=== keithzg_ is now known as keithzg === david is now known as Guest31161 === Guest31161 is now known as thekleine [01:03] Ok so I have a ubuntu latop but run kubuntu 12.04 on the desktop. I would like to not have unity but gnome3 and gnome classic as other gui shells to login into. I also would like to not corrupt as much of kde as possible. For example it dont want kde using gtk libraries or something of that nature if it didnt use them before. I had unity on the laptop but I did more than just sudo apt-get install gnome-shell, but cant seem to find a [01:03] relevant page for this. [01:58] cjae: I would suggest "gnome-session-fallback" or "gnome-shell" [01:59] http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/gnome-session-fallback [01:59] oops [01:59] sorry not in English [02:04] man. slashdot is such a linux circle-jerk, I can't even read it anymore === Johnny is now known as HeresJohhny === HeresJohhny is now known as HeresJohnny === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === IdleOne is now known as Guest61500 === Guest61500 is now known as IdleOne [03:53] hi [03:56] anyway, the Muon software center is more responsive than the Unity one. Thums Up to you :) [03:57] I'm installing the virtual machine manager app. [03:58] Hope it's a good one. And it pulls in the deps. I have AMD-V enabled. [04:18] how do you get desktop icons for removeable media? IE dvdroms [04:49] hi, the KDE partition manager can't create a ext4 partition on a newly initialized disk [04:50] ??? weird. what to do now? [04:52] It just show 'error'... no detail === hns is now known as Guest77049 === magespawn_ is now known as magespawn === MmikeDOMA is now known as Mmike [07:17] how can i bring all windows back to monitor 1? [07:18] if i detach monitor 2 they stay on the virtual monitor so i cant see them anymore [07:35] morning [07:36] on a nfs share, how do i keep mtimes while file transfer from client to server? === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [08:53] http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-mu1892 [08:53] What are those computers? I've never used KRDC on this system before... [09:00] Kottizen: I think zeroconf is looking for vnc servers on your network and adds them automatically. [09:06] hi all.. [09:08] i've got several kubuntu desktops that are offline and would like to perfom installations of addtional packages from a USB stick, whats the best way? [09:09] for example i want all the 'build-essential' dependencies installed with out the clean kubuntu install ever been on the internet [09:11] Good afternoon. amarok segfaults if the external harddisk, where my collection resides, is not mounted. [09:16] version installed is 2.6.0-0ubuntu2.1 [09:50] hey alll === aucislot is now known as neeeeeeeeee [10:19] joins and parts and nick changes! :DD [10:20] hi all [10:20] does donating to Kubuntu also donates to Ubuntu? [10:22] Kubuntu and Ubuntu are funded by different companies now [10:22] so [10:23] if i donate to kubuntu, it won't go to ubuntu? [10:23] well I don't know how one goes about donating money to either [10:24] Riddell: ? [10:46] is tehre a way how i can show lall windows on desktop 1 [10:46] monitor 1 [10:47] since when i disconnect i cant see the others anymore, that belonged to monitor 2 [10:47] milo64: if you donate through canonical then it won't come to kubuntu [10:47] despite what they say, it's not true [10:49] notze I usually get around that by deactivating that monitor before disconnecting, not sure if there is a better solution [10:49] thx for this but i never think about that [10:49] the kde should eb able to reanrange [10:49] yeah like a dozen other things it should do :P [10:50] e.g? [10:50] i used KDE like 5 years ago [10:50] now i thought i give it a try [10:50] but nothing became really better [10:50] okay copy paste and stuff [10:50] but its like a baby [10:50] should handle power management so that screensaver/sleep doesn't come on when a video is playing fullscreen [10:51] can't think of others atm, but they are there :) [10:51] a lotlot [10:51] is gnoem beter regarding this? [10:51] Riddell: i like Kubuntu, but I hate Ubuntu because of Unity :P [10:52] not sure, I haven't used Gnome for years [10:54] gnome sucks. [10:54] milo64: we have a UK bank account if you wish to donate, I've also had people send money to my personal paypal account which I've transfered to the bank account (requires lots of trust) [10:54] hmm? [10:55] i can hardly trust someone.... I am very poor! [10:55] :X === beinghuman is now known as Guest91710 === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [11:35] Quasel client is very noisy.... [11:39] milo64: Noisy how? [11:39] hard to use... etc. [11:40] compared to weechat and xchat :| [11:40] Mhm [11:40] apt-get install irssi ;) [11:41] *sigh* [11:41] * hateball runs Quassel right now btw [11:46] * milo64 throws balls of hates on hateball [11:46] because quassel is noisy [11:48] I don't see how noisy = hard to use [11:48] Do you mean there are a lot of options? [11:48] I'd call that cluttered if anything [11:49] Still... you /join a channel. You type text. Not sure how much you can improve that :) [11:49] nvm [11:49] ¿¿ [11:51] * milo64 clicks "Remove this Show Desktop" [11:51] :| [11:53] milo64: ? [11:53] ¿What? [11:54] it was a joke [11:54] :P === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [12:12] xD === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === rickycezar is now known as Guest6301 [13:49] Audio output failed: The audio device "default" could not be used: No such file or directory. [13:50] Hey all [13:51] Brustofski-Fan, which soundcard? [13:52] BluesKaj: IDT with beatsaudio [13:54] BluesKaj: it happened after i added ( tsched=0 ) is pulseaudio default.pa [13:55] Brustofski-Fan, in the terminal , sudo lshw -C sound , look for the line beginning with "product" [13:56] to what file did you add tsched=0 ? === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [13:57] product: BeaverCreek HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6500D and 6400G-6600G series] [13:57] product: Hudson Azalia Controller [13:57] 2 lines [13:58] I don'y use the hdmi [13:58] hi [13:58] i ll like to loop over files within a folder [13:58] and for each file create a variable [13:58] i tried: [13:58] foreach f (*.smi) [13:58] echo $f \ cut -d. -f1 > $t [13:58] echo $t [13:58] end [13:58] bux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [13:59] !enter [13:59] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [13:59] but it is not working [13:59] Brustofski-Fan, ok open alsamixer in the terminal and check which audio chip is listed in the top left [13:59] i would like the outcome of echo $f | cut -d. -f1 within a variable [13:59] any ideas ? [14:00] BluesKaj: ATI R6xx HDMI [14:02] Brustofski-Fan, ok we need more info , pastebin the out put from , sudo aplay -l [14:04] bux , think you might get an an answer in #ubuntu , chances are 8 or so times greater there [14:06] BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/fJt0GmDR [14:08] Hi Guys [14:08] m running kubuntu 12.10 [14:08] want to upgrade to 13.04 [14:08] please tell me the command [14:09] !upgrade [14:09] For upgrading instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu [14:09] 13.04 not out [14:09] 13.04 daily build [14:10] BluesKaj: Any idea [14:12] earlier it was update-manager-d [14:13] but its not working now [14:14] Brustofski-Fan, in the terminal , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel ...if the audio module loads properly there will be no output [14:16] san, sudo do-release-upgrade -d , if you want to upgrade to 13.04 thru the internet [14:16] Then reboot or what [14:17] ok will try this [14:17] brb [14:17] Brustofski-Fan, open krunner(alt+F2) and do, kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , add this line to the bottom, ' options snd_hda_intel index=0 ', save the file and reboot [14:18] gawd [14:20] BluesKaj: still samething [14:20] Many Thanks guys.. its upgrading [14:21] Brustofski-Fan, you left too soon , open krunner(alt+F2) and do, kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , add this line to the bottom, ' options snd_hda_intel index=0 ', save the file and reboot [14:23] san once upgraded , advice can be had in #ubuntu+1 , all DE's are welcome there [14:24] ok see what happens [14:28] Hi everyone [14:28] BluesKaj: did not help [14:29] Brustofski-Fan, make sure all ctrls in alsamixer are unmuted , noMM in the boxes, and turn them up with the up/down arrow keys === catalyst is now known as Guest74464 [14:30] also Brustofski-Fan what di you do with tsched=0 in pulseaudio default.pa...what's the actual file path [14:31] I'm trying to sync my gmail contacts with kmail. However, the autocompletion doesn't work when try to compose a new mail. I've search the web but it did not really help altough the problem seems to be quite recurent. Do you have any idea [14:31] Don't have any controls to unmute..... onlything that has controls is the hdmi [14:34] Brustofski-Fan, ok , install pavucontrol , and setup the inputs and output devices with that [14:39] BluesKaj: nothing worked but sence it happened when i edited the pulseaudio default.pa.. I restored that file rebooted and now it works [14:39] nicolas__, in gmail create a Contacts.ldif file and just import it into kmail [14:39] also Brustofski-Fan what did you do with tsched=0 in pulseaudio default.pa...what's the actual file path [14:41] don't fool with pulseaudio.pa ..best to install pavucontrol and setup the inputs and output devices with that , if you wish [14:41] Brustofski-Fan ^ [14:42] BluesKaj: VLC screws up.. gets scratchy and lags.. It's supose to be a fix for it [14:47] BluesKaj: Thank you for your response. But from what I see, Gmail does not support LDAP [14:50] I successfully synced the contacts in Kaddressbook. The problem seems to be in the autocompletion of kmail. When I clic "select" in kmail the I can select my contacts. It's "just" autocompletion that doen't work [14:55] nicolas__, well , congratulations on getting kmail to work for you , but I gave up on a while back , I think the ppl at #kde chat can probly help if nobody else can here . [14:56] BluesKaj: Ok, thank you! === mrlukeparry is now known as mrlukeparry_away === Vito_away is now known as Vito === monk is now known as Guest58621 === jan is now known as Guest74112 === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [15:42] Hi, guys. is there a way to make konsole have all the tab-titles the same size? I use %w for a title (so that when i ssh to second or third box the title changes), but when I enter very very long directory path, that tab title stretches and the rest become unreadable [15:50] Mmike: I don't understand! [15:51] give me a screen shot of what it happen [15:51] sec [15:51] imgur [15:51] http://mmike.dyndns.org/~mario/konsole.png [15:51] see how the leftmost tab is wide? [15:52] hmm [15:53] i wouldn't mind that if i were you... Mmike, your intention is to see what directory you are on from the tab name? [15:53] Use 'pwd' [15:53] I'd like it not to grow if there is no room (that is, if I have 10 tabs, I want them all the same size), and, also, I'd like to have them trimmed from the right, not from the left ( so that user@host:/... is always visible, not the ../some/dir part) [15:54] hmm [15:54] actually, I want to know what host I am on in certain tab. Also, 'pwd' is no good as I'd have to switch to that tab first (but, as I've said, I'm more interested in user@host part than in directory part) [15:55] echo "$(whoami)@$(hostname)"... [15:55] nvm then [15:58] milo64, yup, but I have that in my prompt, no point in typing that :) And, %w says 'use what shell is seetting', so that's all good. Just the size and the trimming is not [15:58] :| [15:59] no probls, just wanted to know if it's possible [15:59] I guess hacking that in shouldn't be a problem [15:59] the available time might be, though :/ === Mamarok_ is now known as Guest34406 === Guest34406 is now known as Mamarok === Mamarok is now known as Guest15154 [16:04] anyone live here? [16:04] larry_: 299 people live here counting you and me. === Guest15154 is now known as Mamarok [16:05] unless if there are bots [16:05] ah [16:06] !ubottu [16:06] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [16:06] *sigh* [16:07] larry_: 296 [16:07] nice to know milo [16:07] anyone here aware of the Eiffel programming language/method? [16:07] oh no, gotta go [16:08] he doesn't seem to like eiffel [16:13] trying to help a friend out with Nvidia problem but out of ideas. [16:14] got everything working except she has a cursor that vanishes. [16:16] draciron are you using the nvidia driver ? [16:16] or the opensource one [16:17] and ddo you have an xorg.conf ? [16:17] the navue trapped her in low rez so I had her install the nvidia current from repository. [16:18] an xorg.conf was created when I had her run nvidia-settings [16:19] There used to be a ay long ago to fix that. Something about setting the cursor but been years sinceI had to do that. [16:20] Installing nvidia current got everything working at least after getting kernel source & headersinstalled. [16:21] except for the cursor. It vanishes or button it is over vanishes. [16:21] she's using an old Emachine so I as surprised she had ANY problems with the drivers. === MmikeDOMA is now known as Mmike [16:34] draciron: note that older nVidia cards require older driver editions, not newer ones [16:41] anyone else using yacy? [16:41] cannot seem to locate it using apt-get [16:41] !find yacy [16:41] File yacy found in dooble, jsonbot, openvas-plugins-dfsg [16:42] larry_, what exactly is "yacy" [16:42] yacy = opensource peer search engine without spying by google et al [16:43] got a link? [16:43] yacy.net [16:43] I am putting together with Tor [16:44] (don't like the google-ly eyes spying on every little search and link via chrome and others [16:45] Walex2, only one edition in repository. Nvidia current. Any idea where to get older ones? [16:47] larry_, that page has the tar.gz ; an alternate method suggests adding a repo. neither are supported so good idea to make backups before using either method [16:48] <-- somewhat new to linux. Please define repo? (assuming backup respository) [16:49] draciron: I got 12.04 and i see all three, 'nvidia-current', 'nvidia-96' and 'nvidia-173'. You may have to add more lines to 'sources.list'. Couple links: [16:49] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/nvidia-96 [16:50] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/nvidia-173 [16:53] larry_, a repo is a software repository, a place from which to install software. a search using the terms Ubuntu yacy leads to several links telling exactly how to enable said repos [16:55] larry_: to add a bit to what bazhang said, try to imagine it as an app store. Ubuntu has over 10,000 free sw packages in the standard repo, most of them derived from Debian packages. [16:56] * Walex2 cringes when describing a repository as an app store :-) [16:56] bazhang, ok ... thx [16:56] !repository | larry [16:56] larry: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [17:00] does the "muon package manager" access these repositories to show me what is and is not installed? [17:02] larry, sure, after sudo apt-get update the list is loaded in muon. [17:03] excellent (I am looking at this list now) [17:07] hi i have ubuntu 10.10 on one of my laptops and i prefer gnome with upper and lower panels and applets i can put anywhere i desire. is this option available with kubuntu? i dont like the desktop managers in ubuntu anymore and i am looking for consistancy from what i have had for years. [17:09] sambagirl, KDE has one panel, at the bottom, but that is ajustable to the top/side [17:09] sambagirl, yes to the panels in kubuntu [17:09] *adjustable [17:09] plasma is awesome :-D [17:10] sambagirl, you can add a top panel with the desktop option on the top left [17:11] sambagirl, the normal panel position is at the bottom by default [17:13] for top panel it might be on the topright , sambagirl depending on where the desktop option posititons itself on your install [17:13] so i can't have an upper one and a lower one? [17:13] yes [17:13] i just dont understand why that would be eliminated? just doesnt make any sense. [17:13] why you wouls want 2 is beyond me , but each to his/her own :) [17:14] sorry sambagirl you can have 2 ..i misread [17:15] well the top one would have all my quick launch apps, my applets, date, time, weather, various shells for quick launch. the bottom one has my open apps as well as 6 window i can switch thru or workspaces i suppose. i use compiz extensively. [17:15] yeah , typical gnome setup [17:15] oh ok [17:16] on kde you can everything in one panel [17:16] so what do i need to download cause i backed up my home directory and am about to copy / paste my sticky notes and email them to myself [17:16] i dont like kde [17:16] gnome is my pref [17:16] well kubuntu is kde desktop [17:16] ohhh [17:16] so i should be in xubuntu? [17:17] ahh k for kde i get it [17:17] sorry [17:17] dunno never used xubuntu , do some DE research to see what you might like [17:17] yeah ok thanks [17:17] good luck ":) [17:18] sambagirl, I have set up my KDE almost as it was in gnome2 [17:18] And I like it, most of it :) [17:18] Two pannels, taskbar and pager (virtual destop switcher) at the bottom, 'start' menu, date, system tray etc, at the top [17:18] and launchers (shortcuts) at the top panel too [17:18] really? [17:19] I just wish KDE had nice network/mem-usage/load/etc graphers, as gnome system-monitor applet was :/ [17:19] Mmike, do a prtsrn and imagebin it [17:19] i've looked at probably 100 different distrobutions and while kde is elegant and attractive, i just dont dig it for whatever reason i am not exactly sure. [17:19] sec [17:20] not enough brown and orange ? [17:20] I love linux users. Complain vehemently whenever any app uses the most minescule amount of memory. While using an overly elaborate widget to monitor their memory usage. [17:21] http://mmike.dyndns.org/~mario/mykde.png [17:21] xixor, gnome system-monitor (or system-status, dunno about the name) was realy realy cool. a bit ugly but small, informative, excellent [17:21] don't have my gnome desktop screenshot handy now :/ [17:22] what i LOVE about KDE is ability to turn of composting on-the-fly [17:22] so I can again play my games trough wine! :) [17:22] Mmike: I'm using one of the KDE applet/widgets thing. I have an auto-hiding panel on the right-most edge of the right-most monitor that has a few quick launch buttons on it, but also has a Ksystem monitor applet or something like that, that works quite well. Temperature, memory, HD, network, CPU monitoring [17:23] xixor, mind if I ask for a screenshot? [17:24] sambagirl, xfce is neat, fast, but limited. And lxde is even faster, if you don't mind limitations [17:24] for me, I think I'll stick with KDE, just have to get used to it. [17:25] Mmike: I'm not sure if I have one that shows that panel [17:25] xixor, printscreen? [17:26] Mmike: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1781062/lolnux.png [17:26] because all the KDE widgets i tried for monitoring those thingies are not good. either take too much resources or are unreadable, or... [17:26] thnx, lemme see [17:26] Mmike: I'm not using that computer right now, so can't get one with the hidden panel with the system monitor applet. That is what the desktop looks like though [17:28] xixor, I se [17:28] I see [17:28] i always love to see other people's desktops :) [17:29] what is that red box on your upper panel? [17:46] kde 4.10 beta 1 availbale? [18:02] Riddell: ping [18:24] Hello. I'm running Kubuntu Precise. Today I opened (tried to) Synaptic in order to update a system that was non used since a couple of months and I got the following error message: [18:24] E: Encountered a section with no Package: header [18:24] E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages [18:24] E: Impossibile analizzare o aprire l'elenco dei pacchetti o il file di stato. [18:24] E: _cache->open() failed, please report. [18:25] giving any suggestion, please bear in mind I'm on a very slow connection [18:40] why synaptic? === mrlukeparry_away is now known as mrlukeparry [20:21] why does k3b keep asking me to install mp3 encoding over and over again [20:24] cjae, it's a bug [20:24] ok so they are installed still? [20:25] yes [20:25] check your plugins [20:25] k3b that is [20:27] maybe you need lame codec for m-3 support ? === RaringOne is now known as IdleOne === larry__ is now known as woodstockGAman49 === anderson is now known as Guest79904 [21:31] cjohnston: pong? [21:32] Riddell: are all of the kubuntu blueprints setup and ready on status.ubuntu.com [21:37] cjohnston: they are on launchpad [21:37] * Riddell looks at [21:37] at status.ubuntu.com [21:38] cjohnston: yep looks good === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [21:40] cool. thanks Riddell === david is now known as Guest27878 [21:58] anyone happens to know/have the command to reset the trey icon's icon cache ? [22:10] hi, anyone know how to name/label hdd which has fat32 filesystem, partition manager says this filesystem doesnt support labels, but the external seagate hdd I bought years ago has fat32 and also is name SEA_DISK? thanks [22:40] ed5785434567654: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive#FAT16_and_FAT32 === Guest60347 is now known as Mamarok === Mamarok is now known as Guest73449 === Guest73449 is now known as Mamarok === Guest13320 is now known as Mamarok === Vito is now known as Vito_away [23:27] Hi ,i have avermedia pci analog tv card but no sound in tvtime or kradio4 [23:28] after doing some search i can hear sound with this command "tvtime | arecord -D hw:1,0 -r 32000 -c 2 -f S16_LE | aplay - +" [23:29] but i can't record in radio or tv [23:31] when runing tvtime command at the command line i got this two errors : [23:31] mixer: Can't open mixer default, mixer volume and mute unavailable. [23:31] mixer: Can't open device default/Line, mixer volume and mute unavailable [23:43] After one of my recent upgrades (either to Kubuntu 12.10 or to KDE 4.9.x, not sure), my desktop started going into suspend mode which it has never done in the years before, and should't. Looking at the power settings, it looks like there are no longer any profiles available (although the powermanagementprofilesrc config file does have separate AC/Battery etc. settings). Anyone know what's going on with the power settings? [23:44] wissam: it's sleepy time here... join the -_- zzZZZ [23:45] Also when the UPS kicked in today, the computer shutdown quickly altogether (which it never did before either, and shouldn't until the battery runs out as set in apcupsd)... [23:45] milo64: it's 1:45 here is syria :-" [23:48] I see in the activity power settings you can select 'Act like' AC/battery/low battery... but where does one configure these settings? [23:57] amichair: it is sleepy time for this chan... Come and Join the -_- zzZZZ! :D [23:58] milo64: I would, but I have to get this issue fixed first so the computer doesn't go to sleep as well!