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superfly_Maaz, tell Kilos wakey wakey!05:02
Maazsuperfly_: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode05:02
=== superfly_ is now known as superfly
SquirmMaaz: tell Kilos wakey wakey!05:14
MaazSquirm: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode05:14
Squirm:P05:14
Squirmsuperfly: he's late05:15
superflySquirm: depends on his head and his electricity05:15
Squirmhis head?05:16
superflySquirm: many years ago he had an accident and he was inches away from being totally braindamaged05:17
Squirmoh wow05:17
superflyhe should actually qualify for a government grant, but they managed to get away with refusing it based on some technicality05:19
superfly...?05:20
superflyBetween freenode and 3G...05:20
Squirmsorry. getting ready for work which I am late for05:21
Squirmbut this country is stupid :/05:21
Squirmoh, lol05:21
superflySquirm: no, wasn't directed at you :-)05:21
Squirmyeah I figured after the last comment05:21
* superfly is on the train05:21
superflySquirm: he hasn't been able to work since the accident05:23
Squirmouch05:26
Squirmsuperfly: any idea why he can't work? he seems fine05:27
Squirmbad headaches?05:27
Squirmhaven't seen that quit message in a while05:27
Squirmbbl. late for work05:28
kbmonkeymornin05:30
=== magespawn_ is now known as magespawn
magespawnmorning05:31
Kiloshehe hiya superfly and all others05:34
Kiloshave done a win7 install already and boot-repair here to find what happened to my kde drive05:34
Kilosworking on scrapped drives makes things get lost05:35
Kiloskde doesnt seem very boot-repair friendly05:35
superflyKilos: you should be able to boot into a live cd and reinstall grub?05:36
Kilosaw i didnt even think off that, got so used to using boot-repair05:36
Kilosgot spoilt actually05:36
Kilosand late nights with the aus brat interferes with the thinking process05:37
Kilossorry if she gives you guys a hard time05:37
Kilosits the i know thats the prob methinks05:38
Kilosi know i know --- how do i do this???05:38
magespawnll05:38
magespawnlol05:38
Kilosso ty for the patience05:39
Kiloshi magespawn psydroid 05:39
Kilosand so cheeky05:40
Kilosmom gave too much rope methinks05:40
Kilosinetpro, ^^05:41
nuvolario/ morings kbmonkey, magespawn, superfly, oom Kilos05:41
Kiloslo nuvolari 05:41
Kilosnice to see you 05:41
Kilosstupid win7 wont allow me to install the gigabyte mb cd drivers even 05:43
Kilosgrrr05:43
Kiloswith full admin rights05:43
Kilosor all its security stuff off anyway05:44
Kilosmore grrrr05:44
magespawnhey nuvolari 05:48
Kiloshi jrgns 05:50
Kiloshave you fixed your sick internet yet05:50
Kilosall good magespawn ?05:51
jrgnsi was jumping on and off a vpn05:51
Kilosah05:51
kbmonkeymornin nuvolari o/05:51
kbmonkeyhi Kilos 05:51
Kiloskbmonkey, howdy fella05:51
Kilosgonna rain05:51
kbmonkeybeen raining here all 24 hours05:52
kbmonkeyhmm, have to go to work in a minute :C05:52
Kilosenjoy05:52
magespawnyup here too, eskom on and off like a yoyo05:52
Kiloswell see you later05:52
kbmonkeya pity I can't get to irc from work ;)05:53
Kilosya05:54
kbmonkeyI think the webchat may work, but I don't trust unsecured chat there05:54
Kilosyou really gotta work on that05:54
kbmonkeythe place has 'eyes' XD05:54
Kilosmust be a way around05:54
Kilosai05:54
Kiloshi mazal 05:54
mazalMorning all05:55
Kilospaint them close or tape them kbmonkey 05:55
kbmonkeyya, poke em with a pencil. ha ha ha05:55
Kilosif the eyes are in peeps close them with fist or baseball bat05:55
kbmonkeychecking out ttylinux, the whole thing is only 30MB. sjoe05:57
kbmonkeyits all text05:57
Kiloswow that will make you happy06:00
Kilosyou kb nut you06:00
kbmonkeyhe he06:01
kbmonkeytalk later ladies and germs06:01
Kiloshmm he also getting cheeky06:04
Kilosmust be the brats bad influence06:04
Kilosyo drussell are you using unity?06:04
Kiloshey Squirm you too?06:09
Kiloswhew06:09
Kiloswakey wakey06:10
Kilosmy goodness06:10
Squirmhello06:18
Kilosneed a fast reader understander to check if this is a scam too06:19
Kiloshttp://www.OneMinuteCure.com/06:19
Kilosmight fix some of you up06:19
Kilosonly quick cure i know is a bullet06:20
superflyKilos: any site like that is a scam06:22
Kilosoh my06:22
Kiloswhat tells you its a scam06:23
superflyKilos: let me guess, its a LONG page and they rave on about this magnificent cure that has been banned and that it cures everyone it meets and you can get it too for a limited time offer of only $XXXX ?06:23
Kilosits many pages06:24
Kiloshavent read yet06:24
Kilostakes me long to read06:24
Kilosand its a copyrighted book06:25
Kilosover 100 pages06:27
Kilosi got one eye member thats nearly as blind as the blind one06:29
Kilosso reading is a major effort06:30
superflyKilos: there's a saying: If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.06:37
superflyi.e. if it sounds fantastic, it's probably false06:37
Kilosyeah i know but there is also the known fact that doctor ride porsches and put their kids through varsity on their patients illnesses06:38
Kiloshmm06:41
Kilosthe medical proffesion is as evil as the milk peeps06:47
Kilosdie geld god het oor geneem06:47
Kilosthe hypocratic oath has become the hypocritic oath07:04
Kilosswines07:04
inetprogood mornings07:06
Kiloslo inetpro 07:06
inetprohi Kilos07:06
Kilosdaai krag mense het gister die krag af gesit en net geloaf07:07
Kiloswerk is niks verder as maandag nie se swaar07:07
Kilosgrrr07:07
Kilosim getting brainwashed07:12
Kilosif ubuntu doesnt say a password is good then it isnt07:12
Kiloswbb. go to check if boot-repair from unity fixed kubuntu07:34
Kilosyo Vince-0 09:25
Vince-0Hay Kilos 09:26
Kilosso where are you lug peeps09:26
Kilosgrr09:26
Kilosyou might all use other OS's but ubuntu is the main linux one and #ubuntu-za welcomes all types except winsucks types09:27
Kilosi even got damn small linux last night so i can go into ms pcs and purge them09:29
Kilosyo koiosify Mzolisto 09:30
koiosifyhi Kilos09:30
* Kilos greets amanica bakuman Banlam barns and bmg and confluency too09:31
Vince-0kewl09:31
Vince-0other LUG guys aren't the IRC types09:32
Vince-0only SmilyBorg09:32
Kiloshehe otherwise they all just lurk09:32
Kilosteach them man. IRC is what its all about09:33
Kilosshe popped in and out this morning, must have autostart on but went off quick09:33
Kilosi want over 50 peeps here before i kick the bucket09:34
Vince-0eww09:34
Vince-0where you kicking09:35
Kilosi dunno, peeps leave them lying around so not seeing good i am inclined to kick one every now and again09:36
inetproyikes10:29
Kiloswhat inetpro 10:30
inetprohow do I get the total size of all files in a folder excluding sub-folders10:30
inetpro?10:30
Kilosoh my10:30
inetprodu -hs /folder is nice and easy for a simple total including sub-folders10:31
Kilosright click properties but that dont exclude10:31
Kilosi dunno how you's remember all these commands10:31
Kiloswhy do you wanna exclude sub folders10:33
inetprodu has a -S option which says do not include size of subdirectories10:33
inetprosadly seems like it's not working10:33
Kiloshmm thats clever but what is the point10:33
Kiloswhy exclude them10:33
inetpromaybe I got it wrong10:33
Kilosno man du10:34
Kiloshehe10:34
inetproKilos: heh, I got that from the man page10:34
Kiloshaha10:35
Kilosok10:35
Kiloswas trying to dig at you thats all10:35
inetproahh10:36
Kilosi asked why you wanna exclude them inetpro 10:36
inetproactually it is working10:36
Kilosthey then part of the folder anyway10:37
inetprodu -ksS /folder10:37
Kilossjoe10:37
inetproor du -hsS /folder10:37
Kilosanswer dammit10:37
inetpromy -h option just gave me the same figure10:37
Kilosim getting like the brat10:37
* inetpro assumed it was not working10:38
Kilossigh10:38
inetpromy sub folders happen to use very few bytes10:38
Kilosi asked why you wanna exclude them inetpro 10:38
Kilosno matter10:38
Kilosyou trying to save time or what10:39
inetproI want to copy only files from that folder10:39
inetprojust wanted to make sure about the size before I start10:39
Kilosah10:39
Kilosty10:39
* Kilos wipes sweat off brow10:39
inetpro1.4 GB over a remote connection10:39
Kiloslike getting blood outa a stone10:39
Kilosquite a bit ya10:40
maiatodayHello people, I just made our re-approval wiki page. look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication201211:51
maiatodaywe need to fill in the details11:51
maiatodayalso we are on the agenda for this meeting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda11:53
maiatodayI will work on the page, but anyone is welcome to pitch in11:54
Kiloshi maiatoday ty for the hard work11:55
KilosVince-0, ^^ get your lug to join11:57
superflymaiatoday: I'13:09
superfly*I've diarised the date of the meeting13:09
maiatodaythanks superfly13:09
maiatodayI'll try to get stats for some of the stuff, could you maybe get the website stats? would that be easy for you?13:09
superflymaiatoday: I'll ask tumbleweed13:10
superflynot sure what sort of stats you're looking for13:10
maiatodaywe had stats about the website on the previous approval doc13:10
maiatodayvisitor to ubuntu-za.org13:11
maiatodayI'll go through the monthly reports and list our activities13:11
maiatodayI'll also try to get the pics of the blog reports and put them in the report13:11
maiatodayso with that and the stats for the different areas we should have enough13:12
maiatodayI think drubin did the irc stats last time13:12
maiatodayit would be good if we could get some testimonials from people too13:12
Symmetriawtf13:52
Symmetriavodacom is playing gangnam style as their hold music13:53
* Symmetria shoots them13:53
Kilossjoe inetpro miskien moet jy vinnig tuiswaarts14:41
Kilosof wag tot dit verby is14:42
Kiloskan miskien heal ek dink14:42
Kiloshael14:42
nuvolarimiddag oom kil14:42
nuvolarier14:43
nuvolarioom Kilos 14:43
nuvolari:P14:43
Kiloslo nuvolari 14:43
Kiloshoe gaanit seun14:43
nuvolarigoed dankie en met oom?14:44
Kilosgoed dankie 14:44
Kilosgroot storm wat broei14:44
nuvolarilo apie14:45
kbmonkeylo nuvo!14:45
Kiloshi kbmonkey 14:45
kbmonkeybut its a long wait to get on irc in the day ;)14:45
Kiloslooks like14:45
Kiloseyes gotta go first14:46
nuvolariyeah :-/14:46
Kilosnuvolari, 14:46
Kilosmaiatoday> Hello people, I just made our re-approval wiki page. look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication201214:46
Kilos<maiatoday> we need to fill in the details14:46
Kilos<maiatoday> also we are on the agenda for this meeting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda14:46
Kilos<maiatoday> I will work on the page, but anyone is welcome to pitch in14:46
kbmonkeylo Kilos 14:46
kbmonkeyMaaz, hello14:46
MaazSup kbmonkey14:46
Kiloslol14:47
kbmonkeyMaaz, botsnack14:47
MaazWhat do you want kbmonkey Trying to butter me up or something?14:47
Kilosmaiatoday> it would be good if we could get some testimonials from people too14:47
Kiloslook kbmonkey 14:47
kbmonkeyhey I got a friend on Ubuntu about 3 weeks ago, I will try get testimonial!14:48
Kilosnuvolari, testimonial from you is good as reining chair14:48
kbmonkeyIs it just quiet here or am I lagging?15:04
kbmonkeyMaaz, coffee on15:04
* Maaz flips the salt-timer15:04
inetproKilos: eish!15:05
inetprogeen manier nou nie15:05
Kilosdit val groot druppels maar ver uit mekaar15:05
KilosMaaz, coffee please15:05
MaazKilos: Righto15:05
Kilosnee wag tot dit verby is15:06
inetprohoop maar dit hou gou weer op, soos gister15:06
Kiloslol ons het gister 1.5mm gekry15:06
inetproons het 6mm gehad15:06
Kilosdit moet goed val vir 30 minute ten minste15:06
Kiloskbmonkey, you better make plans that you dont miss our 15:07
Kilosum15:07
Kilosreapproval meet hey15:07
kbmonkeyah see there is an email15:08
kbmonkeyso it is a irc meet?15:08
MaazCoffee's ready for kbmonkey and Kilos!15:08
inetproKilos: when is the meeting?15:09
Kilosyou can tell them even from dropbox #ubuntu-za is awesome15:09
Kilosnext month inetpro 15:09
Kilos18th15:09
inetproahh15:09
Kilosday after monthly meet15:09
KilosMaaz, ty15:09
inetprosjoe15:09
MaazYou are welcome Kilos15:09
inetproKilos: you better behave until then15:09
Kilosme?15:10
* inetpro loves the smell of rain15:10
Kilosyeah15:10
inetproKilos: ja jy :-)15:10
kbmonkeyhmmmm, petrichor15:11
* Kilos wonders what i did now15:21
Kilosinetpro, its past15:28
inetpromooi15:29
* inetpro let's it dry up a bit15:29
Kiloslol15:30
Kilos1.5mm15:30
Kilosbossies gaan nie eers opstaan nie15:31
kbmonkeymaar murphey sal se die onkruid sal! he he15:32
Kiloshehe15:34
Kiloshows things kbmonkey 15:34
Kilosyou happy there15:35
Kilosbossies is ontkruid man15:35
Kiloswil jy my epos adres hĂȘ15:36
Kilosmaybe i must put up msdomdonner as the mail addy for dodo of the month15:39
Kilosive had it long enough15:41
Kilosdodo of the new millenium15:43
Kiloshey tumbleweed you maintaining15:43
Kilos??15:43
Kilosnaand tannie magtie 15:43
magtieHi Kilos15:43
kbmonkeylekker Kilos. having a koffie15:44
kbmonkeyno way, you don't go "halp!!! I borked it!!"15:44
Kiloslol what you talking about15:45
Kiloshehe15:45
Kilosoh no i just clean install15:47
kbmonkeyis that a bad thing?15:48
Kilosgets rid of all probs and pc always faster again15:48
Kilosunity booting very slow here15:48
Kilosmight be the sick kde on second drive methinks15:49
kbmonkeylol15:50
Kilosboot-repair and kde dont like each other15:50
Kiloswe get to sleep early tonight i think. the brat in bed with bad flu15:54
Kiloswb kbmonkey 15:57
kbmonkeymy 8ta has run out of time. on voda now, as you see its not very stable15:57
KilosMaaz, where the fly15:57
MaazKilos: Huh?15:57
Kilosnope you were off15:58
Kilosyou had the 8ta 2 + 1?15:58
kbmonkeyyes the 2 + 116:00
tumbleweedKilos: hi16:01
Kiloshi tumbleweed all good sir?16:01
tumbleweedyaeh, think so :)16:02
tumbleweedpub quiz tonight16:02
Kilosmake a note. reapproval meeting 18 dec16:02
tumbleweedrighto16:02
Kilosif you got some input maia gave links inna mail16:03
Kiloswb kbmonkey 16:07
kbmonkeythx Kilos 16:07
Kiloswb mrs_fly 17:15
zerefzomg, internetz are fast here at res..... since students started leaving17:41
Kiloslol17:41
Kiloswow they selling notebooks with win8 already17:50
KilosR3999 at game17:50
Kiloshi superfly you made it home17:51
superflyKilos: yup, no problems today17:52
superflytumbleweed: when you get back, I have some questions for you :-)17:53
tumbleweedsuperfly: sure17:54
inetprogood evening17:54
Kiloslo inetpro 17:54
superflytumbleweed: or do you have about 10 minutes now? (I don't think it'll take that long, but I'd rather buffer)17:54
inetproKilos: so bietjie nat geword in die noorde maar nog nie gesmelt nie17:54
Kilosmooi17:54
inetprotumbleweed: wb17:55
inetproKilos: are those good devices?17:56
Kilosinetpro, what?17:56
* Kilos lost17:56
inetproKilos: win8 notebooks17:56
Kilosmust be to run win817:56
inetproif they are good devices it sounds like a good idea to get some to put ubuntu on them17:57
Kilosprice is good17:57
Kiloswould fly with ubuntu17:57
Kilosreally zoom with maverick17:57
inetproKilos: maybe a good idea to zoom one down to the brat17:58
Kilosi just caught the add half way through17:58
Kiloslol17:58
Kilosthats 1/3 of the plane fare17:59
inetproeish17:59
Kilosya eish17:59
inetproja jy moet spaar17:59
Kiloslol17:59
inetproklomp geld17:59
Kilosi could never buy a notebook 17:59
inetproKilos: never is a very long time18:00
Kilosya but we getting older and debs is inna bad way18:00
Kilostill she goes on new meds18:00
inetproai18:01
Kilosthe new meds kill the immune system so they have told her all teeth outso there no chance of abscesses etc18:01
inetprosjoe18:02
Kilosya bad news18:02
Kiloshasnt worked for 2 months now18:02
Kilostara helps her to get up and get around18:03
Kilosnow she got bad flu so i think they struggling some18:04
Kiloswhen on new meds you cant be near peeps with flu or other bugs18:04
Kilosoh i found the specs of her moms pc18:05
Kiloson maverick18:05
inetproai, ai, ai18:06
inetproKilos: and the cpu? I bet it's not the same as tara's18:07
Kilosbut i dont see what cpu socket they use18:07
Kiloshttp://slexy.org/view/s20z1FzqvU18:07
Kilosthats supposed to be my pc when/if i get there18:08
Kilosbut needs lotsa ram methinks18:09
inetproKilos: the following is what she got from cpuinfo inside windows last night18:10
inetprohttp://slexy.org/view/s29pSPLGRD18:10
Kilosits only got 512mB ram tara says18:10
Kilosok i go see18:11
inetproI'm not sure whether that is correct or whether that is just reported by the VM18:11
Kilosmodel name      : Pentium II (Klamath)18:12
Kilosthats weird you dont get a 2.8 g pentium 218:12
* inetpro should find some time to play with vm, just not tonight18:12
Kiloshi magedroid 18:12
magedroidEvening all18:12
* inetpro tired18:12
inetprowb magedroid18:12
magedroidSomething for your amusment http://www.innergeek.us/geek-test.html18:13
magedroidStill cannot get through to my quassel18:13
Kiloseish18:13
Kilosdidnt you have time to sort it today18:14
Kilosi mailed you a price list18:14
Kilosdunno if you will be able to read it though18:14
magedroidNo but it seems to work fine when i am in the shop so probable the dynamic dns18:15
Kilosah18:15
magedroidPrice list, Kilos?18:15
Kilospc spares from a shop in pta18:15
Kilosthink they cheaper than where you get stuff18:15
Kilosif you can read it give it to goosie18:16
magedroidOkay will check it thanks18:16
magedroidGoosie?18:16
Kilosthe pro18:16
magedroidokay18:17
Kilosgustav18:17
Kiloshi mazal 18:17
mazalNaand oom18:17
Kilosi woulda mailed it to him but he doesnt read mails18:17
mazalI saw maia's mail , is there anything I can do to help get stats higher ?18:18
magedroidWhats stats are those mazal?18:19
inetproKilos: eh18:19
Kiloshmm ask her tomorrow or ask by mail mazal 18:19
mazalOn that application page18:19
inetprono money here to buy any new pc this year18:19
mazalI see they gonna have to provide stats for irc , web etc.18:19
Kilosstats for the reaproval inetpro 18:19
inetprohmm....18:19
Kilosdidnt you see maia's post here18:20
inetproI don't think we've had to provide them before18:20
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication201218:20
mazalI also was thinking of adding my testimonial to help out , but I dunno how to edit there18:20
* inetpro wonders what they look at, what do they need?18:20
Kilosshe says drubin did18:20
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda18:21
Kilosi dunno18:21
Kilosthose are the 2 links she gave18:21
mazalJa she also aksed for people to join her in the council meeting18:22
Kilosya we all go sit there on the night18:22
inetproahh, just amount of active users?18:22
inetproKilos: you will know best18:23
mazalAnd stats as wll inetpro 18:23
Kilosbest been 4518:23
Kilosnormally 35  up and down18:23
inetprohmm...18:23
Kilosvery seldom under 3018:24
inetproI see drubin's stats from last time at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication?action=show&redirect=ZATeam%2FApprovalApplication18:24
* inetpro wanders how he got those18:24
Kilosyeah18:24
Kilosask him18:24
mazalDo you know how to add testimonials ? She also asked for that18:25
inetproKilos: he'll probably answer in due time18:25
inetprowe still have time to get them18:26
inetpropsydroid: wb18:26
Kiloslike where would one see registered mamber18:26
Kilosregistered where18:26
psydroidty inetpro18:26
psydroidhi Kilos18:26
Kiloshi psydroid 18:27
mazallo psydroid 18:27
inetproKilos: on launchpad18:27
psydroidhi mazal18:27
inetproI guess18:27
Kilosoh18:27
mazalhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+members#active18:27
Kilossurely must have changed some by now18:27
mazalIs that what you looking for Kilos ?18:27
Kilosthats 2 years ago18:27
Kilosi go see18:27
Kilosty18:27
inetprothey also need number of subscribers on the mailing lists18:28
inetproI assume drubin will have those also18:29
Kilosthere been a few new ones in the last year18:29
magedroidI see from that list morgs is the oldesr, unless i missed something18:30
magedroidOldest18:30
inetpromagedroid: possibly some have not renewed18:32
inetprobut morgs is real old :-)18:33
magedroidMaybe we can get some of the new peeps on there18:33
inetproreally*18:33
magedroidNot really what i meant,l lol18:33
inetprolol18:33
Kilosya but up to date inetpro ?18:34
inetpromagedroid: I'm just joking, he's not really old18:34
inetprolongest standing member I would say :-)18:34
KilosMaaz, seen morgs18:34
MaazKilos: morgs was last seen 28 days, 9 hours, 33 minutes and 4 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-10-25 02:01:52 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-10-25 04:12:21 PDT18:34
Kilosinetpro, im gonna be like highvoltage18:36
Kilosremember he didnt wanna upgrade pc because he had personally soldered stuff in it18:36
inetprosjoe18:37
Kilosim gonna try on a sata drive with the plastid bracket broken that holds the plug in place18:37
* mazal gaan lĂȘ18:37
mazalSleep well everyone18:37
Kilosi got one sata cable thats loose at one end18:37
mazalGod bless18:38
magedroidNight mazal18:38
Kilosfalls off all the time so gonna solder it to drive18:38
Kilossjoe dit was vinnig18:38
Kilosklein strond18:38
magedroidGet the pin out  for tha sata Kilos18:38
Kilosworth a try on a 500 GB drive methinks18:39
Kilosits the plastic thats gone18:39
magedroidShows you what each cable does18:39
Kilosthat black l shaped goody18:39
magedroidL18:39
Kilosill strip and solder one by one18:40
Kilosya L18:40
Kilosthe cable is throw away anyway so its worth a try18:40
magedroidYou have more skill than me at  soldering then18:41
Kilosother side of cable stills fits firmly18:41
magedroidDefinately  worth a try18:41
Kilosim good at soldering18:41
Kiloshi glitterboy_ 18:41
glitterboy_hi there18:41
magedroidBbl fish one bedtime18:41
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za18:41
Kilosk magedroid 18:42
glitterboy_thank you18:42
Kilosyou come to join us or need ubuntu help glitterboy_ ?18:42
glitterboy_I need some help with ubuntu18:42
Kiloslinux help too18:42
Kilosgood state your prob18:43
Kilosbut once fixed dont stay away hey18:43
Kiloswe trying to grow users here18:43
inetprolol18:44
Kilosare you on 12.04 or 12.10?18:44
inetprohi glitterboy_18:44
Kiloshehe18:44
Kilos10 points for trying inetpro 18:44
glitterboy_I'll be back.. I want to extend the battery life of a Ubuntu 11.10 installed laptop.18:44
Kilosunity or kde18:44
glitterboy_unity18:45
inetprowhy did maia not use the loco.ubuntu site?18:45
inetprohttp://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za18:45
inetproI guess we'll have to set up the event on there18:45
Kilosglitterboy_, is your battery old?18:46
Kilosif im not mistaken it helps to plugin charger when you gonna be busy a long while18:46
Kilosi dont have a lappy18:47
glitterboy_lol18:47
Kiloshorrible things18:47
Kilosthe mouse goody sucks18:47
glitterboy_No not really,  in windows 7 I get less than 2 hours, in ubuntu I get a bit more (after installing powertop, and laptop-mode etc)18:47
Kilosbut lots of guys here use them so if there is a way someone will tell you18:48
glitterboy_get a usb mouse18:48
Kilosim happy with desktop18:48
Kilosbigger for old eyes18:48
glitterboy_one thing I've changed is in the /etc/defualt/grub file.  I've changed the line to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pcie_aspm=force i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 i915.i915_enable_fbc=1 i915.lvds_downclock=1"18:49
Kilosinetpro, you a lappy user18:49
Kilosideas?18:49
inetprowhat's teh question?18:49
glitterboy_BUT, later on I've seen that this is actually for Sandy Bridge, and my laptop uses the GM965 chipset18:49
Kiloshow to extend lappy battery life18:50
inetprojust use it less18:50
Kiloswhat does help to make battery last long is keep the lid closed18:51
Kilossorry18:51
inetprolol18:51
inetprothe less you use the battery the longer it lasts18:51
inetproless is more18:51
glitterboy_and I guess to remove the battery all together18:51
Kilosglitterboy_, cant you plugin the charger or you use when away from power18:51
Kilosmy son plugs in charger when he boots18:52
Kilosthen battery stays constand18:52
* inetpro has never tweaked the grub bootup options to save power18:52
glitterboy_I could, but I want to go running with it18:52
Kiloswhat?18:52
glitterboy_joking18:52
Kilosrunning as in jogging?18:53
Kiloslol18:53
Kilosthats a lappy weakness as far as im concerned18:53
Kilosthe battery18:53
glitterboy_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks18:53
Kilosyeah but you might at 20 mins or so18:54
Kilosif lucky18:54
Kilosplugin the charger18:54
Kilosglitterboy_, where are you18:55
Kilosand why on 11.1018:55
Kilos3g?18:56
glitterboy_where? such as where in the world or did you think I went into sleep mode?18:56
Kilosya where in the world18:56
Kiloslol18:56
Kilosza?18:57
glitterboy_no 3g, 11.10 because when I tried to update to 12.10 it gave "compression error" on boot18:57
Kiloseish18:57
glitterboy_at the moment I'm in Botswana, but will be back in ZA in desember18:57
Kilos11.10 you gotta first upgrade to 12.04 then 12.1018:57
Kilosif no data prob download 12.1018:58
Kilosthen install alongside to check it out first18:58
glitterboy_okay..i'll try that.. did you see the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks site? 18:58
Kilos12.04 is quite stable now18:59
Kilosnope thats for lappy guys18:59
glitterboy_it is for Sandy bridge,  isn't there such tweaks for Core 2 Duo?18:59
Kilosonly eskom messes with my power18:59
glitterboy_haha18:59
glitterboy_is there a channel called #lappy_guys19:00
glitterboy_?'19:00
Kiloswhat does google say about the tweaks for core219:00
Kilosrofl19:00
glitterboy_don't get any...19:00
Kilosweall mixed here19:00
Kilosaw19:00
Kilosthen plug in the charger19:00
Kilosin the ear when running19:01
glitterboy_at least in the ear and not somewhere else19:01
Kiloslol19:01
Kiloswe clean here on ubuntu-za19:01
Kilosno dirty talk19:02
Kiloshow come you never been here before?19:02
Kiloswe got guys from all over the world19:02
Kilosinetpro, you looking at the tweaks19:03
inetprohmm... nee19:03
inetprosorry19:03
glitterboy_I think i've been here before, I've been playing with Ubuntu since 6.0419:03
* inetpro got a bit distracted19:03
Kilosmaybe it can help you then your ear will last longer too19:03
Kilosand hear better19:04
Kiloswow thats great glitterboy_ 19:04
Kilosi started with 8.04 but only got going some with 8.1019:04
glitterboy_can you direct me to any good ubuntu/debain reading material.. hopefully free ;)19:06
Kiloswb kbmonkey 19:06
kbmonkeyhello!19:06
kbmonkeyhi smile4ever 19:06
kbmonkeyand Kilos 19:06
Kiloswhat you wanna read19:06
Kilosthere is a LPI book19:06
smile4everhi! :)19:07
glitterboy_i wanna know more and more!! 19:07
KilosMaaz, LPI manual19:07
Maazhttp://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual19:07
glitterboy_awesome!!19:07
Kiloswe  actually started classes but our teachers got sick19:07
glitterboy_sick of?19:08
Kilosor life overtook them19:08
glitterboy_thanks Maaz19:08
Kilosno they got too busy working and moving around19:08
Kiloskbmonkey, voda sucks there19:08
glitterboy_brb19:09
Kilosyou already been of and on19:09
kbmonkeyon 8ta now. got a few megs :]19:09
kbmonkeycouldnt take it anymore. lol19:09
Kilosyay19:09
kbmonkeyhey nuvolari. do you still use mutt?19:09
Kilosi stretch the 2+1 over 2 months19:09
kbmonkeyI ate the +1 to update two machines19:10
kbmonkeydownload a new release + updates19:10
Kilosdont you rsync archives19:10
kbmonkeycouldn't. 19:11
Kilosi can do a clean install and use 30m to update upgrade19:11
Kiloseish19:11
kbmonkeywas for a sid distro. different repos.19:11
Kilosoi19:11
kbmonkeyoi!19:11
kbmonkeyhow come I am here twice19:11
magedroidBack19:11
Kilosmusta been a quick disconnect19:12
magedroidVodacom is doing  there 20 gigs for 499 again19:12
kbmonkeywb magedroid 19:12
Kilosbefore freenode saw you were gone you were back19:12
Kilosone can get an ecs mb for R500 from that shop magedroid 19:13
Kilosone that takes ddr3 ram19:14
smile4everLol, zooming takes 3 seconds in Firefox now :p too many addons :p19:15
Kiloslol19:15
magedroidKilos do they courier?19:15
Kilosi got firefox again but its not gonna use any more data on updates19:15
Kilosmagedroid, theres a fax number and all19:16
kbmonkeyturning off smooth scrolling might help smile4ever 19:16
Kilosif you cant read ask me and ill give the info19:16
magedroidJust about to run out of airtime19:16
Kilosoi19:16
kbmonkeyeveryone is having airtime bad-luck :c19:17
smile4everkbmonkey: it does! :) now it's only one second :p19:17
Kilosyip19:17
smile4everthanks :)19:17
kbmonkeynp smile4ever :]19:17
smile4ever:319:17
kbmonkeyi like chrome browser19:18
Kilosya its not bad19:18
Kilosi use opera19:18
kbmonkeyand Kilos just wgets his internet ;)19:18
Kilosquiker19:18
Kiloslol19:19
Kilosquicker19:19
magedroidI use more than one according to what i want to do19:19
kbmonkeyi'm keen to try the suckless browser19:19
inetpro22/11 21:12:12 <magedroid> Vodacom is doing  there 20 gigs for 499 again19:19
magedroidTried lynx for the first time19:19
inetpromagedroid: where did you see that?19:20
magedroidSorry their19:20
Kilosi tried ff chromium and opera for a time but whew19:20
magedroidMybb19:20
Kiloswhere did the data bundle go19:20
inetpromooi!19:20
* inetpro shall have to check that out19:20
magedroidSupposed to start sometime nowish19:20
kbmonkeyi used lynx a lot while travelling. great for looking up stuff, not so good for media rich sites :p19:22
kbmonkeyamazing low bandwidth sufring!19:23
magedroidWas trying it through an ssh coonection to my shop server19:23
magedroidConnection even19:23
kbmonkeyerr, surfing. sufring is what you feel when bandwidth runs out ;)19:23
Kilosyeah19:24
Kilosand links methinks19:24
kbmonkeymagedroid, you might be interested in 'mosh'. it's ssh but for bad connections.19:24
Kiloswas 2 of them19:24
kbmonkeyanyone here has some offlineimap experience?19:26
magedroidkbmonkey will check it out19:27
magedroidOffline as in?19:28
glitterboy_see you all later.. got to go19:28
Kilosok cheers glitterboy_ pop back soon19:29
* magedroid is skip watching the matrix reloaded19:29
kbmonkeyofflineimap is a tool that syncs your mail (say gmail) to a local imap directory19:30
kbmonkeyso you can connect your mail client to a local copy of your imap19:30
kbmonkeyuseful for slow/bad connections. it syncs back in the background19:30
Kiloskbmonkey, why not use pop19:30
Kilosthen it only fetches new mail19:31
kbmonkeybecause pop does not sync mail flags across clients19:31
Kilosand leaves the rest at gail etc19:31
Kiloswhew19:31
Kilosyou always get so invloved19:31
smile4everbyee :p19:31
kbmonkeylol19:31
kbmonkeybyee19:32
Kilosinvolved as well19:32
Kilostoods kbmonkey  be good19:32
Kilosoh toods smile19:32
magedroidUse thunderbird but do an offline sync before i go home19:32
Kilosi dont read fast enough19:32
kbmonkeyplug your brain into the pc, Kilos 19:33
Kilosoh my it will forget how to boot19:33
kbmonkeyharhar19:34
Kilosmagedroid, for soldering thin copper wires and all pc stuff get resin core sloder not acid core19:37
Kilosand the thin one works better19:37
Kilossolder19:37
Kilosheat what you wanna solder with the iron then apply solder and it should rund to the two connections and not leave a point behind when removing iron19:38
magedroidI have some, wiil try it on a external crad reade4r that has diconnected wires19:39
Kilosfirst clean the irons tip onna piece of cloth when hot then tin the tip19:41
magedroidWill do19:43
Kilosmaybe ill try make a movie of it sometime19:44
magedroidCool idea19:45
Kiloswhen all good the solders runs19:45
Kilos3 of us soldered all the fone lines in the pta exchange many years ago19:45
Kiloswhew19:46
Kilos40 years ago19:46
Kilosmaybe there was only 1000 peeps in pta back then19:46
magedroidI think a few more than tha Kilos, 1002 maybe19:49
inetproKilos: sounds like you really need to make a movie from that19:49
Kilosrofl19:49
Kilosits so easy19:49
magedroidDid you hluhluwe was on manual exchange only 15 years ago19:50
magedroidKilos only if you know how19:50
Kilosfirst the wires must be clean'19:50
Kilosas in just striiped19:50
Kilosstripped19:50
Kilosthat is plastic coating off19:51
Kilosif you can  tin each one19:51
Kiloshold it on the freshly tinned iron and touch solder on the wire19:51
Kiloswhen temp right solder will flow onto wire19:52
Kilosthen you put some fresh solder on the iron and put both wires on together same time and solder will join them19:53
Kiloslift off iron and blow cool19:53
Kilos1 or 2 secs19:53
Kiloswell done19:53
kbmonkeycold wires repel hot solder.19:53
magedroidWill give it a go19:53
Kilosif it leaves points you were too slow to put them on the iron aftyer tinning it19:54
Kilosyip as wires warm to right temp the solder flows onto them19:54
Kilosvery easy19:54
Kilosyou can practise on thicker wires so you can watch as the temp is right how it flows19:55
Kilospractise on scrap wires first19:55
Kilosoh19:56
kbmonkeya wet sponge to wipe the iron point clean helps too19:56
Kilosthere are some wires without plastic coating in modern things19:56
kbmonkeyget the resin buildup on the tip off19:56
Kilosyip19:56
Kilosi use finger to wipe off19:56
kbmonkeyKilos, do you have an assorted collection of wires at home?19:56
kbmonkeyfinger? eish, hard man.19:56
Kilosbits for speakers and cellphone chargers19:57
Kilosand power cords19:57
Kilosno man19:57
kbmonkey;D19:57
Kilosyou can dip your finger into molten solder quickly19:57
Kilosonly once though19:57
Kilossecond time all oil gone and you burn19:58
magedroidOkay then19:58
Kilosoil/fat whatever19:58
magedroidOn that note iam off to bed night all19:58
Kiloshehe19:58
Kilosnight magedroid sleep tight19:59
Kiloswhew me too19:59
Kilossleep tight kbmonkey and inetpro  and all others19:59
inetprogoeie nag oom19:59
Kilossee you tomorrow19:59
* inetpro gaan ook slaap19:59
Kiloslekker slaap19:59
kbmonkeyah, 20:00
inetprokbmonkey?20:01
kbmonkeyyes inetpro 20:01
inetprokbmonkey: why you say ah?20:02
kbmonkeycos I missed kilos leaving20:02
kbmonkeyjust too slow20:02
inetprolol20:03
inetprook, good night20:03
kbmonkeyI found the option, maxage, for ignoring old imap emails :)20:03
kbmonkeyah, good night!20:03
tumbleweedsuperfly: 'sup20:33
superflytumbleweed: was just wondering about building packages for PPAs on Launchpad, but then I remembered that you can do that via Recipes, and I've been reading up on that. Looks simple enough.20:34
tumbleweedit is fairly straightforward, yes20:34
superflyHowever, I am beyond tired at the moment, so I'm heading to bed.20:34
tumbleweed:)20:34
TaraLSHey hey hey21:12
TaraLSThe CPU on my mom's computer is LGA 775.21:12
TaraLSconfluency, superfly magespawn  *wave*21:13
TaraLSinetpro, Heeeey.21:27
TaraLSinetpro, Hey hey hey. My mom's cpu socket is LGA 775. That's the same as mine, isn't iT?21:32
TaraLS:(21:54

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