=== Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [03:50] Hi all. [03:50] Squirm, *wave* [04:18] morning y'all [04:19] superfly maybe, but i think that the market is a bit flat at the moment [04:23] magespawn, Hiya [04:24] My comp rebooted itself randomly. [04:24] It's done it once before (I may have told you), and it made a weird beep noise in the headphones when it did [04:24] This time, there was no noise [04:24] I did a syslog and got this: [04:24] http://slexy.org/view/s213ogFaQB [04:24] At the bottom, it talks about the ethernet card failing or something. [04:25] I briefly disconnected the internet a few days back to test something, and then in order to put it back on, I had to set it to 'auto detect', which I don't think it was on before. [04:33] will check it out [04:34] I've long thought that maybe my ethernet card is what's causing the freezing somehow. I've always been online, even when using my music and art programs, and stuff, so. Ugh, I don't know. Nothing else is wrong. :| Stupid hardware. [04:37] is it the onboard lan card? [04:37] Yeah. [04:37] It's a realtek [04:38] Other people have written having freezing issues and that their realtek had that same error that mine is showing [04:38] Well, one other person. He wasn't using Ubuntu, but he described essentially the same problem [04:38] * TaraLS googled. [04:41] then get yourself an add on lan card, see if that solves the problem [04:42] Can I get any card, as long as it fits the motherboard? [04:42] yes [04:42] how old is the mb? [04:42] I dunno. How do I find that out? [04:43] Oh. The motherboard booklet says E4734 Third Edition V3, April 2009 [04:44] not serious, you can google the mb model name and they will tell what slots the board has and therefore what card typw to get [04:44] if you let the pc shop know that they can get you the right card [04:44] Okay. [04:45] they are usually quite cheap [04:46] this might sound a bit strange, but how/where do you get that info you posted? [04:49] magespawn, The stuff Ishowed you on slexy just now? [04:50] yes [04:50] I got it by typing in terminal: cat /var/log/syslog [04:50] ty [04:50] Right where it shows the interwebs fail error is where my comp rebooted, pretty much. [04:50] How come? [04:51] still learning linux [04:51] Ahh, alrighty [04:52] there should also be away to get to send out just the info you, if memory serves, but not sure how [04:52] want^ [04:52] all comes up in the terminal [04:52] ? [04:52] But that's the thing. I don't know what info I want, short of just wanting it to show me what, if any, errors happened during the time of the freeze/reboot [04:53] Yeah. [04:53] you can also send that directly to a text file, again not sure how [04:55] maybe like this ' cat /var/log/syslog grep | 'filename'' but do not use that until we confirm that [04:55] morning all [04:55] without the quotes [04:56] morning Kilosm [04:58] Hiyo [05:02] did some reading look like it should be "cat /var/log/syslog | grep 'filename' " [05:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles [05:05] I dunno what to put in 'filename' though [05:05] That's only good for someone who knows what he/she wants to look for [05:06] Who is Kilosm? [05:06] me on maverick [05:06] 10.10 [05:06] Ohh [05:06] Okay. [05:06] Kilosm, My comp hasn't frozen since I removed and put back the CPU (though I haven't really loaded it with any streaming video or anything), but it rebooted itself just before. [05:06] Out of nowhere. [05:07] no the file name is whatever you want to call it, you could say 'filename' as 'syslog25/11/12' for example [05:07] once only [05:07] No. It was the one time where it made the beep, and then about.... twoish hours ago or whatever, maybe not even, it rebooted itself again. [05:07] Without a sound, and without freezin [05:07] g [05:08] ai [05:08] http://slexy.org/view/s213ogFaQB <-- Line 233 [05:08] also if you do have an idea of what you are looking for you cannthe following [05:09] did you get that thingie that shows all the voltages on the mb [05:09] No. What thing? [05:09] gives little icons somewhere [05:09] Also, WIne doesn't even support lexmark or genius, so it's useless to me, but thanks for it anyway. [05:10] grep sshd /var/log/auth.log | less [05:10] im on other pc now but gave them to you in mxit i think [05:10] was more tools to see voltages [05:10] Should I put that in terminal, magespawn ? [05:10] from psu in i think [05:10] Kilosm, I did what it told me to do, and then pasted the results to you in slexy, I believe. [05:10] after that one [05:10] a better one [05:11] I dunno, Kilos. Maybe I didn't get it. I guess you'll have to send it again. [05:11] when i get back to that pc [05:11] kk [05:11] that command sshd give info about sshd log in attempts from the auth log, the less command is what gets only that info [05:11] busy try to fix kde [05:11] magespawn, dont use boot-repair near kde [05:12] not good? [05:12] its a gnome friendly tool [05:12] ahh [05:12] my kde is totally gone [05:12] mbr and all [05:13] got 80 GB unallocated space but cant partition or anything [05:13] ouch [05:14] TaraLS: line 233? [05:14] magespawn, What are you asking? [05:15] is that the line that you think says the lan card has failed? [05:15] Not the card itself. That says that the connection failed or something. [05:15] I'm just saying... Maybe the freezing has to do with the stupid card itself. [05:16] And I just saw, lines 181/182. Whassat meaaan? [05:16] maybe but that line means it could not get an ip version 6 network address [05:16] most isp's are still using ip version4 [05:16] Line 113... [05:17] Well, I dunno. I just know that my comp rebooted right around that the 46th minute mark [05:19] 181/182 are referining to dns but what exactly i am not sure [05:19] now 113 looks promising but have no idea what it means [05:20] serious refs that [05:20] * magespawn goes to google [05:20] Yeah... [05:20] lol [05:20] Google for the win. [05:20] referining [05:20] hehe [05:20] you tired kiddo? [05:20] Nope. [05:20] I mean, a tiny bit. But I'm fine. [05:23] oh btw im sure moms pc will take ubuntu with more ram in but those ddr cards are getting scarce and hard to come by no [05:23] Ah well. [05:23] Mom's PC doesn't need Ubuntu. It's Windows works fine. [05:23] Annoyingly. [05:23] lol [05:24] oh magespawn btw too [05:24] Its* [05:24] those other mbr tools are all microstinks stuff and small enough to work from floppy [05:25] and i dont have ms to use them with but still got a floppy going [05:26] ty guys late night early morning and amtouch screen, those are my excuses and i am stcking with them [05:27] you falling asleep? [05:27] sorry for bugging you [05:28] no just got up [05:28] o/ [05:29] hi nlsthzn [05:29] how are you uncle Kilosm [05:29] ? [05:29] hey nlsthzn [05:29] hows things in ahab land [05:29] im good ty [05:29] good good :) weather is very nice [05:29] alo magespawn ? How are you? [05:30] here too, weve had lotsa rain for a change [05:30] sort of awake, and you? [05:30] 33mm 60mm and 38mm in three days [05:30] christmas [05:32] Kilosm: can you remember who was talking about getting stickers made? [05:32] queery and some gauteng peeps methinks [05:34] Maaz tell queery http://www.stickermule.com/?utm_campaign=Carbon_August_12&utm_medium=Banner&utm_source=Carbon [05:34] magespawn: Righto, I'll tell Queery on freenode [05:35] not sure how the costing will wwork out on that though since it is usa based [05:36] Kilosm, Hey, Hardware Sensors Detector shows a ton of voltages [05:36] They're just not labelled what for [05:36] eish postage costs nowadays [05:36] Oh. atk0110-acpi-0 [05:36] yeah those 1.3 and 5.something are the ones to watch [05:37] Vcore Voltage, +3.3 voltage, +5 volate, +12 Voltage [05:37] hover over each icon [05:37] aw unity dropped that function [05:37] ya all of them they are from psu to pc [05:37] Oh... [05:37] If I'm understanding this correctly... [05:37] they say free delivery but maybe only in the states [05:38] The +5 means it can take more than, or that's its maximum? [05:38] oi magespawn [05:38] no [05:38] + = positive [05:38] I know what a + means. But what's it meaning in this instance? [05:38] Positive what? [05:38] positive not negative voltage [05:39] ....Well, yeah, Kilos. What's that MEAN? [05:39] like a car battery uses earth and +12 [05:39] some things use - voltages too [05:40] like =12v and -12 with earth in between [05:40] +12v [05:40] Okay. [05:40] So. [05:40] The voltages say [05:40] For instance [05:40] The one that say +5 Voltage [05:40] It's going at a rate of 5.09 [05:40] Does that matter? [05:40] nope thats good [05:40] when it drops its struggling [05:41] Okay... [05:41] like 4.5 will switch off [05:41] How do you know that the +5 one is the power one specifically? [05:41] What if it stays above 5, but the +3 one drops below 3? [05:41] Like... yeah. [05:41] or 4.8 maybe [05:41] its all those TaraLS [05:42] they are all from psu to mb [05:42] shows state of psu [05:43] What does "from psu to mb" mean? [05:43] a little variation on either side of the target voltage is okay [05:43] when they start struggling then they give less than a new one and crash quicker [05:43] "less than a new one" what? [05:43] from power supply unit to the motherboard [05:43] that big plug from the power supply to the motherboard [05:44] new power supply [05:44] magespawn, I know what it means. But like... [05:44] hehe fast on that thing hey [05:44] Oh well. [05:44] It's not worth it lol [05:44] Kilosm, Ah okay [05:44] * magespawn on a differnet page [05:44] that one link says as they age they lose power [05:45] Okay but [05:45] we actually got a shop here that sells them cheaper than there by you [05:45] R190 for 400w [05:45] Would power failures cause freezing and rebooting at intermittent times, or would it be consistent? [05:45] yip [05:46] Yip what [05:46] power is a funny thing [05:46] It's annoying [05:46] Very damn annoying [05:46] yip it will cause probs [05:46] I know it will cause probs [05:46] Okay [05:46] Shh [05:46] No more PC talk lol [05:46] pc voltages are critical [05:46] * TaraLS drops out of the conversation. [05:47] lol [05:49] magespawn, hows your guys there handling the rhino poaching [05:49] KILL THEM ALL [05:49] The poachers, I mean. [05:49] over 400 this years already [05:50] 9 on one private game farm [05:50] but they think the farmer is invloved too for insurance purposes [05:51] kzn is getting hit but not as bad as others yet [05:52] kruger has even bought a microlite to watch for them and have a coupla choppers on standby all the time [05:52] i was involved in a project for a spotter plane, really a fixed wing microlight [05:54] http://www.savetherhino.org/africa_programmes/hluhluwe-imfolozi_park_south_africa/eyes_in_the_skies [05:54] evil stupid chinks [05:54] was helping to build the hanger and raise various other funds [05:55] great [05:55] someone should tell the chinks about viagra [05:55] cheaper then rhino horn [05:55] than [06:11] oh my net splits again [06:13] wb nlsthzn you first back after net split [06:13] ah did the internets implode again [06:14] yeah [06:14] weird though you and tara and drubin and chanserv and few more here [06:15] and psydroid [06:15] so all over the world through that place [06:15] but me and magespawn are too strong [06:16] wb ChanServ [06:16] stupid thing cant even say ty [06:16] the force is strong in this one [06:16] lol [06:19] wb psydroid [06:20] wb confluency [06:21] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/1999/detail/ [06:21] is this the only info for the joburg release party? [06:21] sec me looks [06:21] wb nuvolari [06:22] eish nlsthzn no feedback from nico yet [06:22] grrr [06:22] mail him [06:23] all I need is some link, perhaps photo's etc... [06:23] the durban peeps have a blog post by maia and also photos on g+ [06:23] good [06:26] gotta go get ready for work, later all. [06:26] nlsthzn, can you mail nico michael and tell him you do whatever it is you do and need feedback? [06:26] go well magespawn [06:26] Kilosm, if you have his mail address pm it to me pls [06:27] lemme look. i on maverick here [06:30] wb TaraLS [06:30] wb Everybody lol [06:30] the net is restored... [06:30] nope sorry nlsthzn ive never mailed him [06:31] i think maia will have it if im not mistook [06:31] think he got cds sometime [06:31] or will look for his next complaint mail [06:31] no worries... will ask again later when more peeps (and/or other peeps) are online [06:32] lol [06:32] I can also check the mailing list [06:32] hehe [06:32] he is a funny one [06:32] oh ya [06:33] got it [06:33] was to ez [06:33] hehe [06:40] nlsthzn, queery was also there i think [06:40] thump him too [06:40] morning ubuntu-za [06:42] hiya zeref [06:47] k uncle Kilosm ... will wait and see if I get answer from nico first [06:47] * nlsthzn forgets it is Sunday which isn [06:47] isn't monday for everyone [06:49] oh ya [06:50] you can tell maaz to shake queery [06:50] but nico never comes here [06:50] scared someone bombs him [06:51] Maaz, tell queery nlsthzn is waiting for feedback from release parties [06:51] Kilosm: Sure, I'll tell Queery on freenode [07:15] $79 per half hour, this one PC place. [07:15] Bloody hell. I hate the world. [07:16] whew they dont play [07:17] Maaz, convert 79 AUD to ZAR [07:17] Kilosm: I'm not feeling too well [07:17] hmm [07:18] mazz conver 79aud to zar [07:18] eh [07:18] maaz convert 79aud to zar [07:18] TaraLS: I can't do that: Unknown unit 'aud' [07:18] maaz convert 79au to zar [07:18] TaraLS: I can't do that: Unknown unit 'zar' [07:18] maaz convert 79au to rand [07:18] TaraLS: I don't think 79 au can be converted to rand [07:18] Uh, whatever [07:18] * TaraLS googles. [07:18] Maaz, convert 79 AUD ZAR [07:18] Kilosm: *blink* [07:19] 734 rand [07:19] ya i just forgot the correct way to do it [07:19] ouch [07:20] hi mazal [07:20] Morning everyone [07:20] Hello [07:21] How are you TaraLS and Kilosm ? [07:21] Depressed. [07:22] But what's new. [07:22] ok ty mazal [07:22] This one computer repair place nearby will charge 734rand every HALF hour for computer repair [07:22] That's crazy === Kilosm is now known as Kilos [07:25] bloody bot stubborn today [07:25] oops [07:25] wrong channel [07:27] I have a strange question this morning [07:27] lets hear [07:28] I need to use up some data. What is some nice apps or things I can download ? [07:29] look if you can find the ubuntu book [07:30] The ubuntu Book [07:30] * mazal makes notes [07:30] must be many megs there [07:31] Seeing as I don't know after tomorrow if I will be able to use the pc and with Friday last day of the month I don't want to waste data that is left [07:31] Toodles. I'm off to go lose my mind. [07:31] toods [07:31] what mind? [07:31] Bye TaraLS , good luck [07:32] lol [07:32] I already have the newest parted magic , redo and clonezilla [07:32] Trying to think of other handy stuff [07:33] oh ya [07:33] UBCD [07:33] What be that Kilos ? [07:33] handy tools for bad pcs if you can follow it [07:33] or understand it [07:34] For Windoze machines ?> [07:34] Maaz, google UBCD download [07:34] Kilos: "Ultimate Boot CD - Download the UBCD" http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html :: "Ultimate Boot CD - Overview" http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ :: "|MG| Ultimate Boot CD (UBCD) 5.1.1 Download" http://majorgeeks.com/Ultimate_Boot_CD_d4981.html :: "Ultimate Boot CD ubcd 5.1.1 full download" http://www.mrbass.org/ubcd/ :: "Download Ultimate Boot CD 5.1.1 [07:34] Free - Run flerver are just a few of ..." http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Back-Up-and-Re… [07:34] all machines [07:34] Oooh , I have heard about that one [07:34] http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html [07:35] Never used or seen it though [07:35] also http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ [07:40] i dunno if they have a user guide or manual for it [07:40] you gotta think some to work it [07:42] try this mazal for the book [07:42] informit.com/safarifree [07:43] ta [07:43] hope it works [07:43] maybe some of the other guys will get it if it works [07:47] I wish I could get a cloning app that works with my m/board [07:58] what you wanna clone mazal [07:58] UBCD can clone drives [07:59] My HDD Kilos [07:59] UBCD [07:59] Since I got my new pc none of the apps mos see my HDD [07:59] What app does it use for cloning ? [07:59] or that dd command the fly says stay away from [07:59] ? [07:59] dd not an option , drive is to big [08:00] Will take forever and don't have such huge destination [08:00] you wanna clone to a smaller drive? [08:00] eeek [08:01] To an image file , like I always did [08:01] But the stupid software don't work with my new m/board [08:01] ai [08:02] someone once told me how to make an iso of your running drive [08:02] whew [08:02] try remastersys [08:06] I already use remastersys mos [08:06] But that's an installable iso [08:06] I want an image as well [08:07] I'm gonna go read and see if I can find what UBCD use for cloning [08:07] to do what with [08:07] If it's partclone it won't work [08:07] get ubcd man [08:08] youll most likely understand all its apps than i do [08:10] its 300.5 megs [08:10] I see it has 5 different ones [08:10] 3 of which I already tried [08:10] Gonna read some more on the other 2 [08:17] Oh boy , the one is in German hehehe [08:18] Ek verstaan nie german nie lol [08:19] ai [08:20] Gaan hom download en sien [08:20] 2 van hulle lyk belowend [09:04] If some of the clever people has any ideas - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2087963 [09:05] hehe theyll only be here tonight nlsthzn [09:05] :) ok [09:12] Wow , not found has answered me a few times there , didn't even know he's one of us SA guys :) [09:12] lol hes been here a long time [09:12] before me hey nlsthzn ? [09:36] hi [09:41]