[00:40] <xubuntu192> hi
[00:40] <Unit193> !hi
[00:40] <Glink> i need help mk desktop and pannels are crashing
[01:02] <Glink> i need help
[01:02] <Glink> my desktop in my session guives this error:
[01:02] <Glink> glink@glink-M7X0SUN:~$ xfdesktop  (xfdesktop:6054): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_file_get_path: assertion `G_IS_FILE (file)' failed  (xfdesktop:6054): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_file_get_path: assertion `G_IS_FILE (file)' failed Falha de segmentação (core dumped)
[01:59] <innmalint> I'm having difficulties with my bootloader; I guess a good starting point would be to ask what bootloader Xubuntu uses? I'm trying to get a GRUB or GRUB2 menu to show my windows HDD upon startup.
[02:00] <bazhang> grub2
[02:00] <well_laid_lawn> innmalint: xubuntu uses grub2 and you should hold down the shift key during boot to have the menu show
[02:01] <innmalint> Thanks! I couldn't find a direct answer. I
[02:02] <innmalint> *I'm sure there's a way to change that configuration, off to Google. Am I right in guessing there is a config file to edit in order to get the menu by default?
[02:03] <well_laid_lawn> !grub
[03:54] <Maccer> Can someone verify for me? Can anyone take a screenshot and save it to clipboard and then paste it to a site like imgur.com or application like GIMP? I sure can't without selecting the screenshot in clipman.
[03:56] <MrHotsauce> Maccer: in the latest version of xubuntu you can simply press the print screen button and a dialog should show up select the "copy yo clipboard" bubble and you should be good to go
[03:56] <MrHotsauce> to*
[03:59] <Maccer> MrHotsauce: Yes I realize, but no parsable data is being copied to it. Imgur says I'm using an incorrect format until I use clipman to select it. Gimp and other applications hang as they attempt to paste the screenshot.
[04:02] <MrHotsauce> hm thats strange....i dont really know how you would fix that mine seems to work fine =\
[04:19] <Maccer> Yeah... this is odd, my screenshots only paste if the screenshooter is running.
[04:49] <unheeding> I installed KDE, and now the KDE GTK settings override the Xfce appearance settings, can anyone help me?
[04:49] <holstein> unheeding: maybe some apps start with qt prefs?.. you want to purge the KDE stuff? or theme it?
[04:50] <unheeding> I want to use a different theme in Xfce than what is specified by KDE Settings
[04:50] <unheeding> changing the "Style" under appearance in Xfce settings does nothing
[04:50] <holstein> unheeding: the kde apps will probably look "funny"
[04:51] <unheeding> but if I change the GTK setting in KDE Preferences, it overrides my Xfce preferences
[04:51] <unheeding> even when i log out of kde and switch to xfce
[04:53] <holstein> unheeding: i would expect "issues"
[04:53] <holstein> unheeding: i might look at something that ships both and does a good job with it.. see how they address it
[04:56] <holstein> unheeding: i typically just install the few kde apps i need and deal with it... im not a big "asthetics" person though
[04:57] <unheeding> i just want to use different themes for GTK apps in KDE and xfce
[04:57] <holstein> unheeding: maybe something like https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_Look_for_Qt_and_GTK_Applications ..maybe we have something like that for ubuntu
[04:57] <holstein> unheeding: sure... im just not sure why changing them isnt working for you
[05:01] <unheeding> oh well... thanks for your help holstein
[05:01] <unheeding> i think i'm just going to nuke it
[05:05] <holstein> i would just try applying some themes and see what happens
[05:05] <holstein> take some screenshots
[05:06] <holstein> its challenging, since you are so far outside the default supported range of the software
[05:06] <holstein> im sure there is a way, but it would be "easy"
[05:06] <unheeding> yeah everything works perfectly for kde
[05:07] <unheeding> i just wish that i could get everything to play nice with one another
[05:07] <holstein> and you can... but it'll require somre research and patience
[05:07] <unheeding> like i'd love to have KDE/GNOME/MATE/Cinnamon/Xfce/Lxde/Windowmaker all without conflicting with each other
[05:08] <holstein> i would take screenies and post them ...im still not wure what the deal is
[05:08] <unheeding> i should start a SUPERbuntu
[05:08] <holstein> there is a project.
[05:09] <holstein> i'll link it.. thats what i was talking about.. just look at someone who is already doing what you are trying to do
[05:09] <holstein> http://www.hybryde.org/
[05:10] <holstein> Kde, Gnome3, Unity, E17, XFCE, LXDE, OPENBOX et FVWM
[05:10] <holstein> should give you an idea of how they are dealing with the asthetics..
[07:49] <nyRednek> well, finished my dressing for thanksgiving
[09:17] <Atamira> darn it
[09:17] <Atamira> why cant i move the items on my taskbar? they seem stuck even tho i have unlocked the panel options
[09:19] <knome> unlocking the panel doesn't affect that. right-click and select move to move items
[09:19] <Atamira> yeah, tried, that
[09:19] <Atamira> not working either
[09:20] <Transfusion> alt-right click
[09:20] <Atamira> does what? doesnt seem to do anything on my side Transfusion
[09:21] <Atamira> i just want to move that item ie my clock to the other side of the taskbar..and it wont move
[09:23] <knome> Atamira, after selecting move, drag and drop
[09:23] <Atamira> i can move it between taskbars..from 1 to 2..but i cant move it along the task bar for some reason
[09:23] <Atamira> maybe its a group thing..mmm
[09:26] <knome> Atamira, what version of xubuntu are you using?
[09:26] <Atamira> 12.10
[09:26] <Atamira> updated it this afternoon
[09:27] <knome> Atamira, ok. you can always right-click the panel, select panel -> panel preferences and in the items tab, reorder the panel applets  (just pick the panel you want to edit from the dropdown box at the top first!)
[09:28] <Atamira> yes ive done that. but i want the clock in the right hand cover..right now they are all clumped together on the left hand side with this big open space on the right hand side
[09:29] <knome> right. then you need to add a separator to the left
[09:29] <knome> and make it expand
[09:29] <Atamira> the separator?
[09:29] <knome> or separator left to the clock
[09:29] <knome> yes, the separator
[09:31] <Atamira> oh that works..great !
[09:31] <Atamira> can you limit or adjust the size of that separator?
[09:31] <knome> not really
[09:32] <knome> but you can add other expanding separators... but not sure if that's what you want
[09:32] <Atamira> no its not, but its ok. its looking the way i want it to now, t hanks
[09:32] <Atamira> didnt know you could expand the separators
[09:32] <knome> no problem
[09:33] <knome> i suppose it's confusing especially for new users who accidentally remove the separator
[09:34] <Atamira> only new to xfce. normally i use gnome
[10:43] <ablomen_oops> Hey, since the new version of xubuntu, my bookmarks in thunar, are different from those in for example gedit. I presume this means xfce uses it's own system for this now, but is there a way to link these two together?
[10:43] <ablomen_oops> (with bookmarks i mean folders dragged into the sidebar of thunar, same with the document open dialog in gedit etc)
[11:14] <habib> hey everyone. just installed xubuntu and for few hours ubuntu software center worked ok. but now install button just doesnt work. Can anyone help?
[11:16] <habib> hallo
[11:16] <TheSheep> "doesn't work"?
[11:16] <habib> yeah
[11:16] <habib> i click it and it doesn't respond
[11:16] <TheSheep> !doesn't work
[11:16] <habib> but the software center is still working
[11:17] <habib> as i said doewn't work only button install
[11:17] <habib> i click it and it just doesn't respond
[11:17] <TheSheep> I have no idea what you mean
[11:17] <TheSheep> is it grayed out?
[11:17] <habib> yes
[11:17] <habib> it isn't active
[11:18] <knome> isn't those applications installed?
[11:18] <habib> no it isn't
[11:18] <habib> for example
[11:18] <habib> i type in "chromium"
[11:18] <TheSheep> is it already installing something now?
[11:18] <habib> and it gives out list of programs
[11:18] <habib> no it isn't installing
[11:19] <habib> i click to install button infront of chromium and it just doesn't respond
[11:19] <TheSheep> habib: can you start the software-center from a terminal and see if it shows any errors in there?
[11:20] <habib> i tried to launch it from term : sudo software-center
[11:22] <habib> and it gave me this: http://pastebin.com/k4Hy7gXV
[11:24] <habib> and even if i download something  .deb like, and launch it, software center opens and "install" button still doesn't respond
[11:24] <TheSheep> habib: are you doing updates right now?
[11:25] <habib> i allready did
[11:25] <habib> and id done
[11:25] <habib> it done
[11:26] <habib> lat's say i've just updated
[11:27] <TheSheep> updates also count as installing new software, and while they run, you cannot install anything else
[11:28] <habib> but if it's done?
[11:29] <habib> the update
[11:29] <TheSheep> try it now
[11:29] <habib> afk
[11:39] <habib> back
[11:39] <habib> i'll try to reload
[11:49] <habib> i've reloade pc and software center still doesn't give respond when i clik install
[11:49] <djtf> What are you trying to install?
[11:50] <habib> chromium or java
[11:51] <habib> different programs only to get it working
[11:51] <bazhang> !info chromium-browser
[11:52] <bazhang> habib, ^
[11:52] <habib> yeah?
[11:53] <bazhang> see above
[11:53] <bazhang> !java | habib
[12:05] <habib> i'm trying other programs
[12:06] <habib> still doesn't work
[12:10] <bazhang> habib, install from ubuntu repos, not from some random 3rd party site
[12:10] <bazhang> habib, I just told you the correct package name to install
[12:10] <bazhang> habib, and gave you  a link to read on installing java. Please read it.
[12:11] <bazhang> habib, chromium-browser    <---------- the package name
[12:11] <habib> how to set correct repos then?
[12:11] <habib> thnx
[12:12] <bazhang> in the package manager
[12:12] <habib> oh come on)) i'm third week in xubuntu)
[12:13] <bazhang> habib, then you should read some links on basic ubuntu usage
[12:13] <bazhang> !repos | habib
[12:13] <bazhang> !software | habib
[12:14] <bazhang> habib, you should read those, then try to do what I have advised in respect to chromium-browser and java
[12:17] <Atamira> ok odd. i loaded a cd to play earlier, and now i end up with two icons. one of the actual disc, and one that says its the disk but its empty and yet will open and close my dvd player . even tho there is nothing in the dvd player
[12:34] <habib> ok bazhang look. what if i install xubuntu with correct internet connection and first time software center worked ok. then xubuntu checked for updates, installed it, and then software center stoped to work? I can chose any program u say and it wont install
[12:35] <habib> i know about ways of installation
[12:35] <habib> i know about apt-get and synaptic
[12:40] <GridCube> habib, wich version of xubuntu are you using, i had a similar problem at the first weeks of 12.04
[12:40] <habib> 12.10
[12:41] <GridCube> i see, please try to launch usc from a terminal and see the warnings it gives you, disregard the ones about gtk3
[12:42] <GridCube> particularly look for warnings regarding the gnome-keyring
[12:42] <habib> http://pastebin.com/k4Hy7gXV
[12:42] <habib> GridCube, http://pastebin.com/k4Hy7gXV
[12:42] <GridCube> lets see
[12:44] <habib> there even button "use this source" is gray
[12:45] <GridCube> habib, try launching usc using sudo
[12:45] <GridCube> gksu actually
[12:47] <habib> same thing
[12:47] <habib> http://pastebin.com/5wkz3C3K
[12:49] <habib> and it says that i have no network connection
[12:51] <GridCube> mmmmhmmm
[12:51] <GridCube> how very weird
[12:51] <habib> yeah
[12:52] <GridCube> habib, do you have external ppa's¡
[12:52] <GridCube> ?
[12:52] <habib> what is it?
[12:53] <GridCube> a ppa?
[12:53] <GridCube> if you dont know then you dont have them
[12:53] <habib> ))
[12:54] <habib> yeah and allso i tryed this. i went to chrome.google.com and it offered me chrome stable version for linux
[12:54] <habib> a .deb kind
[12:54] <habib> i downloaded it
[12:55] <habib> and opened. and it opened in ubuntu software center. but install button is gray
[13:03] <GridCube> habib, mmm yes, try this
[13:03] <habib> so it doesn't work
[13:04] <habib> i did
[13:04] <GridCube> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:04] <GridCube> you have something blocking you somewhere
[13:11] <GridCube> habib, ?
[13:12] <habib> GridCube, in progress
[13:13] <habib> didn't work
[13:13] <habib> afk 5 min
[13:13] <GridCube> ok
[13:14] <GridCube> :) habib try this http://freshtutorial.com/solve-unable-lock-administration-directory-varlibdpkg/
[13:30] <habib> didn't work)
[13:32] <ali1234> i'm trying to install xubuntu 12.10 in virtualbox and it just hangs at the first step of the installer: http://ubuntuone.com/2t8PX13u46VjjYhS9GJAD0
[13:39] <ali1234> 20 minutes
[13:41] <GridCube> ali1234, how much memory have you given to the vbox?
[13:42] <ali1234> 2GB
[13:42] <GridCube> o:
[13:42] <GridCube> thats a lot, and for video the same?
[13:42] <ali1234> it was enough for mint and ubuntu
[13:42] <ali1234> for video?
[13:42] <ali1234> 12MB
[13:43] <GridCube> mmmm it should be enough, but more wouldnt hurt
[13:43] <ali1234> i don't really see how you can run linux in less than 2GB on 64bit
[13:43] <ali1234> this machine has 16GB and it's only just enough
[13:43] <GridCube> i do, 1.5 P:
[13:44] <GridCube> nah, you dont need that much
[13:44] <ali1234> VMs i'm not just using for scratch testing i normally give 4 or 8GB
[13:44] <ali1234> but anywhoo
[13:46] <ali1234> maybe it's because i'm reusing the disk image that i just installed mint on
[13:46] <ali1234> the installer does say "you already have ubuntu 12.10 installed" so maybe mint confuses it due to being incompatible
[13:47] <ali1234> ^ it says that *when it works* i mean :)
[13:48] <ali1234> 5 days battery from SGS... amazing
[13:48] <ali1234> that's almost half what my C7 can do :)
[13:48] <GridCube> ali1234, it should give you the option to install alongside with no problem
[13:48] <GridCube> but i dont know mint
[13:49] <ali1234> it doesn't give those options any more in 12.10
[13:49] <ali1234> you now get "erase ubuntu 12.10 and install" or "something else"
[13:49] <ali1234> where something else => manual configuration
[13:49] <ali1234> when i installed mint that's what it gave me. mint is 12.10 but not a proper respin like xubuntu
[13:50] <GridCube> mmmm no.  it should give you the option
[13:51] <ali1234> well, only if xubuntu patched it back into ubiquity
[13:51] <ali1234> http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu1210installation-large_003.jpg
[13:58] <ali1234> now wiping host drive with dd...
[13:59] <ali1234> so does xfce use gtk2 or gtk3 themes?
[14:04] <TheSheep> ali1234: xfce uses gtk2, but xubuntu ships both gtk2 and gtk3 applications
[14:04] <ali1234> but which does it use fr themes?
[14:04] <TheSheep> ali1234: as I said
[14:05] <ali1234> so it will have all the same problems that MATE has, when using gtk3 applications?
[14:05] <TheSheep> I have no idea what is MATE and what problems it has
[14:06] <ali1234> MATE is a desktop based on gtk2
[14:06] <ali1234> when you run gtk3 applications under it, they appear unthemed
[14:07] <TheSheep> ali1234: xubuntu ships with themes that support both gtk2 and gtk3, so as long as you don't try to use a custom theme that lacks gtk3 support, everything works fine
[14:07] <ali1234> you can force an override by setting symlinks in /home but because gtk2 and gtk3 has totally different themes, anything done in gtk3 (which is pretty much everything) never looks like the desktop
[14:07] <ali1234> yeah, that's the problem. i don't want to use the default themes
[14:08] <ali1234> i want to use radiance, but it has no properly working gtk2 version
[14:08] <TheSheep> ali1234: then use non-default themes that have gtk3 support
[14:08] <TheSheep> ali1234: I use radiance even as we speak and it looks fine
[14:08] <ali1234> so i end up using radiance for gtk3 and clearlooks for gtk2 and it looks like ass
[14:08] <ali1234> well, we shall see
[14:08] <ali1234> if i ever get past the first screen of the installer
[14:09] <TheSheep> good luck
[14:10] <razvan> how to make my flash based games to work more smooth... ??
[14:10] <razvan> online flash games
[14:11] <GridCube> untick hardware acceleration on the flash options
[14:11] <ali1234> HA
[14:11] <ali1234> wiping mint from the drive allows the installer to work
[14:12] <ali1234> had to dd zeros over it
[14:13] <razvan> ok thanks
[14:30] <ali1234> ok, now it is stuck at "retrieving file 43 of 117" - which is odd because i told it not to download anything, because the VM does not have an internet connection
[14:30] <ali1234> been stuck for 15 minutes now
[14:32] <recon_lap> ali1234: have you tried pressing esc?
[14:32] <ali1234> i have now
[14:33] <ali1234> as i expected, it did absolutely nothing
[14:33] <ali1234> oh, wait, there's a skip button now?
[14:33] <ali1234> ok, clicking that a couple of times made it continue
[14:39] <ali1234> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1081632
[14:40] <ali1234> affects main ubuntu isos too
[14:40] <ali1234> oh, xubuntu finished installing
[14:40] <ali1234> then the installer dumps you at a command prompt? seriously?
[14:41] <GridCube> no
[14:41] <GridCube> it should have worked
[14:42] <GridCube> you probably just need to make a new virtual disk, i've never had this much problems
[14:44] <ali1234> what's the difference between xubuntu session and xfce session?
[14:45] <ali1234> why has it popped up a notification telling me there is information available? why not just put the information into the notification?
[14:46] <TheSheep> ali1234: the difference is in the default layout of the panels
[14:46] <TheSheep> ali1234: the xubuntu one has the layout based on old ubuntu, with narrow panels at the top and the bottom of the screen
[14:46] <TheSheep> ali1234: the xfce one has xfce's default layout
[14:46] <ali1234> that's not true
[14:47] <ali1234> the xubuntu session has a thin panel at the top and a dock at the bottom
[14:47] <ali1234> and the xfce session has identical panels and the default xfce mouse background instead of the xubutu background
[14:47] <ali1234> yes, the dfference is it has a different background image
[14:48] <GridCube> and menu icons and options
[14:48] <GridCube> and themes
[14:48] <GridCube> and support for default software and settings
[14:54] <ali1234> yes, the theme is quite different
[14:58] <ali1234> xubuntu session looks like this: http://ubuntuone.com/7VwYXGwp0VHjHJxNDNYFzj
[14:58] <ali1234> xfce session looks like this: http://ubuntuone.com/6yGTfJQriTroUEBk0wiWLq
[14:59] <ali1234> < beginning to wonder if anyone else here actually uses xubuntu
[15:00] <baizon> ali1234: what theme is this?
[15:01] <ali1234> no idea
[15:01] <ali1234> it's what you get when you install xubuntu
[15:01] <ali1234> i haven't even looked in the settings yet
[15:02] <GridCube> ali1234, we do, you mixed things up
[15:03] <GridCube> thats not the default theme, the default theme is greybird
[15:03] <GridCube> you changed it
[15:03] <ali1234> right, ok
[15:03] <ali1234> i changed it
[15:03] <ali1234> i'm just making stuff up to troll you
[15:04] <bazhang> ali1234, no need for that
[15:04] <GridCube> ali1234, i dont see why you would but if it makes you feel better
[15:04] <GridCube> ali1234, you *had*  to do something, are you using a different /home/ than the default? are you carrying config files from mint?
[15:07] <ali1234> no, i wiped /dev/sda with dd in order to make the installer even work, see the bug i posted
[15:07] <GridCube> yes i remember now
[15:07] <GridCube> well i dont know ali1234 but thats not the default theme, you have there, something is wrong, but i dont know what that is
[15:10] <frogman1984> JOIN /python
[15:12] <bazhang>  /join #python
[15:12] <bazhang> frogman1984, ^
[15:16] <frogman1984> yes, fail typing.... :-(
[15:51] <ali1234> cool. theming seems to be flawless
[16:20] <nantou> i need help with log, cue and ape files
[16:20] <nantou> separate em
[16:21] <baizon> ?
[16:21] <baizon> i dont understand your question
[16:22] <nantou> i have several log, cue and ape files. I want to extract the single FLAC files from each of the log, ape and cue files
[16:24] <ali1234> ape is an audio format, cue is a file which describes tracks on an audio cd
[16:24] <ali1234> so i'm guessing the question is "how do i split an ape audio file into tracks based on the cue file?"
[16:25] <ali1234> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/split-ape-and-flac-files-in-ubuntu-and.html
[16:25] <nantou> aso
[16:25] <nantou> thx
[16:25] <ali1234> check comments also, people seem t think there are better ways
[17:06] <kj4>  
[17:31] <bleubox> anyone here have experience with a broken package manager?
[17:31] <bleubox> i was mid-update and the power cord got yanked, causing something to go wrong with libqt
[17:32] <bleubox> the usual sudo apt-get install -f doesn't help, i'm afraid
[17:32] <v1adimir> uh sudo apt-get --help
[17:32] <v1adimir> and purge the downloaded
[17:33] <v1adimir> maybe :)
[17:34] <bleubox> purge the downloaded?  through clean?
[17:34] <genii-around> I'd suggest to delete all the files in /var/lib/apt/lists   too
[17:34] <bleubox> (and thanks)
[17:34] <bleubox> hm, okay
[17:35] <v1adimir> bleubox: not 100% sure
[17:35] <bleubox> vladimir: okay, thanks :)
[17:35] <v1adimir> bleubox: man apt-get says 'purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and purged (any configuration files are deleted too).' so looks like i was totally wrong
[17:36] <bleubox> vladimir: ah, man. how useful it is. okay, that makes sense
[17:36] <v1adimir> bleubox: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-linux-clear-the-package-cache/
[17:37] <v1adimir> sorz i was too hasty to reply :\
[17:45] <siim> can someone please help me, I cant get my wireless to work.
[17:45] <siim> non of the network is showing up on that tray icon
[17:46] <bleubox> siim: is this a new install?
[17:46] <siim> yes
[17:47] <siim> i got it to work somehow(noob) but after restart it wont work anymore and i dont remember what did i do
[17:47] <bleubox> siim: i've had problems getting xubuntu to remember my settings too
[17:47] <bleubox> siim: i'm also new at this
[17:47] <bleubox> siim: but I'll try to help
[17:48] <bleubox> siim: so the network icon shows up but no networks show up there?
[17:48] <siim> only that one wired network im using right now
[17:49] <bleubox> genii-around: i think you had the key there
[17:49] <bleubox> genii-around: thanks!
[17:50] <bleubox> siim: do you know much about networks? does yours broadcast its SSID?
[17:50] <genii-around> bleubox: Glad to assist.
[17:51] <siim> sorry no
[17:53] <bleubox> siim: i'd suggest trying to manually create a new wireless network through the menu bar item and add your network that way
[17:55] <siim> how to i connect to it .. im actually  trying to do an adhoc
[17:56] <siim> i dont have my own wifi here
[17:58] <bleubox> siim: i'm afraid you're outside my expertise, then. i'm not sure how to do ad hoc
[17:58] <bleubox> siim: sorry
[17:59] <barney> I am setting up a lenovo w530 laptop and trying to get the vga to work ... My second screen is now showing the "boot" background but how do I get it to duplicate the laptop screen?
[18:01] <GridCube> try setting them up using arandr
[18:02] <barney> Thanks will give that a try ...
[18:03] <GridCube> also check the keyboard fn keys, they usually cycle between modes
[18:17] <david_> OK .. I installed arandr but found that I could simply drag windows from one side to the other. My problem really is that I want to be able to duplicate my laptop display on a second display ... any ideas there?
[18:26] <nantou> HELP! I am splitting a CUE-APE file into several audio files. I am following the instructions that can be found at http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/split-ape-and-flac-files-in-ubuntu-and.html, but I have a problem with the MAC package, as xubuntu 12.10 says it is dangerous for the system. Where can I find a stable MAC package? alternatively, what other way of splitting the APE-CUE would you suggest?
[18:29] <recon_lap> david_ thought that was the default behavior.
[18:33] <recon_lap> david_ opps, I use xrandr
[18:34] <nantou> pacman -S cuetools shntool flac wavpack mac mp3info vorbis-tools <-- executes pacman the game, how do I install that bundle of files?
[18:36] <genii-around> nantou: *buntu ditributions use apt-get, not pacman
[18:36] <genii-around> !apt-get | nantou
[18:38] <nantou> thx genii-around , any idea where to find a stable mac? Unable to locate package mac
[18:42] <genii-around> nantou: It would help to know what that package was for on the platform you are trying to run the instructions for.
[18:42] <nantou> genii-around, i am discovering things as I write, and I cannot explain any better
[18:44] <genii-around> The URL you gave earlier does not contain the "pacman -S cuetools shntool flac wavpack mac mp3info vorbis-tools"  command you were trying, so it's a bit difficult to assist with incomplete information.
[18:48] <nantou> o sorry
[18:49] <nantou> genii-around, please disregard the pacman line
[18:53] <genii-around> nantou: It seems this "mac" package is the codecs for the APE proprietary format. https://launchpad.net/~g-christ/+archive/ppa seems to have a current version.
[18:54] <nantou> thanks genii-around , but the line "Using this PPA can break your system without prior notice!" scares me
[18:57] <genii-around> nantou: Yes, since Personal Package Archives are not officially sanctioned packages, installing them can be dangerous since they are not audited and so on. But the majority of them are very safe.
[18:58] <ali1234> can i make "Action Buttons" show an icon instead of my full name?
[19:18] <nantou> Saving tracks to "./Brahms - Pollini/1980 - DGG 419 470-2" <-- what does the "." mean? I cannot find the directory
[19:18] <nantou> it is not .Brahms <--
[19:18] <nantou> but with a forward slash
[19:36] <well_laid_lawn> nantou: ./ means the current directory
[19:36] <xubuntu663> hey guys! anyone can help me making a clean install of 12.10 on a laptop??
[19:38] <knome> xubuntu663, is there a specific problem?
[19:38] <xubuntu663> i have the iso burned on a cd, i boot through the cd, select install bu tehen nothing happens!
[19:38] <xubuntu663> just a underscore flashing..
[19:38] <nantou> well_laid_lawn, then I have a problem, new files are not there
[19:39] <xubuntu663> well, the laptop has WinXP already installed, but i want to format and install Xub
[19:40] <xubuntu663> knome, do you have a solution for me?
[19:42] <xubuntu663> anyone?
[19:43] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu663: sounds like it might be a graphics driver issue
[19:44] <xubuntu663> hummm... and the graphics driver prevents the xubuntu boot installer to proceed with a clean install?
[19:45] <xubuntu663> the graphics card is a laptop mobile ATI Radeon
[19:45] <well_laid_lawn> I don't know that much about ati but that should be ok
[19:46] <well_laid_lawn> did you check the cd?
[19:46] <well_laid_lawn> !md5
[19:47] <xubuntu663> nop... i didn't check the cd..
[19:47] <xubuntu663> i just downloaded from the official site then burned it
[19:47] <well_laid_lawn> weel give it a check it might not have burned right
[19:47] <well_laid_lawn> s/weel/well/
[19:48] <xubuntu663> okay!
[20:13] <VividReality> Hello, I just bought a new screen, but the preferred resolutions aren't available, how do I get them?
[20:14] <xubuntu663> dont know how to use md5sum.... :| forget it... i'll install winXP instead
[20:15] <VividReality> I have an AMD HD 9650 graphics card.
[20:16] <VividReality> 6950* whoops.
[20:16] <VividReality> So I would think it could handle the resolution.
[20:17] <VividReality> The screen can go up to 1920 * 1080
[20:17] <knome> VividReality, do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[20:17] <VividReality> How do I know if I do?
[20:18] <knome> VividReality, try to open that in a text editor, or 'ls' for the directory it in the terminal (ls /etc/X11)
[20:18] <VividReality> Should I use that driver then?
[20:18] <VividReality> Instead of AMD propetiary?
[20:19] <knome> VividReality, no, this is not about drivers. if you have an old xorg.conf, that might be the reason why you're not having the new modes visible
[20:19] <VividReality> Oh okay, thank you.
[20:19] <knome> VividReality, but let's check that first
[20:19] <VividReality> Do you mean this? xorg.conf.original-0
[20:20] <knome> no, just "xorg.conf"
[20:20] <VividReality> No I don't.
[20:20] <knome> ok
[20:20] <knome> if you type 'xrandr' in a terminal, do you see your new display with appropriate modes listed?
[20:21] <knome> (if you want to paste it, please use a pastebin)
[20:21] <knome> !pastebin
[20:21] <VividReality> It seems it lists my old screen
[20:21] <VividReality> It thinks it's a CRT
[20:22] <VividReality> And not the appropiate modes, no.
[20:23] <VividReality> Here you go http://pastebin.com/pY4A1HEi
[20:24] <david_> Does anyone here know the location of the configuration files for desktop launcher items?
[20:25] <knome> VividReality, what happens if you type 'xrandr --output CRT1 --mode [insert some mode you're not using now]' ?
[20:25] <knome> david_, application launchers are at /usr/share/applications/
[20:26] <VividReality> xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1080
[20:26] <knome> VividReality, try one of the modes listed in the output, to see if your monitor is "CRT1" :)
[20:26] <VividReality> Oh I am sorry.
[20:26] <knome> np
[20:27] <david_> knome, I created a custom launcher with specific arguments. I am remotely logged in and wanted to get the args I used.
[20:27] <VividReality> It seems to be the one :P
[20:27] <knome> david_, i suppose those are in ~/.local
[20:28] <VividReality> It set my monitor to that mode.
[20:28] <knome> VividReality, try adding the new mode with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[20:29] <david_> knome, This is a launcher in the panel.
[20:30] <knome> david_, those should be in the same place, the files are called ".desktop"-files, because that's the file extension
[20:30] <knome> david_, ~/.local/share/applications
[20:31] <bearly230> Hello all, would anyone have an idea why on a clean install of xubuntu 12.10 the default file manager is slow to open. IE takes up to 2 mins to open the first time or if it's been closed for a while.
[20:32] <david_> knome, Thanks for your help. You got me in the right direction. It was .config/xfce/panel/launcher-[id].rc
[20:32] <knome> david_, sure, np
[20:33] <david_> bearly230, Are you trolling? IE?
[20:33] <knome> "i.e." == "id est" == "for example"
[20:33] <knome> (i imagine...)
[20:34] <david_> I hope
[20:35] <bearly230> david_: No I'm not a troll, I'm serious. This is a new machine, where I put xubuntu on it this morning, only thing I've done is the patches, and installed libreoffice. But if I go to open the file manager to open one of my documents. It will take up to 2 mins the first time I open it. If I've had it closed for a while it will be slow to open again. But once it's opened I can open / close no problem until it sits for a while.
[20:36] <bearly230> david_: doesn't happen on my laptop, just this new hp machine.
[20:36] <knome> bearly230, if you're not using network drives, installing gvfs-backends should make it open much faster
[20:36] <bearly230> Thanks I'll give that a try.
[20:37] <bearly230> david_: says it's already installed and newest version.
[20:38] <knome> bearly230, sorry. i meant *uninstalling*
[20:38] <knome> bearly230, i'm not thinking too straight anymore
[20:38] <bearly230> k will give that a try.
[20:39] <bearly230> knome: brb going to restart and check it out.
[20:49] <bearly230> That worked, thanks.
[22:01] <Macster> Trying to install Xubuntu and get this error: This required the following features not present on the CPU, pae, Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu
[22:01] <knome> Macster, 12.10 needs pae support. you can install 12.04 with non-pae though and upgrade
[22:01] <Macster> Old IBM Thinkpad T42
[22:02] <Macster> Thanks
[22:02] <knome> yes, not all older machines/CPUs have PAE support
[22:02] <Macster> cool, good to know, thanks
[22:02] <knome> unfortunate, but there's not much we can do about it since we don't have the workforce to maintain a non-PAE kernel ourself
[22:02] <knome> but 12.04 will always work, and upgrades from that will work too
[22:03] <Macster> cool, thanks for the info
[22:03] <knome> no problem - enjoy
[22:05] <Macster> There's not enough ram in this old lappie to warrant using a pae kernel anyway so good to know
[22:06] <knome> :)
[23:27] <prpl> I have an ext4fs partition that I created for storage but it's owned by root and Thunar does not offer the "change of ownership" option that Nautilus does. How do I resolve this please ?
[23:28] <prpl> I have spent time googling this
[23:29] <torax> you can change the owner with chown
[23:29] <prpl> opennterminal at the location ?
[23:30] <prpl> any tips torax ?
[23:30] <prpl> Everyone myust hyave to do this
[23:30] <torax> http://askubuntu.com/questions/6723/change-folder-permissions-and-ownership
[23:31] <knome> or, see what fstab says
[23:31] <knome> (if it's automounted)
[23:31] <prpl> it is automaounted
[23:31] <prpl> I can see it and open it but cant writ5e to it
[23:32] <prpl> I dont recall this as an issue before
[23:35] <prpl> thanks for the link..I did read it before but was hoping for some hidden gui trick before I tried chown
[23:36] <prpl> Maybe I'll just reformat to ntfs
[23:37] <knome> i wouldn't suggest that if you're using the drive with linux
[23:37] <prpl> Its just like a windows partition....
[23:38] <prpl> You mean defragging ?
[23:38] <knome> no, i mean i wouldn't suggest ntfs
[23:38] <knome> there might be some problems with ntfs and linux
[23:39] <prpl> linux meaning xubuntu ?
[23:40] <knome> xubuntu, too
[23:40] <prpl> I am actuallyb trying to move away from partitioning storage in ntfs
[23:40] <PhoenixSTF> prpl, xubuntu is linux based kernel. so everything that goes for linux, xubuntu inherits
[23:41] <prpl> I am used to dragging a windows xp around so it works best as a share between xp and linux
[23:41] <prpl> ntfs that is
[23:42] <prpl> So out of habit I create ntfs storage partitions
[23:42] <prpl> The ext4 requires permission alteration. In nautilus it's a piece of cake
[23:43] <PhoenixSTF> well if dropping windows is not a option, you can always make a exfat partition with your home windows folders
[23:43] <PhoenixSTF> i don't know if exfat works on linux
[23:43] <PhoenixSTF> otherwise, fat32 works just fine
[23:44] <prpl> fat has the 4gb issue though I want to figure out the exta...no xp on this hdd
[23:44] <prpl> ext4*
[23:45] <PhoenixSTF> then is ntfs... dont install linux on a ntfs
[23:46] <prpl> I have xubuntu on a 10 gb partition...ext4...and another partition 30 gb ext4 that requires ownership adjustment so II can access it as username
[23:46] <prpl> I*
[23:46] <prpl> thats where I am now
[23:47] <prpl> the second empty partition is root owned
[23:48] <prpl> I am used to nautilus wher it can be easily changed, the ownership ...
[23:49] <prpl> I must learn how to change the ownership using the chown command I believe but now must figure out the actual content of the command  that follows sudo chown
[23:53] <prpl> -R username: group directory....what is the group and is the directory the UUID of the partition ?
[23:56] <recon_lap>  group is the group you what the directory to belong to and directory is the directory you want to change, -R is recursive
[23:57] <recon_lap> prpl: UUID's would be used at the partition level in fstab
[23:58] <prpl> recon_lap...I renamed the partition to "26GB_EXT4_Storge" so I know what it is at all times
[23:59] <recon_lap> prpl: I not really a expert, but you at the file system level now, so you working from mount point
[23:59] <prpl> so its location will be /media/26GB_EXT4_Storge "
[23:59] <prpl> ?