[05:02] <superfly_> Maaz, tell Kilos wakey wakey!
[05:02] <Maaz> superfly_: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:14] <Squirm> Maaz: tell Kilos wakey wakey!
[05:14] <Maaz> Squirm: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:14] <Squirm> :P
[05:15] <Squirm> superfly: he's late
[05:15] <superfly> Squirm: depends on his head and his electricity
[05:16] <Squirm> his head?
[05:17] <superfly> Squirm: many years ago he had an accident and he was inches away from being totally braindamaged
[05:17] <Squirm> oh wow
[05:19] <superfly> he should actually qualify for a government grant, but they managed to get away with refusing it based on some technicality
[05:20] <superfly> ...?
[05:20] <superfly> Between freenode and 3G...
[05:21] <Squirm> sorry. getting ready for work which I am late for
[05:21] <Squirm> but this country is stupid :/
[05:21] <Squirm> oh, lol
[05:21] <superfly> Squirm: no, wasn't directed at you :-)
[05:21] <Squirm> yeah I figured after the last comment
[05:21]  * superfly is on the train
[05:23] <superfly> Squirm: he hasn't been able to work since the accident
[05:26] <Squirm> ouch
[05:27] <Squirm> superfly: any idea why he can't work? he seems fine
[05:27] <Squirm> bad headaches?
[05:27] <Squirm> haven't seen that quit message in a while
[05:28] <Squirm> bbl. late for work
[05:30] <kbmonkey> mornin
[05:31] <magespawn> morning
[05:34] <Kilos> hehe hiya superfly and all others
[05:34] <Kilos> have done a win7 install already and boot-repair here to find what happened to my kde drive
[05:35] <Kilos> working on scrapped drives makes things get lost
[05:35] <Kilos> kde doesnt seem very boot-repair friendly
[05:36] <superfly> Kilos: you should be able to boot into a live cd and reinstall grub?
[05:36] <Kilos> aw i didnt even think off that, got so used to using boot-repair
[05:36] <Kilos> got spoilt actually
[05:37] <Kilos> and late nights with the aus brat interferes with the thinking process
[05:37] <Kilos> sorry if she gives you guys a hard time
[05:38] <Kilos> its the i know thats the prob methinks
[05:38] <Kilos> i know i know --- how do i do this???
[05:38] <magespawn> ll
[05:38] <magespawn> lol
[05:39] <Kilos> so ty for the patience
[05:39] <Kilos> hi magespawn psydroid 
[05:40] <Kilos> and so cheeky
[05:40] <Kilos> mom gave too much rope methinks
[05:41] <Kilos> inetpro, ^^
[05:41] <nuvolari> o/ morings kbmonkey, magespawn, superfly, oom Kilos
[05:41] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[05:41] <Kilos> nice to see you 
[05:43] <Kilos> stupid win7 wont allow me to install the gigabyte mb cd drivers even 
[05:43] <Kilos> grrr
[05:43] <Kilos> with full admin rights
[05:44] <Kilos> or all its security stuff off anyway
[05:44] <Kilos> more grrrr
[05:48] <magespawn> hey nuvolari 
[05:50] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[05:50] <Kilos> have you fixed your sick internet yet
[05:51] <Kilos> all good magespawn ?
[05:51] <jrgns> i was jumping on and off a vpn
[05:51] <Kilos> ah
[05:51] <kbmonkey> mornin nuvolari o/
[05:51] <kbmonkey> hi Kilos 
[05:51] <Kilos> kbmonkey, howdy fella
[05:51] <Kilos> gonna rain
[05:52] <kbmonkey> been raining here all 24 hours
[05:52] <kbmonkey> hmm, have to go to work in a minute :C
[05:52] <Kilos> enjoy
[05:52] <magespawn> yup here too, eskom on and off like a yoyo
[05:52] <Kilos> well see you later
[05:53] <kbmonkey> a pity I can't get to irc from work ;)
[05:54] <Kilos> ya
[05:54] <kbmonkey> I think the webchat may work, but I don't trust unsecured chat there
[05:54] <Kilos> you really gotta work on that
[05:54] <kbmonkey> the place has 'eyes' XD
[05:54] <Kilos> must be a way around
[05:54] <Kilos> ai
[05:54] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[05:55] <mazal> Morning all
[05:55] <Kilos> paint them close or tape them kbmonkey 
[05:55] <kbmonkey> ya, poke em with a pencil. ha ha ha
[05:55] <Kilos> if the eyes are in peeps close them with fist or baseball bat
[05:57] <kbmonkey> checking out ttylinux, the whole thing is only 30MB. sjoe
[05:57] <kbmonkey> its all text
[06:00] <Kilos> wow that will make you happy
[06:00] <Kilos> you kb nut you
[06:01] <kbmonkey> he he
[06:01] <kbmonkey> talk later ladies and germs
[06:04] <Kilos> hmm he also getting cheeky
[06:04] <Kilos> must be the brats bad influence
[06:04] <Kilos> yo drussell are you using unity?
[06:09] <Kilos> hey Squirm you too?
[06:09] <Kilos> whew
[06:10] <Kilos> wakey wakey
[06:10] <Kilos> my goodness
[06:18] <Squirm> hello
[06:19] <Kilos> need a fast reader understander to check if this is a scam too
[06:19] <Kilos> http://www.OneMinuteCure.com/
[06:19] <Kilos> might fix some of you up
[06:20] <Kilos> only quick cure i know is a bullet
[06:22] <superfly> Kilos: any site like that is a scam
[06:22] <Kilos> oh my
[06:23] <Kilos> what tells you its a scam
[06:23] <superfly> Kilos: let me guess, its a LONG page and they rave on about this magnificent cure that has been banned and that it cures everyone it meets and you can get it too for a limited time offer of only $XXXX ?
[06:24] <Kilos> its many pages
[06:24] <Kilos> havent read yet
[06:24] <Kilos> takes me long to read
[06:25] <Kilos> and its a copyrighted book
[06:27] <Kilos> over 100 pages
[06:29] <Kilos> i got one eye member thats nearly as blind as the blind one
[06:30] <Kilos> so reading is a major effort
[06:37] <superfly> Kilos: there's a saying: If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
[06:37] <superfly> i.e. if it sounds fantastic, it's probably false
[06:38] <Kilos> yeah i know but there is also the known fact that doctor ride porsches and put their kids through varsity on their patients illnesses
[06:41] <Kilos> hmm
[06:47] <Kilos> the medical proffesion is as evil as the milk peeps
[06:47] <Kilos> die geld god het oor geneem
[07:04] <Kilos> the hypocratic oath has become the hypocritic oath
[07:04] <Kilos> swines
[07:06] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:06] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[07:06] <inetpro> hi Kilos
[07:07] <Kilos> daai krag mense het gister die krag af gesit en net geloaf
[07:07] <Kilos> werk is niks verder as maandag nie se swaar
[07:07] <Kilos> grrr
[07:12] <Kilos> im getting brainwashed
[07:12] <Kilos> if ubuntu doesnt say a password is good then it isnt
[07:34] <Kilos> wbb. go to check if boot-repair from unity fixed kubuntu
[09:25] <Kilos> yo Vince-0 
[09:26] <Vince-0> Hay Kilos 
[09:26] <Kilos> so where are you lug peeps
[09:26] <Kilos> grr
[09:27] <Kilos> you might all use other OS's but ubuntu is the main linux one and #ubuntu-za welcomes all types except winsucks types
[09:29] <Kilos> i even got damn small linux last night so i can go into ms pcs and purge them
[09:30] <Kilos> yo koiosify Mzolisto 
[09:30] <koiosify> hi Kilos
[09:31]  * Kilos greets amanica bakuman Banlam barns and bmg and confluency too
[09:31] <Vince-0> kewl
[09:32] <Vince-0> other LUG guys aren't the IRC types
[09:32] <Vince-0> only SmilyBorg
[09:32] <Kilos> hehe otherwise they all just lurk
[09:33] <Kilos> teach them man. IRC is what its all about
[09:33] <Kilos> she popped in and out this morning, must have autostart on but went off quick
[09:34] <Kilos> i want over 50 peeps here before i kick the bucket
[09:34] <Vince-0> eww
[09:35] <Vince-0> where you kicking
[09:36] <Kilos> i dunno, peeps leave them lying around so not seeing good i am inclined to kick one every now and again
[10:29] <inetpro> yikes
[10:30] <Kilos> what inetpro 
[10:30] <inetpro> how do I get the total size of all files in a folder excluding sub-folders
[10:30] <inetpro> ?
[10:30] <Kilos> oh my
[10:31] <inetpro> du -hs /folder is nice and easy for a simple total including sub-folders
[10:31] <Kilos> right click properties but that dont exclude
[10:31] <Kilos> i dunno how you's remember all these commands
[10:33] <Kilos> why do you wanna exclude sub folders
[10:33] <inetpro> du has a -S option which says do not include size of subdirectories
[10:33] <inetpro> sadly seems like it's not working
[10:33] <Kilos> hmm thats clever but what is the point
[10:33] <Kilos> why exclude them
[10:33] <inetpro> maybe I got it wrong
[10:34] <Kilos> no man du
[10:34] <Kilos> hehe
[10:34] <inetpro> Kilos: heh, I got that from the man page
[10:35] <Kilos> haha
[10:35] <Kilos> ok
[10:35] <Kilos> was trying to dig at you thats all
[10:36] <inetpro> ahh
[10:36] <Kilos> i asked why you wanna exclude them inetpro 
[10:36] <inetpro> actually it is working
[10:37] <Kilos> they then part of the folder anyway
[10:37] <inetpro> du -ksS /folder
[10:37] <Kilos> sjoe
[10:37] <inetpro> or du -hsS /folder
[10:37] <Kilos> answer dammit
[10:37] <inetpro> my -h option just gave me the same figure
[10:37] <Kilos> im getting like the brat
[10:38]  * inetpro assumed it was not working
[10:38] <Kilos> sigh
[10:38] <inetpro> my sub folders happen to use very few bytes
[10:38] <Kilos> i asked why you wanna exclude them inetpro 
[10:38] <Kilos> no matter
[10:39] <Kilos> you trying to save time or what
[10:39] <inetpro> I want to copy only files from that folder
[10:39] <inetpro> just wanted to make sure about the size before I start
[10:39] <Kilos> ah
[10:39] <Kilos> ty
[10:39]  * Kilos wipes sweat off brow
[10:39] <inetpro> 1.4 GB over a remote connection
[10:39] <Kilos> like getting blood outa a stone
[10:40] <Kilos> quite a bit ya
[11:51] <maiatoday> Hello people, I just made our re-approval wiki page. look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[11:51] <maiatoday> we need to fill in the details
[11:53] <maiatoday> also we are on the agenda for this meeting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda
[11:54] <maiatoday> I will work on the page, but anyone is welcome to pitch in
[11:55] <Kilos> hi maiatoday ty for the hard work
[11:57] <Kilos> Vince-0, ^^ get your lug to join
[13:09] <superfly> maiatoday: I'
[13:09] <superfly> *I've diarised the date of the meeting
[13:09] <maiatoday> thanks superfly
[13:09] <maiatoday> I'll try to get stats for some of the stuff, could you maybe get the website stats? would that be easy for you?
[13:10] <superfly> maiatoday: I'll ask tumbleweed
[13:10] <superfly> not sure what sort of stats you're looking for
[13:10] <maiatoday> we had stats about the website on the previous approval doc
[13:11] <maiatoday> visitor to ubuntu-za.org
[13:11] <maiatoday> I'll go through the monthly reports and list our activities
[13:11] <maiatoday> I'll also try to get the pics of the blog reports and put them in the report
[13:12] <maiatoday> so with that and the stats for the different areas we should have enough
[13:12] <maiatoday> I think drubin did the irc stats last time
[13:12] <maiatoday> it would be good if we could get some testimonials from people too
[13:52] <Symmetria> wtf
[13:53] <Symmetria> vodacom is playing gangnam style as their hold music
[13:53]  * Symmetria shoots them
[14:41] <Kilos> sjoe inetpro miskien moet jy vinnig tuiswaarts
[14:42] <Kilos> of wag tot dit verby is
[14:42] <Kilos> kan miskien heal ek dink
[14:42] <Kilos> hael
[14:42] <nuvolari> middag oom kil
[14:43] <nuvolari> er
[14:43] <nuvolari> oom Kilos 
[14:43] <nuvolari> :P
[14:43] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[14:43] <Kilos> hoe gaanit seun
[14:44] <nuvolari> goed dankie en met oom?
[14:44] <Kilos> goed dankie 
[14:44] <Kilos> groot storm wat broei
[14:45] <nuvolari> lo apie
[14:45] <kbmonkey> lo nuvo!
[14:45] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[14:45] <kbmonkey> but its a long wait to get on irc in the day ;)
[14:45] <Kilos> looks like
[14:46] <Kilos> eyes gotta go first
[14:46] <nuvolari> yeah :-/
[14:46] <Kilos> nuvolari, 
[14:46] <Kilos> maiatoday> Hello people, I just made our re-approval wiki page. look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
 we need to fill in the details
 also we are on the agenda for this meeting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda
 I will work on the page, but anyone is welcome to pitch in
[14:46] <kbmonkey> lo Kilos 
[14:46] <kbmonkey> Maaz, hello
[14:46] <Maaz> Sup kbmonkey
[14:47] <Kilos> lol
[14:47] <kbmonkey> Maaz, botsnack
[14:47] <Maaz> What do you want kbmonkey Trying to butter me up or something?
[14:47] <Kilos> maiatoday> it would be good if we could get some testimonials from people too
[14:47] <Kilos> look kbmonkey 
[14:48] <kbmonkey> hey I got a friend on Ubuntu about 3 weeks ago, I will try get testimonial!
[14:48] <Kilos> nuvolari, testimonial from you is good as reining chair
[15:04] <kbmonkey> Is it just quiet here or am I lagging?
[15:04] <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee on
[15:04]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[15:05] <inetpro> Kilos: eish!
[15:05] <inetpro> geen manier nou nie
[15:05] <Kilos> dit val groot druppels maar ver uit mekaar
[15:05] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[15:05] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[15:06] <Kilos> nee wag tot dit verby is
[15:06] <inetpro> hoop maar dit hou gou weer op, soos gister
[15:06] <Kilos> lol ons het gister 1.5mm gekry
[15:06] <inetpro> ons het 6mm gehad
[15:06] <Kilos> dit moet goed val vir 30 minute ten minste
[15:07] <Kilos> kbmonkey, you better make plans that you dont miss our 
[15:07] <Kilos> um
[15:07] <Kilos> reapproval meet hey
[15:08] <kbmonkey> ah see there is an email
[15:08] <kbmonkey> so it is a irc meet?
[15:08] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for kbmonkey and Kilos!
[15:09] <inetpro> Kilos: when is the meeting?
[15:09] <Kilos> you can tell them even from dropbox #ubuntu-za is awesome
[15:09] <Kilos> next month inetpro 
[15:09] <Kilos> 18th
[15:09] <inetpro> ahh
[15:09] <Kilos> day after monthly meet
[15:09] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[15:09] <inetpro> sjoe
[15:09] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[15:09] <inetpro> Kilos: you better behave until then
[15:10] <Kilos> me?
[15:10]  * inetpro loves the smell of rain
[15:10] <Kilos> yeah
[15:10] <inetpro> Kilos: ja jy :-)
[15:11] <kbmonkey> hmmmm, petrichor
[15:21]  * Kilos wonders what i did now
[15:28] <Kilos> inetpro, its past
[15:29] <inetpro> mooi
[15:29]  * inetpro let's it dry up a bit
[15:30] <Kilos> lol
[15:30] <Kilos> 1.5mm
[15:31] <Kilos> bossies gaan nie eers opstaan nie
[15:32] <kbmonkey> maar murphey sal se die onkruid sal! he he
[15:34] <Kilos> hehe
[15:34] <Kilos> hows things kbmonkey 
[15:35] <Kilos> you happy there
[15:35] <Kilos> bossies is ontkruid man
[15:36] <Kilos> wil jy my epos adres hê
[15:39] <Kilos> maybe i must put up msdomdonner as the mail addy for dodo of the month
[15:41] <Kilos> ive had it long enough
[15:43] <Kilos> dodo of the new millenium
[15:43] <Kilos> hey tumbleweed you maintaining
[15:43] <Kilos> ??
[15:43] <Kilos> naand tannie magtie 
[15:43] <magtie> Hi Kilos
[15:44] <kbmonkey> lekker Kilos. having a koffie
[15:44] <kbmonkey> no way, you don't go "halp!!! I borked it!!"
[15:45] <Kilos> lol what you talking about
[15:45] <Kilos> hehe
[15:47] <Kilos> oh no i just clean install
[15:48] <kbmonkey> is that a bad thing?
[15:48] <Kilos> gets rid of all probs and pc always faster again
[15:48] <Kilos> unity booting very slow here
[15:49] <Kilos> might be the sick kde on second drive methinks
[15:50] <kbmonkey> lol
[15:50] <Kilos> boot-repair and kde dont like each other
[15:54] <Kilos> we get to sleep early tonight i think. the brat in bed with bad flu
[15:57] <Kilos> wb kbmonkey 
[15:57] <kbmonkey> my 8ta has run out of time. on voda now, as you see its not very stable
[15:57] <Kilos> Maaz, where the fly
[15:57] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[15:58] <Kilos> nope you were off
[15:58] <Kilos> you had the 8ta 2 + 1?
[16:00] <kbmonkey> yes the 2 + 1
[16:01] <tumbleweed> Kilos: hi
[16:01] <Kilos> hi tumbleweed all good sir?
[16:02] <tumbleweed> yaeh, think so :)
[16:02] <tumbleweed> pub quiz tonight
[16:02] <Kilos> make a note. reapproval meeting 18 dec
[16:02] <tumbleweed> righto
[16:03] <Kilos> if you got some input maia gave links inna mail
[16:07] <Kilos> wb kbmonkey 
[16:07] <kbmonkey> thx Kilos 
[17:15] <Kilos> wb mrs_fly 
[17:41] <zeref> zomg, internetz are fast here at res..... since students started leaving
[17:41] <Kilos> lol
[17:50] <Kilos> wow they selling notebooks with win8 already
[17:50] <Kilos> R3999 at game
[17:51] <Kilos> hi superfly you made it home
[17:52] <superfly> Kilos: yup, no problems today
[17:53] <superfly> tumbleweed: when you get back, I have some questions for you :-)
[17:54] <tumbleweed> superfly: sure
[17:54] <inetpro> good evening
[17:54] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[17:54] <superfly> tumbleweed: or do you have about 10 minutes now? (I don't think it'll take that long, but I'd rather buffer)
[17:54] <inetpro> Kilos: so bietjie nat geword in die noorde maar nog nie gesmelt nie
[17:54] <Kilos> mooi
[17:55] <inetpro> tumbleweed: wb
[17:56] <inetpro> Kilos: are those good devices?
[17:56] <Kilos> inetpro, what?
[17:56]  * Kilos lost
[17:56] <inetpro> Kilos: win8 notebooks
[17:56] <Kilos> must be to run win8
[17:57] <inetpro> if they are good devices it sounds like a good idea to get some to put ubuntu on them
[17:57] <Kilos> price is good
[17:57] <Kilos> would fly with ubuntu
[17:57] <Kilos> really zoom with maverick
[17:58] <inetpro> Kilos: maybe a good idea to zoom one down to the brat
[17:58] <Kilos> i just caught the add half way through
[17:58] <Kilos> lol
[17:59] <Kilos> thats 1/3 of the plane fare
[17:59] <inetpro> eish
[17:59] <Kilos> ya eish
[17:59] <inetpro> ja jy moet spaar
[17:59] <Kilos> lol
[17:59] <inetpro> klomp geld
[17:59] <Kilos> i could never buy a notebook 
[18:00] <inetpro> Kilos: never is a very long time
[18:00] <Kilos> ya but we getting older and debs is inna bad way
[18:00] <Kilos> till she goes on new meds
[18:01] <inetpro> ai
[18:01] <Kilos> the new meds kill the immune system so they have told her all teeth outso there no chance of abscesses etc
[18:02] <inetpro> sjoe
[18:02] <Kilos> ya bad news
[18:02] <Kilos> hasnt worked for 2 months now
[18:03] <Kilos> tara helps her to get up and get around
[18:04] <Kilos> now she got bad flu so i think they struggling some
[18:04] <Kilos> when on new meds you cant be near peeps with flu or other bugs
[18:05] <Kilos> oh i found the specs of her moms pc
[18:05] <Kilos> on maverick
[18:06] <inetpro> ai, ai, ai
[18:07] <inetpro> Kilos: and the cpu? I bet it's not the same as tara's
[18:07] <Kilos> but i dont see what cpu socket they use
[18:07] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20z1FzqvU
[18:08] <Kilos> thats supposed to be my pc when/if i get there
[18:09] <Kilos> but needs lotsa ram methinks
[18:10] <inetpro> Kilos: the following is what she got from cpuinfo inside windows last night
[18:10] <inetpro> http://slexy.org/view/s29pSPLGRD
[18:10] <Kilos> its only got 512mB ram tara says
[18:11] <Kilos> ok i go see
[18:11] <inetpro> I'm not sure whether that is correct or whether that is just reported by the VM
[18:12] <Kilos> model name      : Pentium II (Klamath)
[18:12] <Kilos> thats weird you dont get a 2.8 g pentium 2
[18:12]  * inetpro should find some time to play with vm, just not tonight
[18:12] <Kilos> hi magedroid 
[18:12] <magedroid> Evening all
[18:12]  * inetpro tired
[18:12] <inetpro> wb magedroid
[18:13] <magedroid> Something for your amusment http://www.innergeek.us/geek-test.html
[18:13] <magedroid> Still cannot get through to my quassel
[18:13] <Kilos> eish
[18:14] <Kilos> didnt you have time to sort it today
[18:14] <Kilos> i mailed you a price list
[18:14] <Kilos> dunno if you will be able to read it though
[18:15] <magedroid> No but it seems to work fine when i am in the shop so probable the dynamic dns
[18:15] <Kilos> ah
[18:15] <magedroid> Price list, Kilos?
[18:15] <Kilos> pc spares from a shop in pta
[18:15] <Kilos> think they cheaper than where you get stuff
[18:16] <Kilos> if you can read it give it to goosie
[18:16] <magedroid> Okay will check it thanks
[18:16] <magedroid> Goosie?
[18:16] <Kilos> the pro
[18:17] <magedroid> okay
[18:17] <Kilos> gustav
[18:17] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[18:17] <mazal> Naand oom
[18:17] <Kilos> i woulda mailed it to him but he doesnt read mails
[18:18] <mazal> I saw maia's mail , is there anything I can do to help get stats higher ?
[18:19] <magedroid> Whats stats are those mazal?
[18:19] <inetpro> Kilos: eh
[18:19] <Kilos> hmm ask her tomorrow or ask by mail mazal 
[18:19] <mazal> On that application page
[18:19] <inetpro> no money here to buy any new pc this year
[18:19] <mazal> I see they gonna have to provide stats for irc , web etc.
[18:19] <Kilos> stats for the reaproval inetpro 
[18:19] <inetpro> hmm....
[18:20] <Kilos> didnt you see maia's post here
[18:20] <inetpro> I don't think we've had to provide them before
[18:20] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[18:20] <mazal> I also was thinking of adding my testimonial to help out , but I dunno how to edit there
[18:20]  * inetpro wonders what they look at, what do they need?
[18:20] <Kilos> she says drubin did
[18:21] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda
[18:21] <Kilos> i dunno
[18:21] <Kilos> those are the 2 links she gave
[18:22] <mazal> Ja she also aksed for people to join her in the council meeting
[18:22] <Kilos> ya we all go sit there on the night
[18:22] <inetpro> ahh, just amount of active users?
[18:23] <inetpro> Kilos: you will know best
[18:23] <mazal> And stats as wll inetpro 
[18:23] <Kilos> best been 45
[18:23] <Kilos> normally 35  up and down
[18:23] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:24] <Kilos> very seldom under 30
[18:24] <inetpro> I see drubin's stats from last time at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReApprovalApplication?action=show&redirect=ZATeam%2FApprovalApplication
[18:24]  * inetpro wanders how he got those
[18:24] <Kilos> yeah
[18:24] <Kilos> ask him
[18:25] <mazal> Do you know how to add testimonials ? She also asked for that
[18:25] <inetpro> Kilos: he'll probably answer in due time
[18:26] <inetpro> we still have time to get them
[18:26] <inetpro> psydroid: wb
[18:26] <Kilos> like where would one see registered mamber
[18:26] <Kilos> registered where
[18:26] <psydroid> ty inetpro
[18:26] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[18:27] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[18:27] <mazal> lo psydroid 
[18:27] <inetpro> Kilos: on launchpad
[18:27] <psydroid> hi mazal
[18:27] <inetpro> I guess
[18:27] <Kilos> oh
[18:27] <mazal> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+members#active
[18:27] <Kilos> surely must have changed some by now
[18:27] <mazal> Is that what you looking for Kilos ?
[18:27] <Kilos> thats 2 years ago
[18:27] <Kilos> i go see
[18:27] <Kilos> ty
[18:28] <inetpro> they also need number of subscribers on the mailing lists
[18:29] <inetpro> I assume drubin will have those also
[18:29] <Kilos> there been a few new ones in the last year
[18:30] <magedroid> I see from that list morgs is the oldesr, unless i missed something
[18:30] <magedroid> Oldest
[18:32] <inetpro> magedroid: possibly some have not renewed
[18:33] <inetpro> but morgs is real old :-)
[18:33] <magedroid> Maybe we can get some of the new peeps on there
[18:33] <inetpro> really*
[18:33] <magedroid> Not really what i meant,l lol
[18:33] <inetpro> lol
[18:34] <Kilos> ya but up to date inetpro ?
[18:34] <inetpro> magedroid: I'm just joking, he's not really old
[18:34] <inetpro> longest standing member I would say :-)
[18:34] <Kilos> Maaz, seen morgs
[18:34] <Maaz> Kilos: morgs was last seen 28 days, 9 hours, 33 minutes and 4 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-10-25 02:01:52 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-10-25 04:12:21 PDT
[18:36] <Kilos> inetpro, im gonna be like highvoltage
[18:36] <Kilos> remember he didnt wanna upgrade pc because he had personally soldered stuff in it
[18:37] <inetpro> sjoe
[18:37] <Kilos> im gonna try on a sata drive with the plastid bracket broken that holds the plug in place
[18:37]  * mazal gaan lê
[18:37] <mazal> Sleep well everyone
[18:37] <Kilos> i got one sata cable thats loose at one end
[18:38] <mazal> God bless
[18:38] <magedroid> Night mazal
[18:38] <Kilos> falls off all the time so gonna solder it to drive
[18:38] <Kilos> sjoe dit was vinnig
[18:38] <Kilos> klein strond
[18:38] <magedroid> Get the pin out  for tha sata Kilos
[18:39] <Kilos> worth a try on a 500 GB drive methinks
[18:39] <Kilos> its the plastic thats gone
[18:39] <magedroid> Shows you what each cable does
[18:39] <Kilos> that black l shaped goody
[18:39] <magedroid> L
[18:40] <Kilos> ill strip and solder one by one
[18:40] <Kilos> ya L
[18:40] <Kilos> the cable is throw away anyway so its worth a try
[18:41] <magedroid> You have more skill than me at  soldering then
[18:41] <Kilos> other side of cable stills fits firmly
[18:41] <magedroid> Definately  worth a try
[18:41] <Kilos> im good at soldering
[18:41] <Kilos> hi glitterboy_ 
[18:41] <glitterboy_> hi there
[18:41] <magedroid> Bbl fish one bedtime
[18:41] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[18:42] <Kilos> k magedroid 
[18:42] <glitterboy_> thank you
[18:42] <Kilos> you come to join us or need ubuntu help glitterboy_ ?
[18:42] <glitterboy_> I need some help with ubuntu
[18:42] <Kilos> linux help too
[18:43] <Kilos> good state your prob
[18:43] <Kilos> but once fixed dont stay away hey
[18:43] <Kilos> we trying to grow users here
[18:44] <inetpro> lol
[18:44] <Kilos> are you on 12.04 or 12.10?
[18:44] <inetpro> hi glitterboy_
[18:44] <Kilos> hehe
[18:44] <Kilos> 10 points for trying inetpro 
[18:44] <glitterboy_> I'll be back.. I want to extend the battery life of a Ubuntu 11.10 installed laptop.
[18:44] <Kilos> unity or kde
[18:45] <glitterboy_> unity
[18:45] <inetpro> why did maia not use the loco.ubuntu site?
[18:45] <inetpro> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za
[18:45] <inetpro> I guess we'll have to set up the event on there
[18:46] <Kilos> glitterboy_, is your battery old?
[18:46] <Kilos> if im not mistaken it helps to plugin charger when you gonna be busy a long while
[18:47] <Kilos> i dont have a lappy
[18:47] <glitterboy_> lol
[18:47] <Kilos> horrible things
[18:47] <Kilos> the mouse goody sucks
[18:47] <glitterboy_> No not really,  in windows 7 I get less than 2 hours, in ubuntu I get a bit more (after installing powertop, and laptop-mode etc)
[18:48] <Kilos> but lots of guys here use them so if there is a way someone will tell you
[18:48] <glitterboy_> get a usb mouse
[18:48] <Kilos> im happy with desktop
[18:48] <Kilos> bigger for old eyes
[18:49] <glitterboy_> one thing I've changed is in the /etc/defualt/grub file.  I've changed the line to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pcie_aspm=force i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 i915.i915_enable_fbc=1 i915.lvds_downclock=1"
[18:49] <Kilos> inetpro, you a lappy user
[18:49] <Kilos> ideas?
[18:49] <inetpro> what's teh question?
[18:49] <glitterboy_> BUT, later on I've seen that this is actually for Sandy Bridge, and my laptop uses the GM965 chipset
[18:50] <Kilos> how to extend lappy battery life
[18:50] <inetpro> just use it less
[18:51] <Kilos> what does help to make battery last long is keep the lid closed
[18:51] <Kilos> sorry
[18:51] <inetpro> lol
[18:51] <inetpro> the less you use the battery the longer it lasts
[18:51] <inetpro> less is more
[18:51] <glitterboy_> and I guess to remove the battery all together
[18:51] <Kilos> glitterboy_, cant you plugin the charger or you use when away from power
[18:52] <Kilos> my son plugs in charger when he boots
[18:52] <Kilos> then battery stays constand
[18:52]  * inetpro has never tweaked the grub bootup options to save power
[18:52] <glitterboy_> I could, but I want to go running with it
[18:52] <Kilos> what?
[18:52] <glitterboy_> joking
[18:53] <Kilos> running as in jogging?
[18:53] <Kilos> lol
[18:53] <Kilos> thats a lappy weakness as far as im concerned
[18:53] <Kilos> the battery
[18:53] <glitterboy_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks
[18:54] <Kilos> yeah but you might at 20 mins or so
[18:54] <Kilos> if lucky
[18:54] <Kilos> plugin the charger
[18:55] <Kilos> glitterboy_, where are you
[18:55] <Kilos> and why on 11.10
[18:56] <Kilos> 3g?
[18:56] <glitterboy_> where? such as where in the world or did you think I went into sleep mode?
[18:56] <Kilos> ya where in the world
[18:56] <Kilos> lol
[18:57] <Kilos> za?
[18:57] <glitterboy_> no 3g, 11.10 because when I tried to update to 12.10 it gave "compression error" on boot
[18:57] <Kilos> eish
[18:57] <glitterboy_> at the moment I'm in Botswana, but will be back in ZA in desember
[18:57] <Kilos> 11.10 you gotta first upgrade to 12.04 then 12.10
[18:58] <Kilos> if no data prob download 12.10
[18:58] <Kilos> then install alongside to check it out first
[18:58] <glitterboy_> okay..i'll try that.. did you see the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks site? 
[18:59] <Kilos> 12.04 is quite stable now
[18:59] <Kilos> nope thats for lappy guys
[18:59] <glitterboy_> it is for Sandy bridge,  isn't there such tweaks for Core 2 Duo?
[18:59] <Kilos> only eskom messes with my power
[18:59] <glitterboy_> haha
[19:00] <glitterboy_> is there a channel called #lappy_guys
[19:00] <glitterboy_> ?'
[19:00] <Kilos> what does google say about the tweaks for core2
[19:00] <Kilos> rofl
[19:00] <glitterboy_> don't get any...
[19:00] <Kilos> weall mixed here
[19:00] <Kilos> aw
[19:00] <Kilos> then plug in the charger
[19:01] <Kilos> in the ear when running
[19:01] <glitterboy_> at least in the ear and not somewhere else
[19:01] <Kilos> lol
[19:01] <Kilos> we clean here on ubuntu-za
[19:02] <Kilos> no dirty talk
[19:02] <Kilos> how come you never been here before?
[19:02] <Kilos> we got guys from all over the world
[19:03] <Kilos> inetpro, you looking at the tweaks
[19:03] <inetpro> hmm... nee
[19:03] <inetpro> sorry
[19:03] <glitterboy_> I think i've been here before, I've been playing with Ubuntu since 6.04
[19:03]  * inetpro got a bit distracted
[19:03] <Kilos> maybe it can help you then your ear will last longer too
[19:04] <Kilos> and hear better
[19:04] <Kilos> wow thats great glitterboy_ 
[19:04] <Kilos> i started with 8.04 but only got going some with 8.10
[19:06] <glitterboy_> can you direct me to any good ubuntu/debain reading material.. hopefully free ;)
[19:06] <Kilos> wb kbmonkey 
[19:06] <kbmonkey> hello!
[19:06] <kbmonkey> hi smile4ever 
[19:06] <kbmonkey> and Kilos 
[19:06] <Kilos> what you wanna read
[19:06] <Kilos> there is a LPI book
[19:07] <smile4ever> hi! :)
[19:07] <glitterboy_> i wanna know more and more!! 
[19:07] <Kilos> Maaz, LPI manual
[19:07] <Maaz> http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual
[19:07] <glitterboy_> awesome!!
[19:07] <Kilos> we  actually started classes but our teachers got sick
[19:08] <glitterboy_> sick of?
[19:08] <Kilos> or life overtook them
[19:08] <glitterboy_> thanks Maaz
[19:08] <Kilos> no they got too busy working and moving around
[19:08] <Kilos> kbmonkey, voda sucks there
[19:09] <glitterboy_> brb
[19:09] <Kilos> you already been of and on
[19:09] <kbmonkey> on 8ta now. got a few megs :]
[19:09] <kbmonkey> couldnt take it anymore. lol
[19:09] <Kilos> yay
[19:09] <kbmonkey> hey nuvolari. do you still use mutt?
[19:09] <Kilos> i stretch the 2+1 over 2 months
[19:10] <kbmonkey> I ate the +1 to update two machines
[19:10] <kbmonkey> download a new release + updates
[19:10] <Kilos> dont you rsync archives
[19:11] <kbmonkey> couldn't. 
[19:11] <Kilos> i can do a clean install and use 30m to update upgrade
[19:11] <Kilos> eish
[19:11] <kbmonkey> was for a sid distro. different repos.
[19:11] <Kilos> oi
[19:11] <kbmonkey> oi!
[19:11] <kbmonkey> how come I am here twice
[19:11] <magedroid> Back
[19:12] <Kilos> musta been a quick disconnect
[19:12] <magedroid> Vodacom is doing  there 20 gigs for 499 again
[19:12] <kbmonkey> wb magedroid 
[19:12] <Kilos> before freenode saw you were gone you were back
[19:13] <Kilos> one can get an ecs mb for R500 from that shop magedroid 
[19:14] <Kilos> one that takes ddr3 ram
[19:15] <smile4ever> Lol, zooming takes 3 seconds in Firefox now :p too many addons :p
[19:15] <Kilos> lol
[19:15] <magedroid> Kilos do they courier?
[19:15] <Kilos> i got firefox again but its not gonna use any more data on updates
[19:16] <Kilos> magedroid, theres a fax number and all
[19:16] <kbmonkey> turning off smooth scrolling might help smile4ever 
[19:16] <Kilos> if you cant read ask me and ill give the info
[19:16] <magedroid> Just about to run out of airtime
[19:16] <Kilos> oi
[19:17] <kbmonkey> everyone is having airtime bad-luck :c
[19:17] <smile4ever> kbmonkey: it does! :) now it's only one second :p
[19:17] <Kilos> yip
[19:17] <smile4ever> thanks :)
[19:17] <kbmonkey> np smile4ever :]
[19:17] <smile4ever> :3
[19:18] <kbmonkey> i like chrome browser
[19:18] <Kilos> ya its not bad
[19:18] <Kilos> i use opera
[19:18] <kbmonkey> and Kilos just wgets his internet ;)
[19:18] <Kilos> quiker
[19:19] <Kilos> lol
[19:19] <Kilos> quicker
[19:19] <magedroid> I use more than one according to what i want to do
[19:19] <kbmonkey> i'm keen to try the suckless browser
[19:19] <inetpro> 22/11 21:12:12 <magedroid> Vodacom is doing  there 20 gigs for 499 again
[19:19] <magedroid> Tried lynx for the first time
[19:20] <inetpro> magedroid: where did you see that?
[19:20] <magedroid> Sorry their
[19:20] <Kilos> i tried ff chromium and opera for a time but whew
[19:20] <magedroid> Mybb
[19:20] <Kilos> where did the data bundle go
[19:20] <inetpro> mooi!
[19:20]  * inetpro shall have to check that out
[19:20] <magedroid> Supposed to start sometime nowish
[19:22] <kbmonkey> i used lynx a lot while travelling. great for looking up stuff, not so good for media rich sites :p
[19:23] <kbmonkey> amazing low bandwidth sufring!
[19:23] <magedroid> Was trying it through an ssh coonection to my shop server
[19:23] <magedroid> Connection even
[19:23] <kbmonkey> err, surfing. sufring is what you feel when bandwidth runs out ;)
[19:24] <Kilos> yeah
[19:24] <Kilos> and links methinks
[19:24] <kbmonkey> magedroid, you might be interested in 'mosh'. it's ssh but for bad connections.
[19:24] <Kilos> was 2 of them
[19:26] <kbmonkey> anyone here has some offlineimap experience?
[19:27] <magedroid> kbmonkey will check it out
[19:28] <magedroid> Offline as in?
[19:28] <glitterboy_> see you all later.. got to go
[19:29] <Kilos> ok cheers glitterboy_ pop back soon
[19:29]  * magedroid is skip watching the matrix reloaded
[19:30] <kbmonkey> offlineimap is a tool that syncs your mail (say gmail) to a local imap directory
[19:30] <kbmonkey> so you can connect your mail client to a local copy of your imap
[19:30] <kbmonkey> useful for slow/bad connections. it syncs back in the background
[19:30] <Kilos> kbmonkey, why not use pop
[19:31] <Kilos> then it only fetches new mail
[19:31] <kbmonkey> because pop does not sync mail flags across clients
[19:31] <Kilos> and leaves the rest at gail etc
[19:31] <Kilos> whew
[19:31] <Kilos> you always get so invloved
[19:31] <smile4ever> byee :p
[19:31] <kbmonkey> lol
[19:32] <kbmonkey> byee
[19:32] <Kilos> involved as well
[19:32] <Kilos> toods kbmonkey  be good
[19:32] <Kilos> oh toods smile
[19:32] <magedroid> Use thunderbird but do an offline sync before i go home
[19:32] <Kilos> i dont read fast enough
[19:33] <kbmonkey> plug your brain into the pc, Kilos 
[19:33] <Kilos> oh my it will forget how to boot
[19:34] <kbmonkey> harhar
[19:37] <Kilos> magedroid, for soldering thin copper wires and all pc stuff get resin core sloder not acid core
[19:37] <Kilos> and the thin one works better
[19:37] <Kilos> solder
[19:38] <Kilos> heat what you wanna solder with the iron then apply solder and it should rund to the two connections and not leave a point behind when removing iron
[19:39] <magedroid> I have some, wiil try it on a external crad reade4r that has diconnected wires
[19:41] <Kilos> first clean the irons tip onna piece of cloth when hot then tin the tip
[19:43] <magedroid> Will do
[19:44] <Kilos> maybe ill try make a movie of it sometime
[19:45] <magedroid> Cool idea
[19:45] <Kilos> when all good the solders runs
[19:45] <Kilos> 3 of us soldered all the fone lines in the pta exchange many years ago
[19:46] <Kilos> whew
[19:46] <Kilos> 40 years ago
[19:46] <Kilos> maybe there was only 1000 peeps in pta back then
[19:49] <magedroid> I think a few more than tha Kilos, 1002 maybe
[19:49] <inetpro> Kilos: sounds like you really need to make a movie from that
[19:49] <Kilos> rofl
[19:49] <Kilos> its so easy
[19:50] <magedroid> Did you hluhluwe was on manual exchange only 15 years ago
[19:50] <magedroid> Kilos only if you know how
[19:50] <Kilos> first the wires must be clean'
[19:50] <Kilos> as in just striiped
[19:50] <Kilos> stripped
[19:51] <Kilos> that is plastic coating off
[19:51] <Kilos> if you can  tin each one
[19:51] <Kilos> hold it on the freshly tinned iron and touch solder on the wire
[19:52] <Kilos> when temp right solder will flow onto wire
[19:53] <Kilos> then you put some fresh solder on the iron and put both wires on together same time and solder will join them
[19:53] <Kilos> lift off iron and blow cool
[19:53] <Kilos> 1 or 2 secs
[19:53] <Kilos> well done
[19:53] <kbmonkey> cold wires repel hot solder.
[19:53] <magedroid> Will give it a go
[19:54] <Kilos> if it leaves points you were too slow to put them on the iron aftyer tinning it
[19:54] <Kilos> yip as wires warm to right temp the solder flows onto them
[19:54] <Kilos> very easy
[19:55] <Kilos> you can practise on thicker wires so you can watch as the temp is right how it flows
[19:55] <Kilos> practise on scrap wires first
[19:56] <Kilos> oh
[19:56] <kbmonkey> a wet sponge to wipe the iron point clean helps too
[19:56] <Kilos> there are some wires without plastic coating in modern things
[19:56] <kbmonkey> get the resin buildup on the tip off
[19:56] <Kilos> yip
[19:56] <Kilos> i use finger to wipe off
[19:56] <kbmonkey> Kilos, do you have an assorted collection of wires at home?
[19:56] <kbmonkey> finger? eish, hard man.
[19:57] <Kilos> bits for speakers and cellphone chargers
[19:57] <Kilos> and power cords
[19:57] <Kilos> no man
[19:57] <kbmonkey> ;D
[19:57] <Kilos> you can dip your finger into molten solder quickly
[19:57] <Kilos> only once though
[19:58] <Kilos> second time all oil gone and you burn
[19:58] <magedroid> Okay then
[19:58] <Kilos> oil/fat whatever
[19:58] <magedroid> On that note iam off to bed night all
[19:58] <Kilos> hehe
[19:59] <Kilos> night magedroid sleep tight
[19:59] <Kilos> whew me too
[19:59] <Kilos> sleep tight kbmonkey and inetpro  and all others
[19:59] <inetpro> goeie nag oom
[19:59] <Kilos> see you tomorrow
[19:59]  * inetpro gaan ook slaap
[19:59] <Kilos> lekker slaap
[20:00] <kbmonkey> ah, 
[20:01] <inetpro> kbmonkey?
[20:01] <kbmonkey> yes inetpro 
[20:02] <inetpro> kbmonkey: why you say ah?
[20:02] <kbmonkey> cos I missed kilos leaving
[20:02] <kbmonkey> just too slow
[20:03] <inetpro> lol
[20:03] <inetpro> ok, good night
[20:03] <kbmonkey> I found the option, maxage, for ignoring old imap emails :)
[20:03] <kbmonkey> ah, good night!
[20:33] <tumbleweed> superfly: 'sup
[20:34] <superfly> tumbleweed: was just wondering about building packages for PPAs on Launchpad, but then I remembered that you can do that via Recipes, and I've been reading up on that. Looks simple enough.
[20:34] <tumbleweed> it is fairly straightforward, yes
[20:34] <superfly> However, I am beyond tired at the moment, so I'm heading to bed.
[20:34] <tumbleweed> :)
[21:12] <TaraLS> Hey hey hey
[21:12] <TaraLS> The CPU on my mom's computer is LGA 775.
[21:13] <TaraLS> confluency, superfly magespawn  *wave*
[21:27] <TaraLS> inetpro, Heeeey.
[21:32] <TaraLS> inetpro, Hey hey hey. My mom's cpu socket is LGA 775. That's the same as mine, isn't iT?
[21:54] <TaraLS> :(