[05:45] morning all [05:45] Sup. [05:45] It's been soooooooooo quiet. I don't like these timezone differences. [05:45] ohi TaraLS you here too [05:46] they not at work yet [05:46] or doing early morning things first [05:48] yes I know. :P [05:49] hehe [05:56] morning [05:56] lo Squirm [05:57] the tiredness [05:58] so happy it's Friday, I could almost smile [05:58] lol [05:59] Squirm, whats the trip in loosening them four goodies that hold a lga 775 cpu down [05:59] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/Krice_Verta/CPUFan2.jpg [05:59] twist in the direction of the arrow [05:59] TaraLS, cant move them [05:59] and pull it out [05:59] is it strength related? [06:00] new ones are easy. but you may need pliars :P make sure you actually twist the top though [06:00] (the bit with the arrow) [06:00] they too tight for her methinks [06:00] so you're going to twist it 90deg, so the arrow is against the side [06:01] well, pointing to the side [06:01] twist all for [06:01] ty [06:01] then start removing them. pull on the bit you twisted(right at the top) [06:01] s/for/four [06:02] oh that whole little tower clamp goody lifts out? [06:03] cant try here while pc going [06:03] and other one fighting a messed up hdd [06:04] well, it's a pin that slides through another piece of plastic [06:04] so make sure you twist and pull the head of that pin [06:04] and I wouldnt suggest doing it with a running pc. you may overheat your processor [06:05] yeah [06:08] Okay [06:08] but brb [06:16] Maaz, coffee on [06:16] * Maaz washes some mugs [06:16] hi not_found-droid [06:17] Alo [06:17] What is happening? [06:18] still trying to get TaraLS pc going stably. she trying to swop cpus with moms pc [06:18] here all is good and there not_found-droid [06:19] Memtest run? [06:19] Did it [06:19] I've done everything you can think to suggest. [06:19] done [06:19] Anyway, still brb [06:19] not ram [06:19] I am on a bus [06:19] we sure its cpu or something onna mb [06:19] Shakey [06:19] hi SmilyBorg_w [06:19] uh oh [06:20] All voltage on psu tested? [06:20] where you going not_found-droid [06:20] how you test them [06:20] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [06:20] oh ya [06:20] Carefully [06:20] i saw cpu [06:20] \lol [06:20] it shows in bios under pc health methinks [06:20] Maaz, ty [06:20] You are welcome Kilos [06:21] Abu Dhabi to pick up my daughter at the airport [06:21] nice [06:22] The hardware guru's use ammeters etc to test the psu's [06:22] Above my pay grade [06:22] she wont have those tools [06:22] i have flukes here but she 8000 ks away [06:22] sigh [06:23] :( [06:26] Anyhoo [06:26] Gonna switch to laptop I guess. brb [06:31] Okay on laptop. Sigh. [06:32] I don't even know how to get the CPU out of mom's comp [06:32] It's the little square thing under the fan, right? [06:32] Looks like a square battery [06:33] wb TaraLS [06:33] didnt you read what Squirm said [06:34] oh wait [06:34] i will paste for you [06:34] Thanks., [06:34] I did. [06:34] I'm talking about getting the CPU out of mom's computer [06:34] twist in the direction of the arrownew ones are easy. but you may need pliars :P make sure you actually twist the top though(the bit with the arrow) [06:35] Not the CPU fan off of mine [06:35] so you're going to twist it 90deg, so the arrow is against the side [06:35] well, pointing to the side [06:35] well, it's a pin that slides through another piece of plastic [06:35] so make sure you twist and pull the head of that pin [06:35] Kilos, oi [06:35] I read what Squirn wrote. [06:35] m* [06:35] cant you not twist them with a pliers even [06:36] I don't have pliers [06:36] borrow one somewhere [06:36] try neighbour [06:36] Ah-HA! [06:36] I used a screwdriver [06:36] They;re actually easy to twist [06:37] The hard part is finding a grip [06:38] grab the top blob with fingers and turn till it comes up [06:38] turn and pull gently same time [06:39] Yep, I got it out. [06:40] I blew dust out too, outside [06:40] Lots came out [06:40] Now, how to take CPUs out [06:41] I don't have any glue stuff to put on the heatsink, though. [06:41] i told you go blow pc clean at garage [06:42] Kilos, I'm not doing that right now. [06:42] oh my [06:42] i told you 2 weeks ago but you said you cleaned it [06:42] grrr [06:42] Whatever [06:42] Moving forward [06:42] Need thermal paste [06:42] no other option [06:42] Indeed. It's still got grey stuff leftover from last time (whoever did it). Do I NEED to get new thermal paste, or will it be okay? [06:42] buy thermal paste [06:43] New [06:43] Well then this is all pointless right now, isn't it? [06:43] And IPA to clean off the left over [06:43] * TaraLS sighs. [06:43] Lol [06:43] Fun and games [06:44] dont the thermal paste actually get dry and hold cpu and sink together not_found-droid [06:44] What is IPA? and where can I find these two things? [06:45] like glue [06:45] pc shops [06:45] Can I just get them later? Or do I HAVE to get this stuff NOW and THEN put change the CPU over? [06:45] cpu will blow without paste and sink and fan going [06:45] is moms cpu stuck to sink\ [06:45] Well neither one has blown yet [06:45] They've both still got grey stuff on it [06:46] All the thermal paste does is help with heat transfer as both surfaces aren't 100 percent smooth [06:46] before you can start it up again clean and new paste [06:46] What I'm asking is... Is danger imminent, or can this wait a few days? Such as, can I use the PC without needing to put new paste on and it won't blow up, or? [06:47] it will blow [06:47] Can take a chance and just replace heat sink [06:47] Why has it not blown yet? [06:47] new paste on clean cpu then start up not before [06:47] Why all of a sudden do I have to worry about this stupid paste? [06:47] But cpu may run hot [06:47] If I had left my CPU, you wouldn't be telling me to get this paste [06:47] because the fan was working and sink was in place [06:47] And it will be BACK that way once the comp is again assembles. [06:47] d* [06:48] I don't understand why no one said "Wait to swap out the CPUs for when you get paste to put on the heatsink" if it's such an immediate thing. [06:48] you forget that the sink and fan was fitted with thats last lot of paste (grey stuff) [06:49] so was working [06:49] I didn't forget. Not at all. [06:49] * not_found-droid wasn't here >. > [06:49] lol [06:49] Kilos obviously knows this stuff, so he should have said something. [06:50] is the paste thats on there still soft [06:50] ya my fault [06:50] It comes off my fingers really easily [06:50] then you might be lucky [06:50] Well dude [06:50] swop cpus [06:50] If the paste was an issue, it should have been mentioned. [06:50] and keep same fans [06:50] Obvs. [06:50] Now to find out how to take the CPUs out. [06:50] * TaraLS googles. [06:50] no you always say you know [06:51] Whatev. [06:51] there should be 2 clips [06:51] I wish they were AMD CPus. They look really easy to remove [06:51] intels you move the wire brackets and lift it out [06:52] Take a chance and replace. Modern cpu won't just blow up... Normally [06:52] Ooh [06:52] on the side of the cpu must be 2 wire kinda things [06:52] Bbl [06:52] not_found-droid: Well, if it hasn't blown up yet, it's not going to, right? [06:52] Kilos: Yep, I see. I pulled it to the side just a touch and it popped up [06:52] brb [06:56] Hm [06:56] My CPU has different little pins on the underside to mom's [06:57] *yawn* [06:57] hi superfly [06:58] hi Kilos, TaraLS [06:58] superfly: Howdy, Supahflahhh [06:58] ah then her pc can only take a core2 cpu not a dual core like yours [06:59] are they actual pins not just shniy surfaces [06:59] shiny [07:00] Whew [07:00] Hard to get fan back in [07:01] CPU fits fine [07:01] Just different underneath for some reason [07:01] Fan is giving me trouble [07:01] The holding pins (the blobs) won't fit back in the holes [07:01] to put the fan back [07:01] you need to pull the pins out [07:01] twist it back 90deg to the position it was in [07:02] fit it so everything lines up with the 4 holes [07:02] then just push down on the top of the little handle/hold/head thing [07:02] and it pushes the pin back in [07:03] Pull the pins off of the fan chassis? [07:03] took me a while to figure this out :/ then another while to rmemeber how to do it [07:03] TaraLS: you putting the cpu fan back? [07:03] The pins under the twisty heads of the fan have like... plastic bits flanking each black pin part. [07:03] Squirm: Yeah. Trying to. [07:03] yes [07:03] And it's like I have to squeeze the plastic bits inward so they'll fit through the holes in the motherboard [07:04] the pin must be within those plastic bits [07:04] so if you have it twisted so the arrow is pointing at the fan, you can pull them back. once back, twist is clockwise(back) 90deg [07:04] do this for all 4 [07:04] Oh dude [07:04] I see now [07:04] then line everything up [07:05] then you literally just push on the head of the pin and it pushes down [07:05] you will hear a 'click' when it's clipped into place [07:05] kk [07:05] either that, ot you wont be able to pull the pin back out(without turning it) [07:10] Oh my goodfreakingness [07:10] I can only get two down at a time [07:10] This is so frustrating [07:10] I hate computers [07:11] If I worked at a comp shop and someone came in with an issue, I'd be more likely to say "Blow it up :D" than "I can help" [07:19] Whew [07:19] Still struggling [07:20] try opposites [07:20] to push top right, bottom left then say bottom right, top left [07:20] make sure they're all lined up before you start pushing [07:21] and sometimes those little plastic covers bend [07:24] I can't get opposite sides to sit flush [07:24] It's like the CPU under the center of the fan is bulging [07:25] What a stupid design [07:25] Squirm: [07:26] put glasses on [07:27] lol [07:27] it works well [07:27] hehe [07:27] does bend the motherboard a little though [07:27] I dont like tha [07:27] t [07:27] i use glasses and magnifying glass [07:28] sorry TaraLS, nothing further I can really help you with [07:28] is your CPU in properly? [07:28] Yes [07:28] Okay, I somehow got the fan in and all clips are down [07:28] Now the wire is too short to plug it into the motherboard [07:28] are they all tight? [07:28] I could have sworn I was putting it in the way I took it out. Blah. [07:28] Yeah [07:28] you can undo the wire from it's little clips though [07:29] Yeah, I know. My question is, is it okay no matter what way it goes in? [07:29] Like, if the intel sticker is upside down instead of rightside up? [07:29] doesn't matter at all [07:29] easier to read if right side up [07:29] it's just a fan [07:29] lol Kilos [07:29] Squirm: Okay. [07:29] hehe [07:29] and there is nothing to read :P [07:29] all it says is Intel [07:29] PLugging in, then turning on. Here's hoping. [07:30] ya but its letni upside down [07:30] if theres an audible bang, you've done something wrong [07:30] what are the current symptoms? [07:30] stressful Banlam morning [07:30] heya kilos, [07:30] i was referring to TaraLS computer, which i assume isn't workign [07:31] ya stressful [07:31] tried changing cpus [07:31] ok [07:31] and are neither working, does new oen not work? [07:31] Poor PC [07:31] Please don't blow up [07:31] still not sure which one she is putting back [07:31] Kilos: Oh please. I put my mom's CPU into my comp. I'm not an idiot. [07:32] you said the pins were different!!!!!!! [07:32] Squirm: lol... Here's hoping there's no bang. And here's hoping it doesn't just die silently either. [07:32] Kilos: They weren't like... slotty pins. Just... little groovy things underneath [07:32] The CPU fit in fine. I didn't have to force it. [07:32] atleast when there's a bang you know something's gone wrong :P it's when it's silent, you [07:32] re never quite sure [07:33] * TaraLS switches on comp and stays away. [07:33] hehe [07:33] Banlam: unless iy smokes :P [07:33] s/iy/it [07:33] or smells bad [07:33] squirm, yeah [07:33] "New CPU installed! Please enter setup to configure your system" [07:33] I guess that's a good sign... [07:33] 'dat smell' [07:33] yay [07:33] wutm your computer specificallt registered a new CPU? [07:34] now most likely you can disable hyperthreading [07:34] F1 to run setup, or F2 to load defaults and continue [07:34] TaraLS: don't stress too much. if a CPU gets between 100-110def Celsius, it should shut itself off [07:34] s/def/deg [07:34] TaraLS: you could just load defaults [07:34] should be all good [07:35] Okay. Loading defaults [07:35] If something goes wrong. [07:35] Squirm, I keel u. [07:35] lol [07:35] TaraLS: you'll have to find me first [07:35] and this is all at own risk [07:35] btw [07:35] :P [07:35] so easy to blame someone else [07:35] 'm sure Kilos will find you for me >D [07:35] Kilos: Shuttup. I'm doing as he directed. [07:35] rofl [07:35] THE SCREEEN ISN'T LOADING. [07:35] Hm. [07:36] now its me involved [07:36] such manners and respect [07:36] try ctrl+alt+f2 [07:37] do you see text [07:37] Nope no text [07:37] First it was the 'black' ubuntu screen before the desktop [07:37] whew [07:37] Then I restarted [07:38] wait [07:38] And it took me to a screen where I could choose boot options [07:38] maybe its looking for stuff [07:38] "Ubuntu" or "advanced settings for ubuntu" [07:38] or "memtest" [07:38] advanced settings [07:38] Is it supposed to take longer than my other CPU? [07:38] should show recovery [07:38] yes [07:38] its half the speed [07:39] Damn [07:39] Well [07:39] I went to advanced settings [07:39] i like the new recovery modes on unity you dont have to manually login and use sudo gdm start [07:39] Now lots of text on screen [07:39] Stopped at "Freeing initrd memory: 14712l freed" [07:39] wait [07:40] its working [07:40] Are you sure? :( [07:40] ya [07:40] it will tell you if there are errors [07:40] Frick. How long will it take? [07:40] It said no plug and play found [07:40] who knows [07:40] But that might just be because plug and play is specifically windows? [07:40] not too long [07:40] be done before bedtime [07:41] How long is not too long? [07:41] lol.... [07:41] I dunno if it's hanging or what. [07:41] So I dunno if I should restart or what [07:41] wait [07:41] Yes man [07:41] I'm saying... How long do I wait before restarting? [07:41] have you got plug and play stuff plugged in [07:41] like muisic usb [07:42] What's muisic? [07:42] it will open a window and say resume boot [07:42] music [07:42] Well, it's not Ubuntu text specifically. And it's not Ubuntu colors. [07:42] forget plug and play for now [07:42] I don't care about the plug and play [07:42] it will work dodo [07:42] Do you know what the last thing it'll say is? [07:42] Like... [07:42] It says... [07:43] "Write cache; enabled, read cache: enabled" [07:43] its just telling you what is sees is there now [07:43] and then [07:43] "attached scsi generic " [07:43] and then the "freeing initrd memory" etc [07:43] yes its working through everything [07:43] But it's not moving or changing, is what I'm saying. [07:43] It's stuck on the freed memory [07:43] And the number hasnt changed from 14712k [07:43] the recovery mode should fix your dash everytime it stops working as well [07:44] I thought Ubuntu was supposed to be error free. Why would I need to fix the dash? I WANT NO MORE ERRORS [07:44] go make tea or coffee or something [07:44] Let's go back to pen and paper, sheesh [07:44] because you use dash to open stuff it doesnt know about [07:45] ubuntu is error free mostly [07:45] peeps add the errors [07:45] * TaraLS googles. [07:45] Hm. [07:46] Maybe I should boot with USB [07:46] See what happens [07:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/40093 [07:46] just turn off and then on again [07:47] Okay then [07:47] those are very old ubuntus [07:48] Well [07:48] I switched off then on [07:48] dont think every bug on the internet applies to your pc [07:48] Selected 'ubuntu' [07:48] and it's not going through [07:48] Kilos: Dude [07:48] you need to state 12.10 in your search [07:49] Kilos: I don't. I was just reading that to see if anyone else had the 'hang' on the 'memory' part [07:49] I actually wanted to read if people said "This is normal. It takes x amount of time for it to go to the next stage" [07:49] do you know what dapper was [07:49] Nope [07:49] Maaz, ubuntu releases [07:49]