| ScottK | So apparently patching KDE4_BUILD_TESTS=OFF works, but tossing it into configure does not. | 00:30 |
|---|---|---|
| Quintasan | ScottK: Sounds like featu...fun | 00:30 |
| Quintasan | ScottK, apachelogger, Riddell,shadeslayer: http://quintasan.blogspot.com/2012/11/post-uds-r-my-thoughts.html <--- thought before I add planet tags? | 00:37 |
| ScottK | Looks good to me. | 00:39 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Did you get TF running on Linux? | 00:51 |
| afiestas | Is there a +Kubuntu repository/ppa that contains #KDE 4.10 Beta 1? Seems the plans are to not ship it in Quantal before RC 1 … | 00:54 |
| afiestas | seen in G+ | 00:54 |
| afiestas | what should I answer? | 00:54 |
| afiestas | https://plus.google.com/100202326091940882253/posts | 00:55 |
| Darkwing | oh yeah, I am now an owner of a nexus 7. would love to work on / test plasma on the N7. | 01:04 |
| Darkwing | quintasan, pingie | 01:06 |
| ScottK | afiestas: It depends on how quickly we can get stuff done. We have all of 4.10 Beta 1 except for kdegames in raring and getting that is the priority at the moment. | 01:09 |
| ScottK | afiestas: Getting kamoso fixed to work with the new kdegraphics libs would help. ;-) | 01:09 |
| ScottK | Uploaded kde4libs with KDE4_BUILD_TESTS set OFF via patch. | 01:19 |
| xnox | ScottK: calligra needs a rebuild against the new okular abi, but it fails to build from source. | 02:18 |
| ScottK | xnox: Once the current kde4libs builds are published it should build. | 02:18 |
| xnox | ScottK: awesome, thanks. | 02:18 |
| ScottK | We also need a new digikam and fixes for kphotoalbum and kamoso. | 02:18 |
| * xnox thought it's instability in the archive, rather an upstream bug. | 02:18 | |
| ScottK | It's kde4libs was released for the beta by upstream with KDE4_BUILD_TESTS set to on and the test files for Calligra don't build. | 02:19 |
| ScottK | We don't actually want it enabled, so I fixed that. | 02:20 |
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| apachelogger | Quintasan_: :O | 04:48 |
| apachelogger | tldr :P | 04:48 |
| apachelogger | oh right | 05:13 |
| apachelogger | digikam was the awful piece of code copy work | 05:13 |
| apachelogger | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayerthumbs | 05:16 |
| apachelogger | bug 497841 | 05:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 497841 in mplayerthumbs (Ubuntu) "[archive removal request] Please remove the old source for mplayerthumbs" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/497841 | 05:16 |
| apachelogger | why was that not reintroduced when kdemm was split? :( | 05:16 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: btw, debcommit -R -r is your friend | 05:19 |
| apachelogger | (digikam branch had no tags since oneiric) | 05:20 |
| apachelogger | testdrive is not working for me \o/ | 05:27 |
| apachelogger | well, install works, booting does not | 05:27 |
| apachelogger | ScottK, yofel_: http://community.kde.org/KDE_SC/Binary_Packages#KDE_4.10_Beta_1_.284.9.80.29 should we mention the raring? | 06:04 |
| ScottK | Yes | 06:04 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: please check again | 06:06 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: On the srus? | 06:07 |
| apachelogger | wiki | 06:07 |
| ScottK | ? | 06:07 |
| apachelogger | http://community.kde.org/KDE_SC/Binary_Packages#KDE_4.10_Beta_1_.284.9.80.29 | 06:07 |
| apachelogger | :P | 06:07 |
| ScottK | I don't see us there. Someone should add it. | 06:08 |
| apachelogger | I just did | 06:08 |
| apachelogger | so now you should check the line and tell me that I did a good job at editing that wiki :P | 06:08 |
| * apachelogger also managed to login in less than 5 minutes \\o/ | 06:08 | |
| ScottK | There it is. Cool. | 06:09 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 06:09 |
| apachelogger | dh_install: showfoto missing files (usr/share/icons/hicolor/apps/*/showfoto.*), aborting | 06:09 |
| apachelogger | huh | 06:09 |
| apachelogger | no goody | 06:09 |
| ScottK | Who was working on Digikam for raring? | 06:10 |
| ScottK | Was it yofel? | 06:10 |
| apachelogger | bug says shadeslayer | 06:10 |
| apachelogger | ah | 06:10 |
| apachelogger | oh | 06:10 |
| apachelogger | eh | 06:10 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: if you can look at the precise-proposed debian dir of digikam ... does the showfoto.install also contain that bogus wildcard? | 06:11 |
| ScottK | +usr/share/icons/hicolor/apps/*/showfoto.* | 06:12 |
| ScottK | launchpadlibrarian.net/121078025/digikam_4%3A2.5.0-1ubuntu2_4%3A2.5.0-1ubuntu2.1.diff.gz | 06:12 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: please recject | 06:13 |
| apachelogger | that should be */apps/ not /apps/* | 06:13 |
| ScottK | Done | 06:13 |
| apachelogger | thanks | 06:13 |
| * apachelogger wonders how he missed that | 06:13 | |
| apachelogger | https://launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/ppa/+files/digikam_2.5.0-1ubuntu2.1%2B2.debian.tar.gz is correct | 06:15 |
| apachelogger | really weird | 06:15 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1083060] packages kde-workspace-bin 4.9.80-0ubuntu5 and kde-window-manager-common 4.9.80-0ubuntu5 c... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1083060 (by zigi) | 06:45 |
| jussi | morning all | 07:34 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1083060] packages kde-workspace-bin 4.9.80-0ubuntu5 and kde-window-manager-common 4.9.80-0ubuntu5 c... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1083060 (by zigi) | 07:46 |
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| shadeslayer | mmm | 08:05 |
| shadeslayer | lawl | 08:06 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: File kgamepropertytest.shell found in Cannot, read, cache, directory, /home/ubottu/ubottu/aptdir/apt-file/raring:, No, such, file, or, directory | 08:06 |
| shadeslayer | from ubottu | 08:06 |
| shadeslayer | !find kgamepropertytest.shell raring | 08:06 |
| ubottu | File kgamepropertytest.shell found in Cannot, read, cache, directory, /home/ubottu/ubottu/aptdir/apt-file/raring:, No, such, file, or, directory | 08:06 |
| jussi | tsimpson: ^^ | 08:07 |
| jussi | all I have to say is... "I didn't do it" | 08:08 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 08:08 |
| Tm_T | jussi: awww | 08:10 |
| shadeslayer | wasn't there a copyright generator somewhere | 08:28 |
| shadeslayer | I don't want to manually write this copyright file | 08:29 |
| shadeslayer | this one I think http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/modax/copyright-helper.git;a=summary | 08:30 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1082394] krunner freezes @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1082394 (by Manuel López-Ibáñez) | 09:54 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1083060] packages kde-workspace-bin 4.9.80-0ubuntu5 and kde-window-manager-common 4.9.80-0ubuntu5 c... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1083060 (by zigi) | 09:54 |
| claydoh | Quintasan_: sorry it looks like our antispam software on the forum has gone beserk :( | 10:25 |
| claydoh | im gonna have it disabled or something | 10:26 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1082394] krunner freezes @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1082394 (by Manuel López-Ibáñez) | 10:56 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:23 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1045839] plasma init script not run @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1045839 (by Jonathan Riddell) | 12:03 |
| Darkwing | morning all | 12:15 |
| Riddell | hi Darkwing | 12:15 |
| Darkwing | installing plasma-active on my N7 right now. | 12:19 |
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| yofel_ | kubotu: newversion skanlite 0.9 http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=109803 | 14:11 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1083166 | 14:11 |
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| Quintasan_ | Hi | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | ohai Quintasan_ | 14:23 |
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| shadeslayer | Quintasan: y u call me shadeslayer-y-u-break-everything in your blog :( | 14:24 |
| Quintasan | because :P | 14:24 |
| Darkwing | lol | 14:24 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: any progress on bsns cards? | 14:24 |
| Darkwing | Quintasan: you have a Nexus 7? | 14:24 |
| Quintasan | Darkwing: I do not. | 14:25 |
| jjesse | i have the 8 gb one | 14:25 |
| Darkwing | I get Ubuntu running with the installer but, active breaks it | 14:25 |
| Quintasan | I'm a poor student, mind you Darkwing :P | 14:25 |
| Darkwing | lol | 14:25 |
| Darkwing | me too, rich father gifted me | 14:26 |
| Quintasan | Darkwing: the seed and task is broken atm | 14:26 |
| Darkwing | unity is close to unusable | 14:26 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Digikam? | 14:27 |
| jjesse | i haven't tried ubuntu on my nexus7 still enjoy Android :) | 14:28 |
| yofel_ | I got active installed on my n7, but I didn't manage to figure out how to make it start it instead of unity | 14:29 |
| yofel_ | instead somehow got plasma-desktop running... more or less | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: will have a look at it after I'm done with libkdegames | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | which is ~done | 14:31 |
| ScottK | OK. The digikam is needed for raring-proposed -> raring migrations. | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | the one apachelogger is broken :P | 14:32 |
| * shadeslayer rages at his connection | 14:32 | |
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| shadeslayer | interesting | 14:39 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: copyright-helper says highscore/kscoredialog.cpp is GPL-2+ | 14:39 |
| ScottK | OK. | 14:40 |
| Darkwing | yofel_: we'll prolly have to modify the installer to DL a custom image with rootfs+plasma | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | Darkwing: ogra has offered to build Active images as well | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | just need to ping him once we want them | 14:42 |
| Darkwing | my ZaTab crashed out... the N7 should be good... | 14:42 |
| yofel_ | I'll wait for that until we get plasma3 packaged. For now I put android back on it | 14:43 |
| Darkwing | I just reflashed Android lol | 14:43 |
| * yofel_ needs to make a pacman style background using a kubuntu logo and an android | 14:44 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: he knows but he's still working on the ubuntu images for now | 14:47 |
| shadeslayer | I see | 14:47 |
| Riddell | where do I find info on -proposed to -release movements again? | 14:48 |
| Darkwing | yofel_: Im working on a two logos... I would love to help | 14:49 |
| Darkwing | do we have a ringtail logo yet? | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | it was plastered all over @ UDS | 14:51 |
| Darkwing | for kubu | 14:51 |
| shadeslayer | uh | 14:51 |
| shadeslayer | nope :P | 14:51 |
| shadeslayer | http://img.ubunlog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/ubuntu-raring-ringtail-logo.png < make the background blue? | 14:51 |
| davmor2 | Darkwing: Yeah it's a blue version of the orange one :P | 14:51 |
| Darkwing | much like the quatzel kubu logo ay the site | 14:51 |
| ScottK | Riddell: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt | 14:51 |
| Darkwing | s/ay/at/ | 14:52 |
| kubotu | Darkwing meant: "much like the quatzel kubu logo at the site" | 14:52 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ah yes thanks | 14:53 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Also, I've kept the pad updated with what needs doing to get things to migrate. | 14:53 |
| ScottK | Calligra just finished it's rebuild, so that's one down. | 14:53 |
| ScottK | Bad shadeslayer. | 15:26 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Digikam 2.8 won't build with the KDE 4.9.80 graphics libs. You need the version from Debian experimental, but fixed to use external libs instead of the internal code copies. | 15:26 |
| shadeslayer | Bad shadeslayer? Why? I didn't upload before test building | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | it was apachelogger | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | I get blamed because my name is in the changelog? :( | 15:27 |
| ScottK | OK. | 15:28 |
| ScottK | Please be fixing in any case. | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, but like I said, I want to get libkdegames done today | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | just need to add licenses at the end now | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | hmm ... tests have no copyright | 15:28 |
| ScottK | OK, but digikam is actually blocking stuff. | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer | I understand, but I suck at multitasking, I'll probably have a look at it tonight before sleeping | 15:31 |
| ScottK | OK. | 15:33 |
| Riddell | ;;;;;; | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | libkdegames packaging in lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdegames | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | please review | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | I'll be back after dinner :) | 15:49 |
| Riddell | meh, the internet in this city is so unreliable | 15:56 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I'll take a keek | 15:56 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: libkdegamesprivate1.install has usr/lib/libkdegamesprivate.so ? | 15:59 |
| Riddell | no -dev package? | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | nope, no dev package | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | ( didn't have one before the split as well ) | 16:03 |
| ScottK | It's private after all. | 16:04 |
| shadeslayer | indeed :) | 16:04 |
| yofel_ | why install the .so then though? | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes, good point, removed | 16:07 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: not so, kdegames 4.9.2 had usr/lib/libkdegamesprivate.so in libkdegames-dev | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | oh ... | 16:07 |
| Riddell | same for libkdegames6 | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | fixing :) | 16:08 |
| Riddell | it's not private any more really, it's used by many other kdegames apps which are now separate | 16:08 |
| shadeslayer | well .. that sounds wrong :P | 16:09 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Where be me bsns cards | 16:10 |
| Quintasan | :P | 16:10 |
| shadeslayer | in /dev/null | 16:10 |
| Quintasan | T_T | 16:11 |
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| Riddell | shadeslayer: dpkg-source: warning: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but there is no XSBC-Original-Maintainer field | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | What do you suggest we do about XSBC-Original-Maintainer ? because there is no original maintainer for the package yet | 16:20 |
| maco | is it a 0ubuntu1? | 16:20 |
| maco | then you ignore it, i think | 16:20 |
| maco | it's a warning not an error | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 16:20 |
| Riddell | fair enough | 16:21 |
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| shadeslayer | btw the old libkdegames-dev depended on libkmahjongglib4 as well, since we don't have that package yet .... I've left it out | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | presumably, we will need a libkmahjongglib-dev | 16:24 |
| Riddell | I think that'll be sensible | 16:25 |
| yofel_ | kmahjongg and khisen need that one | 16:25 |
| ScottK | Does libkmahongglib build-dep on libkdegames? | 16:26 |
| yofel_ | yep | 16:26 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: W: kdegames-card-data-extra: extra-license-file usr/share/kde4/apps/carddecks/svg-nicu-ornamental/COPYING | 16:27 |
| Riddell | and lots of data.tar.xz-member-without-dpkg-pre-depends but I don't think we care about them | 16:27 |
| shadeslayer | damn, I should have done a lintian check :P | 16:27 |
| Riddell | W: libkdegames source: syntax-error-in-dep5-copyright line 92: Cannot parse line "Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without" | 16:27 |
| ScottK | Riddell: We don't care about the pre-depends. | 16:28 |
| ScottK | Circular build-dep doesn't seem good. | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | oh oh, forgot that weird license it seems | 16:29 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: Files: highscore/kscoredialog.cpp in debian/copyright needs a licence listed | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | those have a weird license | 16:29 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: under License: LGPL-2 in debian/copyright your text is actually LGPL2+ | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | 0.o | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | aha | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | blame basefiles | 16:32 |
| * shadeslayer fixes | 16:32 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: Any word from the kdesdk people on the ABI break? | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: fixed | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer | anything else? | 16:35 |
| Quintasan | claydoh: Thanks! | 16:37 |
| Riddell | ScottK: he says he'll fix it | 16:38 |
| ScottK | OK. I guess patience then ... | 16:38 |
| ScottK | Not one of my strengths. | 16:39 |
| Riddell | ScottK: but I've had to discuss ABI issues he thought were not ABI issues, I've said an SO bump would be fine if that's easiest but I think we just need to wait for him to make a decision | 16:39 |
| Quintasan | I get 503's right now :P | 16:40 |
| ScottK | OK. Thanks. | 16:40 |
| ScottK | I saw your update on analitza. Great news. | 16:40 |
| Riddell | ScottK: for analitza apol has said he can get it building without GL so that'll be another one to delay to beta 2 | 16:40 |
| Riddell | apol: need a bug for that? | 16:40 |
| ScottK | It's already in the archive less armhf. | 16:41 |
| Riddell | good point | 16:41 |
| ScottK | I just removed by armhf binaries for analitza, kalgebra, and cantor so the rest would migrate. | 16:41 |
| ScottK | s/by/the/ | 16:41 |
| kubotu | ScottK meant: "I just removed the armhf binaries for analitza, kalgebra, and cantor so the rest would migrate." | 16:41 |
| apol | Riddell: well, I wrote it down in a sheet of paper :P if it's in bugs.kde.org I won't forget for sure... :P | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: fixed all the issues I think | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | atleast lintian doesn't complain when I use with --pedantic | 16:50 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: License: LGPL-2 still says "any later version" | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | grrrr | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: done | 16:53 |
| * shadeslayer dropped "or (at your option) any later version" | 16:53 | |
| shadeslayer | I copied the license from http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.html | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | and even there it has "any later version" | 16:54 |
| Riddell | gnu will always prefer 'or later version', some coders don't and while I banned that from kde older bits still have it | 16:55 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: best to copy things out of the actual source code licence text I recon, developers might change bits compared to what gnu recommends | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | tbh I find debian/copyright to be a bit useless | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer | the entire source is available online with complete copyright headers | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer | why does the packaging have *another* copy of the exact same thing | 16:58 |
| Riddell | it's still needed for distributing with the binaries | 16:58 |
| Riddell | the licence says "provided that the above copyright notice appear in all copies" so that's what we have to do | 16:59 |
| Riddell | compared to what you have to do to copy, say, MS Windows, it's a low barrier | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | I thought a 'copy' would mean a copy of the source | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | in the text format, not the binary format | 16:59 |
| Riddell | any sort of copy | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | I see | 17:00 |
| ScottK | So other than it's illegal distribute the binaries with debian/copyright, I agree it's not very useful. | 17:00 |
| Riddell | same for the source ISOs | 17:01 |
| ScottK | The source ISO still have the source licenses. | 17:01 |
| Riddell | I mean it's also a case of needed to stay legal but not actually useful | 17:02 |
| ScottK | I guess I don't see why it's needed to be legal for source? It's got the original upstream license statement in it? | 17:02 |
| shadeslayer | I just never realized that the term 'copy' also meant binary copies .... I always thought it applied to source copies | 17:03 |
| Riddell | if you distribute the binaries you also have to distribute the source, the only reliable way to do that is to have the source ISOs | 17:03 |
| shadeslayer | Legalese is fun | 17:04 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: binary copies are a derived work and have the same licence | 17:04 |
| agateau | let's replace binaries in /usr/bin with shell scripts which build the binaries on the fly so we can ship sources! | 17:05 |
| shadeslayer | I don't understand how they're 'derived work' btw | 17:05 |
| Riddell | agateau: off to gentoo for you! | 17:05 |
| agateau | Riddell: nah, gentoo builds at install time, it's not agile enough, I want to build at run time! | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | I remember reading about a distribution that used git to provide updates | 17:07 |
| agateau | actually the shell script should run git pull so that it's always up to date | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | and when you want to upgrade, you just checkout a new branch or sth | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | so the entire rootfs is managed by git | 17:07 |
| agateau | there is no way this can go wrong | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 17:08 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: because a binary /usr/lib/libfoo is entirely made up of my source file foo.c run through some algorithms so my copyright applies to libfoo as much as it does to the foo.c I wrote in my editor | 17:08 |
| ScottK | agateau: -> #gentoo. | 17:08 |
| agateau | ScottK: :) | 17:08 |
| agateau | on a more serious note, does this mean a debian/copyright file would not be necessary for a package containing interpreted code? | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | Ahh ... hmm | 17:09 |
| agateau | since in that case we ship the source with the copyright headers | 17:09 |
| Riddell | agateau: if the .deb had only interpreted code with copyright headers there's no paticular legal need, it would still be needed by debian and ubuntu policy to stay consistent | 17:10 |
| agateau | Riddell: makes sense | 17:10 |
| ScottK | If we also shipped the upstream license files, which we don't. | 17:10 |
| ScottK | We could for such packages, but once again, consistency and all. | 17:11 |
| Riddell | mm yes it would need to point to a full copy of the GPL if that's what it used | 17:11 |
| agateau | I see | 17:12 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1083060] packages kde-workspace-bin 4.9.80-0ubuntu5 and kde-window-manager-common 4.9.80-0ubuntu5 c... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1083060 (by zigi) | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | ok, onto digikam | 17:14 |
| ScottK | \o/ | 17:16 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: so we want 3.0 in ubuntu, fixed to use external libs instead of internal copies, right? | 17:17 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Yes. Merge from experimental. | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | ( just to make sure I understand this correctly, because digikam is a PITA ) | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | It's going to be a sleepless night \o/ | 17:17 |
| ScottK | I took a quick look at the packaging diff and it didn't seem too awful. | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | Next akademy, someone do a talk about how NOT to release software | 17:18 |
| * shadeslayer pushes fixing plasma and ktp to end of the week | 17:19 | |
| Riddell | did kwin ever get updated for the fix needed for mesa 9? | 17:20 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Yes. | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | people said it's better with 4.9.3 | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | oh look at that, the last merge of digikam was done by ... me | 17:23 |
| shadeslayer | I suppose I can drop the breaks/replaces since we're post LTS now | 17:26 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: If they aren't from Debian, then yes. | 17:27 |
| shadeslayer | ofcourse | 17:27 |
| ScottK | Riddell: There was some issue that was keeping us from pushing 4.9.3 to -proposed though. | 17:28 |
| ScottK | BTW, I think I'm all set up to do britney hints to push the kdegraphics stack through to raring once digikam is done. | 17:28 |
| yofel_ | The krunner bug is fixed in the packages, not sure if there was anything else | 17:29 |
| ScottK | Ah. That was it. | 17:29 |
| ScottK | yofel_: Someone should upload to -proposed then for me to review/accept. | 17:30 |
| Riddell | ScottK: what do britney hints comprise of? | 17:38 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Here's the condensed version: http://paste.debian.net/212504/ | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | more importantly, does anyone have documents about whats the purpose of briney? I heard alot about this at UDS, but could only understand part of it | 17:40 |
| JontheEchidna | it ensures that nothing becomes uninstallable due to a new version of a binary package before copying the new binary package from -proposed to the main archive | 17:41 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: It's to help keep raring usable. Nothing moves from -proposed to -release until it's fully built/doesn't increase uninstallability of packages. | 17:41 |
| JontheEchidna | e.g. stops archive skew | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | I see | 17:42 |
| ScottK | It also treats all NBS binaries as non-existant, so stuff won't automatically migrate until a library transition is finished. | 17:42 |
| JontheEchidna | ^it seems like it waited for the NBS binaries to actually be removed before it would migrate for the case of Qapt2 | 17:43 |
| ScottK | Rather than wait on kamoso and kphotoalbum, I'm going to force kdegraphics once shadeslayer's done with digikam. | 17:43 |
| Riddell | ScottK: out of impatience or is there a better reason? | 17:43 |
| ScottK | Anyone on the release team can force stuff, so if something seems stuck, ping me or Riddell and we'll see about fixing it. | 17:43 |
| ScottK | The goal is to keep stuff only in -proposed for a short time. | 17:44 |
| ScottK | both those need upstream porting. | 17:44 |
| ScottK | Since the old library binaries still exist (but are NBS in proposed) it won't break them to do the force. | 17:44 |
| ScottK | What we don't want are large, long Debian style Unstable -> Testing migrations. | 17:45 |
| Riddell | ScottK: so that is impatience but phrased as a better reason :) | 17:45 |
| ScottK | I don't think so. | 17:46 |
| ScottK | I think don't leave lots of stuff stuck in proposed is a real reason. | 17:46 |
| Riddell | yes perfectly sensible | 17:47 |
| Riddell | bug 1078772 confirmed | 17:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1078772 in amarok (Ubuntu Quantal) "SRU : Fix typo in amarok Recommmends" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1078772 | 17:49 |
| Riddell | ScottK: just incase you're looking for more archive admin things to do ^^ | 17:49 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Yes. Releasing SRUs is on my TODO. | 17:50 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: Done. | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | merge done, now to test build stuff \o/ | 18:21 |
| genii-around | ScottK: Since I know you're on Quassel... with Raring are you getting plasma crash when Quassel tray icon gets an incoming message? Right now I am, just wondering if it's affecting others. | 18:46 |
| ScottK | I'm on Quantal, so don't know. | 18:47 |
| genii-around | Aaah, OK thanks. I'll ask around in +1 | 18:47 |
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| * shadeslayer scratches head | 19:06 | |
| shadeslayer | ah, nvm | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer | okay so, translations, do we ship mo files or do we just leave them and magic happens? | 19:09 |
| shadeslayer | because I have this : http://paste.kde.org/615032/ | 19:09 |
| JontheEchidna | .mo's get shipped | 19:11 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 19:11 |
| shadeslayer | I'll have to create kipi-plugins-data or sth | 19:11 |
| JontheEchidna | if it's just .mo's, convention is -i18n | 19:12 |
| shadeslayer | I see .. | 19:13 |
| yofel_ | do we have a convention on whether l10n or i18n should be used here? | 19:13 |
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| * shadeslayer was under the assumption that it should be l10n from looking at other packages | 19:14 | |
| shadeslayer | btw : debian/libkgeomap-data.install:usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/libkgeomap.mo | 19:15 |
| shadeslayer | sooo .... | 19:15 |
| yofel | yeah, but you'll find both in the archive | 19:15 |
| shadeslayer | tbh I can't find alot on i18n | 19:16 |
| shadeslayer | mostly everything kde seems to be l10n | 19:16 |
| yofel | http://paste.kde.org/615038/ | 19:16 |
| yofel | it usually is l10n though | 19:16 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | % apt-cache search l10n | wc -l shadeslayer@solembum | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | 306 | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | ~ | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | % apt-cache search i18n | wc -l shadeslayer@solembum | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | 81 | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | though by that convention libkgeomap is broken | 19:17 |
| JontheEchidna | I was basing my assertion off a sample size of 1 (k3b-i18n), so feel free to disregard it :P | 19:17 |
| shadeslayer | haha :D | 19:17 |
| yofel | heh | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: should I go ahead and upload libkdegames ? | 19:18 |
| yofel | it'll get stuck in proposed if I understand britney right, so what's the point? | 19:21 |
| ScottK | yofel: Why? | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer | if libkdegames is up, you could start packaging kdegames ;) | 19:21 |
| yofel | wouldn't it be stuck until everything is rebuilt? | 19:21 |
| yofel | hm | 19:22 |
| yofel | nvm | 19:22 |
| ScottK | Actually it would be. | 19:23 |
| ScottK | But that's fine. | 19:23 |
| ScottK | We can force it in once we're convinced it's ready. | 19:23 |
| * shadeslayer is still waiting for a definitive answer on what to do with libkgeomap and libkipi translations | 19:24 | |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Include them. | 19:24 |
| ScottK | Using whatever naming scheme upstream used. | 19:25 |
| ScottK | We can sort details later if needed. | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | upstream naming scheme? this is digikam we're talking about :P | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | there is no naming scheme for the translations from what I can tell | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | so I'll create libkgeomap-i18n and libkipi-i18n | 19:26 |
| ScottK | Why i18n then? | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | oh derp, I meant l10n | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | not i18n | 19:26 |
| ScottK | Why separate binaries? | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | hmm ... yeah, can be combined, kipi-plugins has a depends on libkgeomap | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | kipi-plugins-l10n? | 19:30 |
| yofel | why not put the translations into libkipi-data? | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | because libkipi-data is provided by libkipi? | 19:32 |
| shadeslayer | hmm ... maybe digikam is being an idiot and installing translations from it's own embedded lib | 19:33 |
| yofel | how would it do it otherwise? | 19:33 |
| yofel | and you were talking about libkipi and libkgeomap. both have -data packages, so why not put the translations there? | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | the list missing output I pasted above was from digikam | 19:36 |
| yofel | libkgeomap is part of digikam | 19:36 |
| yofel | still has it's own lib and data package | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | right, that's fine, the libkgeomap translations are already in the data file | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | but what do we do about libkipi translations | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | when there's a libkipi-data from libkipi which is another source | 19:37 |
| yofel | *click* | 19:37 |
| yofel | now I know what you meant | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | and since we were saying that translations should go into -l10n packages, the kgeomap translations are in the wrong package | 19:38 |
| yofel | is libkipi from digikam even built? sounds like it shouldn't be - and neither the translations installed | 19:38 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: I bet that means that the libkipi translations are in the KDE l10n pakcages | 19:38 |
| ScottK | Right. | 19:39 |
| ScottK | So if that's the case, ignore those translations. | 19:39 |
| shadeslayer | mhmm | 19:39 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: we were talking about l10n-only, if there already is a -data package I don't really see the point in having 2 arch:all packages | 19:40 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 19:40 |
| yofel | unless the translations are really large | 19:40 |
| ScottK | Also since l10n is covered in KDE by the language specific lang packs, we don't want (I don't thik) translations from Digikam's embedded copy of the lib. | 19:41 |
| shadeslayer | mm | 19:47 |
| shadeslayer | -- Could NOT find QtKOAuth (missing: QTKOAUTH_LIBRARIES QTKOAUTH_INCLUDE_DIR) | 19:47 |
| shadeslayer | something for packaging I guess | 19:47 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Please make a note of it in the packaging spec. | 19:48 |
| shadeslayer | where would that be? | 19:48 |
| shadeslayer | oh you mean blueprint | 19:48 |
| ScottK | yes | 19:57 |
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| shadeslayer | well that's odd | 20:07 |
| shadeslayer | -- libimagemagick library found............. NO (optional) | 20:07 |
| shadeslayer | I did install libmagick++-dev | 20:07 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: How about libmagickcore-dev? | 20:09 |
| shadeslayer | libmagick++-dev depends on that, so it should be pulled in automagically | 20:09 |
| ScottK | OK. | 20:09 |
| shadeslayer | MACRO_OPTIONAL_FIND_PACKAGE(ImageMagick COMPONENTS MagickCore display) # For VideoSlideshow. | 20:12 |
| Riddell | need to look in the FindImageMagick.cmake file I'd say | 20:13 |
| shadeslayer | actually, sounds like it has the MagickCore thing | 20:13 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 20:13 |
| shadeslayer | libmagickcore4-extra might have the MagickCore thing | 20:14 |
| shadeslayer | "This package adds support for SVG, WMF, OpenEXR, DjVu and Graphviz to MagickCore." | 20:14 |
| shadeslayer | though I see no -dev package | 20:14 |
| shadeslayer | I'm off to sleep, will complete this tomorrow :) | 20:28 |
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