[09:11] <karni> Gooood morning!
[09:23] <JamesTait> Good morning all! :-D
[09:24] <JamesTait> karni, beuno is rubbing off on you. :-P
[09:24] <karni> heh ;)
[09:25] <karni> unintensional :)
[09:35] <mandel> mornin all!
[09:35] <mandel> JamesTait, karni, hola!
[09:35] <gatox> good morning!
[09:50] <JamesTait> mandel, o/
[10:51] <Moscherkobold> good morning
[10:52] <Moscherkobold> is there a known bug with the windows client?
[10:52] <Moscherkobold> not able to connect to my account after installing
[10:56] <Moscherkobold> (the reason is not my firewall)
[11:08] <karni> mandel, gatox o/ hiya
[11:08] <gatox> karni, o/
[11:36] <mandel> fuuuu
[11:36]  * mandel wants to kill virtualbox
[11:38]  * mvo -> lunch after another successful fight with the unity launcher install progress
[11:40] <mandel> mvo, let me know how that goes.. although is not meant to happen it would be nice to have that for music payments..
[11:40] <mandel> but as I said, not meant to happen this cycle
[11:59] <gatox> yeyyyyyyy...... unity compilinng with the staging folder!! after it broke my machine.... now it seems that is working properly
[13:16] <mandel> we got music payment working on more than one machine, time for lunch!
[13:16]  * mandel -> lunch
[13:16]  * gatox too
[14:01] <alecu> hello, all!
[14:12] <ralsina> hola alecu
[14:12] <ralsina> alecu: can you pass me the URL for the task list you had at the sprint?
[14:13] <alecu> ralsina: you mean joshua's spreadsheet?
[14:13] <ralsina> alecu: ok, if it was joshua's then yes :-)
[14:13] <ralsina> alecu: also, I need you to logn to https://houston-ce.fugue88.ws/
[14:13] <ralsina> alecu: just login nothing else yet :-)
[14:14] <alecu> ack
[14:21] <karni> hi alecu :)
[14:30] <alecu> hey ralsina, are you feeling any better?
[14:32] <ralsina> alecu: no
[14:33] <alecu> ralsina: it's probably the ubuflu one :-(
[14:34] <ralsina> alecu: compounded with all the traveling and moving around when I arrived, and trying to be everywhere at once
[14:34] <ralsina> alecu: I was better on saturday, and started feeling worse since monday :-(
[14:35] <alecu> ralsina: right, you had the talk at pyconar! Did you get there on time? was the event good?
[14:36] <ralsina> alecu: missed 80% of it
[14:36] <ralsina> alecu: but people seemed to like  it
[14:36] <alecu> awesome
[14:58] <gatox> back
[14:58]  * mandel back
[15:06] <karni> Quite a few folks don't feel very well after the sprint. I blame the weather (which was even worse when I arrived back to Warsaw)
[15:29] <mvo> ralsina: ohhh :( what is it? a cold?
[15:29] <mvo> I didn't got hit by ubuflu (probably the first time evar I was spared ;)
[15:30] <ralsina> mvo: doctor says "some virus"
[15:31] <mvo> ralsina: :( get well!
[15:31] <ralsina> mandel, rockstar: please login at https://houston-ce.fugue88.ws or else
[15:32] <ralsina> or else I will have to ask again!
[15:32] <karni> :D
[15:32] <mandel> ralsina, on it
[15:32] <mvo> is it just me or is it empty at this point?
[15:32] <ralsina> mvo: apparently I got dehydrated last night, so I am drinking "oral rehidration salts" which is sort of gatorade made in hell (salty strawberry water!)
[15:32] <ralsina> mvo: it is empty
[15:33] <ralsina> mvo: I will fill it today
[15:33] <mvo> ralsina: does not sound like fun :/
[15:33] <mvo> ralsina: (both the virus and having to fill it ;)
[15:33] <ralsina> mvo: hehe
[15:33] <ralsina> mvo: or I may take the day, drink this evil crap, rest and do it tomorrow
[15:34] <ralsina> argh, our bugs are getting spammed by linkedin again
[15:39] <gatox> karni, question...... in java the inheritance is always protected?? as in C++: class Something : protected AnotherClass......
[15:39] <gatox> or always private?
[15:40] <karni> gatox: access is protected with whatever level it is in parent class. that is, if a field is private, the Something wont' see it. if it's protected, Something will see it. if its public, everyone will have access to it
[15:40] <karni> gatox: There's no public: / private: scopes, each field has explicit access declaration
[15:41] <karni> gatox: Does that answer your question :)?
[15:41] <gatox> karni, yes....... but if i have a class that inherit from another class which inherit from another class that has something as protected...... if i remember correctly...... the most child-ish class won't see the protected part of the upper level class..... is that right?
[15:42] <karni> gatox: It will still have access to the inherited protected field.
[15:42] <karni> gatox: I'll admit, I wasn't 100% sure, so I verified it just now.
[15:43] <karni> gatox: protected is to allow access to class who inherit, but not the outer world
[15:45] <gatox> karni, ok...... so i'm confusing with another language jeje thx
[15:45] <karni> gatox: np! :)
[15:46] <karni> gatox: Few years back, I mixed up awk, sed and perl syntax in a single task during an exam. That was quite a failure hahah.
[15:58] <mvo> doorbell, I may be 2min late for the meeting
[16:00] <mvo> back
[16:00] <mvo> me!
[16:00] <karni> me
[16:00] <mmcc> me
[16:01] <mvo> is it just the three of us today?
[16:01] <karni> o_O
[16:01] <karni> rockstar: You around today?
[16:01] <rockstar> me
[16:02] <rockstar> (I'm around for most of the day)
[16:02] <mmcc> I thought I saw  gatox alecu and mandel on the chat logs… ralsina too, although he's feeling ill
[16:02] <karni> gatox: me?
[16:02] <mandel> us
[16:02] <gatox> me
[16:02] <mandel> as in me && gatox
[16:02] <ralsina> I would say me, but...
[16:02] <karni> hehe
[16:02] <alecu> uh, me
[16:02]  * alecu needs to write standup
[16:03] <ralsina> mmcc: please login to houston? https://houston-ce.fugue88.ws
[16:03] <karni> dobey's on holiday or sth?
[16:03] <karni> yeah I think so
[16:03] <mmcc> ralsina: sure
[16:03] <gatox> or else!
[16:03] <gatox> jeje
[16:03] <karni> mvo: Shall we start then?
[16:03] <mvo> DID: expenses london, work on lp:~mvo/software-center/launcher-integration-fixes and lp:~mvo/unity/sc-agent-fixes, lp:~mvo/unity/sc-launcher-integration-fixes - unity branch ready for feedback from the unity devs now
[16:03] <mvo> TODO: fixup software-center to fully work with the new unity handling
[16:03] <mvo> BLOCKED: nothing
[16:03] <mvo> MISC: on vac tomorrow afternoon
[16:03] <karni> DONE: Finished metadata	optimization. Read up on Hockey, initial server	deployment test	(on a private VPS).
[16:03] <mvo> next karni
[16:03] <karni> TODO: Ask for u1-s roll out, 'save to playlist' screen + saving to server
[16:03] <karni> next: mmcc
[16:04] <mvo> karni: I played hockey last night, but I guess that is a different hockey ;)
[16:04] <mmcc> DONE: sprint, testability stuff
[16:04] <mmcc> TODO: more testability, catch up
[16:04] <mmcc> BLOK: no
[16:04] <mmcc> NEXT:
[16:04]  * karni huh, I have some formatting issues when pasting from emacs
[16:04] <karni> mvo: hehehe
[16:04] <mmcc> um, gatox?
[16:04] <rockstar> DONE: submit branches
[16:04] <rockstar> TODO: get reviews, finish core data caching
[16:04] <rockstar> BLOCKED: No
[16:04] <rockstar> REMINDER: I'm unavailable the rest of the week
[16:04] <rockstar> NEXT: mandel/gatox
[16:04] <rockstar> No, it was me next.
[16:04] <mmcc> ah ok
[16:04] <mandel> DONE: Splitted dash work in sub-tasks to perform. Renamed U1PaymentPreview to PaymentPreview. Talked with design to get the app payment wireframe. Finished machine set up (payment preview works in all our systems).
[16:04] <mandel> TODO: Finish defining payment preview base class. Refactor MusicPaymentPreview to use base class. Create ErrorPaymentPreview based on PaymentPreview. App preview ?? (probably tom) Canonical admin.
[16:04] <mandel> BLOCKED: no
[16:04] <mandel> alecu, please
[16:04] <mandel> that was gatox and mandel
[16:04] <alecu> DONE: traveled back from sprint, catching up with email
[16:04] <alecu> TODO: fix dash payment scope branches
[16:04] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[16:05] <ralsina> ok, I forgot to do notes. I'm skipping and taking the rest of the day off to drink the world's wost beverage and try to get better :-(
[16:05] <alecu> ralsina: hope you get all hidrated and better!
[16:05] <karni> ralsina: All the best, get better soon Roberto
[16:05] <mvo> ralsina: yeah, get well!
[16:06] <ralsina> will try! Bye!
[16:06] <karni> We skipped gatox ?
[16:06] <karni> oh, with mandel
[16:06] <karni> That's a wrap then.
[16:06] <karni> bye ralsina !
[16:19] <ralsina> mmcc: which days are you taking off this week?
[16:20] <mmcc> ralsina - tomorrow and friday. I should've put those in earlier, sorry
[16:21] <ralsina> mmcc: it's ok. I need to schedule testing for the final release.
[16:21] <ralsina> mmcc: so, the main missing bit is autoupdater, correct?
[16:21] <karni> Can we expense dinner on Sunday as well? (the day we arrived) or only Mon-Fri?
[16:21] <ralsina> karni: dunno.
[16:21] <ralsina> karni: I *think* not.
[16:21] <karni> I'll ask in #hr
[16:21] <ralsina> karni: and then share ;-)
[16:21] <karni> yup
[16:22] <mmcc> ralsina: yes, once updater is in, we can release and push other improvements out later.
[16:22] <alecu> karni: I usually expense all the meals in the day I arrive.
[16:22] <ralsina> mmcc: ok, do you think it could be done for, say, next tuesday?
[16:22] <karni> alecu: I think I did the same, I'll just double check what I can expense.
[16:22] <mmcc> ralsina, that depends - I know brian got pretty far with the updater last week, but IIRC no beta channel yet, and I'm not sure where his code is…
[16:23] <ralsina> mmcc: well, we are not going to need the beta channel just yet
[16:23] <ralsina> mmcc: since the mac version is not a beta ;)
[16:23] <mvo> karni: in the past that was ok, afterall we had to buy dinner :)
[16:23] <ralsina> mmcc: brian is not back until monday, so maybe email him to see where the code lives?
[16:23] <mmcc> ralsina: right, so just need to get his code. yes, I'll ping him
[16:25] <karni> mvo: yeah, I think that's the way
[16:26] <ralsina> I suck at expensing stuff. Half the time I don't even do it.
[16:28] <karni> Yeah, I've been there. This time I decided to not forget and do it right away ;)
[16:31] <mmcc> ok, pinged brian. ralsina, this is testing for the final release by next tuesday, or the release itself?
[16:31] <ralsina> mmcc: testing
[16:32] <mmcc> ralsina: ok, tuesday should be fine then.
[16:34] <ralsina> mmcc: awesome
[16:47] <karni> ralsina: Just FYI, I followed https://wiki.canonical.com/DavidDuffey/ExpenseReportGuidelines to send over my subway ticket(s) expese to and from hotel with the subway (naturally, Cc'ed you, not David)
[16:48] <ralsina> karni: awesome :)
[16:48] <karni> :)
[17:11] <roasted> hello!
[17:13] <roasted> I noticed that Ubuntu one is taking up a huge amount of my tablet battery. just over a third of a ten hour battery.
[17:13] <roasted> I assume this isn't expected behavior?
[17:15] <mmcc> hi roasted, which tablet are you using?
[17:16] <roasted> nexus 7
[17:17] <roasted> I only noticed it when I upgraded android to 4.2. I felt as though the battery was worse, but then I saw Ubuntu one was the number one spot for battery use
[17:18] <mmcc> ok roasted, karni is our android developer. I think he's still around - maybe he can help.
[17:19] <roasted> sounds good however I am down to 10% battery so I won't be on here long
[17:20] <roasted> just wanted to get it in the radar here and see what you guys thought.
[17:20] <karni> roasted: hi!
[17:20] <roasted> I restored Ubuntu one through titanium backup. not sure if that is relevant
[17:21] <roasted> hey there
[17:21] <karni> roasted: I upgraded my Nexus 7 to 4.2 just yesterday
[17:21] <karni> roasted: Have you noticed this problem on a lower version as well or just with 4.2?
[17:21] <roasted> just 4.2
[17:21] <roasted> I did a fresh flash of it, not a bump upgrade
[17:22] <karni> roasted: I'll certainly keep it on my radar, thanks for reporting!
[17:23] <roasted> I'm going to reinstall it from scratch. I restored it through titanium backup. maybe that will change things
[17:24] <karni> roasted: I noticed my favorite game stopped working on 4.2 :< (stick man cliff jump)
[17:24] <karni> roasted: Just on a funny related note :)
[17:24] <roasted> it's just crazy it's using more battery then even the screen. like I said it's #1 for battery consumption.
[17:25] <roasted> I'll run through a battery charge cycle or two after I reinstall and let you know if I find anything worth mentioning.
[17:25] <karni> roasted: Anyhow, thanks for reporting man! Yeah, looks like a wake lock not released.
[17:25] <karni> roasted: Feel free to file a bug on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-android-files or I'll do that myself.
[17:25] <karni> roasted: I'll look into this issue tonight (late evening) :)
[17:25] <roasted> sounds good. battery is in single digits. time to run!
[17:26] <roasted> take it easy
[17:26] <karni> ^_^
[17:26] <karni> take care man!
[18:01] <gatox> eod here! byeeeeeeeeee
[18:09]  * karni EODs as well, although I'll probably do some work late evening, and look into that Nesux 7 battery on 4.2 problem
[21:53] <karni> Good evening folks :)