgenito> WHAT! Seven_Six_Two ... you did NOT just answer my question before i asked...did you? @_@
[05:18] <rgenito> ;)
[05:18] <VanessaE> so I can turn the video back on with a command, but I can't figure out how to properly re-initialize it, so that I can just plug the appropriate commands into the power manager's setting.
[05:19] <WeThePeople> seven_six_two, i found a way to easily make my broadcom device work ie. upgrading to natty kernel
[05:19] <Seven_Six_Two> WeThePeople, are you trying to install from the old-releases.ubuntu.com server?
[05:19] <grendal> ok back to the problem from today.  Ntp in a kvm environment
[05:19] <VanessaE> I'm using the gallium3d driver, but this also happens with the old default radeon driver.  No proprietary on the affected machine.
[05:19] <grendal> this is making me crazy
[05:19] <rgenito> i'm running ubuntu 12.04 ... is there a way to upgrade to 12.10 without burning the ISO to dvd and such?
[05:19] <grendal> er
[05:19] <SwedeMike> rgenito: with a network connection, yes.
[05:19] <Jordan_U> VanessaE: If you ctrl+alt+F1 (to get to a text console) is that also garbled?
[05:19] <Seven_Six_Two> rgenito, sudo upgrade-manager -d
[05:19] <rgenito> SwedeMike, sweet :)
[05:19] <WeThePeople> seven_six_two, no from soft center
[05:19] <VanessaE> Jordan_U: yes.
[05:20] <rgenito> SwedeMike, how so? as Seven_Six_Two says? sudo upgrade-manager -d ?
[05:20] <Jordan_U> VanessaE: Please file a bug report (if one hasn't been filed already).
[05:20] <VanessaE> the appearance changes from one console to another - the one on which X is running shows a garbled version of X's display.
[05:20] <VanessaE> Jordan_U: where?  against what package?
[05:20] <Seven_Six_Two> WeThePeople, but that is an EOL distro, so the update servers have changed.
[05:21] <SwedeMike> rgenito: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[05:21] <VanessaE> Jordan_U: this sort of problem (dead screen on resume) has been reported by others across multiple video devices and system chipsets.  No one has come forward with a solution.
[05:21] <Seven_Six_Two> rgenito, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo update-manager -d
[05:21] <VanessaE> Jordan_U: so I am attempting to create a workaround that at least works on the affected laptop.
[05:22] <rgenito> SwedeMike, sweet! thanks :)
[05:22] <rgenito> and thank you as well Seven_Six_Two ! :)
[05:23] <Seven_Six_Two> rgenito, I didn't realize that there was a web walkthrough.
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[05:24] <VanessaE> Jordan_U: a point of note:  If I disable KMS, I can suspend/resume without any issue at all - except then gallium3d gets disabled and I'm dropped back to VESA mode.
[05:24] <Savage_CL> quit HIGHLIGHTING me
[05:24] <Savage_CL> lol
[05:25] <VanessaE> Savage_CL: *random highlight*
[05:25] <VanessaE> ;)
[05:25] <rgenito> awww man, that web walkthrough sucks
[05:25] <Savage_CL> Nah, Jordan highlights me
[05:25] <rgenito> ....i dont get the same prompt >[
[05:25] <Savage_CL> now, can someone type something like Jordan_a
[05:25] <Jordan_U> VanessaE: It's a KMS driver, so the code is technically in kernel, so in that sense I would say against linux, but you'll probably get better debug info from "ubuntu-bug xorg" so do that instead.
[05:25] <rgenito> looks like i'll do Seven_Six_Two's method!
[05:25] <Savage_CL> I wish to test if I fixed it
[05:25] <VanessaE> ok.
[05:25] <Jordan_U> VanessaE: Thanks.
[05:26] <Savage_CL> Jordan_U can you say your own nick, for me?
[05:26] <moose-machine> hi. i am installing a game using the .sh extention using the terminal. the installer shows the default installation location as my home folder; however i don't want it to save it there? Do you have any idea where usually are games saved by default, when running a .deb package? is it in /etc or in /usr or /var? thanks.
[05:26] <Savage_CL> usually it's in /usr/
[05:26] <Savage_CL> but it depends on the package
[05:26] <superfake123> is there a ppa for chromium stable that is actually staying current?
[05:26] <VanessaE> I suggest /usr/local actually.
[05:26] <Jordan_U> Savage_CL: For testing things please join #test.
[05:27] <VanessaE> (I've always installed stuff to there if it didn't come from the repositories)
[05:27] <Savage_CL> All I need is for someone to say your nick again
[05:27] <VanessaE> Jordan_U: *jordan's nick*
[05:27] <VanessaE> there. :)
[05:27] <Savage_CL> that's not fun. that highlights me.
[05:27] <VanessaE> odd
[05:27] <Savage_CL> because you used my name
[05:28] <Savage_CL> (I am Jordan)
[05:28] <VanessaE> ah
[05:28] <moose-machine>  VanessaE: that's great. I noticed that /usrlocal/games has a previous installation. thanks a lot. I will save it there. :)
[05:28] <VanessaE> moose-machine: no promises :-)  I'm just used to using that path for non-default stuff.
[05:29] <moose-machine>  VanessaE: :)
[05:29] <scigod> when using lubuntu live cd, i logout and try to login again, but i  input a wrong user name, how can i go back to change user name?
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[05:34] <Guest93357> What is the command to check connected socket in my system?
[05:34] <blackshirt> netstat -ntap
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> scigod: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and you can set password for the user there
[05:37] <blackshirt> why should bring down to console ....
[05:39] <Guest93357> blackshirt: Thanks
[05:39] <scigod> ActionParsnip,thankyou
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[05:42] <blackness> !behelpful
[05:42] <ubottu> As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.
[05:42] <|Nordom|> if a program is acting strangly how can u terminate it?
[05:42] <blackness> kill -SIGHUP |Nordom|
[05:42] <blackness> or -9
[05:42] <blackshirt> nordom, ctrl+c
[05:42] <superfake123> is there a ppa for chromium stable that is actually staying current?
[05:43] <|Nordom|> is there a command I can run in terminal?
[05:43] <blackness> google-chrome-stable superfake123 ?
[05:43] <blackness> |Nordom|, ps x, then kill -9 PIDHERE
[05:43] <|Nordom|> blackness: kill -programName?
[05:43] <blackness> no... -SIGHUP is signal hangup.
[05:43] <blackness> just use kill -9
[05:43] <superfake123> I don't want chrome, I want chromium D:
[05:44] <|Nordom|> okay I will try.. how ever its my IRC that is acting strange ;D
[05:44] <superfake123> for some reason chrome is very unstable with my audio/video. i get hickups and system freezes for like 1-2 seconds pretty often
[05:44] <superfake123> and I don't have that issue with chromium
[05:45] <Nordom> thx guys I got it to work!
[05:46] <blackshirt> greats
[05:46] <corvaxia> For a mac is there a better EFI option than rEFIt and grub? grub always acts so funky when loading up Ubuntu
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[05:49] <ActionParsnip> superfake123: it's in the repos
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> !info chromium-browser | superfake123
[05:49] <ubottu> superfake123: chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 20.0.1132.47~r144678-0ubuntu5 (quantal), package size 22391 kB, installed size 82066 kB
[05:53] <SpecialEd> Hey guys, I'm having a difficult time with Clonezilla.  Does anyone know of a "how-to" for making a raw disk image of a Ubuntu 12.04LTS Server from the command line?  I also should note that I do not have access to attach an ISO to the system so this must be run from the active server itself..
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> SpecialEd: you can use dd to make an image
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> SpecialEd: it won't be compressed
[05:54] <Seven_Six_Two> SpecialEd, that was my first suggestion to you. dd
[05:55] <xannen> hey, i have question re skype.
[05:55] <gustav__> Is se.archives.ubuntu.com not feeling well?
[05:56] <SpecialEd> ok thanks guys, i'll re look into dd again.  Since my new server has a lot more ram i'll actually be using clonezilla later for other operations, so nothing was lost on learning about it:) thanks again guys!
[05:56] <snkt> hello all
[05:56] <blackshirt> hello snkt
[05:57] <xirov> Hi! Are this channel for Ubuntu questions only, or are questions on specific apps/programs okay too?
[05:58] <blackshirt> xirov, especially related to ybuntu?
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> xirov: you'd probably be better asking in the channel for the language you are coding in
[05:58] <Gyro54> How can you tell Xubuntu to use Libre as the default program
[05:58] <wolfygang> Hey how do I undo gksu nautilus--no-desktop
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[05:59] <snkt> I m working on ARM based Embedded device.... It works with ubuntu 11.10.... I want to optimize its bootup time.... can anyone help me the bootup sequence of ubuntu?
[05:59] <gustav__> "Kunde inte ansluta till se.archive.ubuntu.com:http: [IP: 130.239.18.137 80]" Can't connect to se.archive.ubuntu.com.
[06:00] <xirov> blackshirt: no, not related to Ubuntu.
[06:00] <xirov> ActionParsnip: Okay :) I just haven't had much luck in the #gnuplot ch
[06:01] <VanessaE> Jordan_U: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1080993
[06:01] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1080993 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Dead screen on resume from suspend Dell Insp. 9200" [Undecided,New]
[06:01] <blackshirt> good luckk guys
[06:01] <VanessaE> hah@
[06:02]  * VanessaE kicks the bot for being excessively redundant.
[06:02] <Jordan_U> VanessaE: Thanks.
[06:03] <VanessaE> jeez, talk about a wall of text.  Perhaps I should try to be less verbose in the future :D
[06:03] <xannen> anyone know how to switch skype to single window mode?
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> xannen: not sure its possible, the client is proprietary
[06:04] <xannen> okay...
[06:04] <miyako> anyone had any luck with the netflix-desktop / wine-silverlight thing?  I'm having some issues getting it setup and the information right now seems rather sparse
[06:05] <superfake123> ActionParsnip, the latest version is 24, 20. is at least 6 months old I think
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[06:06] <ActionParsnip> superfake123: what is the difference between the versions?
[06:07] <wolfygang> Hey action when youre done helping him can you help me with my problem from earlier?
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> wolfygang: i'll try
[06:08] <superfake123> I don't really know. I've found this one that has version 25 https://launchpad.net/~a-v-shkop
[06:08] <wolfygang> its tha arm-eabi-gcc command not found
[06:08] <wolfygang> that**
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> superfake123: so why is the 20 version no good to you?
[06:10] <superfake123> I just need the latest for web testing. this ppa will do for now I guess
[06:11] <Akiva>  	
[06:11] <Akiva> "This WebEx recording cannot be played because Java is not enabled in your Web browser or you don't have JVM installed. " help me please. java is installed, what the heck??
[06:11] <tjmehta> Hello is there a max concurrent ssh connection limit on ubuntu (not as the server, but max number of ssh connections open as a client with multiple servers)?
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> superfake123: if the only way to get that version on Ubuntu is via PPA, why test using that version?
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> superfake123: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:a-v-shkop/chromium-dev; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install chromium-browser    for ver 25
[06:13] <qtip> so sometimes the ctrl+alt+# shell is active over the top of unity
[06:13] <qtip> http://i.imgur.com/xUMKv.jpg
[06:14] <dr_willis> Akiva:  it may want java 6 or 7 or whatever instead of the open sourced java
[06:14] <qtip> typing in a desktop program also types into the shell
[06:14] <gustav__> Switches to dk mirrors.
[06:14] <Jordan_U> VanessaE: It might also be interesting to see if you can reproduce the problem with Ubuntu 12.10, and with Fedora 18 (you should be able to test it from a LiveCD/USB rather than needing to install). I have a hunch that resuming properly will work in Fedora 18, and I'm curious to see if it does (though further fedora discussion should go to #fedora).
[06:14] <gustav__> "switched"
[06:14] <Akiva> dr_willis:
[06:15] <superfake123> ok thanks
[06:15] <SpecialEd> So I've been trying to use dd with the following command (in bold): dd if=/ of/tempdir/disk.iso but for some reason it doesn't write anything, do I need to dismount the OS to perform DD?
[06:15] <Jordan_U> tjmehta: No hard limit, though obviously you'll be limited by what your network can handle. Why do you ask?
[06:16] <dr_willis> SpecialEd:   what are you trying do use for the if? your command is toally messed up
[06:16] <jquip> Hallo, I have ubuntu 12.04 on a usb for installing it on a machine...  Thing is machine is UEFI enabled, while the usb only has grub in the boot folder....  I want to boot the machine using UEFI enabled...
[06:16] <jquip> Any help on that one??
[06:16] <dr_willis> SpecialEd:  dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1  (to make a clone)
[06:16] <SpecialEd> dr_willis: I am just trying to use dd to make a disk image of my VM's hard drive.  I do not have access to the host, just the guest
[06:16] <Jordan_U> SpecialEd: The if argument needs to be a file or a block device, not a directory.
[06:16] <SpecialEd> its a vm so there isn't /dev/sda1
[06:16] <Akiva> dr_willis: ghanks ill give that a try
[06:17] <SpecialEd> ./dev/simfs      200G   34G  167G  17% /
[06:17] <dr_willis> SpecialEd: your use of / is wrong. You dont dd a path like that.
[06:17] <g00053> hello how do I manage lvm partitions ? I see gparted can't do it
[06:17] <SpecialEd> thats what i get from df -h
[06:17] <Jordan_U> SpecialEd: And you should be *very* careful with dd, if you get something wrong you could whipe out all the data on your hard drive.
[06:17] <me2ersh> Hi All, Gnome shell is eating my processor, any ideas ?
[06:17] <dr_willis> SpecialEd:  or to image to a file... dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/media/somemountedpartiothatisnotsda1/file.image
[06:17] <SpecialEd> Jordan_U: I understand it operates at the block level, but when I do /dev/simfs I get this (in bold): dd: opening `/dev/simfs': Operation not permitted
[06:18] <jquip> I have ubuntu 12.04 on a usb for installing it on a machine which is UEFI enabled, while the usb only has grub in the boot folder....  I want to boot the machine  enabled UEFI
[06:18] <me2ersh> Hi All, Gnome shell is eating my processor / I am using ubuntu 12.10, any ideas ?
[06:18] <dr_willis> SpecialEd:  whats simfs?
[06:18] <SpecialEd> dr_willis: As previously stated this is a VM without access to the host therefore I can't add other media
[06:18] <Jordan_U> SpecialEd: What is the output of "lsb_release -d"?
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[06:18] <SilvereX> me2ersh, stick your finger down its throat and make it regurgitate it
[06:18] <SpecialEd> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[06:18] <dr_willis> SpecialEd:  where are you putting the image at then?
[06:18] <tjmehta> Jordan_U : building a service create live (editable) server-side code examples in the browser, right now the server holds ssh connections with all of the sandboxes hosting code
[06:18] <me2ersh> SilvereX, when i print the usage, it says 350% !
[06:19] <SpecialEd> dr_willis: to my new hosted dedicated server where I can have better control
[06:19] <Jordan_U> SpecialEd: Please pastebin the output of "mount".
[06:19] <SpecialEd> ./dev/simfs      200G   34G  167G  17% /
[06:19] <SpecialEd> thats the only line that matters on mount command, the rest is normal /dev /run /run/lock and /run/shm
[06:19] <dr_willis> SpecialEd:  so you need to dd through a sshtunle/pipe to a different machine?
[06:20] <dr_willis> ive never heard of a simfs so no idea on that.
[06:20] <Jordan_U> SpecialEd: Please follow my directions, I'd like to see the complete output of the command "mount", no more, less, or different.
[06:20] <SpecialEd> dr_willis: if i can have it write the dd to the same disk no, if i can't then yes i'll rsync through ssh tunnel
[06:20] <SilvereX> me2ersh, try killing the gdl_box process
[06:20] <Jordan_U> SpecialEd: And please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com .
[06:20] <SpecialEd> Jordan_U: Sure thing, it won't be any different than what I just told you though :)
[06:20] <SilvereX> And remove the gdl package as it's not supported
[06:20] <dr_willis> SpecialEd:  that would be recursive.. and you dont want to image a filesystem thats getting written to
[06:21] <SpecialEd> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1371853/
[06:21] <dr_willis> SpecialEd:  a different partion/filesystem on the disk may work
[06:21] <Jordan_U> SpecialEd: Please follow my instructions exactly. I asked you for the output of "mount".
[06:21] <SpecialEd> dr_willis: I agree but Windows does it all the time with Shadow Copies...
[06:22] <dr_willis> this isent windows.. and dd is a very low level tool.
[06:22] <dr_willis> filezilla perhaps could do it
[06:22] <SpecialEd> Jordan_U: my bad, here ya go: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1371855/
[06:22] <SpecialEd> dd works at the same level as windows shadow copies, block level
[06:22] <dr_willis> dd also dosent trim out empty space either.. a 100gb hd will make a 100gb image.. even if its 1% used
[06:23] <SpecialEd> but its either here nor there and windows is crap, ecspecially windows 8
[06:24] <Jordan_U> SpecialEd: You have a very odd configuration because this is a hosted container, not a default Ubuntu install.
[06:25] <SpecialEd> Jordan_U: yeah, as soon as I am done with this I'm gonna kiss that host good-bye
[06:25] <SilvereX> Hey guys, I'm trying to play TF2 on steam for linux, but I get an error that I need to update openGL
[06:25] <SilvereX> I've tried updating my AMD catalyst drivers but it didn't help
[06:26] <me2ersh> SilvereX, did that, nothing changed. I also have a blinking cursor on the screen, like there is an invisible terminal. may be this is the reason ?
[06:27] <qtip> me2ersh: does it look like this: http://i.imgur.com/xUMKv.jpg ??
[06:27] <rawfodog> I'm using the SHARED CONNECTION setting in network manager. Im sucking in wifi to computer a, and sharing it to another computer via the eth0 port. This works with my laptop running fedora, but when I plug it into other devices it doesn't work. I was curious if this is distro/windows manager specific or not. The other machine is yellow dog linux on an old mac g4.
[06:27] <SilvereX> me2ershm are you using mutter, compiz or metacity?
[06:27] <Jordan_U> SpecialEd: There is no real block device associated with symfs, it just maps files in your container to files in the host's filesystem. To do a block level copy you'd need to be able to access the host's hard drive (which also contains the files for all of the other containers on that machine).
[06:29] <Jordan_U> SpecialEd: In other words, dd is not an option for you.
[06:29] <SpecialEd> Jordan_U: OK that makes more sense to me now, I'm not familiar with SimFS.  Basically I'm trying to move files from a OpenVZ VPS system to my dedicated server where I have created a Guest VirtualBox VM  (All machines are Ubuntu 12.04LTS Server x64).  Should I just rsync / to / ?
[06:29] <dr_willis> sounds like a job for TAR!
[06:29] <SpecialEd> just like a V2V conversion
[06:30] <SpecialEd> or maybe scp / to / ?
[06:30] <Jordan_U> SpecialEd: You can do that, just know that there are probably a lot of configuration files that contain settings specific to OpenVZ containers, since that's what the system you're using now is.
[06:31] <SpecialEd> think I should try asking my hosting company if they can create an ISO of the OpenVZ server for me?
[06:31] <SpecialEd> i mean
[06:31] <Jordan_U> SpecialEd: rsync is the way to go, if you really want to copy everything. Though after the rsync your new "copied" system will probably fail to boot until you remove the OpenVZ specific stuffs.
[06:31] <SpecialEd> not hte openvz server, but my guest but have them create is for me from their server
[06:32] <SpecialEd> wow
[06:32] <SpecialEd> just ignore the last 2 things i typed, makes no sense, let me repeat
[06:32] <SpecialEd> sorry
[06:32] <me2ersh> SilvereX, no, i am getting you a video of it now
[06:33] <Jordan_U> jquip: How did you put 12.04 on the USB?
[06:33] <SpecialEd> Jordan_U: Could I ask my hosting company to go onto their OpenVZ server and create a raw disk image of my VPS server for me?
[06:33] <blackshirt> specialed, lxc was great and in kernel solutions
[06:33] <Jordan_U> SpecialEd: There is no raw disk to image, your container is just a collection of files in a directory.
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[06:34] <SpecialEd> ahhh, so its really a pseudo vm then
[06:34] <Jordan_U> SpecialEd: Exactly.
[06:34] <me2ersh> SilvereX, check this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y70BIb3BuJI this is what I see. this blinking thing is always there
[06:34] <dr_willis> Pesudo Virtual ;)
[06:34] <SpecialEd> closer to a type 1 hypervisor but guests are shared
[06:35] <SpecialEd> wow, I really hate my old hosting company now, why would they use OpenVZ when there are FAR better solutions for selling VPS such as VirtualBox?
[06:35] <qtip> me2ersh: I have that sometimes; it goes away if I reboot
[06:35] <SilvereX> me2ersh, Yeah, I was just about to suggest rebooting
[06:35] <blackshirt> far better ? Not always
[06:36] <me2ersh> qtip, SilvereX I rebooted many times, it never goes, and since it appeared, gnome-shell is eating the processor
[06:36] <SpecialEd> why not use vbox then?
[06:36] <qtip> me2ersh: wow, mine went away
[06:36] <qtip> try ctrl+alt+f1
[06:37] <blackshirt> specialed, there are some benefit on lightweight / para virtualisation like openvz or lxc compared to vbox or similar
[06:37] <qtip> and ctrl+alt+f7 to get back
[06:37] <qtip> that's the console that is showing up on mine
[06:37] <qtip> mine was the login prompt
[06:37] <the_dark_knight> Hi, I have one question. When I do sudo apachectl restart , it gives me error saying "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[06:37] <the_dark_knight> httpd not running, trying to start"
[06:38] <blackshirt> the_dark_knight, thats not a error
[06:38] <me2ersh> qtip, ctrl + alt + f6 changed the position of the cursor
[06:38] <Bustacap> Hey, will I be able to completely replace all of fedora by booting into ubuntu using unetbootin?
[06:38] <Bustacap> I'm out of blank dvd's :/
[06:39] <Jordan_U> Bustacap: Yes.
[06:39] <me2ersh> exit
[06:39] <the_dark_knight> blackshirt: so what is the problem?
[06:39] <blackshirt> just a warning
[06:39] <qtip> the_dark_knight: you're binding to the wrong ip probably
[06:39] <blackshirt> Check if your apache was started
[06:40] <Jordan_U> jquip: If you're still trying to boot via UEFI tomorrow I can help you then.
[06:40] <Bustacap> jordan, but using unetbootin adds it onto a section of the hard drive. How can I format the hard drive if I'm running the os off of it? Or does it boot it into the ram from the files on the hard drive?
[06:40] <jquip> Jordan_U: aww shucks thanks...
[06:40] <Savage_CL> bustacap you've been on Swift
[06:40] <Savage_CL> don't use unetbootin
[06:41] <the_dark_knight> qtip: I have 127.0.0.1 in my /etc/apache2/sites-available/default. but then why does it say 127.0.1.1 in the warning.
[06:41] <Bustacap> Savage_CL, ?
[06:41] <Savage_CL> shrink your current partition (with a gparted live cd)
[06:41] <the_dark_knight> qtip: no I didn't try 0.0.0.0
[06:41] <Savage_CL> create a new one
[06:41] <Savage_CL> done
[06:41] <Bustacap> I don't have anymore blank cd's or dvd's or a flash drive lol
[06:41] <jquip> I just have to get this done right now!! Boss told me to install it : Am trying http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntu-secured/files/ubuntu-secure-remix-12.04.1-32bits.iso/download
[06:42] <Bustacap> What would be the problem with unetbootin?
[06:42] <jquip> Jordan_U: that links seems okay???
[06:42] <Savage_CL> nothing
[06:43] <Bustacap> Does unetbootin boot the files into ram?
[06:43] <jquip> Jordan_U:  Am trying http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntu-secured/files/ubuntu-secure-remix-12.04.1-32bits.iso/download   .. . The guy behind it: Yannubuntu, he's the one who filed the bug report that UEFI booting doesnt work well with 32 bit ubuntu images
[06:43] <qtip> me2ersh: any luck?
[06:44] <me2ersh> SilvereX, qtip rebooting and switching to a previous kernel fixed it
[06:44] <Seven_Six_Two> Bustacap, it puts an iso on to usb for later booting
[06:44] <Bustacap> Seven_Six_Two, there is a hard drive mode
[06:45] <the_dark_knight> qtip: nslookup gave some output.
[06:45] <me2ersh> SilvereX, qtip  thanks for ur time :)
[06:45] <Seven_Six_Two> Bustacap, what's harddrive mode?
[06:45] <SilvereX> me2ersh, No worries mang
[06:45] <Bustacap> Seven_Six_Two, it's a mode of unetbootin to boot an iso from a hard drive if you don't have a usb drive..
[06:46] <dr_willis> Bustacap:  grub2 can do that - if you set it up right. :)
[06:46] <SilvereX> Whenever I try to launch TF2 from the steam linux beta client it says "Required OpenGL extension "GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode" is not supported. Please update your OpenGL driver.
[06:46] <SilvereX> How would I go about doing that?
[06:46] <dr_willis> but if you try to partion the hd the iso is on.. well.. that may get tricky
[06:46] <the_dark_knight> qtip: http://www.bpaste.net/raw/RRbQIMlBvVkheg3gS1k4/
[06:46] <jquip> Jordan_U :  So I'm guessing he created the boot with UEFI successfully... 64-bit was recommended but ..my machine is 32-bit.. so i'mma  try the 32, then the 64 bit image from the same site...  Good idea???
[06:46] <Bustacap> Ok, well I'm trying to get ubutu installed and replace fedora without a blank cd, dvd, or usb,
[06:47] <dr_willis> Bustacap:  do you have a seperate /boot/ partition?
[06:47] <Bustacap> And I'm impatient, and like a challenge :P
[06:47] <Seven_Six_Two> SilvereX, you need a new video driver. If your driver was automatically installed, it is likely not supported yet.
[06:47] <Bustacap> dr_willis, nope.
[06:47] <Bustacap> I don't think so.,
[06:47] <dr_willis> Bustacap:  or any extra partions that are ext2/3/4 and not in a lvm or any other weirdness. ;)
[06:47] <Seven_Six_Two> SilvereX, the option is likely not supported yet. Linux drivers are quite a bit behind the Windows ones. ATI and NV aren't super helpful.
[06:47] <SilvereX> Seven_Six_Two, I tried updating my AMD catalyst drivers but they're notorious for being broken
[06:48] <dr_willis> Bustacap:  if so.. you could set up grub2 on Freora to boot the iso file.
[06:48] <Bustacap> dr_willis, my only parition is fedora
[06:48] <dr_willis> Bustacap:  you could resize it i guess...
[06:48] <Bustacap> I'd still need a live cd of some sort for that
[06:48] <vas01> Hey Everyone,
[06:48] <vas01> I am currently conducting an internet usage survey for one of my university courses.
[06:48] <vas01> Can you please take a few minutes of your valuable time to complete the survey bellow.
[06:48] <vas01> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WCST6XN
[06:48] <vas01> The results will be posted once the data has been gathered and analysed.
[06:48] <FloodBot1> vas01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:48] <vas01> Best Regards,
[06:48] <Bustacap> Eh unless I unetbootin gparted live
[06:49] <Bustacap> Then shrink
[06:49] <dr_willis> i thought fedora used lvm or somthing by default. ;)  but i dont use it.. I have set up grub2 on ubuntu to boot an iso file from a differnt disk/partition and was able to install from ISO  to the rest of the hd that way.
[06:49] <RamchandraApte> vas01: please use #ubuntu-discuss so discuss about ubuntu
[06:49] <RamchandraApte> vas01: this is for support
[06:50] <vas01> RamchandraApte: sorry
[06:51] <vas01> RamchandraApte: do you know the best way of spreading my survey would be (specifically to students or life long learners)?
[06:52] <RamchandraApte> vas01: also, I don't have internet "sessions"
[06:54] <dr_willis> hmm., Now why would when i start up XBMC it turns off twinview/xinerama fullscreens on my 2nd monitor thats not set to be the primary monitor.. then when i close xbmc it dosent restore the settings...
[06:57] <amit> How to close a socket connection
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[06:57] <dr_willis> night all
[06:59]  * sean_ that awkward moment at the gym when muscle guy thinks IRC is a new supplement
[07:05] <himcesjf> Hi! Is there any channel for support specific to VNC/x11vnc on Ubuntu
[07:06] <kvothetech> himcesjf: what's wrong with your vnc
[07:06] <himcesjf> I'm not able to get x11vnc working after recent update. I've reconfigured DM for kdm over lightdm and here are the working, failed attempts - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1367286/ . What am I missing in the command?
[07:09] <jakepetroules> how can i fix the cause of the lintian error "control-file-has-bad-permissions" with an existing deb file
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[07:14] <DarwinSurvivor> I'm trying to get Ubuntu going on a desktop machine with a Radeon 3200 and Radeon 3850 graphics cards and had to set nomodeset to get it to boot
[07:15] <DarwinSurvivor> oh, hold on, just found the right wiki page
[07:17] <grendal> i cannot for the live of me get an ntp server workint
[07:17] <grendal> what the hell is the trick to this
[07:17] <himcesjf> kvothetech:  ?
[07:19] <almoxarife> grendal: its installed yes ? and the service started ?
[07:19] <grendal> ya
[07:20] <almoxarife> grendal: where does it get time?
[07:20] <grendal> this is a kvm host. i have a vlan with vms running on  10.10.0.0 subnet
[07:20] <grendal> umm the server gets the time accurately
[07:20] <grendal> i cant seem to connect the guest machines to read the servers time.
[07:20] <raj> how do I change a user's password via the terminal?
[07:20] <grendal> passwd username
[07:21] <raj> passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[07:21] <almoxarife> grendal: cant connect ? can you ping the ntpd? ip/port?
[07:21] <grendal> did you put in the username
[07:21] <raj> passwd: password unchanged
[07:21] <raj> yes
[07:21] <grendal> does the user exist
[07:21] <raj> is the problem that I'm that usernmae now?
[07:21] <raj> or do I need sudo?
[07:22] <grendal> ya you will probably need to be sudo
[07:22] <grendal> sudo -s
[07:22] <grendal> then password for the user you are..then passwd username
[07:22] <raj> yes, that was it
[07:22] <raj> thanks
[07:22] <grendal> np
[07:22] <raj> what's sudo -s?
[07:22] <grendal> sticky
[07:22] <raj> I didn't do that
[07:22] <grendal> it stays there so you dont have to type in sudo with every command
[07:22] <raj> meaning don't go away until I unsudo?
[07:22] <grendal> it makes you root
[07:23] <grendal> fknaright
[07:23] <raj> k
[07:23] <raj> thanks
[07:23] <grendal> np
[07:23] <grendal> almoxarife, ok so ya i can ping it...the host is bridged to the..network via ip 10.10.0.254...hey i got an idea
[07:24] <grendal> you ever used teamviewer?
[07:26] <wanksta> hi
[07:27] <grendal> almoxarife, dude
[07:27] <DarwinSurvivor> Ok, I've tried the steps at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI with no luck (aticonfig returns "No supported adapters detected")
[07:28] <almoxarife> grendal: yes?
[07:28] <DarwinSurvivor> the 2 graphics cards are Radeon HD 3200 and Radeon HD3850
[07:28] <grendal> you get my chat request?
[07:28] <grendal> private?
[07:28] <almoxarife> grendal: i dont get those, ignore all
[07:29] <grendal> oh..damn well i was going to give you conference screen so you could see the screen here.
[07:29] <almoxarife> grendal: did you have a question?
[07:29] <grendal> yep...this ntp thing is going to kill me
[07:29] <grendal> its up its running
[07:30] <grendal> but i canot connect to it with my guest machines
[07:30] <jacta> How can I explode this url best way: http://test.com/cykler/herre/avenue/ - explode gives me 0 and 4 blank - i want only the one after .com/  and it can be five, two, or more
[07:30] <jakepetroules> found my answer; just needed fakeroot
[07:30] <almoxarife> grendal: network issue? pinged it?
[07:30] <grendal> i can ping the server, i can ssh to it, i can...do all kinda of thangs with the sever..but cant seem to get ntp from it
[07:31] <almoxarife> grendal: the npt client pointing to the correct ip/port?
[07:31] <grendal> 10.10.0.254:123
[07:32] <almoxarife> grendal: that means nothing to me, lets see the conf for the client and the deamon
[07:32] <Jordan_U> jquip: It's *very* rare to find 32 bit UEFI hardware, are you sure that's what you have?
[07:33] <grendal> i can ntpstrace it
[07:33] <grendal> 10.10.0.254: stratum 16, offset 0.000000, synch distance 0.000000
[07:33] <grendal> but, it does not sync to the same time
[07:34] <Jordan_U> jquip: How did you put 12.04 on the USB?
[07:34] <jquip> izzit?? lolz.. dear me.. :) yep.. dat's what the windows system sayeth
[07:35] <almoxarife> grendal: lets see the conf for the client and the deamon, pastebin them
[07:35] <jquip> usb-creator-gtk ?
[07:35] <almoxarife> daemon too
[07:35] <jquip> Jordan_U: usb-creator-gtk ...
[07:36] <Jordan_U> jquip: That doesn't prepare USB drives to be booted via UEFI (or didn't last time I looked).
[07:36] <jquip> Jordan_U : erm.. Not a good idea??
[07:36] <DarwinSurvivor> I don't really need the 3200 working (though I need it to not prevent the machine from booting without nomodeset) both monitors are connected to the 3850
[07:37] <jquip> Jordan_U: uhoh.. okay.. just read your message..
[07:37] <Jordan_U> jquip: Why do you think that you have a 32 bit machine with UEFI firmware?
[07:38] <jquip> ahahha  :D  Well the Windows 7 is on it.. says its 32-bit...   Boot screen-> American Megatrends-> Boot Compliance: UEFI 2. something
[07:39] <jquip> s/the//
[07:39] <almoxarife> grendal: look at the ntp log too for anything abbynormal
[07:39] <jquip> s/the//g
[07:39] <grendal> ya ive been doing that all night
[07:39] <grendal> but there is just a statistics log
[07:39] <grendal> damon log says nothing about it
[07:40] <grendal> getting past together
[07:40] <Jordan_U> jquip: It may be a 32 bit Windows installation, but you probably have a 64 bit CPU and 64 bit UEFI firmware.
[07:40] <jquip> but but.. its windows???
[07:40] <jquip> how would it be so smart to allow that??
[07:41] <Jordan_U> jquip: What is the model of the computer you're using?
[07:41] <jquip> Jordan_U : erm... 32-bit I still think -> Atom CPU
[07:42] <almoxarife> jquip: i bought a lappy with 32bit win, then i found out i had a 64bit machine by accident
[07:42] <jquip> almoxarife: hoo boy ain't you lucky!!
[07:43] <jquip> okay... so there's good reason to check with 64-bit linux  instead..
[07:43] <grendal> almox
[07:43] <grendal> almoxarife, http://pastebin.com/SHHj3XUi
[07:43] <Jordan_U> jquip: There are 64 bit Atom CPUs, but yest that does make it seem more likely to be 32 bit while still having UEFI. I really do need to leave now though. If you're lucky then you have a 64 bit machine, and the easiest thing to do is th burn the standard 64 bit Ubuntu iso to a CD/DVD and boot from that (note those were very specific instructions, and every part of them is important).
[07:44] <jquip> Valid point ! Jordan_U take care eh! Thanks! Cheers..
[07:45] <jquip> I'll try both.. 32 at first
[07:45] <jquip> cause its downloaded already...
[07:45] <jquip> okay.. before you go Jordan_U
[07:46] <jquip> Boot shows Intel Atom CPU D2500
[07:46] <joar> hello
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[07:47] <joar> unetbootin on Debian wheezy doesn't seem to be able to create 12.10 x64 bootable USBs
[07:49] <almoxarife> jquip: you have a 64bit machine
[07:49] <jquip> WhAAAA????
[07:49] <jquip> Are you serious???
[07:49] <almoxarife> jquip: you should run 64bit os
[07:50] <jquip> Yay!!!
[07:50] <almoxarife> http://ark.intel.com/products/59682/Intel-Atom-Processor-D2500-1M-Cache-1_86-GHz <-- look down to 'advanced technologies
[07:50] <almoxarife> http://ark.intel.com/products/59682/Intel-Atom-Processor-D2500-1M-Cache-1_86-GHz <-- look down to 'advanced technologies jquip
[07:51] <jquip> okay..  almoxarife.. You win!!
[07:51] <jquip> And I winnnnn too! :D
[07:52] <almoxarife> jquip: what it may not do is 'virtualize' , dont ask me, mine does not, something to do with having half a 64bit, the cpu is but the mother board is not, or perhaps you got the full monty'
[07:52] <himcesjf> I'm not able to get x11vnc working after recent update. I've reconfigured DM for kdm over lightdm. x11vnc fails to start on the host system. Here are the past working and current failed attempts - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1367286/ . What am I missing in the command?
[07:52] <jquip> oh... darn.. like that eh?
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[07:53] <almoxarife> jquip: hell with the 32bit install, start over with the 64, its worth it, faster
[07:53] <jquip> almoxarife: haha yeahhh okay :D
[07:54] <elsifaka> hey people!
[07:54] <jquip> downloading rite away sah..
[07:55] <elsifaka> does anyone knows where the HP proliant softwares for precise are?
[07:55] <almoxarife> jquip: Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x)	No , yeap, you in the same boat, just dont expect to run virtual machines in their full glory, other than that i dont see any diff
[07:57] <grendal> almoxarife,  sorry got bounced
[07:58] <grendal> so i got two machine (both kvm hosts) on two diff networks.  machine A keeps getting faster
[07:58] <jquip> almoxarife: hrmm... okay..so.. it should be fine... i dont run VM's much... but 64-bit is the way to go then I guess?
[07:58] <grendal> config files are identical
[07:58] <grendal> 64 bit vms are the bomb
[07:59] <almoxarife> jquip: it will run virtualbox just fine, it wont be able to use the (VT-x) option, small price to pay
[07:59] <grendal> vt-x ? hardware hooks?
[08:00] <almoxarife> jquip: in virtual you will need to stick with 32bit os's
[08:01] <jquip> oh that's okayyy... not a biggie...
[08:01] <DarwinSurvivor> ok, so apparently the graphics card is 100% not supported any more. Does anyone know how to turn on nomodeset by default?
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[08:01] <grendal> nope. but i do have a lot of really good shortbread cookies my daughter made
[08:01] <almoxarife> DarwinSurvivor: set it in the kernel line of /etc/default/grub
[08:01] <jquip> almoxarife : just tried the 32 bit image.. 64-bit downloading now... just booted straight into windows...
[08:01] <grendal> anyone want one?
[08:01] <jquip> :(
[08:02] <almoxarife> jquip: you talking about a live-cd?
[08:02] <grendal> jquip, why would you do that..windows will give you psyphilus
[08:03] <grendal> at least thats what i heard
[08:03] <almoxarife> !ot | grendal
[08:03] <ubottu> grendal: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[08:03] <grendal> im sorry
[08:03] <jquip> almoxarife: ermmm... a live-usb created via usb-creator-gtk ... wrong??   grendal: lolz you dun gone crazy!
[08:03] <grendal> i sorry
[08:04] <almoxarife> jquip: did you setup the machine to boot from usb?
[08:04] <jquip> yes yes
[08:04] <grendal> what are you trying to do exactly..(i missed that part selfish me) i run vm's on several diff types of hosts.
[08:05] <pradeep> how can i have only one work space
[08:05] <DarwinSurvivor> almoxarife: the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" line?
[08:05] <almoxarife> DarwinSurvivor: exactly
[08:05] <pradeep> i want to remove workspace switcher too
[08:05] <jquip> grendal: Just trying to get linux on this netbook that i have..
[08:05] <grendal> o
[08:05] <grendal> i thought you were having a problem with virutalization
[08:06] <DarwinSurvivor> almoxarife: thanks. one that thing, how do I change which boot option (ex: ubuntu vs other-os) is the default?
[08:06] <jquip> almoxarife: aha ! ubuntu is booting
[08:06] <DarwinSurvivor> almoxarife: I see GRUB_DEFAULT=0, but no indication of which id is for which OS
[08:06] <grendal> grrrr... almoxarife you look at those pastbins?
[08:06] <jquip> sorry my bad
[08:07] <almoxarife> DarwinSurvivor: count down, find the line that would be the other, which is it?
[08:07] <grendal> its ok.. jquip we forgive you...this time.
[08:07] <jquip> there are two boot priority settings in boot and I needed to select both of 'em
[08:07] <jquip> weird.. that was
[08:07] <DarwinSurvivor> almoxarife: won't that change if/when new kernels are added?
[08:08] <grendal> salright this time. but next time ..oh there will be consequences
[08:08] <almoxarife> DarwinSurvivor: or pastebin your /etc/default/grub file
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[08:08] <almoxarife> DarwinSurvivor: not with new kernels, unless you mean new installed os's
[08:08] <DarwinSurvivor> almoxarife: ok, I think it was the 3rd one, will have to reboot to verify
[08:09] <almoxarife> DarwinSurvivor: if its the third then the choice is actually numeral (2), it counts from zero
[08:10] <DarwinSurvivor> hmm, just rebooted and it's the 5th, so that would be id 4. ok
[08:10] <almoxarife> DarwinSurvivor: exactly
[08:10] <puppy_parade> why is compiz eating 90% of my CPU while trying to watch a video and failing?
[08:11] <the_dark_knight> Hi, my phpinfo() doesn't have "$_SERVER['PATH_INFO']" variable in the "php variables" section. How should I bring this variable. I have searche and found something - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2261951/what-exactly-is-path-info-in-php  . But I don't know where to put - AcceptPathInfo directive. Please help. Can't connect to #php.
[08:11] <nicekiwi> how do I boot ubuntu in console only mode? no X running etc.
[08:11] <nicekiwi> into*
[08:11] <kuckuck> Guten Morgen
[08:13] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: dont have a option for that at grub menu?
[08:13] <almoxarife> !de
[08:13] <ubottu> In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!
[08:13] <puppy_parade> ><
[08:14] <puppy_parade> still can't push 1440p on 12.10
[08:14] <almoxarife> puppy_parade: its hard to say, can you pastebin /var/log/syslog
[08:14] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, no. Only for recovery which mounts the harddrive in readonly mode
[08:15] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: there is always control-alt-f1/f5
[08:15] <Jordan_U> jquip: I'm actually back by the way, though it looks like you're set.
[08:16] <puppy_parade> almoxarife, all I'm seeing is apt-demon and avahi-daemon
[08:16] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, that dosnt kill X
[08:16] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: no, it does not
[08:17] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, so.. kinda not a solution for booting..
[08:18] <chuxxsss> Hi all, again.  I have really stuff my package manager up this time for good I think.
[08:19] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: probably not, killing it after the fact wont work?
[08:19] <Jordan_U> DarwinSurvivor: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[08:19] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: What exactly are you trying to do?
[08:20] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, boot into commanline
[08:20] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: but not single-user mode?
[08:20] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, no..
[08:21] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, and passing 'quiet splash text' ar brug just gives me a blank screen
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[08:21] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: leave off "quiet splash" and tell me what happens
[08:22] <almoxarife> gordonjcp: that will still boot into the graphics, minus those two options
[08:23] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, just a blank screen
[08:23] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: is this a temp thing? or permanent?
[08:23] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: totally totaly blank?
[08:23] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: nothing *ever* comes up?
[08:23] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, temporary to install drivers.
[08:23] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, nope, never. The monitor says it has signal but its just black
[08:24] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: then why not kill xorg do the install then reboot?
[08:24] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: so at no point after hitting the power button do you see *anything*?
[08:24] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, could o i guess, just so annying thatit wont work in 12.10, worked 100% fine in 12.04
[08:25] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: what is the actual issue?
[08:25] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, after the bios screen and after hitting CtrlX after modifying grub nothing.
[08:25] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, I want to boot into commandline to install drivers.
[08:25] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: that's not actually possible
[08:25] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: it sounds like your computer is broken
[08:25] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: then why not kill xorg do the install then reboot?
[08:26] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, what do you mean?
[08:26] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: if you remove "quiet splash" from the boot options and put "text" there, you should at least see the boot messages
[08:26] <helloworldpp> esc #
[08:26] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: okay, try "nomodeset text"
[08:27] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, I do not.
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[08:27] <nicekiwi> k
[08:28] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, still black
[08:28] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: broken monitor?
[08:28] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: are you rebooting, i cant tell from this client
[08:28] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, boot messages never seemed to show normally with nvidia drivers installed anyways.
[08:28] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, monitor works 100%
[08:29] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: at this point the drivers are irrelevant
[08:29] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: did you install nvidia-current?
[08:29] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, I am rebooting
[08:29] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: they're not used until X starts
[08:29] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, correct
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[08:29] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: then what are you having to go down to no graphics for?
[08:30] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, to install beta nvidia drivers
[08:30] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: i see, good luck
[08:30] <nicekiwi> it seems if I hit Ctrl+Alt+F2 once the screen goes black I reveals text login screen
[08:30] <nicekiwi> very odd
[08:31] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: not odd, its a terminal screen
[08:32] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, very odd actually.. now how do I run a .run file? 0_o
[08:32] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: xorg is still running
[08:33] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, incorrect
[08:33] <almoxarife> ok
[08:33] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, the Nividia installer which is currently running would crash and burn if so
[08:33] <almoxarife> ok
[08:34] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, thats for ur help in anycase, i realise my reponses didnt make a lot of sense
[08:35] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: wait, are you using the nvidia installer from the nvidia site?
[08:35] <almoxarife> gordonjcp: of course
[08:35] <almoxarife> the big secret
[08:37] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, yes
[08:38] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, 0_o secret?
[08:38] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: how does your install last thru the next kernel update?
[08:38] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, it dosnt, i simply reinstal untill the stable nvidia is released and aded to the ubuntu repos
[08:38] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: hmm, keep some install media handy
[08:39] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, why that?
[08:39] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: I hope it works for you
[08:39] <gordonjcp> I don't have much confidence in that though
[08:39] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: did the hardware and the graphics card comeout last week?
[08:39] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, no?
[08:39] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: did the hardware and the graphics card comeout last week? last month?
[08:40] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, no?
[08:40] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: ok
[08:40] <nicekiwi> 3 or 4 years old i guess
[08:40] <nicekiwi> maybe a bit less
[08:40] <ionwind> hello
[08:41] <nicekiwi> almoxarife, one word. Valve.
[08:41] <ionwind> i have problem with flash and chromium
[08:41] <Krambiorix> Nov 20 09:34:19 mx1 postfix/master[1674]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/tlsmgr: bad command startup -- throttling            What can i do about it?
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[08:41] <almoxarife> nicekiwi: ok, i hope it works out for you then
[08:41] <Krambiorix> the whole error is: Nov 20 09:40:24 mx1 postfix/tlsmgr[1949]: fatal: open database /var/lib/postfix/smtpd_scache.db: Invalid argument
[08:41] <Krambiorix> Nov 20 09:40:25 mx1 postfix/master[1674]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/tlsmgr pid 1949 exit status 1
[08:41] <Krambiorix> Nov 20 09:40:25 mx1 postfix/master[1674]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/tlsmgr: bad command startup -- throttling
[08:42] <almoxarife> Krambiorix: stop already
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[08:43] <almoxarife> !flash
[08:43] <ubottu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:44] <ionwind> it try all these
[08:45] <Krambiorix> almoxarife, ???
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[08:46] <almoxarife> Krambiorix: yes?
[08:46] <Krambiorix> <almoxarife> Krambiorix: stop already
[08:47] <almoxarife> Krambiorix: yes, dont use the channel as a pastebin
[08:47] <Krambiorix> almoxarife, ok will do
[08:48] <flynsarmy> /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build: No such file or directory <-- how do i get that directory to exist?
[08:49] <almoxarife> flynsarmy: you compiling from source?
[08:49] <flynsarmy> almoxarife: no, installing acpi_call module
[08:50] <Krambiorix> this is my problem, anyone a solution? http://pastebin.com/dvpwaaA3
[08:51] <iamzim> flynsarmy: build folders usually have os after them, build_unix
[08:51] <almoxarife> flynsarmy: i would say you are missing dev files/packages from the looks of it
[08:51] <flynsarmy> iamzim, almoxarife: it's just a package i need to install, i've done it before. forgot thte package though
[08:52] <subdesign> anybody has problem setting wallpapers with Unubu Tweak ?
[08:53] <subdesign> *Ubuntu
[08:53] <almoxarife> Krambiorix: i googled it for you,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1504775 , someone has seen that before
[08:55] <Krambiorix> almoxarife, yes, i did that already but the messages won't go away
[08:56] <almoxarife> Krambiorix: no idea, i dont allow that service to run, not sure what i am missing
[08:57] <gordonjcp> almoxarife: which "service"?
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[08:57] <almoxarife> postfix
[08:57] <ionwind> thanks i try again
[08:57] <gordonjcp> almoxarife: ...
[08:57] <almoxarife> postfix gordonjcp
[08:57] <gordonjcp> almoxarife: yes, I'm just surprised that a) you don't know what it is, b) you didn't bother to check what it is, and c) you stopped it running without bothering to check what it is
[08:58] <gordonjcp> almoxarife: run, *now*
[08:58] <gordonjcp> almoxarife: that's the thing that stops it becoming Skynet
[08:58] <almoxarife> gordonjcp: i do know, i didnt need the chatter in the mailbox
[08:58] <gordonjcp> almoxarife: heh
[08:59] <gordonjcp> almoxarife: if you're not actually running a mail server, you can get rid of it
[08:59] <almoxarife> gordonjcp: yes
[09:00] <almoxarife> gordonjcp: and i assume mailbox servers on ubuntu machines are evildoers too
[09:01] <Chartax> Hey folks, I don't have much time to stay and diagnose this at the moment, but I thought it might be worth a shot: Windows 7 Software RAID in Ubuntu
[09:01] <iceroot> almoxarife: normally you always need a MTA (mail transport agent)
[09:02] <pradeep> hey, community  i am new to ubuntu how can i have only one work space
[09:02] <Chartax> Is there any way I can get access to it without having to break the array?
[09:02] <iceroot> almoxarife: on every unix/linux system
[09:02] <jackiechan0> Is there someone English Motherlanguage ?
[09:02] <iceroot> jackiechan0: #english
[09:02] <almoxarife> iceroot: is that the postfix service?
[09:02] <jackiechan0> ice799: thanks
[09:02] <iceroot> almoxarife: yes, postfix is the default MTA in ubuntu
[09:02] <jackiechan0> iceroot: thanks
[09:03] <agu10^> how do people contribute with me on open source software?
[09:04] <gordonjcp> agu10^: that sounds like a question you should take to #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)
[09:04] <agu10^> ok
[09:05] <almoxarife> iceroot: i had to check, didnt want to talk out of turn, service postfix is not running, and i email just fine
[09:05] <DarwinSurvivor> jordan: I'm using 12.10 (64 bit)
[09:05] <almoxarife> DarwinSurvivor: :)
[09:06] <vthakkar> Hey Guys
[09:06] <vthakkar> I have a question about linux signals
[09:06] <vthakkar> Is this the right channel for this question
[09:06] <vthakkar> I am using IRC for the first time
[09:07] <almoxarife> vthakkar: welcome
[09:07] <vthakkar> Hi
[09:07] <DarwinSurvivor> vthakkar: best to just ask the question, if it's not appropriate for the channel, someone will direct you to the appropriate channel
[09:07] <vthakkar> Ok, so the question is the following
[09:08] <vthakkar> I have a parent process which periodically does wait() and terminates when the child process exits and returns it's status
[09:09] <vthakkar> Now I want that when the child process terminates, the parent process should come out of sleep immediately and do the processing required
[09:09] <vthakkar> how do I do that in linux
[09:09] <vthakkar> ?
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[09:10] <auronandace> vthakkar: perhaps ##linux is a better channel to ask in
[09:11] <vthakkar> ok, thanks I will try there.
[09:11] <DarwinSurvivor> vthakkar: yes, ##linux sounds best. at a quick glance, wait should already do that for you, so you may need to explain more thuroughly what you are currently experiencing
[09:16] <iceroot> almoxarife: postfix has nothing to do with your "real" mail like gmail, gmx, hotmail and so on, its the internal mail (used by cron for example)
[09:16] <iceroot> almoxarife: a MTA is needed for the unix/linux system to operate correctly and to inform the user
[09:16] <almoxarife> iceroot: i didnt realize that ubuntu uses postfix for MTA, and i use opensuse which uses 'sendmail' as MTA, so i should not have said a thing to the nick that had the isue with postfix, my bad
[09:17] <almoxarife> issue
[09:17] <iceroot> !mta | almoxarife
[09:17] <ubottu> almoxarife: A Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) is the server software that sends and queues mail. The default MTA (and !MDA) on Ubuntu is !postfix ("exim" is also officially supported). See also !MailServer and !MUA
[09:18] <iceroot> almoxarife: sendmail is fine too but (if you dont have to configure it...)
[09:18] <almoxarife> iceroot: mta for ubuntu 'postfix' , got it
[09:18] <iceroot> almoxarife: :)
[09:19] <almoxarife> iceroot: mta for opensuse 'sendmail'
[09:21] <almoxarife> any reqonk gurus here/.
[09:21] <almoxarife> ?
[09:21] <kloes> hello all
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[09:21] <cfhowlett> kloes: greetings
[09:21] <almoxarife> rekonq, how to set mime types, anyone have an idea?
[09:21] <kloes> is there a way to install old version of ubuntu with netinstall  minimal cd?
[09:22] <kloes> or minimal cd is only for the current release
[09:22] <kloes> I tried with 10.04 minimal
[09:22] <almoxarife> kloes: does the netinstall allow you to setup the repos?
[09:22] <kloes> but I can not get the installer
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[09:23] <kloes> I can set up manual ubuntu archive and choose from list
[09:24] <almoxarife> kloes: that case then, getting the packages from archive/10.04 an issue?
[09:24] <kloes> yes
[09:24] <kloes> I can nto get any package
[09:24] <kloes> *not
[09:24] <kloes> I tried many other archive
[09:24] <almoxarife> kloes: what happens?
[09:24] <kloes> archive mirrors
[09:25] <kloes> the executed a shell
[09:25] <kloes> I can ping yahoo
[09:25] <kloes> shell says yahoo is active
[09:25] <kloes> so I think the connection is OK
[09:25] <kloes> when I try conecting for the mirror I get nothing
[09:25] <almoxarife> kloes: you get 404 error you mean?
[09:25] <kloes> just waiting
[09:26] <kloes> I have installed 10.04 before when was active release with netinstall
[09:26] <kloes> there were no problems
[09:26] <kloes> the installer comes and I get packages
[09:26] <kloes> now- nothing
[09:26] <kloes> no it comes nothing on the screen
[09:27] <infz_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2085902 any ideas? :)
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[09:28] <almoxarife> kloes: what named version is 10.04?
[09:28] <kloes> lucid
[09:28] <kloes> I think
[09:29] <kloes> Ubuntu_10.04_Lucid_Lynx_Minimal
[09:29] <almoxarife> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/ <-- this the repo?
[09:29] <almoxarife> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/ <-- this the repo? kloes
[09:30] <kloes> should I connect to that?
[09:30] <kloes> I have tried the mirror in us
[09:30] <almoxarife> kloes: if you want lucid yes
[09:30] <kloes> I selected it from the mirror list in netinstall
[09:30] <kloes> ok
[09:30] <kloes> I'll try right away with quemu
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[09:40] <pratz> Hello guys
[09:40] <gian_> !pastbin
[09:40] <pratz> I am using Ubuntu 1.04
[09:40] <cfhowlett> Greetings pratz
[09:40] <pratz> *12.04
[09:40] <pratz> the problem now is I can not do 'sudo apt-get update'
[09:41] <gian_> How to do to past?
[09:41] <cfhowlett> pratz: error messages?
[09:41] <cfhowlett> !paste|gian_:
[09:41] <ubottu> gian_:: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[09:41] <cnf> hmz, silly curl
[09:41] <cnf> giving me curl: (52) Empty reply from server
[09:41] <pratz> I have just now installed U12.04 in my company
[09:41] <cfhowlett> pratz: do you get an error message?
[09:41] <pratz> I think they have some blocked ports , but I do not have information about those
[09:41] <pratz> cfhowlett: my company has some block ports and I do not have any information about that
[09:42] <murlidhar> can anyone confirm to me that the package " gnome-media-player " isn't working on 12.10
[09:42] <cfhowlett> pratz: I'd start with looking into port permissions.
[09:42] <pratz> cfhowlett: the only thing is that I have a proxy server details and port number
[09:43] <pratz> cfhowlett: here dude http://dpaste.com/833634/
[09:43] <murlidhar> it surely isn't working on 12.04 either!
[09:43] <cfhowlett> pratz: Configuring ports and such is over my paygrade.  Stay in channel and ask.
[09:43] <pratz> cfhowlett: no, but is that an port porblem ?
[09:44] <pratz> cfhowlett: hang on I am not sure if that is a port problem
[09:44] <cfhowlett> pratz: GPG error
[09:44] <pratz> cfhowlett: I have tried this $sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[09:44] <pratz> cfhowlett: but agian the same error
[09:45] <kloes> I 'm still waint installer to download the compenents
[09:45] <kloes> is gdm package available in 12.04?
[09:46] <kloes> aptitude can not find gdm
[09:46] <auronandace> !info gdm precise | kloes
[09:46] <ubottu> kloes: gdm (source: gdm): GNOME Display Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.4-0ubuntu15 (precise), package size 1690 kB, installed size 6805 kB
[09:46] <auronandace> !aptitude | kloes
[09:46] <ubottu> kloes: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.
[09:47] <murlidhar> !info gnome-media-player
[09:47] <kloes> well i tried to get it with ap-get first
[09:47] <ubottu> gnome-media-player (source: gnome-media-player): A simple media player for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.3-0ubuntu4 (quantal), package size 85 kB, installed size 448 kB
[09:48] <auronandace> kloes: sudo apt-get update and try again
[09:48] <kloes> apt-get can not find gdm
[09:48] <kloes> I did that
[09:49] <kloes> with 12.04 minimal it all works
[09:49] <kloes> with 10.04 minimal I still wait for the installer components
[09:50] <kloes> If i can install gdm with 12.04 I will go with tgat release
[09:50] <kloes> but It can not find gdm
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> kloes  what's keeping you from upgrading to 12.04?
[09:50] <kloes> i want to install gdm
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> kloes  i havent followed, did you try: ctrl-alt F1 and install gdm from there?
[09:52] <kloes> how to go back to the gui anfter ctrl alt f1?
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> kloes  ctrl-alt F7
[09:52] <kloes> ok
[09:55] <pratz> guys I am gettings this error http://dpaste.com/833634/
[09:56] <pratz> any one please
[09:56] <antonio_> Aloha folks...
[09:56] <antonio_> Does anyone here use an Android Razr and also play mp3s on it?  Trying to figure out how to transfer mp3s to my razr....and what player ot use
[09:56] <antonio_> to*
[09:57] <pratz> any one guys please http://dpaste.com/833634/
[09:57] <ikonia> pratz: that repo is broken
[09:57] <pratz> can not install any thing with out fixing this
[09:57] <ikonia> pratz: that repo is broken
[10:00] <pratz> ikonia: I selected the 'main server' from 'Update manager', still the same error
[10:00] <ikonia> pratz: please pastebin the error after you have selected main server
[10:01] <pratz> ikonia: here http://dpaste.com/833640/
[10:02] <pratz> ikonia: I have joined the current company few days back and they have let me install Ubuntu, but I think there are some ports blocked, but I am not sure if this the port problem
[10:02] <ikonia> pratz: delete the files referenced in /var/lib
[10:02] <pratz> ikonia: please guide me
[10:03] <pratz> ikonia: I run this command sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf and then sudo apt-get update , still the same error
[10:04] <pratz> ikonia: any ideas dude ?
[10:05] <pratz> ikonia: there is the full traceback http://dpaste.com/833642/
[10:05] <pratz> ikonia: they have provided me proxy server detials, will that help ?
[10:06] <pratz> ikonia: anything dude ?
[10:06] <ikonia> pratz: that doesn't look like a network access error
[10:06] <ikonia> pratz: try the proxy
[10:08] <pratz> ikonia: where to set the proxy ?
[10:08] <himcesjf> Hello! I'm not able to get x11vnc working after recent update. I've reconfigured DM for kdm over lightdm. x11vnc fails to start on the host system. Here are the past working and current failed attempts - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1367286/ . What am I missing in the command?
[10:08] <ikonia> pratz: a good question in 12.10
[10:09] <antonio_> Does anyone here use an Android Razr and also play mp3s on it?  Trying to figure out how to transfer mp3s to my razr....and what player to use
[10:09] <pratz> ikonia: I am using 12.04
[10:10] <ikonia> ok, in 12.04 then
[10:11] <kloes> hello all
[10:17] <kierxn> Hi kloes
[10:17] <kloes> hi
[10:24] <cyd> hiho
[10:25] <ionwind> hi
[10:26] <ionwind> i have a problem with flash and chrome ubuntu 12.04
[10:26] <samara2> hello linux
[10:26] <ionwind> some help please
[10:26] <cfhowlett> samara2: greetings
[10:27] <ionwind> i try install and reinstal several times flash, chrome, firefox and the extras for ubuntu
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[10:30] <almoxarife> ionwind: in chrome, place this in the address block, "chrome://plugins/" , is 'flash' enabled?
[10:35] <ionwind> hi almoxarife
[10:35] <ionwind> yes
[10:36] <almoxarife> ionwind: yes it is enabled?
[10:36] <ionwind> http://pastebin.com/jPLEqVRt
[10:36] <ionwind> is in spanish but yes it is
[10:37] <ionwind> i try /etc/adobe# EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1
[10:38] <ionwind> but the same thing
[10:40] <john__> how do I connect two computers witha UTP and have them see the same internet connection?
[10:43] <john__> how do I connect two computers witha UTP and have them see the same internet connection?
[10:43] <vmachine1> internet connection sharing
[10:48] <iceroot> !ics | john__
[10:48] <ubottu> john__: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[10:49] <kroosec> Is there a way to map FN-Keys to mplayer (so one can do next/previous track without going to the terminal where mplayer is running)
[10:58] <ioneye> Is there someone who can tell me if my pc specs can fully support Ubuntu 12.10?
[10:58] <agu10^> ioneye, they can
[10:59] <ioneye> Here are some of the basic specs: http://pastebin.com/nRhVsZpM
[10:59] <cairne> if you can't run full ubuntu 12.10 you might have good luck with xfce spin or lxde spin if your resources are minor
[11:00] <cairne> since my laptop has way less specs then that and runs ubuntu just fine, you will be just fine
[11:00] <yvesD> this will run just fine. not shure which driver for the AMD graphics card you need. you will find it in wiki
[11:01] <ioneye> I use to have an Nvidia 7400 and the screen was flickering. Thats why i am asking. If i am going to have any problems mainly regarding the ATI drivers or something familiar
[11:01] <ioneye> Edit: I used to have*
[11:02] <cairne> you have to play around, either the propetiary drivers or not, find which one works for you
[11:02] <cairne> I have a low end nvidia card and it handles unity way better then my ati card did
[11:02] <ioneye> Thats what i am trying to avoid. Playing around. Installing and Unistalling a whole operating system.
[11:02] <cairne> just the drivers not whole operating system
[11:03] <ioneye> Yeah but if the drivers are not able to support my graphic card then what other solution do i have besides trying something different.
[11:03] <cairne> ioneye: you could try a live distro or on a usb stick
[11:04] <ioneye> Good point. Thats something i didn't think of.
[11:05] <cairne> drivers are just something you got to get use to, even with windows, you have to install and setup drivers to get graphics cards to work at peak performance
[11:07] <ioneye> Well, in windows for example things are pretty straight forward. Download the latest drivers for the coresponding graphic card and you are done.
[11:07] <ioneye> Anyway, i am going to do what you suggested. Install it on a flash driver and mess around
[11:09] <yvesD> unetbootin?
[11:09] <cairne> ubuntu makes it pretty straight forward too, when you go into system there is a graphic that looks like a graphic card and says additional drivers, click on that and it will recomend the drivers for you
[11:11] <riqdiiz> Hi all what code can I input on a batch that launches a GUI program that requires a 'yes' or a 'no' to complete a task?
[11:13] <cairne> riqdiiz: graphicly you have to push yes? or is it an argument that you can pass at cli?
[11:16] <riqdiiz> Yes.but I want the script to do the push.what code Do I give?
[11:17] <btral> hi
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> riqdiiz  guess it depends on the command, some have -y you can add
[11:17] <OerHeks> riqdiiz, input y/n, here is an example > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=48fadaad9f68358c325e70451e93ee8f&p=3228501&postcount=5
[11:17] <btral> how can i echo a stinr to end of last line of a file?
[11:21] <cairne> is it possible to interact with a gui with the cli? i would think once it ran with whatever arguments you pass at calling that would be it right?
[11:21] <cairne> if it even accepts arguments
[11:21] <mkuzu> hello
[11:22] <cairne> hey
[11:22] <Mrokii> Hello. So I've noticed a popup-menu in a few apps (like Firefox), when I doubleclick the address bar to mark a url. There are options like "Open in Firefox" and some others (can't remember and at the moment it does not seem to pop up...). Anyhow, this must be a Ubuntu thing, not Firefox-specific. Does anybody know where this is coming from or how to change the options? Or maybe how to deactivate it
[11:22] <Mrokii> alltogether?
[11:22] <mkuzu> weird problem: Files and folders in home folder are lost after reboot
[11:22] <mkuzu> I thought it was related to ltsp
[11:22] <mkuzu> but I guess not
[11:22] <mkuzu> weird thing is
[11:23] <mkuzu> that happened once before
[11:23] <mkuzu> and after a second reboot
[11:23] <mkuzu> home folder was restored
[11:23] <mkuzu> It shows that the home folder goes back to some October 13
[11:23] <cairne> mkuzu: please try and put it into a paragraph not through individual lines
[11:23] <mkuzu> ok
[11:24] <mkuzu> weird problem: Files and folders in home folder are lost after reboot
[11:24] <mkuzu> I thought it was related to ltsp
[11:24] <mkuzu> weird thing is
[11:24] <mkuzu> that happened once before
[11:24] <mkuzu> and after a second reboot
[11:24] <FloodBot1> mkuzu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:24] <mkuzu> home folder was restored
[11:25] <mkuzu> sorry I am not experienced in irc forums
[11:26] <MenZa> mkuzu: Just try and limit yourself to fewer lines of text.
[11:26] <Mrokii> mkuzu: Just write all your sentences in one go, not a new post for every sentence. :)
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[11:29] <GandalfB> Hello All
[11:31] <yvesD> mkuzu, just use <enter> carefully
[11:32] <mkuzu> any idea
[11:35] <yvesD> shure you are the right user looking for his /home in cli? test with whoami?
[11:45] <ranjan>  Hi all, i have a network with mixed Windows and Linux Installation and all the internet traffic is through a websense proxy. The case is most of the time the connection to this websense proxy from Linux machines times out, but windows machines works fine. Has anyone come across such an issue, or what can be the root cause of this problem? Any help is greatly appreciated.
[11:46] <bazhang> ranjan, is this debian?
[11:46] <ranjan> bazhang, not its Ubuntu 10.04 and CentOS 6.2
[11:46] <ranjan> bazhang, there are around 200 Machines
[11:51] <ranjan> bazhang, have you come across such an issue in debian? it may apply to Ubuntu also
[11:52] <yvesD> afaik 10.04 does not get updates anymore.
[11:52] <bazhang> yvesD, sure it does. check the topic here
[11:53] <andybrine> morning everyone
[11:53] <DJones> yvesD: 10.04's EOL is April 2013
[11:53] <andybrine> does anyone know a similar application to tunnelbear but for ubuntu
[11:53] <yvesD> sorry, april 2013, yes it gets updates
[11:54] <andybrine> i want to be able to acess us sites here in the uk
[11:55] <bazhang> http://alternativeto.net/software/tunnelbear/    andybrine have a look
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[11:57] <andybrine> thanks bazhang for the link
[11:57] <andybrine> was looking at this a mi ago
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[12:03] <Mrokii> Is there a way to make that retarded Update Manager *not* close just because there are some index files it can't find or some keys are missing?
[12:04] <gic> looking for a lightweight utility that will let me know how long the screen has been locked. basically want to figure out how long have i been on break
[12:05] <KM0201> gic: screensaver with a counter?
[12:06] <gic> KM0201, exactly :) xlock does that but its ugly :(
[12:06] <gic> i have used "time read" before
[12:06] <KM0201> hmm
[12:06] <gic> but i need something more automatic
[12:07] <KM0201> i have no idea.
[12:07] <gic> KM0201, no issues :)
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[12:09] <Mrokii> Doesn't anybody have a clue about that strange small popup that sometimes shows when doubleclicking (marking) URL in the address bar of Firefox for example? It's pretty annoying as the options are pretty much useless to me and also breaks my workflow, meaning I have to do an extra click to get rid of the popup menu before I am amble to actually hit Ctrl+C to copy a URL.
[12:10] <bazhang> Mrokii, yes. there is an arrow that leads to a menu saying, dont ask again
[12:10] <Mrokii> bazhang: Hm, okay. Didn't notice that yet, but I will look. Thanks.
[12:11] <lujy> Hello?
[12:12] <lujy> Any one ?
[12:12] <kierxn> Hello?
[12:12] <bazhang> lujy, ubuntu support question?
[12:12] <Mrokii> bazhang: I have no clue what you're talking about, honestly. Was that a remark about me asking the question once more or an actual answer? If so, I don't see anything like what you described.
[12:13] <lujy> Why I cannot find other channel?
[12:13] <KM0201> what other channel?
[12:13] <bazhang> Mrokii, a small popup window that appears in the address bar of Firefox? I thought that was your issue
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> lujy  type /msg alis list *blah* to find a channel
[12:13] <lujy> Any ubuntu 12.04 user?
[12:14] <bazhang> lujy, yes of course
[12:15] <lujy> I am using gnome3
[12:15] <lujy> but I have a problem
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[12:15] <Guest62018> blehhh ubuntu 12.10 is soooo alien to me
[12:15] <Mrokii> bazhang: Yes, but not only in Firefox. And it has four options, Open in Mozilla, Open in Firefox, Open in Opera (I think) and something else I forgot. That's all. Strange thing is it doesn't always appear and I don't know how to either disable it or change the (for me) useless options.
[12:15] <yvesD> !nettiquette
[12:15] <lujy> Can gnome3 search like Unity dash?
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> Guest62018  it means you're learning something new
[12:15] <KM0201> ..
[12:15] <Cuacrzz> Does anyone know how to change metric settings on my l2tp vpn settings like that checkbox on Windows, because i'm connected and it works but all pages are blocked right know
[12:16] <Guest62018> well 1 thing for sure the xchat-indicator dosent work right in 12.10
[12:16] <bazhang> Mrokii, that sounds somewhat different on second listening as you have further clarified
[12:16] <bazhang> Guest62018, it works perfectly here
[12:17] <yvesD> Guest62018: you are able to flee from unity for example for xfce. also check "things to do first after 12.10 install" for removing of shopping lens and so on
[12:17] <bazhang> Guest62018, perhaps you have misconfigured it
[12:17] <lujy> Any chinese channel?
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[12:17] <ubottu> 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw
[12:17] <bazhang> !adlens | yvesD
[12:17] <ubottu> yvesD: If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping, or adjust your Privacy settings as shown here: http://goo.gl/kFO4u . Mark Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ
[12:17] <Guest62018> yeah well when i minamize to tray and then try to maximize it start a whole new xchat for me
[12:17] <Mrokii> bazhang: Sorry for not explaining it properly. I just don't get where this is coming from, but as it's not only FX where it appeard (Thunderbird and Chrome as well) I assume it must be some Ubuntu-thing.
[12:18] <Guest62018> and yes the other one is still running in here
[12:18] <Guest62018> <------Evil_Eric
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> Guest62018  type /nick Evil_Eric
[12:19] <plusEV> hi. im running ubuntu 12.10 quantal 64-bit. I got 4gb installed ram. but system monitor in linux onlyvsees 2,9gb ram. why is that?
[12:19] <Guest62018> well i know the command dustmonkey i just havent ghosted my nick yet
[12:20] <lujy> how to remove gnome3 calendar
[12:20] <ewook> plusEV: Is it a laptop or a workstation with graphic card that shares ram?
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[12:21] <yvesD> plusEV: shure you are running 64 bit? run "uname -a" in shell. also graphic card can share ram in laptops for example
[12:21] <Evil_Eric> bless
[12:21] <Evil_Eric> bbl 12.10 ='s fail on many levels
[12:21] <tuxtoti> hello. I have got 4 usb ports but only 1 of is working. dmesg isn't giving any output when i plugin a usb any of those 3.
[12:22] <tuxtoti> I have got the lsusb output here: http://pastebin.com/mccdna89
[12:22] <tuxtoti> Any clues?
[12:22] <Cuacrzz> Does anyone know how to change metric settings on my l2tp vpn settings like that checkbox on Windows, because i'm connected and it works but all pages are blocked right know
[12:23] <plusEV> it says x86_64 After running the command
[12:23] <keyur> Hi
[12:23] <keyur> Please help me friends :(
[12:23] <keyur> I m having some issues with ssh
[12:23] <keyur> anyone their who can help me ?
[12:24] <iceroot> !details | keyur
[12:24] <ubottu> keyur: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[12:24] <keyur> See I want to create ssh rsa public key
[12:24] <iceroot> plusEV: what is the output of "free -m"
[12:24] <keyur> Ok :D
[12:24] <keyur>  but when i see my public key
[12:24] <keyur> in end
[12:24] <keyur> it says
[12:24] <iceroot> !enter | keyur
[12:24] <ubottu> keyur: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:25] <iceroot> keyur: please use one line to post a detailed questions
[12:25] <iceroot> -s
[12:25] <keyur> ok :D
[12:26] <Rexter> Goodmorning, what is Floodbot?
[12:26] <keyur> I want to setup ssh rsa public key ! so after generating when i open the pub key in ending it shows like andro-development@keyur-Inspiron-N4010  i don't want this " keyur-Inspiron-N4010  " can you tell me how to make public key without this ?
[12:26] <keyur> Please help :(
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[12:27] <MonkeyDust> keyur  isnt that the identifier of your pc?
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> keyur  keep it in the channel please
[12:28] <keyur> bro cold you come on private talk @MonkeyDust
[12:29] <keyur> please
[12:29] <keyur> it is bit personal
[12:29] <Cuacrzz> Does anyone know how to change metric settings on my l2tp vpn settings like that checkbox on Windows, because i'm connected and it works but all pages are blocked right know
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> !pm | keyur
[12:30] <ubottu> keyur: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[12:31] <keyur> Ok MonkeyDust: Bro The thing is i want to connect to one ssh server that server is based on rsa public key  and im not authorised to use that server but one of my friend is authorised so he said give me your public key so i can give that to admin
[12:31] <keyur> so if admin finds out my name he will not give access so i just want to remove this "keyur-Inspiron-N4010"
[12:33] <keyur> @MonkeyDust Got me bro ?
[12:33] <dr0p> hello, has anyone faced the issue with xrandr -> after setting the highest available resolution on LVDS1 (laptop) i get blank screen?
[12:34] <llutz> keyur: just remove the comment from the pub.key
[12:34] <keyur> @llutz it will not create any problem :O
[12:35] <keyur> that maybe it will mismatch with private key ?
[12:35] <kloes> Is is possible to have gui without Xorg?
[12:36] <kloes> I think it is not
[12:36] <kloes> but just to make sure
[12:36] <OerHeks> llutz, do we help hacking public keys to provide unautorized access ?
[12:37] <keyur> @OerHeks  Is it hacking o.O i don't think so ?
[12:37] <llutz> keyur: its highly illegal
[12:38] <OerHeks> keyur, " im not authorised to use that server but one of my friend is authorised "
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[12:38] <keyur> hmmmmmm ! my friend want to give me access so ...
[12:38] <llutz> keyur: well, you friend is an idiot and now stop that topic please
[12:38] <Guest90940> apa
[12:39] <llutz> your*
[12:39] <gsommer> Under Ubuntu, how are applications notified about screen resolution change ?
[12:39] <keyur> please :( reply to my  question
[12:39] <OerHeks> keyur, this is not an ubuntu issue, go find a hacking channel, we do not support this.
[12:40] <OerHeks> kloes a gui needs X, so you thinking is right.
[12:40] <vivid> is anyone else having an issue with global menus in 12.10?  they are only working for firefox and thunderbird for me
[12:40] <keyur> ok :P
[12:41] <kernsprog> any experts on urban terror game?
[12:42] <MoL0ToV> someone can help me with a usb webcam? http://pastebin.ca/2252738
[12:44] <auronandace> keyur: wayland can be used as a xorg replacement (still experimental though)
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[12:47] <cnf> anyone know a good email notifier for kde? and i don't mean a full client, as i use the web client
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[12:48] <gsommer> Under Xorg, how are applications notified about screen resolution changes ?
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[12:52] <kloes> OerHeks
[12:52] <kloes> OerHeks
[12:52] <auronandace> kloes: wayland can be used as a xorg replacement (still experimental though)
[12:53] <OerHeks> gsommer, XRRQueryExtension, see first answer  > http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.xorg/month=20110401
[12:53] <yvesD> Rexter: floodbot prevents users in irc to flood the irc-channel with posts. instead you should post all of your text in one post. so be careful to use enter in irc. just type all you have to say and then press enter ONE TIME
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[12:53] <OerHeks> kloes ?
[12:54] <yvesD> lol wayland comes in 1 month. (since 2 years now)
[12:54] <joar> I'm having issues with nvidia drivers on 12.10
[12:56] <joar> This is my Xorg.0.log: https://gist.github.com/21beab517334c88ec828
[12:56] <plusEV> hi. im running ubuntu 12,10 desktop amd64 on my lenovo t60. the system has 4gb of installed ram according to my bios, but system monitor in linux only shows 2,9gb. why is that?
[12:56] <yvesD> joar: more info please. post xorg.0.log on nopaste (e.g. http://nopaste.info/) and the spec graphic chip
[12:56] <auronandace> plusEV: you running 32bit
[12:56] <joar> yvesD: https://gist.github.com/21beab517334c88ec828
[12:57] <plusEV> srsly?
[12:57] <OerHeks> plusEV, maybe your videocard uses ram for a shadow copy, or your onbord videocard uses that ram.
[12:58] <joar> auronandace: plusEV: I believe the 32bit max is 3.9G
[12:59] <plusEV> 128mb ATI Radeon x1400 is the video card. how do i figure out if the card takes my mem?
[12:59] <plusEV> ram even
[13:00] <arnsa> Hello, is there a package for ubuntu like this one? https://www.archlinux.org/groups/i686/gnome-extra/
[13:00] <auronandace> plusEV: what does uname -a say?
[13:01] <auronandace> !find gnome-extra
[13:01] <ubottu> Found: gnome-extra-icons
[13:01] <sevoxx> !find erection
[13:01] <ubottu> Package/file erection does not exist in quantal
[13:01] <arnsa> auronandace, as you can see only gnome-extra-icons :| Maybe it's called soemthing else?
[13:01] <yvesD> plusEV: have you tried dash-additional drivers?
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[13:01] <yvesD> *dash->
[13:01] <sevoxx> !find !find
[13:01] <arnsa> !find pkgbuild
[13:01] <ubottu> Found: findutils, libfile-find-rule-perl, libfile-find-rule-perl-perl, libfindlib-ocaml, libfindlib-ocaml-dev, ocaml-findlib, aeskeyfind, disulfinder, disulfinder-data, ffindex (and 31 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=find&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all
[13:01] <ubottu> File pkgbuild found in el-get
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[13:02] <arnsa> What's el-get?
[13:02] <plusEV> auronandace: x86_64
[13:02] <auronandace> !msgthebot | sevoxx
[13:02] <ubottu> sevoxx: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".
[13:02] <auronandace> plusEV: ok, i used to have a t60 but mine was only 32bit
[13:03] <sevoxx> !msgthebot | auronandace
[13:03] <ubottu> auronandace: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".
[13:03] <plusEV> i went into cpu-z in windows pre linux install. said 64bit there.
[13:04] <arnsa> What's el-get?
[13:04] <auronandace> !info el-get | arnsa
[13:04] <ubottu> arnsa: el-get (source: el-get): install and manage elisp code for Emacs. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.1-1 (quantal), package size 92 kB, installed size 340 kB
[13:04] <sevoxx> !find jdk-1.7
[13:04] <ubottu> Package/file jdk-1.7 does not exist in quantal
[13:04] <sevoxx> !find jdk
[13:04] <ubottu> Found: default-jdk, default-jdk-doc, gcj-4.6-jdk, gcj-4.7-jdk, gcj-jdk, gcj-native-helper, openjdk-7-dbg, openjdk-7-demo, openjdk-7-doc, openjdk-7-jdk (and 16 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=jdk&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:05] <sevoxx> !info openjdk-7-dbg
[13:05] <ubottu> openjdk-7-dbg (source: openjdk-7): Java runtime based on OpenJDK (debugging symbols). In component main, is extra. Version 7u7-2.3.2-1ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 205375 kB, installed size 448729 kB
[13:05] <mweijts> i have problems to set Firefox and Thunderbird in a other language, I installed the firefox-local-nl and Thunderbird-local-nl (quantal), in FF and TB is see the language pack in the add-ons, but everthing keeps English
[13:06] <plusEV> it is 64bit. blah this is bad...
[13:06] <plusEV> what is wrong?
[13:07] <auronandace> plusEV: pastebin sudo lshw
[13:07] <Evil_Eric> ahhh home sweet 12.04
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[13:07] <yvesD> mweijts: have you restarted? have you gone to dash->languages?
[13:08] <lujy> How to search for documents like in unity in gnome3
[13:08] <yvesD> plusEV: look for the program "additional drivers" in your dash
[13:08] <tumadre> hey
[13:08] <lujy> ?
[13:09] <arnsa> !find mojo
[13:09] <tumadre> ¿follamos?
[13:09] <ubottu> Found: libmojo-server-fastcgi-perl, libmojolicious-perl, libmojolicious-plugin-basicauth-perl, libmojomojo-perl, libtest-www-mechanize-mojo-perl
[13:09] <Evil_Eric> yay no more xchat-indicator issues
[13:09] <mweijts> No i'am using Kubuntu and have also installed ubuntu-desktop
[13:09] <tumadre> ¿Quién quiere  follar?
[13:09] <lujy> how about gnome3
[13:09] <tumadre> In Spanish please
[13:09] <auronandace> !es | tumadre
[13:09] <ubottu> tumadre: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[13:09] <DJones> !es | tumadre
[13:09] <tumadre> callate¡
[13:09] <lujy> my god
[13:10] <tumadre> hifpdsofhg
[13:10] <tumadre> tii
[13:10] <mweijts> yvesD:  No i'am using Kubuntu and have also installed ubuntu-desktop
[13:10] <arnsa> Could anyone tell me how can I install Avadon: The Black Fortress game from Humble Bundle? It says I need Mojo Installer, but idk where could I get it.
[13:10] <tumadre> kfjgofshg
[13:11] <arnsa> Please, anyone?
[13:11] <vivid> arnsa, you may want to ask the humble bundle support about that
[13:12] <plusEV> yvesd: no such thing in my dash.
[13:12] <arnsa> vivid, I tried, but whenever I write them an email, I got back an email from google that my letter went to the spam folder. Idk wtf is wrong...
[13:13] <yvesD> plusEV: must be on 12.10
[13:13] <vivid> arnsa, go to http://humblebundle.com/  and click on the Support link on the top right
[13:13] <arnsa> vivid,  there's no information on how to install that game.
[13:13] <subha> Hi, I am new to Ubuntu, recently I installed Ubuntu on my Mac and need some help for wifi, is this the right place to ask/
[13:13] <seednode> Yes, it is.
[13:13] <subha> ?
[13:14] <seednode> Just ask the question.
[13:14] <subha> thanks, i can access internet using a LAN cable
[13:14] <subha> but cant use WIFI
[13:14] <auronandace> !bcm | subha
[13:14] <ubottu> subha: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[13:14] <seednode> Do you know the driver is Broadcom, auronandace ?
[13:14] <seednode> Just to make sure.
[13:14] <subha> dont know, can I check?
[13:15] <auronandace> seednode: its a decent guess, he's on a mac
[13:15] <auronandace> subha: lspci
[13:15] <plusEV> yvesD: found it. now what?
[13:15] <seednode> Ah. I wasn't aware of that.
[13:15] <seednode> Oh, wait.
[13:15] <seednode> Sorry, just woke up. Can't read :P
[13:15] <subha> ok, let me go through  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx and ask you guys again if I fail to do it properly
[13:15] <subha> Thanks a lot
[13:16] <seednode> Yep.
[13:16] <auronandace> subha: lspci will tell you if it is broadcom wifi
[13:16] <yvesD> plusEV: click it and let it search
[13:17] <seednode> I remember on my first install I used a Belkin USB NIC, and I had to install drivers with ndiswrapper.
[13:17] <subha> Do I need to remove the lan cable to enable it?
[13:18] <arnsa> How can I contact Humble Bundle live?
[13:18] <seednode> I'm not sure; I don't think you do, but I can't guarantee.
[13:18] <plusEV> yvesD: doing it, but what do i do when my foit falls a sleep? :)
[13:18] <seednode> arnsa: What do you mean?
[13:18] <plusEV> foot
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[13:19] <arnsa> seednode, do they have an irc channel or smthng?
[13:19] <yvesD> plusEV: hack it off
[13:19] <plusEV> * facepalm*
[13:21] <Cuacrzz> i need to enter a shared  folder with my network, there's a way to do it with \\?
[13:21] <yvesD> plusEV: if it finds available drivers. try to stay with the free one. it tells you in the brackets after the driver description
[13:22] <yvesD> plusEV: "version current"
[13:23] <nibbler> Cuacrzz: smb://host/share
[13:23] <plusEV> yvesD: no proprietary drivers are in use on this system.
[13:24] <subha> how do i install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/b43-fwcutter/1:015-14?
[13:24] <subha> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/b43-fwcutter/1:015-14 *
[13:24] <auronandace> plusEV: your ati card is too old for the proprietary drivers
[13:24] <ms_> hi people!!! :)
[13:26] <plusEV> auronandace: i dont worro about the card. i just want my 4gb ram to be active. not 2,9gb.
[13:26] <plusEV> worry even
[13:26] <auronandace> plusEV: what does sudo lshw say (in a pastebin please)
[13:26] <yvesD> plusEV: sorry i mixted you up with someone asking for help with graphic
[13:27] <plusEV> pastebin?
[13:27] <plusEV> ok
[13:27] <auronandace> !paste | plusEV
[13:27] <ubottu> plusEV: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[13:27] <ms_> I've been in a folder00 and I went to folder01 and to folder02, and so on. I want to know how to do previous through shell, but not "cd .." hein!!!
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> ms_  better ask in #bash
[13:27] <dyd> i need to get some parameters from a udev event (usb insertion) that triggers a bash script. I managed to find that $ID_VENDOR has the value of ATTRS{vendor}, now i need to know how i can get the values of ATTRS{model}, ATTRS{idVendor}, ATTRS{idProduct}, ATTRS{bcdDevice}, ATTRS{serial}. Anyone knows how i can get them in my bash script?
[13:27] <plusEV> im on irc on my phone.... pastebin wont happen. :)
[13:28] <auronandace> plusEV: your t60 has no net connection?
[13:28] <plusEV> i guess i will just try another distro
[13:28] <ms_> MonkeyDust, thanks :)
[13:29] <plusEV> yea it has but ok... ill get weechat on it
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[13:29] <edve> hi everyone i'm having a DCOM error of communication on my Ubuntu 12.10 and my Windows server 2008 how can i correct that ?
[13:30] <Cuacrzz> thanks nibbler
[13:31] <nibbler> Cuacrzz: welcome
[13:33] <plusEV> im behind firewall or something. doing this when home. cya later.
[13:34] <nibbler> 32bit linux supports way more than 4GB RAM, as address width was increased to 48bit (iirc) long before 64bit cpus were mainstream. "large mem support" its called in linux i believe
[13:35] <auronandace> !pae | nibbler
[13:35] <ubottu> nibbler: To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info
[13:35] <nibbler> auronandace: ah right, was just in reply to plusEVs questions before
[13:36] <auronandace> nibbler: still, even with pae applications can't use more than 4 gb
[13:36] <nibbler> per application not, but system memory would be >4GB
[13:36] <auronandace> yes
[13:36] <nibbler> which was the complaint of plusEV
[13:37] <auronandace> he said he was using 64bit
[13:37] <nibbler> oh, overread that then....
[13:37] <auronandace> he didn't give me the output of a command so that i could verify it
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[13:50] <Xeli> hello, I've got some problems with wpa2. There seems to be a fix added to precise proposed (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/969343/comments/96) but how do I install it? apt-get install wpasupplicant/precise-proposed doesn't work
[13:50] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 969343 in wpa_supplicant "Unable to connect to WPA enterprise wireless" [Medium,In progress]
[13:51] <auronandace> Xeli: either wait till its released normally or enable the proposed repos
[13:53] <Xeli> auronandace: I have added the proposed repo's to my /etc/apt/sources.d, as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[13:53] <auronandace> Xeli: then just: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
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[13:54] <Vi> hi
[13:54] <Vi> #php
[13:55] <Xeli> auronandace: When I run apt-get update I can see precise-proposed being 'hit', but dist-upgrade does nothing
[13:56] <auronandace> Xeli: is that fix in your mirrors yet?
[13:56] <Vi> strange, /join #php doesnt seem to work. i can join other channels?
[13:56] <thanasakos> hello guys
[13:57] <auronandace> !register | Vi
[13:57] <ubottu> Vi: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode
[13:57] <drag0nius> what edition of ubuntu has lowest hardware requirements?
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[13:57] <Xeli> auronandace: mm that might be it, how can I check what mirror I am using?
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[13:57] <noobatlife> Hello?
[13:57] <Vi> ah i see -_- new to using this gnome xchat application
[13:58] <thanasakos> hello
[13:58] <noobatlife> Is it possible to install windows 7 inside ubuntu 12.04?
[13:58] <noobatlife> I want to dual boot
[13:58] <drag0nius> yes
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[13:58] <auronandace> !lubuntu | drag0nius
[13:58] <ubottu> drag0nius: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.
[13:58] <drag0nius> but would be easier to first install windows then linux
[13:58] <Butcho> anyone have a xorg.conf for a nvidia GTX470 and a Apple Cinema Display 30"? I'm having problems getting full resolution.
[13:58] <noobatlife> I dont have that option
[13:58] <thanasakos> need help about linux(terminal)
[13:58] <drag0nius> if you install Win7 after ubuntu you'll need ubuntu live boot to fix grub
[13:59] <drag0nius> because windows install overrides any boot managers
[13:59] <noobatlife> ok
[13:59] <noobatlife> thank you for this information
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[13:59] <auronandace> noobatlife: inside ubuntu? as in a vm?
[13:59] <thanasakos> drag0nius
[13:59] <noobatlife> no
[13:59] <drag0nius> so basically: Install Ubuntu -> Install Windows 7 -> put live USB in -> fix Grub
[13:59] <thanasakos> can u hel[ me?
[13:59] <thanasakos> dragon..
[13:59] <noobatlife> as in installed
[13:59] <noobatlife> on the hard disk
[14:00] <noobatlife> Ok
[14:00] <auronandace> noobatlife: you can't do that from INSIDE ubuntu
[14:00] <Xeli> auronandace: ah no, I made a /etc/apt/preferences file which only allows explicit installs of the proposed repo, I've removed it now but dist-upgrade will install a lot of packages, can I choose to install wpasupplicant?
[14:00] <drag0nius> thanasakos what u need?
[14:00] <noobatlife> oh]
[14:00] <auronandace> Xeli: no idea sorry, i keep only the normal repos
[14:01] <auronandace> noobatlife: you'd need a win7 disk to boot from
[14:01] <drag0nius> auronandace what?
[14:01] <Xeli> auronandace: alright, thanks for the tips tho
[14:01] <thanasakos> dragon
[14:01] <drag0nius> you can make separate partition to install win7 on
[14:02] <thanasakos> help with terminal
[14:02] <drag0nius> yeah but what with it
[14:02] <thanasakos> or what need to install
[14:02] <noobatlife> yes
[14:02] <noobatlife> That was what i wanted to do
[14:02] <thanasakos> i am new
[14:02] <noobatlife> I wanted to install windows on a partition
[14:02] <noobatlife> of the same hard disk that ubuntu is on
[14:02] <drag0nius> just make partition and install :P
[14:02] <drag0nius> then boot from ubuntu live usb and repair grub
[14:02] <drag0nius> and will be fine
[14:03] <thanasakos> ii want to tell me something to do for learn use linux
[14:03] <noobatlife> Ok
[14:03] <Junior_> suddenly I can´t connect ubuntu by ssh using putty, what's wrong??
[14:04] <llutz> Junior_: the error is?
[14:04] <drag0nius> thanasakos just google "linux basics"
[14:04] <Junior_> the putty windows is closed when write password
[14:04] <auronandace> !terminal | thanasakos
[14:04] <ubottu> thanasakos: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[14:04] <auronandace> !google | drag0nius
[14:04] <ubottu> drag0nius: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.
[14:05] <auronandace> thanasakos: #bash may be more help
[14:05] <Junior_> bash from win7 I gues it is not possible
[14:06] <Pici> Junior_: What? If you mean running Putty in Windows 7, I'm using it right now.
[14:07] <llutz> Junior_: you mighgt ask in some win-channels, but doesn't putty have an option not to close the window or some logging features?
[14:07] <Junior_> nop
[14:07] <Junior_> ubuntu is not logging
[14:08] <Junior_> logs on some days doesn't appear
[14:08] <learner> Hello
[14:08] <Junior_> is like a attack but i'm not sure
[14:09] <Junior_> additional I can´t connect trhough ssh
[14:09] <Junior_> is so crazy
[14:09] <Junior_> any idea
[14:09] <Junior_> ?
[14:09] <FloodBot1> Junior_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:09] <llutz> Junior_: the error is?
[14:09] <Junior_> sorry
[14:10] <Junior_> I can´t get errors because the system is not writing log files
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[14:11] <llutz> Junior_: so how do you expect to get any help then? get another ssh-client and hope its more verbose on errors (cygwin)
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[14:12] <Junior_> should be any idea around the trouble
[14:12] <Junior_> I guess
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[14:13] <Butcho> how can I tell which drive X is using? should be using nvidia but nvidia-settings is telling me it's not running
[14:13] <Junior_> ubuntu has a limit to user conections by ssh?
[14:14] <Butcho> Junior_, can you telnet to port 22
[14:14] <Pici> Junior_: Is Ubuntu not logging or is Windows not logging. You're being somewhat vauge.
[14:15] <Junior_> ubuntu is not logging
[14:15] <Pici> Junior_: Are you out of diskspace?
[14:15] <Junior_> nop
[14:16] <auronandace> Butcho: lsmod
[14:16] <Junior_> there are space on disk
[14:16] <Pici> Junior_: Which log are you looking at?
[14:17] <Junior_> i saw messages.1
[14:18] <Junior_> but some days there aren't logs
[14:18] <Junior_> so crazy
[14:19] <tuxtoti> hello again. i think my message went unnoticed. so 3 of the 4 usb ports aren't working. got some data here: http://pastebin.com/mccdna89 . any help ?
[14:20] <Junior_> Pici: I saw messages.1
[14:20] <nibbler> tuxtoti: i think the output of dmesg might be more itneresting, after plugging a usb device
[14:20] <Pici> Junior_: try /var/log/auth.log
[14:21] <tuxtoti> nibbler: oh yeah . just forgot to tell. no dmesg output for the 3 nonworking ports.
[14:22] <nibbler> tuxtoti: no idea then, sorry
[14:22] <tuxtoti> any channels around here were just hardware/kernel people lurk around ?
[14:23] <Junior_> Pici: I had to restart system phisicaly so /var/log/auth.log has log from system was rebooted
[14:23] <Junior_> Pici: I lost logs before when something was wrong
[14:25] <vrajesh> I have a problem with current version of kernel in Ubuntu 12.10. It freezes at boot-time. This never happened in previous version of kernel or Ubuntu.
[14:25] <auronandace> tuxtoti: ##linux or ##hardware
[14:25] <vrajesh> I have core i5 450m CPU and ATI 5470 GPU
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> vrajesh  what's the outcome of uname -r ?
[14:29] <vrajesh> It won't boot. So, I can't tell that. But I have downloaded the iso recently.
[14:30] <vrajesh> MonkeyDust: ^.
[14:30] <yvesD> vrajesh: do you have access to /var/log/ ? to look for logfiles?
[14:31] <Thiagovfar> Can I change the way lightdm runs the X server? Like passing -nocursor to it?
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[14:31] <vrajesh> yvesD: Actually the thing is, It won't install, it won't boot from removable media..
[14:32] <yvesD> vrajesh: totally different matter
[14:32] <yvesD> vrajesh: you boot from usb?
[14:32] <vrajesh> yvesD: Yes, what I can say for sure is the problem is with kernel only.
[14:33] <yvesD> vrajesh: why?
[14:33] <vrajesh> It gets stuck at kernel load time...
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[14:33] <yvesD> vrajesh: how did you install onto usb? unetbootin?
[14:33] <vrajesh> Yeah!
[14:33] <vrajesh> And it works on other machines..
[14:34] <yvesD> vrajesh: what did you choose after unetbootin-prompt? default?
[14:34] <Butcho> I can't seem to modpobe nvidia .. gives me Module nvidia_current not found/
[14:34] <auronandace> Butcho: surely the module is just nvidia (not nvidia_current)
[14:34] <jwrigley> whoami
[14:35] <yvesD> $wrigley
[14:35] <vrajesh> yvesD: Yes. I tried all options, Default, install etc.. Plus I tried installing it via wubi.. Same result. Checked the ISO hash, it seems to be okay..
[14:35] <Butcho> auronandace: did it both ways. nvidia doesnt seem to want to run
[14:35] <jwrigley> yvesD: thx, wasn't sure for a moment :)
[14:36] <yvesD> jwrigley: ;)
[14:36] <Butcho> nouveau driver works great
[14:36] <yvesD> vrajesh: i had similar, then took text install and worked
[14:37] <vrajesh> yvesD: Oh! Let me try that... Will be right back.. Thanks.
[14:37] <yvesD> vrajesh: wait
[14:37] <vrajesh> yvesD: Okay,
[14:37] <yvesD> vrajesh: what is the iso you loaded? debian-live-6.0.5-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso ?
[14:38] <georgeph> whats up with gnome-media-player...it got bad reviews and doesn't work here either
[14:38] <vrajesh> yvesD: ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:38] <georgeph> also blender is broken and supertuxkart is broken as well
[14:38] <yvesD> vrajesh: ah ok, sorry wrong channel
[14:39] <vrajesh> yvesD: What?
[14:39] <caiyue> hello
[14:39] <georgeph> how can ubuntu support anything with so much stuff that is totally broken
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[14:39] <vrajesh> yvesD: Oh!
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> georgeph  no rants here, please
[14:40] <yvesD> vrajesh: maybe you want to try out alternate.iso
[14:40] <Pici> There is no alternate as of 12.10.
[14:40] <yvesD> right
[14:40] <georgeph> MonkeyDust...not a rant...just a report of facts with broken software...linux keeps breaking everything
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> georgeph  then report it somewhere, this is the support channel
[14:41] <yvesD> *detects predujice
[14:41] <georgeph> MonkeyDust...well nice to know there is a support channel but how do they expect to support the broken packages
[14:42] <vrajesh> yvesD: I will try the text installer, and be back later...
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> georgeph  better start from the beginning, what were you doing and when did things go wrong
[14:43] <AlanBell> georgeph: blender installs and runs for me, gnome-media-player segfaults, supertuxcart installs and runs
[14:44] <BehindPenguin> hello
[14:44] <georgeph> Monkey well i finally found a way to change the default drivers in x...so i got glxgears running on the ati...so then i decided to see if supertuxkart would work...it did until i installed restricted stuff...which took out the avcodec libs...and supertuxkart quit working
[14:44] <simplew> my mouse stops working sometimes, is there any problem related to this?
[14:44] <yvesD> simplew: what mouse? wireless?
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> georgeph  sounds like a ATI problem, then
[14:45] <eric_> ok maybe xchat and no indicator
[14:45] <simplew> yvesD: no, usb mouse
[14:45] <georgeph> MonkeyDust...well could be..it is just hard to tell
[14:45] <eric_> bbl
[14:45] <yvesD> simplew: so its cable? does lsusb tell it is connected?
[14:46] <georgeph> MonkeyDust ...at least some games do work like the 3d psemu stuff like final fantasy and legend of dragoon
[14:46] <simplew> yvesD: it does
[14:46] <AlanBell> georgeph: bug #830569 indicates that gnome-media-player is abandoned upstream and will probably be removed
[14:46] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 830569 in gnome-media-player (Ubuntu) "gnome-media-player crashed with SIGSEGV in gconf_client_get_default()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/830569
[14:46] <BehindPenguin> is Intel® Ironlake Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2  support to run FlightGear ?
[14:46] <simplew> yvesD: it does not, sorry
[14:46] <yvesD> simplew: here you go
[14:46] <georgeph> MonkeyDust...but losing supertuxkart was a real loss just like blender
[14:46] <simplew> yvesD: here i go on what?
[14:47] <yvesD> simplew: if it is not connected, it cannot work
[14:47] <AlanBell> the others look like faults with your configuration rather than things Ubuntu has messed up the packaging of. You can report it with ubuntu-bug blender if you want
[14:47] <georgeph> MonkeyDust especially since blender is getting some elementary sterioscopic rendering
[14:47] <simplew> yvesD: but the cable is connected
[14:47] <yvesD> simplew: shure. but something is wrong with the connection, otherwise lsusb would show it
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> georgeph  don't forget to read useful posts that are adressed to you
[14:48] <georgeph> Alan...how do you report to ubuntu-bug blender
[14:48] <riqdiiz> What is the equivalent of .bat extension in ubuntu?
[14:48] <georgeph> Alan...some people would like to use free stereoscopic rendering
[14:48] <simplew> yvesD: of course, thats why im asking about it
[14:49] <llutz> riqdiiz: a shellscript
[14:49] <simplew> yvesD: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1072519
[14:49] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1072519 in xorg (Ubuntu) "After upgrade to Quantal, Dell mouse stops working - Dell Latitude e6410" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[14:49] <riqdiiz> Yes
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> riqdiiz  i use a small custom script without extension
[14:50] <llutz> riqdiiz: names/extension do say nothing about a file. a script can be named as anything. just make sure to use a correct shebang and make the script executable
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[14:51] <dildo> tes
[14:51] <BehindPenguin> asd
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[14:52] <georgeph> Alan..i am fairly certain the blender failure is x related ...it seems to be a color issue
[14:53] <georgeph> Alan...but some people would like to freely develop stereoscopic rendered stuff with free bullet physics for 3d vision games
[14:54] <georgeph> Alan...and supertuxkart was making some elementary progress with bullet physics
[14:55] <georgeph> Alan...although not stereoscopic rendered frames
[14:55] <georgeph> Alan...yet
[14:56] <riqdiiz> llutz: how do you make a script executable?
[14:56] <llutz> riqdiiz: chmod +x file
[14:56] <arabi> i dont want to dispaly " myname@computername " in terminal... i just wanna display $ instead of that anyone can help????
[14:56] <riqdiiz> In ubuntu?
[14:57] <llutz> riqdiiz: in any linux/unix
[14:57] <Virunga> Do you know how to jump at the end of a file with Vi?
[14:58] <llutz> arabi: export PS1="\$"   in your ~/.profile
[14:58] <Pumpkin-_> Virunga: upper case G
[14:59] <arabi> llutz where i want to type it
[14:59] <riqdiiz> llutz: syntax for file x
[14:59] <georgeph> quakeguy...what a name ...are you working on a free openarena
[14:59] <Virunga> Pumpkin-_: thanks you!!
[14:59] <Virunga> thank*
[15:01] <arabi> llutz I didnt get you
[15:01] <arabi> pls help
[15:01] <yvesD> simplew: what does lsusb say, when the mouse works?
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[15:02] <arabi> i dont want to dispaly " myname@computername " in terminal... i just wanna display $ instead of that anyone can help????
[15:04] <Pumpkin-_> arabi: llutz answered the question. You need to play with your PS1 variable (which controls your prompt).
[15:07] <sumanth> how to install intel grahics driver  in ubuntu
[15:07] <sumanth> how to install intel grahics driver  in ubuntu
[15:08] <georgeph> sumanth...man that stuff is extremely difficult...it took many days to just install an old ati driver
[15:08] <sumanth> geogreph, tell me how to install
[15:09] <georgeph> sumanth...well manually remove all the x libs and binaries...and build the xfree tarballs from scratch
[15:09] <sumanth> geogreph, next
[15:09] <georgeph> sumanth...then it will build the right directories....and have some configuration tools and configuation files
[15:10] <sumanth> geogreph, what are the configuration tools and configuation files
[15:10] <riqdiiz> llutz: I thought chmod +x only changes permissions.
[15:11] <llutz> riqdiiz: read "man chmod"
[15:11] <georgeph> sumanth..xf86config....and the .conf file in /etc/X11...so the old drivers can talk to it and modify it properly
[15:11] <sumanth> geogreph, there is no x11 conf
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> riqdiiz  permission to execute, that is correct
[15:12] <georgeph> sumanth...yes there is and the atidriver.sh modifies it properly
[15:13] <georgeph> sumanth but the real problem is broken blender and broken supertuxkart
[15:13] <Helio> Does anybody here have any idea where I could talk to mtron (the optimus guy) i need some help from him.
[15:13] <pringlescan> Hello all, I'm trying to install Apache 2 on Ubuntu 12.04 and I get unmet dependencies. I've run all the standard apt-get commands (auto-remove, purge, update, upgrade, install -f) and I still cannot install Apache2. Any suggestions? I googled it...
[15:13] <sumanth> georgeph, there is any ppa
[15:14] <georgeph> sumanth...i dont' know about ppa stuff...that kind of packaging stuff i am not familiar with
[15:14] <georgeph> sumanth...i can barely work with tarballs and debs
[15:14] <Pici> pringlescan: can you pastebin the exact messages you're getting?
[15:15] <sumanth> georgeph, can you tell  me how to install with deb package
[15:15] <georgeph> sumanth....well no guarantees for cross os stuff...but you can try dpkg -i filename.deb
[15:15] <georgeph> sumanth...sometimes it works
[15:16] <pringlescan> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1372611/
[15:16] <georgeph> sumanth...but get the right debian files for your processor
[15:16] <aristidesfl> hi
[15:16] <sumanth> georgeph, where can i find deb packages for intell hd graphics
[15:17] <georgeph> sumanth...oh i don't know..you would have to call intel and ask them about their hardware support
[15:17] <pringlescan> I'm using precise in my sources.list I didn't change anything in there from vanilla Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:17] <llutz> georgeph: please be helpful or stop your nonsense comments
[15:17] <llutz> sumanth: what intel-chipset?
[15:17] <sumanth> georgeph.., thanks dude
[15:18] <aristidesfl> I've replaced the motherboard of my server, but now the network interface doesn't appear in ifconfig and it takes a while to boot with the message "Waiting for network configuration"
[15:18] <aristidesfl> what should I do?
[15:18] <georgeph> llutz...it is not nonsense..just facts
[15:18] <Boreeas> pm-hibernate exits without error message, what can I do?
[15:19] <pringlescan> Pici: it installed it as apache2.2 somehow even though I used apt-get install apache2 to install it, i could not run apt-get remove apache2 to remove it
[15:19] <pringlescan> that seems like a bug to me
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[15:20] <Pici> pringlescan: What does apt-cache policy apache2-mpm-prefork say?
[15:20] <BehindPenguin> test
[15:22] <pringlescan> Installed: (none). Candidate: 2.2.22-1ubuntu1 Version Table: 2.2.22-1ubuntu1 and then it lists where the packages are coming from
[15:23] <pringlescan> pici: i got it working, but I see a bunch of people having this issue in google, so it's rather odd, none of the solutions worked for me, I did have apache2.2 installed but I purged that, not sure how it got installed
[15:25] <Pici> pringlescan: If you have precise-security and precise-updates enabled you shouldn't be having this issue.  I have both enabled here and I see the proper package versions fine (and apache is installed and working)
[15:27] <sdasda> hi! is there any similar program for ubuntu like the "rawcopy"?
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> sdasda  what does it do?
[15:28] <Pumpkin-_> sdasda: don't know what rawcopy is, but it sounds a lot like what "dd" does. Check the manpage / google it and see if it what you need.
[15:28] <v0lksman> anyone know how to create a swap partition in fdisk?  this version doesn't seem to let me!
[15:28] <sdasda> HDD Raw Copy Tool is a utility for low-level, sector-by-sector hard disk duplication and image creation.
[15:29] <llutz> v0lksman: create a new partition (n), set size etc., then change type (t) to 82
[15:29] <Pumpkin-_> sdasda: yeah, that really sounds like dd
[15:30] <v0lksman> llutz: thanks!  been a while!  :)
[15:31] <sdasda> thanks
[15:32] <v0lksman> http://dpaste.com/833825/  <-  still can't make them identical which is weird
[15:32] <georgeph> sdasda...they are just trying to put norton out of business
[15:33] <georgeph> sdasda...but it is none of my business
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> sdasda  linux has dd if=blah of=blah    <-- input file/output file
[15:33] <nibbler> v0lksman: you can use sfdisk to dump on one and write to another hd. or just copy everything with the tool of your chice (cp, dd, cat)
[15:34] <sdasda> <georgeph> I can't really understand you. i was asking about dd, not about norton :)
[15:34] <dan-mytt> anyone with experienc e of ssh
[15:34] <sdasda> <MonkeyDust> thank you
[15:34] <v0lksman> I think I'm going to rebuild.  This was supposed to build with the disks mirrored.
[15:34] <georgeph> sdasda...well dd is a free version of norton ghost
[15:34] <nibbler> lol
[15:34] <georgeph> sdasda...so who will pay for norton's products
[15:34] <avinash> hello
[15:34] <nibbler> !ask | dan-mytt
[15:34] <ubottu> dan-mytt: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[15:35] <boichev> avinash, hi
[15:37] <dan-mytt> set up openssh- server on host and client on netbook can ssh across LAN but when i log in on an external internet connection(BT Openzone) and try to shh into the host the connection times out and nothing happens! i set port forawrding for the host on the router!! i allowed port 22 on firewall inbound and outbound for everyone but still no connection
[15:38] <x7fffffff_> Hello there, ive got a question and i hope i am in the right channel...  on my newly installed 12.10 (x64) box im trying to install fglrx which installs just fine, however on reboot it automaticly sets a default resolution that my monitor cant handle which shuts off at that point leaving me blinded. On debian i'd edit that in [/etc/X11/xorg.conf] however on this version of ubuntu i dont find...
[15:38] <x7fffffff_> ...that file. Any idea where that configuration/data is now stored?
[15:39] <gy> channel
[15:39] <sdasda> In fact I want to recover some data after formating... Do anyone know how to do it?
[15:39] <sdasda> I've already tried testdisk, but no resoult...
[15:40] <atlef> what about photorec
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> !recover | sdasda maybe this is helpful
[15:40] <ubottu> sdasda maybe this is helpful: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel
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[15:40] <boichev> x7fffffff_, look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[15:41] <Butcho> Anyone help with installing the nvidia driver? http://pastebin.com/fpy0u3Zx
[15:41] <sdasda> !recovery
[15:41] <ubottu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[15:41] <Toph2> my comuter hangs almost daily , running 12,04. Can someone direct me to a log that indicates what is happening, please?
[15:41] <sdasda> Thank you,,, well it was an ntfs filesystem
[15:42] <x7fffffff_> Thank you boichev, however installing isnt the issue, im trying to find out where the xorg configuration is stored on 12.10
[15:42] <RamchandraApte> x7fffffff_: use locate command to search the entire filesystem instantly
[15:42] <georgeph> sdasda well for woking with ntfs stuff.you can try backtrak5linux...it has some ntfs-3 stuff
[15:42] <boichev> x7fffffff_, I think if there is no such file you just can make one
[15:42] <sdasda> thanks
[15:42] <RamchandraApte> boichev: no
[15:42] <RamchandraApte> boichev: the config files are stored in a dir
[15:43] <x7fffffff_> I tried making one but it doesnt get read... guessing its using a config file other than xorg.conf
[15:43] <RamchandraApte> x7fffffff_: yes
[15:43] <RamchandraApte> x7fffffff_: ubuntu uses a dir for the xorg config files
[15:44] <boichev> RamchandraApte, x7fffffff_ my bad :)
[15:44] <RamchandraApte> x7fffffff_: found it. it is at /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[15:44] <peeps> i just upgraded to 12.10 and i can't get into gui now.  the login screen comes up but when i enter my password the screen flashes black for a second and then returns to login screen
[15:45] <peeps> this is my Xorg.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1372678
[15:45] <Butcho> peeps, hit Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in, and delete the most recently created dotfiles
[15:45] <micfan> O, some times it should be restart for login
[15:46] <peeps> Butcho: dotfiles?
[15:46] <RamchandraApte> peeps: (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
[15:46] <AR_> suck 3 anuses
[15:46] <RamchandraApte> peeps: you have a problem with nvidia drivers. I don't know how to help with that as I always use intel HD graphics( they can play Doom 3 decently)
[15:47] <x7fffffff_> Thanks but none of these configs hold any information to the Driver and Screen part of the xorg config
[15:47] <RamchandraApte> x7fffffff_: what is your proble,?
[15:47] <sdasda> Thank you. Do you think if ddrescue would work? I mean is it for restoring, or it just makes a copy of the disk?
[15:47] <peeps> ok, i'll try reinstalling them i guess.  this crap seems to happen on every upgrade
[15:47] <georgeph> Ramchandr...what about cube...cube2...cube assault does intel support the free stuff
[15:47] <micfan> may close two display mode in bios
[15:47] <x7fffffff_> [the driver isnt specified in the configs in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf]
[15:47] <RamchandraApte> georgeph: ?
[15:48] <RamchandraApte> georgeph: is uses open-source drivers
[15:48] <x7fffffff_> my problem is that the default resolution isnt supported by my monitor and therefor needs to be changed in the config.
[15:48] <georgeph> Ramchandra...have you tested the free cube 2 engines with your intel graphics
[15:48] <Butcho> omg, they really need to set up a dependenct for nvidia-current to linux-source and linux-headers
[15:48] <maxwel> i can put ubuntu in my lotop ?
[15:48] <x7fffffff_> but the config is lost!
[15:49] <Butcho> peeps, did that fix it?
[15:49] <peeps> Butcho: i don't know what you mean dotfiles
[15:49] <RamchandraApte> maxb: does it a dedicated graphics card?
[15:49] <georgeph> Ramchand...but really people are getting tired of fps stuff....even third party shooters don't draw an audience anymore...not sure what the outcome will be for the new laura croft propietary stuff
[15:50] <RamchandraApte> georgeph: at least my 3D gaming needs are satisfied by my integrated card :D
[15:50] <Butcho> peeps, is there a .dmrc in your home dir
[15:50] <georgeph> Ramchan...well see if the free cube engines work on your intel
[15:50] <RamchandraApte> georgeph: pm me for further things
[15:51] <georgeph> Ramchan...if you like that propietary doom stuff
[15:51] <riqdiiz> If I want to open firefox and type in myaddress.com  and click enter then copy all the resulting contents of the page into tomboy notes.how do I use code to do all this withouthaving to click all those buttons?
[15:51] <RamchandraApte> georgeph: doom is not propriatery
[15:51] <peeps> Butcho: yeah
[15:51] <Butcho> delete it
[15:51] <x7fffffff_> thankyou...
[15:51] <georgeph> Ramchand...yes it is....they upgraded to quake engine but still fps
[15:51] <georgeph> Ramchan...but the cube engines are free
[15:51] <peeps> Butcho: still the same problem
[15:52] <Butcho> eh, restart maybe
[15:52] <Butcho> or restart the X server
[15:52] <mr_lou> I'm finding myself in need of buying some semi-great graphics-card, since my computer is too slow for semi-advanced video-editing. But I have bad experience with installing a graphicscard on a running Linux system, where as there'd be no problem if I'd install the graphicscard first and then install Linux.....   But I'd rather not have to install Ubuntu and all my programs all over again, so my question is; is there any particular graphicscar
[15:52] <mr_lou> d I'll have more luck with on a running Ubuntu system?
[15:53] <RamchandraApte> mr_lou: which graphics card do you currently have?
[15:53] <mr_lou> RamchandraApte, Have no idea. Some not-so-spectacular onboard one.
[15:53] <mr_lou> RamchandraApte, It's using Nvidia drivers though.
[15:53] <escott> mr_lou, not sure how a graphics card is going to help that much with video editing
[15:53] <RamchandraApte> mr_lou: my integrated Intel HD works quite well with Blender
[15:54] <mr_lou> escott, Local computershop dude says it will.
[15:54] <mr_lou> escott, What would you recommend then?
[15:54] <Laedn> so as far as i understand, journalling only help if the system hangs up and bust be hard-resetted, or if the is a power outage. Is it really all that?
[15:54] <RamchandraApte> mr_lou: more memory and a good CPU and a good GPU
[15:54] <georgeph> Ramch...man you are lucky...the only way i currently have blender working is with nvidia on windows...but i would like to get it working with ati on linux
[15:54] <mr_lou> RamchandraApte, My current one also works fine, except when I start adding various filters and whatnot on my videoclips, then it becomes slow.
[15:54] <RamchandraApte> mr_lou: with what?
[15:54] <mr_lou> RamchandraApte, I'm using Kdenlive.
[15:55] <escott> mr_lou, yes the cards can accelerate decode, but.... that requires driver and program support and the drivers coming from AMD/NVIDIA have never been particularly good wrt those additional features so the programs were never written to take advantage of it
[15:55] <RamchandraApte> mr_lou: when you are rendering it in the highest settings?
[15:55] <mr_lou> RamchandraApte, No, just playing back in the program.
[15:55] <escott> Laedn, yes
[15:55] <RamchandraApte> mr_lou: give the output of lspci|grep VGA
[15:55] <georgeph> Ramch...nobody cares about rendering for 50 inch plasma screens.... they care about free stereoscopic rendering for 3d vision
[15:56] <mr_lou> RamchandraApte, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
[15:56] <sudaya> hi all how to auto mount ntfs drive with user but not root user
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> sudaya  in /etc/fstab
[15:56] <escott> sudaya, you can set uid,gid options in your fstab entry
[15:57] <RamchandraApte> sudaya: I think there is an option to auto-mount drives.
[15:57] <v0lksman> when I boot from a key with 12.04 I only see this little tiny blob in the lower left of the screen not the choose a language menu you should see...any ideas why?  I need that primary menu
[15:57] <sudaya> escott: i have add UUID=E6FE79EBFE79B481	/media/System 	ntfs 	users,defaults 0 0 in fstab
[15:57] <sudaya> escott: how to set uid
[15:57] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[15:58] <escott> sudaya, uid=1000,gid=1000 in the options
[15:58] <Laedn> escott: could you please remember me which was the program to remove journaling on 12.04 or 12.10 ?
[15:58] <sudaya> escott: uid=1000 means ??
[15:58] <escott> Laedn, etunefs
[15:59] <escott> sudaya, it makes 1000 the owner of the files in that folder
[15:59] <Laedn> escott: thank you!
[16:00] <sudaya> escott: thank you
[16:00] <PrototypeX29A> don't the package openjdk-7-jdk and openjdk-7-jre include the binaries java and javac?
[16:00] <PrototypeX29A> my eclipse doesn't run anymore and it looks like the binaries got removed, but installing jre and jdk doesn't help
[16:01] <blackjack84_ang> prima  ti sposo poi ti rovino
[16:03] <PrototypeX29A> if i try to run 'java' ubuntu recommends to install openjdk-7-jre-headless (and others) but it already IS installed
[16:03] <Laedn> escott: sorry, have you any idea how i can run the command if the boot SSD is still mounted?
[16:03] <PrototypeX29A> is there anythin broken with my packaging?
[16:03] <escott> Laedn, livecd
[16:04] <Laedn> escott: ok, so the change will remain? i'm not actually sure where it will store that value tho
[16:04] <escott> Laedn, its stored in the superblock
[16:05] <Laedn> escott: k great
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[16:10] <Guest34046> How to make my USB Bootable, and install windows on it? Because I'm trying too install Windows on one hard drive, and on the other one is THIS OS which is Ubuntu.
[16:11] <Phryq> hey, is there a way to run fluxbox other than with "startx" ?
[16:11] <lawltoad> anyone have any experience or read on af anyone installing linux on the lenovo ideapad yoga 13?
[16:11] <Phryq> or alternatively, a way to add a regular user account to run startx?
[16:12] <escott> Phryq, do you really want a "fluxbox" session. like really truly want no session manager
[16:14] <escott> !ot | Guest34046
[16:14] <ubottu> Guest34046: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[16:14] <Guest34046> ubottu: Okay =)
[16:15] <Cong> hello!
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> im looking to remove zeitgeist without messing up unity-desktop
[16:15] <phunyguy_work> hey guys, I am trying to add Twitter as an online account in 12.10 and I am behind a firewall with SOCKS proxy via SSH tunnel.  google, facebook, and this IRC work good, but twitter will not do anything after I click the twitter button and then it wants me to authorize ubuntu to access my twitter account
[16:16] <phunyguy_work> I just get an empty window
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> phunguy_work:maybe twitter using an alternative port? try nmap yourself
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[16:17] <phunyguy_work> lotuspsychje: will nmap honor a socks proxy?
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> phunguy_work:not sure, its worth a try
[16:18] <phunyguy_work> It works on my laptop when at home, just not here at work.
[16:18] <phunyguy_work> (behind the proxy)
[16:18] <phunyguy_work> that leads me to believe there is an issue with the proxy implementation portion of twitter/gwibber
[16:18] <phunyguy_work> or twitter/online accounts
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> phunguy_work: is your problem something like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/172032/when-adding-twitter-details-to-online-account-page-keeps-timing-out-before-i-ca
[16:20] <phunyguy_work> lotuspsychje: no, when you click twitter, and it comes up with the window that you would normally enter your twitter username and password, nothing happens.  No login dialog.
[16:20] <Laedn> escott: i'm wondering just a thing: how can i disable journalling on a ubuntu virtual machine?
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> phunyguy_work:not sure then mate sorry
[16:22] <phunyguy_work> lotuspsychje: also like I said, normally it works great when I am at home, but on this PC I am forced to proxy.  All other online accounts including this IRC chat via Empathy work great.  Just no twitter
[16:22] <phunyguy_work> ok.
[16:24] <llutz> Laedn: sudo tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/sdXY           to turn journalling off, make a backup before
[16:25] <Laedn> llutz: but i'm supposed to unmount the boot drive first. And how can i run a live on a VM guest?
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[16:26] <llutz> Laedn: just use the iso as boot-device
[16:26] <amcsi_work> hi
[16:26] <Laedn> llutz: sounds neart
[16:26] <Laedn> s/neart/neat
[16:27] <escott> Laedn, same answer. livecd
[16:27] <amcsi_work> I mounted an ssh server with sshfs to some folder in /media, but my VPS failed which caused the ssh connection to terminate. Now I cannot unmount the sshfs, and also, linux hangs when I even do ls on /media. How do I fix this?
[16:27] <escott> Laedn, of course it being virtual you just pass the virtualization system the iso and it will emulate the drive. so i guess its "virtual live cd"
[16:27] <bdi> is there anything like dropbox i can use to enable users across different platforms to synchronize files via my server ?
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[16:28] <escott> diverdude, you want to run something internally?
[16:28] <Laedn> escott: yeah sorry that was pretty obv. I'm a little bit slow today :(
[16:28] <diverdude> escott, yeah
[16:28] <llutz> bdi http://owncloud.org/
[16:28] <OerHeks> bdi ubuntu-one ?
[16:30] <leftist> fter you download jre how do you install it? i have so much difficulty with java in ubuntu...
[16:30] <leftist> [11:30] [Error] after: Unknown command.
[16:31] <sledges> please thumbs up for Jolla! GNU/Linux smartphone developer,reviving fun-rich MeeGo codebase/N9 experience! http://www.tosielamandiili.fi/peukutus.shtml (press Tyykaa under logo) - they need your votes to beat rival which gained 4k votes over 1 night :( poll closes soon & Jolla is presenting UI and SDK tomorrow at #slush12
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> sledges  wrong channel
[16:32] <sledges> apologies for spamming, but it looks appropriate
[16:32] <llutz> spam never  is appropriate
[16:32] <leftist> why am i always told i need to install java when i knnow it's installed?
[16:33] <leftist> i just checked the control panel and it shows it installed.
[16:33] <escott> leftist, probably not in your path
[16:33] <sledges> for the sake of FOSS in our hands in the shape of a smartphone?
[16:33] <phunyguy_work> sledges this is a support channel
[16:33] <phunyguy_work> therefore spam is never appropriate
[16:33] <escott> leftist, check update-alternatives to see what you have selected for your java,javac
[16:34] <leftist> ok escott thanks
[16:34] <leftist> btw i run 10.04 lts
[16:34] <sledges> apologies, won't do this again
[16:34] <marlic> ?
[16:34] <phunyguy_work> for some reason I don't believe you.
[16:35] <phunyguy_work> just a hunch.
[16:35] <sledges> well this was my first time, apparently the last, seeing how it was welcomed/against the rules
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[16:38] <BluesKaj> sledges, just leave the baggage behind next time  :)
[16:39] <leftist> what happened sledges? i love controversy  :D
[16:39] <sledges> read up ;)
[16:40] <bazhang> !ot | sledges leftist
[16:40] <ubottu> sledges leftist: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[16:40] <sledges> !guidelines
[16:40] <ubottu> The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[16:40] <bazhang> sledges, thats enough
[16:40] <phunyguy_work> I suggest those guidelines get read, as they mention bot abuse.
[16:41] <morgoth> hi
[16:41] <morgoth> is there no qt3 support in kubuntu 12.10? or why was nethack-qt removed? im devastated, guys!
[16:41] <phunyguy_work> morgoth, #kubuntu may be more appropriate if you can't find the answer here
[16:42] <morgoth> phunyguy_work: thanks, ill check there
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[16:42] <morgoth> although i was pretty sure that they all use the same package repository, only with different packages to be installed by the installation media
[16:43] <morgoth> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal main restricted
[16:43] <phunyguy_work> morgoth: correct, but most users here are ubuntu, not Kubuntu, and even if the #kubuntu channel is slow, you will probably still get a faster answer there on a kubuntu related question
[16:44] <phunyguy_work> morgoth: I wasnt saying you were wrong for asking, I was saying this may not be the best place to ask.
[16:45] <BluesKaj> morgoth, is qt4 not working for you ?
[16:45] <PrototypeX29A> it seems that i am missing /etc/alternatives/java completely, to my understanding it should be there after i have installed openjdk-7-jre
[16:45] <morgoth> BluesKaj: it is working, but i figured the nethack-qt package used libqt3-mt, which is no longer available
[16:46] <BluesKaj> ok morgoth , I'm not familiar with nethack-qt
[16:46] <Phryq> <escott>, yes I do
[16:47] <Phryq> I want to run only fluxbox, with maybe a file manager like nautilus
[16:47] <escott> Phryq, in that case i guess create an Xsession file in /etc/X11
[16:47] <phunyguy_work> I stand corrected, but BluesKaj, you ARE in the #kubuntu channel, no?
[16:47] <phunyguy_work> :P
[16:47] <Walex> Phryq: 'nautilus' will most likely pull in most of GNOME as a side effect
[16:48] <grendal_prime> ok
[16:48] <BluesKaj> phunyguy_work, yes I am
[16:48] <Riddell> morgoth: yes it's been removed because qt 3 has been removed, bugs.debian.org/604363
[16:48] <phunyguy_work> another one in the #kubuntu channel.
[16:49] <morgoth> Riddell: then this is the time to get involved, as soon as i manage to build the qt4 version. :S
[16:49] <morgoth> Riddell: thanks
[16:49] <phunyguy_work> ok I'm done for now.  I need to ask my question again I think, I can't get Twitter to give me a login screen via online-accounts when behind a proxy.
[16:50] <phunyguy_work> and come to think of it, Gwibber itself gives me no content even though facebook maps.
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[16:50] <phunyguy_work> I am chatting with you on IRC via the proxy and empathy
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[16:53] <ChristopherAlan> I'm running Ubuntu on a powermac g5,
[16:53] <ChristopherAlan> runs good,  anyone think I will have any problems with booting & grub
[16:53] <ChristopherAlan> if I install multiple distro's to my machine ?
[16:53] <teratoma> so i can connect to my work's Microsoft PPTP VPN , in the graphical interface ( I guess its network manager ).  how can i do this from the command line ?
[16:55] <llutz> teratoma: http://askubuntu.com/questions/57339/connect-disconnect-from-vpn-from-the-command-line
[16:55] <killer> how do i re-partition my btrfs  partition(seperate for keeping data only)...in precise
[16:55] <escott> killer, repartition meaning?
[16:55] <theadmin> teratoma: Use "pptpsetup" to configure the connection and "pon connection-name" to connect.
[16:56] <llutz> teratoma: and you want to ask your it-profs why they still use pptp...
[16:56] <escott> !ppc | ChristopherAlan
[16:56] <ubottu> ChristopherAlan: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[16:56] <killer> ok ......i did n't make it clear enough, i mean i want to resize it ....(shrink it):escott
[16:56] <escott> ChristopherAlan, i realize thats probably not helpful
[16:56] <teratoma> thanks.  i have no control over the terrible VPN!
[16:57] <escott> killer, then you need to use the btrfs tools to shrink the filesystem first, then you can shrink the partition
[16:57] <ChristopherAlan> it's okay hah
[16:57] <mllie> How do I do to automount some usb hdds? To mount them now I do like this:  mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /media/usb0 -o uid=martin
[16:57] <escott> !fstab | mllie
[16:57] <ubottu> mllie: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[16:57] <killer> i have installed btrfs-tools but still can't resize it : escott
[16:57] <ChristopherAlan> I've just read about people with problems, so I cast a lure seeing if anyone had some personal insight on it in here,  thanks
[16:58] <mllie> escott: yes, but I don't know how to write it correctly there. The mount-command workds
[16:58] <mllie> escott: but I want to be able to plug them in after boot also for example
[16:58] <escott> ChristopherAlan, im just not sure how many people here are going to have a ppc system much less have multiple distros on it
[16:58] <ChristopherAlan> I understood it was a long shot
[16:58] <marlic> !
[16:58] <escott> mllie, (a) you need to use blkid to identify the proper UUID
[16:59] <mllie> escott: blkid?
[16:59] <escott> mllie, then it will be roughly "UUID /media/usb0 ntfs uid=1000 0 0"
[16:59] <escott> !uuid | mllie
[16:59] <ubottu> mllie: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[17:00] <mllie> escott: I see
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[17:02] <MrELusiveness> hmmm
[17:02] <MrELusiveness> iam currently using 12.04 LTS 64 bit
[17:02] <MrELusiveness> is it worth moving up to 12.10?
[17:03] <mllie> escott: something like this? 8AE8FF55E8FF3E4F        /media/usb0     ntfs    uid=martin      0       0
[17:03] <theadmin> MrELusiveness: Depends on your purposes. If you require stability and support, then probably not. If you want new features, sure. I myself am waiting for 14.04
[17:03] <MrELusiveness> iam concerned about better operation with wine
[17:03] <escott> !ntfs | mllie also check this. you probably want to setup the ntfs-3g driver not the in kernel driver, and i dont know what that looks like in fstab
[17:03] <ubottu> mllie also check this. you probably want to setup the ntfs-3g driver not the in kernel driver, and i dont know what that looks like in fstab: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[17:03] <mllie> escott: in fstab
[17:03] <MrELusiveness> 14.04?
[17:03] <mllie> escott: I just need read-access :)
[17:03] <escott> mllie, you shouldn't say "martin" in fstab. it might work but we usually put numbers in fstab
[17:04] <mllie> escott: how do I get the uid?
[17:04] <escott> mllie, also consider setting gid, and noexec
[17:04] <escott> mllie, "id"
[17:04] <MrELusiveness> well sometime in april 2013 support will end for 12.04 i read
[17:04] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, thats not correct
[17:05] <mllie> escott: better like this? 8AE8FF55E8FF3E4F        /media/usb0     ntfs    uid=1000,gid=1000,noexec        0       0
[17:05] <bazhang> it's FIVE years MrELusiveness
[17:05] <MrELusiveness> that was froma  public ubuntu blog
[17:05] <theadmin> mllie: No, more of: UUID=8AE8FF55E8FF3E4F /media/usb0 ntfs-3g user,users,nofail,mode=0777 0 0
[17:05] <MrELusiveness> ok cool
[17:05] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, 10.04 is in 2013
[17:05] <MrELusiveness> now if only the wine packages could get a update :D
[17:06] <mllie> theadmin: I don't need write-access and then don't want to install ntfs-3g :)
[17:06] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, #winehq for their repo
[17:06] <MrELusiveness> oh then someone must have confused 12.10 with 12.04
[17:06] <MrELusiveness> yeah i know
[17:06] <theadmin> mllie: Oh, okay, then: UUID=whatever /media/usb0 ntfs defaults,nofail 0 0
[17:06] <MrELusiveness> i was in the winehq channle all this last week
[17:06] <axgb123> I have an internet problem on ubuntu. sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. I dont know why. I am dual boot 12.10 and win7. What should i do?
[17:06] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, no, 12.10 is 18 months
[17:06] <mllie> theadmin: what is nofail?
[17:07] <theadmin> mllie: The "nofail" is necessary to prevent errors if the device isn't present on bootup, judging by "usb0" I suppose you want that.
[17:07] <bazhang> axgb123, wifi?
[17:07] <mllie> theadmin: correct. And that will be accessable when plugged in then?
[17:07] <MrELusiveness> being dual boot wont affect your internet connection
[17:07] <theadmin> mllie: Yeah
[17:08] <axgb123> yes wifi. ethernet works fine but this is wifi im talking about
[17:08] <escott> theadmin, mllie wants it automounted on boot for "martin" not sure users is going to know who the correct owner is
[17:08] <bazhang> !wifi | axgb123
[17:08] <ubottu> axgb123: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:08] <axgb123> our house (unfortunatly) is done with wifi
[17:08] <MrELusiveness> drivers can be the problem
[17:08] <mllie> theadmin: is it mounted as martin in this case then?
[17:08] <escott> theadmin, if you set it to 777 that i opens it up. perhaps thats satisfactory to mllie
[17:08] <axgb123> someone said that something on windows will fix it. i changed that setting and nothing happened.
[17:08] <theadmin> mllie: Who cares what the owner is if the access is read-only anyway? Won't matter.
[17:09] <MrELusiveness> yeah alot of the chepa notebooks that came out have not the best wifi installed but ubuntu works with a bunch
[17:09] <axgb123> and it sometimes  works, sometimes doesn't so that shows that drivers are not the problem
[17:09] <MrELusiveness> err cheap notebooks
[17:09] <mllie> theadmin: well, it does. At least when I did mount with mount-command it was only the owner that did get read-access
[17:09] <axgb123> also this is a desktop computer and also i tried Wicd and the same problem was the case
[17:09] <theadmin> mllie: If necessary, though, run "id -u martin" and find the UID, then add "uid=1000" to the options, where 1000 is the number you get
[17:09] <mllie> theadmin: shall I do ,ro as well? because rw is default?
[17:10] <theadmin> mllie: The "ntfs" driver doesn't support read-write access so that does nothing\
[17:10] <escott> mllie, the selected driver doesn't do writes so the ro is redundant but its no harm to add it
[17:10] <axgb123> but, for some reason, if i reboot into windows then reboot into ubuntu it starts working again. Very strange
[17:10] <escott> mllie, makes your fstab more explicit which is good
[17:10] <leftist> really strange escott but i was able to get java to work with firefox and the really odd thing is that i was shown the routine for it on googles dev portal and yet they didnt have anything for chrome of which i use so i used firefox. i'm startinng to have seconnd thhoughts about chrome in general for any os to be honest. but i'm good! Thanks!
[17:10] <MrELusiveness> a reboot does tend to fix things alone
[17:10] <mllie> escott: theadmin: like this? UUID=8AE8FF55E8FF3E4F   /media/usb0     ntfs    defaults,uid=1000,ro,nofail     0       0
[17:11] <theadmin> mllie: Yeah that looks about right
[17:11] <axgb123> no, it only works if i boot into windows then reboot into ubuntu. I have tried both and only the first works
[17:11] <theadmin> mllie: Make sure you *are* id 1000 though with the command I gave (id -u martin)
[17:11] <mllie> theadmin: sweet. How do I test it without reboot?
[17:11] <MrELusiveness> cold boots
[17:11] <mllie> theadmin: it is 1000
[17:11] <theadmin> mllie: Well, to test it you can run "sudo mount -a"
[17:11] <MrELusiveness> reset alot of stuff
[17:11] <mllie> theadmin: first umount /media/usb0?
[17:11] <MrELusiveness> like total shutdown
[17:11] <theadmin> mllie: Well, yes
[17:11] <escott> mllie, you can customize till your eyes bleed. im sure that is adequate. i would probably throw gid=1000 and noexec on it
[17:12] <theadmin> escott: The gid for the "users" group on ubuntu is 1000? That's a weird choice...
[17:12] <MrELusiveness> but sounds like a driver/hardware issue
[17:12] <theadmin> Oh wait, ubuntu doesn't have "users"
[17:12] <mllie> theadmin: escott well, some errors. I gtg, brb!
[17:13] <axgb123> but it also does not work with wicd so how can it be drivers
[17:13] <escott> theadmin, no the "martin" group. i don't have a users group
[17:13] <datruth> Is there something betterthan virtualbox it seems to be the main cause of freezing and locking up my kubuntu system
[17:13] <axgb123> either when i boot up it works with both wicd and default network manager, or it works with neither. SO it cant be a drivers problem
[17:13] <MrELusiveness> ive seen driver that were ment for the hardware not always work right
[17:13] <escott> theadmin, mostly i dont like files that are owned by "joe:root"
[17:14] <axgb123> what should i try doing. ive tried almost everything but ive always had this same problem
[17:14] <MrELusiveness> then theres always that chance that the hardware is acting up
[17:14] <theadmin> escott: That's honestly a weird choice, most distros I know have a "users" group where pretty much every user who can log in gets added. Having separate groups for every user kind of nullifies the purpose of the group permission bit on files in your $HOME
[17:14] <MrELusiveness> WHAT? card that go bad? no way
[17:14] <axgb123> but it works almost perfectly on winows 7 when it ius booted into
[17:14] <escott> theadmin, i understand the point of it. just saying i dont have a users group, and AFAIK ubuntu has never by default had one
[17:14] <andygraybeal> is it possible to only use a touchscreen with ubuntu?  (like if i select an entry box it will popup with an onscreen keyboard?)
[17:15] <MrELusiveness> windows works with the hardware diffrently too
[17:15] <axgb123> its a tplink and it has an atheros chipset
[17:15] <theadmin> escott: Yeah I know, just rambling, forgot it doesn't, sorry
[17:15] <escott> theadmin, rather it has one but people aren't added to it automatically. its id 100
[17:15] <vivid> andygraybeal, yes its possible, the onscreen keyboard is called onboard
[17:16] <MrELusiveness> its best to go with hardware that share's dev info with open source developers
[17:16] <andygraybeal> vivid, how do i configure this?
[17:16] <axgb123> what should i do? im not expert. ive tried all sorts of crazy things to try and get it to work
[17:17] <MrELusiveness> hello again Vivid
[17:17] <theadmin> axgb123: Is ath9k loaded?
[17:17] <axgb123> what do it do? sudo apt-get install ath9k?
[17:17] <axgb123> i dont know if it is installed or loaded
[17:17] <axgb123> or whatever
[17:17] <v0lksman> anyone know if it's possible to convert a single drive system into a software RAID1 ?
[17:17] <theadmin> axgb123: Eh, no, just check if it's loaded: lsmod | grep ath
[17:18] <vivid> andygraybeal, i dont know, you may have to do some research
[17:18] <MrELusiveness> check to see if the are other drivers to choose from for that hardware
[17:18] <andygraybeal> vivid, thank you!
[17:18] <axgb123> im on ubuntu, and it just happens to be working now, as i said it sometimes does and sometimes does not
[17:18] <MrELusiveness> ubuntu gives me options for other drivers for my video card for example
[17:18] <theadmin> axgb123: Sounds sort of random, I dunno. Try updating your system, may be a bug that's fixed in a new release
[17:19] <theadmin> s/release/package versions/gi
[17:19] <axgb123> theadmin: ive updated, ive coped with the problem since about 11.10 when i started using ubuntu *A lot*
[17:19] <MrELusiveness> sometimes it will show a icon at the top of the screen for optional drivers
[17:19] <axgb123> this is what came out of the terminal :ath9k                 131308  0  mac80211              539908  1 ath9k ath9k_common           14055  1 ath9k ath9k_hw              395218  2 ath9k,ath9k_common ath                    23827  3 ath9k,ath9k_common,ath9k_hw cfg80211              206566  3 ath9k,mac80211,ath
[17:19] <MrELusiveness> or you can find the link in the system settings
[17:20] <theadmin> axgb123: Hm, looks good to me... But then again it *is* working now so that's no surprise
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[17:20] <MrELusiveness> did you go 32bit or 64bit with your ubuntu install?
[17:20] <escott> v0lksman, easily
[17:21] <MrELusiveness> axgb123
[17:21] <axgb123> i will get onto the irc on my laptop so i can chat while rebooting and whatever
[17:22] <MrELusiveness> i wonder what brand of hardware is it that the ath9k covers?
[17:23] <axgb1234> im axgb123 but on my laptop as i think the thing requires me to have a new nickname each time.
[17:23] <theadmin> MrELusiveness: Atheros, as the name suggests.
[17:23] <MrELusiveness> oh ok wasnt sure
[17:23] <axgb1234> i am "axgb123" but on my laptop. i think the thing requires me to have a new nickname each time.
[17:23] <theadmin> Easier to guess than say "fglrx"
[17:23] <axgb123> ive gone over to my laptop as axgb1234
[17:24] <axgb1234> shall i get the internet to not work and do what you say
[17:24] <MrELusiveness> if its working leave it alone lol
[17:24] <v0lksman> escott: docs?
[17:25] <axgb1234> no, i mean reboot and see if it stops working as it normally does in my experience
[17:25] <escott> v0lksman, just search for "convert to mdadm RAID1"
[17:25] <MrELusiveness> if you are going to reboot it, try full shut down
[17:25] <axgb1234> ok. thats a good idea
[17:25] <MrELusiveness> that might be key
[17:25] <axgb1234> i will try that
[17:25] <devilirium> Hello, is there a little application to download needed dependencies on every ./configure ?
[17:25] <axgb1234> yes. that sounds right to me
[17:26] <axgb1234> i will just try that now
[17:26] <SolarisBoy> devilirium: nice idea if not =)
[17:26] <MrELusiveness> windows might be resetting the hardware so a shut down might do the same
[17:26] <georgeph> man i am really tired...whats up with this uefi stuff..and ubuntu wanting the redhat kernel patches...but even if they get them they will not get the keys
[17:26] <axgb1234> it is shutting down now
[17:26] <bazhang> !ot | georgeph
[17:26] <ubottu> georgeph: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[17:26] <georgeph> is this the end of all linux distros except redhat
[17:27] <bazhang> georgeph, thats enough
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[17:27] <axgb1234> its starting up now
[17:27] <MrELusiveness> hardly geogeph
[17:27] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, lets move on please
[17:27] <MrELusiveness> ??
[17:27] <axgb1234> ive started up and it shows the animation for connecting and it shows that for ever
[17:28] <MrELusiveness> give it time axg1234
[17:28] <MrELusiveness> wifi can be slow and or picky
[17:28] <axgb1234> and it will show that until i boot into windows then into ubuntu again, i predict
[17:28] <MrELusiveness> do you ahve a switch ont he notebook that turns on and off the wifi?
[17:28] <axgb1234> it is a desktop pc
[17:28] <MrELusiveness> ohh
[17:29] <axgb1234> it seems the situation is that it needs to have been a restart from windows to work.
[17:29] <MrELusiveness> i saw you say laptop before
[17:29] <morgoth> I DID IT :D
[17:30] <axgb1234> no im chatting on the laptop so i can restart on the desktop without interruptions to the chat
[17:30] <morgoth> sorry. i compiled nethack for qt4
[17:30] <axgb1234> the laptop is also dual boot and it works 100% perfectly
[17:30] <morgoth> now i am going to find that guy who ported it, and kill him.
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[17:30] <MrELusiveness> iam going to say it has to do with the hardware and the driver
[17:30] <theadmin> morgoth: Why do you even need a Qt version, what's wrong with nethack-x11?
[17:30] <MrELusiveness> the fact you run a dual boot should not mean anything
[17:31] <axgb1234> but how it works has a direct relationship with whether i have just been into windows or not
[17:31] <morgoth> theadmin: i like the qt version better, and im a man of habits.
[17:31] <axgb1234> * i mean whether it works
[17:31] <huevolin1990> hello, i need help at consulting for a crash, but it is about hardware, not software
[17:31] <MrELusiveness> because of how windows activates stuff at boot up
[17:31] <theadmin> huevolin1990: There is ##hardware for hardware-specific questions.
[17:31] <huevolin1990> oh thanks :P
[17:32] <axgb1234> does winows sort of 'start up' the wireless card and ubuntu not, so do i need a driver that 'starts up' the card properly
[17:32] <axgb1234> *winows
[17:32] <axgb1234> *windows
[17:32] <MrELusiveness> do you have a different wifi card you could try in that pc? axgb1234
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[17:33] <temp> hello guys, does anyone know how to compile vhdl code with ghdl on a ubuntu 64-bit
[17:34] <georgeph> temp are you trying to design hardware stuff
[17:34] <axgb1234> a few years ago, for some reason i had a 32bit install so i tried an old 32bit wireless card i have. and that did not work. it did the same. now its 64bit
[17:34] <axgb1234> and i think *im not certain* that 32bit is incompatible with 64bit
[17:34] <MrELusiveness> most of the wifi cards you see in walmart work perfectly
[17:35] <axgb1234> i live in the united kingdom walmart does not exist there
[17:35] <MrELusiveness> doh lol
[17:35] <Lorra> Hey everybody, I've got a usb stick with write protect on (no hardware switch) and I'm unable to format it, how should I do to format it?
[17:35] <georgeph> axgb1234...you are lucky...wallmarket has put many small business here out of business and added to massive unemployment
[17:36] <MrELusiveness> heh
[17:36] <theadmin> Lorra: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1 # Or something like that.
[17:36] <axgb1234> this wireless card. i think came from totenam court road, when the computer was being built and there was a little panic with the wireless card being forgotten and bought from there
[17:36] <axgb1234> i dont live in the us so i dont realy know about walmart. all i know is that it is a shop
[17:36] <temp> georgeph: well not really, for now,I'm trying to test some of the vhdl code I have seen in a book I'm reading; I intead working on something hardware later though.
[17:36] <MrELusiveness> axgb1234 my thought was if you could a newer card 3com or something else as in a brand
[17:37] <MrELusiveness> err diffrent brand
[17:37] <georgeph> axgb1234...well they are big and have monopsony power...and have wiped out many small businesses that could not compete with their low prices
[17:37] <Lorra> theadmin: done already, says it can't open the device 'cause it's read-only
[17:37] <theadmin> Lorra: Oh, so it's hardware-protected... um... I dunno honestly if there's no switch
[17:38] <temp> georgeph: any guidance?
[17:38] <axgb1234> is the only option you think will work to buy a new one? the problem was that the card only works if i restarted from windows into ubuntu
[17:38] <MrELusiveness> axgd1234 if it keeps giving you problems then a new card might be the better choice
[17:39] <axgb1234> i would rather not get a new one
[17:39] <axgb1234> would that definitely solve it
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[17:39] <axgb1234> can you give me a link to one on amazon uk which will definitely work
[17:40] <MrELusiveness> if you were to get a new card i would say that your chances of support by both os's would be better and not only that, but you wouldnt have to worry about a old card going bad
[17:40] <MrELusiveness> theres always that chance
[17:40] <axgb1234> when the card was bought, no concideration was put into linux
[17:41] <axgb1234> linux was later
[17:41] <MrELusiveness> thats why its a good idea to research before buying
[17:41] <axgb1234> so should i research then buy another
[17:41] <uabn93> does anyone know a workaround for installer crashes? i filed a bug but it looks like a lot of them get ignored
[17:41] <MrELusiveness> google it is for free
[17:41] <MrELusiveness> :D
[17:42] <MrELusiveness> i would
[17:42] <axgb1234> because it says on a ubuntu database that my model of card works perfectly
[17:42] <MrELusiveness> compare to what the support list says for ubuntu
[17:42] <MrELusiveness> windows will alway cover more but checking with the support info for ubuntu you cant go wrong
[17:43] <uabn93> i really want to get this system installed
[17:43] <DaBas> Hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on my brand new setup with SSD but I noticed that the unpacking (DPKG) takes ages to be completed. On my mechanical hard disk the setup is completed in 20 minutes, on the SSD it takes more than 2hours. I configured the discard,noatime in /etc/fstab (ext4 filesystem). Anyone an idea?
[17:43] <MrELusiveness> slow ssd? dabas
[17:44] <MrELusiveness> theres a lot of cheap SSD's out there
[17:44] <DaBas> MrELusiveness: I did not bought the fasted ssd, but compared 2hours compared to a 20 minutes is to much
[17:44] <axgb1234> go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link and do ctrl + f and type TL-WN951N
[17:44] <MrELusiveness> well its buyer beware
[17:44] <escott> DaBas, have you tried without "discard"
[17:44] <axgb1234> try that and as you will see it says that it works and is tested (but only with some old versions
[17:45] <MrELusiveness> sounds limited
[17:45] <DaBas> escott: Yes, when it is installed vanilla, I excecuted the command sudo fstime / -v and i set the discard,noatim in /Etc/fstab
[17:45] <uabn93> do you think switching to 12.04 will fix it?
[17:45] <axgb1234> what do you mean sounds limited
[17:45] <datruth> I'm on 12.04 if I do an apt-get dist-upgrade will that bring me to 12.10?
[17:46] <MrELusiveness> if it only works with some older versions
[17:46] <axgb1234> go check it
[17:46] <Aquilas> exit
[17:46] <MrELusiveness> well if you looked it up you should know
[17:46] <uabn93> i think its the version of ubiquity on 12.10 that's giving me problems
[17:46] <axgb1234> surely they wont make the drivers worse in the new version
[17:46] <bazhang> datruth, dist-upgrade does NOT change versions
[17:46] <DaBas> MrELusiveness: yesterday I installed fedora 17 on the desktop and the ssd is working pretty fast (faster the mechanical) It's like that dpkg is taken to much tme
[17:47] <axgb1234> it says TL-WN951N  Atheros  ath9k  ?  Yes  Yes. Tested on Ubuntu 9.04, 9.10, 10.04  IEEE 802.11n does not work with 11.04. High Packet loss. Works fine in Wireless G. I believe this is a kernel/driver issue  2011-07-25
[17:47] <datruth> Ok then
[17:47] <MrELusiveness> DaBas is that SSD listed in the supported hardware?
[17:47] <DaBas> MrELusiveness: will check is immediately
[17:48] <escott> DaBas, and it was also slow without discard?
[17:48] <axgb1234> dabas is the SSD manufactured by OCZ and does it contain a sandforce controller
[17:48] <MrELusiveness> axgb1234 it looks like you could do better with a diffrent card then
[17:48] <uabn93> how do i troubleshoot installer crashes?
[17:48] <uabn93> anyone?
[17:48] <cordyceps> where does VLC save bookmarks, if it does?
[17:48] <DaBas> axgb1234: No is doesn't change a thing ...
[17:49] <axgb1234> shall i do that
[17:49] <MrELusiveness> YES
[17:49] <MrELusiveness> get a new card and solve your headache
[17:49] <escott> DaBas, i would certainly disable discard, and then i would check your alignment and blocksize
[17:49] <axgb1234> DaBas OCZ SSD drives have a very bad reputation for failing and working badly. My brother put his university coursework on an OCZ drive and lost a load of ti
[17:50] <cordyceps> where does VLC save bookmarks, if it does?
[17:50] <axgb1234> anyway i will get a new card which is definitely compatible
[17:50] <DaBas> axgb1234: I bought the crucial v4 3GB/s 128GB
[17:50] <MrELusiveness> DaBas yeah SSD drives are no where near replacing a regular harddrive just yet
[17:50] <uabn93> ssds have a greater fail rate than hdds in some cases
[17:51] <MrELusiveness> even usb sticks do to
[17:51] <MrELusiveness> er too
[17:52] <temp> please guys, I'm still waiting. Does anyone have any information on compiling vhdl codes using ghdl on ubuntu 64 bit. The code looks OK; a basic hello World Program but it does not compile
[17:52] <axgb1234> no, its not a sandforce chipset and it is not OCZ so i dont know
[17:52] <wolverin> ciao
[17:52] <mllie> theadmin: [240047.064814] NTFS-fs error (device sdc1): parse_options(): Unrecognized mount option nofail.
[17:52] <wolverin> !list
[17:52] <ubottu> wolverin: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».
[17:52] <DaBas> uabn93: MrELusiveness: Yep but why is Fedora running like a train and ubuntu as a turtle
[17:52] <compdoc> DaBas, I have 4 OCZ drives. The only problem they have is when the PC sleeps or hibernates. They have released firmware updates for that, but these days I just dont use them in PCs that sleep to be safe
[17:52] <MrELusiveness> probly difffrent driver
[17:52] <theadmin> mllie: Hm, must be specific to some UNIX filesystems. Okay, remove that then
[17:53] <exarkun> I can't seem to install python-pyopencl, http://codepad.org/R4dhmmAE
[17:53] <DaBas> compdoc: Do I need to make attention how to partition the drive ? I have 16GB ram but specifies 4GB of swap in the beginning of the driver, rest is / for data
[17:53] <MrELusiveness> fedora being redhat and ubuntu being debian two diffrent linux distros for sure
[17:53] <mllie> theadmin: what will happen if I try to access /media/usb0 if the disk is removed?
[17:54] <MrELusiveness> DaBas what ver of ubuntu?
[17:54] <uabn93> guess ill come back later
[17:54] <DaBas> 12.04 and 12.10
[17:54] <DaBas> but I prefer 12.04
[17:54] <MrELusiveness> both?
[17:54] <MrELusiveness> did you do a fresh install of 12.04?
[17:54] <compdoc> DaBas, if you allow the OS or gparted to partition, it will be correct. As long as its a current OS. I think Ubuntu 11.10 on up, or windows 7 on up
[17:55] <theadmin> mllie: Well, you'll get an empty folder, but you'll also get a warning on bootup, shouldn't be a big deal, just minor annoyance
[17:55] <MrELusiveness> DaBas ive always thought that a fresh install is better than a upgrade
[17:55] <trash_> hello punx
[17:55] <DaBas> MrELusiveness: yes it is fresh installed
[17:56] <DaBas> both versions
[17:56] <mllie> theadmin: I see!
[17:56] <compdoc> DaBas, be sure to update the ssd drive's fireware
[17:56] <compdoc> firmware
[17:56] <morphias> hello my fello linux fellows
[17:57] <MrELusiveness> well DaBas if you are not sure about the make and what controller this ssd has then that could be a problem
[17:57] <SierraAR> I've got gparted installed and running now on 12.04, curious what the /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 partitions are for (There's about 4GB for each)
[17:57] <MrELusiveness> knowing what your hardware is can be important
[17:57] <DaBas> compdoc: I think they didn't release a firmware upgrade for this SSD ...
[17:58] <compdoc> all OCZ drives have them, as far as I know
[17:58] <MrELusiveness> is there a model # ont he drive?
[17:59] <DaBas> MrELusiveness: Will check it
[17:59] <MrELusiveness> k
[18:00] <Twisty> how can I cut a file to the last 10 lines? outputting tail back to the same file empties the file. can I do this without copying to another file first?
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[18:01] <exarkun> On Quantal, I can't install python-pyopencl.  apt-get complains that "opencl-icd" is uninstallable: <http://codepad.org/R4dhmmAE>.  How do I get opencl-icd?  Or how do I get past that to be able to have a working python-pyopencl?
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[18:01] <mllie> theadmin: well, now when first booting and then insert the hdd. /media/usb0 is still empty?
[18:01] <theadmin> mllie: Oh that's odd.
[18:02] <erictr1ck> man, i really wished we could move the unity launcher to the bottom of the screen. i always like it on the left, but now that i have 2 monitors its pretty annoying.
[18:02] <DaBas> MrELusiveness: On the top of the drive there is no label, but this is the site: http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=CT128V4SSD2
[18:02] <theadmin> mllie: What does "sudo mount /media/usb0" report?
[18:03] <MrELusiveness> nothing on the drive its self?
[18:03] <MrELusiveness> nothing stamped or printed?
[18:03] <mllie> theadmin: now it reads correctly
[18:03] <mllie> theadmin: I got two disks. The other one's folder is still empty tho
[18:04] <MrELusiveness> DaBas if there is nothing to identify the drive on the outside, it could be anything.
[18:04] <MrELusiveness> you could see how fedora see it as far as what the device name or driver its using
[18:04] <invariant> How do I enable pdo_pgsql to work with Apache2 and PHP5?
[18:04] <DaBas> Maybe at the bottom of the drive, but it is currently mounted with screws in the bottom of the case  (antec case) ...
[18:05] <invariant> I don't quite understand why just installing it isn't enough either.
[18:05] <MrELusiveness> DaBas figuring out what that drive is will help
[18:06] <mllie> theadmin: any idea?
[18:06] <DaBas> Ok I will give it a try this evening
[18:06] <QS81> can anyone help me with upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10? I'm getting a held dependency error but there are no broken packages when I scan with synaptic.
[18:06] <theadmin> mllie: Not really :(
[18:06] <DaBas> MrELusiveness: thx for help already
[18:06] <MrELusiveness> np
[18:06] <DaBas> compdoc: Thx for help already
[18:06] <compdoc> good luck
[18:07] <bincp> anyone using ubuntu with openvpn connection?
[18:07] <mllie> escott: maybe you have any idea?
[18:08] <bincp> Iḿ having an issue with connecting to my VPN at home from my laptop here at work. It has all the information, keys and such, I know vpn works as it works fine from MS side.
[18:08] <MrELusiveness> if you have a flash drive that has a hardware write protect enabled with out a switch to turn it off then i think you should hit it very hard with a hammer
[18:09] <c0dr> .
[18:09] <gandhijee_> hello.  are there any EGL libs for ubuntu 10.04
[18:09] <gandhijee_> please do
[18:09] <_Bier> hello i was wondering if there is a way to move the dock to the bottom in ubuntu 12.10 64bit?
[18:09] <gandhijee_> please don't start with ubuntu 10.04 is no longer supported.  i know this already.  i just want to know if there are any EGL libs for ubuntu 10.04
[18:09] <peepsalot> i just upgraded to 12.10 and using cinnamon desktop and i can't lock my screen
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[18:10] <peepsalot> there is a menu item that says lock screen and clicking it does nothing
[18:10] <peepsalot> also it is syupposed to lock when the screen is turned off from being idle, but it wakes up without prompting for a password
[18:10] <MrELusiveness> 12.10 from what i understand is not 100% stable correct me if iam wrong
[18:10] <xangua> peepsalot: cinnamon isn't supported here, try the mint channel
[18:11] <vahnx> is there any way to get back the compiz burn effect in 12.10?
[18:11] <gustav__> What's mint?
[18:11] <MrELusiveness> he probly ment linux mint distro
[18:12] <gustav__> Is it fresh?
[18:12] <gustav__> So it's the same as Ubuntu+
[18:12] <gustav__> ?
[18:12] <gustav__> Do the ops run mint? Or Ubuntu?
[18:12] <MrELusiveness> its just another distro no its not unbuntu
[18:12] <OerHeks> gustav__, no, it is an old gnome2 fork. but gnome is dead.
[18:12] <OerHeks> !mint
[18:12] <ubottu> Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[18:13] <john__> I need to connect to a second computer. Nothing works.. Hel!
[18:13] <invariant> OerHeks, it's not dead when people maintain it.
[18:13] <invariant> OerHeks, it's just that the original people don't support it.
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[18:13] <john__> It is connected with a second ethernet card
[18:14] <bincp> Iḿ having an issue with connecting to my VPN at home from my laptop here at work. It has all the information, keys and such, I know vpn works as it works fine from MS side.
[18:14] <unrar> hi
[18:14] <utu-san> john__: connect both pc to a switch and then use openssh
[18:14] <john__> The first car is fine I am getting no throughput throght the second I installed today
[18:15] <webnet> quick question. anyone know if there is a package i can install for additional webcam drivers that dont come in the release itself?
[18:15] <OerHeks> !ics
[18:15] <ubottu> If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[18:15] <john__> utu-san, I can swich between both with a swith
[18:15] <MrELusiveness> webnet umm generic ones perhaps?
[18:15] <pikaciu> john__ : ifconfig ?
[18:16] <john__> utu-san, I have belkin swich which swiches keyboard, mouse, screen and sound from one machine to the other with  press of a button
[18:17] <webnet> MrELusiveness possibly? im not really sure my Acer aspire webcam hasnt worked since 10.10 but i never really needed it until now since i installed skype. it used to though so im assuming a package was removed that enabled it
[18:17] <utu-san> john__: I'm talking about as network switch, like a router
[18:17] <MrELusiveness> webnet the best you can do is see if its listed in suported hardware
[18:17] <john__> utu-san, it is a unshielede twisted pair
[18:18] <john__> utu-san, shouldn't need a router
[18:18] <MrELusiveness> sometimes a alternate or generic drive can work
[18:18] <MrELusiveness> er driver
[18:19] <MrELusiveness> webnet is this a standalone cam or a notebook cam?
[18:19] <webnet> MrELusiveness i looked for it. my model isnt shown as supported, but the actual hardware webcam is the same as the  AspireOne netbook which IS supported. perhaps i have a hardware error and not a software one :/
[18:19] <webnet> its a notebook cma
[18:19] <webnet> *cam
[18:19] <MrELusiveness> yeah when it comes to notebooks, it can be a pain
[18:20] <MrELusiveness> you would have better luck with a universal usb one
[18:20] <webnet> i fugured as much
[18:20] <webnet> i bought one for my desktop. guess ill just have to transfer it back and forth. lol
[18:20] <MrELusiveness> but looking up hard supprt of the notebook might bring you more info
[18:20] <john__> utu-san, syour comment?
[18:21] <MrELusiveness> my insipre dell notebook reciently got support for its built in wifi now it rocks
[18:21] <john__> utu-san, a web page, something?
[18:21] <john__> utu-san, I have been trying all day and I am still nowhere..
[18:21] <MrELusiveness> acer stuff always scares me
[18:22] <Spr1ng> I've been impressed with the quality of their hardware over recent years.  Also, their customer service is amazing.
[18:22] <v0lksman> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_a_single_drive_system_to_RAID
[18:22] <MrELusiveness> specialy if it says acer on the notebook anywhere :D
[18:22] <v0lksman> following that to convert a system.  Lost at the Grub2 part
[18:22] <v0lksman> do I need to do anything?
[18:22] <v0lksman> insmod mdraid
[18:22] <v0lksman> I thought grub2 was pretty automagic
[18:23] <MrELusiveness> Dude its a dell   yeah that sounds better
[18:23] <MrELusiveness> heh
[18:23] <delac> I always seem to get some terminal output when I log out. Any way to prevent that and just show  the dots?
[18:23] <MrELusiveness> or Dude its a Asus
[18:24] <dtigue> I just got a free Core I7, with an ASUS mother board, and 3 gigs of RAM. I'm so happy
[18:24] <MrELusiveness> that is cool
[18:24] <MrELusiveness> cant beat free
[18:25] <dtigue> MrELusiveness: A customer of ours asked us to recycle the machine cause they didn't want to spend the money to replace the graphics card
[18:26] <MrELusiveness> LOL
[18:26] <_Bier> how do i hide the dock? ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[18:26] <MrELusiveness> i would be like THANK YOU
[18:26] <bazhang> !ot
[18:26] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[18:26] <MrELusiveness> please come again
[18:26] <bazhang> lets get back on topic Please
[18:26] <xangua> _Bier: in the Apearance settings you can set it to hide
[18:27] <_Bier> yeah auto hide, but not completely gone?
[18:27] <dtigue> _Bier: right click on the background and select to change background, then select the 'behavior' tab
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[18:27] <v0lksman> any grub2 love on adding raid support?
[18:28] <_Bier> dtigue: but that only says auto hide, i mean really hide?
[18:28] <dtigue> _Bier: from there you just need to turn on auto hide
[18:28] <_Bier> or is that impossible
[18:28] <MrELusiveness> Vivid I am wondering if the porblems ive been having with ubuntu and wine isnt something that just related to the game i was trying to run. I dont tink my ubuntu install is corrupted or loaded up. is there way to check the health of a ubuntu install?
[18:28] <dtigue> what do you mean "really" hide?\
[18:28] <_Bier> i can put it on really low and that works
[18:28] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, checked the appdb?
[18:29] <MrELusiveness> yeah
[18:29] <dtigue> _Bier: yea also my wife sets the reveal location to the top left hand corner
[18:29] <MrELusiveness> they are behind on patches
[18:29] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org MrELusiveness
[18:29] <MrELusiveness> i know that
[18:29] <bazhang> help in #winehq MrELusiveness
[18:29] <MrELusiveness> what i need to knwo is if there is a way to check the health of a current ubuntu install
[18:30] <MrELusiveness> no not help with wine
[18:30] <MrELusiveness> help with ubuntu
[18:30] <TommehM> Music is refusing to play on every single player I try, it just sticks at 0:00
[18:30] <MrELusiveness> do you have all cdecs installed that are needed?
[18:30] <MrELusiveness> codecs
[18:31] <dtigue> TommehM: what kind of music file are you trying to play, and have you installed the codecs to play it ?
[18:31] <TommehM> I have tried .mp3 and .flac
[18:31] <TommehM> I used to be able to play them.
[18:32] <MrELusiveness> on ubuntu software center TommehM try installing ubuntu restricted extras
[18:32] <TommehM> Okay.
[18:33] <dtigue> TommehM: I bet you need the codecs installed. Try running 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[18:33] <MrELusiveness> or search for codec on there
[18:33] <MrELusiveness> its comes up either way
[18:33] <webnet> MrELusiveness yeah i hear you on Acer stuff. haha i only bought mine cause the price was right $200 because it was a display case model. :D behind glass its whole like but no packaging / manual or win7 recovery CD so i was like cant pass tht up :D
[18:34] <MrELusiveness> right
[18:34] <MrELusiveness> :)
[18:34] <dtigue> TommehM: I'm not sure but you may also need to install non-free-codecs, in a terminal try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras non-free-codecs'
[18:34] <webnet> im really considering one of those System76 Machines Next
[18:34] <webnet> they look super nice :D
[18:34] <dtigue> webnet: System76 has some beautiful machines
[18:35] <webnet> so expensive tho dtigue :X
[18:35] <cloudrf> xeoma wont load
[18:35] <PowerTux> hi, i send 2 printers job, it delayed 10 seconds to start to print each sheet
[18:35] <MrELusiveness> TOmmehM  the ubuntu restricted extras is what I use
[18:35] <dtigue> webnet: unfortunately so, but at least you will be supporting the cause
[18:35] <PowerTux> i notice cupsdSetBusyState: newbusy="Printing jobs and dirty files", busy="Printing jobs and dirty files"
[18:36] <webnet> thats for sure dtigue thats the other reason i like them :)
[18:36] <dtigue> webnet: i work for a computer company so I just always build my own machines out of the inventory room
[18:36] <MrELusiveness> everything iam using is free
[18:36] <MrELusiveness> like it should be
[18:36] <PowerTux> anyone knows what happend ?
[18:36] <webnet> dtigue lucky :D
[18:36] <bazhang> !ot | dtigue webnet
[18:36] <ubottu> dtigue webnet: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[18:36] <TommehM> MrELusiveness, dtigue, Installing "Ubuntu Restricted Extras" has worked, thanks! :>
[18:36] <dtigue> webnet: if i were to buy a prebuilt machine i would go with system76 more than likely
[18:36] <dtigue> TommehM: glad you got it working
[18:36] <webnet> bazhang sorry
[18:36] <MrELusiveness> np TommehM
[18:37] <MrELusiveness> works great on 64bit 12.04 sofar
[18:38] <dtigue> PowerTux: what is exactly the problem? that its taking awhile to print?
[18:39] <MrELusiveness> anyoenhad fun with a ubuntu studio os install yet?
[18:39] <PowerTux> dtigue: its too slow, before that it was mandriva and its fast normal...
[18:40] <PowerTux> dtigue: so i´ve install ubuntu 12.04 and after that its slow
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[18:40] <kanha> angela: hi
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[18:40] <tomahack> Holaaaa
[18:40] <dtigue> PowerTux: what drivers are you using and how is it connected to the machine ?
[18:40] <MrELusiveness> PowerTux is your printer listed as supported?
[18:40] <keithzg> dtigue & webnet: I've inherited an older (original generation) System76 Lemur from my sister . . . at this point if I ever buy another laptop it's almost definitely going to be one of theirs. Even without the painted ubuntu key it's beautiful :)
[18:40] <tomahack> nobody speak spanish??
[18:40] <PowerTux> dtigue: hplip/usb
[18:41] <gpmanrpi> So stupid wubi question. I am running 12.10 on wubi with Windows 8, I am trying to get extended attributes on /.
[18:41] <OerHeks> !es | tomahack
[18:41] <ubottu> tomahack: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[18:41] <dtigue> PowerTux: and what make/model of printer
[18:41] <bkfitz> anyone know how to block a range of ip addresses with ufw
[18:41] <PowerTux> MrELusiveness: i was using mandriva...
[18:41] <MrELusiveness> si wubi a emu?
[18:42] <dtigue> bkfitz: http://www.guyrutenberg.com/2009/11/07/blocking-ip-range-using-ufw/
[18:42] <MrELusiveness> yeah you gotta man up and use ubuntu but make sure the printer is listed as suported hardware
[18:42] <gpmanrpi> wubi is just a way to use windows bootloader and load a file on ntfs partition as a loop device
[18:42] <PowerTux> dtigue: i have 2 models: HP LaserJet 1020, hpcups 3.12.2 and HP LaserJet Professional p1102w, hpcups 3.12.2
[18:42] <MrELusiveness> if you end up using a generic usb driver then your chances of high performance is lowered
[18:42] <PowerTux> dtigue: it was working well on Mandriva 2009...
[18:42] <PowerTux> dtigue: the same printers and machine...
[18:43] <MrELusiveness> but thats a different distro and might have been a different driver
[18:43] <dtigue> PowerTux: but was it the same driver?
[18:43] <dtigue> PowerTux: are you using PostScript drivers, PCL5? or what
[18:43] <PowerTux> dtigue: hum, i dont remember, but i tried with the foomatics too and the same...
[18:44] <arthur_> guys, quick question here. just installed 12.10 not five minutes ago. went to reddit in firefox and there was a prompt that i quickly clicked. now I have a reddit icon on the side and looks like it's also connected to the mail thing up top. how can i get rid of that?
[18:44] <PowerTux> dtigue: PPD file...
[18:44] <MrELusiveness> ubuntu is pretty good with support on most usb devices but if it isnt listed as suported, well you know....
[18:45] <MrELusiveness> what model is the printer Powertux?
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[18:45] <MrELusiveness> i need a model #
[18:45] <dtigue> PowerTux: I would try removing the setup you got now and try setting it up using the PCL5 drivers, also see what the "recommended" driver is when installing it
[18:45] <PowerTux> MrELusiveness:  i have 2 models: HP LaserJet 1020, hpcups 3.12.2 and HP LaserJet Professional p1102w, hpcups 3.12.2
[18:46] <MrELusiveness> so its a hp 1020 then?
[18:46] <MrELusiveness> ill look it up
[18:46] <dtigue> one of them is
[18:46] <MrELusiveness> wich one is it you ened to wkring right?
[18:46] <TJ-> PowerTux: Via the Ubuntu mailing-lists someone reported a very similar problem. Eventually they were pointed to this forums solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1721595
[18:47] <bkfitz> dtigue: so this will allow from what range of ip addreses: sudo ufw allow from 192.168.1.0/24 - 192.168.1.0 to 192.168.1.24?
[18:47] <bkfitz> dtigue: what if I want to ban 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255
[18:47] <keithzg> bkfitz: no, that should allow basically 192.168.1.*
[18:47] <MrELusiveness> Powertux those model #'s apear to be form some older printers
[18:48] <MrELusiveness> er from
[18:48] <vivid> MrELusiveness, they are not behind on patches.  wine is released every two weeks.  wait until the next release
[18:48] <dtigue> arthur_: you still there ?
[18:48] <bkfitz> keithzg: what is the 24?
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[18:48] <dtigue> arthur_: try in the terminal 'sudo apt-get remove unity-webapps-reddit'
[18:49] <arthur_> yep, still here
[18:49] <dtigue> arthur_: ^^ did you try my previous message
[18:49] <arthur_> dtigue: will try that, right now the terminal is doing it's thing for wine
[18:49] <MrELusiveness> iam not seeing drivers pop right up for those printers Powertux
[18:49] <dtigue> arthur_: you can open a tab in the terminal
[18:50] <dtigue> arthur_: unless its installing something using apt
[18:50] <PowerTux> MrELusiveness: have foomatics and hplip etc
[18:50] <MrELusiveness> Vivid i was talking about the current patch of ddo and how the app data base has no info on it yet
[18:50] <arthur_> dtigue: yup, still installing wine
[18:51] <arthur_> and i don't have that good a conneciton
[18:51] <vivid> MrELusiveness, the appdb relies on users to submit data.  ddo is not an extremely popular game, thus its likely nobody has played/submitted information
[18:51] <vivid> however, you can submit test data if you like
[18:51] <MrELusiveness> PowerTux yeah it maybe that you are using well ending up with a diffrent drive other than what would run it better
[18:51] <PowerTux> MrELusiveness: older printers should work well, shouldn´t it ?
[18:51] <llutz> bkfitz: 192.168.1.0/24  = network 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
[18:51] <MrELusiveness> only if they dont stop support of them or go to limited
[18:52] <llutz> bkfitz: its cidr-notation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing
[18:52] <MrELusiveness> OO
[18:52] <PowerTux> i will try PCL5 drivers dtigue, thanks a lot
[18:53] <MrELusiveness> Excuse me Divid???? not popular???  dont be so sure. more peoiple are running it via windows who dont know better :D but anyhow back to ubuntu
[18:53] <bkfitz> llutz: thx
[18:53] <mllie> How do I see if the memory is used by cache or if it actually is used`?
[18:53] <MrELusiveness> my hp j4540 is supported on ubuntu 12.04 LTS no problem
[18:54] <llutz> bkfitz: 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255 would be 192.168.0.0/16
[18:54] <MrELusiveness> and its a all in one printer
[18:54] <bkfitz> llutz: even more helpful .  thx!
[18:54] <WeThePeople> hi, looking to scrape urls using ubuntu, is there a program that can do this?
[18:55] <MrELusiveness> much support for 35xx/36xx series too
[18:55] <SpaceBass> I'm trying to do an apt-get upgrade and keep getting an error that the MD hash for base-files is invalid … or smiler, will paste bin… this is the 3rd time this has happened and always results in needing a fresh install.
[18:55] <SpaceBass> any clever saves?
[18:55] <SpaceBass> error: http://pastebin.ca/2253510
[18:55] <dmd> http://askubuntu.com/questions/219835/use-command-line-to-add-application-to-gnome-classic-panel Can anyone help me with how to add an icon to a gnome-panel, from the command line?
[18:56] <MrELusiveness> Vivid is there a way to test the health of my ubuntu install?
[18:58] <vivid> MrELusiveness, not that i know of....is it doing strange things?
[18:58] <arthur_> well while i'm waiting on this wine install, is the linux steam client still acting up?
[18:58] <vivid> arthur_, working as well as any beta ive ever tested...
[18:58] <MrELusiveness> no just was wondering because i dont think i have it loaded up with junk at all
[18:59] <Evil_Eric> yay samba working and xchat-indicator now to reinstall EVERYTHING hahahahaha!!!!
[18:59] <arthur_> i mean, does it still not allow anyone to log back in?
[18:59] <MrELusiveness> what do you run Vivid for your distro?
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[18:59] <vivid> arthur_, its a closed beta, if you dont have access it wont allow you to log in
[18:59] <bkfitz> llutz: reason I ask is because I'm getting a lot of DOS and other attacks from the Ukraine... so I'm thinking of blocking the entire 31.133 range
[19:00] <vivid> arthur_, or you could search around the internet and maybe find a way around that...
[19:00] <llutz> bkfitz: good luck
[19:00] <MrELusiveness> i sgned up with valve software for a job
[19:00] <MrELusiveness> since i live near them
[19:01] <arthur_> vivid: yeah, there is. but yesterday looks like there was an update and even the beta participants can't log back in... or something
[19:01] <_Bier> i signed up with mcdonalds for a job because i live near them
[19:01] <MrELusiveness> they are bring stuff to ubuntu
[19:01] <vivid> arthur_, im logged in right now.
[19:01] <TJ-> MrELusiveness: "debsums" is used to detect installed package corruption
[19:01] <invariant> Has Java ever been fixed by Oracle?
[19:01] <arthur_> vivid: can't even getto the login screen on my end. oh well...
[19:02] <MrELusiveness> ok how is it implemented TJ-?
[19:02] <vivid> arthur_, well, it is beta and the games available work quite well in wine
[19:02] <invariant> MrELusiveness, did you get hired?
[19:02] <MrELusiveness> just applied today invariant
[19:02] <bkfitz> llutz:  sudo ufw deny from 31.133.0.0/16 game me: ERROR: problem running
[19:03] <TJ-> MrELusiveness: It  compares the MD5 sums of the installed files against those listed in the package manifest
[19:03] <gpmanrpi> wubi
[19:03] <gpmanrpi> whoops sorry
[19:03] <Evil_Eric> replace the 0.0. with *
[19:03] <kloes> hello all! Could you help me figure this out.I want to install ubuntu and I have a specific setup http://pastebin.com/w8a2FQ3a
[19:03] <bkfitz> llutz: got it user error
[19:03] <webnet_> Wethepeople what is the outcome your trying to get?
[19:03] <arthur_> dtigue: hey! the "sudo apt-get remove unity-webapps-reddit" command worked! thanks!
[19:03] <delac> it seems gnome 3.6 makes a "click" sound on login. Any way to change this?
[19:03] <MrELusiveness> ok ok TJ- yeah i was wondering about source stuff thats been installed if perices had been left behind
[19:03] <llutz> bkfitz: sry i don't know anything about ufw
[19:04] <invariant> MrELusiveness, for what did you apply?
[19:04] <WeThePeople> webnet_, i would like to know how many .edu sites are on the net
[19:04] <exarkun> On Quantal, I can't install python-pyopencl.  apt-get complains that "opencl-icd" is uninstallable: <http://codepad.org/R4dhmmAE>.  How do I get opencl-icd?  Or how do I get past that to be able to have a working python-pyopencl?
[19:04] <arthur_> vivid: here's hoping that I can get tf2 to work properly. been tackling random crashes for a week now.
[19:04] <arthur_> thanks againguys for the help!
[19:04] <WeThePeople> webnet_, by scraping the url of the .edu site
[19:04] <vivid> arthur_, make sure your drivers and wine installation are up to date and launch the game with -dxlevel 81
[19:04] <MrELusiveness> invariant level design and of course ubuntu and opensource development and etsting
[19:05] <MrELusiveness> err testing
[19:05] <arthur_> will do.thanks again!
[19:05] <vivid> arthur_, to be fair, the game also crashes on windows
[19:05] <WeThePeople> webnet_, some people mention curl and php
[19:05] <invariant> MrELusiveness, do you do level design with open-source tools?
[19:05] <invariant> MrELusiveness, or just their game modding tools?
[19:06] <webnet_> Hmm wethepeople. So you are trying to make a list or just enumerate them? By the way there are alot and if you intend to find all of them it will likely take quite a long time and alot of processing power
[19:06] <MrELusiveness> had  some years with game map development and server installs and stuff
[19:06] <MrELusiveness> 3d editors
[19:07] <WeThePeople> webnet_, i have those capabilities, just know know of any native running program that can do this
[19:07] <trism> exarkun: bug 1048036 (which is a consequence of bug 763457) though I thought this was worked around before release of quantal, but perhaps not
[19:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1048036 in pyopencl (Ubuntu) "Python OpenCL cannot be installed in 12.10 due to unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048036
[19:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 763457 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu Quantal) "please provide opencl-icd virtual package" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/763457
[19:07] <WeThePeople> webnet_, making a list
[19:07] <webnet_> Oh yeah php could do it. But you would need apache and php on your machine to run the script
[19:08] <webnet_> Give me a minute i think i actually remember something thats able to do that hold on
[19:08] <MrELusiveness> but i want in at ground lvl of the whole ubuntu/linux porting
[19:08] <WeThePeople> webnet_, i dont know php do you know of a program that can do this on linux?
[19:08] <exarkun> trism: :(
[19:08] <MrELusiveness> iam excited
[19:08] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, how is this on topic
[19:08] <MrELusiveness> its about ubuntu
[19:08] <MrELusiveness> and whats to come
[19:08] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, no it s not
[19:09] <MrELusiveness> wait and see i cant wait
[19:09] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, this channel is for Ubuntu tech support ONLY
[19:09] <SierraAR> Is there a way to make those top right corner notification popups appear on every screen when using more than one moniter?
[19:10] <MrELusiveness> well i comented on something at was mentioned here and someone asked me a question .. sorry
[19:10] <bazhang> MrELusiveness, I have asked you to remain on topic several times now. take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:10] <webnet_> Php can run on anything with the php server installed. Linux exclusivly id imagin a bash script could easily do it. But like i said hold on because i think i know of a software toolkit that could do if. I just dont remember the name
[19:11] <TJ-> WeThePeople: I suggest you email edcause, the registrar for .edu, they'll be able to tell you how many primary registrations there are
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[19:12] <WeThePeople> tj-, did that, they have a contractwith the Department of such and such that prohibits that.
[19:13] <TJ-> WeThePeople: OK, that's a pain. Wikipedia may be more help for you then, in part it says "...more than 7,000 but less than 8,000 names registered at any given time..."
[19:14] <WeThePeople> tj-, yeah cool, i would like to know the names as well
[19:15] <Pici> I don't see how this has anything to do with Ubuntu.
[19:15] <WeThePeople> pici, yeah offtopic sry
[19:16] <WeThePeople> pls pm me if anybody would like to talk to me
[19:17] <WeThePeople> webnet_, pls PM me instead
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[19:18] <gdanko> hey guys. i have a weird situation with 12.04 and unity. the firefox icon in the launcher will force itself to the front every time i click a window. and i noticed the small dots to the left of the launcher icon that show how many app windows i have change from white to light blue.
[19:18] <gdanko> has anyone else seen this?
[19:19] <HeavyWater> I think blue dot's indicate how many browsers you have open
[19:19] <HeavyWater> blue meaning active?
[19:19] <HeavyWater> i could be wrong though
[19:19] <vivid> the blue arrows generally mean there's a message or some notification
[19:20] <gdanko> HeavyWater: So I have 2 terminal windows open. I have two white dots to the left of the icon.
[19:20] <gdanko> well firefox keeps forcing itself to the front.
[19:22] <gdanko> this is FF 16.0.2
[19:22] <webnet> WeThePeople i cant find what i was thinnking of
[19:23] <WeThePeople> webnet_, ok thankyou for the assitsance
[19:25] <webnet> WeThePeople but i think a bash script would do it. its just very impractical to do it like this. youd have to start with 3 characters and randomly go throught every combonation of letters and numbers and onces every combonation has been made add another character so 4 characters and randomly do a ping to each if itt gets a response then pipe it into a list file. but this would take a very very very long time
[19:26] <webnet> WeThePeople if you dont mind my asking why are you doing this. there may be a better way
[19:26] <WeThePeople> webnet_, may i pm you
[19:27] <webnet> WeThePeople go for it
[19:28] <TheArc> question
[19:28] <TheArc> how do i close the defualt luancher menu in ubuntu 12
[19:29] <MrELusiveness> TheArc under desktop settings you can have it auto hide
[19:29] <TheArc> i mean close it... i have another launcher
[19:29] <MrELusiveness> i think thats what it was
[19:30] <grungekid> Hi guys. I'm wondering if this is the right channel to ask for technical support about ubuntu on my macbook pro 9.2?
[19:30] <MrELusiveness> that would probably be something along the lines of redesigning?
[19:30] <SierraAR> grungekid, I believe so, I've been poking people here with my own questions myself
[19:30] <TheArc> lol
[19:30] <SierraAR> Is there a way to make those top right corner notification popups appear on every screen when using more than one moniter?
[19:30] <MrELusiveness> i dont think i saw that option in the standard install
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[19:31] <TheArc> the "dash home bar"
[19:31] <TheArc>  i just want to kill that task
[19:31] <MrELusiveness> there is a ubuntu distro for powerpc macs
[19:32] <grungekid> I'm having a strange problem with my wireless. I install the firmware and use b43-cutter to get it running. It works fine for about 10 minutes then the connection just seems to freeze up. I have to basically disconnect from the connection and connect again to get it working
[19:32] <webnet> anyone know how to get the  gnome panels to not show up on 10.10? ive tried removing the panels key grom gconf but it has no effect
[19:32] <MrELusiveness> but it was ubuntu 10.10
[19:32] <gino> ciao
[19:33] <gino> list
[19:33] <TheArc> ahh its called Unity
[19:33] <CrazyZurfer> hey?
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[19:34] <CrazyZurfer> i've got a problem with the wifi!
[19:35] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, i know you can use SCREEN for this, but i also remember hearing of a commandline switch. Does anyone know how to start vboxheadless without it taking up a terminal screen, like run it in the background
[19:35] <CrazyZurfer> at my university, there are 2 networks, one for guests (ultra slow) and other one for students (actually good speed). The authentication of the students network is with username and password. The problem here is that when I try to connect it asks me for a CA Certificate
[19:35] <CrazyZurfer> in Windows, it doesn't ask anything
[19:38] <CrazyZurfer> any idea of what it going on?
[19:40] <ariesam> hi!
[19:41] <gnubie> from ubuntu forum:
[19:41] <gnubie>  
[19:41] <gnubie> Join Date: Sep 2011
[19:41] <gnubie> Beans: 10
[19:41] <gnubie> 	
[19:41] <gnubie> Re: CA certificate
[19:41] <gnubie> Okay so I talked to a guy on campus who knew ubuntu and all I needed to do was get the CA certificate from the school and make sure my anonymous name was the same as my user name.
[19:41] <FloodBot1> gnubie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[19:41] <mint_> Hi All, I get an error when I try and and access an encrypted hard disk.  the partition mounts fine, but...
[19:42] <walterwoj1> How can I stop the transmission daemon from throwing a 403 error when I try to login using transmission gui? (I already put * in the whitlist and then disabled the whitlist altogether but it still blocks me)
[19:42] <mint_> ...when I click on "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop" I get the following error...
[19:42] <mint_> ...The error is: "There was an error launching the application.
[19:42] <mint_> Details:  Failed to execute child process "xterm" (no such file or directory)"
[19:49] <maxiaojun> bcm4311, b43 firmware, 12.04 64bit, wifi (wpa2) being much less stable than os x, any idea?
[19:51] <centran> not sure if this is a general ubuntu problem or related to kubuntu which I am on but I upgraded to 12.10 and now get a blank/black screen after the splash screen
[19:51] <centran> any ideas what might be wrong?
[19:55] <uabn93> does anyone know how to troubleshoot installation problems? the installer keeps crashing on me
[19:58] <maxiaojun> what's your graphic chip(s) ?
[19:58] <_r00t_> The time has come to upgrade :( On the hunt for a gnome2/lxde with compositing desktop environment for 12.04.... Any suggestions ?
[19:59] <jesustoner> hi, i need some help with usb ports!
[19:59] <jesustoner> anybody?
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[20:00] <dupa> 22/tcp                     ALLOW       192.168.0.0/24 (log-all)
[20:00] <_r00t_> 11.04 : I'm no longer supported
[20:00] <dupa> how write this rule in ufw when do config?
[20:00] <maxiaojun> jesustoner: hat's wrong
[20:00] <dupa> 22/tcp                     ALLOW       192.168.0.0/24 (log-all) -- 22/tcp                     ALLOW       192.168.0.0/24 (log-all)
[20:00] <dupa> 22/tcp                     ALLOW       192.168.0.0/24 (log-all) how write this rule in ufw when do config?
[20:01] <maxiaojun> _r00t_: eye candies are not supported by definition...
[20:01] <jesustoner> i insert a pendrive but ubuntu does not recognize it...
[20:01] <maxiaojun> what does dmesg say?
[20:01] <_r00t_> maxiaojun: :(
[20:02] <jesustoner> it does not say anything, or does anything at all
[20:02] <jesustoner> I am just starting with ubuntu
[20:02] <centran> unplug it then plug it back in and type dmesg in console
[20:02] <centran> tell us what the last lines say
[20:03] <maxiaojun> last few lines
[20:03] <invariant> I get the following error message (I am not using any custom components): PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626/pdo_pgsql.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20090626/pdo_pgsql.so: undefined symbol: pdo_parse_params in Unknown on line 0
[20:03] <jesustoner> last few lines from what exactly?
[20:03] <centran> when you type dmesg into a terminal window
[20:03] <jesustoner> ok
[20:04] <centran> if you just plugged it in then the last couple lines should show the kernel trying to load it
[20:04] <jesustoner> usb 1-3: USB disconnect, device number 3
[20:04] <_r00t_> invariant: I know the answer to that and so do the ppl on #Apache ;)
[20:05] <invariant> _r00t_, I asked here, because this is an Ubuntu package.
[20:05] <centran> that is the last line jesustoner?
[20:05] <invariant> _r00t_, can you please tell me?
[20:05] <jesustoner> ok, when plugged, it says: Attached SCSI removable disk
[20:05] <invariant> _r00t_, the bug tracking system doesn't contain this exact same message.
[20:05] <jesustoner> sorry, it was not connected before
[20:06] <jesustoner> i assumed it is attached, where can i find it?
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[20:07] <_r00t_> invariant: find /usr/lib/php5/ -name "*.so"
[20:08] <invariant> _r00t_, /usr/lib/php5/20090626/pdo_pgsql.so and /usr/lib/php5/20090626/pgsql.so exist and a bunch of others.
[20:09] <jesustoner> it says: Attached SCSI removable disk
[20:09] <nima__> hey
[20:10] <nima__> ANy mods or pros?
[20:10] <bekks> nima__: why?
[20:10] <nima__> i have a problem
[20:10] <Razer_> I have a custom keyboard shortcut (Keyboard settings and Shortcuts tab) to launch Nautilus when I press Super+E, but for some reason it isn't working anymore. Any idea why?
[20:10] <katsune> hey guys first time here in ubuntu irc,.
[20:10] <bekks> !ask | nima__
[20:10] <ubottu> nima__: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[20:11] <Razer_> !patience
[20:11] <ubottu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[20:11] <invariant> _r00t_, what is this
[20:11] <invariant> _r00t_, solution you were talking about?
[20:11] <invariant> _r00t_, because I haven'
[20:12] <nima__> i've just downloaded iso file of 12.1 and i have 11.1 version of ubuntu i wanna no how can upgrade with an  iso file?
[20:12] <invariant> _r00t_, t seen anything yet.
[20:12] <_r00t_> invariant: did you google ?
[20:12] <v0lksman> nima__: no
[20:12] <_r00t_> invariant: http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2012-05/msg11281.html
[20:12] <invariant> _r00t_, that is a different problem.
[20:12] <Razer_> Nevermind. I just reset the key combination and it seems to work now.
[20:12] <invariant> _r00t_, you shouldn't judge so fast.
[20:12] <_r00t_> invariant: is it ?
[20:12] <invariant> _r00t_, YES
[20:12] <almoxarife> _r00t_:  if you dont have an answer dont tell someone to google it, you made it clear had an answer!
[20:13] <_r00t_> invariant: have you tried it ? did you do an ld on the .so ?
[20:13] <invariant> _r00t_, I hope you learned not to waste the time of people with playing guess games.
[20:14] <_r00t_> forget it then.... sorry I don't know
[20:14]  * _r00t_ doesn't have the faintest idea :)
[20:14] <centran> anyone know why I would have a blank/black screen after the splash screen after upgrading to 12.10?
[20:14] <DJones> !nomodeset | centran
[20:14] <ubottu> centran: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter
[20:15] <DJones> centran: That link might help you solve it
[20:15] <centran> ubottu: allready tried nomodeset
[20:15] <ubottu> centran: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[20:15] <invariant> _r00t_, ldd output is normal. I do find it inconvenient that the .so has been stripped.
[20:15] <centran> lol
[20:15] <almoxarife> centran: try this, control-al-f8 followed by control-alt-f7, does it return the graphics?
[20:16] <_r00t_> invariant: let me check.... pastebin yours in the meantime
[20:16] <centran> nope
[20:16] <katsune> anyone here experienced any muffled sound in 12.10 ?
[20:17] <oopsigotroot> Hey all.  I'm trying to perform a benchmark using iozone, then plot results using gnuplot (using /usr/share/doc/iozone3/examples/Generate_Graphs script).  I get this error: '"gnu3d.dem", line 33: All points x value undefined'.  Googled around and found out that the latest gnuplot doesn't support certain legacy expressions like in .dem file, but I can't find a (working) solution. The .dem file is same as on the iozone.org site, a
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[20:17] <invariant> _r00t_, http://paste.kde.org/611558/
[20:20] <almoxarife> centran: can you pastebin /var/log/syslog ?
[20:21] <_r00t_> invariant: nm -D !$
[20:21] <invariant> _r00t_, U pdo_parse_params
[20:22] <GrkN> selam
[20:23] <v0lksman> can some one please help me with the Grub2 section of this:  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_a_single_drive_system_to_RAID
[20:23] <v0lksman> not sure what it's telling me I need to do
[20:23] <invariant> _r00t_, is that what you wanted to know?
[20:23] <centran> almoxarife: I am stuck usering terminal/console so I don't think I can pastebin it
[20:24] <centran> is there something in particular I should be looking for
[20:24] <_r00t_> invariant: can't be right no bind ?
[20:25] <almoxarife> centran: in terminal, sudo apt-get install pastebinit , then, sudo pastebinit /var/log/syslog , then share the link to the pastebin
[20:25] <invariant> _r00t_, that's why it's a problem.
[20:26] <_r00t_> invariant: I'm telling you dude. Purge and reinstall it
[20:26] <invariant> _r00t_,
[20:26] <invariant> _r00t_, it being?
[20:26] <invariant> _r00t_, just this particular package or all of php?
[20:27] <_r00t_> invariant: where's that post I first linked to ;)
[20:27] <gustav__> I'm seeing a lot of scanning on port 22. UFW is blocking. Should I be worried?
[20:27] <nima__> tnx:D
[20:28] <centran> paste.ubuntu.com/1373294/
[20:28] <v0lksman> why would I get a seg fault when trying to grub-install /dev/md0
[20:28] <v0lksman> ?
[20:28] <almoxarife> gustav__: someone is sniffing your ssh connection, you need to decide how worried to be
[20:28] <gustav__> almoxarife: How?
[20:28] <Pici> almoxarife: you mean probing.
[20:28] <almoxarife> Pici: that too
[20:29] <gustav__> How can they sniff? O_O
[20:29] <Pici> gustav__: they can't.
[20:29] <Pici> gustav__: I wouldn't worry about it.  You may want to install something like fail2ban though.
[20:29] <erle-> how do i get into grub menu if it doesnt show up itself?
[20:30] <almoxarife> Pici: they cant what?
[20:30] <gustav__> Pici: Will that work with ufw? Can't ufw ban automatically? But, they're kinda already banned though... with ufw.
[20:30] <OerHeks> erle-, hold shift @ boot
[20:30] <Pici> almoxarife: sniffing means that someone is intercepting information being sent/recieved over port 22.
[20:30] <erle-> thx
[20:31] <invariant> _r00t_, I think it is solved now.
[20:31] <invariant> _r00t_, checking...
[20:31] <gustav__> Should I go to the Police?
[20:31] <cdavis> Frequenty my sound doesn't work and a restart of pulseaudio doesn't fix it. Can someone tell me a place to look? (nothing in syslog)
[20:32] <Pici> gustav__: fail2ban works by examining system logs rather than the connections themselves.  It temporarily bans people why fail to login to ssh after a small number of tries (like 5)
[20:32] <almoxarife> Pici: you call it probe, i call it sniff, so do others, http://lifehacker.com/5853483/a-guide-to-sniffing-out-passwords-and-cookies-and-how-to-protect-yourself-against-it , thnks
[20:33] <Pici> almoxarife: Either you or I misunderstand what gustav__ was describing.
[20:33] <_r00t_> invariant: installed correctly now in lfs ?
[20:33] <almoxarife> gustav__: what would the police do if the probe/sniff is coming from the other side of the world?
[20:33] <Pici> gustav__: The police?  I doubt its targeting towards you specifically.
[20:33] <invariant> _r00t_, lfs?
[20:33] <gustav__> Pici: I am seeming attempts against my host.
[20:34] <invariant> _r00t_, I am not using lfs. This is just a dependency specification problem.
[20:34] <Pici> gustav__: so does every other computer connected to the internet.
[20:34] <invariant> _r00t_, it's a bug in Ubuntu.
[20:34] <gustav__> Pici: That doesn't make it less specific.
[20:34] <gustav__> The Police are not in charge my individual safety, either.
[20:34] <gustav__> Who is, in this case, then?
[20:35] <gustav__> You're clearly not helping.
[20:35] <_r00t_> invariant: nope.... how did you install it in the first place ?
[20:36] <almoxarife> gustav__: ufw does allow you to pick what ips connect to port 22 and which do not, so, decide which can, the rest wont connect
[20:36] <invariant> _r00t_, yes, because I was using the version of php suitable for some preforking version of Apache.
[20:36] <Pici> gustav__: Excuse me? You're free to do whatever you want about this. I'm just telling you that failed ssh logins from random addresses is by no means an indication that someone is targetting you.  Infected hosts do these sorts of things all the time.  If you want to report it to someone, the honeypot project that the internet storm center has things that will allow you to report troublesome IPs
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[20:37] <_r00t_> invariant: so you didn't install php5-pgsql
[20:37] <invariant> _r00t_, it should simply make it impossible to configure it wrong.
[20:37] <invariant> _r00t_, I did install that.
[20:37] <almoxarife> gustav__: this is not a public safety forum or help line, if your fear something then call the police
[20:38]  * v0lksman shakes head
[20:38] <gustav__> So many different IPs but the same MAC.
[20:38] <_r00t_> invariant: your distro and php version
[20:39] <invariant> _r00t_, precise and whatever php is distributed with precise.
[20:39] <D_Russ> hello all!
[20:39] <_r00t_> invariant: that's rubbish as the modules are not installed in that directory
[20:39] <gustav__> My IP address must have ended up in some attacker's list.
[20:39] <D_Russ> i am having problems with ubuntu 12.04 and my canon printer not working properly
[20:39] <D_Russ> anyone know of a solution
[20:39] <invariant> _r00t_, if that's the case, then perhaps I have a problem.
[20:39] <centran> did you see if canon had drivers?
[20:40] <invariant> _r00t_, let me see
[20:40] <D_Russ> centran: no drivers avilable from canon
[20:40] <invariant> _r00t_, I had libapache2-mod-php5 installed.
[20:40] <gustav__> 00:24:17:6e:28:9e:08:00 <- Bad boy.
[20:40] <_r00t_> invariant: if you did any pear or phpize magic then I'm sure you've screwed it :)
[20:40] <cdavis> gustav__: that doesn't appear valid
[20:40] <invariant> _r00t_, I did nothing like that.
[20:41] <gustav__> cdavis: Why?
[20:41] <D_Russ> it worked just fine for a while but some of the updates to ubuntu must have broken something
[20:41] <D_Russ> now its impossible to get it to print
[20:41] <D_Russ> very frustrating
[20:42] <_r00t_> invariant: awww man my bad..... sorry about that
[20:42] <cdavis> gustav__: HWaddress is usually 12 hex characters
[20:42] <ubuntu__> using xfce with ubuntu studio, what do i use to burn an iso image?
[20:42] <invariant> _r00t_, do you maintain php?
[20:42] <_r00t_> invariant: nope I'm a noob .... just trying to help
[20:43] <bekks> ubuntu__: k3b - best choice IMHO
[20:43] <OptiWork> ?
[20:43] <OptiWork> _r00t_???
[20:43] <ubuntu__> kb3 kk thank you
[20:43] <D_Russ> anyone know anything about getting this damn canon printer to work?
[20:43] <_r00t_> OptiWork: LOL :)
[20:43] <cdavis> gustav__: paste whatever you are looking at into pastebin and I will look at it
[20:43] <OptiWork> _r00t_: WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?!?!
[20:43]  * OptiWork misses his buddy :/
[20:44] <_r00t_> OptiWork: looking for answers and a new desktop .... came here and ended up digging my own grave with php
[20:44] <gustav__> cdavis: http://pastebin.com/6XP2niGC
[20:44] <_r00t_> lol
[20:44] <OptiWork> _r00t_: shaf you have to come back to the community we miss ya
[20:44]  * _r00t_ hugs opticlove 
[20:44] <almoxarife> centran: you have both lightdm and kdm installed? and they are both crashing
[20:45] <OptiWork> _r00t_: at least pop on mumble from time to time
[20:45] <_r00t_> ewwww hugs OptiWork instead
[20:45] <gustav__> ew ra mag
[20:45] <_r00t_> OptiWork: Will do this week
[20:45] <OptiWork> _r00t_: cool
[20:45] <vooze> Anyone having experience with headset/microphone on Ubuntu? When I test mine in skype, I can see in gnone-soundoptions it automatically turns up the volume, resulting in poor quality :/ Anyone tryed this?
[20:46] <_r00t_> OptiWork: I have a new windows machine ! LOL
[20:46] <OptiWork> _r00t_: Win8?
[20:46] <walterwoj1> How can I set a folder to have certain permissions regardless of who created the files in it (I want 777)?
[20:46] <gustav__> _r00t_: WinRAR?
[20:46] <centran> almoxarife I believe they switched to lightdm correct so I should uninstall kdm
[20:46] <Pici> gustav__: are you sure that isn't your mac address?
[20:47] <cdavis> Pici, gustav__ It is his routers MAC
[20:47] <almoxarife> centran: you are running kde, yes?
[20:47] <gustav__> Pici: A part is.
[20:47] <centran> yes
[20:47] <_r00t_> OptiWork: Yep .... you know me windows on the outside,,, linux core inside LOL
[20:47] <Pici> cdavis: that makes more sense.
[20:47] <almoxarife> centran: purge both lightdm and kdm, re-install kdm
[20:47] <maxiaojun> Windows support KDE
[20:48] <walterwoj1> dr_
[20:48] <_r00t_> OptiWork: what you running these days ? I'm still with 11.04 with no where to turn to :(
[20:48] <mendoza> I have an issue when I attempted to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10. After reboot during upgrade, upgrade hung during a low-res black with yellow loading dots screen. I rebooted, and get either standard purple loading screen followed by a terminal or the black with yellow dots screen.
[20:48] <OptiWork> _r00t_: I know ;)  ubuntu 12.04 atm on my work desktop and laptop, Arch on the home box.
[20:48] <almoxarife> centran: in terminal, sudo apt-get purge lightdm kdm && sudo apt-get install kdm
[20:49] <_r00t_> OptiWork: Yeah I want 12.04 but dont know what desktop to go for... So thought I'd ask here
[20:49] <maxiaojun> _r00t_: use Unity
[20:49] <OptiWork> _r00t_: http://screencloud.net/v/k6rG
[20:49] <Greek-Boy> someone please help. I am trying to install intel graphics drivers on knoppix using these drivers http://daily.siebler.eu/2012/06/ubuntu-12-04-driver-for-intel-cedarview-atom-n2000-und-d2000-serie/ but i can't even get apt-get to update from that repository
[20:49] <_r00t_> maxiaojun: a hundred kittys just died when you said that :(
[20:50] <OptiWork> Unity isn't too bad when you get the hang of it
[20:50] <Pici> Greek-Boy: This is Ubuntu support, not knoppix.
[20:50] <OptiWork> but I do still like my xfce as well
[20:51] <OptiWork> isn't knoppix a live CD?  don't tell me you're trying to run it as a desktop
[20:51] <maxiaojun> _r00t_: people asking which is best generally unhappy with any of them
[20:52] <OptiWork> Greek-Boy: you can check the /etc/apt/sources.list and see if you can add it, but really knoppix is a live environment, not meant for everyday use.
[20:52] <cdavis> OptiWork: you can install Knoppix to a HD and use it like any other distribution
[20:52]  * OptiWork has now handed out his advice for the day.
[20:52] <_r00t_> invariant: you still hanging in there ?
[20:52] <gustav__> Unity is about as efficient as Tiles.
[20:52] <Pici> It still doesn't have anything to do with Ubuntu.
[20:52] <Pici> !offtopic
[20:52] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[20:53] <invariant> _r00t_, yes
[20:53] <almoxarife> take the knopix chat to ???
[20:53] <cdavis> That I agree with
[20:53] <invariant> _r00t_, you can see by the fact that your tab completion works :)
[20:53] <cdavis> Possibly #knoppix
[20:56] <pranavk_> How do i get to know who is copying what from me in /var/log/samba/ using samba logs .
[20:56] <invariant> _r00t_, in fact, the problem has not been solved :/
[20:56] <mendoza> I have an issue when I attempted to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10. After reboot during upgrade, upgrade hung during a low-res black with yellow loading dots screen. I rebooted, and get either standard purple loading screen followed by a terminal or the black with yellow dots screen.
[20:57] <Clair> Hi.  This is my third harddrive and my third time running completely fresh install of ubuntu with next to no extras.  First 12.04 and then 12.10 both server editions.  Each time, within a few days I get hit with a Filystem read only error and it stops working.  Why?  Is there anyway to fix this?
[20:57] <mendoza> Any ideas?
[20:57] <pranavk_> samba logs just gives me who is visiting which of my shared directories but can't tell who is copying what from me, is there any way to get this from samba logs
[20:57] <pranavk_> ?
[20:57] <_r00t_> OptiWork: Still hanging with this :( http://screencloud.net/v/EJmm
[20:57] <blackness> Clair, i think your Drive Controller on your device is going bad..
[20:57] <gustav__> pranavk: Wireshark.
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[20:57] <OptiWork> Clair: maybe other issue, hard drive controller or motherboard or ram?
[20:58] <pranavk_> gustav__: so means , samba logs are not enough to tell me this ?
[20:58] <Clair> I've done multiple system scans and have come up with no issues
[20:58] <gustav__> pranavk: Stare at them for an hour, if that doesn't help: Wireshark.
[20:58] <OptiWork> Clair: memtest?
[20:58] <OptiWork> _r00t_: you need a change :)
[20:58] <pranavk_> gustav__: okay, thanks
[20:58] <maxiaojun> _root_: have you contacted with GNOME upstream?
[20:59] <Clair> Memtest, DFT, Seagate Tools, built in motherboard health check, the whole lot of scans, all come back clean
[20:59] <katsune> blackness, drive controller meaning what? the chipset that controls the sata interfaces?
[20:59] <blackness> memtest wont test a drive, or the motherboard..and i dont see how memory can cause a drive to fail..clair is this I/O errors?
[20:59] <_r00t_> invariant: dpkg -l | grep php5 ..... let's see what you've got and you're sure that /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d ini files reference the correct shared objects
[20:59] <blackness> katsune, yes, that could be shorted out.
[21:00] <_r00t_> OptiWork: tell me about it :/ But it works and works very well .... unfortunately dated
[21:00] <blackness> IF the motherboard isnt mounted properly that can cause failure..as in not screwed down all the way..or a footer in the wrong place.
[21:00] <katsune> then it's a  motheboard problem,
[21:00] <katsune> I would say get some drive diagnostic tool to see if all drive sector is still consistent
[21:00] <blackness> which there is no software to test it..best suggestion is, install the drives in another machine and see if they fail there awell.
[21:01] <katsune> I believe seagate has a free one and can be use in other brand of drives
[21:01] <gustav__> Put it on USB and use Wireshark.
[21:01] <Pici> !who
[21:01] <ubottu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[21:01] <maxiaojun> _root_: if you ever contacted GNOME upstream, you should notice that Unity already blocked some arbitrary breakage from GNOME
[21:01] <invariant> _r00t_, http://paste.kde.org/611564/
[21:01] <blackness> katsune, Clair shouldnt test hardware if they suspect mboard failure.
[21:01] <maxiaojun> for example this one: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=684210
[21:01] <ubottu> Gnome bug 684210 in Region & Language ""Separate layout per window" is missing" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[21:02] <katsune> blackness, why not? i think it's not bad to run diagnostic tools,.
[21:02] <Clair> The motherboard is mounted properly, I checked all the hardware, and the bios has a utility to test it's self for issues and I ran that as well.  The system works absolutely fine for days with no signs of failure then it will just shoot this error and stop.  Is it related to this?
[21:02] <blackness> if the motherboard is faulting, the software will fault for the drive test..
[21:03] <Clair> sorry about that I had a link queued up for the end.  There was a bug report about this
[21:03] <_r00t_> invariant: I had problems with filter and used libapache2-mod-php5
[21:03] <blackness> Clair, have you tested these drives in another machine?
[21:03] <gustav__> How can I detect an illegal entry on Apache 2?
[21:03] <blackness> gustav__, Illegal entry?
[21:03] <Clair> I do not have a machine to test them in.  They were 3 brandnew just shipped drives though and they all fail the same way.  I cant believe it is the drives
[21:04] <walterwoj1> How can I set a folder to have certain permissions regardless of who created the files in it (I want 777)?
[21:04] <blackness> Are the lot numbers on the drive matching Clair ?
[21:04] <gustav__> blackness: Foreign code executed on my machine, for instance.
[21:04] <gustav__> Maybe I can filter for binary data some way... HTTP requests aren't supposed to contain that.
[21:04] <blackness> uhm, i dont know of a way..other then to increase the debug log and check for "suspect" POST or GET's
[21:04] <katsune> Clair, how about installing another distro not related to ubuntu?
[21:04] <gustav__> But I don't know how to filter.
[21:05] <Clair> the drives are from three diffrent companies, seagate, hatachi and western digital
[21:05] <gustav__> blackness: I'd have to make Apache 2 instruct ufw to block those associated IPs, too.
[21:05] <_r00t_> invariant: I'm using this ppa for the latest version of php https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5 (5.4 instead of the default 5.3)
[21:05] <D_Russ> can anyone please help me with my canon printer issues
[21:06] <invariant> _r00t_, does that also have the pg modules that I need?
[21:06] <D_Russ> i am going to dropkick this damn printer
[21:06] <_r00t_> invariant: yes
[21:06] <gustav__> But blocking IPs is ot always good... many things are on EC2/cloud and you don't want to block ok IPs... if they become ok.
[21:06] <gustav__> "not"
[21:06] <Clair> the server is up and running fine now, but it will happen again
[21:06] <invariant> _r00t_, I thought 12.04 was supposed to be a stable version. What's the point if something as fundamental as a database doesn't work?
[21:06] <_r00t_> invariant: but I wound seriously post your pgsql.ini first
[21:07] <OptiWork> Clair: size of drives and are you using MBR?
[21:07] <invariant> _r00t_, it's the default.
[21:07] <invariant> _r00t_, I modified nothing about it.
[21:07] <gustav__> One server could have captcha, when ok, enable allow for that IP address. That would make it safe.
[21:07] <gustav__> At least for automated attacks.
[21:07] <gustav__> IPs should be associated with a street address. That would be most good.
[21:08] <_r00t_> invariant: and it has the correct zend_extension =
[21:08] <blackness> gustav__, if you're worried about intruders, just setup sshguard.
[21:08] <Pici> gustav__: you're straying offtopic again.  If you're looking for best-practice ideas for your network, this isn't the place to ask about them.
[21:08] <_r00t_> path
[21:08] <blackness> it will block anyone who hammers your ports gustav__
[21:08] <gustav__> Pici: What's the topic?
[21:08] <invariant> _r00t_, I haven't modified anything except for php5.ini where I added extension=pdo_pgsql.so (or something like that)
[21:08] <aezx> sshguard is beatable....
[21:08] <Pici> gustav__: Ubuntu Tech Support.
[21:08] <gustav__> blackness: The port is not open.
[21:09] <blackness> then i wouldnt worry about it.
[21:09] <gustav__> Pici: How would you categories my issue?
[21:09] <gustav__> categorize
[21:09] <embrik> j #edubuntu
[21:09] <blackness> aezx, ive never had someone beat my sshguard, then again i only allow like 8 ranges incoming on ssh
[21:09] <almoxarife> gustav__: your fireawall issues are not on topic!
[21:10] <gustav__> almoxarife: I am running Ubuntu. And isn't this support?
[21:10] <aezx> blackness, i doubt you have anything worth coming after, nobody wants botnets of ubuntu machines
[21:10] <Pici> gustav__: Network Paranoia.  But seriously, you've been given a few options, but you seem to think that even with the solutions that Ubuntu has that you're in danger of being hacked.  I don't think that constitutes a support topic.
[21:10] <almoxarife> gustav__: your personal take on security is not on topic
[21:10] <Clair> Ok new question.  How do I stop ubuntu from remounting root read-only on FS errors?
[21:10] <gustav__> Stop with the ad hominem. Yeesh.
[21:11] <madjoe> Does anybody know something about ICC Profiles? I'd like to know where to get an appropriate ICC Profile for my Toshiba netbook (12.04 LTS). My current color scheme is pale and not vivid at all, since I don't use any ICC Profile.
[21:11] <blackness> aezx, everyone needs scanner hosts, and cable lines are PERFECT for that. and aezx. i run a hackable OpenVZ container, and i just had someone root that just the other night..i ended up stealing 4MB of their scripts, code, binaries and all that to report.
[21:11] <almoxarife> gustav__: and your endless blather is getting really old, take it somewhere where you can get an audience
[21:11] <_r00t_> invariant: hold up
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[21:11] <aezx> didnt read
[21:11] <blackness> Clair, you dont.
[21:11] <gustav__> !ops almoxarife
[21:11] <blackness> or change the settings in fstab
[21:11] <Clair> There is no way what so ever?
[21:11] <Pici> gustav__: if you're looking for a discussion of network security practices, ##security would be more on-topic.
[21:11] <Pici> almoxarife: that wasn't nice.
[21:11] <Clair> change the setting in fstab you say?
[21:11] <almoxarife> Pici: true, it was not
[21:12] <blackness> yes..moment Clair
[21:12] <Pici> gustav__: you've been speaking to an op this entire time, believe me, we're here.
[21:12] <blackness> remove errors=remount-ro
[21:12] <blackness> i dont suggest this Clair ^
[21:13] <gustav__> Pici: Figures why nothing is done about all of these personal attacks, and now I mean the support discourse.
[21:13] <blackness> gustav__, i believe Pici is a ircOP aswell.
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[21:14] <Clair> I do not have much of a choice.  My server runs harddrive intensive stuff and the software is terrible and likes to open and delete actively used files.  Ubuntu needs to not through a fit about it.  Thank you for your help.
[21:14] <Pici> gustav__: Not everything needs to result in a kick. Anyway, I think you'll get a better discussion of your options through a non-distro specific method.
[21:14] <blackness> Well thats why they are failing Clair , if you abuse a harddrive you can expect it to fail.
[21:15] <gauche> How do I combine ubuntu's ease with my Wifi with Slackware's efficiency?
[21:15] <_r00t_> invariant: seriously the symbols in your .so are incomplete - I installed it and it worked - you did try the reinstall right ?
[21:15] <invariant> _r00t_, yes
[21:15] <bdi_> Hello. If i insert a HDD in computer A with one hardware configuration, and install ubuntu, and later take that hdd with the ubuntu installation and insert it in another computer with a different hardware configuration, will the installation then work and also will it be altered? Is there a possibility that the installation will be corrupted?
[21:16] <invariant> _r00t_, you installed it from that ppa, didn't you?
[21:16] <_r00t_> invariant: nope on a fresh 12.04 base
[21:16] <blackness> bdi_, thats possible..aslong as the fstabs match SATA-
[21:16] <Clair> The software misbehaving in its own isolated location should not affect the rest of the server.  If it nuke's itself thats fine but the os jumping up and saying "OOOOO, I want to do that to!" is not ok.  I have backups s I am not worried about loosing anything, however down time every other day is bad!
[21:16] <blackness> SATA0 *
[21:16] <bdi_> blackness, which part is possible?
[21:17] <blackness> Clair, if the software reads/writes to the disk, no matter if its isolated or not, still uses the disk.
[21:17] <JimmyNeutron> bdi_: All of it, that it works and doesn't give u a kernal panic.
[21:17] <blackness> bdi_, are you installing ubuntu on ComputerA, then moving the drive to ComputerB ?
[21:17] <invariant> _r00t_, 40e9f4dcb356dc2849c86d1227fcc5ae6a515ce937f1219443571b8cc19d550b  /usr/lib/php5/20090626/pdo_pgsql.so
[21:17] <gaussblurinc_> does anybody know an application to combine multiple *.doc to one pdf?
[21:17] <bdi_> blackness, yes i was considering it
[21:17] <invariant> _r00t_, sha256sum
[21:17] <blackness> thats possible..i do that all the time.
[21:18] <blackness> just make sure you plug in the drive to the 0 port of SATA/IDE
[21:18] <bdi_> blackness, because i need some data on that hdd which resides in a mysql database on that hdd
[21:18] <_r00t_> invariant: md5sum ?
[21:18] <heoyea> gaussblurinc_: convert the doc to pdf then combine it
[21:18] <blackness> why not dump the SQL data, and reinstall it on the new server bdi_ ?
[21:18] <invariant> _r00t_, no, sha256sum
[21:18] <bdi_> blackness, i cannot open computer A
[21:18] <gaussblurinc_> heoyea: ok, how to combine multiple pdf together?
[21:18] <Clair_> Strange DC, anyways new issue.  "sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root?"
[21:19] <_r00t_> invariant: no I want an md5sum as I'm not using a 64 bit OS :p
[21:19] <blackness> ohh..
[21:19] <invariant> _r00t_, 482cc06d39fc2ed1b2af3ab433e55968
[21:19] <heoyea> gaussblurinc_: depends u want a GUI way or command line way?
[21:19] <gentlezman> amel
[21:20] <invariant> _r00t_, same?
[21:20] <guntbert> gaussblurinc_: use pdftk (on CLI)
[21:20] <gaussblurinc_> heoyea: i need to create an combination of lections, so, i don't know, if one way is better, than another
[21:20] <_r00t_> invariant: how can it be ? I use 32bit, 64bit is outside my budget LOL
[21:21] <maxiaojun> btw, md5 is not secure in crypto sense
[21:21] <maxiaojun> http://www.mathstat.dal.ca/~selinger/md5collision/
[21:21] <bdi_> Hello. If i insert a HDD in computer A with one hardware configuration, and install ubuntu, and later take that hdd with the ubuntu installation and insert it in another computer with a different hardware configuration, will the installation then work and also will it be altered? Is there a possibility that the installation will be corrupted?
[21:22] <blackness> bdi_, i already answered that question..yes it can be done.
[21:22] <invariant> maxiaojun, that's why I used sha256sum.
[21:22] <_r00t_> invariant: plus I use libapache2-mod-php5
[21:22] <invariant> _r00t_, I also used that now.
[21:22] <heoyea> gaussblurinc_: heres an easy GUI 1 if u want https://sites.google.com/site/couturierapp/
[21:22] <bottlebob32> hey homies. Quick question, im trying to launch 10.04 on an older celeron D machine (livecd) and it is forever stuck on the loading screen
[21:23] <maxiaojun> bottlebob32: then you try alternative cd?
[21:23] <bdi_> blackness, you just said "thats possible". i did not understand that answer.... what is possible? That the hdd is beeing corrupted? That it can be done with no problems? What
[21:23] <Clair_> "sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root?" has anyone seen this error before?
[21:23] <_r00t_> invariant: apt-get remove --purge libapache2-mod-php5filter
[21:23] <blackness> If your using ComputerA to setup ubuntu, and move it to ComputerB, it will be okay.
[21:23] <bottlebob32> maxiaojun, I;ve tried
[21:23] <bottlebob32> same result
[21:24] <invariant> _r00t_, already done
[21:24] <gauche> How do I copy and install my working wifi driver?
[21:24] <bottlebob32> or is it just possible that it may be taking forever to load since its such an old machine
[21:24] <bottlebob32> ??
[21:25] <maxiaojun> bdi_: should be no problem, just some udev change needed if some hardware number doesn't start from 0
[21:25] <alinmear> i am currently using alsa without pulse audio! now when i plug my usb headset i can change the default device via asound.conf! but the new device has no master switch, so i cant alter the volume via my mutlimedia keys (amixer set Master 1+), any suggestion_! thx and best regards
[21:25] <maxiaojun> bottlebob32: actually when i tried to install 10.04 the other day
[21:25] <fennec> [A[B/mdg NickServ identify djay2irc
[21:25] <blackness> haha, he just lost his nick.. :X
[21:25] <maxiaojun> i find that the usb prepared by unetbootin is broken
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[21:26] <bdi_> maxb, i see...are there any chance that the hdd could get corrupted?
[21:27] <maxiaojun> no
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[21:27] <invariant> _r00t_, exactly the same problem with the newer PHP version, but now for the newer version of that file.
[21:27] <lonewulf85> Hellocould anyone help me with this http://pastebin.com/c9Z6LgEN
[21:28] <guntbert> !here | lonewulf85
[21:28] <ubottu> lonewulf85: Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:29] <bdi_> maxiaojun, so i should be able to boot a different computer on that hdd, startup mysql and extract data?
[21:30] <bencevans_> lonewulf85, try sudo apt-get install libgnome
[21:30] <maxiaojun> yeah
[21:30] <maxiaojun> bottlebob32: are you using usb or cd?
[21:30] <_r00t_> invariant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1373433/
[21:30] <Clair_> is there anyway to repair sudo without sudo or physical access?
[21:30] <lonewulf85> bencevans_: I have tried this and still did not get anything to work.
[21:31] <invariant> _r00t_, how do you load the extension module?
[21:31] <blackness> Clair_, use 'su'.
[21:31] <blackness> then repair that way.
[21:31] <invariant> _r00t_, I think I just read a part of the solution which says that the order matters...
[21:31] <Clair_> it tells me my password is wrong when it's not, that normal?
[21:31] <invariant> _r00t_, as such, it would make a lot of sense if it just tried to load it too early or something like that.
[21:31] <blackness> did you sudo to root and set a password before?
[21:32] <invariant> _r00t_, if I have a known good order, then it would probably work.
[21:32] <blackness> Clair_, did you sudo to root and set a password before?
[21:32] <Clair_> I did not
[21:32] <trism> lonewulf85: libgnome2-dev is the package that has that pkgconfig file
[21:32] <bencevans_> lonewulf85 ok, in that case try 'sudo apt-get install libgnomeui-dev'
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[21:32] <lonewulf85> My issue is I have installed Bitdefender and want to get the nautilus integration to work but keep running into an error.
[21:32] <blackness> Clair_, then i dont know how you would fix sudo
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[21:32] <mendoza> Hello. Anyone seen a black with yellow loading dots after an upgrade of Ubuntu? I get this and it hangs
[21:32] <heoyea> Clair_: maybe u got CAPS on?
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[21:33] <guntbert> Clair_: see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
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[21:33] <blackness> Or that :)
[21:33] <maxiaojun> mendoza: i never upgrade, no matter ubuntu, os x or windows
[21:34] <heoyea> fresh install the way to go
[21:34] <_r00t_> invariant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1373442/
[21:34] <iceroot> maxiaojun: gratulation to all the root-exploits in your systems
[21:35] <Clair_> thats not the error Im getting guntbert
[21:35] <blackness> Clair_, you can use Recovery Mode, or are you not at the machine?
[21:35] <BluesKaj> lonewulf85, no need for bitdefender on linux , that's a windows app afaik and  it won't run on linux
[21:35] <Clair_> im not at the machine
[21:35] <blackness> then i know of no other way to repair this issue..
[21:36] <Laptop1> thanks to everyones help here
[21:36] <Clair_> would installing xfce4 next to gnome cause this issue?
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[21:36] <mendoza> !maxiaojun so not worth trying to fix the problem, better to start fresh at this point?
[21:36] <ubottu> mendoza: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[21:36] <Clair_> i see that it updated both initrd.img and vnlinuz
[21:36] <guntbert> Clair_: ok, one step back: can you log in at all?
[21:37] <Clair_> I can and am
[21:37] <maxiaojun> iceroot: i don't mean upgrade in apt-get sense
[21:37] <guntbert> Clair_: can you use sudo on the CLI?
[21:37] <Clair_> cli?
[21:38] <guntbert> !cli | Clair_
[21:38] <ubottu> Clair_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro
[21:38] <mendoza> maxiaojun: so not worth trying to fix the problem, better to start fresh at this point?
[21:38] <Clair_> terminal, i have terminal
[21:38] <Clair_> im connected via ssh
[21:38] <guntbert> !who | Clair_
[21:38] <ubottu> Clair_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[21:38] <maxiaojun> mendoza: i advocate start fresh, you can still ask questions if people can guess the reasons
[21:38] <Clair_> ubottu ok
[21:38] <ubottu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[21:39] <_r00t_> invariant: user conf error or ubuntu error ?
[21:39] <lonewulf85> BluesKaj: Not only is it not a fake and is actually a real working application. I fell that there is enough of a chance with 1-xxx number of viruses being linux ones that I am going to use it.
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[21:39] <invariant> _r00t_, probably user conf error, but it should warn against such bad use.
[21:39] <blackness> lonewulf85, i use clamav..but for fun.
[21:40] <guntbert> Clair_: so please !pastebin the output of    sudo ls -l /etc/passwd
[21:40] <Clair_> sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root?
[21:40] <Clair_> not worth pastebiniing one line :)
[21:41] <BluesKaj> lonewulf85, bah humbug !
[21:41] <luisxp> hola
[21:41] <luisxp> !list
[21:41] <ubottu> luisxp: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».
[21:41] <_r00t_> Clair_: groups
[21:41] <lonewulf85> blackness: I also used clamav until I stumbled onto this http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/7-of-the-best-anti-virus-apps-for-linux-669087
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[21:42] <guntbert> Clair_: what did you do with your system? please paste the output of ls -l $(which sudo)
[21:43] <Clair_> groups: "staff adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare ", ls -l $(which sudo): -rwxrwxrwx 2 root root 112888 Jul 16 08:14 /usr/bin/sudo
[21:43] <Clair_> It did a check disk on boot then this happened
[21:45] <guntbert> Clair_: no, that isn't caused by a disk check, I've never seen a group "staff" - did you make that yourself?
[21:45] <Clair_> its been there since I installed ubuntu, its the same name as the user
[21:46] <blackness> your user is staff Clair_ ?
[21:46] <Clair_> blackness yes
[21:46] <goddard> how do i create export my public key with gpg?
[21:46] <blackness> is staff part of 'sudo' ?
[21:47] <Clair_> blackness was before the restart
[21:47] <maxiaojun> goddard: http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/x56.html
[21:47]  * Evil_Eric waves in iCarly's general direction
[21:47]  * _r00t_ no like 777 on sudo
[21:48] <blackness> Clair_, is it now?
[21:48] <Clair_> blackness how would I check?
[21:48] <guntbert> blackness: didn't you see? he pasted it
[21:50] <blackness> you can view if it is, by cat /etc/group i believe..
[21:50] <guntbert> Clair_: you can follow the procedure on the page I sent you, until "do the actual repair", then you type chmod -v u+s /usr/bin/sudo and reboot
[21:51] <bonno> hello i know what i ask is irrelevant with the room but i cant findd it anywhere on the internet and i am in a hurry..so if anyone can answer.. when did pentium 4 (x86 architecture) became available for the public to buy?
[21:51] <lonewulf85> trism: After I installed libgnome2-dev I got a different output. http://pastebin.com/zpDeGs81 sorry it is so long.
[21:51] <guntbert> !ot | bonno don't ask, if you know
[21:51] <ubottu> bonno don't ask, if you know: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[21:52] <Clair_> guntbert I do not have physical access
[21:52] <OptiWork> bonno: Nov 20,2000
[21:52] <Clair_> sudo is currently 0777
[21:52] <_r00t_> OptiWork: First hit off Google LOL
[21:52] <OptiWork> :)
[21:53] <trism> lonewulf85: your user doesn't have permission to write to that location, you in general need to: sudo make install; (though I generally prefer to adjust --prefix to install it locally or build a package)
[21:53] <guntbert> Clair_: ah, I forgot, sorry - anyway I have to leave - Good luck!
[21:53] <_r00t_> time taken to log on to #ubuntu ? LOL
[21:53] <lonewulf85> trism: I thought that was what was going on thanks. :)
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[21:55] <Clair_> anyone else up for tackling this error? "sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root?"
[21:55] <OptiWork> Clair_: on your server install?  12.10?
[21:55] <Clair_> optiwork yes, on my server install and 12.10
[21:56] <lonewulf85> trism: I ran the command "./configure && sudo make && sudo make install" would that have worked.
[21:56] <trism> lonewulf85: you shouldn't run: sudo make; but yes
[21:57] <lonewulf85> trism: Why should I not run sudo make?
[21:57] <OptiWork> Clair_: can you set chmod 4777 /usr/bin/sudo?
[21:57] <OptiWork> Clair_: can you set chmod 4755 /usr/bin/sudo?
[21:57] <Clair_> chmod: changing permissions of `/usr/bin/sudo': Operation not permitted
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> OptiWork: let me guess, its a vps :)
[21:58] <OptiWork> Clair_: ahh so you have 0 root access atm
[21:58] <trism> lonewulf85: no need to, results in a bunch of build files you can't modify as your user, may have unpleasant side-effects, it's not a good idea to do this as root when you don't have to
[21:58] <Clair_> yup
[21:58] <_r00t_> ActionParsnip: :)
[21:58] <OptiWork> Clair_: can you boot from the 12.10 live cd and mount /dev/sda1 /mnt or whatever it's called and then change permissions?
[21:58] <trism> lonewulf85: err that final 'this' should be 'things'
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> Clair_: i've seen this. I'm continually bowled over by this
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> OptiWork: could boot to root recovery console
[21:59] <_r00t_> invariant: Talk to me man !
[21:59] <Clair_> actionparsnip ? and optiwork I do not have physical access
[21:59] <lonewulf85> trism: Oh so would this output be good or bad?  http://pastebin.com/CHrS9jHb
[21:59] <OptiWork> Clair_: vps?
[21:59] <Clair_> no, colocated
[21:59] <OptiWork> Clair_: ugh..
[22:00] <trism> lonewulf85: looks successful to me
[22:00] <_r00t_> OptiWork: It must be slow at work to end up here !
[22:00] <OptiWork> Clair_: machine will need to be rebooted into a recovery console or live media and someone there will need to change the permissions for you.
[22:00] <lonewulf85> trism: Cool so when I reboot the right click menu should list "Scan with bitdefender".
[22:01] <OptiWork> _r00t_: hey, I went and had pie in the next building over :P
[22:01] <_r00t_> OptiWork: LOL
[22:01]  * iCarly vaves back vaguely at Evil_Eric 
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Clair_: may need a smarthands request then
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> Clair_: can you su to root?
[22:02]  * Evil_Eric nods at iCarly and goes back to doing his thing 
[22:02] <Clair_> actionparsnip I cannot, I have a backup script that runs from root at 4am every morning, thats as close to root as I can get
[22:02]  * Evil_Eric waves at ActionParsnip 
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> hi Evil_Eric
[22:03] <OptiWork> ooo
[22:03] <Evil_Eric> ello
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Clair_: can you edit that script?
[22:03] <Clair_> yes indeed I can
[22:03] <OptiWork> Clair_: add the chmod 4755 /usr/bin/sudo to it
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Clair_: add the chmod command in there :)
[22:03] <OptiWork> :)
[22:03] <Clair_> will that fix that strange error?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Clair_: it will get sudo back to how it should be
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Clair_: for some unknown reason, VPS peeps like to change the ACL on sudo. Its completely frustratoing
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Clair_: so you won't have sudo access til the script runs. Make it the first command ran by the script so that at 4am you can do stuff :)
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[22:06] <Clair_> I can not edit that file
[22:06] <Clair_> my permissions got changed on it somehow
[22:09]  * _r00t_ is going to hell .... joining #archlinux
[22:11] <Guest74204> hello world
[22:12] <end0fdayz> hello
[22:13] <end0fdayz> -_-
[22:14] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:14] <ubottu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[22:14] <end0fdayz> gay flood bots
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[22:14] <ActionParsnip> end0fdayz: how are bots gay, exactly?
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[22:15] <end0fdayz> bumbots
[22:15] <end0fdayz> -_-
[22:15] <end0fdayz> big gay bum bots
[22:15] <end0fdayz> only sad little skiddies use floodbots
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[22:16] <nikolam> anyone use next3 filesystem (ext3 with snapshots) , ther eis also next4.
[22:16] <nikolam> ?
[22:16] <ikonia> nikolam: I've not seen that as part of the Kernel in ubuntu
[22:17] <nikolam> ikonia, well, it is not. there is not even PPA for it
[22:17] <ikonia> ok, so no-one in #ubuntu will be using it then
[22:17] <ikonia> as the channel is for ubuntu discussion
[22:17] <Clair_> is there any other way to chmod without sudo or root?  Some security exploit of some sort?  Something that allows me to change a 0777 file?
[22:18] <nikolam> ikonia, well, why not. Ubuntu is linux distribution and it is linux kernel module.
[22:18] <nikolam> I just ask if anyone tried it.
[22:18] <ikonia> Clair_: you have to own it
[22:18] <nikolam> It would not be supported, right.
[22:18] <ikonia> nikolam: ##linux is your channel for generic linux
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[22:18] <ikonia> this channel is specific to ubuntu
[22:19] <nikolam> ikonia, well, I am willing to ask people if anyone is using it under Ubuntu, to share, you know.
[22:19] <nikolam> that is all.
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> Clair_: if there wa sit'd be a massive security flaw
[22:19] <ikonia> nikolam: no-one is using it under ubuntu, as you said it's not in the kernel or a PPA
[22:20] <nikolam> ikonia, that doe NOT mean noone is using it under Ubuntu!
[22:20] <Andi_> Hey!! whats up? ;)
[22:20] <ikonia> nikolam: it means it's not on topic for this channel or #xubuntu
[22:20] <nikolam> I suppose there are also people in Ubuntu that compile and make/contribute something , even in ubuntu.
[22:20] <ikonia> nikolam: try ##linux
[22:20] <Andi_> anyone have experience with nosql?
[22:20] <nikolam> ikonia, it is.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> Clair_: sounds like you need a smarthands to boot to root recovery mode and chmod the file to how it should be
[22:20] <nikolam> because I as for ubuntu/whatever combination.
[22:20] <ikonia> nikolam: sorry, it's not.
[22:20] <ikonia> try ##linux
[22:21] <ikonia> nikolam: it's not supported in ubuntu, it's not part of the kernel, and it's not in a PPA
[22:21] <ikonia> this channel is for ubuntu support
[22:21] <nikolam> ikonia, so what.
[22:21] <nikolam> and I use Ubuntu and want to ask peole if anyone tried something.
[22:21] <nikolam> thats is not the crime.
[22:21] <ikonia> nikolam: I'll ask one last time, "please" take it to ##linux
[22:21] <ikonia> generic linux support is better in there
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: then try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:22] <Clair_> I have a proftpd server setup to use mysql for authentication.  Could I use something along that lines to modify root files?
[22:22] <nikolam> ikonia, I am  not talking about it. All I talk about is that you continue pushing me around. Topic is not even there aymore.
[22:22] <ikonia> Clair_: no
[22:22] <ikonia> nikolam: great, not talking about it any more, thank you
[22:23] <blackness> Clair_, no one is going to help you 'exploit' anything, if you cannot get your hands on the machine, or have someone else do this, you're screwed.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> blackness: +1
[22:24] <blackness> ActionParsnip i dont like being a douche, but sometimes it just leaks out :P LOL
[22:24] <Clair_> I own the machine, I dont feel like paying 100s of dollars to have one command executed
[22:24] <ikonia> Clair_: then you should have sudo access
[22:24] <blackness> Clair_, if you own it, go to it and use recovery.
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[22:24] <ikonia> Clair_: if it's your box, you should have sudo access, why do you not have sudo access
[22:25] <Clair_> becuase the sudo file got chmodded
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[22:25] <ikonia> Clair_: how ?
[22:25] <ikonia> why
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Clair_: its how he VPS is setup, its really stupid but its what you have
[22:25] <ikonia> and by who
[22:25] <Clair_> wish I knew
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[22:25] <Clair_> its not a vps
[22:25] <blackness> Clair_, check history..
[22:25] <Clair_> its a dedicated box
[22:25] <ikonia> Clair_: can you show me the output of "uname -a" please.
[22:25] <blackness> Clair_, ALL my servers are HOST -> OpenVZ. for quick restore.
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[22:26] <Clair_> iknonia Linux workspace 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:26] <blackness> looks like 12.10 Clair_ ?
[22:26] <ikonia> so that looks like a physcal standard install
[22:27] <Clair_> it is
[22:27] <ikonia> Clair_: boot into recovery mode.
[22:27] <ikonia> Clair_: or from a CD
[22:27] <blackness> he cant ikonia he doesnt have local access..just ssh
[22:27] <ikonia> then he'll have to pay for remote hands
[22:27] <Clair_> no physical access, thats why I am trying to get around having to do it that way, my colocation host charges oodles of money for that
[22:27] <blackness> ikonia, i agree..or visit the machine himself.
[22:28] <blackness> Clair_, then you need to switch to a different colo..my colo doesnt charge for anything like that.
[22:28] <blackness> and if they do, its never over 20$
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[22:35] <ActionParsnip> blackness: yeah, we do it as part of the contract if its hosted
[22:38] <hyde> ciao
[22:40] <mspencer> Should I ask a question about tools for ubuntu development here or in the #ubuntu-devel channel?
[22:40] <CarlFK> mspencer: I would start here
[22:41] <Pong> I seem to have problems getting my 12.04 Server to access things outside the local network (i.e. cannot connect to google) while other 10.04 Desktops can connect with same settings
[22:42] <blackness> Pong, firewall?
[22:44] <Pong> blackness, no on server firewall and the server and desktops have same access to all
[22:44] <Matrix> привет всем кто не спит
[22:44] <bobweaver> !russian
[22:44] <ubottu> Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.
[22:44] <bobweaver> I think
[22:44] <mspencer> Is sbuild or pbuild better at conserving Internet access (saving downloads for reuse, etc)? I've got an Internet connection that is limited in the amount of download usage per month.
[22:45] <bobweaver> pbuilder has cache if you like mspencer
[22:45] <WeThePeople> how do i upgrade to ubuntu kernel for 10.04.4?
[22:45] <bobweaver> but you do not need to use pubuilder if you do not want to though it is a good idea mspencer
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:46] <bobweaver> mspencer,  running lintian on packages seems to help me all the time
[22:46] <WeThePeople> how do i load the kernel for 10.04.4?
[22:46] <mspencer> bobweaver: how? I'm new to ubuntu development.
[22:46] <bobweaver> mspencer,  that is cool can I ask what you are deving up  ?
[22:47] <mspencer> bobweaver: bug fixing, mostly in python programs.
[22:47] <ikonia> so why does the kernel matter for python ?
[22:47] <MolochDynamo> wethepeople, What are you running now?
[22:47] <mspencer> bobweaver: so far I've worked on software-properties.
[22:47] <bobweaver> mspencer,  you might want to look into the #ubuntu-motu channel also
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[22:47] <ikonia> oops, miss-read, sorry
[22:48] <WeThePeople> molochdynamo, 3.0.0-27-generic #44~lucid1-Ubuntu
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[22:48] <bobweaver> mspencer,  this is one of my favorites when it comes to pbuilder guides http://pbuilder.alioth.debian.org/
[22:48] <mspencer> bobweaver: okay, thanks!
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[22:49] <bobweaver> mspencer,  there is also the #debian-mentors   that is on there network
[22:49] <mspencer> bobweaver: thanks
[22:49] <bobweaver> but mspencer  when building a package lintian is run auto when you use debuild
[22:49] <bobweaver> but you are right it is best to use pbuilder
[22:50] <simplew> when i run dolphin in ubuntu (and im not referring to KDE), even if i click to show the toolbar it doesnt show it, why is this happening?
[22:50] <MolochDynamo> wethepeople, apt-get dist-upgrade should do it. Was there a problem?
[22:50] <mspencer> bobweaver: thanks, I'll stick with pbuilder.
[22:50] <tooner> im using openelec on a htpc and i installed win7 which overwrote the MBR.. is it easy enough for me to use ubuntu live cd to install grub on the openelec system partition and then let win7 manage the dual boot?
[22:51] <bobweaver> mspencer,  you have read the Ubuntu packaging guide ?
[22:51] <bobweaver> http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/   << mspencer
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> tooner: use the omgubuntu guide 'sticking it to grub'  to reinstate grub to the mbr
[22:51] <geezenslaw> Hi, trying to install 12.04 on a new HP tower. Wubi.exe install and a Windows boot manager ubuntu is displayed as a choice but the box claims corrupted. Any ideas?
[22:52] <tooner> ActionParsnip thanks
[22:52] <WeThePeople> molochdynamo, i would like to keep using 10.04, the problem is i updated the kernel to oneric and would like to load lucids kernel again
[22:52] <mspencer> bobweaver: Yes, I've read that and used its instructions for working on my first bug.
[22:52] <bobweaver> mspencer,  I also highly recomend the Debian new maintians guide though cryptic at points it is a good place to" dig deep " so to say
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: reboot, hold shift and select the kernel
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: Lucid is EOL in 6 months so you wil need to move soon
[22:53] <bobweaver> mspencer,  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
[22:53] <MonkeyDust> WeThePeople  less than 6 months, even
[22:53] <WeThePeople> nope 12.04 is to slow on my comp
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> can't wait for Lucid to die
[22:53] <bobweaver> +1 ActionParsnip
[22:53] <MonkeyDust> WeThePeople  then use lxde
[22:53] <JoshuaLin> #NAKEDCATS
[22:53] <MolochDynamo> wethepeople, What actionparsnip said, you should be able to remove the 10.4.4 kernel after that.
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: or use Xubuntu, you can run all your favourite gnome apps in any desktop...
[22:54] <mspencer> bobweaver: thanks
[22:54] <bobweaver> np
[22:54] <bobweaver> mspencer,  are you getting stuck somewhere or is it just a issue of bandwidth ?
[22:54] <simplew> ActionParsnip: any hint on why dolphin doesnt show toolbar in unity?
[22:55] <OerHeks> simplew, doesn't it show on the top panel?
[22:55] <mspencer> bobweaver: No, we just got a new Internet service that limits us on download usage plus I just upgraded to 12.10 via a new install, so was just wondering on the best method.
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> simplew: as in 'File Edit View' etc
[22:56] <simplew> ActionParsnip: yes
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> simplew: is it not put in the global menu?
[22:57] <simplew> ActionParsnip: i click to show toolbar but doesnt show it
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> simplew: what if you press ALT+F  while Dolphin has focus?
[22:57] <bobweaver> mspencer,  ahh yeah there are many ways to skin a cat you can build local and test also . that is another way just like with debuild but you can run      fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -f from the source dir and that will give you debian package to try on local system or a virtual one ect if you do not have great bandwidth
[22:58] <simplew> ActionParsnip: oh i forgot tha tunity the menu bar is show in the top desktop bar
[22:58] <bobweaver> mspencer,  but keep in mind on new packages it is best to use pbuilder be cause if you need what I like to call hidden dependences in the d/control
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> simplew: yes, thats the global menu....
[22:59] <simplew> what a crap
[22:59] <simplew> ActionParsnip: thanks
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> simplew: no worries, all the other gnome apps do that too
[22:59] <simplew> ActionParsnip: time to go back to cinnamon
[22:59] <mspencer> bobweaver: I'll just stick with pbuilder since I'm new, thanks for all your help!
[22:59] <simplew> ActionParsnip: another thing, how do i configure icons in unity just for curiosity
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> simplew: you can use cinammon, but its not supported here
[23:00] <silindean> time to go Back in Time :) @simplew
[23:00] <simplew> ActionParsnip: im still in unity
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> simplew: you can configure icons in any desktop by editting the .desktop for the app in /usr/share/applications
[23:00] <bobweaver> np mspencer  let us know (buy filing a bug or question on  launchpad) if there is anything about the packageing guide that can be better thanks for deving up in Ubuntu You Rock !
[23:00] <simplew> ActionParsnip: im referring to the icons theme
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> simplew: by default they should obey the icon theme you set
[23:01] <bobweaver> mspencer,  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide
[23:01] <simplew> ActionParsnip: thats what im asking, how to change icons theme in unity
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> simplew: there is gnome-tweak-tool    you can set things with
[23:01] <simplew> ActionParsnip: but that isnt installed by default
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> simplew: many things aren't
[23:03] <mercury00> what channel is best to join for help with reprepro?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> !alis | mercury00
[23:03] <ubottu> mercury00: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*
[23:03] <simplew> ActionParsnip: how can i set dolphin as default fle manager in unity?
[23:03] <mercury00> Thanks!
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[23:04] <geezenslaw> Selecting ubuntu from the windows boot menu claims File: \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr is missing or corrupt. Any diagnostics for this?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> simplew: right click a folder in nautilus, then select open with other app and select dolphin
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> geezenslaw: have you chkdsk'd your NTFS partition?
[23:05] <simplew> ActionParsnip: thats not what i asked
[23:06] <Kraun> !ciao
[23:06] <Kraun> !list
[23:06] <ubottu> Kraun: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».
[23:06] <geezenslaw> the machine has 2 drives C: and E: and I chose E:. I suspect E: has no partition. but why did it install w/ no issues?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> simplew: it will change the config so that folders open in dolphin, so anytime a file browser is needed, it will open
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> simplew: how is that not what you wanted?
[23:08] <simplew> ActionParsnip: when i right click in a folder i have no option like "Open With...", it simply apepars "Open"
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> simplew: do you have 'open with other application'?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> simplew: 5th option down...?
[23:09] <simplew> ActionParsnip: not when right click over a folder
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> simplew: in nautilus
[23:09] <simplew> yes in nautilus
[23:09] <geezenslaw> ActionParsip: the machine won't let me run chkdsk. must be so-called elevated mode.
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> geezenslaw: in windows?
[23:10] <bobweaver> simplew,  what is permissions on file ?
[23:10] <bobweaver> is it a script ?
[23:10] <bobweaver> or executable
[23:10] <simplew> bobweaver: im in home, so i have all permission i need to a full control
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> simplew: http://askubuntu.com/questions/168752/how-to-run-dolphin-instead-of-nautilus
[23:11] <bobweaver> simplew,  you are getting the anwser that I am saying. Is the file that you are trying to open a script or maked as executable ?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> simplew: http://askubuntu.com/questions/84929/how-to-set-up-dolphin-as-default-file-manager
[23:12] <geezenslaw> ActionParsnip: yes in windows. I checked the account type and i'm Administrator. I don't get it.
[23:12] <simplew> ActionParsnip: thats simply a bad hack, i thought there was some option to set default filemanager
[23:12] <bobweaver> if so then it will just run that script and you can not right click to open with program.  Or if you are using mixed libarys maybe gtk3 is flipping out. Or maybe this is a desktop file that you are trying to open ?
[23:12] <simplew> ActionParsnip: but thanks for the tip
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> geezenslaw: runa cmd as admin and  run:  chkdsk /F c:
[23:13] <simplew> geezenslaw: windows?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> simplew: not something I've had to do, it may be in mime_types file (if memory serves)
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> geezenslaw: right click the shortcut and click 'rus as administrator'
[23:14] <Lttlwing16> hey all
[23:14] <Lttlwing16> quick question
[23:14] <Lttlwing16> for anyone who is willing to answer
[23:15] <simplew> ActionParsnip: any hint how to edit mimetypes in unity?
[23:15] <Lttlwing16> running 12.04 from a USB flash drive sys persistent and the dropbox app (installed from .deb file through Software center) won't hang on to my login
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> simplew: its a text file, so the session is moot
[23:15] <Lttlwing16> it resets every reboot
[23:15] <simplew> ActionParsnip: moot?
[23:15] <Lttlwing16> I've tried a number of fixes to no avail
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> simplew: irrelevant, not important
[23:16] <simplew> ActionParsnip: but i dont know which file is
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> simplew: sudo updatedb; locate mime | grep type
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> simplew: didn't spring to mind?
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[23:17] <simplew> ActionParsnip: in fact no :)
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[23:19] <GandalfB> Hello all -
[23:19] <simplew> ActionParsnip: this is weird, if running kwrite in unity it does show menu bar in kwrite window, strange doesnt do the same for dolphin
[23:19] <GandalfB> anyone on hand to help out with a problem I'm having.
[23:19] <bobweaver> QT + gtk 3 =  What something is not right
[23:20] <simplew> nautilus is going from bad to worst, now isnt even possible to have a tree sidebar panel like used to exist...
[23:20] <bobweaver> GandalfB,  it is best just to ask your question
[23:20] <GandalfB> thanks bob - ok will do
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> simplew: could poke around in /etc/mime.types
[23:22] <geezenslaw> ActionParsnip: run as admin makes no diff. I suspect the setup is geared to use the C: drive and not the E: drive.
[23:22] <geezenslaw> I will try to use an USB flashdrive.
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> geezenslaw: whichever partition (not a drive) has the Wubi install on, get it checked.
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> geezenslaw: you should have a GUI app in systrem tools if memory serves
[23:23] <GandalfB> ok - I've installed 12.10 - and now I'm getting a hang on longin screen, after I log in with my user name and password.   The login prompt vanishes and I just get the default wallpaper and mouse pointer, nothing else.   The OS seems to report general error and thats it.   I've tried stopping and starting lightdm and also tried switching to gdm.    prior to the restart, there were number of things installed, so I'm not su
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> GandalfB: su isn't a user
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> GandalfB: what video chip do you have?
[23:24] <GandalfB> I'm using nvidia 8600
[23:24] <GandalfB> its rather old pc
[23:24] <bobweaver> GandalfB,  you have ran unity test ?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> GandalfB: did you install the proprietary video driver?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> GandalfB: mine are all older ;)
[23:24] <GandalfB> I think, I might of changed the driver before re-starting
[23:25] <GandalfB> maybe.. can't remmber
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> GandalfB: did you upgrade from Precise, or is it a clean install?
[23:25] <GandalfB> how do I run unity test / switch
[23:25] <GandalfB> its a clean install
[23:25] <GandalfB> all I've installed since the clean install is xammp, some ai32-libs and flash plugin
[23:26] <bobweaver> GandalfB,  if you press ctrl+alt+f1 then log in and run  "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p "   is it all yeses ?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: well that's super convenient
[23:26] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  I am betting that you are right and it is mod that is not loaded
[23:27] <GandalfB> it says - "Error: unable to open display"
[23:27] <bobweaver> GandalfB,  can you install pastebinit ?
[23:27] <bobweaver> !info pastebinit | GandalfB
[23:27] <ubottu> GandalfB: pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-2ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 15 kB, installed size 172 kB
[23:28] <GandalfB> how do I do that -
[23:28] <bobweaver> then run     "lspci | pastebinit "  then give us the link to see
[23:28] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:28] <GandalfB> thanks
[23:28] <bobweaver> you are at tty ?
[23:28] <GandalfB> doing that now
[23:28] <bobweaver> GandalfB,  also a "lsmod | pastebinit "  would also help
[23:28] <nrdb> I am running 12.04 server ... I want to install libcgi-dev ... which is in universe .... which I think is properly enabled ... but I keep getting " Package 'libcgi-dev' has no installation candidate"
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[23:30] <blackness> nrdb, sudo apt-get install pastebinit; sudo apt-get update|pastebinit
[23:30] <bobweaver> blackness that will not work
[23:30] <Lttlwing16> anyone know why Dropbox logs out after reboot
[23:30] <Lttlwing16> can't get it to stick
[23:31] <GandalfB> ok the lspci output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1373653/
[23:31] <bobweaver> must save output at var then cat it like           " update-output=$(sudo apt-get update) && cat $update-output | pastebinit "
[23:32] <GandalfB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1373656/ is the lsmod output
[23:32] <bobweaver> GandalfB,  I also have that same chip in a different computer."  GeForce 8600 GT "
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Lttlwing16: have you tried with a different USB stick?
[23:32] <Lttlwing16> Nope..
[23:32] <bobweaver> GandalfB,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[23:32] <BeoWulf`> howdy all. What will I lose, aside from the annoying start bar thing, if I install another desktop like Cinnamon?
[23:32] <bobweaver> then reboot
[23:32] <Lttlwing16> ActionParsnip: I think nautilus is out of wack
[23:32] <str1ct> hi everyone. Somebody could tell me what should I do to not enter the password each time when i try install smth, for example: sudo apt-get install.... then I have to enter the pswd... can I set smth to don't do it?
[23:33] <blackness> yes, i was wrong..
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> BeoWulf`: if you use cinammon you will not get support for it here
[23:33] <Lttlwing16> because It won't hold on to the Spotify app I put in the dock either
[23:33] <bobweaver> blackness, yeah I have run into the troubles many times
[23:33] <blackness> nrdb, follow what bobweaver pasted: update-output=$(sudo apt-get update) && cat $update-output | pastebinit
[23:33] <beandog> str1ct: http://www.maestric.com/doc/unix/ubuntu_sudo_without_password
[23:33] <nrdb> blackness, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/1373659/
[23:33] <bobweaver> Oo
[23:33] <str1ct> beandog: thank you;)
[23:34] <blackness> you are using universe, lemme see if that package exists under that name
[23:34] <bobweaver> blackness no I was wrong :/
[23:34] <BeoWulf`> Not looking for support, mostly I want to know what I will lose?
[23:34] <GandalfB> ok, it says "nvidia-current is already the newest version"
[23:34] <andybrine> evening all
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> BeoWulf`: that's all.
[23:34] <blackness> nrdb, what does: sudo apt-get install libcgi0 report?
[23:35] <GandalfB> I think I may of switched something with the video card on previous login,
[23:35] <blackness> bobweaver, so we're both wrong ?:P
[23:35] <andybrine> does anyone know a good command to purge everything relating to a program
[23:35] <bobweaver> GandalfB,  what is   "apt-cache policy nvidia-current | pastebinit "
[23:35] <andybrine> so the program can be reinstalled
[23:35] <andybrine> ?
[23:35] <WeThePeople> is there a easy way to install xampp on ubuntu?
[23:35] <blackness> andybrine, have you tried apt-get remove --purge package ?
[23:36] <iceroot> WeThePeople: please dont use xampp on GNU/Linux
[23:36] <lcabreza2> WeThePeople: download the tar.gz file and extract it
[23:36] <andybrine> not yet, thanks blackness
[23:36] <blackness> welcome, or you can use apt-get purge andybrine
[23:36] <iceroot> lcabreza2: please dont suggest to install something as tar.gz
[23:36] <andybrine> i installed neflix and want to purge all then reinstall
[23:36] <GandalfB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1373666/
[23:36] <lcabreza2> WeThePeople: it would be best to download and compile ..
[23:36] <blackness> i perfer the --flags over all the others
[23:36] <nrdb> blackness, "E: Unable to locate package libcgi0"
[23:36] <bobweaver> GandalfB, funny thing is if installed nvidia is not loaded in lsmod :?
[23:36] <blackness> nrdb, 12.04?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> !info libcgi0
[23:36] <ubottu> Package libcgi0 does not exist in quantal
[23:36] <WeThePeople> iceroot, what do you recommend
[23:36] <blackness> !info libcgi-dev
[23:36] <ubottu> Package libcgi-dev does not exist in quantal
[23:36] <iceroot> WeThePeople: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server phpmyadmin
[23:36] <GandalfB> is the output from that command
[23:36] <blackness> LIES
[23:37] <iceroot> WeThePeople: install the lamp packages directly with the command i gave you
[23:37] <nrdb> blackness, yes ... 12.04.01 to be precise
[23:37] <iceroot> !lamp | WeThePeople
[23:37] <ubottu> WeThePeople: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[23:37] <blackness> i have that package for 10.11
[23:37] <blackness> 12.10 *
[23:37] <WeThePeople> iceroot, can i run perl
[23:37] <bobweaver> GandalfB,  try    "sudo modprob nvidia && sudo services lightdm restart "
[23:37] <GandalfB> bobweaver I might of stupiedly turned it off
[23:37] <blackness> The following NEW packages will be installed:\  libcgi-dev libcgi0
[23:37] <iceroot> WeThePeople: sure, sudo apt-get install perl  (but i guess its already installed)
[23:37] <blackness> one moment nrdb
[23:37] <GandalfB> bobweaver, trying now
[23:38] <nrdb> blackness, uname -a = "Linux www 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[23:38] <bobweaver> GandalfB,  yeah it looks that way lsmod says driver is not loaded but policy says that it is installed
[23:39] <blackness> nrdb, what are we trying to do? maybe the package name changed from 12.04 to 12.10
[23:40] <nrdb> blackness, I am trying to develop some cgi in C for a website... the libcgi looks api looks good.
[23:40] <blackness> !info libcgi-devel
[23:40] <ubottu> Package libcgi-devel does not exist in quantal
[23:40] <GandalfB> bobweaver, modprob, says command not found.... could that be because I'm running gdm instead of lightdm?
[23:40] <blackness> !info libcgi-devel precise
[23:40] <bobweaver> No
[23:40] <ubottu> Package libcgi-devel does not exist in precise
[23:41] <nrdb> blackness, isn't that "libcgi-dev"
[23:41] <blackness> yes..
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libcgi&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all
[23:41] <blackness> i found packages for all ubuntu's but 12.04 :/
[23:41] <nrdb> !info libcgi-dev precise
[23:41] <ubottu> Package libcgi-dev does not exist in precise
[23:41] <bobweaver> GandalfB,  sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install nvidia current && sudo reboot
[23:41] <bobweaver> that will reboot at end
[23:42] <blackness> nrdb, libcgic-dev
[23:42] <GandalfB> bobweaver, cool let me try that
[23:42] <blackness> !info libcgic-dev
[23:42] <ubottu> libcgic-dev (source: libcgic): C library for developing CGI applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.05-3 (quantal), package size 49 kB, installed size 184 kB
[23:43] <nrdb> blackness, that is different but I suppose I could use it... libcgi must have been dropped at some time.
[23:43] <blackness> nrdb, sudo apt-get install libcgic-dev, sorry, forgot that part.
[23:43] <bobweaver> !info libcgic2
[23:43] <ubottu> libcgic2 (source: libcgic): C library for developing CGI applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.05-3 (quantal), package size 19 kB, installed size 62 kB
[23:43] <blackness> same thing..cept for sizes :P
[23:44] <bobweaver> apt-cache search libcgic
[23:44] <blackness> does that provide header files bobweaver ?
[23:44] <simplew> ActionParsnip: the solution is to in mimeapps.list add a line with inode/directory=kde4-dolphin.desktop
[23:45] <bobweaver> blackness run apt-cache show <name of package >
[23:45] <minas> Hi. How can I see the version of the GPU driver?
[23:45] <theos911> It should be displayed with glxinfo
[23:45] <blackness> he needs the development package.. libcgic isnt the development package..im viewing it via www :P
[23:45] <nrdb> blackness, bobweaver , thanks for your time... I see about converting the code to libcgic
[23:46] <GandalfB> bobweaver, thats working away
[23:46] <minas> theos911: server glx version string: 1.4. is that it?
[23:46] <blackness> Welcome nrdb
[23:46] <bobweaver> nrdb,  what about libcg ?
[23:46] <bobweaver> opps that is nvidia toolkit :/
[23:46] <theos911> No minas, I don't think so.
[23:47] <theos911> I'm a bit rusty, but it should be something more like "3.3.0 NVIDIA 295.49"
[23:47] <minas> theos911: client glx version string? (By the way, I want the driver version, not the version of openGL). I'm using ATI
[23:47] <theos911> I think OpenGL version string is what you want
[23:48] <minas> theos911: no, that's the version of opengl
[23:48] <bobweaver> One can see the pacakge infromation like version number  with     apt-cache policy <name of package >
[23:48] <theos911> Ok, I tried, Sorry
[23:48] <bobweaver> including drivers
[23:48] <minas> theos911: thanks anyway :)
[23:48] <bobweaver> or mods or what every
[23:51] <GandalfB> bobweaver, rebooting
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[23:54] <GandalfB> bobweaver, ok rebooted, logged in, starting at just the wallpaper and the mouse pointer,  nothing else.  I'm supposed to be using GDM
[23:54] <WeThePeople> iceroot, how do i run the installed programs to edit a webpage?
[23:55] <bobweaver> GandalfB,  ok open terminal ctrl+alt+t  and run lsmod | grep nvidia    anything show up ?
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[23:55] <GandalfB> bobweaver, rebooting
[23:56] <GandalfB> bobweaver, fyi,, it just said the applicatoin compiz has closed unexpectedly
[23:56] <bobweaver> ahh
[23:56] <bobweaver> GandalfB,  let us know when rebooted
[23:56] <GandalfB> bobweaver, I'm not repbooting btw, that was typeo
[23:56] <bobweaver> oh
[23:57] <bobweaver> press ctrl+alt+f1   log in and run     lsmod | pastebinit      then give us link
[23:57] <GandalfB> ok roger
[23:59] <GandalfB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1373717/
[23:59] <bobweaver> er nividia is still not loaded !
[23:59] <GandalfB> Bobweaver, also nothing showed up doing the grep