/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/11/26/#bzr.txt

Logan_Can any UDDers please perform this? $ requeue_package.py --full initramfs-tools05:36
bob2don't you want #launchpad instead?05:36
Logan_Someone recommended that I go here for this request.05:36
Logan_jam, maybe?05:38
Logan_Or lifeless?05:39
jamLogan_: lifeless is no longer @canonical, but I'll look into it. One moment.05:39
Logan_Alright, thanks. :)05:39
Logan_I'm requesting it based on http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/ and the linked https://bugs.launchpad.net/udd/+bug/714622 , which recommends running that command for packages that encounter that bzr failure. It has worked in the past.05:40
ubot5Ubuntu bug 714622 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "import fails when lp branch has been push --overwrite'n" [High,Confirmed]05:40
jamLogan_: I have requeued your package.05:43
Logan_Awesome, thanks jam. :)05:44
gourmorning08:40
gouri've a need to use svn to contribute to some open-source project, so wonder how does bzr-svn compare with hg & git's options?08:42
gourotoh, it's sad to see bzr development stalled :-(08:42
lifelessbzr-svn is pretty good08:45
mgzmornin'09:09
jammorning mgz09:10
gourlifeless: what's going  to happen with bzr?09:10
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mathrickhiya13:31
mathrickso what exactly is the difference between development-colo and bzr-colo, and how am I supposed to use the former?13:32
jikuhello All..13:42
jikuim pretty new to bazaar and would like to implement it in my workplace..13:42
jikubzr-explorer is good and would like to master it so that i can talk to developers on how to use it and create a workflow.13:43
jiku1 issue im facing is..13:43
jikui have a revision in the server with name, think-blog..13:43
jikui checkout in a client (win7) machine with bzr-explorer installed.13:43
jikuit asks for sftp password when doing checkout which is normal.13:43
jikuonce i download, if im not wrong, the revision with its history is saved in the client..13:44
jikubut here whenever i open bazaar explorer and open that working tree, it asks for passwords.. when i do a diff, it asks for passwrods..13:44
jikuwhy is it still dependent on the server which actually should be doing everything from the local perspective ?13:44
jikuany ideas ?13:44
jikuor is it that im doing it wrong ?13:45
jikuhi,.. anybody ?13:49
mgzjiku: you don't want a lightweight checkout, you want to make a proper branch14:03
jikumgz, oh.. ok...14:04
jikui was doing that by default..14:04
jikulet me try again.14:04
mgzyou then also may want to put the passwords in your authentications.conf file, see `bzr help authentication`14:04
jikuok..14:05
jikulet me try this..14:05
mgzor, use an agent so you don't type the password each time but use a public key instea14:05
mgzd14:05
mgzmathrick: you don't want to use development-colo, but you can use the builtin colo support in 2.6, it's just a little less polished than the bzr-colo plugin14:06
jikumgz, hmm..14:09
jikulooks like, whenever i do a checkout using explorer, it does  with --lightweight enabled.14:09
mgzyou don't want to do checkout14:09
mgzyou want a branch14:09
mgz(I suspect)14:09
mgzif you have options over workflows, you really don't want to emulate the centralised server thing of svn etc14:10
jikumgz, true.. yes..14:10
jikumgz, was confused with git (never used but just read).. there you checkout and branch.. (if im not wrong)14:11
mgzdepends what you think you can get everyone else to use, but having a full branch locally, and working with trunk+merge is how to get the main benefit of dvcs14:11
jikuyes.. right.. this is what we need actually.. there shouldn't be a centralized locking..14:12
mgzin git, saying 'checkout' means get me all the history, and branch just... prints the branch name or something14:12
mathrickmgz: right, but still, how do I use it? I don't see much explaining how to do it14:12
mgzmathrick: basically, you just create a new standalone branch, do `bzr switch -b trunk` or whatever to name the default branch14:13
mathrickah14:13
mgzthen you can do `bzr switch -b feature` to create a feature branch14:13
mgz`bzr switch trunk` to go back to trunk14:14
mathrickand what about cloning, will it carry over all branches?14:14
mgzthe main missing thing is a nice addressing scheme for colocated branches outside of a few commands14:14
mathrickI see an open bug about it, so I guess not?14:14
mgzright, it doesn't, though there's a workaround of some kind I think14:14
mathrickwhat'd that be?14:15
mgznot sure, but it's reasonably trivial to iterate over local branches and push them all up, there's a plugin that does something like that for shared repos14:16
mathrickthis was what I hoped most for, along with fixing the fact that bzr-colo refers to branches with absolute paths, which breaks alternative approaches of just sharing the same workspace dir amongst many machines14:16
mathrickmgz: well, yes, but it needs thinking on my part and remembering to do it. As much as I think git's model is stupid, the fact that fetch carries over everything is a boon14:17
mathricknot just my part, but everyone I talk to14:17
mathrickwhich is a bigger problem really14:17
mathrickmgz: does 2.6 need anything in the way of the branch format to support colocated branches?14:18
mgznope, that's all done14:18
mathrickso just 2a?14:18
mgzit's just making it all pretty to use that's unfinished14:18
mathrickmhm14:19
mgzI'm using it for one project currently as an experiment14:20
mgzapart from some confusion setting up, and needing to know to type file:,branch=FEATURE in a few circumstances, I've not had any issues14:20
mgzthat said, I've not wanted to push all branches, push has been specifically for updating remote trunk after feature branch merge14:21
Logan_jam: Can you please do < requeue_package.py --full iscsitarget > when you get the chance? Thanks so much!16:41
Logan_(Or any other UDDer, for that matter.)16:41
mgzwarum?16:44
mgzI can do this... well, I could look at the package log as well, but would prefer to not take 15 minutes looking at it first.16:46
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nDuffIs shelve expected to work with bzr-svn? I'm getting "NotImplementedError: <bound method SvnBasisTree.path_content_summary of <SvnBasisTree for '<SvnWorkingTree of /home/cduffy/VC/boundsetter>'>>"22:51
jelmernDuff: no, I don't think it works with bzr-svn22:52

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