[00:03] <keithzg_> resolvconf keeps appending "nameserver 127.0.0.1" to my server's resolv.conf, which breaks internal DNS resolution; is there any way to tell it to *not* append that line? I can't even work out exactly where it's entering from.
[00:05] <Tact>  resolvconf keeps appending "nameserver 127.0.0.1" to my
[00:05] <Tact>                   server's resolv.conf, which breaks internal DNS resolution;
[00:05] <Tact>                   is there any way to tell it to *not* append that line? I
[00:06] <Tact>                   can't even work out exactly where it's entering from.
[00:06] <Tact> exit
[00:06] <keithzg_> ...?
[00:10] <ScottK> keithzg_: Might be dnsmasq.
[00:12] <keithzg_> ScottK: That was my suspicion, but if so I'm unclear from where or if I could change it; /etc/dnsmasq.conf doesn't exist, and /etc/dnsmasq.d consists solely of libvirt-bin, which in turn is quite simple: "bind-interfaces    except-interface=virbr0"
[00:12]  * keithzg_ is stumped
[00:13] <ScottK> stgraber knows about this stuff.  Maybe he's around.
[00:13] <sarnold> keithzg_: was it added via an /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf 'prepend doman-name-servers' directive?
[00:14] <keithzg> sarnold: I see "#prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;" so it's commented out
[00:15] <sarnold> keithzg: has dhclient been restarted since that file was edited?
[00:16] <keithzg> sarnold: looks like that was in September, so, yup ;)
[00:16] <sarnold> keithzg: :)
[00:58]  * lvmer ... is back. xD  :)
[01:26] <lvmer> Anyone want to help me with a 'samba' problem?  I'm testing samba logins... but win7 is caching my passwords... and keeping me logged in under the same name. During testing I'm getting the msg, "multiple connections to a server or shared resource by the same user, using more than one user name, are not allowed."  Only way I know how to logout is to restart my win7 computer.... :/
[01:31] <keithzg> you could always restart the "browser" service, or whatever it's called on Windows.
[01:46] <noliverh> anyone willing to help me here?
[01:47] <noliverh> im going to setup ubuntu server now....
[01:47] <noliverh> which is best... SLT or 2.10
[01:48] <sarnold> noliverh: do you want five years of support or 18 months of support?
[02:21] <noliverh> sarnold: what is that all mean?
[02:22] <noliverh> if i want a 5 year support... what's with it?
[02:22] <noliverh> and what's with 18 months of support?
[02:22] <noliverh> is there a rate of payment with regards to the support?
[02:22] <lifeless> noliverh: things move very quickly
[02:23] <lifeless> noliverh: the support spoken about is free. You can also get commercial support.
[02:23] <lifeless> noliverh: so to deal with things moving quickly we do lots of releases (one every 6 months)
[02:23] <sarnold> noliverh: the LTS release has five years of support; the 12.10 release has only 18 months of support. If you want five years of support, then the 12.04 LTS release is probably the better choice.
[02:23] <lifeless> noliverh: but that makes its own problem, there are then lots of versions people want to get bug fixes, so we only promise to do that for 18 months per version.
[02:24] <sarnold> noliverh: the 12.10 release will be supported for 18 months; you could also upgrade that machine every six months to stay more current, if you wish.
[02:24] <lifeless> noliverh: and then finally because some people want to change their environment only every few years, once every 2 years we do a long term supported release, which gets 3 years on desktop, 5 on server.
[02:25] <noliverh> lifeless: so that means it much better to have a fresh software every six months
[02:26] <sarnold> some people prefer fresh
[02:26] <sarnold> some people prefer no changes
[02:26] <noliverh> i want to setup a server for our school
[02:26] <sarnold> (see the popularity of windows xp :)
[02:26] <noliverh> DNS
[02:26] <noliverh> what should be the best?
[02:26] <noliverh> LTS?
[02:26] <sarnold> in that position I would probably pick LTS
[02:27] <noliverh> sarnold: so i will choose LTS then...
[02:27] <noliverh> is also better to have a Domain Controller and File Server on one machine?
[02:28] <noliverh> what should be your recommendations sarnold?
[02:28] <noliverh> :D
[02:29] <sarnold> most network admins like to have their DNS servers do only DNS -- DNS is an extremely vital service, and without it very little else works properly -- so most admins try to reduce the chances of another service on the machine interfering with DNS
[02:29] <sarnold> noliverh: but if your budget makes running dedicated DNS servers impossible, then yes, you can run multiple services on the machine
[02:31] <noliverh> sarnold: ok... does the ubuntu server can also handle windows clients especially windows 7?
[02:32] <sarnold> noliverh: yes, the samba server can serve files to windows clients
[02:37] <noliverh> sarnold: thanks a lot!
[02:38] <sarnold> noliverh: have fun :)
[02:54] <noliverh> sarnold: question: can i have a Domain Controller in a sub-office asside of the whole office?
[02:56] <noliverh> is mIRC can run on ubuntu also?
[03:47] <sarnold> noliverh: no idea on domain controllers; I haven't really done windows in ages.
[03:47] <sarnold> noliverh: you _could_ run mirc through wine, but I recommend against it. Use xchat or quassel or something else tolerable.
[03:58] <qman__> it's possible, but why you would want to is unfathomable
[03:58] <qman__> linux has a much better selection of IRC clients than windows
[04:00] <noliverh> what irc that is better in linux?
[04:01] <noliverh> qman__: what is the most commonly used irc in linux?
[04:01] <noliverh> i just want to install it in my ubuntu
[04:03] <qman__> you probably already have irssi, and xchat is also very common
[04:04] <qman__> you may also already have that depending on what version you installed
[04:10] <lvmer> why when I try to $ apt-get remove vim-common   .... does it say 'ubuntu-minimal' will be removed ?
[04:11] <qman__> because ubuntu-minimal depends on vim-common
[04:11] <qman__> or it depends on something else that depends on vim-common
[04:12] <lvmer> qman_: so I can't remove it?
[04:12] <lvmer> qman_: I'm pretty sure I removed it on another server, but I don't remember 'ubuntu-minimal' coming up.
[04:12] <qman__> well, you can, but it's probably not a good idea
[04:12] <qman__> not sure why you'd want to
[04:12] <lvmer> qman_: but ^^ that's irrelevant
[04:13] <qman__> actually it's quite relevant
[04:13] <qman__> the point is to find out what your actual goal is
[04:14] <qman__> and fish out any X Y problems
[04:14] <hypergrove> hi all - newbie q: i have just created an instance of ubuntu server, have signed on wit putty, but I'm unable to perform apt-get -- can someone help get me started?
[04:14] <lvmer> qman_: removing vim was my only goal, just for fun. & if I had a goal I would've stated it.
[04:14] <hypergrove> i'm at aws sorry
[04:15] <hallyn> hypergrove: what do you mean 'unable to perform apt-get' - did you do 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[04:15] <qman__> lvmer, then the answer is don't do that
[04:15] <lvmer> qman_: yah I don't have it on my other server. Who knows how important ubuntu-minimal is.
[04:16] <hypergrove> I did sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5 php5-mysql
[04:16] <hallyn> hypergrove: and waht did it say?
[04:16] <hallyn> !pastebin
[04:17] <lvmer> perhaps ubuntu-minimal came up because it was going to get altered? I don't get it.... apt-get show or w\e shows it as required & dependant on 'boot'.... but everything still works.....
[04:18] <lvmer> not a fan of ubuntu scaring me like that.
[04:19] <qman__> there's no such thing as altered
[04:19] <hypergrove> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376412/
[04:19] <qman__> if it says it's going to be removed, it's going to be removed
[04:19] <lvmer> yah it's not on the dpkg list, just a guess.
[04:20] <qman__> ubuntu-minimal is a metapackage that depends on a lot of core packages
[04:20] <lvmer> qman_: what should I expect it to affect? I already uninstalled it & rebooted... everything looks good.
[04:20] <ScottK> hypergrove: That looks like a networking problem at amazon to me.
[04:23] <hypergrove> ok i'll ask them about it, thanks
[04:28] <hallyn> hypergrove: might be worth doing an apt-get update first...  but yeah the errors were weird
[04:29] <hypergrove> something like https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-cloud-announce/2012-April/000022.html?
[04:47] <hypergrove> executed the apt-get update and manually disabled http pipelining, and then performed apt-get install apache and others... but when I do "ls" i see nothing.... what gives please?
[04:48] <hypergrove> why am I unable to list /home or /home/ubuntu
[04:50] <hypergrove> please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376453/ -- thanks!
[04:52] <hypergrove> ah sudo ls ../..
[05:10] <sarnold> hypergrove: perhaps you wanted 'ls -a', which also shows the usually-hidden dotfiles  ?
[05:29] <noliverh> 1
[05:29] <noliverh> 2
[05:29] <noliverh> ±
[05:29] <noliverh> ²
[05:29] <noliverh> how can i switch to other channel?
[05:30] <noliverh> im using irssi right now
[05:30] <noliverh> 4
[05:30] <sarnold> noliverh: /win 2
[05:30] <sarnold> noliverh: alt+a will switch to 'active window'
[05:32] <noliverh> kewl....
[05:32] <noliverh> thanks sarnold
[06:19] <lvmer> I'm having trouble forcing a directory remove
[06:20] <lvmer> even when I --ignore.... blah blah blah
[07:36] <noaXess> moorning
[07:36] <noaXess> on a nfs share, how do i keep mtimes while file transfer from client to server?
[07:38] <sarnold> noaXess: cp -a implies --preserve=all, which includes timestamps.. --preserve=timestamps if you don't care about the other preseved attributes
[07:39] <noaXess> sarnold: so not a nfs problem?
[07:39] <noaXess> i do syncs with rsync.. and it does not keep times
[07:39] <sarnold> noaXess: rsync's --times option also says it'll preserve modification time...
[07:40] <noaXess> -t you mean. ihave it.. but files are new created on nfs server while transfer
[07:52] <noaXess> if i do a rsync -avz /source/dir/ /dest/dir/ it does not preserver times.. it only preserver perms
[07:53] <noaXess> destination is on a nfs server
[08:18] <abhishek> hey guys
[08:20] <Guest32531> I have just installed ubuntu server and also setup webmin but I am having some issues with server so that people can access it publically
[08:20] <Guest32531> can someone help me with this?
[08:21] <Akendo> hi frozzenfire
[08:21] <frozzenfire> hi Akendo
[08:21] <Akendo> Can you define "publically"
[08:22] <Akendo> Does that mean via a Public IP Address?
[08:22] <frozzenfire> Ok current I can only access the server through internal network.  the IP address of this server is 192.168.1.5
[08:23] <frozzenfire> so I need to setup in a way that if someone puts in a specific IP address anywhere in the world they would be able to connect to this local server i have setup
[08:23] <frozzenfire> I am currently with Verizon Fios ISP
[08:24] <frozzenfire> and I have 3 computers attached to this internet out of which 1 is the Ubuntu Server
[08:24] <frozzenfire> its designed for development
[08:24] <Akendo> I can recommand DynDNS for this, that will allow you to define a own Hostname. This will be dynamicly updated so that you can always can get to your home System. The next step is to configure your netowrk Router corretly
[08:25] <Akendo> What kind of Route do you have?
[08:25] <frozzenfire> The standard Verizon Fios router
[08:26] <frozzenfire> 50MBPS Down 25MBPS Up
[08:28] <Akendo> Then you have to connect to your Route and enable port forwarding. One thing first! This means you will forward Internet traffic into your loacl network. This can be dangours. Be sure that your local system are update and configure corretly. This can be give a attacker room
[08:29] <Akendo> By Forwading ensure a) Only to forward the port with the right IP address
[08:29] <Akendo> B) That this host is secured
[08:29] <frozzenfire> I did all the port forwarding actually Akendo but its still not resolving
[08:29] <frozzenfire> i have privately shared a link with you actually
[08:29] <frozzenfire> you can see it as well
[08:29] <Akendo> What Port did you forward?
[08:30] <frozzenfire> http: 80
[08:31] <frozzenfire> HTTP
[08:31] <frozzenfire> TCP Any -> 80 to 192.168.1.5
[08:32] <frozzenfire> HTTPS
[08:32] <frozzenfire> TCP Any -> 443 to 192.168.1.5
[08:32] <frozzenfire> oh wait
[08:32] <frozzenfire> it worked this time
[08:32] <frozzenfire> seriously now? lol
[08:33] <frozzenfire> ok so check this
[08:33] <frozzenfire> 108.53.20.129
[08:33] <frozzenfire> this is forwarding to the server
[08:33] <frozzenfire> however
[08:33] <frozzenfire> i have webmin installed
[08:33] <frozzenfire> so https://108.53.20.129:10000 should go to webmin CP
[08:33] <frozzenfire> and its now
[09:03] <Akendo> Great ;-)
[09:07] <noaXess> any idea, why rsync don't preserve times on a nfs share, even if this options are used? rsync -rptogzv
[09:28] <Akendo> Sometime route take some time to enable the forward port
[09:28] <Akendo> frozzenfire, Still working ;-) ?
[09:28] <frozzenfire> OHH yea :)
[09:28] <frozzenfire> im enjoying this :)
[09:28] <frozzenfire> Thanks a lot bud! :)
[09:32] <Akendo> Nothing to thank for, you did the work
[09:37] <Daviey> jamespage: We need a better way of announcing changes to the cloud archive.  I was thinking a cloud-archive-changes@lists.ubuntu.com list?
[09:37] <frozzenfire> btw does cPanel support Ubuntu?
[09:38] <mvp> frozzenfire afaik no
[09:38] <frozzenfire> dam
[09:54] <jamespage> Daviey, would that be all package uploads? or just release/milestone announcements?
[09:56] <Daviey> jamespage: i was thinking a raring-release style list
[09:56] <Daviey> each package, as it hits proposed and updates
[09:56] <jamespage> Daviey, raring-changes right?
[09:57] <Daviey> uhh, yeah
[10:04] <jamespage> Daviey, I think that would be great
[10:04] <jamespage> cloud-archive-announce would be useful as well
[10:05] <jamespage> lower volume stuff
[10:06] <Daviey> jamespage: right, thanks for confirming :)
[10:25] <jamespage> Daviey, any chance you can flush the missing bits of ceph into the folsom cloud archive - http://no-carrier.net/ca-versions
[10:35] <Daviey> jamespage: Yes, i will do that shortly
[10:38] <jamespage> Daviey, ta muchly
[10:39] <jamespage> Daviey, I'll probably add something to http://pad.daviey.com/grizzly-ppa-email to that effect as well
[10:53] <Daviey> jamespage: can you confirm what process you did for the walinuxganet?
[10:53] <Daviey> agent*
[10:53] <Daviey> Ie, how did you upgrade test?
[10:53] <jamespage> utlemming provided me with some instances to test on
[10:53] <jamespage> I built the packages locally, then uploaded and upgraded using dpkg
[10:54] <jamespage> I also tested in a schroot using an local apt repository and some simulated data to ensure it stayed intact during the upgrade process
[10:54] <jamespage> Daviey, ^^
[10:54] <Daviey> jamespage: sounds good, if you upload now, i'll sru process it.
[10:55] <jamespage> Daviey, hmm - not yet; there is a second issue related to ssh public key re-generation I don't really understand as yet; utlemmings branch did some additianl sed -i munging which looks awkward to me
[10:55] <Daviey> jamespage: I did have to itch my head if it should be > binaryversion for the predepend
[10:56] <Daviey> oh
[10:57] <Daviey> jamespage: hmm, should we overload ubuntu-cloud-anounce for CA annoucmentments?
[10:57] <Daviey> (i think we should)
[10:57] <jamespage> Daviey: OK with me
[10:57] <Daviey> supe
[10:57] <Daviey> r
[11:44] <Daviey> jamespage: do you know if adam made any progress with his CA tracker?
[11:45] <jamespage> Daviey, its functional again
[11:45] <jamespage> http://no-carrier.net/ca-versions
[11:46] <Daviey> jamespage: i wanted to get it on http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports .. but looks like he didn't quite get it ready for merging to the bzr tree
[11:53] <jamespage> Daviey, he's only been back two days :-) I asked him to sync up the lab charms with trunk which he worked on yesterday
[12:03] <Daviey> jamespage: oh sure.. i just wondered if you knew if it had been done :)
[12:13] <Daviey> jamespage: can you see any reason why grizzly pocket of cloud archive shouldn't be seeded with the contents of folsom pocket?
[12:13] <jamespage> Daviey:  I think that makes a huge amount of sense
[12:13] <jamespage>  and is what I did for the lab PPA's
[12:13] <Daviey> ok, thanks
[12:56] <arpu> hello what is the recommend vm solution for 12.04 lts ? openvz kvm ? for webserver hosting
[12:57] <arpu> or maas (openvz) and juju ?
[13:05] <Akendo> Hello jamespage,  i found my issue with the authx problem
[13:05] <Akendo> I didn't add the keys of my client corret to the keyring. So there could access to corret to the Cluster
[13:06] <Akendo> cound't
[13:08] <jamespage> Akendo, \o/
[13:08] <jamespage> if names don't match the keys won't work - I discovered that the hard way to!
[13:18] <alex88> hi guys, is possible that md arrays generate lot of load in case of high i/o
[13:18] <alex88> ?
[13:25] <jamespage> zul, https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/d3fd05b1f8889d9f39b8eb5be3f7e7798d648206 just broke the lab
[13:26] <jamespage> zul, removing a default for a flag in stable seems like a really bad idea to me
[13:35] <jamespage> zul, never mind - I see adam_g already proposed a fix - he must have noticed it while testing the charms last night
[13:41] <Akendo> The only thing that is not working, glance image-list is not working
[13:41] <Akendo> Even the images can be used normaly
[13:41] <Akendo> Spwaned VM's
[13:41] <Akendo> No problem
[13:42] <Akendo> Only listing them is a problem
[13:44] <jamespage> Akendo, OK - ceph 0.48.2 just landed in the cloud archive for folsom
[13:44] <Akendo> :)
[13:44] <jamespage> I'll spin it up with openstack in the CI lab and see if I can reproduce
[13:45] <jamespage> (although I happen to know that nova is borked in stable/folsom atm - see above)
[13:46] <jamespage> but I can still test glance!
[13:46] <zul> jamespage:  yeah you are a bit slow
[13:47] <jamespage> zul, as always :-)
[13:47] <jamespage> zul, can you get that landed? or does it need someone else's magic approval
[13:48] <zul> adam_g: said he wanted someone from the community to look at it
[13:52] <jamespage> Daviey, when do you think the lists will be up and running?
[13:52] <jamespage> *list
[13:53] <zul> jamespage: but yeah we can apply the patch before it gets applied upstream to get things going again
[13:54] <Daviey> jamespage: they are now
[14:03] <zul> jamespage: i temporarily added adam_g patch so you can get tests going again
[14:03] <jamespage> zul, coolio
[14:08] <Daviey> zul: erm
[14:08] <Daviey> i just landed it?
[14:08] <zul> Daviey: the upstream fix?
[14:08] <Daviey> yeah
[14:08] <zul> oh..
[14:08] <zul> crap...just a sec
[14:09] <zul> i did say it was temporary :)
[14:09] <Daviey> heh
[14:10] <Daviey> zul: the tests are running now
[14:10] <zul> i removed it in the bzr branch
[14:35] <jamespage> Akendo_, I'm not seeing the same issue you are - glance image-list and nova image-list are correctly returning the information stored in glance/ceph
[14:35] <TJ-> Are there any known internal limits with large numbers of NICs? Not so much kernel, but in admin tools?
[14:37] <TJ-> I'm presuming there may be some throughput issues with gigabit interfaces in some circumstances but that's not an issue (provided they don't become 10BaseT !)
[15:29] <Daviey> zul: what do you make of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16711/ ?
[15:30] <zul> Daviey: im good with it
[15:31] <zul> Daviey: want me to +1 it?
[15:31] <zul> Daviey: wait a minute jenkins failed im just pushing it through jenkins again
[15:32] <Daviey> zul: that is what i was questioning :)
[15:33] <zul> Daviey: ah ok...well i just sent it back
[15:33] <Daviey> vcool
[16:00] <zul> Daviey:  seems temporarmental passed now
[18:14] <v0lksman> hello all!  I've got a really really weird problem I was hoping for some hints on:  http://dpaste.com/834822/
[18:15] <v0lksman> it seems something is different when the installer enables a NIC than when I do it manually.  Does anyone have any insight as to what it might be?
[18:16] <IdleOne> v0lksman: This channel is not as busy as #ubuntu, answers are not always immediate.
[18:16] <IdleOne> just wanted to let you know before you got all nervous and stuff :)
[18:16] <v0lksman> yeah that's fine.  I've been trying in #ubuntu all morning but no one seems to have any information
[18:17] <v0lksman> best advice I've gotten is that it's a driver issue but that isn't 100% true as the OOTB driver works fine as long as the OS installer runs it.
[18:18] <v0lksman> and I've installed 4.0.x of the driver and it makes no difference
[18:18] <v0lksman> I'm sure this is a kernel flag thing of somesort.  or when the hardware gets initialized there is a flag being set, but I have no clue where
[18:28] <TJ-> v0lksman: When you start the installer is that from a cold start of the system? And when (re)starting into the installed system is that only a warm-boot? I've seen problems where the hardware needs a cold boot to initialise correctly (Tulip and sky2 driver being one example)
[18:30] <v0lksman> warm and cold boot.  doesn't seem to make a difference.  thanks for the suggestion though!
[18:32] <v0lksman> also of note, as soon as the OS is out of the way (IE on POST or on shutdown) the port lights up.  It's only when Ubuntu starts up with a driver that it goes dark and won't come alive again (unless it was used during the install, then it works after reboots, power up etc)
[19:03] <hypergrove> noobie q: i am able to browse to index.html. When I browse to a php file, it is supposed to execute it, but it opens the file in an editor. Any qwik advice for me anyone? thanks
[19:04] <hypergrove> how do i cause index.php (or index.php5) to be executed not displayed? thanks much
[19:04] <arpu> apt-get install apache2-mod-php5
[19:05] <arpu> or something like that
[19:05] <hypergrove> earlier i ran sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5 php5-mysql.... that won't do it i guess?
[19:07] <hypergrove> sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 looks like it?
[19:07] <hypergrove> (found at http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/installing-php5-and-apache-on-ubuntu/)
[19:10] <hypergrove> ran that, but it indicated already installed. tried again from browser (http://54.../mediawiki-1.17.3/config) but still only displays index.php...
[19:13] <hypergrove> oh i needed to restart apache
[19:52] <TJ-> v0lksman: I'd suspect firmware issues. Sounds like it'd be worth exhaustively checking the hardware and firmware revisions
[20:12] <TJ-> v0lksman: Having looked further into the igb, I'm wondering if the motherboard is using UEFI and if so, if the UEFI driver settings for the i350 are responsible for this
[21:09]  * lvmer wishes: Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in the USA. :)
[21:13] <lvmer> After getting my feet wet with 2x ubuntu servers, I'm looking to setup a LAN storage for movies / pictures that will be viewable on a living room tv. I also at some point might want to record a few tv shows for personal view (I'm guessing myth tv is best here?). What is the best way to do this? 1) Have a simple win7 computer next to the TV that connects to a LAN Samba storage server in the basement - funnels movie/picture files to 
[22:18] <bananapie> I installed cfengine and nagios. Any other suggestions of epic software packages I need to install ?
[22:18] <bananapie> fail2ban was good, but it wasn't epic.