| toabctl | stgraber, I recognized that you implemented a dconf bridge for upstart. what's the reason for that? | 06:00 |
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| xnox | toabctl: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/upstart-devel/2012-November/001987.html | 09:22 |
| toabctl | xnox, so user session daemon should be started when a dconf key changes, right? | 09:25 |
| toabctl | that's a possible usecase? | 09:25 |
| xnox | toabctl: no. | 09:25 |
| xnox | toabctl: well yes. | 09:25 |
| xnox | toabctl: e.g. upstart runs the use session, and user jobs can listen to dconf events and do start on stop on. | 09:26 |
| xnox | etc. | 09:26 |
| toabctl | ok | 09:27 |
| xnox | toabctl: so yes =)))) but it's for any dconf events. | 09:27 |
| xnox | s/use/user/ | 09:27 |
| toabctl | sure | 09:27 |
| toabctl | what about other daemons? eg NetworkManager? | 09:28 |
| toabctl | maybe you want to start a job when NetworkManager sends an event. | 09:28 |
| toabctl | eg a firewall script, ... | 09:28 |
| jodh | toabctl: we already emit net-device-up and net-device-down. See upstart-events(7) | 09:29 |
| jodh | toabctl: that said, we could expand the variables set in those events to include things like ESSID say. | 09:29 |
| toabctl | jodh, but more detailed events. eg "vpn-connected" | 09:29 |
| jodh | toabctl: please raise a bug so we can consider it | 09:30 |
| toabctl | jodh, I don't need this. I just want to get a picture where the border between upstart and other system daemons is | 09:31 |
| toabctl | I guess you could build a bridge between every system daemon and upstart which has something like signals/event and map that to upstart jobs/tasks | 09:31 |
| jodh | toabctl: any system facility is free to emit upstart events. We're trying to add events where appropriate to allow jobs to react in the most efficient manner to system state changes. | 09:32 |
| jodh | toabctl: yes, but we don't want hundreds of bridges running. We are planning dconf, temporal events (a la cron), inotify events for file changes and a generic dbus bridge would probably give user 99% of what they need | 09:33 |
| toabctl | jodh, sounds good. | 09:34 |
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