[04:52] morning all of ya [05:12] hi [06:27] morning y'all [06:30] magespawn, Hiya [06:31] TaraLS: how is the pc? [06:38] magespawn, The same. It hasn't frozen yet in the last six hours, though I haven't been doing anything but text-based browsing, essentially. [06:39] mmm so not actually any closre to finding out what it was then [06:40] Nope [06:40] I'm sure it's the CPU. I'll get it sorted eventually [06:41] morning [06:45] Squirm, Hiya. [06:45] hey Squirm [06:45] just sorted one here in the shop that was a faulty power supply [06:46] Power Supply tester ftw [06:46] What were the symptoms? [06:46] but when i tested the power supply directly it was fine [06:46] What's a power supply teter? [06:46] tester* [06:46] power on the board fan startting up and hard drive spinning up but no post or anything on the screen [06:47] * Squirm goes back to watching Futurama [06:47] a little black box that allows you test the power from the supply without plugging into a motherboard [06:55] I have a question, actually [06:55] My motherboard temp, on Hardware Sensors Detector, shows in the red for any degree above 28c. How do I change that? [06:57] yo mazal [06:57] hi TaraLS [06:57] Môre oom Kilos [06:57] there should be somewhere in the bios where you set the temp for the mb [06:57] Morning magespawn [06:57] hey Kilos [06:57] hi magespawn [06:57] Good day mazal [06:58] have you still got that link to that other drive tool?i forget what it was called [06:58] Hiyo Kilos [06:58] magespawn, Okeydokey. I will fiddle around later. What's a good temp for it? [06:58] Morning TaraLS [06:59] i generally set the cut of temp at 75 celsius [06:59] is the cpu reaches that the pc will automatocally switch off [07:02] Kilos you talking to me? [07:02] lol yeah [07:03] hows things? [07:03] good and you? [07:03] remember it was something also about data recovery in place without saving to somewhere else [07:03] i think [07:03] im ok ty [07:04] maybe you were on the fone at the time i forget [07:06] ah magespawn i think it was this one [07:06] http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/mbrtool.htm [07:06] scrolled back in maaz [07:07] and this http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/DiskPatch.htm [07:07] whew [07:10] ill try get them after 11pm on night surfer data if i can stay awake [07:10] Maaz is good for that [07:10] yeah i forget to scroll back where i am pm ing him [07:11] got 1400 lines saved there [07:11] amazing the stuff i ask the bot [07:12] or get him to search google for me [07:12] mazal, Hiya [07:12] Whew it's hot. Disgusting. [07:14] magespawn, you gonna write a testimnial for the re approval thing [07:14] testimonial [07:15] was thinking about it [07:15] good [07:15] im too doff [07:17] hah [07:18] but you spend the most time and for most newcomers are the first contact [07:19] ya but havent even got an idea on writing a testimonial [07:19] hey bmg505 all good with ZS6LMG [07:26] has drubin replied yet on where he got all those stats from 2 years ago? [07:26] hi Squirm yawner [07:27] Kilos just write what Ubuntu-za means for you and have done for you [07:27] thats like 100 pages mazal [07:27] Zip it lol [07:27] lol [07:27] hehe [07:28] That's fine , maybe the guys can just put link there to the document [07:28] hi [07:28] Hi Squirm [07:29] Even someone like Tara can give a good testimonial [07:30] Tara me lady , where are you ? [07:32] wow I'm bored [07:33] lol @ Squirm [07:33] aw nothing interesting to do Squirm [07:34] none whatsoever [07:34] oi [07:38] anyone suggest a good Netbook distro? I'm tempted to put mint onto it. but may be a little heavy [07:38] Xubuntu ? [07:39] How many ram Squirm ? [07:39] or lubuntu [07:39] I guess I could live with xfce [07:40] don't like lxde, little too light :P [07:40] i love xfce [07:40] I'll give xubuntu a shot [07:40] don't like Vector Linux which is currently installed [07:56] Puppy Squirm? [07:57] mazal, Testimonial? [07:58] magespawn: still want something nice and usable :P [07:58] *puts on American infomercial accent* "I had problems with a certain OTHER Operation System, but once I tried Linux's Distro Ubuntu, I found that it wasn't the end of the world for me! :D I was back, up and running, and ready to rolll! THANKS, Ubuntu." [07:58] I guess I can't have everything [07:58] lol [07:58] TaraLS: Ubuntu isn't half of it [07:58] * Squirm runs [07:59] Pfft, don't spoil the fun, Squirm. [07:59] Or I really WILL make you squirm. [07:59] * TaraLS brandishes a hot poker. [07:59] I'm having fun [07:59] * Squirm brandishes his bottom [08:01] okay then none of that 50 Shades of Grey stuff [08:06] sorry magespawn, unlike you I haven't read it so I don't know what you mean by that [08:06] :P [08:06] I apologise. I'm bored and in a weird mood :/ [08:06] hehe [08:07] no worries all in good fun, and i have not read it either [08:07] can't wait till January [08:08] school is upgrading to 4*4Mbit bonded lines [08:08] so 16 Mbit altogether [08:09] oh yes :) [08:09] i will be interested in how that changes your browsing [08:09] least theoretically, will be interesting to see if I get that speed [08:09] and our ISP is linked to the TENET backbone [08:09] ^^ [08:11] * magespawn is watching HakTip on Linux Terminal 101 [08:15] hi psydroid [08:26] magespawn, Fifty Shades. I have read it. [08:26] It is written horrendously badly. [08:26] Like it's written by some horny thirteen year old. [08:26] Just... ugh. [08:26] right [08:27] Sorry TaraLS , wasn't paying attention :P [08:27] What I meant by testimonial is that type of thing you wrote yes [08:27] thanks for the warning [08:28] And maybe saying that the ZA community helps people as far as possible with Ubuntu problems etc. [08:28] Oh [08:29] How's that pc btw ? [08:29] I saw you guys were busy with heating again this morning ? [08:32] Eh. [08:33] See a bit later guys [08:33] Need to go get some things [08:33] My PC is LAME. That is all. [08:33] Take care, mazal. [09:52] good morning [09:53] Maaz: coffee on [09:53] * Maaz washes some mugs [09:56] hi charl_ [09:56] hi Kilos [09:56] macoffee please [09:56] eish [09:56] Maaz, coffee please [09:56] Kilos: Okay [09:57] Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos! [09:57] Maaz, ty [09:57] You are welcome Kilos [09:59] friendly warning, dont use boot-repair on kde [10:00] ah, it's a mess [10:00] Maaz: thanks [10:00] charl_: Sure [10:00] did it from unity to kde and now kde drive is lost [10:01] ok [10:02] from gnome to gnome you gotta actually boot into second drive start repair then uplug power to first drive to get it to only use the second drive [10:02] i have tried to manually fix my boot sector a few times using various grub command line tools [10:02] but i have almost always failed [10:02] and it cant go into kde so you cant boot from there [10:02] ended up reinstalling is the easiest [10:02] cant [10:03] drive shows as unallocated in gparted but can allocate anything to it [10:03] or partition [10:03] or activate or enable [10:03] sjoe [10:03] sounds irritating [10:03] very [10:07] i often use xp to fixboot and fixmbr but stupid xp cant see sata drives without getting some driver or something [10:07] grrr [10:07] bah [10:08] lol [10:08] so tinight will get some new mbr boot + partition tools [10:09] tonight [10:29] rofl [10:30] If a man speaks in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong ? [10:30] ha ha ha [10:38] ib [11:02] wbb [11:04] haai [11:17] hi Vince-0 [11:17] hi charl [11:38] mazal, inetpro confluency superfly Have a lookie: http://slexy.org/view/s21OHhcisn [11:39] later all [11:39] magespawn, Nuuu. [11:39] magespawn, Well okay. Toodles. :) [11:39] why? [11:39] Just to get a bit of feedback. But it's not necessary. [11:39] can spare a few [11:40] will check it [11:40] :D [11:40] http://slexy.org/view/s21OHhcisn <-- [11:40] At the bottom is the result of all that nonsense. I just wanted to share the temperatures etc [11:40] My MB has been up past 51c before (and it says that 'high' for it is 45c) [11:41] CPU is running very cool [11:41] 37 degrees is not very hot [11:43] Ya. :) [11:43] It goes up to 53c when I stream/convert streaming bideo though [11:43] video that is [11:43] Not high enough to make it freeze [11:43] Hm. [11:43] My dual core always ran at 55 to 58 under load [11:43] It shows in the red on the temps. [11:43] My MB is at 35 now and showing red [11:44] It shows red on anything above 28c [11:44] But I think you said that's something changeable in the bios [11:44] SOmewhere. [11:44] seems all fine to me too [11:44] No I didn't comment on the bios [11:44] Does that mean that my hardware is fine then, or? [11:44] Like... I don't get it. [11:44] Your cpu is def fine [11:44] :| darn it [11:44] Those temps are normal [11:45] Like, on Hardware Sensor Detect, the CPU and 'cores' are different things [11:45] The cores are almost always at 37c [11:45] And CPU fluctuates [11:45] It's at 33c currently [11:45] it "looks" fine, but you never know [11:45] cpu haas two cores inside it [11:46] Does the temps in bios say about the same TaraLS ? [11:46] If I recall correctly, I thiiiink they did. I will restart in a moment and check. [11:47] TaraLS: you can set the emergency cut off due to high heat in some bios [11:47] magespawn, But isn't it there for a reason? [11:47] so that if a fan fails then the pc will switch itself off before the critical tempreature is reached [11:47] Emergency cut off prevents damage. I don't want to cause damage. [11:47] Yeah [11:48] It basically shuts your pc down before the cpu blows [11:48] what i was saying though if the sensor is sensing high heat when it actually is not then it may be turning the machine off anyway [11:49] in other words the sensor is damaged in some way [11:49] Hm. [11:50] Is it possible for only the sensor to be damaged? [11:50] Did the pc start shutting down also ? [11:51] that was my theory [11:52] No. [11:52] It shut down once. [11:52] Well [11:52] It rebooted [11:52] Without warning [11:52] Every other time, it just freezes. [11:52] Cant even do the reisusb thingy to restart [11:53] i am off home see you all later [11:53] Bye magespawn [11:53] need lunch and need to do some manual labour [11:53] magespawn, *wave* [11:53] I wonder if that PSU is ok [11:54] oi [11:54] How do I check the PSU without actually swapping it out and using another? [11:54] Mom's is 250Watts. Mine's 400w [11:55] But then the live should have caused issues too [11:55] That's the thing that keeps puzzling [11:56] mazal, Well... [11:56] The live did cause issues eventually [11:56] You can use this : http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp to calculate if you have enough power [11:57] I had the computer on for about two days, and then I got hardware sensors detect on live, to see what the temps were doing when I used live, and then live froze [11:57] And that is IF the PSU is working fine [11:57] I had to do sudo apt-get-update to fully install sensors [11:57] And then I restarted, restarted live, didn't get the sensors or do any updates, and it still froze [11:57] My comp had been on for about two and a half days without a break at that point [11:57] hmm [11:59] Forget that calculator btw , I see it is way outdated [12:00] I was gonna say... I have to input a lot of stuff. And why does it matter if it is outdated? [12:01] This one seems better http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/ [12:01] The other one didn't even have core2duo [12:01] Whew... okay. Here I go. [12:01] Do you know what cpu you have ? [12:02] It's an intel dual-core E5300 somethingorother [12:02] That means I have 2 physical CPUs, right? [12:03] one physical cpu with two cores in it [12:03] Nope [12:03] Ok I'll try do it for you Tara [12:03] Just tell me what you have [12:04] omg [12:04] How many ram ? [12:04] 4gig [12:04] I did the CPU part [12:04] 2 sticks ? or 1 stick ? [12:04] 2 DDR2 [12:04] 2 2gig [12:05] k [12:05] 3d card ? [12:05] Nvidia , what model ? [12:05] I did that already [12:05] I have no idea what to do for HDD [12:05] nVidia GeForce 9500 [12:05] Def 3D or Unity wouldn't run [12:06] HDD would probably be IDE 7200 [12:06] 1 TB sata [12:07] Ech well [12:07] Without the HDD stuff, and with a CD-ROM drive added [12:07] I need 266W [12:07] And I've obviously got more than what I've only put in thus far. [12:08] Mine gives 302W [12:08] So you well within limits [12:08] IF it is fine [12:08] I dunno what PCI card to select, or anything else [12:08] Yeah. [12:08] Remember over time a PSU can start to give less power [12:08] But not within the limits of mom's, so I can't use IT to test. [12:08] "remember". I didn't even know that :P [12:08] But my other computer lasted four years. [12:08] hehehe [12:09] Then I sploded it. [12:09] Granted... [12:09] The house I was in then was much better electrically than this piece of eck house [12:09] Then there is things like unstable power , dust etc [12:09] (I haven't had a surge protector the entire time) [12:09] That can effect and damage it as well [12:10] I have seen before that a PSU get's damaged and gives only have the wattage it should [12:10] Wow [12:10] Is there a way to check it without having to swap it out with another? [12:10] But only way to test is to unplug it and plug in a different one [12:10] And are you SURE the CPU is fine? [12:10] Darn. [12:11] Well according to your heat read-outs it is defnitely not overheating [12:11] :( [12:11] But that is IF the sensor is fine and actually giving the correct reading [12:11] And you can tell by me looking in the bios? [12:12] Ooh. 680w power supply only $40 AUssie dollarz [12:12] No if the sensor is faulty the bios reading will be faulty as well [12:12] Can too much power be a super bad thing? [12:12] Well bugger. [12:12] You shouldn't spend money on a psu [12:12] Maybe it is ok [12:12] You should test it first [12:12] I won't spend money on anything until I know for sure what it is. [12:13] Ya that is best policy [12:13] But, I can't test it on mom's PSU. So where do I get a spare one that has enough power? [12:13] THAT be the big problem [12:13] Yeah [12:16] I tell you what though [12:16] All this PC nonsense [12:16] I'm a lot less intimidated looking at individual parts now than I was before. [12:17] Could the CPU still be an issue, even if its not overheating? [12:17] What about the mb? [12:17] The mb can be yes [12:17] It can be any of your hardware [12:18] Okay. I'ma see if I can find mb temperatures in the bios somewhere (though I don't remember seeing it; unless it's like northbridge/southbridge?). Then I'm going to sleep. [12:18] Cuz I'm super tired. [12:18] And I need to be lucid in an hour and a half for rugby [12:18] K , sleep well [12:18] * TaraLS waves. [12:18] thanks for your help, mazal. [12:18] Toodles Kilos. [12:18] Your welcome [12:18] toods kiddo [13:41] yo not_found-droid [13:42] i found you so nick change wont metter [13:42] matter either [13:50] Driving [14:48] Sjoe , have forgotten how slow cd-rw burns [14:59] And now ubuntu doesn't recognize the disc. hmm ??? [15:00] ai [15:00] what did you burn with [15:00] Brasero [15:01] Redoing on k3b now [15:01] ya i find k3b a bit better at times === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [16:54] evening superfly and others [16:54] i wont be on late head thumping === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [17:31] hi magtie Trix[a]r_za [17:32] Hi Kilos & Everyone [17:40] * mazal is bored [17:43] i go sleep now. night mazal [17:43] see you all morrow [17:43] Nag oom , lekker slaap [17:43] dankie jy ook [20:54] wooo hooo finally got the quassel to work again [21:03] now off to bed sell you all tomorrow [21:04] sell? you're going to sell me? *boohoohoohoo* [21:32] lol [22:06] why arent you all asleep [22:11] Kilos: gaan slaap [22:12] die donnerweer my no wakker gemaak [22:12] haha [22:12] naand inetpro hoekom slaap jy nie [22:12] * inetpro slaap lankal [22:12] ai skuus het ek jou gewakker [22:12] hoi Kilos en inetpro [22:12] hi psydroid [22:13] we running ten past midnight here [22:13] * inetpro goes back to snooze mode and ignores further conversation [22:13] hehe [22:14] and i forgot to fp [22:14] * inetpro dreaming that Kilos is awake and chatting on #ubuntu-za [22:14] haha [22:15] nightmare [22:15] lol [22:15] good night everyone [22:15] good night inetpro [22:15] night inetpro sleep tight [22:16] it's an hour earlier here [22:16] he was afk [22:16] and not away but asleep at keyboard [22:17] hehe [22:31] Kilos: GO TO BED! [22:31] oh my [22:31] and you superfly [22:31] I'm not here... [22:31] im looking for mbr + boot tools [22:31] my kde is gone [22:32] Live CD + reinstall grub [22:32] YOU go to bed, just now you are also an old man [22:32] cant see the drive at all [22:33] boot-repair killed it [22:33] * superfly disappears for real [22:33] or can see it but shows it as unallocated space and cant allocate or make new partitions [22:34] night superfly [22:34] sleep tight [22:34] night all not asleep yet [22:35] night Kilos [22:36] Kilos: nag oom, I hope you get some more sleep [22:37] ty sir you too.