=== yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:34] added a couple FAQ to the draft, and browsing through the -users archive for more [17:34] sounds good [17:34] i didn't send the email to the ML about the roadmap [17:35] i honestly think i did [17:35] ... [17:35] no cookies for you [17:35] otoh, we have enough to work on anyway [17:35] any issues with the menu editor? [17:35] good ideas are ++, but if nobody outside the team is willing to work on them, then they are as meaningful as null [17:35] menu editor? [17:36] what kind of issues? [17:36] oh, for the FAQ [17:36] "any" :) [17:36] yes [17:36] well, it hasn't been perfect [17:36] i'm not sure what the exact problems are [17:36] it isn't always able to edit the menus correctly [17:36] and some people have had "even if i uncheck this, it is re-enabled automatically" [17:37] ok [17:37] but i'm not sure if it has more to do with the menu editor or permission problems [17:37] * pleia2 nods [17:37] i'd want to say "it's not perfect, use menulibre", but i don't think that would be the best solution [17:37] yeah [17:37] is thunar still duplicating partitions for people? [17:38] yeah [17:38] evening [17:38] hey elf [17:38] y [17:38] how about "long time to start thunar"? [17:38] that too. [17:38] should that FAQ question just be copied from the last FAQ? [17:38] * pleia2 thinks so [17:39] * elfy would agree [17:39] or just add the question and link to the old FAQ, so we don't need to maintain two versions of the question [17:39] ...if we decide to change the wording [17:39] knome: will the dupe partition fixes move from proposed ? [17:39] most probably not [17:39] but you'd need to discuss it with mr_pouit [17:39] R isn't LTS, and i don't want to use too much time fixing things in it [17:40] er, Q [17:40] :P [17:40] so people need to enable proposed, update thunar and the desktop and then disable proposed if they want them [17:40] and don't want to keep proposed that is [17:40] they're running a non-lts version anyway [17:41] for P... again, we'd need to talk with mr_pouit about it [17:41] yea - it's just a really annoying issue lol - if I could have done more than report it I would have lol [17:41] i'm not sure what counts as something that can go to anything else than -proposed [17:41] :) [17:42] and i don't know if there's other possible implications [17:42] anyway - I'll let you two chat about the faq [17:42] "let"? i have to! [17:42] * knome hides [17:43] * pleia2 slave driver [17:43] :) [17:43] hahah [17:43] I would help but I've got a bone in my leg [17:43] elfy, hmm... i have some too [17:43] lol - took my kids ages to realise that ... used it as an excuse not to do things for ages [17:44] biab [17:44] heh [17:44] we're not your kids ;) [17:55] oh good [17:55] I'd be almost 90 ... [17:55] hahaha [17:55] bah, my mother turns 52 this year :) [17:56] my kids dad turns 50 next [17:57] where is the make windows not go tiling option [17:58] ah, tweaks [18:05] ok, I'm on my way out the door now, I've added some, fixed up some - knome can you have a look and see if we can get it closer to the finish line? :) [18:39] pleia2, i'll do that [18:40] pleia2, common questions seem to be: duplicated disks on desktop, and alacarte doesnt work [18:40] GridCube, that's what she added [18:41] oh havent read sorry [18:52] pleia2, question 9 its the same as question 1 for 12.04 faq [18:52] also number 2 its 8 [18:53] people is already encouraged to check previous faqs [18:53] no need to repeat questions [18:53] GridCube, did you read the backlog? [18:54] just did === JoseAntonioR is now known as Guest64314 [18:54] thats why im telling that last two comments === Guest64314 is now known as JoseeAntonioR [18:54] no need to repeat ourselfs [21:02] GridCube: I figured they were important faq so it didn't hurt to repeat them [21:02] okay [21:03] we're trying to be helpful :) not make people go back and read things when they can't find an answer [21:03] (plus it reduces burden on support) [21:03] though i personally think a link would do [21:03] i think that too [21:04] but redundancy its good sometimes [21:04] under the question, just tell "go read Qn from X" [21:04] * pleia2 nods [21:04] that would do [21:04] * pleia2 off to take cat to vet \o/ [21:04] that way we'll avoid having to maintain several posts if/when we want/need to change the wording [21:19] oh, i missed the last comment [21:19] wondering where everybody went [21:19] :P [22:14] * bluesabre is hiding [22:24] * knome hides from bluesabre [22:34] installing menulibre to test it now [22:34] bluesabre, btw, if you want more testing for menulibre now, be in touch with elfy and he'll do the work calling for testers [22:34] s/installing/upgrading/ :) [22:36] bluesabre, can confirm #1072133 is fixed [22:36] bug 1072133, stupid ubottu (: [22:36] Launchpad bug 1072133 in MenuLibre "Menulibre has no icon in quantal quetzal" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1072133 [22:38] bluesabre, can't see anything failing re: bug 1040027 [22:38] Launchpad bug 1040027 in MenuLibre "Menulibre can't find some apps" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040027 [22:38] bluesabre, and can't really test the rest [ [22:38] [: [22:39] heya [22:39] hello adnan [22:39] thanks knome! [22:39] np [22:39] just let me know if i can help with testing on Q [22:40] Sure thing. Pretty sure it should be good now, except it seems some icons aren't showing up for ochosi [22:40] augh. [22:40] maybe it has something to do with OnlyShowIn, and wrong WM in the config? [22:41] shouldn't matter with how I wrote the program [22:41] ok [22:41] just throwing in ideas [22:41] but, maybe ochosi can find the source of the bug on his setup? [22:41] :) [22:43] anyway, menulibre still looks great [22:46] adnan, so, #xubuntu-offtopic is not worthy enough anymore? ;) [22:46] my bad [22:46] gotta setup autojoin [22:59] pleia2: note that fixes for thunar, xfdesktop4 (dup partitions) and alacarte (wrong menu file chosen) are in quantal-proposed. [22:59] I've no control over that, they have the 'verification-done' tag, so they should be moved soon to quantal-updates [23:01] oh, so we're doing that well [23:01] i'm so off the track for FOSS right now [23:01] tbe, i'm off the track for most things now [23:02] mr_pouit: oh good, I'll be sure to include a note about all of them (currently I just wrote that fix for thunar is in -proposed) [23:04] Can anyone see if it's just me with xfdesktop and a memleak? After a few days, it'll creep up to 17% ram usage in a 2G computer. [23:04] no issue here, and I never reboot [23:05] 12.10 [23:06] Alright, if that's the case I'll ignore it and just have cron kill it every morning. :P (Have to love autorespawn) [23:38] added thunar 1.5.3 to the 4.12 ppa.