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| ppisati | brb | 11:28 |
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| === a16g_ is now known as ypwong | ||
| * apw notes he is currently away from his mic | 13:31 | |
| * smb would not have noticed | 13:32 | |
| apw | sconklin, infinity, i have just added mutual exclusion to the last two crontab entries as examplers | 13:57 |
| === edamato is now known as edamato-lunch | ||
| * ppisati -> gos out for a bit | 14:24 | |
| ppisati | *goes | 14:24 |
| * apw wanders home | 14:24 | |
| === edamato-lunch is now known as edamato | ||
| AbsintheSyringe | when will kernel3.6 get into quantal? | 15:51 |
| apw | AbsintheSyringe, quantal will not get any version bumps | 16:01 |
| AbsintheSyringe | apw, it will remain on 3.5? | 16:02 |
| apw | yes | 16:02 |
| AbsintheSyringe | :-/ | 16:02 |
| apw | this has always been how things are in stable releases | 16:02 |
| apw | for any and all packages | 16:02 |
| AbsintheSyringe | I thought it would move to 3.6 for some reason | 16:03 |
| AbsintheSyringe | the reason I'm asking is because I'm coming from Debian Sid and I used 3.6.2 afaik and it all worked fine | 16:03 |
| AbsintheSyringe | however on quantal (3.5) my machine tends to get bit hot | 16:03 |
| AbsintheSyringe | ThinkPad X1 Carbon | 16:03 |
| apw | debian sid is the deveopment release | 16:03 |
| AbsintheSyringe | I'm aware of that | 16:03 |
| apw | raring is ours, and has 3.7 kernels in it | 16:03 |
| AbsintheSyringe | I think I might do apt pinning and install 3.7 from raring | 16:04 |
| xnox | apw: but the raring kernel will at some point in the future be available on precise? | 16:04 |
| apw | xnox, in precise it will be made available, sometime after raring releases | 16:05 |
| xnox | interesting. | 16:05 |
| xnox | thanks. | 16:05 |
| apw | opt-in only of course | 16:05 |
| apw | AbsintheSyringe, if you work out the incantations to get that working i would be interested | 16:07 |
| AbsintheSyringe | apw, after 5+ years on Debian Sid I was trying to get some bit more stable with Ubuntu | 16:07 |
| AbsintheSyringe | apw, it's kinda awkward coming from Debian Sid to Ubuntu "Sid" :) | 16:08 |
| AbsintheSyringe | but am thinking about it | 16:08 |
| xnox | ... and first thing you do is mix two releases. | 16:08 |
| xnox | AbsintheSyringe: to be honest maybe you should run raring. As all uploads go into raring-proposed & britney migrates them to raring, but without waiting for 10 days delay nor checking for RC bugs. | 16:09 |
| apw | AbsintheSyringe, your other option is to try and work out what the fix was in 3.6 for your issue; and we can sru that into Q | 16:09 |
| xnox | AbsintheSyringe: that way it's more stable than sid, yet still with high-velocity crack. | 16:09 |
| AbsintheSyringe | xnox, am seriously considering option | 16:10 |
| AbsintheSyringe | apw, how much do you prefer the apt pinning option? | 16:10 |
| apw | prefer it over what? | 16:11 |
| AbsintheSyringe | because back on debian I had, apt pinning with testing and experimental | 16:11 |
| AbsintheSyringe | over doing a "bare" upgrade on raring | 16:11 |
| AbsintheSyringe | this way I could still use quantal but use the raring kernel | 16:11 |
| apw | i don't apt pin anything currently, i have some systems on Q and some on R | 16:11 |
| apw | R has been supprisingly ok so far on those, but they are far from production platforms | 16:12 |
| * xnox runs raring since opening. | 16:12 | |
| apw | xnox, but X hasn't updated yet, so who knows how smooth that will be | 16:12 |
| AbsintheSyringe | xnox, is that your "production" machine? | 16:12 |
| AbsintheSyringe | apw, right | 16:12 |
| ogra-cb | qunatal was really smooth | 16:12 |
| xnox | well I have raring with quantal-updates & quantal-security enabled. I am still seeing stuff uploaded into quantal pockets without matching raring upload. | 16:13 |
| * ogra-cb wouldnt expect worse from raring | 16:13 | |
| xnox | AbsintheSyringe: my definition of "production" is skewed, as it's part of my job to fix ubuntu if ubuntu+1 is broken. | 16:13 |
| AbsintheSyringe | according to status raring is 14% complete http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/ | 16:13 |
| apw | ogra-cb, i don't remember it being quite that smooth, i remember a couple of my boxed being a heap for some days | 16:13 |
| ogra-cb | appulli, yeah, because you use that intel crap :P | 16:14 |
| ogra-cb | err | 16:14 |
| ogra-cb | apw, | 16:14 |
| xnox | AbsintheSyringe: that's feature work only. On day one we synced hundrets of package updates from debian. | 16:14 |
| apw | xnox, those get 'sorted' by archive-admin intervention over time though i believe | 16:14 |
| xnox | =) | 16:14 |
| apw | ogra-cb, heh indeed i do, the stuff they claimed to have tested too :) | 16:15 |
| AbsintheSyringe | I think I'll give raring a go, it can't be worse then Sid that's for sure :) | 16:15 |
| ogra-cb | haha | 16:15 |
| apw | AbsintheSyringe, it has been better than average so far at least here | 16:15 |
| ogra-cb | definitely flawless on my chromebook here | 16:16 |
| AbsintheSyringe | wow | 16:16 |
| xnox | AbsintheSyringe: do not enable raring-proposed, as by definitions packages there are yet to built & be installable. | 16:16 |
| apw | yeah very important, no -proposed as you are in a world of pain there | 16:17 |
| apw | xnox, that said that is also where a huge pile of the updates from debian are lurking | 16:17 |
| ogra-cb | proposed should never be used ever | 16:17 |
| AbsintheSyringe | xnox, tnx | 16:17 |
| ogra-cb | only for cherry picking packages for tests | 16:17 |
| AbsintheSyringe | apw, situation on Sid right now is pain, a lot of pain | 16:18 |
| xnox | apw: that is simply intensives to fix stuff pointed out by britney. | 16:18 |
| ogra-cb | (thats not raring specific) | 16:18 |
| xnox | "do you want this shiny package? well fix this armhf build failure first and then you can have it!" | 16:18 |
| ogra-cb | hehe | 16:18 |
| apw | if only it worked like that :) | 16:19 |
| xnox | in practice, you have doko syncing straight into raring-release bypassing this kindergarden =) | 16:19 |
| ogra-cb | haha | 16:20 |
| apw | heh, i didn't know one could do that | 16:20 |
| ogra-cb | qwll, you shouldnt :) | 16:20 |
| ogra-cb | Well even | 16:20 |
| xnox | apw: only if you happen to have archive-admin rights & use outofdate ubuntu-dev-tools / copypackage. | 16:20 |
| AbsintheSyringe | xnox apw will do the job? sudo sed -i 's/quantal/raring/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo update-manager -d -c | 16:22 |
| apw | either update-manager -d, or sed... update ... dist-upgrade | 16:24 |
| AbsintheSyringe | oh-kie | 16:24 |
| smb | apw -> do-release-upgrade -d | 16:24 |
| smb | (i suppose by now it was fixed) | 16:24 |
| xnox | AbsintheSyringe: update-manager -d (graphical) or do-release-upgrade -d (text only) same functionality otherwise. | 16:27 |
| AbsintheSyringe | xnox, k, tnx | 16:32 |
| infinity | hggdh: Any progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-armadaxp/+bug/1068733 ? | 18:22 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1068733 in linux-armadaxp (Ubuntu Precise) "linux-armadaxp: 3.2.0-1610.15 -proposed tracker" [Undecided,In progress] | 18:22 |
| infinity | hggdh: Will it be done today? :) | 18:22 |
| infinity | hggdh: Pretty please? :) | 19:06 |
| hggdh | infinity: it's turkey day in the US. I got some scripts from rbasak yesterday, and will work on them tomorrow | 19:23 |
| hggdh | (I was only at the laptop cuz my bloody internet connection went south again) | 19:23 |
| infinity | hggdh: Ah, I didn't check the directory to see if you're American. :P | 19:25 |
| hggdh | infinity: I am now :-) | 19:25 |
| infinity | Heh. | 19:25 |
| infinity | Enjoy your turkeying, then. | 19:26 |
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