[05:25] <ScottK> doko_: Do you mind if I rescore your GCC 4.7 upload down on powerpc?  We are still way behind there and it's holding up migrations from proposed.
[05:26] <ScottK> doko_: I'm going to go ahead and do it.  Let me know if that's a problem?
[10:08] <lollisoft> General advice in managing vendor repositories when using build services like CC or Hudson / Jenkins? How do you handle this? Pull at build or keep a vendor src code copy?
[15:37] <penguin42> hmm; if I've got a fix for a crasher that's caused by a debian patch, but doesn't seem to trigger on debian, what do I do - add another patch or change the debian patch?
[15:52] <cjwatson> penguin42: Judgement call, mostly depending on what you think will be easier to merge in future, or on the flip of a coin.  I've done both in the past.
[15:52] <cjwatson> I don't think it's desperately important.
[15:53] <cjwatson> Sometimes if the patch stack on top is complex then modifying the Debian patch can be less confusing all round.
[16:01] <penguin42> ok, I think I'll modify the patch, it's a 1 line removal; (it's bug 1069897)
[16:02] <penguin42> cjwatson: I'm tempted to open a debian bug for it as well, even though it doesn't seg for them, but they're on gdb 7.4 so it's possible that something has changed in the gdb cleanup system
[20:28] <penguin42> if there's a bored patch pilot hiding, I'd appreciate if they could have a glance at my branch to fix bug 1069897
[20:34] <patr|ck> sorry to intrude once again, but the support channel is not the right place for such questions. how can i find out what CPU and I/O scheduling settings are used in Ubuntu 12.04 and newer, please?
[20:49] <jtaylor> patr|ck: in /boot/config*
[20:50] <jtaylor> I guess, please be more specific
[20:50] <patr|ck> jtaylor, thats the entire configuration, no config file settings?
[20:51] <jtaylor> patr|ck: what exactly are you looking for?
[20:52] <patr|ck> e.g. when i copy large chunks of data around my desktop is unusable till these transfers are complete. or i have a software that is indexing wikipedia and using xulrunner a lot. and my system freezes frequently
[20:52] <patr|ck> i wanna get to the source of the problem
[20:53] <jtaylor> those are pretty common problems with linux defaults in general, /boot/config* should contain the information you need
[20:54] <jtaylor> you are probably interested in the schedulers and swapping settings
[20:54] <patr|ck> can you point me to resources that instruct how to fix this common problem?
[20:55] <jtaylor> I'm not sure there is a solution, if it is its probably by using non standard schedulers that may require recompilation
[20:55] <patr|ck> okay, thank you
[20:55] <jtaylor> e.g. bfs is supposed to be better for interactive use, but don'T know how true that is nowadays
[22:18] <hrw> hi
[22:19] <hrw> can someone explain to me why apport has so broken dependencies?
[22:19] <hrw> hrw@krolik:/var/log$ apport-collect 1082742
[22:19] <hrw> You need to run 'sudo apt-get install python-apport' for apport-collect to work.
[22:20] <hrw> hrw@krolik:/var/log$ apport-collect 1082742
[22:20] <hrw> ERROR: The launchpadlib Python module is not installed. This functionality is not available.
[22:21] <hrw> 1. apt-get install apport 2. apport-collect 3. apt-get install python-apport 4. apport-collect 5. apt-get install python-launchpadlib
[22:21] <hrw> WHY?
[22:21] <hrw> if apport-collect is useless without python-launchpadlib and python-apport then split it to separate package if you do not want to add those packages when apport is installed
[22:25] <cjwatson> hrw: You might do better to ask when pitti is around
[22:27] <hrw> cjwatson: now I am reporting bug about it. this way I will not forget
[22:28] <hrw> Bug #1082743
[22:30] <hrw> sometimes I am tired of missing dependencies in ubuntu packages
[22:34] <xnox> hrw: because we do not want launchpadlib on the cd.
[22:34] <xnox> hrw: use ubuntu-bug in small environments / live-cd the apport-collect indeed wants more dependencies than ubuntu-bug to talk to launchpad.
[22:35] <hrw> xnox: split apport-collect to separate package?
[22:36] <hrw> xnox: I use launchpad directly for reporting bugs as this is easier that way.
[22:36] <hrw> Bug #1082742 is more annoying anyway
[22:37] <xnox> hrw: I see your usecase. Maybe it should be split.
[22:37] <hrw> or rather users which ask me on google+ how to get rid of it
[22:37] <hrw> xnox: cool
[22:43] <slangasek> hrw: is bug #1082742 new with plymouth 0.8.8-0ubuntu1?
[22:48] <hrw> slangasek: no, it is also in precise and quantal iirc
[22:48] <slangasek> ok
[22:49] <slangasek> it's possible this is related to the bugs ogra-cb_ was reporting on the nexus7
[22:50] <hrw> maybe
[22:51] <hrw> slangasek: do you have bug numbers?
[22:51] <slangasek> hrw: no, just a verbal report on IRC
[22:52] <hrw> ok
[22:52] <hrw> I prefer to not move to kernel with hardcoded cmdline (if this is reason)
[22:53] <slangasek> but yeah, he was talking about the issues with parsing of console= in plymouth
[22:53] <hrw> yep, same problem
[22:53] <slangasek> console= args are obviously meant to be "all of the above", not "either/or"
[23:01] <iamsrp> hi
[23:01] <iamsrp> it looks like 'git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/hwe/ubuntu-nexus7.git' is currently failing
[23:02] <iamsrp> "kernel.ubuntu.com[0: 91.189.94.216]: errno=Connection refused"
[23:02] <iamsrp> known issue?
[23:50]  * achiang is playing around w/apport-retrace... where can i find a sample apport crash report to play with? would i just download all the .txt files in bug #252046, e.g.?