mspencer | I'm working on creating Contributor Console based on the specifications at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributorConsole. For questions I have related to the spec, should I contact the author specifically? Also, should I email him directly or talk to him in this channel? | 00:35 |
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xnox | mspencer: for some design questions it helps me a lot to file a small bug with a specific question & add tag "needs-design" | 02:21 |
xnox | mspencer: and then eventually ping mpt to review all of those bugs "needs-design" in bulk =) | 02:21 |
mspencer | xnox: file it in contributor-console? | 02:22 |
xnox | mspencer: yeap. | 02:22 |
mspencer | xnox: even questions like what am I to use for icons, etc? | 02:22 |
xnox | mspencer: by default mpt usually draws stuff that doesn't exist anywhere beforehand. Just write code away & use whiever icons are available (glade is very helpful browsing all available stock icons) | 02:23 |
mspencer | xnox: He uses an icon that looks like the bazaar icon but I think I can't use that do to licensing. So my question would be what does he want for that? | 02:27 |
xnox | mspencer: i'm sure you can use the bazaar icon. | 02:28 |
xnox | /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/bzr-panel.svg | 02:29 |
xnox | is shipped in the bzr-gtk package. | 02:29 |
* xnox thinks that icon is also available in plain bzr or maybe bzr-doc packages. | 02:30 | |
mspencer | xnox: I thought I could use the bazaar, but I asked on #launchpad but was told that it was "LP icons are propoetary and only used for development and test usage" | 02:30 |
xnox | mspencer: bzr icon != launchpad icon | 02:31 |
mspencer | xnox: Okay, I didn't think about that. | 02:31 |
xnox | mspencer: see /usr/share/doc/bzr-gtk/copyright GPL-2+ | 02:31 |
mspencer | xnox: Do I need to use icons that look as close to what mpt put or can I use icons that represent the same purpose? | 02:33 |
xnox | icons can always be improved later =) | 02:34 |
xnox | good night & have fun coding =) | 02:34 |
mspencer | xnox: Good night and thanks for your help! | 02:34 |
Chucrute301 | lets discuss about new ubuntu icons? | 02:35 |
mspencer | Chucrute301: Are you directing that to me? | 02:47 |
Chucrute301 | no, why? | 02:47 |
mspencer | Chucrute301: I was talking with xnox about icons and no one else replied to you so I wan't sure if that was meant for me. | 02:48 |
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desrt | jbicha: getting annoyed by gnome-disk-utility as well, hm? :P) | 16:35 |
mspencer | I'm working on Contributor Console based on the specification https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributorConsole. Should I create a blueprint based on the wiki spec? | 16:40 |
desrt | mspencer: blueprints are really only useful as a framework around which to organise UDS sessions and their results | 16:40 |
desrt | and they're kinda meaningless unless they get approved | 16:41 |
desrt | which usually only happens at/around UDS | 16:41 |
mspencer | desrt: Thanks | 16:42 |
mspencer | desrt: So in my case would I ever have a need to use blueprints? | 16:43 |
desrt | mspencer: to be honest i'm not sure where you should track the kind of work that you're doing | 16:43 |
desrt | maybe put a link in the wiki to your git repository or something? | 16:44 |
mspencer | desrt: mpt has linked to the launchpad project from the spec. | 16:44 |
desrt | ah. great. | 16:45 |
desrt | so just push stuff there :p | 16:45 |
desrt | i guess the most important thing is to ensure that nobody comes along and duplicates your efforts in a different place | 16:45 |
mspencer | For new features to the program do I need to talk to the author of the spec? | 16:45 |
desrt | i guess you should talk to mpt? | 16:46 |
mspencer | desrt: Am I free to modify the wiki page to say that the project has been started or do I need to get mpt to do that? | 16:46 |
desrt | mspencer: i guess you should feel free... it's just a wiki page | 16:47 |
desrt | but definitely try to talk to mpt on IRC | 16:47 |
mspencer | desrt: In this channel? | 16:47 |
desrt | mspencer: he'll probably be around during european working hours | 16:47 |
desrt | and yes.. he's usually in this channel | 16:47 |
mspencer | I don't want anyone to duplicate my work so far - should I wait to talk to mpt or should I update the wiki page now? | 16:48 |
mspencer | So far it says "but … it doesn’t exist yet." and points to the launchpad project I started. | 16:50 |
mspencer | How do I go about getting other people to help me with the project? Specifically, how do I find someone to create the main icon for the program? | 16:58 |
jbicha | desrt: you mean the problem with trying to jhbuild gnome-disk-utility? | 17:00 |
desrt | ya | 17:06 |
desrt | utter utter nonsense | 17:06 |
desrt | git master gnome-disk-utility depends on an unreleased(!) udisks and davidz is actively campaigning to have udisks excluded from jhbuild | 17:06 |
desrt | so like uh.... how the hell is that supposed to work? | 17:06 |
* desrt will have to talk to him on monday | 17:07 | |
jbicha | yeah it breaks jhbuild pretty bad | 17:08 |
desrt | well | 17:08 |
desrt | fortunately gvfs no longer depends on disk-utility | 17:08 |
desrt | so the breakage is actually fairly small these days | 17:08 |
desrt | just fails the metamodule | 17:08 |
jbicha | I was going to try submitting a patch for g-d-u but didn't bother when I ran into that | 17:08 |
jbicha | I was surprised that g-c-c still depends on systemd but I guess that's being worked on | 17:09 |
desrt | jbicha: i have a patch | 17:12 |
desrt | it's in bugzilla... i just apply it before i build g-c-c | 17:12 |
desrt | i got stuck working on some high-priority 'internal' stuff so i haven't been able to finish that up | 17:12 |
jbicha | yay skunkworks! | 17:13 |
happyaron | jbicha: hi, recently Ma Xiaojun has shown his frustration about the ibus intergration of GNOME \o/ | 17:14 |
happyaron | he was the only input method user who supported that intergration in action | 17:15 |
happyaron | I'd like to try to persuade you to use --disable-ibus as I've already suggested on Debian BTS. | 17:15 |
jbicha | happyaron: already done, Raring is using gnome-control-center and gnome-settings-daemon 3.6.3 with --disable-ibus | 17:16 |
happyaron | good to know that. current 3.8 has a totally broken input method experience, details are in desktop-devel-list, let's see what are the reaction of GNOME people then. | 17:17 |
jbicha | ricotz: hey is there any reason I shouldn't backport gnome-control-center 3.6 to the gnome3 ppa for quantal? | 19:14 |
ricotz | jbicha, hi, i don't think so, should be fine if you grab the unity-settings-panel too then | 19:22 |
jbicha | ricotz: right, I'll have the quantal g-c-c recommend that | 19:22 |
ricotz | good ;) | 19:23 |
jbicha | ricotz: I think we should having a separate experimental GNOME3 PPA for 3.8 for raring | 19:49 |
ricotz | jbicha, there is gnome3/gnome3-staging which already have some 3.7.x stuff | 19:52 |
ricotz | https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3-staging/+packages | 19:52 |
jbicha | ricotz: oh, cool | 19:54 |
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