[03:50] <TaraLS> Hi all.
[03:50] <TaraLS> Squirm,  *wave*
[04:18] <magespawn> morning y'all
[04:19] <magespawn> superfly maybe, but i think that the market is a bit flat at the moment
[04:23] <TaraLS> magespawn, Hiya
[04:24] <TaraLS> My comp rebooted itself randomly.
[04:24] <TaraLS> It's done it once before (I may have told you), and it made a weird beep noise in the headphones when it did
[04:24] <TaraLS> This time, there was no noise
[04:24] <TaraLS> I did a syslog and got this: 
[04:24] <TaraLS> http://slexy.org/view/s213ogFaQB
[04:24] <TaraLS> At the bottom, it talks about the ethernet card failing or something.
[04:25] <TaraLS> I briefly disconnected the internet a few days back to test something, and then in order to put it back on, I had to set it to 'auto detect', which I don't think it was on before.
[04:33] <magespawn> will check it out
[04:34] <TaraLS> I've long thought that maybe my ethernet card is what's causing the freezing somehow. I've always been online, even when using my music and art programs, and stuff, so. Ugh, I don't know. Nothing else is wrong. :| Stupid hardware.
[04:37] <magespawn> is it the onboard lan card?
[04:37] <TaraLS> Yeah.
[04:37] <TaraLS> It's a realtek
[04:38] <TaraLS> Other people have written having freezing issues and that their realtek had that same error that mine is showing
[04:38] <TaraLS> Well, one other person. He wasn't using Ubuntu, but he described essentially the same problem
[04:38]  * TaraLS googled.
[04:41] <magespawn> then get yourself an add on lan card, see if that solves the problem
[04:42] <TaraLS> Can I get any card, as long as it fits the motherboard?
[04:42] <magespawn> yes
[04:42] <magespawn>  how old is the mb?
[04:42] <TaraLS> I dunno. How do I find that out?
[04:43] <TaraLS> Oh. The motherboard booklet says E4734 Third Edition V3, April 2009
[04:44] <magespawn> not serious, you can google the mb model name and they will tell what slots the board has and therefore what card typw to get
[04:44] <magespawn> if you let the pc shop know that they can get you the right card
[04:44] <TaraLS> Okay.
[04:45] <magespawn> they are usually quite cheap
[04:46] <magespawn> this might sound a bit strange, but how/where do you get that info you posted?
[04:49] <TaraLS> magespawn,  The stuff Ishowed you on slexy just now?
[04:50] <magespawn> yes
[04:50] <TaraLS> I got it by typing in terminal: cat /var/log/syslog
[04:50] <magespawn> ty
[04:50] <TaraLS> Right where it shows the interwebs fail error is where my comp rebooted, pretty much.
[04:50] <TaraLS> How come?
[04:51] <magespawn> still learning linux
[04:51] <TaraLS> Ahh, alrighty
[04:52] <magespawn> there should also be away to get to send out just the info you, if memory serves, but not sure how
[04:52] <magespawn> want^
[04:52] <magespawn> all comes up in the terminal
[04:52] <magespawn> ?
[04:52] <TaraLS> But that's the thing. I don't know what info I want, short of just wanting it to show me what, if any, errors happened during the time of the freeze/reboot
[04:53] <TaraLS> Yeah.
[04:53] <magespawn> you can also send that directly to a text file, again not sure how
[04:55] <magespawn> maybe like this ' cat /var/log/syslog grep | 'filename'' but do not use that until we confirm that
[04:55] <Kilosm> morning all
[04:55] <magespawn> without the quotes
[04:56] <magespawn> morning Kilosm
[04:58] <TaraLS> Hiyo
[05:02] <magespawn> did some reading look like it should be "cat /var/log/syslog | grep 'filename' "
[05:03] <magespawn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[05:05] <TaraLS> I dunno what to put in 'filename' though
[05:05] <TaraLS> That's only good for someone who knows what he/she wants to look for
[05:06] <TaraLS> Who is Kilosm?
[05:06] <Kilosm> me on maverick
[05:06] <Kilosm> 10.10
[05:06] <TaraLS> Ohh
[05:06] <TaraLS> Okay.
[05:06] <TaraLS> Kilosm, My comp hasn't frozen since I removed and put back the CPU (though I haven't really loaded it with any streaming video or anything), but it rebooted itself just before.
[05:06] <TaraLS> Out of nowhere.
[05:07] <magespawn> no the file name is whatever you want to call it, you could say 'filename' as 'syslog25/11/12' for example
[05:07] <Kilosm> once only
[05:07] <TaraLS> No. It was the one time where it made the beep, and then about.... twoish hours ago or whatever, maybe not even, it rebooted itself again.
[05:07] <TaraLS> Without a sound, and without freezin
[05:07] <TaraLS> g
[05:08] <Kilosm> ai
[05:08] <TaraLS> http://slexy.org/view/s213ogFaQB <-- Line 233
[05:08] <magespawn> also if you do have an idea of what you are looking for you cannthe following
[05:09] <Kilosm> did you get that thingie that shows all the voltages on the mb
[05:09] <TaraLS> No. What thing?
[05:09] <Kilosm> gives little icons somewhere
[05:09] <TaraLS> Also, WIne doesn't even support lexmark or genius, so it's useless to me, but thanks for it anyway.
[05:10] <magespawn> grep sshd /var/log/auth.log | less  
[05:10] <Kilosm> im on other pc now but gave them to you in mxit i think
[05:10] <Kilosm> was more tools to see voltages
[05:10] <TaraLS> Should I put that in terminal, magespawn ?
[05:10] <Kilosm> from psu in i think
[05:10] <TaraLS> Kilosm,  I did what it told me to do, and then pasted the results to you in slexy, I believe.
[05:10] <Kilosm> after that one
[05:10] <Kilosm> a better one
[05:11] <TaraLS> I dunno, Kilos. Maybe I didn't get it. I guess you'll have to send it again.
[05:11] <Kilosm> when i get back to that pc
[05:11] <TaraLS> kk
[05:11] <magespawn> that command sshd give info about sshd log in attempts from the auth log, the less command is what gets only that info
[05:11] <Kilosm> busy try to fix kde
[05:11] <Kilosm> magespawn, dont use boot-repair near kde
[05:12] <magespawn> not good?
[05:12] <Kilosm> its a gnome friendly tool
[05:12] <magespawn> ahh
[05:12] <Kilosm> my kde is totally gone
[05:12] <Kilosm> mbr and all
[05:13] <Kilosm> got 80 GB unallocated space but cant partition or anything
[05:13] <magespawn> ouch
[05:14] <magespawn> TaraLS: line 233?
[05:14] <TaraLS> magespawn,  What are you asking?
[05:15] <magespawn> is that the line that you think says the lan card has failed?
[05:15] <TaraLS> Not the card itself. That says that the connection failed or something.
[05:15] <TaraLS> I'm just saying... Maybe the freezing has to do with the stupid card itself.
[05:16] <TaraLS> And I just saw, lines 181/182. Whassat meaaan?
[05:16] <magespawn> maybe but that line means it could not get an ip version 6 network address
[05:16] <magespawn> most isp's are still using ip version4
[05:16] <TaraLS> Line 113...
[05:17] <TaraLS> Well, I dunno. I just know that my comp rebooted right around that the 46th minute mark
[05:19] <magespawn> 181/182 are referining to dns but what exactly i am not sure
[05:19] <magespawn> now 113 looks promising but have no idea what it means
[05:20] <Kilosm> serious refs that
[05:20]  * magespawn goes to google
[05:20] <TaraLS> Yeah...
[05:20] <TaraLS> lol
[05:20] <TaraLS> Google for the win.
[05:20] <Kilosm> referining
[05:20] <Kilosm> hehe
[05:20] <Kilosm> you tired kiddo?
[05:20] <TaraLS> Nope.
[05:20] <TaraLS> I mean, a tiny bit. But I'm fine.
[05:23] <Kilosm> oh btw im sure moms pc will take ubuntu with more ram in but those ddr cards are getting scarce and hard to come by no
[05:23] <TaraLS> Ah well. 
[05:23] <TaraLS> Mom's PC doesn't need Ubuntu. It's Windows works fine.
[05:23] <TaraLS> Annoyingly.
[05:23] <Kilosm> lol
[05:24] <Kilosm> oh magespawn btw too
[05:24] <TaraLS> Its*
[05:24] <Kilosm> those other mbr tools are all microstinks stuff and small enough to work from floppy
[05:25] <Kilosm> and i dont have ms to use them with but still got a floppy going
[05:26] <magespawn> ty guys late night early morning and amtouch screen, those are my excuses and i am stcking with them
[05:27] <Kilosm> you falling asleep?
[05:27] <Kilosm> sorry for bugging you
[05:28] <magespawn> no just got up
[05:28] <nlsthzn> o/
[05:29] <Kilosm> hi nlsthzn 
[05:29] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilosm 
[05:29] <nlsthzn> ?
[05:29] <magespawn> hey nlsthzn 
[05:29] <Kilosm> hows things in ahab land
[05:29] <Kilosm> im good ty
[05:29] <nlsthzn> good good :) weather is very nice
[05:29] <nlsthzn> alo magespawn ? How are you?
[05:30] <Kilosm> here too, weve had lotsa rain for a change
[05:30] <magespawn> sort of awake, and you?
[05:30] <Kilosm> 33mm 60mm and 38mm in three days
[05:30] <Kilosm> christmas
[05:32] <magespawn> Kilosm: can you remember who was talking about getting stickers made?
[05:32] <Kilosm> queery and some gauteng peeps methinks
[05:34] <magespawn> Maaz tell queery http://www.stickermule.com/?utm_campaign=Carbon_August_12&utm_medium=Banner&utm_source=Carbon
[05:34] <Maaz> magespawn: Righto, I'll tell Queery on freenode
[05:35] <magespawn> not sure how the costing will wwork out on that though since it is usa based
[05:36] <TaraLS> Kilosm,  Hey, Hardware Sensors Detector shows a ton of voltages
[05:36] <TaraLS> They're just not labelled what for
[05:36] <Kilosm> eish postage costs nowadays
[05:36] <TaraLS> Oh. atk0110-acpi-0
[05:36] <Kilosm> yeah those 1.3 and 5.something are the ones to watch
[05:37] <TaraLS> Vcore Voltage, +3.3 voltage, +5 volate, +12 Voltage
[05:37] <Kilosm> hover over each icon
[05:37] <Kilosm> aw unity dropped that function
[05:37] <Kilosm> ya all of them they are from psu to pc
[05:37] <TaraLS> Oh...
[05:37] <TaraLS> If I'm understanding this correctly...
[05:37] <magespawn> they say free delivery but maybe only in the states
[05:38] <TaraLS> The +5 means it can take more than, or that's its maximum?
[05:38] <Kilosm> oi magespawn 
[05:38] <Kilosm> no
[05:38] <Kilosm> + = positive
[05:38] <TaraLS> I know what a + means. But what's it meaning in this instance?
[05:38] <TaraLS> Positive what?
[05:38] <Kilosm> positive not negative voltage
[05:39] <TaraLS> ....Well, yeah, Kilos. What's that MEAN?
[05:39] <Kilosm> like a car battery uses earth and +12
[05:39] <Kilosm> some things use - voltages too
[05:40] <Kilosm> like =12v and -12 with earth in between
[05:40] <Kilosm> +12v
[05:40] <TaraLS> Okay.
[05:40] <TaraLS> So.
[05:40] <TaraLS> The voltages say
[05:40] <TaraLS> For instance
[05:40] <TaraLS> The one that say +5 Voltage
[05:40] <TaraLS> It's going at a rate of 5.09
[05:40] <TaraLS> Does that matter?
[05:40] <Kilosm> nope thats good
[05:40] <Kilosm> when it drops its struggling
[05:41] <TaraLS> Okay...
[05:41] <Kilosm> like 4.5 will switch off
[05:41] <TaraLS> How do you know that the +5 one is the power one specifically?
[05:41] <TaraLS> What if it stays above 5, but the +3 one drops below 3?
[05:41] <TaraLS> Like... yeah.
[05:41] <Kilosm> or 4.8 maybe
[05:41] <Kilosm> its all those TaraLS 
[05:42] <Kilosm> they are all from psu to mb
[05:42] <Kilosm> shows state of psu
[05:43] <TaraLS> What does "from psu to mb" mean?
[05:43] <magespawn> a little variation on either side of the target voltage is okay
[05:43] <Kilosm> when they start struggling then they give less than a new one and crash quicker
[05:43] <TaraLS> "less than a new one" what?
[05:43] <magespawn> from power supply unit to the motherboard
[05:43] <Kilosm> that big plug from the power supply to the motherboard
[05:44] <magespawn> new power supply
[05:44] <TaraLS> magespawn,  I know what it means. But like...
[05:44] <Kilosm> hehe fast on that thing hey
[05:44] <TaraLS> Oh well.
[05:44] <TaraLS> It's not worth it lol
[05:44] <TaraLS> Kilosm,  Ah okay
[05:44]  * magespawn on a differnet page
[05:44] <Kilosm> that one link says as they age they lose power
[05:45] <TaraLS> Okay but
[05:45] <Kilosm> we actually got a shop here that sells them cheaper than there by you
[05:45] <Kilosm> R190 for 400w
[05:45] <TaraLS> Would power failures cause freezing and rebooting at intermittent times, or would it be consistent?
[05:45] <Kilosm> yip
[05:46] <TaraLS> Yip what
[05:46] <Kilosm> power is a funny thing
[05:46] <TaraLS> It's annoying
[05:46] <TaraLS> Very damn annoying
[05:46] <Kilosm> yip it will cause probs
[05:46] <TaraLS> I know it will cause probs
[05:46] <TaraLS> Okay
[05:46] <TaraLS> Shh
[05:46] <TaraLS> No more PC talk lol
[05:46] <Kilosm> pc voltages are critical
[05:46]  * TaraLS drops out of the conversation.
[05:47] <magespawn> lol
[05:49] <Kilosm> magespawn, hows your guys there handling the rhino poaching
[05:49] <TaraLS> KILL THEM ALL
[05:49] <TaraLS> The poachers, I mean.
[05:49] <Kilosm> over 400 this years already
[05:50] <Kilosm> 9 on one private game farm
[05:50] <Kilosm> but they think the farmer is invloved too for insurance purposes
[05:51] <magespawn> kzn is getting hit but not as bad as others yet
[05:52] <Kilosm> kruger has even bought a microlite to watch for them and have a coupla choppers on standby all the time
[05:52] <magespawn> i was involved in a project for a spotter plane, really a fixed wing microlight
[05:54] <magespawn> http://www.savetherhino.org/africa_programmes/hluhluwe-imfolozi_park_south_africa/eyes_in_the_skies
[05:54] <Kilosm> evil stupid chinks
[05:54] <magespawn> was helping to build the hanger and raise various other funds
[05:55] <Kilosm> great
[05:55] <Kilosm> someone should tell the chinks about viagra
[05:55] <Kilosm> cheaper then rhino horn
[05:55] <Kilosm> than
[06:11] <Kilosm> oh my net splits again
[06:13] <Kilosm> wb nlsthzn you first back after net split
[06:13] <nlsthzn> ah did the internets implode again
[06:14] <Kilosm> yeah
[06:14] <Kilosm> weird though you and tara and drubin and chanserv and few more here
[06:15] <Kilosm> and psydroid
[06:15] <Kilosm> so all over the world through that place
[06:15] <Kilosm> but me and magespawn are too strong
[06:16] <Kilosm> wb ChanServ 
[06:16] <Kilosm> stupid thing cant even say ty
[06:16] <magespawn> the force is strong in this one
[06:16] <Kilosm> lol
[06:19] <Kilosm> wb psydroid 
[06:20] <Kilosm> wb confluency 
[06:21] <nlsthzn> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/1999/detail/
[06:21] <nlsthzn> is this the only info for the joburg release party?
[06:21] <Kilosm> sec me looks
[06:21] <Kilosm> wb nuvolari 
[06:22] <Kilosm> eish nlsthzn no feedback from nico yet
[06:22] <Kilosm> grrr
[06:22] <Kilosm> mail him
[06:23] <nlsthzn> all I need is some link, perhaps photo's etc...
[06:23] <nlsthzn> the durban peeps have a blog post by maia and also photos on g+
[06:23] <Kilosm> good
[06:26] <magespawn> gotta go get ready for work, later all.
[06:26] <Kilosm> nlsthzn, can you mail nico michael and tell him you do whatever it is you do and need feedback?
[06:26] <Kilosm> go well magespawn 
[06:26] <nlsthzn> Kilosm, if you have his mail address pm it to me pls
[06:27] <Kilosm> lemme look. i on maverick here
[06:30] <Kilosm> wb TaraLS 
[06:30] <TaraLS> wb Everybody lol
[06:30] <nlsthzn> the net is restored...
[06:30] <Kilosm> nope sorry nlsthzn ive never mailed him
[06:31] <Kilosm> i think maia will have it if im not mistook
[06:31] <Kilosm> think he got cds sometime
[06:31] <Kilosm> or will look for his next complaint mail
[06:31] <nlsthzn> no worries... will ask again later when more peeps (and/or other peeps) are online
[06:32] <nlsthzn> lol
[06:32] <nlsthzn> I can also check the mailing list
[06:32] <Kilosm> hehe
[06:32] <Kilosm> he is a funny one
[06:32] <Kilosm> oh ya
[06:33] <nlsthzn> got it
[06:33] <nlsthzn> was to ez
[06:33] <Kilosm> hehe
[06:40] <Kilosm> nlsthzn, queery was also there i think
[06:40] <Kilosm> thump him too
[06:40] <zeref> morning ubuntu-za
[06:42] <Kilosm> hiya zeref 
[06:47] <nlsthzn> k uncle Kilosm ... will wait and see if I get answer from nico first
[06:47]  * nlsthzn forgets it is Sunday which isn
[06:47] <nlsthzn> isn't monday for everyone
[06:49] <Kilosm> oh ya
[06:50] <Kilosm> you can tell maaz to shake queery
[06:50] <Kilosm> but nico never comes here
[06:50] <Kilosm> scared someone bombs him
[06:51] <Kilosm> Maaz, tell queery nlsthzn is waiting for feedback from release parties
[06:51] <Maaz> Kilosm: Sure, I'll tell Queery on freenode
[07:15] <TaraLS> $79 per half hour, this one PC place.
[07:15] <TaraLS> Bloody hell. I hate the world.
[07:16] <Kilosm> whew they dont play
[07:17] <Kilosm> Maaz, convert 79 AUD to ZAR
[07:17] <Maaz> Kilosm: I'm not feeling too well
[07:17] <Kilosm> hmm
[07:18] <TaraLS> mazz conver 79aud to zar
[07:18] <TaraLS> eh
[07:18] <TaraLS> maaz convert 79aud to zar
[07:18] <Maaz> TaraLS: I can't do that: Unknown unit 'aud'
[07:18] <TaraLS> maaz convert 79au to zar
[07:18] <Maaz> TaraLS: I can't do that: Unknown unit 'zar'
[07:18] <TaraLS> maaz convert 79au to rand
[07:18] <Maaz> TaraLS: I don't think 79 au can be converted to rand
[07:18] <TaraLS> Uh, whatever
[07:18]  * TaraLS googles.
[07:18] <Kilosm> Maaz, convert 79 AUD ZAR
[07:18] <Maaz> Kilosm: *blink*
[07:19] <TaraLS> 734 rand
[07:19] <Kilosm> ya i just forgot the correct way to do it
[07:19] <Kilosm> ouch
[07:20] <Kilosm> hi mazal 
[07:20] <mazal> Morning everyone
[07:20] <TaraLS> Hello
[07:21] <mazal> How are you TaraLS and Kilosm ?
[07:21] <TaraLS> Depressed.
[07:22] <TaraLS> But what's new.
[07:22] <Kilosm> ok ty mazal 
[07:22] <TaraLS> This one computer repair place nearby will charge 734rand every HALF hour for computer repair
[07:22] <mazal> That's crazy
[07:25] <Kilos> bloody bot stubborn today
[07:25] <Kilos> oops
[07:25] <Kilos> wrong channel
[07:27] <mazal> I have a strange question this morning
[07:27] <Kilos> lets hear
[07:28] <mazal> I need to use up some data. What is some nice apps or things I can download ?
[07:29] <Kilos> look if you can find the ubuntu book
[07:30] <Kilos> The ubuntu Book
[07:30]  * mazal makes notes
[07:30] <Kilos> must be many megs there
[07:31] <mazal> Seeing as I don't know after tomorrow if I will be able to use the pc and with Friday last day of the month I don't want to waste data that is left
[07:31] <TaraLS> Toodles. I'm off to go lose my mind.
[07:31] <Kilos> toods
[07:31] <Kilos> what mind?
[07:31] <mazal> Bye TaraLS , good luck
[07:32] <Kilos> lol
[07:32] <mazal> I already have the newest parted magic , redo and clonezilla
[07:32] <mazal> Trying to think of other handy stuff
[07:33] <Kilos> oh ya
[07:33] <Kilos> UBCD
[07:33] <mazal> What be that Kilos ?
[07:33] <Kilos> handy tools for bad pcs if you can follow it
[07:33] <Kilos> or understand it
[07:34] <mazal> For Windoze machines ?>
[07:34] <Kilos> Maaz, google UBCD download
[07:34] <Maaz> Kilos: "Ultimate Boot CD - Download the UBCD" http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html :: "Ultimate Boot CD - Overview" http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ :: "|MG| Ultimate Boot CD (UBCD) 5.1.1 Download" http://majorgeeks.com/Ultimate_Boot_CD_d4981.html :: "Ultimate Boot CD ubcd 5.1.1 full download" http://www.mrbass.org/ubcd/ :: "Download Ultimate Boot CD 5.1.1
[07:34] <Maaz> Free - Run flerver are just a few of ..." http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Back-Up-and-Re…
[07:34] <Kilos> all machines
[07:34] <mazal> Oooh , I have heard about that one
[07:34] <Kilos> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html
[07:35] <mazal> Never used or seen it though
[07:35] <Kilos> also http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[07:40] <Kilos> i dunno if they have a user guide or manual for it
[07:40] <Kilos> you gotta think some to work it
[07:42] <Kilos> try this mazal for the book
[07:42] <Kilos> informit.com/safarifree
[07:43] <mazal> ta
[07:43] <Kilos> hope it works
[07:43] <Kilos> maybe some of the other guys will get it if it works
[07:47] <mazal> I wish I could get a cloning app that works with my m/board
[07:58] <Kilos> what you wanna clone mazal 
[07:58] <Kilos> UBCD can clone drives
[07:59] <mazal> My HDD Kilos 
[07:59] <Kilos> UBCD
[07:59] <mazal> Since I got my new pc none of the apps mos see my HDD
[07:59] <mazal> What app does it use for cloning ?
[07:59] <Kilos> or that dd command the fly says stay away from
[07:59] <Kilos> ?
[07:59] <mazal> dd not an option , drive is to big
[08:00] <mazal> Will take forever and don't have such huge destination
[08:00] <Kilos> you wanna clone to a smaller drive?
[08:00] <Kilos> eeek
[08:01] <mazal> To an image file , like I always did
[08:01] <mazal> But the stupid software don't work with my new m/board
[08:01] <Kilos> ai
[08:02] <Kilos> someone once told me how to make an iso of your running drive
[08:02] <Kilos> whew
[08:02] <Kilos> try remastersys
[08:06] <mazal> I already use remastersys mos
[08:06] <mazal> But that's an installable iso
[08:06] <mazal> I want an image as well
[08:07] <mazal> I'm gonna go read and see if I can find what UBCD use for cloning
[08:07] <Kilos> to do what with
[08:07] <mazal> If it's partclone it won't work
[08:07] <Kilos> get ubcd man
[08:08] <Kilos> youll most likely understand all its apps than i do
[08:10] <Kilos> its 300.5 megs
[08:10] <mazal> I see it has 5 different ones
[08:10] <mazal> 3 of which I already tried
[08:10] <mazal> Gonna read some more on the other 2
[08:17] <mazal> Oh boy , the one is in German hehehe
[08:18] <mazal> Ek verstaan nie german nie lol
[08:19] <Kilos> ai
[08:20] <mazal> Gaan hom download en sien
[08:20] <mazal> 2 van hulle lyk belowend
[09:04] <nlsthzn> If some of the clever people has any ideas - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2087963
[09:05] <Kilos> hehe theyll only be here tonight nlsthzn 
[09:05] <nlsthzn> :) ok 
[09:12] <mazal> Wow , not found has answered me a few times there , didn't even know he's one of us SA guys :)
[09:12] <Kilos> lol hes been here a long time
[09:12] <Kilos> before me hey nlsthzn ?
[09:36] <Squirm> hi
[09:41] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[09:43] <Kilos> i have to learn how to make a floppy bootable again
[09:43] <Kilos> sigh
[09:45] <Kilos> so stupid xp can get a driver to see a sata drive
[09:48] <nlsthzn> Kilos, I might have been in and out before you joined but your activity here has been > 9000 times more than mine and indeed most :)
[09:48] <Kilos> i started with 8.10 methinks nlsthzn 
[09:48] <nlsthzn> cool
[09:48] <Kilos> i just make noise here
[09:49] <nlsthzn> nah, you are awesome here :)
[09:49] <Kilos> couldnt get 8.04 to go online
[09:49] <nlsthzn> my first dabs with Ubuntu was 6.06... but only since coming here have I really had net access
[09:49] <Kilos> but thats where the ubuntu bug got hold
[09:49] <Kilos> wow you a ballie then
[09:50] <Kilos> 6.06 was first lts
[09:50] <nlsthzn> I was never hooked on Ubuntu actually... I <3 openSUSE then I made politics get the better of me and switched...
[09:50] <Kilos> lol
[09:50] <nlsthzn> should say loved openSUSE
[09:51] <nlsthzn> still like it :)
[09:51] <Kilos> i didnt like the way it booted from stiffy
[09:51] <Kilos> maybe i had an old copy
[09:55] <Kilos> ubuntu with gnome was a new awakening for me
[09:55] <Kilos> unity stressing that some
[10:46] <mazal> bbl , gonna test those apps
[10:57] <charl_> good afternoon
[10:57] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[10:57]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[11:00] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[11:00] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[11:00] <Maaz> Kilos: There's already a pot on. If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup
[11:01] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[11:01] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[11:01] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[11:01] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos!
[11:01] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[11:01] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[11:01] <Kilos> that was fast
[11:02] <Kilos> oh no 4 mins
[11:03] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[11:03] <Maaz> charl_: Okay :-)
[11:12] <Kilos> so hows charl_ doin
[11:21] <Kilos> sup mazal 
[11:22] <mazal> I was right , it was software related between the app and my mboard
[11:22] <mazal> I saw that there is a brand new Redo based on the latest Ubuntu
[11:22] <mazal> Tried that one and it works :)
[11:22] <Kilos> great
[11:22] <mazal> Haven't played with ubcd yet , will do that a bit later
[11:23] <Kilos> its very time consuming to find what you wanna do there
[11:24] <Kilos> but i think its a great and usefull cd to have when working on drives lots
[11:24] <Kilos> just wish they had a manual or user guide
[11:26] <mazal> Ja I also looked for a manual , but they don't have one
[11:27] <mazal> Would have loved to learn more about all those apps
[11:28] <Kilos> its very involved and if you click the wrong thin bang crash
[11:28] <Kilos> like never use clean or delete in the hdd section
[11:29] <Kilos> then often even your bios doesnt see the drive anymore
[11:30] <mazal> hmm
[11:36] <Kilos> maybe i just didnt tell it nicely what to clean
[11:36] <Kilos> thats what i say a manual would be great to have
[12:41] <charl_> hi Kilos
[12:41] <charl_> sorry got busy with other stuff here
[12:41] <charl_> cleaning the house and doing the laundry :)
[12:42] <charl_> i'm doing well, yourself?
[12:47] <mazal> Lo charl_ 
[13:10] <charl_> hi mazal 
[13:10] <charl_> how's it going
[13:32] <Kilos> ok ty
[13:33] <charl_> btw what happened re ibid and the twitter integration?
[13:33] <charl_> been away for two weeks so lost track of things
[13:33] <charl_> "away" from irc i mean
[13:36] <Kilos> oh i dunno
[13:36] <Kilos> ask maaz
[13:37] <Kilos> Maaz, last tweet by inetpro
[13:37] <Maaz> Kilos: No such twit
[13:38] <charl_> twit
[13:38] <charl_> ok that's rude :)
[13:38] <charl_> Maaz: stop calling inetpro a twit
[13:38] <Maaz> charl_: Excuse me?
[13:39] <Kilos> looks like nothing sorted there yet
[13:39] <charl_> somebody needs to learn Maaz some manners !
[13:39]  * charl_ kicks maaz and hurts his foot in the process... bad idea
[13:39] <Kilos> is that a rss feeds thing
[13:39] <charl_> metal isn't a good thing to kick
[13:40] <Kilos> hehe
[13:40]  * charl_ needs a boot with reinforced front
[13:40] <Kilos> ohi magtie 
[13:43] <charl_> ok bbl
[13:44] <Kilos> k
[14:10] <magespawn> evening
[14:14] <Kilos> hi mage
[14:14] <Kilos> magespawn, 
[14:27] <magespawn> steel toed boots
[14:27] <Kilos> hehe
[14:35] <magtie> hi evryone  Kilos
[14:42] <magespawn> hey magtie
[14:48] <magtie> hi magespawn
[14:51] <Kilos> so magtie how was the party?
[14:51] <Kilos> for the old man
[14:56] <Kilos> lo Vince-0 
[14:56] <Vince-0> hello Kilos 
[14:56] <magtie> Kilos I did not attend the party - just delivered cake
[14:56] <Kilos> aw shame
[15:02] <Kilos> hi Tonberry 
[15:02] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[15:02] <Tonberry> hallo
[15:09] <magtie> is there a difference between ubuntu & ubuntu-studio apart from the graphics programs?
[15:13] <Kilos> whew
[15:14] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/186078/main-differences-between-ubuntu-studio-12-04-and-ubuntu-12-04
[15:15] <Kilos> thats what maaz finds
[15:19] <magtie> Thanks Kilos 
[15:19] <Kilos> yw magtie 
[15:59] <Kilos> evening drussell 
[16:04] <Kilos> mazal, what you doing?
[16:12] <superfly> hi Kilos 
[16:12] <mazal> Kilos: watching the soccer
[16:12] <Kilos> ah
[16:14] <magespawn> Kilos have you used Lynx?
[16:15] <Kilos> yeah a while back magespawn the text based browser?
[16:15] <magespawn> yes
[16:15] <Kilos> also elinks
[16:15] <Kilos> gotta be clever with them
[16:15] <magespawn> will have a look at elinks
[16:15] <Kilos> one was a bit easier i think
[16:16] <Kilos> elinks if im not mistaken
[16:16] <magespawn> i am using lynx on the shop server from to download FreeNAS
[16:16] <Kilos> to do what?
[16:17] <Kilos> 8ta soiled me
[16:17] <magespawn> from home 
[16:17] <Kilos> spoiled
[16:17] <magespawn> to download freenas
[16:17] <Kilos> oh thats cool
[16:17] <Kilos> you too clever for me
[16:17] <magespawn> nah just learning a little bit at a time
[16:18] <magespawn> over a really long time
[16:18] <magespawn> so it looks like a lot
[16:18] <Kilos> lol
[16:22]  * mazal learned a little about alot , but doesn't know alot about little
[16:22] <mazal> Shees , that confused myself :P
[16:22] <Kilos> hehe and i know little about little
[16:23] <Kilos> forgot the rest
[16:23] <Kilos> all good there superfly ? say hi to mrs_fly for me
[16:25] <magespawn> Kilos that is what notes are for
[16:27] <Kilos> lol if you can remeber where they are ya
[16:27] <Kilos> or drive dont crash and lose them
[16:28] <magespawn> there is a program to keep track of things for you called medely or something]
[16:28] <magespawn> hold on will find a link
[16:28] <Kilos> where does it keep the info
[16:28] <Kilos> not online
[16:29] <Kilos> i could use ubuntuone for that
[16:29] <Kilos> but data prohibits
[16:30] <magespawn> no more like a reference for you pc, i think it does sync online though but have a look
[16:30] <magespawn> http://www.mendeley.com/
[16:31] <Kilos> ok ty i go see
[16:32] <magespawn> i wanted to try it out to organise all the pdf files that i have
[16:32] <magespawn> maiatoday told me about it, there are other options too
[16:34] <magespawn> http://alternativeto.net/software/mendeley/
[16:36] <magespawn> Maaz google mendeley alternatives
[16:36] <Maaz> magespawn: "Mendeley Alternatives and Similar Software - AlternativeTo.net" http://alternativeto.net/software/mendeley/ :: "Papers or Mendeley? « Astu's science blog" http://astuscience.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/papers-or-mendeley/ :: "Ye Olde Jonathan Birge » Blog Archive » Mendeley: How NOT to ..." http://scripts.mit.edu/~birge/blog/mendeley-how-not-to-run-a
[16:36] <Maaz> -beta-preview-program/ :: "Mendeley - Refworks alternatives - LibGuides at Kutztown Universi…
[16:37] <Kilos> whew
[16:38] <Kilos> they all web stuff
[16:38] <Kilos>  basically
[16:38] <Kilos> all i need is to not crash drives when i got folders for everything
[16:38] <Kilos> like ibid, commands for this, commands for that etc
[16:39] <Kilos> and other workarounds and things i use
[16:39] <zeref> hmmm
[16:40] <Kilos> always end up  with a massive mess on desktop and when i tidy it i forget what went where
[16:40] <Kilos> lo hmmmmer
[16:40] <zeref> lo Kilos 
[16:41] <Kilos> answer would be a secretary
[16:43] <magespawn> they make real coffee too sometimes
[16:43] <magespawn> so double score
[16:44] <magespawn> folders with the name of the topic?
[16:46] <Kilos> lol
[16:47] <Kilos> ya
[16:47] <Kilos> but there so many commands for different things i still lose them and find another day when looking for something else
[16:48] <magespawn> ahh well i always tend to keep multiple copies as well
[16:50] <Kilos> lol yeah and they just as easy to forget where they are
[16:50] <magespawn> indeed
[16:50] <Kilos> might even have a mage one here
[16:50] <Kilos> got a kerbero with networking stuff and links
[16:51] <magespawn> sometimes spend awhile looking, even just through email
[16:51] <Kilos> monkey with what he helped me with
[16:51] <Kilos> etc etc
[16:51] <magespawn> i am honoured
[16:51] <Kilos> hehe
[16:51] <Kilos> most guys that helped me have one
[16:53] <Kilos> the weed is the ibid one 
[16:54] <Kilos> and very deep somewhere is the crashkid with finding a prin i think it waster
[16:54] <Kilos> printer
[16:54] <mazal> I must say unity helps me a lot to find files
[16:55] <Kilos> i also have them spread over 4 drives with different ubuntus on
[16:55] <mazal> ouch
[16:55] <magespawn> maybe use an external 
[16:55] <Kilos> and an external that i dunno has what on apart from archives and backups
[16:56] <mazal> Have you ever looked into recoil Kilos ?
[16:56] <Kilos> nope what that
[16:56] <Kilos> in firearms yes
[16:56] <mazal> You set it up to monitor and then can search for phrases
[16:56] <mazal> And it actually not only checks filename , but also file contents
[16:56] <Kilos> the recoil on an fn rifle can almost break your shoulder if gas not set right
[16:57] <mazal> I had it on my previous install , but never used it much as unity mostly found what I was looking for
[16:57] <Kilos> will ask you again to tell me about it when/if i get kde going again
[16:57] <Kilos> im crying
[16:58] <Kilos> it wasnt a 80g drive with kde it was a 160g
[16:58] <Kilos> mweeee
[16:58] <mazal> You format wrong drive ?
[16:58] <Kilos> with everything saved on the 50g /storage
[16:59] <Kilos> tried boot-repair but forgot to disconnect kde
[16:59] <Kilos> boot-repair killed mbr boot sector and everything
[17:00] <mazal> Eina !!!
[17:00] <Kilos> whole drive doesnt allow me to partittion
[17:00] <Kilos> hehe
[17:00] <magespawn> can you not reinstall kde?
[17:00] <Kilos> such is life when you sit on your brain
[17:00] <Kilos> it cant partition it
[17:01] <Kilos> shows as unallocated but cant partition
[17:01] <magespawn> usually when you reinstall it detects the previous install and allows a side by side install
[17:01] <Kilos> maybe its some bug that came in with the 2 TB drive that was connected same time
[17:02] <Kilos> not one ubuntu can add a partition on it
[17:02] <Kilos> cant set it as active or anything
[17:03] <magespawn> disktools?
[17:03] <mazal> Have you tried in gparted "Device-delete partition table then Device-create partition table" ?
[17:03] <Kilos> which one magespawn 
[17:03] <magespawn> brb
[17:03] <Kilos> ive tried for days now with UBCD and supergrub
[17:04] <magespawn> Called Disk Utility
[17:04] <magespawn> will find a link
[17:05] <magespawn> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/gnome-disk-utility/
[17:05] <magespawn> i have found that it works sometimes when goarted does not
[17:05] <magespawn> gparted even
[17:06] <Kilos> gparted cant see it at all
[17:06] <Kilos> will look there ty
[17:06] <Kilos> hope its not big download
[17:08] <Kilos> i actually thing the mbr is corrupt in some way that i have been able to fix
[17:08] <magespawn>  not too sure about the size
[17:09] <Kilos> cant be too big methinks
[17:09] <magespawn> should be in the software centre
[17:09] <Kilos> oh then i have tried it
[17:09] <Kilos> dont see drive at all
[17:10] <magespawn> you sure?
[17:10] <Kilos> yip
[17:10] <magespawn> ahh well
[17:10] <magespawn> not sure what else to try
[17:11] <Kilos> but will find a way or die trying
[17:14] <Kilos> xp might work if i can get it to see the sata drive
[17:14] <Kilos> then fixboot and fixmbr
[17:15] <magespawn> did run Disk Utility as root?
[17:15] <magespawn> apparently it defaults to the current user
[17:15] <Kilos> ran it from my unity
[17:16] <Kilos> even testdisk cant see it
[17:16] <Kilos> but bios can
[17:17] <Kilos> so there must be a way
[17:17] <magespawn> did you try them with sudo?
[17:17] <Kilos> yip
[17:18] <magespawn> mm that sounds interesting
[17:19] <Kilos> very. i will really feel ive accomplished something when its fixed again
[17:19] <magespawn> indeed, document the steps if you can
[17:20] <Kilos> will try but doing so many things mixes one up some
[17:20] <magespawn> ahh we do what we can
[17:21] <Kilos> ya
[17:21] <Kilos> will be a good one to win though
[17:23] <Kilos> then the 2 TB should be easy
[17:23] <Kilos> its getting used to what does what on ubcd thats a bit mind boggling
[17:23] <magespawn> right
[17:24] <Kilos> dunno if its clone faciltity clones mbr as well
[17:24] <Kilos> that would be cool if it did
[17:30] <magespawn> mazal: what is recoil?\
[17:33] <mazal> magespawn, it's an app that monitors docs and allows you to search for word inside of docs.
[17:33] <mazal> It's either recoil or recoll
[17:33] <magespawn> will search
[17:33] <mazal> Can't remember the spelling lekker
[17:34] <magespawn> recoll
[17:34] <magespawn> it is
[17:34] <mazal> And I know you can run it either by itself , or as a lense
[17:34] <magespawn> http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/
[17:44] <magespawn> i am out of here for now, late all
[17:44] <Kilos> toods magespawn ty
[17:44] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[17:44] <mazal> Sleep well magespawn 
[17:49] <Kilos> im sure he will be back later
[17:52] <zeref> I'm trying to setup my dhcp-server for a Lan network
[17:52] <zeref> do i need entries for domain-name-servers, domain-name?
[17:58] <mazal> I have to go pack and all
[17:58] <mazal> Sleep well everyone
[18:00] <Kilos> ok sleep tight and good luck maz
[18:00] <Kilos> grr
[18:10] <queery> hi oom Kilos 
[18:10] <queery> wht do you need feedback
[18:10] <queery> ?
[18:11] <Kilos> hi queery 
[18:11] <Kilos> for nlsthzn to do the books thing
[18:11] <Kilos> photos attendance etc
[18:11] <queery> wanneer is die review van die loco
[18:11] <Kilos> what yous did and so on
[18:11] <Kilos> 18
[18:12] <nlsthzn> oh hai... for the release parties of joburg and pretoria
[18:12] <nlsthzn> for 12.10
[18:12] <Kilos> but he updates our thing monthly
[18:12] <queery> yea but do you know when the review of the loco is
[18:12] <queery> wasn't it tonight
[18:12] <queery> or some sonday
[18:14] <Kilos> review is 18 dec
[18:14] <Kilos> and meeting night before
[18:14] <queery> ok cool
[18:14] <queery> we are just getting the pics
[18:14] <queery> where do Isend it to
[18:17] <Kilos> nlsthzn, ?
[18:17] <superfly> Kilos: ja, we're all fine.
[18:18] <Kilos> good superfly ty
[18:18] <nlsthzn> I just need a link so I can post it on the team report... if we only have photo's I can blog it and put a link
[18:18] <nlsthzn> nlsthzn at gmail dot com
[18:18] <nlsthzn> just need the photo's and some info (dates etc,)
[18:19] <Kilos> thats the thing. its called Team Reports
[18:19] <nlsthzn> +
[18:19] <nlsthzn> +1 even
[18:20] <Kilos> lol
[18:20] <Kilos> i couldnt remember what you do neelsie
[18:20] <Kilos> sorry
[18:23] <queery> nlsthzn, just uploading to dropbox for you
[18:23] <queery> don't have it on a blog
[18:24] <nlsthzn> queery, kk, just mail me the link and give em some details, when what how who why etc. and I will do the rest :p
[18:25] <nlsthzn> AFAIK there was parties in joburg and Pretoria?
[18:26] <queery> all went well, we had lots of fun at the house for hack in centurion, got shown some of the projects they are working on while we were there. We are a bit disappointed about the turnout, but we had fun together.
[18:27] <queery> still waiting till dropbox uploads
[18:32] <queery> party details: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/1999/detail/
[18:32] <queery> still waiting
[18:32] <queery> dropbox is so slow
[18:34] <Kilos> bbnn
[18:48] <nlsthzn> queery, going to lala land.. message me here or pop an e-mail :) night all 
[19:01] <queery> nlsthzn,  https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14393547/Ubuntu%20release.zip