[00:01] <sambagirl> test
[00:01] <bluegrass> pass
[00:01] <sambagirl> ok
[00:02] <Gamefreak> OKay guys, i need help. Wanted to isntall ubuntu on my laptop but i test ran it on my other one and it had an issue with the graphics card which was resolved but right now after testing everything to install on my actual machine i seem to be having an issue, the installer would keep on loading to no end
[00:02] <dsa> any tips on how to get ubuntu desktop running ok with onboard graphics unichrome s3 (k7vm4 motherboard)... or if is it possible at all
[00:02] <Marlo> Does any body here know how or where can I see the config file configuration samba create when I share a Directory in a graphical way with gnome?
[00:02] <sambagirl> anyone here familiar with ubuntu ultimate edition?
[00:03] <k1l> sambagirl: that is not supported here.
[00:03] <sambagirl> it says ubuntu k1l but ok
[00:03] <Marlo> Does any body here know how or where can I see the config file configuration samba create when I share a Directory in a graphical way with gnome?
[00:03] <k1l> sambagirl: its a unofficial spinoff.
[00:04] <k1l> Marlo: it uses gvfs
[00:04] <sambagirl> ok well is rackspace cloud software official? cause it is using ubuntu
[00:04] <Gamefreak> anyone?
[00:04] <k1l> Marlo: i dont know exactly where is saves the configs, but that is a hint to take a look at
[00:04] <nashant> Hi guys. I have a portable ubuntu.img and I'm trying to increase the disk size. I've increased the size of the image with tfile, how might I now go about increasing the disk size within the image?
[00:05] <almoxarife> Marlo: the conf is smb.conf i believe
[00:06] <k1l> almoxarife: are you sure gvfs uses the samba conf?
[00:06] <Marlo> k1l, I'm tryin to share a directory with samba and al is working but I can not set up permissions with Eiciel in graphic mode and If I share a directory using gnome I can see the users whan can I do?
[00:06] <almoxarife> k1l: gvfs in smb.conf? i dont think so
[00:06] <Marlo> almoxarife, smb.conf does not show me the directories shared by gnome :(
[00:07] <k1l> almoxarife: the gui share options use gvfs. so that is what the user was asking
[00:07] <Jordan_U> nashant: Is this just a raw disk image?
[00:08] <almoxarife> k1l: i saw a question about samba conf location
[00:08] <jordie> Im using Ubuntu 12.10 (new to linux OS'). when searching in my dash home, how do I prevent certain media from popping up in the results?
[00:08] <jordie> I have adult themed media on my ubuntu computer and I dont want it popping up every time I search for something. Is there a way to prevent whole folders of files from popping up in the search?
[00:08] <almoxarife> k1l: perhaps you can assist Marlo
[00:09] <k1l> almoxarife: i dont know that much about gvfs. but i know that the nautilus is using it for the samba shares
[00:09]  * stijndg is away (Stijn is out BNC logging messages)
[00:09] <nashant> Jordan_U: No, it's the linuxonandroid ubuntu core image
[00:10] <k1l> !away > stijnaway
[00:10] <Marlo> k1l, I'm trying to setup a storage server with acl and Eiciel, all is working but I can using eiciel if I share directories with samba, I mean, editing smb.conf just If Share the directories wit gnome
[00:10] <Jordan_U> nashant: Can you pastebin the output of "file /path/to/ubuntu.img"?
[00:10] <almoxarife> k1l: gvfs is a virtual file system, allows you to mirror on your local system
[00:11] <nashant> Jordan_U: ubuntu.img: Linux rev 1.0 ext2 filesystem data (mounted or unclean), UUID=76d91f50-e597-4f2e-a700-ee777a1f2957 (large files)
[00:12] <vbgunz> from my humble bundle page, I go to install from ubuntu store but everytime I click to install anything, I amk greeted with 'could not find package, X' then I get an email about it. is there a quick fix for this?
[00:12] <Jordan_U> nashant: Is it currently mounted?
[00:12] <nashant> Jordan_U: nope. it's just sat there being an ass
[00:13] <Evil_Eric> has anyone noticed that k3b comes already installed on 12.10?
[00:13] <k1l> almoxarife: yes, but there is no config file for that
[00:13] <Jordan_U> nashant: Please watch your language. Can you make a copy of the image so that we can experiment without risking the data?
[00:14] <k1l> Marlo: sry, i dont know how to manage eiciel
[00:14] <usr13> Evil_Eric: Did you install kubuntu?
[00:14] <Evil_Eric> no ubuntu
[00:14] <nashant> Jordan_U: Sorry, copy made
[00:14] <usr13> Evil_Eric: Oh, didn't know that.  But it's about time.  It's the best IMHO.
[00:15] <Marlo> k1l, ok thank you any way
[00:15] <Evil_Eric> agreed
[00:15] <proka> Hey guys, I have a problem with SSH.
[00:15] <Evil_Eric> im slowly moving into 12.10
[00:15] <proka> Can someone please help?
[00:15] <Jordan_U> nashant: Try running "resize2fs /path/to/copy.img".
[00:16] <usr13> proka: With____________?
[00:16] <proka> usr13 When I try ssh-ing locally, e.g. ssh 192.168.1.50
[00:16] <proka> Everything works fine
[00:17] <proka> But when I try ssh-ing using my real IP
[00:17] <proka> I gives me an error
[00:17] <k1l> Evil_Eric: i dont think k3b is the standard program on 12.10
[00:17] <usr13> proka: You'd have to make provisions on your router to do it from outside.
[00:17] <Evil_Eric> well i dint install it and i have it
[00:17] <nashant> Jordan_U: I had to run e2fsck first, but it seems to have resized. I'll try it
[00:17] <proka> ssh: connect to host <ip_address_here> port 22: Connection timed out
[00:18] <k1l> proka: you cant go outside inside from your local lan
[00:18] <proka> Well, I tried doing that
[00:18] <proka> I tried port forwarding
[00:18] <Jordan_U> nashant: Yeah, as file suggested, the filesystem wasn't unmounted cleanly.
[00:18] <proka> And it doesn't seem to work :/
[00:19] <usr13> proka:  Maybe your ISP blocks it.  nmap -P 22 <ip_address_here>  and see
[00:19] <k1l> Evil_Eric: which ubuntu are you running? when did you install it? where did you get it?
[00:19] <Razor64> anyone here?
[00:19] <usr13> proka: You have port 22 forwarded to 192.168.1.50?
[00:19] <johnh> hello, i have a problem with booting ubuntu from a usb stick which appears to be full - is there a way i can remove files from the command line ?
[00:20] <usr13> johnh: Yes, rm /path/to/file
[00:20] <Evil_Eric> im running ubuntu 12.10 64Bit , I installed it today, I Got it directly from the ubuntu website
[00:20] <proka> usr13, Yeah. Unless it's not forwarded correctly.
[00:20] <yoginur> heloo
[00:21] <johnh> usr13 there is not a specific file which i need to delete - it's more removing tmp files
[00:21] <proka> usr13 Btw, nmap reports this Illegal Argument to -P, use -PN, -PO, -PI, -PB, -PE, -PM, -PP, -PA, -PU, -PT, or -PT80 (or whatever number you want for the TCP probe destination port)
[00:21] <proka> QUITTING!
[00:21] <k1l> Evil_Eric: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ubuntu-desktop  as you can see there, it is brasero and not k3b
[00:21] <dsa> any tips on how to get ubuntu desktop gui running ok with onboard graphics unichrome s3 (k7vm4 motherboard)... or if is it possible at all
[00:21] <dsa> ?
[00:22] <k1l> dsa: the unichrome/chrome drivers are "not the best" you should try the 2d desktops
[00:22] <almoxarife> Marlo: this may seem of topic but stay with me, i dont use gnome, i use kde, dolphin is the file browser (think nautilus), with it i can access some server via ssh(already is setup with sshd) to either server it up via sftp or fish, the point is that it looks seemless on my end, just another folder to access, i would think that nautilus is as capable via perhaps a plugin/script, samba is a mess in my opinion
[00:22] <usr13> proka:   -p  sorry...
[00:22] <usr13> proka:  nmap -p22
[00:23] <proka> Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2012-11-25 01:22 CET
[00:23] <proka> Interesting ports on :
[00:23] <proka> PORT   STATE    SERVICE
[00:23] <proka> 22/tcp filtered ssh
[00:23] <proka> Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.25 seconds
[00:23] <FloodBot1> proka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:23] <usr13> proka: It doesn't say:  22/tcp open  ssh  ?
[00:24] <proka> usr13 it says 22/tcp filtered ssh
[00:24] <usr13> proka: Oh filtered.  Yea, it should say open.  It's being blocked.
[00:24] <proka> Sooo, if I use a different port
[00:24] <proka> It should be fine?
[00:24] <dsa> k1l, but is it possible to get it running ok? or its simply impossible and i have to run 2D alternative to unity?
[00:24] <Evil_Eric> k1l, now you got me looking through everything
[00:24] <usr13> proka: you can try, yes.
[00:25] <cowsquad> anybody in here that has knowledge about bash scripts?
[00:25] <cowsquad> i need help with something
[00:25] <proka> Btw, is it my router blocking or my ISP? Can you even know that? :?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> !anyone | cowsquad
[00:25] <dsa> i mean if i can avoid installing a graphics card it would be great ^^
[00:25] <k1l> dsa: i think 3d is not possible. but i didnt need it recently so maybe my view is outdated. i would stick to 2d unity
[00:26] <usr13> proka: hard telling.  tracerout maybea
[00:26] <k1l> cowsquad: #bash knows for sure
[00:26] <dsa> k1l ok thanks =)
[00:27] <proka> It seems I'm not forwarding this correctly :S
[00:27] <cowsquad> I am having trouble sending an email from a bash script. The file doesnt get attach to the email, instead it get inlined in body of the message. I am using the mail command
[00:27] <proka> In the server address I should put in my local IP, right? And leave the remote host blank?
[00:27] <pimperle> hi
[00:28] <Jordan_U> cowsquad: That sounds like more of a "mail command" question than a bash one, but can you pastebin your script?
[00:28] <pimperle> i once had an application in ubuntu which provided a gui for CA management, certificate signing and such.
[00:28] <usr13> proka: Yes
[00:28] <pimperle> however i cannot remember its name
[00:28] <pimperle> anyone has a hint for me?
[00:28] <usr13> proka: traceroute -p 22 ###.###.##.#
[00:28] <johnh> sorry for asking again: the usb drive which does not boot, had xelatex installed and the stopped booting so i presume it is now full. is there a command i can use to delete temporary files or a way to make it bootable again as i need to get my bookmarks from my browser?
[00:29] <proka> usr13:  1  my-ip-with-dashes.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs (my_ip)  1.756 ms  3.125 ms  4.518 ms
[00:29] <dsa> unity-2d sound ok =D
[00:29] <usr13> johnh: Just delete some stuff in /media/disk/tmp  is all I know....
[00:29] <proka> And that's it.
[00:30] <usr13> proka: I dono
[00:30] <Jordan_U> johnh: Have you run "df -h" to confirm that it's actually full?
[00:30] <proka> Let me try restarting my router, brb
[00:31] <Evil_Eric> k1l, yeah i guess i might have installed it but im pretty sure i dint
[00:31] <johnh> jordan i will try it now
[00:31] <Jordan_U> !tab | johnh
[00:31] <johnh> tu thanks for this! i am a newbie here!
[00:31] <johnh> :)
[00:31] <Jordan_U> johnh: You're welcome :)
[00:32] <usr13> nmap 10.182.140.201
[00:32] <johnh> how can i cd to the usb drive from the command line so i can run the command?
[00:33] <britt_> it should be in /media
[00:33] <britt_> if it is mounted
[00:33] <dsa> omg... i installed unity-2d but when i startx i dont even get a login screen just the desktop background
[00:33] <Jordan_U> johnh: "df -h" will list the usage of all mounted filesystems, it doesn't matter what your current working directory is.
[00:33] <johnh> apparently it is not full
[00:33] <k1l> Evil_Eric: "grep 'k3b ' /var/log/dpkg.log "  could show
[00:34] <k1l> dsa: dont use startx
[00:34] <johnh> is there a way to get my bookmarks from my browser?
[00:34] <k1l> that will break alot of stuff.
[00:34] <cowsquad> jordan_u, there you go http://pastebin.com/HwM9Nn9c
[00:34] <k1l> dsa: use "sudo start lightdm"
[00:34] <yoginur> hello
[00:34] <yoginur> can u help me
[00:34] <Evil_Eric> thanks k1l ill check it out and if i did install it ill let you know
[00:34] <dsa> k1l,  oops sorry i always used that command im such a noob =P
[00:34] <k1l> !ask | yoginur
[00:35] <cowsquad> i am having trouble with line 46 dont worry about the "" on $attach those did not make any difference
[00:35] <dsa> thanks k1l  i'll try that
[00:35] <proka> usr13, I'm back. Nothing changed :/
[00:35] <Evil_Eric> k1l, nothing happened with the command you gave me
[00:36] <k1l> Evil_Eric: hmm, maybe the log is no long enough :/
[00:36] <Evil_Eric> couldnt i use gedit to veiw this
[00:38] <johnh> Jordan_U, usb drive is not full. is there a way to revert usb to its previous state from the command line? i can see the spash screen and when i press alt + F6 it gets me to the command line
[00:39] <Evil_Eric> k1l, is there like a k3b package name i could grep that would show info
[00:40] <k1l> Evil_Eric: the package name is k3b
[00:40] <proka> usr13 do you have any other ideas?
[00:40] <Evil_Eric> hmmm then why wouldnt it show up
[00:40] <Jordan_U> cowsquad: Why do you expect that to attatch anything rather than just use stdin for the body?
[00:41] <Jordan_U> cowsquad: Also, you should quote "$option".
[00:41]  * Evil_Eric calls scooby doo and the guys to solve a linux mystery 
[00:42] <almoxarife> i have a upnp server on my lan, xbmc, i noticed that i can see it via the rooted kindle-android, but i have yet to figure out how to get access to it via upnp on the linux box, i am not sure if i have all the dependencies for upnp or a upnp player, sort of irks me, the android sees it yet my lappy cant, anyone ever get access to a upnp server with something linux?
[00:42] <usr13> proka: To see if it is the isp, try loging into the outside IP from inside.
[00:42] <k1l> Evil_Eric: apt-cache depends k3b
[00:42] <proka> usr13 how do I do that?
[00:42] <dsa> though apt-get install unity-2d would be enough but it doesnt appear as an option after sudo start lightdm
[00:42] <dsa> =(
[00:43] <usr13> proka: if the router is configured correctly and it is your ISP that is blocking it, the you will be able to login from inside but not outside.
[00:43] <Jordan_U> cowsquad: You should also quote "$attach" and I don't understand the purpose of running "ls" before sending the email.
[00:43] <Evil_Eric> 1 min cookie has priority
[00:43] <usr13> proka: login to your outside IP from a PC on the LAN
[00:44] <proka> usr13: But... How? I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what do you want me to do?
[00:44] <DeSian> bot
[00:44] <usr13> proka: If it works from inside and not from outside, it is the ISP that is blocking port 22.
[00:44] <johnh> does anyone here have an idea about how to revert back my usb drive to its previous state so it can boot again? i installed xelatex but now it cannot boot. (i am sorry for posting it again..)
[00:45] <usr13> proka: From a PC on the inside of your LAN, try to login to the outside IP, (the one that you are trying to get to is ok as well).  ssh out.side.ip
[00:46] <proka> usr13: That doesn't work, it gives me the connection timed out error
[00:46] <Seption> Alguem ai?
[00:46] <Evil_Eric> k1l, i got the info
[00:47] <BlueProtoman> Anyone know why I can't install LibreOffice or GIMP?  I tried a command from ActionParsnip earlier, but then I had to leave.  This is the result; http://pastebin.com/Za2UZSpk
[00:47] <Evil_Eric> we had a space between 'k3b '
[00:47] <BlueProtoman> It looks like my dependencies are all screwed up.  I DO have a lot of PPAs.
[00:47] <usr13> proka: Then it's your router config that needs correcting.
[00:47] <proka> Btw, I'm not sure if you understood my problem correctly, I'm basically trying to connect to my own PC, but using the outside IP, the one that I get from the ISP. Locally it works.
[00:47] <k1l> Evil_Eric: ah ok. so you installed it
[00:47] <Evil_Eric> k1l, mind if i pm you
[00:47] <gordonjcp> proka: are you behind NAT?
[00:48] <usr13> proka: Try logging into the router's outside IP.
[00:48] <proka> gordonjcp: I don't know, how do I check that?
[00:48] <Evil_Eric> what would it say if i did install it
[00:48] <usr13> proka: What kind of router is it?
[00:48] <k1l> Evil_Eric: keep support in here, so others could correct or learn from it
[00:48] <gordonjcp> proka: you probably are, if you're behind a broadband router.  What's your internal IP address?
[00:49] <mjuszczak> hmmmm.  I'm moving to a new account on my machine and forgot to backup my .cache directory.  I assume that's not needed anyway?
[00:49] <gordonjcp> mjuszczak: no
[00:49] <dsa> k1l,  i forgot to say i'm trying 12.10
[00:49] <usr13> proka: You would have to log into your router and see what it's outside IP is.
[00:49] <mjuszczak> gordonjcp: okay.  Applications that need it will re-generate it?
[00:49] <proka> usr13: The router is ADB. It says this on the sticker on the back: P.DG A4010G A-000-1A1-A4
[00:50] <gordonjcp> mjuszczak: yes, if they need to
[00:50] <proka> gordoncjp: My internal IP is 192.168.1.50 (configured it that way), and the router's IP address is 192.168.1.1
[00:50] <dsa> just red somewhere "...The Unity 2D software has been completely removed from the Ubuntu repositories, so if you want it you'll have to build it from source.."
[00:50] <dsa> =/
[00:50] <gordonjcp> proka: handy hint, if you type gor<tab> and maybe keep hitting tab a couple of times, eventually it will autocomplete my nick and I'll see when you mention me
[00:50] <mjuszczak> thanks
[00:51] <Jordan_U> dsa: There are still many other options, including XFCE.
[00:51] <gordonjcp> proka: that IP address means you're behind NAT
[00:51] <k1l> dsa: oh, thought they were skipping it after 13.04
[00:51] <gordonjcp> proka: you need to set up a port forward in your router, so that port 22 on the "outside" IP address is routed to port 22 on your desktop machine
[00:51] <Mo30bat> lol
[00:51] <proka> gordonjcp, Nice, didn't know about that thing with tabbing.
[00:51] <gordonjcp> proka: you should check the documentation for your router, or poke about in the config page
[00:51] <Mo30bat> :d
[00:51] <H4x012> guys
[00:52] <gordonjcp> proka: tab-complete is very handy
[00:52] <gordonjcp> proka: it's just like in the terminal
[00:52] <proka> gordonjcp, I did the port forwarding, but either I'm not doing it right, or something else is wrong.
[00:52] <H4x012> what backup software you offer to make hourly backup on linux server?
[00:52] <sambagirl> how do you switch to another tty when there is an installation failing?
[00:52] <sambagirl> or open one up
[00:52] <Mo30bat> chee bahalan
[00:53] <k1l> sambagirl: ctrl+alt+f1
[00:53] <BlueProtoman> Hello?  Anyone?
[00:53] <sambagirl> tthanks
[00:53] <cowsquad> jordan_U, i am new to bash script I was just trying new things lol, yeah i did put quotes on "$attach". But based on some research, MAIL command doesnt support attaching files from a script
[00:53] <sambagirl> thanks k1l
[00:53] <BlueProtoman> LibreOffice/GIMP issue?
[00:53] <briankb> hey guys, I want to tell nfsd to only listen on 127.0.0.1.  I read nfsd(8) and found --host paramter. Is there a configuration file where I can set that parameter?
[00:53] <proka> gordonjcp, I've set the protocol to be SSH, put in external port start 22, external port end 22, internal port start 22 and internal port end 22. I've also set the Server IP address to be 192.168.1.50 and left the remote host field empty.
[00:54] <Mo30bat> H4x012 kheyli tooopeee
[00:54] <meisth0th> hi
[00:54] <proka> gordonjcp, *not protocol, service, the protocol is TCP
[00:54] <H4x012> proka
[00:54] <proka> H4x012, Yeah?
[00:54] <dsa> still would like to try the unity 2d option instead of xfce Jordan_U
[00:54] <H4x012> do you wanna connect via ssh ?
[00:54] <H4x012> from outsite?
[00:55] <paul_> hi guys, i want to configure a vpn, but i don't know how i should do this .. can anyone help me pls? :)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> proka: funnily though, ssh is a protocol :)
[00:55] <proka> H4x012, I'm basically trying to ssh to my own PC, but instead of using my local IP address, I want to use the remote IP address I get from the ISP. I've found the IP address on ifconfig.me.
[00:55] <MonkeyDust> paul_  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[00:55] <meisth0th> i've just installed ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop. but i am experiencing some strange slowness. i installed nvidia packages but had to create xorg.conf with nvidia-xconfig, can there be a problem related with this?
[00:56] <H4x012> proka do you have ssh server and client installed?
[00:56] <proka> ActionParsnip, Yeah, but when I'm port forwarding it doesn't care what am I going to use it for, it just wants to know if I want it to be TCP or UDP :)
[00:56] <proka> H4x012, Yes, installed and running.
[00:56] <gnnr> paul_, try opening your network connections window and looking for a tab for vpn settings
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> proka: hehe just an interesting point
[00:56] <H4x012> nice
[00:57] <H4x012> sorry i am asking for those, coz just came to conversation
[00:57] <H4x012> sometimes i had same problem
[00:57] <proka> H4x012, No probs :)
[00:57] <sambagirl> how would one pastebin from a shell a log file?
[00:58] <k1l> sambagirl: use pastebinit
[00:58] <sambagirl> thanks k1l
[00:58] <gnnr> paul_, you may need to install some packages depending on the type of vpn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[00:58] <paul_> im sorry, i want to install a vpn service, not a client
[00:58] <MonkeyDust> sambagirl  cat blah.log | pastebinit
[00:58] <H4x012> paul_
[00:58] <Jordan_U> sambagirl: pastebinit /var/log/foo.log
[00:58] <H4x012> use openvpn
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> meisth0th: are you fully update? Does the system have a make and model?
[00:58] <k1l> MonkeyDust: useless use of cat :)
[00:58] <H4x012> proka so you did your config on /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[00:58] <H4x012> right?
[00:58] <proka> H4x012, The thing that we found out is that nmap reports my port 22 as filtered
[00:59] <proka> H4x012, I didn't touch anything there, should I?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> proka: /etc/ssh/sshd_config  ;)
[00:59] <k1l> MonkeyDust: pastebinit can read direct from files. you need to pipe just for command-output
[00:59] <gnnr> ah vpnserver my bad paul_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[00:59] <sambagirl> pastebinit is amazing
[00:59] <H4x012> proka
[00:59] <H4x012> use iptables
[00:59] <H4x012> to allow 22 port
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: lots :)
[00:59] <proka> H4x012, Ok, give me a second pls, I'll report back
[00:59] <H4x012> or change port to 2222
[01:00] <Mo30bat> :d
[01:00] <sambagirl> :D
[01:00] <H4x012> sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT
[01:01] <dysun> join #swift
[01:01] <dysun> sorry forgot the /
[01:01] <paul_> okay, thanks, i'll try it
[01:02] <proka> H4x012, Done it. Should I try sshing now?
[01:02] <H4x012> yeah
[01:03] <paul_> another questen .. does anybody know how im able to install the new sykpe on a x64 system?
[01:03] <H4x012> sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[01:03] <H4x012> this also work
[01:04] <paul_> skype, sorry
[01:04] <H4x012> paul_
[01:04] <H4x012> sudo apt-get remove skype skype-bin
[01:04] <H4x012> wget -O skype http://download.skype.com/linux/skype-ubuntu_4.0.0.8-1_i386.deb
[01:04] <proka> H4x012, Nope, it still says connection timed out.
[01:04] <H4x012> sorry
[01:04] <H4x012> this one paul_
[01:04] <H4x012> wget -O skype http://download.skype.com/linux/skype-ubuntu_4.0.0.8-1_amd64.deb
[01:04] <H4x012> sudo apt-get install libxss1 lib32stdc++6 lib32asound2 ia32-libs libc6-i386 lib32gcc1
[01:04] <H4x012> sudo apt-get -f install
[01:05] <H4x012> sudo dpkg -i skype && sudo rm skype
[01:05] <H4x012> done.
[01:05] <k1l> H4x012: there is a new 4.1 skype with multiarch
[01:05] <paul_> okay thanks H4x012 .. i'll try it later
[01:05] <H4x012> aham ok
[01:05] <overpriced_yopla> Wiuld anybody like
[01:05] <H4x012> coz i use skype only on windows
[01:06] <overpriced_yopla> Oops
[01:06] <gnnr> paul- if you prefer via apt-get you can try here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[01:06] <k1l> paul_: you tried the new multiarch deb on skype.com?
[01:06] <H4x012> proka
[01:06] <H4x012> hmmm
[01:06] <H4x012> restart your sshd
[01:06] <H4x012> sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[01:07] <paul_> k1l yes, but it doesnt work
[01:07] <jrib> H4x012: use the service command or initctl, not /etc/init.d directly
[01:07] <gnnr> make sure, as H4x012 said running apt-get -f install after, in case dependencies are missing
[01:07] <proka> H4x012, sudo service ssh stop && sudo service ssh start
[01:07] <proka> ?
[01:07] <overpriced_yopla> Would anybody like to suggest a website for newbs so i dont have to ask what all this means? Im at a newb dos 3.0 level atm
[01:08] <H4x012> it would also do
[01:08] <jrib> overpriced_yopla: define "this".  What do you want to accomplish?
[01:08] <gnnr> overpriced_yopla, i like the community wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[01:09] <BlueProtoman> Anyone know why I can't install LibreOffice or GIMP?  I tried a command from ActionParsnip earlier, but then I had to leave.  This is the result; http://pastebin.com/Za2UZSpk
[01:09] <overpriced_yopla> Comands grub sudo apt etc... maybe an instruction manual for windows widdowers
[01:09] <BlueProtoman> It looks like my dependencies are all screwed up.  I DO have a lot of PPAs.
[01:09] <craigbass1976> I've got a Lucid server...  apache appears to be running fine (my site is up) but dovecot doesn't seem to be working.  Unfortunately, sshd doesn't seem to be working either.  I'm assuming the server got drunk and had a family fight over Thanksgiving (one reason I'm out of town to begin with) and it looks like I'm screwed until I can get my hands on it unless someone has another idea.  I get asked for a password (ss
[01:09] <craigbass1976> h) then it hangs
[01:09] <proka> overpriced_yopla, You can always type man <name_of_the_program> in terminal and get manual entry :)
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> BlueProtoman: did you remove the PPA?
[01:09] <H4x012> proka change your ssh port and try it again
[01:10] <Slevin> Y'a des français dans le tas ?
[01:10] <proka> H4x012, in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[01:10] <H4x012> yeah
[01:10] <k1l> BlueProtoman: which ppas do you have? and do you really need them?
[01:10] <paul_> btw .. nice community here :) it's my first time to be on this channel and it's great ;D
[01:10] <gnnr> hey overpriced_yopla https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[01:10] <IdleOne> !fr | Slevin
[01:11] <jrib> craigbass1976: try passing -vvv to ssh I guess.  See if you can execute commands if you can't get your default shell up (can you get another shell up)
[01:11] <k1l> BlueProtoman: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[01:11] <overpriced_yopla> Thanks proka but that doesnt help....back to google i go
[01:11] <gnnr> overpriced_yopla, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[01:11] <BlueProtoman> k1l: My PPAs have the newer versions of what's in the USC.
[01:11] <k1l> BlueProtoman: but the ppa seems rubbish. that is what causes the errors.
[01:11] <jrib> !terminal | overpriced_yopla
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> BlueProtoman: as there is an urgency 'as you said earlier'....... you can install abiword and gnumeric
[01:12] <k1l> BlueProtoman: and show a "lsb_release -a" and a "sudo apt-get update" in a pastebiin pls
[01:12] <proka> overclucker, Why doesn't it help? It is a bit strange in the beginning, but you'll get used to it I think...
[01:12] <gnnr> overpriced_yopla, i also recommend lxde because it feels like winxp but better! :)
[01:12] <overpriced_yopla> Perfect ubottu i think thats what im looking for.
[01:13] <almoxarife> i have a upnp server on my lan, xbmc, i noticed that i can see it via the rooted kindle-android, but i have yet to figure out how to get access to it via upnp on the linux box, i am not sure if i have all the dependencies for upnp or a upnp player, sort of irks me, the android sees it yet my lappy cant, anyone ever get access to a upnp server with something linux?
[01:13] <BlueProtoman> k1l: http://pastebin.com/uEMdvuc2  and http://pastebin.com/xJGHWvDs (note that I have Synaptic open)
[01:13] <proka> H4x012, I've changed it to 555, but it still reports port 22 in the error :S
[01:14] <mjuszczak> Is 12.10 recommended yet?
[01:14] <jrib> mjuszczak: 12.10 is the latest stable release
[01:14] <overpriced_yopla> I am about to wrap up ubuntu install on partition with xp socket stack all jacked up in attempts to get back online for work/study while making a slow transition into linux something
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> mjuszczak: since October, yes
[01:14] <k1l> BlueProtoman: o_O you have natty and oneiric sources in your system
[01:15] <BlueProtoman> k1l: I'm guessing my shit's real fucked up.
[01:15] <k1l> BlueProtoman: that is a wonder it is running anyway
[01:15] <mjuszczak> jrib: I remember there were some major issues with some people installing it and they were sticking  with 12.04.  Have those been resolved?  I assume I'm being a bit vague here :) So I'll try it out
[01:15] <jrib> mjuszczak: you're being too vague :)  Check the release notes
[01:15] <jrib> !notes | mjuszczak
[01:15] <MonkeyDust> BlueProtoman  you're mixing different ubuntu versions
[01:16] <k1l> BlueProtoman: and pls: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[01:16] <almoxarife> BlueProtoman: watch your mouth, this is not the place for profanity
[01:16] <mjuszczak> Thanks :)
[01:16] <overpriced_yopla> Im installing 12 on a pos dell 7 years ancient and it seems to be going smooth. Used an android to get the os on there. Quiet a feat for me
[01:16] <BlueProtoman> MonkeyDust: Here.  http://pastebin.com/bqstq59t  I just removed some PPAs for things I uninstalled.
[01:17] <jrib> overpriced_yopla: ok, but keep in mind there really isn't a "12".  There's 12.04 (corresponds to the fourth month (april) of 2012) and 12.10 (october 2012).  So be specific if you need help with something
[01:17] <qualia> so if i have an ubuntu image for pen drive, do I need to reformat the pen drive (usb) or just cleaning the drive is enough
[01:17] <overpriced_yopla> Ok 12.04.
[01:18] <k1l> BlueProtoman: and last pls: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:18] <qualia> assuming that im writing it with dd
[01:18] <MonkeyDust> BlueProtoman  yeah, natty is or was the culprit
[01:18] <overpriced_yopla> I formatted mine
[01:18] <overpriced_yopla> And it  booted into ubuntu yay!
[01:18] <BlueProtoman> MonkeyDust: Here you  go.  http://pastebin.com/eehWGZaV
[01:18] <BlueProtoman> MonkeyDust: I think this might also be keeping me from upgrading to Ubuntu 12.10.
[01:19] <MonkeyDust> BlueProtoman  you have to get rid of the natty sources
[01:19] <BlueProtoman> MonkeyDust: Will do.
[01:20] <k1l> MonkeyDust: no, his system already thinks it is a natty
[01:20] <BlueProtoman> But what happens if I want software that hasn't been ported to oneric or later?
[01:20] <MonkeyDust> k1l  missed that part
[01:20] <paul_> when i get an error code 13 after mounting a ntfs partition, my hdd is corrupt, isn'T it?
[01:20] <k1l> he should use a real natty sources.list and go for a full up to date update/upgrade/dist-upgrade
[01:21] <overpriced_yopla> It has the internet!!! Ubuntu saved my job and family. Amazing. I came to irc for nothing....well that website will help.
[01:22] <BlueProtoman> k1l: And how might I do that?
[01:22] <BlueProtoman> Getting a real natty sources.list, that is?
[01:23] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:23] <Chaos7Theory> What just happened? o-o
[01:23] <MonkeyDust> BlueProtoman  basically, your system is too old
[01:23] <delac> Would anyone happend to know a trick to get huawei e160e (recognized as e220 12d1:1003) to work on 12.04/10?
[01:24] <k1l> BlueProtoman: MonkeyDust sry, i was wrong. remove the natty lines from the sources.list
[01:24] <overpriced_yopla> Delac ubunto works on cricket phones?
[01:24] <k1l> BlueProtoman: then run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:24] <overpriced_yopla> *ubuntu
[01:24] <nashant_> hi guys. I'm running a portable ubuntu.img image and trying to get mysql working, but it just won't run. Where do I find system messages?
[01:25] <Dr_Willis__> and whats a cricket phone overpriced_yopla  and how would you plan on instgalling ubuntu on a phone?
[01:25] <zerowaitstate> overpriced_yopla: I think you can fix the tcp stack in XP using "netsh ip reset <logfile>"
[01:25] <k1l> overpriced_yopla: ubuntu is not oficially supported on phnes yet. so you need to ask the develope-community from that special phone.
[01:25] <zerowaitstate> but ubuntu is way better than xp anyway
[01:25] <overpriced_yopla> Its a cell phone service provider and i was asking del if it were possible
[01:27] <vespakoen> Hey guys, I am using Xmonad, on top of Ubuntu, and am wondering if there is someone in here with a lot of "GUI hacking" experience? I might want to give it a go to pimp my application menu's if that's possible =P
[01:28] <vespakoen> I mean, It's surely possible but I have no clue what it would involve, is there some application taking care of that that I can look into?
[01:29] <elbeto> Hi, im running Xubuntu 12.10, it does not recognized USB 2.0 External Slim CD-ROM Drive for Acer Aspire
[01:30] <Dr_Willis__> vespakoen:  what exactly are you trying to acomplish?
[01:30] <vespakoen> you know those dropdowns you have on applications, I want o make them look better
[01:30] <vespakoen> they are fucking ugly =D
[01:30] <overpriced_yopla> I installed ubuntu via usb on a partition. How do i remove the microsoft partition?
[01:30] <vespakoen> Or a way to globally hide them, and get them back if I need them
[01:30] <jrib> vespakoen: you probably just need to pick a gtk theme...
[01:30] <bazhang> vespakoen, no cursing here
[01:31] <vespakoen> sorry for that
[01:31] <k1l> overpriced_yopla: use gparted for that
[01:31] <jrib> vespakoen: or, if you like xmonad, consider using applications that don't have those menus displayed at all :)
[01:31] <vespakoen> haha
[01:31] <vespakoen> makes sense
[01:32] <vespakoen> I'm not an uber-nerd or anything, just like to have a TWM
[01:32] <vespakoen> learning VIM / Emacs etc just takes so much time
[01:32] <Dr_Willis__> learning vi is one of the most usefull skills you can do.
[01:32] <Dr_Willis__> emacs - perhaps not so much.
[01:33] <vespakoen> yep I know, I have the basics down, but still, to replace sublime text, i would need a ****load of more practice
[01:33] <jrib> vespakoen: just run vimtutor.  In 30 minutes you'll be able to use it for whatever you want to do (you'll learn to use it more efficiently as time goes on)
[01:34] <Dr_Willis__> never heard of sublime text. Ive used dozens of text editors over the years. of them all i still perfer vim, geany, and good old CygnusED on my amiga ;)
[01:34] <SolarisBoy> my coworker started buzzing about sublime a while ago
[01:35] <SolarisBoy> tried it out was pretty cool actually but i wouldn't switch over just yet
[01:35] <vespakoen> sure, if you do know vim, then you don't need sublime text
[01:35] <vespakoen> but if you don't know vim, then it's the best you can get
[01:35] <SolarisBoy> yea it always seemed like his escape from vim to me lol
[01:36] <Dr_Willis__> its worth learning vim since or some variant of it is everywhere. ;)
[01:36] <elbeto> any suggestions? how can i make aspire one running xubuntu 12.10 to read external cd drive
[01:37] <rm-fr> hi, im using 12.04 with compiz and im wondering if there's a way to resize and place 6 terminals across my acreen with equal size, without manually resizing each window
[01:37] <rm-fr> s/screen/screen/
[01:37] <rm-fr> jeez
[01:37] <rm-fr> s/acreen/screen/
[01:37] <nashant_> hi guys. I'm running a portable ubuntu.img image and trying to get mysql working, but it just won't run. Ive tried looking in the mysql logs nothing. Tried the syslog, nothing. Anywhere else?
[01:37] <k1l> rm-fr: compiz grid plugin can only set 4/4 on one screen
[01:38] <rm-fr> k1l: guess that would do, thank you
[01:38] <Dr_Willis__> elbeto:  plug it in, chedk dmesg command, try mounting the disk by hand.. what sort of disk are you trying to access?
[01:38] <BlueProtoman> MonkeyDust: Thanks for your help!  System's all clean now.
[01:38] <elbeto> Dr.
[01:39] <elbeto> Dr_Willis_: thanks, i just got the aspire external cd drive to install software
[01:40] <Dr_Willis__> install what software?
[01:40] <jrib> nashant_: what exactly is a "portable ubuntu.img image"?  How are you attempting to run mysql?  What exactly happens when you try?
[01:41] <elbeto> also to read files (pictures, docs etc) that I have on cd
[01:42] <Dr_Willis__> elbeto:  plug it in, chedk dmesg command, try mounting the disk by hand......
[01:42] <elbeto> I'll try, thanks!
[01:42] <nashant_> jrib: linuxforandroid. installed with sudo apt-get install -y mysql-server, running with sudo service mysql start. Nothing happens. It doesn't display any errors, but also doesn't actually run and create the socket
[01:42] <Dr_Willis__> !mount
[01:44] <jrib> nashant_: so nothing in ps -ef?  What happens when you run the server directly and avoid using service?
[01:44] <k1l> nashant: for what device is that? i think that is more a device community support issue than a general ubuntu support issue
[01:44] <MonkeyDust> elbeto  basically: mkdir [some name]; sudo mount /dev/blah/ [that name]
[01:44] <Jordan_U> nashant_: What is the output of "service mysql status"?
[01:44] <jrib> k1l, nashant_: *nod* it's likely some sort of issue with the image
[01:45] <k1l> nashant: since it is a chroot-install and no real ubuntu install
[01:45] <elbeto> MonkeyDust: thanks
[01:47] <k1l> nashant: that will be the adress to ask for support: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585009
[01:47] <overpriced_yopla> My questions seem so pathetic... the partition i want to remove is the one with a boot flag. Will it create a bootable drive or should i just leave my system on 24/7?
[01:48] <overpriced_yopla> Using gparted
[01:48] <Dr_Willis__> you can alwyas fix the boot stuff..
[01:48] <k1l> overpriced_yopla: the boot flac is only necessary for the windows
[01:48] <k1l> *flag
[01:48] <Dr_Willis__> and set your linux / or /boot/ partion boot flag if you wanted..  I agrtee with k11 ;)
[01:48] <delac> Would anyone happend to know a trick to get huawei e160e (recognized as e220 12d1:1003) to work on 12.04/10?
[01:48] <Dr_Willis__> but i always set  the boot flag out of old habbit.
[01:50] <nashant_> jrib: no mention of it in ps -ef
[01:50] <k1l> delac: seems like you need a usb_modeswitch for that. so that its not recognized as a usb stick but a modem
[01:50] <overpriced_yopla> It wont even let me delete the windows partition
[01:50] <nashant_> Jordan_U: it doesn't say anything at all
[01:51] <Jordan_U> nashant_: If this is indeed a chroot that's because upstart has been replaced with a no-op cludge. We can't really support such a configuration.
[01:52] <nashant_> Jordan_U: I have no idea what you just said, apart from the chroot, which it is
[01:52] <k1l> delac: make a /lib/udev/rules.d/61-option-modem-modeswitch.rules and include following text: "ATTRS{idVendor}=="12d1", ATTRS{idProduct}=="1003", RUN+="modem-modeswitch -v 0x%s{idVendor} -p 0x%s{idProduct} -t option-zerocd""
[01:53] <k1l> delac: after a sudo service udev reload  it should work like intended
[01:55] <nashant_> Jordan_U: with what you were talking about, would apache still work?
[01:55] <Jordan_U> nashant_: What you have is an ugly hack, we can't support it.
[01:56] <Jordan_U> nashant_: You basically don't have upstart at all.
[01:57] <nashant_> so without upstart apache would still work
[01:59] <adrianveronezu> salut
[02:01] <janisozaur> hi there! I have a pretty uncommon question (so I presume), I think of getting myself a new ssd drive, upgrade from my hdd. there are those different techs: slc, mlc, tlc which pretty much differ *a lot* when it comes to endurance. So I thought it would be nice to have some solid information (instead of simply guessing) on how much writes do I usually do per day - I am a developer and shuffling lots of data is not that uncommon on my mac
[02:03] <bazhang> janisozaur, try ##hardware
[02:03] <janisozaur> bazhang: thanks
[02:05] <Evil_Eric> i see windows in my near futer
[02:05] <Dr_Willis__> i see totally dumping windows in my Future.
[02:05] <paul_> hello, i have to repair a notebook and i get an error 13 after trying mounting a ntfs partition .. want i can try next? am i supposed to rescue this partition?
[02:06] <Dr_Willis__> steam and netflix both now on Ubuntu. ;)
[02:06] <Evil_Eric> yeah i got netflix just because its on ubuntu now
[02:06] <Evil_Eric> :)
[02:06] <Dr_Willis__> paul_:  you may wan tto try to use ddrescue to image the filesystem to a file then try to recover data from that file
[02:06] <overpriced_yopla> Amazing. It all worked using my android to install ubuntu on an old dell. You guys are awsome and free! Amazing.
[02:08] <paul_> this method needs time :D 320gb, how long does it need to have an similar image?
[02:08] <Evil_Eric> is gnome still suported at all?
[02:08] <Dr_Willis__> ive used ddrescue to image a 1+TB image from a flakey usb hd.. took like a week. :) but the HD was failing badly
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> paul_: what does error 13 mean?
[02:08] <Dr_Willis__> Evil_Eric:  gnome3 is
[02:08] <Evil_Eric> is there any ubuntu that uses it
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> Evil_Eric: yes, the Ubuntu flavouruses it
[02:09] <Dr_Willis__> Evil_Eric:  i belive theres some out there. Check the disrtowatch homepage perhaps
[02:09] <briankb> hey guys, how do I tell nfsd to only listen on 127.0.0.1?  I read nfsd(8) and found --host paramter. Is there a configuration file where I can set that parameter?
[02:09] <Dr_Willis__> if you mean 'gnome2'
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> Evil_Eric: also, the ones made using GTK uses the new GTK3
[02:09] <delac> k1l: you sure about that modem-modeswitch or did you mean usb_modeswitch? also, I thought all udev rules are in /etc/udev/rules.d...
[02:09] <paul_> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> briankb: is there a config for it in /etc maybe
[02:10] <Dr_Willis__> paul_:  hd is failing/dead.. not a good sign
[02:10] <kroq-gar78> Is anybody having trouble accessing kernel.ubuntu.com?
[02:10] <Evil_Eric> thanks willis and parsnip
[02:10] <Dr_Willis__> paul_:  its POSSIBLE ddrescue may be able ti image the whold drive or partion to a file you could then recover
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> kroq-gar78: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[02:12] <Dr_Willis__> ActionParsnip:  but what if that site seems to be down for you also? ;)
[02:12] <briankb> ActionParsnip, I'm not at all familiar with nfs. The only configuration files I found that appear to be related are /etc/default/nfs-common
[02:12] <briankb> and /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis__: then the page will tell you :D
[02:12] <Dr_Willis__> briankb:  why do you need nfs to listen on 127.0.0.1 ?
[02:12] <kroq-gar78> ActionParsnip: ah thanks. I still want the git kernel tree, however. I'm not sure where it'd be hosted other than there... :(
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> kroq-gar78: there may be a PPA
[02:13] <paul_> when i have the created image, how im able to rescue the data of it? just mounting this image?
[02:13] <briankb> so that it cannot be accessed by other machines. I am testing an application which uses it locally (clonezilla)
[02:13] <briankb> it's on a server with a public IP
[02:15] <scarecrow> [xfce] i made a program launcher for panel 2 that runs sudo swapoff -a && sudo swapon -vda in terminal. when i click on it, a terminal window pops up asking for my password then closes upon entering. Neither command are being run (if i paste into terminal it works fine) whats going on?
[02:15] <kroq-gar78> ActionParsnip: true, but I doubt that'd hold a git tree... I'll check again if any of the ubuntu wiki docs mention this
[02:16] <scarecrow> it works without the && queue but then i would need a second button to turn swap back on
[02:16] <dsa> heys
[02:17] <dsa> question if i update release to 12.10 will i lose any of my data?
[02:17] <scarecrow> no
[02:17] <jrib> dsa: no, you shouldn't.  But you should have backups anyway.
[02:18] <dsa> thanks guys =)
[02:18] <kroq-gar78> scarecrow: maybe running "swapoff -a && swapon -vda" in a sudo shell might do it. So try "sudo sh -c 'swapoff -a && swapon -vda'"
[02:18] <scarecrow> thanx
[02:18] <dsa> all is good if i can access my data even if OS gets messed up
[02:18] <dsa> =)
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> dsa: your backups will protect your data
[02:19] <scarecrow> live linux to the rescue!
[02:19] <Dr_Willis__> backup your backups! ;)
[02:19] <dsa> hehe
[02:19] <Dr_Willis__> would that be a backupup or a backbackup?
[02:19] <scarecrow> any data you dont have backed up 3 times and stored seperately is data you dont care about
[02:20] <kroq-gar78> backupup because it sounds like "backup pup" :P
[02:20] <Dr_Willis__> thats what you tell your dog when you are trying to fill its bowl...
[02:20] <Dr_Willis__> ;P
[02:20] <scarecrow> yeah
[02:20] <Dr_Willis__> I just fed my dog. ;P  he was eating it as fast as i could put it in his bowl.
[02:20] <dsa> scarecrow, thats a good tip ^^ i should clean some of my hdds
[02:21] <dsa> XD
[02:22] <Dr_Willis__> !info xmame-x
[02:23] <scarecrow> kroq-gar78,  that did the trick thank you
[02:23] <Dr_Willis__> Hmm. so its a transitional package... transiting to what? ;)   Been in the mood for some Classic arcade action.
[02:24] <delac> k1l: it was modem-modeswitch. And THANK YOU VERY MUCH! (odd thing; the product id of the device changed after inserting that line...)
[02:24] <kroq-gar78> scarecrow: np ;) I think you have the dude on http://stackoverflow.com/questions/82256/how-do-i-use-sudo-to-redirect-output-to-a-location-i-dont-have-permission-to-wr to thank
[02:27]  * Evil_Eric waves bye bye to unity and hello to gnome 3 
[02:27] <scarecrow> i like xfce
[02:27] <Evil_Eric> i dont know what i like yet
[02:28] <scarecrow> KDE > Gnome
[02:28] <scarecrow> Gnome > Unity
[02:29] <scarecrow> I wouldnt have a problem with Unity if it didnt hide all my programs
[02:30] <Evil_Eric> i dont have any issues with unity but i wanna try everything and make a educated desision on what is the better ubuntu
[02:33] <paul_> why is unity ubuntu's default desktop environment? who uses this actually?
[02:33] <Evil_Eric> i do
[02:33] <jrib> !ot | paul_
[02:33] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[02:33] <Evil_Eric> or did
[02:34] <Guest39046> ew
[02:34] <Guest39046> sorry^
[02:34] <dsa> i think unity is nice
[02:34] <Wiz_KeeD> can anyone please tell me how to properly install ati video card drivers on ubuntu 12.04 lts 32 bit because my eyes bleed after about 10 minutes?
[02:34] <doomlord> unity is great
[02:34] <jrib> !ati | Wiz_KeeD
[02:34] <Wiz_KeeD> i previously had a 64 bit version
[02:34] <Wiz_KeeD> and i had no problems
[02:35] <dsa> too bad i cant run unity2d on one of my old desktops
[02:35] <dsa> =/
[02:35] <dsa> i mean with 12.10
[02:35] <doomlord> i have some fallback mode in 12.10 on a graphics card that doesn't run compiz
[02:35] <doomlord> it must be unity2d
[02:36] <dsa> mmm cool got to search then
[02:36] <XDS2012> is there a chinese ubuntu channel ?
[02:36] <jrib> !ch | XDS2012
[02:36] <janisozaur> !cn | XDS2012
[02:36] <jrib> erm oops
[02:36] <Dr_Willis__> doomlord:  12.10 dosent have unity2d
[02:36] <stobix> ooo, pretty characters...
[02:37] <hdon> Hi all :) I have some video DVDs (with the "DVD Video logo") but when I insert them, I get nothing. Trying to read /dev/sr0 says "No medium found" (ENOMEDIA is the errno to open(2)) and dmesg says nothing about it.
[02:37] <doomlord> my mistake. its gnome classic
[02:37] <Dr_Willis__> doomlord:  12.10 has a lvvm feautre of compiz for non3d supported devices
[02:37] <janisozaur> !jp | stobix
[02:37] <paul_> what's better .. ligttpd or nginx concerning php and mysql?
[02:37] <stobix> oo, japanese as well! :)
[02:37]  * stobix aspires to learn those languages some day...
[02:37] <Dr_Willis__> hdon:  ive seen dvd videos that have some nasty copy protection that prevents my pc from reading them. and older dvd players. ;( are you able toplay ANY dvd videos at all?
[02:37] <Wiz_KeeD> jrib, i have 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV710 [Mobility Radeon HD 4300 Series]
[02:38] <stobix> !ko stobix
[02:38] <XDS2012> anyone happen to have a copy of rockmelt for the iphone ?
[02:38] <stobix> eh? eh?
[02:38] <stobix> :/
[02:38] <doomlord> lvvm feature of compiz=?
[02:38] <XDS2012> or the first jawbone up version
[02:38] <jrib> !ot | XDS2012
[02:38] <stobix> !ko | stobix
[02:38] <doomlord> my graphics card runs 4 monitors, runs opengl fine - just not compiz
[02:38] <hdon> Dr_Willis__, yes. it works on every other DVD or CD i've used. except for these ones. my girlfriend's Windows laptop won't read them either. she borrowed them from a friend, who says they work for her just fine
[02:38] <stobix> meh. no korean then.
[02:38] <dsa> dooml0rd, i was searching earlier today about unity2d in 12.10 even asked around here but no success
[02:39] <Dr_Willis__> hdon:  welcome to  the new world of copy protection  that causes more pain for the legal users then the pirates.
[02:39] <Aud1enceOf1> Does anybody have the time to help with installing Ubuntu alongside Windows 8?
[02:39] <hdon> Dr_Willis__, preaching to the choir, friend
[02:39] <Dr_Willis__> hdon:  I had to get a new blueray player for the wife for hers to play. Or else rip them using dvdfab.
[02:39] <Dr_Willis__> or.. other methods. ;)
[02:40] <nacho68> ciao
[02:40] <slackin> hdon?! ..... did you used to play urt?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis__> hdon:  whats sad the uber-copy protection was on... 'Love Boat Season 1' such a pirated video ya know. ;)
[02:40] <nacho68> !list
[02:40] <hdon> Dr_Willis__, i'm curious about this issue. do you know of any good sources of information on this form of copy protection?
[02:40] <hdon> slackin, omg hey dude!
[02:40] <Dr_Willis__> hdon:  dvdfab has some other tools/things that can work in wine to get around the issue
[02:40] <hdon> slackin, i still play sometimes, but i'm on the west coast now, so, different servers :(
[02:41] <slackin> HAHA IT IS YOU!!!!! lol <3 how have you been dude? i havent seen you in years!!!
[02:41] <Dr_Willis__> nacho68:  so do you do a !list in every channel you join?
[02:41] <hdon> Dr_Willis__, any knowledge about how dvdfab works? because open(2) doesn't work
[02:41] <Aud1enceOf1> Can anybody help me install Ubuntu alongside Windows8?
[02:42] <hdon> slackin, i'm alright. i live in las vegas now. did i ever show you my urban terror player analysis hacks?
[02:42] <slackin> hdon, lol no, show me
[02:42] <hdon> slackin, i wrote some hacks for urban terror that would dump a bunch of player data, and then draw a diagram of it. i intended to use it to create a tool for play analysis, for individual or team tactics
[02:42] <hdon> slackin, i think it's http://codebad.com/urtplot
[02:42] <bazhang> !ot | hdon slackin
[02:42] <BluesKaj> stobix, do you ubuntu-restricted-extras installed , also run this for DRM work arounds , sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[02:43] <hdon> bazhang, sorry!
[02:44] <vamp774> dr_willis:  I agree so much with your comment regarding copy protection.....more pain to people who buy lol
[02:44] <emi68> ciao
[02:44] <emi68> !list
[02:45] <Aud1enceOf1> NEED HELP INSTALLING UBUNTU!
[02:45] <bazhang> Aud1enceOf1, lose the caps
[02:45] <bazhang> !dualboot | Aud1enceOf1
[02:46] <Aud1enceOf1> need help installing ubuntu....!
[02:46] <bazhang> Aud1enceOf1, READ the link above
[02:46] <Aud1enceOf1> i've tried different forums but i think i messed it up when installing the first time
[02:47] <bazhang> Aud1enceOf1, I just gave you a link. Read it.
[02:47] <BluesKaj> Aud1enceOf1, we already know you need help , a few details would help even more
[02:47] <Aud1enceOf1> The first time i tried to install alongside i changed how much space each OS would have but cancelled in the middle
[02:48] <Aud1enceOf1> now i dont have the option to install along windows
[02:48] <Dr_Willis__> delete any existing linux partions..
[02:48] <Aud1enceOf1> where do i do that from?
[02:48] <Dr_Willis__> and use the unallocated space to partion/install into.. assuming you didenbt cancle during the resizeing operaion.
[02:49] <Aud1enceOf1> i did cancel during the resizing operation
[02:49] <anonymous> hi
[02:49] <Dr_Willis__> the installr should have some options to manually partion. or use gparted from a live cd to delete any existing linux partions. ext2/3/4 and swap
[02:49] <Dr_Willis__> then restart the installer.
[02:49] <xoanrc> como hacer un listado de canales???????????'
[02:49] <Dr_Willis__> Aud1enceOf1:  you are lucky the sytem even boots if you did that
[02:50] <Dr_Willis__> i would suggest doing a FULL backup of your wndows setup and imporntant data files..  befor you break things badly.
[02:50] <Dr_Willis__> assuming windows is working correctly
[02:50] <BluesKaj> !es>xoanrc
[02:50] <Aud1enceOf1> ha will do...and yes everything is working fine...i can boot from the live cd and everything...i do have the option to resize partitions but just not exactly sure of what to make them
[02:51] <Dr_Willis__> Aud1enceOf1:  typical linux install has a swap partition and a / partition.
[02:51] <Dr_Willis__> Aud1enceOf1:  more are usefull but not required.
[02:51] <Aud1enceOf1> use them both?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis__> you DO want at least a / and a swap
[02:51] <Dr_Willis__> swap is normally ram + a little bit more these days.
[02:52] <Dr_Willis__> unless you know you dont need much swap. ;)
[02:52] <Hwkiller-thinkpa> you generally want swap, /, and /home
[02:53] <Aud1enceOf1> awesome...thank you...off to do so now
[02:53] <gzh> i can't use windows live in empathy who can help me
[02:53] <almoxarife> Dr_Willis__: hibernate goes to swap, yes?
[02:53] <OpenSorce> So... when the Steam client for Linux comes out of beta do you think you guys will probably get a lot busier since they are designing it for Ubuntu 12.04?
[02:53] <Dr_Willis__> almoxarife:  yea somthing like that.. i never use suspend/hibernate/sleep ;)
[02:53] <Dr_Willis__> OpenSorce:  we allready get dozen questions about it a day
[02:54] <Dr_Willis__> OpenSorce:  i imagine ther ewill need to be a #ubuntu-steam channel. ;P
[02:54] <Dr_Willis__> !steam
[02:54] <OpenSorce> Dr_Willis__, Yeah, I imagine
[02:54] <Dr_Willis__> Heh../ there allready is.
[02:54] <Dr_Willis__> :P
[02:54] <Dr_Willis__> i tend to buy way too much stuff on steam sales..
[02:55] <OpenSorce> Dr_Willis__, Even Stallman had something vaguely positive to say about it, I was shocked
[02:55] <Dr_Willis__> Stallman is becomming 'Grumpy old man' ;)
[02:55] <OpenSorce> Dr_Willis__, wasn't he always? I mean even in the early days?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis__> but with steam and netflix now working on linux.. i am finding less reasons to boot to windows.
[02:56] <OpenSorce> Dr_Willis__, Netflix works on Linux or just on Chromebooks?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis__> OpenSorce:  theres a .deb that uses wine and has ti working on normal ubuntu now
[02:56] <Dr_Willis__> OpenSorce:  im suprised that wasent front page in all the blog sites..
[02:56] <OpenSorce> Dr_Willis__, Oh my....
[02:56] <Dr_Willis__> !netflix
[02:56] <trung`> cool!
[02:56] <OpenSorce> Dr_Willis__, I must find this!
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> omg really?
[02:57] <OpenSorce> Squee!!
[02:57] <Dr_Willis__> been workinmg here for the last week or 2
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> noice
[02:57] <Dr_Willis__> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/tag/netflix
[02:57] <Evil_Eric> mmmmm netflix
[02:57] <Dr_Willis__> it IS an UNOFFICIAL way to do it.. so it could break i imagine
[02:58] <Dr_Willis__> and its a little quirky. but it does work
[02:58] <Evil_Eric> i think i was the first person here checking it out after actionparsnip pointed it out to me
[02:58] <Dr_Willis__> grandson put in quite a few hours of "Dora the Explorer" through it yesterday ;)
[02:59] <Evil_Eric> ive watched the entire breaking bad stuff through it
[02:59] <Evil_Eric> well season 1 anyway
[03:00] <OpenSorce> Dr_Willis__, I was typing so fast trying to add the ppa and and install that I had to redo it twice :-P
[03:00] <SolarisBoy> haha
[03:01] <OpenSorce> Finally Netflix on Linux, I can actually watch movies without having to pay Amazon Prime $79 :-P
[03:01] <Dr_Willis__> i did notice that with it - netflix does auto go to the next show.. i use my roku/other players so much tha ive never noticed that feature befor. ;)
[03:01] <Dr_Willis__> OpenSorce:  amazon prime has a montly plan now alwo
[03:01] <Dr_Willis__> also.
[03:01] <OpenSorce> Dr_Willis__, Not anymore
[03:01] <SolarisBoy> i watch them on my gtv but thats getting boring i always wanted them on my desktop
[03:02] <Dr_Willis__> OpenSorce:  they just started doing it like last month i thought.. they allready got rid of it? ;P
[03:02] <SolarisBoy> and my desktop is like in a better position than my tv for looking at movies
[03:02] <OpenSorce> Dr_Willis__, trust me I've spent hours in chat and on the phone with them about that, yeah they already stopped it
[03:02] <Evil_Eric> hi [entropy]
[03:02] <Mephistophilus> Isn't netflix based on M$ tech which has been left unsupported for years already in light of the past success of flash and even more so insignificant now with html5?
[03:03] <Hwkiller-thinkpa> Mephistophilus: you mean silverlight? yes
[03:03] <OpenSorce> Mephistophilus, yeah Netflix has vowed to switch to html5 eventually as well
[03:03] <lotus2015> I got "
[03:03] <lotus2015> "** (plymouthd:234): WARNING **: Command line 'dbus-launch --autolaunch=08ddf3fcf038ec-----008 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited witn non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n" " when I upgraded xorg to 1.12.4 from 1.11.3
[03:03] <lotus2015> Please help me.
[03:03] <Hwkiller-thinkpa> xit
[03:03] <Hwkiller-thinkpa> exit
[03:03] <Hwkiller-thinkpa> gah, sorry!
[03:04] <OpenSorce> Dr_Willis__, You absolutely made my day today...
[03:04] <SolarisBoy> mine too secretly
[03:05] <Dr_Willis__> OpenSorce:  now you can go watch all the SpongeBob shows. ;)
[03:06] <OpenSorce> Dr_Willis__, grr... it says "please enable the user_xattr option for your filesystem and try again." when I try to install, gotta remember how to fix that
[03:06] <SolarisBoy> fstab
[03:07] <OpenSorce> SolarisBoy, yeah I figured. Fstab edit and a reboot I guess
[03:07] <SolarisBoy> nah remount if relevant i guess
[03:07] <SolarisBoy> or reboot if not yea =)
[03:08] <Dr_Willis__> OpenSorce:  never seen that error/message - just using normal ext4 here
[03:08] <SolarisBoy> i already use xattr for file caching so it *should work i guess
[03:09] <OpenSorce> Dr_Willis__, "It appears that you do not have extended file system attributes enabled, please enable the user_xattr option for your filesystem and try again." is the whole message, no reason not to enable it I guess
[03:09] <eternalsword> kernel.ubuntu.com ppa appears to be offline, or is it just my network?
[03:09] <bazhang> eternalsword, its offline
[03:10] <Dr_Willis__> cat must have tripped over the power cord again. ;)
[03:10] <eternalsword> bazhang: do you know if it's temporary or permanent?
[03:11] <bazhang> no idea
[03:13] <BlueProtoman> When trying to upgrade from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04, I get this error; "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'"
[03:13] <BlueProtoman> Any tips?
[03:13] <jakr> BlueProtoman, calculating what?
[03:14] <BlueProtoman> The packages to upgrade, I guess.
[03:14] <BlueProtoman> *jakr:
[03:14] <ccommallama> my rfkill is listing my iface as hw blocked.. unblock isn't working. the physical key has been hijacked by some de daemon and now i can't get my wifi back on... ideas?
[03:14] <OpenSorce> Just to make sure I'm not doing it wrong, when enabling user_xattr I should change "UUID=c5e074ce-abf1-4933-b957-76109dc67254 /               ext3    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1" to "UUID=c5e074ce-abf1-4933-b957-76109dc67254 /               ext3    relatime,user_xattr,errors=remount-ro 0       1" right?
[03:15] <SolarisBoy> OpenSorce: looks ok to me
[03:15] <jc> there's any solution for virtualbox kernel Version 3.2.0-33.52:
[03:16] <OpenSorce> SolarisBoy, thanks been a awhile since I edited fstab, should I need to do it for the /home partition too you think?
[03:17] <SolarisBoy> not sure in concern to what netflix wants it for =( OpenSorce
[03:17] <OpenSorce> SolarisBoy, either way won't hurt to enable it for both I guess
[03:17] <BlueProtoman> Anyone?  Issues upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04?
[03:17] <SolarisBoy> OpenSorce: nopes
[03:17] <OpenSorce> brb
[03:17] <jrib> BlueProtoman: just ask your actual question
[03:18] <BlueProtoman> jrib: I did.  "When trying to upgrade from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04, I get this error; "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'"  Any tips on fixing this?"
[03:18] <jrib> BlueProtoman: people that just join the channel will only see "Anyone?  Issues upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04?".  That's why it's better to just wait a reasonable amount of time and repeat the question in full
[03:19] <BlueProtoman> jrib: Understood.
[03:19] <jrib> BlueProtoman: it should point you to some update manager logs with more details, you can usually get a better idea of what packages are causing the issue that way
[03:20] <jrib> BlueProtoman: or it may even offer more details directly in the GUI, I don't recall
[03:22] <BlueProtoman> jrib: Where exactly can I find these logs?
[03:23] <jrib> BlueProtoman: I don't know offhand.  Did the error message not mention them?
[03:23] <megharsh> is there any need to harden ubuntu or it is secure withought it ?
[03:23] <BlueProtoman> jrib: No, it didn't.  Wanna see my sudo apt-get update/upgrade?
[03:24] <jrib> BlueProtoman: uh, is there something unusual happening when you do apt-get update/upgrade?
[03:24] <BlueProtoman> jrib: Define "unusual."  I don't think so, but...
[03:24] <jrib> BlueProtoman: check /var/log/dist-upgrade/
[03:25] <jrib> BlueProtoman: you can pastebin the apt-get update/upgrade if you want as well
[03:25] <BlueProtoman> jrib: Here's my /var/log/dist-upgrade.  http://pastebin.com/1aX6VrWR
[03:26] <jrib> BlueProtoman: what file is this exactly?
[03:26] <BlueProtoman> /var/log/dist-upgrade/20121124-2211/main.log
[03:26] <BlueProtoman> Here is my sudo apt-get update; http://pastebin.com/uXyPUJfp
[03:27] <jrib> BlueProtoman: get apt.log from that directory
[03:27] <BlueProtoman> jrib: This is my sudo apt-get upgrade; http://pastebin.com/8j3ZT2Ut
[03:28] <BlueProtoman> jrib: And my apt.log is tiny.  http://pastebin.com/kZFFw7he
[03:28] <jrib> BlueProtoman: it's strange that your sources point to precise if you are on oneiric
[03:28] <delac> any way to reload udev rules on 12.04 without booting (done: sudo service udev reastart/reload; sudo udevadm control --reload-rules)?
[03:29] <BlueProtoman> jrib: I tried to upgrade, but the client suddenly closed while it was running.  That's probably what it is.
[03:29] <jrib> BlueProtoman: change the sources back to oneiric and try again, then check the latest apt.log again
[03:30] <BlueProtoman> jrib: How can I quickly do that?  I have a lot of PPAs.
[03:30] <jrib> delac: that udevadm command should do it afaik
[03:31] <jrib> delac: (even though the man page says changes should be detected automatically)
[03:31] <jrib> BlueProtoman: just disable the PPAs, they should be disable anyway
[03:31] <jrib> BlueProtoman: (for the upgrade)
[03:33] <BlueProtoman> jrib: sudo apt-get update
[03:33] <BlueProtoman> http://pastebin.com/0qyay9mz
[03:33] <jrib> BlueProtoman: also, I just realized that /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log might be the latest and that it then gets archived to a directory on later runs
[03:34] <jrib> BlueProtoman: why do you have natty repositories?
[03:34] <BlueProtoman> jrib: sudo apt-get upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/1384348/
[03:35] <BlueProtoman> jrib: I don't know.  I have a lot of PPAs, and some of the software I wanted wasn't available for 11.10.
[03:35] <jrib> megharsh: depends what you do with it...
[03:35] <jrib> BlueProtoman: but we agreed to disable the PPAs
[03:36] <BlueProtoman> jrib: Ah, yes, right, silly me.  Let's try again.
[03:36] <jrib> BlueProtoman: brb
[03:36] <BlueProtoman> jrib: OK.
[03:37] <mikubuntu> anybody know why i'm getting a lot of error msgs on various webvideos since recent updates?  http://imagebin.org/237107
[03:38] <jrib> BlueProtoman: ok
[03:39] <BlueProtoman> jrib: I disabled all the sources except the official ones.  sudo apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/1384350/
[03:40] <megharsh> jrib: if i am using it for a production machine then ?
[03:40] <BlueProtoman> jrib: sudo apt-get upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/1384351/
[03:41] <jrib> BlueProtoman: you should get rid of the duplicates mentioned
[03:42] <jrib> megharsh: same answer
[03:42] <gaby_> hello - any body can help me with my CD drive
[03:42] <gaby_> i cant find it
[03:43] <xoanrc> hello from spain
[03:44] <BlueProtoman> jrib: Where exactly can I do that?  The Software Center doesn't seem to be helping.
[03:44] <jrib> megharsh: basically, you shouldn't find some stupid configuration that lets anyone get root on your box but how much/what you want exposed is something that depends on *your* needs and wants
[03:44] <jrib> BlueProtoman: just edit /etc/apt/sources.list* directly
[03:46] <gaby_> hello - any body can help me with my cd drive - i cant find it
[03:47] <BlueProtoman> jrib: Ah-ha!  Done.  Now let's try upgrading.
[03:47] <rsvp> gaby_, look about one-third down on your desktop :)
[03:48] <gaby_> rsvp: i dont know what you say - guide me please
[03:48] <megharsh> ok jrib :)
[03:48] <megharsh> jrib: do you know any source or link from where i can learm more about ubuntu hardning ?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis__> gaby_:  giving us details would help...
[03:49] <BlueProtoman> jrib: Hrmm.  The Update Manager crashed while running again.  sudo apt-get update reveals this; http://paste.ubuntu.com/1384361/
[03:49] <jrib> BlueProtoman: heh
[03:50] <BlueProtoman> jrib: And this is sudo apt-get upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/1384363/
[03:50] <jrib> BlueProtoman: pastebin /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log
[03:51] <jrib> megharsh: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html most of that is likely relevant to ubuntu.  Check help.ubuntu.com/community for more
[03:53] <BlueProtoman> jrib: apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1384366/
[03:53] <BlueProtoman> jrib: main.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1384368/
[03:53] <megharsh> thanks jrib :)
[03:54] <jrib> megharsh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security seems like a good place to start too
[04:01] <jrib> BlueProtoman: remove the "libcv-dev" package and try the upgrade again (you might need to revert the sources.list back to oneiric again; not sure.  Feel free to try and see what it does without doing so)
[04:04] <gaby_> dr_willis_ : i have ubuntu 12.04 - i installed it today and i updated the system - before and after updating - i cant find my DVD/CD drive in my system and i cant open it
[04:04] <BlueProtoman> jrib: In progress.
[04:04] <jrib> BlueProtoman: ok, my connection is kind of flaky atm...
[04:05] <megharsh> jrib: is their some kind of wiki for ubuntu ?
[04:05] <BlueProtoman> jrib: That's all right.
[04:06] <jrib> megharsh: help.ubuntu.com/community is the wik
[04:06] <jrib> i
[04:06] <Dr_Willis__> gaby_:  what sort of cd are you trying to access? have you tried mounting it by hand?
[04:06] <megharsh> ok jrib :)
[04:07] <gaby_> Dr_Willis_ : i have tried every thing
[04:07] <megharsh> jrib: can we download the help.ubuntu.com/community for offline use ?
[04:07] <Dr_Willis__> gaby_:  thats vague.. and if true.. would point to broken hardware basically. ;)
[04:07] <jrib> megharsh: I don't know about that
[04:08] <megharsh> jrib: ok
[04:08] <Dr_Willis__> gaby_:   What kind of cd are you trying to access? a Music cd? a Data cd? One you burnt?
[04:08] <gaby_> Dr_Willis_ : its working very fine with windows xp
[04:08] <jrib> megharsh: maybe try #ubuntu-doc
[04:09] <gaby_> Dr_Willis_: is saying SAMSUNG
[04:10] <gaby_> Dr_willis_ : iam not able to open the HARD DRIVE by it  self - and i cant see it on my home
[04:10] <Dr_Willis__> I think you are jumping around to differnt issues/thins.. you said it was a  CD/DVD... so how did 'Hard Drive' get into this?
[04:11] <BlueProtoman> jrib: All right!  Upgrade's a green light!  Thank you so much for helping me out here!
[04:12] <Chaos7Theory> Something I was wondering. What's the differences between the vim-minimal package and vim, and would installing vim with vim-minimal being there by default cause conflcits?
[04:12] <jrib> BlueProtoman: no problem.  After the upgrade completes, if you still want that -dev package, just try to install it again.  It may just work, it may have been replaced/renamed, or there may be some issue with it
[04:12] <BlueProtoman> jrib: No problem.  You da man.  Have a good night!
[04:12] <Dr_Willis__> vim replaces vim-minimal Chaos7Theory
[04:12] <GNUHerd> I am not trying to be mean, to you or anyone involved with Ubuntu.
[04:13] <GNUHerd> But PEOPLE DIED when a software error crashed Air France 447.
[04:13] <Dr_Willis__> Chaos7Theory:  vim-minimal i think used to be the default. it had some features missing. I  may be thinking of vim vs vim-full however..
[04:13] <GNUHerd> And as much as I recognize you have done nothing to me, I know the right thing is to speak up.
[04:13] <jrib> !ot | GNUHerd
[04:13] <GNUHerd> Even though I see the right thing to do is hurtful to others, I will not allow myself to compromise on my principles.
[04:13] <GNUHerd> Read these in order.
[04:13] <GNUHerd> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at-spi/+bug/562776
[04:13] <GNUHerd> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/863054
[04:13] <GNUHerd> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/708493
[04:13] <FloodBot1> GNUHerd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <Chaos7Theory> Well, vim-minimal is installed by default with 12.10
[04:14] <briankb> ActionParsnip, btw I just ended up writing an iptables rule so nfs couldn't be reached externally
[04:14] <alusion> How can I be security conscious when setting up and configuring my mysql-server.
[04:16] <Chaos7Theory> Oh, vim-minimal is referred to as vim-tiny on Ubuntu.
[04:16] <Dr_Willis__> Chaos7Theory:  ;)
[04:17] <Dr_Willis__> I recall  it used to be vim-tiny and 'vim-full' but the name maybe just 'vim' these days
[04:17] <OpenSorce> Dr_Willis__, Well the netflix thing works but it's a bit choppy gonna try with a lighter weight DE, maybe LXDE of XFCE
[04:17] <Dr_Willis__> ages ago one of he first things i did was install the complete vim package. oherwise i did not get arrow key support, or code coloring features
[04:18] <Dr_Willis__> OpenSorce:  what do you expect from wine running firefox ;)
[04:18] <odul> hi
[04:19] <stobix_> hm. how do I enable java in firefox? I have the latest openJDK installed.
[04:20] <killer> hi....i have enabled command line login ...using startx......but startx loads the default desktop.....how do i change the default desktop ?
[04:21] <Dr_Willis__> killer:  alter your .dmrc or make a custome .xsession file
[04:21] <Dr_Willis__> or was it .xinitrc (it used to be .xinitrc)
[04:22] <Chaos7Theory> Uninstalling vim-tiny wants me to in turn remove ubuntu-minimal. ._.
[04:22] <Chaos7Theory> stobix: You also need to install IcedTea
[04:22] <Dr_Willis__> Chaos7Theory:  if you are installing a bigger vim - you dont need to remove vim-tiny it will auto remove it i imagine
[04:22] <stobix_> Chaos7Theory: Ah, thanks.
[04:23] <Dr_Willis__> and removeing anything from a meta-package like ubuntu-minimal will remove the meta poackage
[04:23] <Chaos7Theory> Dr_Willies__: It didn't remove it, and the gui version doesn't work because of it.
[04:23] <Dr_Willis__> its not a big deal.
[04:23] <Dr_Willis__> Chaos7Theory:  thats odd.. what gui version?
[04:23] <Chaos7Theory> Dr_Willis__: It seems vim comes with a GUI vim 'gvim', but it doesn't think it exists considering vim-tiny is still there I imagine.
[04:24] <killer> Dr_Willis__: i think it's .xinitrc file
[04:24] <Dr_Willis__> killer:  i think that got changed like a year ago.. but it may look for both ;)
[04:24] <trism> Chaos7Theory: you need vim-gtk or vim-gnome to get gvim, it doesn't come with vim
[04:24] <Chaos7Theory> tsism: Ah, thanks.
[04:24] <Dr_Willis__> !fixapt
[04:24] <Chaos7Theory> trism*
[04:25] <megharsh> how can i download https://help.ubuntu.com/community for offline use ?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis__> hmm.. instslling gvim should pull in those if it needs them
[04:25] <Dr_Willis__> !info httrack | megharsh
[04:26] <Chaos7Theory> trism: What'd be the difference between vim-gtk and vim-gnome?
[04:26] <delac> ok, my new clean installation does not get EVEN to grub unless the installation live-usb is inserted and I boot from it. what?
[04:26] <Dr_Willis__> Hmm..gvim expects me to pick btween the vim-gtk or vim-gnome or vim-athena
[04:27] <Dr_Willis__> those must use differnt gui  libs. :)
[04:27] <trism> Chaos7Theory: not much really, -gnome has some startup notify stuff
[04:27] <OpenSorce> ubotu !netflix
[04:27] <OpenSorce> I did it wrong
[04:27] <Dr_Willis__> -gnome would use gtk3 these days wouldent it? gtk may be the older widgit set?
[04:27] <megharsh> Dr_Willis__: will it download the whole documentation for me ?
[04:27] <Dr_Willis__> !netflix | OpenSorce
[04:28] <Dr_Willis__> megharsh:  its a web site mirroring tool...
[04:28] <trism> no still use gtk2
[04:28] <Dr_Willis__> vim-gtk is about 10mb less of a download here. ;)
[04:29] <megharsh> Dr_Willis__: ok :)
[04:31] <Chaos7Theory> From what I've seen in synpatic, vim-gnome has the Ubuntu logo/icon next to it, whereas vim-gtk lacks that. That means vim-gnome is officially supported, but vim-gtk isn't.
[04:32] <trism> Chaos7Theory: yeah vim-gtk is in universe, there is that difference too
[04:32] <trism> though they are all built from the same source package, so not much difference really
[04:32] <Chaos7Theory> They really should make synaptic installed by default alongside Ubuntu Software Center ._.
[04:33] <ahoneybun> Chaos7Theory, was for a bit, but they are scared of people destroying their PC's lol
[04:34] <otend> err... I appear to have been forced to drop to tty.  lightdm is completely broken right now.
[04:34] <otend> and I'm not entirely sure what to do
[04:35] <ahoneybun> otend, well... you could try to install gdm and replace lightdm
[04:35] <ipup> xdm, gdm and kdm
[04:35] <otend> well, to be completely honest, I'm not sure it's lightdm itself.  weirdly, I have a mouse pointer, but nothing else except for tty.  is it the display manager, most likely?
[04:36] <ipup> session manager
[04:36] <ahoneybun> fall back to twm?
[04:36] <otend> how would I go about doing that?
[04:36] <ipup> twm is a window manager
[04:36] <otend> ...oh.
[04:37] <otend> so, remove lightdm and install gdm, correct?
[04:37] <ahoneybun> ipup, I remember some thing in Arch on time like that, just thinking out load
[04:37] <ahoneybun> loud
[04:37] <hen> hi, I installed python 2.7 and now Ubuntu 10.04 won't boot, anyone know what I should do?
[04:37] <ipup> you you like twm, you should try fvwm and it's used widely in bsd world
[04:38] <ipup> fvwm is scriptable also
[04:38] <ahoneybun> ipup, I don't like it, it is just used to test if I had a working X11
[04:38] <ahoneybun> system
[04:38] <megharsh> if i have a package how can i distinguish that it's an ubuntu package ?
[04:38] <ahoneybun> megharsh, like a Deb file you mean?
[04:39] <otend> what's somewhat amusing is that I now have a mouse with no conceivable use
[04:39] <bluegrass> does anyone here love me?  i need love ._.
[04:39] <otend> I THINK this may have to do with me removing Bumblebee.
[04:39] <ahoneybun> bluegrass, not a bluegrass music fan, but sure!!
[04:39] <megharsh> ahoneybun: i meant to say it's original ubuntu's package or some of it's derivative packgage for eg mint
[04:39] <bluegrass> oh, ok :>
[04:39] <bluegrass> thanks Aha2Y
[04:39] <bluegrass> ahoneybun
[04:39] <bluegrass> aho-tab :p
[04:40] <ahoneybun> megharsh, mint and ubuntu use same packages they work on either it is just a pure debian package will not always work on them both
[04:40] <OpenSorce> Dr_Willis__, the netflix thing starts ff for windows under wine in kiosk mode for some reason, but you hit F11 it fixes that
[04:41] <ahoneybun> ipup, bumblebee is that nvidia gpu right?
[04:41] <ipup> i have no idea
[04:41] <ahoneybun> otend, if it is a nvidia gpu driver then yes
[04:41] <otend> Nvidia switcher, yes
[04:41] <megharsh> ahoneybun: ok , i want to work debian packages i have to convert it into ubuntu package to make it work ?
[04:41] <otend> I probably should have thought this through.
[04:41] <hen> anyone know about python dependencies and how to recover Ubuntu 10.04 if it won't fully boot after installing python 2.7? Thanks in advance
[04:42] <ahoneybun> otend, I would reinstall that driver package for bumblebee as it handles the display
[04:42] <ahoneybun> and then reboot
[04:42] <otend> sad thing is, I actually followed their guide to removing it.  that's a pretty bad sign.
[04:43] <ahoneybun> megharsh,  so you have a pure debian package and want to work it on ubuntu?
[04:43] <ahoneybun> otend, why did you remove it? and what was the name of it?
[04:43] <killer> anyone knows how to set left cursor in xmonad ?
[04:43] <megharsh> ahoneybun: ya
[04:44] <killer> anyone knows how to set cursor default as left cursor in xmonad ?
[04:44] <otend> I removed it because Optirun didn't play very nicely with Steam.  I purged the PPA as instructed by the guide for removal, followed by manually removing the packages bumblebee and bumblebee-nvidia, as well as virtualgl
[04:44] <otend> which was probably not my best idea
[04:44] <ahoneybun> megharsh, well, I think you need to get the source code and compile it for ubuntu
[04:44] <otend> could you do me a huge favor and throw the ppa at me?
[04:44] <hen> could anyone possibly help? or should I ask elsewhere? as my main system now won't start :(
[04:44] <megharsh> ahoneybun: do you have any wiki or link about how to do it ?
[04:44] <ahoneybun> otend, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable
[04:45] <ahoneybun> hen, I saw your post and have been thinking about it
[04:45] <otend> thank you much
[04:45] <ahoneybun> otend, sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia linux-headers-generic
[04:45] <hen> ahoneybun, thank you for your help
[04:46] <ahoneybun> hen, what do you have on your screen at boot up?
[04:46] <ahoneybun> megharsh, compiling?
[04:46] <megharsh> yes compiling from source.
[04:46] <hen> ahoneybun, just a ubuntu logo with the loading dots, if try to boot into recovery mode, it shows the booting logs, and gets stuck with a blinking console cursor after a certain point
[04:47] <ahoneybun> hen when you get to the loading dots, hit ctrl+F1
[04:47] <ahoneybun> see if it get you to tty
[04:47] <hen> ok
[04:48] <ahoneybun> megharsh, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[04:48] <hen> i tried ctrl-alt-f1 but nothing
[04:48] <Rosbuntu> does anyone have any idea how to rescue the files from lost+found folder?
[04:48] <hen> I'll give ctrl-f1 a try
[04:49] <hen> Rosbuntu: take a look here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2115/whats-lostfound-and-where-did-it-come-from
[04:49] <ahoneybun> Rosbuntu, well it seems the root created that folder
[04:49] <Rosbuntu> ahoneybun yep , and how do i get my files back
[04:49] <hen> ahoneybun: should I uninstall python 2.7 (which I installed using the deadsnake repo) using apt? or do something else from the tty
[04:50] <ahoneybun> Rosbuntu, well open a terminal and run su and use "cp -r ""whatever file you want"" " I believe
[04:51] <Rosbuntu> ahoneybun i cant go into that folder how do i know the name of the file into that folder
[04:51] <ahoneybun> hen, undo what you did, so yes and then reboot
[04:51] <ahoneybun> Rosbuntu, as root you can from the terminal
[04:51] <megharsh> thanks ahoneybun :)
[04:51] <ahoneybun> megharsh, good luck, np :)
[04:51] <Rosbuntu> ahoneybun im completely new, plz tell me the whole process
[04:51] <hen> ahoneybun: thank you, and I'll give it a try. Brb
[04:52] <ahoneybun> Rosbuntu, oh ok, open a terminal from the dash
[04:52] <ahoneybun> hen, np tell me if it works
[04:53] <Rosbuntu> ahoneybun ok hold on. lemme go to linux
[04:53] <Rosbuntu> stay here
[04:53] <ahoneybun> Rosbuntu, and run the "sudo cp -r ""whatever file"" " I believe
[04:54] <ahoneybun> Rosbuntu, http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fileman.html
[04:57] <ahoneybun> chillpill_, nice name
[05:02] <megharsh> can i run openbox on my ubuntu 12.10 ?
[05:03] <ahoneybun> megharsh, of course! just install it
[05:03] <ipup> run openbox apps as root?
[05:03] <megharsh> ahoneybun: ok :)
[05:03] <tripelb> I put it into on my Mac and it will not see my wireless. It does see the other people's Wireless just fine.
[05:04] <megharsh> ipup: why as root ?
[05:04] <megharsh> ipup: i don't think we need to
[05:04] <ahoneybun> tripelb, put ubuntu on it?
[05:05] <tripelb> ahoneybun: yes I am in the oven to channel it.
[05:05] <tripelb> nooo
[05:05] <tripelb> nooo
[05:05] <tripelb> I'm typing with voice
[05:05] <ahoneybun> lol
[05:05] <tripelb> I am in the Ubuntu channel. Yes I am have Ubuntu  on the computer yes
[05:06] <tripelb> livecd
[05:06] <ahoneybun> tripelb, oh ok a live cd.
[05:06] <tripelb> also to install Ubuntu on my friends Windows computer it looks like we have to be connected to the wired internet in order to do that. Is that true.
[05:07] <Th3Pun15h3r> you need some kind of active internet connection i though
[05:07] <Th3Pun15h3r> t
[05:07] <tripelb> and my third concern is. I am an idiot so I understand no more well. But I don't know anything about unity. What do I do
[05:08] <Th3Pun15h3r> unity is pretty easy to use
[05:08] <ipup> for dummies
[05:08] <tripelb> Th3Pun15h3r: so you can install Ubuntu with the wireless hotspot like Starbucks
[05:08] <Th3Pun15h3r> ya as long as it finds your wifi adapter/card
[05:08] <tripelb> I'm no dummy. That's my problem.
[05:09] <tripelb> leaving the Unity problem for another time. Understanding that I can use a wireless hotspot. Let's go to my problem with my Mac
[05:09] <ipup> i always cut off the internet when i am istalling ubuntu then i find something insteresting
[05:09] <tripelb> I'm using my phone as wireless hotspot my Mac we will see neighborhood computers but it won't see my wireless hotspot. I'm talking about with the live CD. I appreciate your help
[05:10] <tripelb> Cool I didn't have to make 1 Correction to that
[05:11] <ipup> i don't trust netinstall ways because you don't know what's injected on the fly
[05:11] <tripelb> If we could fix this and I could be the internet from my with Ubuntu then I could learn Unity
[05:12] <tripelb> ipup: for you saying that to me?
[05:13] <tripelb> ipup: WERE you saying that to me?
[05:13] <Abraham> can anyone tell me how do i rescue files from lost+found folders
[05:13] <Zach___> Hello Everyone, I'm having an issue installing kubuntu. Well, kubuntu is installed fine, I think the issue is with Grub, because the Windows boot loader shows up, even though I know Grub is installed with kubuntu. Any ideas
[05:13] <tripelb> The live CD says that in order to install you need to have an internet connection. That's all I know.
[05:14] <tripelb> so is there anyway I can understand what the Mac does not see my wifi signal but it does see my neighbors
[05:15] <Zach___> I'm going creazy with this. I originally had Archlinux installed, then I wiped it, then had an issue with the original grub installed, so I resored the bootloader using a windows restore disk, now I cannot get grub to install for the life of me.
[05:15] <Th3Pun15h3r> not for sure unless its using a generic wifi driver might have to wait till you can install the actual drivers for it either with the ndiswrapper or get the actual linux driver
[05:15] <Abraham> can anyone tell me how do i rescue files from lost+found folder plz
[05:15] <[deXter]> Abraham, Just copy-paste them
[05:15] <Zach___> I tried using wubi and the liveCD install (from flash drive)
[05:16] <[deXter]> Zach___, Don't use wubi, it only messes things up
[05:16] <Abraham> [deXter]:  u mean copy the lost+ found then paste them where
[05:16] <[deXter]> Abraham, Well paste them whereever you want to
[05:16] <Th3Pun15h3r> anyone used bodhi or wattos?
[05:16] <tripelb> you see I have a 1 terabyte EXTERNAL drive ( Internal is only 80 gigs) and it's written in the EXT 4 so I need Ubuntu because even with fancy program installed the Mac will not see the Ubuntu partition on my hard drive
[05:16] <Th3Pun15h3r> wondering if either is better than lubuntu for a lightweight 64 bit os
[05:17] <[deXter]> Zach___, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[05:17] <roneythomas6> xubuntu is better than lubuntu
[05:17] <Abraham> [deXter]:  i cant copy the files inside lost+found folder.. but  i only can copy the lost+folder
[05:17] <Abraham> should i do that?
[05:17] <[deXter]> Th3Pun15h3r, I've used bodhi and don't think it's lighter than lubuntu, plus E17 is still under heavy development, not suitable for daily usage, if you ask me.
[05:17] <tripelb> all caps dash don't use WUBI
[05:17] <tenX> tripelb: wlan n mode maybe
[05:17] <GNUHerd> Abraham: Your Ubuntu install has 3rd party software. Bug report ignored.
[05:17] <Ryan`> ^
[05:17] <Th3Pun15h3r> xubuntu still runs slow on the laptop I currently use crunchbang
[05:18] <Ryan`> A valid bug report requires you to be running completely vanilla ubuntu install
[05:18] <Zach___> I can install this from windows?
[05:18] <tripelb> tenX: what does that mean please. it's a vanilla live CD
[05:18] <[deXter]> Zach___, it's a bootable CD, you can burn it using any OS you want to. (Or you can make it into a bootable USB)
[05:18] <Ryan`> Zach___ if you do you will not receive any community support
[05:18] <roneythomas6> USER Preflex welcome
[05:19] <[deXter]> Th3Pun15h3r, what's your laptop
[05:19] <[deXter]> 's specs?
[05:19] <Ryan`> If you'd like to receive community support you are not allowed to have any 3rd party software installed
[05:19] <Abraham> [deXter]:  it says cant enter inside the folder lost+found
[05:19] <GNUHerd> Zach___: please be sure to read the rules of this channel
[05:19] <[deXter]> Abraham, you'll need to enter it as root
[05:19] <Zach___> Okay, then what should I do then?
[05:20] <tenX> tripelb: only a guess your wlan being on n frequences while your wlan card/driver doesnt support that. would explain why other networks show up
[05:20] <Abraham> [deXter]:  how tell me the whole process
[05:20] <GNUHerd> Zach___: PM
[05:21] <[deXter]> Abraham, http://rolandeckert.com/notes/recovery
[05:21] <xodiak> hello
[05:21] <Th3Pun15h3r> I wonder if I can use lxde and just switch it to the same kernel
[05:22] <tripelb> tenX: so I should change the frequency on ubuntu. Is that right.?
[05:22] <OpenSorce> Just to make sure I didn't just misspeak in another channel, wubi is unsupported in here, right?
[05:22] <[deXter]> Th3Pun15h3r, Join #ubuntu-offtopic , because this is all offtpoic talk.
[05:22] <Th3Pun15h3r> kk
[05:22] <tripelb> okay I'll try that now on my friend has ubuntu live cd on his Windows computer here thank you
[05:23] <tenX> tripelb: first make sure your wifi device supports an via iwconfig $dev_name
[05:23] <hen> ahoneybun, thanks a lot for your help. I was able to fix my problem by getting a tty on the recovery mode and reinstalling my graphics driver
[05:23] <hen> thanks!
[05:23] <OpenSorce> !wubi
[05:24] <roneythomas6> LUSERS
[05:28] <delac> I'm on "configuring grup-pc" dialog (after some updates). I selected /dev/sda and click forward, but the dialog tells me that I didnt select anything. what to do?
[05:28] <Abraham> [deXter]:  it says no file or directory lost+found
[05:31] <Abraham> not working
[05:31] <Abraham> damn
[05:32] <meow628> Abraham, do you need help?
[05:34] <tascal> hi everyone
[05:34] <tascal> I am new to Ubuntu
[05:35] <tascal> Can anyone please please help me out with a thing
[05:36] <tascal> ./ command in the termal does not work
[05:36] <phy1729> tascal: in general on IRC it's preferred if you just ask your question. If people can answer it they will respond
[05:36] <tascal> ./configure
[05:36] <phy1729> what do you mean does not work? doesn't run at all?
[05:36] <tascal> nope
[05:36] <tascal> I was just confused
[05:36] <tascal> Was following a tutorial
[05:37] <tascal> it said at the end
[05:37] <tascal> ./Penguin-Pills.tar.gz
[05:37] <tascal> "Was installing Penguin Pills GUI for AVG"
[05:38] <tascal> But it did not work
[05:38] <phy1729> what do you mean did not work? was there an error?
[05:38] <tascal> No, Not an error
[05:38] <tascal> But it said
[05:39] <tascal> No such directory exists
[05:39] <tascal> But everything works fine in XTerm terminal
[05:39] <phy1729> are you sure you had the . in front the slash?
[05:40] <tascal> yes I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS a week back
[05:40] <tascal> I checked it every day
[05:40] <phy1729> that is not what I asked
[05:40] <tascal> Even I tried copy/paste
[05:41] <ipup> and you don't break your install yet?
[05:41] <phy1729> copy and paste what you ran on the terminal to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:41] <tascal> Nope :)
[05:41] <tamouse__> quick question: in 11.10, how do i add startup items? (and where is this documented?)
[05:42] <tascal> I made sure the dot was there infront phy
[05:42] <tascal> wait a sec phy
[05:43] <neil1234567890> How can I make ubuntu remember the sizes of the windows, because i have a netbook and the wondows size exceeds the screen
[05:44] <cd80> ll
[05:44] <tascal> phy pasted it
[05:44] <phy1729> and what's the link to it?
[05:45] <tascal> phy >> pls help I was asking evrybody about this
[05:45] <tascal> Oh ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/1384488/
[05:45] <arturo> um
[05:45] <tamouse__> hello?
[05:46] <bluegrass> Hello?
[05:46] <dysun> hello
[05:46] <phy1729> tascal: an which of those lines is giveing you trouble?
[05:46] <tamouse__> quick question (redux): in 11.10, how do i add startup items? (and where is this documented?)
[05:46] <tascal> But evrything works fine in XTerm
[05:47] <phy1729> tascal: did you google ubuntu startup?
[05:47] <tascal> the last two
[05:47] <tascal> ./vpnclient start ./vpncmd
[05:47] <tascal> no
[05:48] <phy1729> tascal: so in one terminal ./vpnclient start works fine in another it errors with the no such directory?
[05:48] <tascal> Should I do it now
[05:48] <phy1729> oh that wasn't to you
[05:48] <phy1729> tamouse__: did you google ubuntu startup?
[05:48] <tascal> Yes Yes Exactly
[05:48] <tamouse__> yes
[05:48] <tamouse__> in many forms
[05:48] <cd80> jj
[05:48] <tamouse__> also checked on many forums
[05:48] <phy1729> tamouse__: and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup doesn't work?
[05:49] <phy1729> tascal: humor me and try again and make sure the dot is infront and then tell me exactly what the error message is
[05:49] <tamouse__> that link doesn't even *appear* in the first 100 listings
[05:50] <tascal> Should I do it know end send you screen shots ?
[05:50] <phy1729> tascal: can't hurt
[05:50] <phy1729> tamouse__: you'll get better google-fu one day
[05:50] <tascal> thanks Atlast a glimmer of hope
[05:51] <Erin> Sup ubuntu users
[05:51] <arturo> ok
[05:52] <Bothos> anyone know how how to bring up a process list in ubuntu?
[05:52] <Ashley__101_> home/system
[05:53] <phy1729> Bothos: command line or gui?
[05:53] <Bothos> either or both
[05:54] <phy1729> top for CLI I don't use the GUI
[05:54] <Bothos> what is 'top for CLI' mean?
[05:54] <Ashley__101_> go dash home and then system monitor!
[05:56] <phy1729> Bothos: CLI is command line interface for a nice graphical alternative Ashley__101_ seems to have provided your answer
[05:57] <stobix> Bothos: CLI=command line interface. In other words, write top in a terminal, receive interactive process list! \o/
[05:58] <Bothos> ok thanks yall
[06:02] <Ashley__101_> can i get to grub menu withought a reboot
[06:03] <wyclif> there is also htop which is shinier
[06:03] <seednode> Mmmm, htop.
[06:04] <phy1729> wyclif: he's long gone and I couldn't think of it in time
[06:05] <wyclif> phy1729: I should probably turn leave notifications back on
[06:05] <Ashley__101_> well then
[06:05] <Ashley__101_> ill go masturbate
[06:05] <pycboy_> ？
[06:05] <pycboy_> 这里干啥的？
[06:10] <l0st1me> I'm trying to run Ubuntu 12 on a Toshiba Satellite C655D.
[06:10] <KM0201> !netsplit
[06:11] <l0st1me> What's the easiest way to hack in a driver for an AMD based video card?
[06:11] <l0st1me> Ok.  Are you all chatbots, and just like, doing that?
[06:12] <pycboy_> 。。。
[06:13] <anomalyst> What is the syntax for multiple DNS servers in Webmin? Comma sepaated? space separated?
[06:14] <anomalyst> for the DHCP client option
[06:17] <IdleOne> !webmin
[06:20] <spiderweb> what happened?
[06:20] <IdleOne> !netsplit | spiderweb
[06:20] <wolter> help! I installed unauthenticated packages and then my volume was pushed up a bit and a siren sound started playing loudly. What can I do?
[06:21] <simplew> i tried to get a source package and i got this error;  E: Unable to locate package dpkg-source
[06:21] <simplew> what am i misisng?
[06:22] <simplew> splits
[06:25] <wolter> help! I installed unauthenticated packages and then my volume was pushed up a bit and a siren sound started playing loudly. What can I do?
[06:26] <spiderweb> simplew: try apt-get source pakagename
[06:26] <phy1729> wolter: how invested are you into that system?
[06:26] <badbandit> hello, I am running ubuntu 12.10 inside a virtualbox on a new windows 8 machine... My main laptop screen broke and so I am using this and need to access my files. I plugged my main laptop harddrive into a SATA->USB and plugged it in but I am not seeing it or not sure how to mount it... anyone have experience with this?
[06:26] <wolter> phy1729, well its my personal computer, what do you mean exactly?
[06:27] <phy1729> wolter: you can always do a fresh install
[06:27] <dnewkirk> badbandit: you need to point Vbox to the usb drive
[06:27] <wolter> phy1729, oh yeah sure, but I mean, should I check on boot loading scripts or something to ensure this will not happen again, or do something similar?
[06:28] <carrotpicker> Hello, I have a quick question.
[06:28] <FlowRiser> shoot
[06:28] <carrotpicker> How do I install wine?
[06:28] <simplew> spiderweb: seams you have not read well themessage i posted
[06:28] <dnewkirk> badbandit: when you are running the VM, go to the devices menu and select the usb-drive. That should allow the Ubuntu VM to see and open the drive
[06:29] <phy1729> wolter: If you do a full install, the installer should write over that
[06:29] <FlowRiser> carrotpicker, http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[06:29] <phy1729> but next time think before you sudo
[06:29] <spiderweb> simplew: oh, sorry
[06:29] <carrotpicker> Best command ever: sudo apt-get purge unity
[06:29] <wolter> phy1729, yeah :/ never thought this could happen
[06:30] <oldgettingsomewh> (6)  hello
[06:30] <phy1729> with sudo anything can happen
[06:31] <wolter> phy1729, yeah, I mean I never thought I would actually get trouble by installing unauthenticated third party libraries haha, seems a bit odd. However I know the power of sudo and I guess I will never again install unauthenticated packages; thanks for your help..
[06:32] <badbandit> dnewkirk: there are 3 drives that show up under devices -> USB Devices, two say "unknown device" and the 3rd says "Gene... USB-SATA" which I assumed is the drive, but clicking that brings up a windows error saying the drive is busy
[06:35] <Lavare> Hello
[06:36] <Fishook> hi, dont know what i did log in from GDM all i have is wallpaper except KDE in which case i have no window borders.
[06:36] <Fishook> on Ubuntu 12.10
[06:36] <Lavare> Can someone help me with my computer??
[06:37] <dnewkirk> badbandit: do you have anything open in the drive, such as a document, etc?
[06:37] <FlowRiser> Lavare, just ask your question
[06:37] <nongoogle> tell us how we may assist you Lavare
[06:37] <Lavare> Ok,well I am having trouble keeping a wifi connection on my computer.
[06:38] <Lavare> Hello??
[06:39] <Fishook> i cant log into any session besides KDE. All i have with Unity session is wallpaper.
[06:39] <FlowRiser> Lavare, do you have the proper drivers installed ?
[06:39] <Lavare> I don't know...:(
[06:40] <badbandit> dnewkirk: no I dont, windows 8 does show the filesystem but (as they still dont support ext4) you cant even access it... But I just read that it might have somethign to do with usb 2.0 support, so I am going to try and install the extension pack and see if htat works... brb
[06:40] <Lavare> How can I check if I have all the correct things installed??
[06:41] <Lavare> FlowRiser?
[06:41] <dnewkirk> badbandit: Ahh, so it's ext4. The usb 2.0 driver pack may help, true.
[06:42] <Lavare> Hello??
[06:42] <Fishook> i just i dont know how to ask
[06:42] <Fishook> i guess i just dont know
[06:42] <gerzel> Q. I am trying to change a server's ip from dynamic to static.  I've edited /etc/network/interfaces to set eth0 operating as static but resolve.conf still apears to be operating dynamically resetting when ever I restart the computer and losing my dns entries.  How do I set static dns?
[06:43] <Fishook> i cant log into any session besides KDE. All i have with Unity session is wallpaper.
[06:43] <Fishook> any ideers anyone?
[06:44] <Lavare> How do I check to see if I have the correct drivers installed so that I can use my wifi??....
[06:45] <Lavare> And If I don't have the one I am suppose to,how do I install it.
[06:45] <Lavare> ?
[06:45] <Fishook> i say please ?
[06:45] <userZ> is skype in the ubuntu software package repository?
[06:46] <Lavare> Can someone please answer me??....Please?
[06:46] <talcos> Hi I am new to ubuntu
[06:46] <Fishook> user7 enable other repo's with software centre or synaptic an you will find skype
[06:47] <talcos> I installed Ubuntu a week back
[06:47] <userZ> Fishhook, Im not sure how to do that
[06:47] <talcos> Needed to install Penguin Pills
[06:47] <userZ> the skype website offers a linux skype download, but how do you install it?
[06:47] <talcos> But ./ command does not work
[06:47] <talcos> pls help
[06:48] <Fishook> download it and open skype.deb with software centre
[06:48] <userZ> ok
[06:48] <Fishook> i think its default name is skype.deb
[06:49] <Fishook> anyhow open what you d/l with software centre
[06:49] <userZ> Fishhook, would this option be available in Lubuntu/Xubuntu too?
[06:49] <Fishook> not shure, probable
[06:49] <userZ> because my dvd burner isn't working and I have to use the cd ubunut
[06:49] <Fishook> 98% sure
[06:49] <userZ> ok
[06:49] <talcos> Why does ./  command not work ? pls help
[06:51] <cutt3r> chmod +x file
[06:51] <jhanarato> So, the question I had before I got kicked off...
[06:51] <jhanarato> Is it possible to install ubuntu server without pae?
[06:52] <jhanarato> i just want to play... it's an old inspiron laptop... the timestamp on the background image is 2009... ;-)
[06:52] <talcos> cutt3r: do I have to change permissions before ./
[06:52] <jhanarato> I'm trying the mini-iso. not sure if it allows a server install or just the desktop (which will do I suppose)
[06:53] <almoxarife> jhanarato: assuming you had to install it with pae, you could just install the non(pae) kernel and remove the other
[06:54] <jhanarato> the boot CD won't boot
[06:54] <almoxarife> jhanarato: the mini-iso has a multitude of options for desktops,
[06:54] <jhanarato> and servers?
[06:54] <jhanarato> weird situation I know :-)
[06:54] <jhanarato> might have to dish out for a sheeva plug
[06:55] <jhanarato> but the shipping to australia is almost the cost of the device itself
[06:55] <Fishook> i have a second question also, Compiz Settings Manager will not start on my machine
[06:55] <Fishook> iv seen bugs filed, but no fix
[06:55] <almoxarife> jhanarato: yes, at the expert level you have many options, why dont you just run the installer or read the docs
[06:56] <jhanarato> sorry, you're right
[06:57] <jhanarato> I'm actually half way through "Installing the base system" and wondering if it is worth waiting
[06:57] <jhanarato> I will figure it out thanks. :-)
[06:57] <Fishook> no one can answer any of mine, lol
[06:58] <Fishook> sigh
[06:58] <qwebirc544978> join/ #lubuntu
[06:58] <qwebirc544978> lol wrong window
[06:59] <Fishook> is there a terminal command to reset all unity?
[06:59] <almoxarife> Fishook: start the manager from terminal, what errors do you see?
[06:59] <Fishook> still wont start almoxarife
[07:00] <almoxarife> Fishook: it may terminate with some error, but you must get some output via terminal
[07:00] <Trixie_> Hello
[07:00] <Fishook> ok its sudo csm right?
[07:01] <jhanarato> hi trijntje
[07:01] <almoxarife> Fishook: i dont know, you said it did not run? what did not run? and no sudo
[07:01] <jhanarato> hmm... Trixie_ sorry
[07:01] <Fishook> i forgot the abbreviation for compiz settings manager
[07:01] <Trixie_> Hi, nice to be here!
[07:03] <sail> cant copy anything from usb to computer if gives:Error splicing file: Input/output error
[07:03] <Noah> Is anyone available to help me out with a RAID setup?
[07:04] <cosmicfires> what do you need Noah?
[07:05] <Trixie_> I use Microsoft Windows product right now. I have an Ubuntu CD, Shall I install Ubuntu via Ubuntu CD or Install Ubuntu via Windows installer (wubi.exe)?
[07:05] <Noah> sudo fdisk -l shows the raid partition, yet mdadm --examine --scan doesn't show the raid
[07:05] <Fishook> almoxarife, compizconfig - Info: Backend     : ini
[07:05] <Fishook> compizconfig - Info: Integration : true
[07:05] <Fishook> compizconfig - Info: Profile     : default
[07:05] <Fishook> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:06] <jhanarato> gosh
[07:06] <Noah> Trixie are you trying to replace your current Windows install or install Ubuntu and Windows side by side?
[07:06] <cosmicfires> Noah the partitions aren't assembled into a raid device yet
[07:06] <almoxarife> Fishook: the process is crashing, seg fault
[07:06] <sail> cant copy anything from usb to computer if gives:Error splicing file: Input/output error
[07:07] <somsip> userZ: the version of skype in the repos is now up to date. I doun't believe there is an advantage in installing the deb from Skype webiste
[07:07] <Noah> cosmicfires what command(s) should I run?
[07:07] <cosmicfires> I think you need to make /etc/raidtab
[07:08] <cosmicfires> I'm looking at my notes it's been awhile since I've set raid up, I used the ubuntu alternate install dvd most recently
[07:08] <Trixie_> I want to install Ubuntu in windows. Do you have any suggestion? Use CD or Windows Installer (via wubi.exe)
[07:08] <sail> Trixie: use windows ubuntu installer
[07:08] <Noah> cosmicfires okay awesome..I've created the directory /etc/raidtab
[07:08] <cutt3r> wubi especially if you are not familiar with linux
[07:08] <Noah> Trixie yeah use the windows installer
[07:09] <cosmicfires> raidtab is a file not a directory
[07:09] <cosmicfires> Noah: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-raid.html
[07:09] <almoxarife> sail: my guess, the usb is toast, look at /var/log/syslog and kern.log, bet there are errors associated with the usb
[07:09] <Trixie_> Thank you so much for your suggestion!
[07:09] <sail> Trixie: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[07:09] <cosmicfires> raidtab is archaic it's not used anymore
[07:10] <Noah> cosmicfires..okay suggestions on something to use instead? I've already got a working ubuntu install so I can't use the initial setup wizard. It's server 12.04
[07:11] <almoxarife> Trixie_: wubi is a good choice for someone entertaining the idea of using linux, its an easy install
[07:11] <Trixie_> by the way, the installer is 32bit or 64bit?
[07:11] <cosmicfires> I'm looking at that url I pasted
[07:11] <almoxarife> Trixie_: the installer is dependent on your win system, is it 32 or 64?
[07:12] <Trixie_> my windows is 32bit
[07:12] <almoxarife> Trixie_: then you want the 32bit
[07:12] <remmy56> is there a way you can get information on a package before you install it in terminal? as in do a quick query on what it is? thanks
[07:13] <cosmicfires> I set raid up with the installer
[07:13] <almoxarife> Trixie_: is the hardware 64bit?
[07:13] <Noah> cosmicfires my disc drive is broken in the machine..makes things really difficult
[07:13] <cosmicfires> you want raidreconf I think
[07:13] <sail> remmy56: apt-cache show <package>
[07:14] <Trixie_> Yes, I want ubuntu 32bit, instead of 64bit. When I try to check my Ubuntu system information, it says Your OS is: Ubuntu 64 bit
[07:14] <remmy56> sail, thanks, perfect!
[07:14] <Lavare> I have more information on my wireless card.....Can someone help me please??......I need to know if I am missing a driver.
[07:15] <sail> Trixie: download 32 bit image and install it through usb
[07:15] <Trixie_> So, I uninstall Ubuntu, and unzip the 32bit wubi.exe from ubuntu iso file.
[07:15] <cosmicfires> Noah: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_raidreconf.htm
[07:15] <Noah> cosmicfires the only thing is, cat /proc/mdstat shows (2/2), an active raid is already setup..it actually just finished resyncing
[07:15] <Trixie_> Finally, I dig out the 32bit version of wubi.exe from ubuntu iso file.
[07:15] <Lavare> FlowRiser,are you there?
[07:16] <FlowRiser> Lavare, yes i am, sry i had my own share of problems :)
[07:16] <jhanarato> Ok, just for the record - the mini-iso gives many options incuding a variety of server installations... looks like canonical did a good job. :-)
[07:16] <cosmicfires> then you don't have to build it, I'm not sure what the problem is
[07:16] <cosmicfires> looks like raidreconf isn't current anyway
[07:16] <Lavare> It is ok...lol...Can you help me though?
[07:17] <Noah> strange..thanks for the help anyway ..anybody else have any ideas?
[07:17] <trung`> !ubuntu
[07:17] <trung`> !emacs
[07:17] <FlowRiser> Lavare, ok, so the first thing you ahve to do is to get on your wifi manufacturers website and search for linux drivers
[07:17] <Trixie_> If you download ubuntu installer directly from download menu, I think it's for 64bit systems.
[07:17] <cosmicfires> Noah do you have file systems on your raid devices?
[07:17] <kop__> !vi
[07:17] <almoxarife> !wubi
[07:17] <FlowRiser> Lavare, if you do find a linux driver, then just follow the instructions and you will be all set
[07:18] <sail> TrixieL it contains both and installl accoring to ur system
[07:19] <Noah> yup I have a 1TB drive with two 500GB partitions (one of them used in the raid), and a 500GB drive partitioned as a whole (the whole used in the raid). Both of which are LINUX Raid partitioned. It's raid 1..then the raid 1 is partitioned as ext4
[07:19] <Trixie_> Thank you very much and have a nice day!
[07:19] <zelozelos> what was the name of the program that let you change settings such as grub backgrounds, installed grub versions and other programs, and lots of settings and such?
[07:20] <Noah> cosmicfires yup I have a 1TB drive with two 500GB partitions (one of them used in the raid), and a 500GB drive partitioned as a whole (the whole used in the raid). Both of which are LINUX Raid partitioned. It's raid 1..then the raid 1 is partitioned as ext4
[07:22] <FlowRiser> !wifi
[07:22] <arunkumar413> how to find the ip address of the devices connected to the router
[07:23] <Noah> arunkumar413 That would depend on the router wouldn't it?
[07:23] <one> As I get to the login screen my second monitor (a TV) goes to "no signal"
[07:24] <Noah> Anybody else good with RAID setups from shell?
[07:24] <arunkumar413> Noah: i know the router ip address. and want to know the ip address of the devices connected to it from ubuntu command line
[07:24] <Noah> ohhh from command line I'm not sure..do you have another machine you can check from that has a web browser?
[07:24] <arunkumar413> how
[07:25] <Noah> if you know the router IP on your network (for example, say a Linksys router has the IP 192.168.1.1), you can type it in the address bar of another computer connected to that network
[07:25] <sail> arunkumar413: try host 192.168.1.2/100
[07:25] <one> I need help getting dual monitor setup working (xubuntu 12.10)
[07:26] <zelozelos> ahh yea its ubuntu tweak ;)
[07:26] <ClientAlive> I need to get j2ee set up on ubuntu 12.04 server (w/ gnome) in such a way to use it with eclipse/ for development. Can anyone help?
[07:27] <Fishook> ubuntu tweak crashes on launch too
[07:27] <arunkumar413> sail:  host 92.168.1.2/100
[07:27] <arunkumar413> Host 92.168.1.2/100 not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[07:27] <arunkumar413> aravind@linux-75ae:~>
[07:27] <sail> arunkumar: try ur ipaddress with this
[07:28] <Noah> arunkumar413 I'd recommend if you have another computer on the network, accessing the router's setup page that way.. they usually have a client table you can see who's connected to the network. From shell I'm not sure.
[07:28] <sail> if u get host not found error it means this is not using by system
[07:28] <Noah> sail I got the same error as arunkumar using your command with my router's IP on my network ..if that was your intended use
[07:29] <arunkumar413> Noah: i don't have the admin rights to the router
[07:29] <Noah> arunkumar413 that definitely puts a damper on my method then..nevermind :)
[07:29] <Noah> over and out
[07:29] <sail> Noah: actually mine work:host 192.168.1.2
[07:29] <sail> 2.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer SouravAJ.Home.
[07:30] <one> who does X only show up on one monitor?
[07:33] <one> does anybody know how to trouble shoot display problems?
[07:33] <jhanarato> thanks!
[07:43] <kop__> wow /freenode hates me
[07:43] <one> hello?
[07:43] <kop__> ./
[07:43] <one> can anyone help me?
[07:43] <kop__> with ?
[07:43] <one> X problem maybe, not sure
[07:43] <kop__> well ...
[07:43] <one> trying to setup dual monitors
[07:44] <kop__> and ...
[07:44] <one> works fine until I run X
[07:44] <blackshirt> hello
[07:44] <one> then the second monitor shuts off
[07:44] <dcherniv> one, run xrandr pastebin what it says
[07:44] <one> if I drop to a tty I get the second monitor back
[07:45] <kop__> one, well then , cat /var/log/xorg log something or other if xrander wasn't available
[07:46] <one> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1384630/
[07:48] <tripelb> Yesterday Ubuntu didn't see my hot spot on a Mac.. Today Ubuntu did  see my hot spot. I have nothing but success no reasons.
[07:48] <tripelb> nn
[07:48] <dcherniv>  xrandr  --output  HDMI1  --mode 1680x1050 --pos 0x0 --output HDMI3 --right-of HDMI1 --mode 1920x1080
[07:48] <dcherniv> one, ^
[07:49] <JohnTeddy> My integrated intel graphics are spitting out lots of DRM errors... is there an update somewhere to fix this? I have the latest ubuntu, it wasn't like this last week. I think it's an update from ubuntu.com
[07:50] <one> thanks dcherniv!!
[07:50] <dcherniv> one, did it work?
[07:51] <one> perfectly!  help me understand what that means and how to fix permanently
[07:51] <dcherniv> one, in xrandr --output specifies which monitor the settings are applied
[07:52] <dcherniv> one, so on hdmi1 we set the resolution to 1680x1050 and position it by --pos, for output HDMI3 we set it to the right of HDMI1 and set the mode to 1920x1080
[07:53] <dcherniv> one, your problem was that by default Xorg set HDMI3 to the same res as hdmi1 and that res was not supported by HDMI3
[07:53] <dcherniv> one, you can try using arandr which is a GUI frontend to xrandr, it should let you save the settings
[07:53] <one> wow, I'm impressed!
[07:54] <dcherniv> one, if all else fails you can the line that i pasted to ~/.xinitrc which is Xorg startup script
[07:54] <almoxarife> dcherniv: you are the xorg god :) , know i know you the go to is
[07:54] <one> one last question: how did you know HDMI3 was on the right hand side?
[07:54] <dcherniv> almoxarife, lets say that i have an ATI card
[07:55] <dcherniv> one, guessed :)
[07:55]  * dcherniv smoke break
[07:56] <sid|1> someone say something
[07:56] <almoxarife> sid|1: 'something'
[07:57] <sid|1> ok thanks
[07:57] <sid|1> thought we were having another net split
[07:59] <nomind> wht the use of xterm and uxterm in ubuntu?
[07:59] <Rask> Hello, channel.  I'm in the sticky situation of needing/wanting a version of a package that is in raring, whilst running quantal... is there a reasonably easy way to push this package ahead but not disturb others?  Or is this going to create a big mess of dependency problems?
[08:00] <dcherniv> nomind, uxterm understands UTF
[08:01] <dcherniv> nomind, but then again xterm should understand UTF nowadays so theres no difference
[08:01] <nomind> if i remove it hope is doesnt create any problem with system?
[08:02] <dcherniv> nomind, oh my... no dont remove it
[08:02] <dcherniv> nomind, why?
[08:02] <nomind> ah just want to remove extra stuff in ubuntu which is not in my usage
[08:03] <dcherniv> nomind, xorg depends on xterm so you cant really remove it
[08:04] <nomind> dcherniv: oh thanx for saving my ass
[08:07] <auronandace> nomind: it may be safer to do it the opposite way and just get what you need (rather than remove what you don't) by starting with a minimal install
[08:07] <auronandace> !mini | nomind
[08:08] <nomind> `actually i am making 1 from linux from scratch source
[08:09]  * one is going to bed, thanks to you good folks...
[08:09] <dcherniv> nomind, LFS is really not for everyday usage.
[08:10] <dcherniv> nomind, i mean you will build it, but there's no infrastructure around. No package management etc. It will become a PITA in the long run
[08:11] <nomind> ok i will try ubuntu minimal cd but worried about 1 thing about my drivers i hope i get it from ubuntu when i use minimal method
[08:11] <auronandace> nomind: most drivers are part of the kernel
[08:11] <nomind> thanx
[08:14] <nomind> can i use usb for minimal actually i hav netbook so i dont have any cd option
[08:15] <16SAAK2LL> nomind: yes
[08:20] <fixer> hi
[08:20] <fixer> we are a legion
[08:20] <fixer> expect us
[08:22] <Karlo_> Ubuntu 10.04, boot options (root=something ro quiet splash); I added (rootdelay=30), which I take to be measured in seconds, but I still get the error message (something like "no such disk", and drop into BusyBox) after -no- apparent delay.  When I exit BusyBox, it does find the root disk, but it says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present" and offers me a maintenance shell.  Am I misunderstanding the rootdelay option?
[08:29] <arunkumar413> how to find the devices attached to the router
[08:30] <auronandace> arunkumar413: consult your router documentation
[08:30] <arunkumar413> auronandace: is there any command to find it
[08:31] <Diamondcite> arunkumar413: Why would you want to try to look with a command? It's not very accurate...
[08:31] <arunkumar413> Diamondcite: because i don't have the admin rights to the router
[08:32] <Diamondcite> arunkumar413: Also some devices won't even announce they are attached to the router...
[08:32] <thomas7788> Hi everyone!
[08:32] <auronandace> arunkumar413: your router is entirely separate from ubuntu, this isn't a ubuntu issue
[08:32] <neil098> HI GUYS, HOW CAN I GET MY UBUNTU TO REMEMBER WINDOW SIZES? I GOT A NETBOOK RUNNING UBUNTU 12.04 AND WINDOWS EXCEEDS THE SCREEN.
[08:32] <auronandace> !caps | neil098
[08:32] <Guest23219> neil098: Please don't use caps
[08:32] <JimmyNeutron> neil098: BY NOT TYPING IN CAPS!
[08:33] <Diamondcite> arunkumar413: What are you trying to find? A printer? NAS? Long lost iphone which much be connected? Vulnerable computers connected to a coffee shop?
[08:33] <neil098> Woops! :)
[08:33] <thomas7788> I am interested in installing Ubuntu 32bit, please tell me what to do, thank you!
[08:33] <neil098> My bad.
[08:34] <almoxarife> arunkumar413: the best you can do is run 'wireshark' in promiscuous mode , that is, you will sniff the wire to the best of your cards capability and as allowed by the router, there are 'netstat' equiv for the same thing
[08:34] <neil098> How can I get my ubuntu 12.04 netbook to remember its window sizes? It exceeds the screen.
[08:35] <Diamondcite> neil098: It's not remembering window sizes? As far as I know, google chrome, firefox, gedit and the built in terminal all seem to remember the sizes for me..
[08:35] <Guest23219> neil098: Set the display
[08:36] <neil098> what about the pop up windows? like when you save or download files.
[08:36] <neil098> I was able to set the screen on the recommended display
[08:36] <almoxarife> neil098: popup from where? what created the popup?
[08:36] <JustSighDudes> Does ${PATH} include subdirs?
[08:36] <Diamondcite> neil098: hrm... I never knew how to fix that =O .. ended up learning to navigate with keyboard since some windows are just too darn big.
[08:37] <Diamondcite> JustSighDudes: No it does not.
[08:37] <JustSighDudes> Thanks
[08:37] <Karlo_> JustSighDudes: PATH-searching code will not consider subdirectories of what's listed in $PATH, if that's what you mean.
[08:38] <Guest23219> How ubuntu remmember time itself after  restarting or shutdown the system?
[08:38] <Karlo_> Guest23219: Clock battery.
[08:38] <thomas7788> Do I need to install Gnome desktop environment or Ubuntu is good enough?
[08:39] <almoxarife> Guest23219: or if getting time via network it asks during bootup
[08:39] <auronandace> thomas7788: unity is default (built on gnome3), use whatever desktop you like from the repos
[08:39] <badbandit> hello, I am working inside an ubuntu 12.10 guest host with vmware and I had a SATA->USB connected 2nd harddrive with data I need from my home directory, which is encrypted as I just found out... Is there a way to access it via terminal?
[08:40] <almoxarife> thomas7788: depends on what 'good enough' is
[08:40] <Guest23219> almoxarife: If it is manually set then ?
[08:40] <Guest23219> almoxarife: No internet connection
[08:40] <thomas7788> Thank you very much, auromamdace.
[08:41] <Guest23219> Karlo_: If you don't mind plese explain   more
[08:41] <neil098> yeah agree, i had to hold down alt key, @almoxarife yah know like when you right-click on a pic when you wanna download it. A "save" window will appear
[08:41] <almoxarife> badbandit: the encrypted is on the vm?
[08:41] <tkmostt> hello evryone.I have a small query
[08:42] <badbandit> no, Im working inside an ubuntu guest on a win8 host, I connected a 2nd harddrive from my (broken) laptop as a 2nd drive... I got it to mount and can access it but when I go to the home folder where my files are, it is encrypted
[08:42] <badbandit> just has a readme file
[08:42] <Karlo_> Guest23219, the computer has a battery which it uses when it doesn't have external power, to keep the clock running.  If the battery is dead, then the clock will be wrong when you start the machine again.
[08:42] <thomas7788> I tried to install Ubuntu via Windows Installer (wubi.exe), I don't know it's Ubuntu 64 bit OS.
[08:42] <tkmostt> after i have upgraded to ubuntu 12.10 from 12.04 i am not receiving any updates..only updates that i receive is for browsers like opers
[08:43] <tkmostt> *opera
[08:43] <almoxarife> neil098: resize the windows and use the 'file' exit , you should not be seeing popups on a browser, is that a choice?
[08:43] <almoxarife> thomas7788: can you get into ubuntu?
[08:44] <Guest23219> Karlo_: thanks !
[08:44] <auronandace> almoxarife: i think neil098 meant save dialogue rather than pop-up
[08:44] <thomas7788> Ubuntu 64 bit OS Windows Installer supports AMD64, after setup finished, My 32 bit system, installed a Ubuntu 64 bit OS!?
[08:44] <almoxarife> auronandace: ok
[08:44] <Guest23219> Karlo_: Is it chargable ?
[08:45] <almoxarife> thomas7788: you may have a 64bit machine, having a win32bit install does not mean the hardware is not 64bit, this is how i found out i was on a 64bit machine, if you have one, great.
[08:46] <thomas7788> So, users must be very careful to choose Windows Installer, make sure they want 32bit or 64bit Windows installer.
[08:47] <Karlo_> Guest23219: I don't really know that much about it -- I suggest you choose some good keywords and search the Web.
[08:47] <tkmostt> after i have upgraded to ubuntu 12.10 from 12.04 i am not receiving any updates..only updates that i receive is for browsers like opera and firefox
[08:47] <almoxarife> thomas7788: a 64bit install wont work on a 32bit hardware, no matter what, it would error out, you would see it
[08:48] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: are u sure you use correct software sources for the new version?
[08:48] <tkmostt> have there been no updates from canonical after 12.10 release...or something is wrong in my software update configuration?
[08:48] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: what does "apt-get update" say?
[08:49] <tkmostt> 16SAAK2LL: posting in a minute
[08:49] <almoxarife> tkmostt: pastebin your sources list, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:49] <tkmostt> ok doing
[08:49] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: please use pastbin, don´t past directly
[08:49] <tkmostt> sure
[08:49] <varikonniemi> one messagersw can be posted directly
[08:50] <almoxarife> 16SAAK2LL: hence the request to 'pastebin'
[08:50] <varikonniemi> afaik paste restriction is 1 message, else use pastebin etc.
[08:51] <thomas7788> I know. If I don't received any updates, I will go to Ubuntu dash, and search 'update manager' to see any new updates. Or open system information, if you see, "system is up-to-date' that means you don't need update yet. It's up-to-date already!
[08:51] <ramshri9> leave #ubuntu
[08:52] <tkmostt> 16SAAK2LL: should i upload screenshots of softwaresource tab and give links
[08:53] <almoxarife> !pastebin | tkmostt
[08:53] <tkmostt> ok
[08:53] <thomas7788> open system information, if you need to update, lower right corner there is bottom asks you to "Install Updates", then just click "Install Update" bottom.
[08:54] <neil098> yah that's it it is a dialogue box
[08:54] <neil098> those boxes appear bigger than my screen
[08:54] <neil098> anydix for this?
[08:54] <neil098> *any fix for this?
[08:55] <almoxarife> neil098: does placing the mouse at any corner change the mouse shape?
[08:55] <thomas7788> My system is 32bit system. So, I uninstalled and reinstalled Ubuntu AMD64 bit several times. :-(
[08:55] <almoxarife> thomas7788: if you are on a 32bit system you need the 32bit ubuntu
[08:57] <thomas7788> How do you know my unbuntu is setup correctly after installation?
[08:57] <jeffroberts> Define "correctly"
[08:57] <OerHeks> thomas7788, when you try that, ubuntu gives an error. so i doubt you intalled 64 bit on 32 bit.
[08:57] <thomas7788> Do I need to setup security firewall? Install anti-virus software?
[08:58] <almoxarife> thomas7788: take for a spin, using firefox go to youtube, start a vid, thats a pretty good test of alot of things
[08:58] <thomas7788> Yes, I think so.
[08:58] <almoxarife> thomas7788: how do you connect to the internet?
[08:58] <thomas7788> Do I have to take care of security installation matter or just enjoy it?
[08:58] <almoxarife> thomas7788: how do you connect to the internet?
[08:59] <blackshirt> thomas7788, you can stick with your default, but are you concern with security ?
[09:00] <thomas7788> It's hard ware from my telephone company.
[09:00] <almoxarife> thomas7788: lets assume you have this config, internet > modem > router > you , then no firewall is needed, the router is the firewall
[09:01] <thomas7788> A message like "Your system is protected" from Ubuntu, that all I need to know. :)
[09:01] <Karlo_> neil098: If you can't resize a window via mouse, you can try doing it from the keyboard.  Alt-F8, then use one arrow key to choose an edge, then use the opposite arrow key several times to shrink the window by moving that edge towards the center.  Hit Enter when done.
[09:01] <almoxarife> thomas7788: lets assume you dont have windoz machines, then no virus checking, if you do have win machines then virus checking is a courtesy to the win machines
[09:02] <blackshirt> thomas7788, for default install and most usage, i think linux was more secure than windows
[09:02] <neil098> @Karlo yeah but when it comes up again it is the same size?
[09:02] <Karlo_> I don't know.  Try it and find out!
[09:03] <thomas7788> Well, I use Windows 8 Pro right now. I install Mcafee Internet Security
[09:03] <neil098> i can resize it definitely but it does not remember the size
[09:03] <almoxarife> thomas7788: then let the win machines take care of themselves
[09:04] <almoxarife> thomas7788: let them carry the overhead, its they who created the mess :)
[09:05] <thomas7788> Thank you. Let's chat together again next time! See you later!
[09:05] <almoxarife> i am guessing i cant mount a vbox vdi ?
[09:08] <almoxarife> i can :) , life is better
[09:09] <netAction> Hi! In Ubuntu 12.10 every program seems to drop this error message window from time to time. This is very annoying and looks like Windows 95. Is it possible to deactivate it globally? It is OK if my computer sends a report to Launchpad but it is not OK if it asks every five minutes.
[09:11] <cJether> long time no see
[09:13] <almoxarife> netAction: its not normal to drop error messages, you got issues
[09:14] <netAction> almoxarife: I think it is normal. Didn't see any computer running 12.10 that has not these messages when connecting Bluetooth e.g. or when GIMP crashs.
[09:18] <izx> Am getting "tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED" on accessing samba share. How to rectify it ???
[09:18] <tkmostt> 16SAAK2LL: image links: http://imagebin.org/237127   http://imagebin.org/237126    http://imagebin.org/237128   http://imagebin.org/237125
[09:19] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: so u updated to 12.10, right?
[09:19] <tkmostt> yes
[09:22] <vox> izx: are you trying to connect to a share on a windows7 machine?
[09:22] <izx> no
[09:22] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: you need to change the software sources towards 12.10
[09:22] <vox> izx: what are you trying to connect to
[09:23] <tkmostt> 16SAAK2LL: can you please tell me how can i do that?
[09:23] <izx> vox: connecting it from linux itself
[09:24] <bekks> izx: Then why do you use samba at all? Why dont you just use NFS?
[09:24] <badbandit> does anyone know how to recover an encrypted home folder from a 2nd hard drive with ubuntu also installed? I have it mounted to /media/chroot but when I try to chroot into it I get /lib32/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /bin/bash)
[09:26] <badbandit> also I HOPE I didnt just F up the whole drive by following a stackoverflow post where someone said to "cp -r /bin /lib /media/chroot
[09:26] <cardio76> ciao
[09:26] <cardio76> !list
[09:26] <bekks> badbandit: You have a backup, dont you?
[09:27] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: first make a backup of ur current list: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup
[09:27] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: then edit it: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list (or ur favourite editor)
[09:27] <izx> bekks: Both from linux and windows.. Accessing it from windows XP also..
[09:28] <tkmostt> 16SAAK2LL: ok
[09:28] <bekks> izx: And connecting from Windows works fine?
[09:28] <badbandit> bekks: no, my laptop monitor broke and so I booted into a virtual ubuntu and plugged my old drive into a usb->sata... i am scared to death, I have a huge project due monday and I cant get into my home directory
[09:28] <izx> bekks: Both doesn't work, all of a sudden.. I didn't make any changes..
[09:29] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: could u just post the content of that file?
[09:29] <unixcorelt> hi, can anybody help ubuntu virgin with intel 985 graphics on my notebook dell inspiron 1520, now graphics are terrible, thanks
[09:30] <bekks> badbandit: I dont get why you chrooted then. http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[09:30] <tkmostt> 16SAAK2LL: which one?  i am a newbie ..so i am not that good
[09:30] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: don´t worry, the one of /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:31] <bekks> badbandit: Better follow this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[09:31] <bekks> badbandit: And create a backup immediately, after getting access to your home again.
[09:32] <badbandit> ok
[09:32] <badbandit> bekks: is it possible I messed something up really bad by running the command "cp -r /bin /lib /mounted/device"?
[09:32] <bekks> badbandit: Yes, possibly.
[09:32] <badbandit> bekks: f***
[09:33] <bekks> badbandit: Thats why you should have a backup.
[09:33] <tkmostt> 16SAAK2LL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1384775/
[09:36] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: this seems already to be ok, so please open a termianl (cmd+alt+t) and write "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[09:36] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: and post the output please
[09:37] <tkmostt> 16SAAK2LL: yes i was told the same by you and others but becoz of slow internet it is taking too long to process....i will post the output as it completes
[09:39] <cosmin> ActionParsnip ?
[09:41] <hacklvwar> hello everyone
[09:42] <hacklvwar> ??
[09:43] <cosmin> can someone help with an error with an external HDD?
[09:43] <bekks> hacklvwar: Do you have a support question?
[09:43] <bekks> cosmin: Not without a actual question. :)
[09:44] <cosmin> i wanted to know first, then ask question =))
[09:44] <bekks> !ask | cosmin
[09:44] <cosmin> ok so when i put the external HDD it says Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 12: NTFS signature is missing
[09:45] <cosmin> i tried to manually mount but no luck
[09:45] <bekks> cosmin: Then the filesystem you are trying to mount is an invalid NTFS filesystem.
[09:45] <cosmin> when i put the external HDD into a windows PC it works, but here not
[09:45] <bekks> cosmin: Then run a filesystem check in windows and unmount it cleanly in windows.
[09:46] <cosmin> ok
[09:46] <cosmin> thanks
[09:46] <cosmin> aaa and another thing with this
[09:46] <cosmin> it shows me double
[09:46] <cosmin> instead of only one
[09:47] <cosmin> in Home Folder at Devices, instead of showing me one , it shows me double
[09:47] <cosmin> it's the external but double
[09:47] <bekks> !enter | cosmin
[09:48] <almoxarife> cosmin: if first concern should be the health of that ntfs, and only win can check it or repair it if its toast
[09:48] <cosmin> hmm
[09:49] <cosmin> it's not toast, yesterday it ran on my windows, only on Ubuntu gives me the error
[09:49] <bekks> cosmin: Then do as I told you.
[09:49] <cosmin> i will
[09:49] <cosmin> thanks
[09:49] <bekks> And obviously it IS ttoasted at the moment.
[09:49] <cosmin> understood
[09:49] <cosmin> thanks
[09:49] <cosmin> have a good day
[09:49] <almoxarife> cosmin: you too, good luck
[09:49] <cosmin> i will come back with more feedback if needed
[09:51] <Gamefreak> Guys im facing an issue, during my installation, the installer would keep on loading wont take me to the part where i start partitioning
[09:52] <almoxarife> Gamefreak: installed what on what?
[09:53] <Gamefreak> almoxarife: My laptop, vaio. But before that i tried on my old dell and it worked perfect on it
[09:56] <almoxarife> Gamefreak: which install media? are you hardwired to the internet?
[09:56] <Gamefreak> USB pen drive, i used wifi connection
[09:57] <Gamefreak> Almoxarife
[09:58] <almoxarife> Gamefreak: i dont think wifi works, was the dell also wifi?
[09:59] <almoxarife> Gamefreak: better yet, does the installer get past the network config?
[10:00] <binaryking> hello
[10:00] <binaryking> I'm unable to connect to the irc server via XChat
[10:00] <Gamefreak> almoxarife: yeap, dell connected with the wifi. And yeah Well installer works, i could try the entire ubuntu. Dell had nvidea graphics card and it had issues booting. I used recovery method to fix the boot problems and started again. But here in vaio when i press install ubuntu it would begin laoding to no real end
[10:01] <remmy56> buffer  -1
[10:03] <almoxarife> Gamefreak: its hard to say, i just installed ubuntu via the 'mini-iso' , its a network install, those work for me where suppose full packed isos dont, got a nice internet connection?
[10:04] <Gamefreak> Almoxarife: Well yeah <_< cant really count on my connection
[10:05] <almoxarife> Gamefreak: or look up (google) your vio model with ubuntu install, there could be something difficult or workaround for it
[10:05] <boulet101010> hi, i'm trying to install some 32-bits application on 12.10 amd64, however, ia32-libs requires ia32-libs-multiarch that's only in the i386 repo. how to proceed?
[10:07] <boulet101010> note : the install was done via debootstrap
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> boulet101010  i have it in the repos, ok, using 64bit, too
[10:09] <almoxarife> boulet101010: try to install via apt-get, use name of file , ia32-libs:i386
[10:10] <boulet101010> yep just saw this almoxarife ;)
[10:10] <boulet101010> thanks
[10:10] <almoxarife> boulet101010: i assume it worked?
[10:11] <boulet101010> hum... nop
[10:11] <boulet101010> but wait
[10:11] <almoxarife> nop? :(
[10:12] <boulet101010> my repositories seems to be buggy
[10:13] <boulet101010> apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 doesn't work :/
[10:13] <boulet101010> can't find package
[10:13] <boulet101010> you want to see my fstab?
[10:14] <boulet101010> eeeeh sourceS.list
[10:14] <Pip>  Simple question, if I want automount for PcManFm, do I need to enable udisks service ?
[10:16] <almoxarife> boulet101010: the file name should be 'ia32-libs:i386'
[10:16] <boulet101010> unable to locate too
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> boulet101010  what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?
[10:17] <boulet101010> http://pastebin.com/aKvUpzKA
[10:17] <boulet101010> -this is sources.list-
[10:17] <boulet101010> ubuntu 12.10
[10:18] <bazhang> ia32-libs-multiarch   <----- package name boulet101010
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> boulet101010  try apt-get update, first, then: apt-cache search ia32
[10:18] <mobheromonitor> HI, Getting Error: "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) on ubuntu 12.04 LTS "
[10:18] <mobheromonitor> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:18] <mobheromonitor> pls help on this asap.
[10:19] <boulet101010> bazhang: already tried
[10:19] <boulet101010> MonkeyDust: ia32-libs matches
[10:19] <FauxFaux> mobheromonitor: What does 'host us.archive.ubuntu.com' return?
[10:20] <bazhang> boulet101010, omit the :i386
[10:20] <mobheromonitor> FauxFaux:  E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. when apt-get install update.
[10:20] <boulet101010> it doesn't find it
[10:20] <boulet101010> neither with :i386 or without
[10:20] <FauxFaux> mobheromonitor: And, returning to my original point..
[10:21] <boulet101010> i re-note that i installed ubuntu from debootstrap, maybe this is the issue
[10:22] <boulet101010> it seems multarch support is not one of the strength of ubuntu
[10:22] <bazhang> so show us the sources.list boulet101010
[10:22] <boulet101010> check pastebin at 11/17
[10:23] <boulet101010> s/\//:/
[10:25] <nomind> @boulet101010: sudo apt-add-repository --remove ppa:scopes-packagers/ppa -y; sudo apt-get update;
[10:26] <nomind> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:scopes-packagers/ppa -y; apt-get update
[10:26] <boulet101010> what's that?
[10:26] <nomind> just run these 2 command to fix tht
[10:26] <boulet101010> why do i need to do this? where can i document on how is ppa working?
[10:26] <boulet101010> how do i check which ppa repos are installed?
[10:26] <almoxarife> nomind: what ppa?
[10:27] <almoxarife> is there more than one pastebin boulet101010?
[10:27] <boulet101010> for sources.list i needed only one
[10:28] <boulet101010> still the same nomind
[10:29] <almoxarife> nomind: how does that ppa help?
[10:30] <almoxarife> boulet101010: did you say what you needed the 32bit libs for?
[10:30] <boulet101010> steam
[10:30] <boulet101010> i installed a ubuntu chroot on debian to test steam
[10:30] <boulet101010> i could reinstall ubuntu in a 32-bit way
[10:31] <blackshirt> !info steam
[10:31] <almoxarife> :)
[10:31] <almoxarife> !steam
[10:31] <boulet101010> i don't care, i just want multiarch to work
[10:31] <boulet101010> doesn't change if it is steam or firefox
[10:31] <boulet101010> ia32-libs doesn't install
[10:34] <boulet101010> dpkg --add-architecture i386
[10:34] <boulet101010> ...
[10:35] <boulet101010> very helpy channel btw.
[10:35] <boulet101010> ah. ah.
[10:37] <VolodymyrB> Hi, I have a problem with apt-get(dpkg?). "sudo apt-get -f install" says "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. E: Unable to correct dependencies" of package "nvidia-current:i386",how to fix this, removing "nvidia-current:i386"?
[10:42] <voltagex> hi, I've just installed Ubuntu on my Nexus 7 and none of my touches seem to register - no applications will launch
[10:44] <Tm_T> voltagex: I don't believe there's any support for Ubuntu on Nexus7 yet
[10:44] <voltagex> Tm_T: support as in help on this channel or support as in it runs?
[10:45] <Tm_T> voltagex: as in "you get to keep both pieces" AFAIK
[10:45] <voltagex> heh
[10:45] <Tm_T> and yeah, this channel is for supported releases (:
[10:46] <16SAAK2LL> volragex: did u try to compile applications yourself?
[10:46] <16SAAK2LL> *voltagex
[10:46] <voltagex> 16SAAK2LL: no, this is first boot, trying to get to the dash
[10:47] <16SAAK2LL> voltagex: are we talking about native install or beside android=
[10:47] <16SAAK2LL> *?
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> voltagex  there are nexus channels, type /msg alis list *nexus*
[10:47] <voltagex> 16SAAK2LL: native via the installer
[10:47] <almoxarife> voltagex: seems there is a ubuntu channel for android, #ubuntu-arm
[10:48] <16SAAK2LL> voltagex: so u installed it via fastboot, right?
[10:48] <voltagex> 16SAAK2LL: yes
[10:50] <16SAAK2LL> voltagex: in fact ubuntu-arm is the right channel for that
[10:50] <epzil0n> hi guys, i'm using xubuntu and trying to figure out what drivers my wifi card is using so how can i do that?
[10:51] <voltagex> 16SAAK2LL: thanks
[10:51] <almoxarife> epzil0n: the network applet will tell you, see 'driver'?
[10:52] <epzil0n> almoxarife: i already got the inxi script but it only says wl, same as the applet and can that be right?
[10:53] <almoxarife> epzil0n: sounds right then
[10:53] <epzil0n> almoxarife: i used lspci | grep -i wireless but that only tells the card
[10:54] <almoxarife> epzil0n: either /var/log/syslog or kern.log should also say something about the driver loaded at boot
[10:54] <epzil0n> almoxarife: ok, the thing is that i tried linux mint and the speed was just horrible and then tried cinnarch which couldn't find my card so no connection but i xubuntu the speed is as it should?
[10:55] <epzil0n> almoxarife: ok, i'll check there too
[10:56] <almoxarife> epzil0n: speed as it should? what driver do you think should be loaded?
[10:56] <epzil0n> almoxarife: the card is Broadcom BCM4313 btw and i have seen that many broadcom card got issues with linux
[10:57] <epzil0n> almoxarife: that's why i'm back with xubuntu because it's the only distro that works ok with this card
[10:57] <almoxarife> epzil0n: broadcom, eek, you got a working card, leave it alone
[10:57] <epzil0n> almoxarife: hehe, i will.. just curious ;)
[10:58] <quoexl> if it aint broke...
[10:58] <epzil0n> quoexl: i'm not looking for changing it in xubuntu, i wanted linux mint or arch to work good too that's why i'm wondering what drivers xubuntu is working
[10:59] <epzil0n> but thx guys, i'm just glad that it works good now :))
[10:59] <epzil0n> using*
[10:59] <quoexl> it uses a bcm43xx driver but I dont know how it works
[11:00] <epzil0n> quoexl: flawless for now at least ;)
[11:01] <quoexl> all of the ubuntu flavors should work similarly if you dont like xubuntu
[11:01] <epzil0n> quoexl: i missed that this ultrabook is using a broadcom crap.. if i had known that would have bought something else :-/
[11:01] <epzil0n> quoexl: i like xfce so i'm fine but installed cinnamon too so going to test that too :P
[11:01] <quoexl> its nice
[11:02] <epzil0n> yeah :)
[11:02] <epzil0n> 1.6.7 looks great
[11:02] <quoexl> I just hopped in the room to do a little catching up
[11:03] <epzil0n> :)
[11:04] <quoexl> is there any news from the samba4 camp?
[11:04] <blup1> hello I have a question
[11:04] <quoexl> !ask
[11:04] <blup1> Has Windows a better performance than Linux?
[11:05] <blup1> or can executiv files run better on windows than on linux?
[11:05] <16SAAK2LL> blup1: this question can´t be answered, more a question of faith
[11:05] <quoexl> simply put, for business computing, no, gaming is better on winders
[11:05] <16SAAK2LL> blup1: what means "better"?
[11:05] <almoxarife> blup1: yes, at making you miserable
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> blup1  no swearing here, please
[11:06] <blup1> windows is swearing? :D
[11:06] <quoexl> pretty close to it
[11:06] <almoxarife> blup1: almost is
[11:06] <blup1> lol
[11:06] <blup1> so why is windows better at running games?
[11:07] <quoexl> because more people write games for winders
[11:07] <quoexl> its a market share thing
[11:07] <16SAAK2LL> blup1: it is not in fact better, but directX is used in most famous games
[11:07] <killer> linux /gnu powers 94% of super computers
[11:08] <16SAAK2LL> blup1: this is a support channel for ubuntu, so please just ask questions regarding this
[11:08] <quoexl> there are no \ on the internet
[11:11] <quoexl> so no news out of the samba4 world?
[11:11] <diode286> hi
[11:11] <quoexl> hello
[11:12] <diode286> whats the best type of laptop to install ubuntu
[11:12] <diode286> easiest
[11:12] <diode286> for drivers ...etc..
[11:12] <quoexl> one with an atheros wireless card in it
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> !hardware > diode286 start here
[11:12] <diode286> !hardware
[11:14] <quoexl> broadcom wireless cards can be a bugger
[11:16] <amit> Is there any way to shutdown or restart my pc using telnet?
[11:16] <FauxFaux> Try the 'shutdown' command.
[11:17] <16SAAK2LL> shutdown now
[11:17] <FauxFaux> Also, please use ssh instead of telnet.
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> s/he's gone
[11:17] <Aha2Y-> Any op available?
[11:17] <gordonjcp> no, they're just called Guest1926 now ;-)
[11:17] <Guest1926> FauxFaux:  Actually  i want to shutdown my system(Which currently i am using now ) using telnet
[11:18] <gordonjcp> Guest1926: you need to register your nick
[11:18] <gordonjcp> Guest1926: don't use telnet
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> Guest1926  try sudo shutdown -r now
[11:18] <diode286>  Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E525 AMD E2-3000M, 2GB, 320GB HD.is that any good toinstall ubuntu on ?
[11:18] <gordonjcp> diode286: should be
[11:18] <quoexl> whats the wireless card in it?
[11:18] <gordonjcp> diode286: you want to pay attention to the graphics, wifi and network chipsets
[11:19] <Guest1926> gordonjcp: Any Reason? And why ssh to shutdown
[11:19] <16SAAK2LL> diode286: there is usually no problem at all, even with the wifi-chip
[11:19] <diode286>  ASUS X54C-SX461V 15.6"  (i3 2310M/500GB/4GB DDR3/4 Cell/Intel HD 3000)
[11:19] <gordonjcp> Guest1926: because telnet is fundamentally retarded, and needs to be erased from the pages of history
[11:19] <16SAAK2LL> Guest1926: use ssh generally cause it is more secure
[11:19] <Solus> can someone PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me. It's day 3 and Ubuntu is harder ot remove than the worst of virus' >_<
[11:19] <gordonjcp> Guest1926: along with anyone who uses is, and any system that uses it
[11:19] <Guest1926> 16SAAK2LL:  How to do that. Please tell
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> Solus  delete the ubuntu partition
[11:20] <gordonjcp> Guest1926: alternatively you could just post your username, password and hostname on the front page of slashdot
[11:20] <bassliner> o.O
[11:20] <Solus> Monkey, if only it was that simple, I would have removed it already D:
[11:20] <gordonjcp> Guest1926: security-wise that's much the same using telnet
[11:20] <Guest1926> gordonjcp:  i will register today . PLease don't mind
[11:20] <Solus> I did delete the partitions
[11:20] <quoexl> did you use wubi to install it?
[11:20] <gordonjcp> Guest1926: yeah, it just stops you turning into "Guest<somenumber>", don't worry about it
[11:21] <Guest1926> Thanks a lot !
[11:21] <Solus> but like it left behind a GRUB that won't be deleted by any means possible
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> ah grub
[11:21] <gordonjcp> Solus: what are you trying to install?
[11:21] <invariant> aptitude search '?name(^a2ps$)' returns a2ps:i386, which it shouldn't do. Is there some way to do exact matches only?
[11:21] <Solus> Uninstall, GRUB. Its installation seemed to be trippier that it was supposed to be
[11:21] <Solus> and not it just plain won't go away
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> invariant  do not use aptitude, for a start
[11:22] <16SAAK2LL> gordonjcp: What are u talking about? SSH is in fact much more secure than telnet: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Draft_Documentation/0.2/html/OpenSSH_Guide/sect-OpenSSH_Guide-Security-OpenSSH_In_Action.html
[11:22] <Solus> This is the 4th day I've been up to 6am after at least 10 different ways
[11:22] <invariant> MonkeyDust, thanks, that solved my problem!
[11:22] <Solus> of trying
[11:22] <invariant> MonkeyDust, not.
[11:22] <gordonjcp> 16SAAK2LL: reading isn't your strong point, is it?
[11:22] <phoenix_firebrd> I have come to know that the default ubuntu firewall is disabled by default, so was my system vulnerable  in past and can a network switch firewall sufficient in place of the ubuntu firewall?
[11:22] <SolarisBoy> lol
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> invariant  use apt-get instead
[11:22] <invariant> MonkeyDust, and do what?
[11:23] <quoexl> solus: get a program called dban execute it and all will be gone
[11:23] <gordonjcp> phoenix_firebrd: Linux doesn't need a firewall
[11:23] <SolarisBoy> phoenix_firebrd: if its configured properly and you trust your local network sure
[11:23] <Solus> I almost need a promise on that haha
[11:23] <phoenix_firebrd> gordonjcp: what about the browser?
[11:23] <gordonjcp> phoenix_firebrd: you *might* if you're on a direct connection to the Internet, running a complex server
[11:23] <invariant> MonkeyDust, which option does something which is about the same to aptitude's search feature?
[11:23] <Solus> that'd kill everything o_o
[11:23] <16SAAK2LL> gordonjcp: My fault, there were some messages between ur 2 posts, so never mind
[11:23] <gordonjcp> phoenix_firebrd: what have browsers got to do with firewalls
[11:23] <gordonjcp> 16SAAK2LL: ;-)
[11:23] <quoexl> dban will kill anything guaranteed DOD certified
[11:23] <gordonjcp> quoexl: way overkill
[11:23] <phoenix_firebrd> gordonjcp: I am through a switch which has a firewall, is that sufficient?
[11:24] <gordonjcp> phoenix_firebrd: oh yeah, definitely
[11:24] <Solus> uhh I forgot to mention it was a dual boot, so Windows 7 is active on the computer
[11:24] <quoexl> oh then yer screwed
[11:24] <Solus> Working perfectly fine too
[11:24] <gordonjcp> quoexl: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<drive to wipe> will destroy all the data beyond any hope of recovery
[11:24] <gordonjcp> Solus: there used to be a thing where you had to reinstall the Windows MBR
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> invariant  guess #bash is better place for scripting issues
[11:24] <quoexl> just change the boot.ini to not go to linux anymore if you deleted the partitions
[11:24] <gordonjcp> Solus: I don't know if that's still a thing
[11:24] <phoenix_firebrd> gordonjcp: If the firewall is disabled, Can an person open a port remotely in my computer?
[11:25] <gordonjcp> phoenix_firebrd: no
[11:25] <invariant> MonkeyDust, it's not a scripting issue. You just made a very wrong suggestion.
[11:25] <gordonjcp> phoenix_firebrd: if you're running a normal Ubuntu desktop behind a NAT router, it's just about as secure as you can get
[11:25] <quoexl> phoenix_firebrd: if your firewall is disabled all ports are open to incoming traffic
[11:25] <invariant> MonkeyDust, you shouldn't have said anything and are now trying to save your skin.
[11:25] <gordonjcp> quoexl: doesn't matter, if nothing is listening
[11:25] <Solus> gordonjcp: there was a program called EasyBCD that was specifically designed to correct this, but it doesn't work for me. I swear I have the worst of luck when it comes to technology. I'm not even technologically challenged either
[11:26] <quoexl> gordonjcp: true
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> invariant  it's a bash command, hence my suggestion
[11:26] <gordonjcp> Solus: I don't know anything about Windows, it's just a thing I remember someone having problems with before
[11:26] <invariant> MonkeyDust, every program is a bash command.
[11:26] <phoenix_firebrd> gordonjcp: quoexl What if I am using a bit torrent client?
[11:26] <SolarisBoy> bash command?
[11:27] <invariant> SolarisBoy, it's not a bash builtin.
[11:27] <invariant> SolarisBoy, MonkeyDust is a very confused person.
[11:27] <gordonjcp> phoenix_firebrd: ideally you'd forward some ports from the outside world to your desktop machine, but you'd need to check the bittorrent and router documentation for that
[11:27] <invariant> Or monkey, I am not sure.
[11:27] <SolarisBoy> gotcha lols
[11:27] <quoexl> phoenix_firebrd: your bittorrent client listens on a range of ports
[11:27] <gordonjcp> phoenix_firebrd: other clients will want to connect to your client, which means running a server of sorts
[11:28] <Solus> I've used EasyBCD to delete GRUB. Fixed the MBR. Rebooted. GRUB is back. I listed all the drives on my computer, but I don't see the /boot where Ubuntu was installed. However when I go to set up a new boot method (just for experimental/exploring purposes) I see that /boot is an available place to boot from.
[11:28] <quoexl> Solus: check your windows boot.ini
[11:28] <gordonjcp> I thought the standard way to fix Windows was just to wipe it and reinstall...
[11:28] <phoenix_firebrd> gordonjcp: So without administrator privileges someone cannot access my files other than the ones listed in the torrent client?
[11:28] <gordonjcp> phoenix_firebrd: not unless you've got something very misconfigured
[11:29] <phoenix_firebrd> gordonjcp: right
[11:29] <Solus> Its installed in the MBR, not the OS. I did a wipe. Also I lack a CD Drive. I've been doing everything via USB. quoexl: I'll check that now
[11:29] <phoenix_firebrd> gordonjcp: ty
[11:29] <phoenix_firebrd> quoexl: ty
[11:30] <quoexl> bittorrent is also designed to pass directly through NAT
[11:31] <Solus> err
[11:31] <bassliner> quoexl: err, that statement is just wrong.
[11:32] <bassliner> quoexl: bittorrent consists of a bit more than just one outgoing connection.
[11:32] <Solus> boot.ini apparently doesn't exit for Win7...?
[11:32] <quoexl> oh that was nice of them
[11:32] <bassliner> quoexl: in case of letting things "just work" for the end-user, that is still correct though.
[11:32] <Solus> Referrals said to use EasyBCD to edit the boot options, which I did. But uh it still comes back. It's a plague.
[11:33] <quoexl> theres always dban
[11:33] <Solus> I'm not desperate enough to nuke yet
[11:34] <quoexl> tried googling remove grub from windows 7
[11:35] <ania_> hi
[11:35] <Solus> I did that already. I've done tons of research on this, but alast everything fails. My last hope is creating a bootable usb to run the recovery disc from, which I did. However the OS tells me that its not compatible with my version, yet the disc is produced by the same exact computer
[11:35] <Solus> You've got to love Microsoft
[11:36] <quoexl> then my suggestion holds the most water, backup data on the windows partition dban it and reinstall
[11:38] <Solus> The worst part about it is that its true. I have nothing to save, since it was recently reinstalled. My only concern is, that to reinstall windows I'd need the recovery drive. Can I manage to nuke everything but the recovery drive?
[11:38] <Solus> Well rather partition
[11:38] <Solus> I should say
[11:38] <quoexl> sure dban c:
[11:39] <tkmostt> 16SAAK2LL: connection is too slow ...should i post incomplete results of "sudo apt-get update" in terminal?
[11:39] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: yes, you can
[11:40] <tkmostt> ok
[11:41] <Solus> Researching dban before jumping into anything
[11:41] <Solus> thanks for the suggestion
[11:41] <quoexl> its a DOD certified drive killer
[11:42] <qdb> hello! are adobe going to support flah plugin in linux for processors without sse2 ?
[11:42] <nkt> hello
[11:42] <tkmostt> 16SAAK2LL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1384989/
[11:43] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: that looks good to me, just let it finish and afterwards run "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[11:43] <kutu> bye
[11:44] <tkmostt> 16SAAK2LL: ok ,would wait for it to finish...btw it is running for more than an hour..never ever it was that slow
[11:45] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: is that ur internet connection in general or just this special case?
[11:46] <tkmostt> 16SAAK2LL: the connection is slow now...but still i am able to browse properly...i think it might be a special case ...or maybe the ubuntu server which i am using is down
[11:47] <16SAAK2LL> tkmostt: Hm.. sounds sort of strange
[11:47] <quoexl> tried pinging it?
[11:47] <16SAAK2LL> Anyone around here using 12.10 and can verify these are the correct sources?
[11:48] <quoexl> all my boxes are 10.04
[11:49] <vjy> hi, my laptop(dell inspiron 1420)  has display problem, can anyone please help with right drivers? http://askubuntu.com/questions/221568/which-graphics-driver-will-solve-my-laptop-screen-display-problem
[11:49] <varikonniemi> don't you think that 12.04 would be a reasonable upgrade?
[11:49] <ania_> hi
[11:49] <quoexl> they work
[11:50] <varikonniemi> yeah, "dont fix if it aint broken" is popular :D
[11:50] <quoexl> !it works for me
[11:51] <quoexl> I run business continuity servers
[11:51] <quoexl> upgrade my boxes gotta upgrade the client boxes and hope it works
[11:52] <varikonniemi> i am currently setting up a content server that should have >4T storage, probably in RAID6
[11:52] <quoexl> good luck with that
[11:52] <varikonniemi> and i have come to the conclusion that ubuntu 12.04 is the way to go
[11:52] <FauxFaux> Only 4T?  Why not two discs in raid1?
[11:53] <varikonniemi> i have 2x2T disks
[11:53] <varikonniemi> so adding one 2T
[11:53] <varikonniemi> or 2 for raid6
[11:53] <varikonniemi> is the way i think
[11:54] <quoexl> two in mirror or 7 in raid is the safe way to go
[11:54] <varikonniemi> running 50% waste in raid1 is just too much to sacrifice imo. compared to the cleanliness you get in raid1
[11:55] <varikonniemi> 7 in raid? 3+2 is raid6 ?
[11:56] <quoexl> 7 is old school
[11:57] <quoexl> 7 1 tb drives gives you a 1 tb drive if one fails just replace it will replicate
[11:59] <RJ45-Q> I'm re-tagging arey CD I rip, as although RubyRipper is the best ripper, it sucks so bad at tagging, anyways, I'm trying to tag 80 files as 'Trance Nation - The Collection (MOS)', but they keep tagging as 'Trance Nation', why!?!
[11:59] <Dulcin> Hi I'm having some issues with my video drivers, but can't seem to find a solution. When I installed ubuntu 12.10 it would load to desktop, but not show unity and so - just the wallpaper. Now when I removed fglrx and it works - any idea in what direction I should look?
[12:00] <Dulcin> - and*
[12:00] <16SAAK2LL> Dulcin: What hardware do u use?
[12:00] <Dulcin> I have an ATI video card
[12:00] <RJ45-Q> every*
[12:00] <Dulcin> the exact one slipped my mind, one sec, ill check
[12:00] <Sietsem> I had a problem with my nvidia drivers that I needed to install the linux-headers first
[12:00] <vjy> hi, my laptop(dell inspiron 1420)  has display problem, can anyone please help with right drivers? http://askubuntu.com/questions/221568/which-graphics-driver-will-solve-my-laptop-screen-display-problem
[12:01] <Dulcin> I installed linux-headers through a tutorial, but that didn't seem to help
[12:01] <phibxr> Sietsem: That would be because they are compiled at install. I don't think the ATI-drivers need compiling during the installation.
[12:01] <16SAAK2LL> Sietsem: Yeah, if there is none available for ur kernel you will have to let them built by the installer
[12:01] <Sietsem> Hm, okey
[12:02] <RJ45-Q> I'm re-tagging every CD I rip, as although RubyRipper is the best ripper, it sucks so bad at tagging, anyways, I'm trying to tag 80 files as 'Trance Nation - The Collection (MOS)', but they keep tagging as 'Trance Nation', why!?!
[12:03] <Sietsem> vjy, isn't your display broken? Does it work properly on for example windows?
[12:03] <quoexl> use an _ instead of a -
[12:03] <RJ45-Q> quoexl: but I've used '-' so many times before without any problems!
[12:04] <RJ45-Q> I need to tag with EasyTag only, but when I try Rhthmbox's built-in tagging, it works.
[12:05] <RJ45-Q> but in this situation, I can only use EasyTag
[12:05] <kutu> hello, does anyone knows how to use bengali fonts in libreoffice writer? i select the bengali font name in option but when i start writting the letters are all english not bengali!
[12:05] <RJ45-Q> kutu: change systems Keyboard Locale in settings :)
[12:06] <kutu> thanks!
[12:06] <RJ45-Q> NP ;)
[12:06] <kutu> !!bye for now!!
[12:07] <Dulcin> 16SAAK2LL,  ok so I have an ATI HD 4870
[12:07] <RJ45-Q> kutu: System > Preferernces > Keyboard
[12:07] <RJ45-Q> well, he gone
[12:08] <RJ45-Q> kutu: System > Preferernces > Keyboard
[12:08] <RJ45-Q> is usually for Ubuntu
[12:09] <RJ45-Q> ;D
[12:09] <lapion> how do I switch from amd64 firefox to ix86 firefox ?
[12:09] <lapion> amd64 firefox has no real advantages, except for being a memory hog..
[12:10] <kutu_> RJ45-Q: Can you suggest me some good HTML books?
[12:10] <lapion> 64 ff uses twice the amount of memory x86 uses
[12:10] <RJ45-Q> kutu_: ooh, not that is a good question
[12:10] <RJ45-Q> now*
[12:10] <16SAAK2LL> Dulcin: I am not that familiar with ATI GPUs, anyway, which driver did u use?
[12:11] <RJ45-Q> kutu_: I know several PDFs, but not HTML :(
[12:11] <kutu_> RJ45-Q:please send me one.
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> kutu_  it's not really a book, but this may be useful http://echoecho.com/html.htm
[12:12] <RJ45-Q> kutu_: there might be a PDF to HTML converter in existence, but I couldn't imagine it working very well, considering the big transition in format capabilities.
[12:12] <RJ45-Q> kutu_: heheh, well all my PDFs are... well, I can't say here or I'll get v&.
[12:13] <RJ45-Q> :P
[12:13] <kutu_> Thanks MonkeyDust.@RJ45-Q I asked for HTML learning book
[12:14] <RJ45-Q> kutu_: I have a PDF that teaches of the Linux Command Line, it's so old it's irrelevant now, and it's about a thousand pages long and difficult to understand! :D
[12:15] <Dulcin> 16SAAK2LL, well the default ubuntu drivers, but those did not seem to work properly after installing ubuntu 12.10
[12:15] <Dulcin> 16SAAK2LL, I tried installing the ATI drivers but failed at doing so, I'm giving it another go right now, see if it works
[12:16] <kutu_> RJ45-Q:youre understanding wrong. I want an ebook to learn web designing,not Linux!! :)
[12:16] <RJ45-Q> kutu_: ah
[12:16] <16SAAK2LL> Dulcin: alright, if it fails, please deliver details about how
[12:17] <kutu_> so if know of one please tell me.
[12:17] <RJ45-Q> kutu_: here's an interesting one though, one day I was typing in loadsa crazy stuff in Google, and I stumbled across a slightly hidden away FBI doc! :D
[12:18] <RJ45-Q> I think it had stuff 'bout the psychology of the Occupy Protests, and how they use it to their advantage.
[12:18] <RJ45-Q> I shoulda probably notified Wikileaks, but i was lazy, and still am.
 :Anyway I'll try the site MonkeyDust.
[12:18] <kutu_> Bye
[12:19] <RJ45-Q> c'ya
[12:22] <bampersand> Hi. I'm using 12.04 and my DVD drive isn't working. It ejects fine just doesn't seem to do anything (it worked when I had windows), any ideas? I've googled but most problems are only for when a DVD video isn't working, etc.
[12:23] <16SAAK2LL> bampersand: is it a SATA drive?
[12:23] <bampersand> 16SAAK2LL: I'm not sure
[12:23] <bampersand> I'll check
[12:23] <bampersand> if it is what's the solution?
[12:24] <vjy> Sietsem: yes, my display was not proper when it was with windows vista. it was broken after installing nvidia graphics driver. I thought I could fix this by installing a new OS, but still I am not able to fix this issue
[12:25] <16SAAK2LL> bampersand: well, that is not too easy to say without any information. Does the drive appear during startup (BIOS)?
[12:26] <espnu> hey, i wonder what the current situation of TRIM activated partitions in ubuntu 12.10 / upcoming 13.04 is?
[12:27] <espnu> in 12.04 i had to use a discard option to my harddrive partition. is this something that i'll have to do in 12.10 and probly 13.04?
[12:27] <lucido> I have some problems with the ath9k driver
[12:28] <gnomefreak> espnu: its too way early to  say for sure
[12:28] <gnomefreak> way too early i mean
[12:28] <lucido> wifi keeps disconnecting if I move a few meters away from the router
[12:28] <espnu> hmm ok
[12:28] <lucido> other devices can use the router normally
[12:29] <lucido> its ubuntu 12.10 on an acer aspire 4250 connecting to a tkip aes wpa personal g-only access point
[12:29] <gnomefreak> espnu: also any questions about 13.04 join #ubuntu+1
[12:30] <vjy> Sietsem: interestingly I am not able to capture this issue by print-screen. I have to take a photo to show this display problem
[12:30] <Sietsem> vjy, Maybe your screen just broke in the process
[12:30] <Sietsem> vjy, if you open your BIOS, do you see the problem too?
[12:31] <vjy> Sietsem:yes, yes initially it is all green
[12:31] <gnomefreak> vjy: did you try something like sudo apt-get install scrot ; sleep 5 ; scrot
[12:31] <Sietsem> vjy, then your laptop screen might be broken :/ But have to go to a birthday, bye
[12:31] <Xylon> what are the reasons an installer would keep on loading?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> that gives you 5 seconds to get screen ready
[12:32] <vjy> Sietsem: bye
[12:32] <Xylon> ~-~ been happening to me, it works on my dell but the installer wont install on my vaio
[12:33] <blackshirt> xylon, i think some specific hardware issue ...
[12:33] <vjy> gnomefreak: scrot for screenshot ?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> vjy: yes
[12:34] <vjy> gnomefreak: even if I take screen shot, I have to send it my mail and check from my phone to verify this is ok :)
[12:34] <Xylon> blackshirt: Well there oughta be methods to determine that right? something that would work?
[12:34] <xmb> yo where to find other apt deb sources
[12:34] <Xylon> how should i make the installation work?
[12:34] <vjy> gnomefreak: I have photos of my screen
[12:34] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[12:35] <gnomefreak> xmb: not sure what you mean. did you check in our repos?
[12:35] <vjy> https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B3mtVkJlDxvKZFQtU3RLT1AwRUU
[12:35] <bampersand> 16SAAK2LL, it's a sata dvd drive
[12:36] <vjy> https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B3mtVkJlDxvKVUw2SFR0UHJGZ2c
[12:36] <xmb> i dunno where, im new to ubuntu ... i need for example ' erlang-ex ' and it isnt in 12.10
[12:36] <16SAAK2LL> bampersand: does it appear at startup? is it activated in BIOS setup?
[12:37] <xmb> apt-get .. , and , is there some unstable / experimental /etc/apt/sources.list entries for ubuntu like on debian too ?
[12:37] <bampersand> i'll have to check, i'd assume so. it worked fine with windows.
[12:37] <gnomefreak> xmb: you woul dhave to look on the web but going outside our repos means we dont really support them
[12:37] <vjy> gnomefreak: did you check images ?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> bampersand: you can not compair linux -> windows
[12:38] <gnomefreak> i cant spell today damn
[12:38] <gnomefreak> compare
[12:38] <xmb> where can i get a list of possible ssources ?
[12:38] <Dulcin> 16SAAK2LL, apparently there's a nice wiki here http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Quantal_Installation_Guide which I followed and seemed to work nicely. Hopefully it did what it said it would do :)
[12:38] <gnomefreak> xmb: software center if you are looking in our repos
[12:39] <Inesute> labas
[12:39] <xmb> aha
[12:39] <xmb> yet i installed ubuntu recently and only used cmd apt-get
[12:40] <gnomefreak> xmb: you can use apt-cache search packagename
[12:40] <16SAAK2LL> Dulcin: I am not sure why they used the way to build some package, I think u can simple stop xserver and just execute the run-file
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> xmb  first do apt-get update
[12:40] <xmb> hai gnomefreak
[12:40] <xmb> i know to use apt, but erlang-wx pkg isnt in it
[12:40] <xmb> i need more sources.list entries
[12:40] <blackshirt> xmb, no
[12:40] <16SAAK2LL> Dulcin: u can get latest driver version from here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx
[12:41] <gnomefreak> xmb: search using google or whatever you use but be warned we will not support it
[12:41] <Deadmau5> hello
[12:41] <k1l_> !rootirc | Deadmau5
[12:42] <gnomefreak> KiLaHuRtZ: he said hi. how does root help him?
[12:42] <xmb> hm its aight
[12:42] <BELWOLF> #/join #freenode
[12:42] <vjy> gnomefreak: did you check images ?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> damn kil_ see above
[12:42] <vjy> https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B3mtVkJlDxvKVUw2SFR0UHJGZ2c
[12:42] <vjy> https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B3mtVkJlDxvKZFQtU3RLT1AwRUU
[12:42] <xmb> well
[12:43] <xmb> unwell
[12:43] <xmb> gotta go, lates
[12:43] <gnomefreak> vjy: im sorry what were you trying to d. i thought you wanted a screenshot
[12:44] <gnomefreak> s/d./do
[12:44] <bampersand> 16SAAK2LL, i'm in my bios setup, what exactly am I looking for?
[12:44] <vjy> gnomefreak: no, I want to fix my display problem
[12:45] <16SAAK2LL> make sure the drive appears under the section of SATA devices
[12:45] <gnomefreak> vjy: than the people that told you it could be screen or hardware are most likely correct
[12:45] <bampersand> I can't find anything about sata, only ide
[12:45] <[twisti]> is there an easy way to tell a ubuntu (server 12.04) something like "install all packages that this other ubuntu server 12.04 install has installed" ?
[12:45] <16SAAK2LL> bampersand: can u tell me what ur bios is?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:46] <vjy> gnomefreak: display was broken after a nvidia graphics driver upgrade, I thing I did something to drivers that come with motherboard
[12:46] <bampersand> 'cmos setup utility - copyright (c) 1984-2008 award software' is what it says at the top, i'll try and find some help.
[12:47] <lucido> my ath9k keeps dropping the connection, any k nows bugs with this driver?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> vjy: we cant do anything about that really but first try to go back to old version of drivers
[12:47] <gnomefreak> ill brb
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> bampersand  type sudo dmidecode -t 0|pastebinit and paste the url here
[12:47] <Dulcin> 16SAAK2LL, I downloaded the .run file from the amd website, though when I ran the command: sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb in the tutorial I got some error message, system problem detected... so I ran through everything and I'm gonna reboot now to see if it worked.
[12:47] <SolarisBoy> [twisti]: you can use dpkg --get-selections/--set-selections to do it
[12:47] <bampersand> MonkeyDust, okay let me boot back into ubu.
[12:48] <Zvan> hi, i am having difficulties installing ubuntu.
[12:48] <Zvan> I am trying to dual boot with Windows 7 (which is already installed) and install ubuntu on a separate partition on the same drive, however when I go to install ubuntu, in the partitions list it does not show me the 30 GB partition I created for ubuntu using windows 7 disk management tools. Any workarounds?
[12:48] <mih1406> Hi, I have a .PO file and I want to use that specific file with the application? For testing purposes..
[12:48] <Trskl> hello
[12:48] <Trskl> Somebody speak lang from Malaysia pls ?
[12:48] <vjy> gnomefreak: thanks, I will try
[12:49] <bampersand> monkeydust, 16SAAK2LL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1385124/
[12:50] <ricardo_> hi
[12:50] <Johnsoma> Hi everyone whenever i try to update it doesnt actually update anything anyone know what my prob is/
[12:51] <ricardo_> hi, i need to remove the screen keyboard at the login screen
[12:51] <ricardo_> how can i do that??
[12:52] <wildc4rd> formatting a USB stick on a win7 laptop to create an install 'disk' for Ubuntu on a netbook, which file system is recommended?
[12:52] <16SAAK2LL> bampersand: plase run in termianl as root: sg_map -i
[12:52] <16SAAK2LL> bampersand: if not installed, run apt-get install sg3-utils before (as root, too)
[12:52] <cfhowlett> wildc4rd: ntfs
[12:53] <wildc4rd> ta
[12:53] <[twisti]> SolarisBoy: thanks, ill try that
[12:53] <minimec> Johnsoma: Can you try this command in a console? "sudo apt-get --configure -a" The tries to finish a unfinished previous update job
[12:53] <SolarisBoy> [twisti]: sure yw
[12:53] <bampersand> 16SAAK2LL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1385132/
[12:54] <16SAAK2LL>  bampersand: so it is recognized by the OS
[12:54] <Johnsoma> minimec it says "E: Command line option --configure is not understood "
[12:54] <bampersand> 16SAAK2LL, it opens/ejects fine too. I wonder what the problem is.
[12:55] <bampersand> I put a CD/DVD in and the light on the front just flashes, it makes noises but never (seems) to do anything.
[12:55] <minimec> Johnsoma: You're right. Damn I don't remember the command correctly... Let think a moment ... ;)
[12:55] <16SAAK2LL> bampersand: that is what it would do when it was not connected by SATA, too, or did you open/close the tray by using OS functionality or by pressing th ebutton on the drive?
[12:55] <bampersand> I pressed the button on the front
[12:56] <bampersand> `eject` works too
[12:56] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[12:57] <ricardo_> hi, i need to disable the screen keyboard at login screen
[12:57] <Johnsoma> minimec i think its dpkg –configure -a
[12:58] <16SAAK2LL> bampersand: so please start "dmesg | tail" and put in a CD/DVD and post the output
[12:58] <minimec> Johnsoma: ;) definitly... ;)
[12:58] <minimec> Johnsoma: Did it do something?
[12:58] <Johnsoma> it says error needs an option input
[12:59] <juggle> hi
[12:59] <[twisti]> SolarisBoy: that didnt work
[12:59] <bampersand> 16SAAK2LL, htp://paste.ubuntu.com/1385140/
[12:59] <bampersand> no mention of cd etc
[12:59] <Abhijit> i accidentally changed the permission on /var. please tell me whats the default permission of /var and all its subfolders?
[12:59] <Abhijit> help please
[12:59] <ricardo_> i need to disable the keyboard at login acreen, but onboard settings and dconf dont do that
[12:59] <[twisti]> i did sudo dpkg --set-selections <packages.txt
[12:59] <juggle> how to open a pdf file in terminal
[12:59] <disharmonic> hey
[12:59] <[twisti]> and packages.txt is a text file with the output of the other system
[12:59] <juggle> no in terminal with terminal command
[12:59] <[twisti]> was that wrong ?
[12:59] <SolarisBoy> you would need to as well run 'sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[12:59] <16SAAK2LL> bampersand. u inserted a disk?
[13:00] <bampersand> yep.
[13:00] <minimec> Johnsoma: ok. let's make it simple. Do 'sudo apt-get update', then 'sudo apt-get upgrade'. If there is some unfinished job, there will be an output, indicating, what to do next.
[13:00] <Johnsoma> ok
[13:00] <[twisti]> ah ok, thanks, its doing it now
[13:01] <[twisti]> 496 newly installed :D
[13:01] <bampersand> 16SAAK2LL, when the disc is inserted the dvd reader led flashes
[13:01] <bampersand> that's the only thing that seems to be happening.
[13:01] <SolarisBoy> [twisti]: np =)
[13:02] <Johnsoma> minimec i think my sourcelist might be messed up
[13:02] <Johnsoma> i want to make a new one using generating sourcelists but i dnt know how really.
[13:02] <16SAAK2LL> bampersand: but we talk about the first drive here, right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1385132/
[13:02] <Johnsoma> should i just click all on ubuntu branches and updates and etc?
[13:02] <bampersand> 16SAAK2LL, yeah.
[13:04] <minimec> Johnsoma: Ok. You can create another one with this link http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[13:04] <susanna> I cant get the buttons to change following the directions
[13:05] <16SAAK2LL> bampersand: I am slowly out of idea, sometimes there seem to be problems when drives are set as slaves and not masters (see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1950008 ), but I am not sure about that issue; so I am sorry, but I guess I cannot really help you.
[13:05] <Johnsoma> minimec yeah im on there i just wantt o know do i click all things? like in update and every other field?
[13:05] <minimec> Johnsoma: Also 'sudo mv /etc/apt//sources.list.d /etc/apt/sources.list.d.old'. That's the folder, where your ppa are configured.
[13:05] <bampersand> 16SAAK2LL, okay thanks for your help.
[13:06] <Abhijit> i accidentally changed the permission on /var. please tell me whats the default permission of /var and all its subfolders?
[13:06] <susanna> 12.10 using the config editor and editing the key and it still doesnt move over??  it is a new install of the system
[13:07] <jrib1> Abhijit: what did you execute?
[13:07] <Johnsoma> minimec so do i just click everything on the surce list generator?
[13:07] <minimec> Johnsoma: I would take "main,restricted,universe, multiverse, Security-updates, recommended updates, partner repo(for skype)"
[13:07] <Johnsoma> and thats it?
[13:08] <RichardSmallman> Abhijit: you could take a look at an ubuntu core image for permissions
[13:08] <Abhijit> jrib1, chmod -R 777 /var
[13:08] <jrib1> Abhijit: reinstall
[13:09] <Johnsoma> minimec so only do those 5 and no other ones and my sourcelist will be fixe?
[13:09] <minimec> Johnsoma: That will give you all you basically need. You can always modify the list afterwards. Maybe just moving the 'sources.list.d' folder will do, as normally an untouched sources.list file will not break...
[13:09] <iceroot> Abhijit: never ever use -R 777
[13:09] <Abhijit> jrib1, :-o cant i just chmod -R 644 or something?
[13:09] <Abhijit> :o
[13:09] <bekks> Abhijit: No.
[13:09] <Abhijit> bekks, why?
[13:09] <Johnsoma> ok thanks
[13:09] <bekks> Abhijit: Since there are hundreds of file in there, with different permissions.
[13:09] <Johnsoma> i dont really understand what a source list is
[13:09] <Abhijit> but there is nothing in my /var
[13:09] <jrib1> Abhijit: you can't know what the original permissions were.  You would need some reference.  It's much faster to just reinstall
[13:09] <jrib1> Abhijit: then you have more problems
[13:10] <bekks> Abhijit: Having an empty /var means you have a broken system.
[13:10] <minimec> Johnsoma: It is the list with all the links to the software repositories.
[13:10] <Abhijit> jrib1, i mean the defautl permission? the one when we install fresh ubuntu?
[13:10] <bekks> Abhijit: That wont help you, since your /var is empty.
[13:10] <Abhijit> ok
[13:11] <RichardSmallman> Would anyone know what I have to tell apt on an ubuntu-core 12.04 image to add cross compilation packages (e.g. gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf) ?
[13:11] <ricardo_> exit
[13:11] <skeils> How do you disable the keyboard and mouse in Ubuntu?
[13:11] <Johnsoma> minimec is it bad if i just include everything?
[13:11] <Johnsoma> just to be on the safe side
[13:11] <minimec> Johnsoma: Now... added repositories are not added to that list anymore (it used to be like that some time ago), but in that 'sources.list.d' folder, I mentioned before. So the sources.list is the ubuntu default after installation.
[13:11] <skeils> How do you disable the keyboard and mouse in Ubuntu?
[13:12] <skeils> hello. h
[13:12] <bekks> skeils: After doing it, how would you enable them again? :)
[13:12] <skeils> shortcut ke
[13:12] <bekks> skeils: With a disabled keyboard?
[13:12] <Johnsoma> minimec because i have many of the programs listed in there if i dont click them they wont fail to work or update?
[13:12] <skeils> they have a wiundows program. you hit enter two times and it enables it again
[13:12] <skeils> windows has a few programs. does linux?
[13:13] <skeils> how do i disable linux keyboared
[13:13] <minimec> Johnsoma: I would not(!) add 'Proposed - Pre-released Updates' and 'Backports - Unsupported Updates'
[13:13] <skeils> minmec: how do i disable my keyboard on linux?
[13:13] <bekks> skeils: By pulling the cable. I've never heard of someone disabling the keyboard by intent.
[13:13] <skeils> i have a notebook
[13:13] <bekks> !patience | skeils
[13:13] <SolarisBoy> you can disable the keyboard in xorg.conf afaik
[13:14] <skeils> ok thank you
[13:14] <bekks> SolarisBoy: And you have no chance to use it again without restarting X.
[13:14] <skeils> windows you can hit enter two times to disable and two time to enable the keyboard
[13:14] <minimec> Johnsoma: Compare your current sources.list with the one you create now. If you were basically happy with the original one, start with that...
[13:14] <vicium> $ ./craftbukkit.sh
[13:14] <vicium> -sh: 38: ./craftbukkit.sh: not found sadface :(
[13:14] <SolarisBoy> he said he wants it disabled right?
[13:14] <skeils> disable it yes
[13:14] <vicium> i chmod +x'd it
[13:14] <SolarisBoy> k so there you go
[13:14] <bekks> SolarisBoy: And he wants it to be enabled by a shortcut again.
[13:14] <skeils> ok thank you very much
[13:14] <Johnsoma> i just dont how or understand it so its hard to know whats right and whats wrong.
[13:14] <bekks> skeils: Thats what he said, too.
[13:15] <skeils> ok :)
[13:15] <skeils> bekks: thank you
[13:15] <vicium> is my error permission based?
[13:15] <lucido> buxville?
[13:15] <Johnsoma> minimec so i shouldnt add the programs that i recognize on here?
[13:16] <jokke> hi, i'm having trouble importing mp4 files in shotwell. It causes shotwell to freeze. Is this a known problem? Maybe with a fix
[13:16] <jokke> ?
[13:17] <disharmonic> shotwell plays videos?
[13:17] <vicium> How can I saerch for apt packages?
[13:17] <gordonjcp> jokke: everything causes shotwell to freeze
[13:17] <vicium> !java
[13:17] <jokke> disharmonic: at least it should import them
[13:17] <bekks> vicium: apt-cache search packagename
[13:17] <minimec> Johnsoma: It's basically a list of links. You can always add some entries afterwards. Start 'small', and again maybe first try to move the 'sources.list.d' folder and do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'. Maybe some stuff you added in the software sources manager was wrong.
[13:17] <jokke> gordonjcp: aalternatives?
[13:17] <SolarisBoy> bekks: we disable the mouse like that on some kiosk panoramic video systems
[13:18] <jokke> fspot has mono dependencies
[13:18] <SolarisBoy> http://code.google.com/p/liquid-galaxy/source/browse/gnu_linux/etc/X11/xorg.conf?r=9c5a34e96a15d9c2ea1a54e94b73d8ff88e57c9a
[13:18] <gordonjcp> jokke: I use mv, cp and gqview
[13:18] <jokke> :P
[13:18] <jokke> what about tags
[13:18] <Johnsoma> whats the code to open sourcelist agian?
[13:18] <minimec> Johnsoma: the command would be "sudo mv /etc/apt//sources.list.d /etc/apt/sources.list.d.old"
[13:18] <Johnsoma> sudo gtsk?
[13:18] <gordonjcp> I'd love to get rid of the big stupid "open in shotwell" bar whenever I browse my camera in nautilus
[13:18] <bekks> SolarisBoy: And you cant enable them again without restarting X. Which is not always wanted - except on a kiosk system.
[13:18] <mih1406> How can I run an application in Enlgish even my Ubuntu is using Arabic language?
[13:18] <jokke> gordonjcp: uninstall shotwell?
[13:19] <gordonjcp> jokke: nope, it still leaves the bar in nautilus
[13:19] <Johnsoma> when i enter that minimec it states: mv: cannot stat `/etc/apt//sources.list.d': No such file or directory
[13:19] <SolarisBoy> heh
[13:19] <jokke> gordonjcp: wtf..
[13:19] <bekks> jokke: digikam
[13:19] <minimec> Johnsoma: the command would be "sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d /etc/apt/sources.list.d.old"
[13:19] <minimec> Johnsoma: There was a '/' too much
[13:19] <addisonj_> hey, so have a weird issue with a remote host. I have inbound SSH access just fine but I cannot get any outbound internet access
[13:20] <bas85> Nog nederlanders hier?
[13:20] <jokke> bekks: yeah, digikam is awesome, but it's a little TOO packed with features for my needs, and besides i'd like a gnome application
[13:20] <llutz> !nl | bas85
[13:20] <Abhijit> i just reset everything to drwxr-wr-x
[13:20] <vicium> God damnit, I cant figure out why I cant run a .sh file. It worked last time i tried (about a year ago) and I've chmod +x'd the file. And I made sure java is installed....
[13:20] <Abhijit> i just reset everything to drwxr-xr-x*
[13:20] <Johnsoma> still says mv: cannot stat `/etc/apt/sources.list.d': No such file or directory
[13:21] <vicium> I get ./craftbukkit.sh - -sh: 52: ./craftbukkit.sh: not found
[13:21] <SolarisBoy> vicium: whats the error you get?
[13:21] <vicium> regardless
[13:21] <SolarisBoy> oh
[13:21] <bekks> jokke: I havent found a single gnome application fitting my needs - I dont use all that digikam features, but only the ones I want/need.
[13:21] <vicium> Also, something is diferent in putty now, I used to be able to hit uparrow for the latest input, cant do that anymore :(
[13:21] <bekks> Abhijit: That wont bring back the content of /var
[13:21] <jokke> yeah.. still it seems pretty bloated to install kde just to use digikam
[13:21] <dcherniv> vicium, what about bash craftbukkit.sh
[13:22] <bekks> jokke: You dont have to install KDE for using digikam. Install digikam only.
[13:22] <vicium> was just thinking about that :d let me try
[13:22] <minimec> Johnsoma: Ok. So you don't seem to have that folder. What is 'ls /etc/apt' showing you? blue color should indicate the foldeers.
[13:22] <Abhijit> bekks, there were content inside var. i thought you are asking abour docuemnt root content for web server.
[13:22] <vicium> Yup.......
[13:22] <bas85> @viciium you can start java application with the java -jar command
[13:22] <vicium> Can I change from bash?
[13:22] <dcherniv> vicium, sounds like you're running plain sh instead of bash
[13:22] <vicium> Aha ok
[13:22] <bekks> jokke: And since there is no sane, comparable solution like digikam in gnome - thats the best choice then.
[13:22] <vicium> Is there a way to change it to the enviroment im more used too?
[13:22] <vicium> I.E uparrow for latest input etc
[13:22] <dcherniv> vicium, export SHELL=bash
[13:23] <brontosaurusrex> type bash
[13:23] <vicium> That's it?
[13:23] <SolarisBoy> chsh -s /bin/bash
[13:23] <SolarisBoy> if you would like it to stick
[13:23] <llutz> vicium: /bin/sh is a link to /bin/dash by default
[13:23] <bekks> Abhijit: You still have a broken /var, since not everything in there was 755.
[13:23] <dcherniv> llutz, oh my... no
[13:23] <vicium> Thanks alot guys, one final question I forgot howto 'close' a screen? without terminating obviously
[13:24] <dcherniv> llutz, ah my dash... mm yes
[13:24] <vicium> Ctrl+x?
[13:24] <llutz> dcherniv: debian/ubuntu default since years
[13:24] <Tam[1]Manyak> fuck you
[13:24] <Tam[1]Manyak> dflþlf
[13:24] <Abhijit> bekks, i will know as i go and then i will change the permission. problem is this is my production machine and i can not afford to reinstall anything. no time for that.
[13:24] <dcherniv> llutz, misread it my bad
[13:24] <Johnsoma> minimec im not sure
[13:24] <Abhijit> bekks, now onwarda i will always use public document root in my /home
[13:24] <bekks> Abhijit: You broke your production machine then. Do you have a backup?
[13:24] <Johnsoma> minimec one second please.
[13:24] <Abhijit> bekks, yes i have backup
[13:24] <bekks> Abhijit: public webserver root in /home is - no good idea.
[13:25] <Abhijit> :-(
[13:25] <bekks> Abhijit: Just grab your backup of /var then and repair your messed up box.
[13:25] <Abhijit> bekks, it all started when i need to change permission on /magento/var and i was inside magento so i typed /var instead of var/
[13:25] <Abhijit> bekks, no i dont have that kind of backup. only backup of data
[13:25] <SolarisBoy> were you root?
[13:25] <Abhijit> yes
[13:26] <Abhijit> with sudo
[13:26] <bekks> Abhijit: So you have no backup of your production machine. Set it up again.
[13:26] <Abhijit> okey. :'-(
[13:26] <Johnsoma> ssweet thanks minimec my update is nwo actually updating
[13:26] <SolarisBoy> do you have another machine you can fix perms from? like compare the toplevel dirs?
[13:26] <Abhijit> no
[13:27] <SolarisBoy> o womp womp
[13:27] <minimec> Johnsoma: Happy for you. Do you know where the problem was?
[13:27] <Johnsoma> minimec no idea... lol i had a lot of 408 errors
[13:27] <vicium> Not sure if its allowed but i'll ask again, I'm not sure howto phrase myselves when googling it, I want to "minimize" a screen (the screen package, not an actual physical screen) & return to console
[13:27] <vicium> ctrl+c shuts the screen app down
[13:27] <SolarisBoy> vicium: gnu screen?
[13:27] <ktu> cái này cũng hay :))
[13:28] <Johnsoma> minimec so should i create a new sourcelist and add in all the programs i have? so they update too or will it somehow do it by itself?
[13:28] <minimec> Johnsoma: So the server was not reachable...
[13:28] <vicium> I'm not sure SolarisBoy actually... maybe this can help you identify it "screen java -Xms2048M"
[13:28] <vicium> its the partial of my .sh file
[13:28] <Tam[1]Manyak> s.a
[13:28] <Tam[1]Manyak> KaRdesLerým
[13:28] <SolarisBoy> yes gnu screen
[13:28] <ktu> ai là ng Viet Nam nào :))
[13:28] <Tam[1]Manyak> meRhabaLar
[13:29] <Tam[1]Manyak> :D
[13:29] <Tam[1]Manyak> naber lan
[13:29] <Tam[1]Manyak> turkler
[13:29] <FloodBot1> Tam[1]Manyak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:29] <Johnsoma> minimec i dont know it just would run threw updates error an then it would show all the same programs in need up being updated.
[13:29] <Tam[1]Manyak> :D
[13:29] <SolarisBoy> vicium: you should be able to just backround it like any other bash program with CTRL+Z but you may be looking to attach and re-attach no?
[13:29] <k1l_> !tr | Tam[1]Manyak
[13:29] <bekks> !vn | ktu
[13:29] <minimec> Johnsoma: If it is working again and you were happy with your system, then there is no need to change that, is there?
[13:29] <iceroot> vicium: ctrl + a and then d  to dettach the current screen session
[13:30] <SolarisBoy> vicium: CTRL+A+D will *detach* but keep the screen and it's processes running in a normal setup
[13:30] <ktu> ??
[13:30] <vicium> Ah, thats what I was looking for, thanks
[13:30] <iceroot> vicium: screen -r  to reattach the screen
[13:30] <Johnsoma> No i just am curious if it will still update all the programs i have on it when they need an update.
[13:30] <ktu> mới sài thử cáu IRC này
[13:30] <Johnsoma> Or if i just changed the list and the updates that are needed are just being ignored.
[13:30] <susanna>  Ubuntu tweek has closed unexpectedly   has anyone else had this problem??
[13:30] <SolarisBoy> and screen -dr to attach to a screen that you may have gotten disconnected from vicium
[13:30] <iceroot> vicium: to see a list of the screen commands  ctrl +a and then ?
[13:30] <SolarisBoy> "
[13:31] <vicium> Okay, great, cheers, both of you, much appreciated
[13:31] <SolarisBoy> ctrl+a+" >> list screen windows || screen -ls list screens
[13:31] <bekks> ktu: /join #ubuntu-vn
[13:31] <SolarisBoy> vicium: sure
[13:31] <vicium> I have a collection of printscreens of commands i need to learn on my 3rd monitor :D they'll for sure make the list
[13:32] <SolarisBoy> lol
[13:33] <k1l_> Johnsoma: can you pastebin a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[13:33] <jokke> bekks: maybe you're right, it just bugs me to download 131 MB of packages, which most are shared libs not used for anything else.. Installed size is 522 Mb.. Shotwell is what, 2 MB download and maybe 10 installed..
[13:33] <ktu> kênh đó lạnh như cái chùa
[13:33] <hfef> Hi all. I have a question about mounting NTFS partitions: I can do it from the gui without further password-requests as admin-user, but not as a regular userin 12.04. What group do I have to assign to the user to enable him mounting NTFS partitions?
[13:34] <bekks> jokke: Do you have a very smal hard disk? Like 1GB? hard disk space is about 20 cents per gigabyte currently.
[13:34] <Johnsoma> k1l http://paste.ubuntu.com/1385234/
[13:34] <bekks> Or even less.
[13:34] <cfhowlett> hfef: don't think you need to change the group, just the user permissions ...
[13:34] <k1l_> Johnsoma: that looks good. every is updated on aour 12.04
[13:35] <Johnsoma> yeah but what about other programs i have? like gimp etc? are they still goign to update even though i didnt add them into sourcelist?
[13:35] <cfhowlett> hfef: see advanced settings / user privileges
[13:36] <iceroot> Johnsoma: gimp is part of the main repo
[13:36] <minimec> Johnsoma: They are part of the ubuntu main/universe/multiverse repository... They will be updated.
[13:36] <jokke> bekks: yeah i have a 256Gig ssd. :P Also i'm currently online using gprs at roughly 7kB/s.. So 131 Mb is alot.. :P
[13:36] <Johnsoma> ohh sweet thanks so much for the help you guys.
[13:36] <iceroot> Johnsoma: so you dont have to put an entry for every program, the entry a repositires
[13:36] <k1l_> Johnsoma: if you installed them out of the official ubuntu repositories they get updated with security patches
[13:36] <Johnsoma> i get it.
[13:37] <k1l_> Johnsoma: most programs dont get upgraded to a new version like frm version 2,4 to 3.0 within a ubuntu release. that comes mostly with a new ubuntu release.
[13:37] <hfef> cfhowlett: thanks, where can I find advanced settings/user privileges? do i need to install the gnome system tools?
[13:37] <k1l_> Johnsoma: exceptions are webbrowsers. they get upgraded direct from ubuntu
[13:37] <Johnsoma> you guys think i shuld update from 12.04 to the newest one or does it matter?
[13:37] <bekks> jokke: The harddisk is about... 2000 times larger than what you want to download. The only reason _could_ be yourdownload speed. And still, digikam would be worth it.
[13:37] <hfef> But wouldn't that only assign a group (with the respective privileges) to the user?
[13:38] <k1l_> Johnsoma: that depends on if you want a stable release or a release with the newer programs
[13:38] <jokke> hehe yeah i get you. I know my hard disk is large enough.
[13:38] <bekks> Johnsoma: That question is a clear sign of staying with 12.04 for five years.
[13:38] <Johnsoma> lol ok bekks.
[13:38] <Tam[1]Manyak> miCrop
[13:38] <Tam[1]Manyak> hos geldýn kaRdesým
[13:38] <miCrop> :D
[13:39] <Tam[1]Manyak> Amýna koyým bunlarýn :D
[13:39] <Johnsoma> why the new one is more complicated/
[13:39] <bekks> !tr | Tam[1]Manyak
[13:39] <miCrop> NerLere geLdým ben :D
[13:39] <Tam[1]Manyak> miCrop
[13:39] <Tam[1]Manyak> GöRdunmu
[13:39] <Tam[1]Manyak> :D
[13:39] <k1l_> Tam[1]Manyak: miCrop  stay english here please
[13:39] <Tam[1]Manyak> k1l_ Sanane olm
[13:39] <Tam[1]Manyak> baslattýrma
[13:39] <miCrop> :D
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> the channel is under attack
[13:39] <brontosaurusrex> Johnsoma: 12.04 is lts
[13:39] <Tam[1]Manyak> burda takýlcam
[13:39] <Tam[1]Manyak> Sýzene olm ya
[13:39] <FloodBot1> Tam[1]Manyak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:39] <Tam[1]Manyak> sýze neeee !
[13:39] <miCrop> atýLcaz
[13:39] <miCrop> :D
[13:39] <jokke> i'll get to a wlan later today so i'll get it then.
[13:39] <Tam[1]Manyak> dagýtýrým bak burayý
[13:39] <bekks> Johnsoma: It isnt more complicated, but just not supported that long.
[13:39] <Tam[1]Manyak> Sock5 Le getirtirmeyýn bený
[13:39] <Tam[1]Manyak> :D
[13:40] <miCrop> :D
[13:40] <k1l_> !ot | Tam[1]Manyak miCrop
[13:40] <Tam[1]Manyak> býz miLitanýz
[13:40] <ThinkT510> Johnsoma: lts releases are 5 years support, normal releases are 18 month
[13:40] <Tam[1]Manyak> baRzaný taLabaný
[13:40] <jokke> bekks: you had any problems importing mp4 files?
[13:40] <Tam[1]Manyak> :D
[13:40] <minimec> Johnsoma: As a experienced and longtime Ubuntu/Debian user, I stay with 12.04 LTS (long time support) on my 'main' computer.
[13:40] <Tam[1]Manyak> miCrop
[13:40] <Tam[1]Manyak> :D
[13:40] <Tam[1]Manyak> Koptum
[13:40] <Tam[1]Manyak> :D
[13:40] <FloodBot1> Tam[1]Manyak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:40] <k1l_> !ops | Tam[1]Manyak
[13:40] <miCrop> Sikcem bunLarý :D
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> !ops Tam[1]Manyak miCrop
[13:41] <Tam[1]Manyak> MonkeyDust
[13:41] <Johnsoma> i get it im glad i choose this one by accident then. lol
[13:41] <bekks> jokke: I never used shotwell, and sI had no problems using digikam so far.
[13:41] <ThinkT510> minimec: sorry to nitpick but its long term support (not time)
[13:41] <jokke> bekks okay
[13:41] <minimec> ThinkT510: thx ;)
[13:41] <N105> hello i have ubuntu 10.10, what is the best way to update to 12.10
[13:42] <ThinkT510> N105: reinstall 12.10 afresh
[13:42] <k1l_> N105: macke backups and install new.
[13:42] <bekks> N105: Reinstall, since 11.04 isnt supported as well.
[13:42] <jokke> N105: uninstall and install arch
[13:42] <BluesKaj> N105, clean install
[13:42] <bekks> jokke: Wrong approach.
[13:42] <jokke> never have to go through the pain of reinstalling again
[13:42] <jokke> :)
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> N105  fastest, cleanest and most efficient way, is fresh install
[13:42] <bekks> jokke: And never had a working system, either. But thats OT in here.
[13:42] <k1l_> N105: else you would have to go every single upgrade step from 10.10-11.04-11.10-12.04-12.10
[13:42] <hfef> cfhowlett: would adding the user to the 'fuse' group enable mounting ntfs-3g partitions?
[13:43] <N105> MonkeyDust: i have try it, but then i have a group rescue mode because of windows 7
[13:43] <hfef> from the gui
[13:43] <cfhowlett> hfef: sorry I know nothing of "fuse"
[13:43] <Guest65503> how do i formar my mp3 player on ubuntu?
[13:43] <jokke> formar?
[13:43] <pfo_> f
[13:43] <cfhowlett> Guest65503: format?
[13:43] <Guest65503> format
[13:43] <pfo> f
[13:43] <jokke> ah
[13:43] <jokke> mkfs
[13:43] <Johnsoma> THANKS guys got to go!
[13:43] <jokke> cfhowlett: mkfs.vfat or whaterver
[13:43] <hfef> I will just try it out then, using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Privileges for suggestions
[13:44] <Guest65503> I am not very clued up about this stuff lol so whats mkfs or vfat?
[13:45] <bekks> Guest65503: mkfs.vfat is a single command creating a VFAT file system.
[13:45] <SolarisBoy> mkfs utility to create filesystems on a block device and vfat is a filesystem Guest65503
[13:45] <minimec> Guest65503: There is a graphical interface for that. Install 'gparted' in the software center.
[13:46] <Guest65503> ahh okay thanks guys
[13:46] <hfef> or I will just go through  /usr/share/polkit-1/
[13:47] <minimec> Guest65503: beware. YOu will ahve to choose the right 'device'. Check the size of the available devices. A device will be shown as /dev/sdb or similar. NOrmally /dev/sda is you promary harddrive...
[13:48] <jokke> Guest23651: if you use mkfs be careful to format the RIGHT block device. check using lsblk
[13:49] <jokke> Guest23651: and start using the terminal. It's faster, geekier and you actually learn how unix works in the process.
[13:49] <SolarisBoy> +1
[13:50] <hacklvwar> may i speak chainese?
[13:50] <hacklvwar> chinese?
[13:50] <bekks> jokke: Guest23651 is the wrong one. :) Guest65503 already left.
[13:50] <jokke> no you may not
[13:50] <jokke> oh
[13:50] <jokke> :P
[13:50] <bekks> jokke: He may, although almost noone will understand him.
[13:50] <ThinkT510> hacklvwar: english only here, but there is a chinese channel
[13:50] <dcherniv> hacklvwar, yes you may. just not in here
[13:50] <bekks> !cn | hacklvwar
[13:50] <jokke> i filter out the left/join messages
[13:50] <hacklvwar> my english is bad
[13:51] <jokke> so is mine
[13:51] <jokke> join the clu
[13:51] <SolarisBoy> my cat is bad
[13:51] <jokke> b
[13:51] <jokke> my cat is evil!
[13:51] <SolarisBoy> haha
[13:51] <bekks> And my cat is offtooic :>
[13:51] <jokke> trololololol
[13:51] <bekks> offtopic even.
[13:52] <cfhowlett> !ot
[13:52] <jokke> lemme try something..
[13:52] <jokke> !man lsblk
[13:52] <SolarisBoy> !delaed reactions
[13:53] <ThinkT510> !brain | jokke
[13:53] <jokke> ah ok
[13:54] <delac> bcm4311 on 12.04. on default b44m ssb and wl (installe with jockey) are run. lan works, wlan does not show on nm. rmmod b44,ssb and modprobe b43 = lan dead, wlan shows but whines about missing firmware. how to proceed?
[13:55] <dcherniv> delac, probably install the firmware
[13:55] <bekks> delac: Install the missing firmware.
[13:56] <delac> dcherniv, bekks : and which one that would be?
[13:57] <minimec> delac: I would first do 'jockey-gtk' in a terminal. Maybe Ubuntu has a firmware file for you. Otherwise, you would have to look on the internet for some firmware file.
[13:58] <bekks> !wifi | delac
[13:58] <ThinkT510> !b43 | delac
[13:58] <delac> minimec: I got the wl from jockey. no?
[13:58] <delac> I got my modprobe ideas from that page, but cnat get any further than that
[13:59] <bekks> delac: Then install the firmware as described in the link you've been given.
[13:59] <minimec> delac: jockey-gtk is the same as 'additional drivers' in the system configuration.
[14:00] <minimec> delac: You did---
[14:00] <delac> minimec: yes, I did
[14:01] <mih1406> What is this? Gtranslator starts without the ability to see the translation part.
[14:01] <lucido> I'm having wifi range issues with the ath9k driver. I have to be withing 4 meters of the ap to get a connection. Anyone seen this before?
[14:01] <Farside_ftw> Hey akll
[14:02] <Farside_ftw> all*
[14:02] <delac> bekks: when you say install firmware, do you mean the fwcutter method? I would like to try either the broadcom or open drivers first a bit
[14:02] <Farside_ftw> I had a question about booting an installed version of ubuntu from USB. I'm not using the live disk-- I actually used the USB as the mounting point.
[14:03] <Farside_ftw> When GRUB loads I select Ubuntu-- the flash screen loads but times out and I'm thrown into a shell. Any ideas how to get Ubuntu to load?
[14:03] <bekks> delac: then dont use the b43 driver :)
[14:04] <delac> bekks: I'm at bit loss here. Using it is the only way to get networkmanager to even see the wlan...
[14:04] <Farside_ftw> Also, FYI, Network Card is inop until I can access the GUI
[14:04] <bekks> delac: Then use it. I've never had problems with it.
[14:05] <bekks> Farside_ftw: Log in to the gui, and setup a systemwide network connection in the network manager.
[14:05] <mih1406> Here is a screenshot: http://imagebin.org/237141
[14:06] <Farside_ftw> bekks: Well that's the problem, the GUI won't load. As stated, I'm thrown into a shell when booting from USB.
[14:06] <Alb_boy> hi
[14:06] <krz> does ubuntu support bumblebee or nvidia optimus?
[14:06] <bekks> Farside_ftw: Do you have sufficient space left on your USB stick?
[14:06] <Farside_ftw> Plenty.
[14:07] <ThinkT510> krz: not officially
[14:07] <Farside_ftw> bekks: It's a 16gb USB with about 11-12gb left over.
[14:07] <dcherniv> Farside_ftw, load into recovery, remove quiet splash in grub and see where it chokes, most likely unable to mount root partition
[14:07] <bekks> krz: bumblebee isfor nvidia optimus. and you can install it using ubuntu.
[14:07] <Farside_ftw> dcherniv: I believe that's the problem... What I can remember-- it said something about mounting /root
[14:09] <codephobic> hi, got an urgent problem. Linuxdcpp moved my downloads directory into another folder, I tried moving it back but nautilus just hanged during the transfer. I don't want to lose my files, would killing nautilus and restarting it be safe?
[14:09] <Farside_ftw> dcherniv: I think the underlying issue is a read/write issue for the mounting point... but not exactly sure.
[14:09] <minimec> delac: Ok. 12.10 proposed the 'wl' driver and you intalled it. If you want to use the 'b43' dirver,  you probably might want to block the 'wl' driver in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[14:10] <dcherniv> Farside_ftw, nah most likely something to do with /dev/ name for the flash in ubuntu
[14:10] <krz> I'm thinking of getting an origin sly pro http://www.originpc.com/Laptops/Professional/EON17-SLX-Pro/?TAB=FEATURES&ACTIVE=TRUE&SYSTEMID=19 and planning on dual booting / using ubuntu linux 95% of the time. you think there may be any hardware incompatibilities?
[14:10] <dcherniv> Farside_ftw, see what exactly it says
[14:10] <krz> sly=slx
[14:10] <sdfasdf> How do i delete all files ending with  .txt in a folder ?
[14:11] <Farside_ftw> dcherniv: *Sigh* That's what I don't want to do... But, I'll be back with your answer, bud. Thanks!
[14:11] <codephobic> I think I made a really big mistake upgrading from 12.04 LTS.
[14:12] <bekks> krz: Looks like a gaming notebook.
[14:12] <krz> ya
[14:12] <krz> i code
[14:12] <bekks> krz: coding is not gaming.
[14:12] <krz> web development (ruby on rails). but plan on dual booting to windows for the occasional game
[14:13] <krz> am currently coming from osx
[14:14] <bekks> krz: I'd buy a reasonable HP business laptop instead a gaming laptop "for the occasional game".
[14:14] <yeats> sdfasdf: (backup first to prevent unwanted deletions, but) 'rm /path/to/folder/*.txt'
[14:14] <krz> bekks: why have two laptops when you can have one
[14:15] <bekks> krz: Who said two?
[14:15] <bekks> krz: I said "reasonable HP business laptop".
[14:15] <krz> bekks: and for work?
[14:15] <bekks> krz: "reasonable HP business laptop".
[14:16] <ThinkT510> krz: looks like that model forces you to use raid
[14:16] <krz> ThinkT510: any problems with raid support?
[14:17] <krz> ThinkT510 http://www.originpc.com/Configurator/l/l2.aspx?SYSTEMID=19 raid support is set to none, by default
[14:17] <ThinkT510> krz: no idea, i've never used it but i've seen a few here with raid problems
[14:18] <ThinkT510> usually they don't know how to configure it
[14:18] <krz> I'm thinking of having a single SSD for storage. no raid config
[14:18] <ThinkT510> good
[14:18] <krz> and nvidia single dedicated 680m 4gb gpu
[14:19] <ThinkT510> krz: i'd avoid multiple graphics cards too
[14:19] <xrlgf> hi, folder shared between 2 ubuntu PC is long, i set bcast as first position in smbd.conf, but still taking 5 to 10 minutes before working, any tips pls ?
[14:21] <krz> ThinkT510: does bumblebee (or other) support optimus (battery saving) without any problems? http://www.nvidia.com/object/optimus_technology.html
[14:21] <ThinkT510> krz: never used it, i'd definitely avoid optimus
[14:21] <hfef> does anyone have tips: I want to make a new polkit action (for mountin one of the ntfs partitions in my computer)
[14:22] <SierraAR> Does Ubuntu have anything similar to this: http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-live/connecting/win-computer
[14:22] <hfef> where should I place it
[14:23] <krz> ThinkT510: my concern here is. its a hardware intensive laptop. so without some king of GPU energy management (optimus support), battery life can be significantly reduced if not plugged into an outlet
[14:24] <yeats> krz: this may be a better question for #hardware (imho)
[14:24] <ThinkT510> krz: optimus is simply about switching from nvidia gpu to onboard intel (thus saving power)
[14:25] <ThinkT510> krz: if you only have nvidia (without another onboard intel card) then you likely won't have optimus
[14:26] <alo21> hello
[14:26] <alo21> I would like to report a bug on a ubuntu's site
[14:26] <loridas13> hello
[14:26] <krz> ThinkT510: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-680m comes with optimus technology. so i think it has an onboard intel card
[14:26] <alo21> how can I do this?
[14:27] <bekks> alo21: Out of curiousity, which bug did you experience?
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> !bug | alo21
[14:27]  * husien offline!
[14:27] <xrlgf> hi,detection of folder shared between 2 ubuntu PC is long, i set bcast as first position in smbd.conf, but still taking 5 to 10 minutes before working, any tips pls ?
[14:27] <bekks> xrlgf: Use NFS for sharing files between linux clients.
[14:28] <alo21> bekks: there are the wrong packages here https://merges.ubuntu.com/b/blueman/
[14:29] <yeats> alo21: how are those wrong?
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> alo21  better state your blueman issue
[14:30] <mirak> when i clone my screens the unity laucnher disappears
[14:32] <krz> bekks: business hp laptop for gaming, won't go far in a few years
[14:34] <mschr> hi guys... precise has some issue, agreed? i get numerous 'something crashed, send report' whilst working desktop. i suspect it is some of the notification apps but often i cant tell
[14:35] <mschr> the worst thing i have come across is, how the evolution has suddenly been torn out from standard desktop install and replaced by the thunderbird mozilla client
[14:35] <yeats> mschr: apport should tell you what crashed
[14:36] <mschr> evolution suffers a great deal of issues, namingly importing preferences and mailboxes.. Ive worked my way through it and set it up, basically from scratch
[14:36] <mschr> but now -
[14:36] <alo21> I asked in ubuntu-motu and maybe they are fixing the problem
[14:36] <mschr> addressbook cannot perform write options :/
[14:37] <mirak> i am going to have to leave ubuntu
[14:37] <mirak> it became garbage
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> mirak  try something different from unity
[14:38] <mschr> if i import, say a .vcf contact it claims, cant write at times
[14:38] <mirak> MonkeyDust, yeah
[14:38] <xmb> mirak, what u plan to use
[14:38] <mirak> monkey like mate i guess
[14:38] <mirak> xmb, something that works
[14:38] <xmb> hmm
[14:38] <speter> hi all
[14:38] <ThinkT510> mirak: mate isn't supported here
[14:39] <k1l_> mirak: why dont you try xfce, lxde etc? leaving ubuntu because of unity is really not necessary
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> mirak  mate is a mint thingy
[14:39] <k1l_> mirak: and just ranting in here wont help anyone
[14:39] <mirak> i just can't use vdpau without hardware acceleration, and I need composite to be disabled for it to work well, and if composite is disabled, canonical had the great idea to not support unity without composite
[14:39] <TheMadDrizzle> I've got a conky question - I have it set for ' own_window_type override ' but when conky execs, it overrides everything.  If I open .conkyrc and comment that line out, save it, and uncomment it and reload conky, it will attach to desktop, and do exactly what I want it to.  Can anyone tell me what's going on with my conky and how to fix it?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> mirak  it may be great for many other users, just not for you
[14:40] <mirak> k1l_, because i didn't asked for Gnome 2 to not be supported. I could tolerate unity but forcing us to use 3D acceleration is just mocking us.
[14:40] <DALKEYTH> ciao
[14:40] <mirak> MonkeyDust, no it's not because we don't get proper video acceleration
[14:41] <DALKEYTH> !list
[14:41] <k1l_> mirak: gnome2 flaming is the wrong adress here. better try the gnome guys
[14:41] <mirak> MonkeyDust, i don't see the point of making the distribution regressing
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> mirak  message received, but this is not the right place
[14:41] <ThinkT510> mirak: gnome devs stopped developing gnome2, hence it is no longer in the repos
[14:41] <mirak> MonkeyDust, but canonical would still have gone with unity even if gnome didn't went to gnome-shell
[14:42] <mirak> if it's not the right place then where is it ?
[14:42] <k1l_> mirak: that is not true and not the right place to  discuss this
[14:42] <JediAEL> i am looking for someone who is here regularly, very knowledgeable in unix commands, variations of unix / linux based OSs, that can help someone like me who knows nothing about it. ...
[14:42] <mirak> if you don't listen people who use the distribution what is the point ?
[14:42] <JediAEL> i have been a windows user since 1996
[14:42] <ThinkT510> mirak: unity is just a different shell to gnome-shell (both are built on gnome3)
[14:42] <mirak> I use ubuntu since Hoary, or Warthy i don't remember
[14:43] <k1l_> mirak: that is a support channel. not a "but i want it this way and nothing else" demanding channel
[14:43] <ThinkT510> mirak: this is a support channel, we don't develop ubuntu
[14:43] <JediAEL> i just bought a laptop with Windows 8 , aka Windows 7 RT aka Vista 8, i want to dump windows after this Windows 8 infringement on the User Friendly user.
[14:43] <mirak> ThinkT510, yes but how can you break video acceleration support and give no alternative other than using another desktop ? that's totally ridiculous. how do you expect people to follow in this conditions ?
[14:44] <bekks> JediAEL: Then just install Ubuntu.
[14:44] <JediAEL> i downloaded Virtualbox last night
[14:44] <ThinkT510> mirak: you are addressing me as if i have a hand in developing ubuntu, i don't
[14:44] <mirak> ThinkT510, well then i am asking for support. How can i use clone screens with unity ?
[14:44] <k1l_> mirak: its not working for you but other users. so stop beeing a kiddie flaming and file a bugreport on launchpad
[14:44] <bekks> JediAEL: You want to drop Windows, what do you want to do with vbox then?
[14:45] <mirak> the launcher just disappears, but it works on 12.04 (without 3d acceleration since i am not forced to use it)
[14:45] <TheMadDrizzle> JediAEL: Why would you use virtual box if you want windows gone?
[14:45] <JediAEL> bekks i have several older copies of Ubuntu on cd back in new york, where all my software, backup and 99% of my items are
[14:45] <brontosaurusrex> JediAEL: try more distros, vbox is a good way
[14:45] <mirak> k1l_, it works for who ?
[14:45] <bekks> JediAEL: You dont need vbox for inserting a CD and just copy your data back.
[14:45] <TheMadDrizzle> JediAEL: Just download a new copy of Ubuntu?
[14:45] <bekks> mirak: For me, e.g.
[14:45] <JediAEL> well understand this, im only familiar with windows so far, i dont even know how to format this laptop hdd yet and i dont have any operating system OSs on the side thus far.
[14:46] <TheMadDrizzle> JediAEL: The Ubuntu startup disk will walk you through it with absolutely no problems.
[14:46] <bekks> JediAEL: Just insert the Ubuntu installation cd, reboot from CD, and follow the instructions on screen.
[14:46] <ThinkT510> JediAEL: practicing in a vm is a great place to start
[14:46] <JediAEL> great problem is i dont have an Ubuntu disc here
[14:47] <bekks> JediAEL: You have to burn one.
[14:47] <mirak> bekks, what works for you ?
[14:47] <bekks> mirak: Unity.
[14:47] <mirak> bekks, how much efforts do you have to put in to make it work ?
[14:47] <mirak> bekks, did you upgraded or did a clean installation ?
[14:47] <TheMadDrizzle> JediAEL: So it seems that your fairly happy with Ubuntu in a VM, right?  So what's the main question then?
[14:47] <bekks> mirak: 2 Minutes. I didnt like the terminal font.
[14:47] <D_Russ> i have a 12.04 install alongside windows (dual boot) i want to get rid of the windows partition and give ubuntu all of the harddrive space. Do i need a boot repair after i do so?
[14:47] <JediAEL> bekks is there a URL in which to download to a directory ?
[14:47] <bekks> JediAEL: ?
[14:47] <mirak> bekks, what graphic card do you use ? what is your xorg.conf ?
[14:48] <JediAEL> TheMadDrizzle i would like to start that way to ensure i HAVE an OS i can use, rather than a laptop i cannot use.
[14:48] <mirak> bekks, does it work with vdpau ? does it work in clone mode ?
[14:48] <minimec> JediAEL: First question would be. Will my laptop be 100% supported by ubuntu. I mean it's a brand new machine... I would test ubuntu on an USB stick on that machine.
[14:48] <bekks> mirak: I dont have a xorg.conf, I am using an Intel graphics card (and nvidia on another box). One box was upgraded, one box was a clean install.
[14:48] <TheMadDrizzle> JediAEL: I am 99% sure if your laptop is more than a year old it will work right out of the box.
[14:48] <bekks> mirak: What do you mean by "clone mode"?
[14:49] <JediAEL> its a new laptop
[14:49] <TheMadDrizzle> JediAEL: If you have an NVIDIA card, you might have to specifiy extra drivers, but that may be about it.
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> mirak  if it's specifically a vdpau issue, you may want to report a !bug
[14:50] <bekks> mirak: Do you mean "clone one monitor to another"? If so, I do not waste my second monitor :)
[14:50] <TheMadDrizzle> JediAEL: So do you have a spare 4gb USB stick you can put an image onto?
[14:50] <JediAEL> im so noob to tech hardware / software terms, but i love writing html docs, and been a mIRC user since 1996, mirc helper for several years.
[14:50] <mirak> bekks, please just answer the question
[14:50] <TheMadDrizzle> JediAEL: I bring one to work with me and try to get people to try Ubuntu every chance I get
[14:50] <bekks> mirak: Please just clarify what you are asking.
[14:50] <mirak> bekks, i clone a tv and a monitor, your remark is not relevant
[14:50] <JediAEL> TheMadDrizzle ill look, i left mine in new york, maybe i can borrow my gf's if i can find it.
[14:51] <bekks> mirak: Well, then my answers arent relevant for you and I will save your from them.
[14:51] <mirak> bekks, i asked if your unity works in clone mode.
[14:51] <mirak> bekks, then don't pretend you are here to help
[14:51] <yeats> !attitude | mirak
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> mirak  know when to stop
[14:51] <JediAEL> found a 16gb thumb drive, ill check to see how much room is spared
[14:51] <D_Russ> i have a 12.04 install alongside windows (dual boot) i want to get rid of the windows partition and give ubuntu all of the harddrive space. Do i need a boot repair after i do so?
[14:52] <ThinkT510> mirak: you asked about clone mode, he wanted you to explain what you meant so he could answer your question
[14:52] <bekks> JediAEL: You will have to reformat it when using it as an installation media.
[14:52] <TheMadDrizzle> JediAEL: If at all possiable I would store that data elsewhere and use the whole disk instead of fucking with dual partitions on a stick
[14:52] <k1l_> mirak: file a bug (or look if there is already one) on launchpad. that is the first adress
[14:52] <bekks> ThinkT510: Answers are irrelevant, as he stated.
[14:52] <16SAAK2LL> D_Russ: What do you mean with boot repair?
[14:53] <mirak> ThinkT510, no he said something irrelevant like cloning monitor is useless. that's an irrelevant and irritating answer
[14:53] <bekks> JediAEL: Dont you have a CD/DVD drive in your laptop?
[14:53] <JediAEL> i hear u bekks, ill have to wait till she gets home then
[14:53] <ThinkT510> mirak: what was he meant to think when you just say "clone mode"?
[14:53] <bekks> mirak: I said, it is useless to ME. Dont take things personal if you just dont like the answer.
[14:53] <D_Russ> 16saak2ll: the instructions i found online says that i should remove the windows partition using a live cd and that after i do so i might need to reinstall grub2
[14:54] <minotaur> when i remove the printer progrome, It tells me the ubuntu desktop would be removed too, why?
[14:54] <JediAEL> yes i have a cd burner, havent used it, still dont know what software it will use.
[14:54] <mirak> bekks, if it's irrelevant to you then why you don't keep that for yourself ?
[14:54] <Dr_Willis__> D_Russ:  I wouldent think removeing windows partions would break grub. Unless you also resize the linux partions
[14:54] <16SAAK2LL> D_Russ: do you plan to enlarge ur ubuntu partition or do you want to use it as a data partition?
[14:54] <Dr_Willis__> D_Russ:  if the uuid of your partions change. that can cause issues. some gparted operations can change the UUID
[14:55] <bekks> mirak: Then please dont hilight me and dont tell lies about what I said. Dont mix it up with what you understood. And now lets move on.
[14:55] <minimec> D_Russ: After having deleted the Windows partition, I would do 'sudo update-grub' before rebooting the computer. The bootloader will see, that the window install is gone and regenereate a bootlist whitout windows.
[14:55] <k1l_> mirak: since you are not acceptable sind the first sentence in here. will you only make further  trouble? then leave please
[14:55] <mirak> ThinkT510, monitor in clone mode is monitor in clone mode
[14:55] <Dr_Willis__> D_Russ:  but even then, that boot-repair tool should be able to fix it all
[14:55] <D_Russ> i plan to expand ubuntu
[14:55] <JediAEL> i heard my friend reading off reviews of WIn8 calling it Vista 8 saying that Win 8 causes conflicts in double booting with alternative OSs or something on that order
[14:55] <Dr_Willis__> D_Russ:  id have a live cd/boot-repair live cd handy just in case.
[14:55] <bekks> JediAEL: Just download an Ubuntu CD and burn it with one of the zillion burning applications in windows.
[14:55] <ThinkT510> mirak: i hope somebody smarter than me can help you
[14:56] <mary1> sera !list
[14:56] <bekks> JediAEL: And Vista/Win7 work pretty fine when dualbooting.
[14:56] <Dr_Willis__> !burn
[14:56] <k1l_> !list > mary1
[14:56] <yeats> !it | mary1
[14:56] <Dr_Willis__> i forget the name of the various ISO burner tools ive used in windows over the years. Infrarecorder i recall is one
[14:56] <16SAAK2LL> D_Russ: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ResizingPartition
[14:56] <JediAEL> lol bekks, can you offer me a URL that for downloading the latest Ubuntu OS? or something user friendly for the beginner? with a new computer...
[14:56] <D_Russ> thanks guys
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> !manual | JediAEL
[14:58] <JediAEL> bekks Windows 8 gives a return of 7 when typing //say $os , it is Windows 7 RT aka Windows 8 but people are calling it Vista 8 because of the bad reputation of Vista OS and how Win 8 is as buggy as Vista
[14:58] <bekks> JediAEL: I dontcare how peoplecall it. I just know dual booting works up to Windows 2012.
[14:58] <JediAEL> ty ubottu
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> JediAEL:  tools on windows include imgburn, and infrarecorder  and others --> http://infrarecorder.org/
[14:59] <bekks> JediAEL: And just click on "Download" on http://www.ubuntu.com
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> JediAEL:  if you have 64bit hardware you may want to use the 64bit version of ubuntu also. That confuses some people
[15:00] <tieinv> in windows7 right click your iso image , open with, windows disc image burner
[15:01] <JediAEL> i cannot even find my system information, Win 8 is not user friendly at all imo
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> i dont recall the burn iso being default in windows 7 ;) but i tend to install Infrarecorder on every windows install i have.
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> JediAEL:  if its a new machine. i would bet its 64bit ;)
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> 'user friendly - depends on the user' ;)
[15:02] <JediAEL> most likely :)
[15:02] <bekks> JediAEL: Then take a look at the bill.
[15:02] <JediAEL> lol true Dr_Willis, depending on knowledge acquired
[15:03] <genio_> <3
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> im getting so used to android - i want a lot of its features put in Ubuntu. ;)
[15:05] <ThinkT510> !brainstorm | Dr_Willis
[15:05] <bekks> Dr_Willis: You're on Android 4.2?
[15:06] <boatman> Hello everyone, I have a problem installing Ubuntu 12.04LTS on my computer, anyone could help me?
[15:06] <16SAAK2LL> boatman: just ask
[15:06] <Farside_ftw> OK I'm back
[15:07] <ThinkT510> boatman: depends on the problem
[15:07] <Farside_ftw> After a long struggle, I was able to royally destroy my entire filesystem on hd0 and fd0
[15:07] <Farside_ftw> A little research and recovery later, now back to being able to use Windows.
[15:08] <Farside_ftw> Now, here we are at the beginning of everything and I should plainly ask this question: Is it possible to install Ubuntu from USB to USB?
[15:08] <makillo> i will kill myself
[15:08] <bekks> Farside_ftw: Yes.
[15:08] <makillo> i hate ubuntu
[15:08] <makillo> gentoo is the best
[15:08] <k1l_> makillo: please keep this channel clean for support
[15:08] <ThinkT510> makillo: we only deal with support here
[15:09] <Farside_ftw> bekks: Is there anything I should do to prep the USB for boot? (Outside of configuring BIOS)
[15:09] <boatman> I just made my pendrive a Live USB, all is ok, I boot in from bios, I watch a window with some logos at the down center of the screen, and then I see the kernel going down quicly, until my keyboard, mouse (and other things) switch on. Then, nothing happens
[15:09] <bekks> Farside_ftw: Normally, you dontr have to.
[15:09] <makillo> sorry it was my friend
[15:09] <boatman> Only I have is a kernel screen, like frozen
[15:09] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | boatman
[15:10] <Farside_ftw> bekks: Well, I have been having issues all day. Windows effectively destroyed my FS on my 16GB flash drive, so I have to reinstall it. It's a bit of a hassle to get anything to go. However, should I be able to reinstall Ubuntu on my flash drive and run into the same issue where it throws me into insmodsh, how do I get out of there and boot to the Ubuntu OS?
[15:11] <boatman> Thanks ubottu, I already do this, but now, after the install, when I boot Ubuntu, all I get is some weird lines all over my screen, like a graphic error
[15:11] <bekks> Farside_ftw: I completely did not understood the second part. Yes, you can install Ubuntu on an USB stick.
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> boatman:  ubottu  is a factoid robot.. not a person. ;)
[15:12] <Farside_ftw> bekks: To address the second part: I had installed usblive --> usb.. When trying to boot, the splash would load and crash. I would be thrown into the insmodsh with very little to work with.
[15:13] <16SAAK2LL> !
[15:13] <Farside_ftw> bekks: What I'm trying to do is to get around that into the actual OS.
[15:13] <boatman> lol, sorry, I'm a noob here, just starting on gnu/linux
[15:13] <tozen> Dr_Willis: :D
[15:13] <tozen> boatman: dont worry what the problem?
[15:14] <bekks> Farside_ftw: Get around what?
[15:14] <bekks> Farside_ftw: What do you mean by "insmodsh"?
[15:14] <Farside_ftw> bekks: being thrown into that shell. I'd just like to be able to complete the boot :)
[15:14] <Farside_ftw> bekks: Give me 1 sec, let me show you...
[15:15] <bekks> Farside_ftw: Did you use nomodeset yet?
[15:15] <boatman> I don't get to start ubuntu after installation in nomodeset mode, all I get are some weird lines all over the screen, like and old NES game when it was badly insert on the console
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> boatman:  whats your video chipset/card?
[15:16] <boatman> I have a Nvidia GTX 560ti 448c
[15:16] <Farside_ftw> bekks: I have no idea what that is.
[15:16] <Farside_ftw> bekks: When trying to google it, all I see are Perl references.
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> boatman:  if the system booted once using  the nomodeset option, then you CAN use the nomodeset option again to get to a workable desktop on the installed system. THen install the proper nvidia drivers.
[15:16] <Farside_ftw> bekks: But looks to be about right. I have the basic Linux cmds at my disposal when in the shell.
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> boatman:  or you could just try installing the package 'nvidia-current' from the shell if you can
[15:17] <Farside_ftw> bekks: However, I'm still unable to fully boot to the GUI.
[15:17] <boatman> how can I do that, dr_willis? I only booted the system in nomodeset when I was on the live cd, at the installation
[15:17] <Farside_ftw> bekks: Do you suggest I try intalling just the 32bit version of Ubuntu?
[15:17] <bekks> !nomodeset | Farside_ftw
[15:18] <bekks> Farside_ftw: I am not suggesting 32bit installations for 15 years now :)
[15:18] <Farside_ftw> bekks: Thanks :D
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> boatman:  i belive the nomodeset wiki page tells you. You basically hit 'e' at the grub menu and add in the nomodeset option btween the 'quiet splash' options. :) ie:  'quiet nomodeset splash' or use 'noquiet nosplash nomodeset' perhaps
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> boatman:  that will use nomodeset for that SINGLE boot
[15:18] <johannes__> Hi can anny 1 help me?
[15:19] <Farside_ftw> bekks: I'm not sure nomodeset is required, as I'm able to boot to the live disk.
[15:19] <girxulon> What's best, windows 7 or ubuntu?
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> boatman:  if you dont see a grub menu at boot. hold the SHIFT key as it boots
[15:19] <16SAAK2LL> !question |  johannes__
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> girxulon:  pointless question. It depends on ones personal needs
[15:19] <bekks> Farside_ftw: Just try it then.
[15:19] <DJones> !poll | girxulon
[15:19] <johannes__> I am trying to install adobe flashplayer on xubuntu 12.10 but how. I am new on linux
[15:19] <Farside_ftw> bekks: OK, unetbootin is done with another install live disk. Going to try the entire process again. I'll msg you if/when successful/unsuccessful :)
[15:20] <Farside_ftw> bekks: Thanks for your help.
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> johannes__:  use the package manager tools.. and it should install it.
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> johannes__:  the 'xubuntu-restricted-extras' package may install flash and other stuff you most likely want
[15:20] <16SAAK2LL> johannes__: see http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Adobe_Flash
[15:20] <boatman> I see, then, when I'm in, I can install the nvidia drivers so I can start up the system normally?
[15:20] <DJones> girxulon: You've asked in the Ubuntu support channel, we're likely to be biased in favour of Ubuntu
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> boatman:  yep.
[15:21] <boatman> thank you sir, I will try that now
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> boatman:  i used to have to do it that way. but now a days my nvidia cards dont require me to mess with nomodeset ;)
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> but they are all at least a yeasr old cards.
[15:21] <johannes__> Oh ok thanks it worked :)
[15:22] <16SAAK2LL> johannes__: No problem, you are welcome
[15:22] <johannes__> Damn i really like this xubuntu :)
[15:22] <tozen> ;)
[15:23] <johannes__> But can i run leagu of legends and that on linux?
[15:23] <anonymous> hello
[15:23] <Guest78807> do toy w ant to DDos a site
[15:23] <boatman> Dr_Willis: How lucky, I have expent this weekend formatting and reinstalling ubuntu to found a solution, a last questions, when you speak me about the grub, grub is where you can get going to the recovery mode, isn't it?
[15:24] <ThinkT510> johannes__: windows games might run in wine (but usually better to dual-boot)
[15:24] <ThinkT510> !appdb | johannes__
[15:24] <Guest78807> i have Anonymous OS
[15:24] <bazhang> not supported here Guest78807
[15:24] <16SAAK2LL> johannes__: For dualboot see http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Dualboot
[15:24] <DJones> Guest78807: DDos activities are illegal and go against freenode policies, don't ask questions like that here
[15:25] <DJones> Guest78807: Plus Anonymouse OS isn't supported here
[15:25] <16SAAK2LL> he´s quit
[15:26] <BluesKaj> !grub | boatman
[15:27] <girxulon> DJones: Are you now?
[15:27] <DJones> girxulon: Am i what?
[15:28] <ace_me> I get invalid argument near char 3: sudo setfacl -R -m u:www-data:rwx -m u:myuser:rwx data/a_writable web/uploads/ cache log
[15:32] <gosc_CBA> Hi
[15:32] <mirak> i am trying mate, byebye unity
[15:32] <16SAAK2LL> !question | gosc_CBA
[15:33] <theo_> Hi all. How to get Chinese simplified characters to show in Dilphin file manager pls? Thnx
[15:33] <theo_> Dolphin File Manager
[15:34] <ace_me> any ideea why I get invalid argument near char 3 when I try : setfacl -R -m u:www-data:rwx -m u:myuser:rwx data/a_writable web/uploads/ cache log
[15:34] <ace_me> is mentioned that -m
[15:36] <jrib> ace_me: pastebin full input and output
[15:37] <ace_me> setfacl: Option -m: Invalid argument near character 3
[15:37] <ace_me> setfacl -R -m u:www-data:rwx -m u:myuser:rwx data/a_writable web/uploads/ cache log
[15:37] <ace_me> jrib ^
[15:38] <jrib> ace_me: are you actually typing "myuser"...?
[15:38] <ace_me> no is the user on my account
[15:38] <jrib> ace_me: just copy and paste what you are actually doing to a pastebin... that may yield some clues.  Also, to troubleshoot, try just one -m at a time
[15:38] <ace_me> maybe www-data is not good on bluehost
[15:38] <girxulon> DJones: Yes
[15:39] <ace_me> ok
[15:39] <jrib> ace_me: sure, if you don't have a www-data user, then that would explain it
[15:39] <nerd> is SElinux recommended ?
[15:39] <jrib> !apparmor | nerd
[15:39] <ace_me> how to find what user I have jrib ?
[15:39] <ace_me> is a shared hosting
[15:39] <jrib> ace_me: getent passwd
[15:40] <raven> how to create mp3-chapters in audacity?
[15:40] <jrib> nerd: you can use selinux on ubuntu, but last time I checked, ubuntu seems to be setup to use apparmor by default
[15:40] <lollko_> export ? :)
[15:40] <lollko_> raven: ^^
[15:40] <lollko_> or save as?
[15:41] <16SAAK2LL> nerd:  I guess selinux is more common on fedora
[15:41] <raven> lollko_ there are no chapter marks in my mp3 then
[15:41] <yeats> !selinux | nerd
[15:42] <lollko_> raven: ahm
[15:43] <nerd> so that means if i am to use selinux with ubuntu will face probs ? as by default ubuntu uses different framework i.e. apparmor ?
[15:43] <lollko_> i dont know...ask google ;)
[15:43] <nerd> nice info thanks :)
[15:48] <yeats>  
[15:49] <johannes__> Guys 1 more question dualboot is it like running windows and linux at the same time?
[15:49] <bekks> johannes__: No.
[15:49] <bekks> johannes__: Dualbooting is like choosing wether you want to boot Linux or Windows.
[15:50] <ruan> it's having both at the same time
[15:50] <ruan> and being able to choose between them
[15:50] <johannes__> So i cannot like run linux and then install a game from windows
[15:50] <mschr> im a quit
[15:50] <johannes__> On the linux bot
[15:51] <ThinkT510> !appdb | johannes__
[15:51] <bekks> johannes__: Correct.
[15:51] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, I'm trying to get virtualization on my Ubuntu box with libvirt but I don't see anywhere I can install or start up libvirtd. I have the manager and everything installed but it says I need to have all this running. Anybody know what I need to do?
[15:51] <mschr> johannes__: dont like windows, like ubuntu :)
[15:53] <DeltaHeavy> johannes__: In my experiences they run slower, look worse (There's no DX), and I find it generally not worth it. I think it's best to run naitive Windows apps that use that amount of technology and resources on Windows.
[15:54] <DeltaHeavy> Is the libvirt-bin service the same as libvirtd?
[15:54] <JemSoft> hey there,
[15:56] <compdoc> DeltaHeavy, I just install qemu-kvm and virt-manager, and its done
[15:56] <compdoc> you have to add yourself to the libvirtd group
[15:56] <Wolseinstein> Hello everyone; Is there a multiple code that I can upload & upgrade & then autoclean and autoremove the unused temp files via terminal? possible to create a comb in a single line?
[15:56] <DeltaHeavy> compdoc: I already installed both of those and I'm still getting errors like "KVM not available". I started the program with gksu.
[15:56] <JemSoft> qemu?? wht not virtualbox?
[15:56] <DeltaHeavy> JemSoft: Because I want to use qemu
[15:57] <JemSoft> interesting, I installed it yesterday... but I uninstall it the same day.
[15:57] <compdoc> DeltaHeavy, there is no need to start it. How did you install it?
[15:57] <JemSoft> if you have a manual or any tutorial, could you please share it?
[15:58] <yeats> JemSoft: manual or tutorial for what?
[15:58] <mschr> for the record, virtualbox is excellent
[15:58] <yeats> mschr: different programs for different needs
[15:58] <slackin> he left
[15:58] <yeats> ah
[15:58] <slackin> imo vmware > virtualbox
[15:58] <slackin> :p
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> Wolseinstein:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/20783/how-is-the-tmp-directory-cleaned-up
[15:59] <DeltaHeavy> compdoc: I'm not 100% sure what packages I installed but I recall installing at least the 2 you've mentioned
[15:59] <ThinkT510> slackin: couldn't convince them to open-source could you?
[15:59] <boatman> Doctor_WIllis: Hello again, are you there?
[15:59] <slackin> ThinkT510, I WISH! lol
[15:59] <DeltaHeavy> "Warning: KVM not available. This may mean the KVM package is not installed, or the KVM kernel modules are not loaded. Your virtual machines may perform poorly."
[15:59]  * yeats uses vbox for desktop virtualization and kvm for servers
[15:59] <compdoc> heh. well, 'sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm virt-manager' is all you need to install to make it work
[15:59] <yeats> !kvm | DeltaHeavy
[16:00] <slackin> yeats, yea, same here honestly, kvm on my server too
[16:00] <yeats> DeltaHeavy: sharing that for the link
[16:00] <compdoc> DeltaHeavy, ooh - maybe your hardware does not support kvm
[16:00] <boatman> Dr_Willis: Hey, I'm on Ubuntu nomodeset now
[16:00] <slackin> only reason i use vmware is because of video games, they run better in vmware than virtualbox
[16:00] <yeats> DeltaHeavy: specifically https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[16:01] <compdoc> qemu-kvm is better to run an OS 24/7. I use it for servers
[16:01] <DeltaHeavy> compdoc: It's all really new hardware. Only reason I'm on Ubuntu is because my distro of choice doesn't support my hardware. Since it's so new (3rd gen i5, sabertooth z77 mobo) would that mean it supports it for sure? I've ran virtualization under vbox on Windows and it worked fine.
[16:01] <yeats> DeltaHeavy: read the instructions at the link I just shared
[16:01] <DeltaHeavy> yeats: Thanks for the link
[16:01] <boatman> Anyone could help me? I'm on Ubuntu nomodeset, trying to install my nvidia drivers, but when I go to adittional drivers I get an error
[16:01] <compdoc> DeltaHeavy, go into the bios and enable VT-d, or whatever Intel calls it
[16:02] <yeats> boatman: can you share the error?
[16:02] <Wolseinstein> Dr_Willis, I guess I state my question in a wrong way. I wonder if it's possible to write a multiple command like sudo apt-get update & upgrade & autoclean & autoremove etc...
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> Wolseinstein:  that would be a rather simple bash script.
[16:03] <boatman> yeats: well... in details talks about jockey-gtk 0.9.7-0ubuntu7.1, a crash problem type
[16:04] <DeltaHeavy> compdoc: If 'egrep -c '(vxm|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo isn't returning 0 (it's returning 4) would that option have to already be enabled?
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> boatman:  jockey-gtk is no longer in 12.10 its in a tab under the 'software-sources' tool. OR try installing the nvidia-current package. which should work for most nidia cards
[16:04] <ThinkT510> boatman: were you using ubuntu from a usb stick?
[16:04] <DeltaHeavy> compdoc: Going to go through this guide before I check anyway
[16:04] <Wolseinstein> Dr_Willis,  or even simply is there an article that I can see some usefull terminal commands for begginners? like autoclean or update etc
[16:04] <boatman> I installed my ubuntu 12.04lts from a usb stick, yes
[16:04] <compdoc> DeltaHeavy, guess it is enabled, although there are also other commands to check for vt
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> !apt | Wolseinstein
[16:05] <boatman> and now i'm on my ubuntu fresh install, in nomodeset, trying to installar nvidia drivers
[16:05] <ThinkT510> boatman: oh, sorry i thought you were using it from usb and wanting to keep it on usb
[16:05] <Wolseinstein> Dr_Willis,  thanx
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> boatman:  you do not have one of those dual-gpu-optimus video cards do you?
[16:05] <compdoc> DeltaHeavy, try:  sudo modprobe kvm_intel
[16:06] <boatman> Dr_willis: no
[16:06] <DeltaHeavy> yeats: The /sys/hypervisor/ (second step) directory is empty
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> boatman:  id just try installing the nvida-current package via the terminal and see if it works. ;)
[16:07] <DeltaHeavy> compdoc: FATAL: Error inserting kvm_intel (/lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm-intel.ko): Operation not supported
[16:07] <bekks> DeltaHeavy: sudo modprobe kvm
[16:07] <boatman> well, I'll do that then, maybe it would be easyer if I just install it from the software center?
[16:07] <DeltaHeavy> bekks: That works
[16:07] <bekks> DeltaHeavy: And thats sufficient.
[16:08] <Wolseinstein> Dr_Willis,  This document is what I exactly asked... thank you
[16:08] <Wolseinstein> also one more question: is it possible to drag an item from one of those 4 desktop to another in ubuntu?
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> Wolseinstein:  huh?  click the workspace switcher icon at the left and drag away  if you mean to move windows around
[16:10] <DeltaHeavy> kvm-ok is stating that vmx isn't enabled by my BIOS, guess I'll be back in a few minutes
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> Wolseinstein:  free tip = Press and hold the SUPER key (windows key) to see a list of Unity Keyboard shortcuts
[16:10] <Wolseinstein> Dr_Willis,  Yeah I do it, I i just dont know how to drag an item from one workspace to other
[16:11] <Wolseinstein> Dr_Willis,  I think this super key wont work here as I am booted in gnome desktop with lubuntu
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu uses the LXDE desktop. ;) if you re using   the GNOME desktop then you are not using the LXDE desktop
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> Unity has the SUper Key shortcut. Not sure if gnome-shell does or not
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> not sure how LXDE moves stuff around desktops. I dont use lxde a lot.
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> most likely theres a right click menu item to move it to next desktop
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> Wolseinstein:  So Are you using Unity? Lxde, or gnome-shell ;)
[16:19] <Wolseinstein> I am not sure but i see the LUBUNTU logo while it reboots
[16:19] <ThinkT510> Wolseinstein: screenshot to the recue!
[16:19] <ThinkT510> rescue
[16:20] <mspalmer1> Ah, that worked. Thanks guys! It turns out it was that BIOS setting.
[16:24] <NFisher> hello?
[16:25] <compdoc> you get only 1 question and you waste in on a hello?
[16:25] <compdoc> tsk tsk
[16:27] <Dr_willis_> ;)
[16:29] <Saul111> anyone here?
[16:29] <ThinkT510> Saul111: of course
[16:30] <Saul111> lol, havent EVER seen this channel as empty
[16:30] <Dr_willis_> 1689 people here.
[16:30] <Dr_willis_> not counting the bots.
[16:30] <Dr_willis_> ;0
[16:30] <xbskid> So I'm testing out MaaS with one 12.10 Server VM and 3 node VMs--all reporting as 'Ready', and I can't seem to successfully bootstrap juju. I keep getting 'ERROR No matching node is available.'
[16:31] <xbskid> I see there's an open bug for it, but the proposed workarounds don't seem to improve my situation.
[16:32] <xbskid> I may have found something; I think a default constraint is 512MB RAM, and my VMs are reporting 491 for some reason.
[16:32] <Saul111> Thing is: i just installed privoxy and tor as advised here: bit.ly/Qj6irX . unf. now, it doenst work. When i try to download a file via wget it says:Connecting to localhost|127.0.0.1|:8118... connected. BUT the ip on the downloaded file (whatsmyip.com) is still my genuine one.. any suggestions how i can fix that?!
[16:33] <Dr_willis_> i would guess that you missed a step in the tor setup.
[16:34] <uniderv30> hello. why is using the same applications on the same machine, slower on ubuntu than on debian?
[16:34] <uniderv30> for example vlc plays matroska files normally in debian but in ubuntu it pauses all the time
[16:34] <ThinkT510> uniderv30: graphics driver maybe?
[16:34] <Dr_willis_> run it from a terminal, check for error messages. It could also be configured differntly, or using differnt compiled in options
[16:35] <uniderv30> ThinkT510: same driver
[16:35] <Dr_willis_> vpadu - could be a boost or hinderance.
[16:35] <SolarisBoy> library versions maybe
[16:35] <Saul111> Dr_willis_, well.. i did as advised.. any suggestions?
[16:35] <Dr_willis_> Ubuntu 12.10 Unity setting up tor and tor-email     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3Ocw1YOqG8
[16:35] <uniderv30> SolarisBoy: really? i doubt that makes much difference
[16:36] <Dr_willis_> Saul111,  could be their guide missed a step
[16:36] <SolarisBoy> i think it would if they are using a blatantly older version of some library your app relies on and said library doesn't play the vid as well..
[16:36] <SolarisBoy> but like i said "maybe"
[16:37] <uniderv30> maybe ubuntu is bloated?
[16:37] <SolarisBoy> *library versions maybe*
[16:37] <SolarisBoy> in regards to your vlc comment...
[16:38] <ThinkT510> uniderv30: are you using unity on ubuntu? what desktop on debian?
[16:38] <uniderv30> ThinkT510: kde on both, debian is testing with 4.8
[16:39] <uniderv30> and ubuntu lts with kde 4.8 as well
[16:39] <ThinkT510> uniderv30: any effects enabled on either?
[16:39] <mrlambo> If i install ubuntu on my new system, where do i get drivers for it? i have an asus p8z77 pro motherboard
[16:40] <uniderv30> no. their settings are identical as far as i can tell
[16:40] <Dr_willis_> mrlambo,  depends on your exact hardware. Most drivers will gbe included.. or in the repos.
[16:40] <mrlambo> ok thanks
[16:41] <ThinkT510> mrlambo: most drivers are already in the kernel, you're most likely only need to hunt for graphics or wifi
[16:41] <ThinkT510> ahh, just missed him
[16:41] <ThinkT510> uniderv30: then i'd consider what SolarisBoy said, sounds the most likely issue
[16:42] <uniderv30> seriously doubt it
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> how have you confirmed that it's not?
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> like have you straced or even looked at the libraries being called?
[16:42] <Saul111> Dr_willis_, does not seem as it is, afaik, it should work as described
[16:42] <uniderv30> because it happens in general. its not just vlc
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> i can see that being the case between ubuntu and debian.. easily
[16:43] <SolarisBoy> with "not just vlc" and all
[16:43] <ThinkT510> uniderv30: give us more examples
[16:43] <yeats> uniderv30: I don't think anyone here can speak to the exact differences between implementations of debian testing and ubuntu 12.04, especially as installed on your system - what do you expect?
[16:43] <uniderv30> dragonplayer as well, using gstreamer
[16:44] <SolarisBoy> sounds like libraries...
[16:44] <ThinkT510> uniderv30: again, thats a media player so codecs/libraries
[16:44] <SolarisBoy> +1
[16:44] <uniderv30> SolarisBoy: so newer versions of libraries are ... <- can you fill in the dots?
[16:45] <SolarisBoy> uniderv30: i dont understand the question
[16:45] <SolarisBoy> you need to a) look further into "whats slow/choppy/buggy" like what libraries are called, versions etc
[16:45] <uniderv30> SolarisBoy: whats with ubuntu's libraries that make applications behave slower?
[16:45] <ThinkT510> uniderv30: you'd have to compare what your debian install has with your ubuntu one to find out
[16:46] <SolarisBoy> uniderv30: im not saying thats the case what im saying is it may be beneficial to check
[16:46] <yeats> uniderv30: http://packages.ubuntu.com and http://packages.debian.org - go to town ;-)
[16:46] <BluesKaj> uniderv30, it could be your VLC settings aren't the same on both OSs
[16:46] <SolarisBoy> maybe ubuntu froze debian build at specific version of a library before some fixes were added.
[16:46] <SolarisBoy> and like BluesKaj said it can be that.. but safe to check it out
[16:47] <BluesKaj> VLCs"s options are numerous to say the least
[16:47] <xbskid> BluesKaj: And yet, no gapless playback.
[16:48] <uniderv30> dragonplayer bearly has any options
[16:48] <starwars29> Hi
[16:48] <BluesKaj> xbskid, ??
[16:50] <xbskid> How does one deallocate a node in MaaS?
[16:50] <bekks> xbskid: Whats "MaaS"?
[16:50] <xbskid> bekks: Metal as a Service; feature of Ubuntu Server.
[16:51] <xbskid> Used for mass-provisioning of hardware.
[16:53] <lnxslck> 7j # fedora
[16:55] <fego> lnxslck: try /j #fedora
[16:55] <SolarisBoy> xbskid: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1061869 ;<
[16:56] <lnxslck> fego, yes, it was a typo
[16:57] <fego> :)
[16:59] <xbskid> SolarisBoy: I decided to start from scratch. :)
[16:59] <SolarisBoy> xbskid: nice ;>
[17:02] <Farside_ftw> bekks: Hey you there?
[17:06] <invariant> I have a $HOME/.cache directory. Is that normal?
[17:07] <invariant> If not, where should it normally be located?
[17:07] <Dr_willis_> invariant,  look in it? I belive its perfectly normal
[17:08] <llutz> invariant: its pretty normal as freedesktop.org specifies  if $XDG_CACHE_HOME isn't set to something different
[17:13] <antimo> ciao
[17:13] <antimo> lista
[17:14] <antimo> lista
[17:15] <AndChat-224721> yiu always list every channel antimo ? how weird
[17:19] <Justin_jtb7rmv> hi guys
[17:21] <Katbuntu> Hi
[17:21] <Dr_willis_> hmmm.
[17:22] <Booskill> yop
[17:22] <ElixirVitae> !botsnack
[17:24] <Nibinaear> Hi. I have a Netgear readynas duo. I want to connect to it in Ubuntu how do I do this please?
[17:24] <Nibinaear> In windows I would just map a network drive.
[17:25] <Nibinaear> Forget it I figured it out.
[17:27] <Dr_willis_> ;)
[17:27] <anti-non-free-OS> what is the best verson or distro of the buntu's
[17:28] <ThinkT510> anti-non-free-OS: depends on your needs, only you can answer that question
[17:28] <anti-non-free-OS> this means ill have to try them all :(
[17:29] <vivid> anti-non-free-OS, not difficult, just install the meta packages and select between them on the login screen
[17:29] <Dr_willis_> I suggest just using the normal ubuntu.,
[17:29] <anti-non-free-OS> oh
[17:29] <Dr_willis_> ;)
[17:30] <anti-non-free-OS> thanks vivid
[17:30] <Dr_willis_> !manual
[17:30] <espnu> i installed ubuntu 12.10 some days ago, but i keep ending up with partition problems. read-only errors, and such on my SSD.
[17:30] <espnu> no idea what i do wrong, i did the usual ssd optimizations
[17:30] <espnu> discard and noatime on my ext4 partition
[17:30] <Dr_willis_> espnu,  monitor dmesg output to see if any messages/errors are mentioned.,
[17:31] <vivid> espnu, for solid state, i mount with discard,noatime,nodiratime
[17:31] <Dr_willis_> espnu,   i do the same options as vivid
[17:31] <anti-non-free-OS> yeah im thinking bout upping from 12.04 to 12.10 it seams to work with my hardware better but the programs i use dont seam to work well with my extras i add
[17:31] <espnu> alright, i'll try that vivid
[17:31] <espnu> i shouldn't end up with partition problems if i suddenly reboot right?
[17:32] <vivid> espnu, check dmesg as suggested
[17:32] <Dr_willis_> espnu,  that could cause filesystem curruption that may need a fsck to fix
[17:32] <espnu> okay
[17:33] <cuddylier> What does this column http://puu.sh/1uc3r on netstat mean?
[17:34] <bkc_> cuddylier: try `man netstat` (without the ticks) in a terminal and you'll see :)
[17:34] <cuddylier> bkc_ Is it safe? :P
[17:34] <espnu> oh and aswell, is it possible to maintain sound settings between devices if i switch device? i happen to use headphone jack and speakers everynow and then. One on 10% and another one on 50% volume.
[17:34] <ThinkT510> cuddylier: reading man pages is always safe
[17:34] <espnu> This seems to reset everytime, i change device with X-Fi Titanium HD
[17:35] <espnu> on ubuntu 12.10
[17:35] <Dr_willis_> you could set up a script and use the alsactrl command perhaps?
[17:35] <cuddylier> Aw lovely, a manual
[17:35] <Dr_willis_> Printed text is so old skool.
[17:36] <cuddylier> Yeah
[17:36] <Justin_jtb7rmv> ubuntu 12.04
[17:36] <Chaos7Theory> A quick question, although it isn't specifically about Ubuntu. x-x'
[17:37] <Chaos7Theory> On my new flash drive, in GParted the partition's flag was 'lba', which supposedly means logical block addressing, but what would be the point in CHS vs. LBA?
[17:40] <bkc_> cuddylier: yes
[17:40] <OerHeks> Chaos7Theory, Standard CHS limited ATA hard drives to 504MB. That's how old CHS is ...
[17:41] <Chaos7Theory> Ah, okay
[17:43] <Anubis> what chat programs do you use for yahoo ?
[17:46] <Chaos7Theory> !ext4
[17:46] <escott> Chaos7Theory, there is no factoid for ext4 what is your question about it
[17:47] <Chaos7Theory> Just trying to figure what'd be the best format for my backup partition on my flash drive, since it seems when I use NTFS it has problems.
[17:48] <Chaos7Theory> I don't want to use FAT32 considering I'll have files bigger than 4 GB
[17:48] <escott> Chaos7Theory, has problems meaning?
[17:48] <Ryan`> Chaos7Theory try ZFS
[17:48] <Ryan`> it's extremely redudant
[17:48] <escott> Chaos7Theory, i would discourage relying on a flash drive for backup purposes
[17:48] <dcherniv> escott, ntfs-3g is sloooow write
[17:48] <TheLordOfTime> how do i export the complete pgp key, including private key, via command line?
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> i need to move my pgp key from one place to another
[17:49] <Chaos7Theory> As I transfer my files onto it, at some random point it gets corrupted somehow and not even GParted can access it, saying that I have to specifically go to Windows, and do a complicated series of steps ._.
[17:49] <escott> TheLordOfTime, pgp key made in with gpg
[17:49] <Chaos7Theory> I don't have the money for an external HDD right now.
[17:49] <escott> Chaos7Theory, sounds like bad hardware
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> escott, uh, what?
[17:49] <TheLordOfTime> escott, isnt that assumed?
[17:49] <Chaos7Theory> It shouldn't be, it's a PNY 32 GB one I just got.
[17:49] <Snane> nickserv identify 5h4n30043
[17:49] <roasted_> hello!
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> Snane, change your password now
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[17:50] <escott> TheLordOfTime, sometimes people say pgp key and mean a public key that might be for ssh purposes
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> it got blurted here :P
[17:50] <Ryan`> lll
[17:50] <lelouch> hello i just install windows 7 near my ubuntu then i boot live cd and re-install grub 2 but instead of dual bot ubuntu only boot
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> escott, i've been around a while, dude, that assumption's null/void here.
[17:50] <roasted_> Is there a "system monitor" for terminal for monitoring network traffic? I know TOP can handle everything else but I'm just not seeing anything to monitor network send/receive traffic.
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> (for my case)
[17:50] <TheLordOfTime> in any case i need to back up my private key (basically the complete PGP key).  how do i do that in the command line?
[17:51] <lelouch> hello i just install windows 7 near my ubuntu then i boot live cd and re-install grub 2 but instead of dual bot ubuntu only boot
[17:51] <yeats> roasted_: try tshark or nettop
[17:51] <escott> TheLordOfTime, options are --export and --export-secret-keys. you might also just backup your keys database in .gpg
[17:51] <Chaos7Theory> @ escott: Plus, even if it is bad hardware, I have no way of proving it is to the retailer, especially since I'm formatting it myself and they could easily fault me on it.
[17:51] <Ryan`> lelouch that's easy fix
[17:52] <escott> Chaos7Theory, sure you can. you dd some data onto it, you dd it off see if it fails a read
[17:52] <lelouch> Ryan`: so how to fix it ,
[17:52] <Chaos7Theory> Dd?
[17:52] <Ryan`> You merely add windows to your bootloader config
[17:52] <Ryan`> there's tools to do that
[17:52] <kasan> dd ???
[17:52] <Ryan`> I can help you in pm
[17:53] <escott> Chaos7Theory, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
[17:53] <lelouch> Ryan`: how can i add
[17:54] <Ryan`> well
[17:54] <dcherniv>  dd ??!
[17:54] <Ryan`> easy solution is to rm -rf /boot and reboot
[17:54] <Ryan`> It'll regenerate your grub configs
[17:54] <escott> !danger
[17:54] <Ryan`> windows should start working
[17:54] <TheLordOfTime> Ryan`, don't even SUGGEST that
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> dangerous commands like that are grounds for slappage.
[17:55] <Ryan`> What?
[17:55] <Ryan`> You seem rather inexperienced
[17:55] <Chaos7Theory> Ryan`: Why ZFS? It doesn't seem to be natively supported.
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> oh wrong nperson sorry
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> Ryan`, i misread your command
[17:55] <TheLordOfTime> sorry :)
[17:56] <mario-goulart> Hi.  Ubuntu 12.10 here.  How can I make lightdm or gdm just run my .xsession to start up my favorite window manager?
[17:56] <Ryan`> no problem
[17:56] <lelouch> Ryan`: what should i remove ? ....
[17:56] <Ryan`> lelouch /boot
[17:56] <Ryan`> That'll regenerate grub configs
[17:56] <Chaos7Theory> To b fair, that command wouldn't even work regardless, since he'd have to run it as root.
[17:56] <TheLordOfTime> escott, okay, so gpg's futzed apparently, i'll have to go fix it, although not sure that'll happen
[17:56] <Ryan`> Of course
[17:56] <lelouch> Ryan`: then ?
[17:56] <Ryan`> Reboot
[17:56] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do you setting up servers in tenminal?
[17:56] <dcherniv> lelouch, wtf dont rm -rf /boot
[17:56] <Ryan`> dcherniv ?
[17:56] <TheLordOfTime> escott, if i recursively copy ~/.gpg, will that get my PGP keys?
[17:56] <llutz> Ryan`:  if you remove /boot, you also remove the kernels. you don't seriously want that
[17:56] <SolarisBoy> rm -rf the kernel files?
[17:57] <Ryan`> That partition is regenerated on every boot
[17:57] <llutz> Ryan`: stop that nonsense
[17:57] <escott> lelouch, don't do anything Ryan` is telling you to do.
[17:57] <dcherniv> Ryan`, the hell it is
[17:57]  * TheLordOfTime yawns
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> actually on reread, it is dangerous, it'll nuke the kernel files
[17:57] <Chaos7Theory> Ryan`: Wouldn't it be simpler to just run the update-grub script?
[17:57] <Ryan`> IIt most definitely is
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> lelouch, run the update-grub script
[17:57] <Ryan`> Chaos7Theory that will not regenerate the configs
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> lelouch, you may need sudo.
[17:57] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do you setting up servers in tenminal?
[17:58] <leogitimate> why does ubuntu/debian get screwed up when one of my partitions get reformatted ?
[17:58] <lelouch> TheLordOfTime: ok go try update grub
[17:58] <llutz> leogitimate: do you try to mount that filesystem via /etc/fstab? if you"reformat" it, the UUID changes, you have to adjust fstab too
[17:59] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do you setting up servers in terninal?
[17:59] <lelouch> TheLordOfTime: ahha thanks  i think that should do the trick
[17:59] <Ryan`> Justin_jtb7rmv have you tried starting the server setup UI?
[17:59] <lelouch> TheLordOfTime: Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[17:59] <Justin_jtb7rmv> no
[18:00] <Ryan`> Justin_jtb7rmv hdparm --fwdownload /dev/urandom /dev/sd* should work
[18:00] <Chaos7Theory> Hm... Which package do I download to install exfat?
[18:00] <leogitimate> llutz: this latest error i have, i had an ntfs partition which i reformatted as ext4 , but after that, i couldn't boot.
[18:01] <anon_> Folks, I have the weirdest problem. I am using Kunbuntu 12.10. I changed the Kubuntu keyboard settings to my language and it works perfectly everywhere. I am using a Logitec wireless USB keyboard. In order to be able to log into Kubuntu I always have to connect my old PS/2 wired keyboard. I can unlock the screen with the wireless one but not log in. Why? it is so strange.
[18:01] <SolarisBoy> Ryan`: thats not nice
[18:01] <Ryan`> It is an extraordinarily useful command
[18:01] <llutz> !ops  | Ryan` giving dangerous advices
[18:01] <Ryan`> I have it set up as a cronjob on my boc
[18:02] <Ryan`> I am not
[18:02] <Ryan`> What a lie llutz
[18:02] <Ryan`> !ops | llutz is recruiting for the islamic jihad
[18:02] <IdleOne> Ryan`: that is the only warning I will give you
[18:02] <Ryan`> I see
[18:03]  * anti-non-free-OS watches 
[18:04] <Abhijit> hi. how can i know to which ip addresses and websites my computer is connected to right now ?
[18:04] <Abhijit> in lubuntu 12.10
[18:04] <SolarisBoy> Abhijit: netstat
[18:05] <anon_> Any idea anybody?
[18:05] <llutz> Abhijit: lsof -i
[18:05] <Varazir> Hmm I'm trying to get a script to start before lightdm starts ( turns on the AVR and TV) but I can't get it to work. I have edit lightdm.conf, added so my script starts before exec lightdm but then lightdm don't start
[18:05] <Abhijit> SolarisBoy, llutz thanks
[18:05] <Ryan`> Hello how can I set up jails on my ubuntu vpn?
[18:06] <SolarisBoy> Abhijit: sure
[18:06] <Chaos7Theory>  I'm guessing Ryan`'s last command was meant to wipe the entire primary storage device?
[18:06] <Ryan`> No
[18:06] <SolarisBoy> jails from bsd would be like chroots on ubuntu i guess
[18:06] <Ryan`> It flashed the HDDs onboard chip
[18:06] <delac> how do I click panel on classic to modify it?
[18:06] <SolarisBoy> yes in a dangerous manner
[18:06] <Ryan`> It's hilarious as it actually breaks your hardware
[18:06] <xbskid> Why doesn't apt-get know about wgetpaste?!
[18:07] <dcherniv> SolarisBoy, oh my... no. way better than chroot
[18:07] <bekks> xbskid: Use "pastebinit" instead.
[18:07] <SolarisBoy> dcherniv: well atleast you know ;>
[18:07] <Chaos7Theory> Flashing hardware is hilarious?
[18:07] <`Ryan> Jordan_U: you know
[18:07] <`Ryan> that hostname
[18:07] <`Ryan> is entirely serious
[18:08] <Chaos7Theory> Troll alert :X
[18:08] <llutz> better late than never...
[18:09] <Ry`an> I am highly offended by the censorship here
[18:10] <L3mce> Varazir: the correct answer would be to create an upstart... but using init.d is easier. I would undo whatever you have done to lightdm.conf and probably just use init.
[18:11] <Varazir> L3mce: ok
[18:11] <Soo> !ops | touch my butthole
[18:11] <Soo> !ops | touch my butthole
[18:11] <Soo> !ops | touch my butthole
[18:11] <FloodBot1> Soo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:11] <Soo> !ops | touch my butthole
[18:11] <Soo> elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U
[18:11] <Soo> elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U
[18:11] <FloodBot1> Soo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:12] <oparr> any news about ubuntu raring ringtail
[18:12] <dupa> someone have server dell poweredge r210 II? how enable idrac web interface? i can't found ;/
[18:12] <jrib> !raring | oparr
[18:12] <L3mce> Varazir: look at a few scripts in /etc/init.d    see how to determine what needs to be started first etc... then update-rc.d script-name defaults
[18:12] <Ry`an`> !ops | lick my asshole
[18:12] <Ry`an`> !ops | lick my asshole
[18:12] <FloodBot1> Ry`an`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:15] <Varazir> L3mce: ok, I thought ubuntus thing was the upstart system using .conf file placed in /etc/init/
[18:15] <LucidLuna> how come you guys keep making yourselves channel operators then removing that status?
[18:15] <LucidLuna> is it for a particular reason o.O
[18:15] <mario-goulart> Ok.  I've found the answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/77191/how-can-i-use-lightdm-for-user-defined-sessions
[18:15] <L3mce> !upstart
[18:17] <TheVoid> hi Wkter
[18:17] <Wkter> Hello, TheVoid
[18:18] <Varazir> L3mce: ya, I could create my own .conf file but I can't see how it will trigger before lightdm starts
[18:18] <pavlz> hi
[18:19] <pavlz> sorry for the disturb and for the OFF-TOPIC i got a news for you: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/11/23/2312205/anonymous-file-sharing-darknet-ruled-illegal-by-german-court
[18:19] <TheLordOfTime> !ot | pavlz
[18:19] <ThinkT510> pavlz: don't do it if you know its offtopic
[18:20] <LucidLuna> to be honest i think its fair
[18:20] <cuddylier> Am I able to see if my server is sending a lot of data to a certain IP? To explain my extremely high bandwidth?
[18:20] <ThinkT510> LucidLuna: no it isn't, its against channel policy
[18:20] <LucidLuna> oh sorry i was replying to pavlz
[18:21] <LucidLuna> i wasnt disputing the policies lol
[18:22] <__rob> hello
[18:22] <L3mce> Varazir: again... look at existing scripts in /etc/init.d it should be clear. just copy a header and dump your script in and change the names. Will start before lightdm.
[18:22] <__rob> does anyone know what I need to add to my share definiton for the samba4 config file in /var/lib/samba/usershares to get it to allow guest to write to the folder
[18:22] <Varazir> ok
[18:22] <L3mce> Varazir: make sure that the processes you need are already started first... eg networking etc
[18:22] <Varazir> L3mce: ahh
[18:23] <Varazir> L3mce: ok
[18:24] <L3mce> Varazir: again though... the RIGHT way to do it is to learn how to create an upstart job... I am telling you the easy way. It is not necessarily the best advice.
[18:25] <L3mce> nice shootin btw jrib.
[18:27] <xjkx> This jockey-text keeps bugging and bringing me the chance to report its error. Do I need it up, if not, can I just shut this up to stop loading on startup ? How ?
[18:29] <kracekumar_> if I use pip(installed by pypy), pip install fabric will shebang pypy path, so I can use pypy interpreter while invoking the command, is there a way I can make apt-get to do similar stuff, e.g apt-get install fabric should use pypy interpreter?
[18:33] <escott> kracekumar_, probably not a good idea
[18:34] <kracekumar_> escott, why, I am aware not all python modules run well with pypy, your thoughts ?
[18:34] <escott> xjkx, apt-get remove apport
[18:34] <xjkx> escott: wont this removal ruin me ? I think the jokey-text is to configure video
[18:34] <escott> kracekumar_, its your system. if you want to take that risk you can replace the /usr/bin/python executable with a symlink to pypy
[18:35] <escott> xjkx, apport is the error reporter
[18:35] <xjkx> Oh
[18:35] <xjkx> Genial, thanks
[18:36] <kracekumar_> escott, Yes, I can add pypy binary to $PATH and do pypy-pip install fabric will start using pypy interpreter
[18:40] <escott> kracekumar_, depends on exactly what the shebang is. most system scripts like apt will use the full path in the shebang because they dont want you breaking your system by modifying $PATH
[18:41] <kracekumar_> escott, yes, I said $PATH from pip point of view
[18:44] <tbrock> hey guys i really messed up my 12.10 box and it is starting in low graphics mode
[18:44] <tbrock> is there any way to recover from this
[18:46] <Varazir> L3mce: I see, ya I'm going to read up on upstart job
[18:48] <L3mce> tbrock: what did you do? and what is the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[18:48] <tbrock> i was messing with gnome and unity
[18:48] <tbrock> i think i need to re-install
[18:49] <tbrock> i think i uninstalled nautilus
[18:49] <tbrock> L3mce I can't type that, when i click go to console
[18:49] <tbrock> it just hangs essentially
[18:49] <gustav__> tbrock: http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/content/pictures/family/HomerStranglesBart1.gif
[18:50] <tbrock> yeah, ugh
[18:50] <bazhang> gustav__, dont do that
[18:50] <bazhang> !behelpful | gustav__
[18:50] <L3mce> tbrock: ctrl alt f2
[18:50] <tbrock> does nothing
[18:50] <tbrock> tried that
[18:50] <tbrock> lemme try rebooting and doing it again
[18:51] <tbrock> ah, that works if i don't click anything
[18:51] <L3mce> Ok... we are definitely gonna need a terminal. Worst case scenario we can boot to live disk and chroot... but that is worst case.
[18:52] <tbrock> L3mce ok so this is working
[18:52] <tbrock> ive got a console now
[18:53] <L3mce> tbrock: I expect nautilus took with it something important. Anyway, what is the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[18:53] <tbrock> ATI turks
[18:53] <tbrock> its a radeon hd 6670
[18:54] <L3mce> apt-cache policy fglrx | grep stall
[18:54] <tbrock> ok, it says installed
[18:55] <L3mce> i would reinstall nautilus.
[18:55] <L3mce> sudo apt-get install nautilus
[18:55] <tbrock> ok: sudo apt-get install nautilus --reinstall
[18:55] <tbrock> ?
[18:55] <L3mce> if it is uninstalled, then no need to --reinstall
[18:55] <tbrock> it says failed to load session ubuntu when i startx
[18:56] <tbrock> perhaps that is what is going on
[18:56] <L3mce> lets undo what you did, and see if that does not bring back what you are missing.
[18:58] <tbrock> L3mce ok
[18:58] <tbrock> what should i do next
[18:58] <tbrock> thank you so much for helping
[18:58] <L3mce> tbrock: I would reboot... see if x doesn't start.
[18:59] <tbrock> ok
[18:59] <tbrock> doesn't work, says low graphics mode
[19:00] <Baeein> got a couple of problems with ubuntu 12.10, please help me out: 1. unity is gone, after i installed fgrlx-updates for my AMD HD6850 card and 2. GRUB 2 didnt get properly installed, fixed it with livecd and boot repair. But now i have to select to boot from Ubunut, instead of it auto-booting for me.
[19:00] <L3mce> tbrock: ok. please sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:01] <L3mce> Baeein: you mean unity 3d is gone? Or... you simply have no login menu... or...
[19:01] <tbrock> done
[19:01] <L3mce> tbrock: sudo pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:01] <Baeein> unity 3d is not appearing at startup
[19:01] <Baeein> im met with a blank wallpaper
[19:02] <tbrock> says unable to read from /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:02] <tbrock> hrm
[19:02] <tbrock> it doesn't seem like i've got one
[19:03] <Baeein> on 2nd point, how do i make it auto-boot, without having to choose between memory tests and ubuntu? i just want into ubuntu.
[19:03] <L3mce> tbrock: aticonfig --initial
[19:04] <tbrock> ok done
[19:05] <escott> Baeein, did you modify your /etc/default/grub in any way
[19:06] <L3mce> tbrock: I believe that should have put that in /etc/X11. See if xorg.conf is there
[19:06] <tbrock> yep
[19:06] <tbrock> it is
[19:06] <tbrock> x starts fine
[19:06] <L3mce> service lightdm restart
[19:06] <tbrock> its ubuntu-desktop
[19:06] <L3mce> or reload
[19:07] <L3mce> I cant remember
[19:07] <tbrock> ok lets se
[19:07] <tbrock> lets see
[19:07] <tbrock> screen goes black
[19:07] <tbrock> went all crazy, going to try and reboot
[19:07] <L3mce> k
[19:08] <L3mce> when you get a terminal back, I would like to see sudo pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:08] <L3mce> it will spit out a url.
[19:08] <L3mce> I just need the 8 digit extention.
[19:08] <L3mce> s/digit/character/
[19:08] <tbrock> 1386023
[19:09] <tbrock> its setup correctly
[19:09] <tbrock> it seems
[19:10] <Baeein> L3mce, this http://askubuntu.com/questions/202857/cant-install-ati-proprietary-drivers-in-12-10
[19:10] <Baeein> i installed fgrlx-updates, not sure if that is the latest ati driver.
[19:10] <tbrock> fixed!
[19:11] <tbrock> L3mce i needed to remove a package so i could re-install ubuntu-desktop package
[19:11] <Baeein> ah wrong link.. sorry
[19:11] <L3mce> !yay | tbrock
[19:12] <ThinkT510> !cookie | L3mce
[19:12] <L3mce> Baeein: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8828047&postcount=15  you can look at this solution for #2.
[19:12] <KI4RO> Have a red triangle on my panel.  When I click on it I see a message that says my update information is outdated and that I should click show updates and look for any missing repositories.  When I do that it says my software is up to date.  Any suggestions?
[19:13] <DeltaHeavy> I am CONSTANTLY getting "System program problem detected. Do you want to report the problem now?". How can I stop this?
[19:14] <ThinkT510> KI4RO: try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:14] <skorv> hey
[19:14] <KI4RO> ThinkT510: Will do....thanks!
[19:15] <skorv> how do i permanently change wifi to accept all european channels (12 & 13) ?
[19:16] <L3mce> DeltaHeavy: Do you want to fix what is crashing, or do you want to stop being bothered by it?
[19:17] <cuddylier> What does 'tcp6       0 341504 198.15.69.170:25568     198.15.69.170:49632     ESTABLISHED' mean in netstat -nt ? What does the '341504' figure mean?
[19:17] <escott> skorv, you can add the command to /etc/rc.local
[19:17] <szymon_g> hi
[19:18] <szymon_g> anyone uses BGT3630 dvb tuner on ubuntu 12.10?
[19:18] <skorv> escott: if i knew the command...
[19:19] <escott> skorv, either you load a european firmware or perhaps you can do something with rfkill
[19:20] <skorv> escott: its a bmc4313 on a eeepc
[19:21] <OerHeks> cuddylier, " lsof -i:<portnumber> -n  " shows the programm using that port
[19:21] <cuddylier> Okay
[19:21] <cuddylier> But OerHeks What about the external IP?
[19:22] <OerHeks> cuddylier, oh i presumed it was your ip
[19:22] <cuddylier> OerHeks Nope
[19:23] <ubuntu> hi there i'm trying to install ubuntu beside windows 7 and I cant seem to reduce the partition in gparted for the windows 7 it keeps saying I need to run fsck in windows I have done this and it still wont let me rsize it anyone have any ideas?
[19:25] <escott> Guest60898, you might try resizing within windows
[19:25] <DJones> Guest60898: I've  very rarely resized a partition, but when I do, I use Windows to resize an ntfs partition
[19:25] <Guest60898> My windows is absolutely up the creek
[19:26] <Guest60898> which Is why I was hoping to use gparted
[19:26] <ThinkT510> Guest60898: why keep it if its broken?
[19:27] <Guest60898> becuase its got a perfect wubi installation inside it
[19:27] <Guest60898> with all my docs
[19:27] <TJ-> Guest60898: Where are you getting the gparted version you're using from? The 12.04 or 12.10 live CDs?
[19:27] <Guest60898> and I dont fully trust backup
[19:27] <Guest60898> yeah 12.04 live cd
[19:27] <ThinkT510> Guest60898: mount it and recover your docs
[19:28] <Guest60898> I can retrieve all my docs from windows 7
[19:28] <Guest60898> I mean from wubi or live cd
[19:28] <Guest60898> and then what?
[19:28] <Guest60898> ditch windows7?
[19:28] <ThinkT510> Guest60898: if thats what you want to do
[19:28] <Guest608> hello
[19:29] <Guest60898> I just want to keep win7 incase I ever need a window prog
[19:29] <Guest60898> I dont know how I would get it back
[19:29] <Guest608> im having trouble installing java on my ubuntu os
[19:29] <TJ-> Guest60898: Do you have access to the Windows recovery console via the Windows installation disks?
[19:29] <ThinkT510> Guest60898: can you change your nick please
[19:29] <escott> Guest60898, i believe as long as you have the serial number you could reinstall from an oem disk
[19:29] <Guest60898> I dont have the disk?
[19:30] <Guest60898> I have a recovery console I think?
[19:30] <Guest608> IM HAVING TROUBLE WITH INSTALLING JAVA ON UBUNTU!
[19:30] <Resnik> anyone who can help me with xrdp on 12.10 ... When I connect I only see background image, and echo "gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d" > ~/.xsession did not help either.
[19:30] <Guest60898> I dont know how to change my nick
[19:30] <ThinkT510> !java | Guest608
[19:30] <TJ-> Guest60898: You can download the recovery for Win 7 from http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/windows-7-system-repair-discs/ according to http://gparted.sourceforge.net/faq.php#faq-15
[19:30] <Guest60898> thank you
[19:30] <ThinkT510> Guest60898: /nick whateveryoulike
[19:30] <Guest60898> oh cheers
[19:31] <StryKaizer> I'm looking for a fake mailserver with web interface, for use in a dev environment (emails going out should be logged instead of mailed, and visible trough a webinterface).  Anyone who knows an existing sollution?
[19:31] <Guest60898> so you dont think I would be able to reduce the win7 installation through gparted?
[19:32] <TJ-> Guest60898:   According to #14 and #15 in in the gparted article I linked you to, that should get you to a point where gparted will be able to resize the NTFS partition
[19:32] <Guest60898> right
[19:32] <TJ-> Guest60898: I'd suggest reading that gparted FAQ in depth first, then working through the recommendations
[19:32] <Guest60898> bloody hell
[19:33] <Guest60898> thanks
[19:33] <Guest60898> so complex
[19:33] <crundar> I can't ping my 12.04 machine from any machine besides itself. I can ping that machine from itself using its IP
[19:33] <vivid> crundar, firewall?
[19:33] <crundar> huh, but I can't ping out.
[19:33] <crundar> vivid: maybe. maybe flush IPTables
[19:33] <Guest60898> whats option 2 nuke win7 and start again?
[19:35] <escott> crundar, firewalls won't normally block icmp
[19:35] <Church> depends on what you define 'normally'
[19:35] <escott> crundar, you probably dont have the correct ip address. your router probably thinks it should be something else and your computer is sending to nowhere
[19:35] <crundar> escott: well, I'll flush it anyway and see. If it doesn't work, then, well I'll have to try something else
[19:35] <crundar> escott: its virtual machine, running in kvm
[19:36] <crundar> escott: but I jst cloned what should be a working machine,
[19:36] <escott> crundar, NAT or bridged?
[19:37] <crundar> escott: *shame* I ... don't know how to tell, or really what those things mean.
[19:37] <escott> crundar, if you cloned another image did you change the ip address and mac address
[19:38] <crundar> escott: no. I kind of thought it would do that for you.
[19:39] <crundar> escott: bridged
[19:39] <escott> crundar, "kvm" is a rather broad description. there is kvm with some raw XML files and then there are all these utilities build on top of it
[19:39] <crundar> escott: virt-manager, comes pre-packaged with RH6, iirc
[19:40] <escott> crundar, i would start by looking at ifconfig and verify nothing else on your network has that mac/ip
[19:42] <crundar> escott: I pulled up the one I cloned, and it has a different ip. The thing is, this one has an IP that ... looks weird. It doesn't look like it came from the same block that the other ones are.
[19:46] <baenu> L3mce, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer-updates/+bug/1069199
[19:46] <baenu> i found the unity problem, but mind explaining me workaround #2
[19:50] <baenu> anyone else? should i wait for a fix, or can someone explain me how to fix this?
[19:50] <baenu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer-updates/+bug/1069199
[19:51] <baenu> (making ATI driver work, i haven't installed it yet coz i know of Unity bug)
[19:53] <sam_nazarko> cannot install ubuntu at all.
[19:53] <baenu> how come?
[19:53] <sam_nazarko> kernel will not install, so checked and I got this. For root /dev/dm-o is misssing /sys/block entry
[19:53] <sam_nazarko> but dm-0 is visible with ls /dev | grep dm-0 and same in /sys/block
[19:53] <sam_nazarko> Suggestions?
[19:54] <Justin_jtb7rmv> Ryan` ./hdparm --fwdownload /dev/urandon /dev/sd*
[19:54] <sam_nazarko> I have searched. Trying to install kernel. /boot is an ext4 partition on mdadm, / is on lvm ext4
[19:54] <jrib> Justin_jtb7rmv: what are you doing?
[19:55] <jrib> Justin_jtb7rmv: please don't repeat that command here
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> Justin_jtb7rmv: what is the point?
[19:57] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do you setting up servers in terninal?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Justin_jtb7rmv: why post that command in the channel?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Justin_jtb7rmv: then to further take the piss, you ask for support. What sort of mentality do you have
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> ?
[19:58] <a111> http://i.imgur.com/EwAJQ.jpg
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> thanks IdleOne
[19:59] <sam_nazarko> My exact failure is at mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-33-generic.new 3.2.0-33-generic
[19:59] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do you setting up servers at terninal in ubuntu?
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> Justin_jtb7rmv: if you answer me, I can advise. My questions are not rhetorical....
[20:00] <NikTh> Hey ActionParsnip  (andrew)  , IdleOne  -:)
[20:00] <DrManhattan> Hooray! Hooray for linux!
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> NikTh: howdy
[20:02] <NikTh> ActionParsnip, I'm struggling to restrict skype.. do you know anything about ? apparmor ?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> NikTh: not something I ever played with. I know it is there but I've never messed with it
[20:04] <sam_nazarko> this is definitely a ubuntu bug
[20:04] <NikTh> ActionParsnip, most easiest way is VB , isn't ? VB can work like sandbox.. right ?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> NikTh: no idea, sorry
[20:05] <NikTh> ActionParsnip, no problema :-)
[20:05] <parmax> ciao
[20:05] <parmax> !list
[20:06] <sambagirl> how do you extract a .tar.bz2
[20:06] <sam_nazarko> sambagirl: tar -xjf
[20:06] <sambagirl> thanks sam
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: install unp, then run:   unp filename
[20:06] <NikTh> sambagirl, right click and "extract here"
[20:06] <Farside_ftw> OK friends, I have finally installed the OS onto the USB... Now I have a question about getting my specific wireless driver installed.
[20:06] <sambagirl> thanks actionjackson :D
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: if you install unp you NEVER have to ask, it's the same command for ALL archives
[20:07] <Farside_ftw> I believe I downloaded the right realtek drivers: rtl8723e
[20:07] <Farside_ftw> I go through their readme, but the wireless card still is not showing up in ifconfig
[20:07] <Farside_ftw> I can get it through lspci
[20:07] <Farside_ftw> And I installed the drivers the way that it wanted me to... still to no avail.
[20:07] <Farside_ftw> Any tips, hints?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Farside_ftw: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network      what wifi chip are you using?
[20:09] <dr-willis> Farside_ftw:  you did modprobe the module?
[20:10] <Farside_ftw> dr-willis: no
[20:10] <dr-willis> it might not be loaded then. ;-)
[20:11] <Gnea> Why has it become so difficult to burn DBAN to a USB flash drive correctly using Ubuntu?
[20:11] <sambagirl> here is a good question for someone who is ignorant. how would you go about compiling this? http://apache.spinellicreations.com/incubator/cloudstack/releases/4.0.0-incubating/apache-cloudstack-4.0.0-incubating-src.tar.bz2
[20:11] <Farside_ftw> ActionParsnip: There are two cards that show up... AR8161 Gigabit Eth, Realtek Semiconductor blah blah blah
[20:11] <sambagirl> or wouldnt you compile it?
[20:11] <dr-willis> using what tool to burn gnea?
[20:12] <Farside_ftw> dr-willis: I haven't run the modprobe module before. Would you mind explaining when and where?
[20:12] <Gnea> sambagirl: I wouldn't, I'd look for an Ubuntu package first
[20:12] <Gnea> sambagirl: here: http://incubator.apache.org/cloudstack/downloads.html
[20:12] <dr-willis> Farside_ftw:  it loads the module/driver..   sudo modprobe modulename
[20:12] <Farside_ftw> dr-willis: Let's give this a try :D
[20:13] <dr-willis> im suprised the directions dident mention it.
[20:13] <Farside_ftw> dr-willis: would lspci give me the right module name?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: try xfburn. If you get web access in the Ubuntu live desktop, why not just use that and install dban?
[20:13] <Gnea> sambagirl: looks like it's all there for 64-bit... wonder where 32-bit went... http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/ubuntu/dists/precise/4.0/pool/
[20:13] <Farside_ftw> dr-willis: I was too... I saw that module before mentioned on the web... but it wasn't in the readme. However, the file "crap" was loaded with the .tar.gz, so they thought of that at least.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> dr-willis: me too
[20:15] <Farside_ftw> dr-willis: How do I find the correct module name? (God I'm noob sometimes :()
[20:15] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: \_>.<_/  I'm in a seriously frustrating situation right now: I used a method of fixing syslinux.cfg as outlined here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11804095&postcount=8  It booted up, didn't give me a menu, didn't ask me what I wanted to do, it went ahead and started a dod wipe of the hdd. I yanked the flashdrive and powered it off before it got too far... far enough to zap the MBR and part of the first partition... quite likely the re
[20:16] <sambagirl> gnea i've looked all over the place and i don't want to infuriate anyone in that channel with a question. i believe i looked at that location but let me look again i installed rackspace openstack and it is neat but i wanted to see this one too
[20:16] <Seption> Alguem ai pode me ajudar?
[20:16] <phunyguy_t430s> This is driving me crazy.  I am trying to use MusicBrainz Picard to save some audio files with proper tags to a CIFS share, and gvfsd keeps puking.  Can't fix it without a restart.
[20:17] <phunyguy_t430s> Everything stays connected, but it just goes to lunch on me.
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_try mounting using mount, rather than gvfs then....
[20:17] <IdleOne> !br | Seption
[20:17] <phunyguy_t430s> ActionParsnip, I would rather not.
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_might be needed
[20:17] <Gnea> sambagirl: so you tried installing the .deb packages from there and decided that compiling it would yield the result you're looking for?
[20:17] <phunyguy_t430s> I would rather gvfs work as intended
[20:17] <TJ-> Farside_ftw: "sudo modprobe rtl8723e"  ... that assumes it isn't already loaded, which you can find out using "lsmod | grep rtl8723"
[20:18] <Justin_jtb7rmv> i'm sorry
[20:19] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do you setting up servers at terninal in ubuntu?
[20:19] <TJ-> Farside_ftw: It's also possible you'll need to copy the firmware binary into the correct location, if the install operation didn't already do that
[20:19] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: as far as testdisk goes, I'm using that now to recover the MBR... the 'Recovery' partition was the first partition.  The information given on ubuntuforums was supposed to be safe and accurate.  It was not.
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: I'd just reinstall then use backups
[20:19] <Seption> http://pastebin.com/hgGM0UbM
[20:19] <Seption> Help-me
[20:19] <brontosaurusrex> Justin_jtb7rmv: what servers?
[20:19] <Farside_ftw> TJ-:  Yeah, it's still not finding it...
[20:20] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: That *was* the backup. I'll need to order recovery DVDs now.
[20:20] <Farside_ftw> TJ- "FATAL: Module rtl8723e not found"
[20:20] <TJ-> Farside_ftw: "not finding it" means you've not gone through the install step
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: then you have the originals if thats only the backup
[20:20] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: may I pm?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: sure
[20:20] <TJ-> Farside_ftw: All custom-built modules need to be installed to a system directory for the version of the kernel in use
[20:20] <Justin_jtb7rmv> shell server and irc server
[20:21] <Farside_ftw> TJ-: Absolutely and I went through the steps provided for that.
[20:21] <TJ-> Farside_ftw: Did you use the instructions given in answer to this question?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/139632/wireless-card-realtek-rtl8723ae-bt-is-not-recognized
[20:21] <Farside_ftw> TJ-: I guess that it didn't like it.
[20:21] <Farside_ftw> TJ-: Give me a sec to make sure that I went through them step-by-step
[20:22] <TJ-> Farside_ftw: sometimes you have to read the command responses carefully; they may indicate one step has failed, which means subsequent steps will also fail
[20:22] <Farside_ftw> TJ-: OK, I did the sudomake install, but it's looking for an output file.
[20:22] <Farside_ftw> TJ-: What do I do with that?
[20:22] <OerHeks> Seption, PPA's are not supported, but if the ppa does not load, try other mirror.
[20:23] <k1l> Justasic: shell server means login into ssh account. so set up ssh and make the users. and an irc server is easy: install a irc daemon. _but_ that is a real mess to manage, if you dont want it to be a warez exchange base
[20:23] <Seption> Someone help me upgrade my kernel?
[20:23] <Seption> http://pastebin.com/hgGM0UbM
[20:24] <phunyguy_t430s> ActionParsnip, what i am trying to accomplish is a functional dynamic laptop that I can cart around with me, that stays VPNd to home as long as I have an internet connection.  With gvfs/gigolo/openvpn/etc I would imagine I could make this happen, however even locally connected to the network, any slowdown seems to confuse the heck out of gvfs.
[20:24] <phunyguy_t430s> ....and it pukes.
[20:24] <Justin_jtb7rmv> i need helping please with setting up shell server and irc server
[20:24] <phunyguy_t430s> I also can't kill the process no matter WHAT I do.  So a restart is required
[20:24] <phunyguy_t430s> kill -9 doesnt work.
[20:25] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, zombie process?
[20:25] <phunyguy_t430s> escott, no.
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: you can add the mount to /etc/fstab
[20:26] <phunyguy_t430s> ActionParsnip, I used to do that, but it isn't ideal at all.
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> Justin_jtb7rmv:  you having a specific problem?
[20:26] <phunyguy_t430s> especially if the share isn't accessible, it confuses the system.
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: well, it can work or not. Your call
[20:26] <phunyguy_t430s> takes a few minutes for it to time out, then I can unmount.
[20:27] <phunyguy_t430s> ActionParsnip, it works great otherwise but when doing too much it keels over.
[20:27] <Justin_jtb7rmv> i need helping please with setting up shell server and irc server in ubunt
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: if you use fstab then gvfs isn't a factor
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> Justin_jtb7rmv:  you having a specific problem with one or the other? install ssh server, and an irc server.. confgure them as needed...
[20:27] <phunyguy_t430s> ActionParsnip, that defeats the purpose of what I am trying to do.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: trasfer data to a remote system...isn't that the goal?
[20:28] <k1l_> Justin_jtb7rmv: shell server means login into ssh account. so set up ssh and make the users. and an irc server is easy: install a irc daemon. _but_ that is a real mess to manage, if you dont want it to be a warez exchange base
[20:28] <phunyguy_t430s> If the answer is "it doesnt work, use something else", then why include it in Ubuntu?
[20:28] <xpistos> Hi all. Does anyone know how to install a .exe file in playonlinux?
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Justin_jtb7rmv: why do you not answer my question?
[20:28] <xpistos> I don't see the option to add an app that isn't in its lists
[20:29] <phunyguy_t430s> ActionParsnip, that is part of the goal.  I am trying to come up with a solution for it to be dynamic and be able to adapt to changes in the environment.
[20:29] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do you setting up shall server at terninal in ubuntu?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> xpistos: run playonlinux and click the instll button, use the wizard
[20:29] <Farside_ftw> When doing 'make' in the rtl'--' folder, I am receiving "error1" and "error2"... at the end it says 'make: *** [all] Error 2"
[20:29] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | Justin_jtb7rmv
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Justin_jtb7rmv: forget it.I've moved on
[20:29] <k1l_> xpistos: better asl the plaonlinux support for that question
[20:29] <Dr_Willis> Justin_jtb7rmv:  i suggest reading some docs on ssh and its ussage.
[20:29] <escott> !details | Farside_ftw
[20:29] <willwh> hi guys - anyone in the steam beta (I am - looking to compare some notes, 12.10 + nvidia 310.14 (experimental-310)) and a gtx 460 SE
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> willwh:  i think theres #ubuntu-steam channel
[20:30] <willwh> oh nice!
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> willwh: I'd ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:30] <willwh> Dr_Willis: I owe you a beer (y)
[20:31] <phunyguy_t430s> ActionParsnip, do you understand what I am trying to do?
[20:31] <phunyguy_t430s> the idea isnt just a one time transfer.
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> i dident even get into the steam beta ;)
[20:31] <xpistos> ActionParsnip: Thanks. I didn't see the option on the bottom left. Odd place for that.
[20:31] <Farside_ftw> I am installing rtl (realtek wireless) drivers for Ubuntu 12.10. When in the root folder, I am told to type, 'make'. While 'make' is working, I receive the end error: make *** [all] Error2
[20:31] <escott> Farside_ftw, if thats all you want to tell us then i guess we would suggest you fix Error2
[20:31] <Farside_ftw> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139632/wireless-card-realtek-rtl8723ae-bt-is-not-recognized
[20:31] <Farside_ftw> That's the reference
[20:32] <Farside_ftw> I'm at step 4 on the Answer
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: you have an issue with gvfs so I am giving a solution which takes it out of the equation.
[20:33] <phunyguy_t430s> ActionParsnip, I dont want to take gvfs out of the equation.,
[20:33] <phunyguy_t430s> I want gvfs to WORK.
[20:33] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, then open up emacs and start working on it
[20:33] <phunyguy_t430s> gvfs has what I need.
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: yes but if there is no known fix, what are you going to do
[20:34] <phunyguy_t430s> I'm trying to help, I need to get to a point where I can file a bug.
[20:34] <phunyguy_t430s> It is a bug, I know that.
[20:34] <phunyguy_t430s> currently gvfsd-fuse is hung, x2 processes.
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: then check the gvfs bugs, see if it's been reported already
[20:34] <phunyguy_t430s> and I can't kill them.
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: if you kill the parent, they will die
[20:35] <phunyguy_t430s> what parent.,
[20:35] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, then you need to find a minimal set of steps to reproduce it. perhaps strace look at some gvfs logs, maybe run an strace etc
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: the parent process of the hung process
[20:35] <phunyguy_t430s> ActionParsnip, in previous chats, it was established that the parent isn't able to be killed without restarting
[20:36] <phunyguy_t430s> cant remember the exact reason.
[20:36] <phunyguy_t430s> but it was along the lines of the main system process or something
[20:36] <escott> phunyguy_t430s, its stuck in some syscall
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: ps -ef | grep process        look at the 2nd value, that is the parent process
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> killing parents and children.. Linux is so violent.
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: only if they deserve it :)
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: or turn into zombies
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> but you cant kill zombies.. linux reflects real life...
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: you can kill the zombies parent and it will drop.....BOOM HEADSHOT
[20:38] <phunyguy_t430s> yeah it is stuck on a system call.
[20:39] <phunyguy_t430s> Well it only seems to happen in Picard, so I may go that direction.
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> hmm. odd error...
[20:39] <phunyguy_t430s> worst-case scenario I can load up picard on the server with x forwarding
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> server is havin some issues?
[20:40] <cfeagans> how difficult is it to install Ubuntu so all the boot stuff is on an SD drive but the home directory is on another drive? Are there some options to choose at the initial install to do this?
[20:40] <gaby_> Hello - any body knows how to increase the size of the C:/  under WINE ?
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> cfeagans:  rather trivial really
[20:40] <phunyguy_t430s> lol C:/
[20:40] <DrManhattan> cfeagans, you can do that very, very easily during the initial install if you want
[20:41] <cfeagans> I was hoping so
[20:41] <Dr_Willis> cfeagans:  just use the custome partioning layout fesature of the installer. put / on the sdd and /home on the hd.
[20:41] <phunyguy_t430s> gaby_, not sure what you mean, it is just a folder in your linux filesystem.
[20:41] <Dr_Willis> cfeagans:  but i got a 128gb ssd and all of my linu install fits on it. :) includeing home. I use the other HD as a /media/data partion for extra storeage
[20:41] <cfeagans> ah... I thought I remembered seeing that once. changing it *after* the install seems a bit complicated though
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> cfeagans:  not really. mount the hd to /home/ and move the files to it
[20:42] <gaby_> phunyguy_t430s : when i try to install new application - its telling me that there is not enough memory
[20:42] <escott> cfeagans, what do you mean boot stuff and SD drive you do mean SSD?
[20:42] <cfeagans> yes.. ssd
[20:42] <DrManhattan> cfeagans, only if you're trying to use that uuid in the fstab. I've never been able to make that work, as I'm far too lazy to deal with it, but Im pretty sure you can just mount it the regular old school way
[20:42] <phunyguy_t430s> gaby_, that's not the same type of memory.
[20:43] <cfeagans> k... thanks
[20:43] <gaby_> phunyguy_t430s:  what is the problem and how can i solve it
[20:43] <escott> cfeagans, you can put /boot on the SSD but that won't do much to make your boot faster. / needs to be on the SSD to have a fast boot. you could have /home on a different disk
[20:43] <phunyguy_t430s> gaby_, I wish I knew, but you can try searching the wine database (cant remember the site) to see if others had any luck with it.
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> gaby_: can you give a pastebin of:   df -h; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image       thanks
[20:43] <crundar> I'm being told to look for /etc/inittab/ . Not found on my system. Is this a part of a common directory structure on another OS, and what's the corresponding location in Ubuntu (12.04)?
[20:44] <phunyguy_t430s> >< brb gotta restart
[20:44] <cfeagans> I have everything on the SSD now, and a reboot is very quick... so if I move the home folder that would increase the boot time?
[20:44] <escott> cfeagans, slightly
[20:44] <WXZ> can I split a screen into 2, sort of like dual monitors, but on one monitor?
[20:44] <cfeagans> hmm.. thanks for that. I'll need to rethink the pros & cons now :)
[20:44] <escott> cfeagans, it would increase login time (because that needs to read your preferences in $HOME)
[20:45] <gaby_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/FbBcKdLz
[20:45] <ThinkT510> WXZ: for what?
[20:45] <crundar> ah, I think its /etc/init. Or, seems to be
[20:45] <escott> cfeagans, you could put individual folders like ~/Pictures or ~/Music on the slow disks
[20:45] <WXZ> ThinkT510: lucid lynx
[20:46] <iheb> join/ #hackerspace.tn
[20:46] <cfeagans> yeah, I pretty much do that now
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> gaby_: looks fine, You can run:  sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.2.0-29-generic-pae            to clean up but you have acres of space
[20:46] <ThinkT510> WXZ: sorry, i meant why
[20:47] <gaby_> ActionParsnip: if i will run sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.2.0-29-generic-pae
[20:47] <WXZ> ThinkT510: because I want to view two different workspaces simultaneously
[20:47] <gaby_> ActionParsnip: what it will clean?
[20:47] <escott> WXZ, thats a window manager feature called window snapping or tiling. not sure where it would be in lucid
[20:47] <WXZ> escott: would it tile the panels too?
[20:48] <janisozaur> how do i prevent a specific program from connecting to internet?
[20:48] <escott> WXZ, no i've never heard or what you are describing
[20:48] <escott> janisozaur, not really possible
[20:48] <escott> janisozaur, you can block outbound ports with iptables
[20:49] <WXZ> escott: ok, well in a dual monitor setup, can you have 1 workspace on one monitor and another on the other?
[20:49] <WXZ> or is it like just a really long monitor?
[20:49] <janisozaur> escott, how about iptables + pid?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> gaby_: you have 2 kernels installed, it will remove the one you don't need (assuming the one you have is ok)
[20:50] <escott> janisozaur, the pid is not fixed
[20:50] <janisozaur> escott, ppid? that would be enough granularity for me
[20:51] <janisozaur> escott, i mean ppid for *all* its children, even ppid-another pid-another child
[20:51] <escott> WXZ, "workspaces" are window manager concept, so sure the "workspaces" could be put on different physical screens but i've never heard of a WM that does that
[20:51] <escott> janisozaur, and what if the child disowned the parent? what then
[20:52] <WXZ> well that sucks
[20:52] <escott> janisozaur, sounds like you want containers or the like
[20:52] <janisozaur> escott, whoa, how do you do that?
[20:52] <WXZ> I don't think I'd be comfortable switching from X anyway
[20:53] <storrgie> I'm having some update issues: https://gist.github.com/295f139da093740f0ddd would anyone mind trying to give me a hand?
[20:53] <TLoT> !crosspost | storrgie
[20:53] <phunyguy_t430s> hmmm X forwarding of picard from the server isn't much faster, but at least it works.
[20:54] <escott> WXZ, generally "workspaces" are intended for virtual workspaces only, and you usually have a virtual workspace that mirrors the physical layout
[20:55] <WXZ> escott: physical layout of what?
[20:55] <escott> WXZ, of your screens. if you have 4 physical displays and 4 virtual workspaces you would usually see 16 virtual screens on which to put your applications.
[20:56] <ThinkT510> WXZ: the closest i think you'll get to what you want is the expose-like function in compiz
[20:56] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do you setting up own linode server at terninal in ubuntu?
[20:57] <WXZ> ThinkT510, escott: I'm reading on different WMs right now. I'll be back, but xnomad seems promising.
[20:57] <escott> WXZ, monad is a tiling window manager
[20:57] <escott> janisozaur, you might look at http://wiki.openvz.org/Setting_up_an_iptables_firewall its not ubuntu specific though
[20:57] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do you setting up own linode server at terninal in ubuntu?
[20:58] <escott> WXZ, you have tiling which is a WM feature to fit multiple windows to a grid pattern inside a single physical display
[20:58] <TLoT> doesn't linode have to set it up for you...?
[20:58] <TLoT> oops wrong window
[20:58] <TLoT> sorry
[20:58] <crundar> what are the various /etc/rcX.d/ directories?
[20:58] <ThinkT510> WXZ: even a tiling wm won't let you tile workspaces for a side by side comparison
[20:59] <WXZ> ThinkT510: well I hope you're wrong
[20:59] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do you setting up own linode server at terninal in ubuntu?
[20:59] <escott> WXZ, and workspaces which duplicates the physical displays "behind" one another think of it like a big sliding chalkboard
[21:00] <escott> WXZ, trying to put those two functions into the same feature would probably be considered ridiculously confusing by most people and i've never heard of anyone implementing anything like it
[21:00] <ThinkT510> WXZ: i honestly think that expose will be the closest you'll get to tiling workspaces
[21:00] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do you setting up own linode server in ubuntu?
[21:02] <juliohm> Good night, do you know how to solve that problem of mp3 players being mounted as read-only?
[21:02] <jrib> Justin_jtb7rmv: just buy a linode server and pick ubuntu as the OS. The folks in #linode on the oftc network can help you more
[21:02] <TLoT> Justin_jtb7rmv, instead of repeating yourself, go to their site and learn about linode.  http://www.linode.com/  (linode isnt a type of server you run on your own, you usually have to pay for Linode to run the VM)
[21:03] <WXZ> escott: well the way I use workspaces is I use each one for a specific "task", sometimes I reach impasses where I have to wait for a response (like an answer from irc, or an application to load). I want to be able to watch the progress on one workspace but quickly switch my focus to another
[21:03] <WXZ> escott: that takes a lot of clicks, and it's quite annoying.
[21:03] <swordsmanz> roughly how much disk space would it take up to install all of ubuntu ?
[21:04] <escott> WXZ, if you had two displays then i would put one application one each display, if its one display then you have to resize with a tiling feature
[21:04] <xwalk_> How do you access the grub menu in Ubuntu? I swear it was just tab at boot but for some reason that's not working.
[21:04] <WXZ> ThinkT510: I'll check out expose after nomad, or during, I don't know
[21:04] <ThinkT510> WXZ: have you used unity?
[21:05] <gaby_> ActionParsnip: how to identify the one i dont need ? - it will know by it self - or i should specify it ?
[21:05] <WXZ> ThinkT510: it's possible
[21:05] <cris_> ello room
[21:06] <crundar> I want to run a script at startup. which rcX.d directory does it go to. Is this related to the runlevel?
[21:06] <ThinkT510> WXZ: when you press the workspaces icon it zooms out to display all workspaces and their content (that is what i'm talking about)
[21:06] <WXZ> escott: I like having different panels for my workspaces though, the "taskbar" is going to be extremely cluttered
[21:06] <escott> crundar, /etc/rc.local
[21:06] <WXZ> escott: but yeah, what you said is kind of like my last resort
[21:07] <escott> WXZ, how many physical displays do you have. im still confused on that
[21:07] <WXZ> escott: just one, but I'm getting one really big one on boxing day (maybe).
[21:08] <WXZ> ThinkT510: I might be using Unity then. Is the default shortcut for that Win + E?
[21:09] <Justin_jtb7rmv> thanks you
[21:09] <ThinkT510> WXZ: i don't think so
[21:10] <schmichael> can i switch from 32bit to 64bit by adding amd64 as a foreign-arch and force installing a 64bit kernel?
[21:10] <escott> schmichael, no
[21:12] <WXZ> ThinkT510: Oh yeah, I played around with Unity, I remember I hated it.
[21:12] <rocio_> dd
[21:12] <ThinkT510> WXZ: unity uses compiz, so that feature comes from compiz
[21:12] <brontosaurusrex> WXZ: blasphemy
[21:13] <schmichael> escott: what's the easiest way to switch? can i just reinstall inplace?
[21:13] <ThinkT510> WXZ: but you can use compiz with other desktop environments (like xfce or lxde)
[21:13] <escott> schmichael, yeah, backup home and reisntall
[21:13] <ThinkT510> WXZ: kde's kwin has a very similar feature too
[21:13] <WXZ> ThinkT510: ofcourse I use compiz, I've been using compiz before I even knew what Unity was.
[21:14] <schmichael> escott: is there a way to reinstall w/o using a cd? i haven't had to burn a cd in ages :)
[21:14] <escott> schmichael, usb
[21:15] <schmichael> escott: heh, i don't even have a thumbdrive... there's no way to reinstall inplace?
[21:15] <felipe_Brz> i've disabled compiz by mistake... now all i have on my ubuntu screen is a bar at the top that says file, edit, view, go ,bookmarks.... is there anything I can do to restore it? i have access to nothing, i managed to open firefox by opening a html file
[21:15] <schmichael> i have a windows partition... isn't there a windows installer? (this is getting silly)
[21:15] <escott> schmichael, not a supported way
[21:16] <yeats> !install | schmichael
[21:16] <felipe_Brz> basically i just have access to folders and links on my desktop
[21:16] <genii-around> schmichael: Maybe debootstrap
[21:16] <felipe_Brz> other user accounts still have the default unity UI though
[21:16] <felipe_Brz> but my main one hasn't anything at all apart form the desktop icons and the bar at the top I mentioned earlier
[21:17] <felipe_Brz> i don't even know how to access the terminal anymore
[21:17] <schmichael> yeats: awesome! there's a From Linux Installation guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[21:18] <yeats> schmichael: happy to help
[21:18] <schmichael> kind of crazy that it's easier to install ubuntu from windows than from ubuntu
[21:18] <ThinkT510> felipe_Brz: does ctrl+alt+t get you a terminal?
[21:18] <felipe_Brz> ThinkT510:  yes it does
[21:18] <yeats> schmichael: it's a totally different process
[21:19] <schmichael> yeah, i guess i'm looking to manipulate in place, whereas windows has the luxury of knowing the linux partition isn't being used
[21:19] <yeats> schmichael: personally I think it would be worth your time/money/effort to go buy a USB
[21:19] <ThinkT510> felipe_Brz: try: compiz --replace &&
[21:19] <yeats> s/USB/USB thumb drive/
[21:19] <oneremainsclear> I'm trying to delete old system files in Windows 7, I switched into Ubuntu to delete the files there but now I can't see the files. They are on my D: drive and I can see all of the files on my C: drive, but not the D.
[21:19] <felipe_Brz> ThinkT510:  i add a semicolon at the end?
[21:20] <felipe_Brz> after the && ?
[21:20] <ThinkT510> sure
[21:20] <yeats> oneremainsclear: ubuntu doesn't enumerate drives the same way as windows, so no C: or D:, just /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc.
[21:21] <felipe_Brz> did you mean just compiz --replace with the && at the end? ThinkT510
[21:21] <suhaib> where is the file that holds the sudo ? i want to add reboot so that i can run without sudo
[21:21] <ThinkT510> felipe_Brz: yes
[21:21] <oneremainsclear> I know, the files I am trying to delete are on a partition, I have found the partition in ubuntu but I can't see the files.
[21:21] <bekks> suhaib: /etc/sudoers
[21:21] <suhaib> bekks: thanks
[21:22] <WXZ> ThinkT510: yes, Expo is Win + E. But the workspaces are linearly shown so they're incredibly small, maybe if i tile them correctly and on a large screen it could work though.
[21:22] <ThinkT510> WXZ: ah yeah, expo, forgot what it was called
[21:23] <guntbert> suhaib: be very careful when editing that file - best always use visudo
[21:24] <oneremainsclear> yeats:  I know, the files I am trying to delete are on a partition, I have found the partition in ubuntu but I can't see the files.
[21:24] <suhaib> guntbewhat about sudo nano ? cuase am not familiar with visudo
[21:25] <goddard> anyone know an easy way to clean up my boot process
[21:25] <felipe_Brz> ThinkT510: sorry to keep disturbing you... I did compiz --replace but after a while my computer froze and I have to force turn it off
[21:25] <yeats> suhaib: the 'visudo' command will use the default editor (which is nano)
[21:25] <ThinkT510> goddard: a fresh install would do the trick ;)
[21:25] <goddard> ive upgraded a few times
[21:25] <suhaib> yeats: aha alright
[21:26] <guntbert> suhaib: visudo can be told to use nano as editor but the point is that it checks the file for syntax errors before writing it to disk, so you don't lock yourself out accidentially
[21:26] <goddard> ThinkT510: ya but weeks of reconfiguring
[21:26] <ThinkT510> goddard: weeks? what did you do?
[21:26] <felipe_Brz> i'm trying it again...this is what I'm seeing as output http://pastie.org/5433325
[21:26] <guntbert> !tab | suhaib
[21:26] <felipe_Brz> it isn't going any further than Setting Update "icon_only" so far....
[21:27] <suhaib> guntbert: tahnks for telling me about the tab
[21:28] <guntbert> suhaib: :)
[21:29] <ThinkT510> felipe_Brz: how about: unity --reset
[21:30] <theadmin> ThinkT510: That was removed in 12.10
[21:32] <ThinkT510> theadmin: know whats used instead?
[21:33] <theadmin> ThinkT510: Well there's some crazy thing to do with dconf and stuff
[21:33] <theadmin> ThinkT510: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[21:35] <ThinkT510> theadmin: interesting, cheers
[21:35] <phunyguy_t430s> UGH, there goes gvfsd again!
[21:35] <hypercity> how can i restart the sound sistem in 12.04 withbout restarting the pc?
[21:35] <phunyguy_t430s> this time importing music data to Rhythmbox.
[21:35] <theadmin> hypercity: sudo restart pulseaudio
[21:36] <felipe_Brz> ThinkT510:  thank you very much for helping... unity --reset did the trick for me
[21:36] <felipe_Brz> all back to normal =)
[21:36] <ThinkT510> !yay | felipe_Brz
[21:37] <hypercity> theadmin: restart: Unknown job: pulseaudio
[21:37] <CoolKid> Is there an app to change the brightness of the monitor like we get on the laptops (in System settings -> brightness and lock)?
[21:37] <theadmin> hypercity: Eh. Just do a "pulseaudio --kill" then
[21:38] <ThinkT510> CoolKid: doesn't the fn key combo work?
[21:38] <alusion_> Hey ubuntu I was working from tty1 and as I was updating I went back to my regular display [12.04 KDE] and my monitor just goes off not registering the display.
[21:38] <_W2w222> _}
[21:38] <ThinkT510> CoolKid: ah silly me, you aren't on a laptop
[21:38] <CoolKid> ThinkT510: yeah :)
[21:38] <theadmin> CoolKid: Use the buttons on your monitor then?
[21:39] <theadmin> Oh well I'm off
[21:39] <alusion_> What are some ways to upload or share a text file from command line?
[21:39] <CoolKid> theadmin: I don't want to use the buttons on the monitor, that's why lookin for an app.
[21:39] <jrib> !pastebinit | alusion_
[21:40] <anon_> I connected my Desktop with Kubuntu 12.10 from the DVI graphic port via an analog adapter to the vga port to my TV. When I choose the PC port in the menu of the TV I can see the Kubuntu Desktop but the screen refreshed every 5 seconds. I can not seem to fix it. Can anybody help? It drives me insane.
[21:41] <hypercity> theadmin: i think i need a more profound restart like alsa or something becouse i cannot start the jack audio server , dbus error, pls help
[21:41] <CoolKid> anyone?
[21:41] <ThinkT510> CoolKid: well, brightness controls are monitor specific so i guess you don't really have a choice
[21:42] <goddard> ThinkT510: how can i clean up the boot process?
[21:42] <ThinkT510> goddard: good question, what is running that you don't want running?
[21:42] <goddard> I have "K Display Manager" and several other start up processes that load when my computer starts
[21:43] <alusion_> Thanks jrib  8)
[21:43] <CoolKid> ThinkT510: I'm sure there's something we can do, I'll go look it up. Thanks for your response :)
[21:44] <Rask> Hello, channel.  In Ubuntu, is there anywhere else but /etc/init.d/ where the command line used to invoke a daemon might be stored?  I installed bitlbee a while back and changed the port it listens on, but I can't for the life of me find where I did it...
[21:45] <ThinkT510> !upstart | Rask
[21:45] <guntbert> Rask: if it is upstart enabled you will find it in /etc/init
[21:46] <Rask> guntbert: It doesn't seem to be.
[21:46] <Rask> Just grepped all the files in that directory, no mention of the nonstandard port I used...
[21:46] <jrib> Rask: what ubuntu version is this?
[21:47] <Rask> jrib: Oneiric.
[21:47] <alusion_> jrib: I want to output commands from terminal into pastebin and can echo the link
[21:47] <oneremainsclear> I'm trying to delete old system files in Windows 7, I switched into Ubuntu to delete the files there but now I can't see the files. They are on my D: drive and I can see all of the files on my C: drive, but not the D.  I know that ubuntu doesn't enumerate the drives but I have located the drives in Ubuntu and am still having trouble accessing the files.
[21:47] <goddard> is there a start up process manager for ubuntu?
[21:48] <jrib> Rask: it's /etc/init.d/bitlbee .  There's also /etc/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf which may be where you made the change but last time I checked that has no effect since the port is explicitly set in the init script
[21:48] <guntbert> Rask: use dpkg -L bitlbee to find the files it installed
[21:48] <jrib> alusion_: sure, you can use pastebinit for that
[21:48] <jrib> !upstart | goddard
[21:49] <jrib> goddard: what do you want to accomplish?
[21:49] <Rask> jrib: I thought so too, but the port is set to the default of 6667 there, while ps aux | grep "bitlbee" shows it was invoked with port 8833 on the command line.
[21:49] <jrib> Rask: how did you start bitlbee?
[21:49] <alusion_> jrib: my display crashed, and I have a lot of important windows open so I'm trying to fix it from tty lol
[21:50] <jrib> Rask: you may be starting bitlbee as your user or something.  Check crontab for example
[21:50] <goddard> jrib: i want to evaluate my start processes and remove un needed ones
[21:50] <jrib> goddard: ok
[21:50] <damo22> how can i force grub2 to never ask for enter keystroke in ubuntu?
[21:50] <jrib> !grub2 | damo22
[21:51] <jrib> damo22: the various options are detailed in that second link I believe
[21:51] <damo22> cheers
[21:51] <Rask> jrib: Nope, it's start/stopped using the service command... I just terminated and restarted it and it came up using port 8833 again.
[21:51] <Ormus> Hello.
[21:51] <jrib> Rask: is anything else on 6667?
[21:51] <gfefg> Hi
[21:51] <gfefg> Hi
[21:52] <Ormus> I have an Intel E5700 and it says it supports 64 bits architeture.
[21:52] <Ormus> What architeture should I downlkoad to run ubuntu on 64 bits?
[21:52] <mirak> yes
[21:52] <gfefg> I want to add a polkit rule (polkit.addRule....;) for a specific partition, but I don't know how
[21:52] <genii-around> Ormus: The amd64 image
[21:52] <Ormus> hmm
[21:53] <gfefg>  /etc/polkit-1/rules.d that is suggested in most documentation I could find does not exist (&does not work)
[21:54] <damo22> is there a meta package to uninstall ubuntu desktop and install ubuntu server?
[21:54] <Rask> jrib: Just figured it out.  /etc/init.d/bitlbee stealthily includes /etc/default/bitlbee, in which the port is defined...
[21:54] <jrib> Rask: I see
[21:54] <damo22> i want a server install but i only have desktop cd
[21:54] <Rask> thanks, all
[21:55] <guntbert> damo22: better download at least the !minimal  CD and start with that
[21:55] <damo22> doh
[21:55] <Flannel> damo22: Which desktop CD do you have?
[21:55] <damo22> 12.04.1 LTS
[21:55] <menvaigadormir> hello
[21:56] <Flannel> damo22: I suggest the alternate CD instead of the minimal CD, but yeah, it's much easier that route than trying to remove.
[21:56] <genii-around> damo22: There's no meta-package for that. But you can install the linux-image-server, then do sudo tasksel   and select LAMP ( and maybe some others like SSH ), then remove ubuntu-desktop
[21:56] <damo22> genii-around: dude thats great, i was thinking that too
[21:57] <guntbert> Flannel: d/ling alternate will need as much time/bandwidth as server, will it not?
[21:57] <damo22> you guys dont realise i live on 3GB data per month
[21:58] <damo22> cant just dl another cd for fun
[21:58] <guntbert> genii-around: removing ubuntu-desktop will not really remove anything (if i remember correctly)
[21:58] <genii-around> guntbert: This is tru since it's a meta
[21:58] <fu6d> any idea why my system would refuse permission to a file while in root?
[21:58] <Ormus> Well I tried the AMD64 image. It just hangs when I try to run it from USB.
[21:58] <jrib> damo22: do you really care of ubuntu-desktop gets removed?  Just see what's running and remove the stuff you don't want.  Unless hard drive space is a real concern...
[21:58] <Ormus> shows me a really messy image and just hangs.
[21:58] <jrib> s/of/if
[21:59] <fu6d> any idea why my system would refuse permission to a file while in root?
[21:59] <jrib> fu6d: pastebin what you are actually doing and the full output
[21:59] <damo22> jrib: i didnt use the hyphen because i wasnt referring to the package itself, i meant i dont want a desktop environment at all and was wondering if i can install a minimalistic system with server kernel
[22:00] <genii-around> jrib: Yes, that's why I suggested that route, since most people wouldn't really care if the packages were still actually on there from -desktop unless space was a consideration, etc
[22:00] <jrib> damo22: sure, but if you don't care about hard drive space, then it shouldn't make much of a difference
[22:01] <damo22> jrib: i just dont know how to install this using the desktop cd
[22:01] <jrib> damo22: there's no special server kernel any more by the way
[22:01] <almoxarife> fu6d: who owns the file?
[22:01] <jrib> damo22: define "this"
[22:02] <fu6d> jrib: can't. connecting to you thru windows. but what i'm trying to access is the wpa_supplicant.conf file. i'm doing so in root.
[22:02] <gfefg> I want to add a polkit rule (polkit.addRule....;) for a specific partition, but I don't know how
[22:02] <gfefg>  /etc/polkit-1/rules.d that is suggested in most documentation I could find does not exist (&does not work)
[22:02] <damo22> jrib: a system that allows me not to have to hit enter ever during bootup even when there are errors, and no X
[22:02] <jrib> fu6d: I don't understand why you can't.  Type it in if you have to.
[22:02] <gfefg> can anyone give me pointers?
[22:02] <fu6d> jrib: no internet access on my linux box
[22:02] <fu6d> jrib: sure
[22:03] <jrib> damo22: what errors?  If you don't want X, then see ubottu, or just get rid of the lightdm package
[22:03] <jrib> !text > damo22
[22:03] <billbill> hello all you friendly noob here
[22:04] <fu6d> [root@localhost admin]# /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf || output: bash: /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf: Permission Denied
[22:04] <billbill> help please i like to set the lamp stack up on ubuntu so i can start to play with apache, my sql and php
[22:04] <guntbert> !lamp | billbill
[22:05] <Ormus> genii-around: Well I tried the AMD64 image. It just hangs when I try to run it from USB. Shows me a really messy image and just hangs.
[22:05] <fu6d> i have no idea why it wont let me access it even in root
[22:05] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | Ormus
[22:06] <bekks> fu6d: You cant execute that file. You have to edit it.
[22:06] <Ormus> hmm ok I will try that
[22:07] <fu6d> bekks: you're exactly right. but even when i open it using "nano /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf" i still get "Permission Denied"
[22:07] <bekks> fu6d: sudo nano ....
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> fu6d  or sudo -e ...
[22:08] <TLoT> jrib, RE: damo22, he's looking to set grub to not pause for any keystroke (i.e. just instant-boot Ubuntu and not need any interaction)
[22:09] <fu6d> yes! thank you bekks and moneydust. it worked
[22:09] <Cordel^> i have a pure netwrk connection question
[22:09] <Cordel^> if someone can help me
[22:09] <TLoT> !someone | Cordel^
[22:09] <Cordel^> i realize this is a ubuntu chat room
[22:09] <ThinkT510> Cordel^: they'd have to see the question first
[22:09] <Snane> nuh uh
[22:09] <Justin_jtb7rmv> thanks you
[22:10] <Cordel^> is it possible to take 2 netwrok adapters
[22:10] <LordCrc> hi, on 12.10, i want to try to change xorg options described in http://www.emmolution.org/?p=268 on a livecd (to see if it works)... how to best do this?
[22:10] <Cordel^> and have them pass through packet information
[22:10] <Cordel^> like they are a hub
[22:10] <Cordel^> i dont have a hub but need to capture packets using wireshark
[22:10] <Cordel^> using 2 network adapters on my laptop
[22:11] <muelli> Cordel^: why don't you just listen in both interfaces then? With wireshark that is
[22:11] <Cordel^> well the comouter i need to monitor packets from
[22:11] <aLusi0n> Hey ubuntu my KDM graphical environment crashed I am working from tty how do I reset it?
[22:11] <Cordel^> is a seperate machine
[22:12] <muelli> aLusi0n: hm. sudo server kdm restart  maybe?
[22:12] <Justin_jtb7rmv> i am setting up shall server at terninal in ubuntu now
[22:12] <TLoT> !enter | Cordel^, FYI
[22:12] <muelli> hm Cordel^. I don't understand your setup, but I think you can do what you want with iptables.
[22:12] <Justin_jtb7rmv> i am setting up shall server in ubuntu now
[22:12] <Cordel^> basically i just need 1 network adapter to pass all its packets to the other adapter
[22:12] <TLoT> Cordel^, so what you're looking for is to have a system set up as a gateway (i.e. all data on your network goes through it?)
[22:13] <TLoT> (sort of like a router?)
[22:13] <aLusi0n> muelli: didn't work
[22:13] <Cordel^> i need both network adapters on my computer to literally act as a hub
[22:13] <Cordel^> (not a switch)
[22:13] <muelli> aLusi0n: sorry, i meant "service" not "server".
[22:14] <sambagirl> does anyonne here run openfire server / service?
[22:14] <muelli> !anyone | sambagirl
[22:14] <Cordel^> is this the same as network bridging?
[22:14] <TLoT> Cordel^, so for networking topography, you want this?   otherSystem <-> LAPTOP <-> INTERNET  ?
[22:15] <billbill> !lamp
[22:15] <Cordel^>  yes
[22:15] <Cordel^> exactly
[22:15]  * sambagirl yawns 
[22:15] <Ormus> yohey, thanks
[22:15] <almoxarife> Cordel^: cut to the chase, you trying to sniff or you trying to manage network adapters?
[22:15] <Ormus> I'm running it now lol
[22:15] <tozen> hi all ! does it possible to regulate distance between tray icons #ubi 12.04 unity# http://itmages.ru/image/view/776102/17017ae8
[22:15] <Cordel^> sniff
[22:15] <TLoT> almoxarife, he's trying to set up his laptop to act as a gateway server so he can sniff all the packets in-to/out-of the other system and the internet.
[22:15] <Cordel^> i want to sniff another computers packets but dont have a hub
[22:16] <Cordel^> i figured i could make 2 adapters on my laptop act as a hub
[22:16] <muelli> I would have imagined packet forwarding/masquerading to just work nowadays.
[22:16] <Justin_jtb7rmv> press h
[22:17] <muelli> anyway Cordel^, these are the keywords to search for. It involves a tiny bit of iptables. Not too hard.
[22:17] <gordonjcp> muelli: it does "just work"
[22:17] <Ormus> How do I change the resolution to a widescreen one with nomodeset parameter?
[22:17] <almoxarife> Cordel^: the other computer attached to yours how?
[22:18] <Cordel^> crossover cable
[22:19] <almoxarife> Cordel^: use wireshark, choose the connection(crossover-what ever it is, eth????), tried that?
[22:19] <ironhalik> Hello. I'm running two displays using nvidia twinview. I'm planning on adding a third display and change the GPU to AMD Radeon. I wonder if AMD drivers support similiar mode to nvidias twinview (single xserver but with no 'void' areas when one display is shorter then the other one)
[22:19] <aLusi0n> muelli: it worked at first but then it gets stuck now in a load
[22:19] <usr13> almoxarife: He has to set up his NAT firewall first.
[22:20] <Cordel^> well ya i can do that
[22:20] <Cordel^> but i need the computer i am sniffing to have acces to the internet
[22:20] <billbill> hello i opened my home folder and then  /var  then /www now i want to make a file or directory called test.php
[22:20] <billbill> how do i do this
[22:20] <Cordel^> i need to sniff the packets when it is communicating over the internet
[22:21] <usr13> Cordel^: So share the internet from one NIC to the other, (set up a NAT firewall-router).
[22:21] <triad> hm
[22:21] <muelli> billbill: touch /var/www/test.php
[22:21] <Cordel^> do the IP software stacks communicate internally?
[22:21] <almoxarife> Cordel^: this is not about ubuntu anymore, you want to be a sniffer do some research
[22:22] <Cordel^> will the dhcp request get sent to the other adapter?
[22:22] <billbill> where do itype that muelli in the terminal
[22:22] <muelli> billbill: yes
[22:23] <TeraQuibbler> hey i have a major problem all of a sudden i have no sound in gnome3, i go to sound options and in  hardware list there is nothing, empty list. Also my selected output is dummy audio. What can i do?
[22:23] <billbill> says i can not touch permission denied
[22:24] <muelli> !sound | TeraQuibbler
[22:25] <TeraQuibbler> muelli: i tried all that
[22:25] <TeraQuibbler> sound worked fine up until now
[22:25] <almoxarife> TeraQuibbler: pastebin the file /var/log/syslog
[22:25] <almoxarife> !pastebin | TeraQuibbler
[22:26] <usr13> Cordel^: No, it will be a different network on the other NIC.
[22:27] <tozen> hi all ! does it possible to regulate distance between tray icons #ubi 12.04 unity# http://itmages.ru/image/view/776102/17017ae8
[22:30] <yello> i added a screen (dual screens), and now i have no sound, why?
[22:32] <almoxarife> yello: what does the system log say?
[22:32] <yello> where is it?
[22:33] <almoxarife> yello: /var/log/syslog
[22:34] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do you setting up irc server in ubuntu?
[22:34] <yello> [pulseaudio] module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-card" ---------> initialization failed on USB (Midi).. i try remove it?
[22:35] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do you setting up irc server in ubuntu?
[22:36] <almoxarife> Justin_jtb7rmv: depends on the client, but one needs a server address and a port at a minimum
[22:36] <almoxarife> yello: is 'pulseaudio' running now?
[22:37] <yello> dont know what pulseaudio is, but i installed pavucontrol and alsa..
[22:37] <yello> it worked for many logouts.......
[22:37] <yello> till i attached new screen..........
[22:37] <billbiil> muelli i  i go5 dc
[22:38] <almoxarife> yello: see the line you pasted? in brackets, audio server
[22:38] <yello> ?
[22:38] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do you setting up unrealircd server in ubuntu?
[22:39] <TLoT> Justin_jtb7rmv, you go download unrealircd, and follow the documentatino for setup
[22:39] <yello> btw, i only have "Dummy output now"
[22:39] <IdleOne> Justin_jtb7rmv: you look at unrealircd website and read the instructions
[22:39] <TLoT> Justin_jtb7rmv, http://www.unrealircd.com/  <-- start here, read the instructions.
[22:39] <brontosaurusrex> Justin_jtb7rmv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrcServer
[22:40] <almoxarife> yello: is 'pulseaudio' running now?
[22:40] <yello> i dont know.
[22:40] <yello> how to see?
[22:40] <almoxarife> yello: gui or terminal?
[22:40] <tozen> hi all ! does it possible to regulate distance between tray icons #ubi 12.04 unity# http://itmages.ru/image/view/776102/17017ae8
[22:41] <billbiil> !lamp
[22:41] <yello> yes it was running, i checked with killall -9 pulseaudio :D:D
[22:41] <xangua> tozen: or you could just use indicators...lie the pidgin indicator, the xchat indicator
[22:41] <billbiil> chrisward that played utopia?
[22:41] <xangua> too back those two are broken in 12.10 :/
[22:42] <yello> same error when starting pulseaudio.. something about midi, midi worked fine before:S
[22:42] <tozen> xangua: i mean smth like a "|" between icons
[22:42] <almoxarife> yello: was running, so it is not running, reboot, see if you have sound again
[22:43] <yello> ah thanks, i just switched USB port tho, it worked
[22:43] <yello> bb
[22:44] <almoxarife> it worked? :) what worked? 'it' did
[22:45] <chrisward> billbiil, I don't even know what utopia is
[22:46] <damo22> okay which cd should i get if i want custom install and possibly a server install?
[22:47] <damo22> should i go for alternate or server
[22:47] <almoxarife> damo22: get 'mini.iso'
[22:47] <bekks> damo22: Depends on what you want.
[22:48] <almoxarife> damo22: no more 'alternate'
[22:48] <damo22> LTS
[22:48] <Flannel> damo22: The mini ISO is the alternate CD without packages.  The alternate CD is a superset of the server CD.
[22:48] <damo22> Flannel: thanks
[22:50] <damo22> thats great, i'll go mini and install over the network
[22:50] <damo22> :)
[22:51] <damo22> reminds me of debian netinst
[22:59] <iceroot> damo22: its the debian-installer ubuntu is using there
[23:01] <LovesLinux> not sure if this is the right place to ask but in a recompling a distro is there any place to look uo docs on how Ubuntu differs to Debian at the building stage (rather than examining source)?
[23:01] <genio_> guys ..  how use paltok on ubuntu !! :(
[23:02] <phunyguy_t430s> Is there an easy way to disable the overlay scrollbars for a single app?
[23:02] <almoxarife> genio_: via the webpage
[23:02] <drecute> I want to query samba 4 ad domain running on a remote machine from an ubuntu client machine. How do I do this?
[23:03] <trism> phunyguy_t430s: LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 appname;
[23:04] <phunyguy_t430s> trism, just add that to the app.desktop file?
[23:04] <Erin> drecute, smbcient -L username Ip
[23:04] <LovesLinux> smbclient*
[23:04] <Erin> yup ;-]
[23:05] <phunyguy_t430s> trism, I did that, and it won't select the app now in the unity launcher
[23:05] <trism> phunyguy_t430s: you'd probably have to make a script, my gthumb script has: #!/bin/sh export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0; gthumb "$@";
[23:05] <phunyguy_t430s> oh.
[23:06] <trism> phunyguy_t430s: then you can run that script in the .desktop file
[23:06] <phunyguy_t430s> then point to the script in the .desktop file
[23:06] <phunyguy_t430s> got it.
[23:06] <phunyguy_t430s> trism, what is the significance of "$@" ?
[23:06] <trism> phunyguy_t430s: pass any command line args to gthumb, since I use it from the nautilus context menu
[23:07] <phunyguy_t430s> yup I will need that as well.  thanks
[23:07] <LovesLinux> trism so its like a wild card for $1 42 etc?
[23:07] <trism> LovesLinux: indeed
[23:07] <LovesLinux> $2*
[23:07] <LovesLinux> cool
[23:08] <phunyguy_t430s> trism, what is your exec line in the .desktop file?
[23:10] <Tisghy> ola
[23:10] <Erin> Hola.
[23:10] <Freeder> Hi, can anyone tell me how to reinstall the CommandNotFound module from the ubuntu dist of python? It apparently is something the ubuntu devs added in
[23:11] <trism> phunyguy_t430s: Exec=/home/jconti/bin/gthumb %U
[23:11] <Dr_willis_> !find commandnotfound
[23:11] <Dr_willis_> hmmm..
[23:12] <Freeder> !find gdbm
[23:12] <escott> !find command-not-found
[23:12] <LovesLinux> Freeder if you get a command not found error your syntax is usually incorrect or the binary being called is not instaslled
[23:12] <Freeder> LovesLinux: this is something a little more advanced than just that, but thank you- its a python module that broke on upgrade, that hooks the command line and suggest 'did you mean this?' type stuff
[23:13] <phunyguy_t430s> YES!! I got it!  trism, I just made a /usr/share/applications/customscripts folder, put the new script in there, and then changed the exec line to sh that script and all is well.  thanks for the help.
[23:13] <phunyguy_t430s> now it will be correct for all users.
[23:13] <LovesLinux> Freeder oh so this is a script that corrects human errors nice
[23:13] <trism> phunyguy_t430s: excellent
[23:13] <Freeder> escott: command-not-found is already the newest version. (according to apt)
[23:14] <Freeder> this is on 10.10
[23:14] <Freeder> so Im' thinking support was dropped for it at python2.6 . When I upgraded to 2.7, it still sees the old stuf as the most current
[23:17] <LovesLinux> Freeder ./configure; make; make test; make install
[23:17] <Freeder> LovesLinux: this is an ubuntu function added to the binary, doesn't exist in source
[23:17] <Freeder> .. the apt repo binary
[23:18] <ikonia> what ?
[23:18] <Erin> uhhh
[23:18] <Erin> anything an app can do must be in the source...
[23:18] <LovesLinux> Freeder do they have a website?
[23:19] <Freeder> Distro dev's commonly add in 'features' to the official repos offered
[23:19] <Erin> Freeder, yes, but how do they dd them? through the source code.....
[23:19] <Erin> add*
[23:20] <LovesLinux> Freeder I see I dont use Ubuntu much, is this closed source then?
[23:20] <Freeder> they don't add it to the official python source
[23:20] <Tag365> Ubuntu?
[23:20] <ikonia> LovesLinux: what is your actual question, lets see if we can resolve this
[23:20] <tuxmatt> hey all
[23:20] <jrib> Freeder: you know 10.10 is no longer supported?
[23:20] <Erin> Freeder, im no expert but how can an app do anything if it is not programmed to do so through the blueprints aka source code...
[23:21] <Erin> It just sounds like you are implying some 'skynet' like activity and it scares me :-(
[23:21] <Freeder> jrib: yes
[23:22] <tuxmatt> you cant have software without code in it Erin
[23:22] <Freeder> Erin: Python devs write their source. Ubuntu devs take that source, add in their own flavor, compile, and offer it on the ubuntu apt repos.
[23:22] <LovesLinux> ikonia as an experienced Linux user and server admin I asked is CommandNotFound open sourced or closed source. Are you a bot?
[23:22] <Freeder> the source, afaik, that the ubuntu devs use is not released
[23:22] <Erin> tuxmatt, yea I am aware of this...
[23:22] <ikonia> LovesLinux: why would I be bot ?
[23:23] <ikonia> !info CommandNotFound
[23:23] <Erin> Freeder, im ure it is released, ubuntu is open source....
[23:23] <ikonia> ok - so it's not a seperate package.
[23:23] <Freeder> ikonia, I actually think it is
[23:23] <Freeder> !find command-not-found
[23:23] <LovesLinux> ikonia I just thought you might have been a bot who parsed my input to ask a question
[23:23] <ikonia> what is the package name ?
[23:23] <tuxmatt> what is everyone running right now
[23:23] <Freeder> but, support for 10.10 stopped at python2.6
[23:24] <Erin> Freeder, why not update then, 10.10 is ancient ;-p
[23:24] <WXZ> anyway to window the virtual desktops in gnome?
[23:24] <ikonia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandNotFoundMagic
[23:24] <Freeder> I upgraded to 2.7, but obviously the commandnotfound didnt tag along with it
[23:24] <escott> WXZ, you might try something with xnest its all really strange though
[23:24] <WXZ> but seemlessly, not like expo
[23:24] <Freeder> I've been manually copying over the modules needed as I can find them, but figured i'd ask to see if anyone knew where a different 2.7 repo may be that I can snag it from
[23:25] <WXZ> escott: I'm getting closer the more I read, there's other ways of attaining the same effect via different methods
[23:25] <jrib> Freeder: 10.10 isn't supported, you should just upgrade
[23:25] <escott> WXZ, http://superuser.com/questions/115076/how-to-vertically-split-widescreen-into-two-virtual-workspaces-on-ubuntu-gnome
[23:25] <Freeder> jrib, not an option, but thanks
[23:25] <WXZ> awww yeah, that sounds like the good stuff
[23:26] <Freeder> ikonia: the two links referenced in that article are dead
[23:26] <ikonia> Freeder: that seems a pretty clear message
[23:26] <Dr_willis_> 'its dead jim!'
[23:27] <Erin> Freeder, so you would rather jerry-rig something to work and spend tons of time doing so and maybe not succeed insted of doing a simple upgrade ?
[23:27] <ikonia> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=command-not-found
[23:27] <ikonia> http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/command-not-found
[23:27] <Freeder> Erin: Im' assuming you're not a real system administrator, are you
[23:27] <Freeder> there's no such thing as a 'simple upgrade'
[23:28] <Erin> I never said I was, just a linux user....?
[23:28] <LovesLinux> Freeder do you have any 2.6 packages stil installed (maybe due to deps) I had a similiar issue with Ruby recently 1.8 v 1.9 and removing packages and doing some symlinkage fixed
[23:28] <mathnerd314_> my screen (in particular, the upper right corner) is partially corrupted: http://i.imgur.com/3iEhV.png It's sporadic and randomly goes away / comes back when I switch windows. Any ideas on how to fix it?
[23:29] <jrib> mathnerd314_: that happens to me with nouveau but the nvidia drivers work ok
[23:31] <zerothis> I need to test a motorcycle design for stability. What's good Linux app that will let me build and test a virtual design?
[23:33] <LovesLinux> zerothis not something I know about but as a dev think thee will only be M$ apps for that (written by the Manufacturer)
[23:33] <Catbuntu> Hi
[23:33] <G4r37h> wow people still write M$?
[23:33] <LovesLinux> lol
[23:33] <G4r37h> ;)
[23:33] <ikonia> it's pretty sad
[23:33] <zerothis> LovesLinux if microsoft made a physics simulator, i wouldn't use it.
[23:34] <mathnerd314_> jrib: I have an ATI Radeon HD 6550, so I'm not certain how relevant that is. should I try the proprietary ATI drivers?
[23:34] <jrib> mathnerd314_: I don't know.  Just relating my own experience
[23:36] <LovesLinux> mathnerd314 your not going to play games unless steam actually hits the hoped for target, unless your using anything grafic intensive the open source drivers have always worked fine for me on various distros. I dont do anything graphic intensive though
[23:36] <Chakotay_> I just installed 12.10 64 bit on my PC. I am dual booting with Windows 7. After I installed, I tried to startup, and I keep getting this message... error: no such device: 6500b52d-917b-4ce7-be82-886a0d767705. grub rescue> I thought it may have been a bad install, so I reinstalled from a USB drive this time. I'm getting the same message. Can anyone help with this?
[23:37] <ikonia> Chakotay_: it's basically looking for a disk device that doesn't exist
[23:37] <Evil_Eric> mathnerd314_, are you running just amd or do you have one of those hybrid cards thats intel/amd combo
[23:37] <ikonia> Chakotay_: that is a UUID reference for a disk device/partition
[23:37] <escott> Chakotay_, how does it appear in "sudo blkid"
[23:37] <Chakotay_> ikonia: How can I fix it?
[23:38] <ikonia> Chakotay_: fix your grub configuration to point at the right UUID
[23:38] <mathnerd314_> Evil_Eric: it's this chip: http://www.amazon.com/AMD-A8-3870K-Graphics-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B006J420UE
[23:38] <Chakotay_> ikonia: is there a tutorial on how to do that?
[23:38] <jesusemelendezm> Hi Guys
[23:39] <e66> I have three 4 volumes. swp, ext4 and 2 ntfs. In the ntfs volume I have windows. Now In the installer prompt which option should I select, "entire disk" ?
[23:39] <mathnerd314_> Evil_Eric: with this motherboard: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058G670I
[23:39] <LovesLinux> chakotay try changing the grub.conf or the equivelant in grub2 to point to the device rather than uid
[23:39] <Evil_Eric> ahhh yeah mathnerd314_  you can just run the propritary drivers then
[23:39] <Chakotay_> escott: No, just the way I wrote it out
[23:39] <Evil_Eric> i thought you might of had a graphics set up like mine
[23:40] <escott> Chakotay_, run "sudo blkid" and find that UUID
[23:40] <ikonia> Chakotay_: do not do what LovesLinux said
[23:40] <LovesLinux> ikonia why not?
[23:40] <ikonia> LovesLinux: because it's wrong
[23:41] <Chakotay_> ikonia: OK
[23:41] <LovesLinux> ikonia and why?
[23:41] <ikonia> Chakotay_: you need to first understand which part of grub is failing, then fix that part so that the grub.conf is correctly generated
[23:41] <ikonia> Chakotay_: you do not edit hte grub config directly as it will be overwritten when updates come in a trigger the dynamic update of the config
[23:41] <LovesLinux> ikonia /dev/sda makes what diff to a uid
[23:41] <ikonia> LovesLinux: what ?
[23:41] <Chakotay_> ikonia: OK, so I should boot into Live CD right?
[23:41] <ikonia> Chakotay_: first question are you dual booting this with windows ?
[23:41] <LovesLinux> ikonia rather than using a uuid why not point to the disk by dev ?
[23:42] <Chakotay_> ikonia: sorry if that is a stupid question. I
[23:42] <ikonia> LovesLinux: I didn't say you can't use /dev/sda - I said do not edit the grub.conf manually
[23:42] <Chakotay_> ikonia: yes
[23:42] <escott> LovesLinux, its not stable across hardware changes and it may not even be stable across boots
[23:42] <Chakotay_> ikonia: Windows 7
[23:42] <ikonia> Chakotay_: ok, second question, when you boot, do you get a grub menu offering you windows or ubuntu ?
[23:42] <ikonia> or is that where you get the error straight away
[23:42] <ikonia> (no menu, just error)
[23:43] <Chakotay_> ikonia: No, after I go through my BIOS screen I get the Missing operating system message
[23:43] <drecute> Erin: Hi
[23:43] <ikonia> Chakotay_: when do you get the error you stated then ?
[23:44] <drecute> Erin: I'm not listing really
[23:44] <drecute> I want to connect to browse the db
[23:44] <Chakotay_> ikonia: right after the missing operating message appears. About 10  seconds later
[23:44] <ikonia> Chakotay_: ok, that's interesting, are you using two seperate hard disks ?
[23:45] <Chakotay_> ikonia: No
[23:45] <drecute> Erin: I'm constantly getting Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME when trying to correct
[23:45] <drecute> s/correct/connect
[23:45] <ikonia> Chakotay_: so one disk, partitioned ?
[23:45] <Chakotay_> ikonia: Yes
[23:45] <LovesLinux> ikonia so for legacy always modify menu.lst?
[23:45] <drecute> Erin: at least I know that that the netbios name is correct
[23:45] <ikonia> LovesLinux: he's not using legacy
[23:45] <ikonia> he's using grub2 which has been current with ubuntu for over a year now
[23:45] <LovesLinux> ikonia and the equivelant for grub2
[23:46] <ikonia> Chakotay_: ok, that makes it a little more interesting
[23:46] <ikonia> LovesLinux: there isn't one
[23:46] <ikonia> LovesLinux: it works differently, which is why I advised him not to do what you said
[23:46] <LovesLinux> ikonia so there n tmplate?
[23:46] <ikonia> no, it works differnt
[23:46] <AndroUser-thanig> which is the best linux distro for home use?
[23:46] <ikonia> it's generated dynamically
[23:47] <ikonia> Chakotay_: ok, if we just park the "missing operating system" for a moment, and look at getting the ubuntu boot
[23:47] <Chakotay_> ikonia: I installed 3 times thinking I did something wrong. I first tried from a DVD, then I used a USB that I made with Unetbootin
[23:47] <ikonia> Chakotay_: if you boot into a livecd and do a "sudo blkid" and make a note of the block id's and relevant partitions and bring it back here
[23:48] <jrib> AndroUser-thanig: most here would probably agree that ubuntu is a good distro for home use...  If you're looking for broader answers try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux
[23:48] <Chakotay_> ikonia: Ok, I'm booting into live CD now
[23:49] <jesusemelendezm> hi there, just a quick question. Is there any thing better than VirtualBOX to use on Ubuntu?
[23:49] <AndroUser-thanig> jrib thank you
[23:49] <Ben64> jesusemelendezm: what do you mean by "better"
[23:49] <jesusemelendezm> I wanna run some dedicated servers as VMs such as web server, file server and others. But I don't know how stable is Virtualbox.
[23:50] <Ben64> virtualbox is very good
[23:50] <jesusemelendezm> I wonder if It is suitable for the enterprise.
[23:50] <ikonia> jesusemelendezm: maybe a little research
[23:50] <ikonia> rather than asking a group of strangers
[23:50] <ikonia> if you are considering for enterprise use
[23:50] <LovesLinux> For desktop use any of the "main stream distros" (those In my opinion own windows) are user friendly so Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, but IMO Slackware is easy but my head of our Linux team disagrees ;)
[23:50] <ikonia> the fact that oracle offer it as their official x86 virtual platform should offer you insight
[23:50] <Ben64> something made more for VPSs might be better for enterprise server stuff
[23:51] <Chakotay_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1386687/
[23:51] <jesusemelendezm> I am sorry ikonia, I was doing some research. I found many people use it and also do I. But I 'd like to ask you guys opinion.
[23:51] <ikonia> jesusemelendezm: your research seems poor
[23:51] <jesusemelendezm> haha OK I will do some research. Thanks a lot any way.
[23:51] <ikonia> Chakotay_: interesting,
[23:52] <ikonia> Chakotay_: is b89b0d87-4ac3-447c-93e3-31f461d23ca0 your linux partition ?
[23:52] <Chakotay_> ikonia: yes
[23:52] <ccolorado> hi there, i am having problems adding an ext3 usb drive to a machien. Whenever i tried to mount it i get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[23:52] <ikonia> Chakotay_: so is that the line in the error
[23:53] <ikonia> Chakotay_: that looks the same device ID to me
  virtualbox is for virtualising at a small scale if you want to hypervise at a sever (industrial level) you need something like esx or (yuk) hyperv
[23:53] <ccolorado> i created the ext3 fs with "mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hda1" and fdisk -l says "/dev/sda1              63   312581807   156290872+  83  Linu"
[23:53] <ccolorado> am i missing anything ?
[23:53] <Chakotay_> ikonia: 6500b52d-917b-4ce7-be82-886a0d767705 is the device in the error
[23:53] <ikonia> jesusemelendezm: ignore again what LovesLinux has said
[23:54] <ikonia> Chakotay_: ahh ok, so it's a differnet ID, great, that makes it simple
[23:54] <ipv6hermit> hey guys, I messed up with the nvidia-settings utility and I only see a blank screen
[23:54] <LovesLinux> ikonia again why?
[23:54] <Chakotay_> ikonia: That's a relief
[23:54] <ikonia> LovesLinux: because it's wrong/nonsense
[23:54] <ipv6hermit> is there a command line option I can use to reset to hardware default?
[23:55] <billbiil> i am having issues setting up the lamp stack  and all... i loaded snyaptic manage r to download some stuff i needed but i am sure i messing that up.. if someone has time to baby me and pm it be great
[23:55] <ikonia> Chakotay_: so you'll have to help me here a bit as I'm not on ubuntu, but go into /etc/default/grub
[23:55] <LovesLinux> ikomia explain please?
[23:55] <jesusemelendezm> ikonia, tell me your opinion.
[23:55] <ikonia> LovesLinux: what do you need to explain "you're wrong"
[23:55] <Chakotay_> ikonia: Ok
[23:55] <ikonia> jesusemelendezm: I suggest you research it properly rather than listening to strangers giving you miss information
[23:55] <LovesLinux> ikomia I work for a hosting provider and have experience at 2nd line lvl with hypervisors
[23:55] <ikonia> Chakotay_: look for the line that has the "wrong" UUID
[23:56] <ikonia> LovesLinux: wow - then you should know you're talking nonsense
[23:56] <LovesLinux> ikomia not really but I only use vbox aat desktop lvl
[23:56] <jesusemelendezm> Ok ikonia, I will do that. But It seems like you only know when someone is wrong but you are not willing to share your knowledge. That's not Ubuntu people best practices...
[23:56] <ikonia> LovesLinux: right so "YOU" only use it at desktop level....that means you don't know about it, so stating he needs ESX is nonsense
[23:57] <ikonia> as you don't know
[23:57] <ikonia> jesusemelendezm: ubuntu peoples best practice....please
[23:57] <LovesLinux> ikonia no I see the things at desktop level so do vbox do a clustered version?
[23:58] <ikonia> jesusemelendezm: think about it, if someone says "it's not enterprise level" - I've just told you it's oracle's recommended X86 vrital platform, and that the person who's said "it's not enterprise is wrong" what do you think my opinion is.... think abou tit
[23:58] <Chakotay_> ikonia: I am in /etc/default/grub but I don't see the it
[23:58] <ikonia> LovesLinux: a clustered version ?
[23:58] <jesusemelendezm> got you.
[23:58] <LovesLinux> ikonia is vbox able to do clustered vms?
[23:58] <ikonia> LovesLinux: are you taking about vmotion ?
[23:58] <ikonia> is that what you are trying to reference ?
[23:59] <LovesLinux> ikonia no clustering is spreading storage over netwoked volumes
[23:59] <ikonia> totally
[23:59] <ikonia> clustering != storage
[23:59] <LovesLinux> as well as resources sometimes
[23:59] <Cur10u8> I want to kill myself?