/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/11/26/#ubuntu-kernel.txt

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myhrlinHi, this might be the wrong place to point this out but http://kernel.ubuntu.com/ seems to be down, would that be covered here?03:33
stgraberit's known03:38
stgraber(from #canonical-sysadmins' topic: Known issues: kernel.ubuntu.com is down)03:39
myhrlinah ok03:42
myhrlinthanks03:42
apwj #canonical-sysadmins08:54
njinhallo guys, we have http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ broken09:10
njinballoons, up and running ?09:17
njincan someone tell me who to ask to repair http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ , thanks09:26
* ppisati -> reboot09:26
bjfnjin, the server is dead. the issue is being worked09:27
njinbjf, thanks to clarify09:27
bjfnjin, np09:27
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ppisatibrb11:09
ogra-cbcking, do you happen to know if your power fixes were forward ported to the raring nexus7 kernel ?12:12
ogra-cbi at most get 2h out of the battery now 12:13
ogra-cband wlan got rather unstable with this kernel12:13
ckingogra-cb, there were no ARM specific kernel fixes, most of the issues are in userspace really12:13
ogra-cbhmm, k 12:14
ckingogra-cb, 2 hours on the nexus 7? what are you doing to it?12:14
ogra-cbwell, userspace really freaks out now, i see assively jumpy times in the battery applet12:14
ogra-cbcking, leaving it idling :P12:15
ckingogra-cb, I really would not trust the battery to give you any sane idea of power consumption, it's not very accurate12:15
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ogra-cbwell, i had over 7h with the old kerne;12:16
ckingogra-cb, run eventstat to check for stupid wakeup events12:16
ogra-cband definitely no jumpy times displayed12:16
ogra-cbit hops from 1h to 17h etc 12:16
ogra-cbup and down all the way12:16
ckingogra-cb, yeah, so I was getting 12 hours on idle, 7 hours on fully loaded CPUs12:16
ogra-cband afyet 2h it shuts down12:16
ogra-cbit also seems to get warmer but that might be a subjective impression12:17
ogra-cbs/afyet/after/12:17
ogra-cband when walking through the house it fails to properly roam wlaan APs and goes into re-connects all the time12:18
ckingogra-cb, perhaps it's wifi that is sucking all the power. turn it off and see what difference that makes12:18
ogra-cb(it reconnects fine though, just didnt do so many reconnects with the former kernel)12:18
ogra-cbah, good idea12:18
ogra-cboh, the power manager battery overview doesnt update properly either btw12:19
ckingogra-cb, well, that is surprising, I will have to install the latest images and see what's borked12:20
ogra-cbthe raring image is a bit tricky to handle but should install fine12:20
ogra-cb(massive UI bugs atm)12:20
ckingsigh12:21
ckingoh, well, ssh is fine for me12:21
ogra-cbwell, ctrl-alt-t works to get a terminal and onboard works12:22
ogra-cbso you can indeed instal openssh-server12:22
ckingogra-cb, that's my modus operandi12:22
ogra-cb:)12:22
ogra-cbxnox, bug 108043712:25
ubot2Launchpad bug 1080437 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "no background during the 13.04 daily install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108043712:25
cking  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S  %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND                                                                                               12:31
cking 2881 king      20   0 1302m  90m  28m S  31.6  1.6   1:12.71 compiz                                                                                                12:31
cking 9228 king      20   0  713m  96m  29m R  19.6  1.7   3:55.91 plugin-containe     12:31
ckingouch, my CPU is on fire just rendering12:31
xnoxogra-cb: bug 107822612:31
ubot2Launchpad bug 1078226 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "raring daily: background & lightdm look as if they are in 8bit greyscale mode" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107822612:31
xnoxogra-cb: this is in KVM, not sure about the other bug reporter.12:32
xnoxwill test nexus7 and try to see what's going on.12:32
ogra-cbnexus7 shows a clearly distroted wallpaper during install12:33
ogra-cbbut i assume the framebugger is just not clean at that point, else it would show black12:33
ogra-cbheh, funny typo ... framebuffer indeed12:34
ogra-cberr, oops, i though i was in -installer with the last bits, sorry for the noise12:42
asachttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ doesnt exist anymore?13:02
asacor just temporary outage?13:02
fmoreauhello, I'm trying to retrieve the source code of the kernel for N7 device, but it's failing:13:09
fmoreau$ LC_ALL=C git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/hwe/ubuntu-nexus7.git13:09
fmoreaukernel.ubuntu.com[0: 91.189.94.216]: errno=Connection refused13:09
fmoreaucould anybody help me please ?13:09
rtgfmoreau, that server is temporarily down13:10
fmoreaurtg: ah... thanks. Is there any alternative ?13:11
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rtgfmoreau, checking, perhaps github but I'm not sure.13:11
Kanohi, whats up with your server?13:13
* ogra-cb grins13:14
ogra-cbKano, you are the third to ask within 20 min13:14
rtgapw, are you cloning the N7 kernel on people.c.c ? I don't have it in the github pile.13:15
rtgKano, server is down.13:15
Kanoogra-cb: well then put it into the topic13:15
* ogra-cb has no such powers13:15
apwrtg checking13:16
apwrtg, nope, whats your tip commit, so i can see if i at least have the original13:19
rtgapw, 7377da8f921463728ee8196186dc5b5a997a9fda UBUNTU: Ubuntu-3.1.10-8.1413:20
apwcommit 7377da8f921463728ee8196186dc5b5a997a9fda13:21
apwnice ... ok so at least i have a valid copy13:21
Kano3.1.10?13:21
rtgapw, looks like I was the last uploader, so that should be right13:22
rtgKano, nexus 7 kernel13:22
apwrtg and it matches the appropriate version13:23
fmoreaurtg: did you find any alternatives on github (sorry if I missed a previous post but I've been disconnected) ?13:59
rtgfmoreau, not for the N7 kernel14:03
KanoN10 later?14:04
rtgKano, dunno14:05
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apwfmoreau, ok i think i have managed to push that nexus7 branch to our archive github repo14:27
apwfmoreau, https://github.com/Canonical-kernel/Ubuntu-kernel/commits/ubuntu-nexus7-master14:27
* henrix -> (late) lunch14:28
fmoreauapw: thanks !14:29
argessforshee, hey. have you had any issues installing 32-bit quantal on macbook airs? i'm looking at bug 1082059 which involves eficross15:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 1082059 in linux (Ubuntu) "default quantal kernel does not boot my macbook air" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108205915:37
sforsheearges, I saw that one. I haven't tried 32-bit in a while, but I'm pretty sure what he's trying to do isn't a supported configuration at this time.15:38
argessforshee, ok how would I find out if it is supported or not? is this unsupported in the firmware?15:39
sforsheearges, what I suspect is unsupported is native EFI boot to a 32-bit kernel. I can't swear to it though. Maybe cjwatson would know?15:41
cking32 bit with EFI is not going to fly is it?15:45
rtgogasawara, smb, sconklin, apw, bjf, herton, henrix: I would wait until we know zinc is officially back before attempting any git pushes.15:47
ogasawarartg: ack15:47
sconklinok15:47
apwrtg, ack15:47
henrixrtg: ack15:47
bjfrtg, ack15:49
hertonrtg, ack15:50
sforsheecking, if you look at the bug there's a patch referenced that's trying to fix problems with that use case, so someone seems to be trying to make it work15:50
rtgogasawara, smb, sconklin, apw, bjf, herton, henrix: #is says zinc is officially back, though I'm concerned about the cause.15:51
argessforshee, yea working on a cherry-pick building now15:54
argesnot too many conflicts15:54
fmoreauapw: trying to clone the repository you pointed out: fatal: https://github.com/Canonical-kernel/Ubuntu-kernel/commits/ubuntu-nexus7-master/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server?15:57
apwfmoreau, i don't think that is a cloneable url, it points to something you get get those from15:59
apwfmoreau, i would also not recommend cloning that as it is massive, make an empty repo, add it as a remote, and fetch just that one branch15:59
fmoreauapw: stupid me :)16:00
fmoreausorry for the noise16:00
fmoreauapw: will use --reference 16:00
apwit will still be humungous i am sure16:00
rtgabout 4.5GB16:00
apwthught it would be indded.  just take the one branch, must smaller16:05
SpamapSsmb`: Nov 24 22:32:43 clint-MacBookAir kernel: [131886.042747] unregister_netdevice: waiting for lo to become free. Usage count = 1516:06
SpamapScking: ^^16:06
SpamapS3.5.0-18.2916:06
SpamapSit almost seems *worse* now with 3.5.0-18.2916:06
ckingbah, that's not good news16:07
apwdid we commit a fix for that issue, i didn't realise16:07
ckingit's SRU's16:07
ckingSRU'd even16:07
apwamazing :)16:07
SpamapSnote, usage count = 1516:07
SpamapSpreviously, it was = 1 or = 216:07
ckingSpamapS, that fix is in master-next but not released yet16:13
apwrtg, when we made linux-lts-quantal it stopped Provides: linux-image ... is there any good reason for this that you recall16:15
rtgapw, no16:15
apwrtg, seems we need it to allow that kernel to be the only kernel one has for the CDs... so i'll fix that then16:16
ckingSpamapS, I believe the ref count badness is due to how fragmented data gets, so it may vary on the unfixed kernel16:16
rtgapw, except that it _doesn't_ provide linux-image16:16
apwrtg its linux-images-*'s are linux-image's as much as any other?  arn't they ?16:17
rtgapw, don't they have lts-quantal in the name ? I can't remember16:17
apwrtg, not the final binaries i don't think no16:17
rtgapw, go ahead and fix it then16:18
apwand whatever they are called, they are 'linux-image' compatible right?  whcih is the point of the provides16:18
apwlinux-image-3.5.0-19-generic | 3.5.0-19.30 | quantal-proposed | amd64, i38616:18
apwlinux-lts-quantal | 3.5.0-18.29~precise1 | precise-updates | source16:18
apwso either way they are linux-image-*16:18
rtgapw, seems right16:19
apwsomething off with rmadison output there16:19
apwlinux-image-3.5.0-18-generic | 3.5.0-18.29~precise1 | precise-updates | amd64, i38616:19
apwlinux-image-3.5.0-19-generic | 3.5.0-19.30~precise1 | precise-proposed | amd64, i38616:19
apwlinux-lts-quantal | 3.5.0-18.29~precise1 | precise-updates | source16:19
apwlinux-lts-quantal | 3.5.0-19.30~precise1 | precise-proposed | source16:19
apwbetter ...16:19
apwok goood ... will do16:19
apwrtg, zinc is still on hold our side rigght ?16:24
apwi am asking pinky to check the remote power works while they are there16:25
apwmodulo everyone still not using it16:25
rtgapw, he told me it is officially online, so I assume he's not gonna try power cycling again16:27
SpamapScking: ok, I'll try quantal-proposed16:27
apwrtg, just talking to him now, they think it is configued right, but they haven't tested the remote proceedure16:27
apwrtg, i think it would be worth doing while they are there in case it is not correct16:27
rtgapw, seems like they ought to figure that out while he is there16:27
fmoreauapw: I finally ended up to download a zip containing the head of the nexus branch, it's only 120Mo.16:27
ckingSpamapS, the fix will land after Ubuntu-3.5.0-19.30, so you need to wait a while for the fix 16:28
apwrtg, ok they are going to test and confirm now16:29
SpamapScking: :(16:30
SpamapScking: thanks for the info16:30
ckingSpamapS, but if you are stuck, continue to use that debug version I built for you until the fix is released16:30
SpamapScking: not stuck, just :( for the users.16:31
rtgapw, ack16:32
ckingSpamapS,  /me nods, well, the process takes a while for a release because we need to test to ensure all the fixes don't cause regressions16:33
SpamapScking: +1000 for that16:34
SpamapSjust :( .. its not a >: at you, or the process. Just a :(16:34
fmoreausigh... unzipping the archive: "symlink error: File name too long"16:56
* ppisati_ -> gym17:04
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rtgapw, ogasawara: pushed 3.7-rc7 rebase. still doing build and boot tests17:20
ogasawarartg: ack17:20
myhrlinhello, would the kernel packages at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.7-rc1-quantal/ be decent to use for a production server?17:28
apwmyhrlin, test kernels for production, and from an -rc1 at that, no17:28
rtgmyhrlin, emphatically no17:28
myhrlinoh, sad day17:28
myhrlinok17:28
myhrlinwait, so ubuntu-modified kernel 3.6.7 isn't... oh wait I linked the wrong one17:29
myhrlinhttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.6.7-raring/17:29
apwall of the kernels in the mainline archive are there for testing and are unsupported17:29
myhrlinI was assuming since kernel.org has 3.6.7 as stable that the ubuntu-modified one would also be stable17:29
Kanowhat option would disable the .tar.gz build?17:29
jwimyhrlin: "ubuntu-modified"?17:33
myhrlinwell, isn't it modified when `make menuconfig` has an option for ubuntu specific options?17:34
myhrlinI thought that was the case, but I'm basing that off a config from... a few version ago, I don't remember the specific version I used at that time17:35
myhrlinoh, my fault.  Just now checked it for 3.2.31, it's just a menu for " Ubuntu Supplied Third-Party Device Drivers"17:38
myhrlinI honestly thought ubuntu had a heaviliy modified kernel17:39
jwimyhrlin: the /mainline kernels are built from {linus',stable} trees - vanilla, no ubuntu toppings.17:42
argessmb`, hello18:52
argesjust a general xen question... if I boot with a xen dom0 ubuntu kernel, would I expect certain CPU features to be disabled?18:53
rtgogasawara, apw, bjf: test kernels at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~rtg/3.7-rc7.118:57
bjfrtg, ack18:57
ogasawarartg: ack, I'll throw it on my kit here18:57
apwrtg ack18:58
* rtg -> lunch19:03
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* henrix -> EOD19:18
infinityhggdh: I hear you should be unstuck for armadaxp regression testing?19:40
infinityarges: That depends on the release, probably.19:40
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argesinfinity, yea trying to verify 979003 and I notice that booting with xen raring kernel avx isn't present (so can't reproduce the bug)19:46
argesxen raring dom0 that is19:47
infinityOn hardware with AVX?19:49
infinityThat's a mistake, if so...19:49
infinitysmb`: You around?19:49
argesinfinity, i think he has the day off19:49
infinityCheck.  We should bug him later.19:49
argesinfinity, i'll ping him tomorrow19:49
infinityIt may be that he hard disabled AVX to work around the glibc issues, but we should be backing that out (from all releases) if we're fixing glibc.19:49
argesagreed19:50
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rudimeyerI'm experiencing a problem with the handling of virtual block devices (Xen) in kernels version 3.0 (Ubuntu 11.10) and 3.2 (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS) - but in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS with kernel 2.6.32 the error is not present…   How do I go by reporting this the best?20:08
rudimeyerKernel 3.0 and 3.2 does not handle the detachment of a virtual block device that well (hang/freeze)20:09
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jtb1hi! is there a way to get the linux-tools for the kernels from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ?20:43
myhrlinkernel 3.6.8 is out :D20:43
myhrlinjtb1: linux-tools?20:43
jtb1myhrlin: perf, turbostat, x86_energy_perf_policy etc20:44
myhrlinah ok20:44
myhrlinI'll leave that for someone else, I have no idea20:44
jtb1k, thx anyway ;)20:45
* rtg -> EOD21:56
argesjsalisbury, hey.22:43
argesjsalisbury, if a linux bugtask is fixed in raring by a patch in upstream, should I mark the raring bugtask as 'Fix Released' or something else?22:44
bjfarges, is that fix in our currently "released" kernel ?22:48
bjfarges, or another way to ask ... which rc is it fixed in?22:49
argesbjf, yes assuming it is. that patch is in a released kernel23:12
argesbjf, but we didn't actively apply the fix, it was just already in upstream23:12
bjfarges, then yes, you can mark it "fix released"23:12
bjfarges, that status isn't meant just for bugs we fix23:13
bjfarges, it indicates, "this bug has been fixed and is available via a released kernel"23:13
argesbjf, that's what I figured, just wanted to make sure23:13
bjfack23:13
argesthanks23:13
bjfnp23:14
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