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iomthdhi all02:32
knomehello02:32
iomthdI'm pretty new to all of this but when I've tried live editions before I was able to install some software packages to try them out before installing to disk02:33
iomthdI don't seem to be able to do that on the current release of xubuntu. Am I missing something?02:33
iomthdI'm used unetbootin to transfer the live image to my usb drive02:34
iomthdI*02:34
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john2xi'm having an issue with my Virtual Box setup, where when I drag/scroll with my mouse, the pointer tends to go to the upper-left randomly, messing up my dragging/scrolling.05:53
john2xI already installed VBox's guest additions.. i'm on 12.1005:53
john2xupper-left corner of the screen*05:54
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tomatopotatohrmm interesting06:49
tomatopotatoi cant even remotely imagine what it could be06:51
LiraNunaI just got xubuntu, and it's AWESOME08:08
TheSheepglad you like it08:08
LiraNunaI installed skype on it and I can't get it to blend in08:08
LiraNunaI know it uses Qt and there should be a package to allow Qt to detect GTK+08:09
TheSheepLiraNuna: actually skype is a little bit nasty, because it ignores the system theme and always uses its own08:11
TheSheepLiraNuna: unless you start it with a command-line option to not do that08:11
LiraNunathat's not my experience with it...08:12
TheSheepLiraNuna: if you open a termninal and type 'skype --help' it should show you the options08:12
TheSheepI don't have skype here to check, but it was something long and obvious08:12
nicekiwihow do i start xubuntu in commandline only? no Xserver running at all?08:12
LiraNunaI just migrated from 11.04 and skype was always respecting the theme there no matter what08:13
LiraNunano command line options or anything08:13
TheSheepnicekiwi: make the lightdm service not start at startup08:14
nicekiwiTheSheep, by removing it form grub onboot?08:15
TheSheepLiraNuna: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Skype#Skype_does_not_use_my_GTK_theme.2C_even_though_other_QT_apps_do08:16
LiraNunayeah I'm there08:16
nicekiwiTheDrums, how do I do that?08:16
LiraNunadoesn't seem to work08:16
LiraNunaanyway this doesn't seem like a xubuntu issue08:16
nicekiwiTheSheep, how do I do that?08:17
TheSheepnicekiwi: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting08:20
LiraNunaTheSheep, thank you for you help, by the way, very much appriciated08:21
TheSheepLiraNuna: then it must be some other problem, did you try other themes?08:24
LiraNunaTheSheep, I think I am getting it somewhere, I installed the 32bit Murrine theme engine and it seems to have changed to the win95-ish theme08:25
LiraNunanow it complains about not having pixmap08:25
LiraNunawhich I'm guessing is gtk2-engines-pixbuf:i38608:25
LiraNunabingo!08:26
LiraNunaTheSheep, are you a maintainer?08:26
TheSheepLiraNuna: no08:26
LiraNunaI'm only asking because of <TheSheep> glad you like it08:26
TheSheepLiraNuna: ah, so you have a 64 bit system, and skype is a 32 bit app and it is missing some gtk libraries, makes sense08:27
LiraNunayeah08:27
LiraNunawhere can I document this which will be available for people?08:27
LiraNunaaside from a random blog08:27
TheSheepLiraNuna: the ubuntu wiki perhaps, or forums, or ubuntu answers...08:28
LiraNunawell, it works fine on Ubuntu08:28
TheSheepprobably because ubuntu had all those libraries already installed for something else08:29
LiraNunaexactly08:29
TheSheepI think that you should actually report a bug on skype, so that the packagers can add those libraries as dependenices for the skype package08:29
LiraNunathat sounds like a good idea08:29
TheSheepnot sure what is the status of skype package though08:29
TheSheepit used to be in ubuntu-partners...08:30
TheSheepnow that Microsoft bought Skype, it's probably not...08:30
LiraNunabe surprised but Microsoft actually updated skype faster than skype did08:30
LiraNunaTheSheep, I'm trying to change the main menu using "Main Menu" and it seems like the top level is locked08:32
xubuntu681hello08:37
baizon!hi | xubuntu68108:42
ubottuxubuntu681: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!08:42
baizonLiraNuna: use the new version of alacarte :) it will work then08:43
LiraNunabaizon, can you elaborate? I have a fully updated Xubuntu 12.10; is there a PPA I should get it from?08:44
baizonLiraNuna: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alacarte08:53
baizonuse version 3.6.108:54
xubuntu681hello08:55
xubuntu681all?08:55
xubuntu681any body home?08:55
baizonxubuntu681: ?08:55
xubuntu681i have a question08:56
xubuntu681:)08:56
xubuntu681hmm, forget it08:57
xubuntu681:(08:58
baizonxubuntu681: you can afk if you wish09:00
LiraNunabaizon, I appreciate the help! how can I install it though? I can't see a deb/ppa/source anywhere09:00
baizonLiraNuna: you can, download the deb file: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/alacarte_3.6.1-0ubuntu2_all.deb09:01
baizonthen just install it09:01
LiraNunahow did you get to it?09:01
baizonand your fine09:01
baizonjust click on the triangle left of the package09:01
LiraNunaoh! I missed the .deb in there09:02
LiraNunathanks baizon09:02
baizonnp09:02
xubuntu681baizon; ok thanks.... :)09:05
AnkhwatcherThis laptop has two graphics cards and Xubuntu is only using the low-power one, is there a way to enable full support for the two of cards or should I just switch it to use the powerful one all the time?09:57
tomatopotatothere was something09:58
tomatopotatoi think tere is a way to use both09:58
AnkhwatcherI have the 310 beta nvidia driver installed09:59
tomatopotatoyou need to configure it in xorg.conf09:59
tomatopotatothat is as much as i know09:59
TheSheepAnkhwatcher: you might be interested in https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hybrid_graphics#The_New_Dynamic_Switching_Model10:04
TheSheepAnkhwatcher: (also links on that page)10:05
AnkhwatcherI was reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics but my laptop failed the first test10:10
AnkhwatcherThis is a Dell Studio XPS 13, so it's too old for Optimus10:12
Ankhwatcheroh wait, it was failing because it's written for an older config, once I switched it to 3.2 I get success10:17
Ankhwatcherthese instructions are confusing10:33
xubuntu906hi there12:32
xubuntu906i've got just one question12:32
knome!ask | xubuntu90612:32
ubottuxubuntu906: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:32
xubuntu906i can't find the startup disk creator in the xubuntu 12.10 release (the live iso12:32
xubuntu906is it removed in 12.1012:33
xubuntu906normally it's available in the live .iso12:33
nikolamwhen I have 2 firefox windows with multiple tabs open in 12.10 , and i click to switch to second one, bit I do not click on window , but inside window space, on empty menu bar space, I get cursor turning to "move window" state and window moves utill I click again13:04
knomei'd believe that's a known, i have it now and then on my laptop too13:05
nikolamnot sure if it is xfwm thing or firefox+xfwm or combination. It is nvidia proprietary driver installed13:05
nikolamok13:05
knomethat's never happened with other apps for me13:05
knomeand i have intel for the record13:05
nikolamknome, will to try with some other Wm on same box later13:06
nikolamOk, Alt+f2 opens application finder, and if i do errow down, it turns into the application finder.13:12
knomethat didn't make sense, "application finder turns into application finder"13:13
nikolamThat is nice, but I lost launch key (greyed) if I continue entering program name and file path to open.13:13
knomebut that's expected13:13
nikolamIt would also be nice to have "gksu launch this"13:14
nikolamoh, yes, application launcer turns into finder13:14
nikolamalo I lost command history on dwnarrow I got used to in application launcher13:15
nikolamcorrection, history IS there.13:15
nikolamjust if it expands, the it does not work anymore13:16
nikolamthunar still waits for up to 7 seconds to launch in 12.1013:18
v1adimirthere is a bit of a delay yea13:19
nikolamit is strange that open dialogue of leafpad, does not open directory contents in a open fie window, if path is gived in a search. (seems like path is missing)13:30
antismaphello13:37
antismapwhen i move a window to the top of the screen, it's automatically resized and talks the whole screen by the width13:38
antismaphow to disable that ?13:38
antismapit's very annoying :/13:38
TheSheepantismap: window manager tweaks in settings13:39
TheSheepantismap: "automatically tile windows..." in the accessibility tab13:39
antismapoh ! found it13:39
antismapthank you !13:39
AndreeeCZhello. I am trying to configure onboard audio on Asus P4S8X-X (AC'97). On cat /proc/asound/cards: --- no soundcards ---15:23
holsteini would run lspci and see.. i would run aplay -l and arecord -l15:24
holstein!sound15:24
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.15:24
AndreeeCZholstein, it propably doesnt see the card.. www.shorttext.com/MGfyUiFymX908dV15:27
holsteinAndreeeCZ: in the terminal.. aplay -l15:29
holsteinif you dont see the card, alsa wont use it15:29
AndreeeCZholstein, no soundcards found15:30
holsteinAndreeeCZ: i would apply upgrades... see if you have a kernel/alsa upgrade that supports the device.. i would check the bios or whatever means to see that the hardware is installed properly and working15:32
holsteinAndreeeCZ: i would try a few live CD's to see if different kernel/alsa version just pick it up automatically15:33
AndreeeCZholstein, ok i will again with a PCI X-Fi (i couldnt get it working either)15:33
holsteinAndreeeCZ: i would just put in a card.. that onboard sound wouldnt be anything i would waste too much time on15:34
lechu89hi! who can help me with my problem with xubuntu?15:45
lechu89I have problems during the system start-up15:45
holstein!ask | lechu8915:45
ubottulechu89: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:45
DonnieOk. Since I have a brandnew flashdrive with Xubuntu on it. And my computer is default set to book from flashdrive. But my Xubuntu broken drive won't let that happen. Should I "puppy" the pendrive, then disk utility format the harddrive I'm trying to install a fresh distro too?16:14
holsteini just load up the iso using unetbootin and install to whatever i want...16:15
holsteinif the computer wont boot the USB stick, it wont boot the usb stick... i would confirm the bios settings, and try booting again.. you should get to the USB stick before the internal hard drive, as far as booting goes16:16
DonnieMy computer is default to boot from usb16:16
holsteinDonnie: sure.. i would just confirm that.. since puppy or *anything* will need to boot from usb, and boot the same way16:17
holsteinif you are saying "the internal hard drive is preventing the usb stick from booting" that will be the case regardless of what stick or OS16:17
DonnieI do confirm that everytime. My computer is set to where when I instal a drive. I tells me at the bios what drives are installed and that it's set to boot in the order of Usb, hdd, cd16:18
holsteinDonnie: cool.. so how is the usb stick failing to boot?16:18
DonnieI don't have a clue. It only fails to boot when my linux harddrive is installed16:18
DonnieWhen I have my windows hard drive installed. It attempts to boot16:19
holsteinhow did you create the USB stick? have you tested it on another machine?16:19
holsteinDonnie: well, we can assume, if the bios settings are correct, it is "attempting" to boot regardless of the os16:19
DonnieEver since the xubuntu update. It's failed to move. I can't even mount it as a slave drive anymore because it wants to take over16:20
holsteinDonnie: if you want, unplug *all* hard drives.. get a USB stick booting.. and go from there.. then you can take the hard drivers out of the equation, since they should have no bearing on the issue16:20
holsteinDonnie: "it" wants to take over? take over what?16:20
DonnieWhen I instal my linux drive as a slave, and my windows drive as a master with slave present. The boot time takes over 2min. When it finally does boot to windows. The 'slave drive' is no longer present16:21
holsteinDonnie: sounds like bad hardware to me.. i would get a diagnostic live CD and test the drire16:22
holsteindrive*16:22
DonnieI don't use cd's anymore I don't even have a cd drive in my computer16:22
DonnieThat's what the usb is supposed to be for16:22
holsteinDonnie: sure.. a live diagnostic CD via usb or however you would like to test that hard drive16:22
holsteinsomething like http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html ..when i sayd "cd" i just mean an iso you can choose to boot as you please.. via USB or whatever16:23
DonnieI'm gonna go ntfs format on the thumbdrive, install puppy. Put the linux drive back in. And if they load fine. Use the puppy to wipe the linux drive and make it all new again16:23
holsteinsure.. enjoy!16:24
DonnieWell this is a  brand new thumbdrive... And it's never done this at all till that update that wiped the drive16:24
DonnieIt refuses to go past network connections16:24
holsteinthe drive is not mounting though.. sounds like bad hardware to me16:25
holsteini would run diagnostics on the hard drive16:25
DonnieIt could be. But then why did it happen right directly after an update and a restart?16:26
holsteincould also be "during/after a system upgrade, a hard drive failed"16:26
drcguess he's impatient :)16:26
holsteinin case someone is following.. it could be because the hard drive was failing and a lot of system files were being written at that time.. where maybe normal use didnt have such an impact16:27
holsteinyeah.. too impatent to test the hard drive.. i usually do that to save some time in the long run, then i know al is well (or not)16:28
drcWonder if he "install xubuntu" to the usb stick or merely "burnt" the iso to a usb?  Master/slave sounds like an "install" and old ide drives.16:28
drcoh well16:29
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MontyXubuntumy steam wount launch17:12
MontyXubuntuit worked yesteeday17:12
Tethtibishave you tried adding coal? perhaps your burner isn't hot enough to allow the steam to heat. :O)17:12
MontyXubunturofl17:13
Tethtibisare you using wine, or have a beta key?17:13
drcAnd you might want to try #ubuntu-steam17:13
MontyXubuntuneather i downloaded it and installed it and sidestepped it kicking me out17:14
Tethtibis...... the windows version?17:14
MontyXubuntuno linux version17:15
Tethtibishonestly, I had no idea that you could just download the linux version without explicit beta access. I have no idea how to help you, as I've had no experience in the matter, I apologize.17:16
bazhang!steam | MontyXubuntu17:17
ubottuMontyXubuntu: Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their devlopment, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.17:17
MontyXubuntuhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/reddit-users-bypass-valve-linux-beta-invitations17:18
Tethtibis*facepalm*17:18
drcagain #ubuntu-steam might have more specialized knowledge of problems with this.17:18
drcbut I see you're already there:)17:22
superbootAnything special about running gconf-editor on xubuntu(xfce)?17:47
superbootJust a: sudo apt-get install gconf-editor?17:48
superbootI've installed that and Nautilus, and Nautilus doesn't appear in gconf-editor. Any hints?17:48
PhoenixSTFHey guys, I am having a bit of trouble on xfce using samba shares17:48
PhoenixSTFwhen i move a file from one folder to another (drag and drop) it actually uses my pc to Move instead of just move on the server17:49
superbootI only say this because i've had much success with NFS, but you should realy look into it if you can afford to move away from SAMBA. However I understand sometimes we gotta do what we gotta do. Hopefully someone will respond who knows SAMBA. If not, try ##linux, since a SAMBA question is general linux.17:53
superbootPhoenixSTF: To you.17:54
LiraNunaevery time I log out, my mouse cursor gets twice as big. Anyone else is getting that issue?17:55
superbootHmmm... not me.17:56
Darwinspanish ?17:56
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PhoenixSTFsuperboot, but a file move inside the server with nfs does it goes thruu your pc or is it server internally only?17:58
superbootPhoenixSTF: I'm quite sure it is just on the server, although now you have me quessing. let me check.18:01
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superbootPhoenixSTF: Yes, I just moved a 2GB file in less than a half a second, so I'm sure it wasn't pulling it local and pushing back.18:07
koegsit will be moved on the server only, if possible18:07
koegse.g. same partition18:08
PhoenixSTFsuperboot, so inteligent network folders only in NFS?18:08
superbootPhoenixSTF: As I said, I don't have experiance with SAMBA, but NFS gives you both that and full file permissions, and host-based export.18:10
PhoenixSTFsuperboot, thanks :)18:10
superbootPhoenixSTF: Let me know if you need help setting it up. :)18:10
superbootNFS that is18:10
PhoenixSTFsuperboot, oh it only takes a bit of reading ;)18:11
superbootyeah. For whatever reason, the online guides seem to make it harder than it has to be. But if you understand the relationship between mounts and mount points, you've got it.18:11
well_laid_lawnthere's quite a few options when exporting files too18:12
well_laid_lawn http://linux-nfs.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page18:14
unrarhi18:14
LiraNunaAnyone gets a giant mouse cursor when hovering certain elements?18:29
mahmoud__I have Java installed18:46
mahmoud__but I don't know how to run .jar files.18:46
mahmoud__Anyone can help with that?18:47
Unit193Should be java -jar file.jar  from the terminal, or chmod+x and double click.18:47
mahmoud__Unit193, thanks I tried the cl but an error showed up Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.awt.HeadlessException18:50
well_laid_lawnsounds like it ran and the app failed18:51
Unit193Sounds like that to me.18:52
Unit193You able to say what program?18:52
mahmoud__It's a setup ui application for18:56
mahmoud__LibGDX18:56
mahmoud__http://libgdx.badlogicgames.com/ Unit19318:57
Unit193java -jar gdx-setup-ui.jar  worked fine here.19:00
mahmoud__oh!19:02
mahmoud__Any idea what can be wrong?19:03
Unit193http://pastebin.com/F8Ye9zft  should be all the java packages I have, take note of openjdk-7-jre-headless19:05
mahmoud__Guys, how to move the upside panel to the bottom of the desktop?19:34
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anjomdboua noite a todos...........20:21
katsunehey, anyone experienced muffled sound with xubuntu 12.10?20:38
katsunehey guys, anyone experienced a muffled sound in xubuntu 12.1020:52
katsune?20:52
nikolamAnyone used next3 filesystem (ext3 with snapshots) with some ubuntu version22:05
nikolamI wonder if i can set it up as root file system22:05
nikolamso that I can both have snapshots and Dual-boot windows can use Linux partitioin for multimedia storage22:05
nikolam(there are ext3 drivers for windows)22:05
Simooonnikolam, If you can choose it under the installation I guess it should work...22:14
nikolamSimooon, choose? I was thinking of adding it after instalaltion as module or something. I wasn't thinking about re-making install cd.22:15
nikolamBut, it could be done I suppose22:15
Simooonnikolam, I don't know the filesystem, I just thought that would be the easiest way, but I have no idea if it is there on a default installation image.22:17
nikolamSimooon, no it is not.22:19
Simooonnikolam, ok I guess i can't be of much help then :-P22:20
Simooon*I22:20
nikolam:P Simooon22:21
MaccerI can't seem to get screenshooter to copy its screenshot into the clipboard, or at least it's not recognized by any program or imgur. Anyone know why?23:56

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