[00:00] <drcping> hi, I have a problem with the wifi on xubuntu. when I connect to my router and type ifconfig or iwconfig everything looks good, but when I type sudo dhclient wlan0 he doesn't find anything. I tried conecting to another wifi and that worked without problems.
[00:00] <recon_lap> prpl: if that where it's mounted, I dont know, go have a look
[00:00] <prpl> thats where it is in the directory tree
[00:00] <drcping> all my other diveces connect to my wifi withut problems.
[00:03] <recon_lap> prpl:  do a ls -r /media/26GB_EXT4_Storge
[00:04] <prpl> recon_lap...lost+found
[00:05] <prpl> that's it
[00:06] <prpl> so what wouuld be the magic line that will change it to username accessible ?
[00:07] <prpl> sudo chown prpl:group /media/26GB_EXT4_Storge
[00:08] <recon_lap> sudo chown  yourusername:yourgroup  /media/26GB_EXT4_Storge -R
[00:08] <prpl> dont know the group nME
[00:08] <prpl> name*
[00:09] <recon_lap> prpl do a ls -l in you home dir, it'll be beside you user name, probably the same
[00:10] <recon_lap> sudo chown prpl:prpl /media/26GB_EXT4_Storge -R , but I accept no responsibility to any damage that might result from using this command :)
[00:11] <prpl> the group name is my username ?
[00:11] <recon_lap> prpl, it's the default. so probably
[00:11] <prpl> or is it a 4 digit number ?
[00:12] <recon_lap> prpl:  that would be the file size in blocks i think , when you do a ls -l , do you see prpl prpl ?
[00:13] <recon_lap> username usergroup
[00:13] <prpl> drwxr-xr-x 2 prpl prpl 4096 Nov 20 15:11 Desktop
[00:13] <prpl> is the first of several similar after ls -l in home directory
[00:13] <recon_lap> so your group is prpl
[00:14] <prpl> ok....so I will try that then
[00:17] <prpl> is there a space before the semi colon ?
[00:18] <recon_lap> prpl no, prpl:prpl
[00:18] <prpl> ty
[00:18] <recon_lap> bloody smiley
[00:19] <prpl> no spelling mistakes allowed
[00:21] <recon_lap> right, thats me for today, goodluck prpl
[00:21] <prpl> many thanks recon_lap
[00:21] <recon_lap> yw
[00:21] <prpl> may your...always be....
[00:22] <prpl> you fill it in
[00:23] <prpl> does one have to login after chown-ing a partition for it to kick in ?
[00:24] <prpl> or reboot or anything ?
[00:52] <joffery> im using xubuntu 12.10, fresh install.  i go to the ubuntu software center and whenever i hit install, it just does nothing.  why would this be?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1376149/ here is the traceback when i run from terminal and hit "install"
[01:07] <v1adimir> lsb_release -a
[01:07] <v1adimir> oops
[01:07] <v1adimir> lsb_release -a shows up ok? @ joffery
[01:08] <joffery> No LSB modules are available.
[01:08] <joffery> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[01:08] <joffery> Description:	Ubuntu 12.10
[01:08] <joffery> Release:	12.10
[01:08] <joffery> Codename:	quantal
[01:08] <v1adimir> cool
[03:02] <nencinip> Hello to everyone
[03:03] <nencinip> Some one have exprience on Xfce 4.10 and set dual head monitor resolution ?
[03:04] <well_laid_lawn> nencinip: what part are you having trouble with?
[03:07] <nencinip> i'm try to set a Radeon 9200 (rv280) to dual head, with different monitor resolution
[03:07] <nencinip> however, the result is, all 2 monitor have same res. Why?
[03:08] <pgib> hey guys. I really want to install 12.10, but I cannot get it to show up in my update manager.  http://xubuntu.org/upgrading/  I don't see anything about a new Xubuntu release. Synaptic shows the latest version of xubuntu packages as 12.04.11...
[03:08] <well_laid_lawn> are you using amd's proprietry graphics driver?
[03:09] <well_laid_lawn> nencinip: ^
[03:09] <well_laid_lawn> pgib: have you updated ?
[03:10] <nencinip> i suppose that are the open one, lsmod return "radeon"
[03:11] <well_laid_lawn> nencinip: you should be able to set that up in xfce's display settings afaik
[03:11] <well_laid_lawn> you  might need to use something like arandr
[03:11] <well_laid_lawn> !info arandr
[03:11] <tinah> hey, any alternative to network-manager and wicd to connect/manage wireless connection?
[03:12] <tinah> network-manager seems so buggy
[03:12] <nencinip> i've tried to set XFCE using display.xml, but result is ever 1° monitor res= 2° monitor res
[03:13] <pgib> well_laid_lawn, I've done "check for updates" and have updated everything, except for two tor packages that won't upgrade anymore because they aren't from authenticated sources..
[03:14] <well_laid_lawn> nencinip: see if arandr helps   sudo apt-get install arandr
[03:14] <nencinip> goiing to trying arand... (thanks at now)
[03:15] <well_laid_lawn> pgib: I don't know why it wouldn't show. you might need to try the command line option
[03:17] <pgib> I've tried 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade'
[03:17] <pgib> is there a special repository for 12.10?
[03:18] <pgib> ahha "Only notify me of new LTS versions" was selected.  But now, it says "New Ubuntu release '12.10' is available"  I don't want Ubuntu though...
[03:19] <well_laid_lawn> it checks what packages you have and upgrades those
[03:19] <well_laid_lawn> ubuntu and xubuntu use the same repos
[03:19] <well_laid_lawn> so it will upgrade xfce not add unity
[03:20] <pgib> ok, I know they differ mainly by the default packages, I just didn't want it to pull in god-awful Gnome
[06:01] <ms_> hi all :)
[06:02] <ms_> I have problem in ubuntu. when I shut down my pc it shows me:"Failed to receive a reply from the session manager. Session manager must be in idle state when requesting a shutdown" and refuse to stop. idea??
[06:20] <skumar> Hi, I'm thinking of installing Xubuntu, I've been using KDE for the past 6 years and Gnome before that.
[06:21] <skumar> Looking for something snappy, but read reviews that Xubuntu is getting bigger and bigger
[06:21] <skumar> and losing the snapiness. Is it all wrong and should I go ahead and setup and configure
[06:22] <skumar> or are they right ...and I won't see a lot of difference between Xubuntu and Kubuntu ?
[06:23] <ruien> i'm sure it's getting bigger and bigger, but so is everything else. I think Xfce is a fantastic desktop environment and less resource-intensive than KDE. But if you ask about speed, i'm not sure. They may both be fast if you have sufficient RAM, but likely Xfce will use less of that RAM.
[06:24] <ruien> But, i personally use Xfce because i like the design best, not because it's faster than some other environment
[06:39] <skumar> ok
[06:41] <skumar> If I look at it from the very top ...it is quite sad that none of the distributions I've tried U/Kubuntu, Suse are snappy in the long run when compared to windows.
[06:41] <skumar> maybe it is fast in the beginning but it eventaully slows down.
[06:42] <skumar> I don't know what it is ...whether it is resource allocation and book-keeping or if it is window manager.
[06:44] <skumar> I'll give X/Lubuntu a try and see.
[06:49] <xubuntu528> downloaded a live image of xubuntu 12.10 and booted my laptop with it, but when I try to install to hard disk by clicking on the desktop icon, nothing appears to happen
[06:52] <xubuntu528> tried using terminal to type the command, but it throws up an error "Fatal Python error: Py_Initilaize: Unable to get the locale encoding"
[06:53] <xubuntu528> any suggestions?
[07:56] <tomyl> hi I'm running xubuntu 12.04 and firefox is misbehaving after installing latest updates, if I try to resize the window it becomes very small and freezes, is this a known problem already?
[07:58] <tomyl> happens with fresh firefox profile (no addons) too
[07:58] <tomyl> seems to affect thunderbird too
[09:02] <ms_> and, how to run "metacity" by default when I just open my desktop??
[09:11] <ms_> could someone tell something here? no???
[09:12] <frogman1984> no idea sorry...
[09:14] <ms_> doesn't matter, it's already ok :) but now, how to activate "window manager", and "window manager tweaks" please?
[09:14] <ruien> same here; i've not had any experience with metacity.
[09:16] <Mike-Linux-NL> Hello :)
[09:17] <Mike-Linux-NL> Does somebody else has the issue in Xubuntu on a laptop that the external mouse is freezing randomly?
[09:17] <Mike-Linux-NL> trackpad works still fine when mouse freezes up.
[09:18] <tomatopotato> interesting
[09:18] <frogman1984> Mike-Linux-NL not yet...
[09:18] <ruien> I've used xubuntu 12.04 on three laptops since april and have not seen that problem.
[09:18] <Mike-Linux-NL> i think its the latest kernel update that caused it
[09:18] <well_laid_lawn> check dmesg in a terminal
[09:18] <Mike-Linux-NL> and i must say, its very very annoying :)
[09:19] <ms_> Mike-Linux-NL, everytime I got it I push the power button, oops!!!
[09:19] <Mike-Linux-NL> well, when it freezes up, i have to click a few times, and then it starts working again. its not the mouse, cause under windows it keeps working fine with no issues at all.. when using the trackpad i dont have that issue. but it seems that xubuntu can not handle trackpad and external wireless mouse at the same time
[09:20] <ruien> and nothing related in `dmesg` at all?
[09:20] <tomatopotato> hrmm sounds like mouse goes in sleep mode or something lol
[09:21] <Mike-Linux-NL> i havent had that issue before. and i see a lot of bugs being filed on launchpad related to the same issue. it seems to apply on all *buntu derivates in 12.04 and 12.10
[09:21] <well_laid_lawn> can be a usb port starting to fail
[09:21] <well_laid_lawn> too
[09:21] <Mike-Linux-NL> ruien: no, cause it works after a few secs again
[09:21] <tomatopotato> welll then its a bug i guess, do they have any solution to this on launchpad?
[09:21] <Mike-Linux-NL> yeah.. i have 4... happens on all of them
[09:21] <frogman1984> Infra Red sensor?? :-)
[09:22] <Mike-Linux-NL> no.. its been filed a 100 times by now..
[09:22] <tomatopotato> prolly they dont know what its cousing that problem yet
[09:23] <tomatopotato> maybe its a ool situation and you must wait till they figure out
[09:24] <tomatopotato> dmesg says nothing before and nothing after?
[09:24] <tomatopotato> like while its worknig, and when it stops working , and when it starts working again, are there any new lines in dmesg?
[09:25] <tomatopotato> and is it always in same cycles? like every 5 minutes, or only in specific task, application
[09:25] <Mike-Linux-NL> the thing is, as soon the mouse freezes up, if i use the trackpad it works, and then on the external mouse too... it looks like it hibernates the external mouse for a few secs... haha
[09:25] <Mike-Linux-NL> and it happens randomly
[09:25] <Mike-Linux-NL> within 15 to 40 secs
[09:26] <Mike-Linux-NL> so in very short time periods....
[09:26] <well_laid_lawn> I wonder if it is a udev setting
[09:26] <tomatopotato> you didnt asnwer the question about demsg
[09:27] <Mike-Linux-NL> doin it right now
[09:30] <Mike-Linux-NL> here is the DMESG txt: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4260461/web/dmesg-mouse-issue.txt
[09:33] <tomatopotato> is thi[s before orafter?
[09:34] <tomatopotato> is the laptop on energy save mode?
[09:35] <tomatopotato> might be related
[09:35] <tomatopotato> or does this happen even when the power is connected or only on battery?
[10:59] <prasad> hello, I my media player are unable to recognize the media buttons on the keyboard. Just play next and previous
[10:59] <prasad> am running xubuntu 12.10
[10:59] <prasad> on a dell inspiron N5010
[10:59] <TheSheep> prasad: try selecting a different keyboard model in the keyboard settings
[11:00] <prasad> I have tried a few variations. Can someone tell me hot to identify which keyboard layout I have
[11:01] <TheSheep> meant model, not layout
[11:02] <TheSheep> the model name is usually printed on a sticker on the back side of your keyboard
[11:02] <TheSheep> next to the serial number
[11:02] <Yoan> Hi, i want to ask somethin :)
[11:02] <Yoan> about xubuntu 12.10
[11:02] <Yoan> about xubuntu 12.10
[11:03] <Yoan> i love the task manager who is it in ubuntu, but in xubuntu is awful, how to return it ?
[11:03] <prasad> yeah. I have tried that too...it doesnt help. And im on a laptop. No keyboard model is shown
[11:04] <prasad> can i post links on this channel?
[11:04] <Yoan> try
[11:05] <Yoan> www.google.com
[11:05] <Yoan> well, it can :)
[11:05] <prasad> no, i meant does it violate any rules
[11:05] <prasad> http://www.laptopskeyboard.com/dell-inspiron-keyboard/3402-replacement-for-dell-inspiron-n5010-keyboard-kr-layout.html
[11:06] <Yoan> what about this kayboard ?
[11:06] <prasad> i am having trouble getting some of my media keys to work on xubuntu 12.10. TheSheep advised me to change the keyboard model
[11:07] <ms_> hi all! just a question: what is winrar(windows) in xubuntu?
[11:07] <prasad> i was wondering how to detect the model
[11:07] <Yoan> does it work on other distributons or Windows ?
[11:07] <prasad> yeah. It even worked on mint
[11:07] <Yoan> it's 7zip
[11:07] <prasad> just not working in xubuntu
[11:07] <Yoan> software centre
[11:07] <Yoan> well the problem is in xubuntu
[11:08] <Yoan> and i have problems with brighest on Linux on alll
[11:08] <Yoan> but i have solution
[11:08] <prasad> all my buttons except play next previous and pgup work
[11:08] <ms_> but I opened a .rar with 7zip, it wasn't opening!?
[11:08] <Yoan> search in serach on software centre
[11:08] <Yoan> ,,rar''
[11:08] <Yoan> and install the first
[11:09] <Yoan> without this of course: ,,''
[11:09] <ms_> Yoan, ok, I'll give a feedback after. :)
[11:09] <Yoan> ok
[11:09] <Yoan> btw prasad i haveproblems with screen also :D
[11:10] <Yoan> my screen trembling
[11:10] <Yoan> :D
[11:10] <Yoan> only in Linux
[11:10] <Yoan> in Windows - No, brighest - also is working :|
[11:11] <prasad> sorry Yoan, I am a noob myself.
[11:11] <Yoan> and i :D
[11:11] <Yoan> i don't know how to repair the trembling
[11:11] <Yoan> ;(
[11:12] <Yoan> but i ignore him, because i hate windows and love linux
[11:12] <Yoan> now i'm in LIVE Cd, installing Xubuntu :D
[11:12] <ms_> Yoan, It's written: "This program is shareware and you must register it after 40 days of use." "Unarchiver for .rar files(non free version)"
[11:12] <Yoan> lo, my is free
[11:12] <Yoan> do you search in software center ?
[11:13] <ms_> yep, in Ubuntu Software Center
[11:13] <Yoan> can you eait me to create a picture
[11:13] <Yoan> to show you ?
[11:13] <Yoan> 3-4 min
[11:13] <Yoan> wait*
[11:13] <Yoan> not eait
[11:13] <Yoan> :D
[11:13] <ms_> can I what??
[11:14] <Yoan> to wait me 3-4 mins
[11:14] <Yoan> my english is awful :D
[11:14] <ms_> doesn't matter :)
[11:15] <Yoan> install this, its free but its not open sorce
[11:15] <Yoan> http://prikachi.com/images/532/5521532e.png
[11:15] <Yoan> the first
[11:16] <Yoan> it's blue, i 'm choosed him
[11:16] <Yoan> :)
[11:16] <ms_> :) but did you check in "more info"?
[11:16] <Yoan> yes, wait
[11:17] <Yoan> This program is shareware and you must register it after 40 days of use.
[11:17] <Yoan> i'm using him with monts
[11:17] <Yoan> there's no problm
[11:18] <Yoan> ok, my xubuntu was installed, i I wish you success
[11:19] <Yoan> can i helped small ?
[11:19] <Yoan> :D
[11:19] <ms_> ok, ok :) I think it has no graphical interface. all are with the shell, no?
[11:19] <Yoan> it;s package
[11:19] <Yoan> not a program
[11:19] <Yoan> package for program, i think
[11:19] <Yoan> bb from me :)
[11:22] <ms_> ? what? so it has not a graphical interface :( doesn't matter!
[11:23] <ms_> Yoan, thank you, you were very helpful :)
[11:29] <ms_> I just installed program "rar" and it seems that: "rar x file.rar " isn't working. and shows:"/usr/local/bin/rar: 1: /usr/local/bin/rar: Syntax error: "&" unexpected"
[12:14] <ali1234> what needs to be fixed with the messaging indicator?
[12:16] <ali1234> btw, i finally found a few real differences between xubuntu session and xfce session: in xfce, sound and ssh-agent don't work properly
[12:21] <baizon> ali1234: backport for gtk2
[12:21] <baizon> it works with gtk3 only
[12:23] <ali1234> how do apps that don't use gtk at all work with indicators?
[12:23] <ali1234> ie skype
[12:24] <baizon> ali1234: the skype indicator is written in pygtk :)
[12:24] <baizon> thats why its working ;)
[12:24] <ali1234> and pygtk is gtk2?
[12:25] <baizon> yes
[12:25] <ali1234> and all this also applies to the other missing indicators? bluetooth, printers, session, datetime?
[12:25] <baizon> but its not pygtk, sorry it is PyGObject
[12:26] <baizon> thats what its called :D
[12:26] <baizon> pygtk is for gtk2, pygobject is for gtk3 :)
[12:27] <knome> ali1234, xubuntu does have those other indicators you mention
[12:27] <ali1234> how do i make them work then?
[12:27] <baizon> ali1234: it wont, the ubuntu team needs to port it for gtk2
[12:28] <baizon> or the xfce team switches to gtk3 :)
[12:28] <baizon> both sollutions will work
[12:28] <ali1234> hopefully the latter, as there's zero chance of ubuntu doing anything with gtk2
[12:28] <knome> i think you might need to install xfce4-goodies
[12:28] <knome> or xfce4-datetime-plugin
[12:28] <ali1234> ah, does that contain the missing xfapplet-plugin?
[12:29] <ali1234> xfce4-datetime-plugin is not an indicator
[12:29] <ali1234> it's a plugin
[12:29] <knome> no, you're right
[12:29] <ali1234> xubuntu has replacements for some of the missing indicators
[12:29] <ali1234> like datetime-plugin
[12:29] <ali1234> but it isn't as good
[12:29] <knome> goodies has xfapplet
[12:30] <knome> not sure how useful that is though
[12:30] <knome> now that many gnome applets won't work with it
[12:30] <ali1234> yeah, i'm assuming it also only works with gtk2 gnome-panel applets, which is virtually none now
[12:30] <knome> yes
[12:32] <ali1234> according to apt i don't have xfce4-datetime-plugin package installed. so i wonder what this thing on my panel that shows the time is?
[12:33] <baizon> orage maybe
[12:33] <knome> yup
[12:33] <ali1234> nope
[12:33] <ali1234> in "items" i now have "clock" and "orage panel clock" and they are different
[12:34] <ali1234> orage has (external) next to it, clock does not
[12:35] <ali1234> datetime-plugin is different again, it looks like the KDE one with two rows and a tiny font
[12:35] <ali1234> and has no configuration options
[12:38] <ali1234> http://imagebin.org/236815
[12:38] <ali1234> oops, got the order wrong, it's built-in, datetime-plugin, orage
[12:45] <ali1234> hehe, good news is indicator-cpufreq still works :)
[12:45] <baizon> most (all) indicator works fine
[12:45] <baizon> just indicator-messages for gtk2 is missing
[12:45] <ali1234> except for gtk3 ones... which is all of them
[12:46] <ali1234> the only official indicator which still has a gtk2 version is volume
[12:46] <baizon> ali1234: and sound ;)
[12:46] <ali1234> volume is the same as sound...
[12:46] <baizon> yeah your right
[12:46] <ali1234> sound is the right name :)
[12:47] <baizon> so lets hope that xfce 4.12 will have gtk3 support ;)
[12:47] <ali1234> it won't
[12:47] <ali1234> not enough to make this work anyway
[12:47] <baizon> ali1234: https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.12/roadmap/gtk3
[12:47] <ali1234> it will only have basic stuff, and gtk2 will still be the target for end users
[12:47] <baizon> yeah, but its a start :)
[12:47] <ali1234> yeah
[12:48] <ali1234> so something that annoys me about the indicators is if i click one, and then mouse over the next one, it doesn't open the menu
[12:50] <ali1234> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr1gZVRTo6o
[12:50] <ali1234> this needs to be handled carefully so it isn't too sensitive
[12:51] <baizon> yeah i hate this bug too
[12:52] <ali1234> same goes for applications -> places menu
[13:01] <ali1234> i guess i should start with something easy, like this: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8980
[13:11] <ali1234> goodies doesn't have xfapplet, it's not built any more
[13:33] <slarty> Xubuntu 11.10 upgraded today and warned of partial upgrade and now skype is broken. Google isn't helping. Any solutions?
[13:33] <slarty>  symbol lookup error: skype: undefined symbol: _ZN17QSslConfiguration12setSslOptionEN4QSsl9SslOptionEb
[13:35] <slarty> ps: am on 32-bit Dell Latitude D510
[13:36] <xubuntu786> Hi, i have probleme with my dispay at virtualbox. The max size for my display is 1024*768. How can I fix so there is more ?
[13:39] <v1adimir> oracle?.. i resized mine by changing the windows resolution from within xD
[13:39] <v1adimir> didn't bother with the rest
[13:39] <xubuntu786> my windows screen is 1290*1080.
[13:40] <v1adimir> i ran win xp x64 in it and just changed the desktop resolution in it and that was it
[13:42] <xubuntu786> scale mode works fine
[13:51] <slarty> Anyone else having trouble getting skype 4.1.0.20 to work?
[13:59] <ruien> not that it's much consolation, but i'm running 4.0.0.7 on xubuntu 12.04 without any trouble
[14:03] <slarty> thanks ruien - Fubuntu forum suggests a qt issue so will try update from 'unsupported updates'
[14:41] <tomatopotato> how do i check what nvidia driver im using?
[14:42] <TheSheep> tomatopotato: maybe look at the /var/log/Xorg.log
[14:42] <tomatopotato> nevermind, its nouveau, is there a better driver for a 7600GS?
[15:31] <c2tarun> anyone here?
[15:31] <bazhang> yes
[15:32] <c2tarun> Hi bazhang :  I downloaded a pdf and it has some high quality pics in it. Okular is taking like forever to open the pages and even if I leave it opened for a while it is not loading all the pages, any suggestions?
[15:32] <bazhang> on kubuntu?
[15:33] <c2tarun> nope, I am on Xubuntu, I thought Xubuntu's pdf loader is taking long so I installed okular as well
[15:33] <mengine> c2tarun, maybe it's time to buy a new pc :p
[15:33] <bazhang> evince aka document viewer has always done well for me, you could also install acroread from the partner repo
[15:33] <bazhang> mengine, thats not helpful
[15:34] <mengine> bazhang, but possible too.
[15:34] <c2tarun> mengine, i3 with 4 Gigs RAM and 1 GB ATI is not enough for reading a pdf? ;)
[15:34] <bazhang> !behelpful | mengine
[15:34] <bazhang> c2tarun, acroread is acrobat reader
[15:34] <mengine> c2tarun, hm as bazhang said, try evince. doing fine here too
[15:35] <bazhang> !info acroread partner
[15:35] <c2tarun> bazhang, ok, I'll try evince first then I'll try acroread
[15:35] <mengine> bazhang, ever tried to open a pdf with HQ content on a single core 1gb ram? so...
[15:35] <bazhang> c2tarun, be sure to enable partner repo if you wish to install from it
[15:37] <c2tarun> bazhang, is evince better then Document Viewer, I can see that both have same authors
[15:37] <bazhang> c2tarun, they are one and the same
[15:38] <c2tarun> bazhang, ok, then I tried document viewer and its not doing any good :( trying acroread now
[15:40] <mengine> bazhang, i guess is there is a bug, or just a bad code change, which has snuck into a core pdf library somewhere. if this is the case, im pretty sure it will be fixed in the near future. if nothing helps in your case, try to  get a pdf viewer running in wine. this will do it fine then.
[15:41] <mengine> *-is +that
[15:41] <bazhang> mengine, perhaps you mean c2tarun
[15:41] <c2tarun> mengine, I dont have wine installed but I have virtual box with XP in it, I'll try on that.
[15:41] <bazhang> I've got no problems viewing pdfs
[15:41] <mengine> bazhang, perhaps... sorry im at work.
[15:42] <mengine> c2tarun, just be sure to check on updates for the lib if your problem is not solved through various applications.
[15:42] <c2tarun> mengine, sure
[15:55] <c2tarun> mengine, Acrobat Reader on WinXP in virtual box is working little slow but lot faster than okular/evince.
[15:58] <mengine> c2tarun, then it could be possible what i wrote before.
[17:18] <sambagirl> hi i am trying to change to another version of ubuntu that uses gnome so that i can have the same environment and functionality that i have enjoyed in 10.10 ubuntu and 10.04. is this the right version? kubunut uses kde. ubuntu uses unity. i want to use gnome.
[17:19] <bazhang> then #ubuntu
[17:19] <bazhang> xubuntu is xfce4
[17:19] <bazhang> ie Not Gnome
[17:19] <drc> (tm)
[17:20] <ali1234> you want #ubuntu-gnome actually
[17:20] <sambagirl> oh gosh ok like elive
[17:20] <bazhang> sambagirl, I already told you that gnome-panel will give you the classic look
[17:20] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[17:20] <bazhang> ali1234, thats not right
[17:20] <ali1234> yes it is
[17:20] <sambagirl> i know you did bazhang
[17:20] <ali1234> gnome-panel is no longer supported
[17:20] <sambagirl> i am just shopping around this day.
[17:21] <bazhang> ali1234, please stop spreading mis info
[17:21] <pablo24h> Hi
[17:21] <bazhang> gnome-panel IS supported.
[17:21] <ali1234> gnome panel will cease to work entirely in gnome 3.8
[17:21] <ali1234> which will be the next major release
[17:21] <bazhang> ali1234, no longer supported means now
[17:21] <sambagirl> why would the eliminate that necesisariy feature?
[17:22] <ali1234> yep, nobody is actually supporting it with bug fixes NOW, because they know it's pointless
[17:22] <bazhang> ali1234, thats enough
[17:22] <ali1234> why do you have a problem with me simply repeating things that have already been decided by the gnome project?
[17:22] <pablo24h> I came here looking for help. Someone could help me?
[17:24] <ali1234> pablo24h: what's up?
[17:25] <pablo24h> I'm trying to install xubuntu, all OK, but when I reboot, the screen appears black after the initial machine screen
[17:26] <ali1234> you mean the bios?
[17:26] <ali1234> what graphics card do you have?
[17:26] <pablo24h> nvidia 5500 gtx
[17:27] <ali1234> hmm
[17:27] <pablo24h> yes, the bios
[17:27] <ali1234> did you tick the box "install additional software" in the installer?
[17:27] <pablo24h> All I can do is restart the physical button
[17:28] <pablo24h> yes, I did tick it
[17:28] <pablo24h> Should not have done?
[17:29] <ali1234> it's difficult to say
[17:29] <ali1234> i don't usually tick it
[17:30] <pablo24h> may be the nvidia propietary driver?
[17:30] <ali1234> yes, if you tick the box that gets installed
[17:30] <ali1234> so i'm told anyway
[17:30] <ali1234> can you activate recovery mode?
[17:31] <ali1234> then check that linux-headers-generic is installed
[17:31] <ali1234> also, how long did you wait on the black screen before rebooting?
[17:32] <pablo24h> no, I can't activate
[17:32] <pablo24h> five minutes
[17:33] <ali1234> so you boot up while holding left shift
[17:33] <ali1234> what happens?
[17:34] <pablo24h> sorry, that I have not tried
[17:36] <pablo24h> mmm I will try it and then come back to tell you, thank you ali1234
[17:44] <xubuntu615> Hello,
[17:45] <xubuntu615> I have a quick question, if anyone could help,
[17:46] <ali1234> what is the question?
[17:48] <frojnd> Hi there! :)
[17:49] <frojnd> I have Acer aspire one 722 and apperantly driveres aren't isntalled. How do I install open source radeon drivers from command line?
[17:49] <sambagirl> hi if you select the filesystem to copy to an external drive, does that filesystem include the external drive that is attached as being part of the filesystem you are copying and therefore increasing the size of the actual copy?
[17:51] <ali1234> sambagirl: in what software?
[17:52] <pablo24h> ali1234
[17:53] <bazhang> sambagirl, are you trying to copy and paste / with nautilus?
[17:53] <pablo24h> I have been able to enter xubuntu!!
[17:54] <pablo24h> Thank you a lot!
[17:55] <frojnd> 7wc
[17:55] <sambagirl> yes
[17:55] <sambagirl> sorry
[17:55] <bazhang> sambagirl, thats not how to clone a drive
[17:55] <sambagirl> i think when you select filesystem it includes all filesystems
[17:55] <sambagirl> i would use clonezilla
[17:55] <sambagirl> but i am just making a sinple copy that's all
[17:55] <bazhang> copying and pasting with nautilus will not work
[17:56] <sambagirl> i know you have to move
[17:56] <sambagirl> or tar the drive
[17:56] <sambagirl> i'll just skip it
[17:56] <bazhang> why not just image the disk
[17:56] <sambagirl> i have my home directory
[17:56] <sambagirl> because i am upgrading to a new version and what good would an image do?
[17:57] <sambagirl> but i could extract the image then
[17:57] <sambagirl> yeah i get it thanks bazhang
[17:57] <sambagirl> thanks
[17:57] <bazhang> sambagirl, then why are you trying to copy and paste root
[17:57] <sambagirl> it's my hard drive in my laptop, i want to make sure i have everything.
[17:58] <sambagirl> just want to make sure
[17:58] <ali1234> are you really upgrading?
[17:58] <ali1234> or just switching to a different install cd?
[17:58] <ali1234> because you know... there's really no difference what image you install from
[17:59] <cjohnston> knome: ping
[17:59] <sambagirl> i meant fresh install
[17:59] <sambagirl> this particular laptop was pure linux and i might modify it with partitions this time instead of a straight linux laptop. not sure yet.
[18:00] <sambagirl> i have my home directory that's sufficient
[18:00] <sambagirl> that should be sufficient?
[18:00] <knome> cjohnston, pong
[18:01] <cjohnston> knome: are the xubuntu blueprints all sorted out and good for status.ubuntu.com?
[18:01] <knome> cjohnston, yep, thanks! :)
[18:01] <cjohnston> np.
[18:01] <cjohnston> ty
[19:06] <Catbuntu> brb
[19:15] <Catbuntu> hi
[19:30] <ali1234> baizon: i've been researching the indicator stuff a little more
[19:31] <ali1234> the difference between skype etc and the volume indicator is that skype uses indicator-application, which has gtk2 and gtk3 versions
[19:31] <baizon> yes
[19:31] <ali1234> where as volume is it's own indicator
[19:31] <baizon> indicator-messages doesnt support gtk2
[19:32] <ali1234> so the question i have now is why indicator-messages doesn't just go through indicator-application
[19:33] <ali1234> i suspect the reason is indicator-application was an afterthought rather than a planned API
[19:39] <Catbuntu> Uhm...
[19:39] <Catbuntu> Isn't it possible to have Ubuntu One emblems at Thunar?
[19:39] <Catbuntu> :(
[19:40] <baizon> Catbuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15710/ubuntu-one-for-xfce-or-xubuntu
[19:40] <baizon> ali1234: that you have to ask the ubuntu team :)
[19:41] <Catbuntu> I installed Ubuntu One, it's working
[19:41] <Catbuntu> But there isn't a "sync with ubuntu one" option on Thunar's context menu nor those emblems for synched directories
[19:42] <ali1234> i'm pretty sure in the beginning the plan was that all apps would have to put anything they wanted to display into one of the officially sanctioned indicators, and indicator-application only really came about because proprietary apps like skype flatly refused to have a UI different from other OS
[20:28] <rhin0> hi - for the purposes of virtualbox on xubuntu 10.04 - what OS do I choose - I don't see xubuntu I see ubuntu 64 bit, linux 2.6 64 bit
[20:29] <rhin0> debian
[20:29] <ali1234> ubuntu
[20:29] <rhin0> for the purpose of setting up a virtualbox on xubiuntu 64 for xubuntu 64 (10.04)
[20:29] <rhin0> ok - "ubuntu" 64?
[20:29] <ali1234> yes
[20:29] <rhin0> ta.
[20:29] <ali1234> although
[20:30] <TheSheep> rhin0: xubuntu is mostly ubuntu under the hood, it shares most of the internals
[20:30] <rhin0> i know
[20:30] <TheSheep> rhin0: anything for ubuntu will work on xubuntu
[20:30] <ali1234> what kernel version was 10.04?
[20:30] <rhin0> just wanted to be sure
[20:30] <rhin0> 2.6.32
[20:30] <ali1234> it might be more appropriate to pick "linux 2.6" then
[20:30] <TheSheep> ouch, that old :)
[20:31] <ali1234> what also, version of virtualbox?
[20:31] <rhin0> well hey - I have one bug that stops me from using 12.04 - one singular bug - nobody seems ot address
[20:31] <rhin0> have logged it
[20:31] <ali1234> if host and guest are both 10.04 then pick ubuntu
[20:31] <ali1234> if host is 12.04 or something linux 2.6 may be better. tbh i'm not sure what difference it even makes.
[20:37] <manyhigh> Hi, is this the support channel for xubuntu?
[20:37] <rhin0> yes
[20:38] <TheSheep> !hi | manyhigh
[20:42] <manyhigh> Can you fix the Windows partition that fail to boot after shrunken it in the xubuntu installer?
[20:43] <ali1234> maybe, maybe not
[20:44] <ali1234> at what point does it fail booting? what error messages do you see?
[20:44] <TheSheep> it tells you to make a backup before you do it anyways
[20:45] <ali1234> also what windows version and what type of hardware do you have?
[20:45] <TheSheep> I scared him off :(
[20:45] <ali1234> more likely he only has one computer and needs to check the error
[20:45] <TheSheep> let's hope so
[20:46] <ali1234> i hope he doesn't have windows 7/8 with ssd accelerator
[20:46] <ali1234> because linux will corrupt those beyond hope if you so much as mount it
[20:47] <TheSheep> yay
[20:48] <manyhigh> It says a disk reading error accoured press ctrl+alt+dlt to restart, I can still acces the partition fine when in ubuntu
[20:49] <ali1234> ok. what windows version is it?
[20:49] <manyhigh> Windows 7
[20:49] <ali1234> ok. and what type of computer?
[20:49] <manyhigh> HP Pavillion M6 laptop with AMD A10 and 7670m
[20:50] <ali1234> does it have an ssd accelerator by any chance?
[20:51] <manyhigh> No a regulare HDD
[20:51] <ali1234> ssd accelerator is a combination of regular hdd and ssd cache
[20:51] <ali1234> reviews online appear to indicate some models of that laptop have it
[20:52] <manyhigh> Not on this one, seems to be almost exclusive to intel ultrabook models
[20:53] <ali1234> ok. well, the first thing you need to do is back up everything in case you somehow make the problem worse
[20:54] <manyhigh> Ok
[20:57] <manyhigh> What would you advise me to do when I've done this?
[20:57] <ali1234> verify that the backups actually work and are not corrupted :)
[20:58] <veronika> Hi there
[20:58] <TheSheep> hi | veronika
[20:58] <TheSheep> !hi | veronika
[20:58] <veronika> I've just install  xubuntu 12.10 and I'd like to completely replace Thunar with PCmanFM file manager. I've already installed pcmanfm, what's next step?
[20:59] <veronika> Is there a guide for this?
[20:59] <TheSheep> veronika: now just use it instead of thunar?
[20:59] <veronika> So I just delete Thunar icon on desktop and put pcmanfm inthere?
[20:59] <ali1234> veronika: open settings manager->prefered applications ->utilities and change thunar to pcmanfm
[21:00] <ali1234> and yeah that's pretty much it
[21:00] <veronika> ali1234: tnx :) That's what I needed :)
[21:00] <TheSheep> some plugins may still have thunar hardcoded, but you can report that as a bug in them
[21:01] <manyhigh> Un related to previous question. When pressing the powerbutton after suspending Xubuntu the powerled turns on but the screen stay black
[21:02] <veronika> Now I have to replace firefox with chromium
[21:02] <veronika> I'll try with prefered applications
[21:02] <ali1234> yep, same thing
[21:03] <veronika> ali1234: that's fantastic! Was that feature in 12.4?
[21:03] <manyhigh> Is there a secret button combination, how do i fix it or is the feature broken?
[21:03] <ali1234> veronika: sure
[21:04] <ali1234> manyhigh: suspend is a crapshoot :(
[21:04] <ali1234> report a bug i guess
[21:05] <manyhigh> Ok, thanks, but I don't have time to back up tonight, can you point me on the right trail  for when I've sorted that?
[21:06] <ali1234> do you have windows install cd?
[21:06] <ali1234> or do you have one of those terrible recovery partition things?
[21:06] <manyhigh> No, HP did send one with the laptop for some reason
[21:06] <manyhigh> recoverpartion I'm afraid..
[21:07] <ali1234> you're going to have problems then
[21:07] <manyhigh> But the key should work if I can get my hands on a windows 7 cd
[21:07] <ali1234> you might need an OEM disk
[21:08] <ali1234> tried windows safe mode or whatever they call it these days?
[21:09] <manyhigh> Except xubuntu I can only choose windows and windows recovery mode, both end up in the same error message
[21:09] <ali1234> i've seen this happen before
[21:10] <ali1234> for some reason windows doesn't run a disk check sometimes
[21:10] <ali1234> it can be just trivial problem like the partition was not clean unmounted
[21:10] <ali1234> or it could be massive filesystem corruption
[21:11] <ali1234> the problem is how to boot windows to tell it to do a disk check, when it won't boot
[21:11] <manyhigh> I can acces all my files, so i doubt that
[21:11] <ali1234> if you use a windows install cd and boot rescue mode it should be possible to repair it. but if you repair with the wrong type of CD you can mess up the install
[21:11] <TheSheep> you can access the file list
[21:12] <TheSheep> doesn't mean the contents is not corrupted
[21:12] <ali1234> yeah, did you verify the files aren't corrupted?
[21:12] <ali1234> *all* of them?
[21:12] <manyhigh> Ok, not all of them
[21:12] <ali1234> i had a hard drive once where all the files were ok, and all the directory listing were ok, they just didn't match
[21:13] <TheSheep> it's usually good to dd (dump) the whole disk to some external storage before you try doing anything with it
[21:13] <ali1234> so you open some.mp3 and get a text document
[21:13] <ali1234> etc
[21:13] <TheSheep> to make sure you can go back where you were
[21:13] <ali1234> that was a real pain to sort out
[21:13] <ali1234> yeah, make a full dd image if there's stuff you can't replace
[21:14] <ali1234> (that was a reiserfs btw)
[21:14] <ali1234> so much for "most reliable filesystem"
[21:14] <veronika> When I shuts down or reboot xubuntu I get annoying message about speech-dispatcher something and I think it fails
[21:15] <ali1234> veronika: don't worry about it. just means it didn't exit clean
[21:15] <veronika> ali1234: every time?
[21:15] <veronika> :(
[21:15] <ali1234> yeah
[21:15] <manyhigh> Ok I'll do that and try the recovery plan and check with HP what kind of disc I need
[21:15] <ali1234> remember how windows used to hang on "shutting down your computer..." forever?
[21:15] <ali1234> cos some program refuses to exit
[21:15] <veronika> ali1234: ..yes
[21:16] <ali1234> it's like that. but linux does not stand for bad behaved software and just kills it and prints that warning.
[21:16] <veronika> ok great :) Makes sense
[21:19] <ali1234> manyhigh: whe you mount that partition in ubuntu do you see any warnings on dmesg or syslog?
[21:20] <manyhigh> The windows partition? No just disk read error and and opt to press ctrl alt dlt
[21:20] <ali1234> no, when you access the files in ubuntu
[21:20] <ali1234> hmm, it could also be because drive letter changed in windows
[21:21] <ali1234> you might want to try ntfsfix on it, but not until you have backed up and preferably imaged the drive
[21:21] <manyhigh> No error/warning windows open or is it a file I need to check for it?
[21:21] <ali1234> open terminal and do "dmesg"
[21:22] <ali1234> you will see loads of stuff
[21:22] <ali1234> try dmesg | grep ntfs
[21:22] <ali1234> or actually
[21:22] <ali1234> just install pastebinit
[21:22] <ali1234> then do dmesg | pastebinit
[21:23] <ali1234> also sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[21:23] <ali1234> and each time it will give you a URL
[21:23] <ali1234> paste the URL here
[21:24] <manyhigh> If it's command-line pastebinit client, it's already installed
[21:25] <ali1234> yeah
[21:26] <manyhigh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1378086/ for the first command and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1378089/
[21:27] <ali1234> hmm
[21:29] <xubuntu820> #help
[21:30] <knome> !ask | xubuntu820
[21:30] <ali1234> manyhigh: i'm confused about that fdisk output but it might be your locale
[21:30] <ali1234> any idea what SFS and Utökad means? is Utökad "extended"?
[21:30] <xubuntu820> !ask
[21:31] <manyhigh> yes utökad is extended, SFS I'm not sure
[21:31] <knome> xubuntu820, please ask the question.
[21:31] <ali1234> ok, SFS is dynamic disk
[21:32] <xubuntu820> !join
[21:32] <xubuntu820> join
[21:32] <xubuntu820> #join
[21:32] <knome> xubuntu820, what are you doing?
[21:32] <Cilyan> Hi everyone !
[21:33] <ali1234> manyhigh: this guy seems to have had same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1653493
[21:34] <Cilyan> I just installed Xubuntu 12.10 on a friend's PC and I'm getting black screen instead of Plymouth at bootup. Login screen displays fine (lightdm I guess), further graphics also. It's an ATI card with opensource drivers.
[21:35] <Cilyan> I already tried to remove vt.handoff from the grub cmd line, but I'm only getting plymouth at the very end of the boot, there is a long black screen phase before this point. At shutdown, everything is fine
[21:35] <Cilyan> Could you please point me to some possibly related threads, google was not really a good friend today...
[21:35] <veronika> Ok.. when I close laptop's lid Screen locks, I put in password, but then I see another Xscreen saver lock screen... so I have to type twice time password just to unloc, how to resolove this? (clean installation of 12.10)
[21:35] <v1adimir> yea, same here on nvidia; shutdown is text on screen, but whatever :)
[21:36] <v1adimir> too*
[21:37] <ali1234> manyhigh: it's not looking good unfortunately, but i have no experience of dynamic disks
[21:41] <manyhigh> Seems it could be HP only allowing 4 partitions and turned my the windows partition into a basic one instead of dynamic, am I getting it right?
[21:42] <v1adimir> 4 is the max number of /primary/
[21:43] <v1adimir> err i think
[21:43] <ali1234> manyhigh: not sure at all
[21:43] <v1adimir> (but nothing to do with HP)
[21:44] <ali1234> you only have 4 primary
[21:44] <ali1234> i suspect mixing SFS and extended has confused windows a lot
[21:46] <manyhigh> Worst case I could "upgrade" my w7 to w8 for $12 and install it from a disc I have, but I would rather not resort to that
[21:48] <veronika> I have another issue, playing youtube videos makes cpu load very very load.. Is there any sweet GUI governor that you recommend for notebooks? And I have successfully installed ati propriatery drivers for 3d accelaration
[21:49] <veronika> Also in full screen playing youtube is like tearing video apart and audio way out of sync..
[21:49] <ali1234> flash is notorious for doing that. html5 isn't much better
[21:49] <TheSheep> veronika: flash sucks in full screen on linux, that is unlikely to change unless someone buys off Adobe and makes them care
[21:50] <veronika> but still do you suggest me any GUI governors? So I set to maximum performance when on AC power?
[21:50] <ali1234> it sucks slightly less if you use chrome (not chromium) and have an nvidia card
[21:50] <veronika> Also my previous issue? How to disable second lock screen?
[21:50] <veronika> ali1234: ah.. I have ati and chromium :P
[21:51] <TheSheep> veronika: could it be that you have both xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver running?
[21:51] <v1adimir> yea chromium has /different/ flash
[21:51] <veronika> TheSheep: celan install.. haven't done anything by myself..
[21:51] <TheSheep> veronika: what does 'dpkg -l | grep screensaver' say?
[21:51] <veronika> v1adimir: so u suggest to install chrome? :| don't trust google so much but what do I have left for
[21:52] <v1adimir> veronika: i wouldn't put chrome, but chromium
[21:52] <manyhigh> Thanks for the help, last question: How do I make backspace make chromium go back a step?
[21:52] <TheSheep> v1adimir: chromium doesn't come with the harcoded flash that chrome has
[21:52] <ali1234> it's not "hardcoded" - it just uses a different api
[21:53] <ali1234> and is a newer version that google have "fixed"
[21:53] <TheSheep> ali1234: it's compiled inside chrome, and uses the nacl api
[21:53] <v1adimir> veronika: this is the one i use, but again can't recommend using ppa-s on your box :) http://ppa.launchpad.net/a-v-shkop/chromium/ubuntu
[21:53] <ali1234> it uses the pepper api actually
[21:54] <veronika> TheSheep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1378145/
[21:54] <TheSheep> veronika: looks good
[21:54] <v1adimir> TheSheep: that's crazy if i hadn't noticed that, hm
[21:55] <veronika> TheSheep: yet it aske me for a password for two times
[21:55] <TheSheep> v1adimir: but I remember that both the power manager and the screensaver settings have this checkbox for locking the screen, you could try uchecking *one* of them and seeing what happens
[21:55] <TheSheep> v1adimir: sorry
[21:55] <TheSheep> veronika: ^
[21:55] <v1adimir> :)
[21:56] <veronika> TheSheep: let me try and find power manager
[21:56] <TheSheep> ali1234: pepper is the thing that nacl programs use to communicate with the browser, no?
[21:56] <ali1234> pepper is a browser plugin api, like npapi
[21:56] <TheSheep> ali1234: the thing that looks like web workers?
[21:56] <manyhigh> Appriciate the help, atleast a little clearer on what's wrong, good night
[21:56] <ali1234> i don't know what web workers are
[21:57] <ali1234> it's just a .so same as regular flash. just uses a different plugin api
[21:57] <TheSheep> ali1234: a way to have threads in js, basically
[21:57] <Justakill> does anyone here use sbackup? I'd like to exclude all hidden files in my home directory.
[21:57] <TheSheep> ali1234: http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=108086
[21:58] <ali1234> /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so
[21:58] <ali1234> no doubt you could get that working in chromium, with enough hacking
[21:59] <TheSheep> ali1234: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-flash-support-for-google-chromium-browser.html
[21:59] <TheSheep> ali1234: in chromium -- yes
[21:59] <ali1234> firefox doesn't support ppapi because mozilla said "it's too hard and anyway html5" - even though they helped design it
[22:00] <ali1234> but there's no reason other browsers can't support it. i mean nacl just means native code in the browser. plugins were always native anyway...
[22:01] <veronika> TheSheep: You were right, when I go to power managment and untick lock screen when lid is closed I only have one lock
[22:02] <v1adimir> TheSheep: if my chromium uses global flash, like firefox and it doesn't crash.. i don't get it; but tnx, gonna check that out
[22:03] <veronika> about that flash performance.. haven't quite follow your debate :) You suggest me to install plain chrome?
[22:03] <ali1234> v1adimir: chromium doesn't come with the pepper flash because chromium is open source...
[22:04] <ali1234> both chromium and chrome can still use netscape plugins though
[22:05] <v1adimir> makes sense, but i can't see how it's working fine with the 11.2 r202 flash that makes so many problems on ff
[22:05] <v1adimir> :s
[22:05] <ali1234> what type of problems?
[22:05] <ali1234> it works exactly the same in both here
[22:05] <v1adimir> pages that crash with it and all that
[22:05] <v1adimir> chromium can open the URLs that ff can't
[22:06] <veronika> Hm, can't find chrome in apt
[22:06] <v1adimir> like IMDB trailers
[22:06] <ali1234> never seen a url that ff can't open... i do use adblock though, it blocks most of the crashy flash adverts
[22:06] <ali1234> veronika: you have to download it from google. i can't really say it makes a huge difference... it's a little better but not massively
[22:06] <veronika> ok
[22:06] <v1adimir> veronika: chromium is no longer maintained, even in the 'official' repos, gotta make it yourself or use a ppa
[22:06] <veronika> let me try it
[22:07] <veronika> v1adimir: why?
[22:07] <veronika> :|
[22:07] <veronika> is that for all chromiums? or just ubuntu
[22:07] <v1adimir> they stopped a while back :f
[22:07] <v1adimir> ubuntu
[22:07] <veronika> that's too bad :|
[22:08] <v1adimir> i think this is the one i'm on, no idea if it's trustworthy https://launchpad.net/~a-v-shkop/+archive/chromium-dev
[22:16] <veronika> I wanna pimp xubuntu icon themes and everything, can you suggest me any good pages with tutorials to do that?
[22:16] <knome> !themes | veronika
[22:17] <veronika> yes :) xfce-look.org
[22:21] <TheSheep> it's a shame that tango-generator doesn't work anymore
[22:27] <Justakill> i'm looking for an interesting program for encrypting data in the vein of truecrypt? Any suggestions
[22:27] <Justakill> ?
[22:27] <Cilyan> ok, for me it seems plymouth is working once the initramfs has given back the control
[22:28] <Cilyan> the question is, how to make it work in the initramfs...
[22:31] <David-A> Justakill: you really want an "interesting" program or one that just works and is very reliable?
[22:31] <Cilyan> ok, works
[22:32] <Justakill> David-A: well a reliable and working program was more what I ment. But if you know of something "interesting" why not...
[22:33] <xubuntu876> I have drivers for my RealTek USB wireless adapter but please could somebody explain how to install them.  I am a novice, keen to learn but really frustrated!!!!
[22:34] <veronika> Does package manager when I click remove on a application removes also settings with those app? Like if I'd write apt-get --purge remove chromium in a shell?
[22:35] <xubuntu876> Sorry,  I should have explained that they are on a CD Rom provided by the manufacturer
[22:35] <v1adimir> purge should remove settings and all yeah
[22:35] <Cilyan> For those interrested in getting boot splash, I first removed the vt.handoff parameter from the grub cmdline (/etc/grub.d/10_linux), then I added FRAMEBUFFER=y to /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash. You need to update both grub and initramfs
[22:36] <veronika> v1adimir: can I tweak package manager that it would use that --purge options?
[22:36] <v1adimir> veronika: idk :)
[22:37] <Cilyan> The time to setup the screen correctly is quite long, but I suppose this is the time needed to get the graphics correctly set up...
[22:38] <v1adimir> Cilyan: 'tis long, sandy bridge here, 4gb ram, sata 6gb
[22:38] <lwizardl> hello
[22:39] <lwizardl> I want to create a custom Xubuntu LiveCD with preconfigured applications etc, is there a tool for doing this ?
[22:39] <Cilyan> v1adimir, here notebook... But on my own computer, I also have Sandy bridge, and I would say I don't care. The time to bootup the motherboard is almost longer as booting my whole linux ;)
[22:40] <v1adimir> hehe :s
[22:41] <David-A> Justakill: I don't encrypt myself, but there seems to be many options. Maybe ask more specific question? You want to crypt a partition or have a crypted filesystem inside a file? Must its existence be hidden?
[22:45] <Justakill> David-A: a crypted filesyste, its existence does not need to be hidden.
[22:51] <veronika> Hm :) I'm trying to use list for wallpapers but don't know how
[22:52] <veronika> Image list :)
[22:52] <veronika> When I click on it I get empty background :P
[22:58] <David-A> veronika: can y
[22:58] <David-A> veronika: can you click Plus and add image files to the image list?
[23:02] <veronika> David-A: no I can't
[23:03] <veronika> David-A: aha..
[23:03] <veronika> David-A: I think I got it..
[23:07] <veronika> Where do I change font?
[23:07] <veronika> And size of it?
[23:09] <David-A> veronika: Settings>Appearance>Fonts (for menus, panels, etc) (rendering setting affects most programs)
[23:12] <veronika> Nice ;)
[23:13] <veronika> Just have to change a theme and icons..
[23:13] <veronika> and some tweaking for weather notifications...
[23:13] <v1adimir> lolz ;) mine's totally default
[23:14] <veronika> Don't like default :P
[23:14] <veronika> too heavy too sintetic
[23:15] <v1adimir> noticed that you don't :d
[23:20] <_naxil_> hello
[23:20] <_naxil_> how to reset the icon setup?
[23:20] <_naxil_> now i have lot of icon disappear..
[23:25] <arucard> alguien podria ayudarme
[23:35] <v1adimir> veronika: just found the flash-aid firefox add-on, don't know if it'll blow up my box
[23:37] <veronika> do you experience any perfromance?
[23:37] <v1adimir> meh, no same thing
[23:38] <v1adimir> imdb.com movie trailers, previews, whatever they are just crash the browser
[23:39] <David-A> arucard: por espanol, try #ubuntu-es o #ubuntu-mx
[23:40] <ali1234> v1adimir: they work for me. try to make a new firefox profile
[23:40] <arucard> ok gracias
[23:40] <v1adimir> ali1234: never worked, on 12.04, 12.04.1 or 12.10 :(
[23:41] <ali1234> if you can reproduce it with a blank profile then report a bug
[23:41] <v1adimir> gonna try, tnx
[23:42] <ali1234> if you can't reproduce then it's some extension
[23:42] <v1adimir> yeah, got it :)
[23:48] <unheeding> if you type "command <command>" it will totally perform the command you specify
[23:53] <davethefan> raz0rbraz0r testing
[23:53] <davethefan> raz0rbraz0r www.google.co.uk