[01:22] oops, it looks like seb128 broke gnome-control-center with his last upload, bug 1081826 [01:22] Launchpad bug 1081826 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center crashes with gtk warning" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1081826 [01:23] I didn't care much for that navigation bar patch any way [01:24] jbicha: what are you plans with regards to seb's plans for the control center? [01:25] well I'm annoyed that that patch came back and isn't Unity-specific [01:25] ready to throw in the towel yet? [01:26] I'm not sure we need ibus 1.4.99 yet [01:26] hi [01:26] can i test your above mentioned stuff using raring daily image? [01:27] maxiaojun: sure, but you'll need to grab gnome-control-center 1:3.6.3-0ubuntu2 as ubuntu3 is broken [01:28] ok [01:31] maxiaojun: but I'm sure it will be fixed tomorrow [01:31] just for record, official ibus channel is #ibus, same net [01:31] ok, i will try it inside VirtualBox anyway [01:33] desrt: not quite yet [01:50] btw, tomorrow in which timezone? [01:52] maxiaojun: probably Europe/Paris [01:54] ok [02:03] concerning two keyboard indicator issue, ibus 1.4.99 may be a chance to fix it [03:58] achiang: no, it wasn't *yet*, it's on my list, but the list is huge :'( [03:59] cyphermox: i'm building a test package now [03:59] cyphermox: or at least attempting to... see my question in #u-devel? [03:59] cyphermox: (aka hopefully i can offload this from you) [04:03] I didn't see it, did you ping me? I didn't get a highlight :) [04:04] got it :P [04:10] cyphermox: backporting r364 was easy. i'm doing a test build now, and then i'll see about also importing some of the other patches related to leaks from upstream's history [04:11] sure. feel free to ask if you're unsure. but the other one you mentioned is still buggy [04:11] cyphermox: which other one? [04:12] g_string_append, that line 432 in src/applet-device-wifi.c [04:12] or at least, it could be better [04:12] if (is_encrypted) { [04:12] icon_desc = g_string_append (icon_desc, ", "); [04:12] icon_desc = g_string_append (icon_desc, _("secure.")); [04:12] } [04:12] that bit? === Optichip is now known as OptiAFK [04:14] yup [04:15] could just as easily be a g_string_append_printf as above rather than two calls :) === OptiAFK is now known as Optichip [04:17] package built fine, so i can send up an MP soon [04:17] not super familiar w/SRU paperwork process though [04:19] achiang: basically, just follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure [04:19] updating the package description and subscribing ubuntu-sru [04:19] cyphermox: ok, will give it a shot [04:19] hopefully this makes your life easier [04:19] :) [04:20] ping me if you need help with nominating the package for the release [04:20] alrighty [04:24] achiang: I really appreciate the help [04:24] cyphermox: maybe one day i'll become motu. :) [04:24] wish i had more time to work on distro [04:24] careful what you wish for ... :) [05:00] cyphermox: https://code.launchpad.net/~achiang/network-manager-applet/precise-lp780602/+merge/135586 [05:37] Good morning [05:39] pitti is the author of jockey and u-d-c ? [05:39] maxiaojun: yes [05:40] cool, two things [05:41] 1. can ubuntu provide a graphical hardware lister instead of requiring people to use 'lspci' ? do you agree with the concept? [05:42] 2. as i asked in previous mailing-list thread, some wifi chips still need b43, can jockey / u-d-c pull it? [05:43] maxiaojun: 1. the "system info" in control-center should provide this [05:43] 2. b43 should now work by default, as we ship the firmware; the wl driver explicitly needs to blacklist it [05:43] but I don't have hardware which works with b43; my dell netbook only works with wl [05:44] so I cannot verify on real hw [05:44] smspillaz: What's the main reason for separating glDraw/glPaint? [05:44] for 2 now means raring or quantal? [05:44] Other than guaranteeing call order in an unknown plugin sequence... [05:44] maxiaojun: precise or quantal [05:44] maybe earlier even, not sure [05:45] how do you ship it? [05:46] it's in linux-firmware, which we install by default [05:46] /lib/firmware/brcm/ [05:47] different from /lib/firmware/b43/ right? [05:48] the path doesn't matter much [05:48] but the content is different [05:49] ah, so that is not "the" b43 fw? [05:50] so if we still need the "other" b43 firmware, the b43-fwcutter package needs to get a Modaliases: header to identify the hardware which needs that firmware [05:50] but only those which don't overlap with wl [05:50] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376507/ [05:51] actually b43-fwcutter package itself needs some update [05:52] i just have one laptop that only b43-fwcutter stuff work [05:53] what's the vendor/product ID of that card? [05:54] anyway, it's better to mention this ^ on a bug report [05:54] 14e4:4331 [05:54] i linked a bug report in previous mailing list thread [05:56] http://pad.lv/912941 [05:56] Launchpad bug 912941 in b43-fwcutter (Ubuntu) "Broadcom 4331 is not supported" [Undecided,Confirmed] [05:57] Good Morning. [05:58] btw, where is "system info", is it a raring thing? [06:06] no, in control-center [06:07] control-center? system settings? [06:07] Details? [06:11] yeah, might be system settings, too; I'm on a German locale, so I don't know the precise English terms [06:11] (the program name is gnome-control-center) [06:12] but that's far from useful i guess [06:12] i cannot know my wifi hardware at all [06:13] a nice related article http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/how-to-get-hardware-information-in.html [06:14] just check the screenshots [06:17] both os x and redmond os can provide detailed hardware information using built-in graphical tool [06:23] os x: http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_big_apple_mac_macbook_hard_disk_drive.html [06:24] redmond os: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_Manager [06:24] we don't have it, we use 'lspci -vvnn' probably with 'grep' [06:25] maxiaojun: feel free to file a "main inclusion request" for your favorite gui hardware display tool [06:26] maxiaojun: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess for details [06:26] among those listed on the above mentioned blog post, HardInfo works best [06:26] but it seems unmaintained since 2009 [06:27] i know there is MIR [06:27] works best i mean on 12.04 [06:33] I wonder when Ubuntu One will be integrated in control center :> [06:34] it is already in it [06:35] But not integrated [06:35] though i just noted a issue that since i bought some music from Ubuntu music store, i already using Ubuntu One [06:36] but the control-center entry still ask me to install Ubuntu One [06:40] good morning [06:41] smspillaz: Ignore that question. I now remember glPaint is for occlusion detection. I wish it was more obvious by the name :{ === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [09:01] seb128_, hey [09:01] larsu, ^ [09:02] seb128, thanks :) [09:03] seb128: this is the crashing seb, right? ;) [09:03] didrocks, I didn't restart my main client with the new lib :p [09:03] <- not crazy [09:03] hey [09:03] seb128 is too clever! [09:03] heh [09:03] I hope I will not need to restart IRC or my session during the day though ;-) [09:04] hey Laney [09:04] stop pinging people I would say |o| [09:23] good morning everyone [09:34] hey chrisccoulson [09:39] chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? [09:39] seb128, yeah, not too bad thanks. how are you? [09:40] chrisccoulson, I'm good thanks [09:49] seb128: bonjour [09:49] seb128: I hate users [09:49] seb128: when you break floppies, they don't stop complaining; then, when you fix floppies, the other half doesn't stop complaining [09:49] well, I don't hate the users really, I hate floppies [09:49] a lot! [09:51] pitti, hey, me too! [09:52] pitti, floppy and acls on filesystems, right? ;-) [09:52] yeah, the ACL bug is still a mystery to me :( [09:54] seb128: ping! [09:54] and seb128 is still up there \o/ [09:55] didrocks, works \o/ [09:55] great :) [09:55] * didrocks waits on jenkins to merge it [09:55] larsu, running my real client under your new patch, working so far ;-) [09:55] then, pushing the trigger [09:56] seb128, I feel honored! ;) Thanks for testing it out [09:58] didrocks, let me know if jenkins takes too long, then I'll merge it manually [09:59] larsu: I'm a little bit frightened about merging manually under jenkins' feet [09:59] didrocks, I've done it a couple of times, it works fine if you set the status to "merged" [10:01] larsu: let me look if it runs [10:01] yep [10:01] larsu: oh it's merged :) [10:01] just having emails lagging [10:01] \o/ [10:01] let me push the trigger for an automated upload [10:01] thanks didrocks! [10:05] larsu: it's building in the ppa now and waiting [10:24] pitti: can you bump the priority of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+build/4004054? we need the fix ASAP on the distro [10:24] the other archs are on a 3-4 minutes timerate, which means it will built in the next 30 minutes I hope : [10:24] :) [10:25] didrocks: oui, je peux [10:25] pitti: un grand merci! :) [10:25] 32 minutes, way better :) [10:25] fini [10:25] larsu: FYI ^ I guess it will be hopefully in proposed in 30 minutes [10:25] (built) [10:25] I meant, 60 minutes [10:25] didrocks: currently building ubiquity and gcc, not the smallest packages [10:26] hm, we used to have three ppc builders [10:26] yesterday, 3 were available [10:26] * didrocks checks [10:26] * pitti asks in #devel [10:26] oh, just 2 today? someone stole the copper! [10:27] didrocks, nice! [10:39] salut mes amis [10:39] seb128, didrocks: I was wondering if we should do a french^WDesktop Development hangout some time soon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Hangouts :-) [10:40] dholbach, hey [10:41] what's the principle? hang out and chat and take questions ? [10:41] morning dholbach :) [10:41] seb128, yes, whatever we want to do, we do - if it's a demo or just a chat or a presentation - everything goes [10:43] dholbach, why not [10:43] sure :) [10:43] personally I think demos always work best [10:44] so it could be "watch seb128 and didrocks, how they update 10 gnome packages in just 5 minutes" [10:44] or whatever else you have to talk about :) [10:44] we should do that when they are gnome updates to do then :) [10:45] which is not this cycle :p [10:45] well, unity update then ;-) [10:46] dholbach: it's a button to push soon [10:46] or even, done daily automatically :) [10:46] ok, then you can just how you slack off all day [10:46] héhé :) [10:46] I'll leave it up to you ;-) [10:46] or we can practise your German [10:47] "cracking the whip" session :) [10:47] or my French [10:47] whatever you feel might interest new folks is very much welcome [10:47] or if you need help somewhere [10:48] dholbach, let's discuss it next week? this week is a bit crazy [10:48] dholbach, around when did you envision doing it? [10:49] seb128, just grab a slot on the wiki page [10:49] whenever you like [10:50] dholbach, ok, I will think about it ;-) [10:50] great === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr_ [12:18] HI does ubuntu 12.10 supports EFISTUB bootloader?thx [12:22] bizhanMona, hey, try asking the question on #ubuntu-devel, bootloader is a bit lower in the stack than what desktop work on [12:36] seb128: thx will do that. [12:51] larsu: seb128: all build steps ok for indicator-messages, just need to wait in 9 minutes next copy to proposed [12:51] didrocks, \o/ [12:51] \o/ [12:59] good morning european people [13:00] desrt, hey [13:01] hey desrt [13:02] larsu: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/indicator-messages/12.10.6daily12.11.22-0ubuntu1 [13:02] (rev 333 \o/) === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [13:25] didrocks, !!! [13:31] didrocks: how did that whole automated uploading thing go from a few days ago? [13:34] desrt: "few" == 2 days in prod now :) [13:34] desrt: seems to work well, larsu quickly broke ubuntu automatically :) [13:35] didrocks: i warned you :) [13:35] desrt: well, we need tests [13:35] dogfooding isn't the only way to rely on things to work :) [13:36] desrt, morning! [13:36] larsu: hi. [13:36] desrt, this crash would have gone in with a regular release as well [13:36] desrt, /me was too stupid for g_variant_get ;) [13:36] we need to test indicator-messages better [13:36] larsu: _everyone_ is too stupid for g_variant_get() [13:36] * desrt fucked it up yesterday too [13:37] although the compiler caught me in this case... [13:37] * desrt had like foo (GAction *action) { gchar *action_name; ... ... g_variant_get (blah, "(..s..)", .., &action, ...); .... use_string (action_name); ... } [13:38] "uh... are you sure action_name is initialised?" [13:38] @#$@#$ g_variant_get [13:42] * desrt wonders why he types 'make -j 16' for webkit and sees 0.39 load average [13:44] desrt, lol. Mine was g_variant_get (v, "(uxsb)", &one, &two, &three) -- crashed when unpacking the 4th value [13:44] interestingly only on x86 [13:44] probably what was happening on amd64 was worse... [13:44] either that or it happened to have a NULL at the end [13:44] in which case the unpack is skipped [13:47] desrt, we really need a gcc extension for it. Like the printf one [13:47] larsu: i tried writing one. it's exceptionally non-trivial. [13:48] i wasted a good 3 days on it at one point [13:48] really? [13:48] holy **** [13:48] ya. gcc extentions are a mess [13:48] there is hope, however [13:48] since then a few people (including mozilla?) have written frameworks for writing gcc extentions in python [13:48] and also: clang [13:49] didrocks: the unity upload you did, only has one of the changes you claim to include =) [13:49] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/123689550/unity_6.12.0-0ubuntu2_6.12.0-0ubuntu3.diff.gz [13:49] xnox: urgh, but wth? [13:49] I applied the two diffs :/ [13:50] grrrr, uploading the new one [13:50] larsu: https://gcc-python-plugin.readthedocs.org/en/latest/working-with-c.html#spell-checking-string-constants-within-source-code [13:50] larsu: this looks like it would be exceptionally easy to deal with [13:50] didrocks: happens, if you use a VCS for debian source packages =/ [13:51] desrt, nice! [13:51] desrt, we could do lots of warnings for glib and glib-object [13:51] larsu: ya... [13:51] xnox: uploaded, thanks :) [13:51] ;-) [13:52] desrt: wow, that is so cooL! [13:52] my favourite would be "you called G_DEFINE_INTERFACE on a vtable struct that doesn't have GInterface as its first member" [13:52] * xnox slowly backs away [13:53] desrt, that happens to people? [13:53] ya [13:53] i do it about once a year [13:53] * larsu apparently writes too few interfaces [13:53] fortunately i'm getting better at recognising the symptoms [13:53] which is approximately [13:53] (1) i've been writing a new interface [13:53] and [13:53] (2) WEIRD things are happening [13:54] haha [14:03] mvo, you need to ping someone if you need a review ;) [14:03] mhr3, doesn't launchpad send you emails? [14:04] mhr3: oh? I was not aare of this [14:04] mhr3: like anyone? or specific people? [14:04] larsu, it does, and there are hundreds of them :P [14:04] mhr3, I was expecting exactly that answer :) [14:04] mvo, probably someone from unity team? :) [14:05] if you don't ping the right person, they'll probably forward it [14:05] mhr3: haha, ok [14:05] mvo, for the stuff you're working on, i'd start with Trevinho or andyrock [14:06] mvo, general rule of thumb: whoever's listed as "author" in the file you patched [14:06] mhr3: yeah, I alredy gave him a review [14:06] mhr3: I didn't write on MR, but I contacted him for few changes [14:07] Trevinho, ah, cool :) [14:08] larsu, hah, i usually just copy those and leave anyone in "Authored by" for double fun :P [14:08] mhr3, haha that sounds like ...... fun?! [14:09] larsu, it's called "make someone suffer" :P [14:10] lol === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [14:19] larsu: btw: 90% chance i won't be in bremen [14:21] desrt, well, there's always a next time :) [14:23] thanks larsu [14:24] Trevinho: I did address the points I think :) or did I miss something? [14:25] Trevinho: aha, ok, got the updated MP now [14:25] :) [14:26] Trevinho: will work on that next, it means I need to implement the desktop-id algorithm in software-center now which looks like a bit of duplication, but maybe there is a implementation of this already (and if not it looks easy enough :) [14:26] mvo: I'm probably hitting another apt bug on switching back now [14:26] :P [14:26] mlankhorst: *nooooo* ;) [14:26] mvo: probably there's something around to compute it... [14:26] mlankhorst: looks like you should consider a career in QA ;) [14:27] mvo: unfortunately gio doesn't provide it, if you load an app via .desktop file it can't compute it's id -_- [14:27] I was trying to force all lts-quantal packages to be unremoved with apt-get install xserver-xorg [14:27] it gives it to you only if you already open an app via its id [14:27] Trevinho: heh :) thats funny, so if you have it already it gives it to you? crazy ;) [14:28] mvo: xserver-xorg has a break and conflicts on xorg-renamed-package http://paste.ubuntu.com/1377183/ [14:29] all of the packages with -lts-quantal in the name provide xorg-renamed-package [14:29] mvo: yeah, exactly :) [14:29] hence none of the packages with lts-quantal in the name should be considered for keeping.. [14:29] mvo: don't know if it's not implemented by purpose or if it's still missing, but that's a fact :/ [14:33] mlankhorst: hmm, yeah, looks like the problem resolver is failing badly, at leat this time its not happening when dpkg is already called === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [14:36] yeah it's a hairy situation though [14:37] I want the problem resolver to come up with 'hey none of the lts-quantal packages work any more, see what else can satisfy it' [14:47] woops [14:48] would probably have helped if I depended on the physical packages there [15:23] seb128, ping [15:23] robru, hey [15:23] hey ;-) [15:23] seb128, ken told me to pester you about some SRUs that he needs to get done, can you help/guide me with that? I know nothing of the SRU process. [15:23] sure [15:24] robru, the documentation is on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [15:24] seb128, ken says he "need needs" unity-chromium-extension gnome-control-center-signon libsignon-glib [15:24] robru, you basically need to have a minimal diff which includes only the changes to fix the issue you want to fix [15:24] seb128, I think ken was saying that they're done, they just need to get approved? [15:26] robru, ok, so basically Ken needs me to find somebody to get those accepted is what you say ;-) [15:26] seb128, yes ;-) [15:28] cyphermox, hi :) [15:28] seb128, hi [15:29] robru, thanks ... pinged the SRU guys [15:29] ricotz, hey [15:29] seb128, there is a rhythmbox gst1.0 build available in my ppa [15:29] the packaging isnt cleaned though, just a "prove of concept" and it works with disabled visualizer-plugin [15:30] ricotz, laney has one as well in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/gstreamer1.0 [15:30] hey [15:30] Laney, btw we should start uploading that stack soon I think ;-) [15:30] ricotz: what did you do? just build the branch? [15:30] seb128, ah i see ;) [15:30] seb128: yeah, there are still some possibly worrying mixed stack cases that dont have any work in progress [15:30] Laney, yes, just the gstreamer-1.0 branch [15:31] ricotz: right, I merged it into the 2.98 tag and applied that diff [15:31] ok, good [15:31] do you know if upstream plans to merge it any time soon? [15:31] sorry, idk [15:31] want to ask? [15:32] seb128, thanks [15:32] hum, I'm out for ~45min trying to debug my aunt machine having email issues, bbiab [15:32] robru, yw! [15:32] cyphermox, jfyi the networkmanager package should be called 0.9.7.0~ since that is what it contains ;) [15:33] miro gtkpod goobox gnomeradio [15:33] those may be broken if we upload the new stack [15:33] also libu1ui [15:33] which AFAICS uses gstreamer just to install fluendo [15:34] Laney, i guess while the visualizer plugins isnt ported it won't get merged [15:34] didrocks, ken and I fixed your concerns here: https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/unity-firefox-extension/inline-packaging/+merge/135237 can you approve now? ;-) [15:34] ricotz: maybe [15:34] didn't the branch have daap disabled too? [15:34] ISTR it being two plugins [15:34] yes [15:35] ricotz: looking! [15:35] mmm [15:35] not sure about uploading to ubuntu with it in that state [15:35] libclutter-gst-dev (>= 1.4) should be libclutter-gst-2.0-dev (>= 1.4), [15:35] didrocks, I have a couple others for review too ;-) [15:35] uh huh [15:35] the version is redundant in that case [15:36] Laney, the clutter-gst api didnt really changed, just bumped for gst1.0 [15:37] hmm, debian/*.prs usr/share/gstreamer-0.10/presets? [15:37] in -data.install [15:37] i already got fixed locally [15:37] not sure if this simply should go in 1.0 [15:37] ok [15:39] Laney, could you push the totem package to gnome3-ppa quantal? [15:39] robru: approved, you can ping your prefered jenkins master to get it merged :) [15:39] ricotz: you should be able to copy it [15:39] if you view the ppa in the web interface [15:40] didrocks, oh, is there more than one? I've been working with vrruiz the last couple days, but he suddenly got busy... [15:40] Laney, not a copy a rebuild with ~ubuntu12.10.1 [15:40] robru: vvruiz, fghinter, alesage or mmrazik :) [15:40] 2 of them are on vacations though [15:40] didrocks, cool thanks [15:40] yw! [15:40] mvo: I'll just open another bug for apt then :) [15:40] Laney, i can grab it too later [15:41] didrocks, hey, you forgot to mark 'approved', you just made a comment ;-) [15:41] might do it after finishing the ubiquity port [15:41] thanks [15:41] ricotz: greenified :) [15:42] didrocks, thanks. and I'm not ricotz ;-) [15:42] robru: speak more! s + smart completion is a general failure :) [15:42] in fact, I should probably remove this weechat "smart completion" [15:42] didrocks, robru, hi, yeah i got a bit confused ;) [15:43] didrocks, so just type 'ro' before hitting tab ;-) [15:43] I use first 2 letters most of the time.. [15:43] robru: yeah, but the thing is supposed to complete by the latest speaking on a channel matching the letters you type [15:43] so one letter + tab is generally enough [15:43] we have too many r and s here :) [15:44] didrocks, ah, well you should file a bug so that you can hit 'tab' multiple times until it gets it right ;-) [15:44] robru: yeah, or just fix it TBH :p [15:44] didrocks, aaaaaannnnnnyyyyyways.... can you review this one too? https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/signon-keyring-extension/inline-packaging/+merge/135496 ;-) [15:45] sure sure :) [15:46] before building, I like it :) [15:46] now, let's see… === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth [15:51] robru: approved! good work :) [15:51]