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cjaeOk so I have a ubuntu latop but run kubuntu 12.04 on the desktop. I would like to not have unity but gnome3 and gnome classic as other gui shells to login into. I also would like to not corrupt as much of kde as possible. For example it dont want kde using gtk libraries or something of that nature if it didnt use them before. I had unity on the laptop but I did more than just sudo apt-get install gnome-shell, but cant seem to find a01:03
cjaerelevant page for this.01:03
Tygartcjae: I would suggest "gnome-session-fallback" or "gnome-shell"01:58
Tygarthttp://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/gnome-session-fallback01:59
Tygartoops01:59
Tygartsorry not in English01:59
xixorman.  slashdot is such a linux circle-jerk, I can't even read it anymore02:04
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melvincvhi03:53
melvincvanyway, the Muon software center is more responsive than the Unity one. Thums Up to you :)03:56
melvincvI'm installing the virtual machine manager app.03:57
melvincvHope it's a good one. And it pulls in the deps. I have AMD-V enabled.03:58
Atamirahow do you get desktop icons for removeable media? IE dvdroms04:18
melvincvhi, the KDE partition manager can't create a ext4 partition on a newly initialized disk04:49
melvincv??? weird. what to do now?04:50
melvincvIt just show 'error'... no detail04:52
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notze_how can i bring all windows back to monitor 1?07:17
notze_if i detach monitor 2 they stay on the virtual monitor so i cant see them anymore07:18
noaXessmorning07:35
noaXesson a nfs share, how do i keep mtimes while file transfer from client to server?07:36
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Kottizenhttp://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-mu189208:53
KottizenWhat are those computers? I've never used KRDC on this system before...08:53
lordievaderKottizen: I think zeroconf is looking for vnc servers on your network and adds them automatically.09:00
icehi all..09:06
icei've got several kubuntu desktops that are offline and would like to perfom installations of addtional packages from a USB stick, whats the best way?09:08
icefor example i want all the 'build-essential' dependencies installed with out the clean kubuntu install ever been on the internet09:09
tcbernerGood afternoon. amarok segfaults if the external harddisk, where my collection resides, is not mounted.09:11
tcbernerversion installed is 2.6.0-0ubuntu2.109:16
milo64hey alll09:50
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milo64joins and parts and nick changes! :DD10:19
milo64hi all10:20
milo64does donating to Kubuntu also donates to Ubuntu?10:20
tsimpsonKubuntu and Ubuntu are funded by different companies now10:22
milo64so10:22
milo64if i donate to kubuntu, it won't go to ubuntu?10:23
tsimpsonwell I don't know how one goes about donating money to either10:23
tsimpsonRiddell: ?10:24
notzeis tehre a way how i can show lall windows on desktop 110:46
notzemonitor 110:46
notzesince when i disconnect i cant see the others anymore, that belonged to monitor 210:47
Riddellmilo64: if you donate through canonical then it won't come to kubuntu10:47
Riddelldespite what they say, it's not true10:47
thelionroarsnotze I usually get around that by deactivating that monitor before disconnecting, not sure if there is  a better solution10:49
notzethx for this but i never think about that10:49
notzethe kde should eb able to reanrange10:49
thelionroarsyeah like a dozen other things it should do :P10:49
notzee.g?10:50
notzei used KDE like 5 years ago10:50
notzenow i thought i give it a try10:50
notzebut nothing became really better10:50
notzeokay copy paste and stuff10:50
notzebut its like a baby10:50
thelionroarsshould handle power management so that screensaver/sleep doesn't come on when a video is playing fullscreen10:50
thelionroarscan't think of others atm, but they are there :)10:51
notzea lotlot10:51
notzeis gnoem beter regarding this?10:51
milo64Riddell: i like Kubuntu, but I hate Ubuntu because of Unity :P10:51
thelionroarsnot sure, I haven't used Gnome for years10:52
milo64gnome sucks.10:54
Riddellmilo64: we have a UK bank account if you wish to donate, I've also had people send money to my personal paypal account which I've transfered to the bank account (requires lots of trust)10:54
milo64hmm?10:54
milo64i can hardly trust someone.... I am very poor!10:55
milo64:X10:55
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milo64Quasel client is very noisy....11:35
hateballmilo64: Noisy how?11:39
milo64hard to use... etc.11:39
milo64compared to weechat and xchat :|11:40
hateballMhm11:40
hateballapt-get install irssi ;)11:40
milo64*sigh*11:41
* hateball runs Quassel right now btw11:41
* milo64 throws balls of hates on hateball11:46
milo64because quassel is noisy11:46
hateballI don't see how noisy = hard to use11:48
hateballDo you mean there are a lot of options?11:48
hateballI'd call that cluttered if anything11:48
hateballStill... you /join a channel. You type text. Not sure how much you can improve that :)11:49
milo64nvm11:49
milo64¿¿11:49
* milo64 clicks "Remove this Show Desktop"11:51
milo64:|11:51
xixormilo64: ?11:53
milo64¿What?11:53
milo64it was a joke11:54
milo64:P11:54
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milo64xD12:12
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Brustofski-FanAudio output failed:  The audio device "default" could not be used:   No such file or directory.13:49
BluesKajHey all13:50
BluesKajBrustofski-Fan, which soundcard?13:51
Brustofski-FanBluesKaj: IDT with beatsaudio13:52
Brustofski-FanBluesKaj: it happened after i added ( tsched=0 ) is pulseaudio default.pa13:54
BluesKajBrustofski-Fan, in the terminal , sudo lshw -C sound , look for the line beginning with "product"13:55
BluesKajto what file did you add tsched=0 ?13:56
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Brustofski-Fanproduct: BeaverCreek HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6500D and 6400G-6600G series]13:57
Brustofski-Fanproduct: Hudson Azalia Controller13:57
Brustofski-Fan2 lines13:57
Brustofski-FanI don'y use the hdmi13:58
buxhi13:58
buxi ll like to loop over files within a folder13:58
buxand for each file create a variable13:58
buxi tried:13:58
buxforeach f (*.smi)13:58
buxecho $f \ cut -d. -f1 > $t13:58
buxecho $t13:58
buxend13:58
FloodBotK1bux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:58
RamchandraApte!enter13:59
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!13:59
buxbut it is not working13:59
BluesKajBrustofski-Fan, ok open alsamixer in the terminal and check which audio chip is listed in the top left13:59
buxi would like the outcome of echo $f  | cut -d. -f1 within a variable13:59
buxany ideas ?13:59
Brustofski-FanBluesKaj: ATI R6xx HDMI14:00
BluesKajBrustofski-Fan, ok we need more info , pastebin the out put from ,  sudo aplay -l14:02
BluesKajbux  , think you might get an an answer in #ubuntu , chances are 8 or so times greater there14:04
Brustofski-FanBluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/fJt0GmDR14:06
sanHi Guys14:08
sanm running kubuntu 12.1014:08
sanwant to upgrade to 13.0414:08
sanplease tell me the command14:08
eagles0513875!upgrade14:09
ubottuFor upgrading instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu14:09
Brustofski-Fan13.04 not out14:09
san13.04 daily build14:09
Brustofski-FanBluesKaj: Any idea14:10
sanearlier it was update-manager-d14:12
sanbut its not working now14:13
BluesKajBrustofski-Fan, in the terminal , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel ...if the audio module loads properly there will be no output14:14
BluesKajsan, sudo do-release-upgrade -d , if you want to upgrade to 13.04 thru the internet14:16
Brustofski-FanThen reboot or what14:16
sanok will try this14:17
Brustofski-Fanbrb14:17
BluesKajBrustofski-Fan, open krunner(alt+F2) and do, kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  , add this line to the bottom,  ' options snd_hda_intel index=0 ', save the file and reboot14:17
BluesKajgawd14:18
Brustofski-FanBluesKaj: still samething14:20
sanMany Thanks guys.. its upgrading14:20
BluesKajBrustofski-Fan, you left too soon , open krunner(alt+F2) and do, kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  , add this line to the bottom,  ' options snd_hda_intel index=0 ', save the file and reboot14:21
BluesKajsan once upgraded , advice can be had in #ubuntu+1 , all DE's are welcome there14:23
Brustofski-Fanok see what happens14:24
nicolas__Hi everyone14:28
Brustofski-FanBluesKaj: did not help14:28
BluesKajBrustofski-Fan, make sure all ctrls in alsamixer are unmuted , noMM in the boxes, and turn them up with the up/down arrow keys14:29
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BluesKajalso Brustofski-Fan what di you do with tsched=0  in pulseaudio default.pa...what's the actual file path14:30
nicolas__I'm trying to sync my gmail contacts with kmail. However, the autocompletion doesn't work when  try to compose a new mail. I've search the web but it did not really help altough the problem seems to be quite recurent. Do you have any idea14:31
Brustofski-FanDon't have any controls to unmute..... onlything that has controls is the hdmi14:31
BluesKajBrustofski-Fan, ok , install pavucontrol , and setup the inputs and output devices with that14:34
Brustofski-FanBluesKaj: nothing worked but sence it happened when i edited the pulseaudio default.pa.. I restored that file rebooted and now it works14:39
BluesKajnicolas__, in gmail create a Contacts.ldif file and just import it into kmail14:39
BluesKajalso Brustofski-Fan what did you do with tsched=0  in pulseaudio default.pa...what's the actual file path14:39
BluesKajdon't fool with pulseaudio.pa ..best to install pavucontrol  and setup the inputs and output devices with that , if you wish14:41
BluesKajBrustofski-Fan ^14:41
Brustofski-FanBluesKaj: VLC screws up.. gets scratchy and lags.. It's supose to be a fix for it14:42
nicolas__BluesKaj: Thank you for your response. But from what I see, Gmail does not support LDAP14:47
nicolas__I successfully synced the contacts in Kaddressbook. The problem seems to be in the autocompletion of kmail. When I clic "select" in kmail the I can select my contacts. It's "just" autocompletion that doen't work14:50
BluesKajnicolas__, well , congratulations on getting kmail to work for you , but I gave up on a while back , I think the ppl at #kde chat can probly help if nobody else can here .14:55
nicolas__BluesKaj: Ok, thank you!14:56
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MmikeHi, guys. is there a way to make konsole have all the tab-titles the same size? I use %w for a title  (so that when i ssh to second or third box the title changes), but when I enter very very long directory path, that tab title stretches and the rest become unreadable15:42
milo64Mmike: I don't understand!15:50
milo64give me a screen shot of what it happen15:51
Mmikesec15:51
milo64imgur15:51
Mmikehttp://mmike.dyndns.org/~mario/konsole.png15:51
Mmikesee how the leftmost tab is wide?15:51
milo64hmm15:52
milo64i wouldn't mind that if i were you... Mmike, your intention is to see what directory you are on from the tab name?15:53
milo64Use 'pwd'15:53
MmikeI'd like it not to grow if there is no room (that is, if I have 10 tabs, I want them all the same size), and, also, I'd like to have them trimmed from the right, not from the left ( so that user@host:/... is always visible, not the ../some/dir part)15:53
milo64hmm15:54
Mmikeactually, I want to know what host I am on in certain tab. Also, 'pwd' is no good as I'd have to switch to that tab first (but, as I've said, I'm  more interested in user@host part than in directory part)15:54
milo64echo "$(whoami)@$(hostname)"...15:55
milo64nvm then15:55
Mmikemilo64, yup, but I have that in my prompt, no point in typing that :) And, %w says 'use what shell is seetting', so that's all good. Just the size and the trimming is not15:58
milo64:|15:58
Mmikeno probls, just wanted to know if it's possible15:59
MmikeI guess hacking that in shouldn't be a problem15:59
Mmikethe available time might be, though :/15:59
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larry_anyone live here?16:04
milo64larry_: 299 people live here counting you and me.16:04
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milo64unless if there are bots16:05
milo64ah16:05
milo64!ubottu16:06
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milo64*sigh*16:06
milo64larry_: 29616:07
larry_nice to know milo16:07
larry_anyone here aware of the Eiffel programming language/method?16:07
milo64oh no, gotta go16:07
Mmikehe doesn't seem to like eiffel16:08
dracirontrying to help a friend out with Nvidia problem but out of ideas.16:13
dracirongot everything working except she has a cursor that vanishes.16:14
morgandraciron are you using the nvidia driver ?16:16
morganor the opensource one16:16
morganand ddo you have an xorg.conf ?16:17
dracironthe navue trapped her in low rez so I had her install the nvidia current from repository.16:17
dracironan xorg.conf was created when I had her run nvidia-settings16:18
dracironThere used to be a ay long ago to fix that. Something about setting the cursor but been years sinceI had to do that.16:19
dracironInstalling nvidia current got everything working at least after getting kernel source & headersinstalled.16:20
dracironexcept for the cursor. It vanishes or button it is over vanishes.16:21
dracironshe's using an old Emachine so I as surprised she had ANY problems with the drivers.16:21
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Walex2draciron: note that older nVidia cards require older driver editions, not newer ones16:34
larry_anyone else using yacy?16:41
larry_cannot seem to locate it using apt-get16:41
bazhang!find yacy16:41
ubottuFile yacy found in dooble, jsonbot, openvas-plugins-dfsg16:41
bazhanglarry_, what exactly is "yacy"16:42
larry_yacy = opensource peer search engine without spying by google et al16:42
bazhanggot a link?16:43
larry_yacy.net16:43
larry_I am putting together with Tor16:43
larry_(don't like the google-ly eyes spying on every little search and link via chrome and others16:44
dracironWalex2, only one edition in repository. Nvidia current. Any idea where to get older ones?16:45
bazhanglarry_, that page has the tar.gz ; an alternate method suggests adding a repo. neither are supported so good idea to make backups before using either method16:47
larry_<-- somewhat new to linux. Please define repo? (assuming backup respository)16:48
Walex2draciron: I got 12.04 and i see all three, 'nvidia-current', 'nvidia-96' and 'nvidia-173'. You may have to add more lines to 'sources.list'. Couple links:16:49
Walex2https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/nvidia-9616:49
Walex2https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/nvidia-17316:50
bazhanglarry_, a repo is a software repository, a place from which to install software. a search using the terms Ubuntu yacy leads to several links telling exactly how to enable said repos16:53
Walex2larry_: to add a bit to what bazhang said, try to imagine it as an app store. Ubuntu has over 10,000 free sw packages in the standard repo, most of them derived from Debian packages.16:55
* Walex2 cringes when describing a repository as an app store :-)16:56
larry_bazhang, ok ... thx16:56
BluesKaj!repository | larry16:56
ubottularry: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories16:56
larry_does the "muon package manager" access these repositories to show me what is and is not installed?17:00
OerHekslarry, sure, after sudo apt-get update the list is loaded in muon.17:02
larry_excellent (I am looking at this list now)17:03
sambagirlhi i have ubuntu 10.10 on one of my laptops and i prefer gnome with upper and lower panels and applets i can put anywhere i desire. is this option available with kubuntu? i dont like the desktop managers in ubuntu anymore and i am looking for consistancy from what i have had for years.17:07
OerHekssambagirl, KDE has one panel, at the bottom, but that is ajustable to the top/side17:09
BluesKajsambagirl, yes to the panels in kubuntu17:09
OerHeks*adjustable17:09
OerHeksplasma is awesome :-D17:09
BluesKajsambagirl, you can add a top panel with the desktop option on the top left17:10
BluesKajsambagirl, the normal panel position is at the bottom by default17:11
BluesKajfor top panel it might be on the topright , sambagirl depending on where the desktop option posititons itself on your install17:13
sambagirlso i can't have an upper one and a lower one?17:13
BluesKajyes17:13
sambagirli just dont understand why that would be eliminated? just doesnt make any sense.17:13
BluesKajwhy you wouls want 2 is beyond me , but each to his/her own :)17:13
BluesKajsorry sambagirl you can have 2 ..i misread17:14
sambagirlwell the top one would have all my quick launch apps, my applets, date, time, weather, various shells for quick launch.  the bottom one has my open apps as well as 6 window i can switch thru or workspaces i suppose. i use compiz extensively.17:15
BluesKajyeah , typical gnome setup17:15
sambagirloh ok17:15
BluesKajon kde you can everything in one panel17:16
sambagirlso what do i need to download cause i backed up my home directory and am about to copy / paste my sticky notes and email them to myself17:16
sambagirli dont like kde17:16
sambagirlgnome is my pref17:16
BluesKajwell kubuntu is kde desktop17:16
sambagirlohhh17:16
sambagirlso i should be in xubuntu?17:16
sambagirlahh k for kde i get it17:17
sambagirlsorry17:17
BluesKajdunno never used xubuntu , do some DE research to see what you might like17:17
sambagirlyeah ok thanks17:17
BluesKajgood luck ":)17:17
Mmikesambagirl, I have set up my KDE almost as it was in gnome217:18
MmikeAnd I like it, most of it :)17:18
MmikeTwo pannels, taskbar and pager (virtual destop switcher) at the bottom, 'start' menu, date, system tray etc, at the top17:18
Mmikeand launchers (shortcuts) at the top panel too17:18
sambagirlreally?17:18
MmikeI just wish KDE had nice network/mem-usage/load/etc graphers, as gnome system-monitor applet was :/17:19
BluesKajMmike, do a prtsrn and imagebin it17:19
sambagirli've looked at probably 100 different distrobutions and while kde is elegant and attractive, i just dont dig it for whatever reason i am not exactly sure.17:19
Mmikesec17:19
BluesKajnot enough brown and orange ?17:20
xixorI love linux users.  Complain vehemently whenever any app uses the most minescule amount of memory.  While using an overly elaborate widget to monitor their memory usage.17:20
Mmikehttp://mmike.dyndns.org/~mario/mykde.png17:21
Mmikexixor, gnome system-monitor (or system-status, dunno about the name) was realy realy cool. a bit ugly but small, informative, excellent17:21
Mmikedon't have my gnome desktop screenshot handy now :/17:21
Mmikewhat i LOVE about KDE is ability to turn of composting on-the-fly17:22
Mmikeso I can again play my games trough wine! :)17:22
xixorMmike: I'm using one of the KDE applet/widgets thing.  I have an auto-hiding panel on the right-most edge of the right-most monitor that has a few quick launch buttons on it, but also has a Ksystem monitor applet or something like that, that works quite well.  Temperature, memory, HD, network, CPU monitoring17:22
Mmikexixor, mind if I ask for a screenshot?17:23
Mmikesambagirl, xfce is neat, fast, but limited. And lxde is even faster, if you don't mind limitations17:24
Mmikefor me, I think I'll stick with KDE, just have to get used to it.17:24
xixorMmike: I'm not sure if I have one that shows that panel17:25
Mmikexixor, printscreen?17:25
xixorMmike: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1781062/lolnux.png17:26
Mmikebecause all the KDE widgets i tried for monitoring those thingies are not good. either take too much resources or are unreadable, or...17:26
Mmikethnx, lemme see17:26
xixorMmike: I'm not using that computer right now, so can't get one with the hidden panel with the system monitor applet.  That is what the desktop looks like though17:26
Mmikexixor, I se17:28
MmikeI see17:28
Mmikei always love to see other people's desktops :)17:28
xixorwhat is that red box on your upper panel?17:29
phoenix_firebrdkde 4.10 beta 1 availbale?17:46
cjohnstonRiddell: ping18:02
AnOlderGuyHello. I'm running Kubuntu Precise. Today I opened (tried to) Synaptic in order to update a system that was non used since a couple of months and I got the following error message:18:24
AnOlderGuyE: Encountered a section with no Package: header18:24
AnOlderGuyE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages18:24
AnOlderGuyE: Impossibile analizzare o aprire l'elenco dei pacchetti o il file di stato.18:24
AnOlderGuyE: _cache->open() failed, please report.18:24
AnOlderGuygiving any suggestion, please bear in mind I'm on a very slow connection18:25
ledahwhy synaptic?18:40
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cjaewhy does k3b keep asking me to install mp3 encoding over and over again20:21
BluesKajcjae, it's a bug20:24
cjaeok so they are installed still?20:24
BluesKajyes20:25
BluesKajcheck your plugins20:25
BluesKajk3b that is20:25
OerHeksmaybe you need lame codec for m-3 support ?20:27
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Riddellcjohnston: pong?21:31
cjohnstonRiddell: are all of the kubuntu blueprints setup and ready on status.ubuntu.com21:32
Riddellcjohnston: they are on launchpad21:37
* Riddell looks at21:37
Riddellat status.ubuntu.com21:37
Riddellcjohnston: yep looks good21:38
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cjohnstoncool. thanks Riddell21:40
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avihayanyone happens to know/have the command to reset the trey icon's icon cache ?21:58
ed5785434567654hi, anyone know how to name/label hdd which has fat32 filesystem, partition manager says this filesystem doesnt support labels, but the external seagate hdd  I bought years ago has fat32 and also is name SEA_DISK? thanks22:10
genii-arounded5785434567654: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive#FAT16_and_FAT3222:40
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wissamHi ,i have avermedia pci analog tv card but no sound in tvtime or kradio423:27
wissamafter doing some search i can hear sound with this command "tvtime | arecord -D hw:1,0 -r 32000 -c 2 -f S16_LE | aplay - +"23:28
wissambut i can't record in radio or tv23:29
wissamwhen runing tvtime command at the command line i got this two errors :23:31
wissammixer: Can't open mixer default, mixer volume and mute unavailable.23:31
wissammixer: Can't open device default/Line, mixer volume and mute unavailable23:31
amichairAfter one of my recent upgrades (either to Kubuntu 12.10 or to KDE 4.9.x, not sure), my desktop started going into suspend mode which it has never done in the years before, and should't. Looking at the power settings, it looks like there are no longer any profiles available (although the powermanagementprofilesrc config file does have separate AC/Battery etc. settings). Anyone know what's going on with the power settings?23:43
milo64wissam: it's sleepy time here... join the -_- zzZZZ23:44
amichairAlso when the UPS kicked in today, the computer shutdown quickly altogether (which it never did before either, and shouldn't until the battery runs out as set in apcupsd)...23:45
wissammilo64: it's 1:45 here is syria :-"23:45
amichairI see in the activity power settings you can select 'Act like' AC/battery/low battery... but where does one configure these settings?23:48
milo64amichair: it is sleepy time for this chan... Come and Join the -_- zzZZZ! :D23:57
amichairmilo64: I would, but I have to get this issue fixed first so the computer doesn't go to sleep as well!23:58

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