[00:09] <cjae> is the kde that is distributed with kubuntu a vanilla kde with some tweaks or is it a complete work over
[00:11] <skreech__> Some tweaks
[00:11] <skreech__> basically some choosier selection of applications
[00:27] <skreech__> cjae: But as an indication any bugs that are fixed in Kubuntu are directly applied to the upstream KDE repos long as it isn't a Kubuntu specific application like Muon
[00:28] <cjae> ahh I see
[00:28] <cjae> thanks
[02:08] <Doyle> Hello.
[02:09] <Doyle> I'm messing with widgets today. The network mnonitor widget doesn't capture activity while the screen saver is active. Has anyone else noticed this?
[02:09] <Doyle> Monitoring wlan0 atm.
[02:12] <skreech__> Doyle: I haven't but then I never use WifI
[02:13] <Doyle> Fair enough. My laptop's always on WiFi. Kept the drop for my ps
[02:14] <skreech__> What were you monitioring?
[02:18] <Doyle> Just wanted the widget on my desktop
[02:18] <Doyle> Checking out the difference in delivery from various video hosts
[02:21] <Doyle> I don't want to breakout dedicated tools, just a quick visual for reference as I progress through my task list
[02:21] <Doyle> coming back and having a blank in the mon history from the screen saver is messing with me though
[02:48] <skreech__> Doyle: file a bug perhaps?
[02:49] <Doyle> Will do.
[04:48] <Rosbuntu> does anyone have any idea how to rescue the files from lost+found folder?
[05:14] <Abraham> can anyone tell me how do i rescue files from lost+found folder
[05:57] <Daskreech> Abraham: umm depends on the file
[05:57] <Daskreech>  sometimes you can just rename them if they are small enough
[05:58] <Abraham> rename the folder?
[05:58] <Daskreech> the file
[06:01] <Daskreech> Abraham: Are youalso Rosbuntu?
[06:30] <YoklJO> i recently installed kubuntu on my friend's laptop, which already had fedora and windows 7 installed, and both conencted fine to the wireless at their place. However, kubuntu connects, gets an IP etc, seems to do dns properly, but just cannot do anything apart from that. (also note that it connects fine to my personal wireless, so its not completely broken)
[06:31] <YoklJO> btw. this is 12.04
[06:33] <YoklJO> and ive followed all the step-by-step "fix your wireless" instructions i could find
[07:01] <Daskreech> YoklJO: What have you tried?
[07:02] <Daskreech> YoklJO: For diagnosis? pinging by ip adress by name?
[07:24] <Ab3L> hi
[07:47] <Abraham> how do u write your own regional language in kubuntu ?
[07:47] <Abraham> example : Bangla
[07:52] <Abraham> hey
[07:52] <phoenix_firebrd> Abraham: have you tried in the channel #kde-in?
[07:52] <Abraham> phoenix_firebrd:  no
[07:53] <phoenix_firebrd> Abraham: also try in  #ubuntu-in
[07:53] <Abraham> ok
[07:53] <phoenix_firebrd> Abraham: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171670/ubuntu-localization
[07:55] <phoenix_firebrd> Abraham: Do you want to type in your language?
[07:56] <Abraham> phoenix_firebrd:  yep
[07:56] <Abraham> in bangla
[08:00] <phoenix_firebrd> Abraham: is bangla different from bengali?
[08:00] <Abraham> phoenix_firebrd:  no
[08:00] <Abraham> Bangla and Bengali r same
[09:19] <cjae> is there a way to make the power settings recognize that flash is playing
[10:54] <Ab3L> for your information, to whom it may concern, conerning my problem of missing icon in the pannel (there is no proper icon for application "radiotray"), i had to put them in ~/.kde4/share/icons/ICONTHEME/. Now it works fine.
[11:21] <phoenix_firebrd> I have come to know that the default ubuntu firewall is disabled by default, so was my system vulnerable  in past and can a network switch firewall sufficient in place of the ubuntu firewall?
[11:29] <Torch> phoenix_firebrd: actually, you don't need something like a "firewall" if your machine does not run any services
[11:29] <Torch> phoenix_firebrd: per default, ubuntu does not do that, afaik
[11:29] <Torch> phoenix_firebrd: if you're behind some internet modem / router you're "firewalled" already indeed
[11:30] <phoenix_firebrd> Torch: thats nice, ty
[12:56] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[13:11] <cjae> anyone who wonders where the plasmoids/widgets are after a clean install. they can be downloaded from the repos
[13:14] <BluesKaj> 12.10 , cjae ?
[13:14] <cjae> -1
[13:14] <cjae> 12.04
[13:15] <cjae> man did I miss my quick access
[13:15] <cjae> there are lots that are not installed
[13:16] <cjae> plasmoid-widget-xxxxxx
[13:17] <BluesKaj> cjae, have you updated/upgraded/dist-upgrade since the install ?
[13:18] <cjae> no
[13:18] <BluesKaj> then that's your issue , not up to date
[13:18] <cjae> going to stay on .04 for awhile
[13:19] <cjae> of course ive updated
[13:19] <cjae> not going to leave lta for awhile
[13:19] <cjae> lts*
[13:20] <BluesKaj> that's fine , but bring it up to date , updating just sets up the repos , unpgrading installs the new upgrades to the packages , and dist-upgrade upgrades the kde packages and desktop environment
[13:21] <BluesKaj> within 12.04
[13:21] <BluesKaj> cjae,^
[13:23] <cjae>  whaaaa.... I thought dist-upgrade changes from 12.04 to 12.10
[13:24] <BluesKaj> cjae, nope , not anymore , not for a long time , do-release-upgrade does that
[13:25] <cjae> so the graphical update manager doesnt do all this ?
[13:26] <cjae> cause my fresh install is about a week old
[13:27] <cjae> so I think im good
[13:27] <cjae> I just discovered how to get the quick access back which was driving me nuts
[13:34] <BluesKaj> the gui update manager will if your settings to release upgrade are enabled , but on LTS versions they're usually defaulted to just upgrade packages within the release
[13:34] <BluesKaj> cjae,^
[13:34] <cjae> ok
[13:34] <cjae> checking
[13:39] <cjae> so all I see if long term release in release upgrade BluesKaj
[13:39] <cjae> and a pre-release check box
[13:40] <Tm_T> cjae: by default, LTS is upgraded to LTS
[13:40] <Tm_T> so 12.04 would offer upgrade to 14.04 eventually
[13:41] <cjae> ok but the only other option is to just accept normal distribution upgrades like 12.10
[13:42] <cjae> pre-release is like getting kde 4.9.9 for example on 12.04 or something, isnt it
[13:42] <Tm_T> no
[13:42] <Tm_T> it's like getting 13.04 now I think
[13:43] <cjae> what is kde at in 12.10
[13:43] <Tm_T> cjae: 4.9.x
[13:44] <Tm_T> cjae: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.9.3
[13:44] <cjae> I thought pre-release on my box would mean I would be able to install 4.9.3 on my box 12.04
[13:44] <Tm_T> that's not what it does though (:
[13:45] <Tm_T> 4.9.3 isn't "pre-release" anyway, it would be more like post-release if anything
[13:45] <cjae> oh right
[13:46] <cjae> so what does pre-release do anyway
[13:47] <Tm_T> it gives you the next (unreleased) version ignoring restrictions
[13:47] <Tm_T> so 12.04 -> 12.10
[13:47] <Tm_T> or 12.10 -> 13.04
[13:47] <Tm_T> if we're talking about the same configuration here
[13:51] <BluesKaj> 4.9.3 is in the Kubuntu Backports PPA for 12.04  https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
[13:52] <BluesKaj> cjae, ^
[13:58] <kbroulik> hi, how can I change (increase) dpi for fonts in lightdm kde greeter? the xft-dpi thing from the unity greeter doesnt work
[13:59] <cjae> Tm_T: holy fudge did that take to long http://www.imagerocket.net/view.php?pic=1353851898_snapshot20.jpeg
[14:01] <cjae> the long term support only .... i dont even care anymore lol
[14:02] <cjae> http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?55951-Quick-Access-Browser-widget-missing
[14:03] <cjae> afaik the system was updated as it was getting without doing anything to break it and the plasmoid was not thereee
[14:05]  * cjae waited long time for a kde LTA 
[14:06] <cjae> LTS*
[14:09] <cjae> does anyone else have vga and hdmi plugged in to a nivdia card w/o the properitary drivers install, and after grub screen closes there is a bad flicker and screen looks ...  bad nes cartridge load, but the it irons itself out and bring up kdm fine
[14:11] <cjae> I thought it was a bad boot splash so I removed it, but it still flicks bad, must be framebuffer or whatever is used
[15:39] <ManDay> Quick, I need help: Which query in the KDE-Menu or which application takes me to the place where I can manipulate and add Online Accounts (IRC, XMPP, SIP; etc)
[15:42] <Tm_T> ManDay: "instant messaging and voip" is the item in systemsettings
[15:42] <ManDay> Can I type that into the Start-menu?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> ManDay, kmenu>apps>internet>IM contacts
[15:43] <ManDay> Ty
[15:43] <ManDay> That's also good
[15:44] <K0J1R0> how i can install a new theme in kubuntu 12.10 with lightDM ?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> in lightdm ?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> K0J1R0, ^
[15:46] <K0J1R0> yep , i want install a different login screen
[15:47] <BluesKaj> K0J1R0, systemsettings>login screen
[15:47] <BluesKaj> !pm > K0J1R0
[15:54] <Obsidian1723> ManDay: Install Pidgin
[16:01] <ManDay> Obsidian1723: Hah, why should I do that?
[16:01] <ManDay> That's like the most absurd suggestion I could get
[16:07] <Tygart> ManDay: I am not sure if I understand you correctly.
[16:07] <Tygart> Look in System Settings > Instent Messaging and VoIP
[16:08] <Tygart> If your looking for an instent messenger
[16:08] <Tygart> there is also Thunderbird
[16:09] <ManDay> Tygart: BluesKaj's suggestion already helped me
[16:09] <Tygart> I just seen that.
[16:11] <BluesKaj> whatever happened to kopete , telepathy is buggy here
[16:13] <BluesKaj> altho i never used kopete much , atleast one could fill out the text fields without them jumping all iover the place when trying to type
[16:13] <BluesKaj> telepathy is hopeless
[16:20] <Obsidian1723> ManDay: I must have misunderstood your question then.
[16:20] <Obsidian1723> It appears that I'm not theo nly one though.
[16:23] <BluesKaj> hmm, neither telepathy nor kopete offer IRC availability anymore
[16:28] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: it was dropped from KTP on purpose
[16:29] <shadeslayer> there are amazing IRC clients out there, and it's best to use them instead of using something that probably didn't even offer half of those features
[16:30] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, agreed ... I was commenting, not complaining :)
[16:30] <shadeslayer> ah okay
[16:31] <BluesKaj> used kopete maybe 5 times in my linux life
[16:32] <BluesKaj> mostly exploratory
[17:21] <amichair_> !java
[17:21] <Katbuntu> Hi
[17:25] <Ab3L> hi. has someone activated the backports and is running kde 4.9?
[17:26] <amichair_> Ab3L: I'm on 4.9.3 from backports
[17:27] <amichair_> Ab3L: oh wait, which kubuntu are you running?
[17:27] <Ab3L> 12.4
[17:28] <Ab3L> since the month of may ;)
[17:29] <amichair_> Ab3L: actually I just got distracted and mixed up. I used to run it from backports on 12.04, now I'm on 12.10
[17:30] <amichair_> from the ppa
[17:31] <amichair_> so what's the question? :-)
[17:33] <Ab3L> i would like to feel the new 4.9 experience, but i'm afraid if the whole system crash. if it happens, i'll no idea on how to do to repair it.
[17:35] <amichair_> Ab3L: I don't notice much difference in the feel, except for a few more bugs in the nontifier (they seem to keep rewriting it, and keep getting it buggy - no idea why)
[17:40] <BluesKaj> Ab3L, I've heard of very few problems with 4.9.3 on 12.04 . so far it's been quite stable
[17:41] <Ab3L> ok. thank you everybody.
[17:43] <Anubis> what chat programs do you use for yahoo ?
[17:49] <BluesKaj> Anubis, look in kmenu>apps>internet for IM Contacts
[18:15] <thelionroars> anyone here use xchat?
[18:16] <thelionroars> I was wondering if it's possible to be on two servers at once - I'm usually on freenode and quakenet
[18:17] <onebitxajax> hi to all
[18:17] <onebitxajax> is that possibile to to an alt+2clck mouse  and maximize window?
[18:23] <suy> thelionroars: one of the nice things of IRC clients is that they usually have specific IRC channels ;-)  I doubt xchat is popular amongst #kubuntu users having nicer KDE alternatives
[18:23] <suy> onebitxajax: do you mean double clicking on the title bar to maximize?
[18:23] <thelionroars> what are the nicer alternatives :) ? quassel?
[18:24] <BluesKaj> thelionroars, yes just setup the servers in the xchat server settings
[18:24] <onebitxajax> suy: like that, but with alt i want to click in any part of the window and maximize it
[18:24] <suy> yep, quassel and konverstaion
[18:24] <thelionroars> thanks to both of you
[18:24] <onebitxajax> suy: if you take pressed alt, you can mouve the window. it's default setting
[18:24] <suy> onebitxajax: you can press and hold alt and use the _right_ button to resize, but not maximize
[18:24] <onebitxajax> suy: i want to extend this fature, with alt+2click = maximize
[18:25] <BluesKaj> thelionroars, konversation is really easy to setup several servers
[18:25] <onebitxajax> suy: WOW thanks
[18:25] <onebitxajax> suy: but i want to maximize
[18:25] <suy> onebitxajax: I don't know if that's possible... I think that the alt+(some click) is an X thing, not specific of the window manager, etc.
[18:26] <suy> Probably is doable. KWin seems capable of almost everything with the scripting features, but I don't know how to do it.
[18:33] <onebitxajax> mmmmmmmm
[18:34] <onebitxajax> suy: under window behivor i find a window action
[18:34] <onebitxajax> suy: there is all and not maximize :D LOL
[18:34] <simplew> Riddell: pring
[18:37] <BluesKaj> simplew, he's not logged on today
[18:38] <BluesKaj> oops there he is
[18:44] <simplew> BluesKaj: running rarin?
[18:45] <BluesKaj> simplew , yes
[18:47] <simplew> BluesKaj: when you lock the screen and then move the mouse to appear the dialog to unlock, that now has a background image and the dialog is different, that was some done kust in kubuntu or is upstream?
[18:48] <simplew> s/kust/just
[18:49] <BluesKaj> simplew, I have no background after locking the screen, it just black behind the login dialog
[18:50] <BluesKaj> it's
[18:50] <simplew> BluesKaj: so you dont have raring updated
[18:51] <BluesKaj> I haven't dist-upgraded since the last upgrades broke kwin and the panel
[18:52] <BluesKaj> I'm at the point where 35-40 kwin related packages are being held back , I don't dare dist-upgrade again , simplew
[18:54] <BluesKaj> that was yesterday simplew , when kwin broke , I've since reinstalled but will not dist-upgtade until those kwin packages are ready to install
[18:54] <black_> khb
[18:55] <simplew> BluesKaj: i really have no clue about what you say, there were only 3 kinfocenter related packages in conflcit and that was fixed
[18:56] <BluesKaj> ok simplew , hang on I'll pastebin the packages
[18:57] <BluesKaj> simplew, http://pastebin.com/9Cqv7PM3
[18:58] <simplew> BluesKaj: some is wrong with your isntall
[18:59] <BluesKaj> just reinstalled yesterday
[19:00] <simplew> BluesKaj: i also mde a clean isntall yesterday
[19:01] <BluesKaj> well, I installed to / , my /home dir is the same as the prvious
[19:01] <BluesKaj> previous
[19:15] <simplew> BluesKaj: so?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> well, not totally clean , some conf files are left over from the previous install
[19:23] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[21:02] <Qi> Hi everyone - I'm new to KDE and can't seem to find where to disable the bouncing icon when opening a program. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[21:07] <genii-around> Qi:  System Settings -> Application and System Notifications -> Launch Feedback -> Busy Cursor -> No Busy Cursor.
[21:07] <claydoh> Qi: system settings >> System Notification Configuration >> launch feedback
[21:07] <asobi> need help installing 3tb hdd
[21:08]  * genii-around slides claydoh a fresh coffee
[21:08] <Qi> genii-around: claydoh: thank you very much.
[21:09]  * claydoh smiles and sips, has to leave for work shortly :(
[21:10]  * claydoh needs caffeine to help cure the broken sleep cycles
[21:13] <genii-around> asobi: What sort of help? Usually the hd will just get recognised, and then you can partition and format it. Although depending what port you plug into on motherboard ( if internal) it may want to be the first hd and not the second/third/etc
[21:16] <asobi> it's second
[21:16] <asobi> http://administratosphere.wordpress.com/2011/03/29/dos-partitions-fdisk-and-the-2tb-limit/ is helping
[21:33] <Nadis_KDE> kjh
[22:13] <LordCrc> hi, testing 12.10 livecd here, having backlight issues, and i want to try some xorg conf options to see if it works before installing
[22:14] <LordCrc> seems theres no "proper" xorg conf file anymore, so how to do this without rebooting?
[22:17] <designbybeck> Greetings all, I thought I'd give KDE/ Kubuntu 12.10 another go. It seems trying out distros ever other week is my hobby!
[22:17] <designbybeck> I have ran into this problem last time I tried Kubuntu, about a year ago. But I don't remember the solution right off hand. I installed the proprietary NVIDIA drivers, and now all the fonts are REALLY big
[22:23] <genii-around> LordCrc: If you make an xorg.conf file, it will get used. But none exists by default any longer
[22:24] <LordCrc> genii-around: ok so run X -configure or whatever it was, and then restart lightdm or should i kill X or?
[22:24] <genii-around> LordCrc: If you make one with the options you need, drop to a console and restart lightdm or kdm  or whichever your desktop manager is
[22:25] <LordCrc> so long between each time i upgrade i forget all the tweaks i need to do
[22:25] <LordCrc> yeah that was kinda my question, which dm is the kubuntu 12.10 livecd running? :)
[22:26] <LordCrc> guess i can figure out with some google-fu
[22:29] <Guest43600> hi
[22:31] <genii-around> LordCrc: If you do ps aux| grep dm        one of the results will usually be your desktop manager
[22:31] <LordCrc> genii-around: thanks
[22:32] <designbybeck> and where do you change to MMB + ALT for resize window?
[22:35] <LordCrc> designbybeck: its not in the "shortcuts and something" system setting ?
[22:35] <designbybeck> ah yes I found it
[22:35] <designbybeck> under Windows Behaviour LordCrc
[22:35] <LordCrc> designbybeck: ah, well, close second :D
[22:35] <designbybeck> now Super/Meta key for opening the menu?!
[22:36] <LordCrc> like i said, each time i reinstall i spend a week fixing it up, and then dont touch it
[22:36] <LordCrc> and then forget everything till next time
[22:36]  * LordCrc should keep a log
[22:36] <designbybeck> lol Yeah I agree!
[22:36] <designbybeck> I install 1-3 distros a week to play and test
[22:36] <designbybeck> with
[22:36] <designbybeck> but on my main machines 2 work and 2 play/home
[22:37] <designbybeck> I go back and forth between Ubuntu, Kubuntu, LinuxMint Cinnamon and LinuxMint XCFE
[22:38] <designbybeck> LordCrc:  do you just use ALT + F1 to lanch the Kmenu?
[22:39] <LordCrc> designbybeck: i did change it at some point, but ill be darned if i can remember what i did
[22:39] <LordCrc> i have this vague memory of hacking conf files
[22:40] <LordCrc> i did a lot of distro jumping way back
[22:41] <LordCrc> but now i just need things to work, so windows 7 on the main machine, but had kubuntu on my laptop for ages
[22:41] <LordCrc> when its all set up it works very nicely indeed
[22:44] <designbybeck> http://askubuntu.com/questions/177489/how-to-set-keyboard-shortcut-to-meta-in-kubuntu
[22:44] <designbybeck> LordCrc:  ^
[22:44] <designbybeck> well dang, i forgot about Qt not using Metakey
[22:44] <designbybeck> by itself
[22:45] <LordCrc> see this is a perfect example of why i use windows on my desktop :)
[22:53] <LordCrc> ok
[22:53] <LordCrc> hm
[22:53] <LordCrc> ah yes, that was probably what did
[22:53] <designbybeck> ha
[22:53] <LordCrc> acpi_backlight=vendor
[22:53] <designbybeck> no no, you can't do anything with windows
[22:53] <designbybeck> as far as tweaking it
[22:53] <LordCrc> hard to test with a livecd
[22:53] <LordCrc> true, but on windows i dont have to tweak much
[22:54] <LordCrc> just install my apps and be productive
[22:54] <designbybeck> what is your day to day?
[22:54] <LordCrc> programming and games, with your usual media consumption (tv/movies, youtube etc)
[22:55] <LordCrc> obviously games would require windows, but disregarding games, i still prefer win as my primary environment
[22:55] <LordCrc> perhaps its just because there's less surprised
[22:55] <LordCrc> the broken things i know about
[22:55] <LordCrc> also a lot of awesome kde apps are available on windows so ;)
[22:56] <LordCrc> lot of other oss as well
[22:56] <LordCrc> and for the rest, linux runs very smooth in a VM
[22:58] <designbybeck> ah
[22:59] <designbybeck> I've worked in higher Ed for 12+ years now, but it has only been in the past 4 that I've focused on OSS exclusivly for education
[22:59] <LordCrc> i do think kubuntu and similar have come a LONG way, and they're very close
[22:59] <LordCrc> but the "little things", such as my backlight adjustment issue, just totally kills it
[23:00] <designbybeck> I can't justify using proprietary software anymore in education as a public servant, so I've been doing nothing but OSS for the past 4 years, eat, sleep, breath it now
[23:00] <LordCrc> yeah, i can see that
[23:00] <designbybeck> I got to hear Mark Shuttleworth at LinuxCon Europe 2 weeks ago
[23:00] <LordCrc> and once you get everything sorted you can just clone the thing and off you g
[23:00] <LordCrc> go
[23:01] <designbybeck> I really think with the movement of more and more big key players moving to OSS first, that we'll see more of it....those driver issues, go away more quickly
[23:01] <designbybeck> yeah, I've been working on a custom distro for our university as well
[23:01] <LordCrc> the current trend towards tablets and such may actually help that
[23:03] <designbybeck> very true
[23:03] <designbybeck> well and like things like Unity 3D and Steam coming to Linux will help as well!
[23:05] <LordCrc> yeah, steam will be big, if they get it working smoothly
[23:06] <designbybeck> they've got 5000 beta Linux users right now I think they said
[23:06] <LordCrc> nice
[23:06] <LordCrc> will they be running a custom distro or? (havent had time to track it that)
[23:07] <designbybeck> no, mostly stock Ubuntu from what I gather
[23:07] <LordCrc> ah, so if you venture off the beaten path, you're on your own then i guess :)
[23:07] <designbybeck> well 'buntu as NVIDIA has worked with Steam and the likes to get things running smooth
[23:08] <LordCrc> well, if steam does make its "steam box", and nvidia has the best drivers...
[23:08] <LordCrc> perhaps i should just install arch... i seem to always find my answers there :P
[23:10] <LordCrc> anyway, will take another look at 12.10 next weekend... so much to like
[23:16] <Chakotay> I just installed 12.10 64  bit on my PC. I am dual booting with Windows 7. After I installed, I tried to startup, and I keep getting this message... error:  no such device: 6500b52d-917b-4ce7-be82-886a0d767705. grub rescue> I thought it may have been a bad install, so I reinstalled from a USB drive this time. I'm getting the same message. Can anyone help with this?
[23:24] <LordCrc> Chakotay_: out of my league, but if no-one is alive here, try ubuntu and just pretend you install that instead of kubuntu
[23:25] <designbybeck> Chakotay_: have you tried a new USB and download?
[23:25] <designbybeck> maybe the ISO burned incorrectly?
[23:25] <Chakotay_> LordCrc: Thanks
[23:26] <Chakotay_> designbybeck: I burnt it to a CD and tried from a USB
[23:26] <designbybeck> did you do a md5 checksum?
[23:27] <designbybeck> i had a bad USB that i fixed, but then the ISO was messed up... so I had to download again
[23:27] <Chakotay_> designbybeck: i did not do an md5 checksum
[23:28] <designbybeck> i normally don't either, was just thinking it might could be a bad ISO
[23:28] <Chakotay_> designbybeck: I will try downloading again.. Thanks
[23:28] <designbybeck> sorry that is all i can suggest
[23:28] <designbybeck> but yes like LordCrc said, you might ask in Ubuntu
[23:28] <Chakotay_> designbybeck: I appreciate you giving me the idea. I will give it a shot
[23:28] <designbybeck> no prob, pay it forward
[23:29] <Chakotay_> designbybeck: I definitely will
[23:31] <LordCrc> ah yea, i had a bad livecd download once as well
[23:31] <LordCrc> good call
[23:33] <Catbuntu> Hi
[23:34] <designbybeck> hello Catbuntu
[23:34] <Catbuntu> Hey
[23:37] <designbybeck> anyone know a keystroke, or quick way to move active windows to other dkestops in Kubuntu?... Ubuntu is CTRL + ALT+SHIFT+ Arrow keyes
[23:37] <Catbuntu> I thought it was the same.
[23:38] <designbybeck> not working for me Catbuntu can you confirm?
[23:38] <genii-around> I usually just do right-click on titlebar ...Move to Desktop...
[23:39] <Catbuntu> I'm not on KDE now, sorry :_
[23:39] <designbybeck> ah
[23:39] <designbybeck> that's a lil' slow for me genii-around
[23:39] <Catbuntu> Try CTRL Shift Arrow or Ctrl Alt Arrow
[23:39] <designbybeck> I like my keyboard shortcuts
[23:39] <Catbuntu> I think it was something like that...
[23:39] <designbybeck> nope those didn't work either Catbuntu
[23:40] <Catbuntu> Remember that you have to press the down arrow.
[23:40] <Catbuntu> By default there's only a column with two rows.
[23:40] <designbybeck> i found out that Meta + Alt and arrows changes window focus
[23:41] <Catbuntu> The shortcurs are somewhere around the system preferences.
[23:41] <Catbuntu> I think...
[23:41] <designbybeck> playing with Kubuntu again makes me want to install it on my Laptop now!.... I have Ubuntu 12.10 on it as well as my netbook
[23:41] <designbybeck> KDE is so 'purdy!
[23:41] <designbybeck> clean clear and crisp!
[23:42] <designbybeck> Guess it is Qt making it that sleek looking
[23:42] <Catbuntu> I'm doing a quad-boot with Ubuntu 12.04, Xubuntu 12.10 (XFCE is lovely), Kubuntu 12.10 and... winblobs.
[23:42] <Catbuntu> But Kubuntu is by far the best distro for me.
[23:43] <Catbuntu> I didn't like KDE on other distros...
[23:43] <xixor> designbybeck: You have to set your own keystroke.  Go to system settings->ShortCuts And Gestures->Global Keyboard Shorcuts, select "Kwin" from the drop down list, assign your own keystroke to "Window to Desktop N"
[23:44] <xixor> designbybeck: i..e cntrl+shift+1 to "Window to Desktop 1", or maybe cntrl+shift+right for "Window One Desktop to the Right".  every keystroke in KDE is easily customizable, and there are hundreds that aren't assigned keystrokes by default
[23:45] <designbybeck> ah! thank you xixor
[23:46] <xixor> designbybeck: a common complaint about KDE is that it is "too configurable".  Which is rubbish.  But pretty much every aspect of window behaviour/actions/keystrokes can be configured
[23:47] <designbybeck> That worked xixor
[23:47] <designbybeck> I agree! I've always thought that myself! I wish they had a basic mode, for basic users! It scares me to give it to newbies!... that is what I like about Ubuntu Unity
[23:48] <xixor> The default configuration should be fine for any novice user.  There is nothing difficult about it, and it is setup nearly identical to any dozen of different desktop environments, with similar keystrokes that you would find in any of them
[23:50] <xixor> I setup a few keystrokes on any new KDE installation: Windows Key+E: launch dolphin, Windows Key+C: launch google chrome, Windows Key+T: launch konsole, Windows Key +S: Launch system settings, Windows Key+P: launch Muon 'P'ackage manager
[23:52] <designbybeck> I'll have to do that as well xixor
[23:53] <designbybeck> although I just installed this version of Kubuntu 12.10 on my box that had LinuxMint Cinnamon on it, and it saw that partiion on the Kubuntu install and let me split the harddrive, but on my laptop that had Ubuntu installed on it, the same Kubuntu USB install, doesn't see that Ubuntu is installed, so I can split the install??
[23:53] <designbybeck> any ideas on that one xixor ?
[23:57] <xixor> I'm not sure