[00:00] <adknight87> almoxarife: added a shortcut to my launcher so I can enable and disable it on the fly
[00:00] <blackshirt> hello anyone ...
[00:00] <Liveware> when I run wubi.exe to install it only lets me select either C drive or D drive (no option for whole HDD) and only lets me set installation size to 30gb max
[00:00] <Liveware> why?
[00:00] <dr_willis> Liveware:  you dont want to use WUBI if you are goiong to get rid of windows..
[00:01] <dr_willis> wubi installs IN/ON the windows drives
[00:01] <blackshirt> liveware, you should one ....
[00:01] <dr_willis> make a live usb.. boot it..  tell it to use the whole hd = no moar windows
[00:01] <blackshirt> choose one
[00:01] <Liveware> bare with me :P I'm not this bad with most tech. just new to linux.
[00:01] <Liveware> ah okay
[00:01] <almoxarife> Liveware: but you can have more than one virt-drive
[00:01] <c0dr>  
[00:01] <mutante> Liveware: the "win32-loader.exe" is different , it does a "real" install after reboot,,but it is Debian
[00:01] <dr_willis> forget wubi ever existed... best thing you can do
[00:02] <blackshirt> Liveware, wubi would make image file .....
[00:02] <Liveware> ah okay cool. thanks.
[00:02] <Liveware> so live usb. boot. install, whole drive. then magic happy fun time :D
[00:03] <blackshirt> good luck ...
[00:03] <Jibual> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 on a Macbook 2,1 but after the parition it crashes, any ideas?
[00:05] <htc> is signing up to amazon web services and getting a ubuntu virtual machine there just like buying your own computer but cheaper?
[00:05] <adknight87> dr_willis: Besides it running wubi isn't so bad I've made a 160gig img for ubuntu :P
[00:05] <dr_willis> adknight87:  friends dont let friends use wubi...
[00:05] <ikonia> htc: no
[00:06] <adknight87> dr_willis: So kind :D
[00:06] <Liveware> dr_willis that needs to be made and sold on a t shirt :p
[00:06] <htc> what is the difference, ikonia?
[00:07] <ikonia> htc: it's a shared resource instance on a virtual platform hosted on the ineternet......what do you think is the difference
[00:07] <dgfd> ciao
[00:07] <dgfd> list
[00:07] <htc> If you would like to play around with a second computer, isn't AWS a good way to do it and save money, ikonia?
[00:08] <RJ3000> hi
[00:08] <ikonia> htc: up to you
[00:08] <htc> thanks, ikonia!
[00:11] <Jibual> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 on a Macbook 2,1 but after the parition it crashes, any ideas?
[00:12] <rafase282> hello
[00:12] <enriq> ActionParsnip, no luck with noveau.blacklist=1
[00:12] <enriq> black screen :(
[00:13] <rafase282> I have a pogoplug Pro, and I want to install ubuntu server on it, it does not have a screen so I will not need the gui in case it comes with it which I doubt anyways.
[00:13] <rafase282> Is anyone familiar with the process?
[00:14] <Liveware> update - thats the Live USB being made now
[00:15] <hilo> My laptop, when on battery power, sometimes spins the cooling fan full blast without regard to temperature or anything else. It just stays on full blast. It occurs more frequently when I resume from standby. As soon as I connect the power cord, the fan spins down and regulates itself as usual.
[00:15] <blackshirt> jibual, like your vga problem... Have you try alternate version ?
[00:15] <hilo> This issue is particularly bad because it kills my battery
[00:15] <rafase282> Liveware, what do you mean by update?
[00:15] <AlexNagy> okay, I'm really upset so I apologize in advance if I get short with someone.
[00:15] <hilo> So far, the only solution is to reboot until it stops happening, which if I'm unlucky, is even more costly to my battery.
[00:16] <almoxarife> get short..... :) gosh no
[00:16] <adknight87> another acpi problem
[00:17] <Jibual> blackshirt: vga problem? no havent tried a different version
[00:17] <Jibual> i dont think my problem is a vga problem
[00:17] <Liveware> rafase282: I was asking some questions before. letting anyone here who was reading before know i am following their instructions
[00:17] <blackshirt> jibual, try use alternate version of ubuntu installer
[00:17] <Liveware> aka updating them
[00:17] <adknight87> hilo: what model and make is the Laptop
[00:18] <Jibual> blackshirt: but i want the latest :(
[00:18] <rafase282> ah okay, I thought you were answering my query.
[00:18] <bazhang> !alternate | blackshirt
[00:18] <hilo> adknight87,  HP 6530b
[00:18] <AlexNagy> first, my setup: Toshiba Satellite dual-booting Ubuntu 12.04LTS and FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-p4. doing pretty good over multiple shut-downs over the past week (including 6 with a custom kernel). I use GRUB as my bootloader. Last night I booted into Ubuntu to move some files onto an ext2 partition I use to move stuff between Ubuntu and FreeBSD. While moving those files I run the update manager (hadn't done so in a month, figured it was time, I also sp
[00:18] <AlexNagy> end most of my time on FreeBSD). After the updates, i could not boot into FreeBSD. it doesn't show up as an option in GRUB.
[00:19] <Liveware> rafase282: no sorry. a little to new for that :p
[00:19] <enriq> ok my new install freezes at: pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket1: cs: IO port probe 0x3000-0x7ffff: excluding 0x3000-0x30dd 0x3400-0x34ff 0x3800-0x38ff 0x3c00-0x3cff
[00:20] <adknight87> hilo: http://tuxtweaks.com/2008/08/how-to-control-fan-speeds-in-ubuntu/
[00:20] <almoxarife> enriq: assume the lesser worse case, the install media was corrupt, create new, install again
[00:21] <enriq> almoxarife, I can boot from the cd and "try ubuntu"
[00:21] <rafase282> ah okay
[00:21] <rafase282> I'm downloading the server image fro arm
[00:21] <privateDlister> Hey guys.
[00:21] <rafase282> hopefully I can just copy the rootfs there and the device will boot it like it does with archlinux-arm
[00:22] <privateDlister> So I installed gnome and the login screen is certainly not unity, however when I actually log in it goes back to exactly how it was before.
[00:23] <almoxarife> enriq: fine, the live works, the install does not, is there a 'alternate' iso for what you are wanting to install? that is my first option
[00:23] <adknight87> privateDlister: you might have it set to use gdm
[00:23] <adknight87> privateDlister: lightdm is the unity login
[00:23] <privateDlister> I figured it'd be something like that, but I dunno how. I chose the standard gdm when i installed gnome
[00:23] <enriq> almoxarife, same thing happens with 12.04 and 12.10
[00:24] <almoxarife> enriq: tell me that happens with the 'alternate' and i will tell you to forget trying to install
[00:25] <adknight87> privateDlister:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[00:25] <enriq> almoxarife, what is the "alternate"
[00:25] <AlexNagy> I'm not sure what went wrong or how to fix it at this time.
[00:25] <bazhang> almoxarife, the alternate is no more
[00:25] <adknight87> Do I get brownie points for being here
[00:25] <privateDlister> adknight87: set it to GDM?
[00:26] <enriq> oh now it booted!?
[00:26] <adknight87> privateDlister:  lightdm
[00:26] <almoxarife> bazhang: really? would the net install resemble the alternate?
[00:26] <privateDlister> Feels weird this trying to get me to gnome... OK, I'll reboot and see what happens.
[00:27] <hilo> adknight87, how do I use this to control fan speeds? When I try to run the program "sudo /usr/sbin/fancontrol", it tosses back an error saying there is no configuration file.
[00:28] <Liveware> just to say thanks to almoxarife/dr_willis for helping out. My netbook is now happily installing Ubuntu instead of win XP and I cant wait to have a nice little back up machine :D
[00:28] <Liveware> thanks
[00:29] <adknight87> hilo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42737
[00:29] <adknight87> brb
[00:29] <privateDlister_> adknight87: yeah that did what I figured it'd do. I actually want to convert to gnome for a while,
[00:30] <enriq> well this is apparently randomly freezing at  pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket1: cs: IO port probe 0x3000-0x7ffff: excluding 0x3000-0x30dd 0x3400-0x34ff 0x3800-0x38ff 0x3c00-0x3cff
[00:31] <privateDlister_> Anyone else know how to sort it? I tried installing gnome, and while the login screen has gone to gnome nothing else seems to have
[00:31] <hilo> adknight87, I saw that article. My sensors output does not include any information about fans. I'm not sure what I need to do to actually return the fan to the mode that normally governs it
[00:32] <GuestGuestGuest> ...
[00:34] <bastidrazor> ...
[00:34] <enriq> ...
[00:34] <KsM> ellipses
[00:35] <shinobi> xchat doesn't add to the top panel in 12.04 gnome classic. Please advise.
[00:36] <bazhang> shinobi, got xchat-indicator installed?
[00:37] <mu> issues getting TTY screen resolution set and not messing w/ available options in Xfce... editing file /etc/default/grub
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> enriq: do you use pcmcia ?
[00:37] <mu> *available options = screen res in Xwindows
[00:38] <mu> am i way out in left field?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> mu: did you edit other files?
[00:39] <mu> no
[00:39] <mu> i did run "update-grub" after editing /etc/default/grub
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> mu: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> mu: there are other files to edit :)
[00:40] <mu> thanks for the reading material ActionParsnip
[00:42] <darkenvy> for some reason I get stuttering every 5-10 mintues when watching video
[00:42] <enriq> ActionParsnip, emmm... not explicitly I think... maybe the video card is pcmcia or something
[00:42] <darkenvy> it doesnt seem to effect videogames or anything else. Just video stuttering with flash, VLC player, DVD player, HTML5 players anythiung video or audipo
[00:42] <darkenvy> *auio
[00:42] <darkenvy> *audio
[00:43] <shinobi> bazhang: probably not, didn't know I needed it.
[00:44] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 ... how can i view the activity of my cpu in a scrolling chart type display ... as the windoze taskman ... seems i used to do that on older versions of ubuntu ???
[00:45] <bazhang> Tex_Nick, is this gnome-shell, unity shell, or what
[00:45] <Tex_Nick> bazhang : unity
[00:45] <Skibicki> Tex_Nick Psensor
[00:45] <enriq> ActionParsnip, sorry maybe I don't understand... I mean, I don't have any external pcmcia card
[00:46] <bazhang> Tex_Nick, not sure about unity shell, for gnome-shell there are several extensions that do exactly that
[00:46] <leogitimate> Using unity on 12.04 after closing the only active window, i can't switch workspace right away ( ctrl+alt+cursor ) , i still have to click on desktop
[00:46] <hilo> adknight87, I can't find my chipset in the configuration file as instructed in the link. My chipset is ICH9.
[00:48] <Tex_Nick> bazhang ... it must be gnome that i'm thinking bout ... hey thanks
[00:49] <Skibicki> Hi, I have a problem with inconsistent booting. A report is on launchpad
[00:49] <Skibicki> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1081819
[00:49] <Tex_Nick> Skibicki ... looking for info on Psensor
[00:51] <Skibicki> Tex_Nick you may need to install lm-sensors before psensor
[00:51] <Tex_Nick> Skibicki : hmmm looks good ... i'g goint to give it a go ... thanks
[00:52] <shinobi> bazhang: no that didn't work. Does you Xchat minimize to the tray?
[00:54] <joffery> im using xubuntu 12.10, fresh install.  i go to the ubuntu software center and whenever i hit install, it just does nothing.  why would this be?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376149/ here is the traceback when i run from terminal and hit "install"
[00:54] <satwood> is there any downside to putting cron jobs on a drive that mounts after complete bootup and using a symlink ?
[00:56] <Mike9863> Somehow my IP got added to /etc/hosts.deny for sshd. I can ssh in under a proxy and remove that listing from the file, but when I exit that ssh session it gets added back somehow. Does anyone have any ideas?
[00:56] <18VAAGTCI> anyone care to take a stab at helping me cool down my laptop... it's been cleaned out and cputemp sits at appx 95 not under load? running 12.04 64 bit
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> joffery: if you close software centre and run:  sudo apt-get update     is it smooth?
[00:57] <adknight87> My laptop is a 138
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> 18VAAGTCI: what make and model?
[00:57] <cowsquad> does anybody know how to configure the MAIL command to be able to send email. I try to send emails but they wont get send out. any thoughts/]?
[00:57] <adknight87> F
[00:57] <18VAAGTCI> ActionParsnip: travelmate (acer)
[00:57] <18VAAGTCI> ActionParsnip: 8572G
[00:58] <Isaban> cowsquad: could be a firewall issue
[00:58] <andygraybeal_> is duplicity the default ubuntu back up software?
[00:58] <extropy> my update installer app always opens up in a screen that doesn't exist
[00:59] <extropy> how I do I make it open on the correct output?
[00:59] <cowsquad> well when I install the mailutils progran, some screen pop out and i select something, but I dont remember what option was.
[00:59] <extropy> like it's open but there's not window
[01:00] <extropy> like it's in the memory location of my HDMI port where no display is connected instead of my VGA
[01:00] <extropy> ubuntu also doesn't recognize my monitor and won't let me use it's native resolution which is equally frustrating
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> 18VAAGTCI: its a dual GPU system
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> 18VAAGTCI: nvidia and intel
[01:01] <18VAAGTCI> ActionParsnip: you got it
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> 18VAAGTCI: is that right?
[01:01] <Isaban> extropy: you can force it to use a resolution
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> 18VAAGTCI: thats why then
[01:01] <Isaban> 18VAAGTCI: dual GPU's confuse ubuntu
[01:01] <18VAAGTCI> ActionParsnip: I had a sneaking suspicion... any work-around to kill the nvidia
[01:01] <extropy> Isaban: can I force the update install to open on a display that actually exists instead of "invisible land"?
[01:02] <18VAAGTCI> Isaban: I have tried multiple different distro's
[01:02] <Isaban> extropy: use apt-get
[01:02] <18VAAGTCI> Isaban: puppy, opensuse, ubuntu
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> 18VAAGTCI: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/bumblebee-30-released-nvidia-optimus.html
[01:02] <Isaban> 18VAAGTCI: all linux systems are going to have problems with duel GPU's
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> 18VAAGTCI: its far from good in Linux with switching rubbish and is best just avoided imho
[01:02] <extropy> Isaban use apt-get for what? uninstall/reinstall the update manager?
[01:03] <Isaban> extropy: naw, use apt-get to update
[01:03] <18VAAGTCI> ActionParsnip: agreed as this thing is more of a panini grill than a laptop
[01:03] <Isaban> extropy: then you can at least have updated
[01:03] <HH> I just installed xchat and it threw me in here. how do I go to a server that isn't in this predefined list? D:
[01:03] <extropy> Isaban: I can isntall updates just using the update manager's icon ... it just never shows me a window for the application
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> 18VAAGTCI: may also help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[01:04] <Dr_willis> extropy,  i imagine theres some setting file that may have rembered its location and is somehow confused. you could try cleaning out old configs.. and also check for any config files owned by root. those can cause all sorts of weird issues
[01:04] <18VAAGTCI> ActionParsnip: I tried bumblebee in the past but had no success with the temp going down
[01:04] <18VAAGTCI> ActionParsnip: however I'm willing to give it another go here
[01:04] <extropy> Dr_willis any idea what the name of the conf file would be
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> 18VAAGTCI: the commands in the hybrid guide may help
[01:05] <extropy> guess I can just google it
[01:05] <Isaban> extropy: did you ever have a second monitor connected?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> HH: try:  /connect irc.server.net
[01:05] <18VAAGTCI> ActionParsnip: I will most certainly take a look at both, tyvm
[01:05] <18VAAGTCI> ActionParsnip: I will get back to you in a bit here, temp already up to 98
[01:06] <extropy> Isaban: I did at one point connect an HDMI display when I had one but no longer have access to an HDMI device
[01:06] <Isaban> extropy: that's the problem
[01:06] <Isaban> it's trying to open it on that device
[01:07] <extropy> Isaban: why does it try to open it on a device that it should know is no longer connected. Also, why is it that when I close the update manager and re-open it the window comes up on my connect screen but when it automatically launches itself it opens up on the screen that doesn't exist?
[01:08] <extropy> that would suggest that it's launching using two separate configurations
[01:09] <extropy> or rather a predetermined configuration and then an automatic one, depending on circumstances
[01:09] <Isaban> hmmm, that's strange. I don't know why it is doing it. Did you install with a second monitor?
[01:09] <extropy> sure didn't, something tells me that the GPU itself might consider my VGA output secondary and my HDMI output as primary, perhaps?
[01:10] <Isaban> ya, that's possible
[01:10] <Isaban> look at the docs with the card
[01:10] <enriq> ActionParsnip, can i disable pcmcia?
[01:10] <extropy> I find that the newer the hardware I try to use with linux the more problems I have
[01:10] <extropy> case in point my Atom D2700 box won't even finish booting in 64-bit ubuntu desktop
[01:11] <Isaban> extropy: that's cause support has not been added
[01:12] <extropy> Isaban: as someone who owns the hardware and could test future efforts to support it is there anything I can do to move the process along? I'm not exactly a kernel hacker, driver-guru
[01:12] <MK``> How can I move the clock on my taskbar? I'm on Ubuntu 11.10, classic desktop
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> enriq: if you blacklist the driver module it won't load
[01:12] <Ebay5150> hi team! any advice for 10.04 install on compaq presario?
[01:13] <Ebay5150> 12.04 oops
[01:13] <Isaban> extropy: best way is to look at crash logs and submit them
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> enriq: could also disable the slot in BIOS if you can
[01:13] <Isaban> Ebay5150: what do you mean?
[01:13] <Ebay5150> system running really slow after install
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> Ebay5150: in what sense?
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> Ebay5150: what video chip do you use?
[01:14] <Ebay5150> nvidia geforce 6150 le
[01:14] <enriq> ActionParsnip, ok trying bios way
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> Ebay5150: did you install the proprietary nvidia driver?
[01:14] <Isaban> ram & cpu Ebay5150 ?
[01:14] <Ebay5150> yes, now using update 173 on the list
[01:14] <extropy> GeForce 6-series probably needs the legacy driver, maybe I'm thinking 5-series
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> Ebay5150: it will run with nvidia-current
[01:15] <_cyber> ciao!
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> extropy: I run a 6150 on the 260 driver :)
[01:15] <Ebay5150> hmm, might have to revert back to the basic driver then
[01:15] <extropy> ah, maybe I'm thinking of my old GeForce 3 Deluxe, lol
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Ebay5150: remove the driver and install the nvidia-current package, you will use the 295 driver and it'll be ok
[01:16] <Ebay5150> cool, will give it a shot...
[01:16] <extropy> default should be find, I'm guessing nVidia's "experimental" drivers are strictly for Fermi or newer
[01:16] <egal> anyone with bumblebee and nvidia 310 driver?
[01:17] <extropy> so what actually launched my update manager automatically, cron?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> extropy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376180/ :)
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> Ebay5150: ^
[01:17] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: so I just bounced after installing bumblebee... now to get my screen resolution back... don't even care about 2d vs 3d desktop at this point
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: try installing the xfce4 package, log off and log in to the XFCE session, you'll probably have a smoother time :)
[01:18] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: ooh, that sounds like a descent idea
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: no compiz or compiz using offloaded CPU stuff
[01:19] <AMDAthlon> .
[01:19] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: what's the actual package for xfce?
[01:19] <extropy> I love low-end window managers like xfce, fvwm, blackbox, etc; so lean
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: xfce4 is a minimal xfce desktop
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> extropy: xfce is a desktop, it uses xfwm4 as the window manmager :)
[01:20] <extropy> I'll bet compiz is what's bringing minecraft to it's knees when I try to run it now that I think about it
[01:20] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: ahh
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> extropy: I'd put money on it
[01:20] <mo0ony> Hello
[01:20] <leogitimate> Hi, I'm using unity on 12.04 after closing the only active window, i can't switch workspace right away ( ctrl+alt+cursor ) , i still have to click on desktop before I'm able to switch, is this normal?  I never experienced this with older ubuntu versions
[01:21] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: so that's simply the xubuntu-desktop from what I'm seeing yah?
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: that will install lots of other apps too, its an option
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: xfce4 is just the desktop and nothing else :)
[01:21] <enriq> ActionParsnip, how to I blacklist for example yenta_socket.ko
[01:21] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: only 270mb of space... how far we have come
[01:22] <extropy> man, speaking of which, anyone minecrafters find a way to get Java to stop switching to my desktop in the heat of combat? it's insanely frustrating
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> enriq: echo "blacklist yenta_socket" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > /dev/null
[01:22] <nydel> leogitimate: are you closing the active window with a keystroke?
[01:22] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: temp is moderatly improved at 59... but I think we can do better ;)
[01:23] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: well, more than moderate
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: hehe my Raring install is a little over 3Gb with full compiz / unity / Gnome / codecs and so on.
[01:23] <leogitimate> nydel: no, with the close button
[01:24] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: I have a second system(to replace this one) its a dual core on a solid state that is just under a gb
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: nice
[01:24] <rafase282> I'm trying to get the rootfs from ubuntu server which is on a img file on my usb stick
[01:24] <leogitimate> after the app closes, it appears to be still active on the panel
[01:24] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: brutally it's 2x faster than any of the ones in the office b/c of the ssd
[01:24] <rafase282> I try to mount it to copy the content but im having trouble mounting it
[01:24] <oldmankdude> quick question: why isn't a kernel being installed in /boot when i run "apt-get install linux-image" ?
[01:24] <egal> how to make software raid in 12.10?
[01:24] <leogitimate> although i see via conky that the application is no longer running
[01:24] <oldmankdude> and/or update-grub ?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: I'm trying to make the OS load fully to ram on boot, then recreate the squashfs file on shutdown. Faster than any SSD :)
[01:25] <enriq> ActionParsnip, cheers
[01:25] <nydel> leogitimate: try closing it, pressing "escape" on keyboard then switching workspace with the normal hotkeys, tell me if that works please. & have you tried this with multiple applications or only one in particular?
[01:25] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: price of ram I think that's a noble endeavor
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: plus moving web cache to RAM also reduces wear
[01:25] <tyler_d> tyler_d: what are you using for ram management?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: thats why I'm trying. Its hard. Boot times will be AGES but the OS will scream along
[01:26] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: brb, going in on xfce
[01:26] <extropy> anyone else have problems with keyboard and mouse input in Java guis?
[01:26] <extropy> I think it's an OpenJDK problem, maybe I should ask there
[01:27] <egal> extropy: my mouse fails when on fullscreen
[01:27] <leogitimate> nydel: it appears completely unresponsive to keystrokes.  until i execute a mouse-click on the desktop
[01:27] <dibblego> I bet this question is never asked, but how does one get rid of the silly desktop antics on 12.04 so that I can get my own wm running on top?
[01:27] <extropy> egal: I've never seen a linux distro play minecraft without this problem. It would be a miracle if it ever got fixed
[01:27] <tyler_d> ahhhh
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: better?
[01:28] <somsip> dibblego: just install your own wm and chose that as the session on login
[01:28] <Triclops200> extropy: Never has happened on any of my distros
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> dibblego: you may have the option in the sessions menu in lightdm
[01:28] <k1l_> egal: "lsb_release -a|pastebinit" and show the link here
[01:28] <dibblego> somsip: I want gnome to run my wm
[01:28] <nydel> leogitimate: does it matter what application you close, or does it do this with anything? and is it only when you close the last application, that is, does it happen if another application takes focus?
[01:28] <egal> extropy: i've never played mc :)
[01:28] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: slightly mehtinks... I'm not sure the screen resolution is any better, but certainly a lot cleaner off the hop... bit of tweaking and I'm a happy camper
[01:28] <extropy> Triclops200 are you using Sun's JVM or OpenJDK?
[01:28] <somsip> dibblego: what wm?
[01:29] <Triclops200> extropy: OpenJDK
[01:29] <leogitimate> nydel: behavior is the same for all applications
[01:29] <dibblego> somsip: xmonad
[01:29] <extropy> Triclops200: I'm interested to know how you accomplished this. Are you speaking the case of minecraft specifically or all Java apps?
[01:29] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: updating now, but temp is 55... aaaahhhh
[01:30] <leogitimate> nydel: looks like i found the culprit, it was conky, if i kill it, behavior is normal
[01:30] <somsip> dibblego: I use a tiling wm too. Just choose it on login, and gnome will do whatever it needs to do AFAICT
[01:30] <MiningMarsh> extropy: All apps have worked fine for me also. On both icedtea (openjdk) and suns/oracles
[01:30] <Triclops200> extropy: All. I'm not sure how, it used to act up for a while, but it fixed itself a few months ago. In the meantime, a fix is to drag the window to the very top left before fullscreening
[01:30] <dibblego> somsip: I typically set up xmonad a bit differently, due to gnome being a monolithic beast
[01:30] <vivid> extropy, ive solved those issues by updating liblwjgl within ~/.minecraft
[01:31] <somsip> dibblego: I installed ubuntu minimal, then installed my wm (awesome), and allowed any gnome dependencies to be picked up as required. works fine
[01:31] <extropy> vivid: interesting, so it's a liblwjgl problem then?
[01:31] <egal> extropy: Triclops200: OJDK 6 + 7 sets mouse when window maximized
[01:31] <Triclops200> dibblego: I tried xmonad, use awesomewm. It is faster and more customizable. Much less buggy, too.
[01:32] <vivid> extropy, as far as i can tell.  yes.  minecraft ships an old version.  if you go to their website and download the package, just swap out the files within your local minecraft install
[01:32] <dibblego> Triclops200: I very strongly disagree
[01:32] <extropy> I don't play in fullscreen my box can't really handle it.
[01:32] <Triclops200> dibblego: That's great.
[01:32] <Triclops200> dibblego: If you enjoy xmonad, stay with it.
[01:32] <vivid> extropy, fullscreen doesnt reliably work in unity anyway
[01:33] <nydel> leogitimate: i have some problems like that, i keep scripts somewhere in $PATH to kill programs that don't end themselves & cause problems. just a few lines, a shebang & "pkill firefox-trunk" or whatever. you can also set a hotkey to execute one of those scripts in keyboard section of settings. so you're all set then?
[01:33] <dibblego> somsip: yeah I have configured it like that before years ago — I do it again
[01:34] <somsip> dibblego: so you do have as solution?
[01:34] <opieng> hi all, why can I not play youtube videos in Ubuntu?
[01:34] <dibblego> somsip: I have a variety of solutions, just trying to find something workable with 12.04
[01:34] <dibblego> i.e. gnome3
[01:34] <leogitimate> nydel:  yes, probably an issue with my conky config.  but it's all good i'm glad that it's not a but that i have no fix for
[01:34] <Triclops200> opieng: Use chrome, it has a flash implementation
[01:35] <somsip> dibblego: on 12.04 here, but from upgrades from a previous version. Again, works fine
[01:35] <MiningMarsh> opieng: chrome specifically, chromium is missing these plugins.
[01:35] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: how do I increase my resolution now
[01:35] <MiningMarsh> opieng: also, make sure the adobe-flash package is installed
[01:36] <nydel> leogitimate: we all run into problems of this nature or similar when working with system-monitoring programs sooner or later :)
[01:36] <opieng> ahhh I see, thanks, theres me updating from 11 to 12.04 LTS thinking that would solve it
[01:36] <riffautae> I just tried installing ubuntu 12.04, I have two drives
[01:36] <riffautae> i selected 'install along side' and it deleted EVERYTHING on the second drive
[01:37] <three18ti> I'm trying to make an UbuntuLiveCD and I've followed these destructions: ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch ) but when I attempt to boot I get the error "E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc or the wrong architecture"
[01:37] <riffautae> it did not ask which drive I wanted to use
[01:37] <riffautae> it just deleted everything
[01:37] <phy1729> I have a number of ubuntu server 12.04 boxes but only one is sending igmp requests to 224.0.0.1. Why would it be sending these requests and can I turn them off?
[01:37] <three18ti> but it IS a debian disk and it IS amd64...
[01:37] <usr13> !flash | opieng
[01:37] <extropy> ah man, if this fixes my problem that would be marvelous, thanks vivid, others
[01:38] <MiningMarsh> opieng: gnash is veeery buggy, stick with flash.
[01:38] <three18ti> anyone have any hints on how to build an Ubuntu Live CD?
[01:38] <Dr_willis> !remaster
[01:39] <Dr_willis> I was thinkign 12.04 changed a lot of thigjns with remastering.. but ive never tried it.
[01:39] <Dr_willis> so any guidea may be incorredt if they are older
[01:39] <bobweaver> one big meta package ?
[01:40] <Heather_> question: I've been using xampp on windows for webdevelopment and recently build a webserver and installed ubuntu on it. I've installed apache2/php5/mysql and confirmed that they work. Where should I put .php files. I've tried var/www/file.php and var/www/htdocs/somefolder/file.php but the website is not displayed in firefox @ http://localhost/somefolder//
[01:40] <three18ti> Dr_willis, that's what I was afraid of...  I've not tried the dell utility, but all the others have been dead ends...
[01:40] <bobweaver> permissions heather ?
[01:40] <opieng> thanks all
[01:41] <bobweaver> Heather_, you can set the name of the host in /etc/hosts
[01:41] <Heather_> okay
[01:42] <Triclops200> Heather_: Is apache working? Does apache have read and execute permissions for the file, and have you tried rebooting?
[01:42] <cowsquad> does anybody know how to access the Mail command reconfigure screen prompt?
[01:42] <bobweaver> like 127.0.0.1       localhost     could also be 127.0.0.1     hostname
[01:42] <bobweaver> you can also change in apache to have many hostnames
[01:43] <bobweaver> but back to the question :
[01:43] <compdoc> cowsquad, you mean:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[01:43] <bobweaver> !permissions
[01:43] <Heather_> thanks
[01:43] <cowsquad> compdoc
[01:44] <cowsquad> what is the package name
[01:44] <compdoc> well, I dont know - I use nullmailer. what do you use?
[01:44] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: tada.. and I'm set
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> tyler_d: sweet
[01:44] <three18ti> so... can we take http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility off the ubottu factoid somehow?  This page is no longer valid.
[01:44] <bobweaver> Heather_, you can change all that stuff in apache sites_enabled
[01:44] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: so far, 45
[01:44] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: cut it in half...
[01:45] <cowsquad> mailx
[01:45] <opieng> anyone know any softwares that can help me with getting used to using the terminal and start building up my knowledge and skills with using the terminal?
[01:45] <cowsquad> or mailutils
[01:45] <bobweaver> opieng, check out gregs guide
[01:45] <tyler_d> ActionParsnip: thanks so much for the recommendation... hopefully the performance reflects it as well
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> !manual | opieng
[01:45] <MiningMarsh> (
[01:45] <noliverh> hello guys...
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> opieng: just try to use the terminal more instead of GUI apps, you'll learn
[01:46] <bobweaver> opieng,  http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/scripting/tutoriallist
[01:46] <noliverh> new in ubuntu server
[01:46] <Heather_> bobweaver okay I'm in that file atm and DocumentRoot is set as /var/www
[01:46] <Triclops200> eval (lamdba () (display "STOP IT"))
[01:46] <Triclops200> )
[01:46] <Heather_> that means that If I put my index.php file in there it should be displayed given the permissions for reading the file are correct?
[01:46] <Triclops200> Heather_: Yeah
[01:47] <bobweaver> Heather_,  you have tried to make folder like  sudo mkdir -p  /var/www/foo     then making a php test file ?
[01:47] <bobweaver> in foo
[01:47] <Heather_> I did try the default index.html and created test.php with arbitrary code and it was displayed in localhost
[01:48] <bobweaver> Heather_,  try making index.php in var/www/foo
[01:48] <Heather_> okay
[01:49] <bobweaver> then call 127.0.0.1/foo/index.php
[01:49] <compdoc> cowsquad, mailutils is just a set of programs to send and test mail. Its not a mail server. You might open software-center and search for mail and see whats installed
[01:49] <Triclops200> Heather_: pastebin the result of `cat /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default`
[01:49] <cowsquad> compoc, okay thank you
[01:51] <opieng> Fantastic Ubuntu manual, but it seems more about the GUI than using the terminal
[01:52] <Heather_> bobweaver it worked with and without index.php in the end.
[01:52] <bobweaver> Heather_,  you made index.php test
[01:52] <Heather_> yes
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> opieng: try doing file maoves and so forth in terminal instead of using nautilus, update your packages in terminal instead of (slow) software centre
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> opieng: stuff like that
[01:53] <Heather_> just need to make my projects index.php to show up aswell.
[01:53] <opieng> ActionParsnip, yes thats exactly the stuff I want to do
[01:53] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 unity ... i have what seems to be a stable build on a new pc build ... i want to install my most common apps ... then mirror the build onto an old hard drive, so i can easily reinstall when i do something stupid that renders the systen useless ... best method ???
[01:54] <adknight87> install through the software sources for that version
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Tex_Nick: if you make a small partition for / then you can make an image and store it
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Tex_Nick: something like 10Gb will be enough.
[01:58] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip : my / partition is currently 93Gb ... maybe i should downsize a bit ?
[01:59] <enriq> ActionParsnip, wonderful I got it booting. Thanks!
[01:59] <Adeeel> hi
[02:00] <Adeeel> what is the file permission means
[02:00] <Adeeel> -rw-r-----
[02:00] <Adeeel> ?
[02:00] <enriq> ActionParsnip, now my 6 y.o. kid can have ubuntu on his first machine
[02:00] <MiningMarsh> Adeeel: read and write for the owner, read for the owners group
[02:00] <adknight87> Adeeel: Means who owns the file read=r write=w
[02:00] <adknight87> x=execute
[02:01] <Adeeel> and
[02:01] <Adeeel> -rw-r--r--
[02:01] <Adeeel> ?
[02:01] <Adeeel> whats the difference in both ?
[02:01] <MiningMarsh> Adeeel: well, that file is the same, but everyone gets read permissions, not just the owners group
[02:02] <Adeeel> oh
[02:02] <Adeeel> so this must be the issue
[02:02] <MiningMarsh> Adeeel: so if a user is in the sudo group, other admins could read the first file, but everyone can read the second file
[02:02] <Adeeel>  i have 2 boxes
[02:02] <pietro10> is there anyting in libav**-53 that is not in libav**-extra-53? just wondering before I go ahead and install the ubuntustudio-audio metapackage. Thanks.
[02:02] <Adeeel> -rw-r--r-- <<--- works fine and logins fine
[02:02] <Adeeel> -rw-r--_-- <<--- not working fine
[02:02] <Adeeel> -rw-r----- <<--- not working fine
[02:03] <Adeeel> -rw-r--r-- is 0755 ?
[02:03] <MiningMarsh> Adeeel: its just a file read issue then
[02:03] <Adeeel> yeah
[02:03] <Adeeel> need to fix it
[02:03] <MiningMarsh> 755 sounds right
[02:03] <Adeeel> and -rw-r----- is ?
[02:03] <Adeeel> 700 ?
[02:03] <MiningMarsh> 750, I think
[02:03] <ReAzem> Hello! I have a backup script named ''backups'' in /etc/cron.daily. Anacron does not run it. I tried to investigate, and ran 'run-parts --test /etc/cron.daily'. My script showed up in the list. So I went and tried to run 'run-parts --verbose /etc/cron.daily' and I got the following output: 'run-parts: failed to exec /etc/cron.daily/backups: No such file or directory'. It should be noted that I can run the
[02:03] <ReAzem>  script with 'bash backups' with no errors. Any ideas?
[02:03] <MiningMarsh> each number is a bitmask
[02:04] <Adeeel> chmod 755 username ?
[02:04] <phy1729> I have a 12.04 box that's sending a packet to 224.0.0.1 every 2 minutes. How do I disable that?
[02:04] <Adeeel> to change it ?
[02:04] <MiningMarsh> ReAzem: is the execute bit set? cron needs that
[02:04] <Adeeel> phy1729
[02:04] <ReAzem> MiningMarsh, it's at 755.
[02:04] <Adeeel> firewall
[02:04] <Adeeel> deny packet from me to 224.0.0.1
[02:04] <phy1729> Adeeel: I'd prefer to apt-get remove the offending process
[02:05] <Adeeel> no idea about that :|
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> phy1729: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1886913
[02:06] <ReAzem> I should add that the following line says : run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/backups exited with return code 1
[02:07] <Adeeel> mindstorm
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> phy1729: how did you find out about the traffic?
[02:07] <Adeeel> MiningMarsh how can i fix it ?
[02:07] <MiningMarsh> ReAzem: did you run run-parts as sudo?
[02:07] <Adeeel> how can i change -rw-r--r--   1 Globe   shelln   982B Nov 19 17:53 .shrc
[02:07] <Adeeel> to -rw-r-----   1 Globe   shelln   982B Nov 19 17:53 .shrc
[02:07] <Adeeel> ?
[02:07] <ReAzem> MiningMarsh, yes
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> Adeeel: sudo chmod 640 .shrc
[02:08] <phy1729> Adeeel: It's showing up in the iptables logs on another host
[02:08] <phy1729> ActionParsnip: ^
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Adeeel: r = 4, w = 2, x = 1
[02:08] <MiningMarsh> Adeel: chmod 640 <file>
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Adeeel: just add together what you want :)
[02:08] <Adeeel> oh
[02:08] <Adeeel> 640
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> Adeeel: yes,  r + w == 4 + 2 == 6
[02:09] <adknight87> how would I make a bash file to run a wine application from a link in a browser with the url as a defined attribute to run with the application
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> adknight87: you could have the link point to file:///usr/bin/scriptname     for example. Not sure but it sounds ok in my head
[02:12] <Adeeel> something surely is messed up
[02:13] <Adeeel> any bsd expert here ?
[02:13] <Adeeel> su: /home/shelln/Bird/.bashrc: Permission denied
[02:14] <Adeeel> but there is no .bashrc file inside /home/shelln/Bird/
[02:14] <Adeeel> :|
[02:15] <adknight87> ActionParsnip: I was wondering if a protocol would be launching the application with the varable of the url to be placed with the run command
[02:16] <GorillaSalsa> is anybody here?
[02:17] <compdoc> who wants to know?
[02:17] <tyler_d> no
[02:18] <MiningMarsh> Adeeel: wait for the singularity...
[02:19] <GorillaSalsa> Is it wrong that I'm infinitely more excited for Elementary to come out than I am for literally anything else right now?
[02:20] <somsip> GorillaSalsa: it's wrong to do it in this channel. Try #elementary or at least #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:20] <GorillaSalsa> WHOOPS okay sorry
[02:24] <DingoYabuki> HEY MOTHER FUCKERS
[02:24] <DingoYabuki> I HAVEA DICK
[02:24] <DingoYabuki> AND A COCK
[02:24] <DingoYabuki> BITCHES
[02:24] <FloodBot1> DingoYabuki: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:24] <DingoYabuki> FUCK YOU
[02:24] <lollko> :D
[02:24] <lollko> solved
[02:24] <gogeta> always
[02:24] <Random832> DingoYabuki: you have both?
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> adknight87: i think you'd be looking at a dynamic page then
[02:25] <cjae> ok so primary system kubuntu 12.04 but I installed ubuntu-desktop, I dont seem to be able to use my sudo passwd when in unity
[02:25] <DingoYabuki> BOTH
[02:25] <DingoYabuki> TWO FUCKING
[02:25] <DingoYabuki> THINGS
[02:25] <FloodBot1> DingoYabuki: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:25] <cjae> so go dp some girls
[02:25] <somsip> !ops
[02:25] <gogeta> the bot will handel him
[02:25] <gogeta> lol
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> i'm sure having 2 things isn't good
[02:25] <somsip> gogeta: the bot kicks for profanity? I thought it just flood-blocked...
[02:26] <gogeta> somsip: fllod enogh times it kicks
[02:26] <gogeta> flood
[02:26] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: yes, but he was exited to have them, thats what is important
[02:26] <somsip> gogeta: ah - I don't watch kick messages. Cheers
[02:27] <almoxarife> poor kid, someone taught him just enough english to get himself banned :)
[02:27] <elky> cjae, we don't need comments like that.
[02:27] <gogeta> almoxarife: lol
[02:28] <Ray2> Ubuntu-10.04...I have multiple o/s installed...I can mount another o/s...but when I open a file the info is the same as the Ubuntu file...Can the file be edited using mount ??
[02:28] <bobweaver> chill all
[02:28] <cjae> my bad....did anyone see my question in all that
[02:29] <bobweaver> like a hot day and a ice cube melting
[02:29] <cjae> ok so primary system kubuntu 12.04 but I installed ubuntu-desktop, I dont seem to be able to use my sudo passwd when in unity
[02:30] <cjae> also how come kdm shows metacity as a login option now but nothing happens when you try it
[02:32] <Dr_willis> Ray2,  what file exactly?
[02:32] <adknight87> ActionParnsnip: Well actually I what "Exec= /Application/to/run/" "$1"<------ the script will take the URL from the link and add it there
[02:32] <bobweaver> some things run with metacity --replace
[02:32] <bobweaver> like fast things
[02:32] <bobweaver> or things on older computers
[02:33] <Ray2> dr_willis Moneydance.deb financial manager
[02:34] <Dr_willis> Ray2,  you mount 'filesystems' not OS's - im not sure what you are doing but i bet you are somehow mounting the wrong filesystem to a location.
[02:35] <Dr_willis> why would you be editing a .deb file anyway?  I think you need to clarify to the channel what you are doing exactly.
[02:35] <cjae> bobweaver: I remember having to do something that when beryl came out
[02:35] <cjae> with that*
[02:35] <gogeta> Dr_willis: burning his system down heh
[02:36] <cornell> Hi, I'm using ubuntu 12.04 and chromium, and I seem to've lost sound in the browser, used to have it, not now.  I can still hear files played in Totem Movie Player.  Any ideas?
[02:37] <bobweaver> flash cornell
[02:37] <bobweaver> ?
[02:37] <gogeta> cornell: unmute your sound
[02:37] <gogeta> lol
[02:37] <bobweaver> gogeta,  chill brother
[02:37] <cornell> Well, something that plays swf files.
[02:37] <bobweaver> or sister
[02:37] <Dr_willis> cornell,  you mean you lost sound in flash videos? I noticed the volume mixers had a seperate slider for fdlash videos for me.. not sure why
[02:37] <bobweaver> cornell,  yeah that is flash
[02:38] <bobweaver> you can try to rip a flash and play in totem to test ?
[02:38] <bobweaver> do you have a script that does that ?
[02:38] <bobweaver> like that uses lsof ?
[02:38] <cornell> Oh, ok, Dr_willis, I'll look into that.  Don't know how to rip youtube videos.
[02:38] <Dr_willis> theres dozens of flash downloader extensions
[02:38] <Ray2> Dr-Willis.. I mount Mageia2 and get the file system with the header reading Mageia2  then open /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance but the file is the same as Ubuntu's file...I want to make entry in that program from Ubuntu
[02:38] <bobweaver> cornell,  I have a script if you like it is perl
[02:39] <cornell> k, bobweaver.  Do I need to install something to run perl?
[02:39] <Dr_willis> Ray2,  where did you mount the filesystem Mageia2 to?
[02:39] <g00053> I can't figure out which pid I want to kill via the "top" command  but I can pick out the window. isn't there a command to do it with a mous click ?
[02:39] <bobweaver> nope cornwall all you do is save script and make executable
[02:40] <bobweaver> g00053,  ps aux | grep  <app name >
[02:40] <Dr_willis>  Ray2  /opt/whatever would be the opt directory on the OS you booted...    you are using a full path
[02:40] <Dr_willis> g00053,  xkill
[02:40] <cornell> Dr_willis: How to get to the mixer?
[02:40] <gene-laptop> So i installed 12.10 (3.5.0-17) 64 bit ubuntu. broadcom wifi worked. let the system update itself via desktop app, rebooted. wifi no longer works. the "wl" module no longer exists. trying to install bcmwl-kernel-sources says i don't have the kernel-sources. I installed linux-sources-3.5.0 and linux-headers-3.5.0-18
[02:40] <g00053> Dr_willis, tanks!
[02:40] <Dr_willis> cornell,  i use that pavucontrol tool
[02:41] <bobweaver> cornell,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376295/
[02:41] <Dr_willis> g00053,  carefull with xkill, right click to cancle the killing
[02:41] <gene-laptop> is it pretty common for incredibly minor version upgrades to break ubuntu in this fashion? how do i fix this?
[02:41] <Devilinside> how to cntrol the dsl connection by commandline??
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> gene-laptop: are there bugs reported?
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Devilinside: control in what way?
[02:42] <Ray2> Dr_Willis...I mounted it in Ubuntu using places>Mageia2
[02:42] <Devilinside> i mean connect to dsl connection or create one.
[02:42] <Dr_willis> Ray2,  and what path are you using to access the files on Mageia2?
[02:42] <cornell> bobweaver: the paste seems to be a single word: ripper
[02:42] <bobweaver> woops
[02:42] <bobweaver> try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376300/
[02:43] <newroad> howdy peoples. I'm having an issue with my optimus laptop and bumblebee on ubuntu. If I do optirun, I'm getting this error: [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: XORG NVIDIA(0): Failed to assign any connected display devices to X screen 0
[02:43] <newroad> I found a whole support thread about it here, but still no dice: https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/issues/187
[02:43] <deadlyquirk> I'm having some trouble getting 12.10 to run on my notebook. When I boot the livedisk, I am taken to a login page asking for a username and password. I have been googling but I can't find anything about this.
[02:43] <Ray2> DR-Willis..Once I mount Mageia then I get the window with /opt etc
[02:43] <bobweaver> cornell,  I can make .deb if you like I think I made before
[02:44] <Devilinside> and i have installed ubuntu by wubi, how do i get to change the root passwd, if i ever forgrt it??
[02:44] <Dr_willis> Ray2,  thats your problem then... its NOT going to be in /opt/whatever   it will be in /media/somthing
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> deadlyquirk: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in there and run:  passwd ubuntu     you can then set the password and press CTRL+ALT+F7 and log in as expected
[02:44] <bobweaver> cornell, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958405
[02:44] <Ray2> Dr_Willis okay thanks
[02:44] <cornell> bobweaver: it's a perl script, just text, right?
[02:45] <bobweaver> there is deb of ripper with stupid gui that I should write in c++
[02:45] <deadlyquirk> ActionParsnip: When I go the TTY1 I am not even getting a login prompt. I am seeing a message that says "authentication error"
[02:45] <bobweaver> correct it is just text
[02:45] <bobweaver> like are scripting langs
[02:46] <bobweaver> there is some regex and vars and case and functions in there also but in the end it is not assembly code
[02:46] <bobweaver> lol case and functions I am funny sometimes cornell  that is program humor not you it is me :)
[02:47] <bobweaver> cornell,  there is deb in link that I gave you so you do not have to make script run deb comes with gui
[02:47] <cornell> k
[02:47] <bobweaver> but it is for 64 bit
[02:47] <bobweaver> ir 32
[02:47] <bobweaver> s| ir | or
[02:49] <bobweaver> that is something that I do not like about packaging for debian all any 64 i386 ect , that and there is no option in stanza to make Removes: but there is Depends :/
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> deadlyquirk: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[02:51] <newroad> howdy peoples. I'm having an issue with my optimus laptop and bumblebee on ubuntu. If I do optirun, I'm getting this error: [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: XORG NVIDIA(0): Failed to assign any connected display devices to X screen 0
[02:51] <newroad> I found a whole support thread about it here, but still no dice: https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/issues/187
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> newroad: optimus is a massive headache in linux
[02:52] <bobweaver> newroad, cuda ?
[02:52] <newroad> no kidding :)
[02:52] <bobweaver> there is cuda channel
[02:52] <newroad> cuda?
[02:52] <g00053> guys steam has managed to fill up my /home partition and I'd like to resize it but I'm not sure what to use since it's LVM
[02:53] <newroad> i also tried in #bumblebee
[02:53] <newroad> is there another?
[02:53] <bobweaver> newroad,  you installed xswat ppa ?
[02:53] <newroad> yep, nvidia-current 304.64, the one for steam
[02:54] <genewitch> so ubuntu is now hard locked
[02:54] <bobweaver> Is that the troubles?  OH you want the bumble bee for steam
[02:54] <newroad> and bumblebee 3.0.1
[02:54] <bobweaver> newroad,  and sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia    no workie ?
[02:54] <genewitch> it dropped my secondary wifi connection and networkmanager is taking 100%CPU and i cannot reboot or shut down
[02:54] <newroad> lemme try that
[02:54] <genewitch> pretty dope upgrade!
[02:54] <bobweaver> genewitch,  you can file bug for us to see more about it ?
[02:55] <newroad> already got that bob
[02:55] <genewitch> bobweaver: i don't even know where to start
[02:55] <newroad> problem is, i cant even do glxgears
[02:55] <bobweaver> you have tried to press ctrl+alt+f1 and  login and sudo reboot ?
[02:55] <bobweaver> newroad,  can you run a couple things for me ?
[02:55] <genewitch> bobweaver: yeah sudo just hangs
[02:56] <genewitch> shutdown just hangs
[02:56] <newroad> optirun glxgears gives that error: r
[02:56] <genewitch> reboot just hangs
[02:56] <newroad> [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: XORG NVIDIA(0): Failed to assign any connected display devices to X screen 0
[02:56] <newroad> yep, gladly
[02:56] <bobweaver> newroad,  what about this ?    /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[02:56] <bobweaver> what do you get pastebin plz
[02:56] <bobweaver> pastebin | newroad
[02:56] <newroad> well, im using cinnamon
[02:56] <bobweaver> !pastebin | newroad
[02:56] <newroad> will that work?
[02:56] <bobweaver> er
[02:57] <bobweaver> !mint
[02:57] <newroad> no, im on ubuntu with cinnamon
[02:57] <bobweaver> Oh
[02:57] <noliverh> !ubuntu-server
[02:57] <bobweaver> you can not get steam ?
[02:57] <bobweaver> going ?
[02:57] <newroad> i can't even get glxgears going
[02:57] <bobweaver> you have tried the channel #ubuntu-valve
[02:57] <bobweaver> er
[02:58] <genewitch> the report a bug series of pages on ubuntu.com are just a loop
[02:58] <xangua> newroad: cinnamon is not supported anyways
[02:58] <genewitch> i assume that's by design
[02:58] <newroad> this error is clearly an error with my bumblebee: [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: XORG NVIDIA(0): Failed to assign any connected display devices to X screen 0
[02:58] <JoshuaLin>  /join #inediblepie
[02:58] <bobweaver> ok I am not gamer at all in fact want beta key ?  j/k anyhow try asking the great perople @ #ubuntu-valve
[02:59] <newroad> *sigh* this is not related to steam or cinnamon..
[02:59] <bobweaver> I hate nvidia that is 60 % of the questions here ?
[02:59] <ben64-droidy> Can I use my laptop as a wireless repeater?
[02:59] <bobweaver> Oh sorry newroad  I guess that I miss read
[03:00] <genewitch> so how do i report the bug that the first upgrade 12.10 ran broke my wifi?
[03:00] <almoxarife> ben64-droidy: what is a wireless repeater?
[03:00] <genewitch> do i file that under kernel, broadcom
[03:00] <Marius80> hey
[03:00] <bobweaver> newroad, all I can help with is links here are some http://wiki.Bumblebee-Project.org/Reporting-Issues      https://launchpad.net/~bumblebee/+archive/stable
[03:01] <ben64-droidy> almoxarife - repeats wireless signal
[03:01] <Marius80> could anyone tell me why MySQL is sooooo slow on Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[03:01] <antonio_> For some reason the mouse on my gf's desktop that has 10.04 will randomly stop working.  Is there any kind of debugging program I can use or a terminal command to find out whats going on?
[03:01] <Marius80> Actually  MySQL is not slow,  it's  crippling!!
[03:01] <cornell> Found the mixer
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> Marius80: are there bugs reported?
[03:01] <bobweaver> antonio_, you can gather all devices info from /dev/*
[03:02] <cornell> There's an entry for ALSA plug-in [chromium-browser].  It's at 100%
[03:02] <bobweaver> Marius80, What ActionParsnip  said
[03:02] <Marius80> ActionParsnip, yes,  one bug with ext4 filesystem,  already tried the workaround,  but did not work
[03:02] <bobweaver> cornell,  what do you mean 100% ?
[03:02] <Marius80> the workaround is  barrier=0  in /etc/fstab
[03:02] <cornell> Well, full on. loudest
[03:02] <antonio_> bobweaver: it outputs /dev/audio: command not found
[03:02] <Marius80> but as I said,  nothing happened
[03:02] <Marius80> maybe it's a different bug
[03:03] <bobweaver> Marius80,  you can file bug ?
[03:03] <bobweaver> !bug
[03:03] <Marius80> a  Joomla  installation on my localhost took 14 minutes
[03:03] <cornell> ANd I have sound
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> Marius80: Tried a different filesystem if ext4 is a known issue causer?
[03:03] <Marius80> bobweaver, maybe it's a well-known bug,  so that's why I came here before filing the bug
[03:03] <bobweaver> er ok Marius80  please file bug and tell us in bug what happens then we do not need to flood the irc chat
[03:04] <Marius80> ActionParsnip, not yet,  I would need to set up the system from new
[03:04] <cornell> Ok... that's interesting, bobweaver.  The ALSA etc. entry... disappeared.
[03:04] <somsip> Marius80: working fine here on 12.04. On ext4 too
[03:04] <ben64-droidy> Can I use my laptop as a wireless repeater?
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> Marius80: or is it haveing the databases on Ext4 causing the issue? Then you can make a partition to store the data
[03:04] <bobweaver> Marius80,  that is why ubuntu-bug brings to page that asks what you are filing and looks to see if already filed
[03:04] <genewitch> So is the answer to my problem "reinstall ubuntu and don't let it upgrade"?
[03:04] <genewitch> roll back to 12.04?
[03:05] <Marius80> k I will file it
[03:05] <Marius80> thank you so far
[03:05] <bobweaver> antonio_, looking up /drv maping
[03:05] <dougbb> Marius80: have you tried mariadb?
[03:05] <bobweaver> mapping * \
[03:05] <antonio_> thanks
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: you can hold shift at boot and select the old kernel to boot
[03:06] <dougbb> Marius80: in the past, when I've been forced to use mysql, I've found mariadb to be an excellent replacement
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: you may be able to humour the installer with a symlink :)
[03:06] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: hmm
[03:06] <Marius80> dougbb, will applications designed to run with MySQL automatically support MariaDB even if not mentioned by the installer?
[03:07] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: holding down shut does nothing
[03:07] <dougbb> yes ... in my experience, which is not universal of course
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: its a bit of a hack but worth a try
[03:07] <almoxarife> ben64-droidy: sure, run your wifi promiscuous  with wireshark, take the logged file and and send it out via wifi to the connection of your choice
[03:07] <Marius80> thank you dougbb
[03:08] <ben64-droidy> almoxarife - that doesn't sound possible
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: if you run:  cd /usr/src; ls  you will see the header folders.
[03:08] <dougbb> Marius80: worth a shot anyway
[03:08] <Marius80> dougbb, MariaDB is not in the repository,  is it?
[03:08] <TheLordOfTime> Marius80, i'd listen to dependencies as stated in a given software, and not assume other things'll work with it.
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: if you run:  umame -r   you will see the kernel version you are booted to (be sure this is the troublesome kernel)
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: you can then make a symlink in that folde
[03:08] <almoxarife> ben64-droidy: thats the easy part
[03:08] <nencinip> dual Head & different monitori resolution can be avaiable  with Radeon9200 (rv280?) and radeon dirver ?
[03:08] <deadlyquirk> ActionParsnip: Just to be sure I reran md5sum and it matches. I tried putting it on a fresh usb stick and its still throwing errors.
[03:09] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: make a symlink to what
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: so that the folder for the kernel headers is present, when really its just a link to the previous kernel's headers
[03:09] <deadlyquirk> It is a UEFI machine. Should I be using another version of the ISO instead of ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> deadlyquirk: have you tested your RAM using memtest from the USB stick?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: may make a shaky driver but it may just be dumb enough to work
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: plus it's easy to roll back :)
[03:11] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: how do i increase the grub delay so i can just switch kernels on boot?
[03:11] <genewitch> i am trying the symlinks
[03:11] <deadlyquirk> ActionParsnip: Ram is good. It boots and runs Fedora 17 as well as Windows.
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> deadlyquirk: its worth testing, just to be sure
[03:11] <D_Russ> hello
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> deadlyquirk: also try a different usb port
[03:12] <bobweaver> antonio_, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBsT1aW5K44
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: you set the timout in /etc/default/grub    you will need to run:  sudo update-grub   after changing
[03:12] <adknight87> Actionparsnip: I have a bash file with exec wine "Application" "%@", I have mimeapps.list with the added field x-scheme-handler/imvu=IMVU.desktop. The IMVU.desktop has Exec=linktothescript. <----- Doesn't work
[03:12] <D_Russ> i cant for the life of me firgure out how to get my printer to work again. it used to work fine, then ubuntu did an update and now it just doesnt work..anyone know how to get my canon printer to work?
[03:12] <adknight87> The script works in terminal with the added link
[03:12] <D_Russ> 12.04
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> adknight87: no idea there dude, not something I've done
[03:13] <adknight87> poop
[03:13] <bobweaver> antonio_, wrong person wrong channel
[03:13] <tyler_d> what are you doing adknight87?
[03:13] <antonio_> haha
[03:13] <bobweaver> wash your hands adknight87
[03:14] <bobweaver> But antonio_  you still might like to watch that ;)
[03:14] <bobweaver> to see if binary is reading when mouse is not working
[03:15] <tyler_d> why not run a watch process on the input command?
[03:15] <D_Russ> canon printer help needed here..anyone familiar?
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> D_Russ: what is the issue
[03:15] <D_Russ> it dont work
[03:15] <D_Russ> lol
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> D_Russ: did you grab the drivers from the Canon Europe site?
[03:15] <D_Russ> actionparsnip: does not print anymore after an update
[03:15] <cornell> Well, thanks bobweaver and dr_willis
[03:16] <bobweaver> np cornell, is flash now running with sound ?
[03:16] <D_Russ> actionparsnip: is this something new, there were no driver for it before
[03:16] <bobweaver> did you install
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> D_Russ: what model is the pronter?
[03:16] <bobweaver> !info ubuntu-restickted-extras
[03:16] <Thisguy_> Hey. My keyboard seems to be whacked out! First my ctrl+shift+u stopped working, but now my Caps Lock key is defying my settings and working properly, even though I disabled it. Help me, or point me somewhere where I can get help?
[03:16] <bobweaver> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:16] <D_Russ> actionparsnip: mx330
[03:16] <cornell> Yes, I found the mixer... and the settings, and I saw the ALSA volume for chromium...
[03:16] <D_Russ> pixma mx330
[03:17] <cornell> Then I had sound again, but ALSA disappeared.
[03:17] <genewitch> Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed
[03:17] <bobweaver> O o
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> D_Russ: http://www.canon-europe.com/Support/Consumer_Products/products/Fax__Multifunctionals/InkJet/PIXMA_MX_series/PIXMA_MX330.aspx?type=download&page=1
[03:17] <THEJOLLYGRIMREAP> seen ezmobius?
[03:17] <cornell> Anyway... I switched things off and back on... I guess I tickled something.
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> D_Russ: right there, on the canon europe site
[03:17] <cornell> Well, gotta go.
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> D_Russ: nothing new
[03:17] <THEJOLLYGRIMREAP> kthx?
[03:18] <D_Russ> actionparsnip: thanks i will try that.
[03:18] <adknight87> I'm making a link launch a application with that url
[03:18] <almoxarife> cornell: the chrome alsa plugin will come and go with chrome,
[03:18] <Chipzzz> does anybody know how I can rename my workspaces on a precise unity desktop?
[03:18] <doomlord> ubuntu nexus 7, whats it like?
[03:20] <doomlord> does it have tweaks for touchscreen such as muti-finger gestures for moving windows/desktops;
[03:20] <bobweaver> I have never ever ever had issue with chrome nor chriomium  ever with soun dafter making sure that I installed them correctly . but not to say that it dont happen maybe that is more of a hardware thing As I tend to make sure that all parts and computers that I by are opensource driver ready
[03:20] <kangarooo> Hello! Where in launchpad bug files i can find some computer id and hardware info for computer ive lost? I found in bug report LSPCI but where is info about HDD size? I need to find this old info to prove witch is my comp. One guy took mine.
[03:20] <dougbb> someone rooted a nexus 7 to put ubuntu on it?
[03:20] <bobweaver> dooml0rd,  libutouch is GREAT !
[03:20] <bobweaver> No dougbb  we just made iso and lots of armel woork
[03:20] <doomlord> i'm just watching a youtube video on it;
[03:20] <Chipzzz> kangarooo: df -h
[03:21] <Heather_> question: Why does the defualt 000-default apache file change when I change and save the copy of that file?
[03:21] <doomlord> i'm fairly tempted by a nexus 7 - i dont have an android tablet as yet - but if it would run ubuntu i would be a *lot* more tempted
[03:21] <bobweaver> there is rooted if you want to call it that in the install thingy well that is hard
[03:21] <bobweaver> Nexus 7 is AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!
[03:22] <bobweaver> go for it dooml0rd nothing but good things to say on this end
[03:22] <bobweaver> there is a iso for it also
[03:22] <kangarooo> Chipzzz: ok that ill do when ill test that comp but where in LP i can check to compare comp ID and mother board and HDD manufacturer and all its info? I want to give this info to police couse one huy took my comp.
[03:22] <bobweaver> orga made it ?
[03:22] <dougbb> I'm thinking of getting a nexus 7 if I can find a good enough black friday deal
[03:22] <doomlord> can you "dual boot" android/ubuntu
[03:23] <bobweaver> dougbb,  and doomlord  there are manything that the armel team and linaro are workingon
[03:23] <almoxarife> doomlord: its already been done
[03:23] <bobweaver> working on *
[03:23] <kangarooo> I want to find in LP my old comp ID info. Where is it? In lspci file isnt all info.
[03:23] <doomlord> having said that, i think i would really like ubuntu permanently
[03:23] <bobweaver> dooml0rd,  there are some issues and a bug testing sqad going on
[03:23] <iamzim> Linux Action Show - Ubuntu on Nexus 7 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMLNyTG49_w&feature=g-all-u
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> D_Russ: I suggest you remove the printer you have setup, then power off the printer iteself. You don't need the installer script, just install the debs in the packages folder
[03:24] <bobweaver> if you would like there are many many people that where working with it at UDS and also there is wikis for it also I 100% recommend it over any tablet
[03:24] <bobweaver> so cool
[03:24] <doomlord> i think a desktop grid would work well on a tablet :)
[03:24] <D_Russ> ok
[03:24] <arthur_> hey guys, is there a way to disable the keyring thing on ubuntu no one else uses this computer and the whole startup/boot up process is getting annoying
[03:25] <bobweaver> but there is other tablets that can run off metacity also and also 10 ft interfaces are great dooml0rd  I am making one want to see ?
[03:25] <D_Russ> actionparsnip: it shows already installed
[03:25] <D_Russ> i am reinstalling
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> doomlord: I hate that grid thing. It's one of the first things I kill off
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> D_Russ: cool
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> arthur_: one way is a blank password (not too secure)
[03:25] <D_Russ> actionparsnip: is a restart in order?
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> D_Russ: once you reboot, relogin and power on the printer and set it up again
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> D_Russ: i would :)
[03:26] <doomlord> does "globalmenu"work ok on a touchscreen? like pulldown gestures from the top edge of the screen ? (i think you'd want the menu displayed permanently instead of being cursor-activate)
[03:26] <bobweaver> dooml0rd,  check it out brother https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pER9B5Jo5dI
[03:26] <D_Russ> thanks
[03:27] <arthur_> ActionParsnip, doesn't really matter to me if it's 'secure' or not. but using a blank password would mean that I won't get that prompt anymore? i mean if I turn on my computer and walk away get  back then empathy will be fully logged in too?>
[03:27] <bobweaver> what that is not the right link ;)
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> arthur_: then set a blank password and it won't bother you :)
[03:27] <doomlord> i think i saw asome video with 3-finger drag moving windows around withtout needing to aim at the titlebar
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> arthur_: yes it won't prompt you
[03:28] <arthur_> thanks!
[03:28] <bobweaver> lol sorry dooml0rd  here is a link of unity 3d running on panda board with hacked up code
[03:28] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcepB1E1lX0
[03:28] <smj> Beep doesn't produce any sound when it's run :/ How do I enable PC speaker or Intel HDA emulation?
[03:29] <doomlord> What appeals about the nexus 7 is pocketability - i can imagine always carrying it in a jacket pocket
[03:29] <joshtau> anyone run across 146.831065] hid-multitouch 0003:1B96:0F00.0009: usb_submit_urb(ctrl) failed: on a multitouch screen (ubuntu 12.10, sony vaio 11)
[03:29] <arthur_> one other thing. just installed the restricted drivers. how do I get back to the regular drivers? just deactivate the restricted on in "Additional Drivers"?
[03:29] <doomlord> so to have a "real" os like ubuntu there would be awesome :)
[03:29] <joshtau> doomlord: customised roms for the nexus 7 make it an actual tablet compared to the stock os
[03:29] <bobweaver> day one dooml0rd  day two ;)
[03:30] <kylemccool_> s
[03:30] <joshtau> running paranoid android on the nexus 7 is the closest to perfection for a 7" tablet, and is actually usable by everyone and not just developers/fantatics :P
[03:30] <bobweaver> dooml0rd,  what about things like the atrix 2 ?  and other things like that eff the desktop all together  there is the all in one with system 76 now but tyat is off topic sorry al
[03:31] <doomlord> nexus 7 is complementary to my current gadgets
[03:31] <genewitch> so. the upgrade broke ALL wireless, not just the onboard
[03:31] <genewitch> i can get a connection for a minute, but then it stops working and keeps asking for the wifi password over and over
[03:32] <dougbb> genewitch: have you tried editing the wireless config?
[03:32] <genewitch> I switched to the old kernel 3.5.0-17 on boot and the wl module isn't in that modules directly
[03:32] <genewitch> dougbb: if i wanted to edit files i'd be in #gentoo
[03:32] <dougbb> I didn't say files
[03:32] <dougbb> and don't be an ass
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: which kernel has the wl module?
[03:33] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: neither, now
[03:33] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: the update removed the package with the module i guess
[03:33] <bobweaver> genewitch,  wait a second can we see       lspci -vnn | grep 14e4          then pastebin it and the bot will tell uou more
[03:33] <genewitch> and i can't rebuild the ,mmodule
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: then I would remove then re-add the driver
[03:33] <bobweaver> !pastebin |  genewitch
[03:34] <doomlord> i dont like windows8 but i think some of MS's ideas are interesting for a tablet ui.. the live tiles make sense
[03:34] <joshtau> windows 8  for a tablet is so silly
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: use jockey
[03:35] <bobweaver> +1 ActionParsnip
[03:35] <genewitch> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376351/
[03:36] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: i can remove it but i can't sucessfully reinstall it
[03:36] <bobweaver> but if jockey is not reading the card number but the other number ()()* um... like lspci and lspci -vnn show different things that is what I have seen alot of in Ubuntu that esp jockey that it is not reading it right
[03:36] <almoxarife> win8 tablet seems like a glorified android
[03:36] <doomlord> their screen-edge gesture ideas are ok too - i think its good to have the whole screen available
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: is the system a laptop?
[03:36] <bobweaver> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[03:37] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: yes
[03:37] <bobweaver> dooml0rd,  think about metacity and unity-qt
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: then use a wired connection and get sorted, may help
[03:37]  * bobweaver mouth waters 
[03:37] <doomlord> IMO win8 RT is a slight of hand. they want people to buy it thinking its a true "computer" OS, because of the windows name, when  infact its cutdown
[03:37] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: get sorted?
[03:37] <IdleOne> !ot
[03:37] <genewitch> it is on wired right now
[03:37] <bobweaver> fix *
[03:37] <almoxarife> unity-qt? qtrazor?
[03:38] <genewitch> wired works, just the broadcom and the realtek cards stopped working on reboot. what is jockey
[03:38] <bobweaver> almoxarife,  sorry that is what it was called in the start when it was QT
[03:38] <kylemccool> sup
[03:38] <bobweaver> genewitch, additional drivers it is also called
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | grep bcmwl
[03:38] <almoxarife> genewitch: check something, is linux-kernel-headers installed?
[03:39] <bobweaver> it looks for proprietary things using scripts  genewitch
[03:39] <Butcho> genewitch: jockey-text -l
[03:39] <genewitch> almoxarife: i think so
[03:39] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: ii bcmwl-kernel-source and a bunch of other stuff
[03:40] <kylemccool> K
[03:40] <arthur_> just installed the restricted drivers. how do I get back to the regular drivers? just deactivate the restricted on in "Additional Drivers"?
[03:40] <bobweaver> genewitch,  if you will tell us the card # then bang we can really help you
[03:40] <Butcho> genewitch: make sure linux-source and linux-headers-* is installed
[03:41] <Butcho> that was my problem with the nvidia driver
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: do you also have b43-fwcutter installed?
[03:41] <genewitch> Butcho: they're installed
[03:41] <genewitch> bobweaver: i pastebin that info
[03:41] <genewitch> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376351/
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: can you also pastebin the output of:  dpkg -l | egrep 'bcmwl|b43-fwcutter'
[03:42] <bobweaver> genewitch,  14e4:4727  you see that ?
[03:42] <bobweaver> you can match that up with the drivers page if you like to ?
[03:43] <genewitch> yes that said to install bcmwl-kernel-source
[03:43] <bobweaver> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported devices
[03:43] <genewitch> bcmwl-kernel-source installs, but doesn't do anything, it says: Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed
[03:44] <bobweaver> genewitch,  paste what ActionParsnip  asked plz
[03:44] <bobweaver> pastebin it plz
[03:44] <bobweaver> that is
[03:44] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: the one on the 12.10 amd64 liveCD installer. 3.5.0-17
[03:45] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: but after update, that module is no longer on the system
[03:45] <bobweaver> ***      ActionParsnip> genewitch: can you also pastebin the output of:  dpkg -l | egrep 'bcmwl|b43-fwcutter'       ***
[03:45] <genewitch> oh
[03:45] <genewitch> i didn't see that
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: thanks
[03:46] <usr13> genewitch: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:46] <D_Russ> actionparsnip: no luck
[03:46] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: yeah that also doesn't work, usr13
[03:46] <genewitch> oops
[03:47] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376367/
[03:47] <genewitch> usr13: says dpkg-dev is needed but is not going to be installed
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: sudo apt-get --purge remove bcmwl-kernel-source; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source b43-fwcutter
[03:49] <genewitch> ok
[03:49] <praveenmarkandu> hi need some help with MTP devices
[03:49] <praveenmarkandu> not everyones favourite topic i bet
[03:50] <genewitch> i'm more concrened that everything i do in apt-get install says required pacakges have not yet nbeen created or been moved out of Incoming
[03:50] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  this - > is going to be nice to watch to see if it is wl or b43
[03:50] <praveenmarkandu> anyway, in ubuntu 12.04, i could get to the devvice via the ~/.gvfs path
[03:50] <praveenmarkandu> but now in ubuntu 12.10 how do i do that?
[03:50] <praveenmarkandu> i can only access it via nautilus
[03:50] <bobweaver> errr  proprietary hardware
[03:51] <genewitch> bobweaver: bcma, wl
[03:51] <genewitch> bobweaver: i could have told you that
[03:51] <praveenmarkandu> and it is some weird path name like gphoto://[usb:002,002]/
[03:51] <genewitch> lspci -k when i first booted ubuntu up
[03:51] <arthur_> just installed the restricted drivers. how do I get back to the regular drivers? just deactivate the restricted on in "Additional Drivers"?
[03:52] <bobweaver> genewitch,  yeah the broadcom-sta-* :)
[03:52] <genewitch> so why am i not installing that package
[03:53] <bobweaver> IDK
[03:53] <bobweaver> is it installed genewitch  ?  lsmod | grep wl
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: did the symlink not work?
[03:53] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: results of your command line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376381/
[03:54] <genewitch> mind you, i already did all of this before coming in here
[03:54] <genewitch> but not pastebin, so at least it's consistently broken
[03:54] <bobweaver> genewitch,  plz do this  sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:54] <bobweaver> then
[03:54] <genewitch> bobweaver: I have that installed.
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: what is the output of:  uname -a
[03:55] <bobweaver> dpkg-query  -l | grep  broad*
[03:55] <genewitch> Linux genewitch-700Z3A-700Z4A-700Z5A-700Z5B 3.5.0-18-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 19 10:26:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:55] <bobweaver> isitwl=$(dpkg-query  -l | grep  broad*) && echo $isitwl | pastebinit
[03:55] <bobweaver> genewitch,  ^^
[03:56] <genewitch> bobweaver: there's nothing in the output about broadcom
[03:56] <bobweaver> then it is not installed
[03:56] <bobweaver> so is b43 ?
[03:56] <genewitch> I KNOW.
[03:56] <genewitch> NO
[03:57] <genewitch> lspci -k showed bcma, wl for the broadcom4313 chip when i first booted
[03:57] <bobweaver> then install the 2 pakages
[03:57] <genewitch> what two
[03:57] <bobweaver> packages
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl brcmfmac brcmsmac bcma; sudo modprobe wl
[03:57] <bobweaver> no no no you have to look at the card **number **
[03:57] <genewitch> 4313
[03:57] <bobweaver> nope
[03:57] <genewitch> which can use STA or bcmwl
[03:57] <deadlyquirk> is there a large difference between the iso for 12.4 and the one for 12.4.1?
[03:57] <bobweaver> lspci -vnn | grep 14e4
[03:57] <bobweaver> what is in red ?
[03:58] <genewitch> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376351/
[03:58] <genewitch> 4727
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> deadlyquirk: later packages, requiring less updates after the initial install
[03:58] <bobweaver> good now look at chart
[03:58] <bobweaver> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported devices
[03:58] <bobweaver> 14e4:4727     no (WIP)    BCM4313     b/g/n       LCN (r1)    wl/brcm80211
[03:59] <genewitch> bobweaver: funny, because it worked both with the installer and after i rebooted
[03:59] <deadlyquirk> ActionParsnip: I'll give it a shot then. I need to stop downloading stuff like this at home. My net connection is too slow...
[03:59] <genewitch> bobweaver: then when i did apt-get update && apt-get upgrade it stopped working
[03:59] <bobweaver> so to get the right one according to the page that makes mods you need to install these things I will list off 1 sec
[04:00] <genewitch> Furthermore, this wifi card works perfectly in gentoo. I can swithc it out for any number of other wifi cards (intel, ralink, etc) but the realtek USB card i have is ALSO freaking out.
[04:00] <genewitch> So i'm not willing to open the laptop up again on a whim.
[04:00] <bobweaver> genewitch,   sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-{source,dkms,common}
[04:00] <genewitch> ok
[04:00] <bobweaver> god for gentoo
[04:01] <bobweaver> good *
[04:01] <bobweaver> lol
[04:01] <bobweaver> use gentoo if you like I mean use what you like and want
[04:01] <bobweaver> ralink maybe firmware ?
[04:01] <genewitch> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376391/
[04:02] <genewitch> bobweaver: so that's also a no go
[04:02] <genewitch> so am i reinstalling?
[04:02] <noliverh> about the wireless pci thing... my netgear v3 is not working in my ubuntu
[04:02] <genewitch> and just not letting ubuntu upgrade itself?
[04:02] <noliverh> why is that?
[04:02] <bobweaver> apt-cache show broadcom-sta-common
[04:02] <bobweaver> genewitch,  ^^
[04:03] <genewitch> yes, screenfuls of stuff
[04:04] <adknight87> Man I can't figure this out. I can't get the link to become a part of a scripts exec
[04:04] <bobweaver> genewitch,  here break it down
[04:04] <bobweaver>  apt-cache show broadcom-sta-common | awk '/Filename:/,/Size:/
[04:04] <bobweaver> woops
[04:04] <bobweaver>  apt-cache show broadcom-sta-common | awk '/Filename:/,/Size:/'
[04:04] <bobweaver> much better
[04:06] <bobweaver> or if you like to break down more
[04:06] <bobweaver> apt-cache show broadcom-sta-common | awk '/Filename:/,/Size:/ {print$2}'| head -n 1
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> noliverh: what wifi chip does it use?
[04:06] <genewitch> bobweaver: so i got sta-{source,common,} installed, but dkms fails with the same error that bcmwl-kernel-source did
[04:06] <bobweaver> ahh what is kernel # ?
[04:06] <bobweaver> uname -r
[04:06] <genewitch> 3.5.0-18
[04:06] <genewitch> 3.5.0-18-generic
[04:06] <bobweaver> headers are installed ?
[04:06] <bobweaver> genewitch,  ^^
[04:06] <genewitch> yes. should i purge them, bobweaver
[04:07] <bobweaver> yeah purge and re-install headers and then re-start computer (better then re-build kernel to fix bug) cough cough gentoo
[04:09] <bobweaver> genewitch,  you can also add mods that are not added to kernel 'sudo modprobe <name of mod>'
[04:09] <genewitch> bobweaver: i know that, but wl doesn't exist
[04:09] <genewitch> bobweaver: also, did the purge remove and reboot, still same error
[04:10] <genewitch> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376401/
[04:10] <chubz> if i upgrade my ubuntu from 12.04 to 12.10 will my ssh key i generated change?
[04:10] <genewitch> chubz: for sshd or your RSA/DSA key
[04:10] <bobweaver> genewitch,  Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed.
[04:10] <genewitch> i.e. the .pem file
[04:11] <genewitch> bobweaver: yeah, that's the error that i came in here to fix
[04:11] <genewitch> oh so many hours ago
[04:11] <genewitch> okay like 2 but still
[04:11] <chubz> genewitch: wait... so if i upgrade the ssh key i generated will be gone? i need my key cause its tied to some github repos.
[04:11] <bobweaver> genewitch,  what are you doing with kernel ?
[04:11] <bobweaver> genewitch,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/89542/how-to-build-the-mainline-kernel-source-package
[04:11] <chubz> genewitch: didn't really understand your response
[04:12] <genewitch> chubz: if you upgrade you won't lose your private key, it's in ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[04:12] <genewitch> chubz: or another file ending in .pem in that folder.
[04:12] <genewitch> bobweaver: i'm not doing anythign with the kernel, the apt-get upgrade just update it and broke this
[04:13] <genewitch> bobweaver: once again, if i am going to be compiling a kernel, why am i using ubuntu. A valid answer to my question would be "reinstall and don't let it upgrade"
[04:13] <chubz> how do i even upgrade my ubuntu? i'm on 12.04 right now. shouldn't i be able to update through update manager? it doesn't show up for me o.o
[04:13] <bobweaver> genewitch,  upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 ?
[04:13] <genewitch> chubz: i do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> chubz: your OS is told to only look for LTS releases
[04:14] <bobweaver> like that type of upgrade or jsut a sudo at-get upgrade
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> chubz: so you need to tell it not to and it will see quantal
[04:14] <bobweaver> apt*
[04:14] <genewitch> bobweaver: no, just let the stupid package manager update 124 packages after i first booted up after installing. Literally downloaded all of them over WIFI. after reboot, WIFI no longer worked.
[04:14] <genewitch> this was 3 hours ago.
[04:15] <bobweaver> ahh
[04:15] <genewitch> from blank SSD to non-working WIFI within an hour
[04:15] <bobweaver> genewitch,  you have boted into different kernel ?
[04:15] <bobweaver> to test ^^
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> chubz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376407/
[04:15] <genewitch> bobweaver: i tried booting into 3.5.0-17 and ran the same commands
[04:15] <genewitch> bobweaver: same errors
[04:15] <bobweaver> ummmm......
[04:16] <bobweaver> weird
[04:16] <genewitch> how do i see what the original software upgrade did
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: are there bugs reported for the 3.5.0-17 kernel and broadcom?
[04:16] <genewitch> because i can find out what it removed and put it back
[04:16] <chubz> ActionParsnip: thanks
[04:17] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: dunno, the help.ubuntu.com stuff is just a loop. i don't know where to actually search for bugs. and it would be a 3.5.0-18 bug not a 17
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-card-bcm43xx/217616#217616   seems to mention the 3.5.0.017
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: try:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-headers-generic
[04:19] <bobweaver> genewitch,  also are you sure that it is not hard or soft blocked ?  rfkill list all
[04:19] <genewitch> bobweaver: samesung-wlan not blobked
[04:20] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: do i need the GENERIC part?
[04:20] <genewitch> that's probably why this isn't working
[04:20] <genewitch> ugh
[04:20] <genewitch> UGH
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: if your kernel is the generic kernel, you want the generic headers. If you had the pae kernel, you'd want the pae headers
[04:21] <Heather_> why is it that I dont have /etc/hosts/ ?
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> Heather_: as in the file /etc/hosts
[04:21] <Heather_> yes
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> Heather_: or a folder /etc/hosts with stuff in ?
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> Heather_: that's not good
[04:21] <Heather_> folder
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> Heather_: ah, let me see
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> Heather_: no hosts folder here in /etc
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> Heather_: I have a hosts file
[04:22] <genewitch> ActionParsnip: pae would be for 32bit with > 3.5GB ram?
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: yes
[04:22] <genewitch> i imagine a server distro
[04:22] <genewitch> yeah not that. i think it worked
[04:22] <genewitch> wooooot
[04:22] <bobweaver>  /etc/hosts is a file
[04:22] <Heather_> ActionParsnip thanks thats what I was looking for
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: its just to access more ram, but each process wil only see 3.2Gb ram :)
[04:23] <genewitch> yeah, perfect for tomcat
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: oh, what worked?
[04:23] <genewitch> bcmwl-kernel-source installed sucessfully i think
[04:23] <genewitch> AND WIFI WORKS
[04:23] <genewitch> let's see for how long
[04:23] <bobweaver> \o/
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: is tomcat known to get a bit ram-hungry?
[04:23] <genewitch> ;-)
[04:24] <genewitch> dude it was totally my fault. :-(
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: sweet grandma's spatula, it worked
[04:24] <genewitch> linux-headers-3.5.0-18-generic is what i needed
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: no worries dude, things happen
[04:24]  * bobweaver googles spatula
[04:24] <bobweaver> lol
[04:24] <genewitch> it's like a spanner for pancakes
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: not seen Anchorman with Willl Ferrell ?
[04:25] <bobweaver> not in a while ActionParsnip  I should add to my Ubuntu TV
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> genewitch: well, you got the gold and that's what counts :)
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: hehe it's one of his exclamations :)
[04:25] <bobweaver> genewitch,  it is my fault for not asking for uname -a and asking for uname -r
[04:25] <Rock> how to reset my language setting in englist it just show me in some chinese
[04:25] <genewitch> yeah. Now i have to figure out this intel/AMD videocard vga_switcaroo thing
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> 'sweet Odin's raven!!#
[04:26] <bobweaver> lol
[04:26] <Rock> http://i47.tinypic.com/ff8o7o.png
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> glad that's over, broadcom can be a real div sometimes :)
[04:26] <genewitc1> okay so can i use vga_switcheroo with the amd binary drivers?
[04:27] <Rock> how to reset my language setting in englist it just show me in some chinese http://i47.tinypic.com/ff8o7o.png
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> Rock: blue flag in the top right
[04:27] <genewitc1> ActionParsnip: it had an intel 6150 in it, i ripped it out because windows did THIS EXACT same thing with the intel card
[04:27] <bobweaver> Rock with  gnome-language-selector ?
[04:27] <Rock> but whts the step i do in tht section
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Rock: can you make another image if someone cannot guide you. I'm on XP at work
[04:28] <bobweaver> Rock,  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/
[04:28] <praveenmarkandu> can anyone help me to access MTP devices via the shell
[04:29] <Rock> is there any command line stuff to reset my language setting?
[04:29] <genewitc1> Rock: i think that keyboard is your language setting
[04:30] <bobweaver> Rock,  edit /etc/default/locale and ~/.pam_environment
[04:30] <genewitc1> do you need to do locale-gen && . /etc/profile
[04:30] <genewitc1> ?
[04:31] <bobweaver> Rock, guide http://askubuntu.com/questions/133318/how-do-i-change-the-language-via-a-terminal
[04:31] <Rock> bobweaver /etc/default/locale contains: LANG="en_IN" 2 LANGUAGE="en_IN:en"
[04:31] <skunk> cnf: remember when you said you maintain the magic mouse driver for ubuntu? you know anything about the mighty mouse? and how to disable unneeded buttons (the side ones)
[04:31] <genewitc1> the side ones are so needed
[04:32] <bobweaver> Rock,  even better http://askubuntu.com/questions/152668/i-cannot-set-my-system-back-to-english-from-chinese-language
[04:32] <genewitc1> haha
[04:33] <skunk> genewitcl: I only used the side ones for expose on tiger. On ubuntu everytime i press it it takes me back a page in chrome
[04:33] <genewitc1> all that url is missing is "help"
[04:33] <bobweaver> zh_CN.utf8
[04:33] <genewitc1> skunk: that's pretty cool
[04:33] <bobweaver> google would see it more genewitc1  with help in it
[04:34] <genewitc1> skunk: you have to tell X to treat those as just generic buttons as opposed to navigation buttons
[04:34] <genewitc1> skunk: i bet the right hand one goes forwards
[04:34] <praveenmarkandu> nope? no help with MTP?
[04:34] <skunk> genewitcl: I mapped the button via xev. They are named Button8
[04:34] <skunk> genewitcl: modifying them is a different story
[04:34] <Samizdat> I'm having problems getting my USB/DAC to work.  I keep getting a sync error : cannot submit urb (err = -27)
[04:35] <phy1729> how do I stop ubuntu from sending packets to 224.0.0.1?
[04:35] <Samizdat> This one comes before it: [ 2189.797804] delay: estimated 354, actual 1
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> phy1729: set an iptables rule
[04:36] <phy1729> ActionParsnip: did that it doesn't work
[04:36] <phy1729> and #iptables is stumped
[04:36] <Samizdat> My sound works for a bit, then cuts out.
[04:36] <genewitc1> phy1729: yeah, iptables. that address looks like an ISP gateway, why do you want to block packets to it
[04:37] <phy1729> genewitc1: it's multicast I don't use it so I see no reason for it to fill up logs or be a possible attack vector
[04:37] <bobweaver> ipcop ^^ ?
[04:37] <bobweaver> nm
[04:37] <genewitc1> phy1729: there's an ifconfig thing to turn off multicast
[04:37] <Rock> bobweaver: thanx ur link solved it just do little editing in .pam_enviroment
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[04:37]  * phy1729 goes off to man ifconfig
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> phy1729: could use ufw instead
[04:38] <vikasjain> i am tryin on my own to install eclipse for last 2 days. But have not been able to do so. I see the icon  in dash home. When i double click the eclipse icon it does not open. Can some1 guide me if u have any idea
[04:38] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: quantal
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> vikasjain: if you run it from a terminal, the output may help
[04:38] <genewitc1> phy1729: ifconfig eth0 multicast off
[04:38] <bobweaver> Rock,  没问题
[04:38] <genewitc1> maybe
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: try:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds then reboot
[04:39] <vikasjain> hi @actionparsnip i get this bash: /usr/bin/eclipse: No such file or directory
[04:39] <genewitc1> vikasjain: do you have java installed
[04:39] <genewitc1> the JDK not the JRE
[04:39] <vikasjain> @genewitc1 yep
[04:39] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip:  Will do.
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> vikasjain: ok then run: grep -i eclip /usr/share/applications/* | grep Exec
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: will default the sound settings, may help
[04:40] <bobweaver> dpkg-query -l | eclipse       ?
[04:40] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip it does not yield any result
[04:40] <bobweaver> dpkg-query -l | grep eclipse       ?
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> vikasjain: did you make the launcher yourself?
[04:41] <bobweaver> and
[04:41] <vikasjain> yes
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> vikasjain: how did you install eclipse?
[04:41] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip yes
[04:41] <phy1729> genewitc1: ifconfig eth0 -multicast
[04:41] <Rock> vikasjain : why dont u reinstall it
[04:41] <genewitc1> phy1729: i was close, sorry
[04:41] <phy1729> that's alright wouldn't have found it otherwise
[04:42] <phy1729> now to put that in /etc/networking/interfaces
[04:42] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip , I downloaded eclipse , untarred it , Created a soft link , Added the it to main menu under programming
[04:42] <vikasjain> @rock im tryin it
[04:42] <vikasjain> but for some reason im missing a step i feel
[04:42] <bobweaver> vikasjain,  why not from the softwre center ? just wondering ?
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> vikasjain: where did you extract it to?
[04:43] <Rock> @viaksjain install it from software center
[04:43] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip i created a folder called eclipse in my home directory
[04:44] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip gave a soft link to /usr/bin/
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> vikasjain: try running:   ~/eclipse/eclipse      does it run ok? also, why did you not use the one from the repos as bobweaver asked?
[04:44] <vikasjain> @bobweaver i will try in case something else does not work
[04:45] <bobweaver> vikasjain,  just wondering why not ?  do you need alpha version or something ?
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> vikasjain: I assume the binary is called 'eclipse'
[04:45] <vikasjain> @bobweaver i will try.. I don need any alpha version..!!
[04:45] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip yep
[04:46] <bobweaver> vikasjain,  can we see eclispe.desktop  ?
[04:46] <bobweaver> !pastebin | vikasjain
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> vikasjain: does it launch ok using the command I gave
[04:47] <Rock> running apps in terminal like synaptic it gives me the error :(process:3158): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[04:47] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip it does
[04:48] <bobweaver> Rock,  synaptic needs sudo permissions like gksudo synaptic
[04:48] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip sorry typo it does not launch
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> vikasjain: i'd use the packaged version
[04:48] <bobweaver> or maybe Lib is not up too date not sure how much synaptic is deved on now a days
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> !info eclipse
[04:48] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip let me try from software center
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> vikasjain: sudo apt-get install eclipse
[04:48] <bobweaver> because it does not use session-installer
[04:49] <bobweaver> Rock, ^^
[04:49] <Rock> bobweaver: but why i type any apps name like deluge-gtk it gives me the same error
[04:49] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: Same. Audio works for a bit, then cuts out.
[04:49] <Samizdat> [  298.308507] cannot submit urb (err = -27)
[04:49] <bobweaver> Rock,  C lib
[04:49] <Rock> how to fix it ?
[04:49] <Samizdat> [  298.308501] delay: estimated 353, actual 0
[04:49] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip sure..!! Apreciate your help
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: is it a laptop?
[04:49] <Samizdat> Yeah.
[04:49] <bobweaver> Rock, it is not a error it is a warning
[04:50] <Rock> whtever: is there any fix for this
[04:50] <dwarder> which mindmap software would you suggest?
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[04:50] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: Yeah. Thing is, I can't find this error code anywhere.
[04:50] <bobweaver> like if I was to make c++ program  and Cmake looks to see if I am using windows nope so it falls back  << Rock
[04:52] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Q9sj5V3w
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: run:  cd $HOME
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: then retry
[04:53] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: Same thing.
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: when did I say:  sudo wget?
[04:55] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: Fair enough. My bad.
[04:55] <kazagistar> my nautilus is missing the "create file" option in the right-click menu... I am running gnome-desktop on a minimal ubuntu install... can anyone help me get "Create empty file" button?
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: if it needed sudo, I would have added it. Don't go adding sudo to commands just because you feel like it you can and will really screw your OS.
[04:56] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: gk@gk-HP-ProBook-4530s:~$ wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh alsa-info.sh: Permission denied
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: you will need to run:  sudo rm ~/
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> wait
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: you will need to run:  sudo rm ~/alsa-info.sh
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: as the file is owned by root as you added sudo to the wget (for some unknown reason)
[04:56] <lolo> alguna nena de tampico
[04:57] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: Now the wget command?
[04:57] <bobweaver> dang upstreames ActionParsnip
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: yes, the command I gave, as I gave it
[04:57] <bobweaver> upstreamer's*
[04:58] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: I agree to upload data?
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: please, it will make a URL. Give the URL in the channel please
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: I don't follow
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: use tab and enter to navigate the menus :)
[04:59] <dixoncx> Help regarding custom keyboard shortcuts. I want to set for "firefox -P RevS -no-remote" (ie., firefox with custom profile). But it didn't work after reboot. Any other way to do this ?
[05:00] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: alsa-info.txt.sNaroYelSx
[05:00] <Samizdat> Is that what you meant?
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: ok, open that file in gedit
[05:01] <Samizdat> I did.
[05:01] <Samizdat> I don't see a url in it, ActionParsnip.
[05:01] <Samizdat> I opened it in Nano, actuall.
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: ok then select to not upload and a text file will be made in /tmp. open it in gedit and use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com   to pastebin it
[05:05] <extropy> how can I install a new kernel on a release that doesn't yet support my hardware?
[05:05] <dixoncx> bump
[05:05] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1376474/
[05:05] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: I know I'm on a crazy kernel, but tried every release along the way.
[05:05] <bobweaver> extropy,  what kernel and what version?
[05:06] <bobweaver> version = ubuntu version
[05:06] <Samizdat> It had previously fixed this issue when I went to 3.6.2
[05:06] <extropy> I'd like to put 12.10 on my box but it's Atom D2700 w/ GMA 3600
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: where did you get alsa driver k3.7.0-999-generic   from?
[05:06] <extropy> for some reason ubuntu's installer works just find but when I try to boot it hangs
[05:06] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: I have no idea.
[05:07] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: The issue was here before I upgraded at all.
[05:07] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: It was happening on a clean install of Kubuntu 12.10
[05:08] <extropy> D2700 allegedly doesn't support 64-bit even though it has EMT64 extension. I believe this is because Intel's GMA graphics don't suport it.
[05:08] <extropy> graphics and/or chipset
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: why have you got the Raring kernel in Quantal?
[05:08] <extropy> really frustrating to see a 32-bit kernel hang while you're trying to boot. No idea why the installer even works to be honest
[05:09] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: The Raring kernel? Is that the 3.7?
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: yes, so you are using a 3rd party kernel
[05:10] <extropy> can unity run without compiz?
[05:10] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: It's working nicely actually. Machine is fast. The problem was here before the kernel, also.
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: the alsa driver which has come with the kernel cannot be supported by us. I suggest you contact the packager
[05:10] <bobweaver> extropy, No WAY
[05:11] <bobweaver> unity can not run with out compiz
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> extropy: unity is a plugin for compiz
[05:11] <extropy> ouch
[05:11] <extropy> huh, TIL
[05:11] <bobweaver> well unity 3d ^^
[05:11] <bobweaver> ;)
[05:11] <sudaya> hi all, registerd server not shown in pgadmin III while postgres sql is running
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> extropy: if you stick to precise you can use 2D which doesn't use compiz
[05:11] <extropy> boom goes the dynamite!
[05:11] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: If I walk it back to 3.6, would you know what steps to take?
[05:12] <sudaya> hi all, registerd server not shown in pgadmin III while postgres sql is running is there any problem ??
[05:12] <bobweaver> extropy,  I hear that there is form.factor tv desktop notebook and phone in unity 2d
[05:12] <sudaya> any one please help
[05:13] <bobweaver> like in my repo
[05:13] <extropy> wow, so at this point I'm not entirely sure what the relationship between compiz, wayland and unity really is
[05:13] <xangua> ActionParsnip: doesn't unity use  LLVMpipe to run it there is no hardware acceleration¿
[05:13] <oldmankdude> is there a particular command to reinstall the kernel in /boot ? can't seem to figure it out... removing/purging and reinstalling linux-image doesnt seem to do the trick
[05:13] <extropy> unity is a compiz plugin? and not the other way around? mind=blown
[05:13] <bobweaver> extropy,  what are you questions about unity 3d ? Like lins and such ?
[05:14] <bobweaver> s|lins | like
[05:14] <extropy> I'm not a big fan of Unity3D ... more of a UDK type I think
[05:14] <bobweaver> extropy, unreal development kit ?
[05:14] <gimpygoo> im having trouble getting the shade feature to work .. anyone have any thoughts?
[05:14] <extropy> indeed
[05:14] <bobweaver> for games ?
[05:14] <gimpygoo> I have a new instal .
[05:14] <gimpygoo> install*
[05:15] <extropy> right, that's the joke right? Unity3D?
[05:15] <extropy> what do I win?
[05:15] <bobweaver> but unity 4
[05:15] <bobweaver> you loss
[05:15] <cm> why grub2 can't show .jpg background image which comes from /usr/share/backgrounds? if I save .jpg as .png, then grub2 can show .png background image. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10.
[05:16] <bobweaver> Ok not as good as UDK but still a great engine that is now  comming to *nix
[05:16] <bobweaver> extropy,  ^^
[05:16] <extropy> think I'll just wait for John Carmack to release a new tech engine and use the old one for free xD
[05:16] <bobweaver> extropy,  we can only pray that UDK sees that valve and unity 4 are here so kwhy not UDK
[05:17] <bobweaver> s|kwhy | why
[05:17] <dixoncx> Help regarding custom keyboard shortcuts. I want to set for "firefox -P RevS -no-remote" (ie., firefox with custom profile). It works but not persistent. ie., it didn't work after reboot. Any other way to do this ??
[05:17] <bobweaver> extropy, ? Oo* ?
[05:17] <extropy> man, what's the word on Steam for Linux anyway? I feel like we should be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:18] <bobweaver> yup +1 ^^
[05:18] <sudaya> hi all, registerd server not shown in pgadmin III while postgres sql is running is there any problem ??
[05:20] <bobweaver> dixoncx, why not make a quicklist for that ?
[05:21] <extropy> lol, I just got that "bobbin' and weavin'"
[05:21] <dixoncx> bobweaver: how ?
[05:22] <bobweaver> dixoncx,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/35488/what-custom-launchers-and-unity-quicklists-are-available
[05:22] <bobweaver> there is FF one
[05:22] <bobweaver> #32
[05:22] <dixoncx> bobweaver: i will look through it..
[05:23] <bobweaver> dixoncx,  not sure about keyboard though sorry others will know
[05:25] <dixoncx> bobweaver: Its Ok, thats for insight about quicklist :)
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> xangua: yes in Quantal
[05:25] <noliverh> hello
[05:26] <noliverh> how to switch from one channel to other?
[05:26] <noliverh> im using irssi now
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> noliverh: have you joined other channels?
[05:27] <noliverh> ActionParsnip: after i joined to another channel, i cannot see other channels anymore
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> noliverh: you can use ALT + number to switch between joined channels
[05:27] <noliverh> ActionParsnip: okies...
[05:27] <seednode> What IRc client are they using?
[05:27] <seednode> Oh, irssi
[05:27] <seednode> I prefer weechat
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> noliverh: if you are targetted in a channel, you will see a pink highlight in the bottom left
[05:28] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5a1c54de9ff527595f655dc25760be8174f7fe15
[05:28] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip finally my eclipse works
[05:28] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip thanks a lot
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: see how the alsa driver is different
[05:28] <noliverh> ActionParsnip: i will try... switching from other channels
[05:29] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: Yes, but the same audio problem.
[05:29] <extropy> If Intel advertises the fact that their Atom chips are 64-bit but don't support 64-bit OS' can Atom buyers sue them for false advertising?
[05:29] <xrs1> can i sue Atari for selling me a Jaguar?
[05:30] <Samizdat> extropy: Anybody can sue anybody for anything.
[05:30] <extropy> you can if they mislead you into buying it I suppose
[05:30] <NSAgent> How so? The CPU is 64 bit, the chipset and BIOS probably aren't
[05:30] <extropy> Intel's excuse: "we don't want Atom supplanting sales of Celeron and Core i3" :T
[05:31] <xigate> hi im newbie
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> noliverh: are you using the USB audio?
[05:31] <xrs1> aparently you dont remember the Atari Jaguar "Do the Math" commercials.    blasted you will how it was a 64bit system (in reality it was a dual 32bit processor system that split the instruction set in half)
[05:31] <noliverh> ActionParsnip: nope
[05:31] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip i am unable to open it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376495/ is the error
[05:31] <noliverh> ActionParsnip: what is that?
[05:31] <extropy> huh, crazy
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> noliverh: sorry, wrong target
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: do you use the usb audio?
[05:32] <Samizdat> I'm trying to.
[05:32] <extropy> I feel like Microsoft is behind this somehow
[05:32] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: ^
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: tried a different USB port?
[05:32] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: Yes, same.
[05:32] <xrs1> USB Legacy Support enabled in BIOS?
[05:32] <xigate> woow mazing
[05:33] <xrs1> disable onboard audio?
[05:33] <xigate> gavin : hi
[05:33] <xigate> u ask me?
[05:33] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: I used it with Ubuntu 12.04, had issues with 12.10 until I changed to kernel 3.6.2
[05:34] <xigate> my dell n4050 have wireles problem
[05:34] <noliverh> ActionParsnip: can i open other irc server aside this freenode?
[05:34] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: I then switched to openSUSE and the problems came back. I installed Kubuntu 12.10 this morning and have been fighting with it all day.
[05:34] <noliverh> i mean two server at a time?
[05:34] <Samizdat> noliverh: Ofc, if your client allows it.
[05:34] <extropy> is there a way to throw a new kernel on *while* installing Ubuntu from scratch so I can actually boot the machine once it's done installing?
[05:35] <noliverh> at the same time Samizdat ?
[05:35] <xrs1> install the linux headers before you reboot?
[05:35] <noliverh> Samizdat: how?
[05:35] <NSAgent> Linux headers are not the kernel
[05:35] <Samizdat> I'm on two servers right now, noliverh.
[05:35] <extropy> omg, I just realized the problems I having are probably just graphics related
[05:35] <extropy> how can I skip trying to support my graphics hardware before an appropriate driver can be installed?
[05:36] <Samizdat> noliverh: What client are you using?
[05:37] <xigate> gavin : like my nighbour name  lol
[05:38] <zizo> how installing ubuntu with windows in  same hard disk
[05:38] <xigate> partition
[05:39] <xrs1> or use Wubi
[05:40] <xrs1> when you install Ubuntu it will give you the chance to shrink your Windows partition so you can install Ubuntu
[05:41] <blackshirt> !find ntfs
[05:42] <blackshirt> Is there tool to fix ntfs ?
[05:42] <xrs1> testdisk
[05:42] <sudaya> how to resolve skype dependency ??
[05:42] <xrs1> can do some stuffs
[05:43] <xrs1> sudo apt-get build-dep
[05:43] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip:
[05:43] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: Any ideas?
[05:44] <almoxarife> blackshirt: ntfs has to be fixed from the windows side
[05:45] <ms_> hi all!!! I have some problems with my xfce.
[05:45] <sudaya> how to install skype in 12.04
[05:45] <xrs1> i dont know how to fix the "some problems"
[05:46] <ms_> first, I can't change my background.
[05:46] <xrs1> sudo apt-get install skype
[05:46] <xangua> sudaya: sudo apt-get install skype  (you need partner repository enabled) or download it from skype.com
[05:46] <xrs1> right click on desktop -> Desktop settings -> "+"
[05:46] <sudaya> xrs1: xangua i have download .deb file
[05:46] <ms_> second, when I shut down, it shows me:"session manager must be in idle state when requesting a shutdown"
[05:47] <xrs1> open the .deb with Ubuntu Software Center
[05:47] <onborad> Dear all, my laptop fans runing faster and make noisely .How can I control fans ,I have use  Thinkpad fan enable level auto ,but no work
[05:47] <sudaya> xangua: wehn i try to install it give dependency skype-bin
[05:47] <onborad> ?
[05:47] <onborad> Dear all, my laptop fans runing faster and make noisely .How can I control fans ,I have use  Thinkpad fan enable level auto ,but no work
[05:47] <sudaya> xrs1: i have done same but give dependency skype-bin
[05:48] <xrs1> have u enabled your software sources?
[05:48] <sudaya> xrs1: YEAH
[05:49] <xangua> sudaya: i have no problems with skype installed from software center
[05:49] <xrs1> i'd just forget the .deb and open Ubuntu Software Center and install the one in there then
[05:49] <sudaya> xrs1: i have also tried it first as u said but get same message dependecny skype-bin not found
[05:50] <DND> hi guys i need help with dual booting ubuntu and windows 7
[05:50] <xrs1> let me try installing
[05:50] <sudaya> xrs1: sure thank you
[05:50] <almoxarife> !skype
[05:51] <DND> the problem is my PC came with preinstalled OS. and i can see there are 4 partitions in windows. 2 system partitions, 1 partition(c drive) and one recovery partition
[05:51] <DND> now i tried shrinking C: drive then booted to ubuntu CD. but ubuntu cannot make me use the shrinked partition
[05:52] <xrs1> do you have a system restore disk for the computer?
[05:52] <DND> xrs1, yes the recovery partition
[05:52] <xrs1> no an actaul disk
[05:52] <sudaya> ubottu: i have tried already
[05:52] <DND> 2 system parition is around 100mb each
[05:52] <sudaya> xrs1: for ubuntu ? or windows
[05:53] <DND> cd? i just made one yesterday because i dont want to destroy the partitions without recovery cd
[05:53] <wingy> when you use curl -F subscribed=True, what is True equivalent in a programming language .. is it the boolean true or the string "True" ?
[05:53] <xrs1> that came with the computer in case that recovery partition got erased
[05:53] <xrs1> or if you decided to upgrade / replace the hard drive
[05:53] <DND> its an HP elite 8200. but im not sure what will be the behavior if i erased the recovery partition
[05:54] <DND> if i erased it, will the cd be dependent on it or not
[05:54] <xrs1> you wont be able to use the Direct2Disk recovery thats in there
[05:54] <xrs1> you will need to download updates from the manufacturer (you should any way, the ones in the recovery partition are old)
[05:55] <sudaya> xrs1: is skype working on ur system ??
[05:55] <xrs1> its installing
[05:55] <DND> can i delete at least 1 system partition? its only 100 mb
[05:55] <xrs1> leave that one
[05:55] <almoxarife> sudaya: open a terminal and run 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:55] <xrs1> oh you have 2 100MB
[05:55] <almoxarife> sudaya: open a terminal and run 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'
[05:56] <xrs1> time to ask in ##windows
[05:56] <DND> yep
[05:56] <DND> im going there now
[05:56] <DND> thanks
[05:56] <sudaya> almoxarife: for what ??
[05:56] <ms_> hey!!!, when I shut down, it shows me:"session manager must be in idle state when requesting a shutdown" and refuse to stop!!
[05:57] <xrs1> skype installed and runs fine (Ubuntu Studio 12.10 x64)
[05:57] <almoxarife> sudaya: in terminal run 'sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" | pastebinit <-- share the link
[05:59] <sudaya> xrs1: http://pastebin.com/c5WacUNX
[05:59] <sudaya> xrs1: i got this message
[05:59] <lahwran> how do I reenable ctrl+alt+backspace?
[05:59] <lahwran> also in the meantime, how do I restart X without the help of ctrl+alt+backspace?
[05:59] <almoxarife> sudaya: then run this terminal command, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype | pastebinit <--share link
[06:00] <necavi> Hello, I recently installed ubuntu 12.10, followed by AMD's drivers. Upon restart I found that after login I get a completely blank screen although keyboard shortcuts do seem to be working (brought up terminal) any ideas as to what I can do to fix this?
[06:00] <xrs1> ah i see whats going on here
[06:00] <noliverh> why is it i got access denied when editing samba/smb.conf in my ubuntu server?
[06:00] <lahwran> necavi: hold on, completely blank screen but you brought something up?
[06:00] <xrs1> sudo dpkg --configure && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get update
[06:01] <xrs1> oops thats not what i wanted.... well it'll do  :P
[06:01] <DND> windwos guys doesnt respond. sheesh
[06:01] <NSAgent> noliverh: You need to edit as root, ie sudo gedut smb.conf (or vi, nano, etc)
[06:01] <necavi> lahwran: Yes
[06:01] <NSAgent> *gedit
[06:01] <shinobi_> How to I get xchat in the systray? I'm running gnome classic
[06:01] <noliverh> NSAgent: thanks
[06:01] <sudaya> almoxarife: xrs1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376516/
[06:01] <xrs1> i have deleted those system reserve partitions and been okay.  but i took a look inside first and they did look important
[06:02] <xrs1> sudo dpkg --configure && sudo apt-get install -i
[06:02] <almoxarife> sudaya: where is the first paste?
[06:03] <xrs1> forget && and byond. being lazy and pasting stuff you dont want  >_<
[06:04] <sudaya> xrs1: i didnt get it
[06:04] <Ann-Mariya> How can I unlock a micro sd memory card in ubuntu ?
[06:04]  * mau5ie pokes necavi
[06:04] <ms_> need help please!!! when I shut down my pc, it shows me:"Failed to receive a reply from the session manager... Session manager must be in idle state when requesting a shutdown" and refuse to stop!!
[06:05] <noliverh> how to resize window using cli?
[06:05] <noliverh> im using ubuntu server and want to get back to my server
[06:05] <noliverh> i cant coz irssi is occupying my whole screen
[06:05] <xrs1> sudo dpkg --configure && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get check && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get check && sudo apt-get build-dep
[06:06] <noliverh> how can i minize this thing?
[06:06] <xrs1> that should do something
[06:06] <noliverh> i dont have a mouse
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> ms_: are there any bugs reported?
[06:06] <xrs1> alt + space
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> noliverh: look into screen
[06:06] <noliverh> ActionParsnip: how to get back to my server screen?
[06:07] <ms_> ActionParsnip, no it doesn't ask anything!!!
[06:07] <dibblego> "gnome-session-save --kill --silent" would log me out in older ubuntu versions — what's the same for gnome3?
[06:07] <Ann-Mariya> Is there any doftware to unlock a micro sd memory card in ubuntu ?
[06:07] <Ann-Mariya> Is there any software to unlock a micro sd memory card in ubuntu ?	
[06:07] <noliverh> ActionParsnip: how to get back to my server screen without closing the irssi
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> noliverh: you will need to quit the client then you can use creen so you can switch between typing here and command on the server
[06:08] <xrs1> testdisk might help.  gparted wont let you erase?
[06:08] <almoxarife> ms_: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6580 <-- look over that link, it offers some ideas
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> ms_: search launchpad for bugs, see if it is a known issue
[06:08] <noliverh> ActionParsnip: how to make a screen on the server?
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> noliverh: its an application
[06:09] <xwalk> noliverh: I think he was referring to the program called screen, it's a terminal multiplexer.
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> noliverh: its like different workspaces in the deskotp OS
[06:09] <ms_> almoxarife, ok.
[06:09] <Samizdat> ActionParsnip: Any more ideas for me?
[06:10] <noliverh> ActionParsnip: okies
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: all I can recommend is report a bug
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: could try Raring liveCD, see if it is the same
[06:10] <ms_> almoxarife, wow, even my mozilla isn't working!!!!
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> ms_: mozilla isn't a program
[06:11] <Samizdat> Maybe I'll go back to 12.04.
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> Samizdat: it is LTS
[06:11] <xrs1> yup. go back to 12.04
[06:11] <ms_> ActionParsnip, none of my web browser aren't working
[06:11] <xrs1> good
[06:12] <noliverh> is there a gui for the ubuntu server?
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> ms_: so it's firefox...not mozilla
[06:12] <noliverh> it is so hard switching between applications
[06:12] <almoxarife> noliverh: install one, pick one
[06:12] <noliverh> almoxarife: like?
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> noliverh: the server is cli for a good few reasons. If you install screen, you can switch easily
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> ms_: in what way are they not working?
[06:13] <noliverh> im already using screen...
[06:13] <noliverh> ActionParsnip: using screen now... but i don't know how to switch between applications
[06:13] <ms_> ActionParsnip, it can't opening. :(
[06:13] <almoxarife> noliverh: kde is always a good one, but you might want something lighter, xfce?
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> ms_: try running it from a terminal
[06:14] <xwalk> noliverh: You may want to take a minute to read the man page and some of the key bindings for screen. I think that would help.
[06:14] <praveenmarkandu> how do I access an MTP device via the shell?
[06:14] <noliverh> xwalk: okies...
[06:14] <ms_> ActionParsnip, nada :(
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> ms_: any text output?
[06:15] <praveenmarkandu> anyone can help?
[06:15] <xrs1> i've never tried
[06:16] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: are you just wanting the content?
[06:16] <ms_> ActionParsnip, there's nothing. I think, it has relation with the way that my pc refuse to shut down.
[06:16] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: yes.
[06:17] <praveenmarkandu> i was using ubuntu 12.04
[06:17] <praveenmarkandu> and I could access it via the ~/.gvfs
[06:17] <praveenmarkandu> folder
[06:17] <praveenmarkandu> i was using gnome-shell though
[06:17] <praveenmarkandu> but now i just installed 12.10 and i cant see that anymore
[06:17] <praveenmarkandu> was the gvfs just a gnome-shell thing?
[06:18] <praveenmarkandu> or has it completely been removed from 12.10
[06:18] <praveenmarkandu> i can still see it via nautilus
[06:18] <praveenmarkandu> but i was to script
[06:18] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: you may need to re-install gvfs
[06:19] <praveenmarkandu> oh
[06:19] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: i am assuming the gvfs package is not there or the service is not starting
[06:19] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: oh okay
[06:20] <praveenmarkandu> will try. ubuntu 12.10 is being crap with my wifi again.
[06:20] <praveenmarkandu> 11.10 was good, then 12.04 suddenly screwed up my wifi
[06:21] <praveenmarkandu> bcm drivers or whatever
[06:21] <vadi2> What is to be done when an official Ubuntu package is missing the binary it should be providing? Just has documentation and that's it.
[06:23] <almoxarife> vadi2: try the question from the 'i am missing ....... from .........' any thoughts
[06:23] <vadi2> Missing the binary from jockey-gtk in 12.10
[06:23] <vadi2> But... I think it was merged into software-properties.
[06:23] <ms_> ActionParsnip, I just reboot my pc, and firefox is working again!! :) but it is still refusing to stop :(
[06:24] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: i noticed that upgrades never work well in ubuntu, not sure why
[06:26] <sudaya> hi all i get this problem while installing teamviewer 7 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376541/ any help please
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> ms_: stop what?
[06:29] <xwalk> sudaya: What do you think it particularly wrong with that message?
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> sudaya: what are your intentions once you get to the remote desktop?
[06:29] <xwalk> s/it/is
[06:29] <ms_> ActionParsnip, I can't shut down my pc!!!
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> ms_: I suggest you report a bug then
[06:30] <ms_> ActionParsnip, how?
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> ms_: if you run:  sudo shutdown -h now     does it doe?
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> *die
[06:30] <almoxarife> sudaya: no problem shown on pastebin
[06:31] <ms_> ActionParsnip, it shows: "shutdown: time expected
[06:31] <ms_> Try `shutdown --help' for more information.
[06:31] <ms_> "
[06:31] <sudaya> sorry xwalk almoxarife http://pastebin.com/6MxXN80S
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> ms_: then you mistyped the command
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> sudaya: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[06:32] <xwalk> sudaya: ^
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> sudaya: again, what are you going to do on the remote system once you connect via teamviewer?
[06:32] <vikasjain> hi guys http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376495/ got this error for eclipse? Any idea how i can over come?
[06:33] <almoxarife> Package ia32-libs is not installed. <-- seems you are missing 32bit libs, a lot of them, sudaya
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> vikasjain: are you running eclipse from the same terminal?
[06:34] <sudaya> almoxarife: i am using 64 bit ubuntu 12.04
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> sudaya: will you kindly answer my question....
[06:34] <vikasjain> im running from application
[06:35] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip im running from application
[06:35] <sudaya> ActionParsnip: i use teamviewer for remote support
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> sudaya: of users you mean?
[06:35] <sudaya> ActionParsnip: yeah
[06:36] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: what are you getting at?
[06:36] <vikasjain> @ActionParsnip  i ran this /usr/bin/eclipse same error
[06:37] <almoxarife> sudaya: at this rate it may be easier to use the 'remote desktop' util of 'chromium/chrome'
[06:38] <sudaya> almoxarife: can remote desktop of chromium be used as teamviewer ??
[06:39] <almoxarife> sudaya: chrome on both ends work as remote desktops, teamviewer is not needed
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: 9 times out of 10, people automatically reach for VNC / Teamviewer when usually it's not needed and there are sleeker solutions.
[06:39] <sudaya> almoxarife: let me try it thank you for ur suggestion
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: I like to give the sleeker solutions
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: even had one guy state that he VNC'd to a server then launched a terminal....
[06:40] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: would you have a sleeker solution my dear mother would be able to install on her windoz-vista?
[06:41] <ms_> ActionParsnip, Yes Yes Yes. it shut down with "sudo shutdown -h now" :) but not with click in shut down button.
[06:41] <almoxarife> mom on ssh, that would be cool
[06:42] <almoxarife> ms_: did you try the link?
[06:42] <almoxarife> ms_: its a bug! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/978333
[06:43] <ms_> almoxarife, ooops I lost your previous link!!!
[06:43] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: seems like i have gvfs already
[06:44] <praveenmarkandu> but i still cant find a path
[06:44] <almoxarife> http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6580 ms_
[06:44] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: to gvfs?
[06:45] <noliverh_> c-a
[06:45] <ms_> almoxarife, ok, thanks.
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: depends what you are connecting to achieve :)
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> MSU: then it sounds like a permissions thing
[06:48] <g00053> would someone be willing to offer advice on a partitioning setup ?
[06:49] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: i cant find a path to the MTP device. used to be via the ~/.gvfs folder
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> g00053: what is the OS for?
[06:49] <g00053> 12.10
[06:50] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: looked in /media/??
[06:50] <rinzler> My ssh server is changing it's rsa key each time it identifies to the network. any way to prevent this?
[06:51] <g00053> i've got a 64gb ssd and a 1thb hdd with about half the space left . Currently my / and /home are on the ssd with a swap and i find I don't have enough space in /home
[06:52] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: the mtp is hardwired to the box, yes?
[06:52] <g00053> would it be okay to move /home to a partition on the hdd
[06:52] <g00053> and just use the ssd for root fold
[06:52] <g00053> er
[06:52] <nowayride> g00053: there shouldn't be any issues with that, does your 1tb have space to partition?
[06:52] <almoxarife> g00053: yes, but there are some steps to get it completed correctly
[06:53] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: not in /media. yes MTP device is connected via cable
[06:53] <g00053> i've got another drive i can back up data to and do a fresh install ...this one is only a few days old
[06:53] <g00053> I'd like to partition a little better
[06:54] <g00053> not sure how to handle the swap
[06:54] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: /mount/??
[06:54] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: no idea :)
[06:55] <nowayride> g00053: what do you mean not sure how to handle, you want to mount swap to the 1tb too?
[06:55] <praveenmarkandu> lol. from what i've read, mtp devices are "virtual
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> g00053: put swap /var and /home on the platter based drive and the rest on the SSD :)
[06:56] <praveenmarkandu> they arent associated with a block in /dev
[06:56] <rinzler> My ssh server is changing it's rsa key each time it identifies to the network. any way to prevent this?
[06:57] <nowayride> rinzler: is the key actually changing or are you losing your local ~/.ssh/known_keys file?
[06:57] <rinzler> nowayride: it's changing. I just rebooted my router, and my ssh client warned me about a man in the middle attack
[06:57] <nowayride> known_hosts *
[06:57] <nowayride> Hmm
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> im looking for an rss notifier every time something new comes out, any package can do this automaticly?
[06:58] <g00053> nowayride,  for whatever reason i have one on both drives ...i
[06:58] <aqian> hello
[06:58] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: they have to mount somewhere, are you sure you got the packages in the new install to read/write to mtp?
[06:58] <g00053> 'm not sure if thats right
[06:58] <g00053> or how big it should be
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: add omgubuntu rss, those guys seem on the ball
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: also webupd8
[06:59] <nowayride> So it warns you when you connect externally to the box behind the router then (basically, the IP you SSH to changed)
[06:59] <Dynamit> win 36
[06:59] <Dynamit> lol missed /
[06:59] <g00053> ActionParsnip, I don't think ubuntu seperates var by default? whats the benefit ?
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: I use feedindicator for RSS :)
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: i mean a package where i can add osn rss feeds of my choice to auto rss the feeds
[06:59] <almoxarife> lotuspsychje: thunderbird should, google reader does
[07:00] <rinzler> nowayride: The server's IP doesn't change. It's set as a static.
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:does feedindicator auto show?
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> g00053: not by default, but it can. /var holds a lot of temp stuff like logs and debs, you don't need those cluttering your SSD and using write cycles
[07:00] <rinzler> nowayride: (also, I tend to miss things if i
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: it polls periodically
[07:00] <rinzler> nowayride: (also, I tend to miss things if i'm not mentioned)
[07:01] <adknight87> I'm back
[07:01] <inner_peace> hello , is any one deal with zimbra mail server
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:cool! lemme check that1 out, what other indicator packages u got ( i installed old style gnome monitor indicator yesterday)
[07:01] <nowayride> rinzler: I realized I missed it when I was sending it :( so your server doesn't change but you reset your home router? This isn't all locally right?
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> g00053: also, move your web cache to ramdisk to make it fast as well as not use your HDD at all :)
[07:01] <g00053> okay fair enough would you recommend Raid 0 at all ?
[07:02] <rinzler> nowayride: what do you mean by locally?
[07:02] <g00053> i can see that chrome keeps a large cache but i'm unsure what ram disk is
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: I use unity-mail for email checking, indicator envelope changes when I get an email and notify-osd lets me know. When I click a mail my browser opens gmail page
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> g00053: its a disk space...in ram
[07:02] <nowayride> rinzler: The server you are SSHing into is not behind the same router you reset?
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:does that work for hotmail aswell?
[07:03] <rinzler> nowayride: it is.
[07:03]  * g00053 is googling :)
[07:03] <g00053> thanks!
[07:04] <nowayride> rinzler: Basically IP you SSH from hasn't changed, IP you SSH to hasn't changed, they are both static.. if so I wouldn't think the RSA key would change
[07:04] <rinzler> nowayride: my thoughts exactly. I DO, however have the server set up to use passwordless entry... (can't remember the name of it...
[07:06] <nowayride> rinzler: Public Key?
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: not sure, maybe
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: you know correct packagename for feedindicator, cant find it, mine is indicator-multiload
[07:06] <rinzler> nowayride: that would be it
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: its on google code site
[07:07] <adknight87> anyone know a good marquee for iss
[07:07] <adknight87> rss
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: http://code.google.com/p/feedindicator/
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> lets see
[07:08] <era878> My ubuntu server keeps getting ddosed what should I do?
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | era878
[07:10] <DrManhattan> is there still firestarter for ubuntu
[07:10] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: fyi. just to close the loop. found that gvfs has been moved to /run/user/<you>/gvfs/<complicated name>
[07:10] <DrManhattan> I used to use that back when I used centos
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> !info firestarter | DrManhattan
[07:10] <DrManhattan> before I cared about security :))
[07:10] <DrManhattan> Nice thanks
[07:10] <adknight87> lotusphsycheje: http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/121960/49/
[07:11] <nowayride> rinzler: So nothing changed at all? No software upgrades or anything?
[07:11] <nowayride> rinzler: And keys were not regenerated/removed on either machine?
[07:11] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: are you missing gvfs dir from your home folder?
[07:11] <rinzler> nowayride: none of the above
[07:12] <nowayride> rinzler: And you verified it's the server that's changing?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:omg what a nice app mate, tnx alot!! been looking for that long time
[07:13] <rinzler> nowayride: pretty durn
[07:13] <nowayride> rinzler: Because if your client's key file changed or you authenticate to a "new" host, it will ask you. If you authenticate to the same host and the key is different, I'm pretty sure it blocks you from connecting
[07:14] <rinzler> nowayride: yep.
[07:14] <rinzler> nowayride: that's my problem
[07:15] <nowayride> Which one, client preventing logon?
[07:15] <rinzler> nowayride: I can fix it, but I don't understand what the problem is to begin with
[07:15] <rinzler> nowayride: server changing keys
[07:15] <nowayride> rinzler: right, you can always grab the new key but it defeats the purpose of them.
[07:16] <rinzler> nowayride: yep. I don't know why the server changes keys
[07:16] <nowayride> rinzler: honestly nothing should be willingly changing authentication server side because that's a huge security risk, any custom scripts or cron jobs possibly?
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: yeah its not bad at all :)
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: add your local news too (bbc has nice rss feeds)
[07:16] <nowayride> rinzler: Or is there anything that triggers it? Is it always when you bounce your router?
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:yeah i got tons of feeds, always used google reader, but those days are over now :p
[07:17] <rinzler> nowayride: I've got an rsync cron job on the client for backup, but nothing on the server. It usually triggers on a reboot, but it just triggered on a router reset
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: http://imagebin.org/236793
[07:21] <adknight87> Anyone know how to monitor active data transfer on open connections?
[07:21] <rinzler> adknight87: a packet sniffer, perhaps?
[07:22] <adknight87> rinzler: I was just wanting the active connections and the data rates
[07:22] <nowayride> adknight87: netstat?
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> adknight87:like a upload/download bandwith monitor?
[07:22] <Gnomex> hi guys..
[07:23] <Gnomex> can i ask Something..
[07:23] <adknight87> More so ip address download/up rate
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> Gnomex:shoot
[07:23] <Gnomex> yes Lotus..
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> !info etherape | adknight87
[07:24] <Gnomex> i'm On with Ubuntu 12.04 lts..
[07:24] <ed_money> how can i determine if my wireless chipset supoorts monitor mode (RFMON) ?
[07:24] <Gnomex> want ask something..
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Gnomex
[07:25] <adknight87> !spam | lotuspsychje
[07:25] <Gnomex> Wait..
[07:25] <adknight87> LOL
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> ?
[07:25] <adknight87> !ask | lotuspsychje
[07:26] <adknight87> :P
[07:26] <almoxarife> !wireshark
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> adknight87:dont abuse the bot for no reason
[07:26] <adknight87> Don't get your panties in a not
[07:26] <adknight87> knot
[07:26] <nowayride> rinzler: All I could really find is http://www.turnkeylinux.org/forum/support/20120308/upgrade-rsa-key-changed-and-ssh-issue
[07:26] <LoSquartatore> try?
[07:26] <adknight87> I'm friendly and here to help
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> adknight87:i didnt ask or spammed...
[07:27] <almoxarife> adknight87: you want wireshark to monitor a data line(yours of course)
[07:28] <adknight87> almoxaife: Already have it I just want the most data used to connect ip address was wondering if there was a no brainer command for terminal
[07:29] <adknight87> etherape is pretty
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> adknight87:your welcome :p
[07:29] <Gnomex> i got Problem to Run some file in terminal permision denied..~!! why..??
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> !details | Gnomex
[07:30] <nowayride> Gnomex: what user are you running it from (and are you using sudo)
[07:30] <adknight87> Holy crap I have like a zillion ip's
[07:30] <Gnomex> I'm On Ubuntu 12.04lts i want run example.. gnome.pl
[07:30] <somsip> Gnomex: chmod +x perhaps?
[07:31] <adknight87> I take that back it's a massive blob
[07:31] <almoxarife> Gnomex: why do you want to run 'gnome.pl'
[07:31] <Heather_> how can I create raid in 12.10? Been searching on google without any success
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> !raid | Heather_
[07:32] <adknight87> !unity
[07:33] <adknight87> !fglrx
[07:33] <Gnomex> Okey i told yaa.. just wanna try Slowloris.pl  nuthing much.. LOL~!!
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> adknight87: use !trigger > yournick, dont spam the channel
[07:34] <somsip> Gnomex: try 'python Slowloris.pl'
[07:34] <nowayride> Lols slowloris
[07:35] <Gnomex> LOL
[07:36] <Gnomex> bash: ./slowloris.pl: Permission denied <<-- looking like this
[07:36] <nowayride> Gnomex not gonna have an ISP soon :)
[07:36] <Gnomex> means what..??
[07:37] <nowayride> Er, I'd have to assume you know what slowloris.pl does...
[07:38] <Gnomex> yeah i know.. flooding server right..
[07:38] <Heather_> lotuspsychje what is the ubuntu alternate install disk?
[07:38] <iamzim> Gnomex: do you trust the source of the file?
[07:38] <nowayride> Gnomex: You'll get reported quick.. just sayin
[07:39] <nowayride> INC Guard lul
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> Heather_:you can download it from ubuntu website, for alternative options in ubuntu install
[07:39] <somsip> Heather_: it's been discontinued. The minimal install is the other one, IIRC
[07:39] <Gnomex> nowayride What ur mean..?
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> oh
[07:40] <nowayride> Gnomex: any half decent hosing company would put DoS protection up quick, that script's been out a while
[07:41] <Gnomex> Owwh.. that means that script out of date for a now.?? Hmmm..
[07:41] <nowayride> Gnomex: not that it's out of date, but that technique has been out for a few years and most DDoS mitigation tools have had time to update it. Think of it like trying to use an old trojan on a computer with an updated antivirus
[07:41]  * iamzim -_-"
[07:42] <Gnomex> Hmm.. Oowwh.. i see tat.. Thanks for tat info Nowayride..
[07:42] <Heather_> somsip where can i find the minimal install?
[07:42] <Gnomex> :D i'm Noob in this DdOs program
[07:42] <Gnomex> :P
[07:42] <Heather_> nvm found it
[07:43] <somsip> Heather_: k
[07:43] <nowayride> Gnomex: Likely you'll shut down the server until either the admin catches on or if they have HTTP monitoring when it pops up, then they put something like Guard in place and you might get some legitimate traffic blocked
[07:43] <Heather_> Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" Minimal CD for raid install right?
[07:43] <somsip> Heather_: can't help you on the raid bit, but the rest looks ok
[07:43] <nowayride> It could work but it's not worth risking your internet service (or freedoms depending on country) just to annoy a sysadmin
[07:43] <somsip> !illegal | nowayride
[07:44] <moose-machine> hi. my laptop is connected to my TV via HDMI. I have noticed that some applications, send a crackling noise via the HDMI output (they sound ok on the PC's speakers. any idea what could the problem be?
[07:44] <Gnomex> i got it Nowayride.. :D thanks of Lot.. :D
[07:44] <nowayride> Um, somsip you should link that to Gnomex, he's the one trying to hack someone. I'm telling him why it won't work and why it's a bad idea. Thanks though
[07:44] <somsip> nowayride: I understand. The factoid was more direct than it needed to be. thanks for being reasonable
[07:45] <Gnomex> Hmm.. somsip can u give me tat link..??
[07:45] <almoxarife> Gnomex: you are done, no more discussion about your lame ddos script
[07:45] <nowayride> somsip: No worries, I work in the receiving end of these topics and get to deal with the hosts down :)
[07:45] <somsip> Gnomex: no - I'm not helping you with this now I know what the script does
[07:46] <somsip> nowayride: ditto. Fail2ban here...
[07:46] <nowayride> somsip: I'm the guy rebooting celerons that get DoSd
[07:46] <nowayride> But yeah, Fail2ban is really nice
[07:46] <Gnomex> ok.. Thanks VeryMuch.. :D nice Channel..
[07:52] <f00dMonsta_> hi, I'm running a VPS with Ubuntu server 64bit. I install MySQL and with the default settings it's using up 500M of ram... something I'm doing wrong?
[07:56] <klauel14> hello
[07:57] <kok> hey
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> :j #mysql
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> f00dMonsta_:you could try #mysql
[07:58] <f00dMonsta_> ok thx
[07:58] <somsip> f00dMonsta_: check the some of the obvious settings in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[08:02] <marandi> hi guys , i want to a command ( related to postgres ) work in background so i close ssh connection in ubuntu , how can i do that ?
[08:02] <somsip> marandi: run it in screen on the remote server?
[08:02] <llutz_> marandi: use nohup
[08:03] <llutz_> marandi: use nohup / disown
[08:05] <marandi> llutz_: i used disown , i mean i run my command ( like find / ) and then i press CTRL+Z , the disown -h and exit ( that what my friend told me ) but how can i check if the command still ran or when its gonna finished ?
[08:05] <adknight87> Jump in the line
[08:05] <hkBst> I removed libunity-webapps and deps which included unity-desktop. How do I get them back?
[08:06] <adknight87> apt-get install unity
[08:07] <hkBst> adknight87: seems plausible, thanks
[08:09] <llutz_> marandi: check processlist
[08:12] <phako> hi
[08:12] <MrSolitaryReaper> Hi all
[08:13] <phako> ppa question: I've dput a few packages, then realized that I didn't update launchpad with my new GPG key. Did that now. dput refuses to re-upload the packages, will the ppa accept the package automatically or do I have to upload a new version?
[08:14] <MrSolitaryReaper> I have got some serious problem with my nvidia onboard graphics
[08:14] <MrSolitaryReaper> anyone there?
[08:15] <dysun_> hi all
[08:18] <Valtam> is it safe to delete all the contents of the folder .rpmdb in ~/ ?
[08:19] <sispro> test
[08:19] <somsip> !test | sispro
[08:21] <phako> ah. need to re-upload.
[08:21] <phako> can I specify another ppa as a build-time dependency only?
[08:22] <greencat> wow
[08:22] <SuperJ> hello
[08:22] <greencat> hello
[08:24] <greencat> noone here
[08:25] <banned> hi
[08:25] <greencat> hi
[08:25] <banned> !list
[08:26] <greencat> i am looking for a channel to chatter
[08:26] <llutz_> !ot | greencat
[08:33] <yuvraj23> hi
[08:34] <yuvraj23> Anyone there?
[08:42] <biopyte> hi, sometimes i  notice strong but unexpected harddrive activity. is there a tool to monitor what process is reading/writing the drive?
[08:42] <llutz_> !info iotop | biopyte:
[08:43] <biopyte> ok, thank you
[08:44] <ms_> almoxarife, are you still there?? thank you that my shut down button is now working, :) but I can't change my background yet.
[08:44] <rschu68_>  /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[08:45] <rschu68_>  /ignore -channels * * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[08:45] <rschu68_>  /ignore * * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[08:46] <almoxarife> ms_: not sure how that is done on your wm
[08:46] <llutz_> rschu68_: no leading space in front of the slash /
[08:46] <alumno> vbtyg
[08:46] <ms_> almoxarife, what is wm?
[08:47] <Kartagis> cough coughwindow managercough cough
[08:47] <alumno> ollaaaaaaa
[08:48] <ms_> Kartagis, ahahahahaha. ok :)
[08:48] <alumno> ok
[08:48] <almoxarife> ms_: your windows manager, xfce?
[08:48] <alumno> wat
[08:48] <Kartagis> what? I was just coughing
[08:49] <llutz_> window manager, no "s" </nitpick>
[08:49] <ms_> almoxarife, aghhh, wm and wm tweaks are not activated.
[08:51] <almoxarife>  mayonaise, spell check please
[08:52] <ms_> almoxarife, window manager and window manager tweaks are not activated!!!
[08:54] <almoxarife> ms_: sounds complicated, i would get an easier WM, like KDE
[08:55] <alumno_> vbuhio
[08:56] <alumno_> ola carra pedo
[08:56] <ms_> almoxarife, ok, doesn't matter I'll do my own research, but....
[08:56] <Ray2> I am booted to Ubuntu-10.04...Iwant to
[08:56] <alumno_> gilipollas
[08:57] <Kartagis> heh. I edited /etc/sudoers and it seems I made a typo there, now I can't sudo. what to do?
[08:57] <ms_> almoxarife, how to run a command when I open my desktop???
[08:57] <Flannel> Kartagis: You'll need to reboot into the recovery console and fix it.  In the future, use visudo to edit sudoers, because it's designed for his (it does syntax checking prior to saving, so this doesn't happen)
[08:58] <llutz_> Kartagis: you can't use sudo now? use recovery-mode/a live-cd and fix
[08:58] <almoxarife> ms_: tried alt-f2?
[08:58] <ms_> for example, how to run "metacity" when I just open my desktop?
[08:58] <ms_> almoxarife, I'm on xubuntu, and alt-f2 do nothing! :(
[08:59] <almoxarife> ms_: open a terminal, use terminal?
[08:59] <alumno_> im the best omn the earl
[08:59] <ms_> almoxarife, and?
[08:59] <llutz_> alumno_:  Do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[08:59] <almoxarife> ms_: and what?
[08:59] <Kartagis> brb then, thanks Flannel and llutz_
[09:00] <alumno_> tu putiing mum,
[09:00] <ms_> almoxarife, how to run "metacity" as default when I just open my desktop??
[09:01] <almoxarife> llutz_: he is using profanity in portuguese slang
[09:01] <almoxarife> llutz_: he is using profanity in portuguese slang, alumno_
[09:01] <llutz_> almoxarife: i thought so
[09:01] <llutz_> !ops | alumno_
[09:01] <alumno_> me nu6jmnujn76yhnrtggvcr4l,
[09:02] <almoxarife> ms_: you need to ask questions without my nick, thnks
[09:02] <Abhijit> hello. which one should I get for software and android development point of view? 12.10 or 12.04
[09:02] <Abhijit> help
[09:03] <alumno_> n
[09:03] <ms_> almoxarife, ok. ok.
[09:03] <alumno_> me hablais en español
[09:03] <ms_> help, help.   how to run "metacity" by default when I just open my desktop??
[09:04] <Ray2> I am booted to Ubuntu-10.04...I want to edit a file in Mageia2..I open menu>places>home folder>Mageia2 (mounts) I get a window with the header Mageia file browser the file is in /opt/Moneydance/Moneydance...but it open the file that is in Ubuntu instead of Mageia
[09:05] <alvesjnr> hi all. I'm using ubuntu 12.04 and I'm trying to upgrade it to 12.10, following this guide: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[09:06] <erkon> man do not 12.04 is LTS it is better I think
[09:06] <msx> alvesjnr: forget any stupid guide
[09:06] <alvesjnr> but on step 2 that box ""new ubuntu release" doesn't appears in my computer
[09:06] <Abhijit> alvesjnr, change the setting in update to show all next release instead of only next lts release
[09:07] <dcherniv> alvesjnr, LTS releases do not upgrade to the next release
[09:07] <msx> alvesjnr: just open a terminal and issue: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apg-get dist-upgrade
[09:07] <Abhijit> dcherniv, they can
[09:07] <llutz_> msx: which won't do a version-upgrade, fail
[09:07] <alumno__> mk
[09:07] <erkon> Could anyone help me to find out why I can not install any old ubuntu releases with netinstall?
[09:07] <dcherniv> alvesjnr, not by default, alvesjnr see above what Abhijit said
[09:07] <msx> dcherniv: you can force to upgrade any lts to the next release available if you want, i already did that with my 12.04 server to the .10
[09:07] <MonkeyDust> erkon  because they are eol, could be one reason
[09:08] <erkon> I see that old mini CD are available to download, but when I try to them I do not get installer
[09:08] <alumno__> ME VAIS  COMER EL RABO ESTRANGEROS DE MIOERDA LOS PUTOS CHHEFACH
[09:08] <alvesjnr> thanks all
[09:08] <erkon> what is eol?
[09:08] <dcherniv> erkon, servers are probably offline.
[09:08] <dcherniv> erkon, end of life
[09:08] <Abhijit> hello. which one should I get for software and android development point of view? 12.10 or 12.04
[09:08] <msx> llutz_: suck me, i didn't complete my explanation
[09:08] <MonkeyDust> erkon  end of life, dead, no longer available
[09:08] <alumno__> HELLO RTU PUTA MADRE
[09:08] <msx> llutz_: fail on you :D
[09:08] <Abhijit> !eol | erkon
[09:08] <erkon> are you sure that it not possible to install old releases with netinstall
[09:09] <Abhijit> which one is better guys? 12.10 or 12.04?
[09:09] <MonkeyDust> erkon  now you know why
[09:09] <erkon> I check the archives there are directories on them  with the old ubuntus
[09:09] <iceroot> Abhijit: both a fine
[09:09] <vlt> Hello. I’m using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Often when I open an e-mail in my mail client Thunderbird 16.0.2 that it fetched from my IMAP account the attachments (like JPEG files) are only shown partially. How can I prevent this?
[09:09] <dcherniv> Abhijit, if you're want to do active development i wouldnt go with ubuntu in the first place
[09:09] <iceroot> dcherniv: why?
[09:10] <Abhijit> iceroot, ok i want to use it for heavy development
[09:10] <msx> alvesjnr: nevermind, then issue 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d'
[09:10] <Abhijit> dcherniv, 12.10 and 12.04 are ubuntus only
[09:10] <almoxarife> erkon: if you really want to you should be able to install what ever release, as long as the archive is still alive
[09:10] <iceroot> Abhijit: and what is "heavy development"?
[09:10] <alumno> jq pasa chatiras y chatiros
[09:10] <Abhijit> dcherniv, sorry did not read the not. then what should i use?
[09:10] <alumno> olaaaaaa
[09:10] <Abhijit> iceroot, web, software and andorid
[09:10] <dcherniv> iceroot, i just prefer a source-based distro for development
[09:10] <Abhijit> development
[09:10] <alumno> efhyegbvrrw5ghbrñotnhghbvnwrejighiu
[09:10] <alumno> 4rhgrtvhgbgbkjg
[09:10] <msx> alumno: haha, puto troll!
[09:10] <alumno>   ihbhplñohujootyolk frdsreffdr
[09:10] <msx> xD
[09:11] <alumno> q dices
[09:11] <iceroot> Abhijit: every linux distribution can do that
[09:11] <alumno> q se donde vivesssss
[09:11] <alumno>  troll tu
[09:11] <msx> alumno: hahahah
[09:11] <iceroot> dcherniv: and we prefer a not rolling release which is stable
[09:11] <alumno> pos te reviento
[09:11] <Abhijit> iceroot, not every. the oscommerce is not working on opensuse. it works on ubuntu though
[09:11] <dcherniv> Abhijit, ubuntu is fine, 12.10 is probably better since its got more recent packages
[09:11] <msx> alumno: you should talk english here bro,
[09:11] <alumno> q vdicessss
[09:11] <Abhijit> dcherniv, ok
[09:12] <alumno> do you like pistolitas
[09:12] <dcherniv> iceroot, good choice too
[09:12] <erkon> almoxarife: well it looks like 10.04 is not dead, but netinstaller does not download any installer components
[09:12] <msx> alumno:    alumno | q se donde vivesssss xD jaja que risa
[09:12] <erkon> I tried with 8.04, same thing
[09:12] <erkon> I tried with 12.04 and it works
[09:12] <iceroot> Abhijit: for a stable system with a long term support i would suggest to use 12.04
[09:12] <iceroot> Abhijit: but 12.10 is fine too, so its your choice
[09:13] <Abhijit> iceroot, ok
[09:13] <alumno> ok me da
[09:13] <Abhijit> iceroot, the lts dont get latest packes over time i noticed.
[09:13] <iceroot> Abhijit: i am fine with my 12.04 here asa production system
[09:13] <alumno> me da igualllll
[09:13] <iceroot> Abhijit: the same for 12.10
[09:13] <cabra> ,ll,t,lrffffff
[09:13] <alumno_> como te llamas ?
[09:13] <alumno> bhjvvbjkfsgvfdjhbvdfbv
[09:13] <alumno> vuzhsfrgv
[09:13] <alumno> asjnvjarfg
[09:13] <alumno> grnfgbv
[09:13] <MonkeyDust> erkon  we explained why taht is, 8.04 is no longer supported, use something more recent
[09:13] <FloodBot1> alumno: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:13] <alumno> rgjan
[09:13] <alumno> granv
[09:13] <rschu68_>  /ignore *  JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[09:13] <Abhijit> iceroot, ok
[09:13] <cabra> qe dices puton
[09:13] <iceroot> Abhijit: a released ubuntu version will NEVER get newer software (some exceptions like firefox, thunderbird, libreoffice)
[09:13] <alumno_> Q es esto?
[09:13] <cabra> ujdfjfdjkfdjkfdjfejevujdfhreierohierhiorehifjkkfjddfioijoiojeiohiojeioheioeioerhioerhioioeri´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´fh<j
[09:13] <iceroot> Abhijit: only security and bug fixes
[09:14] <alumno_> no se entiende nada
[09:14] <alumno_> asdfghjkl
[09:14] <alumno_> nused fiksjf
[09:14] <llutz_> !ops | alumno_ troll, spam, bad language,
[09:14] <iceroot> Abhijit: stop it please, we told you to speak english
[09:14] <cabra> joni la gente esta mui loca tio
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> the channel is under attack
[09:14] <erkon> MonkeyDust: 10.04 does not download too
[09:14] <Abhijit> iceroot, ok but latest ppa are also available to newer versions and not to lts i think. so i decided to get 12.10
[09:14] <erkon> MonkeyDust: 10.04 does not download either
[09:14] <iceroot> Abhijit: ppas are also available for the lts versions, there is no difference
[09:14] <erkon> 10.04 I think is not dead
[09:15] <iceroot> Abhijit: but 12.10 is fine
[09:15] <Abhijit> ok
[09:15] <MonkeyDust> erkon  yeah, try something more recent, now stop about it, please
[09:15] <iceroot> erkon: its not dead, its still supported
[09:15] <msx> llutz_: aww come on, don't be sheriff, alumno_ is just a lovely troll :(
[09:15] <nowayride> 10.04 server is supported for a few more years, but isn't desktop EOL soon?
[09:15] <praveenmarkandu> hi
[09:16] <iceroot> nowayride: desktop is eol with 13.04 release
[09:16] <llutz_> msx: trolls are never "lovely"
[09:16] <iceroot> nowayride: server with 15.04 release
[09:16] <praveenmarkandu> after stepping away from my computer
[09:16] <praveenmarkandu> my wireless diesconnects sayinng authetication required
[09:16] <nowayride> iceroot: yeah.. that was it
[09:16] <praveenmarkandu> is some sort of aggressive power management happening
[09:16] <praveenmarkandu> how do i stop it
[09:16] <praveenmarkandu> using a bcm 4312
[09:16] <praveenmarkandu> i use bw43 and it seems to work fine, when im at the computer
[09:16] <msx> llutz_: wrong, they are allways lovely, specially because they make nervous the so called lawful correct people >:D
[09:17] <erkon> It does not make any sense to keep old mini CD on the minimal install web site  if only the newest one works.This is ridiculous. Ubuntu should write this on it web site
[09:17] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: you mean it happens when idle?
[09:17] <iceroot> erkon: the netinstall is of course still working for all older releases which are still supported
[09:17] <bamboos> any experiance with eGalax drivers?
[09:17] <llutz_> msx: drop it, i'm too old to waste my time/bandwidth with those infantile idi.ts
[09:17] <iceroot> erkon: netinstall is not only for the latest release
[09:18] <erkon> iceroot: well I tried all of them at least 3 and then DO NOT WORK
[09:18] <erkon> only 12.04
[09:18] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: yeah
[09:18] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: seems like it. weird
[09:18] <msx> llutz_: you're too old to have a good laugh too, i'm trolling you dude ;)
[09:18] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: your work-station disconnects or the provider?
[09:18] <iceroot> erkon: and 12.04 is not the latest release
[09:18] <erkon> latest LTS
[09:19] <iceroot> erkon: so its incorrect to say only the latest release is working
[09:19] <erkon> latest type of release
[09:19] <erkon> ok
[09:19] <iceroot> erkon: then there is another problem
[09:19] <iceroot> erkon: e.g. the netinstaller for 10.04 is connecting to the 10.04 repos
[09:19] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: workstation. other laptops around the office have wifi functioning. so its not the AP
[09:19] <iceroot> erkon: and they are still up
[09:20] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: you have some sort of power-savings set?
[09:21] <msx> praveenmarkandu: don't you mis-set the wifi using powertop, don't you?
[09:21] <erkon> iceroot: is there a way to fix it
[09:21] <erkon> I'm sure that if you try with virtual machine you will see that it does not work with 10.04 LTS for example
[09:21] <iceroot> erkon: let me check
[09:22] <iceroot> !mini
[09:22] <iceroot> erkon: i will use this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[09:23] <erkon> yes I tried with that one
[09:24] <praveenmarkandu> almoxarife: not really.
[09:24] <praveenmarkandu> msx: huh?
[09:24] <praveenmarkandu> my power settings are fairlyy standard. in fact when my laptop is plugged into power (which it is now) it doesnt suspend or anything
[09:25] <erkon> iceroot: go with command line expert install,
[09:25] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: look at /var/log/syslog
[09:25] <almoxarife> praveenmarkandu: see if anything is obvious
[09:25] <erkon> and check if installer can download its components. This is where I fail.
[09:25] <rschu68_>  /ignore *  JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[09:26] <rschu68_>  /ignore *  JOINS PARTS QUIT NICKS
[09:26] <rschu68_>  /ignore *  JOIN PARTS QUIT NICKS
[09:26] <iceroot> erkon: hm, at the moment the installer is doing nothing after selecting the mirror
[09:26] <erkon> see
[09:26] <erkon> I told you
[09:26] <erkon> it is the same with me
[09:26] <erkon> check with 12.04 and it will work
[09:26] <blackshirt> hello, can i ask about lxc here ?
[09:26] <erkon> I do nto know why is that
[09:27] <iceroot> erkon: the repo is still up http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/
[09:27] <erkon> in debug logs I see that two packages are missing
[09:27] <iceroot> erkon: could you send me that log?
[09:27] <iceroot> !paste | erkon
[09:28] <erkon> libc6-udeb and libnewt0.52
[09:28] <iceroot> erkon: i will create a bug on launchpad
[09:28] <erkon> you can get it in the installer
[09:28] <erkon> go to save debug logs
[09:28] <iceroot> erkon: i started the normal installer
[09:28] <iceroot> erkon: but ok i will do later today
[09:28] <erkon> or open them in /var/log
[09:29] <iceroot> erkon: but as i said, its a bug and not "only the last lts is designed to work with netinstall"
[09:29] <erkon> in the virtual machine with command line network installer you could execute a shell or make a web server to check the logs in save logs option on the menu
[09:30] <iceroot> erkon: i know how to do it, thx
[09:30] <erkon> ok thank you iceroot
[09:30] <iceroot> erkon: i am just busy at the moment to restart the installation
[09:30] <kazagistar> how do I get the unix sort command to sort by ascii or unicode order, and not just ignore glyphs?
[09:30] <erkon> I hope they will fix the bug
[09:31] <vlt> Hello. I’m using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Often when I open an e-mail fetched from my IMAP account in my mail client Thunderbird 16.0.2 the attachments (like JPEG files) are only shown partially. How can I prevent this?
[09:35] <CoJaBo> has anyone noticed this yet?
[09:35] <CoJaBo> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[09:35] <CoJaBo> >_>
[09:35] <blackshirt> hello, can i ask about lxc here ?
[09:35] <worm> oh, that is a link.
[09:35] <worm> CoJaBo: ubuntu is a link to the folder itself.
[09:36] <CoJaBo> I found it on thedailywtf lol
[09:37] <CoJaBo> sum1 dun goofed xD
[09:38] <CoJaBo> (apperently, its replicated to every mirror like that)
[09:38] <Guest50425> what is it?
[09:38] <CoJaBo> ?
[09:38] <almoxarife> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/ <-- finally gets to the distros
[09:39] <almoxarife> if there is a logical reason for that i dont see it
[09:40] <CoJaBo> almoxarife: Someone symlinked the directory to itself; I actually did something vaguely similar just this week >_>
[09:40] <CoJaBo> Never, ever do: grep -r 'something' /somedir > /somedir/somefile
[09:41] <CoJaBo> The resulting 1.6TB file took a nearly an hour to delete
[09:41] <marienz> teehee
[09:41] <CoJaBo> "OMFG how is this disk full already!?"
[09:43] <dcherniv> CoJaBo, haha
[09:44] <almoxarife> btw, its not just the NL mirror that will do that, i bet they all do
[09:44] <CoJaBo> Yeh, it was done on the master
[09:44] <CoJaBo> Ubuntuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
[09:47] <Guest35265> just installed ubuntu, it was fine at first, but when i updated the software, it developed some weird video display problem, with lines across the screen. lspci says my hardware is: [AMD] nee ATI BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6530D]
[09:47] <Guest35265> can anyone advise me how to undo or fix it?
[09:51] <fagel> I've installed gnome-shell pacakge. Trying to boot it I get no top menu or anything. However launching a terminal and typing "gnome-shell replace" gets me the menu's. Any ideas how to fix this?
[09:53] <Ray2> Ubuntu-10.04..on sda1...I have a file that is on sda1 and also on sdb5...when I mount sdb5 and try to open file from /opt/filename it open file from sda1
[09:54] <ptihiy> Hi! I configured VPS on Ubuntu for Drupal... Only one question remained... I need FTP. What do you recommend?
[09:56] <kerozene> I recommend avoid FTP
[09:57] <kerozene> and use sftp instead
[09:57] <Kartagis> kerozene: I'd be interested to know why
[09:57] <ptihiy> but it can load modules with ftp and also I want to load pictures and so on
[09:58] <kerozene> Kartagis: because only 3 things are certain in life: death, taxes and ftpd exploits
[09:58] <dcherniv> ptihiy, drupal supports webdav
[09:58] <ptihiy> I am trying to install proftpd, but every time I install in hangs dpkg
[09:58] <dcherniv> ptihiy, ftp should be last resort to use with web apps
[09:58] <ptihiy> *it
[09:59] <dcherniv> ptihiy, if you just need to upload/manage files to your server use sftp like kerozene said
[10:01] <ptihiy> dcherniv: dcherniv: thanks. what package I should use?
[10:01] <rschu68_> IGNORE -l
[10:01] <dcherniv> ptihiy, for sftp openssh-server
[10:02] <ptihiy> dcherniv: thanks!!
[10:04] <tziOm> What is the correct location for proc mount options in ubuntu? seems fstab is not read at system boot,  only on a remount for example.
[10:05] <solo_> hello
[10:06] <Ray2> Ubuntu-10.04..on sda1...I have a file that is on sda1 and also on sdb5...when I mount sdb5 and try to open file from /opt/filename it open file from sda1
[10:07] <dcherniv> Ray2, is the file on sdb5 a symlink?
[10:07] <dcherniv> Ray2, ls -l filename
[10:08] <blackshirt> , i have a problem, when i start linux container, this my output, http://paste.debian.net/211466/  ...... but not bring me get a console login, is this normal ??/ but i can connect throught lxc-console, this my output when connect http://paste.debian.net/211469/ .....
[10:09] <Ray2> dcherniv, no both files are seperate but also both under /opt...The file name is Moneydance one is a .deb the other is a rpm
[10:10] <ptihiy> please, help with one more question. proftpd always locks package manager when I try to install it. this time it did it also. when I am trying dpkg --configure -a, it tries to finish proftpd install and hangs again. what should I print so it didn't try to finish install and just remove it?
[10:13] <XRS1> how do i grant root privilege to user for SSH?
[10:15] <kerozene> XRS1: check out visudo
[10:15] <XRS1> aww i gotta vi stuff?
[10:15] <kerozene> depends
[10:15] <XRS1> using openssh
[10:16] <kerozene> doesn't really involve openssh
[10:18] <kerozene> XRS1: google 'export editor' if you don't like vi
[10:19] <nwillems> Hi there. I'm trying to secure a ubuntu server, and I'm wondering, with regards to security is it better to run SSH through xinetd or just standalone
[10:19] <Zumochi> Good day, I am unable to boot into a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10, all I get is a blinking cursor. I don't even see GRUB nor can I force into it holding SHIFT
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> XRS1  sudo -e [file] opens it with nano
[10:19] <dcherniv> nwillems, xinetd is pretty much all but deprecated
[10:19] <dcherniv> nwillems, so stand-alone
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset > Zumochi try this
[10:20] <XRS1> Zumochi,  download a new iso and make it again
[10:20] <nwillems> dcherniv: Oh, maybe the wiki should be updated then.
[10:20] <nwillems> dcherniv: But thanks.
[10:20] <XRS1> i find linux live USB creator to work a little better than universal USB installer or unetbootin
[10:21] <Zumochi> Okay, I'll try that.
[10:21] <XRS1> its a win app
[10:21] <Zumochi> Do I have to reinstall again, though?
[10:21] <XRS1> oh no
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> Zumochi  did you read what ubottu says?
[10:21] <Zumochi> I did
[10:22] <XRS1> i thought it wasnt booting the pendrive.  try booting the pendrive again and re-install grub
[10:24] <buddy> hey yall
[10:25] <ptihiy> Please help with dpkg) If dpkg crashed while installing package and after I reboot and wrote dpkg --configure -a it tries to install it again. how can I cancel it?
[10:26] <wica_> Hi, I wanne build qemu 1.3 from source. But how do I find out the build specs and option from the 1.2 packages?
[10:27] <blackshirt> ptihiy: wait for end
[10:27] <buddy> Can anyonehelp me out with getting my intel graphics card runing?
[10:27] <Guest30432> How to add format option by defaylt in ubuntu when i insert a pendrive
[10:29] <ptihiy> blackshirt: it doesnt end. proftpd just locks install process... I even waited three hours... nothing happened
[10:29] <ptihiy> *i'm trying to install proftpd so to say
[10:30] <blackshirt> ptihiy: can you paste full your output ?
[10:31] <wica> nevermind, I have found it
[10:34] <buddy> does someone know why the command "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:glasen/intel-driver" won't work?
[10:35] <Guest30432> Hello Buddy Please give the Error !
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> buddy  maybe the ppa no longer exists
[10:35] <buddy> it says command not found
[10:35] <buddy> i got ubuntu 8.04
[10:36] <Guest30432> buddy:  Why 8.04?
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> buddy  see, 8.04 is no longer maintained, it's called !eol
[10:36] <juniour> buddy upgrade 8.04 EOF
[10:37] <buddy> laptop ain't fast enough for a higher version i suppose, but it's the LTS version
[10:37] <Guest30432> buddy:  What About your Ram Processor?
[10:38] <buddy> ram is 512MB and processor is a intel celeron 1,5GHz
[10:38] <DJones> buddy: According to the package info, the ppa is only for 10.04 onwards
[10:38] <Guest30432> buddy:  I am not confirm but you can use ubuntu 10.10
[10:38] <Guest30432> buddy:  I am not confirm but you can use ubuntu 10.4
[10:39] <buddy> but why does it tell me the command doesn't even work?
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> buddy  in short: what you are using is too old
[10:39] <buddy> lol monkey
[10:39] <Guest30432> Monkey :P
[10:40] <juniour> buddy upgrade little
[10:40] <juniour> :)
[10:40] <Guest30432> Juniour :P
[10:40] <DJones> buddy: Have you tried a different desktop? I've got a machine with xfce which only has 512mb ram and that seems to run ok (I only use it occasionaly though)
[10:41] <DJones> !xfce | buddy
[10:41] <ewook> buddy: you are good for the maintained LTS'es with 512mb ram and 1,5Ghz celeron.
[10:41] <ewook> buddy: and yes - xfce is the thing you wanna look at ;).
[10:41] <ewook> DJones: nice timing ;)
[10:41] <root_____> hai, whats the newest kernel available ? 3.6 ?
[10:42] <buddy> damn guys, thank you so much
[10:42] <Guest30432> root_____: Check on Kernel Web
[10:42] <worm> root_____: How about have a look at http://www.kernel.org
[10:42] <buddy> i'm gonna upgrade to 10.10 and then get the Xfce desktop
[10:42] <buddy> let's see how it works ^
[10:42] <buddy> xD
[10:42] <ewook> buddy: I'd say 10.04, or 12.04.
[10:42] <root_____> i mean, on ubuntu, i wanna try ubuntu ( /me's coming from debian)
[10:42] <ewook> !10.10
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> buddy  not 10.10, it's too old, too
[10:43] <ewook> buddy: 10.10 is EOL'ed as well.
[10:43] <ewook> !10.04 | Buddy
[10:44] <ewook> root_____: in repo or generic?
[10:45] <buddy> i see, ust checked, it says version 10.04.3 is available to upgrade
[10:45] <nwillems> I've been poking around for security tips for a while. And I remeber hitting a page describing several tuning parameters for networking, can anyone point me to a page like the one? Or maybe just a good starting point for security hardening?
[10:45] <buddy> which is also a LTS version
[10:46] <ewook> buddy: correct.
[10:46] <buddy> well then, thank ya guys :)
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> buddy  yes, until april, that's 5 months from now, after that you'll have to upgrade again
[10:47] <ewook> nwillems: generic, or for a specific release?
[10:47] <{xmb}> is there a lightier download than +700mb cds ?
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> {xmb}  there's !mini
[10:48] <{xmb}> !mini
[10:48] <{xmb}> merci =)
[10:48] <arnsa> Hello, today I tried to start my ubuntu, but it wouldn't start. After selecting Ubuntu in GRUB it boots and then I can only see black screen with a mouse cursor which I can't move. Any ideas how to fix it?
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset > arnsa try this
[10:49] <Guest30432> arnsa: I think you have not enough space left in / . Just check it
[10:49] <juniour> harnsa may be due to additional drivers
[10:49] <arnsa> Guest30432 yes I do..
[10:50] <Guest30432> arnsa: Have space ?
[10:50] <arnsa> MonkeyDust I didn't really understand what you want to say
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | arnsa try these instructions
[10:52] <juniour> arnsa i told you i thin k its due to additional drivers ie graphic
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> arnsa  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 <-- open this link
[10:52] <arnsa> MonkeyDust dude stop spamming me the same message
[10:52] <arnsa> juniour but you didn't say how to fix it
[10:52] <minas> My CPU seems to be running at 100%. When I run the top command, there's a process named "evolution-calen" that's at 100%. I have no open program like that. What is that process?
[10:52] <Guest30432> minas: Duid you checked ppid?
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> arnsa  you asked me to repeat, so i did, ubottu explains how to solve the black screen issue
[10:53] <minas> GUest30432: It's 2121. And the "user" is lightdm
[10:53] <OerHeks> arnsa, monkeydust is right, try the nomodeset option as described in that link
[10:53] <juniour> arsna boot i safe mode
[10:54] <Guest30432> minas: tried killing process?
[10:54] <arnsa> OerHeks but why it stoped working exactly today? Why everything was fine the days before?
[10:54] <juniour> arsna any trt the instruction given by monkeydust
[10:55] <minas> Guest30432: i just did. It's better now. By the way the path of it was "/usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory"
[10:55] <arnsa> I don't even know where can I set that acpi_osi=...
[10:55] <minas> any idea what that is?
[10:57] <arnsa> OerHeks but why it stoped working exactly today? Why everything was fine the days before?
[10:58] <nwillems> ewook: I'm thinking something generic would go into more detail, but I'm running 12.10 and could use a specific guide and then expand on that.
[10:58] <OerHeks> arnsa, what did you do before this occured? did you update? or did you install additinal drivers?
[10:58] <OerHeks> c/additional
[10:59] <Heather_> could somebody explain the difference between parity and mirroring drives when creating raid?
[11:00] <shantorn> i have xubuntu 12.10 installed but the monitor isnt identified correctly and i need to manualy put its specs in, in previous versions i had to edit the xorg.conf file but can not find it in 12.10, could someone point me in hte right direction please?
[11:00] <inner_peace> hello is there is some one deal with Zimbra mail server ??
[11:01] <OerHeks> Heather_, mirror is just a exact copy on a 2nd drive, parity is an index where parts of the blocks of data are stored on 3 drives ore more
[11:03] <epic_> yes inner-peace
[11:04] <shantorn> xorg manual monitor specs
[11:07] <Heather_> OerHeks so parity is good for increasing perfomance? since three or more discs work to store the information one disc would otherwise do itself?
[11:08] <OerHeks> Heather, parity is an index,  if one drive fails, parity can recreate the drive
[11:08] <Heather_> oh okay
[11:08] <OerHeks> so that would be raid 5, if i recall correct.
[11:09] <Heather_> yes but raid10 is also nice since it uses mirroring and striping. Discs dont cost that much nowdays
[11:15] <phasma> greetings, all. I come here hoping that somebody has experience getting the sis671/771 working properly
[11:17] <Zumochi> Hello again, I tried to re-install Ubuntu 11.10 with the "nomodeset" parameter, however I am still having the same problem.
[11:18] <inner_peace> epic , do you setup  and installation it
[11:20] <Abhijit> hi
[11:20] <Abhijit> is there any gui way to setup lvm in ubuntu installation disk?
[11:21] <ikonia> Abhijit: don't know about the current 12.04/12.10 distro, but the alternative CD on the older distros used to support it fine
[11:21] <Abhijit> ikonia, ok
[11:21] <inner_peace> epic , do you there ??
[11:22] <Abhijit> are you*
[11:23] <Abhijit> ikonia, i have existing encrypted lvm created by opensuse. can i just same to install ubuntu?
[11:23] <Abhijit> use*
[11:23] <ikonia> I believe so yes
[11:23] <Abhijit> ok.
[11:23] <ikonia> I don't know if that is supported in the current desktop installer, I'd expect so now
[11:24] <Abhijit> will try it
[11:24] <iceroot> Abhijit: only the alternate which is using a ncurse based gui
[11:24] <iceroot> imo still on 12.10 its only on the alternate
[11:24] <Abhijit> iceroot, whats the name of ncurse gui software?
[11:25] <iceroot> Abhijit: its the normal debian installer which is based on ncurse
[11:25] <Abhijit> ok
[11:25] <iceroot> !alternate | Abhijit
[11:25] <iceroot> hö?
[11:31] <ms_> I just installed program "rar" and it seems that: "unrar x file.rar " isn't working. and shows:"/usr/local/bin/rar: 1: /usr/local/bin/rar: Syntax error: "&" unexpected"
[11:31] <fattabiouni> hai
[11:31] <webfox> Hello folks!
[11:32] <fattabiouni> hai guys
[11:32] <webfox> How do I change my keyboard config please?
[11:32] <vmg3> unrar
[11:33] <masoudd> webfox: you mean Graphically or in console?
[11:33] <webfox> masoudd, console, for Server
[11:34] <masoudd> webfox: what distro is it? just curious
[11:34] <webfox> masoudd, it is a Ubuntu Precise Server
[11:34] <sanav> !ot
[11:35] <masoudd> webfox: umm loadkeys?
[11:35] <masoudd> sanav: oops, I thought I was in #linux
[11:35] <sanav> masoudd: its ok
[11:36] <webfox> masoudd, how do I do it?
[11:36] <masoudd> webfox: like loadkeys uk
[11:37] <Bustacap> What is a good hax0r channel?
[11:38] <iceroot> Bustacap: #school
[11:38] <Bustacap> ..
[11:38] <Bustacap> What is an RPC request o.O
[11:38] <kamidi> Bustacap: Remote Procedure Call. Why?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> what's hax0r?
[11:39] <webfox> masoudd, when I use loadkeys command it whites: unknow charset unicode - igoring charset request
[11:39] <Bustacap> kamidi: I did a nessus scan, and it came back with a lot of things saying that people can hax me with an RPC request :/
[11:40] <masoudd> webfox: what exactly do you want to do? what do you type that gives that error?
[11:40] <milo64> how can i get "suggested packages" of a package that i have already installed?
[11:40] <milo64> apt-get
[11:41] <iceroot> milo64: sudo apt-get install --install-suggests packagename
[11:41] <kamidi> Bustacap: I'm not expert, sorry :( I guess RPC can be used to hack your machine but it's not like open door or anything
[11:41] <milo64> iceroot: i mean, 'show'.
[11:41] <Bustacap> kamidi: I just don't know what rpc is or how to use it to hax me :/
[11:41] <iceroot> milo64: apt-cache show packagename
[11:42] <milo64> ok
[11:42] <iceroot> milo64: and there "Suggests"
[11:42] <iceroot> milo64: like  Suggests: latex-xft-fonts, libthai0, firefox-gnome-support | firefox-kde-support
[11:42] <masoudd> Bustacap: read the wikipedia entry
[11:42] <webfox> masoudd, when I press certain keys the OS doesn' t recognize, and I would like to fix it. When I type loadkeys it shows that message and stops at next line.
[11:42] <milo64> okay iceroot, thax
[11:42] <milo64> s/thax/thanks
[11:43] <kamidi> Bustacap: Me neither, but I think it's basic component on Windows machines; maybe Linux too?
[11:43] <vmg3> webfox: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[11:43] <Bustacap> kamidi: idk? I just figured there's so many people on here so I'd ask here :P
[11:43] <masoudd> webfox: I think you have a non standard keyboard that sends codes beyond ASCII, maybe unicode? I'm not sure tough.
[11:45] <webfox> What type of character set I should use on a Mac keyboard?
[11:46] <Mechdave> webfox, what region are you in?
[11:46] <webfox> America, english
[11:46] <Kartagis> in a nautilus script, how do I copy the returned string to clipboard?
[11:47] <Mechdave> webfox, have a look here --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard
[11:51] <vlt> Hello. I’m using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Often when I open an e-mail fetched from my IMAP account in my mail client Thunderbird 16.0.2 the attachments (like JPEG files) are only shown partially. How can I prevent this?
[11:53] <kamidi> Bustacap: Maybe someone knows more about that than us ;-)
[11:54] <iceroot> vlt: current stable version is 17.0 please update your software first
[11:54] <iceroot> vlt: also have a look at #irc-mozilla.org  #thunderbird
[11:54] <Mechdave> Bustacap, What was your question again?
[11:55] <Kartagis> iceroot: s/\#irc/irc/
[11:55] <iceroot> Kartagis: thx
[11:55] <vlt> iceroot: Thank you.
[11:55] <iceroot> vlt: irc.mozilla.org  #thunderbird
[11:57] <webfox> Mechdave, I am running a MacBook Pro and I think I may have the wrong keyboard layout...
[11:58] <Mechdave> webfox, Doesn't that page tell you how to get the correct keymap. I would have thought the normal US map would do most of the job and then the mods for the aple only keys
[11:59] <ms_> eh oh! why I installed rar and it told me: "bash: /usr/local/bin/unrar: cannot execute binary file" when I do "unrar e file.rar" grrrr
[12:00] <Mechdave> ms_, where did you install rar from?
[12:00] <iceroot> ms_: michael@bestbuntu:~$ which unrar
[12:00] <iceroot> /usr/bin/unrar
[12:00] <iceroot> ms_: please use the unrar from ubuntu and not your installed version, we dont support that version
[12:00] <iceroot> ms_: sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:00] <ms_> Mechdave, iceroot, sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[12:02] <Mechdave> ms_, may be better to purge the unrar you have and install the one from the Ubuntu repository. sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:02] <iceroot> ms_: unrar-free is not installing there
[12:02] <iceroot> ms_: /usr/bin/unrar-free
[12:02] <iceroot> ms_: see also "dpkg -L unrar-free"
[12:03] <iceroot> ms_: so please dont install software by hand, always use the repo-software
[12:09] <alumno> ola
[12:09] <Sniper> quiero a alguien
[12:09] <Sniper> :(
[12:09] <Sniper> soy gay!
[12:10] <Sniper> :D
[12:10] <FloodBot1> Sniper: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:10] <Sniper> xD
[12:10] <alumno> sniper pallasoçvwijvhkuejgahsdrygvuyejhwskd<
[12:10] <alumno> ola pantumacaa
[12:11] <alumno_> la
[12:11] <alumno_> jopa
[12:11] <alumno1> a
[12:12] <kishimi8I> pls where can i downloAD the alternate upgrade cd for 12.10
[12:12] <Sniper080> ola :D
[12:12] <Sniper080> soy gay! :D
[12:12] <yeats> kishimi8I: apparently the alternate installer is no more
[12:13] <Gryllida> What program sets builtin speakers to be automatically muted when I plug the headphones in?
[12:13] <yeats> !alternate | kishimi8I
[12:13] <Sniper080> :P
[12:13] <dagerik> the program pastebinit doesnt work with this input: http://dagerik.fn.is/files/lal.txt Can anyone else confirm?
[12:13] <pantumaka> pelonvho
[12:13] <Sniper080> ola mariogay
[12:13] <kishimi8I> sorry as a noob .. how do i use the live cd to upgrade
[12:13] <pantumaka> kjvngjgjifgmn
[12:14] <yeats> !upgrade | kishimi8I
[12:14] <Sniper080> .-.
[12:14] <Sniper080> pdlojmiqbg1vtr
[12:14] <MAriogay> uhfdcsdnfvu98sdfh
[12:14] <Sniper080> ola
[12:14] <OerHeks> !ops | Sniper080
[12:14] <pantumaka> fgj bjncvb vb
[12:14] <pantumaka> vb
[12:14] <pantumaka> cv
[12:14] <pantumaka> b
[12:14] <pantumaka> cv
[12:14] <pantumaka> bcv
[12:14] <FloodBot1> pantumaka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:14] <Sniper080> puta!
[12:14] <Mechdave> kishimi8I, All you do is put the cd in the drive and select the upgrade option
[12:14] <Sniper080> you don't know scrib?
[12:14] <Sniper080> :D
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> is it vacation in some portugese speaking country? the kids look bored
[12:14] <kroson> Hello, which one is the best tool to customize unity in ubuntu 12.10? Myunity, unsettings, ubuntu tweak or other? Thanks
[12:14] <Sniper080> i'm boing
[12:15] <kishimi8I> thanks would do just that
[12:15] <kroson> Hello, which one is the best tool to customize unity in ubuntu 12.10? Myunity, unsettings, ubuntu tweak or other? Thank you
[12:15] <Sniper080> Bottle Box
[12:15] <Sniper080> ;)
[12:15] <Sniper080> itś funny
[12:15] <Sniper080> :D
[12:15] <kishimi8I> yeats, there used to be alternate upgrade isos for people like me with crappy internet connections
[12:16] <pantumaka> JIFJ
[12:16] <Sniper080> pantumaka..........you arre boriun
[12:16] <Sniper080> osea puta! :D
[12:16] <Sniper080> xD
[12:17] <D_Russ> can anyone tell me why my ubuntu takes forever to recognize my usb mouse and keyboard after a reboot?
[12:17] <D_Russ> takes like 30 seconds
[12:17] <k1l> D_Russ: what means "forever"?
[12:17] <webfox> server
[12:18] <D_Russ> k1l: they are unresponsive for atleast 30 seconds to a minute
[12:18] <k1l> D_Russ: did take a look into the logs, like dmesg and syslog?
[12:18] <yeats> kishimi8I: correct - it has been discontinued
[12:18] <D_Russ> k1l: sorry log checking is beyond my ubuntu experise
[12:18] <vitimiti> o/
[12:18] <kishimi8I> im back .. guys pls which is thelive cd in the http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/ page
[12:18] <dagerik> the program pastebinit doesnt work with this input: http://dagerik.fn.is/files/lal.txt Can anyone else confirm?
[12:19] <k1l> kroson: there is no myunity for 12,10 afaik. go with unsettings
[12:19] <devswap> hi all - whats a good encryption program to encrypt a hard disk in ubuntu - I have used truecrypt before - is this the best?
[12:19] <linuxpunk> its good stuff
[12:19] <k1l> kishimi8I: the desktop image
[12:20] <devswap> linuxpunk: was that for me?
[12:20] <D_Russ> anyone?
[12:20] <kishimi8I> kk .you guys are the best.. will do that .. i hope this one is as good as 10.04
[12:21] <Gryllida> D_Russ: "tail /var/log/dmesg" and "tail /var/log/syslog" - pastebin those two for k1l, please.
[12:22] <D_Russ> thank
[12:22] <D_Russ> s
[12:22] <k1l> D_Russ: in /var/log/ are the logs. maybe there is a hint why its getting delayed.
[12:22] <linuxpunk> yeah have not seen anything better yet
[12:22] <kroson> k1l: Is there much difference between unsettings and ubuntu-tweak?
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> kroson  best way to find out, is by trying both
[12:23] <devswap> linuxpunk: may I pm you?
[12:23] <k1l> kroson: unsettings is untiy related. tweak is more gnome3 related iirc
[12:23] <kishimi8I> linuxpin .. true
[12:24] <kroson> MonkeyDust: gr8, have you done that yourself?
[12:24] <D_Russ> k1l: http://pastebin.com/6aAvf4kz
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> kroson  i don't like/use unity, so no
[12:24] <kroson> MonkeyDust: what do you use btw?
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> kroson  i use ubuntu classic, looks like gnome2
[12:25] <kroson> MonkeyDust: weren't they going to drop gnome fallback?
[12:25] <kroson> the gnome team
[12:25] <D_Russ> k1l: http://pastebin.com/qf1t6xq5
[12:26] <Buntu> Anyone here familiar with GEDIT?
[12:26] <k1l> kroson: they do
[12:26] <AppleJuice> gEdit?
[12:26] <Buntu> Yes
[12:26] <AppleJuice> Can you tell me what you need, Buntu
[12:27] <Buntu> Yes.  I get that different colors mean diferent things for my http/php page  I don't find a color chart anywhere identifying colors.  I see brown and think oh sh*#!
[12:28] <kroson> k1l: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIzMzY
[12:28] <k1l> D_Russ: you are running ubuntu in a vbox?
[12:28] <D_Russ> no
[12:28] <AppleJuice> buntu, I dont think you can see what a color means.
[12:28] <D_Russ> dual boot
[12:29] <Buntu> lol ok well sh*#.  :-)  thanks
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> Buntu  the colors are meant to visually 'group' tags, it does not explain the tags
[12:30] <D_Russ> k1l: no i am dual booting
[12:31] <k1l> D_Russ: the small tails dont show anything related.
[12:31] <Buntu> Ah.  My <script = tag was one color and <? tag was another color even though they were both for the same thing so I thought maybe one was not working.  <? came up brown.  Thanks guys.
[12:31] <D_Russ> ok
[12:35] <k1l> kroson: thx, but this sounds more like they will integrate plugins which mal gnome3 look like gnome2
[12:35] <Relaed> hello
[12:35] <Relaed> Anyone know why anytime I exit the ssh session, access to my website got forbidden ?
[12:36] <abdelkayoum> hi
[12:36] <shinobi_> Is there a way to get xchat is the gnome classic systray?
[12:37] <kroson> k1l: better than nothing i should say :). Do you use unity?
[12:37] <k1l> kroson: yep, im using unity since 11.10 so this doesnt dodge me :)
[12:39] <kroson> k1l: do you use a laptop?
[12:39] <Igor_Kh> Relaed do you use ssh as a tunnel ?
[12:39] <fagel123123> Hi, Running "sudo apt-get upgrade --fix-missing" gives me  "mtxrun --generate failed." How to fix this?
[12:39] <k1l> kroson: 15,4" laptop with a 23" external in twinview
[12:40] <kroson> k1l: is there a way to disable touchpad while writing in ubuntu?
[12:40] <k1l> kroson: yes, in the systemsettings in th mouse and touchpad tab
[12:40] <kroson> k1l: that option doesn't appear in my pc :)
[12:41] <kroson> ive searched there
[12:41] <k1l> 12.10 here
[12:41] <kroson> k1l: same here
[12:42] <k1l> you need to choose the touchpad tab in the settings for mouse and touchpad. and then its the first checkbox
[12:42] <ms_> eh oh, I can't extract from .rar files?
[12:42] <kroson> k1l: yes it was supposed, but that tab isn't appearing to me, which i find rather weird. I think the system isn't detecting my touchpad
[12:43] <k1l> kroson: well, that could be the issue
[12:44] <roger21> hi there, i can't update my ubuntu it get stuck to "(Reading database ... 50%" and then "dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: reading files list for package 'evince': Input/output error" what can i do ?
[12:44] <kroson> k1l: did you need to install any additional package? like gsynaptics
[12:44] <kroson> or something. Or just using default?
[12:44] <Walex2> roger21: that probably means that you have a defect on your hard disk.
[12:45] <k1l> kroson: no, my dell machine worked ootb
[12:45] <Walex2> roger21: check the 'dmesg | less' to see if some disk errors have been reported
[12:45] <k1l> kroson: try lsusb and lspci to see if its recognized
[12:46] <Walex2> w/n
[12:46] <kroson> k1l: no, but it was found by doing "xinput --list"
[12:47] <inner_peace> are any one deal in deep with zimbra mail server ?????
[12:47] <tmba> hi, I find moving windows in Ubuntu 12.10 is more laggy after I upgraded from 12.04, is there anything I can do to make them smooth again?
[12:48] <tarzeau_> tmba: using unity?
[12:48] <tmba> tarzeau_: yes
[12:48] <tarzeau_> more than one screen?
[12:48] <roger21> Walex2, i don't know, can i do a force check/repare defect/blabla ?
[12:48] <tmba> tarzeau_: yes also, 2 screens.
[12:49] <roger21> or something?
[12:49] <tmba> tarzeau_: latest nvidia
[12:49] <tarzeau_> tmba: that's normal i don't have a fix, quit using unity
[12:49] <tarzeau_> mate, window maker, amiwm all work fine here. just not unity
[12:49] <tmba> tarzeau_: normal that its more laggy in 12.10 compared to 12.04?
[12:49] <Walex2> roger21: often you can, but the big question is whether there is indeed a defect. It is likely, but first check the log.
[12:49] <tarzeau_> tmba: yes, and it's even broken in 12.04
[12:49] <blackshirt> !tproxy
[12:49] <blackshirt> !find tproxy
[12:50] <tmba> tarzeau_: yeah I fixed the vblank issue and set the refresh to max in compizconfig in 12.04, and it was beaut
[12:50] <roger21> Walex2, i get quite some "ata1.00: error: { UNC }" could be
[12:50] <tmba> tarzeau_: it seemed to revert back once I upgraded though, and doing the same in compizconfig doesn't help this time
[12:51] <roger21> well i'm not sure what my ata1 is tho, could be the cd (which has nothing in)
[12:52] <phasma> greetings, all. I come here hoping that somebody has experience getting the sis671/771 working properly
[12:52] <dr_willis> S3/SiS stuff is well.. about the worse hardware you can get when it comes to the company supporting linux. ;(
[12:53] <phasma> dr_willis: heh, yeah. It really is :(
[12:53] <dr_willis> phasma:  the askubuntu.com site and the forums - maygive some tips.
[12:53] <dr_willis> the odds of some one in here at any given time having SIS is low. ;) Lucky for us
[12:53] <phasma> dr_willis: been there, tried that. Tried -numerous "solutions" - None have worked so far
[12:54] <phasma> funny thing is that it -is- possible. Mandriva have an sisimedia driver that mostly works
[12:54] <roger21> so er what should i do?
[12:57] <dr_willis> phasma:  potential issue ive seen is that some times  some fix's - if they dont work.. break the other fixs you may try...
[12:58] <phasma> dr_willis: yeah, ditto. It's high time sis released at least -something- - hell, they don't even have an up to date driver for windows, heh
[12:58] <dr_willis> im honestly suprised SiS Even  is still in business
[13:01] <dr_willis> Havent heard much about Matrox lately either.
[13:05] <Relaed> I sorted it out.
[13:05] <dr_willis> I will have to report that the Netflix for Linux PPA package seems to be working very well for me. It just keeps wanting to open on the wrong monitor. ;)
[13:05] <phasma> i guess it's my own fault for buying a budget laptop, but seriously, it's a 256MB chip, you'd think they'd at least make it work, if only with basic functionality
[13:06] <roger21> let start over, i can't update my ubuntu it get stuck to "(Reading database ... 50%" and then "dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: reading files list for package 'evince': Input/output error" what can i do ?
[13:06] <dr_willis> phasma:  been seeing some neat reaviews of the latest Chromebooks hacked to run Ubuntu. ;) if i dident allready have 2 netbooks and a laptop.. id consider one. ;P
[13:06] <phasma> dr_willis: haha, yeah. i was reading about that just a few days ago, too
[13:06] <dr_willis> roger21:  io error imples the filesystem or hardware issues with  the HD. i would start by fscking  the filesystems form a live cd.
[13:07] <phasma> dr_willis: this might interest you: http://www.saurik.com/id/10
[13:09] <roger21> dr_willis, what command do you sudgest ?
[13:09] <dr_willis> !fsck
[13:10] <dr_willis> i always fsck stuff from a live cd.. ;)  just makes things easier
[13:11] <Kartagis> does nautilus accept only bash scripts?
[13:11] <roger21> dr_willis, wher do i see the result of this check?
[13:11] <dr_willis> it will print messages in the termianl
[13:11] <roger21> well i mean with the forcefsck
[13:12] <auronandace> Kartagis: accept in what sense? nautilus is a file manager
[13:12] <dr_willis> http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-checkrepair-fsck-filesystem.html
[13:12] <roger21> (since i have plymooth and stuff blabla)
[13:12] <Kartagis> auronandace: as in "show in context menu"
[13:12] <dr_willis> i fsck from a LIVE CD when i need to.
[13:13] <roger21> dr_willis, ok i just did a forcefsck for now, do you now where i can check the result?
[13:13] <dr_willis> like the factoid says.. it will force a fsck  at the next reboot.. it will print some messages
[13:14] <dr_willis> or from a live cd terminal -   sudo fsck /dev/sdaX or whatever fs i want to check ;)
[13:16] <roger21> well ok, all i saw was the bootsplash thingy
[13:16] <CrAzYWolF> hi all, hey why resolv.conf everytime i reboot i need to add the nsameserver command?
[13:16] <CrAzYWolF> happy thanksgiving btw
[13:17] <auronandace> !resolvconf | CrAzYWolF
[13:17] <Kecskepasztor> hello guys
[13:19] <exiff> Hello hello.
[13:19] <roger21> !apt
[13:19] <roger21> !aptitude
[13:19] <CrAzYWolF> thanks 09:17 < ubottu> CrAzYWolF: resolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage
[13:19] <CrAzYWolF> thanks ubottu let me read up
[13:20] <exiff> I'm having issues with mounting encrypted  ext4 volumes.
[13:20] <dr_willis> roger21:  fscking can be very quick if you are lucky. :) but if the issue keeps happening after you fsck. that would point to some hardware issues with the HD.
[13:21] <exiff> Specifically when i remove then reattaching the device
[13:21] <roger21> dr_willis, i don't seem to have any disk error
[13:21] <dr_willis> the dmesg command should be mentioning errors with the Hard disks also.
[13:22] <exiff> "Error unlocking device"
[13:22] <Kecskepasztor> !debian
[13:23] <Kecskepasztor> !ubuntu
[13:24] <roger21> dr_willis, ok dmesg add somme error after the update try
[13:25] <b4ch> where can I post ubuntu bugs?
[13:25] <DJones> !bug | b4ch
[13:25] <Shinobi_> how do I switch the buttons to the right side?
[13:26] <DJones> !controls | Shinobi_
[13:26] <inner_peace> is zimbra mail server open source or it is owned by vmware
[13:26] <roger21> is there a way to repare the disk or something?
[13:26] <Shinobi_> How do I get xchat in the gnome systray (gnome classic)
[13:27] <dr_willis> theres some extra package in the repos i belive you need Shinobi_
[13:27] <dr_willis> and you may need to whitelist it for the systray to allow it.
[13:28] <dr_willis> ttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-re-enable-notification-area.html
[13:28] <dr_willis> Not sure how up to date that guide is.
[13:29] <Rexter> In Gnome 3 I'd like to customize my Firefox icon, how can it be changed?
[13:29] <dr_willis> Rexter:  one way. make a custome .desktop file that defines your own icon.
[13:30] <Rexter> dr_willis, where would I put that?
[13:30] <Shinobi_> dr_willis: I added xchat-indicator, but it doesn't appear to do anything. Do you know the name of another package? I've googled but it always seems to come up with the aformentioned package.
[13:30] <whathemeow> ok
[13:31] <dr_willis> same location as where firefox.desktop is at for system wide ussage.
[13:31] <Shinobi_> dr_willis: oh, how do i whitelist it?
[13:31] <whathemeow> what app is good for logging data usage  ?
[13:31] <whathemeow> internet data usage
[13:31] <dr_willis> see the url i pasted above Shinobi_ . or search for 'whitelist ubuntu YOURVERSION' - it could be differnt for differnt releases
[13:32] <dr_willis> They did the whitelist/blacklist stuff to try to tone down the whole cluttered systray disaster that was happening. ;)
[13:32] <Shinobi_> dr_willis: thanks. Sorry, forgot to shut off join/part messages and didn't see your other posts.
[13:32] <nwillems> exit
[13:32] <nwillems> Woops
[13:32] <dr_willis> https://launchpad.net/xchat-indicator   just saw this on google also. ;)
[13:32] <dr_willis> !info xchat-indicator
[13:33] <dr_willis> its a plugin it seems. you may need to enable it in xchat settings
[13:33] <ms_> hi folks, an help please. I want to change the users for a program but I don't know where is that program installed,
[13:34] <dr_willis> ms_:   what do you mean by 'change theusers for a program' ?
[13:34] <Rexter> ms_ are you talking about permissions?
[13:34] <dr_willis> !info xchat-otr
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> ms_  try which [program]
[13:35] <ms_> dr_willis, Rexter, MonkeyDust  I already got it, just "whereis myPrg" thanks for your care:)
[13:36]  * dr_willis closes the ticket
[13:36] <dr_willis> ;)
[13:38] <vlt> iceroot: I updated thunderbird to the current version 17.0 but the problem with the cropped (jpeg) attachments still exists (at least for e-mails I already read with the previous version). What can I do now?
[13:40] <vlt> iceroot: The problem also exists when forwarding complete e-mails (even as .eml attachment, not inline).
[13:41] <vlt> iceroot: I ran diff on the two e-mail files in the maildir on the IMAP server. The structure of the forwarded e-mail (including boundary markers) is kept but the attachments are cropped or mangled.
[13:44] <dr_willis> Aha - found a nice menu editor program for 12.10 in a PPA that lets you easially change program icons.
[13:44] <dr_willis> http://www.iloveubuntu.net/versatile-menu-editor-menulibre-1210-adds-support-ubuntu-1210-official-ppa-available
[13:49] <jente> hi, what can I expect from an intel chipset Q35 with onboard graphics (should be GMA 3100) running (l)ubuntu? i am experience some choppy playback when watching videos in fullscreen (1920x1200) and don't know if it is due to the onboard graphics or driver issues
[13:49] <feodor> Hi, what is supposed to show up under "Downloads" in unity's dash home search lens?
[13:49] <feodor> I currently see any file that I create (or open) via nautilus show up there
[13:49] <Heather_> I'm logged in as root user and I try to load a page in php but I get Forbidden You dont have perm... message. Do I have to set permission for root aswell?
[13:50] <feodor> so basically it gives me the same as in "Recent files"... how do I fix this or remove "Downloads" ?
[13:50] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:50] <Heather_> I was not logged in as root nvm
[13:52] <slarty> Since upgrading skype to 4.1.0.20 it is not starting -
[13:52] <slarty>  symbol lookup error: skype: undefined symbol: _ZN17QSslConfiguration12setSslOptionEN4QSsl9SslOptionEb
[13:52] <slarty> Any solutions please?
[14:00] <dr_willis> id say check the forums and askubuntu.com slarty  - its hard for us to support stuff like skype. but someone may have discovered a work around
[14:00] <dr_willis> I use google voice these days. ;)
[14:01] <dr_willis> Heather_:  if you set up groups properly you wont need to be editing  your web server files as root.
[14:03] <iceroot> vlt: i would suggest to use the thunderbird channel
[14:03] <zykes-> we updated /win 347
[14:03] <iceroot> vlt: guess there you will get better support then here because this is "just" general ubuntu support
[14:04] <Marenz> greetings
[14:05] <Marenz> I am trying to build an ubuntu package for my own project. how can I get rid of the "ubuntuX" part in the version when doing dch -i ?
[14:05] <iceroot> Marenz: debian/changelog  that entry there will be the package-version with ubuntu and so on
[14:05] <iceroot> Marenz: that string there is used to create the packagename/version
[14:06] <Marenz> iceroot, well, yes I know, but dch always appends "ubuntuX"  when I do dch -i. can I stop it from doing that?
[14:06] <Marenz> or change the string from "ubuntu" to "build" or so?
[14:06] <Marenz> i tried dch -i --distributor=build
[14:07] <slarty> @dr_willis      thanks for suggestion, I'll look there
[14:07] <jpds> Marenz: -lbuild
[14:08] <Marenz> jpds, ah, I see.. I assume -l instead of -i is to be used
[14:08] <bluegrass> how do i open a .jar
[14:08] <jpds> bluegrass: Unscrew the lid.
[14:08] <iceroot> bluegrass: i guess you want to start it instead of opening it
[14:08] <iceroot> bluegrass: java -jar file.jar
[14:09] <bluegrass> iceroot hee ty but how do i get the javur
[14:09] <bluegrass> to get the .jar
[14:10] <iceroot> bluegrass: ?
[14:10] <bluegrass> howto install java (javur)
[14:11] <nikolas> yhjkl;
[14:11] <iceroot> bluegrass: i dont know what javur ist but to install java "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre"
[14:11] <iceroot> bluegrass: and if you want to develop java-applications use jdk instead of jre
[14:12] <nikolas> xt&
[14:12] <nikolas> чё?
[14:12] <bluegrass> Y THANK U ^^
[14:13] <bux> hi
[14:13] <bux> i would like the outcome of echo $f  | cut -d. -f1 within a variable
[14:13] <bux> http://pastebin.com/9HpiuLJq
[14:14] <bux> and I dunno how to do o
[14:23] <tritonx> my ubuntu install is little messed up , nothing serious but a few annoying bugs. Can I just reinstall over it (without losing my data and prefs )
[14:24] <XRS1> you need to backup your data
[14:24] <AppleJuice> tritonx, You can do that if you have your /home directory on another partition. Have you?
[14:24] <Rexter> Does anyone know if there is a way to see the location of applications that are pined to Docky?
[14:24] <tritonx> no but I could copy it
[14:24] <XRS1> ^ unless /home is elsewhere
[14:25] <tritonx> so everything should be in my /home folder
[14:25] <sioli> what is version ubuntu is best? 12.04 or 12.10?
[14:25] <XRS1> 12.04 is LTS
[14:25] <XRS1> 12.10 is not
[14:25] <sioli> 12.04, this is a best? why?
[14:26] <tritonx> just different
[14:26] <tritonx> none is better
[14:26] <Ubuntuuser> Hi! Can i log what my users do on my ubuntu server?  Like what files they open and edit?
[14:26] <sioli> absolutely,.. all the better..
[14:26] <AppleJuice> tritonx, No, as you dont have /home mounted on a seperate partition.
[14:26] <CrAzYWolF> quick question in the rc.local do i need to add my line below exit 0 or on top of it?
[14:26] <Ubuntuuser> And / Or can i disable their option to go above /home folder?
[14:27] <sioli> the version if kernel  3.2 is stable,do 3,5, economic my laptop.
[14:27] <XRS1> 12.04 = older so you gotta install more updates after installing BUT it will be supported for 2 years.   12.10 is more up to date but not officially supported as long
[14:27] <ccsteale> CrAzYWolF, you will need to place it before the exit 0
[14:27] <tritonx> you can update easily from 12.04 to upward release
[14:27] <CrAzYWolF> ahh thank you ccsteale
[14:28] <tritonx> if you want
[14:28] <CrAzYWolF> let's see if it works now
[14:28] <bluegrass> how do i install the driver for my videocard
[14:28] <Ubuntuuser> Anyone?
[14:29] <ccsteale> bluegrass, what video card are you using? the drivers may be in the ubuntu repo's else you can donwload the binary/soruce from the hardware vendors website
[14:29] <sioli> yeah, is this moment i are use ubuntu 12.04, my laptop,is very faster core i5 6gb ram, is kernel 3,5 its much better.
[14:29] <XRS1> additional drivers or use Ubuntu Software Center for the .deb u get from their website
[14:29] <bluegrass> ccsteale may i perhaps find out through a simple & easy cli command? 83
[14:29] <Rexter> sioli, if you want the latest and greatest, and don't mind upgrading is a couple of years, go with 12.10. If you want stability, and longevity, go with 12.04
[14:29] <sioli> in my case,absolutely.
[14:30] <ccsteale> you can use dmidecode to find out hardware information
[14:30] <XRS1> i personally recommend Ubuntu Studio 12.10  :)
[14:30] <sioli> yeah Rexter,my ubuntu 12,10 this cool,very good.
[14:31] <ccsteale> bluegrass, or you can use lspci which should tell you the vendor name laso
[14:31] <ccsteale> also*
[14:32] <TJ-> bluegrass: "lspci -nn | grep VGA" usually will find it
[14:32] <bluegrass> GeForce 8400 GS
[14:32] <TJ-> !nvidia | bluegrass
[14:33] <Ubuntuuser> Hi! Can i log what my users do on my ubuntu server?  Like what files they open and edit?
[14:33] <Ubuntuuser> And / Or can i disable their option to go above /home folder?
[14:33] <sioli> bluegrass what problem?
[14:34] <bluegrass> sioli i have a videocard and a suspicion that my computer doesn't correctly use it :C
[14:34] <ccsteale> bluegrass, what is the ouput of sudo lshw -C display - specifically line configuration: .....
[14:35] <sioli> ok,i have problem em my desktop pc,core i7 hd 4850(old), in my pc this same problem.
[14:35] <sioli> this module's up..?
[14:36] <bluegrass> configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
[14:37] <ccsteale> is nvidia-current installed? if not install that via apt-get
[14:38] <saber_> hiiiiiiiiiii
[14:41] <p0rk> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a 250GB drive and it went fine. When I reboot, Grub throws errors. When I boot into a live cd or anything else, it doesnt even find the drive.
[14:42] <ccsteale> p0rk, does running fdisk -l or parted -l show anything useful?
[14:42] <p0rk> it shows literally nothing
[14:43] <bluegrass> ty
[14:43] <bluegrass> now wine won't load ;-;
[14:43] <Guest9915> I can't Install ubuntu server edition in a Rack Server, I just Can't i't does not boot to install. what can I do?
[14:43] <ccsteale> p0rk, anything obvious in dmesg?
[14:44] <ccsteale> bluegrass, what error is wine throwing?
[14:44] <ccsteale> Guest9915, What installation medium are you using? when trying to boot up into which ever medium what sort of issues are you having?
[14:44] <bluegrass> waiting for outpot in cli
[14:44] <p0rk> ccsteale, hang on gotta boot back up and check
[14:44] <ccsteale> Guest9915, any error messages you can provide would be greap
[14:45] <p0rk> this is what iget why i try to boot from the hdd: “invalid arch independent ELF magic”
[14:45] <Guest9915> ccsteale, no Just I can't boot the cd to install I already downloades 3 versions of ubuntu, 32 and 64 but it does not boot to install :(
[14:46] <ademone> hi
[14:46] <ademone> does someone know what is the proxy of gr.archive.ubuntu.com?
[14:46] <ccsteale> p0rk, seems like boot config is messed up to be honest, can you mount /dev/sda5 to /mnt and run grub-update or grub-install?
[14:47] <bluegrass> no cli output yet :/
[14:47] <p0rk> ccsteale, thats actually what ive been trying, but when i boot to a livecd or anything else, there are no sd* devices in /dev/
[14:47] <ccsteale> Guest9915, Any for of error messages on the screen, if you aren't getting any error messages whats the output you do see? is your rack server set to boot from cd before HDD or network?
[14:48] <Guest9915> yes
[14:48] <ccsteale> p0rk, is this in a laptop/desktop/server? id advise pulling the drive our and back in and checking what dmesg as to say to see if it picks the drives up and if it does it seems like its going to be a driver issue, most likley no support from the kernel for the drives which is why it drops back to grub shell
[14:48] <Guest9915> ccsteale, yes it's set to boot from cd beforee hhd
[14:49] <Guest9915> ccsteale, do I have to try with USB?
[14:49] <p0rk> ccsteale, ok, ill take a look. i had lost a drive last week nad just tossed in an old 2.5" to tinker with
[14:50] <ccsteale> Guest9915, what ouput do you get from screen or does the server not even get to the point of booting the cd? Can you take a picture of the screen where it fails and send it to me somehow so I can advise, also if your server supports usb booting I would advise doing that rather than cd but thats just a matter of opinion but ubuntu supports both, try usb for time being
[14:52] <Shinobi> Is there a way to default xchat to hide join/part messages?
[14:53] <dv-> anyone know how to turn on antialiasing with the radeon drivers in 12.10?
[14:54] <Guest9915> ccsteale, no the server neve get to the point to boot the cd just start and continue to boot defora the old OS
[14:54] <DJones> Shinobi: I think if you right click on the channel, its an option under the Extra settings
[14:54] <Shinobi> DJones: It's not persistent. Should it be?
[14:54] <bipul> hellow security
[14:55] <DJones> Shinobi: It should be
[14:55] <Shinobi> hmmm
[14:55] <DJones> Shinobi: You have to do each channel individually, I don't think there is a global setting
[14:55] <p0rk> ccsteale, booted into system rescue cd, now i can see the drive at least
[14:55] <Shinobi> ok. thx
[14:55] <p0rk> so i can try mouting and installing grub again
[14:57] <smacktalk> what's a good program for .rar files?
[14:58] <DJones> !rar | smacktalk
[14:58] <a_b0y> when connecting smartphone to computer how do i allow Ubuntu to share its internet connection? thanks
[14:59] <NikP> How can I change my default DESKTOP file handler from nemo to nautilus?
[15:02] <ccsteale> p0rk, let me know how it goes :)
[15:02] <zucaro> hi
[15:02] <ccsteale> Guest9915, disconnect your drive and then try boot from cd? if not force the server to boot from cd that whay it should hang with the error
[15:02] <ccsteale> zucaro, hi
[15:02] <NikP> Has anyone an answer for my question? I don't like it erverytime from startup to kill nemo and start nautilus.
[15:03] <zucaro> hi ccsteale ;)
[15:03] <ccsteale> NikP, do you use it at all? remove it?
[15:04] <zucaro> does anyone have any experience with transmission from the command line. trying to enable the webui from ssh
[15:04] <ccsteale> zucaro, have you installed transmission-deamon?
[15:05] <zucaro> no, only transmission-gtk
[15:05] <NikP> ccsteale: I've tested out to remove it, but when I log in, then I haven't ANY file handler on my desktop. I must start nautilus manually.
[15:05] <zucaro> install the deamon?
[15:06] <arucard> alguien sabe uncanal de xubuntu
[15:06] <ccsteale> yeah, thats what you'll need for the webui - zucaro
[15:06] <ccsteale> NikP, you'll need to add nautils to the default runlevel
[15:06] <ccsteale> NikP, update-rc.d nautils dafaults
[15:06] <ccsteale> that should do the trick
[15:07] <zucaro> ok installed the daemon
[15:07] <NikP> ccsteale: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/nautilus: file does not exist
[15:08] <zucaro> reading man-page
[15:08] <v0lksman> anyone know how to force an ethernet adapter to restart or recheck for link?
[15:08] <v0lksman> ifup ifdown isn't it
[15:08] <ccsteale> zucaro, you'll need to eddit the transmission config file :)
[15:09] <ccsteale> v0lksman, ifdown ifup will work aswell as /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:09] <v0lksman> ccsteale: that doesn't restart the hardware...that just resets the config applied.
[15:09] <NikP> ccsteale: OK, after rebooting the computer it works. Thank you!
[15:09] <a_b0y> when connecting smartphone to computer how do i allow Ubuntu to share its internet connection? thanks
[15:10] <v0lksman> ccsteale: the problem is that the card won't detect link, but there is no reason for it, there is link and the driver works as the primary card is using the exact same driver
[15:10] <arucard> alguien sabe como estraer una memoria de usb en xubuntu
[15:11] <llutz> !es | arucard
[15:11] <speter> hi, can anyone tell me how to supress the skype appindicator from the top panel? Skype-wrapper can do it in 64 bit, but not in 32 bit...
[15:11] <zucaro> ccsteale, after i have installed the daemon how do I enable the webui? start the transmission-remote process?
[15:12] <ccsteale> v0lksman, ahh okay my apologies i misread the query - for the network adapter to pick up the link it will do that automatically and the interface doesnt need restarting, if the drivers enable then and the interface is being picked up it seems more likley to be an issue coming into the nic
[15:13] <ccsteale> zucaro, run the command sudo /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon
[15:13] <ccsteale> zucaro, I would advise running that in a screen session if it is on a headless box but if not then that should be good to go
[15:14] <zucaro> oh i think its working, getting a 403 error now... will google how to add myself to whitelist
[15:14] <ccsteale> zucaro, in the settings.json there is the line rcp-whitelist - add your ip in there :)
[15:14] <ccsteale> zucaro, rpc* sorry
[15:15] <v0lksman> So here's the story:  Lenovo server with 3 NICs, 1 e1000 and 2 igb (i350).  If I build the system and use the e1000 interface during the build the 2 i350 interfaces will never light up with link after the install is complete.  If I use one of the i350 interfaces during the install it stays lit and functional after the install but the other i350 interface won't light up.  The e1000 is fine no matter what.  This behaviour is reproducable.  Any thoug
[15:15] <SunMoonStar> Hi guys. Quick q. I made a .desktop file to launch an application and used xdg-desktop-menu install in the command line to add it to the dash. Now when I go to the dash, it shows up, but it has no name. Just an icon with no name under it. The icon works correctly though. Here's the contents of the .desktop file: http://pastebin.com/NDWP8gNX ... Anyone know what this might be?
[15:16] <v0lksman> After install on the booted OS if I run ethtool -i on the i350 interfaces they show the same driver and version as a working interface (on a system where the i350 was used during the install)
[15:17] <drag0nius> would 12.10 run badly on 1.6ghz cpu, 768 ram & geforce 5500fx?
[15:17] <elianardi> ciao
[15:18] <a_b0y> drag0nius WinXP would run great on that :)
[15:18] <zucaro> hmmm where would the transmission settings file be? /etc?
[15:18] <ccsteale> v0lksman, thats rather quite odd, im leaning towards that being an issue with how ubuntu is setting up the nic's - im gonna try reproduce see if i can see it happening
[15:19] <ccsteale> zucaro, run the following 2 commands   updatedb && locate settings.json
[15:19] <ccsteale> zucaro, that will show you where that file is you need to edit
[15:20] <p0rk> ccsteale, im trying to do a grub-install but it says "Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time."
[15:20] <p0rk> and it's still saying that
[15:20] <zucaro> oh thanks mate
[15:20] <zucaro> easy
[15:21] <ccsteale> p0rk, run - grub-install /dev/sda that should be done within the minute see if that works
[15:22] <p0rk> says /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[15:23] <ccsteale> p0rk, sounds like the device map might be foobarred
[15:23] <ccsteale> p0rk, mount your boot partitions to /boot and run
[15:23] <ccsteale> p0rk, grub-mkdevicemap --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map
[15:23] <ccsteale> p0rk, things should be fine to run grub install then
[15:24] <p0rk> k, trying now
[15:24] <p0rk> sda1 is boot, right?
[15:24] <p0rk> normallty
[15:25] <ccsteale> should be yeah, check fdisk -l and look for smallest partition, most likeley that p0rk
[15:26] <p0rk> grub-mkdevicemap is not found on my box
[15:26] <p0rk> i guess i could always try to reinstall ubuntu too
[15:27] <c2tarun> Hi friends, I downloaded a pdf and it has some high quality pics in it. Okular is taking like forever to open the pages and even if I leave it opened for a while it is not loading all the pages, any suggestions?
[15:27] <ccsteale> p0rk, could always try doing that, it would most likley fix the issue, but i hate being defeated by a bad install :P one last effort  - try grub-update /dev/sda
[15:27] <Shinobi> I'm not seeing metacity under apps in dconf-editor. What am I doing wrong?
[15:29] <Hardlec99> xD
[15:29] <v0lksman> http://dpaste.com/834822/
[15:29] <v0lksman> Very strang problem!  Any help appreciated!  http://dpaste.com/834822/
[15:31] <zucaro> thanks for help guys.
[15:31] <zucaro> will be back :)
[15:31] <ccsteale> zucaro, let us know if you have any more issues :)
[15:33] <Hardlec99> Bye all :)
[15:34] <ccsteale> Hardlec99, byeee :)
[15:36] <SunMoonStar> nobody's run into my problem? >_<
[15:36] <Eagleman> I am trying to transfer our CVS program to another machine, but i am having problems with importing the passwd file. it just refuses to read it and so it only allows the user root
[15:36] <p0rk> ccsteale, this is only a test case anyway until i get new drives where i have to reinstall everything again
[15:36] <p0rk> so i dont mind reinstalling ubuntu, especially because i used 12.04, now ill use 12.10
[15:37] <ccsteale> Eagleman, you'll need to change the ownership of the file
[15:37] <ccsteale> Eagleman, or if the program only needs to read the file run the command chmod 755 <filename>
[15:38] <Eagleman> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root Software       403 Sep 27 07:42 passwd
[15:38] <ccsteale> is the software running as the software user?
[15:39] <Eagleman> cvsd      1134  0.0  0.1   1736   480 ?        SNs  Nov16   0:00 /usr/sbin/cvsd -f /etc/cvsd/cvsd.conf
[15:39] <ccsteale> Eagleman, in shell, run the command whoami
[15:40] <Eagleman> well i am logged in as root
[15:40] <Eagleman> so i am root
[15:40] <ccsteale> ahh okay, is the config file pointing at the correct file? sounds like a location issue rather than permissions
[15:41] <Eagleman> CVSROOT is in /cvs/CVSROOT
[15:43] <Eagleman> ccsteale on our other server i see this when ps aux | grep cvs
[15:43] <Eagleman> 10089     9090 18.5  0.0   2732   900 ?        Ss   16:43   0:00 cvs server
[15:43] <Eagleman> 10089     9091 34.5  0.0   2736   872 ?        R    16:43   0:00 cvs server
[15:44] <ccsteale> Eagleman, can you paste the exact command and error in http://www.dpaste.org/ so i cant take a look
[15:44] <Eagleman> WHich command?
[15:44] <ccsteale> the command your running to start the cvs application where you reported it wont read the password file
[15:45] <Eagleman> Thats the problem cvs is so vague, i dont even know how i started it. its not working like a normal deamon
[15:46] <ccsteale> on the orignal server can you login as root and run history? hopefully that might tell you how you initially got it started
[15:47] <darrenlooby> Hi Guys, anyone know how to install php5.2 - I need it for a short while, so I have time to update site to newer version (old bit of code causing issues)
[15:47] <Eagleman> ccsteale its like 5 years old or even more, history wont help me :(
[15:47] <TheLordOfTime> darrenlooby, which version of ubuntu are you on?
[15:49] <darrenlooby> Ubuntu 12.04 - TheLordOfTime
[15:49] <lucido> hi, at boot time my pc says waiting for network configuration for a long time, I have lan cable connected and router is set up fine. When I log in the nm-applet is missing and I can get network connection by executing sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[15:49] <darrenlooby> It's a fresh install too - so PHP not currently on there
[15:49] <lucido> its ubuntu 12.10
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> darrenlooby, there's no PHP 5.2 package for Ubuntu 12.04, someone'd have to retroactively port php 5.2 to 12.04, and that's not happening because 5.2 is *old*
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> like beyond old
[15:50] <darrenlooby> Hmm... so not possible to install from binary?
[15:50] <darrenlooby> What's the newest version of Ubuntu I can install 5.2 on?
[15:51] <ccsteale> Eagleman, on the old/current server where cvs is running do ps -f
[15:52] <ccsteale> or ps -auxf either one - Eagleman
[15:52] <TheLordOfTime> darrenlooby, no clue, i'd have to check
[15:53] <TheLordOfTime> darrenlooby, what're you using that uses php 5.2?  5.2's at the latest in 8.04 and nothing else
[15:53] <TheLordOfTime> darrenlooby, 5.3.x or 5.4.x in every other supported release since.
[15:53] <ccsteale> darrenlooby, are you familiar with compiling software from source? - if not I know that ubuntu 8 has it in it's repo's possibly 10 but i dont believe so
[15:53] <TheLordOfTime> ccsteale, 10.04 has the 5.3 series
[15:53] <darrenlooby> I've installed a couple of things from source - would that help me, to give that ago?
[15:54] <darrenlooby> It's a cloud sever, so no real harm in binning it if it goes wrong
[15:54] <zoneout83> Is someone willing to help me with a wireless nic problem? I have a wusb100 I think v 1.0 and it only seems to work until I reach about 12mb of bandwidth then I have to disconnect and reconnect.
[15:54] <ccsteale> Yeah you'll be able to install 5.2 from source
[15:55] <darrenlooby> Right, I'll tut myself up and give that ago then ccsteale - and come back with my tail between my legs when it goes wrong lol
[15:55] <merica> im having a situation where my 1tb usb3 external hard drive is not being recognized on my desktop
[15:55] <merica> same drive is recognized in my laptop
[15:55] <zoneout83> Which is to say I may be coming in and out of here a lot until i fix this
[15:55] <GlitterBoy> How do I configure Ubuntu 11.10 for optimal power savings for a HP6910p laptop with a Intel GM965 chipset
[15:56] <zoneout83> I installed all my updates already via a long line of disconnect reconnect...
[15:56] <ccsteale> darrenlooby, another thing you can try but it might not work/be amazingly unstable is use the karmic repo's on ubuntu 10 but compiling from source is the way to go and a hell of a lot more fun
[15:56] <merica> lsusb and dmesg don't even register that the drive is plugged in
[15:56] <darrenlooby> ccsteale, lol cheers, I'll take note of that :D
[15:57] <ccsteale> merica, problem might be with the connection, can you try plugging it into a different machine and seeing if it's picked up?
[15:57] <zoneout83> I am running ubuntu 12.04 lts I believe...
[15:57] <ccsteale> darrenlooby, good luck :D
[15:57] <Pip>  So is ubuntu more and more sophisticated as Windows now?
[15:57] <merica> ccsteale: the drive does work in my laptop, ubuntu 12.10 mounts it automatically
[15:57] <merica> just not on the desktop
[15:57] <bazhang> Pip, thats not a support question
[15:57] <merica> i tried, multiple ports, same thing
[15:58] <Pip> lol
[15:58] <ccsteale> Pip, depends what you mean by sophisticated? its a damn lot coold :D and true what bazhang said
[15:58] <merica> i know the drive works, and i know the usb ports work
[15:58] <bazhang> Pip, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:58] <merica> becuase i have bt, webcam, keyboard, plugged into them
[15:58] <Pip> What I mean by sophisticated is that when ubuntu is broken, nobody knows how to fix it
[15:58] <zoneout83> Pip: as far as I have been concerned it's better than windows but it takes a little more time to manage because not as many companies put time in creating drivers or go out of their way to support it.
[15:58] <ccsteale> merica, are the ports usb 1/2? may be an issue there?
[15:59] <zoneout83> sorry bazhang
[15:59] <merica> i tried ALL the ports!
[15:59] <zoneout83> bazhang,  didn't know...
[15:59] <merica> usb 1,2,3
[15:59] <Heather_> I'm going through apache2 access log and all the files for my site are loaded except .css files. the files are in the same location as the other files so it should not be permission issue?
[15:59] <ccsteale> merica, very strange, especially since dmesg isn't picking it up :/
[15:59] <merica> i even tried unplugging all other things, and plugging in only the drive
[15:59] <merica> still nothing
[16:00] <zoneout83> Still looking for help with wusb100 wireless nic
[16:00] <merica> yeah
[16:00] <sam_> Hey I am having a problem I may need some assistance if you can help?
[16:00] <merica> strange
[16:00] <ccsteale> sam_, how can we help sam
[16:00] <merica> wat is problem?
[16:00] <ccsteale> merica, anything in syslog/messages?
[16:01] <ccsteale> Heather_, anything in the error log? can you go direcetly to the .css files via browser?
[16:03] <sam_> I am trying to download GIMP, a photo-shop like program, and when I try to download from the software centre It says, "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources."
[16:04] <a_b0y> i heard win8 is great because everything just works
[16:04] <merica> ccsteale: don't see anything in syslog
[16:04] <merica> maybe some audio issues
[16:04] <ccsteale> sam_, have you ammended your sources.lsit file with non standard repo's? I wouldn't advise installing from unauthenticated sources but it should install fine
[16:04] <Heather_> ccsteale yes I can access the .css file through the browser
[16:04] <Simurg> Hi!
[16:04] <Simurg> Is unity more resource hungry then kde (kubuntu)?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> sam_  they may be plugins from third parties
[16:05] <Heather_> might be something with the header since the css file is present there
[16:05] <Simurg> I saw a benchmarking today, claiming so.
[16:05] <ccsteale> MonkeyDust, thats what I was thinking aswell
[16:05] <TheLordOfTime> Simurg, not that i know of, but if resources are an issue, look at Lubuntu or Xubuntu.
[16:05] <InspectorCluseau> sam_, I'm dl'ing gimp right noe with muon ... no warnings at all.
[16:05] <xomniverse> I am using Xubuntu 12.10 and when I am playing a game full screen in DOSBox, for some reason it assumes I am idle and tries to go to a blank screen after 10 minutes. Strangely, in the middle of this process, it realizes that is not the case and brings the screen back.
[16:05] <Simurg> I tried both and unity seemed better, never tried KDE though.
[16:06] <xomniverse> This is disruptive of my game though.
[16:06] <Simurg> I hear you need to have its native programs to get more out of it.
[16:06] <Simurg> Ones with obsessed with letter K, I heard.
[16:06] <ccsteale> Heather_, cant imagine why can you try run the command cat access.log | grep .css - see if that returns anything
[16:06] <Simurg> *-with
[16:06] <sam_> My friend was able to download it fine he didn't know what was wrong.
[16:07] <zoneout83> how do I install the ndiswrapper
[16:07] <lahwran> how do I update to the experimental video drivers in 12.04?
[16:07] <zoneout83> or is it now buit in to linus?
[16:07] <sam_> with mine
[16:07] <zoneout83> *linux
[16:07] <Heather_> ccsteale problem solved linux is case sensetive windows is not
[16:08] <ccsteale> zoneout83, depending on what kernel version you are using will depend if its built into the kernel by default run the command ndiswrapper-dkms; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper - after that it should work fine as that will enable th nescessary kernel module
[16:08] <ccsteale> Heather_, glad its sorted :)
[16:10] <zoneout83> ccsteale thanks
[16:10] <zoneout83> ccsteale be back at you in a couple minutes...
[16:10] <zoneout83> 12.04 btw
[16:10] <xomniverse> anyone else had issues with Ubuntu or Xubuntu assuming you are idle when using DOSBox and thus trying to make the screen go blank/screensaver?
[16:10] <ccsteale> zoneout83, ive done that before on 12.04, any problems let me know
[16:11] <zoneout83> sam_ did you try sudo apt-get install gimp
[16:12] <sam_> My friend was able to download it fine he didn't know what was wrong. Thanks y'all.
[16:12] <zoneout83> sam_, did that work?
[16:12] <llutz> sam_: you need to import the repo-signing-key for the repository you download gimp from
[16:14] <sam_> zoneout83, it is working.
[16:16] <zoneout83> ccsteale, unable to locate the ndiswrapper
[16:16] <v0lksman> to which directory should I build kernel modules?
[16:16] <sam_> it worked thanks
[16:17] <v0lksman> /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ doesn't persist after a reboot
[16:17] <GlitterBoy> hello
[16:18] <p0rk> if i choose to install kvm during install, does it boot differently from a normal install?
[16:18] <zoneout83> sam_ glad that worked keep in mind llutz is probably more familar
[16:21] <zoneout83> Does anyone know how to install the ndiswrapper? apt-get or otherwise?
[16:21] <bc81> hello.  i'm using 12.04, and trying to get games working on pogo.com in firefox and/or chrome.  no luck whatsoever; i've tried just about every java jre & browser plugin i could find..any suggestions to get this working?
[16:21] <bazhang> zoneout83, ndisgtk?
[16:22] <lucido> how can I get rid of the waiting for network configuration at boot?
[16:22] <merica> apt-get install ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-dkms
[16:22]  * bc81 wonders if there is come magical combination of java & flash to play these browser games..
[16:23] <merica> apt-get install dnsiwrapper-utils-1.9
[16:23] <zoneout83> merica, thanks just got there with a google *feels sheepish*
[16:24] <merica> apt-cache search ndiswrapper
[16:24] <zoneout83> merica, does that work on all package searches?
[16:24] <v0lksman> why do my kernel modules get overwritten on reboot?
[16:24] <merica> try it out and see
[16:25] <zoneout83> wth was that?
[16:25] <merica> ?
[16:25] <zoneout83> the spam...
[16:25] <rm-fr> merica: probably because you're not loading them upon boot?
[16:26] <auronandace> !modules | v0lksman
[16:26] <merica> wut
[16:26] <zoneout83> merica, I know it does I did learn a new command though ;)
[16:26] <ccsteale> v0lksman, why dont you build them into the kernel rather than having them as modules?
[16:26] <v0lksman> ccsteale: cause I'm just trying to see if they work to begin with
[16:27] <merica> cause then hed have to rebuild the kernel
[16:27] <rm-fr> why would you do that
[16:27] <zoneout83> merica, I think there needs to be a help file associated with help apt that shows all the extensions like apt-get apt-cache ect
[16:28] <v0lksman> module-assistant: command not found
[16:28] <merica> man apt-cache
[16:28] <merica> man apt-get
[16:28] <auronandace> zoneout83: man apt
[16:28] <zoneout83> sweet thanks auronandace
[16:29] <zoneout83> I think I used to know that but I haven't ran ubuntu since 8 hardy heron
[16:29] <l0p3n> Hello! Is there any way I can find out what bashrc my terminal is using?
[16:29] <SlitazMint_noteb> My screen is black after installing fglrx on 12.10 server edition absolutely nothing on screen. What do I do?
[16:29] <merica> uninstall fglrx
[16:30] <merica> ...
[16:30] <auronandace> SlitazMint_noteb: why do you need fglrx on a server?
[16:30] <merica> ^
[16:30] <SlitazMint_noteb> I'm using it on my desktop. I wanted a minimal install.
[16:30] <auronandace> !mini | SlitazMint_noteb
[16:31] <SlitazMint_noteb> hmmm
[16:31] <SlitazMint_noteb> I did not know about that
[16:31] <zoneout83> i should be using xp drivers with ndiswrapper right?
[16:31] <lucido> is there a solution for this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2073593 ?
[16:32] <zoneout83> i should be using xp drivers with ndiswrapper right?
[16:32] <merica> idk
[16:32] <SlitazMint_noteb> Does mini come with a DE?
[16:32] <auronandace> SlitazMint_noteb: no
[16:33] <compdoc> lucido, does the wifi work once it finanly boots?
[16:33] <compdoc> finally
[16:33] <SlitazMint_noteb> auronandace: Awesome!
[16:33] <SlitazMint_noteb> But won't I get the same problem with fglrx?
[16:33] <lucido> Commander1024, its ethernet lan and it works after I restart network-manager
[16:34] <merica> don't use fglrx
[16:34] <SlitazMint_noteb> I need fglrx.
[16:34] <lucido> compdoc,  , its ethernet lan and it works after I restart network-manager
[16:34] <auronandace> SlitazMint_noteb: no idea, i use the open source driver
[16:34] <merica> why
[16:34] <SlitazMint_noteb> Because of acceleration for videos for one.
[16:34] <compdoc> lucido, that url you posted isnt your config then?
[16:34] <SlitazMint_noteb> And games now that Steam beta is out.
[16:34] <lucido> not exactly only the symtoms
[16:34] <merica> soooo, you don't want a minimal install
[16:35] <SlitazMint_noteb> Yes I do.
[16:35] <bazhang> merica, thats not helpful
[16:35] <SlitazMint_noteb> I want Mate w/o installing Unity.
[16:35] <auronandace> SlitazMint_noteb: mate isn't supported
[16:35] <lucido> compdoc, this is my config: http://pastebin.com/hirLcxXq
[16:35] <merica> how did you install fglrx?
[16:36] <b4ch> !bugs
[16:36] <bazhang> merica, editorializing and offtopic commentary to #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[16:36] <SlitazMint_noteb> merica: apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcc...
[16:36] <SlitazMint_noteb> the created a new xorg config
[16:37] <merica> my experience with video drivers leads me to download from the source
[16:37] <merica> ati/nvidia
[16:37] <compdoc> lucido, that config shows you have 4 ethernet and one wifi card?
[16:37] <merica> and build them
[16:37] <lollko> lalal la la lla llla alla allal ;)
[16:37] <lollko> :D
[16:37] <SlitazMint_noteb> merica: Ok, cool. I'll try that.
[16:39] <lucido> compdoc, I have a single ethernet card integrated in my mobo, the config is a default config I had there
[16:39] <compdoc> lucido, do you use ppp to connect to your isp? or what is your ethernet card connected to?
[16:39] <lucido> companion, ethernet
[16:39] <lucido> compdoc, , ethernet
[16:39] <compdoc> it connects to a router?
[16:40] <lucido> compdoc,  yes, router is fine
[16:42] <compdoc> lucido, this is all you should have:    http://pastebin.com/w8MQTPmj
[16:42] <lucido> compdoc, I'll try that, thanks!
[16:42] <compdoc> be sure to remove the #
[16:45] <compdoc> lucido, can you show me the output of:  cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[16:45] <compdoc> ooops
[16:45] <GlitterBoy> hello all
[16:45] <ccsteale> Hi GlitterBoy
[16:47] <p0rk> ccsteale, i tried the 12.10 install on 2 different drives and got the same error, installation failed at the install the system step
[16:47] <p0rk> so im trying 12.04 again on the 2nd drive
[16:48] <p0rk> i just started the install the base system step now
[16:48] <p0rk> so we'll see
[16:48] <p0rk> fingers crossed
[16:48] <bc81> hello.  i'm using 12.04, and trying to get games working on pogo.com in firefox and/or chrome.  no luck whatsoever; i've tried just about every java jre & browser plugin i could find..any suggestions to get this working?
[16:49] <ccsteale> p0rk, might be lack of driver support in the 12.10 kernel, let me know if it works on 12.04 and let me know you drive types later and ill take a look at that
[16:49] <p0rk> ok, its 2 different drives. first was seagate, this one is western digital
[16:50] <lucido> compdoc, same crap
[16:51] <bazhang> bc81, works fine here. what version of Ubuntu are you on, and what java do you have installed
[16:51] <cosmicpearls> hi all
[16:51] <v0lksman> so what is module-assistant supposed to do for me?  when I load it and go to select a module it doesn't show the module I just built
[16:52] <bc81> bazhang, hello.  i'm using xubuntu 12.04 (fully up-to-date) and have so many versions of java installed, i'm not sure how to find that out.  java -version says: java version "1.7.0_09"
[16:53] <bazhang> bc81, its a bit slow to load; I've got Monopoly running no problems once it does load
[16:53] <Gnea> bc81: I would start by removing every version of java you have, particular if it was NOT installed via apt/synaptic/software center, and then remove those as well in the proper way
[16:54] <dcherniv> bc81, or use update-alternatives to pick the java version you want
[16:54] <zoneout83> alright so I'm reading here and it says disable the free drivers but the config file doesn't seem to exist to add it to the blacklist
[16:55] <zoneout83> also I need to know how to undo these steps before I do them so i can get to help again...
[16:57] <bc81> bazhang: what about the game "Makeover Madness" it seems to be java based, and broken.  monopoly is flash based, and works fine (albeit with some rendering issues on the main menu)
[16:57] <bazhang> bc81, let me check, just a moment
[16:58] <zoneout83> p0rk, ccsteale, if it makes any difference I have a wd hd 500 gb 7200 rpm and have 12.04 and it works fine thus far
[16:58] <ee12059> hi jonnes
[16:59] <p0rk> ccsteale, looks like the 12.04 install worked fine
[16:59] <p0rk> got passed the problem step anyway, didnt get to grub portion
[16:59] <sambagirl> good morning. i backed up my home directory on one of my laptops as i need to move from 10.10 to a fresher version. my question is where are the notes that are associated with the applet that you add to your panel located because i need all of that notes. seecondly does kubuntu have gnome 2 option cause i need the upper and lower panel option and i dont see that in ubuntu anymore?
[17:00] <ee12113> helllo
[17:00] <simonpe^^> I did "apt-get purge pulseaudio*" to try to fix some sound issues. It turns out pulseaudio was not the villain so i re-installed with "apt-get install pulseaudio-*". Now the sound in flash does not work (i.e. youtube) and the sound applet isn
[17:00] <simonpe^^> t autostarted anymore
[17:00] <ee12113> hello
[17:00] <ee12113> hello
[17:00] <simonpe^^> fix how?
[17:00] <ee12113> hello
[17:00] <bazhang> bc81, that requires membership, best as I can tell
[17:00] <ee12046> mekie?
[17:00] <ee12046> kf
[17:00] <ee12113> boas pessoaçl
[17:00] <sambagirl> also does anyone have major problems with chrome?
[17:00] <bazhang> !pt | ee12113
[17:02] <bazhang> !notunity | sambagirl
[17:02] <bazhang> install gnome-panel sambagirl
[17:02] <sambagirl> ok bazhang thanks
[17:02] <sambagirl> what about the sticky notes?
[17:04] <sambagirl> one last question, is it possible to have w8 / xp / ubuntu partitions using grub?
[17:04] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/207923/is-there-a-sticky-note-application-similar-to-windows-sticky-note sambagirl
[17:04] <bazhang> sambagirl, xpad seems to be the sticky note of choice
[17:05] <bc81> bazhang: sorry about that, my wife has a free trial membership for 2 weeks and i wasn't aware it's member only.. another (non member-only) game that is java based and not loading is Sock Hop Slots
[17:06] <sambagirl> haha bazhang. i was looking online in a forum and it's a real challenge so i will just copy/paste to email and send to myself and re do them in new set. also are applets still available in new ubuntu versions?
[17:06] <Gnea> sambagirl: I think so, but for w8 you probably need to chainload to ntloader
[17:06] <merica> sambagirl: win8 uses the eufi by default
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> uefi
[17:07] <merica> uefi*
[17:07] <merica> ty
[17:07] <bazhang> sambagirl, in 12.10, gnome-shell , they are called "extensions" and there are very many of them. applets are around, though you would need to be more specific for me to answer that
[17:07] <sambagirl> thanks
[17:07] <bazhang> bc81, ok checking
[17:07] <v0lksman> so I make install my module which places it in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net module-assistant doesn't show me that module in the list...
[17:07] <v0lksman> what am I doing wrong?
[17:07] <bc81> thanks, bazhang
[17:09] <p0rk> ccsteale, rebooting into os for first time
[17:10] <Gnea> sambagirl: also, http://www.intowindows.com/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu/
[17:10] <p0rk> everything looks well so far
[17:10] <sambagirl> bazhang for example i like weather / system monitor / rolling eyes / sticky notes / cpu frequency / search / multiple shells / various apps i need to launch regulary like htop, teamviewer, vmware...where you have date,time,...
[17:10] <sambagirl> thanks gnea
[17:10] <bazhang> bc81, works fine, I'm on 12.10 with the same version of java that you have and firefox 17
[17:10] <lucido> compdoc, for the recod: putting only auto lo and iface lo inet loopback lines and nothing else in the interfaces file solves the waiting for network configuration at boot time error
[17:11] <lucido> r
[17:11] <compdoc> lucido, good - we need to keep that record straight
[17:11] <compdoc> lucido, can you show me the output of:  cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[17:12] <compdoc> lucido, oh, wait. you use network-manager? if so, it doesnt matter
[17:12] <bazhang> sambagirl, for unity, they are called lenses: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38772/what-lenses-for-unity-are-available
[17:12] <sambagirl> am i the only one having major issues with chrome browser across "all os's" or is anyone else?
[17:12] <p0rk> ugh
[17:12] <super-hego> hi
[17:12] <p0rk> it booted up but i get ext4-fs error's now
[17:12] <p0rk> wtf
[17:12] <sambagirl> unity is out for me bazhang
[17:12] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[17:12] <bazhang> p0rk, no cursing here
[17:12] <lucido> compdoc, http://pastebin.com/nLGpEN6X why?
[17:12] <security> p0rk: mind your words
[17:13] <zoneout83> sambagirl, before you go trying to do dual booting make a supergrub disk it might save you in a pinch
[17:13] <bazhang> sambagirl, you might wish to check screenlets then
[17:13] <super-hego> ping
[17:13] <Munchor> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tiff/libtiff4_3.9.5-2ubuntu1.2_i386.deb  404  Not Found I am getting that, I can't update
[17:13] <compdoc> lucido, that looks like only a partial of the 70-persistent-net.rules file, and that shows two different nics. Anyway, as long as it works....
[17:14] <Munchor> Any ideas on what the problem is?
[17:14] <p0rk> my fstab is corrupted
[17:14] <p0rk> buncha junk in it
[17:15] <zoneout83> ndiswrapper issue here, how do I blacklist my current w nic driver
[17:15] <zoneout83> ?
[17:15] <Gnea> sambagirl: how is chrome misbehaving? works fine here..
[17:16] <lapion> why is skype-bin:i386 being installed as an update ?
[17:16] <Gnea> that isn't to say that chrome hasn't misbehaved for me in the past ;)
[17:16] <p0rk> how can i fix a corrupted fstab?
[17:16] <cheesecakes> hello
[17:16] <Gnea> p0rk: how corrupted is it?
[17:16] <p0rk> full of junk
[17:16] <Gnea> p0rk: 'junk'?
[17:16] <cheesecakes> i did an upgrade and lost my sound completely
[17:16] <p0rk> not even plain text
[17:17] <p0rk> yep
[17:17] <NCsaba> Hi all. I've a quick question: Can I create a bootable linux pen drive (xubuntu preferable) which can be a full functional, updateble, configurable system that is different then a live version. So changes need to be persistent, like kernel updates, eventually custom compiled kernels, etc... so any change I do on it should stay after a reboot.
[17:17] <Gnea> p0rk: ooooh.... well, you'd have to recreate it by hand...
[17:17] <NCsaba> it there a tool for that?
[17:17] <p0rk> :(
[17:17] <p0rk> its a brand new install, one disk, sda, normal partition
[17:17] <IdleOne> !usb | NCsaba Look at the second link
[17:17] <Gnea> p0rk: documentation is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[17:18] <Gnea> p0rk: oh good, that'll make the recreation easier
[17:18] <cheesecakes> also my computer has also become very slow after the update
[17:18] <NCsaba> yes, I found this but http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux gives 503
[17:18] <auronandace> !blacklist | zoneout83
[17:18] <Gnea> p0rk: that website will basically introduce you to each tool and how to use each tool in order to get the correct bits that you need to regenerate your fstab
[17:18] <cheesecakes> it was a kernel update i think
[17:18] <bekks> NCsaba: Thats a server error then.
[17:18] <NCsaba> yup
[17:18] <cheesecakes> any suggestions?
[17:19] <Gnea> p0rk: kinda makes me wish there was a script to do that automatically
[17:19] <IdleOne> NCsaba: Use unetbootin
[17:19] <NCsaba> anyone knows a mirror for that?
[17:20] <cheesecakes> i am using 12.04
[17:20] <cheesecakes> and the laptop is a dell inspiron 1420
[17:20] <Gnea> p0rk: looks like someone tried... not sure if they managed to succeed: https://jamfnation.jamfsoftware.com/discussion.html?id=4237
[17:20] <cheesecakes> before the reboot the sound was working now it isnt
[17:21] <Gnea> cheesecakes: did you check your mixer?
[17:21] <cheesecakes> how do i do that?
[17:21] <cheesecakes> nvm i think i saw that on wiki i'll brb
[17:22] <Gnea> !sound | cheesecakes
[17:22] <morphiss> Hi there ;)
[17:22] <NCsaba> IdleOne: unetbootin can create persistent os?
[17:23] <IdleOne> NCsaba: yes
[17:25] <cheesecakes> alsamixer was muted
[17:25] <cheesecakes> but on the volume control applet it wasnt muted
[17:26] <belgianguy> what comes before alpha?
[17:26] <cheesecakes> that was scary
[17:26] <Gnea> cheesecakes: I did away with unity and gnome and installed E17, so I only use alsamixer these days.
[17:26] <cheesecakes> i am using gnome
[17:26] <cheesecakes> but i like ratposion better
[17:26] <Gnea> I should probably just install bodhi linux one of these days
[17:27] <auronandace> belgianguy: what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[17:27] <belgianguy> auronandace:  if anyone knows, please let the rest know when the Ubunty Web-Apss get to that stage
[17:27] <cheesecakes> i just intalled ubuntu natively after playing arounf with it in a vm
[17:27] <zoneout83> belgianguy, development or dv
[17:27] <cheesecakes> o i am still a bit noobish
[17:27] <zoneout83> *dev
[17:27] <Gnea> cheesecakes: I like E17 for the simple fact that it will run on an older pentium and modern hardware
[17:28] <belgianguy> zoneout83: regular usage, as was promised in 12.10
[17:28] <SpaceRocket> Full disk encryption doesn't fully encrypt the disk as the /boot is still plain, which can be easily vulnerable
[17:28] <belgianguy> it's been pretty dissappointing tbh, while it shows much promise
[17:28] <cheesecakes> gnea: i think ratposion would too
[17:29] <cheesecakes> its has no graphics and fully keyboard based
[17:29] <belgianguy> half of them don't work, don't get updated (GrooveShark) or just take out Firefox when you click on them
[17:29] <bekks> SpaceRocket: As long as you have physical access, every encryption is vulnerable.
[17:29] <Gnea> cheesecakes: that would be awesome to see. I used to run fvwm2 on a 486 and early versions of E13 and such were developed around such hardware.
[17:30] <alessio> hi guys! Can you please suggest an mp3 player able to read and display lyrics stored in the ID3 tag?
[17:30] <cheesecakes> it has a learning curve but afterwards you love it
[17:30] <alessio> I can find players that search for lyrics on the internet, but none that reads an existing lyrics tag
[17:30] <Gnea> !mp3 | alessio
[17:30] <SpaceRocket> yes bekks  but at least slowing the attacker  and make it more difficult
[17:30] <SpaceRocket> what is the difference between using FDE only and FDE with LVM ?
[17:30] <Gnea> alessio: ID3 tags aren't designed to hold all the lyrics of a song, just the basic information
[17:31] <cheesecakes> also the performance has decreased after the update any suggestions on that front?
[17:31] <alessio> Gnea: there is windows software which does that
[17:31] <NCsaba> IdleOne: what option should I choice to have a persistent os on usb penddrive: NetInstall, HdMedia or Live?
[17:32] <alessio> Gnea: for instance jetaudio
[17:32] <Hypernova> Any awesome games for ubuntu?
[17:32] <auronandace> !games | Hypernova
[17:32] <Hypernova> Underline *Awesome*
[17:33] <Gnea> alessio: I highly doubt that, the specification of ID3 doesn't allow for such a large amount of textual information to be included. Do you know what version of ID3 it is using?
[17:36] <alessio> Gnea: you are probably right, it's not a proper ID3 tag
[17:36] <alessio> Gnea: http://id3.org/Lyrics3v2
[17:36] <Gnea> alessio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JetAudio#Lyric_support  Yeah, it says right there: "JetAudio uses Cowon’s proprietary lyric tag format rather than the standard Lyrics3v2. As such, files tagged with the Lyrics3 format are not compatible with the lyric viewing function of JetAudio, and conversely, applications supporting Lyrics3 tags will not be able to display lyrics for files tagged with JetAudio."
[17:37] <Gnea> alessio: however, doing the .txt file thing might not be out of spec.... however, if they don't release the code to do that, it'd have to be reverse-engineered. I have no idea if anyone has been able to mimic that functionality.
[17:38] <newroad> hello, I have an optimus laptop with bumblebee, and i've installed latest drivers and bumblebee, but I think that the latest nvidia drivers aren't being loaded. I'm receiving errors that my secondary GPU could not be loaded. I see an nvidia-current_hybrid.conf file if I do "ls /etc/modprobe.d/*nvidia*", does that mean it is blacklisted?
[17:38] <cheesecakes> wow a lot stopped working after this update :/
[17:39] <ee12113> #include<stdio.h>
[17:39] <ee12113> #include<math.h>
[17:39] <ee12113> float factorial ( float y ) {
[17:39] <ee12113> 	int f=1;
[17:39] <ee12113> 	
[17:39] <ee12113> 	while(y>0)
[17:39] <FloodBot1> ee12113: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:39] <ee12113> 	{
[17:39] <cheesecakes> my webcam went too
[17:39] <sambagirl> i noticed that /usr/local/games/enemy-territory//et doesnt get copied in the home backup. so i need to backup the full hdd to get everything?
[17:39] <ee12059> #prog
[17:39] <alessio> Gnea: but do you know any other player that supports the Lyrics3 tag instead? and allows to read and save lyrics from an mp3?
[17:39] <cheesecakes> also the performance has taken a hit
[17:39] <Gnea> alessio: I can see how having the lyrics available like that would be nice, especially for deaf people
[17:40] <sambagirl> if i do sudo nautilus will that allow me to get the whole partition?
[17:40] <sambagirl> i meant file system
[17:40] <bazhang> sambagirl, its gksudo, but not a good idea
[17:41] <cheesecakes> it says device not found in cheese
[17:42] <iceroot> is there a way to prevent a file reading by root? (without encryption)
[17:42] <sambagirl> bazhang why not? i just want to have the whole drive. just as a Possession
[17:42] <ee12113> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1377582/
[17:42] <Gnea> alessio: it doesn't look like anything has been officially released yet. id3lib seems to have support for it, though, so it looks like the bricks for the road have been built: http://id3lib.sourceforge.net/  Someone could be developing an app for it.
[17:42] <ee12113> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1377582/
[17:42] <cheesecakes> whereas this webcam worked before upgrading
[17:42] <ee12059> ghhy
[17:42] <ee12113> asd
[17:42] <ee12113> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1377582/
[17:42] <alessio> Gnea: it's actually for my father who has just switched to Linux. He listens to German music to learn the language
[17:42] <Gnea> alessio: That's a great idea, hadn't thought of that :)
[17:42] <newroad> hello, I have an optimus laptop with bumblebee, and i've installed latest drivers and bumblebee, but I think that the latest nvidia drivers aren't being loaded. I'm receiving errors that my secondary GPU could not be loaded. I see an nvidia-current_hybrid.conf file if I do "ls /etc/modprobe.d/*nvidia*", does that mean it is blacklisted?
[17:43] <bassliner> hi, anyone a clue if rc6 power saving for intel GPUs is possible with the current kernel release that comes with ubuntu 12.10 (3.2.x i assume ?)? if so, is it patched into the kernel? would i have to use kernel parameter "i915.i915_enable_rc6=1"? thanks.
[17:44] <ee12113> jjjjtyjj
[17:44] <ee12113> tyj
[17:44] <ee12113> jy
[17:44] <ee12093> sadqw
[17:44] <ee12113> yj
[17:44] <FloodBot1> ee12113: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <ee12113> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1377582/
[17:44] <bassliner> nevermind, was a 12.04 where i just looked
[17:44] <ylan> Ok
[17:44] <ee12113> lul
[17:44] <ee12113> uilui
[17:44] <ee12113> ui
[17:44] <bassliner> can anyone tell me what kernel version a 12.10 installation currently has by default?
[17:44] <ee12113> ul
[17:44] <FloodBot1> ee12113: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <p0rk> looks like somehow /var/lib/apt/lists is a directory rather a file
[17:44] <SunMoonStar> how do I have a program the rights to write a file to it's cwd if it lies in /usr/local/games/ ? It seems that applications can't write to there by default..
[17:45] <sambagirl> it says i dont have permission to copy certain stuff so i skip but i cant sit here and check every sec is there another way? i dont want to use clonezilla
[17:45] <ee12113> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1377582/
[17:45] <ee12046> #include <stdio.h>
[17:45] <ee12046> #include <math.h>
[17:45] <ee12046> #include<stdlib.h>
[17:45] <ee12046> int factorial (int y) {
[17:45] <ee12046> 	int f=1;
[17:45] <ee12046> 	while (y>0){
[17:45] <FloodBot1> ee12046: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <ee12046> 	
[17:45] <Gnea> !patience | ee12046
[17:45] <SpaceRocket> how to use full disk encryption and make separate /home partition
[17:45] <Gnea> !encryption | SpaceRocket
[17:46] <SunMoonStar> Anyone know how to give a program the permission to write a file to /usr/local/games/mygame ?
[17:46] <ee12172> file:///usr/users2/mieec2012/ee12172/prog1-tp1/restoPar.c
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, put it somewhere else?
[17:46] <Gnea> ee12172: do you have a question?
[17:47] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, /usr/local/* is usually owned by root, so you should have no need to write there...
[17:47] <ee12172> file:///usr/users2/mieec2012/ee12172/prog1-tp1/seno.c
[17:47] <ee12093> qwdq
[17:47] <newroad> hello, I have an optimus laptop with bumblebee, and i've installed latest drivers and bumblebee, but I think that the latest nvidia drivers aren't being loaded. I'm receiving errors that my secondary GPU could not be loaded. I see an nvidia-current_hybrid.conf file if I do "ls /etc/modprobe.d/*nvidia*", does that mean it is blacklisted?
[17:47] <sambagirl> i was copying the file system and it was larger than what the whole drive size is.  when it says file system does it mean even external drives that might be attached?
[17:47] <newroad> [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: XORG NVIDIA(0): Failed to assign any connected display devices to X screen 0
[17:47] <HTC-DZ> hi people. i need help :( ubuntu noob here
[17:47] <Gnea> bazhang: thank you
[17:47] <cheesecakes> i see it lsusb
[17:47] <TheLordOfTime> HTC-DZ, details are useful.
[17:48] <SunMoonStar> TheLordOfTime: I searched and found the recommendation that I should put installed programs in /usr/local and larger programs in /opt
[17:48] <cheesecakes> i see the webcam in lsusb but cheese says device not found
[17:48] <SunMoonStar> TheLordOfTime: This game writes a savesettings file but it can't since that's a root one :o was it a bad recommendation?
[17:48] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, that's a general recommendation not a all-the-time recommendation
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, in some cases that's not what you do, in your case try it in /opt
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, if that doesn't work why not just run it out of your home direcotry
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> directory*
[17:49] <HTC-DZ> lord, i have and AMD 4000+ single core CPU, 4gb DDR 400 RAM, onboard nvidia 6510 GPU, but ubuntu 12.10 64bit crawls to do anything via the live cd
[17:49] <frojnd> Hi there :) I have Acer aspire one 722 and apperantly driveres aren't isntalled. How do I install open source radeon drivers from command line?
[17:49] <HTC-DZ> oh the AMD 4000+ chip is 64bit
[17:49] <SpaceRocket> Gnea, i'm talking about 12.10 and the new installer
[17:49] <compdoc> HTC-DZ, pretty old stuff
[17:50] <SunMoonStar> TheLordOfTime: i dont want a lot of random programs' settings files cluttering up my home directory. Is /opt open to users or only root also? I need to abstract this to understand where I should put my programs
[17:50] <jpds> SunMoonStar: root.
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> HTC-DZ, try Lubuntu.  and don't call me "lord" i'm not your god.  :P
[17:50] <SunMoonStar> jpds: where do you think I should put the program?
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, which "game" are you trying to run?
[17:50] <HTC-DZ> i know comp, up till now xp has ben moving slowly but im tired of it and i really like the look of ubuntu so thought id give it a try.
[17:51] <HTC-DZ> meant xp hasnt been moving slowly
[17:51] <SunMoonStar> TheLordOfTime: It's called Lantern which is an interface for chess program ICC. It's not in the repositories
[17:51] <HTC-DZ> whats the difference TLOT? ?
[17:51] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, run it from your home directory, that's the only way it can save data correctly.
[17:51] <mikefrett> XP is very old, it would run on a P2.
[17:51] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, or try one of the other chess programs out there.  (not sure what Lantern is though)
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> HTC-DZ, Lubuntu uses the LXDE interface, its not Unity but its FAR less resource-heavy
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> HTC-DZ, if you can't run Unity due to old hardware, use Lubuntu
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> (its a different interface though)
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> !lubuntu | HTC-DZ
[17:52] <SunMoonStar> TheLordOfTime: my .bashrc seems to have a setting to include /home/bin if it exists. I don't know what 'bin' is in general, i assume it's binaries for custom programs that I developed. Do you think I should put it in there or should I put a separate /home/games directory or something?
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, uh... what?
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, /home/YOURUSERNAMEHERE/bin might be one place to put stuff
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> but /home/bin != valid
[17:53] <beagleburt> G'day everyone from New Zealand. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS about a month ago. I have a single user account & I am the Administrator; BUT I can't access the 'Root' & 'Lost & Found' folders, nor can I use <shutdown -r now> command from Terminal - as I "need to be root". I entered my login password for "su" but -"password authentication failure" is returned? Can anyone help me? t.a.
[17:53] <arnsa> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12367531#post12367531 could anyone help, please?
[17:53] <thesadmafioso> beagleburt you need to use "sudo" not su
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> beagleburt, by "root" folders you mena /root/ ?  lost and found may not need accessing normally.  And use sudo
[17:53] <SunMoonStar> TheLordOfTime: I mean, is */bin in general a location I should put programs? or is that only for developers
[17:54] <thesadmafioso> beagleburt: unless you enable a root account. a root account is not enabled by default in ubuntu
[17:54] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, its your system, run it from wherever you see fit.  I run half of my stuff on my servers as non-root, so...
[17:54] <HTC-DZ> i see, do they have LTS versions of lubuntu? what happens if i use an older version of ubuntu, say version 11? i know its not supported anymore but aside from the updates is there any draw backs?
[17:54] <SunMoonStar> TheLordOfTime: thanks for the help
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> SunMoonStar, i usually run stuff out of individual directories for each program out of my home dir.
[17:55] <beagleburt> "thesadmafioso" how do you enable a root account?
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> !root | b
[17:55] <thesadmafioso> beagleburt: instead, in ubuntu the normal user "borrows" root privs to accomplish tasks. there's plenty of information in the official documentations about this issue.
[17:55] <Phryq> what's the most awesome fluxbox theme. Transparency and dark and just awesome looking?
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> bleh.
[17:55] <jpds> !sudo | beagleburt
[17:55] <jpds> !noroot | beagleburt
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> beagleburt, we don't give help in configuring the root account from here.
[17:56] <Gnea> SpaceRocket: this might help, keep in mind that it's 2 pages... you should read both: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/11/03/ubuntu-12-10-installation-and-disk-partitioning-guide/
[17:56] <DamienCassou> hi
[17:57] <HTC-DZ> guys?
[17:57] <nonvediae> helll
[17:57] <beagleburt> Thankyou all who replied - I will take some time to digest & follow your advice - thanks - 'b'ye for now
[17:57] <DamienCassou> I've just installed a package with aptitude and this installed thousands of packages. I guess most of them are only recommended but not dependencies. How can I remove these recommended packages without removing the package I want?
[17:57] <tucemiux> anyone knows if an ATI or nvidia card would play better with ubuntu?
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> HTC-DZ, lubuntu has the same release cycle of Ubuntu
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> HTC-DZ, Lubuntu 12.04 is still LTS.
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> same with Kubuntu 12.04, Xubuntu 12.04 and Ubuntu 12.04
[17:58] <jpds> TheLordOfTime: No, it's not.
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> jpds, you sure?  core is still LTS last i checked.  it shares core.
[17:58] <dcherniv> tucemiux, nvidia
[17:58] <jpds> TheLordOfTime: Only Ubuntu falls under the LTS support fom Canonical.
[17:58] <nonvediae> could you help me with ATI drivers -- i have amd fusion APU with 6550D integrated card -- proprietary driver works but it choppy when i do resize windows
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> jpds, official LTS you mean.
[17:58] <nonvediae> when i run open box it's OK
[17:59] <mikefrett> tucemiux: Nvidia but I use an ATi card and it works just fine. No issues.
[17:59] <tucemiux> dcherniv, you have an nvidia gpu? im thinking about going for the GTX 660, i s it hard to configure ?
[17:59] <cheesecakes> why did the drivers change after an upgrade :/
[17:59] <cheesecakes> the webcam worked after changing driver
[17:59] <cheesecakes> i am wondering what other drivers have changed ?
[17:59] <dcherniv> tucemiux, have ati here not by choice. nvidia is usually pain-free and driver install from nvidia.com is pretty straightforward
[18:00] <TheLordOfTime> HTC-DZ, i'm wrong then.  its not "LTS" officially.  won't have the LTS title.
[18:00] <dcherniv> nonvediae, pastebin output of glxinfo
[18:00] <SpaceRocket> thanks Gnea
[18:00] <tucemiux> dcherniv,  im going for an nvidia then, if they work with ubuntu, might as well support the hardware manufacturer that plays nice with your OS
[18:01] <tucemiux> anyone knows what is the status of wayland?
[18:01] <dcherniv> tucemiux, released 1.01
[18:01] <dcherniv> tucemiux, sure you dont need more trouble
[18:01] <HTC-DZ> i just checked theres kubuntu out as well. this has KDE. correct me if im wrong, but KDE, GNOME, LXDE is just the UI?
[18:02] <dcherniv> tucemiux, make sure to get the driver from nvidia.com it has been updated recently on the account of the whole linux steam beta
[18:02] <nonvediae> i have not access to this pc right here, what flags to check in glxinfo output?
[18:02] <tucemiux> dcherniv, but is wayland supported on ubuntu?
[18:02] <mikefrett> TheLordOfTime: I personally use Xubuntu, much lighter than LXDE and has an LTS. Just remove the 'dock' and drag the top bar down to the bottom and thats the closest thing to a 'Windows' that you can get. I've never been happier.
[18:02] <dcherniv> tucemiux, not at the moment, maybe in the next release
[18:03] <vitimiti> o/
[18:03] <beagleburt> !root
[18:03] <dcherniv> nonvediae, how do you figure your graphics is shot then?
[18:03] <vfw> mikefrett: I wouldn't say that it is lighter than LXDE.  Maybe more easily configuable, more feature rich and/or user frendly.
[18:04] <TheLordOfTime> mikefrett, no, Xubuntu doesn't get the LTS title.
[18:04] <TheLordOfTime> only Ubuntu does.
[18:04] <tucemiux> thanks for your input fellas, im going to the mall and check out an nvidia gpu
[18:05] <v0lksman> still searching for answers:  http://dpaste.com/834822/
[18:05] <vfw> TheLordOfTime: Xubuntu is same as Ubuntu, 12.04 is LTS
[18:05] <v0lksman> What is the difference between me enabling a card during the install and enabling it after?
[18:05] <mikefrett> That's not true eh, 12.04 is an official LTS
[18:05] <TheLordOfTime> vfw, it doesnt assume the LTS title.  LTS is the canonical-supported title, nothing gets the LTS title EXCEPT Ubuntu.  officially.
[18:05] <v0lksman> where can I look for kernel flags or something that would lead to that behaviour
[18:05] <TheLordOfTime> they all hav ehte same support length, but not the "LTS" title.
[18:06] <mikefrett> Then my official cd was misprinted then...
[18:06] <TheLordOfTime> mikefrett, vfw, argue with jpds on that one.
[18:06] <v0lksman> how would I go about reporting this as a bug?
[18:06] <TheLordOfTime> jpds is more senior on that than I.
[18:06] <zoneout83> not sure what was last seen...
[18:06] <zoneout83>  I need some walk through help on getting a wireless nic to work. I've been trying to get th ndiswrapper to work but it doesn't seem to, I have a wusb100 and right now it is using rt2800 but it drops connection on high bandwidth downloads
[18:06] <vfw> TheLordOfTime: That is what LTS is, the length of support.
[18:07] <TheLordOfTime> vfw, silence, i'm done arguing this, take it up with jpds.
[18:07] <vfw> TheLordOfTime: And it certainly does get the title of LTS.
[18:07] <IdleOne> arguing the same thing, you are both right. Argue elsewhere :)
[18:07]  * TheLordOfTime goes back to stabbing the system.
[18:08] <HTC-DZ> you guys are losing me lol  <pulling hair out>  so let me get this. ubuntu = android. KDE,GNOME = samsung touchwiz and HTC Sense UIs? i know i sound retarded im just trying to get my head around the terminology
[18:09] <zoneout83> i am getting a fatal: ndiswrapper not found even though I completely removed it and reinstalled it twice now...
[18:09] <IdleOne> HTC-DZ: think of it this way, KDE LXDE XFCE Unity are all just a set of default applications with a different look for each environment.
[18:10] <zoneout83> IdleOne, don't they each have a different library to pull from though I remember installing KDE on ubuntu to get something to work before...
[18:11] <vfw> IdleOne: I am not arguing, only correcting. Just trying to set the record straight.  Xubuntu 12.04 is a Long Term Support release (LTS) and will be supported for three years per the Xubuntu LTS plan.
[18:11] <markoK> hey guys, is there a alternative for itunes because I have an iphone and I am looking for a tool which help me to backup my iphone like in itunes
[18:11] <IdleOne> HTC-DZ: The description I just gave you is very minimalistic of course. like zoneout83 just pointed out they share some libs and for some apps you might have to install different libs, the package manager ( Software Center) will take care of that part for you.
[18:12] <HTC-DZ> aaahhhhh i seee :D ok now im picking up what you guys throwing down
[18:12] <IdleOne> vfw: My point was that you were both right and that this channel is not the correct place to discuss it.
[18:12] <SpaceRocket> there is  a but with NM, when I specify the DNS servers for OpenDNS and validate, still failing
[18:12] <zoneout83> i think #ubuntu-offtopic is the channel lol
[18:13] <zoneout83> <-- Still hoping for help with an NDIS
[18:13] <zoneout83> wrapper
[18:13] <mikefrett> By the way, if any of you are in the US, Happy Thanksgiving. I'm thankful for Linux and all the Devs.
[18:13] <HTC-DZ> with regard to LTS, normal releases are supported for 3 years, LTS versions are supported for 5 years. or am i mistaken? im sure i read that somewhere
[18:13] <IdleOne> !lts
[18:13] <dr_willis_> 12.04 is special
[18:14] <v0lksman> is there an ubuntu server channel?
[18:14] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-server
[18:14] <zoneout83> lol I have 12.04 LTS so where's my support ;)
[18:15] <HTC-DZ> ok nevermind. 3years is right. 5years is for server editions.
[18:15] <v0lksman> IdleOne: thanks
[18:15] <IdleOne> welcome
[18:15] <vfw> HTC-DZ: Regular support is 18 months, LTS Desktop is 3 years.  See:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[18:16] <arucard> hola
[18:16] <HTC-DZ> ok guys, off to research which ubuntu will be right for my dinosaur of a machine, if i need any help il come round again :) thanks all for the help. :) im starting to like the Linux Community already. People be helpful and polite :)
[18:16] <arucard> alguien podria ayudarme
[18:17] <IdleOne> !es | arucard
[18:17] <arucard> por que se ve opaco los videos
[18:17] <arucard> ah ok gracias
[18:18] <vfw> zoneout83: The 18 months or 3 years of support means that for that length of time, you get updates to  your system.  When that length of time is over, you reach EOL (End Of Life) and you have to upgrade to newer version in order to contiune to receive support, (in the way of updates for your various applications).
[18:19] <zoneout83> vfw: I was just joking around except I do need help with this ndiswrapper
[18:19] <vfw> zoneout83: Where are you at with it?
[18:20] <zoneout83> vfw: I've installed the wrapper and I'm getting fatal: ndiswrapper not found when I try to install a driver
[18:20] <zoneout83> i've removed it and reinstalled it.
[18:21] <k1l> you are sure you need ndiswrapper?
[18:21] <zoneout83> basically I have a wireless usb network card wusb100 that everytime I download something I get dced even though it says it's still connected. streaming youtube installing updates all that causes the connection to go down then I disconnect then reconnect and I'm back on for x amount of mb I guess.
[18:22] <zoneout83> k1l, I have wusb100 using rt2800 the driver I downloaded is rt2870 and no I am not sure but it worked in 8.04 LTS
[18:23] <zoneout83> the card was working fine last week-end in windows 7 and on an older xp machine FYI
[18:23] <k1l> zoneout83: can you paste the line showing the device in "lsusb"?
[18:24] <zoneout83> any switches?
[18:24] <vfw> zoneout83: Did you get the correct inf file?
[18:24] <k1l> most times the ndiswrapper is not a stable as the linux drivers
[18:25] <zoneout83> i pasted output here http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ETp0rCWY
[18:26] <zoneout83> vfw, I grabbed a usb driver from the linksys website firmware 1.0
[18:26] <vfw> zoneout83: ndiswrapper -l  #Tell us what that says.
[18:27] <zoneout83> it says driver installed lol
[18:27] <zoneout83> and even has the driver that failed to install listed
[18:27] <vfw> zoneout83: So, what happens when you modprobe ndiswrapper?
[18:27] <zoneout83> rt2870 : driver installed
[18:27] <zoneout83> 	device (1737:0070) present (alternate driver: rt2800usb)
[18:28] <vfw> zoneout83: You need to remove the incorrect one.
[18:28] <k1l> zoneout83: it should work with the rt2870 without ndiswrapper. maybe there is a need to block rt2800usb
[18:28] <n4uk5> quit
[18:28] <zoneout83> johnny5@TARDIS:~$ modprobe ndiswrapper
[18:28] <zoneout83> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[18:28] <vfw> zoneout83: ndiswrapper -e incorrect-driver
[18:29] <deafie> hello?
[18:29] <deafie> anyone here?
[18:29] <lollko> no
[18:29] <lollko> :>
[18:29] <k1l> !ask | deafie
[18:29] <zoneout83> ndiswrapper -e rt2800
[18:29] <zoneout83> couldn't delete /etc/ndiswrapper/rt2800: No such file or directory
[18:30] <zoneout83> if these weren't two liners I wouldn't be pasting them in here... FYI
[18:30] <deafie> LOL ... there was a bad lag time... i wasnt sure if I was connected... has anyone tried to install ubuntu 12.10 on the HP elitebook?
[18:32] <Juggle> can anyone help me to enable oracle java on ubuntu
[18:32] <Juggle> i installed the jdk.1.6.0_30 bin file
[18:32] <Juggle> run with ./
[18:32] <Juggle> the files are under /usr/lib/jvm
[18:33] <Juggle> when i apply update-alternatives
[18:33] <Juggle> it print no alternatives
[18:33] <vfw> zoneout83: iwconfig  #tell us what that says.
[18:34] <markoK> is there a alternative for itunes because I have an iphone and I am looking for a tool which help me to backup my iphone like in itunes
[18:34] <vfw> zoneout83: Are you 32 or 64bit?
[18:35] <zoneout83> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=4TKSzCde vfw and 32 bit
[18:35] <dcherniv> Juggle, meh just symlink the binaries from /usr/lib/jvm/whatever/java to /usr/bin
[18:36] <markoK> anyone ?:(
[18:36] <zoneout83> vfw I am running a amd phenom ii x4 945 just put it together last night.
[18:37] <zoneout83> everything to get this far about 400.00
[18:37] <vfw> zoneout83: Well, I dono.  Just now seeing: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/229-ubuntu-precise-dlink-dwa160-revb2
[18:37] <dcherniv> markoK, afraid not. there are some clients that let you upload/download music but nothing that does what itunes does fully
[18:37] <zoneout83> k I gotta go family stuff I will be back tonight though
[18:37] <zoneout83> thank you for the help
 zoneout83: it should work with the rt2870 without ndiswrapper. maybe there is a need to block rt2800usb
[18:38] <vfw> zonetti: Looks like the device is wroking.  Why are you trying to install ndiswrapper?
[18:38] <catbuntu> Hiya
[18:38] <zonetti> vfw, excuse me?
[18:38] <k1l> vfw: that is what i was about in the first place
[18:39] <|Slacker|> is there a way to enable display auto dimming in precise?
[18:39] <vfw> k1l: It is a USB device, I think.  At least that is what he said earlier.
[18:40] <vfw> zonetti: Sorry, zoneout83 seems to have left us.
[18:40] <k1l> yes. but this works without ndiwswrapper. some users only find windows drivers on the manufacturers page and think they have to use them with ndiswrapper instead of using the linux ones
[18:40] <zonetti> vfw, yeah.. I saw that later :)
[18:40] <Juggle> i did thank you
[18:43] <markoK> any iphone user here?
[18:44] <bazhang> markoK, what applications have you tried
[18:45] <kymara> can anyone recommend a guide/command to change xubuntu (11.10?) into ubuntu (I just want unity etc instead of xfce)
[18:46] <bazhang> kymara, the package ubuntu-desktop
[18:47] <kymara> bazhang: ok thank you i was worried (from ol dguides) that would only give me gnome, i'll try it
[18:47] <zonetti> kymara, apparently the ubuntu-desktop should do the trick
[18:47] <bazhang> kymara, ubuntu is gnome, you realize
[18:48] <markoK> bazhang: just banshee
[18:48] <bazhang> markoK, what about rhythmbox
[18:49] <Juggle> how to i extract a rar file
[18:49] <Juggle> i am trying but getting error
[18:49] <Juggle> is there another way
[18:49] <markoK> bazhang: what is the closest to itunes?
[18:49] <bazhang> markoK, in what respect
[18:49] <xangua> Juggle: did you install rar and unrar packages¿
[18:50] <Juggle> yes, unrar is already the newest version  message comes when i try to apt-get install unrar
[18:51] <markoK> bazhang: lets say I jailbreak my Iphone and want the normal OS back, in itunes I can get my "normal" os back that I backedup. is there a linux alternative that can do the same?
[18:51] <Vista_> is there a command that will tell me if any files are being accessed in a certain folder?
[18:52] <xangua> markoK: no
[18:52] <bazhang> markoK, to reinstall the firmware? not that I have ever heard, no
[18:53] <markoK> bazhang: so only itunes can do it :(   thats bad to hear, so wine or VM is my only alternative ?:(
[18:53] <vfw> Vista_: lsof
[18:54] <vfw> Vista_: lsof |grep "/path/to/etc"
[18:54] <Vista_> vfw: thanks
[18:54] <CrAzYWolF> exit
[19:01] <iceroot> markoK: there is another alternative
[19:01] <Vista_> vfw: I opened a file in nano from the folder oscar but lsof | grep "oscar" no returns
[19:01] <iceroot> markoK: dont buy apple products, because they are just a big jail. buy something which is not taking away your freedom
[19:03] <robbie> hi - I have an ntfs partition mounted in ubuntu and I copied data to it from a tar archive. I can see the directory I made when I boot to ubuntu, but not in Windows
[19:03] <robbie> why can't I see the data on the ntfs partition when I boot to windows?
[19:04] <kymara> bazhang: thanks i got what i wanted :) (unity stuff :))
[19:05] <savio> after editing sudoer file it takes immediate effect
[19:06] <Catbuntu> brb
[19:07] <Roey> hey all, I have my SPDIF OUT channel connected to my stereo system.  Why is it that when my stereo is muted, the SPDIF channel automatically gets muted after a while?  It didn't used to do this (I am on Ubuntu 12.10, and this started after I upgraded from 12.04)
[19:07] <markoK> iceroot: its not my iphone, it belongs to my sister. I still have a nokia 5800 :(  but my next phone will be the nexus4 :)
[19:08] <DrManhattan> Roey, most onboard sound cards with spdif do that. It's a "power saving" feature. imho, it blows.
[19:12] <savio> i have metasploit install i thinking to setup cron job  to update metasploit but i can't do this with root account because i use rvm so i have to use rvmsudo for update to work here is paste of sudoer file i edited to use rvmsudo without password so i can setup cron job but its not working i still need to enter the password
[19:12] <savio> #
[19:12] <savio> # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
[19:12] <savio> #
[19:12] <savio> # Please consider adding local content in /etc/sudoers.d/ instead of
[19:12] <savio> # directly modifying this file.
[19:12] <FloodBot1> savio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:12] <savio> #
[19:13] <savio> i have metasploit install i thinking to setup cron job  to update metasploit but i can't do this with root account because i use rvm so i have to use rvmsudo for update to work here is paste of sudoer file i edited to use rvmsudo without password so i can setup cron job but its not working i still need to enter the password
[19:13] <savio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1377790/
[19:14] <wcapio> hi folks, I just installed 12.10 on a brand new SSD... I just followed the standard options... but they force me to use legacy mode... should I reinstall?
[19:15] <Vista_> ahh it does work
[19:15] <Catbuntu> hi
[19:18] <markoK> does anybody know something new about the nexus 4 availability ?:)
[19:21] <Vista_> sold out, but the nexus 10 said that yesterday, but its shipping today
[19:22] <Evil_Eric> ok does anyone know exactly where in the conf file that xchat actually closes to the tray instead actually closeing
[19:23] <savio> i have metasploit install i thinking to setup cron job  to update metasploit but i can't do this with root account because i use rvm so i have to use rvmsudo for update to work here is paste of sudoer file i edited to use rvmsudo without password so i can setup cron job but its not working i still need to enter the password
[19:23] <savio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1377790/
[19:24] <DaimyoKirby> Is there a way to remove all files except for those of a certain type (.doc, .xls, etc) from a folder and its subfolders, yet retain the directory tree structure?
[19:25] <wcapio> is uefi better than bios?
[19:26] <bobweaver> DaimyoKirby,  you could use find ?
[19:28] <bobweaver> DaimyoKirby,  you might want to think about the files that you want to remove though  like if I wanted to remove all mp3's under ~/Music I would do           find /home/user/Music -name '*.mp3' -exec rm {} \;
[19:28] <bobweaver> that would remove all files that are mp3s
[19:28] <Dmole> help with jockey-text please; "jockey-text --enable=kmod:fglrx_updates" fails... why?
[19:30] <iceroot> wcapio: is a book better then a car?
[19:30] <OerHeks> hey steffen ubuntuhelpguy :-D
[19:31] <DaimyoKirby> Bobweaver- the issue is that there are so many subdirectories, and so many different files, I thought it would be simpler to remove all files, and keep only a few.
[19:32] <_Bier> hello everyone, i am currently using ubuntu which is a live cd booted from an usb stick, but the space i reserved for programs is FULL, so now i get the "low graphics mode error"
[19:32] <llutz> DaimyoKirby: like:  find path/  -regextype posix-egrep -not -regex '.*(doc|xls)$' -type f -delete
[19:32] <_Bier> i want to use my live cd as it originally was, delete the reserved space perhaps
[19:32] <llutz> DaimyoKirby: you want to check and test that before you actually run it
[19:33] <_Bier> i can get into the "TRY UBUNTU" screen, its where i am now
[19:33] <_Bier> can anyone please help me? :(
[19:33] <gordonjcp> _Bier: why not delete some of the files in the reserved space?
[19:33] <_Bier> i dont know how and where that is
[19:34] <gordonjcp> okay, so how do you know that's what's causing the problem?
[19:34] <_Bier> i have access to my folders, but cant move anything to trash
[19:34] <gordonjcp> don't move things to trash
[19:34] <_Bier> because there is no trash can
[19:34] <gordonjcp> delete them
[19:34] <dr_willis_> what all did you install on it?
[19:34] <_Bier> how?
[19:34] <gordonjcp> if I meant "move them to the trash" I'd have said "move them to the trash"
[19:34] <gordonjcp> well, <shift-DELETE> might be a good start
[19:34] <gordonjcp> or just rm
[19:35] <_Bier> shift delete doesn't do it
[19:35] <_Bier> do i need the terminal for rm? if so how do i access it before im logged on
[19:35] <gordonjcp> okay, then open a terminal and use rm
[19:35] <adknight87> or change a prefrence in the file manager that lets you have the drop down context option of delet
[19:35] <adknight87> delete
[19:35] <gordonjcp> _Bier: <CTRL-ALT-F2> will drop you into a plain terminal
[19:35] <gordonjcp> log in with your username and password as normal
[19:35] <gordonjcp> work out where you want to delete stuff, and delete it
[19:36] <dr_willis_> live cd user is    ubuntu
[19:36] <adknight87> _Bier: There's a option to add delete to the context menu from nautilus
[19:36] <gordonjcp> then <ALT-F7> to get back to the desktop
[19:36] <gordonjcp> _Bier: if you've got stuff in .Trash, give that the bullet first
[19:37] <adknight87> Fail
[19:37] <adknight87> We meet again dr willis
[19:37] <adknight87> Happy thanksgiving
[19:39] <kwtm3> What command-line can I use to cleanly unmount a hard drive partition of ReiserFS that was not cleanly unmounted?  Is there something like "fsck --fix-errors /dev/sda7" or something like that?
[19:39] <DaimyoKirby> Just tested it in a directory tree I made on my desktop - `find /path -regextype posix-egrep -not -regex '.*(doc|xls)$' -type f -delete' worked great!
[19:39] <abyss42> when i do /etc/init.d/nginx status it says it is running, but when i do /etc/init.d/nginx stop..it does not stop it. Any ideas?
[19:39] <DaimyoKirby> Thanks so much!
[19:39] <llutz> DaimyoKirby: you can extend the list of extensions, just use | to seperate
[19:40] <DaimyoKirby> Ok; I'm probably gonna write this down somewhere, it's so useful.
[19:43] <dcherniv> DaimyoKirby, or something like this
[19:43] <dcherniv> DaimyoKirby, find path/ -type f -not -iname "*.doc" -not -iname "*.xls" -exec rm {} \;
[19:44]  * dcherniv some people when faced with a problem say "I know i'll use regexp". Now they have two problems
[19:45] <llutz> dcherniv: hehe
[19:46] <Dmole> yah because they solved the first problem with regex and are now on to other things
[19:46] <dcherniv> :)
[19:48] <Dmole> now if only I could get Ubuntu installed (display driver problems)
[19:48] <z1ng3r> Hey, folks- Anyone here that can help me with a dual-boot-Intel-Mac install?  Specifically, what do I need to do to get one to work?  The ubuntu-12.10-server-amd64 going through the normal install doesn't seem to be working.
[19:49] <SlitazMint_noteb> Does anyone here have an AMD HD6800 series with fglrx working?
[19:49] <Dmole> z1ng3r: you need to use bootcamp and/or custom firmware
[19:49] <bekks> SlitazMint_noteb: Why?
[19:49] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: can't get it to install the drivers :(
[19:50] <z1ng3r> Dmole- I have rEFIt installed, which seems to be the recommended way of doing it.
[19:50] <SlitazMint_noteb> Because I'm reinstalling my system after losing it from installing fglrx
[19:50] <cheesecakes> why do drivers get messed up after an upgrade?
[19:50] <SlitazMint_noteb> I need it to work.
[19:50] <cheesecakes> *kernel
[19:50] <bekks> SlitazMint_noteb: So which Ubuntu are you using in detail?
[19:51] <Dmole> "ERROR: modinfo: could not find module fglrx"
[19:51] <SlitazMint_noteb> I was using server editition until I realized there was Ubuntu Mini
[19:51] <SlitazMint_noteb> 12.10
[19:51] <cheesecakes> i got everything sorted out but was wondering if this was a bug or something
[19:51] <Lazik> z1ng3r, what is your macbook air version? (ex: 3,2)
[19:52] <leftist> i installed win8 and created 2 partitions and am now trying to boot ubuntu however it doesnt even acknowledge the os at all and goes straight to win8. i'm going to remove it just wanted to know how you do a dual boot?
[19:52] <dcherniv> cheesecakes, which drivers?
[19:52] <cheesecakes> webcam
[19:52] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: fglrx just crashes so you get no interface after boot?
[19:52] <z1ng3r> It's not an Air.  It's the old-school Macbook (the black one)
[19:52] <dcherniv> cheesecakes, uvc type?
[19:52] <bekks> cheesecakes: Which driver?
[19:52] <cheesecakes> yes uvcvideo
[19:53] <leftist> old school to me would have been powerbook :D
[19:53] <dcherniv> cheesecakes, was the uvc module not loading with new kernel?
[19:53] <cheesecakes> yes i think
[19:53] <SlitazMint_noteb> What do I do to restore the system if the screen goes black after rebooting with fglrx drivers?
[19:53] <leftist> tany takers to my question?
[19:53] <z1ng3r> leftist- Yeah, well, I work with a bunch of "kids" who have to have the newest thing that comes out of the Foxconn plant.
[19:54] <cheesecakes> i had to add to the kernel startup list manually and blacklist the wrong driver
[19:54] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: I used [Ctrl][alt][f1]
[19:54] <leftist> ha i can dig it z1ng3r
[19:54] <z1ng3r> leftist- Did you install GRUB or are you trying to use the win8 boot loader?
[19:55] <leftist> i just installed w8 in a partition and deleted all the previous ones so it's just w8 and empty non formatted partitions
[19:55] <cheesecakes> so was this a special case?
[19:56] <leftist> i might have to do this through windows probably.
[19:56] <dcherniv> cheesecakes, probably, what driver was loading instead of uvc?
[19:56] <z1ng3r> leftist- Ah- I'd try to lay a new ubuntu install down in another partition, then use grub as the boot loader.
[19:56] <cheesecakes> i dont remember
[19:56] <leftist> ahh it came up :D
[19:56] <leftist> brb
[19:57] <dcherniv> cheesecakes, dunno weird, uvc is standard for webcams. Should have been loading by default
[19:57] <z1ng3r> I think I'm going to try bootcamp instead of rEFIt.
[19:57] <SlitazMint_noteb> Dmole: When I got the black screen nothing would show up at all.
[19:57] <cheesecakes> also my pperformance has slowed up a bit
[19:57] <leftist> what are you trying to do z1ng3r?
[19:57] <SlitazMint_noteb> Is it possible to fix fglrx problems from a live distro?
[19:57] <cheesecakes> idk why
[19:58] <bekks> SlitazMint_noteb: Did you check wether fglrx supports your hardware at all?
[19:58] <z1ng3r> leftist- I'm trying to dual-boot my Macbook (not Air) between OSX and Ubuntu.
[19:58] <leftist> what ver osx?
[19:58] <leftist> is that a ppc mac?
[19:59] <dcherniv> SlitazMint_noteb, no response at all? ie CTRL+ALT+F2?
[19:59] <z1ng3r> leftist- I'm trying to use rEFIt so I can pick at boot time rather than having to boot all the way in and pico one or the other.
[19:59] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: hold shift during boot, and add nomodeset to the kernel line replacing quiet splash
[19:59] <mikey1243> Just got this message when trying to partition my drive and was wondering what it means: /dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.  However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should.  Perhaps it was corrupted -- possibly by a program that doesn't understand GPT partition tables.  Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an msdos partition table.  Is this a GPT part
[19:59] <z1ng3r> leftist- I'm on 10.7.5, and it's an Intel mac.
[19:59] <leftist> ok
[20:00] <markoK> hey guys, on which place and file does ubuntu list all its services/daemons, I want to edit it manualy
[20:00] <devral> hi. how do I forward system mail messages (such as cron errors) to an e-mail address? I have postfix configed and working
[20:00] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[20:00] <z1ng3r> markon- Look in /etc/rc2.d
[20:00] <tbrown20> I was wondering if someone can direct me to the right place for Oracle java.
[20:00] <leftist> umm z1ng3r i cant help you with that one i'm so sorry
[20:00] <dcherniv> markoK, /etc/init.d use update-rc.d tool
[20:00] <leftist> i've never used it as a boot loader
[20:00] <z1ng3r> leftist- no worries.  Thanks for the consideration, though.
[20:00] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: grub 2 is close to the same thing
[20:00] <SlitazMint_noteb> I'm gonna try to install the drivers again. What method and version should I use? I did sudo apt-get install fglrx last time it didn't work. (following the documentation of course)
[20:01] <markoK> dcherniv: its not a simple text file, I mean why do I have to use a tool?:)
[20:01] <z1ng3r> markoK: Things listed with an "S" will automatically start on boot.  Things listed with a "K" will not.
[20:01] <dcherniv> markoK, they are text files in a special directory
[20:02] <dcherniv> markoK, the runlevel on which service is run is controlled by symlinks to /etc/rc#.d
[20:02] <dcherniv> markoK, you can update those symlinks manually but there are 6 runlevels, lots of symlinks to keep track of and very easy to mess it up
[20:02] <dcherniv> markoK, so there's a tool that does it for you :)
[20:03] <markoK> dcherniv: okay but would be nice to know whats going on
[20:04] <SlitazMint_noteb> Should I download fglrx from AMD if apt-get install fglrx didn't work?
[20:04] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: no idea, maybe ubuntu just won't work with ati
[20:05] <devral> how do I forward system e-mails (root's mail) through postfix to a gmail address? I have postfix working properly atm
[20:06] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: maybe this: http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/
[20:06] <z1ng3r> devral: edit the .forward file?
[20:06] <llutz> devral: /etc/aliases:   root:  you@gmail.com                       then run "newaliases"
[20:06] <tbrown20> Java Chat Room Please
[20:07] <devral> is there a difference between creating ~/.forward and changing /etc/aliases?
[20:07] <z1ng3r> devral: You did say postfix.  .fprward is for sendmail.  DO what llutz said.
[20:07] <tomek_> hi
[20:07] <devral> ah, gotcha. thanks
[20:07] <z1ng3r> devral: np.
[20:08] <z1ng3r> Okay- off to screw around with trying to make BootCamp work.
[20:08] <z1ng3r> Later folks.
[20:08] <tomek_> who knows how to change gnome visual look?
[20:10] <jilebedev> Hi hi - is there such a thing as a "Printscreen for the terminal". I know I can pipe the output of individual commands. What I want to do is to capture the ascii buffer from the current terminal, and write it as a text file. Is this possible, can anyone recommend a tool?
[20:11] <bekks> jilebedev: There is no such tool, I guess.
[20:11] <vfw> jilebedev: >file.txt
[20:12] <devral> when I type "mail" to check my user's mailbox, I get: "Cannot open mailbox /var/mail/devral: Permission denied"
[20:12] <tomek_> anyone can help me with gnome?
[20:13] <llutz> devral: "ls -l /var/mail/devral"
[20:13] <llutz> devral: should be devral:mail
[20:13] <llutz> owned*
[20:13] <Jordan_U> jilebedev: What is your end goal?
[20:14] <tomek_> anyone can help me with gnome?
[20:14] <bekks> tomek_: Just ask, please.
[20:14] <vfw> Jordan_U: If what he said is accurate >file.txt is all he needs.  Right?
[20:14] <tomek_> how change gnome visual look
[20:14] <tomek_> ?
[20:14] <bekks> tomek_: Which Ubuntu do you use?
[20:15] <dr_willis_> !theme
[20:15] <tomek_> latest
[20:15] <Jordan_U> vfw: It doesn't sound like that's exactly what they needs, but it's hard to tell without them telling their end goal.
[20:16] <Jordan_U> s/needs/need/
[20:16] <llutz> jilebedev: if you know you want to capture when starting a session, use "script"
[20:16] <bekks> tomek_: Which is "latest"?
[20:16] <bekks> tomek_: No need to open a query.
[20:17] <phong_> hi guys
[20:17] <_ericcc> 'ello
[20:17] <phong_> _ericcc, sup dude
[20:18] <phong_> _ericcc, du the du
[20:19] <Dmole> I thought linux and nvidea had problems, but I did not expect the 12.10 installer to fail so completely with an amd graphics chipset :(
[20:19] <merica> i can't find a solution to this external drive problem, the drive doesn't register on my desktop via any usb port, dmseg and syslog don't show anything being plugged in,
[20:19] <merica> but the drive works on my laptop, which is also running ubuntu
[20:20] <bkc_> Dmole: never had any problems w/ nvidia in linux, more so with amd/ati thou :/
[20:20] <unheeding> so the drive is good, merica, but maybe the port on your computer isn't
[20:20] <merica> unheeding: i tried many ports, and i know they work, cause i have other devices using them
[20:20] <merica> i even tried, unplugging all other usb devices, and it still didn't register
[20:21] <merica> its a usb3 drive, and my mobo has usb3 ports, but like i said, i tried all the ports
[20:21] <oxynad> nobody here?
[20:21] <merica> newp
[20:21] <merica> nobody here but us chickens
[20:22] <oxynad> how come i cant see anybody?
[20:22] <adknight87> Nice compiz + Cube Desktop + Android + Windows 7 + BackTrack
[20:22] <adknight87> WIN all across the board
[20:23] <merica> any ideas on why this drive wont register while connected to my desktop, but works fine in my laptop
[20:23] <merica> both are fresh installs of 12.10
[20:23] <kurohyou> yo
[20:24] <leigh> hi all has any one tried to install itunes on ubuntu using wine or playonlinux?
[20:24] <Guest9259> Hey all. I am about to reinstall ubuntu on my laptop and I just remembered that there is something with grub and something else I had to edit after the computer loads to desktop. It had to do with the graphics card
[20:24] <Guest9259> Does anyone know what I am talking about?
[20:24] <merica> proprietary drivers?
[20:25] <Guest9259> No, it was some line I either edited or appended in grub. I can't recall though
[20:25] <merica> what kind of graphics card is it?
[20:25] <Guest9259> nvidia
[20:25] <merica> optimus?
[20:26] <Guest9259> not sure
[20:26] <Dmole> Guest9259: maybe nomodeset in the linux line of grub
[20:26] <merica> im just wingin it here
[20:26] <Guest9259> dmole: that was it
[20:26] <merica> yeah
[20:26] <Guest9259> dmole: do you know what it was that I need to type exactly?
[20:26] <Dmole> Guest9259: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[20:26] <merica> was what i was gonna say
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[20:27] <Guest9259> thanks you guys
[20:27] <Guest9259> happy thanksgiving
[20:27] <Dmole> Guest9259: you might want to use 12.04 as I can't get 12.10 to install the right drivers
[20:28] <merica> Dmole: why not?
[20:28] <merica> som1 halp meh plz!
[20:29] <bekks> merica: Can you speekz english pleaz? :)
[20:29] <merica> :P
[20:29] <merica> my external usb3 1tb drive doesn't register on my desktop
[20:30] <merica> fresh install of ubuntu12.10
[20:30] <bekks> merica: Then take a look at "dmesg" in a terminal when plugging the drive in.
[20:30] <Dmole> merica: seemingly endless reasons; first problem was the black screen on boot, second problem was compiz using all the CPU, 3rd problem was selecting 3rd party drivers failed because some file is missing (now there is no unity on boot), 4th problem is the .bin from ati failed in some way....
[20:30] <merica> i have tried all the usb ports, which i know are good because i use other usb devices,
[20:30] <Dmole> merica: try 12.04
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> merica: what file system does it use?
[20:30] <merica> bekks: dmesg doesn't show anything,
[20:30] <bekks> merica: Do you have an USB3 port at all?
[20:31] <merica> yes
[20:31] <bekks> merica: Do you have an USB3 cable, too?
[20:31] <merica> yes
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> merica: what file system does it use?
[20:31] <merica> everything is new
[20:31] <merica> ext3
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> merica: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l    do you see it?
[20:32] <merica> new hardware (desktop computer), fresh installs, new external drive
[20:32] <merica> ActionParsnip: no
[20:32] <bekks> merica: does "sudo lspci -k" show you the USB3 controller?
[20:32] <merica> newp
[20:32] <bekks> "newp"?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> merica: is the device usb powered or is it powered by a separate power
[20:32] <merica> no
[20:32] <merica> sry
[20:33] <merica> ActionParsnip: its usb powered, and it works on my laptop
[20:33] <merica> i did try unplugging all the other usb devices, then plugging the drive in
[20:33] <bekks> merica: Then the controller isnt recognized at all. Did it ever work - even with a different usb device?
[20:33] <merica> same result
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> merica: when you last unplugged it, did you unmount it properly?
[20:33] <merica> yes
[20:33] <merica> bekks: it works in my laptop
[20:33] <merica> with usb3 and fresh install of ubuntu 12.10
[20:34] <bekks> merica: So you plugg out the entire controller (out of your PC) and plug it into your laptop?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> merica: have you tried setting the USB to legacy mode in BIOS?
[20:34] <merica> bekks, i remove the drive from the desktop, and plug it into the laptop, and the laptop will mount it
[20:35] <bekks> merica: Thats not what I asked.
[20:35] <merica> ActionParsnip: legacy mode is on
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> merica: do other devices work in the ports?
[20:35] <merica> ActionParsnip: yes
[20:35] <merica> bekks: i didn't understand then
[20:35] <bekks> merica: The USB3 _controller_ isnt recognized at all, as you told us.
[20:36] <bekks> So either it is broken, or disabled in the BIOS.
[20:36] <merica> http://pastebin.com/4z0Zh4XS
[20:37] <bekks> merica: Then why did you say "no" when being ask wether lspci -k shows the USB3 controller?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> merica: how about booting with it attached
[20:37] <merica> sorry, i must not have read the entire thing and assumed you said drive in stead of controller
[20:38] <merica> ActionParsnip: tried that as well didn't change anything
[20:38] <bekks> merica: Then unplug the drive, wait 10s, plug it into the USB3 port, wait 10s and pastebinthe entire output of "dmesg" please
[20:39] <merica> http://pastebin.com/nQcWRLR1
[20:39] <merica> k
[20:39] <merica> thats prior to what you just said
[20:39] <guntbert> !enter | merica
[20:40] <matx> hello! is anyone here familier with inotifywait. I have a problem where i run it as root but it appears to run scripts as a normal user
[20:40] <simonpe^^> Im having some sound issues. The following makes my toslink connector output digital audio (albeit with very poor quality) mplayer -ac hwac3,hwdts, -channels 6 -ao alsa:device=iec958 <file>. The problem is that I cannot get pulseaudio to send the signal to my toslink plug. Any ideas (both for the horrible quality and for the pulseaudio issue)?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> merica: Do you dual boot the system?
[20:40] <merica> as of yesterday yes
[20:41] <merica> though, iv never used the drive in windows
[20:41] <merica> can't, being that its ext3
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> merica: check in windows that the USB is not set to be able to wake up the PC and disable power management. It can help
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> merica: the Windows OS may be 'holding' the USB ports
[20:42] <merica> http://pastebin.com/yNmBNGLZ
[20:42] <merica> well, this was the case before i dualbooted
[20:43] <Dmole> merica: while you are doing that in windows do the same for the NIC
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> merica: do you have the latest BIOS?
[20:43] <darrenlooby> Well, after a while of working at it - I've finally got PHP 5.2 working on Ubuntu 12.04... phew...
[20:44] <merica> good question, i haven't checked for bios updates
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> merica: the BIOS gives settings for the ports, may help
[20:44] <merica> yeah, i looked at that, wasn't much to mess with, and nothing seemed to change anythin
[20:45] <darrenlooby> Next question. I'm looking for a list of differences between PHP versions - so I can then go look at the code for problems.
[20:45] <bekks> darrenlooby: Check their changelog. :)
[20:45] <guntbert> darrenlooby: ask in ##php maybe?
[20:45] <merica> but, i had this problem yesterday with ubuntu 12.04, prior to my format and dualbooting
[20:46] <Owner_> Hey guys. So I am trying to install ubuntu and the screen goes black. I turned on the nomodeset thing but that doesn't cut it. There was something else I did when I originally installed it
[20:47] <Dmole> merica: try the drive in windows (you should at least be able to see it)
[20:48] <leftist> grub works great with win8! good day!
[20:48] <merica> i dualboot my laptop as well, and the drive works fine in it
[20:48] <Dmole> merica: try CentOS
[20:48] <merica> alright, i'll boot into windows, see if it can see the drive, and check for bios updates
[20:49] <merica> brb
[20:49] <Dmole> merica: the drive will show up in the disk management but not windows explorer
[20:51] <SlitazMint_noteb> Big surprise, fglrx screwed me over again.
[20:51] <SlitazMint_noteb> How do I restore? I am in rescue mode in a shell.
[20:51] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: did you try 12.04?
[20:51] <SlitazMint_noteb> I'm in 12.10
[20:51] <SlitazMint_noteb> No I did not
[20:52] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: I was unable to get amd working in 12.10, so I'm installing 12.04 now...
[20:53] <KjetilK> seems my /etc/rc.local isn't run at startup, at least none of the parameters I have in there are set, it executable and has the hashbang
[20:53] <KjetilK> what else could be wrong?
[20:53] <SlitazMint_noteb> Dmole: tell me if it works
[20:53] <SlitazMint_noteb> Dmole: What card do you have?
[20:53] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: ... don't know
[20:54] <SlitazMint_noteb> Dmole: Desktop or laptop?
[20:54] <Owner_> So when I try and install ubuntu and I check nomodeset, noapic and apci=off Ubuntu loads for a while then leaves me at the command line (logged in as root) what do I do?
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> KjetilK: did you add the command above the 'exit 0' line?
[20:54] <KjetilK> ActionParsnip, yeah...
[20:55] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: laptop
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> KjetilK: add an extra line to run:   echo "it's running" | tee /home/username/Desktop/test.txt
[20:55] <KjetilK> This is the script: http://pastebin.com/8uS7FG9M
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> KjetilK: change 'username' for your username
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> KjetilK: then, reboot. If you see the file. you know /etc/rc.local IS being processed
[20:56] <KjetilK> ActionParsnip, right
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> KjetilK: try that first, then we can progress
[20:57] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: MAYBE a "Radeon HD 6490M"
[20:57] <KjetilK> hmmm, problem is, this is my MythBuntu box, and it currently has some problems getting up, with a scarily low Wife Acceptance Factor as a result...
[20:57] <gyre007> is there a way how I can use auditd to check what process/who is chown-ing some file on filesystem ? I can see that this is doable for accessing the files...but can't see any reference to chown-ing - obviously I know that chowning wouldnt work without accessing...
[20:58] <SlitazMint_noteb> Dmole: Mine is HD 6870
[20:58] <KjetilK> so, I guess I will try to debug it later, when the detrimental effects of a falling WAF isn't that pronounced :-)
[20:58] <SlitazMint_noteb> Dmole: Please don't forget to tell me if it works for you.
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> gyre007: if the command is running at present, you can run:  ps -ef | grep chown
[20:59] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: no problem, I'm just sitting around waiting for the install to finish...
[20:59] <hozmaster> helo what is /usr/share/python-support/ folder is that still exist 12.4?
[21:00] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: did you try sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx ?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> hozmaster: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1378030/
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> SlitazMint_noteb: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[21:00] <gyre007> no ActionParsnip this happens randomly...also I doubt Id catch it with ps :) chown doesn't usually run several seconds :) especially on the superfast servers these days
[21:00] <KjetilK> ActionParsnip, actually, this could explain it:
[21:01] <KjetilK> root@tigger:/etc/rc2.d# ls -la S99rc.local
[21:01] <KjetilK> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Jun 28  2010 S99rc.local -> ../init.d/rc.local
[21:01] <SlitazMint_noteb> Dmole: No, what's that?
[21:01] <SlitazMint_noteb> ActionParsnip: quantal
[21:01] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: drivers
[21:01] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: as per http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> gyre007: if you are chowning a folder with lots of small files, it will take a while.
[21:01] <KjetilK> so, it appears to point to rc.local in init.d
[21:01] <SlitazMint_noteb> Anyone know how I remove the AMD drivers I installed from AMD website?
[21:02] <SlitazMint_noteb> I'm in rescue mode and a have a shell up.
[21:02] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: (using the ppa was the one thing I did not try on that page)
[21:02] <ariesam> ./Connection_Manager: error while loading shared libraries: libusb-0.1.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:02] <ariesam> ??? error
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> SlitazMint_noteb: dpkg -l | grep fglrx      should give a clue
[21:02] <llutz> KjetilK: /etc/rc.local != /etc/init.d/rc.local, different files
[21:02] <Evil_Eric> ActionParsnip, you just beat me to that
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> ariesam: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[21:02] <KjetilK> llutz, yeah, that's the problem
[21:02] <llutz> KjetilK: you want /etc/rc.local
[21:02] <hozmaster> i got <app>.public which contains file to other place
[21:03] <KjetilK> llutz, what will run /etc/rc.local?
[21:03] <SlitazMint_noteb> ActionParsnip: Did not output anything.
[21:03] <Evil_Eric> SlitazMint_noteb, do you have synaptic package manger
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> !ati | SlitazMint_noteb will show the packages to install
[21:03] <llutz> KjetilK:  /etc/rc.local  will be called by /etc/init.d/rc.local
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> SlitazMint_noteb: so the ones to install will need removing :)
[21:03] <KjetilK> llutz, ah, ok
[21:04] <gyre007> ActionParsnip: fair enough :)
[21:04] <KjetilK> so, I can debug this problem by running  /etc/init.d/rc.local
[21:04] <SlitazMint_noteb> Evil_Eric: No I don't
[21:04] <hozmaster> but when I start ie. app i got no such file or dire
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> ariesam: its a terminal command
[21:05] <Evil_Eric> if you did have it installed you could simply search for the gfrlx and remove the packages
[21:05] <llutz> KjetilK: sudo "/etc/init.d/rc.local start"  to test
[21:05] <KjetilK> llutz, yeah, and it ran
[21:06] <SlitazMint_noteb> ActionParsnip: Since I did not install the package sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx doesnt work.
[21:06] <SlitazMint_noteb> I installed from AMD this time.
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> SlitazMint_noteb: try the packaged version
[21:06] <SlitazMint_noteb> ActionParsnip: How do I remove what I have now?
[21:07] <SlitazMint_noteb> ActionParsnip: I did try the packaged version when I was using Ubuntu server 12.10 if it doesnt work ot that then it wont work on ubuntu mini 12.10 i dont think
[21:08] <Evil_Eric> this might work sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev* xorg-driver-fglrx
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> SlitazMint_noteb: do you want a desktop OS?
[21:09] <Holden> Hi guys, I've update to firefox 17 on lucid, but scrolling on some pages (like http://www.findchips.com/avail?part=NJW0281G ) it's really slow... has anyone noticed that?
[21:10] <SlitazMint_noteb> Evil_Eric: That didnt do anything. -__-
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> SlitazMint_noteb: or are you just getting no display onscreen?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Holden: what desktop are you using?
[21:10] <Holden> ActionParsnip, it's lucid, so gnome 2.30
[21:10] <SlitazMint_noteb> ActionParsnip: yes i want a desktop os, everything was working fine till i installed fglrx, now the screen is just black when I reboot
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> SlitazMint_noteb: so why install server?
[21:11] <SlitazMint_noteb> I didn't know about mini edition, now I have mini.
[21:11]  * laff3n <- needs help setting up a bitcoin miner ... have pclbm installed, have issues with ATI opencl ... but cant find any info on google
[21:11] <TJ-> KjetilK: I suspect your settings are being over-ridden by the /etc/init.d/ondemand service (/etc/rc2.d/S05ondemand )
[21:12] <amews_aj-study> Hi, again I forgot, what is the command to wipe a hdd in linux ?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> SlitazMint_noteb: if you let the OS boot some then press CTRL+ALT+F1, do you get a prompt?
[21:12] <merica> sudo rm -rf /
[21:12] <llutz> TJ-: unlikely, since S99 runs after S05
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> amews_aj-study: you can use dban or dd
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> !danger
[21:12] <Dmole> amews_aj-study: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[21:12] <merica> lol, he asked
[21:12] <KjetilK> TJ-, oh, I'll look into that
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> merica: please don't put commands like that in here. It also doesn't wipe it effectively
[21:13] <BluesKaj> amews_aj-study, use a partition manager
[21:13] <SlitazMint_noteb> ActionParsnip: Nope
[21:13] <merica> i think i gave him what he was asking for
[21:13] <SlitazMint_noteb> not even splash screen
[21:13] <Dmole> my example was so bad the  ubottu	bot could not comment
[21:13] <merica> but thats all beside the point
[21:13] <TJ-> llutz: KjetilK  ondemand starts and then sleeps for 60 seconds, then sets the scaling governor
[21:13] <KjetilK> TJ-, it may explain the cpu_freq stuff, but not the lirc statement at the end?
[21:14] <merica> ActionParsnip: the drive didn't register in win8 either, and it appears there might be a bios update
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> merica: it's not, it could be a different drive to the one booted to...couldn't it
[21:14] <BluesKaj> meric  new users might not know the effects of that command
[21:14] <merica> won't happen again
[21:14] <TJ-> KjetilK: Indeed. As ActionParsnip said, you need to add some logging to the file and reboot the PC to check it
[21:14] <KjetilK> hmmm, the cpufreq is pretty archaic by now in my setup anyway, I'll remove it
[21:14] <ariesam> thanks ActionParsnip but the error continues, apparently did not find that file "libusb-0.1-4.so" and the program can not start.
[21:14] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: did nomodeset not get you a spash screen?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> merica: so jumping to such a ridiculous assumption and destructive command is far from helpful
[21:14] <ariesam> :(
[21:15]  * KjetilK nods, I suppose so
[21:15] <TJ-> merica: Have you confirmed that the drive isn't trying to draw more power than the USB3 port can supply? The USB2 spec says it should provide 900mA but its not unknown for that to sometimes be lower.
[21:16] <TJ-> s/USB2/USB3/
[21:16] <Dmole> ActionParsnip: exactly what else could he mean by "wipe a drive"?
[21:16] <llutz> tj KjetilK even then, "ondemand" sets governor but not min-scaling-freq
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Dmole: user could have 50 USB drives and want to wipe just one
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Dmole: that is nothing to do with / or rm...
[21:17] <merica> TJ- i haven't confirmed that, idk how i would, i just know it doesn't register on the desktop
[21:17] <SlitazMint_noteb> I managed to restore the old drivers.
[21:18] <SlitazMint_noteb> ActionParsnip, Dmole ^
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> SlitazMint_noteb: sweet :)
[21:18] <Dmole> ActionParsnip: true using root as an example was bad, and likely dd is the more secure option he was after
[21:18] <ReAzem> Hello! I have an issue. I know than anacron runs tasks with run-parts. The problem is that I have a job which is extremely long, and I would like anacron to the following tasks even if this job is not completed, any solutions?
[21:18] <ReAzem> *to run
[21:18] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: but do they perform at all?
[21:19] <BluesKaj> Dmole, we suspect his intentions ...Ive seen ppl advise others to use that command with malice.
[21:19] <TJ-> llutz: KjetilK cpuinfo_{min,max}_freq are read-only values - so you can't write to them. They're info about the CPU, not control knobs :)
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Dmole: exactly :)
[21:19] <impiza> when i try to install teamviewer  it shows error
[21:19] <Dmole> BluesKaj: don't be to obvious now
[21:20] <KjetilK> TJ-, uh, ok
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> Dmole: folks jumping to conclusions without asking for any details is bad for user data
[21:20] <impiza> some ai32-libs missing
[21:20] <impiza> why
[21:20] <llutz> TJ-: wrong, you can override them using echo bla > var
[21:20] <KjetilK> this was something I experimented with back in the day before VDPAU, so I needed the CPU to do HD video playback
[21:20] <TJ-> llutz: They're read-only
[21:21] <TJ-> llutz: At least, on 2 systems here they are
[21:21] <llutz> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Nov 22 22:20 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq
[21:21] <SlitazMint> Dmole, Perform? I just removed them.
[21:21] <lduros_> hi, i'm looking for a way to use "Yahoo Messenger" with video and chat
[21:21] <BluesKaj> heh obvious , that's a good one
[21:22] <TJ-> llutz: It depends on the system then. I'm seeing "-r--r--r--"
[21:22] <lduros_> I don't really need to us e yahoo messenger itself, but pidgin doesn't allow video/audio
[21:22] <lduros_> with the yahoo protocol
[21:22] <amews_aj-study> BluesKaj But I'd like to use a tool a bit more thorough
[21:22] <Dmole> SlitazMint: like the reason I tryed using 3rd party drivers in the first place was the open ones were slow
[21:22] <TJ-> KjetilK: What does yours show for "ls -l /sys/devices/system/cpu/*/cpufreq/cpuinfo_min_freq"  ?
[21:23] <KjetilK> TJ-, -r--r--r--
[21:23] <SlitazMint> Dmole, no it doesn't "perform" at least I have my desktop back. I haven't given up on fglrx yet
[21:24] <KjetilK> so, I guess this could explain it, it fails there and doesn't execute the rest?
[21:24] <SlitazMint> Dmole, Where there is a will there is a way. =P
[21:24] <TJ-> KjetilK: Well, that explains why you don't see a change then :) Now you need to figure out the lirc issue
[21:24] <KjetilK> TJ-, could it be that since the cpufreq fails, the rest wasn't executed?
[21:25] <TJ-> KjetilK: The script is "-e" so that would make sense.
[21:25] <llutz> KjetilK: no
[21:25] <KjetilK> :-)
[21:25] <TJ-> KjetilK:  man dash:  " -e errexit       If not interactive, exit immediately if any untested command fails."
[21:26] <llutz> true you are, sry
[21:26] <Dmole> anyone ever see the right mouse click act as a left mouse click?
[21:27] <SlitazMint> ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: 294: ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: debclean: not found
[21:27] <invariant> How can I control what dpkg-reconfigure foopackage does without manually selecting the right value?
[21:27] <xangua> Dmole: when you set the mouse for left handed, yes
[21:27] <SlitazMint> What is that?
[21:27] <TJ-> KjetilK: You could just do " echo 1800000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq || true"
[21:28] <TJ-> KjetilK: That way, on systems where it fails it'll still return success to the shell and continue onwards
[21:29] <KjetilK> TJ-, yeah, I could but I just removed them since I don't need them anymore
[21:30] <KjetilK> thanks anyway, I'll check next time I boot the box
[21:34] <Dmole> hmmm http://askubuntu.com/questions/191864/right-mouse-button-doesnt-work
[21:38] <thnov> somethings up with kernel.ubuntu.com?
[21:38] <Dmole> ping 98ms; seems ok
[21:40] <Galvatron> thnov: Seemingly. I also can't access it.
[21:41] <Dmole> yah port 80 is timing out for me aswell
[21:42] <Dmole> 22 also
[21:44] <psiklops> hi. habts ihr ein OffTopic channel ?
[21:45] <psiklops> sorry
[21:45] <llutz> !ot | psiklops
[21:45] <psiklops> german ;-)
[21:45] <bekks> !de ¦ psiklops
[21:45] <bekks> !de | psiklops
[21:45] <llutz> psiklops:  #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[21:46] <psiklops> bekks, thanx, just forgot to punch in the -de ;-)
[21:49] <Dmole> SlitazMint: I seem to have a "Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series" and/or "Radeon HD 5000M Series"
[21:52] <SlitazMint> Dmole, HD4000 and below don't work on 12.10 anymore.
[21:52] <thnov> Dmole: That ping is probably answered by their load balancer.. getting HTTP content is another story though :)
[21:53] <Dmole> SlitazMint: only both 5000 and 4200 > 4000
[21:53] <Galvatron> SlitazMint: They do. You just have to install the legacy drivers (Catalyst 12.6).
[21:54] <SlitazMint> I meant HD 4000 series or lower.
[21:54] <SlitazMint> Dmole, ^
[21:54] <SlitazMint> oh
[21:54] <Dmole> Galvatron: only installing will fail and make you need to reinstall :(
[21:54] <SlitazMint> Galvatron, I'm having trouble with my AMD drivers on 12.10
[21:55] <SlitazMint> I have HD 6000 series.
[21:55] <Galvatron> The legacy drivers might already be incomaptible with the current X.org.
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> SlitazMint: there is a PPA for the legacy driver, the xorg in Quantal hates 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx ATi GPUs
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> SlitazMint: 6xxx should be ok
[21:55] <SlitazMint> I`ll try again them
[21:55] <SlitazMint> then
[21:56]  * SlitazMint crosses fingers.
[21:56] <Dmole> ppa here : http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> worth a punt, even with the newer chip. Its easily rolled back :)
[21:56] <Galvatron> To tell the truth, the users of HD4000 and lower should best switch to nVidia, to save time and nerves.
[21:57] <SlitazMint> ActionParsnip, Should I get fglrx or fglrx-updates or both?
[21:57] <SlitazMint> Galvatron ^
[21:59] <Galvatron> SlitazMint: ?
[22:00] <SlitazMint>  Should I get fglrx or fglrx-updates or both?
[22:00] <SlitazMint> Ok, definetly not both
[22:00] <SlitazMint> fglrx didn't work in ubuntu server 12.10 i know that much
[22:00] <SlitazMint> So maybe fglrx-update?
[22:00] <Galvatron> Best try the latest version from AMD's website
[22:01] <Galvatron> Try both stable and beta
[22:01] <SlitazMint> Galvatron, I already did.
[22:01] <SlitazMint> I'll try beta then.
[22:01] <SlitazMint> -___-
[22:01] <Galvatron> If even the latest drivers from AMD don't help, then installing those from the repo won't help
[22:02] <SlitazMint> I'm starting to hate AMD.
[22:02] <Galvatron> As they are likely older
[22:02] <bekks> Galvatron: newer != better ;)
[22:02] <Galvatron> Thet's the sad reality of AMD and X.org
[22:02] <dr_willis> apt-get make-a-wish-and-hope-for-the-best ;)
[22:02] <SlitazMint> Galvatron, Should I install or make a package then install?
[22:03] <dr_willis> there may be a ppa for the newer versions from the amd site
[22:03] <Galvatron> The ppa is called X-Updates/X-SWAT
[22:04] <Galvatron> It contains the latest stable version
[22:05] <Galvatron> There also the #ati channel, dedicated to support the propritera drivers, and #radeon, for the open ones
[22:05] <SlitazMint> Galvatron, Should I install or make a distro specific driver package?
[22:05] <Galvatron> Just install
[22:06] <irocksu> hi
[22:06] <irocksu> is there any professional spell checking software for ubuntu that goes beyond wordlists?
[22:07] <unrar> hi
[22:07] <irocksu> i am especially interested in german spell checking with plain text files
[22:08] <SlitazMint_noteb> Galvatron: Did not work, do you think it will work in 12.04?
[22:08] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: I'm enabling the updates driver in 12.04 now....
[22:09] <Galvatron> You mean the installer from AMD's website?
[22:09] <Dmole> (from the ubuntu "additional drivers" window)
[22:09] <Steve^> After 10 minutes my screen goes black, despite my power and brightness settings - is there a way to stop this happening?
[22:10] <Dmole> Steve^: 1) screensaver 2) powermanagement
[22:11] <JohnFlux> I'm trying to install ssl-cert on an ancient box but it's failing.  Is there a way to tell it to ignore failures in post install?
[22:11] <Steve^> Dmole, 12.10 doesn't have a screensaver, power management are all set off or very high, even all the random values I can find in dconf-editor
[22:11] <bekks> JohnFlux: Which Ubuntu is it?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> irocksu: don't all spellchecks use wordlists?
[22:11] <Dmole> maybe these driver  problems are related to the kernel.ubuntu.com being down?
[22:11] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  ive been trying to think how ELSE they could work. ;)
[22:12] <JohnFlux> bekks: not sure it is - it's an embedded system
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: exactly
[22:12] <SlitazMint_noteb> Dmole: Dont think so
[22:12] <JohnFlux> bekks: customised version
[22:12] <Dmole> SlitazMint_noteb: failed in 12.04 as well :(
[22:12] <bekks> JohnFlux: Basedon which Ubuntu version?
[22:13] <JohnFlux> bekks: debian squeeze
[22:13] <bekks> JohnFlux: Thats no Ubuntu then.
[22:13] <dr_willis> thats an odd ubuntu version. ;)
[22:14] <Dmole> why is it that modinfo can't find fglrx????????????
[22:14] <bekks> Dmole: Because it is not there.
[22:14] <auronandace> Dmole: lsmod will tell you what's loaded
[22:15] <Dmole> bekks: smart, ok better question why won't Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 install the recommended 3rdparty graphics driver ?
[22:16] <Dmole> auronandace: don't see how that will help
[22:16] <bekks> Dmole: Well, how did you install your driver then=
[22:16] <SlitazMint_noteb> Dmole: -___-
[22:16] <Dmole> bekks: SlitazMint_noteb and I are trying all kinds of options non of them working :/
[22:17] <Dmole> bekks: from the ubuntu "additional drivers" window
[22:17] <bekks> Dmole: "all" and "none"... well, unless you have a fglrx.ko kernelmodule, "none" will work.
[22:18] <OerHeks> some drivers need "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`" why i don't know ...
[22:19] <Dmole> bekks: and clicking the button should install it but somehow it's not working (fglrx is in lsmod btw)
[22:19] <bekks> Dmole: when lksmod shows fglrx, the module IS loaded already.
[22:19] <PaDouViRuS> hi
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: so it can plug into the kernel, for APIs and so forth :)
[22:20] <Dmole> bekks: so what's with the error message?
[22:21] <Dmole> I have to go pick up some people BBL SlitazMint_noteb, let me know if you find anything
[22:21] <gskellik> I just switched from unity to gnome3 and I like it a lot more
[22:21] <gskellik> except the multiple desktops
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> gskellik: unity uses gnome3
[22:21] <gskellik> I know ActionParsnip, I meant I stopped using unity
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> gskellik: unity isn't a desktop environment
[22:21] <SlitazMint_noteb> Dmole: Ok
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> gskellik: ;)
[22:21] <gskellik> I know
[22:22] <gskellik> -_-
[22:22] <gskellik> lol
[22:22] <gskellik> anyway
[22:22] <gskellik> is there a way to get a 2x2 desktop back instead of the 1xwhatever
[22:22] <FloodBot1> gskellik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> gskellik: what windows manager are you using?
[22:23] <auronandace> gskellik: gnome-shell dynamically gives you as much workspaces as you are using plus 1
[22:24] <josephagarenzo> HI i was wondering how to uninstall world of warcraft i tried sudo apt-get remove world of warcraft but its saying that world of warcraft isnt the right file location or something
[22:25] <dr_willis> How did you install it?
[22:25] <gskellik> auronandace, yeah thats why I said 1x whatever I meant is there a way to get it to have 2x2 instead
[22:25] <OpenSorce> josephagarenzo, I would assume you used wine to install it right?
[22:25] <k1l> josephagarenzo: 1. which ubuntu? 2. how did you install? 3. what is the exact output/errormessage?
[22:25] <gskellik> I just liked the unity desktop switching more than the gnome3 one
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> josephagarenzo: WoW is a windows game, not installed as a package
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> josephagarenzo: so apt-get won't see it
[22:25] <auronandace> gskellik: not that i know of, check out their extension site
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> josephagarenzo: also NONE of the package names have spaces
[22:26] <gskellik> =(
[22:26] <gskellik> extensions.gnome3.org?
[22:26] <josephagarenzo> well im runnign on ubuntu 12.10 wine of course
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> josephagarenzo: if you go into the installed folder for the game and find the uninstaller app, you can run that with wine and it will remove
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> josephagarenzo: or try running:   uninstaller
[22:27] <josephagarenzo> i think i tried that but ill try again,tried running the uninstaller but it didnt work
[22:27] <auronandace> gskellik: almost: https://extensions.gnome.org/
[22:28] <dr_willis> josephagarenzo:  depending on how you installed it exactly. there may be a .wine directory you can just delete
[22:28] <dr_willis> playonlinux and other wine-helpers may use other directoriues
[22:28] <auronandace> josephagarenzo: also you can ask in #winehq for wine specific help
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> josephagarenzo: dr_willis: if you do you will need to delete the icons from ~/.config/menus/applications-merged
[22:29] <josephagarenzo> i see well im going to try .wine but i cant run the uninstaller through wine i think,going to try an figure this out
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> josephagarenzo: if you still see icons in dash, check that folder
[22:31] <josephagarenzo> k
[22:33] <sambagirl> how do i uninstall chrome? apt-get remove chrome ??? or use the ubuntu software center?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: sudo apt-get --purge remove google-chrome
[22:34] <dr_willis> apt-get and the software center do the same thang. ;)
[22:35] <sambagirl> actionparsnip i just checked ubuntu software center and it shows install for chromiuim...that is wierd cause it's on here already
[22:36] <sambagirl> okie dokie
[22:36] <k1l> chrome and chromium are not the same thing
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: chromim and googe-chrome are similar but not the sme
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> *same
[22:36] <sambagirl> ahhh i see
[22:36] <sambagirl> which is preferred?
[22:36] <sambagirl> chrome is very buggy
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: chromium is the open source one
[22:36] <k1l> !chromium | sambagirl
[22:36] <sambagirl> oh ok
[22:36] <sambagirl> thanks
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: chrome is a snapshot of chromium, then some proprietary blobs (pdf reader, flash) are add
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> ed
[22:37] <k1l> hmm, well that is not the expected message
[22:37] <sambagirl> ahh i see
[22:37] <sambagirl> thanks
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: so it depends on your preference, neither is preferred, its a personal choice
[22:37] <sambagirl> sudo apt-get --purge remove google-chrome
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: I use chrom as it make flash stuff run better for me
[22:37] <sambagirl> that didnt work
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: try:  sudo apt-get --purge remove chromium-browser
[22:38] <sambagirl> yes but chrome is having fits on practically all platforms i use. even the one for iphone
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: on my android phone I use opera mini. Its so fast!
[22:39] <sambagirl> i use opera on android too
[22:39] <sambagirl> i'll install chronium since chrome wont remove
[22:39] <sambagirl> i'm back to usinng firefox basically
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: try:  dpkg -l | grep chrom
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: should give clues :)
[22:42] <sambagirl> ok
[22:47] <sambagirl> this may sound a little strange but i was wondering if there could be internal software code fighting on computers due to wars between competitors?
[22:48] <sdddssd> hi all
[22:48] <doomlord> there is such a thing as vendor specific spyware i think
[22:48] <sdddssd> can you help me
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> sdddssd: ask and see :)
[22:49] <auronandace> sambagirl: the scope of this channel is just ubuntu support
[22:49] <sambagirl> this is relevant to support auronandance
[22:49] <lwizardl> I want to create a custom Xubuntu LiveCD with preconfigured applications etc, is there a tool for doing this ?
[22:49] <sdddssd> ActionParsnip: well i want to install ubuntu
[22:49] <sambagirl> because support is irrelevant if indeed that is what is occuring
[22:49] <auronandace> sambagirl: no it isn't, ubuntu is open source, check the code yourself if you don't trust it
[22:50] <sambagirl> i can check the code but i cant check binary libraries
[22:50] <k1l> sambagirl: cmon, stick to ubuntu support here. for other stuff we have #ubuntu-offtopic e.g.
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> sdddssd: ok, what is the issue?
[22:51] <sdddssd> ActionParsnip: well i want to install ubuntu
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> sdddssd: then grab the ISO, MD5 test it and burn to a CD as slowly as posible. Boot to the CD
[22:51] <sdddssd> ActionParsnip: no i mean cant decide between gnome shell and unity
[22:51] <sdddssd> ActionParsnip: can you  help me to decide? (no i don't want to have them both!)
[22:52] <Cong> I want to add an extra palce here http://i50.tinypic.com/1jsz82.png
[22:52] <k1l> sdddssd: take unity.
[22:52] <sdddssd> k1l: ok but why?
[22:52] <k1l> sdddssd: why not?
[22:52] <k1l> :)
[22:52] <sdddssd> k1l: so i prefer gnome shell a bit
[22:52] <Dmole> sdddssd: because it's newer, and supported
[22:53] <sdddssd> k1l: but if the integration isn't good ...
[22:53] <k1l> sdddssd: then use the gnome-shell.
[22:53] <auronandace> sdddssd: unity is just an alternative shell to gnome-shell, both are on top of gnome3, having them both installed will hardly take up any extra room
[22:53] <k1l> sdddssd: this is if you ask someone which is the best car. since we are a bmw channel the first answer will be: bmw :)
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> sdddssd: Try Unity, its default installed.
[22:53] <almoxarife> ConG
[22:53] <sdddssd> gnome shell installation needs much of improments
[22:53] <sdddssd> gnome shell installation needs much of improvements
[22:54] <k1l> sdddssd: ? just install the metapackage. or what do you mean?
[22:54] <sdddssd> the theme is horrible
[22:54] <sdddssd> and the icon set is the grey gnome default one
[22:55] <dr_willis> looks fine to me.
[22:55] <dr_willis> Not sure how that  all is ubuntu support specific either.. ;)
[22:55] <auronandace> sdddssd: what does default theme and iconset have to do with the installation process?
[22:55] <dr_willis> since they are rather trivial to change
[22:55] <doomlord> sdddssd: Out of the box, Unity is much better than Gnome-Shell.Gnome Shell seems more configurable, but all the extensions i tried to get it how i wanted it were slightly buggy. If you know javascript you can probably get gnome-shell to do anything you want.
[22:56] <doomlord> the defaults in gnome-shell are terrible
[22:56] <sdddssd> yes
[22:56] <sdddssd> :)
[22:56] <dr_willis> cant really say ive noticed... or were bothered by them
[22:56] <sdddssd> and the other thing is should I take 12.04 or 12.10?
[22:57] <doomlord> i think gnome-shell properly setup would please me more - but i haven't been bothered putting as much time into it. I use unity, or gnome-classic
[22:57] <dr_willis> 12.10 has newer packages
[22:57] <Cong> How about this. Was this place in the menu designed to be added to? http://i50.tinypic.com/1jsz82.png
[22:57] <auronandace> sdddssd: 12.04 = 5 years support; 12.10 = 18 months support and newer packages
[22:57] <doomlord> i've had 1 problem with 12.10: unity doesn't work with my nvidia graphics card (hence i'm backto gnome-classic there)
[22:57] <sdddssd> well okay then I'll try ubuntu 12.10
[22:58] <sdddssd> i'll thank you very much, a very big thanks of my inner heart
[22:58] <doomlord> elsewhere 12.10 is fine
[22:58] <sdddssd> my inner heart is very pleased to have talked with you
[22:58] <sdddssd> .
[22:59] <dr_willis> Cong:  i only have a Move To Trash....  not sure how you got a Move To Desktop. ;)
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> doomlord: which nvidia gpu?
[22:59] <doomlord> gtx 640. gl itself works fine. its just compiz broken
[22:59] <nomad77> ignore parts
[22:59] <doomlord> i bought it for 4screen joy
[23:00] <Cong> dr_willis, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:00] <doomlord> the ability to use 4 screens pleases me more than the loss of compiz
[23:00] <dr_willis> Cong:  12.10
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> doomlord: I'd just run with what you have, compiz makes things slow :)
[23:00] <Cong> dr_willis, that's why.
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> doomlord: what are you using 4 screens for? Damn
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> doomlord: We use 4 at work but we are monitoring multiple sites and hundreds of customer sites and kit
[23:01] <dr_willis> Got 2 Screens here. ;) Noticed i could add a 3rd... :)
[23:01] <doomlord> ActionParsnip, the experience of a Macbook Pro has taught me , desktop effects are genuinely useful. I found a macbook pro as productive as a desktop machine with 2 screens because the expose/spaces worked so well in conjunction with the multitouch trackpad
[23:01] <dr_willis> One for IRC, one for Videos. ;)
[23:02] <Cong> I'm going to give up the chase to change things!
[23:02] <doomlord> ActionParsnip, coding, i set them up thinking it was a gimmick, now I'm used to it and dont look back. I have emacs setup to automatically bring up definitions on spare windows to the side as you navigate a sourcebase :)
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> doomlord: ahh makes sense
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> I have 1 screen for 4 systems. SSH and web interfces are great :)
[23:04] <doomlord> ah the inverse ... i'd get claustrophobic with 1 screen - unless i had a multitouch gesture to zoom out :)
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> doomlord: why? all it's for is web browsing and chatting. why would you need more?
[23:04] <doomlord> My perfect setup stilll doesn't exist. I'd like desktop switching that was multimonitor aware: each moniitor displaying a different desktop, ability to switch desktops to any screen
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> doomlord: sounds like workspaces, you could have a workspace on each screen and switch them around (in theory)
[23:07] <doomlord> yes that's what i'd like. everything i've seen on linux swiches all monitors together. Of course with maximized single windows you can just pul them between monitors.. you could argue there's much less need for workspaces with multimonitors
[23:08] <dr_willis> gnome shell does  the seconc monitor weirdly ive noticed
[23:08] <k1l> dr_willis: i ilke the way its handeled
[23:09] <doomlord> even plain expo doesn't really do what you'd really like
[23:09] <dr_willis> with gnome shell it acts likes its broken. ;)
[23:09] <billbill> hi
[23:09] <billbill> i need some help setting up my ssh server
[23:09] <Dmole> ho
[23:09] <doomlord> ah yeah i think i recall it getting confused with its (useless)panel
[23:09] <billbill> im pretty new here
[23:10] <dr_willis> billbill:  install the package.. its done.. ;) what more do you need?
[23:10] <billbill> well i need to set up portforwarding and my public ip address
[23:10] <billbill> i do not know where to find this
[23:10] <dr_willis> Totally depends on how your network is setup.
[23:10] <Dmole> billbill: in your router
[23:11] <doomlord> i can't launch ubuntu-one under gnome-classic, i tried the commandline command
[23:11] <billbill> ok i went in router and open the ports
[23:11] <billbill> where do i find my public ip address?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> billbill: you'll need your router manual
[23:12] <billbill> ok i will go try look for that and read
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> billbill: access the config web page and forward porrt 22/TCP to the IP of the server system. You can then use http://www.ipchicken.com to get your WAN IP and connect to it
[23:12] <k1l> billbill: that depends on your router (which is no ubuntu issue). or use a homepage like whatismyip.com  or smth like this
[23:12] <billbill> i have the ssh client setup i just do not know what to send to people to log in and test it
[23:13] <billbill> so my public ip address is what whatsmyip dishes out at me
[23:13] <billbill> ?
[23:13] <billbill> i know it
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> billbill: the IP address from ipchicken on port 22
[23:13] <billbill> so i send out this user@ip
[23:13] <billbill> ok ill try that
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> billbill: the username is the name on the server system which they use to authenticate with
[23:15] <crimsonmane> billbill: for ssh to work, you must enable port forwarding on your router, specifically port 22
[23:16] <crimsonmane> oh that was already said.
[23:16] <crimsonmane> sry didn't scroll back
[23:16] <billbill> how do i do that
[23:16] <SlitazMint> crimsonmane, you in here too?
[23:16] <billbill> how do i enable port forwarding
[23:16] <billbill> i hoping once i get this setup i can ask a friend to log in and help me once he can access the network
[23:17] <billbill> im very new to linux, like 5 days into it
[23:17] <SlitazMint> billbill, you need to access your router's ip through a browser.
[23:18] <billbill> i have done that
[23:18] <crimsonmane> SlitazMint: for now i am. until the ops get upity with me again.
[23:18] <billbill> i am on the router now
[23:18] <Duff005> hi
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> billbill: port forwarding is OS independant, so being 'new to linux' isn't a factor in setting up port forwarding in  router
[23:18] <billbill> ok but it seems beyond me and making it hard to get ubuntu running
[23:19] <billbill> i thought i could get help here, i do not mean to disturb
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> billbill: the fact that you are using ubuntu is mooted by the fact thatthe router uses a web interface, so it will be no different to if you were using Windows. The web interface doesn't change because you are using WIndows
[23:19] <doomlord> try #linux aswell but they tend to be snottier there
[23:19] <billbill> is there anyone who can help me in a pm get this setup
[23:19] <crimsonmane> billbill: in your web browser go to "192.168.1.1"
[23:20] <billbill> i am there
[23:20] <crimsonmane> did it ask for username and password?
[23:20] <crimsonmane> defaults are "user user" or "admin admin" or "user admin" or such like that
[23:20] <doomlord> its funny how it can be easier to use an internet connection & cloud service to get between machines in the same room sometimes :)
[23:20] <k1l> billbill: this is router related. best ask in #hardware or in our offtopic channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:20] <billbill> on router actually..options are internet connection wireless firewall 2701hg-g gateway
[23:21] <crimsonmane> billbill: click wireless
[23:21] <Dmole> SlitazMint: still no luck, giving up
[23:21] <crimsonmane> billbill: look around in there for "port forwarding" or "port triggering" ... pref "forwarding"
[23:21] <SlitazMint> Dmole, I have an idea.
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> billbill: what make and model is the router?
[23:22] <Dmole> SlitazMint: install windows?
[23:22] <Duff005> hi i from argentina
[23:22] <billbill> done it is a 2wire from bell
[23:22] <cordyceps> my partitions used to be automatically mounted on /media/<UUID> whenever I booted. Now I have to do it manually. What gives?
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> Duff005: howdy
[23:22] <SlitazMint> I'm gonna try to install fglrx-updates instead of fglrx while following the ubuntu documentation.
[23:22] <billbill> i apprecaite the help guys
[23:23] <SlitazMint> Dmole, other linux distros don't seem to have this problem I just came from Mint and it worked fine.
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> cordyceps: what options are on the partitions in fstab?
[23:23] <Dmole> SlitazMint: I tried both on both releases
[23:23] <SlitazMint> Dmole, did you follow the docu?
[23:24] <Dmole> SlitazMint: I just clicked install on the 3rd party drivers window
[23:24] <SlitazMint> Oh I see. That's basically the same thing but with a GUI.
[23:25] <Dmole> SlitazMint: I also tried the bin from the amd site ~
[23:25] <cordyceps> ActionParsnip: there aren't any. I wrote in: user,auto,exec,rw but it still didn't work. I have to do it from the cli
[23:25] <SlitazMint> I don't have the "Additional Hardware" program. I'm on mini ubuntu.
[23:25] <SlitazMint> Dmole, I tried both version from AMD site.
[23:25] <cordyceps> mount -t jfs etc
[23:25] <Dmole> SlitazMint: In  12.10 it's in the software sourses
[23:25] <SlitazMint> Dmole, Don't give up on Linux, use some other distro.
[23:26] <SlitazMint> Other distros work for me.
[23:26] <SlitazMint> Dmole, I have no Software Sources either. =P
[23:26] <billbill> i cant seem to find anything about port forwarding
[23:26] <SlitazMint> I have basically nothing, just Mate.
[23:27] <wessly> any blackfriday computer discounts/deals/promos?
[23:27] <rootpt> ?? vim
[23:27] <k1l> !offtopic | wessly
[23:27] <Dmole> SlitazMint: I _need_ an encryped laptop before tomorrow so I think I'll just live without 3d drivers then go back to OSX when I finish with this temp disposable laptop
[23:27] <SlitazMint> Dmole, you gonna try another distro?
[23:28] <SlitazMint> Dmole, Oh I see.
[23:28] <Dmole> SlitazMint: next time I'll try mint or centos but I'm giving up for this time
[23:29] <SlitazMint> Mint was very nice, I just got Ubuntu Mini because I wanted more control of what is installed. I don't like having a bunch of stuff installed by default.
[23:29] <Dmole> SlitazMint: good luck, and be sure to add whatever solution you find to the wiki it you find a solution.
[23:30] <SlitazMint> Dmole, I think we just have to wait for Ubuntu devs to see what Mint did that they didn't. =P
[23:30] <SlitazMint> Thanks.
[23:30] <SlitazMint> Mint is based on Ubuntu that is what I don't understand, if it works on one it should work on the other.
[23:31] <k1l> SlitazMint: Dmole well, that is a topic that better suits in the #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:31] <k1l> since its far beyond the support stage
[23:31] <SlitazMint> k1l, You are right.
[23:31] <crimsonmane> billbill: where are you at on the port forwarding?
[23:31] <crimsonmane> i had to step away
[23:31] <SlitazMint> crimsonmane to the rescue!
[23:32] <cordyceps> my partitions used to be automatically mounted on /media/<UUID> whenever I booted. Now I have to do it manually: mount -t <fs> /dev/sdn /mnt. Adding a line to fstab doesn't work.
[23:32] <Dmole> k1l: look we were not able to get drivers working in ubuntu after a whole day of trying stuff, we are just leaving so cool the off topic remarks
[23:32] <cordyceps> anybody know a fix?
[23:36] <almoxarife> cordyceps: adding the exact line from /etc/mtab to /etc/fstab does not work?
[23:36] <Luster> hello
[23:39] <CopaceticMan> Hi, this is the place to get help for a problem, no?
[23:40] <almoxarife> !ask
[23:40] <causative> in 12.04 how do I configure the launcher bar on the left?  Right clicking it no longer brings up a settings menu
[23:41] <CopaceticMan> Ok, so I have installed the latest version of FreeMat. Everytime I run it from the console it tells me I need libpcre.so.0. For the life of me, I cannot figure out how to get this directory. What is the command to install this directory?
[23:42] <causative> specifically I want to make the launcher bar hide when I'm not using it
[23:42] <almoxarife> !info libpcre
[23:43] <trism> causative: System Settings/Appearance/Behavior
[23:43] <almoxarife> !info pcre
[23:44] <CopaceticMan> Ok, so this version of FreeMat is not compatible with 12.10? because the package does not exist in 12.10
[23:45] <causative> trism, it had been overridden by an external program so I clicked restore to default, then turned hiding on
[23:45] <causative> but now it won't show up at all even when I move my bar to the left or to the top left corner
[23:45] <causative> er, move my mouse to the left or the top left corner
[23:46] <almoxarife> CopaceticMan: i cant really say, i was hoping it came up, but i have no clue what you are installing to begin with so i was just trying to pull a needle from the haystack
[23:46] <dr_willis> ive seen some bugs with using the auto hide feature of the left side launcher.
[23:46] <CopaceticMan> http://freemat.sourceforge.net/
[23:46] <CopaceticMan> It is a matlab like program
[23:46] <almoxarife> CopaceticMan: but google may be your friend, http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/03/how-to-fix-this-error-error-while.html
[23:48] <omerta> hi, i've put this script under /etc/init.d: http://bash.nopaste.dk/p15470
[23:48] <omerta> and then started it as described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto#Installing_custom_init-scripts
[23:48] <omerta> but first two lines don't have any effect on boot
[23:49] <Pulcherior> Elo ubuntu people
[23:51] <causative> ah found the solution
[23:51] <trism> causative: what was it?
[23:51] <causative> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1965991&page=9
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Pulcherior: great band :)
[23:51] <omerta> well the original script is without "&&"s, since third line won't get executed otherwise
[23:51] <omerta> any idea what's causing this?
[23:53] <wissam> Hi ,i have avermedia pci analog tv card but no sound in tvtime or kradio4
[23:53] <almoxarife> omerta: whats it suppose to do?
[23:54] <wissam> after doing some search i can hear sound with this command "tvtime | arecord -D hw:1,0 -r 32000 -c 2 -f S16_LE | aplay - +"
[23:54] <almoxarife> wissam: the place to ask is #xbmc
[23:54] <wissam> when runing tvtime command at the command line i got this two errors :
[23:54] <omerta> almoxarife, it changes ondemand cpu governor's up threshold and sampling down factor
[23:54] <wissam> almoxarife: Ok thnx
[23:55] <omerta> last line scales down ati vga's frequency
[23:55] <almoxarife> omerta: does it happen if you send the echos after bootup?
[23:55] <omerta> echoing manually works
[23:56] <almoxarife> omerta: are you echo'ing to a process that has not started when done at boot up?
[23:57] <omerta> almoxarife, sorry, it doesn't work manually
[23:57] <omerta> it says permission denied even with sudo
[23:58] <almoxarife> omerta: good luck, :)
[23:58] <omerta> hehe thanks