[03:55] Helloooo [03:55] * TaraLS waves. [03:55] I have an update [03:55] Ironically, involving updates. [03:58] superfly: *wave* [03:59] inetpro: confluency *wave* [04:01] So, I saw that my computer's 'cores' (They actually say 'core 0' and 'core 1' on Hardware Sensor Detector) were getting up to 53c and showing a red bar for super-hot when I was trying to convert URL from Youtube into MP4 on VLC. [04:02] That was in normal, installed-Ubuntu mode. So I got the hardware detector on Live-Ubuntu to see if maybe the temperatures weren't getting as high in live mode. [04:02] I managed to convert a vdeo without it freezing, and then I went to convert another one, left my comp on the ubuntu Live desktop while I waited for the conversion to finish, and the comp froze. [04:03] Only now have I remembered that, in order to get hardware sensor detector, you have to do a 'sudo get-update' on terminal. [04:03] That's the only thing I did differently between using Live this time, and using Live for that full day where the comp didn't freeze. [04:03] I got Hardware Sensor Detector and used 'sudo apt-get update' [04:03] So... Update-related? [05:11] hi TaraLS and others [05:11] whats news [05:12] our power off from around 8 [05:12] More oom Kilos [05:12] Sjoe hoekom is die krag so baie af daar ? [05:13] môre mazal [05:13] hulle bou nuwe lyne met drade vertikaal [05:14] moeielikker om uit te short en steel as dit getrip het [05:14] Ah ok [05:14] Ek gaan ook stil wees vandag , het baie veld werk saam kontrakteur [05:14] ah [05:16] hiya kbmonkey gonna rain [05:16] Morning kbmonkey [05:17] ty for helping my brat last night you guys [05:18] oh my goodness [05:18] hiya nlsthzn [05:18] good to see you again so soon [05:19] hi Kilos [05:19] hi psydroid [05:19] hi nlsthzn [05:19] Alo uncle Kilos ... quick change to night shift so off for a few hours now :) [05:19] alo psydroid [05:19] hi mazal and kbmonkey [05:19] ah ok [05:20] you guys wake up earlier and earlier [05:20] hehe [05:20] methinks everyone wants to know if the brats pc froze again [05:21] Maaz, tell superfly good morning have a good day. see you when power returns [05:21] Kilos: Got it, I'll tell superfly on freenode [05:24] psydroid, I have no choice , start to work at 6:45 hehehehe [05:25] mazal, wow, that's early [05:25] hi drussell [05:25] psydroid: yo! [05:26] Morning psydroid [05:26] hi deegee [05:26] got mail from brat http://slexy.org/view/s2bHsniKDI [05:27] pc freezes from live too after doing apt-get update [05:27] so might be that other thing [05:27] regreshion [05:27] regresion [05:28] What means regresion ? [05:28] if she comes on while im ofline tell her there is a way to lock updates and use whats installed from cd [05:28] just need to know which one [05:29] mazal, im not sure but had it once before and locked that app in synaptic [05:29] the cd version runs but first update brings a bug with [05:33] regressions they require to fix bugs methinks [05:33] get high priority [05:33] not so drussell [05:36] she will just need help to get the logs while running live. i dunno how that gonna work but anyway. [05:38] so once that prob app is identified it can be locked to current version in synaptic [05:38] after a clean install [05:38] hehe she will cry [05:39] hehehehe [05:39] At least we now know what to look for hey [05:40] For great success... just played a game of TF2 on Steam for linux... weeeeeeee [05:40] its something that comes with first update/upgrade [05:41] steam sounds good nlsthzn they getting more and more games for us [05:42] Yup... since Valve ported steam I have heard of so many other companies planning on porting... finally :) [05:42] yay thats good news [05:42] was linuxes weak point gaming [05:44] hmm the monkey battling [05:52] Good morning Linux people [05:53] hi barrydk [05:54] How are you that side [05:56] Lo B [05:57] More w [05:59] all good ty and there [05:59] power off anytime now [05:59] sigh [05:59] Ai that's frustrating Kilos [05:59] . [05:59] superfly: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell superfly good morning have a good day. see you when power returns" 38 minutes and 14 seconds ago [06:00] ya [06:00] hi Kilos [06:00] yo mazal! [06:00] hi superfly [06:00] hello, barrydk [06:00] Monrning superfly [06:00] http://slexy.org/view/s2bHsniKDI [06:01] regression superfly [06:01] no worry now [06:01] have a good day all of you. gonna be 36°c here [06:02] Lekker dag oom Kilos [06:02] dankie seun [06:02] will stay till power goes [06:10] More Superfly [06:10] goeie more Kilos [06:11] oh and hi TaraLS [06:11] hiya inetpro [06:11] Get a genertor Kilos [06:11] eish [06:11] kos pond [06:12] but once they have made the lines more thief proof it will be better [06:13] they steal like 200 metres at at time [06:13] Im also thinking in that direction. My bill for last month was 3k. I'm tired of escom ripping me off. I use the same equipment lst month and the previous month and my bill increased with a thousand bucks [06:14] throw cahin over all three wires and that trips it at power station the quickly cut them off [06:14] wow [06:14] complain [06:15] s/cahin/chain [06:15] is that right inetpro [06:15] Kilos: I don't know how they do it [06:16] We did and they said it is correct. I think i'm paying for a lot of people who dont [06:16] no man the spelling repair [06:16] o [06:16] Kilos: s/cahin/chain/s [06:16] hehe ek sukkel met my volk [06:16] oops [06:16] oh my [06:16] Kilos: s/cahin/chain/ [06:16] nog 'n slash aan die einde [06:17] Probeer afrikaans [06:17] ok ok will try member ty sir [06:17] ketting [06:17] lol [06:17] eskom says it must touch all three wires to trip it [06:17] Kilos: gaan help daai ouens dat hulle jou krag gou weer kan aansit [06:18] so vertical is an option to try stop them [06:18] lol hulle nie haastig nie. selle pay einde van die maand [06:18] ai [06:19] sê vir hulle jy verloor besigheid [06:19] dis nie aanvaarbaar nie [06:19] lol [06:19] so baie kere af [06:19] hulle voel vere [06:19] the brat must be asleep. got bad flu [06:20] and pc stress dont help [06:20] they both had swine flu coupla years back [06:22] and im not a pork fan. so musta been blind when young [06:23] see they said 8 am but still got power [06:25] Kilos: talk to the Mayoral Spokesperson in the City of Tshwane [06:25] https://twitter.com/pieter_denecker [06:25] he will say its work that needs to be done to curb theft [06:26] they getting it done at least , dunno how far to go still [06:26] copper theft is serious [06:26] very [06:26] there power gone. have a good day all [06:27] bye Kilos [06:27] Bye Kilos [06:59] TaraLS: apt-get update doesn't change anything on your system -- it just fetches information about what packages are available. ("upgrade" is the command for upgrading all the packages). [07:00] TaraLS: my current working theory is that your computer overheats, and it's just a coincidence that it didn't overheat that one time on Live. [07:00] I vaguely remember my old desktop freezing because of overheating. [07:00] OMG, dude. Did you say someone put in a new hard drive for you? [07:01] I think my desktop started having heat problems because of the arrangement of the hard drives and how close together they were. [07:03] TaraLS: new debugging plan: run your desktop with the case off, and see if it freezes. If it freezes, feel around the hard drives (and various other places) to see if they're getting hot. Maybe try positioning the drives differently in the case. Maybe get additional fans and put them near the drives. I think I eventually fixed my problem by getting more fans. [07:06] If you have a big desk fan in your house, you could try running with the case off and the fan pointed into the computer, to see if that prevents freezes. Having the case off might help the heat to dissipate enough by itself, though -- I think it did in my case. [07:09] could install lmsensors to check temps... [07:10] confluency, nlsthzn: we've gone there [07:10] that's why she's able to check the temperature [07:11] kk, sorry I am not up to speed... was just commenting about the posts above mine :p [07:11] np [07:11] I would seriously recommend the physical hardware sensor called no case + fingers. ;) [07:12] confluency: she's even done that [07:12] Still crashes? No obvious hot areas? [07:13] Well, at least now that it's happened on all OSes it looks more like a hardware issue. [07:16] * inetpro agrees that it seems like a hardware issue [07:16] memtest ran? [07:16] but what exactly, I don't know [07:18] nlsthzn: not 100% sure about the memory test but she's even tried stresslinux [07:19] and if I remember correctly that ran for hours without hanging [07:19] well I would suggest running memtest86 for random system lockups... [07:19] * nlsthzn doesn't know stress linux [07:19] me neither [07:19] knows stress by linux but that is something else [07:20] :-) [07:54] haai [07:56] wb Vince-0 [07:56] you still at sea? [07:56] ha no [07:56] at work [07:58] ahh ok [08:15] * TaraLS grumbles. [08:18] confluency: Hard drive case has been off for about a week (one side, anyway). Desk fan has been on it for twoish days, which took my motherboard temp down from 43c to 32c in about ten minutes. I have not changed this setup. My computer was blue-screening and freezing even when I had my previous HDD. [08:18] confluency: I was thinking that maybe it was overheating in HDD mode but not Live mode for some reason, which is why I go tthe sensors. The sensors read the same temps in Live mode. Now that I know this, I'm not going to get Hardware Sensors or do any apt-get upgrade/update. I managed to convert one video successfully just now and have got the second one going - and I did this without getting the hardware sensors. We will see what [08:20] confluency: Ah. Well. It just froze.... Heh. I guess I'll just take it to the shop and hope they can fix it. My fear is "It's fixed! Pay up!" And I do, and then I get it home and it freezes. [08:22] aaargh! stupid nick === Vince-0_ is now known as Vince-0 [08:26] Vince-0: you can kill the ghost before it times out and disconnects itself [08:27] I used the ghost command [08:28] ahh, ok [08:28] sometimes this dsl flaps [08:28] like a leaf in the frikin wind [08:28] sounds worse than wireless [08:38] the copper in this place is corroded [08:39] and Telkom says its because its the coast [08:58] Vince-0, where is this "the coast"? [08:58] Dirtbin [09:01] (Durban) [09:22] boem boem [09:22] i love that sound [09:22] hiya maiatoday [09:22] hi Kilos [09:24] * Kilos greets everyone else. power has returned early w000t [09:28] I was trying again to convert that second video in live mode, and got this screen: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/Krice_Verta/phpRhKHMgAM.jpg [09:29] inetpro, superfly nuvolari and whoever else has ideas please think about stuff to add to our re-approval page. [09:29] lo TaraLS [09:29] Kilos: Yo. [09:29] mailed you some [09:30] oh my that ugly [09:30] you on live again TaraLS ? [09:31] I was. Computer is off now. [09:31] switched off or dead off [09:31] I switched it off [09:31] whew [09:31] If it was dead, I'd say that it's dead. [09:31] hows the flu brat\ [09:31] Horrible. [09:32] stay strong [09:32] lotsa onion [09:32] on sarmies and all [09:32] raw [09:33] hmm family advice column on ubuntu-za [09:33] * Kilos hides [09:33] * TaraLS goes back to sleep, to dream of better days, when her computer actually friggn; worked with no friggin' issues. [09:34] leep loose [09:34] later [09:34] we will get there [09:35] * TaraLS waves. And mopes. [09:37] confluency, ty for the help last night , was nice to see you involved again [09:39] Maaz, coffee on [09:39] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [09:39] Maaz, large [09:39] In a beer mug just for you Kilos [09:39] Maaz, botsnack [09:39] What do you want Kilos Trying to butter me up or something? [09:39] hmm [09:43] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [09:43] Maaz, danke [09:43] Bitteschön [10:24] maaz sprecht deutsch? [10:24] Banlam: What? [10:25] yo Banlam hoezit [10:25] hoezit mah bru [10:25] cool en daar [10:25] HI oom Kilos. Banlam verstaan nie meer hierdie hoezit taal nie [10:26] rofl [10:26] lol, my china whatchu saying? [10:26] should be rovl [10:26] kilos, no complaints [10:26] good [10:26] Banlam tab complete duidelik nie [10:26] nee [10:27] ek tik vinniger as die tab complete [10:27] en kilos is so n kort naam [10:27] pif leuens [10:27] wie kort n hoofletter [10:27] wel mentions kor die hoofletter [10:27] leuenes [10:27] leuens [10:27] lol [10:27] net in slegte clients [10:28] kan ek myself highlight? [10:28] banlam [10:28] Banlam [10:28] lo bakuman [10:28] nee ek kan nie [10:28] banlam [10:28] highglighted [10:29] http://imgur.com/7lBtS [10:31] * bakuman also has photoshop [10:31] lo Vince-0 i see you following us on the twit place now [10:31] what a loafer. irc + facebook + reddit [10:31] hahaha [10:32] Kilos, yep! And G+ which is my primary social network [10:32] 40 seconds to photoshop and upload [10:32] if i had skillz like that [10:32] bakuman, en thesis! [10:33] there are only messages related to #ubuntu-za posted there such as meetings etc [11:15] hi magespawn [11:48] hey clever okeys how do i make an xp install see a sata drive [11:49] weird because millenium and 98 and win7 see it [11:49] xp says Setup did not find any hard disk drives installed on your computer [11:49] grrr [11:50] dont tell me to go to a windows channel [11:50] that would be below the belt [11:52] hey Kilos [11:52] hows things magespawn [11:52] windows xp needs drivers to be installed to see the the sata drive [11:52] good and you [11:53] oh ya that rat poison be kiff because neither the cat or dogs die after eating dead rats [11:53] there is a section during the setup where the win xp asks if you want to install 3rd party sata drivers [11:54] oh my how do you install drivers to a xp cd or a clean drive [11:54] oh [11:54] seen that ja [11:54] whew [11:54] there is also a way to make a windows install disk with the sata drivers included but i forget how [11:54] np if that third party thing works thats good ty magespawn [11:54] will try it [11:55] np [11:55] had me baffled cause the others see the drive [11:55] stupid ms [11:57] still not sure why they do that? [12:00] lol i hit the f6 when it said but dunno if it still going to decide [12:01] really had me boggled. tried 3 different cds [12:01] hehe [12:03] eish now it asks for the device maufacturer disk to be put in [12:03] grrr [12:04] other option is going somewhere [12:05] all good there magespawn ? [12:06] yup Kilos [12:06] maybe you can get the drivers from the manufacturers websit [12:06] website evne [12:06] oui [12:08] lol how do you install a driver before you even install the os [12:08] lol [12:09] nope that option didnt work [12:09] grrrr [12:12] need to find out from ian i think he used an ide/sata adapter in an ide slot [12:13] everyday ones sees more of how bad ms actually is [12:14] was is and always will be [12:15] arme ms :) [12:15] hey mazal [12:15] did not see you lurking there [12:15] Hey guys [12:15] i hate them but other peeps need it to be able to do their work [12:16] New router in , so now have proper inet at work again [12:16] lekker [12:16] awesome [12:17] No more sharing 1mb line with 200 pc's [12:17] mazal what speed you running there? [12:17] great [12:18] Work line is 1mb , our "private" one is 384k , but the 384k is only me and Barry's laptop on it so is way better than the other one [12:18] lol thats good [12:18] 384k works fine [12:18] its like good 3g [12:18] i usually have a 1 meg to myself unless there are people in the internet cafe [12:18] spoilt magespawn [12:19] indeed and am looking in to getting the 2 meg upgrade [12:19] whew [12:19] * magespawn must have more speed [12:19] more and more\ [12:20] i dunno if there is fibre up to hulehule [12:20] This 384 is a smokkeled one hehehehehe [12:20] but if there is try get them to run fibre to you [12:20] haha [12:21] thinking of bonding multiple lines [12:22] that might help magespawn ask Symmetria [12:23] it does you bond say two 4 meg line and get 8 meg but you also double your upload rate, which is actually what i want [12:24] mazal where do you work? if it is okay to ask [12:25] Zonderwater oom [12:25] Cullinan [12:25] Ag , sorry magespawn , thought it was Kilo's asking lol [12:26] We are about 40km east of PTA [12:26] no worries, but I meant the company [12:26] Correctional Services [12:32] ohh okay that is unexpected [12:37] lol [12:37] why [12:39] How so magespawn ? [12:41] i always tend to forget that people who come here are from all over [12:42] yip even geeks [12:43] fortunately hes not inside [12:43] Yeah , on the right side of the bars at least lol [12:44] hmm... who knows? [12:44] will tell you a story one day [12:44] lo inetpro [12:44] lol [12:44] wb Kilos [12:45] ty [12:45] one should tell govt depts to use motivating tactics [12:45] when work done you can go home [12:45] i like that idea [12:45] ive seens miracles under those conditions [12:46] unfortunately if you work with id10t's the work doesn't get done [12:46] like trench digging peeps do what normally takes 3 days before 3pm [12:48] ja and when the wisstle blows they leave the tools hanging in the air [12:48] motivation is the name of the game [12:48] lol [12:48] dit storm hier inetpro [12:48] of net oor na kerk straat se kant [12:50] Kilos then I won't be able to go home , doing 5 peoples work :( [12:50] that is how the pineapple farmers work here [12:50] lol @ magespawn [12:50] task work ya [12:51] task done and tools away bye [12:51] only cant work with IT stuff methinks [12:52] gtg , will see maybe tomorrow or maybe later [12:52] If I look at the weather it will be tommorrow [12:52] Enjoy your evening gents [12:53] cheers mazal [12:53] Lekker slaap almal gaan ook nou bietjie by die huis werk [12:53] Kilos i am busy checking all the ide drives i have lying around [12:53] later barrydk [12:53] mooi loop maz [12:54] jy ook barrydk [12:54] exciting magespawn [12:54] i love playing with drives othewrs have scrapped [12:54] some are pretty small storage [12:55] lol like 2g [12:55] yup [12:55] got some here from ian too [12:55] not worth worry about methinks [12:55] but fun to play with [12:56] only no good using linux to zero because you cant install to it [12:56] usuful for back ups and for storing the viruses that i find [12:56] why you storing virii [12:57] i wanted to see if i could reverse engineer them [12:57] KOM groot reen [12:57] ah [12:57] you aint got time [12:58]