=== smb` is now known as smb [11:28] brb === a16g_ is now known as ypwong [13:31] * apw notes he is currently away from his mic [13:32] * smb would not have noticed [13:57] sconklin, infinity, i have just added mutual exclusion to the last two crontab entries as examplers === edamato is now known as edamato-lunch [14:24] * ppisati -> gos out for a bit [14:24] *goes [14:24] * apw wanders home === edamato-lunch is now known as edamato [15:51] when will kernel3.6 get into quantal? [16:01] AbsintheSyringe, quantal will not get any version bumps [16:02] apw, it will remain on 3.5? [16:02] yes [16:02] :-/ [16:02] this has always been how things are in stable releases [16:02] for any and all packages [16:03] I thought it would move to 3.6 for some reason [16:03] the reason I'm asking is because I'm coming from Debian Sid and I used 3.6.2 afaik and it all worked fine [16:03] however on quantal (3.5) my machine tends to get bit hot [16:03] ThinkPad X1 Carbon [16:03] debian sid is the deveopment release [16:03] I'm aware of that [16:03] raring is ours, and has 3.7 kernels in it [16:04] I think I might do apt pinning and install 3.7 from raring [16:04] apw: but the raring kernel will at some point in the future be available on precise? [16:05] xnox, in precise it will be made available, sometime after raring releases [16:05] interesting. [16:05] thanks. [16:05] opt-in only of course [16:07] AbsintheSyringe, if you work out the incantations to get that working i would be interested [16:07] apw, after 5+ years on Debian Sid I was trying to get some bit more stable with Ubuntu [16:08] apw, it's kinda awkward coming from Debian Sid to Ubuntu "Sid" :) [16:08] but am thinking about it [16:08] ... and first thing you do is mix two releases. [16:09] AbsintheSyringe: to be honest maybe you should run raring. As all uploads go into raring-proposed & britney migrates them to raring, but without waiting for 10 days delay nor checking for RC bugs. [16:09] AbsintheSyringe, your other option is to try and work out what the fix was in 3.6 for your issue; and we can sru that into Q [16:09] AbsintheSyringe: that way it's more stable than sid, yet still with high-velocity crack. [16:10] xnox, am seriously considering option [16:10] apw, how much do you prefer the apt pinning option? [16:11] prefer it over what? [16:11] because back on debian I had, apt pinning with testing and experimental [16:11] over doing a "bare" upgrade on raring [16:11] this way I could still use quantal but use the raring kernel [16:11] i don't apt pin anything currently, i have some systems on Q and some on R [16:12] R has been supprisingly ok so far on those, but they are far from production platforms [16:12] * xnox runs raring since opening. [16:12] xnox, but X hasn't updated yet, so who knows how smooth that will be [16:12] xnox, is that your "production" machine? [16:12] apw, right [16:12] qunatal was really smooth [16:13] well I have raring with quantal-updates & quantal-security enabled. I am still seeing stuff uploaded into quantal pockets without matching raring upload. [16:13] * ogra-cb wouldnt expect worse from raring [16:13] AbsintheSyringe: my definition of "production" is skewed, as it's part of my job to fix ubuntu if ubuntu+1 is broken. [16:13] according to status raring is 14% complete http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/ [16:13] ogra-cb, i don't remember it being quite that smooth, i remember a couple of my boxed being a heap for some days [16:14] appulli, yeah, because you use that intel crap :P [16:14] err [16:14] apw, [16:14] AbsintheSyringe: that's feature work only. On day one we synced hundrets of package updates from debian. [16:14] xnox, those get 'sorted' by archive-admin intervention over time though i believe [16:14] =) [16:15] ogra-cb, heh indeed i do, the stuff they claimed to have tested too :) [16:15] I think I'll give raring a go, it can't be worse then Sid that's for sure :) [16:15] haha [16:15] AbsintheSyringe, it has been better than average so far at least here [16:16] definitely flawless on my chromebook here [16:16] wow [16:16] AbsintheSyringe: do not enable raring-proposed, as by definitions packages there are yet to built & be installable. [16:17] yeah very important, no -proposed as you are in a world of pain there [16:17] xnox, that said that is also where a huge pile of the updates from debian are lurking [16:17] proposed should never be used ever [16:17] xnox, tnx [16:17] only for cherry picking packages for tests [16:18] apw, situation on Sid right now is pain, a lot of pain [16:18] apw: that is simply intensives to fix stuff pointed out by britney. [16:18] (thats not raring specific) [16:18] "do you want this shiny package? well fix this armhf build failure first and then you can have it!" [16:18] hehe [16:19] if only it worked like that :) [16:19] in practice, you have doko syncing straight into raring-release bypassing this kindergarden =) [16:20] haha [16:20] heh, i didn't know one could do that [16:20] qwll, you shouldnt :) [16:20] Well even [16:20] apw: only if you happen to have archive-admin rights & use outofdate ubuntu-dev-tools / copypackage. [16:22] xnox apw will do the job? sudo sed -i 's/quantal/raring/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo update-manager -d -c [16:24] either update-manager -d, or sed... update ... dist-upgrade [16:24] oh-kie [16:24] apw -> do-release-upgrade -d [16:24] (i suppose by now it was fixed) [16:27] AbsintheSyringe: update-manager -d (graphical) or do-release-upgrade -d (text only) same functionality otherwise. [16:32] xnox, k, tnx [18:22] hggdh: Any progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-armadaxp/+bug/1068733 ? [18:22] Launchpad bug 1068733 in linux-armadaxp (Ubuntu Precise) "linux-armadaxp: 3.2.0-1610.15 -proposed tracker" [Undecided,In progress] [18:22] hggdh: Will it be done today? :) [19:06] hggdh: Pretty please? :) [19:23] infinity: it's turkey day in the US. I got some scripts from rbasak yesterday, and will work on them tomorrow [19:23] (I was only at the laptop cuz my bloody internet connection went south again) [19:25] hggdh: Ah, I didn't check the directory to see if you're American. :P [19:25] infinity: I am now :-) [19:25] Heh. [19:26] Enjoy your turkeying, then.