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mspencerI'm working on creating Contributor Console based on the specifications at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributorConsole. For questions I have related to the spec, should I contact the author specifically? Also, should I email him directly or talk to him in this channel?00:35
xnoxmspencer: for some design questions it helps me a lot to file a small bug with a specific question & add tag "needs-design"02:21
xnoxmspencer: and then eventually ping mpt to review all of those bugs "needs-design" in bulk =)02:21
mspencerxnox: file it in contributor-console?02:22
xnoxmspencer: yeap.02:22
mspencerxnox: even questions like what am I to use for icons, etc?02:22
xnoxmspencer: by default mpt usually draws stuff that doesn't exist anywhere beforehand. Just write code away & use whiever icons are available (glade is very helpful browsing all available stock icons)02:23
mspencerxnox: He uses an icon that looks like the bazaar icon but I think I can't use that do to licensing. So my question would be what does he want for that?02:27
xnoxmspencer: i'm sure you can use the bazaar icon.02:28
xnox/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/bzr-panel.svg02:29
xnoxis shipped in the bzr-gtk package.02:29
* xnox thinks that icon is also available in plain bzr or maybe bzr-doc packages.02:30
mspencerxnox: I thought I could use the bazaar, but I asked on #launchpad but was told that it was "LP icons are propoetary and only used for development and test usage"02:30
xnoxmspencer: bzr icon != launchpad icon02:31
mspencerxnox: Okay, I didn't think about that.02:31
xnoxmspencer: see /usr/share/doc/bzr-gtk/copyright GPL-2+02:31
mspencerxnox: Do I need to use icons that look as close to what mpt put or can I use icons that represent the same purpose?02:33
xnoxicons can always be improved later =)02:34
xnoxgood night & have fun coding =)02:34
mspencerxnox: Good night and thanks for your help!02:34
Chucrute301lets discuss about new ubuntu icons?02:35
mspencerChucrute301: Are you directing that to me?02:47
Chucrute301no, why?02:47
mspencerChucrute301: I was talking with xnox about icons and no one else replied to you so I wan't sure if that was meant for me.02:48
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desrtjbicha: getting annoyed by gnome-disk-utility as well, hm? :P)16:35
mspencerI'm working on Contributor Console based on the specification https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributorConsole. Should I create a blueprint based on the wiki spec?16:40
desrtmspencer: blueprints are really only useful as a framework around which to organise UDS sessions and their results16:40
desrtand they're kinda meaningless unless they get approved16:41
desrtwhich usually only happens at/around UDS16:41
mspencerdesrt: Thanks16:42
mspencerdesrt: So in my case would I ever have a need to use blueprints?16:43
desrtmspencer: to be honest i'm not sure where you should track the kind of work that you're doing16:43
desrtmaybe put a link in the wiki to your git repository or something?16:44
mspencerdesrt: mpt has linked to the launchpad project from the spec.16:44
desrtah.  great.16:45
desrtso just push stuff there :p16:45
desrti guess the most important thing is to ensure that nobody comes along and duplicates your efforts in a different place16:45
mspencerFor new features to the program do I need to talk to the author of the spec?16:45
desrti guess you should talk to mpt?16:46
mspencerdesrt: Am I free to modify the wiki page to say that the project has been started or do I need to get mpt to do that?16:46
desrtmspencer: i guess you should feel free... it's just a wiki page16:47
desrtbut definitely try to talk to mpt on IRC16:47
mspencerdesrt: In this channel?16:47
desrtmspencer: he'll probably be around during european working hours16:47
desrtand yes.. he's usually in this channel16:47
mspencerI don't want anyone to duplicate my work so far - should I wait to talk to mpt or should I update the wiki page now?16:48
mspencerSo far it says "but … it doesn’t exist yet." and points to the launchpad project I started.16:50
mspencerHow do I go about getting other people to help me with the project? Specifically, how do I find someone to create the main icon for the program?16:58
jbichadesrt: you mean the problem with trying to jhbuild gnome-disk-utility?17:00
desrtya17:06
desrtutter utter nonsense17:06
desrtgit master gnome-disk-utility depends on an unreleased(!) udisks and davidz is actively campaigning to have udisks excluded from jhbuild17:06
desrtso like uh.... how the hell is that supposed to work?17:06
* desrt will have to talk to him on monday17:07
jbichayeah it breaks jhbuild pretty bad17:08
desrtwell17:08
desrtfortunately gvfs no longer depends on disk-utility17:08
desrtso the breakage is actually fairly small these days17:08
desrtjust fails the metamodule17:08
jbichaI was going to try submitting a patch for g-d-u but didn't bother when I ran into that17:08
jbichaI was surprised that g-c-c still depends on systemd but I guess that's being worked on17:09
desrtjbicha: i have a patch17:12
desrtit's in bugzilla... i just apply it before i build g-c-c17:12
desrti got stuck working on some high-priority 'internal' stuff so i haven't been able to finish that up17:12
jbichayay skunkworks!17:13
happyaronjbicha: hi, recently Ma Xiaojun has shown his frustration about the ibus intergration of GNOME \o/17:14
happyaronhe was the only input method user who supported that intergration in action17:15
happyaronI'd like to try to persuade you to use --disable-ibus as I've already suggested on Debian BTS.17:15
jbichahappyaron: already done, Raring is using gnome-control-center and gnome-settings-daemon 3.6.3 with --disable-ibus17:16
happyarongood to know that. current 3.8 has a totally broken input method experience, details are in desktop-devel-list, let's see what are the reaction of GNOME people then.17:17
jbicharicotz: hey is there any reason I shouldn't backport gnome-control-center 3.6 to the gnome3 ppa for quantal?19:14
ricotzjbicha, hi, i don't think so, should be fine if you grab the unity-settings-panel too then19:22
jbicharicotz: right, I'll have the quantal g-c-c recommend that19:22
ricotzgood ;)19:23
jbicharicotz: I think we should having a separate experimental GNOME3 PPA for 3.8 for raring19:49
ricotzjbicha, there is gnome3/gnome3-staging which already have some 3.7.x stuff19:52
ricotzhttps://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3-staging/+packages19:52
jbicharicotz: oh, cool19:54
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