[00:21] alt+up alt+down swaps lines in emacs, so its actually fewer keystrokes :) [00:23] ddp (3 keys vs 4) :P [00:24] is up/down not the arrow keys? [00:24] otherwise that's just crap [00:24] alt+up swaps current line with the one above [00:24] right, but by 'up' do you mean 'up arrow'? Or some other key that means 'up'? [00:24]

and yea, I did both so you're right I can't count right [00:25] there's probably some other key for it if you didn't like/have arrow keys [00:25] die arrows die. They should be removed from the keyboard :P [00:25] i like them [00:25] on my kinesis [00:27] true, they're better on there I suppose [00:28] so, many keys in emacs are stupid though [00:28] RMS thought that all the keys should stand for something, rather than how they are posisioned [00:28] so i think cursor forward is ctrl+f [00:28] i just use arrow [02:53] yay back [03:00] rick_h_: What's the link to that site for SF books? [12:11] OK, this is fucking weird [12:12] Apparently my machine decided to try shutting down without my knowledge [12:12] and locked up [12:13] Fucking UPS [12:34] happy thanksgiving [12:34] and die cats die [12:51] <_stink_> haha [12:51] <_stink_> what did they do? [12:53] http://bandcamp.com/craigmaloney [12:53] rick_h_: Ahem. ;) [12:53] There will be no dying cats on my watch [12:54] Oh, nice, Bandcamp now has wishlists [12:54] aka: fewer openmetalcast links in bookie [13:14] looks like wife shut one up in the guest room overnight on accident [13:15] the carpet by the door is going to need some love after getting some claw treatment [13:15] Oh noes [13:16] thus my unhappiness with the species this morning [15:26] beat it until it understands